Arya Stark

[near oak]

i cant figure out how to have the enemy consistently end up on the same side of upB

[gleaming zenith]

is there a arya discord server

[digital coral]

there is

[gleaming zenith]

where can i join

[digital coral]

ill send u the link

[lilac gale]

@digital coral me too, please

[digital coral]

sent it

[old eagle]

slide

[turbid mauve]

am i the only one that feels like arya is a lot worse than in the beta? she was and still kinda is my main but i get beat out in terms of speed and range by almost every character it feels like and the dagger dash is really inconsistent

[jovial delta]

100% but she still go sauce

[agile oxide]

I think different might be the way to put it rather than worse

[jovial delta]

her up attack and down attack got some nice changes at least

[digital coral]

no shes overall worse because although you play her differently, shes still inconsistent

[turbid mauve]

Maybe I'm bugging but she feels slow for an assassin and lacks proper kill power compared to Harley and Finn

[digital coral]

i didnt actually know finn was an assassin 😭

but yes she does struggle to kill

[turbid mauve]

Arya, Finn, Harley, Marvin, and Stripe are all assassins (though I think Marvin could be changed to mage tbh)

[digital coral]

MARVIN'S AN ASSASSIN??

all he does is zone 😭

[turbid mauve]

lol right i can't remember if it was VoiD or another streamer but they tried running Marvin and I think Tom and Jerry to be annoying with projectiles but just ended up losing track of their own projectiles bc there was so much going on

[sour juniper]

side tilt -> down air

thats true

but is neutral special -> side tilt -> down air true?

it doesnt feel consistent

[tulip moat]

Am I buggin or is that's flammable doc really good on arya

Also, does anyone know how much damage the backstab passive does

[digital coral]

Well neutral special - side attack is true with a dodge roll so

Perhaps try that

[sour juniper]

Ok

[viral meadow]

does aryas beige shirt skin still exist i cant find it

[near oak]

ik im late but can i also get a link

[storm thistle]

I'm struggling with di read after upb. What do you guys look for to see where they'll end up? Is it di, or where opponent is in relation to you when you do upb?

[near oak]

i know a couple of combos but it feels like everyone has more range than arya so it's pretty much impossible to get a solid hit in

[viral meadow]

youve just gotta force yourself in really, a good dodge or spacing does wonders

[visual wharf]

Practice mixing up your approach and whiff punishes. I normally don't try looking for the hit, I wait for then to screw up and punish them

[near oak]

yea but whenever they whiff Im not usually in a position to do anything about it either

[visual wharf]

There's just times like that

Also down attack is a good way to get in against opponents who whiff from afar

[near oak]

how do you close distance like that without them just doing an up attack

[visual wharf]

Ground down has I frames

[near oak]

oh my dumbass thought of down air for some reason

yea ground down makes sense

[visual wharf]

At low percents you can dodge cancel it into side attack to start combos

[near oak]

i can get hits with that and dash attack but dash attack is impossible to follow up on i feel

[viral meadow]

if dash attack sends them off the edge you can play offstage

[visual wharf]

It's not meant to be followed up on, it's better to use dash attack to catch landings and close the gap quickly

[near oak]

also ive been having trouble using her charged side special bc they can always just dodge it

like what is the point of the dagger tp if they can just get out

except as part of a combo thats already happening

[visual wharf]

Dagger does suck

I use it to gain stage pressure, if they're close enough to it you can still tp to it and start a combo without it being on them, you just won't have the tp I frames

[near oak]

i cant even throw it usually without them just running up and hitting me for free, doesnt matter how far they are

one of my other issues is just being in the air in general while the opponent is on the ground

bc they just follow my direction ready to up attack (which pretty much always overrides arya's down air)

so i have no choice but to spam a bunch of dodges

[visual wharf]

Land with Nair instead, it's a good multihit move that puts something between Arya and the opponent, it's also not a bad idea to just retreat to ledge

Down air is more meant to extend combos from Jab and up b

[viral meadow]

where do you get the waterdancer skin from? i want it back

[visual wharf]

Or for good air dodge reads

[visual wharf]

I still have mine

[viral meadow]

i lost mine and 100% had it

[visual wharf]

I lost my toon squad bugs skin

[viral meadow]

wb scam

[visual wharf]

The memories of spiking innocent shaggy playes wearing that skin

Gone

[viral meadow]

its not even in the shop is what's tilting me, like i cant get it back

[visual wharf]

I dislike the new shop

I wish I could just buy the skins I want

[viral meadow]

does it cycle or something?

[visual wharf]

Daily yes, there is also bundles for characters but none of them are the ones I like

[viral meadow]

idk id be happy to just have waterdancer anything else is just w/e

i only play arya anyway

[near oak]

its in the shop for me but only as part of a bundle

[visual wharf]

They should add gifting so I can gift my bf stuff

[near oak]

yall know any good combos that are actually true?

[stiff olive]

throw dagger -> jab -> steal face -> dash attack -> side special towards opposite side opponent is going -> up special -> air jab

although hard to land before the knife dispawns

[near oak]

😭 the knife is so situational i wish they would make it better

[digital coral]

its in teh shop rn

i think

wait did they get rid of it 💀

no its still there

[viral meadow]

its not there for me 😦

[digital coral]

look for the waterdancer bundle

[viral meadow]

not there for me ye, might be different for everyone?

[digital coral]

thats interesting

[latent marlin]

do you guys think i should get harley or arya next?

[viral meadow]

arya is really fun

[visual wharf]

You should know the answer to that coming to the Arya channel…
Harley ofc

[latent marlin]

thats why i also asked in the harley channel

[visual wharf]

Jab - face steal - jab - up b

Sometimes they’ll end up too far for the sec jab to connect, dodge cancel forward after the face steal and jab again

Depending on the character you can jump cancel the second jab into Down air at mid to late % to start an up b kill confirm

[visual wharf]

Serious answer, Arya has a higher skill floor than Harley, so it depends if you’re looking for a fun casual character like Harley, or a more intermediate character like Arya

Arya could probably teach you how to play slower better since she isn’t the type that gets rewarded for mindless gameplay

[rough ridge]

join the arya club 🔥

[manic eagle]

actually sad how weak arya is compared to other characters, hope they buff her vertical knockpack, or just damage in general

[rough ridge]

i just wish up air would work

that interaction stung the most

[digital coral]

just make arya up air work and istg she'd be so much better 😭

[whole willow]

arya is op unironically

with gravity cancel

i jab at anything over 40 and its a kill if i have at least half a dodge meter

shes not weak

[jovial delta]

anyone know if the instant air attack tech is useful on arya?

ive been cookin on superman with it

[digital coral]

shhh dont tell them

she needs to get buffed

[whole willow]

my bad dont want her nerfed

[digital coral]

im enjoying her so much more than ww and even harley

i just need to get good with her

[whole willow]

literally on arya rn i have a 90% winrate on 1s and only lose rarely to some light characters

shes so busted 😭

[digital coral]

SHES SO SICK BRUH OH MY GOD

I JUST LADDERED A JASON WITH GC 3 TIMES

WITH MY ENTIRE DODGE METER

AND HE TRIED EDGEGUARDIGN ME LAST STOCK AND I TELEPORTED GCD AND KILLED HIM

nah

shes my main

[rough ridge]

anyone know how to play around steven

ive been winning but too close for comfort

i feel like i could be doing something better just difficult playing around his shield and the beam that cant be destroyed and can kill me mad early

[jovial delta]

whats gc

[carmine prism]

arya ladder potential is just op

even more with large hitboxs characters

[digital coral]

gravity cancel, brawlhalla term, referring to the airwalker perk

i just laddered a bg and he jumped off 😭

[jovial delta]

o shi is that perk essential

idk how to use that shi

[digital coral]

it is.

its actually so massive

[jovial delta]

imma experiment with it

[digital coral]

hold on

[turbid mauve]

I'm starting to realize arya feels like she depends on face steal moves for kill confirms far more than before

not necessary obv but makes securing a kill a lot easier at lower damage

[silent mantle]

TTVBraa 2.3k wins scared to rematch

[manic eagle]

I love arya

[dry relic]

anyone saying arya is bad doesnt know how to play arya

with gc's she has a true 0 to death

ive already done it many times in 1v1s

[hard fiber]

is it just jab -> upb -> gc -> jab -> upb -> upair

?

[dry relic]

pretty much

but many things flow into it

or into parts of it

[manic eagle]

yeah first time I tried the airwalker perk didn't know how to use it, but I'm getting the hang of it

[dry relic]

it turns arya from being decent to being kinda busted

against larger characters 1v1's become free

[sour juniper]

arya isnt good, im just saying

her 0 to death is unintended and WILL get fixed

her combos are really difficult and most of them do 2 standardized banana guard hits of damage

[dry relic]

i suppose we will see when ranked drops

too many bots on casual 1v1s rn

recent games are all wins

[untold spade]

🤣

[haughty knot]

hes op man

[haughty knot]

wait what gc

that platform thing?

[sour juniper]

yeah

[haughty knot]

interesting

i saw it and i realized it was the only perk that did something interesting

but i didnt realize it actually had a use

[dry relic]

its def worth looking at

regardless of what character you play

[sour juniper]

its kinda wild but ive been staying off of it because skill degradation

if i do it then ill start getting worse

[dry relic]

what

[untold spade]

does it work on assassins?

[visual wharf]

I just had a good run with Arya in a scrim tournament, she can work

[digital coral]

is jab dair a tight input?

[visual wharf]

Yes

Against the bigger characters for sure

But practice makes perfect

[sour juniper]

jab dair is awkward but you can just input buffer so dw

[dry relic]

i find it inconsistent at low damage

• small character

[visual wharf]

That's because the hitstun isn't as long at low % than high %

[fierce granite]

they fortniteified the menu so bad

[whole willow]

how do u think the devs are going to balance the gc for arya 😭

theres no way this is fair

gg i win cus u got hit by a jab or up b at anything over 40%

[visual wharf]

If they di out then I’m sure they are fine

It’s not broken because it requires us to give up air parry and uses half of our stamina

In other words we sacrifice one of our best tools in disadvantage to gain a more consistent combo tree

[whole willow]

but its true on a lot of characters, id argue thats pretty broken

im talking about the full double gc combo not just single platform

if i hit a jab and theyre close enough its a 0 to death true combo pretty much

[jovial delta]

ok forward attack up special gc up attack is hella reliable for getting kills

[manic eagle]

gonna try it out in lab, thanks

[jovial delta]

even jus up special gc up attack is reliable

[manic eagle]

yeah the gc in general just makes arya more reliable, been launching my oppponents into space the last few games

[jovial delta]

its a game changer fs

arya lowkey buns w/o it

or at least way less fun

[manic eagle]

this is how little attention is put into arya, https://streamable.com/cvq2mr (apologies for bad audio)

actually one of the worst animations ive seen in this game

and she has barely any cosmetics compared to other characters

[jovial delta]

Nah i love that emote

Its gotta be one of the most disrespectful emotes in the game

We need more arya skins tho

[manic eagle]

yeah itd be a really good emote

if her mouth wasnt hinged open the whole time

[digital coral]

I'm saying, it's so consistent

[digital coral]

But yes if they di out the combo just doesnt work period

So it's fine

[crystal dune]

should i pick up arya or gizmo? been leaning more towards arya but im not sure

[untold spade]

Gizmo got some moves

But you're in the arya channel soooooo yea... arya

[ancient crown]

https://youtu.be/Us8KyX8uFCc?si=dASLwWIytjqUIlK-

[digital coral]

doing this rn.

nevermind not going to

[ancient crown]

Hehe

[near cape]

Any tips for a new Arya main

[digital coral]

USE AIRWALKER PERK

[tulip moat]

I feel like it'll get removed which is why I don't wanna use it

[near cape]

@digital coral why

[digital coral]

it makes her combos alot more consistent

[elfin slate]

hello arya nation how good is she in current build

[dry relic]

SHE FEELS GOOD

[jovial delta]

She hella good. I jus be thinking about arya combos the whole time im at work😭

[digital coral]

i love her

but like i have mixed feelings

her combo game with airwalker and face steal allow for so much freedom and creativity

but it doesnt change the fact that di and move drops are the bane of her existence

if you hold out her airwalker 0td just doesnt work

up b is unreliable at times

she cant really kill super early unless you go for a hard read with neutral attack

so i think shes good, not amazing, definitely has major flaws, but she feels great to play when stuff gets going

[cinder anvil]

guys how i do this instant air down from ground

[sour juniper]

0td shoudn't exist anyway, and you can still kill them if they hold out

i hope they nerf gc so that you can only use it once before having to touch the ground

[digital coral]

you hold diagonally upward, press roll and an attack in any direction

[digital coral]

or they could simply give it a bigger cooldown instead of allowing you to use it in such succession

[sour juniper]

that works too, but managing cooldowns kinda throws off the flow of combat imo, i dont want to have to micromanage every little thing and im sure it would put off at least some people

[jovial delta]

i love using harleys bat against her

[viral meadow]

Idk micromanaging just makes them more rewarding imho

[sage zephyr]

i love stealing harleys bat with her 😭

[carmine prism]

how can i do this instant air down atack?

nevermind, already discovered

good combo btw

[digital coral]

neutral feels so hard

cuz i need to do jab

but i get dash attack

and it drops half the time

[ancient crown]

Hate this

There should be an option to manually use dash attacks

[tulip moat]

It actually wouldn't be that big of a problem if it didn't drop ALL THE TIME

[shy mist]

I really hate dash attacka

They shouldn't have added dash attacks without dashing

Walking to my opponent and now im not doing the jab combo

Im spinning

[whole willow]

you can buffer dash attacks by double clicking a direction

they should make a toggle where u only dash attack from that or smth

or just make a separate keybind but thats not gonna be fair for controller players

[whole willow]

i think this is the most realistic take, if ure gonna copy from brawl u might as well go all the way

[shy mist]

what is gc

[digital coral]

gc is a brawlhalla term meaning gravity cancel, its the mechanic airwalker was based on

so when people say gc, they mean airwalk

[shy mist]

ohhhh yeah airwalker is definetly only gonna gain more traction as more people learn to use it

i still like the classic gameplay feel so i do hope gc doesnt ever get too dominant

[digital coral]

how do you pilot her without it?

she feels so underwhelming

[rough ridge]

anyone have a list of face steal moves

[digital coral]

theres a yt vid

[shy mist]

i do not care for the random face steal moves

[digital coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcs71QtcFJQ&ab_channel=Onestep

[rough ridge]

i dont see how it wouldnt get removed eventually

[digital coral]

video with all of them

[rough ridge]

its like too good on some characters

[shy mist]

i dont like the randomness

[digital coral]

you can find out which are ass and which ones arent and use them

[digital coral]

i only know 3 of them

[shy mist]

i really struggle with getting faces

[digital coral]

arya harley joker

[shy mist]

do you grab face in jab

[digital coral]

who else can utilize airwalker well

[digital coral]

yes its jab face steal roll jab up b b

thats the bnb

[shy mist]

i really quite like that banana guard gives you side b

use their cheese against them

[rough ridge]

Lebron

[shy mist]

lebron would never use airwalker thats against nba guidelines

[rough ridge]

i just dont like the whole crutch thing with the airwalker perk

[shy mist]

yeah i dont like relying on airwalker

[rough ridge]

i'd rather arya actually be good on her on

own

or any character really

[shy mist]

the thinking that a character is not bad bc you can use a perk could prove problematic eventually

especially with airwalker

jason is apparently pretty good with airwalker sometimes

dont mean he aint butt

[digital coral]

yk yea you have a point

i should learn how to play her without it

[tulip moat]

I feel like it's gonna get removed because it changes the game too much

[rough ridge]

thanks for this btw

[fierce tree]

Hey I've been working with airwalk a while and sometimes it feels like people are hit way too far horizontally for me to hit with the airwalk even near 0%. Can DI really screw with it or is it something else? I wanna say I'm pretty tight with the timing that this point

after jab into up special

[visual wharf]

Yeah DI out kind kills it, but atp just go for the up b into side air

Kill them for that

[fierce tree]

ah okie that's good to know, thanks 😄

[visual wharf]

Bp

Np*

[whole willow]

you have to jab relatively close to hit the airwalker jab, if not then u can only sair or nair to follow up

as in jab close, and then up b to be close enough for follow up airwalker jab

[whole willow]

yah i agree, but its not like arya is complete ass without airwalker

[fierce tree]

ah okay that's good to know. And I'm super happy with her normally, Airwalker just seems kinda fun to mess around with

[rough ridge]

yea ik she's pretty good

[slender raptor]

What’s the point of the pie when ayra gets a knockout?

[ancient crown]

It's just there to slow the opponent down but heals them in return

Pretty useless

[manic eagle]

praying for more arya cosmetics

[visual wharf]

We have that summer one coming soon I hope

[manic eagle]

Never heard of a summer skin, gonna look more into it, Thanks.

Looks really cool, guess I'm gonna have to save up some gleamium till it releases

[sick zephyr]

any good combo follow ups video?

[viral meadow]

is it just me or is our kill potential awful?

[whole willow]

jab -> upb -> semi charged sair is a really reliable kill option

[hard fiber]

sair is really good in itself

I get most of my kills with sair

[torn parrot]

When is nair useful

[whole willow]

agreed

[whole willow]

nair is good to initiate, also can be used to follow through from up b

[torn parrot]

Really? I'll have to try that

[viral meadow]

I feel like sair needs high percents to kill, I usually rely on it and laddering with upair

[whole willow]

yeah its not that crazy to kill early, usually during ladder yeah

neutral ground fully charged can pretty consistenly kill anything over 100% as well

[digital coral]

tbh im having more fun playing arya without airwalker

its actually helping me to get good at her

[torn parrot]

What do y'all think is the best face steal? I mean it has to be bugs up air right?

[rough ridge]

yea that move is insane

idk how that hitbox is allowed

[tulip moat]

Absolutely
It's kills SO EARLY

[torn parrot]

And it's GIGA satisfying too

[ancient crown]

Jason, it's combo potential are too saucy

[tulip moat]

The summer arya skin looks sick

Definitely buying that

[manic eagle]

REAL

also is there an arya discord?

[tulip moat]

Dms

[manic eagle]

alright

[fierce tree]

Hmu with it too if you get a chance 😁

[visual wharf]

I think that 10% reduced hit stun is gonna make Arya's Jab face steal Jab bad

Yippeee

Or just even tighter than before

[crystal gate]

I love it how this thread is completely stacked with questions.. i have yet to run into an arya player

[wraith ether]

So I bought Arya last week and I started playing with her and I’m HOOKED 😭

[digital coral]

Yea she's insanely fun when she works

Definitely the coolest character in the game

[digital coral]

I've been able to get it pretty consistently

[viral meadow]

she's really cool i wish the uair after upb was a confirm though ive missed out on sm kills because it didnt combo

[digital coral]

its di dependent

tbh u just gotta guess if they di out or not

[lament crater]

lowk the dash attk change made arya 10x better

it made dash attack into dlight true at 0

it opened up new combo route

[viral meadow]

i dont really care for dash attack tbh

[digital coral]

bro dash atk -> datk at 0 is like

the most irrelevant thing ever

at best if you misinput at low percents you can make up for it

what they should fix is the consistency issues. i wouldnt mind getting dash attack if it didnt drop half the time.

[manic eagle]

irs so satisfying....

[fair frigate]

So I played Arya a bunch and learned combos for her in beta, but since the full release I haven't really studied how to play her seriously, just kind of mindlessly played with her.

What are the combos everyone is practicing nowadays and what seems to work consistently?

[viral meadow]

up b into uair or upb into side air is pretty consistent

[vocal ingot]

is anyone able to explain how arya's neutral b works in like as much detail as possible? idk how to use it or what it does after stealing someones face/how to control what it does after stealing someones face

[digital coral]

So neutral b face steals your opponent's abilities. Each character has one ability stolen from their grounded kit and one in the air. It's not a universal case for every character; some are busted and some are useless.

In most cases the aerial one is used as it tends to be more applicable in combos.

The main combo is jab -> face steal -> jab -> up b -> neutral b (face steal ability)

Depending on the character you can combo their grounded face steal from jab as well.

It's also possible to face steal in the air with the combo jab -> up b -> face steal but it's not as used. If your opponent DIs bad then you could also just kill them off that combo.

As for every move you steal, this video does a good job at explaining it: https://youtu.be/NASNrErrRys?si=xps1u9VrSzKG3uhZ

Hope this helped!

[viral meadow]

I feel like allot of characters it's just better to go jab nspecial jab upb upair or sair some face steals are just awful

I also like gambling on laddering actually working though which just isn't as easy as the beta

Or I'm awful since I haven't played since before the beta ended either or

[vocal ingot]

ah so it is just one move on the ground and one move in the air, ok

i was wondering if it could be controlled cause (for context I'm a reindog main) i've seen arya's use my down b fireball and thought she was able to pick haha

currently playing more arya cause nerfed reindog feels icky

[bold crescent]

I'm wanting to get better with her, tips?

[lament crater]

you should try to ring out the other player when your in a match

[violet fractal]

What perks do you use?

[violet fractal]

Where

[violet fractal]

For Arya

[tulip moat]

Snowball effect, collateral damage and pugilist/ 2 fast 2 dodge if it's an armor character

[viral meadow]

i feel like you gotta play so slow with arya against allot of the cast since they outrange her, wish we had more options to get in

[glossy moss]

Where?

[visual wharf]

Theu should make Nair a better combo starter

[violet fractal]

I’m assuming trophy for the signature?

[tulip moat]

Yea

[lament crater]

when will dash attack actually be consistent

[digital coral]

TRUE

[digital coral]

tbh i prefer 5%

sometimes getting face steal is more beneficial than starting out with it

esp since the bnb is kinda ruined

istg dash attack feels so good to use when it fully connects.

[violet fractal]

Oh interesting

[undone carbon]

Is there any way to make up special more consistent? Sometimes even with the right DI read the followup doesn’t connect

[hard fiber]

nope

or not that i know of

[atomic quiver]

One thing I try do is jump and foward air

Just to get that extra height

Or up air

[undone carbon]

I’ll give that a try thanks

[atomic quiver]

But only like when they start di ing away

Otherwise it won't work at all

[simple herald]

Does somebody have some general 1v1 tips for me? Whenever my opponent starts to hit me once it seems that I can't hit him back until I already got like 40+ damage
Also something i'd like to ask, since last patch I cant seem to follow up my up specials that good anymore, am I just bad or is this normal?

[agile oxide]

As a pretty general tip just try using dash jump to create some distance if you struggle after getting hit

You can do it while in the air too

If you mean once you’re in a combo di and finding out the right times to dodge is a good idea too

[digital coral]

It happens. footsies and patience is often important in this game, at least with Arya. Sometimes you might just take a bunch of damage at round start but it's not the end of the world.

Utilize movement; dodge jumping for extra boosts, dash dancing etc. It can help with baiting out whiffs from your opponent. Try to space so when they whiff, you can punish with jab. Also dash attack is a great quick punish tool at the right spacing (when it doesn't drop).

Using nair and charged sair with timing variations are also really good.

As for up special it's just you gotta read the DI. Nothing else to it really. You can use situational awareness to your advantage though. Like if you hit jab up b near ledge there's a higher chance your opponent's gonna DI in so you up air. The opposite might be true.

You just gotta feel out your opponent and attempt to read them

[tacit sierra]

How do I approach

[shy mist]

Press either "A" or "D"

[torpid lintel]

I played as Arya for the first time since Beta, and I thought I was crazy. I know I'm not that good at this game but I remember her being much stronger than this.

[shy mist]

Yeah pfg only likes wonder woman as the swordie

Everyone else needs to work harder

[digital coral]

she got nerfed because she was broken

now shes fair

[covert ice]

i wish he face steal could stun and have 5 charges

now it’s kinda trashy imo

[violet fractal]

I wish it was easier to face steal

[ancient crown]

It's extremely easy now, just jab into face steal

The jab part is much more difficult though

[visual wharf]

Real

They should make Nair combo into Jab so we can hit it consistently

[ancient crown]

Yes

Give her more starters please

I wanna cook

[visual wharf]

What if we could cancel the second hit of dash attack, that would be a good change too

Maybe a bit too much but it's still another way to start combos

[ancient crown]

That would be too op

Her dash attack is so inconsistent

Man the combo's I could do with that change would be crazy

You could potentially have a loop

[visual wharf]

I know face steal can go into a buffered dash attack

On di in ofc, di out that drops

[ancient crown]

Yeah and making it cancelable doesn't sound good

For others hehe

Arya needs buffs so who cares heh

[visual wharf]

Let be broken for a couple weeks please

[violet fractal]

What jab? Neutral?

[visual wharf]

Side

We were speaking in smash terms

[violet fractal]

jab is usually neutral tho no

I haven’t played smash in forever 😭

So s-tilt?

[visual wharf]

Yes

[violet fractal]

Got it lol

[digital coral]

Ftilt and jab are interchangeable since side attack is the equivalent of jab in this game

It drives me nuts tho cuz idk what to call neutral attack

[tulip seal]

hey gamers anybody have some basic advice?

moving over from harley and looking for perks/basic combo strings

[hard fiber]

why are you moving over from Harley

[tulip seal]

I just have more fun with arya

I might still play harley in 2s but i find arya super fun in 1s especially

also im in the ruby waiting room (forcing myself to keep playing so I can have fun on ruby)

[visual wharf]

Heeeeey

[tulip seal]

nvm i figured out platform combos this character is so silly

[tulip seal]

this character is so fun what the heck

https://streamable.com/8qqs2b

i feel like I just robbed them of the win :3

this is the twitter clip character lol

[tulip seal]

aw heavies have pretty tight timing for jab > dair ;-;

[shy mist]

give face steal a linger effect like bugs has with kiss

[neon elk]

What perks would you guys recommend for both 1v1 and 2v2s?

[west vigil]

What's the best full perk set rn

[old eagle]

the 5 percent dmg and defense perk, snowball, airwalker, pugilist

thats what i run atleast

[sour juniper]

For 2v2 I run 'Betrayal' as my signature because enraged is really solid and knifing onto your teammate is pretty good for support, 'That's flammable doc' since my duo plays bugs and it mostly just lets us stack up damage in the background (I would recommend protective momentum if your duo doesn't use projectiles as much), 'Airwalker' is great on Arya because it gives her combos more personalisation (the 0-death everyone talks about isn't true btw), and 'Pugilist' is mostly just a filler perk since it just buffs damage and there aren't really any better options.

[neon elk]

Thank u!

[sour juniper]

yw, if you have any questions about arya then dm me, I promise that I have your answer, I've played her for a fair while now

[vast fog]

How do I begin to learn this character?

[sour juniper]

Go through her move list in training (set bot to 'dodge after hitstun'). Just take it one move at a time and see if you can get attacks to combo together. She's 100% combo reliant so experimenting like this is definitely the fastest way to get the hang of her.

The main parts of her kit are also similar to shaggy or wonder woman if you know any of their moves

[neon elk]

Tysm! She was my main in beta but I haven’t really touched her since. Now I’ve been playing T&J but want to dive back into maining Arya!

[digital coral]

i still havent learnt how to jab dair.

ive just been doing jab up b but jab dair looks so flashy i wanna learn it

[whole willow]

airwalker is true on some characters

like superman is almost guaranteed true from any position

shaggy and ww is true but ur initial jab needs to be close

id imagine iron giant would be the same as superman

but yeah some characters its really hard to even get a hit with ur first platform like harley and u just have to rely on sair or upair

[sour juniper]

i mean technically its true on all characters

i havent done too much testing with it, but you can probably catch their di

its just kind of hard to do

@whole willow i know you play a lot of arya, have you done much testing with it? i haven't tried punishing di, but i reckon it's possible, that would make it true 0-death against basically every fighter

[sour juniper]

theres a thing called input buffers (sorry if you already know what it is), basically if you do an attack while your character is already doing something, it'll store that input and do it the moment its able to. to land jab->dair, you just need to press jump and dair while you're mid-jab, then it'll come out instantly

[digital coral]

it definitely is possible. and you can catch their di. sometimes though if they di hard out, the first gc jab up b may just not connect. but its true on everyone.

after the final up b you have to guess if theyre DI-ing away or not though to do sair instead. at some heights it still kills.

[digital coral]

i get it

[fair frigate]

No news is good news right?

[whole willow]

yeah, other than the airwalker nerf but that was bound to come considering how unfair it was lmao

[digital coral]

THEY NERFED AIRWALKER NOOOOOOOOOOOO

well its fine

[jovial delta]

Noooooooooooo

Shes prolly still gonna be really good but noooooooooooo

[visual wharf]

It's still good against someone who chooses to di in after up special or after the Jab down air combo, just can't ladder with it anymore

[glossy moss]

Does anyone else feel rlly bad after update?? None of my combos are connecting

[hard fiber]

what combos are you doing

[blissful mist]

Arya gamers

[manic eagle]

proffesional arya games

[blissful mist]

Anyways, any tips for juggling? I can proficiently low% iron giant, but that hardly counts since his hitbox is half the map

[digital coral]

read tf out of your opponent

if you dont have airwalker your only solution is dodge reading, and reading their di off of up b

[winged rain]

I wish they’d make better skins for Arya :/

[blissful mist]

same, the sweater is kinda cute, but i'd still prefer something more... GOT

[winged rain]

True

I have the sweater one it felt like the only one worth picking up

[winged rain]

You down to run some dittos? I’m still sorta new to the game so going against Arya players would help

[blissful mist]

yeah sure, i'm not the most competent arya player myself, but i'm down

[winged rain]

I’m not either lmao my tag is “tempo120”

[blissful mist]

alr, just gimme a sec, i'm swapping out my perks

[winged rain]

Sounds good

Harley is so hard to go against for me as Arya

Sometimes at least

[blissful mist]

invite sent

i don't have too much trouble with harely, my kryptonite is wonder woman

@winged rain you get my game invite?

[winged rain]

I’m trying to figure how to accept it 💀

[blissful mist]

lmao, send one to me

[winged rain]

I tried but it says you’re offline

[blissful mist]

huh, odd

1 sec i'll try relaunching the game

[winged rain]

Alright we’ll try inviting me again and I’ll use my mouse to tap it I was trying to get it with my controller lmao

There it goes

[blissful mist]

alr sweet

[winged rain]

gg

[blissful mist]

ok that second death was a skill issue on my part lol

gg

[winged rain]

We all SD sometimes lmao

I keep forgetting you’re gonna do some of the same things as me 😭

[blissful mist]

i have this mental idea that aryas side B is gonna go further than it actually does so i keep messing it up lol

[winged rain]

I do that too

Damn I was flying at the end lmao

[blissful mist]

Forgot to turn😭

[winged rain]

Alright well gg I’m done playing thanks for playing though

[winged rain]

LMAO yeah I saw that

You’re pretty good though! I’ll have to copy that jab side special

[blissful mist]

alr ggs, even if suck ass at this game it was fun. I really need how to use that spinning blade attack haha

[winged rain]

Just always assume it won’t go far

I mostly use it for getting ledge control again

[blissful mist]

no i don't mean the side B (although i do also need to get better at that lol) i mean the downward one

[winged rain]

Oh where she dodges?

[blissful mist]

no, i mean the Knife Flourish, i didn't use it during our game because i still don't know how lol

had to google the name rq

[winged rain]

Ohh Nair

I was trying to figure what you’re talking about

It’s a good juggle tool imo

[scarlet burrow]

quick poll for this character discord

whats your favorite flavor crayon

fkn children

[winged rain]

?

you good? Lmao

clearly someone lost to an Arya player lmao

[blissful mist]

Black thanks for asking

Oh, and L+Ratio+Juggled+low % vertical K.O

[storm thistle]

Purple

What the heck do you guys do against joker? It's the one matchup I still haven't figured out. WW is winnable, but joker, goddamn. I keep losing, as soon as they know what they're doing

Any tips?

[blissful mist]

Not running face first into the buzzer is half the battle

[blissful mist]

Man, I need an old wise Sensei in the mountains who happens to also be really good at playing Arya

[storm thistle]

Lets become the senseis. You and me. I believe

Ill start looking for mountains. Can you find some robes?

[blissful mist]

I've got the mountain and can probably get robes, but I lack the being really good part

[glossy moss]

mainly juggle ones

[hard fiber]

mhm

[untold spade]

Who's your favorite partner??

I like IG or harley

[vale imp]

I don’t think Arya is bad in this game a lot of ppl seem convinced that she is though

[violet fractal]

is there an arya discord?

[tardy heath]

She's different from the old arya

Face steal can be an actual part of her gameplan now

Some of the moves she gets can be comboed into from up b like bugs bat

[hard fiber]

yes

[violet fractal]

can you send it to me?

[hard fiber]

dms

[winged rain]

I get mixed signals from people about her

But I think she has a lot of un tap potential people don’t notice

[visual wharf]

To me her match ups are either really good for her or really bad

[winged rain]

Like against Batman

[visual wharf]

Flark Batman

I go Jake if I KNOW Batman is gonna be played

[blissful mist]

Yoo,invite me to the promised land

[west vigil]

Can someone tell me some key combos with Arya? As well as the combo that utilizes the air walker perk ty

[silk dust]

The air walker is unnecessary

Just replace it for Last Stand

Combos are always dependent on matchup

[west vigil]

I thought last stand was sorta useless? That's what I heard since ur pretty much dead at 100+ anyway

[silk dust]

Back in beta yeah

But if ur going against light characters IT'S LIFE CHANGING

[west vigil]

What about collateral damage as a perk?

That's what I was running before

[silk dust]

I don't use it because it's hard to land dair

[fair frigate]

When I played in beta, I could easily win like 95% of matchups against Iron Giant

I just fought him for the first time since release

And he absolute obliterated me, like it wasn't even close, I all his abilitys had priority, and when in the air he would easily just throw me out of the map with a single up punch

How do you guys deal with Iron Giant?

[olive otter]

Who here still use airwalker?

Even after the nerf I still kill bugs at 30%

[jovial delta]

you have to be extremely careful can kind of hit and run or combo and run. also if you dair him at the ledge you can jus keep spamming dair and he'll keep getting hit over and over til he dies

[jovial delta]

hes so cheese tho. he can kill arya at like 20

[whole willow]

airwalker has a lot of factors to it whether you can combo or not. if youre going against someone heavy and big like supes or jason then jab, upspecial, platform, jab, upspecial, sair is true. if youre going againt someone light like harley or another arya you have to decide last minute whether theyre close enough to platform jab after your upspecial

you can also jab, jump dair, platform, jab, jump dair, upspecial, sair

you can also jab, facesteal, dodge jab and go from there

and if the situation presents itself you can catch someone with a platform jab midair and then upspecial upair and its usually a free kill

[hard fiber]

jab jump dair isn’t true in a lot of situations right?

[whole willow]

yeah need to be higher % i think

jab facesteal dodge jab jump dair i think is true though

[hard fiber]

yeah this is what I use

Only works if they’re close/di-ing towards you tho

[frank basalt]

hi

[tidal jetty]

Got a questino for yall - just played an arya in tourneyment and got rolled. Whats some tips for the arya matchup??

also who are some bad arya matchups

[winged rain]

In my experience Batman is my worse matchup

[nova cosmos]

I’m sorry, Arya has always been my main since the beta, but she completely sucks right now. She has very few kill options, low damage, and dies completely early. I’m so tired of this game having all the characters that take a lot of skill, like Arya, be completely trash while characters who don’t even need a functioning brain can easily win

[sour juniper]

I think that Arya is one of the only characters that is truly deserving of the ‘hard’ category, she actually does loads of damage but they require combos

[blissful mist]

I just wish her non dagger side B got a little bit of a range buff

[sour juniper]

There are loads of high damage combos out there, I’ve found a couple 70+ dmg combos and I know I’m not even close to perfecting any of them. She’s really hard but also really rewarding, fighters like wonder woman who rival her damage with easier combos are getting nerfed, so don’t leave us!

[sour juniper]

Her spin attack is kinda weird imo. It’s super punishable and she has other moves that do the same thing better tbh, I do hope it gets changed in some way, it doesn’t need to be powerful but right now it’s just not that great

[nova cosmos]

I felt like in beta she was more optimal. There were a few good perks for her from the beta like Taz Trig or any of the angle/aerial damage perks. I played a game against a Shaggy the other day and a non charged aerial down special killed me at 59.

[sour juniper]

Yeah valid

[nova cosmos]

I feel like she’s very limited with how few perks there are now

I personally run Trophy, Snowball, SFA, and Pugilist

[sour juniper]

I think she’s better for 2s than 1s for that exact reason

[blissful mist]

I run betrayal, platform pugilost and the one that gives high % weakness

Although I mainly do 2s

[blissful mist]

Pressing the advantage , that's the one

[nova cosmos]

I play both 2s and 1s but I don’t feel like Betrayal is all that good for 2s sometimes

[sour juniper]

She’s not really about ramping up damage, but she’s great at setting up kill confirms and teamplay. Her damage can be good, but her main strength are team combos

[nova cosmos]

It feels like one mistake as Arya costs you a stock because she’s so easy to kill, yet lacks any real kill power outside of long combos

[sour juniper]

Her knife was definitely meant for ladder combos

[nova cosmos]

Her neutral and air up special + air up neutral feel like the main way to kill as her

[sour juniper]

Absolutely

[nova cosmos]

I hear all the time that Arya is A tier but to me she relatively feels like Mid to low B tier and sometimes even C tier

She feels overshadowed by how complex she can be with such little payout if you aren’t playing her to the tee

Meanwhile Bugs Bunny can just spam his safe and his baseball for free kills

[blissful mist]

Nah, Arya is def good. It just feels drowned out by other characters simply being better/easier

[sour juniper]

I guess she’s more about combos than knockback, you don’t kill them by ramping up damage but more so by bringing them to the killbox

[nova cosmos]

Which can be a bit hard against some characters with good mobility

[blissful mist]

I've gotten a fair few jab kills, but your bread and butter is mainly going to be vertical

[sour juniper]

Yes

[nova cosmos]

If only they still had the perks for extra damage from angles

[sour juniper]

She’s B tier for sure, but that doesn’t mean she’s bad

[blissful mist]

Speaking of air kills, I hate so much that wonder woman's up air is so good

[nova cosmos]

Not at all, she just feels slightly obsolete compared to the easier characters

[sour juniper]

You really just put more work in and you’ll see the same results

[nova cosmos]

Like Shaggy, Banana Guard, and Bugs Bunny all are relatively easy and very strong in the meta

[blissful mist]

I cannot wait to see the current meta burned to the ground by nerfs. Granted, that'll just create another op meta inevitably, but it'll still feel good

[nova cosmos]

WHY ON EARTH DID THEY NERF REINDOG BUT NOT SHAGGY

[sour juniper]

Bugs is easy to play, but hard to play perfectly

[blissful mist]

Those 7 reindog players had it too easy

[nova cosmos]

Spam baseball bat is all you have to do realistically

[sour juniper]

Kinda

[nova cosmos]

I feel like Arya is a bit similar to Jason and Morty in a sense that they require a good amount of skill in some form (I.e: Arya doing combos, Jason proper timing, and Morty a whole laundry list of things) but don’t get enough payout

[sour juniper]

But my friend was top 10 bugs in beta, he had to use 100% of his brain power to learn every character’s interactions with safe, micromanaging rocket / safe / pie / kiss / burrow positions, etc. He’s easy to play but it’s super hard to fully utilise his whole kit

But yeah you’re right he’s super strong

[nova cosmos]

It feels like a single Bugs attack does more damage than a whole Arya combo

[daring trail]

can someone just send a chart of all the moves grounded and aerial she gets from face steal for each character

[winged rain]

She gets the side special on ground and the up special in air

[daring trail]

no

cause she gets morty 3rd hit jab and air neutral attack

while getting bugs up air

they put thought into what she gets i can tell

u actually have to know matchup

[winged rain]

Here is a video on it https://youtu.be/NASNrErrRys?si=uwazqqE3_CAWCpYJ

[daring trail]

thx

[rough ridge]

arya is def an A tier character when played correctly imo

[winged rain]

I like how my up tilt doesn’t kill IG at 144%

I had it charged

And didn’t kill him at 144

It only killed him at 198

And he kills me at 75

[torpid lintel]

She’s got a new Beach Ready skin in the new Rift! It’s very cute, I wonder when we will get it?

[winged rain]

Same

I liked it it’s different and new

[blissful mist]

Not quite what I was hoping for, but it's still cute and I'll probably grab it

[winged rain]

I heard we’re getting a matrix skin for her as well later

[blissful mist]

@winged rain you wanted to do runs?

[winged rain]

Yeah sounds good

[blissful mist]

kk,whats your user

[winged rain]

You added me before I’m tempo120

[blissful mist]

(hopfully my game isn't broken anymore)

[winged rain]

It won’t let me join your party 😭

Let me try to make one

[blissful mist]

thank god its works now

1 sec, lemme get my cat off my back

[winged rain]

Lmao understandable

I’m gonna change characters

[blissful mist]

kk

i'm ngl i have no clue what velmas moveset is haha

[winged rain]

Haha she’s got a wacky one

[blissful mist]

god that light bulb is instant

[winged rain]

Yeah it’s like

Her best move

I’m gonna switch back to Arya

Velma is nice

But I prefer making Arya work over her 😭

GG

I gotta go

Thanks for playing though

[blissful mist]

kk, gfgs

?ggs

*GGS

i can type

[winged rain]

Lmao 😭

My only recommendation is don’t be afraid to use neutral attack in the air and don’t be afraid to steal faces

[haughty knot]

CANNOT wait for the balance patch

arya needs buffs

they need to KILL shaggy bugs ww joker bg

[umbral raft]

What percent does she kill at now for tanks?

[haughty knot]

idk

but they gutted the only thing that made her good

air walker

[digital coral]

I think she's actually pretty solid, they just need to make her dash atk and uair not drop

[haughty knot]

yeah that'd be a big buff

just making dagger teleport and up special more consistent would be amazing

[visual wharf]

I hate that you can be hit out of the dagger teleport, it's already hard to land against a good player

[digital coral]

This is indeed annoying I will admit. Especially since you're already mid teleport, shouldn't you be invul?

I get it if you stuff the attack before she activated it but sometimes I swear I get hit mid teleport

[digital coral]

What about up special isn't consistent? You mean the knock back angle?

[visual wharf]

I think if we land dagger on the opponent the teleport should have invulnerable frames, but if it is just sitting there on the ground then yeah ig no I-frame for you

[digital coral]

I don't think up b really needs a buff, or at least I don't really see a reason for it

[haughty knot]

sometimes it puts you in a position to side air sometimes up air sometimes nothing hits at all. it might be di?

[digital coral]

It is DI

That's the whole deal with her Up B. You have to predict or react to where they're DI-ing.

[haughty knot]

yeah remove that

[digital coral]

Well ig if she had up b sair always confirmed it wouldn't be the end of world

Doesn't seem abhorrent

[vale imp]

They just need to bring back triple jump

And that DI perk and she’ll be fine

[hard fiber]

they’re probably not going to do that

I think they removed it for a reason

[digital coral]

Not happening and I really hope it stays that way

[daring trail]

You don’t need triple jump when everyone dies off the top so early plus burnout combos will be insane

Ur enemy won’t even have a chance to touch the ground

[vale imp]

Ik i the coping on when her combo game was longer

It’s seems like from me labbing that her combos are not as long as they were in beta

[twilit ingot]

I kind of like where arya is at. If anything she has a few hit boxes that seem to short for the animation, and the only buff I would like would be bringing back the ability to combo after Nair in more situations. Will that happen? Probably not. But I don't want them to buff her too much because last time they did that they gutted her way too much after.

[summer oasis]

Hey Arya s mates I would like to know how do you edge guard with her cuz every time im in this situation it looks like that the best choice is just to let the ennemy come back to the stage

I feel bad about the tools we have to do it

Sometimes you can try to do the down air attack but this moove is pretty bad, slow and easy to punish

Sometimes i just hit with an up attack but yeah sending up while you edge guarding is not really where you want to throw the ennemy

Or sometimes just go back and do a down attack but it is very predictable as it is already the best tool to approach the ennemy in neutral

If you guys have any tips i ll be glad to discuss about it !

Also I wish for a better character perk for now i just use the 5% pretty sad about it

[twilit ingot]

Well I try to go for the dair if they just hit the ledge but if they are stalling I pretend to let them up and go for the down tilt. There is also the option to try for a Nair sometimes but I always forget to do that option

[summer oasis]

oh yeah true

forgot that nair was a thing

i ll try dat to edge guard probably better moove than dair

[summer oasis]

I figured it out why nobody use neutral air

it is the worst attack you have in Arya s kit

the angle of it looks good to edge guard

but this moove has no force no damage no follow ups

just by never use this moove in fight we ll be better Arya s main lol

[winged rain]

It’s a good approach tool and to mix it up

Sure it has a weird angle but you get used to it

[winged rain]

Jab > up special > Fair > jump > Nair > jump > Fair

also Nair > dair > Up air is another combo that uses Nair

[summer oasis]

@winged rain Do you have a clip ?

Those look like very specific, not true and pretty much mixeable for a better moove than nair

[winged rain]

i can make them

but for the most part Nair is useful

[summer oasis]

I ll be glad to see it ^^

may be you ll make me want to use that moove

[winged rain]

https://outplayed.tv/media/zYZ1Z1

is the first combo

and the second one

https://outplayed.tv/media/PWy4k0

[summer oasis]

can you post it on #clips ?

[winged rain]

posted

[summer oasis]

yeah too specific and not true but thanks for the clips I apreciate that

[winged rain]

but the point of it was that Nair can be used in a combo setting and is not useless

not using it is holding yourself back from the move that can be used

there are some char like Lebron's Side special or Velma's side special that are useless but not with Arya

[summer oasis]

I honeslty think that the moove is so bad that not using it is better

it s like the side special when you already used your throw

too bad to be used

the other moove that I rarely use but I can sometimes find a way to it is neutral attack on the ground

at least this one result to something

a kill or an edge gard position

[winged rain]

Well you do you with the character I’ll just say you might not be getting the most out of her with not using it

[summer oasis]

May be we could play some days so you could show me live how you use those mooves

[winged rain]

I mean I’m down just message me when you wanna run some

[summer oasis]

I'm playing now if you can

[winged rain]

Sure add me I’m “tempo120”

It says you’re no online 💀

[summer oasis]

Nice skin bro

xD

dam you pretty good

[winged rain]

Thanks haha

You’re not bad yourself

[summer oasis]

i have some bad lag do you ?

[winged rain]

Yeah sometimes I noticed pretty bad lag

[summer oasis]

that s anoying

[winged rain]

I don’t normally have lag so I don’t think it’s my fault

[summer oasis]

this was not happening earlier

yeah same

lets hope it ll be better

dam

got it

[winged rain]

Wasn’t that bad that match

[summer oasis]

yes i had no lags

you use it has an approch tools sometimes

it is quite fast

[winged rain]

Your Arya isn’t bad but yeah Nair can be useful

[summer oasis]

now i can see

[winged rain]

Well thanks for playing you did good

[summer oasis]

oh you done already

sad hope we could spar some more another time

[winged rain]

We can run one more match my thing disconnected for some reason

[summer oasis]

oh

yeah got dc too

[winged rain]

Steam has been acting weird since that ps4 xb1 update thing

[summer oasis]

for real

[winged rain]

Gg

[summer oasis]

jaja i'm not anywhere near you

you too good xD

ggs

[winged rain]

Haha thanks but it’s just about understanding her moments and practicing a lot

If you want I can invite you to the Arya server

[summer oasis]

the arya server ? xD

[winged rain]

There is a discord server of Arya mains

[summer oasis]

that s impressive

i'm good for now

thanks for the offer tho

[winged rain]

Alright well you can ping if you wanna run some more sets later

[summer oasis]

sure you have a lot to teach me

[wet lagoon]

can arya still taunt while face stolem? ( like taunt while transformed as shaggy)

[winged rain]

No

[visual wharf]

They took away the best salt inducing taunt in the game

[winged rain]

Which was?

[visual wharf]

Arya face stun

The look of distain your opponent gets when they see themselves on the victory screen but knowing that they loss

[dire flower]

Finn main trying to pick up Ayra. Tips?

[maiden barn]

Learn high damage true combos, USE PEOPLES FACES SOME OF THE MOVES ARE SO GOOD SUCH AS BUGS BAT, maximize your movement skills ;ie hyper hop, dodge jump, jump fastfalling, fastfalling in general. Use Airwalker but learn without it at first so you dont rely on it. NEXT, USE YOUR NEUTRAL DOWN ATTACK TO CLEAR DISTANCE AND APPROACH ITS INSANE AND IT CAN ALSO KILL AT HIGH PERCENTS AND DEPENDING ON POSITION ON THE MAP. Also, use your side air a lot it kills at high enough percent and position on the map, grounded neutral forward kills, and grounded neutral up kills at high percent. Lastly, use ur neutral air to take space and approach

[viral meadow]

wtf is hyper hop im aware of the rest of them

[maiden barn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O28rGVFfI1c&t=107s

[jovial delta]

what is it?

[winged rain]

I can send you an invite if you want it’s mostly just a server made up Arya mains

[summer oasis]

Hey mate what is airwalker ?

[blissful mist]

its one of the perks you can equip. It makes it so when you dodge without moving, it generates a platform under you for like, half a second in exchange for half your dodge meater

it used to be better, but it got nerfed a little back

[gloomy sequoia]

what are some perks I should be using for Arya?

[manic eagle]

mask (or dagger for 2v2s) snowball airwalker and pugilist

[tulip seal]

do people play arya in 2s? She feels much harder when you cant ToD off jab

also im kinda liking well rounded over arya's other main perks

as a 1s player i dont use the dagger one ofc

[whole willow]

2s more fun cus u dont copy paste the same combo over and over again

[tulip seal]

thats fair

I just feel like i can never really do anything but poke and play neutral in 2s

i thrive off saucy combos and sick twitter clips so I don't really love 2s

[olive otter]

Who here agrees that arya needs ui change on face steal? It would be nice to indicate which you stole for 2's

[tulip seal]

oh yeah for sure

jab > face steal when there are 3 people on top of me is so silly

funny little gambling minigame

[untold spade]

Why is shaggy so strong wtf

[torpid lintel]

Arya’s beach ready outfit is finally available in the store. It’s in a bundle with a wolf avatar (old) her announcer pack, and a new ring out, which is the USA flag which is extremely random (and as an American, kinda cringe lol) I really like the outfit but I don’t have enough Gleamium. I’m more tempted as I’m hearing good things about her lately in here. But I do have her Christmas outfit which is fun.

[digital coral]

best skin just dropped

[ivory sable]

is jab face steal into instant air dair real
the bot doesn't dodge out and i got it once on a real guy but it sucks and some people on quickplay suck so i still can't tell

[rough ridge]

yea the whole us flag thing was really random 😭

probably just put it in there to make the bundle cost more

[toxic stirrup]

coming from characters like marvin, do you think arya would be a good second main? i used to main sheik in smash and was wondering if she was a good pick. from what ive seen though, she looks really technical with air walker and all.

[west vigil]

Who should I play if Arya is my best/favorite character

[toxic stirrup]

maybe another assassin? like finn, maybe.

just throwing the idea out there though

[summer oasis]

Arya s great she s a true assassin not like Marvin

Very different gameplay but very fun too

Agressive playstyle fit her pretty well

[edgy bear]

she is probably a far cry for sheik, hving way less mobility, being, however hving more kill power than sheik does. a true sheik would arguably be stripe, if thats something ur looking for

[toxic stirrup]

did play stripe, but he just didnt stick with me

i have one concern with arya, and that's her using air walker. do i have to use it? to be honest im not sure if i want to. weird thing to be concerned about i know, but every time ive used air walker in general i fail 😭

saying that because ive seen tons of aryas using it

[summer oasis]

you dont have to no

[toxic stirrup]

idk a lot of friends told me i play a very fast, aggressive playstyle and that arya could fit 🤷‍♂️

[ivory sable]

what are arya's kill confirms

if i don't hit dash attack i feel like im working 10x harder for every kill than the other guy

i die at 60-80 and kill at 130 unless im against someone else who struggles to kill more

[whole willow]

u dont need to use airwalker obv but with it it opens up a lot more combo potential

if every time u use airwalker u fail that doesn't mean u avoid using it u should learn to use it 😭

up special into airwalker is really easy to combo with on arya but u need to know character weights and hitboxes because it might not be confirmed depending on where you upspecial from

but it's consistent and u can get good with it once it cliks

clicks

[whole willow]

up special into sair kills a lot

nlight

charge ur sair when upspecial too

higher their % the more u can charge

and di in the direction of their di while u charge

[toxic stirrup]

ive used airwalker on other characters before and this has never happened

i feel like its just a waste of dodge meter

at least when i use it

[whole willow]

arya gains much more from airwalker than other characters i reckon

just do it after upspecial

[toxic stirrup]

using it is one thing

actually getting the person to land on it/hit your move while you both are on it

is smt different

i havent been able to land air walker once

if i dont use air walker is she even worth playing? feel like it takes a way a ton of her potential and im awful at landing them

[whole willow]

its actuall really easy on arya

[toxic stirrup]

not from what i've experienced

i cant land it for the life of me 😭

[whole willow]

i mean yeah shes a really fun chartacter but u are losing maybe a third of her combo potential

what region r u from @toxic stirrup

[toxic stirrup]

na

[whole willow]

fk

id run some customs with u to show potential but id have to play with maybe 300ms of input lag

ill try ot hit a clip

[toxic stirrup]

ur good man dw abt it

tbh imn ot sure who im gonna main. tried garnet, didnt work. tried stripe, didnt work. tried marvin, didnt work. tried lebron, didnt work. tried taz, didnt work. tried superman, didnt work.. now arya 😭

i mean ive tried all the characters but those are the ones i actually put time into

[winged rain]

Air walker is useful but it isn’t everything

I wouldn’t even say it’s a third of her combos

She has amazing combos and is a strong fast pacing character

Using air walker is based off reads

[ivory sable]

how do i play Arya bc i keep losing the ditto to ones that just spam down smash and don't know a single combo 😭

[gloomy sequoia]

that's what I'm trying to figure out

[toxic stirrup]

take advantage of anti-airs

or follow their movement

like they jump, u jump.

makes reads/hitting them easier

[winged rain]

Jab is your best friend with Arya a lot of her combos start with Jab

And down tilt

[ivory sable]

i do love her jab combos

[ivory sable]

what are her anti air moves other than utilt? Sometimes I get crossed up but that might just be a skill issue bc im used to jokers being a giant arc

so far I've been walking back to force a whiff and going back in to punish but everything is so safe in this game i can't get close enough to jab before they dodge

copying k4neki or whatever his name is on this server

[winged rain]

Idk man I just swing the sword around until I kill the opponent

And then I win

[toxic stirrup]

dont always punish with jab

if the opp slips up once that doesnt always mean u can punish for ur best combo

sometimes u gotta mix up ur punishes/approach options

movement as well

and lets say you try to punish with jab but are too slow

they dodge behind and get a combo off bc u whiffed ur whiff punish

instead, delay your attacks and/or use boost jump/boost attack (thats what i call it)

[ivory sable]

true

[ivory sable]

how do i do this

[toxic stirrup]

not delay them in the literal sense, just bait out their dash then attack

and boost jump is dodge + jump

boost attack is just on the ground, dash then use a move right after

[ivory sable]

i might try instant dair or fair as a punish

[toxic stirrup]

yea u could do that

[pine fable]

Since when does Airwalker not restore your number of jumps and up special?

[pine fable]

Also I'm so tired of watching my attacks go right through the enemy while I get hit by their side tilt while i'm hitting them from behind or getting hit by their up tilt while i'm hitting them from below

Just awful hitboxes

[ivory sable]

needle is too thin for the giant circle hitboxes they are fond of

so to compromise it starts at her shoulder and ends at her elbow

[whole willow]

its never been able to restore them i think it was just a common misconception

[frank basalt]

XD

[celest tangle]

the only thing i’m hoping for in the next balance patch is a ftilt range buff

and i also feel like up special into airwalker into ftilt is so inconsistent

[hoary plank]

Arya mains try not to edge their opponents the entire match challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]

[ivory sable]

what do u do against Steven nair

the solution can't be let him whiff it 55 times and punish another move when he gets bored

[worn pulsar]

it shouldn’t be consistent

[worn pulsar]

you legit can’t do anything

is there anything true out of nair or downtilt ?

(i don’t feel like labbing)

[ivory sable]

that's so ass

[ivory sable]

downtilt u can do the facesteal jab combo

only at low %

[worn pulsar]

downtilt facesteal is true? bet

ty

[ivory sable]

idr if it's downtilt dodge facesteal dodge jab or downtilt dodge jab facesteal dodge jab

[worn pulsar]

i’ll try it out

[ivory sable]

after that you just go crazy do anything

i do up b into stolen move but it doesn't work against characters that give us booty to work with like batman stripe Steven, etc

[worn pulsar]

yea up b into harley ww bugs face kills so early

i think the characters who don’t give us vertical kill moves are better used for damage

like you can combo into IG ass slam and i’m fairly certain you can combo after if you dodge cancel after the first hit

[tardy heath]

Is anyone familiar w how cooldowns work on stolen moves? Some of the moves she steals have cooldowns like Marvin bubble and Morty gun

Sometimes I'll use these stolen moves and it'll activate the on cooldown version instead and I'm not entirely sure why

Do her own cooldowns that affect face steal cooldowns

[worn pulsar]

if i had to guess, it’s tied to there cooldown but i haven’t tested it

if you wanna hop into a custom we can test it rq

[digital coral]

Arya dash attack doesn't drop anymore that's all I wanted

[ivory sable]

that's all i wanted too but i was scared to ask bc i thought it would come with strings

[mighty maple]

best character in the game

[ivory sable]

the neutral special change kills one meme combo i did but it was only on black Adam so who cares

[mighty maple]

but arya doesn’t KO when hittin enemies pass the top barrier

kinda annoying it’s like she hits for nothing

[tardy heath]

I tested it myself it's based on her side special cooldown

[worn pulsar]

ohhhh really?

makes no sense but kinda does

[tardy heath]

If you've thrown knife it makes projectiles behave like the on cooldown version

[worn pulsar]

good to know

[tardy heath]

There's a cool interaction w Marvin's face steal

First you face steal him. then grounded neutral special and throw knife at bubble and it makes knife go much faster

She can use Marvin's bubble on knife. You have to shoot bubble before throwing knife

Bubble is a nice combo tool tho regardless

[ivory sable]

my one combo doesn't work

jab face steal jab

[whole willow]

upspecial into platform no longer works

long as delay

platform as combo extension isnt as viable anymore

yeah all her true combos that include platform wont work theres a move lockout at the end of every move

the neutral dodge lockout thingy

dair into platform jab doesnt work

[gloomy sequoia]

wtf