She snuffs combos
#Garnet
signal dirge
The cool down is large. But surviving is surviving
signal dirge
Velma is best with a tank
rancid cedar
I dont know if it does something else in 2s but all it does is make your cooldown go down a bit faster
IT doesn’t even reset it
💀
signal dirge
Morty really could use that. There's a few cool down heavy characters
rancid cedar
It’s the most easiest projectile to avoid
signal dirge
Which you can't if you're trying to combo
rancid cedar
IT also bugs out a lot
rancid cedar
If she had combos I would agree that she has potential
signal dirge
I still see my teamates trying to duck under it and just getting hit
rancid cedar
If she had combos I would agree that she has potential
But you can do anything her jab
I know like 5 or 6 characters that can get you to 40/50+ just from a jab. But comparison in this game isn’t a good thing
I believe Velma is the only character that can’t get a consistent combo from jab
signal dirge
I'll agree she's terrible in one's. But she's a zoner assist in 2s. She has some good hits but it's like mercy in overwatch
They stand behind someone. And collect clues while zoning
rancid cedar
I'll agree she's terrible in one's. But she's a zoner assist in 2s. She has so...
I would rather want a Brigette
Damage dealing too
frozen iris
Velma is a lot better now. I would put her at the same place as Garnet.
signal dirge
I'd place her slightly above garnet imo
rancid cedar
Velma is a lot better now. I would put her at the same place as Garnet.
You downplay garnet to much
💀💀💀💀
Actually
signal dirge
Nah Velma just ain't terrible
signal dirge
And garnet struggles against projectiles despite having sing
rancid cedar
I think the book also goes to teammates right?
signal dirge
Yes
Velma best character combos are better than garnets
The best of Velma teams are better than garnets
rancid cedar
Who’s better in 2s
signal dirge
Eitherway garnet is bottom 3 or 4 imo
rancid cedar
Reindog or Velma?
signal dirge
Reindog
He got super buffed mid-season
Also that's why Velma players don't exist. Just play reindog
A more controllable zoner with a more straightforward support tool and better close options
rancid cedar
Also that's why Velma players don't exist. Just play reindog
That one move is carrying him
To pull teammate to you right
signal dirge
Yeah. But also the fire rain attack covers alot
I mean. How do we feel about the banana these days
I say he's bottom 3 but people contest it
That fair is great. But like. It isn't THAT great
tiny comet
Eitherway garnet is bottom 3 or 4 imo
The z agenda
tiny comet
Idk
signal dirge
Best move in multiversus
tiny comet
💯
signal dirge
Personally. Jason < banana < garnet < Velma
Nair can punish all banana guard attacks
All 3
signal dirge
The skittles agenda vs the Z agenda
upbeat fable
Ima be honest
They really have just nerfed Banana
So much more than others
Simply because he's a joke character that got a ton of pushback
signal dirge
Is he worse than Jason?
upbeat fable
No
signal dirge
Where do you place him lmao
signal dirge
Woah.
tiny comet
That banana deserved it high key
upbeat fable
True
tiny comet
But
upbeat fable
Now actually nerf other characters please
signal dirge
I mean sure. But besides forward air what's that good?
tiny comet
They shouldve did the same to bugs sooner
upbeat fable
He's got good range for poking
And his juggle game is there
Mess up and you're taking like 10 up airs
Some characters have trouble doing that
signal dirge
Garnet still bottom 3 then
upbeat fable
No
frozen iris
They really have just nerfed Banana
They only hit two moves. The problem is that the player based learned the match-up he's way too linear and doesn't have any mix-up or movement. He will only get worse by virtue of everyone getting better.
upbeat fable
They only hit two moves. The problem is that the player based learned the match-...
Yea but you could say the same about Shaggy, and that dude is still broken
upbeat fable
Yes
signal dirge
Fine. Jason. Jake. Garnet
tiny comet
Jake low key is op rn
upbeat fable
Velma is not better than Garnet
Yea take that low key to space
Cause that take is out of this world wrong
tiny comet
tiny comet
Truth
signal dirge
Snnoorrreeeee
tiny comet
I ragdoll ig
upbeat fable
And if you aren't
signal dirge
Ok. Where is stripe
upbeat fable
Like... Low tier
I forget that dude exists apart from rifts where all he does is dynamite into top blastzone
AND HE'S A BOSS
tiny comet
Stripe like low mid tier
signal dirge
I can't get a read on him. He doesn't feel strong but then if you hafta recover he shoots you at like 50 and you die. But the other 90% of the time he's not doing much
upbeat fable
Meanwhile Gizmo out here with a tod
tiny comet
Umbrella and his size carries him so
tiny comet
Taz op
upbeat fable
Taz can be good
The Taz mains say he's bad
You can't get a read on any character
Cause everybody just says their main is ass
signal dirge
Some are obvious. But some of the gimmicky ones confuse me sometimes
upbeat fable
😐
signal dirge
I think they got alot of buffs and became usable
Garnet got nerfed to death with the loop removal
tiny comet
She just need better kill options
signal dirge
That's what your teamate does for u in 2s
tiny comet
But who ever said she pairs well with a tank, i agree
signal dirge
That's me
Also why would I play 1s when morty exists
I've never fought him in 1s but you'd just get hit and never get in
Agent Smith Is crazy in 2s
dark seal
Hey @signal dirge this you??
signal dirge
Is it me?
signal dirge
Possibly. I'm just casually playing for the event
dark seal
ZeliriousZ?
signal dirge
Yeah that's me. I'm plastered rn. It's Friday
Why wanna run somethin?
Or are you just here to brag
dark seal
I’m just saying it a coincidence we matched up in the same lobby?
you sold me tho
but I wasn’t tryna brag
signal dirge
Oh yeah I've been in a match the entire time I've been texting you
I'm just here for the exp thinh
I did get pieced against that wall though.
dark seal
Yea that BG was going crazy
signal dirge
Crazy we got the same game tho
tiny comet
dense pine
<:jerry_fist:1007095140034281602>
Lucky I'm fighting all the shaggy stripes gizmos and velmas
fleet birch
Yea that BG was going crazy
Idk why but ur name seems familiar
Did u play garnet recently?
crisp bronze
Garnet got nerfed to death with the loop removal
it doesnt. its nerfed to death one tricks, who could pull 1 trick entire game
signal dirge
Garnet bottom 3
For as long as people come here for opinions on garnet. Even if she becomes the best character in the gane
Garnet bottom 3
tiny comet
👀
crisp bronze
Garnet bottom 3
i mean
arya mains somehow gaslight devs to not nerf her
and being top tier antire beta
signal dirge
See. It works
Frosstea my pal. My old friend FT. You see my vision don't ya
The ooolll frosster
tiny comet
i mean
arya mains somehow gaslight devs to not nerf her
Only thing that really needs a nerf is her sair
But not the knock back just the part where it hitbox hits people behind her
But they might keep it in since samurai jack might do the same
Who knows
crisp bronze
They need nerf her end lags
Tbh moves are mostly ok
She need to have a bit stronger moves than most, bcs she dying from light breeze, but her end lags on miss are fcking joke
rancid cargo
@crisp bronze run the 1s again fr
crisp bronze
Im out the house
signal dirge
I feel like people know more what they are doing now against garnet
They don't step on my stuff as much and really wall me out
Garnet and Rick go hard
rancid cedar
i mean
arya mains somehow gaslight devs to not nerf her
I main Arya but I agree she needs a nerf
rancid cedar
Only thing that really needs a nerf is her sair
No her up special is easily her best kit
If they just reduce some of the hitstun frames then she would be balanced.
signal dirge
Just give her like 2-3 more frames on every attack and call it a day.
Also. The spiral sword attack shouldn't have that big a hitbox
wicked tusk
Just came back maining Garnet, it felt different and i have to start from zero ig
Any suggestions for Garnet in 1s and 2s?
tiny comet
If they just reduce some of the hitstun frames then she would be balanced.
I disagree
Thats her bnb
She has very limited tools
She’d be pretty 🍑’s if air walker wasnt in the game
tiny comet
Just came back maining Garnet, it felt different and i have to start from zero i...
Punch them into the dirt
wicked tusk
Punch them into the dirt
i rather do the kick because it's easier to hit than punch so far
rancid cedar
She’d be pretty 🍑’s if air walker wasnt in the game
But Airwalker is in the game so she’s top 5
No point mentioning “ifs” or “but”
She can do so many different combos without using up special and I said reduce some frames. Not totally
Arya should not be able to hit upspecial into nair or airwalker when opponent is Di away. That’s ridiculous and has way to many stun frames
rancid cedar
Arya should not be able to hit **upspecial** into **nair or airwalker** when opp...
Oh and also the should make Di abit more stronger when repeating the same move in a true combo #combos message
Then she should be 100% balanced and might still be top 5
rancid cedar
Nobodys getting hit by all that
I wasn’t showing it so you can pull it in game
Im just showing what is possible with Arya and how stuff like that shouldn’t be in the game
Which character do you know that can hit a 90+ damage combo di full proof
tiny comet
Ig
rancid cedar
And I’m just a random discord person imagine what a pro can find
tiny comet
Arya
tiny comet
Laughing when getting response
rancid cedar
Possibly LeBron
tiny comet
Taz can
rancid cedar
I would be surprised if he can’t hit 50 with Di
tiny comet
But i digress
tiny comet
😏
tiny comet
rancid cedar
Iron giant 100% can’t
tiny comet
If you say so
rancid cedar
Unless he changes next patch
tiny comet
But ive seen it
rancid cedar
But ive seen it
💀💀💀
tiny comet
🤷♂️
rancid cedar
Nahhhh
I wanna tag someone
But I shouldn’t be disrespectful
Did bro just say he saw a iron giant do 90+ damage
tiny comet
Okay
rancid cedar
Bro plays with dodge button unbinded
rancid cedar
Any character that’s close to a 90+ damage combo Di full proof is LeBron bro
tiny comet
rancid cedar
Why do so many people troll in this server 🤦♂️
rancid cedar
🤣🤣
I would have fell for it if you didn’t say iron giant has a 90 damage combo
Should have stuck with superman
tiny comet
Nah
rancid cedar
5/10 rage bait
tiny comet
I gotchu good
tiny comet
😏
rancid cedar
Ima hit you with 90 dmg taz combo
Start of slow. Do 40+ instead 💀💀💀
tiny comet
Start of slow. Do 40+ instead 💀💀💀
Heres the clip
wicked tusk
Garnets actually worse than jason
not really from my exp, but i could be wrong since i haven't play 1s yet recently
signal dirge
Nah garnet bottom tier bro
wicked tusk
Nah garnet bottom tier bro
I mean the comparison between Garnet and Jason
signal dirge
Ita close but Jason can close stocks better and has more explosive gameplay
On average Jason is worse but they can kill early and get some easy stuff
rancid cargo
https://youtube.com/shorts/SXHMnicI6Pg?si=eTfKEPArsyIN3tKx
got rickrolled in the cross fire💀
wicked tusk
Ita close but Jason can close stocks better and has more explosive gameplay
have you try use anti armor perk set against him? it helped me a lot against armor char including Jason
rancid cargo
I recognise the actual rickroll video link just not the shorts version
crisp bronze
not really from my exp, but i could be wrong since i haven't play 1s yet recentl...
Dont listen to this guy
Bro is in Disney World with his dellusions
I seen you were asking how to play garnet
Ask whatever you want ^^
signal dirge
Garnet bottom 1 lmao
crisp bronze
Live your bottom tier life happly ^^
Jake,velma,bannana guard, jason
All worst
I would put some unpopular opinions
But these are 100% worst than garnet
signal dirge
Tbh if I'm not trolling I think that's fair
I do think Velma is a couple tier higher in 2s
crisp bronze
Talking pure 1s
wicked tusk
Garnets a 1s character and she'll still bottom 5
you said bottom 1 before, and now bottom 5
crisp bronze
I still think theres a few characters i would put bellow her
crisp bronze
But a lot of people would disagree
signal dirge
I think in 2s bottom 5 is the highest you could give her
crisp bronze
Ye
She mediocore at best in 2s
But on 1s she can be bonkers
wicked tusk
Well that's because garnet bottom 1
what's your region btw? maybe i can learn match up against your jason with my garnet
if we get desync, we can stop it
wicked tusk
If you want i can Play ditto against you
Me? i'm afraid i can't, Asia-Eu has worst connection than Asia-NA from my exp
but we can try right now if you can
crisp bronze
k
You playing pc so it should be good
crisp bronze
I was playing eu vs na a lot and when both players had decent connection latency was almost not noticable
And Asia is not that much far away from me than from na
I have just Russia between me and Asia
wicked tusk
I was playing eu vs na a lot and when both players had decent connection latency...
what's your id? i'll add and inv u
crisp bronze
FrossTea
wicked tusk
w8 for sec
crisp bronze
need some time tho
game patching for some reasons
wicked tusk
i added u
signal dirge
Should I tell him that I always give garnet the worst rank i can
wicked tusk
need some time tho
game patching for some reasons
w8, there's a new patch?
wicked tusk
no
game just patching/fixing game for some reasons
i see, i'm in game right now, w8ing for ya
crisp bronze
need 2 minutes
signal dirge
Garnet can get a lot of momentum if she can play her own game for a bit. You get a good read on your opponents and suddenly your 50/50s feel lile 70/30s. You can make just a few adjustments to take early stocks
wicked tusk
didnt play for like 5 days
same
signal dirge
In 2s you can get interrupted out of that and unless your hitting both. Your heavy and tall. Combo food
wicked tusk
aaaand im after 4 beers
i drink 2 colas
signal dirge
You mostly hope your teamate can get a little pressure off you so you can gamble again
signal dirge
You can be interrupted between every jab 1 and 2 with pokes
And you struggle to kill
crisp bronze
And you struggle to kill
only if you using wrong moves
signal dirge
You aren't sair looping in 2s and if you use up special off stage you don't get your 2 shoulder bashes
Spikes are still good tho but not as good as others
crisp bronze
bruh
lets try again
wicked tusk
i got dc
wicked tusk
too far probably
last one
wicked tusk
and it brought me back to opening menu and said disconnected, my goodness
i'm still in aunthetic loading
wicked tusk
bruh
wicked tusk
that's why i won't play with eu players for now until they fix this issue
i dunno what happen if they release ranked mode while issue still exist and becomes worse after every they release big patch
wicked tusk
you will play vs players from closest region
probably
but i played with asia player in rift mode few days ago, i still got desync ngl
the game's performance feels worse since after mid season patch
dense pine
What does the season 1 first place 1 badge mean
edgy arrow
times you've won Top Dog events
wicked tusk
What does the season 1 first place 1 badge mean
It means you had reached top 1 top dog challenge in season 1
dense pine
Ah
Should they be feared cause I fought one and they just suicided instead of fighting
edgy arrow
it just means they had a few days to no life more than anyone else
dense pine
Ah
fleet birch
But a lot of people would disagree
U def showed me shes better than i thought
tiny comet
got rickrolled in the cross fire💀
Never going to give you up
signal dirge
I feel like every character has a few great players though. That's how it's been since every fighter
fleet birch
As mich as I love Garnet when will we get amethyst
tiny comet
Neverrrrr
crisp bronze
we got 2 characters from this no name cartoon
fleet birch
we got 2 characters from this no name cartoon
I want all 4 tho
their moves cant be that hard to implement
crisp bronze
you have like 21412421 more famus moveis.games ect
fleet birch
you have like 21412421 more famus moveis.games ect
true
god I hate taz
What even happened to skillful gameplay
fleet birch
they are milions of more famus things
Yea but theyre pretty popular
Im getting sick of dying to stupid stuff
Wdym jokers moves all combo into each other and because garnets so big I cant dodge
But pearl would make a good assassin and amethyst a ranged character
crisp bronze
Yea but theyre pretty popular
not even close to dc,harry potter ect
even jack probably much more populat
fleet birch
not even close to dc,harry potter ect
Well yea ofc but i can still dream 
frozen iris
Lapis bismuth Connie or peridot
Bismuth gang or Connie/Lion with Stevonnie install.
frozen iris
Yaknow reindog exists. Sure but Connie on lion.
Connie with Lion is what I mean
signal dirge
I meant put
frozen iris
It would help with her mobility. And give her access to a portal jump
fleet birch
Yaknow reindog exists. Sure but Connie on lion.
Lion skin for reindog
dense pine
nah
we probably dont get any
If we did it'd more likely be a villian
signal dirge
Jasper would go hard. Also peridot w the limb enhancers and metal powers would fulfill both roles
fleet birch
I know it would never happen but having the diamonds as like an iron giant character would be so cool
signal dirge
White diamond with a possession mechanic would go super hard
Honestly. In that case opal.
Get all 4 gems in. And have a fusion rep that's like an actual fusion
Yaknow the big ones
fleet birch
Get all 4 gems in. And have a fusion rep that's like an actual fusion
obisidian
The one in that one KO animation
steven universe is like the perfect show to pull characters from
they all got their own moves
and they would all implement super well
signal dirge
If they are getting marceline in. Why not another steven universe character
Tho the characters will keep going. Who knows. Maybe lapis for season 18
fleet birch
I want amethyst the most
A whip attack with the spinning and the purple flames
transfrom into a helicopter
signal dirge
Also amethyst purple puma elbow spike
dense pine
Does anyone wanna run a 1v1 for funsies
dense pine
Rip to the Jason I just rematched 3 times for him to get folded
dense pine
🥺the garnet I just met suicided after I emoted when they wanted to fight 😂
dense pine
Love hitting people with the Lil car
dense pine
Just something about amethyst being a goober feels mean
signal dirge
Characters should not be balanced around parrying
tiny comet
Priority op
I need those tree to be removed
I enjoy (sarcasm) hitting people who swing away from me who im standing behind,
only for my punches to become a hurt box so i end up getting warped from behind to in front of them because garnet is an absolute unit.
Gotta use down attack just to hit people from behind now and days
Smh
signal dirge
Can I get a dash attack imput
If I bind left to rb can I like hit both then dash attack?
signal dirge
Can we. As garnet mains. All rally together to remove the ally mechanic on down special
Like. Where'd pfg headquarters
tiny comet
That reminds me i gotta make that list
signal dirge
95 thesis
tiny comet
The changes made beta vs launch
tiny comet
fleet birch
does batman feel like a better garnet?
dense pine
Just 2 pieced a batman back to back so I don't think so
He's got good gimmicks though
crisp bronze
Batman is character, that need actual good operator to be strong
upbeat fable
Batman is character, that need actual good operator to be strong
No
He sure doesn't
crisp bronze
He sure doesn't
Vs Jason he doesnt
He just throws faster attacks
upbeat fable
No
Against the entire cast he doesn't
He's fast with easy combos and built in weakened
crisp bronze
Ye
But i seen batmans doing drop kick into cancel entire match
And not doing anything
And this who have perfect control over batarangs
And hookshots
upbeat fable
Yea but there's a good player, an average player, and a garbage player
You're taking out the average one out of the equation
fleet birch
Just 2 pieced a batman back to back so I don't think so
maybe not everytime but i mean balancewise
crisp bronze
Ye
But if you just mash buttons there are so much better characters too
fleet birch
Similar moveset ranged attack but his explodes
his moves flow together a little better
upbeat fable
Ye
But if you just mash buttons there are so much better characters too
No 🤣
crisp bronze
Yes
fleet birch
Without he's a top 5 1s character
maybe not that high
upbeat fable
maybe not that high
Absolutely that high
fleet birch
like top 7
upbeat fable
Ok, give me the ones you think are better
crisp bronze
Without he's a top 5 1s character
Arya, Joker, Morty,WW, Steven
fleet birch
Arya, Joker, Morty,WW, Steven
Fross I want to see ur tierlist for 1's
fleet birch
I dont think thats true
crisp bronze
He is not
In any world
upbeat fable
He is
fleet birch
Steven is pretty broken when used right
upbeat fable
In every world
crisp bronze
THIS
Is character that you giving to mediocore player and he playing like hes fgc champion
Bcs you pressing 2 attacks
And winning
upbeat fable
Yea because they have an easy to use button
Doesn't make the character broken tho
That's like saying Jason's broken cause if he mashes right you die in 3 hits
crisp bronze
Jason cant be mashed
You have start up so long that you just cant mash
upbeat fable
Against Garnet
All I can do is mash
I need to guess what my opponent does in a lot of MU
But especially against Garnet
Also can we all just agree that IG is still #1?
fleet birch
Also can we all just agree that IG is still #1?
debatable id say WW but i havent gone against a great IG
upbeat fable
He still has a 0td
Also WW has been toned down quite a bit, I barely see her anymore
fleet birch
u gotta copy the image not the link to the site
fleet birch
Garnet #1 baby
until its a morty who wont fight just run the whole match
tiny comet
It bees like that
fleet birch
I hate morty with a passion
tiny comet
Just gotta have that clap ready
fleet birch
garnet is not balanced towards characters like that
I wish her little electric ball was just incorporated into a clap move
and why is her star move so buggy?
fleet birch
Just gotta have clap and nair all the time
kinda dumb tho i wish she wasnt best while on cooldown
tiny comet
But that dodging distance be wild
fleet birch
especially since the electric ball can only be done on the ground
and if theyre fast then u can barely be on the ground
tiny comet
Morty’s*
fleet birch
Morty’s*
oh yea but i think if they made garnets dodge go further she would b A tier
Idk if that sounds weird
But like iron giant and jason both have mechanics that make them harder to combo
iron giant does some weird explosion into death combo
and jason can just straight up tank attacks
superman too he just like glues himself to the ground for easy KOs
but garnets just big and has nothing going for her in the same way they do
So if they just make her dodge bigger then it would probably fix a ton of her issues
dense pine
maybe not everytime but i mean balancewise
Most batman players I fight rely on the combo punch spam and don't do much else until your in the air
fleet birch
Most batman players I fight rely on the combo punch spam and don't do much else ...
yea they fight kinda annoyingly
is that a word?
dense pine
is that a word?
I'll allow it 😂
signal dirge
Needs something to avoid combos. Like. 1st stack of rythym armor break
2nd stack grants 2 dodges for free on a token system
fleet birch
Needs something to avoid combos. Like. 1st stack of rythym armor break
2nd st...
Or just larger dodges?
would that work how i think it would?
signal dirge
Maybe longer dodges. But like the problem isn't they can't avoid attacks. It's that they get hit with like 7 at once
fleet birch
Maybe longer dodges. But like the problem isn't they can't avoid attacks. It's...
that too but i mean like
Finns backpack attackin air
Its almost unavoidable
signal dirge
Down and away
tiny comet
fleet birch
But if her dodge was longer
tiny comet
Everything
fleet birch
It would make it easier
signal dirge
Just dodge. Down and away
signal dirge
I think honestly. Garnet just needs some numbers
She has weaknesses. But when she escapes those or hits her perfect scenario if you don't kill you only did like 40-50 damage
tiny comet
signal dirge
I would like the point where side attack and sair go back to sair 1 sAtk 1 to be shorter.
I like being able to swing real late but sometimes I just wanna fish for sair 1 again
2nd stack of rythym. Auto parry the next melee attack. Lasts a little less than wonder woman's invincible sheild
Then gets put on cooldown where rythym would function as it does now
Punishment for letting her get 2 stacks. Makes her good again. And gives a reason to run electric groove
Instead of snooorreee 5%
tiny comet
5% or nothin
fleet birch
is 5% better then the star one
tiny comet
If they added lingering upspecial to the rng perk would be an improvement
And shield or an actually be able decide which way to throw the enemy for marker
Lets break the game
do 1000 damage
signal dirge
Lingering? Like. Howso. The projectile moves slower? The ground ball not exploding as fast?
Also armor for when it's on Allys should already be a thing for how useless it is
tiny comet
Lingering? Like. Howso. The projectile moves slower? The ground ball not expl...
Lingering buff to melee attacks to apply shock
As of now it only applies it if you stand on it only and attack on top of it
In the beta it stayed on
After leaving the field
Its the missing piece in garnets damage
But it can be op
signal dirge
Honestly I just hit the projectile directly and use it for combo extensions
But yeah would be cool
Tho the auto parry on 2nd rhythm is more fun. You just get it for free.
tiny comet
Exhibit A
See how the gauntlets stay electrified after leaving the field
Thats not the way it is in the current game
They want you to camp on your up special 😒
signal dirge
Maybe make the effect stick to you if you run over it like harleys
-# or we just can't have anything nice
-# at all
signal dirge
>Be Steven universe fan
>CN cancels su
>sadge.mp4
>Gets announced for multiversus
>Decent on launch
>Nerfed to ground a couple weeks later
What is this game
crisp bronze
2nd stack of rythym. Auto parry the next melee attack. Lasts a little less than...
Bro burned entire kitchen
Especialy when you can whitstand buff 2
By just taping it
As i said
She need tweeks
Not rework
Give her some better frame data, buff chances on groove to make it usable
And sudently she very strong
signal dirge
That's a hotter take than any burning I could have done. Unless by numbers you mean a significant change to frame data and hitboxes
Lengthen the cooldown on rockets as a buff.
dense pine
Dude I was just fighting for my life had to go to the bathroom and queued up just to fight a sweaty banana man and thank God they chose to jump off on the third ringout
signal dirge
Banana guard has like the best fair
golden sapphire
Forward air
dense pine
Ah he indeed did spam that
signal dirge
Yeeeo
fleet birch
me and my friend on 2v2 just decide to jump off everytime we see a black adam lol
signal dirge
TRUE
BASED
I can beat him now but like. He punishes u for having a dumb teamate
(Or watermelon steven)
fleet birch
I can beat him now but like. He punishes u for having a dumb teamate
Not even that hes just stupid
Like no skill just press for combos
signal dirge
Gee I'm so glad garnet isn't known for easy combos
fleet birch
Gee I'm so glad garnet isn't known for easy combos
right
She takes some thought
Sometimes we just look at the ppl we r against and jump off
im not going against wonderwoman and morty
NO
absolutely not
signal dirge
1v1s. I won't go against morty.
2v2s I'll go against whoever but I won't rematch
fleet birch
1v1s. I won't go against morty.
2v2s I'll go against whoever but I won't rem...
kinda fair but my friend is new
and not good
signal dirge
Throwing people into the ringer is how they learn.
fleet birch
Throwing people into the ringer is how they learn.
yea
but sometimes we both just go nope f this
signal dirge
Thats fair.
fleet birch
Like we both died at like 50 to a morty bomb with a WW spamming shield dash
signal dirge
Wonder woman needs cooldowns.
signal dirge
Honestly. These characters are broken from a fundamental perspective.
Full immunity shouldn't be here
fleet birch
Full immunity shouldn't be here
literallty
Dash attacks shouldnt be broken
Theres a reason why three of the S tier characters have broken dash attacks
iron giant wonderwoman and shaggy
woeful goblet
sad there's no free matrix skin for garnet
fleet birch
I just got stuck in a 70 dmg combo against an agent smith
I was spamming dodge I literally couldnt do anything
tiny comet
Agent smith got that new character agenda
Alot of his moves got some wild hitboxes
Dont burn yourself out over playing multiversus
fleet birch
Dont burn yourself out over playing multiversus
Im not she wasnt toxic
Garnets just massive
and hes basically all ranged
i just went for a combo and somehow couldnt move and jumped off on accident
but since it was vs black adam i took it as a sign to just not
OOOOH ANOTHER GARNET
ok just went 3-0 with her
tiny comet
🔥🔥🔥
fleet birch
Used the gauntlets for most of the KOS
tiny comet
Garnet diff
fleet birch
Cant wait for them to make her moves feel better to use
(Probably never gonna happen)
now I gotta just give up against agent smiths
I JUST DIED TO THAT???
Delete taz
what the hell
tiny comet
Op op
fleet birch
Op op
do u find that garnets down attack with the explosion will show the yellow but just not do anything
tiny comet
I cant say i have had that happen
If youre talking about dair no but grounded down attack whiffs on everything even remotely all air moves even if they are on the ground
Example would be taz dogpile and tornado was able to get interrupted by garnets down attack if they touched the ground, but after the beta they changed that
tiny comet
Morty and iron giant
Black adam would be 3rd if i saw him enough
Steven would be 4th
fleet birch
That’s pretty much my thoughts
tiny comet
And oh
fleet birch
Wonder Woman?
tiny comet
Correction
Gizmo would be my 1st
I actually dislike playing vs gizmo then all of them
tiny comet
His hurt box is so small but his hitboxes are so big
Gets alot priority
And i have to respect umbrella at all times
tiny comet
I just really dont like whiffing just because my opponent is small
Wonder woman can be challenging
Gotta play neutral
fleet birch
I just really dont like whiffing just because my opponent is small
Idk why but I just didn’t miss
tiny comet
fleet birch
Wonder woman can be challenging
Her moves are just massive and get full priority and free and easy KOs
tiny comet
Every patch they got new tech 😭
Down special her shield
Use projectiles when shes in the air to create space and confirm hits or kills
Combo up special, combo up special clap when opportunity arrises
I think its better to just dance after knocking her away
Her air up special just like steven has alot priority even when shes at a disadvantage
tiny comet
🙂↔️ pfg said nerfs only
upbeat fable
Hey question, What's more popular:
Matrix or Breaking Bad
signal dirge
Honestly. I just wanna consistency buff. Like I hope sair 1 up air still works. But like. Sair 1 should never not combo into sair 2
Today? Breaking bad. Culturally? Matrix
upbeat fable
I think Culturally is more important
It influenced a ton
And the moment people see a slow motion dodge scene
They instantly go to Matrix
signal dirge
Thats fair. This is like comparing Rick and morty to Simpsons
signal dirge
Yes but Rick and morty is currently more popular
I do think culturally is more important aswell but a good mix of both for reps os better
No one's hype for wicked witch
Or like. If you get from the reverse hit of Down jab. Let them get in it
Maybe lower the hitbox on up air to hit falling easier and combo into a fixed sair one. Then fix sair one to keep them in the attack no matter your momentum
This would make iad up air better too as a starter covering more options
signal dirge
Same w dair maybe.
If they wanna make her strengths stronger and avoid fixing her weaknesses
tiny comet
Nerf strengths buff weaknesses the pfg way
Last patch was a key example
Buffed down attack but “**adjusted”**side attack up attack combo ender
Wonder if we’ll get iad’s back
😌
I have ideas
signal dirge
I don't want that back
I want either armor/dodge. Or more consistent and higher priority hitboxes.
Maybe make the armor version of big punch snuff out projectiles
That puts her in a decent spot
Bonus if snuffing the projectile does hitbox extension
tiny comet
Interesting ideas
signal dirge
I think all of garnets hitboxes should have a circle on her center. Garnet can't wait for people to be in her zone. And she's not fast enough to say. Bad spacing get good
Besides projectiles obvi
crisp bronze
Steven would be 4th
From these i agree only with steven
For me 5 worst match ups are.
Arya, Harley, Steven, Marvin and finn
First 2 are by far the worst and borderline unplayable
Rest is just hard
tiny comet
For me 5 worst match ups are.
Arya, Harley, Steven, Marvin and finn
all of them
signal dirge
Finn is super hard but I have alot of fun fighting him
tiny comet
I kill harleys at 45 😌
signal dirge
I dont lose too often because you can wait finn out
crisp bronze
Nice
But if they get baited by nlight more than 3 times they rettarded
signal dirge
Sit below ledge and he has a slow reactable spike
tiny comet
Nice
But if they get baited by nlight more than 3 times they rettarded
Only if they spam nair for the third time in a row
signal dirge
Dodge in after getting hit by up special after garnet jab makes punch kinda true.
tiny comet
Insert kirby gif here ⬇️
signal dirge
They won't just not dodge
I uh don't even know how to start w arya
Harley tho you just kill earlier. And bat is easy to parry
crisp bronze
Still
By far worst match up is arya
Theres literaly nothing you can do against she on similar level to you
signal dirge
Same with bugs
signal dirge
And you can't big punch because she armor breaks
crisp bronze
The only way to Play this match up is to play turbo passive and have good parrys
Bcs her moves are not that hard to parry
signal dirge
Marvin and every other fill the screen with projectiles is hard
Morty gives me trouble
I play passive mostly
I lile fishing
crisp bronze
Problem with Marvin is that song is near useless vs him
Bcs you can reflect like 1 attack
signal dirge
The 3 rocket perk and Tom's 3 dynamite should be able to be reflected
crisp bronze
Tbh ufo is not a problem
I just punch it as long as it destroys
Best solution
Dynamite not being reflectable is scam tho
tiny comet
Dance is a scam
signal dirge
Let dance reflect unreflectables. Marvin's bubble does
Or maybe that's just allies
Maybe when your rythym is 2 allow it to do that
crisp bronze
Tbh this move in the fundamentals is broken
crisp bronze
Its the only move that can store enamy projectile
And shot it exacly when you want it
And where you want it
signal dirge
Honestly. Instead of having to hit it. Just send it the direction your holding. Then if your not holding. Then store it
Cover your option a little
Every other reflect Getz some hitbox to cover the option
Maybe just a little Soundwave to burst if you do store one. Like 3 damage and mid knock back
Also let the reflect come out earlier
crisp bronze
I will keep saying that she doesnt need move reworks (mayby outside jab 2 side)
She just need some QoL/frame data buff
Make this move to not stop you in time for 3 hours
And sudently its very good move
signal dirge
Honestly yeah. Make it fox shine
crisp bronze
Like
I understand why they may not want to buff this move
In beta it was best anty projectile move in the game
It was so good they nerfed it to block projectiles few frames later
As i said
This move on its design level is absolute bonkers
signal dirge
Why not replace it tho
I don't care for it particularly nor does anyone I've met
Counter fits future vision alot more
crisp bronze
what do you mean by counter?
signal dirge
Garnet hits a pose. If she gets hit during that pose she hits back instead. If she misses. Alot of endlag
crisp bronze
this idea is busted on so many levels i will not even try to talk about it
if it didnt get like 20 frames start up its busted
if it have 20+ frames start up
its useless
and not worth over dodge
you cant have auto counter in skill based game
crisp bronze
ok
where you have completly diffrent defensive tools set
in versus where theres very limited amount of grabs and projectiles you cant have auto melle counter
signal dirge
Make it have a cooldown if it's strong. IG has an instant combo break
Free tools are not unheard of here
crisp bronze
ye
bcs he is combed not for 50 like us
but for 100
signal dirge
Make it half as effective
Make it as active with the same frames as Nair but send up always
Wonder woman can literally tank a free hit.
I'm starting to think. You want garnet a lowtier like I do
Make electric groove guaranteed and see what happens
crisp bronze
I'm starting to think. You want garnet a lowtier like I do
no
im just not bias
and know that auto counter is very toxic mechanic
signal dirge
This game is toxic
crisp bronze
Make electric groove guaranteed and see what happens
this for example is much better idea
signal dirge
Honestly. 1st stack of rythym should be both effects and we should get a new better r 2
Maybe the ability to snuff projectiles out w aerials and neutral punch
crisp bronze
tbh armor break is much less needed in this version of game
but still its too strong to have it on 1 stack
especialy if groove worked as 100%
its perma shieldbreak entire match
xd
upbeat fable
Jason vs Garnet becomes 0-100
signal dirge
Make gaining it 50% slower and make groove work 50% of the time
crisp bronze
Jason vs Garnet becomes 0-100
nah
need 2 reads
signal dirge
Imo Jason just needs better angles. You should be put in strong disadvantage with every Jason hit
Maybe give Jason a passive that makes your attack lock out longer than your actual hitstun so you hafta dodge the next thing first
But once your safe you can wail on him again
That'll be scary
But not busted
signal dirge
Like. You get hit with grounded upspecial. You can move 5 frames faster. But you can't attack him for 15 frames. Dodge or parry.
Give Jason his ability to read em
Because now you just go. Oh no. Hits him and starts your combo again
I like that multiversus does fun things like make a character 3x larger than the cast. Much more creative than smash and brawlhalla
Let more characters do fun things
If I wanted to help garnet but keep her lowtier. 100% groove. Allys can't grab your star. Rockets come out a few frames faster
signal dirge
For the 10% increase that isn't even that busted compared to the speed on the basket ball stages?
Can anyone even tell rythym 1 is on?
toxic walrus
I'll try it out again, but man, Last Stand is so good on Garnet, it's hard enough giving it up so I can break through your Skittles, I'm not sure if the movespeed is worth.
tiny comet
signal dirge
Definitely not.
signal dirge
Fuckit. R1 now makes each attack 3 frames faster.
tiny comet
signal dirge
Break her
toxic walrus
Why are you so obsessed over tier placement Zel?
tiny comet
signal dirge
I like discussing. I actually want garnet low tier
toxic walrus
Why?
signal dirge
Fun
tiny comet
Zel be hilarious, and im all for it
toxic walrus
How is it fun?
tiny comet
toxic walrus
Is it just a hurr durr look at me im a low tier hero kinda thing?
signal dirge
Yes
toxic walrus
I hate that mindset.
signal dirge
Exactly
toxic walrus
It's just an excuse for losing.
signal dirge
Hate me then. But ya gotta kiss me first
Even it out
Nah just extra toxic about winning
tiny comet
Honestly it be hilarious beating ttv guys and seeing the char
tiny comet
” how you playing arya or joker losing to garnet” at least get one win
toxic walrus
Ain't a winners mindset. Can't blame it all on the character, you gotta look at yourself too.
crisp bronze
I'll try it out again, but man, Last Stand is so good on Garnet, it's hard enoug...
last stand is the guardian angel of big characters
its broken beyond imagination
but only on bulky characters
signal dirge
I bet bro doesn't even run troll tactics
toxic walrus
I'm all for a little trolling, but I better see that same mindset when ranked comes out.
tiny comet
toxic walrus
signal dirge
Oh definitely
On my soul if I'm not playing with my raging brother batmoon I'll be using troll tactics
Tho fr no joking I do want them to remove the ally mechanic from down special or give it armor or something when they do grab it
It's harmful and makes me despise my team
crisp bronze
someone for spar?
toxic walrus
aight lesgo
signal dirge
Imagine having to work
signal dirge
Huh. 830 to 5 on weekdays here
toxic walrus
AM I mean.
6am - 2pm
weekdays
weekends off
woot
love having the whole day to do what I want after work
signal dirge
But you hafta sleep at like 930 to get 8 hours. I like staying up til midnight before sleeping
toxic walrus
Who says you can't do both? Burn the candle at both ends my friend!
The weekend is for sleeping!
toxic walrus
HA
You are weak.
I only drink water.
And the occassional zero sugar soda.
I do it no caffeine.
kill me
crisp bronze
accept