she doesnt have any free fast boxing tools
#Garnet
restive nimbus
her side air punches are pretty fast
crisp bronze
Gaunt, side b on CD,
And sair
Sair is decently fast
idle hearth
i guess
restive nimbus
i find her side air punches to be very difficult to punish
crisp bronze
projectile is limited
Garnet is bruiser
With 2 projectiles
On low cd
Like
Its a lot
idle hearth
Side b on cd is slow to have real use out of disadvantage
side air is limited by range obviously
what about getting juggeling
we cant just press down air
or nair
its to slow
crisp bronze
I mean
Dodge exist
idle hearth
yeah
restive nimbus
her neutral air smash is decent too assuming you control your fall decently
idle hearth
but thats what happened in smash
crisp bronze
And you need to have some punish for being like 2/3 tankiest character in the game
idle hearth
i played mewtwo who struggled almost in the exact same way
big
no easy boxing tools
crisp bronze
- she hitting almost as hard as banana guard
restive nimbus
HATE banana guard
crisp bronze
Why?
Its so easy to dodge most of his attack
restive nimbus
yeah but he's just annoying
idle hearth
yeah but the question is IS IT REALLY THAT CRAZY TO BE HEAVY? im just imagining garnet being comboed and bullied by other chars
restive nimbus
it's like you are fighting what shaggy side special spam used to be
like yes, you can beat it, and it's telegraphed
but it's tedious
idle hearth
and most likely outzoned/camped even WITH neutral b
crisp bronze
yeah but the question is IS IT REALLY THAT CRAZY TO BE HEAVY? im just imagining ...
You live to 140 most of the time
Where light characters live to 80-100
idle hearth
You live to 140 most of the time
Where light characters live to 80-100
RIGHT NOW
yes
crisp bronze
Most of the time you can survive 1/2 more comboses
idle hearth
but what about in 5 months
i really dont believe that people figured out how to punish dodges etc
restive nimbus
in 5 months they will end their 2nd release of the beta
crisp bronze
i really dont believe that people figured out how to punish dodges etc
You doesn't have moves that covers every dodge
- parry exist
crisp bronze
in 5 months they will end their 2nd release of the beta
idle hearth
everyone has these options
thats nothing special
its like saying everyone has an airdodge in smash
yeah i guess?
crisp bronze
Tbh
Rn i feel in disadvantage only vs characters vs 1/2 frames start up moves
idle hearth
im not saying that you will lose 100% if the time
crisp bronze
Like arya/joker
idle hearth
Im literally chilling rn
restive nimbus
garnet is my fallback character when i'm feeling like i can't beat anyone, since i know i can beat anyone in the game with her
crisp bronze
Truth is she can be buffed to oblivion too
Like
She was top tier character for short time in beta
idle hearth
Man its annoying having to wait until the maintenace is over
crisp bronze
It is
restive nimbus
i hope they don't just do 90% nerfs every patch
that last patch was almost nothing but nerfs to everyone
crisp bronze
I mean
They nerfed IG again
restive nimbus
meanwhile my boy jake wasn't nerfed OR buffed...
idle hearth
ima big fan of nerfs
i saw what happened with smash
everyone was always in the mindset of "Lets rather buff than nerf" later i realised how stupid this is
crisp bronze
Still
I dont think garnet is bad rn
She have hard time to hit enamy
But if she hit she deals like 40 damage every time
idle hearth
Garnet is pretty solid yeah
restive nimbus
you also got a lot of shock with her
idle hearth
probably high B or A Tier
crisp bronze
Yep
restive nimbus
her clap, her air up special, and the lightning orb gives you shock on all hits
crisp bronze
her clap, her air up special, and the lightning orb gives you shock on all hits
Ye
And im still using 5% perk
idle hearth
hard to say for me because i LITERALLY NEVER play against banana guards and Wonder womans
5% Perk is goated
restive nimbus
i'm trying out the shock perk since the star one is down, it's honestly not that bad
crisp bronze
Banana guard is not even better than garnet
idle hearth
(others are literally ass)
crisp bronze
Ww is top tier
And good player is nightmate to deal with if you give too much space to Play
Tbh the only thing garnet need rn is dlight buff
Shock wave is fcking dogsht
restive nimbus
yeah it's horrible
crisp bronze
Its slow to use
It have qwintilion end lag frames
crisp bronze
And nothing is true with it
idle hearth
and does 1%
crisp bronze
And i will not even count how many times It saved me from deadly combos
Bcs It exploded
restive nimbus
i like baiting people with its explosion
crisp bronze
and does 1%
5 with dot
idle hearth
oh
crisp bronze
Ok
I have 2 things that need change
Side jab 2
And dlight
Bcs these moves are irrelevant
restive nimbus
i like the up and down ones
crisp bronze
Yep
idle hearth
i guess it has the most range which is nice when you miss input?
restive nimbus
that's why i wish her lightning ball was down special instead of forcing you to use it to unlock clap
if your ball comes up mid-combo it kind of screws things up
idle hearth
ngl
hottake
delete this stupid lighting ball
i hate it
i just want to use clap
restive nimbus
nah it's good
idle hearth
i can SOMETIMES use it for combos like jab into up b but it only works against tall characters
crisp bronze
From Shaggy kicks
From steven dairs
restive nimbus
i think what i proposed earlier would work perfectly fine: replace ground down special with lightning ball, integrate the star into her side special instead of it being a perk, and make her air down special the fly-to-star move
idle hearth
i think what i proposed earlier would work perfectly fine: replace ground down s...
wait
restive nimbus
and then she has permanent access to the really useful clap
idle hearth
thats actually is solid
crisp bronze
Oh cmon
How long they can do maintance
pearl dust
TIL garnet's ftilt doesnt actually have a hitbox on the "after image" punches
idle hearth
Oh cmon
How long they can do maintance
im currently thinking about either to go to sleep or to play leaguge of legends xd
crisp bronze
Dont Play league
crisp bronze
Just wait
pearl dust
wth
crisp bronze
I want to Play
pearl dust
i have no clue
crisp bronze
i had no clue it was this small
Ye i felt like few times it should hit
idle hearth
https://files.catbox.moe/xeiub1.png
the purple thingys are just the animations?
crisp bronze
But its didnt
idle hearth
right?
pearl dust
a lot of her hitboxes are weirdly small
idle hearth
HUH
pearl dust
blue is hurtbox
restive nimbus
you just reminded me another reason i don't touch jake much anymore: everything in his kit extends his HURTbox lol
idle hearth
why is garnets head not entirely a hurtbox lmao
pearl dust
restive nimbus
"Please hurt me"
pearl dust
why does her hurtbox extend out that far on her elbows???
idle hearth
wait THE SERVERS ARE BACK
pearl dust
i wish she had an active hitbox on her fists during downtilt
itd be a decent get off me tool
it just feels intentionally dogwater
up air is gigantic though idk why they made it so big
crisp bronze
wait THE SERVERS ARE BACK
No wae
crisp bronze
FrossTea
Let me get on game
And as i said
I will Play without loop combo
And will have excuses if i lose
XD
Its just too disgusting
pearl dust
down angled forward tilt doesnt even extend outside her hurtbox LMAOOO
giving melee bowser vibes
idle hearth
i graduated today and because im German that meant that i was drinking
for the first time
didnt really drink much because of the disgusting taste
but i still feel a bit sick
or well not exactly sick
a bit dizzy
crisp bronze
@idle hearth
wait
something with my network
ok
should be good now
i accidently connected to my neightbor network
xD
idle hearth
XD
crisp bronze
im just bashing elbow xd
and not leting you jab
i wanted to see if i can reverse
no cap
xD
idle hearth
Lets do a First to 10
crisp bronze
k
crisp bronze
yep
idle hearth
weird how they didnt patched it yet
crisp bronze
weird how they didnt patched it yet
i can manipulate it tho
but im not doing it
every time im doing it its missclick
idle hearth
Alirght its 3-9 ima switch character
crisp bronze
with her momentum options not playing aggresive is crime
crisp bronze
AGRO GARNET
idle hearth
damn
frozen iris
Anyone down to fight me in Garnet dittos? I'm bad at fighting Garnet (and it general), so I would be good to learn.
crisp bronze
indeed
crisp bronze
in most cases up air
but im tanky and its harder
but you said beind tanky is useless
idle hearth
never said that
crisp bronze
breathing is not allowed
idle hearth
damn downair is useless
idle hearth
stupid hitbox yet ass kill power
crisp bronze
its damage building move
crisp bronze
it cant build damage and have killpower
idle hearth
thats not a crazy thing to have
crisp bronze
but im hard to kill
crisp bronze
ok. then stop complaining about kill power of steven
idle hearth
people with literally have bigger kill windows on combos
crisp bronze
its not that he doesnt have it
crisp bronze
it is
but have sometimes hard time with killing
he have probably best damage build in the game
crisp bronze
no i just literally dont know kill setups
true
but there are better characters in this department
idle hearth
i literally just said that down air is underwhelming
because as far as i know they removed the loops
and combos
now it just as astupid hitbox
crisp bronze
yep
you are EXTREMLY jab dependent
idle hearth
because jab literally kills at 40
crisp bronze
because jab literally kills at 40
ye
bcs its loop that they will remove sooner or later
idle hearth
i just dont know how to play neutral
bcause i didnt play the game since the new patch came out
well almost atleast
last
crisp bronze
k
idle hearth
and its a bit sad to see how little she gets labbed
One question do you know where i can look up the hitboxes?
crisp bronze
Her momentum is so disgusting with elbow
I dont think there is other character that can choke enamy out of air as good as garnet
hushed osprey
did they.. remove one of her perks?
i bought one a while back and now it's just gone?
crisp bronze
i bought one a while back and now it's just gone?
They tweeking/reworking it
tiny comet
Reminder that all of garnets up special apply shock or electrify
novel copper
Definitely gotta try that
crisp bronze
Ok
Full charged nlight is funniest sht in the game
I literaly nuked arya at 30 from ledge xD
signal saffron
so I was gettin destroyed by wonder woman armor with the armor perks on, and I checked to see if Garnet had any armor break naturally outside of rhythm 2... and she doesn't now?
crisp bronze
so I was gettin destroyed by wonder woman armor with the armor perks on, and I c...
Down B is armor break
(the star)
Bcs its command grab
wicked tusk
Bcs its command grab
I like this move, but because they removed that perk
I have to do down + b then down + b
I always forgot about that move, since i always do the side + b and up + b
crisp bronze
Well
You just need to get used to it
Marker perk for me is useless af
Marking that star at totally random place
tiny comet
so I was gettin destroyed by wonder woman armor with the armor perks on, and I c...
Could also use the fully charge armor break perk 3rd slot
Personally i just use projectiles to get rid of the shield
And if i get a kill start dancing to get rhythm lvl 2 asap, some ww immediately shield after respawning or use the shield perk on respawning
tiny comet
Marker perk for me is useless af
Just find it hilarious they remove marker the signature, but didnt remove garnet from 1s and went like 2-3 weeks of garnet literally calling game by using down special in 1s stuck in animation 😂
north path
Is there a good reason why the armor Garnet has on her neutral ground attack doesn't kick in until like 60 whole frames after you started charging it? just seems useless for the purpose, especially with short ranged it is.
crisp bronze
Is there a good reason why the armor Garnet has on her neutral ground attack doe...
it would be op if she get it instant
move have stupid kill power
its bait move
wicked tusk
Is there a good reason why the armor Garnet has on her neutral ground attack doe...
i had misunderstood, i thought neutral ground (down) attack
but neutral attack with charging
north path
it would be op if she get it instant
I mean sure, but compare that to like superman, who has moves of the similar kind, but the armor comes out near instantly.
tiny comet
Superman is a tank which is where as garnet is a bruiser hence where the difference lie between character/class differences
And garnet got it on neutral probably to compensate for armor slam removed
wicked tusk
Is any garnet main had won often with good batman
i always lost against him until now, any advices?
tiny comet
Parry grapple or nattack
Trade projectile for projectile to avoid batterang
Punch them into the dirt
wicked tusk
Parry grapple or nattack
I think i'll try to second option, projectile is my thing with garnet
third one, i still don't get it, if that means punch him harder than him, it's not easy since batman mains always dodge and spacing from my offensive moves, he always get me first with his slide kick
tiny comet
I think i'll try to second option, projectile is my thing with garnet
third one,...
Down attack all slide kicks
Or side special cd
maiden tide
am i the only one who thinks garnet should get some form of a knockback or damage(maybe both) from her rhythm stacks
outside of the clap its pretty hard to confirm kills, especially for someone in the bruiser class
i also think they should slightly reduce her endlah on her downspecial because even when u bubble projectiles like a baterang you can get rushed down without having much chance to cancel it and move away
calm thistle
Parry grapple or nattack
Intentional parries are pretty difficult.
signal saffron
And if i get a kill start dancing to get rhythm lvl 2 asap, some ww immediately ...
Yeah! Shields feel really relentless in the current meta. I'm sure a few folks have called wonder woman a little overturned, but man it feels impossible to take her on at all lately with Garnet. Still, I'll give the gauntlet shot a try, because I still wanna try and figure it out. I also didn't realize the side normal finisher lost it's armor break property from the beta.
Like, oops, all shields.
clear forum
She needs more shields than her neutral attack. She’s at a good spot. I feel like she’s really good. She does struggle against most assassins like Finn and Marvin but she’s pretty good besides that.
dense pine
If you don't mind me adding stipe is Hella hard always get stuck in his combos and he throws me out fast
dense pine
Yeah! Shields feel really relentless in the current meta. I'm sure a few folks h...
I tend to charge up my dance with the electric perk and hit ww with the karate kick and the shoulder bash tends to help me big time
wicked tusk
If you don't mind me adding stipe is Hella hard always get stuck in his combos a...
I'll see when i mu against stripe if i get it often
novel copper
Ok
Full charged nlight is funniest sht in the game
I literaly nuked arya at 30 f...
Glad more Garnet mains are recognizing the power of punch
novel copper
Is any garnet main had won often with good batman
i always lost against him unti...
- Rhythm his Batarang and hit it to send it back, it applies Weakened (and it's always satisfying)
- Counter his grappling hook with Rocket Gauntlets or a charged punch
- Most Batman players tend to approach from the air with his down special as an opener, be ready for that
- Watch out for his dash attack
wicked tusk
1) Rhythm his Batarang and hit it to send it back, it applies Weakened (and it's...
3 and 4 are the thing that always got me
i kinda don't wanna waste my dodge meter, but i think i can try it, to be more aware and keep distance from him
thnx for advices 👍
novel copper
If you see the air down spec coming you can counter it with a ground up spec, the projectile will stop him
crisp bronze
Holy
A lot of thinking people on garnet chat
No wae
Tbh best counter to Batman's grapling is back dash
If you back dash It you have free opening with sair bcs he have some end lag on it
Batarang is only problem on close/medium range
Best way is just to destroy It with gaunt
Hardest thing about playing vs Batman is predicting his slide
Its very fast
And imput lag in this game is so big that i just cant react to it
tiny comet
Punch them into the dirt
trim kite
tiny comet
trim kite
picking up garnet as a secondary and having fun so far
woeful goblet
picking up garnet as a secondary and having fun so far
Out of curiosity who's your main?
novel copper
how do you perform IAD loops with garnet ???
After her jab, dodge upward-forward diagonal and perform a foward air attack all in an instant, like a fighting game input.
You'll know it succeeded if you do the fair while still at ground-level. After that, jab and repeat.
sour coyote
figured out randomly AFTER i made the question @novel copper lol
have to get used to the right angle though cause i also get neutral dodge lol
novel copper
Yeah, it's difficult. Sometimes I uair instead and botch the loop
trim kite
Out of curiosity who's your main?
Reindog, but nerfs feel bad lol
tiny comet
or rather IAD itself from jab 1
➡️ punch ↗️ dodge (aka iad)
Cant do it if ya out of dodge meter
burnt relic
what's her best perk now that marker been removed
novel copper
what's her best perk now that marker been removed
Honestly just stick with Well-Rounded
burnt relic
aight
crisp bronze
what's her best perk now that marker been removed
Marker was never best tho
wicked tusk
what's her best perk now that marker been removed
5℅
calm thistle
Punch having armor is so wonderful
maiden tide
am i tripping or did they remove garnets signature perk
short mica
they did
calm thistle
Garnets Nair is too op
It’s very nice when reading people’s air dodges back to stage
north horizon
Buff garnet
scenic owl
No
novel copper
Buff garnet
I genuinely don't think she needs a buff, she just needs her hurtboxes tuned a bit.
'Cause right now she gets caught by a lot of stuff that most other characters don't (like that CURSED FISH)
woeful goblet
I genuinely don't think she needs a buff, she just needs her hurtboxes tuned a b...
she doesn't need a major buff but a minor buff to a move would be nice. it levels her with other balanced characters like arya and batman
novel copper
Also there's a bug where if she does her Star Mark, she can't be grabbed. That needs to be fixed.
novel copper
she doesn't need a major buff but a minor buff to a move would be nice. it level...
if any of her moves need a buff like that I'd go with her air up special, it doesn't have the oomph that it did in the beta.
crisp bronze
Tbh only things she need are:
-Buffing dlight, bcs its dogshitt
-Reducing end lag on nsig to have a bit more fluid gameplay
buoyant shuttle
if by dlight you mean her electric shockwave down attack, its good its just a very situational tool/requires good reads
crisp bronze
if by dlight you mean her electric shockwave down attack, its good its just a ve...
my ass
2 hours start up
2 hours end lag
mediocore damage
hitbox so small its not even funny
buoyant shuttle
its a high risk/high return move that you're meant to use sparingly, when you predict enemies are going to approach from the ground or spam ground dodges
it doesnt do damage but it knocks them directly above you to combo into up tilt/up air/clap
tiny comet
Nah nerf garnet 2024-2026
Down light is a abysmal
Doesnt even hit a tazz spinning tornado on the ground
buoyant shuttle
it could definitely have a taller hitbox and im not saying its universally amazing but it does have a very specific use
buoyant shuttle
oh yeah, i just think its good to not sleep on it and keep it in the back of your mind
wicked tusk
Just played 1v1 mode with Garnet in a hour
- i consider put Morty into hard tier, I always lost against him recently
- good thing is, i won few times against **Batman **thnx for yall, so i put Batman into medium tier
- Arya, same case like Batman, i put her into medium tier as well
- Iron Giant, so far i don't have big issues with it
crisp bronze
it doesnt do damage but it knocks them directly above you to combo into up tilt/...
literaly never
it have dodge frames between hit with dlight and when you can hit next move
you have narrow window between 60-70 damage when you can up special as a true comb
idle hearth
did anybody really test the weakness perk?
because idk if im crazy or not but it FEELS crazy
it feels like the best one to have by far
wicked tusk
did anybody really test the weakness perk?
Not really helpful for me
Unless you have good aim on your down + attack and up + special
Or you can synergize it with electric perk (run on the ground 4 secs to get its effect)
idle hearth
i meant the one were you apply the weakness effect over 100%
woeful goblet
i meant the one were you apply the weakness effect over 100%
yeah i think that perk is very good for everyone except light characters
idle hearth
luckily enough Garnet is heavy
i dont really feel it against heavy hitters but against chars like steven
it is crazy
woeful goblet
thats true I think weakness and pugilist are the best perks ffor her 2nd and 3rd slots
not sure between flamable and snowball tho for her 1st slot
wicked tusk
did anybody really test the weakness perk?
oh you mean press the advantage and last stand perks?
idle hearth
last stand was the one yeah
wicked tusk
last stand was the one yeah
I think it's a good one
i used it mostly for 2v2 mode, as a tank role, when you're in high damage, run and dodge as you can and spam air neutral attack to knockback them and help your teammate
crisp bronze
it feels like the best one to have by far
witch one
enamy above 125
or you above 100
im using above 100
its goated
with 5 stack clap killing ig at 100
formal geyser
i meant the one were you apply the weakness effect over 100%
it is generally known to be the best perk in the game lol
I think vs some chars like shaggy where you expect to die the moment you hit 100% its awkward but even then weakness is such a strong status effect so it barley matters
formal geyser
they stated on release that their intent was to remove "lesser used perks" etc
but they removed the ice stacking perk which was amazing and used a lot and then added a bunch of nieche stuff that nobody wants to use
so I dont know what their planning is but as is rn
formal geyser
oh for sure! it was by far the strongest perk and it would be the same if it was still a thing
so its not bad that its gone just PFG's resoning makes no sense imo lol
frozen iris
what's her best perk now that marker been removed
I used Marker in 1v1s for mobility. I don't like it in 2s because your partner can accidentally pick up the star and it causes problems. Just use well-rounded.
tiny comet
they stated on release that their intent was to remove "lesser used perks" etc
This is the fattest lie in history because static electricity is still in the game
And its still 🚮
calm thistle
It’s really sad that about only 4 perks are good
buoyant shard
rigid storm
meow
rigid storm
👊 come here
formal geyser
This is the fattest lie in history because static electricity is still in the ga...
i mean i agree LOL
but that's what they said
rigid storm
<:garnet_excited:1009545291906678804>
🫂
north horizon
Heyoo
north horizon
Garnet got that thang on her ong
pearl dust
freak
novel copper
I just 3-0'd a Finn (again)
I gotta say
he might be my easiest matchup right now
nooooo, he RQ'd on me
now I feel bad
also confirmed that Garnet's cooldown tackle will just straight up kill light characters like Arya
that vertical knockback has its uses
rigid storm
I just 3-0'd a Finn (again)
how should i DI so they don’t ladder kill me off the top side of the screen omg
They just keep knocking me up 😭 like i wanna touch the floor pls
novel copper
how should i DI so they don’t ladder kill me off the top side of the screen omg
I just go downwards
I always stick to the ground fighting Finn
rigid storm
i try💔
tiny comet
I just go downwards
I do this and up attack to sneak free kills
novel copper
A lot of Finn's setups don't really work on Garnet, sadly 😭
between her armored punch which stops his shoulder charge and her down attack which halts ALL of his normals on the ground, he's kinda screwed
it's just a matter of reading what they do next, and since they all play EXACTLY the same...
😎
rigid storm
i used to be way better at dealing with them in beta
just gotta get used to it again ig
novel copper
It'll come to you with time
it took me a bit at first, but when I noticed that I can actually get out of his combo, everything changed
north horizon
it's just a matter of reading what they do next, and since they all play EXACTLY...
They're so annoying
wicked tusk
Any advices to win against TnJ with Garnet?
just lost against them with score 1-3 but i kept rematched until 4-6
i put TnJ in hard tier because my projectile easily get countered by TnJ any projectiles, my jump neutral attack always lost priority against Tom's up + attack
woeful goblet
Any advices to win against TnJ with Garnet?
just lost against them with score 1-...
Had a hard time against him as well the last time I matched with a good tnj. I figured maybe doing multiple down attacks can safely kill jerry? Then might be easier to approach him on the ground
wicked tusk
Had a hard time against him as well the last time I matched with a good tnj. I f...
to eliminate jerry with down attack, good to know
thnx for the info
wicked tusk
Had a hard time against him as well the last time I matched with a good tnj. I f...
How about tom up + attack?
woeful goblet
to eliminate jerry with down attack, good to know
thnx for the info
Haven't tried yet though it might be hard to do against very good tnj players as I'm guessing it takes 2-3 down attacks to kill jerry
woeful goblet
How about tom up + attack?
I'm thinking we can bait him do up attack and attack him from the side
wicked tusk
I'm thinking we can bait him do up attack and attack him from the side
hmmmmm, i'll try ig
thnx for the advices
novel copper
Any advices to win against TnJ with Garnet?
just lost against them with score 1-...
it's not an easy match up, the one thing you should prioritize is killing Jerry as soon as you can; your charged punch at the right distance will do the trick, and if Tom is stupid enough to try and stop you directly he'll also get caught by it
wicked tusk
it's not an easy match up, the one thing you should prioritize is killing Jerry ...
how about tom up + attack, any suggestion?
novel copper
a lot of Tom's moves have slow startup and can be parried easily
novel copper
how about tom up + attack, any suggestion?
parry it
wicked tusk
a lot of Tom's moves have slow startup and can be parried easily
i'm not pro at parry yet, that's one of main problem, and also i almost can't escape from it, need a lot of dodge meter
novel copper
as long as you can kill his range game, you'll have an advantage as his melee game isn't great
yeah, if you get caught you've just gotta ride it out until they make a mistake
wicked tusk
yeah, if you get caught you've just gotta ride it out until they make a mistake
not only get caught from on the air, but also in front of tom
sometimes i can escape from it by spamming dodge
But i think i'll try a bit better, Jerry is one of their keys and i need to be more patience and agile
thnx for the advices yall
crisp bronze
1v1 match up tier list
what do you think guys?
rick is at 0 tho
i overlooked him
novel copper
what do you think guys?
Pretty good, honestly
Though I'd put Steven at -1 instead of -2
crisp bronze
Nah
Good steven will outperform garnet every time bcs of dair being absolute warcrime
golden sapphire
Dair and fair are both war crimes.
Fair has a ridiculous hitbox plus can reflect projectiles if done timed right but deletes said projectiles if your late
tiny comet
Finna neutral punch all nair sair stevens
Spam this 
Use the 3rd shield perk that prevents him from doing shield moves after getting hit, its a hard counter for steven
Can always back up and trade with sairs (cd) in the air you have better knockback in the air
idle hearth
i found something VERY interesting guys
Side b kill confirm with the Hyperjump Tech
Im Pretty sure its True on No DI and DI in. will not work when ou DI OUT.
tiny comet
If sairs was consistent with i would rock with to follow up like that but
Rather just do up air or do air upspecial if the panic dodge as reaction
idle hearth
i always found it pretty consistent?
the hitbox on the second hit is huge and goes behind you too xD
idle hearth
The kill confirm only works with Side air and with the hyperjump
otherwise they will be to far up and away
on lower percent you can just use a normal jump
tiny comet
Gotta do it in game first though mika, different variables, different outcomes
idle hearth
thats why i said that it will not work on DI out
but why would you DI side b out on high percent
you will be offstage
tiny comet
Tbh
tiny comet
Wish they did special change to ground than air
Now its just ridiculous
They either go so far up that garnet cant follow up unless she uses all her resources,
Or they go in an awkward angle where timing and approach must be perfect to do, which is satisfying but bleh
Or they explode at 110-120
idle hearth
i love the side b change
way better than before which just was a better dash attack
🤷♂️
tiny comet
What is up with people dodging away from rocket and still not getting hit (if it was lebrons ball or bugs safe i’d still get hit tf)
I use side b and dair to edge guard in crunch situations
If wonder woman think ima challenge her up special with dair ima just dodge sairs her into a wall watch her bounce of the ground twice and explode
Same for harley
wicked tusk
https://discord.com/channels/879970800734711808/1009540458868899951/125408204420...
Intersting, thnx for sharing, i think i can try it
tiny comet
Down air and up air my favorite moves,
Dance down attack and air up special least favorite
idle hearth
just to be clear we will not be able to use this combo often
its just for niche situation when side b into sair isnt true anymore
THEN you can use hyperjump
wicked tusk
what is the counterplay against bugs dig?
timing
sometimes i counter it with air neutral attack or dodge with good timing
or you can jump into the platform
tiny comet
Bugs dig isnt safe if you can react to you can interrupt it once he spawns out
Also can ignore his rocket when spawns it, its not really active as projectile till it moves
idle hearth
well im currently testing it a bit
bug can instantly press Nair after dig
instantly
tiny comet
You can also put up special on it or yourself in hopes he’ll come out and the field explodes
I killed him a few times like that
tiny comet
what do you think guys?
I would put ig at +2 and ba at -1
tiny comet
Any advices to win against TnJ with Garnet?
just lost against them with score 1-...
Side special (cooldown) kills jerry instantly and nattack and down air fully charged kill jerry instantly as well
Spam down attack ground if theyre spamming up attack ground
Dance for incoming tennis balls and avoid dynamite either dodge away or react faster and hit him before he smacks it
woeful goblet
steven's jab jab uptilt kills but garnet's doesn't?
wicked tusk
Dance for incoming tennis balls and avoid dynamite either dodge away or react fa...
I did this sometimes, but tom will charged me immidietaly as soon as tom did the tennis balls projectile combo
Thnx for the advice
crisp bronze
Dance for incoming tennis balls and avoid dynamite either dodge away or react fa...
skittles why th from any people you seems only competent garnet player
xd
like very competent
north horizon
Hiya
crisp bronze
I can only speak from my experiences
ye
im doing exacly same things vs tom
and you dont talk too much
you adapting instead of whining
north horizon
Shaggy is so annoying
tiny comet
Truth
novel copper
skittles why th from any people you seems only competent garnet player
Ow?
buoyant shuttle
if you ask me the real challenge with technical chars like tom/jerry and morty and marvin is the only time you run into them its people who are crazy good at piloting them and destroy you and you dont learn much other than "oh no these are scary"
everyone says velma is trash but i have run into exactly one velma in pvp and it was when i was playing jason and i lost hard because i had absolutely no idea what good velmas even do
bugs is less scary to fight just because hes so popular ive had way more time to learn how to deal with him
tiny comet
Ow?
What that mean
Overwatch 😂 jk
I just be doing 2s punching people into the dirt
Then when they out of dodge meter juggle them with up air till they crash out
Then i go against steven and wonder woman i got pray my teammate has awareness
Shaggy and banana guard charges on top of the map dies (why are you like this)
tiny comet
Shaggy is so annoying
https://youtu.be/LGU4CZerzWw?si=-_81arboq4GyH2qN hit em with this
😂
onyx hazel
bugs is less scary to fight just because hes so popular ive had way more time to...
This exactly
north horizon
I hate pfg
I know garnet thicc af and all but my god her own hitbox shouldn't be THAT massive, i feel like im iron giant, combo food
calm thistle
lol 😂
north horizon
It's so stupid lol then her fists doesn't wanna freaking connect half the time when i see her clearly hit the opponent in the face
calm thistle
Her thickness definitely is annoying for getting comboed non stop
north horizon
It's dumb af
calm thistle
Luckliy her advantage state is quite oppressive
north horizon
I guess
She needs a hitbox buff, make it less massive ffs
Love being mid tier till then
onyx hazel
She needs a hitbox buff, make it less massive ffs
It’s wild how dishonest some characters hitboxes are, and then you have Garnet, if you aren’t touching them you aren’t hitting them 🤷♂️
tiny comet
@crisp bronze i missed seeing your fight 😦
crisp bronze
<@231739813659803648> i missed seeing your fight 😦
why xD
tiny comet
My dumbass was looking for it on twitch
tiny comet
Pretty sure your going to win probably
crisp bronze
Pretty sure your going to win probably
why you are not playing tho?
north horizon
It’s wild how dishonest some characters hitboxes are, and then you have Garnet, ...
Garnets own hitbox is way too massive imo
Ik she thick but no that's just outta line, the game basically think she's fat lol
crisp bronze
Ik she thick but no that's just outta line, the game basically think she's fat l...
she smaller than jason
what do you mean
onyx hazel
Ik she thick but no that's just outta line, the game basically think she's fat l...
Yeah her hurtbox is too large
tiny comet
😂
onyx hazel
https://youtu.be/EuOiE6bf_No?si=dBB7RB9QE4sz_q-t
Actually wild, damn
tiny comet
Ikr
crisp bronze
@tiny comet and what do you think?
tiny comet
Nice nice
neat basin
Y'all ever just bubble Mojo Jojo's bombs on Townsville?
I love it so much it pretty much makes them mines that if the enemy hits will mess them up
Won a game against a Finn like that lol
tiny comet
😮
wicked tusk
How to survive from Mojojojo's laser?
Match up against Steven, get bubbled yourself
novel copper
Y'all ever just bubble Mojo Jojo's bombs on Townsville?
Yes, every time.
woeful goblet
I love it so much it pretty much makes them mines that if the enemy hits will me...
I bubbled earlier then I thought it will be like other projectiles that I can hit to my opponent lol
tiny comet
How to survive from Mojojojo's laser?
Match up against Steven, get bubbled yours...
Hide on the ledge or hop on top of mojo’s ship
tiny comet
<@291163322777337856> and what do you think?
You the champ
Surprised not alot of neutral attacks from everyone
Na counters garnet pretty hard since no one really maintains rhythm like that
tiny comet
Nice comeback at the last match
wicked tusk
Nice comeback at the last match
Wanna try mirror garnet?
tiny comet
Later for sure but im going to bed for now
wicked tusk
Later for sure but im going to bed for now
ok, what's your region btw?
novel copper
I've been playing all this time not knowing we could do instant dash attacks 😭
Gonna have to work on that
wicked tusk
I've been playing all this time not knowing we could do instant dash attacks 😭
Is this one of Garnet Greatest Enjoyer?
how you get Ultra MVP badge btw?
novel copper
Is this one of Garnet Greatest Enjoyer?
how you get Ultra MVP badge btw?
It's a Nitro boost role
wicked tusk
Finally, my garnet had reached max lvl, that was really fun
crisp bronze
Surprised not alot of neutral attacks from everyone
Problem is that shield is not instant and range is mediocore at best
Its so hard to pull It of that most of the time its just not worth it
tiny comet
Problem is that shield is not instant and range is mediocore at best
Not the way i saw people whiffing sairs (cd)
tiny comet
Its so hard to pull It of that most of the time its just not worth it
You were probably the only one i saw using dair charged consistently 😂
crisp bronze
tbh i didnt felt endangered entire tournament
you can call me ego top
but i felt like i was just tier above anyone else
crisp bronze
i blundered 1 game vs obsta tho
like
the blunder was insane
xD
but i still was better there
tiny comet
ok, what's your region btw?
NA
tiny comet
but i still was better there
Idk was lookin shaky
crisp bronze
i 2 stocked him next round
crisp bronze
nah
i would not talk a lot
tiny comet
Naaaaaaaaaaa
wicked tusk
This is my tier list from Garnet's gameplay from beginning until reach max level
#off-topic message
tiny comet
Fair tierlist
New tip
If your opponent wanna camp on ledges let them till the camping pops up they’ll lose dodge meter
Then kill him
Killed a bugs that kept doing that
Also if someone is just spamming dodge just walk towards them wait for the dodge then attack, it sounds simple because it is but is also effective
crisp bronze
Also if someone is just spamming dodge just walk towards them wait for the dodge...
Mental warfare at It finest
frozen iris
Any one have an issue buying Garnet's Prestige taunt? It gives me an error every time.
onyx hazel
Any one have an issue buying Garnet's Prestige taunt? It gives me an error every...
I was able to buy it, maybe you should try restarting your game?
tiny comet
I bought it as soon as the game launched
tiny comet
I was able to buy it, maybe you should try restarting your game?
This is the way
north horizon
So whens wonder woman getting a nerf cause im lowkey kinda tired of her having all the armor in the world
wheat dirge
So whens wonder woman getting a nerf cause im lowkey kinda tired of her having a...
there a perk to hit threw it while she has armor
north horizon
I know but to resort to a perk build for a certain character is stupid in itsself, no character should be THAT busted
Recently i beat a 1k wonder woman cause of the armor break perk build
wheat dirge
I know but to resort to a perk build for a certain character is stupid in itssel...
You right it’s crazy but out counter that
But anyway GARNET THICCC
north horizon
But anyway GARNET THICCC
I know, her own hitbox is ridiculous, shes basically a smaller iron giant, just faster
frozen iris
This is the way
I've tried several times over the last week. With restarts. No luck. Will send a message to support. Must be my account. Thank you.
tiny comet
I've tried several times over the last week. With restarts. No luck. Will send a...
Best of luck 🫡
tiny comet
Extreme would be to uninstall reinstall
Game is rather small may work or may cause more problems
@frozen iris ^
crisp bronze
So whens wonder woman getting a nerf cause im lowkey kinda tired of her having a...
Tbf she is like top 3/4 character in the game
And as a garnet you have decent match up against her
north horizon
And as a garnet you have decent match up against her
Hell according to what she can do compared to garnet idk
idle hearth
im so mad that i never play against any Wonder womans
i cant really say anything on the Matchup other than that it doesnt feel that bad
BUT I SIMPLY NEVER PLAY AGAINST ONE
tiny comet
Punch em to the dirt
tiny comet
idle hearth
Guys i have a very important question
From where is the "True Kinda Love Garnet" Skin???
i have watched every season (including the Movie) of Steven Universe and i STILL DONT KNOW
i just know that this is the Name from a Song in the Movie
wheat dirge
From where is the "True Kinda Love Garnet" Skin???
That’s a event skin
idle hearth
oh
north horizon
So is marvin a terrible matchup for garnet as well cause jeez
tiny comet
Has to be a really good marvin ngl
Dance and shoulder should be enough
As long as you maintain being on the ground
Obvs other moves would be used but the bnb for that fight is shoulder and dance w a touch of claps
Marvin has some bad recovery easy to air juggle
But a good marvin can be nightmare like morty
But theyre alot bad marvins than good, so its rare
calm thistle
Kinda wished dance armor breaking buff lasted a bit longer
wicked tusk
Kinda wished dance armor breaking buff lasted a bit longer
Dance stack 5 = auto win
north horizon
But theyre alot bad marvins than good, so its rare
Ohh
novel copper
I did my usual punch against Bugs' safe and he parried the punch
I freaked out for a moment
still won tho 😎
bleak smelt
I want garnet’s signature perk back
novel copper
They gotta fix it since she could use it to just carry people into the blast zone and kill them instantly.
bleak smelt
Electric grove don’t do anything
novel copper
It helps build rhythm, but half the time you don't really need it. I'm just using the well-rounded perk.
novel copper
I just played the most ridiculous 3 stock on a Bugs spammer and I didn't record it
bleak smelt
As much as I hate bugs bunny spammers I would have loved to see that
novel copper
I can at least give the play-by-play
We were on the Cromulon stage and I ended up getting caught in his stupid nair loop, but I escaped before he could finish it with the bat.
I ran off to the other side and placed a marker behind the speaker, but Bugs destroyed it planning to hit me with the bat again. So I flew to the marker, grabbed Bugs and threw him off. It killed him at zero.
Naturally he was mad about that and tried to get me in the loop again, but I managed to side-air combo him into the blast zone for another early kill.
Then I finished the round with an IAD loop into a spike. Complete with a taunt after it was all over.
Ugh. I really should've recorded it, but it's not like I could have foreseen it happening.
bleak smelt
That was a lot
novel copper
Yeah, I'm gonna try and clip matches like that for the future
novel copper
Here's me bullying a Morty who stepped on our turf: https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/i8Fh4HNG8jMptXxY_/d1337xOdBCCG
People tend to get thrown off by my putting a marker on the other side of the map just to throw them back where we were
"What is she cooking"
bleak smelt
Here's me bullying a Morty who stepped on our turf: https://medal.tv/games/multi...
The wrath of garnet
woeful goblet
but i felt like i was just tier above anyone else
I just watched the tournament and wow your movement with garnet is insane congrats on the win
crisp bronze
I just watched the tournament and wow your movement with garnet is insane congra...
Thanks
Tbh its not that im good
Problem is people still playing like they in beta
tiny comet
How goes the punching?
crisp bronze
Same
Like
Of you look at tournament these people using 0 movement tools, spams nair like its good move, jab is the only thing that garnet main can use
tiny comet
Here's me bullying a Morty who stepped on our turf: https://medal.tv/games/multi...
into the dirt
tiny comet
As much as I hate bugs bunny spammers I would have loved to see that
Gotta add that parry so they think twice about spammin
tiny comet
Todays tip is :
If your struggling against iron giant just use the combo down ender its basically an infinite over and over. If you use sair on him add dair after first hit if he’s below you and up air/airups if he is above you in the the air. If he shoulder tackles back on stage nattack him into oblivion
Punnnnnnnnnch
rigid storm
Todays tip is :
**If your struggling against iron giant just use the combo dow...
so helpfulllll 🎀
true fiber
whenever I go up against a good morty I get destroyed especially on a map with no platforms
crisp bronze
whenever I go up against a good morty I get destroyed especially on a map with n...
tbh his only tool that is good is earth spike
play around it
block projectiles with nspecial
and just punch him to death
tiny comet
Also if someone is just spamming dodge just walk towards them wait for the dodge...
For morty
Use down attack and side special to close gaps, spacing is key but you gotta execute on them hits to follow up
Honestly tired of facing black adams and mortys once i get a lead i’ll time the clock out idgaf im not chasing you forever
true fiber
Gotchu
tiny comet
Black adam is a brusier and needs to be stopped with his shenanigans, ranting
novel copper
Honestly tired of facing black adams and mortys once i get a lead i’ll time the ...
Man, I want what you guys are getting, I keep fighting Jokers and Finns
tiny comet
Ladder bros
calm thistle
I really don’t like shaggy can just side b over garnets down attack 💔 hopefully the hitbox gets buffed
tiny comet
Force Whiff or dodge through and punch
As long as they keep his nair where its at i’ll be happy
Most of them shaggy players switch to bugs just to spam nair (even though they wont admit it)
stoic osprey
Garnet got nerfed bc you can't commit garnicide
reef ore
Man, I want what you guys are getting, I keep fighting Jokers and Finns
dawg i hate finn so much
they go for the same combo every time and if they cant land it they'll just use one or two moves that work 😭
wheat dirge
Man, I want what you guys are getting, I keep fighting Jokers and Finns
You should be fight me with garnet thicc nest
flint oar
Her summer outfit is in the store now, but it would have been nice to get it in Twitch drops.
calm thistle
So how do we feel about Finn? I find him to be quite tough
novel copper
So how do we feel about Finn? I find him to be quite tough
Very manageable IMO
tiny comet
Finn match was worse in the beta
Just gotta be less predictable with movement
If he ground charging just down attack he cant dodge out of it
dense pine
Back to nightly terrorism of Finn mains 💪
Dodging with your shoulder bash is helpful with finn ^
They dodge fast asf tho so it's always an ugly fight
tiny comet
Yeah and use up air attack over air up special
dense pine
Ayeeee
buoyant shuttle
finn is weird since he has basically one trick (stay on the ground and go for charged attacks into The Finn Combo™️) but that trick is good enough its tough to play around as garnet
one good thing is your dtilt shockwave basically prevents him from charging any moves but also his dash attack eating projectiles is an enormous pain
i just had a really good even win over a morty and of course i forgot to record it aaaa
crisp bronze
So how do we feel about Finn? I find him to be quite tough
Menageable
Its even match up
Mayby a bit in finn favor, bcs garnet is easy to combo
But its not the worst
Its not the arya/joker tier
tiny comet
Still havent faced a good arya
Probably need to play 1s more
All they do is down attack but i dodge with them and hit them
Such a weird design
If they dont have airwalker im not afraid
wicked tusk
anyone from asia or na down to garnet mirror match?
crisp bronze
Bro is scared of mighty eu
frozen iris
Bro is scared of mighty eu
Know where I can see any vods of you playing? Still trying to figure out how to move on this character.
calm thistle
Menageable
Its even match up
Mayby a bit in finn favor, bcs garnet is easy to ...
Not very helpful but thanks ig.
crisp bronze
Not very helpful but thanks ig.
Bruh
Gimme moment
crisp bronze
Know where I can see any vods of you playing? Still trying to figure out how to ...
We had garnet only tournament
And i was playing there
You can learn something from one there players too
crisp bronze
Not very helpful but thanks ig.
ok
tbh key to this match up is to bait or dodge the charged sword
its nearly his only opener
and he will abuse it over and over
use dlight to force him to stop it
or him to use charge with projectile block
wicked tusk
Bro is scared of mighty eu
i want tbh, but i can't because it would be laggy even i'll get desync with eu players ngl
so far playing with asia and na (still laggy but less than eu), the connection is really well for me
tiny comet
I’ll lag you, gurrrrrrl
tiny comet
Ngl
Starting to hate bugs players more than shaggy players
Just isnt a fun experience win or lose
calm thistle
Just imagine we could bubble heavy projectiles
Bugs safe really is one if not the best move in the game 😭
tiny comet
You can ignore it with a perk 1 i believe
Nair is just toxic
Parried it 10 times in 2s game
In one match, not a set 10 times in a game
tiny comet
Yeah with protective momentum you can just walk right through but have to stay grounded of course
But that nair man
rigid storm
In one match, not a set **10** times in a game
wowww 
north horizon
Heyoo
tiny comet
Sup
rigid storm
First game double bugs
shhddjdj the story of 2s yo 😭
frozen iris
Spent the day with Jason, so I would feel better about how bad I am with Garnet. I like him in 1s, but 2s feel impossible. Back home to Garnet.
novel copper
Still havent faced a good arya
I have, good Aryas are TOUGH. They have the spacing down pat, can barely hit them at all.
wicked tusk
I have, good Aryas are TOUGH. They have the spacing down pat, can barely hit the...
i hate when they're really good spacing from my attacks, i got punished few times because of it
really need more training about movement
junior steppe
Arya's gotta be right on top of you so you play her enough you're gonna get good at spacing out of necessity
novel copper
Arya's gotta be right on top of you so you play her enough you're gonna get good...
The aggro Aryas I can handle, it's the ones that dance around and psych you out that I gotta learn to deal with
It's like they know exactly what I'm gonna do 😰
buoyant shuttle
i definitely want to pick up jason once he gets a few hitbox tweaks, i feel like him and garnet are both in the same general category of "straightforward and read-heavy"
rigid storm
The aggro Aryas I can handle, it's the ones that dance around and psych you out ...
Thiss!!!!!!! 💔💔 garnet has so much end lag so people can pay super passive and idk what to doooo
crisp bronze
Know where I can see any vods of you playing? Still trying to figure out how to ...
I Hope the VOD helped ^^
crisp bronze
Thiss!!!!!!! 💔💔 garnet has so much end lag so people can pay super passive an...
Tbf its still my worst match up
But best thing It to bait that roll with attack and parry/dodge it
tiny comet
Punch em into the dirttt
rigid storm
Tbf its still my worst match up
But best thing It to bait that roll with attack...
do you dodge forward or back? i feel like garnet is best played on the ground for jab chains but that becomes predictable and then they start to jump over and go for spikes, what aerial move you like nair? missing it can be super punishable
rigid storm
Punch em into the dirttt
you say this to everything
frozen iris
I Hope the VOD helped ^^
It did. I think. Thank you.
north horizon
The aggro Aryas I can handle, it's the ones that dance around and psych you out ...
All that dash dancing back and forth is irritating
north horizon
Thiss!!!!!!! 💔💔 garnet has so much end lag so people can pay super passive an...
Same, it be hella annoying lol
rigid storm
Same, it be hella annoying lol
we should 1v1 but i play arya and you cry 😍
north horizon
we should 1v1 but i play arya and you cry 😍
Lol
crisp bronze
we should 1v1 but i play arya and you cry 😍
if you not good arya i would probably smash you to the ground xd
rigid storm
if you not good arya i would probably smash you to the ground xd
i’m not but geez 😭 so scary
north horizon
i’m not but geez 😭 so scary
Same
tiny comet
if you not good arya i would probably smash you to the ground xd
Same in the beta
😂
I just neutral attack till they adjust then just side special (cd) their adjustment
The better you get with following up with your projectiles the easier garnet will become
Garnet be feeling diagonal more than horizontal character, taz is the best horizontal character
crisp bronze
do you dodge forward or back? i feel like garnet is best played on the ground fo...
Tbh in this version of the game she became completly other character. She is not grounded jaggernaut like she was before
She is much better in the air than on ground
rigid storm
Tbh in this version of the game she became completly other character. She is not...
oh ok
tiny comet
Need them post game stats so i can block my teammated
formal geyser
ok so am i crazy
but what happened to garnets second unique perk cus its just not there for me
the one where it leaves the mark when your fist explodes
crisp bronze
but what happened to garnets second unique perk cus its just not there for me
Absolute garbage of an human beings used this perk to put mark outside blastzone and "Garnecide", killing your enamy with you
tiny comet
Right or like up special got nerfed so making rhythm useless
I remember playing in the beta, i dont recall people sliding under fist ever
But nerf garnet 2024
😏
calm thistle
How dare you
stoic osprey
garnet's the most attractive ||adult|| character
rigid storm
lavish berry
just hit 2000 wins with garnet
north horizon
just hit 2000 wins with garnet
Nice
tiny comet
just hit 2000 wins with garnet
LETS GOOOOO
wicked tusk
just hit 2000 wins with garnet
congrats, what's your region?
lavish berry
congrats, what's your region?
idk NA west probably
wicked tusk
idk NA west probably
down to garnet mirror match ft3?
we can skip it if you feel bothered by laggy
fleet birch
Who is garnets hardest matchups?
wicked tusk
Who is garnets hardest matchups?
TnJ, Shaggy, BG, and Morty imo so far
frozen iris
I personally would throw Aria in 1s, in there too.
fleet birch
TnJ, Shaggy, BG, and Morty imo so far
Thats literally a list of everyone ive gone against almost in a row
wicked tusk
Thats literally a list of everyone ive gone against almost in a row
personally i put Shaggy and BG below TnJ and Morty
even they can be annoying to go against, but i'm started get used to their playstyle, i won more often than i fought against TnJ and Morty
These two are the most hardest for me so far, still figure it out
fleet birch
personally i put Shaggy and BG below TnJ and Morty
even they can be annoying to ...
Just lost to a shaggy because he has no punishment
Got him to like 160 damage
frozen iris
BG is the perfect charcter to practice parries. They are so committal and always dodge back and side special at you.
fleet birch
and had a bunch of moves that should ring him out
Wait who is bg why cant i think of who that is
frozen iris
Banana Guard
fleet birch
Ohh yea i havent gone against one in like a week
Garnets star power is so inconsistent
Honestly would be mad if they changed it for a different power
frozen iris
I just use 5 percent. Take the consistent buff.
fleet birch
Yea
north horizon
Im dodging out of finns stupid air combo and getting hit lol come on man, why does he have that
fleet birch
Im dodging out of finns stupid air combo and getting hit lol come on man, why do...
I got zero to death by one the other day he needs a nerf
north horizon
I got zero to death by one the other day he needs a nerf
Hard
north horizon
I'm trying to dodge out of the air combo the whole time and just nope, he can walk around with his damn jab is so damn stupid
And this game suppose to be better than smash? Gtfo lol
Unbalanced bs is all the game is
fleet birch
Unbalanced bs is all the game is
No literally shaggys kick does 27 damage? and my 3 hit combo and gauntlets does like 20?
This is like my sixth shaggy in a row
seventh
frozen iris
I get it's frustating, but it just a puzzle to work out. Fin and Shaggy are very similar in that they are mostly grounded and horizontal. Shaggy especially doesn't like to be in the air, and his side special is very slow. Just try to force as much aerial fighting as possible.
north horizon
I get it's frustating, but it just a puzzle to work out. Fin and Shaggy are very...
And as for finn?
frozen iris
It does feel unfair, but just be patient. Or play some different characters. Try Jason for a bit and Garnet will feel amazing by comparison.
frozen iris
And as for finn?
Same thing. But I just use my side projectile and dlite to either force jump or dash, but don't commit to charging it. Just use it and see how he responds. Also check your DI. A lot of times you might catch yourself holding in, because you got caught mid move. Up and away is best default, but try down and away sometimes too.
I'm no expert, and I lose to my fair share, but my record is about 50/50 with them,
Funny enough, I find him easier to fight with Jason, lol.
north horizon
Same thing. But I just use my side projectile and dlite to either force jump or...
I just dont think he should walk around with a damn jab
north horizon
Same thing. But I just use my side projectile and dlite to either force jump or...
And di is next to useless when you're caught anyway, that combo is true and it shouldn't be at all is my thing
frozen iris
That's fair. I get that.
north horizon
Mhm
fleet birch
I found dodge into the charge punch is a decent move do u guys have any other stuff like that?
frozen iris
And di is next to useless when you're caught anyway, that combo is true and it s...
Not fully. It's very DI and percentage based. so he does have to to guess right, or you guess wrong. But it's still strong.
frozen iris
I found dodge into the charge punch is a decent move do u guys have any other st...
Are you asking for combos, neutral tools, or kill setups? Or all three. What do you like to use dodge into charge punch for?
fleet birch
Are you asking for combos, neutral tools, or kill setups? Or all three. What do ...
It just catches ppl off guard like if theyre tryna recover from edge u roll in and charge it and they go flying
frozen iris
It just catches ppl off guard like if theyre tryna recover from edge u roll in a...
Fair. Edgeguarding in this game is more of an art than a science because of wall stick. and enemy options at ledge.
fleet birch
Fair. Edgeguarding in this game is more of an art than a science because of wall...
And garnet has a ton of amazing options to counter it and do it
Theyre spamming moves at edge? T pose
U can tell idk what moves do what
Or u can shoot a gauntlet and push them away
frozen iris
It's okay. Up special is one of her best ledge options, and shoot gauntlet (side special) low at the ledge to force a dodge, or jump.
The one thing I miss is how you could get a 90 degree angle on the gauntlets in the beta, so you could send them straight down on someone at the ledge.
fleet birch
The one thing I miss is how you could get a 90 degree angle on the gauntlets in ...
I just cant ring ppl out
Like wdym youre at 200 dmg and that up spike didnt kill you
frozen iris
I find that Garnet gets most of her ringouts in the air. Or finishing jab with projectile at high percents. Something I look for is side special (shoulder charge), into side air or up air. You can also do jab into up special (clap) to kill most characters around 120.
fleet birch
I find that Garnet gets most of her ringouts in the air. Or finishing jab with p...
And her air ringouts arent the best
Not weak thats for sure
But just like meh
not like when bugs is ringing u out at 50
bring back missing tbh
Like what is the purpose of having a moveset where everything has an aoe vacuum or multiple hits
Also why do characters like shaggy and jason have pretty good charge moves that will at least let them do one hit for like 27 damage and garnet dances for seemingly no buff?
Like what do you mean jason teleports and I go flying out of the map i just hit a 7 hit combo at the top of the map and he was at 120 and didnt die
buoyant shuttle
garnet dance is the greatest psychological weapon in the game and i stand by that