#Garnet
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her best options to me seem like
-landing rocket punch while they're off stage
-jab flurry into clap (grounded up special on cooldown)
-jab flurry into standing neutral attack (if you consistently jab into jab finisher they assume they cant dodge out of it so when you hit them with the big punch they dont think to dodge)
-rushing them with elbow charge (air side special on cd) when they dont expect it and they're off stage
-ground explosion (hitting the ground with down air) near the ledge since it can clip them if they're on the wall high enough and does respectable knockback
-good reads with air up special near the top edge
-using grounded up special (electric bolt) to put it on cd and then both you and the opponent forgetting about it and then punching them directly into it just as it explodes in what is absolutely a 7000 iq masterstroke play and not sheer dumb luck (make sure to dance afterwards so they know you're good at the video game)
down air spike is also an option but its character dependant since imo garnet's recovery is slow/linear enough that putting yourself down on the wall with your enemy isn't worth it in a lot of matchups, especially against characters who have way better down air spikes like wonder woman and lebrong jambles
Are you winning? My fellow fisters

I guess not 
Add Marvin into that list of horrible matchups for her. He's one of my least favorites to fight
Could have phrased that a bit better 😅
I've played a bunch of the other characters, and I think Garnet has some of the best kill power in the game. Her being able to confirm up clap from Jab is extremely useful. You can kill a large amount of the cast at 80% with this on the maps with the lower ceiling. Every garnet should be utilizing this. Also her down special kills if you place it on the ledge. Also her elbow rush confirms into up special if you hit people off ledge with it. You can quickly jump and hit them with it. Also her up air is one of the most under utilized moves in the game. it kills VERY early, and jabs twice. People need to use it more.
The only reason she's low tier is because of her move speed, her size, and that she has a lot of trouble getting out of disadvantage. That alone knocks her down to a B tier
ooh
Also back on the topic of kill power, her side air kills. and you can prep it. Like, you can swing once, and wait almost a full second before you use her second swing (the one that kills). I've gotten so many kills with this
im probably just bad at confirms then
upair is definitely super good though, i love drifting sideways while using it so even when they dodge the first hit the second catches them
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OK SOULS 3 FINALY DESTROYED
A good marvin will just outrange you all day. He's just as frustrating as a good morty. Garnet is NOT good against projectile characters. Her neutral B has WAY too long endlag to be useful as a projectile counter against characters whose primary attacks are projectiles
just block fast projectiles with projectiles
and slower with neutral b
or just jump above/dodge
?
what
Mvs?
yep
nick?
Give em the sauce
@thorn summit ggs
He has too many projectiles he can shoot above him, you can't drop on him. And you cant approach with Neutral air because of that either. Nor elbow charge because of all the projectiles, and your gauntlets are on a MUCH longer cooldown so yo ucan just wait o nthem to approach, and up special is okay for zoning, but he has far more zoning tools to deal with that


Tried to tell them
you have balls of steal tho
you doing so much risky plays im speechless
Wp
My b
pick weakness perk
its broken beyond imagination
you get cooked only bcs this perk exist
ok thats more like it
but vs me when im plaing like rn you would have some trouble
😂
Wp 2
you are first garnet i have problems with
Clapped my ah
yas queen
First to 10?
yep

i will not drop 1 from now


u2
This is fun ngl
😂
garnet gameplay
Ggs
ggs

like
Ima practice what i learned
On some 2s plebs
anyway gg
i nead to yoink from you that mid stage dair
Ggs
They need to fix the ledge bug
Where garnet gets hooked on the top corner of a ledge and cant get up the small little spot
Happens so rarely but its so ass
These large, unnecessary hitboxes man like AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! SLAMS CONTROLLER
Controllers too expensive for me to slam ngl
I miss my table i used to slam 
Good times
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I get easily rungout at like 100 and cant even ringout like a bugs at 140
Also he can just reflect ur gauntlet
Why does jokers whole moveset basically just guarantee hit priority
and if u mess up its a trade
Garnet problems
garnet doesnt really need to approche
take space while being a threat
threat of 0 to deaths and side b (tackle)
taking space with side b projectile
that way you dont really need to gamble with trades
good suggestion tbh, but i'm still struggle to try this agianst taz tornado
well honestly im still experimenting
on smaller stages its really hard to do
i just dont think that approchen aka making the first move is consistently possible on garnet
only when you made enough space (forced the enemy to the ledge)
THEN
its go time
hopefully you'll find out, man i lost against taz just because taz's tornado and his kinda smoke brawler ig
i almost never play against taz :c
oh and one thing i have figured out (kinda late)
parry is broken
like actually busted
its insane
i'm not really good at parry
might sound obvious but one stupid mistake i made was thinking that you could parry with directional airdodges XD
(you can only parry with neutral dodge)
idk why i didnt notice it right away
Intentional parrying is pretty difficult
yea, i think i'll rely on accidental parrying ig
How do u parry efficiently
Well there isnt any secrets
Press Dodge exactly when you get hit by an attack
(Or i guess a TINY bit before you get hit)
Its only tricky when the move you are trying to dodge has an weird amount of startup
But thats just matchup knowledge
They just have weird timing
Not to mention this games weird buffer system
Like supermans hits all like have a ridiculous hold time
Garnets pretty decent in solos and 2v2
nvm shes really terrivle at 2v2s
i take back everything I said
omg shes kinda bad
Why does buggs bat hit below him and garnet can hit ppl right next to her???
It's just her own hitbox, it's too big for no reason
Exactly what I was complaining about but everyone said "Oh Its NoT that Big of A deaL" like bro
No its a big deal
Like
youre going to give characters like joker a bunch of spinning attacks and hit priority
And garnets running attacks that you start first dont even get priority
Half my attacks that start first i get stunned out of
Welcome to being a garnet main
You gotta find some combos routes with em
I usually do hit them its just when I really need it to land they dont move fast enough
or the character has some dumb move that prevents knockback like superman
I feel like garnets gauntlets should be like one of the strongest ranged attacks
Im not going against no joker in 1v1 im just gonna jump off the map atp
made a black adam quit tho
Also why does her star power just never work
I always get stuck on the ledge and become combo meat
Im sorry like why does black adam have like a 360 kick with huge hitbox and moves fast doing it too
and this is my third black adam in a row
Nvm i just 3 stocked one LOL
Lol
Is it because I main garnet that it feels like weaker characters are still a hard matchup?
You just bad then xd
Garnet have like 3/4 really hard match ups
I will not even comment xd
Velma is terrible
Garnet is just average b tier
She have problems with landing 1 hit
That's a fact
But at the same time when you hit you hitting like cargo train
Dealing unholy damage in every move
I just meant compared to my opponents who can dish out multiple combos have map control and huge up attacks garnets really bad
I make garnet work in twos, its easy to get away with stuff in chaos
Neutral attack everything to create spaces
😏
It’ll make em think twice about approaching
Only time garnets in trouble in 2s if shes getting ganked and your teammate is in spectator mode
Had a morty dying to steven marshmellow while i was fighting ww and steven by myself
Never dair ww just diagonal dodge then sairs her, her up special has to much priority over everything
I cant really be upset at 2s at times cause it really just be my teammate selling
If they die 3 times getting solo’d dying under 50 its on them
But im not going to let arya or joker air walker them to death
Garnet just doesn’t being much to a 2v2
Everythings doable in 2s but at times your teammate can be your worse enemy when executing combos
Bring*
Tell that to my wins
I dump bugs
She just doesn’t feel like she does much
Safe neutral punch bugs he explodes
He spawns a rocket you can hit him its an animation
Usually they run to the opposite side of map tho
Close the gapppp
Can’t do it that fast tho
Adaapt
There’s a reason he’s top tier
Just excuses
Can garnet take control over the stage with a rocket and safe
Punch them into the dirt
I rest my case
Garnet can control fights by using her punches and rocket punch to create space
And using certain moves you can make people feel real uncomfortable on the map stage
But other people can do it faster and easier
Especially with garnet being huge and how chaotic 2v2 is
You can overcome
Of course but the odds of you winning against a decent bugs in 2v2 is low
No bugs are decent
Once again a reason why bugs is so op
Theyre all the same
Like shaggy beta players
If you get hit by one nair just parry the next one
If they spawns rocket horizontal go up an hit them its not active till he lights it
Or rocket punch him from a distance
It lights so fast u usually can’t react
With this game speed thats cap
Especially if u land a hit and they get knocked backwards
By the time you approach ur just gonna run into it and get tossed around
Not me maybe you but not me
Just won vs bugs and tazz
Why taz loop not removed fpg but garnets is 
Congrats like I said still possible to win just a hard matchup
Her punch?
The grab throw
Wait ok so how do u approach a bugs fast enough to prevent a rocket move
Idk what to tell you bro
Rocket is so easy to avoid
You can dodge through it and it wont bother you
Unless marvin makes it come back 😂
I mean to approach it
Once it’s lit I know how to avoid it
But you said to approach them how do u get there fast enough
Usually they don’t spawn it that close
Like every time I’ll hit them they’ll get knocked back super far and immediately spawn it
The rocket isnt that fast just dodge
But I’m trying to make it so they can’t spawn it
I just want to know how u get to it so fast
You dodge jump and punch em shoulder bash or rocket punch
If they do it off the edge of the map they die
They dont recover fast enough on the animation
The cant exactly cancel out of it either
I can literally stand on it before it gets activated and not get hit and it’ll despawn too
Well then I guess I’m just going against smarter bugs players cuz they don’t do it close enough for me to do that
Maybe for you but mine are usually pretty smart
Okay bud
Bugs is not even top tier
He like 2nd
@fleet birch meow
Come 1v1
I would love to see how you Play
Mayby im just delulu
And you are good and im talking stupid things
I’ll have to after work
Bugs is definitely high tier though
Arya is strong asf
bugs is very versitile character. he is very good but he lack damage build up other top chacacters have
at least without walls
I was just using him as an example u can put a ton of characters in his place and they’re still really good at 2v2
I’ll message u when I get home so we can do customs if ur still down
when you will end?i will play tourney in brawlhalla in 2 hours and after im going to my friend
tbh i dont see her weaker than any other bruiser in the game
for me she is as good as black adam or shaggy rn
people think she is bad bcs they playing her like in beta
as grounded jaggernout with 1000 armor
she is no longer like that
she is terrible on the ground rn
only jab is decent
i would say they on par
bcs shaggy is better on ground
and garnet destoys him in air
I’ll be off at 3
Glad our matches went without lags considering our distances
Just garnet bugs 😂
Am I the only garnet main lagging out every match against Jason
only thing with jason and garnet is that jason drops her from axe for some reasons
Nobody else but Jason
Lol
Like beginning of the match it's super laggy then it crashes even if we stop fighting
btw
any garnet wanna 1v1 rn mayby?
Bet
What platform you playin on
Xbox
lets play first to 5
Yeaaa
Xbox servers pretty crap on mvs
Snarledstream66
Aww
Fpg gotta fix it
I never stayed in the loop when it went down I just thought it was server work
I too lag sometimes on night maps vs jason or ig on ps
press ready
and be ready for ass whooping
Games bugged asf haven't even loaded in 😂 lemme restart
xD
It's cause she's too op duuh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn-VdZ4LEKg holy fck what a banger. why yt showed me it that lateeeee
Been a problem its the devs fault
Got 1 ring out then I got folded like laundry
unga bunga agro garnet unga bunga

Doesnt Nair do like 10+ % and is able to combo into itself like 3 + times?
With amazing Stage control tools like Dig, Rocket and Safe?
Nair inconsistent momentum wise and random on hit as well unlike in the beta
Wdym random on hit?
Sometimes it’ll hit em ↗️ when it should hit em ↘️
What i thought Nair never sends them down?
WAIT
Are we taliing about the same nair
Im talking about bugs nair
Oh
XD
Ngl im not a fan of her nair
I sold
Garnet stretches her hitbox so weirdly
Bugs nair can get parried after the first or second hit
Unless their elite
But if your out of meter trade bugs nair with side special
You have better knock back in the that trade
I guess but more start up
And im most likely get pushed to the ledge because i cant Contest his rocket
Or dig
Or safe
Dont be afriad of rocket
Its pretty annoying
I know i know
But most people dont spawn it IN FRONT OF ME
Ngl im a big hater on dig
I think its broken af
Literally unreactable
Gives free stage control
Fair
If you dont respect it you will get hit by nair
And if you try to trade with him you literally need to guess if hes going into the hole or not
Because of its speed
I just jump on a platform or charge npunch
Im at a disadvantage on a platform
But sometimes that dont work
N charge is terrible because the bugs can just react and not use the hole
Dodge 😏
Still a disadvantage
You’ll be fine
You see how everything i could do against it is a read?
I need to respect it
Or gamble with a hard read
Dont respect nothing
Punch everything
My motto , my ninja way
😂
Convinced all the shaggy and bg players switch to bugs bunny
Cause i see neither of them anymore 😂
Are we still talking about twos or ones cause in ones it's a totally different story, lowkey kinda don't like how the game is built around 2s either yet it's the worst mode to play lol
Top 3 teams in 2s is ig and ig , steven and wonder woman, and bugs and marvin imo
You think bugs a problem wait till his projectiles track you 😂
That ish is diabolical
Bugs is a problem in general
In ones that's not the only threat lol
Joker arya only threats
Ig if he gets in his mech
I wont let him….
Damn thorns op

They need to balance around ones a bit more than 2s
Tbf meta on 1s getting more stable
Gizmo get gutted last patch
And he is not as mennacing at he was
“Gutted”
Tell that to a harley
Not really lol
Good Harley was as hard match up as vs good arya
Literaly unplayable for garnet
The only thing that make Harley look balanced is her damage
You need to touch her one time to do as much damage as her on 3 combos
Cause the devs decided to make garnets own hitbox the size of a planet
Slide up sair combo up air repeat
She tanky tho
She is like 3 tankiest character on the game
She's not a tank
I know
But she as tanky as supers
She's a bruiser though which I'm not getting why the devs just don't have her move a bit faster at least
Gotta remind people that ba is bruiser not a mage and marvin is an assassin not a mage
I be movin and groovin
With elegance
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Lol ok
She have slow start ups
But she is not slow
And amount of momentum tools she have is insane
I would like to not have to commit ALL of my moves
Rocket punch, projectile shock ball whatever that is lol and anything else?
Rocket missle punch idk they're flying fists lol
And a unique skill that makes a noticeable difference 5% really carrying garnet
Tbh 5% is very good on her bcs she tanky and hits like a truck
Even with better unique perk idk if i would not run 5% anyway
Yeah but i mean the other two were or are useless options
Kinda like jason other two options
That's not even momentum tools...
I still think Bash is one of the best move in the game
Its jack of all trades
So momentum tools meaning what cause im not seeing much
Unless there's a hidden special move i don't know about lol
I mean her dance is something
I guess
dance is very situational
dash attack, shoulder bash, t-pose, song
Can set up nasty parries
especialy bash
It does, till you face a top tier yea
Cause there moves for some reason hit you when your foot is in their faces
Shaggy effect
its good even vs top players xd
And yea idk why but i hope they keep it
i played some top 8/16 and even when they better than me i still can hit them with it
even win some games
still loba
use a lot of bash
Like shes not bottom 5 😂
she is true b tier
not the best
but you can play it
and win even vs meta chracters if you slightly better than them
I just neutral punch em
I face nothing but meta characters anyway so guess there's some hope
Must punch them into the dirt
Garnets way better in ones in than twos
Just gotta focus up
Of course she is, problem is the community rides the tier list so much cause of how busted the character they play is
Not saying i lose, just gets tiring facing the same 5 characters
No variety
And bugs is better in 2s than 1s
On what?
Hes obnoxious in twos just as he is in ones
But idk they're probably not even gonna touch him so whatever
In 1s its managable because i can handle bugs by himself
Me thinks garnet should become heavier to compensate being combo food
But in 2s randomness galore happens
Hell no lol
An idea
She needs to stop being combo food in general lol
What would you give garnet
Having her own hitbox reduced
Or fix hitboxes like what should've happened week one
Hitbox or hitboxes on her gauntlets
They're horrid
No im talking about hitboxes on characters
Naaaaaaaaa
Yes
But yes, ik garnet caked up but come on lol i get hit even when im behind the opponent most times
Then they wanna add ranked lmao ok fam
That ba clip haunts me to this day
In predicting the patch will anywhere between 15-30 gigs cause my god they have a lotta work to do
And same
I need up attack charged buffed back to the way it was in the beta
Aint no reason to nerf tht
Now it just tickles on hit
Sadly
@crisp bronze just killed this ww in 11 seconds with what i learned at 84
She was heated…
iad?
Indeed
Back to back garnets partners in 2s
Oh ship
Changed my number bottom 10
Lebron shaggy velma jake jason are worse than garnet
Whif sair into airupspecial too
There are some really bad batman players out here
Batmans too good of a character for people to be just spamming grapple like this is playstation all stars br spamming kratos hook chain
They getting fisted everytime
Taz loop better get removed in the next patch
Im not playin
Feel pain like me
not like garnet have 0 to 100 loop
im i right??
rightttt??
"Cry about it and get gud" is what people tell me
@crisp bronze sair in sairs (cd) is nasty
Genuinley what is up with game balancing? Why does superman have a bunch of just free kill moves
Wonder if we’ll get a unique skill in the patch notes
Armor on fully charged up attack 😂
Dive kick this batman

Superman just horizontal cheese with a hint of armor spam
Sairs (both) to create space and dont whiff because you going to hold something if you do
Use armor break perk or armor disable perk
Im more of a disabler cause people be spamming
Ill send u what I mean
They go to use a shield move not realizing shielded attacks are disabled for a few seconds after they got hit
Thatsss so unfortunate
Getting hit out of side special rocket is such a garnet thing to do even after you hear the audio queue of firing and it still dont come out
Or u do the down attack see the yellow explosion and still they take no damage
That killing at 81 is crazy ngl
Nah he got hit but upspecial first hitstun is barley a stun being honest
Why is he so fast???
Like garnet feels so slow
he dodges and goes across the map
Like what the hell
Honestly
If you dodged towards him, he would’ve whiffed
But even i wouldve gotten hit by that
Brother was bold as hell
Try to use down special as a mind game too
It’ll help with mobility or map control on how to approach
Superman such a chad character
Corner carry all the way to edge of maps making all types of uncomfortable
Superman is just so fast and tanky compared to garnet
To be fair you were out of dodge meter in the beginning
I mean in general
That second dair was like so close to hitting jesus
Like hes so fast he can just drah you out the map
😂
I just had a bugs again who just spammed those rockets
and won from is air attack
if they removed that up
Dont use slam ender anymore
Use either side special (cooldown), or up ender into up attack or down attack ender or neutral attack
Slam only really good for edge guard ledges but without armor it poopie overall better to get more damage using the other options
Literally slammed him then he just started walking back towards you with little to no knockback at all
Wait so how do u get down for an attack
but like if im in the air
and I need to get down
say im against a bugs
who has op up air
press down for fast fall
If you dodge his attack use up air while fast falling
I can never dodge that
Sair sair if hes right in front of you but punching distances
And air upspecial if hes touching you (too close)
You’ll get it eventually
I believe
Just gotta learn the tools
But its rough
M.I.B meme
Being a garnet player
😂
Sometimes its like one of those things where say to yourself if i was him (bugs) i would up air here so you dodge
I still never dodge them
Oir if I do
They just hit me again from below
Because the hitbox is so bad
Oof
I also got someone who was playing wonderwoman which ya know
kinda an impossible fight
Cap
what do u have on that makes her an armor killer
If she spams shield bash just jump dair or nair
But so we rematched he played as batman and I 2-0 him and then he got mad and then I got him banned from xbox LOL
Cooked
🤝
@north horizon i have another egregious clip
Of what?
I have another another one when me and fross played too
Oh nice
Hit boxes and hurt boxes
Ohh
Damn
Okay, working on adding jab in iad reverse sair loops into combos. It's so much fun.
fairest character in the game imo
Waddap Garnet enjoyers
see, you get it
like it’s kind of insane how filthy it feels to play WW or Shaggy coming from Garnet lmao
I’m just like “damn this is easy mode”
What does Sair mean
Side + Air
Ive been saying that too
Garnets like giga brain mode
yeah it feels like she doesn’t have a lot of crutches to lean on and you really just have to play your heart out and master matchups and read well to compete against a lot of the nonsense a lot of the roster has
I personally find batman to be one of the harder matchup because hes kinda everything she could be
Like theyre kinda similar in how they play but batman just has the edge due to him having a better kit
Ima believer if you got good fundamentals you can make garnet as good as arya
Just gotta feeeel the rhythm
Ima get neutral punch nerfed some how 😂
Garnet is heavily undervalued, she is only slightly less bs than some of the toptiers lol
her neutral is simply put mediocre but she has projectiles and they help a lot, then she has an absurd punish game and is one of the heaviest characters in the game
people downplay her to much lol
The downplay isn’t for nothing garnet has an awful disadvantage state just getting rag dolled by characters like T&J or Harley
nah but I know the types
Garnet will get buffs
and the downplayers will still downplay lol
biggest issue I see beyond disadvantage is just getting boxed out
but as is she gets beat up for 30 seconds and the moment you get 1 hit they suddenly take 70% or if its the second time you hit them they die
more so than anything else it just makes me excited for the prospect of a buff because she has the possibility of becoming so fun lol
This
i mean you are the opposite, you are the kind of chad that BELIEVES
whats the point of maining a character if you dont think they are absolutely goated
I play garnet for the thickness
also fair
Naaaah
Crystal gems will always find a way, to save the day

I don't know why I started maining Garnet
The voice, the thickness, just being able to punch really hard
Or maybe it was just cause I root for the underdog (sometimes), I play Zelda in Ultimate after all
but bottom line I just think she's neat 
I started the same as everyone else, but I'm starting to see the future vision #combos message
@slow shoal gg
nice to play against good garnet ^^
Gg
Who won
FrossTea
It was very fun
it was
damn
Wanna do a custom now?
sure
I can do a couple rounds
let me end match and will play

im in heat so if i will not win i dont have any exuses
IN HEAT?
XD
dayum
changed it to a better map too
flying elboooow
Y do ur elbows go so far LMAO
tilt them up or down when casting
i use mouse lol
and then tilt it down or up
Oh so i guess its the same thing
oh ok
im getting it
dont use this god dammed dlight
I feel like i run out of moves in air so fast
the down move?
ye
i dont even use it
or it just has no range
I dont understand what moves u cant make in air
Like after a doge and an attack they stop working
ok that wasnt bad
fist
I just click the button and it does something
to the ground
Ohhh
yea it never works for me
so her elbow karate kick thing is her strongest move
yes
ohh thats probably why i struggle with her
In the zone , autozone
those stars are so inconsistent
Yea shes definitley stronger than i thought
Shes just kinda clunky tho
a bit
THAT HIT FROM BEHIND
nah
Meow bout to get corner carried
Use the punch

Hope they dont nerf dair and nattack
I enjoy my bnb
U know what i didnt do too bad
I tried the weakness perk fross but its just not for me
I need my 5 % movement

Cant be worse than static electricity
I see
idk where my perks r
for me is the most broken perk in the game
i won entire stock thx to it
bcs i killed him at 70
xd
you need to leave the lobby
I think i gotta go back to change
and go to your character menu
what do i pick
To be fair i be playing 2s
I got them
This is key
I should try ignite again
Lmk when ur back imma try this on someone
Ok well i just 3 stocked a jake and made him give up
maybe she dont need buffs LMAO
Just make her less clunkty
Well Rounded 5%, Snowball Effect, Last Stand, Puglist for ones
^
Use press the advantage if youre going against iron giant
3 stocked a T&J who also gave up
Told you
People playing her wrong
And then cryingn
And use armor crush or armor killer if youre going against steve superman or wonder woman
Or at least that what i do
Speed force if you just want +5% speed all the time
Troll tactics if youre confident enough
😂
Ima cry
If nattack gets nerfed
Just beat a decent superman
If i had better timing in this game i woild run gravity platform
close match but only because hes braindead easy
Why i need to open peoples eyes how to play garnet
Cuz ur good
Like im only player who adapted to her after changes
I will keep telling people to get good
Nvm ignite ass
shaggy
30x?