you can tilt your shoulder in 70 degree
you can play marker if you want very good recovery
you have 2 moves that make you float
#Garnet
crisp bronze
like hell
if you cant recover
its skill issue
xd
fluid trail
jack, despite having an even matchup, showcases all of the problems with her recovery
crisp bronze
jack side b is one of the easiest moves to dodge
crisp bronze
he is good at edge guarding
and you can still outmanuver him
play marker
if you can't
fluid trail
jack is not a hard character to play marker against but again if you try using it offstage its very easy to react to and punish while shes still flying
crisp bronze
if he throw you offstage and he doesn't use insta side B you can use marker 99% of the times
if he try to use something else
he will get hit by gauntlet
garnet doesn't have morty tier recovery
but she is above average in that regard
signal dirge
You can even angle down gauntlets to stage spike edge mfs like Marvin who sit on it
You can even shoulder bash in then immediately star to stop all momentum. Then dodge up
crisp bronze
You can even shoulder bash in then immediately star to stop all momentum. Then d...
risky
bcs elbow have some start up
signal dirge
I mean yeah. But you have the option to control your momentum in air freely
signal dirge
I don't trust sair anymore but sure. I like rocket gauntlets for edgeguard more ngl
If you imput it early it's a projectile
For me sair 1 up air is more consistent then sair 1 2
Especially on that wall
I think garnets above average at playing wall but I also played ledge alot with dedede so maybe I'm just better at it than my mmr
lavish berry
Down air on ledge is excellent. hitting people camping ledge with the explosion from down air and KILLING with it, top tier
signal dirge
Dollar store wonder woman edgeguard
Tho at low percents it possibly combos
Or people don't see it coming
You can also slide off while dairing for a fall speed that let's you sair low
It puts you like out a bit
Tho it still doesn't win against Harley or bugs bat
fluid trail
Or people don't see it coming
thats usually what it is, i usually only land it as a hard read or if people dont know it exists
fluid trail
Tho it still doesn't win against Harley or bugs bat
if youre goated at the timing you can trade harley bat and dair
signal dirge
Dair blast on ledge into sair ain't true 😦
fluid trail
dair blast isnt a combo move sadly
signal dirge
Honestly Harley dair never gave me issues since it's so telegraphed. On stage it does tho
fluid trail
a lot of harley players have a tendency to just camp and spam angled dair
signal dirge
Marvin will still hit me 7 times w his tho. I'll move away from wall and he'll follow me
fluid trail
marvin dair is ridiculous
huge disjoint, very little startup
very few whiff frames so its spammable
signal dirge
Marvin just kicks my butt every time
fluid trail
projectile characters are a struggle for garnet
signal dirge
I get wins off him but it always feels like AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
oh I won cool
fluid trail
if they buff projectile shield startup garnet will go from being bottom 3 to maybe potentially viable
signal dirge
I mean I do think garnets a bit underrated
fluid trail
am i wrong for saying garnet is probably one of the more technical characters in the game
signal dirge
I think her true weakness is she used to be balanced around a ridiculous punish game. But now she has to earn the punish all throughout the string by constantly making right calls
I mean. Look what most high tiers get from a jab
Nair sair jab d.jab dash attack is fun to start but after that you just gotta earn it all
fluid trail
I think her true weakness is she used to be balanced around a ridiculous punish ...
garnet gets a lot of confirms and options from nair and sair 1 but you have to read the DI to get any of them
signal dirge
Exactly. You hafta be consistently making good decisions
Nothings for free on garnet
A garnet win is always earned
fluid trail
you have to get a hard read to start the combos and a DI read to get any good combo finishers
lavish berry
I think Garnet is only more technical because you have to have moves on cooldown to utilize her combos, kill moves, and movement/escape options well
Once you learn how early she can kill, and what kills, you're off to a good start
signal dirge
I think garnet feels more technical because she's designed well
She uses her whole kit
Sure she could be a little faster
lavish berry
I legit use all her moves almost every game
fluid trail
buff down tilt tho
signal dirge
And I want a dspecial cool down attack to complete the set
crisp bronze
ye
lower end lag
or a bit higher hitbox
so it can catch fcking dash attack from any character
lavish berry
I think she suffers the same downside as jason, where her size, and the janky hitboxes, make her SO easy to hit and combo
crisp bronze
that floats
signal dirge
Just make it so if you charge it more than half way it gets a bit taller
fluid trail
games so floaty basically no one is grounded long enough for dtilt to be useful and it has loads of endlag so its a free punish
signal dirge
To hit floating dash attacks and things lile shaggy kick
lavish berry
I hate that some characters low profile our jab (Harley and batman im looking at u)
crisp bronze
i still think that garnet have very good kit
one of the most versitile in the game
but she have probably the worst frame data outside of jason
fluid trail
dtilt needs either a buff to whiff frames or a hitbox around garnet, and slightly larger hitboxes on the "projectiles" it sends out
lavish berry
they do their little ground slide moves and it always beats out jab beacuse they slide under it
crisp bronze
give her a bit better numbers and she menace
lavish berry
I use it mostly against finns
crisp bronze
and terrible in others
signal dirge
I use it for jack these days too
fluid trail
the two MUs i can see it being useful in are finn and maybe arya but not much else
lavish berry
I love forcing a finn off the ground to approach me because im charging my dtilt against his stupid sword moves
crisp bronze
nah
signal dirge
Also why does jack actually teleport
lavish berry
Absolutely never use it against arya
crisp bronze
over it anyway
lavish berry
one little dodge and you're combo'd
fluid trail
can force the roll if youre at the right distance
idk
i havent bothered using it against arya
lavish berry
she has too many options
crisp bronze
ye
and you still cant cast anything else
signal dirge
Why does all garnets move pop jack up and into safety when clashing with jack side special
fluid trail
also
crisp bronze
bcs it have horendous end lag
lavish berry
I've used it maybe a few times against arya's to switch it up
fluid trail
am i the only one that thinks garnet has a favorable/even matchup with finn if you use the marker perk?
crisp bronze
for me its even match up
lavish berry
i exclusively use the marker perk
crisp bronze
but im using 5% ever match
lavish berry
idc if its not meta
novel copper
I got plenty of experience sparring with a Finn main the other day, so he's a 50/50 for me now
signal dirge
I still use electric groove and troll tactics
crisp bronze
i think its preference based
novel copper
still don't see much use for the marker perk
crisp bronze
if you using marker or 5%
fluid trail
marker just gives garnet free stage control against finn
crisp bronze
i just like to have total controll over star
novel copper
Same
signal dirge
^
novel copper
especially when I have to deal with ledge campers like Harley or Bugs
lavish berry
I always forget to place marker, AND i love being able to stealth place marker behind people with gauntlets to take the stage space without needing to go there
signal dirge
I like placing it during recovery
novel copper
then I can just yeet punish
fluid trail
i get more use out of star if i use marker but there is a window where gauntlets can be on cooldown while star isnt
crisp bronze
i just don't like to have star set up in the corner of the map after gauntlet miss
crisp bronze
i get more use out of star if i use marker but there is a window where gauntlets...
yes
but you have to look at it all the time
while cd menagment on garnet is already hard
fluid trail
garnet has 3 very visible cooldown indicators its not that bad
crisp bronze
yes
but you need to track them all the time
bcs you have 2 cooldown moves
lavish berry
i just don't like to have star set up in the corner of the map after gauntlet mi...
i just improvise i guess lmao
crisp bronze
that do completly diffrent things than non cooldowns
lavish berry
my biggest flaw is forgetting my spark is up and i try to do her jab confirm into up special clap
and just end up whiffing and getting combo'd for it
crisp bronze
idk how much games i throwed bcs my up special just went off cooldown
and i used ball
instead of clap
fluid trail
most players will dodge in after close range ball hit
lavish berry
I wish jab into up hit killed earlier, so i wouldn't have to worry about it
crisp bronze
most players will dodge in after close range ball hit
yes
and some will dodge out
and will punish
signal dirge
Garnet punch as a read roll behind and spot dodge is somewhat viable
fluid trail
if they dodge out you have the space to whiff a jab without getting punished
signal dirge
If you hit them right on you with up special. Neutral punch covers everything on characters w short rolls.
crisp bronze
if they dodge out you have the space to whiff a jab without getting punished
you don't
dodge cancel joker jab
will catch you anyway
fluid trail
i mean
crisp bronze
and clap have 2 hours whiff time
crisp bronze
he is top 3-5 for me
fluid trail
hit close range ball, run backward a lil bit, throw out jab and see if it hits
crisp bronze
arya being 1
and morty being 2
fluid trail
if it doesnt hit dont use clap
lavish berry
Arya and morty are the bane of my existence
fluid trail
y'all havent fought a camping gizmo
lavish berry
Havent faced too many marvins, but I hate him too
fluid trail
morty is nowhere near as bad as camping gizmo
crisp bronze
instead of finn
lavish berry
since gizmo nerf, he's a little less bad to deal with because he's VERY light
crisp bronze
morty is nowhere near as bad as camping gizmo
nah
this take is not real
lavish berry
the car is still a problem tho
crisp bronze
my problem with gizmo is his ladder combo
fluid trail
nah
this take is not real
what options does garnet have to counter a gizmo that does nothing but camp behind popcorn with music notes
crisp bronze
gauntlet
nspecial
buffing yourself with music to better approche
and just run over him
so he cant cap
camp
fluid trail
gauntlet destroys popcorn and sends the notes flying so you cant approach and he can just set it up again
lavish berry
yeah i dance and they always approach, but dance has such long end lag i find it hard to use
crisp bronze
gauntlet destroys popcorn and sends the notes flying so you cant approach and he...
if you let him spawn popcorn AND over 2 notes
its your fault
lavish berry
place spark right where they're camping after destroying popcorn with gauntlets
fluid trail
place spark right where they're camping after destroying popcorn with gauntlets
music notes deal kb
lavish berry
bait with dtilt but dont charge it
crisp bronze
for me full adhd gameplay works best vs gizmo
bcs he have much tighter window to camp
fluid trail
you did not fight the same gizmo i did
neat igloo
the car is still a problem tho
just nair him as soon as he gets in it explodes and he gets ground bounce
fluid trail
if i had a clip i'd show you
fluid trail
ive also had gizmo matches where i used gauntlets to blow up the car but still died to the explosion while he rode a car that just wasnt there
crisp bronze
gizmo is cancer
thats true
but if you don't let him set up and camp 24/7
he is menagable
and i will not change my opinion
crisp bronze
ive also had gizmo matches where i used gauntlets to blow up the car but still d...
????????
lavish berry
car kills so early its actually insane
crisp bronze
tf
fluid trail
yep
i blew up his car and he still jumped in and killed me with it
it was last stock too
crisp bronze
spaghettiversus
fluid trail
it was last stock and i was coming back from a 30-110 deficit, i was going in for a confirm and he just hit me with the invis car
signal dirge
Moves like gizmo umbrella and steven fair shouldn't exist
Sure it has startup bit then it's like a burst movement with protection
fleet birch
signal dirge
I'm gonna catch up. I'm in plat rn but i can definitely get past it
Garnets must get to masters
frozen iris
https://discord.com/channels/879970800734711808/1009538859417215147/126753489406...
The Future Vision on the Arya clip took me out. Garnet hit that Ultra Instinct on her.
frozen iris
Btw rocket gauntlets can't hit ever again if dodged
That's how all projectiles work. one dodge with no attack input will cover them. try it with bugs rocket and you can stand through half of it.
frozen iris
Do you ever get hit again?
Not unless you attempt to attack or someone hits you. It won't remove the projectile.
signal dirge
That's so dumb. Let you dodge it for 90 frames and then reapply it
tiny comet
i reached diamond with her today 🥹 i’m so proud i made my goal
You did it lets goooooo!!
rigid storm
I was super surprised seeing that i’m only #27 i think, which means every other garnet is diamond and up 😯 y’all are coooking
tiny comet
I feel inspired
rigid storm
i had to fight 4 aryas before promotion 😭 the gauntlet bro
rigid storm
I feel inspired
you’re not there already??
tiny comet
Damn gate keeping aryas
rigid storm
Damn gate keeping aryas
won 1/4 💔
tiny comet
Nah i’ve been playing other games in between
rigid storm
Dude if i can do it you deff cannnn T up
tiny comet
Im in plat 2 so im not that far from diamond
rigid storm
you should definitely rank up before they make you do full sets of 3 as intended!
rigid storm
it’s just more time consuming i i mean
rigid storm
hopefully
tiny comet
rigid storm
7 for all that is pitiful
i don’t really have a need for 2s i guess i’ll jump in for fun
ik you’re awesome at that
tiny comet
neat igloo
soon to be rank 1 garnet in 2s
lavish berry
maybe i should run ranked 2s with garnet. might be a little refreshing after grinding 1's so much
anytime i feel like ive gotten better at fighting Jacks, i fight another that just.. .perfectly avoids my attacks and string combos me to death and edgegaurds me like no other
buoyant shuttle
finally managed to crawl to platinum on garnet, i dunno how much higher ill get but at least theres that
buoyant shuttle
and then promptly had a game where i lagged so hard i ran off the stage 3 times
okay thats enough for now
tiny comet
Yeah when it freeze hands-off controller
Had an agent smith who just camp in a corner
Bro was sad
buoyant shuttle
like, it froze 6 seconds in and when it unfroze i had run offstage 3 times
i think thats a sign
tiny comet
I enjoy getting cooked by the corner of the ledge that refuses to let me jump up
Know when to hold em know when to fold them
😏
13-2 vs jack
He crashed out on his 3rd stock
neat igloo
maybe i should run ranked 2s with garnet. might be a little refreshing after gri...
its alot more refreshing then 1s for the most part
lavish berry
crazy losing to a gold 1 steve just because the match up is so insanely trash. what a carried character. his forward air is so disjointed i
tiny comet
💯
neat igloo
just use shoulder or tpose them the second they leave the ground tpose is underated move against steven
lavish berry
idk man a good steven just knows how to box you out
neat igloo
even a good steven can be broken you might still lose but its things garnet has like charged armor moves that hit steven when he side airs alot
tiny comet
Being completely honest
If garnet had her uppercut as her up attack
Steven would not get away with alot of the things he do
neat igloo
not even that
neat igloo
skittles what is your ign
tiny comet
DBlockInc
neat igloo
everybody has there own pace
tiny comet
Praying my neutral attack never gets nerfed
Something special blasting people away into oblivion
lavish berry
just as a P.S.A., you can dash attack over T&J's mousetrap
didnt know this until just now
tiny comet
You can jab tackle jab tackle, up special jab then improvise after that
At certain hps
signal dirge
Against what? How are you tackling 2x
tiny comet
Certain characters can get looped still at earlier hps
Banana guard, rick, ig, jason, and some others
Or you can jab tackle and up special into jab again
Works on almost everyone
lavish berry
I'm fighting almost all plat and gold players, and I'm getting almost no RP for winning. I've won over 70% of my games today and I've BARELY moved up in Diamond 5
lavish berry
i just got 6, and anytime i win against a gold player i get less
tiny comet
F
tiny comet
Shoulder bash
signal dirge
Aaah
signal dirge
Does that kill before just neutral punch outa it?
signal dirge
Is jab upspecial actually true
tiny comet
100% of the time for jab iad air upspecial
Regardless of size or hp
Useless but could be handy
signal dirge
It's good for jabbing at ledge
tiny comet
signal dirge
If hits it'll move more forward and kill early but you'll hafta react
tiny comet
signal dirge
Probably fatal af on dexter
tiny comet
Fr fr
There some other things you can do with iad
But its useless or situational so i gate keep
signal dirge
Nair sair 1 jab u.S jab down dash attack rocket gauntlets is my favorite starter
tiny comet
I have to abandon up special after jab most of my ranked games
Cause everyone i go against is too small in 1s
Hurts my muscle memory 
Just had an idea 😏
fluid trail
this character is just so satisfying to play
signal dirge
Ikr
When you get a Jason you can just Nair sair jab us jab bash sair 1 bash sair 1 up special and kill
It's the best feelomg
tiny comet
lavish berry
Nice, congrats
lavish berry
People are falling out of my up special so often it's getting annoying
tiny comet
Tbh
I only use air up special on reads or on combos
If theyre directly above me its up air attack
Unless theyre ig or jason
Somebody tell pfg that i cant dodge cancel out of any of my moves but batman and iron giant can dodge out of 2 to 3 moves in their kit
Just watched taz eat a harleys jack in the box and samurai jack grab and throw it
😂
frozen iris
Just had an acceptance moment. I'm a gold player. I can see my mmr enough to know. I just have to accept that, and let the fall happen, even if it means losing diamond. But I want to get better, so I'll just focus on that.
Random thing. Joker's dodge is his greatest weakness. They like to use it too much, so they do into burnout fast. I kept forcing one to dodge and just killed him for it.
crisp bronze
Just had an acceptance moment. I'm a gold player. I can see my mmr enough to kno...
Didn't you said you will change character?
frozen iris
Didn't you said you will change character?
Nobody else I want to play. I like Garnet, even if she isn't what I though she'd be. I love beta Supes, but that's gone. Never connected with Harley (why I started). And everyone is on Jack, so I'm staying here. Unless we Static Shock. I'm gone day 1.
And I'm not going to pretend I didn't play Supes for the cheese. I loved all the degen stuff. Except down throw camp at ledge. That was lame.
novel copper
I am on a FFA winning streak
😭
aaaand it was swiftly ended by Jack spammers
great
😔
frozen iris
Tryed to play some 2s today. Got three Jack in one fight, and they just staggered side specials. Was done after that.
frozen iris
its skill issue
Thank you for that. I had no idea. I won, doesn't mean it was fun.
frozen iris
You know what Fross, you win. You're great at the game, I'm bad at the game. Have fun. You got it.
crisp bronze
You know what Fross, you win. You're great at the game, I'm bad at the game. Hav...
thx ^^
and its just a banter
don't be ma d
loud light
Bought Garnet out of respect for yall
tiny comet
crisp bronze
king regained his throne
im nr. 1 again
loud light
Cool
crisp bronze
master 3
enouughh
neat igloo
i seen rank 1 garnet change atleast 4 times last night in real time was a sight for sure
crisp bronze
i seen rank 1 garnet change atleast 4 times last night in real time was a sight...
xD
crisp bronze
Fross cant be up 24/7
ye
im playing around 2 hours a day
sometimes more
crisp bronze
Thats alot of sweat
yep
someone must carry garnets
i reached Master 2 like few minutes ago
loud light
ye
im playing around 2 hours a day
sometimes more
That is legit not that long I be seeing people on the game for like 6+
Dw dawg you pretty normal compared to most gamers
fluid trail
ye
im playing around 2 hours a day
sometimes more
2 hours is realistically all u need, after work or school player counts peak and matches are way easier to win back to back
crisp bronze
Yep
I need like 2 games to warm up
But tbh im rn in my skill peak
I feel like i never played that good as last 2 fays
loud light
I’m convinced Samurai Jack at most is top 5 rn, nothing more
fluid trail
hes not even that good
loud light
Especially when every other match is another Samurai Jack
Yall literally fight him every 10 minutes the counterplay is getting found pretty fast
loud light
When I lose to one I’m not going “Ugh, I hate Jack” like I do with like Tom and Jerry or Black Adam, I’m thinking “damn I didn’t space that right”
I’m never legitimately mad at the character itself
But at myself for not playing better
fluid trail
Arya,morty,joker,finn
And 5th is ig/gizmo
ive said this multiple times already but imo finn is a way more even match with garnet than most would think, especially with the marker perk to give garnet stage control back
crisp bronze
Tbh jack lack kill power and he is punishable when he whiffs
So that's makes him out of top 5 from the start
loud light
ive said this multiple times already but imo finn is a way more even match with ...
No that’s actually legit
Kamen showed me that extremely well
I literally changed my entire approach and neutral game
crisp bronze
ive said this multiple times already but imo finn is a way more even match with ...
We have decent match up against him
That's why he doesn't feel like top 5
Vs other characters he is nightmare
loud light
Because holding tilts doesn’t work against a pair of flying gauntlets lol
That’s kinda why I hate T&J
It’s not like he’s a bad matchup
I just hate having to fight the character in general
Jerry shot, down air, ping pong 50/50
fluid trail
Because holding tilts doesn’t work against a pair of flying gauntlets lol
its also hard for finns to deal with the marker at center stage, it cuts off half his space
crisp bronze
Tbh
T&J match up is hard as long as you dont know you can oneshot Jerry with elbow
loud light
its also hard for finns to deal with the marker at center stage, it cuts off hal...
Yeah
fluid trail
Tbh
T&J match up is hard as long as you dont know you can oneshot Jerry with el...
up tilt + jerry slingshot loops
loud light
Tbh
T&J match up is hard as long as you dont know you can oneshot Jerry with el...
The little rat manages to dodge my high fives so much
So I just side special him twice
Or jab then side special
loud light
High five and shoulder ram are so strong against T&J
loud light
Jerry shot, down air, ping pong 50/50
^
Yeah ping pong isn’t true
It’s just a 50/50
crisp bronze
Shoulder ram is strong vs everything
I will stay with my life that its her best move
crisp bronze
Oh
loud light
His side special is also a shoulder ram grounded
crisp bronze
True
fluid trail
Shoulder ram is strong vs everything
its garnets one good burst option and its a combo tool, its absolutely her best move, nair being a close second
loud light
But unlike Garnet his gets rid of projectiles
Which is stupid strong imo but I’m not complaining
crisp bronze
its garnets one good burst option and its a combo tool, its absolutely her best ...
Up air > nair
crisp bronze
You know you can ladder combo with nair dash jump nair
Right?
loud light
Would it be op if Garnet shoulder ram also got rid of projectiles?
crisp bronze
Would it be op if Garnet shoulder ram also got rid of projectiles?
It would be gizmo umbrela then
But even better
crisp bronze
Yep
loud light
Oh ok
crisp bronze
Ground version is one of her worst moves
crisp bronze
Its not about priority
Its about speed
About that you can cover around 70 degree with tilts
loud light
Oh
crisp bronze
Send gauntlet
He will elbow
And you predict it with dash attack
loud light
The way his hitstun animation seems like he goes into the air always makes the opponent have priority in when they can attack
crisp bronze
It always works
fluid trail
You know you can ladder combo with nair dash jump nair
Right?
could you show me a video of this? i havent seen it in use by any garnet ive played against ever
loud light
Send gauntlet
He will elbow
And you predict it with dash attack
Finn?
crisp bronze
could you show me a video of this? i havent seen it in use by any garnet ive pla...
I dont have it sadly
Bcs i dont record
The thing with it is i labed it
And its true in some cases
And in some its not
fluid trail
Send gauntlet
He will elbow
And you predict it with dash attack
you can also punish with nair if you dont have the distance for dash attack startup
crisp bronze
I prefer dlight then tbh
loud light
Send gauntlet
He will elbow
And you predict it with dash attack
Finn players gotta be put on the high five sauce man
crisp bronze
Bcs nair is risky
loud light
It’s so useful against projectiles idk why they don’t use it more
fluid trail
its basically guaranteed if he throws out shoulder
crisp bronze
Still
Finn is very strong
But its decent match up for garnet
loud light
Having a free return to sender on projectiles is op on an assassin
Where projectiles should be his weakness
loud light
Sadly Finn mains are too focused on holding tilts all game
Wish I could put them on the high five technique
crisp bronze
Its same with Steven and taz they have so much strong tools but they using like 2
loud light
Especially against Batman grapple hook
loud light
Its same with Steven and taz they have so much strong tools but they using like ...
Neutral air and aerial down special
Most fun Steven neutral ever
crisp bronze
Hamster gameplay
loud light
Hamster gameplay
That title goes to T&J
crisp bronze
Arya is by far the worst
Almost unplayable
loud light
Arya is by far the worst
Almost unplayable
Funnily enough haven’t run into many
loud light
Harley is infuriating
crisp bronze
Of bad match ups
loud light
Don’t care how nerfed she gets
Hate fighting her
Ms.No Whiff Endlag over here with neutral air side air and down tilt
crisp bronze
Nah
She actualy have some whiff
loud light
Haven’t seen a Harley side special since beta 😭
crisp bronze
Compared to arya you have all time of this world to punish her
loud light
Fair
I just don’t like Harley
Unlike everyone else she’s my most hated character since beta
crisp bronze
Ye
130 DMG combos still are in my nightmares
fluid trail
god bugs is torture
loud light
To be fair Joker is just Harley with a better jab
loud light
god bugs is torture
Ok I heavily agree here
Why is bugs so low on tier lists nowadays
crisp bronze
god bugs is torture
Survive tunel
And you allright
crisp bronze
Why is bugs so low on tier lists nowadays
Bcs he have like 2/3 good moves
fluid trail
mind numbingly boring
loud light
Mf literally switches directions twice on the ground in one neutral air
crisp bronze
mind numbingly boring
It have long cooldown tho
fluid trail
too bad his neutral game is really good too!
loud light
And every time I express dislike for characters all I get is “you play Finn”
loud light
At least I’m not a Shaggy main
loud light
Batman mains going for the 23rd dash attack watching me walk the other way
I swear they love that move religiously
And half the time I can just go the other way (cause Finn fast)
crisp bronze
Tbh Batman feels like an noob stomper
And high ceeling character at the same time
loud light
Idk about you guys tho
crisp bronze
You will win vs him 8 times in a row
loud light
Tbh Batman feels like an noob stomper
And high ceeling character at the same ti...
Yeah
Overwhelms noobs with fast hard attacks
loud light
I fought a fresh install Batman and he just tried to overwhelm me with nonsense
And just whiffed 80% of his attacks 😭
Unsurprisingly 2 stocked him
Finn is pretty strong against Batman from what I’ve fought
Considering high five is a no you to any small projectile
crisp bronze
Well
Not every character have build in projectile block mr. Finn main
So you probably dont have that much problems
crisp bronze
With movement?
Nope
But its weaker bcs movement is slower
loud light
Oh
fluid trail
Tbh Batman feels like an noob stomper
And high ceeling character at the same ti...
he forces you to camp and once he gets in he has an insane advantage state
loud light
Well
Not every character have build in projectile block mr. Finn main
So you pro...
Yeah Finn is insane
He has so many strong tools
crisp bronze
Tbh i just bait batarang, destroy it and run over him
loud light
High five is one, non to mention like 6 whole seconds of just “no projectile haha” for 600 coins
Which is NOT a steep price in the slightest
When you can get it from one basic Finn combo
crisp bronze
I feel like its another slight disadvantage match up for garnet
I feel like garnet doesnt have unwinable match ups outside arya
A lot of slight disadvantage
loud light
Just -1s then?
crisp bronze
Most of them
loud light
Well that’s nice
crisp bronze
Arya is like -3
Gizmo and Harley in -2
And some characters in -1
She is not Jason or banana
Where you have half of the cast in the -3 or -4
loud light
Because people can’t jump apparently
To be fair we were all still adjusting to current MVS
We had no clue how to deal with it for the most part
But holy the spear charge goes nowhere now
loud light
Like dawg he still has to be usable
crisp bronze
And he like c/b tier
crisp bronze
Shaggy is b tier too tho
crisp bronze
Ye
Kill power is only thing he have
Outside jab
fluid trail
i just two stocked a masters arya lol
loud light
Side special is just meh now
fluid trail
definition of carried
loud light
i just two stocked a masters arya lol
Ooh nice
crisp bronze
They are carried af
loud light
Why did someone just suggest a 5 second cooldown on Jack side special 😭
Mf it’s not even that strong
This is propaganda
fluid trail
he was so insanely predictable that i deliberately dropped like 3 strings after reading him and he still didnt get the message
loud light
he was so insanely predictable that i deliberately dropped like 3 strings after ...
lol
crisp bronze
Side b is strong
But it have long end lag
And long start up
- Its marked
loud light
Yeah
fluid trail
His side air is surprisingly strong
jack?
loud light
Yeah lol
crisp bronze
Its worst arya side air
loud light
They just took a bunch of smash moves and made them Shaggy
fluid trail
if they nerf that move too hard it just wont be the funny falcon fair
loud light
There were so many comparisons back in beta it was hilarious
fluid trail
Its worst arya side air
why can she combo into a move that kills at 100...
loud light
if they nerf that move too hard it just wont be the funny falcon fair
That’s a good point lmao
crisp bronze
70 vs finn probably
loud light
why can she combo into a move that kills at 100...
Because Arya
crisp bronze
fluid trail
you have to get lucky and hope to god she doesnt get the 50/50 di read
fluid trail
to an UNCHARGED MOVE
loud light
Joker lowkey still the god of combos, Flacoco showed me and some people a clip of him killing Gizmo at 5 with dodge after hitstun on
crisp bronze
Nah
loud light
And Finn at 20
crisp bronze
Its charged
fluid trail
very slightly
crisp bronze
Half charged bro
HALF
loud light
He hasn’t given me the clip 😠
crisp bronze
Bcs fore some reason up light on arya have 2 hour stun frames
fluid trail
Half charged bro
HALF
actually?
crisp bronze
Yes
fluid trail
why tf does up b have so much hitstun 😭
crisp bronze
Nobody know
loud light
Every day is her day
I guess Tony loves Game of Thrones
I remember when Arya was just Finn but worse
crisp bronze
Anyway
I think people are to harsh on garnet
(Im talking to you fel)
She have some crazy things
Problem is 80 % of garnet players play her terribly
And we doesnt have much players anyway
loud light
Cause Finn gem exists
loud light
Anyway
I think people are to harsh on garnet
(Im talking to you fel)
She have ...
Yeah half the hate for characters is cause so many people play them
So Gizmo’s little annoying rat self can fall out of combos and make me play CS GO with his bow
But yeah nerf Finn to the ground
(I do support Finn nerfs tho lol)
loud light
Never said he wasn’t
Idc if they nerf him as long as he’s still fun to combo with
We’re gonna get part 2 to that one Finn nerf train during beta
loud light
Yeah
Being able to pull a taz sandwich with every tilt is nice
But not for that long
Like a 5-6 second hold should be good
Maybe 4.5 even
But not a damn 15 seconds
fluid trail
Anyway
I think people are to harsh on garnet
(Im talking to you fel)
She have ...
i'll stop saying shes so bad when characters like arya and morty stop falling out of my multihits
crisp bronze
But 8-10 i think
crisp bronze
We need to actualy start to report bugs i think
Bcs she is probably the most bugged character in the game
loud light
Arya?
crisp bronze
Garnet
loud light
Oh
crisp bronze
She have so many strange interaction
fluid trail
Bcs she is probably the most bugged character in the game
morty mains would disagree with you heavily
loud light
lol
crisp bronze
S tier mains being delulu gaslighters?
Tell me something new
loud light
You mispronounced Dirty dirt dirtington
Veriflied defending why Morty isn’t that good for his life:
crisp bronze
Btw
Zeekey
Wanna play vs me 30 minutes from now?
loud light
Nah dude I’m not that good
I struggled against the top 40 VELMA
My best feat was being top 250 Finn for like the first week of ranked
crisp bronze
Dont worry
Im top 1, master 2 garnet
What can i even do to you
loud light
Mf is downplaying themselves
crisp bronze
loud light
Immaculate downplay but sure I’ll spar
fluid trail
joker is torture
you make one mistake he gets a guaranteed combo for at least 40
bad di its a kill
and he kills at 70
crisp bronze
You talking like garnet doesnt have combos for 40+
But ye
Jab and up air need to go on joker
fluid trail
You talking like garnet doesnt have combos for 40+
But ye
Jab and up air need t...
those both require effort to start and require di reads
crisp bronze
Sair jab gauntlet dash attack
loud light
Joker literally just needs jab
loud light
I mean Finn does too but Finn up tilt doesn’t kill at 70
crisp bronze
It doesnt requier skill
And it cant be stoped by di
fluid trail
gauntlet also has cooldown
crisp bronze
As i said
Jokers jab is bsht
crisp bronze
gauntlet also has cooldown
Then sair jab elbow sair up air
loud light
It doesnt requier skill
And it cant be stoped by di
He has a combo that kills Finn at 20
And di doesn’t matter
loud light
Because down air is spaced perfectly so it doesn’t
crisp bronze
Just a little less than morty and arya
fluid trail
Sair jab gauntlet dash attack
this does a grand total of 🎉 27 damage 🎉
loud light
this does a grand total of 🎉 27 damage 🎉
Oof
fluid trail
and datk does 8
crisp bronze
Ok
Nvm
Why this move is terrible
crisp bronze
and datk does 8
What perks are you playing
fluid trail
marker ignite i forget the last two
crisp bronze
I feel like garnet deals horendous damage when im playing
fluid trail
like strong damage?
fluid trail
probably to bigbodies
crisp bronze
No
Vs anything
loud light
Yeah Garnet should do more
crisp bronze
Need touch Harley 1 time to deal as much as she in 3 combos
fluid trail
Need touch Harley 1 time to deal as much as she in 3 combos
thats cuz harley sucks now
loud light
Just dodge or walk away 😭
loud light
thats cuz harley sucks now
She mainly just has little endlag on whiff
crisp bronze
thats cuz harley sucks now
Ok
But i feel like im dealing banana guard damage
How much shoulder deals
Btw
fluid trail
im debating switching out ignite for snowball effect but idk
crisp bronze
When i Play vs our Finn main
crisp bronze
im debating switching out ignite for snowball effect but idk
Tbh i feel like ignite is bait perk on her
At least for my playstyle mayby
fluid trail
ignite i feel is only good against characters without strong defensive options
and thats not a lot of them
crisp bronze
Its strong vs match ups where you can consistently combo someone with projectile
And its not a lot
I hit like 1 gaunt dash attack a match
And one attack from up special into any attack
loud light
Bros plotting on my whooping 😔
crisp bronze
Nah
I just want to see if im delulu
Or she dealing massive damage
loud light
Oh
loud light
Yay 😭
fluid trail
Or you dead at 30
love that about garnet
crisp bronze
Ye
And that's the funny thing
There is not any other characters than her and Superman that can abuse meter burnout that good.
The thing is garnet doomers refuse to learn she have some absurd things too and prefer to complain all the time
@loud light
Well
It got delayed a bit
Gimme like 20 more
loud light
Alr
crisp bronze
Oke
Gimme moment and i invite
crisp bronze
get elbowed
loud light
Why did I agree to a whooping 😭
crisp bronze
d tier pooowaaaaasa
tiny comet
D tier is such an agenda
Lmaoo
I pretty close to putting harley in D tier with how light she is
signal dirge
People are falling out of my up special so often it's getting annoying
I was gonna call it inconsistent but I thought people would bully me like they do for sair.
loud light
Should’ve just gone to ledge
crisp bronze
loud light
tiny comet
loud light
Tony help me
tiny comet
I’d put taz over her anyday
crisp bronze
bruh
loud light
Spiked*
tiny comet
Rip
loud light
Fern started tweaking lmao
crisp bronze
after this match i will try something
fluid trail
just had a match where an arya fell out of FOUR DIFFERENT CONFIRMS on last stock and it almost lost me the match
loud light
after this match i will try something
Ok
crisp bronze
lag may be by my side
but i need to check
signal dirge
I pray for sair consistency buff
loud light
My internet is tweaking
loud light
W ladder tho
tiny comet
just had a match where an arya fell out of FOUR DIFFERENT CONFIRMS on last stock...
Its one of those things where people dont get sucked into rekkas or clap
crisp bronze
gimme moment
tiny comet
Like they would with shaggy or superman confirms
loud light
And then other times it gives up
tiny comet
#1245143274260402222problems
loud light
My internet is a thrower
crisp bronze
lets try now
loud light
Ok
signal dirge
A whole tier is kinda wild to me
loud light
The fact I’m even getting a stock off in the first place is wild to me
signal dirge
Honestly make sair 2 come out faster make sair 2 input time shorter.
crisp bronze
i could not hit 1 combo
bcs you were teleporting
loud light
I figured
crisp bronze
i think its on your side
crisp bronze
AGRO GARNET BABYYY
crisp bronze
Oke
loud light
My internet my just be cheeks in general rn
crisp bronze
Btw
What do you thing about damage
crisp bronze
Oj
crisp bronze
Oke
Get ready then
loud light
Alr
crisp bronze
You in lobby right?
loud light
Nah it kicked me
loud light
I’m in the normal lobby for me
crisp bronze
Lets just restart
loud light
Ok
loud light
Bruh
I can’t even send a game invite 😭
Only the damn friend invite
This game is cooked
Nvm
crisp bronze
dash attack versus
loud light
Garnet on roids
signal dirge
Garnets bottom 3
loud light
Done
loud light
Garnets bottom 3
Mf I’m fighting the top 3 Garnet 😭
I’m not that much of a gamer
This is the Mike Tyson of Garnet mains what did you expect me to do
crisp bronze
Garnets bottom 3
loud light
Velma over garnet is crazy
signal dirge
TRUE
loud light
My internet is cooked
crisp bronze
a bit
loud light
I got stuck on the ledge for a moment 😭
crisp bronze
bruh
loud light
Is it better than the other internet?
crisp bronze
i think 1 one was a bit better
loud light
Ima switch back lol
signal dirge
How do I post this fross
loud light
Back
loud light
Tf
crisp bronze
it kicked you
signal dirge
Also every character can move like 2 up and down
crisp bronze
i swear
agro garnet is best way you can play her
loud light
Tony save me please 😭
crisp bronze
parrying garnet is tricky tho
loud light
Fair
crisp bronze
outside dash attack
fluid trail
can you please explain how you consider superman an even matchup @crisp bronze
loud light
I can’t escape 😭
fluid trail
hes just not
loud light
How the hell do I fight 😔
fluid trail
garnet just cant kill him unless you get lucky
loud light
I’m fighting Doomguy with fisticuffs
crisp bronze
How the hell do I fight 😔
losing to garnet 💀
crisp bronze
garnet just cant kill him unless you get lucky
he burning meter like its winter season