game-feedback

[supple depot]

the game had indetity without shielding, shielding makes it become a generic platformer and a game where people can run around and just shield passivley. it's an option that rewards passivitiy in a time we're need it.

Also hard agree about the bugs nerfs, like they did 5 major changes that all on their own wouldn't be so bad, but all of them combined makes bugs just flat out not fun since most of his options aren't good, and not being fun is worse than being good or bad.

[olive pier]

Shaggy needs real nerfs. Not combo nerfs. You don’t need to combo if you kill in three hits

[deft sigil]

I just logged in after a while and for the first time since the Marceline update and dude... I can no longer complete what I thought it was "the first half" of the battlepass and still find new characters are unobtainable with old "FC", despite having it as a final reward for a current event... I feel held hostage because all of the grind you need to do in a, each time shorter, period of time or if you want to try someone new. I do love this game and want to keep coming back to it, that's why I bother trying to voice my issues with it.

But between this and finding so much laggy matches everytime I get in, I'm feeling so discouraged to keep coming back.

[quiet hinge]

@sturdy bone @umbral summit WTF is wrong with pfg? Are you purposely punishing solo players or do we need a grade 3 math revisit? Every bloody season, I swear. Festiversus vamp invasion can't be done solo. I have every possible solo star and am still 3 off the knit buck, the one knit buck that was given to some in increments of 110. Gj, keep it up. I totally can't live without having to constantly deal with this bs.

Fix it or don't, idc anymore. I'm off to play some warframe.

[sonic tartan]

how they can fix/refresh jack (pls pfg):
Make jab 2 pull in instead of pushing out. This can make up tilt combos more consistent. Buff the damage on this move as well
Uptilt: scoops in better so it doesn’t whiff on smaller characters like gizmo and finn. Make the second hit consistently ground bounce better so you lead it into tech situations, but don’t overdo it so you can still di it at lower percents. Also buff the damage a bit
Focus: Focus is kinda bad. It’s Jack’s whole gimmick and it’s not even good.

1. Focus side special should have invincibility when you hit the move meaning you can’t be hit out of the move. To slightly nerf it, The opponent is placed in the middle of jack’s slashes unable to be hit out of the move and frozen in place until the last slash knocks them back. Since they’re placed in the middle, the kill power gets nerfed but it buffs its combo potential.
2. Focus Air Down Special. This move should throw out the projectile even if your in the air and deal higher knockback . This makes the move kill easier while making it more useful offstage when you have focus.

Grab: Grab has been nerfed in this patch. I feel like the move needs a complete rework. How i’d rework the move is that jack can change the direction of where he wants to throw you. It can be up, down, left, or foward. If you input the move different from foward at all, the move gets put on a 15 second cooldown but you can still grab however you cannot change the direction at all until the 15 seconds is up. This can open up more mixups, combos, and edge guarding for jack.
Also bring back the armor when you grab someone/projectile even if you’re not in focus.

Counter: Counter is a really bad move, In my opinion most of the counters in this game need a rework but if not, they could make counter work similarly to jokers. Where if you aren’t close, it won’t do the elbow but if you are, it does the attack way quicker which you can combo into jab. I think to balance it out, it takes 2 bars of meter.

Up special : This is really a nitpick but at higher percents, you can combo up special easier leading to vertical KO’s

Grounded Down Special (rivers flurry)
Make the hitbox connect better for the start of down b so you can connect it more effectively

Down tilt: Make it do slightly more damage and kill earlier.

Netural Attack: Make the beetle come out a bit faster while slightly buffing the damage alongside it

Look i get it… Most of the mvs community feels that jack is fine is where he is but i completely disagree. Samurai Jack has no true combo routes like most characters. Up tilt doesn’t hit smaller characters at all and is very easy to di at mid percents (I can understand at low percents it being di able but it’s kinda unacceptable that even with mid percents he can’t do much) Jack also has lack luster killer power. You can say he has focus but half the time it doesn’t work for you. Focus side special is completely read based now and even if you get a read it’s not guaranteed you get the full 3 hits. Either they hit you out of the move when you hit it or they simply walk out of it. His Combo routes are also lack luster. Up tilt doesn’t scoop up smaller characters and it can be di able at mid percents. The reason why i made this concept is because i feel like that Jack should be able to have good low to mid percentage combos and good kill power. I feel like these changes can make Jack a much stronger character and yeah i get it… He is easy to use but keep in mind. Jack is a big body with a light weight. He is combo food and dies early. He’s a glass cannon with no cannon ball. His damage output is also kinda mid and very matchup dependent. I also feel like some of Jacks nerfs should be reverted cause i feel like he got gutted. I could make a google doc if you guys agree with this of changes i gave jack personally. #BRINGSAMURAIJACKTOTHEPAST ‼️

[lucid delta]

When is Marceline getting nerfed?

[gusty bone]

Cannot stand facing off against the same people back to back in ranked

[sturdy dagger]

Shields didn't cause passive play. Being able to instantly run off on whiff, and easy 0tds did. (That's why the whole "Jabversus" thing was a criticism well before blocking was added)

That said
.....I do hope Bugs gets momentum and recovery buffs soon.

[gusty bone]

I’m so sick of ranked’s RP system

Awesome…getting penalized for the opponent leaving the match 😒

[sonic tartan]

just to follow up on this, if i do end up making the google doc, I will show the issues with SJ and why they should be changed with clips from me and the community

[deft sigil]

Also about the battle pass... how in the world are the battle passes 800 hundred gleamium EACH!? we're essentially paying double for almost the same number of rewards...

[thorny thicket]

marceline tornados are hard for me to see

[slate jetty]

but you do get 50 extra (850) back for completing it...its really easy to do and you do get 10 extra every.....so often...but not very...so you can get 1000 depending on how far you go

[supple depot]

Im not saying shields caused it but they only add more passivity

[valid ginkgo]

It was but valuable information

[slate jetty]

to what?

@valid ginkgo if those are characters you want in or wish they were there is a channel for that...Starfire might, but Invader Zim as much as I like him too...is impossible as hes a Nickelodeon property

[thorny thicket]

Would really love to be able to put on a random announcer

[valid ginkgo]

Zim/ Gizmo from Teen titans almost the same thing

[slate jetty]

...o-ok

[broken basalt]

i love new jason's gameplay, jab, jab, side special, repeat

[thorny thicket]

new?

[slate jetty]

Lol

It's not new but is repeatable low %....what is newer jab jab dodge-to repeat... because they fix his dodge xD

[cunning ether]

Is anybody else struggling with severe lag spikes (even in single player mode) on playstation, ever since the latest update on Tuesday? It's possible it is just my playstations harddrive going bad, but I'm wondering if anybody else is experiencing this as well...

[quasi geyser]

can ranked please sort people by signal strength? i'm not saying i'm lagging, but if the game starts registering hits BEFORE showing the attack animations, i might suspect they're moving faster than me

[willow cedar]

Raven can cheat in volleyball lol
She can move Lenore into the enemy's side of the court

[quasi geyser]

please add the option to avoid pairing with someone in ranked, if you rrun into them repeatedly and they have some sort of acvantage or cheap tactic, it quickly stops being fun

[digital ember]

Blocking is not fun bring back character's in battle passes and get rid of fighter road bring back the character currency game is not fun anymore

[tribal ruin]

^ I agree, get rid of blocking, so annoying and unnecessary, same with the other changes they mentioned

It’s so annoying having your enemy miss a move, you go for a punish and they just block the attack with no consequences

[supple depot]

Its called learning and adapting, have you literally ever played a fighting game before? When you die in a boss in dark souls do you go to discord demanding they change it to another boss?

[tribal ruin]

Either get rid of blocking, or make it so that if someone does block an attack it takes their whole dodge bar

[quasi geyser]

i HAVE learned and adapted, but i don't know where he's from, it's somewhere stretching the internet connection so thin my character keeps freezing to let him get in free shots. and that's without him somehow hitting me with a stun grab move WHILE he's shielding

i just want the option to prevent ONE player at a time from making it borderline impossible to enjoy the experience

at least in dark souls you can choose which boss you're working towards

[livid trellis]

Swap shield and ground parry input (rebind shield to down dodge) or add a toggle under control settings

Minor input issue. To parry in the air, you neutral dodge. But when grounded, a different input (down dodge) is needed to perform the same action. Say you want to parry, but you briefly land on the ground before doing it. Shield will activate. If you want to shield, but you're barely airborne, parry will activate. This makes it tricky to consistently use these options when close to the ground. This setting would rebind shield to down dodge, meaning parry input is always neutral dodge. This won't affect shields since they are only usable on the ground, just a controls adjustment for simplicity

[gentle perch]

Why are hitboxes/hurtboxes still broken. This has been a problem since the beta, whattheheck

[sturdy dagger]

I prefer blocking over them just parrying me when they literally just whiffed, or getting perfect dodge mid recovery animation.

At least you can punish the shield.

Ppl complaining about a BnB defensive mechanic, and not the problem that plagued the game from day one. Whiffing is just absurdly free.

[slate jetty]

it would be easier to have frame (or near frame) perfect shield be a parry ,that actually would be best. shielding is meant to be a quick easy input (not saying parry shouldn't obviously, just making a 2 button input.. for a shield that is easily punished would make it completely worthless

they are following the shield input scheme of Smash bros from what I see anyway...all the inputs as the same...shield down is a neutral dodge...but yeah, I believe in this game it should be "perfect" shield timing for the parry

with the down dodge being a "extra" input to parry mid guard/shielding

[livid trellis]

That would work well, just combine both actions into one

[gentle perch]

Stomp mode sucks.... Even when you win....

[proper solar]

Remove Wacky Weekends or make it its own mode

Its very annoying trying to complete the Event Queue Missions with Wacky Weekends

[slate jetty]

this

"do 400 damage in event queue"

race, volleyball, race, stomp, star contender 🤡

[supple depot]

Being able to block players would be nice if its not already an option

[quasi geyser]

not EVERYONE, but enough to prevent an unfair loop

[quasi geyser]

or make it so arena mode counts as an event. it's usually easier to join and it's consistently damage based

[gilded talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yj3VgROJDg Passive player ruin MV. 1v1 is unplayable for this very reason. Enough is enough if yall want a bigger playerbase you need to reward agressive plays and nerf passive plays. Enough of this weenie hut jr auto tech, parry=free kills, burnout meter restored after 2 successful hits nonsense. Nerf dodge meter make burnout last TWICE as long with NO way to restore it faster. Also Autotech should be ONLY against toxic lockins like the ones Iron Giant has. You shouldn't be able to auto tech away from a low tier character that rightfully got their combos off on you. Devs yall gotta lock in. This why even die hard fans are leaving the game.

[valid ginkgo]

What’s the point of grinding ranked skin when they are not going to be considered a boost variant skin when playing rank matches for this season and upcoming season!?

[bright thunder]

reduce the rate the gremlins stage is showing up

i’ve gotten it significantly more than other stages for no good reason

[gentle cargo]

If iron giant grabs an opponent while they are shielding, after trying to follow up with jab the opponent will be flung out and iron giant gets attacked instead

[sonic folio]

some modes in wacky weekend are kind of really annoying, especialy when you have missions asking to deal damage in it, but the game mode literally doesnt let you, or rarely lets you

[whole pond]

Shields need breakage indicators, constantly holding shield and it never breaking is crazy

Let me know if I should just back off or keep hitting it please

[supple depot]

The dodge meter is also the shield meter

[whole pond]

then it doesn’t work

[supple depot]

huh? could you post clips of that where the meter runs out and they still have shield up?

[slate jetty]

Also try the shield break move too

[errant wing]

i hate the character missions 🙏

im unlocking characters on fighters road because i have to, not because i want to play as them

and having velma and black adam missions clogging up my missions hub bothers me because im not going to complete them

[supple depot]

have to for what?

[errant wing]

have to in order to get characters like marcy/raven / have to just because they unlock as i progress through the game

[supple depot]

so you're upset you're unlocking more characters in order to get marcy/raven for free? I'm assuming this isn't a paid battlepass thing but feel free to correct me if the only way to get them is soley through money locked missions

[errant wing]

no

thats not what i complained about bro

im complaining about the character specific missions that pop up AFTER you unlock a character

i dont want character specific missions, let alone 8+ of them for characters i dont want to play or dont like playing

[supple depot]

so then what would you replace that with? just more daily mission stuff?

[errant wing]

i wouldnt replace it with anything?

it doesnt need replaced with anything

i just want it gone

it wasnt there for the first half of the season and i didn't see anybody begging for it

[supple depot]

You do realize this is a game that wants you to keep playing right every free to play games does and alot don’t even have free options.
It can be annoying but if it bothers you that much you can play something else. However free to play games will have to have some catch in order to keep people playing

[errant wing]

chat what 💀

[supple depot]

Saying “i don’t like this thing take it away.” Is useless and not going to get anything. If you want a chance at change you need to propose an actual alternative.

[errant wing]

there doesnt NEED to be an actual alternative

[supple depot]

The devs aren’t going to listen to “take this away i don’t like it” you can say it if it makes you feel better.

[tiny ocean]

FIX THE NETCODE I HAVE LOST 50 RP BECAUSE OF DISCONNECTS AND IM USING A LAN ADAPTER

[supple depot]

I always yell at my internet provider cause there often the ones messing stuff up. Yelling at them actually causes them to try something and can genuinly help.

[errant wing]

this thing that theyve JUST implemented is BAD in my opinion. its called game feedback bc im giving my feedback on the game. they're not going to read this chat and see my one complaint and its sort of ridiculous that you're like this pressed i hate the uggo and pointless character missions that literally WONT go away unless you complete them

god forbid you dont like something and dont think it should exist??

[supple depot]

Thats a better feedback explination

[errant wing]

💀

[tiny ocean]

Marceline has an infinite, is it seriously that hard to test characters before they come out?

[cinder sable]

Stomp is probably the most trash wacky weekend mode ive ever seen holy hell

[slate jetty]

True ..that, race, star contender, and volleyball need to get out of its rotation

Especially if you make a daily "do damage"...when all of those you get 0 or next to 0 damage in that mode

[worldly grove]

Adding trash game modes to wacky weekend sucks because its so fun, Things like star contenders, racing, and stomp aren't fun because you dont play mvs you shouldn't take away characters moves. What makes the modes like hammers, giants, volleyball, counter, and the new gumball rain fun is that its a normal fight with these wacky modifiers

Thats the same reason why volleyball is fun because each character has different ways to hit the ball its not just 1-2 attacks. rifts have some good modes that could be added that dont take away from the moveset like laz pit, and sharks with a falling floor, or moving maps, and enemys spawning that will attack everyone. #bring back blue ultimate warrior shaggy

[lusty sparrow]

yeah..stomp in wacky isnt it

[supple depot]

yea who cares about what you feel if you don't provide useful feedback, they're not goign to catar to every whim of you. if you want to give useful feedback you have to explain stuff. just saying you hate it is nothing. who are you and why should anyone care what you hate if you say nothing about it

[errant wing]

dawg its been five hours wtf 💀 am i not allowed to voice a complaint with a system i believe is bad

[supple depot]

you are and i'm allowed to tell you it's really useless and no one cares if you don't explain it. but you did eventually

[errant wing]

i did explain it. i explained exactly why i was unhappy with it

[supple depot]

yes you eventually did but your first posts didn't

[errant wing]

literally RIGHT HERE

[supple depot]

yea who cares about what you think, tehre isn't a mission max so clogging up missions isn't really an issue, you did expalin it later on in better depth

you need to actually explain what you're having issues with in order for it to feedback, if you're not you're just whining and htinking your opinion is so important with no explaination. which you did eventually

[errant wing]

an opinion is feedback

[supple depot]

and without any explination it's useless

anyone can give an opinion, doesn't mean it can be used for feedback. Oh no

[errant wing]

and i did explain my opinion. i explained that the character specific missions are only adding to the clutter in the missions tab, more so because i personally am not going to play these characters

dude genuine question do you know what feedback is

feedback isnt inherently constructive

[thorny thicket]

I personally like star contenders and stomp (although theres probably some room for quality of life patches here)

race kinda sux

[errant wing]

it can be opinionated

[supple depot]

do you? cause you first said an opinion with no explination then i had to push the feedback out of you

[errant wing]

it can be as simple as i dont like x thing without having to provide an alternative to what they can do instead

[thorny thicket]

maybe pick what mini games you get queued for?

[supple depot]

here's my feedback to you. i don't like the way you give feedback. how usefull is this feedback for you?

[errant wing]

explanation* if youre going to critcize me for "not knowing what feedback is" (which... uhm.) then at least spell it right lowkey /gen

[thorny thicket]

or like a mini game blacklist

[errant wing]

i mean youre allowed to have that opinion? but you still dont get to tell me my feedback is wrong or useless without being a complete jerk 💀

[supple depot]

but i just gave you an opinion, is that not useful feedback?

[thorny thicket]

i give good feedback :3

[supple depot]

thank you 💖

[thorny thicket]

wacky weekend has some serious issues tracking stats and like it bugs me a lot

i play a lot of wacky weekend

[neon reef]

@supple depot i just read this convo and you spouted a whole bunch of nonsense ngl. if you dont like the fact that people give feedback for a game you arent a creator for, you’re always free to not hang around in this specific chat afterall this is a chat for FEEDBACK not to invalidate someone else’s opinion

[errant wing]

i dont like star contenders tbh 😔 i dont like being limited to two moves only -- its very confusing

[thorny thicket]

yeah it took a game or two to get used to

some characters fare better than others

marvin's cracked

[errant wing]

esp because it automatically hotkeys those moves to other moves? so now my up special does an up attack anyway and i get completely disoriented

thats true

[neon reef]

idk what contenders is but i seen the word “tenders” give me some nowwww

[thorny thicket]

stomp is weird about the remapping

[errant wing]

its a wacky weekend thing. actually, speaking abt wacky weekend, i have another bit of "feedback" 😼

[thorny thicket]

c stick down doesnt dair

[supple depot]

i didn't invalidate his opinion i just said it was bad feedback. opinions=/= feedback imo. feedback needs more explination. he can have an opinoin on the game and i can have an opinion how how to give feedback. are you invalidating my opinion or do you think it's harsh feedback?

[errant wing]

wacky weekend sucks and you shouldnt be forced to play it over the weekend if you dont want to

ffa and wacky weekend should be different queues

[thorny thicket]

i think for stomp, ANY neutral attack input should be converted to to dair

[supple depot]

you're not you can play other games

[neon reef]

feedback is however the devs perceive it not you specifically.

[errant wing]

im sick of having to play volleyball ten times when im trying to complete an event queue mission

[errant wing]

bro are you actively trying to drive down the mvs player count 😭

[thorny thicket]

yo try parrying people in star contenders

[neon reef]

like if you arent a dev this players feedback does not need a response 💀

[errant wing]

mfs when you like a game but not everything the game does 😼

[supple depot]

honestly the toxicisty is annoying and getting to me so yea opinions with no explination bother me. but you did offer feedback later

[neon reef]

hey im gonna come to your house and tell you how you should organize your room. not because im the owner but because im an outsider and i said so 😛

[supple depot]

lets have an organization party. call it organization 13

[errant wing]

im not even being toxic 😭

i genuinely like this game 😭 but im allowed to dislike other parts

[supple depot]

valid it's just the constant bararge and you took the lashings. it';s nothing personal just random bad luck

[errant wing]

chat i did not sink 300 hours into this game to be called toxic this is so upsetting /silly

[neon reef]

lets have an agreement party. we’ll label it “✨stop giving your opinion to people who didn’t ask✨”

[neon reef]

i think thats a great agreement actually

silly goose

[ionic furnace]

PFG doesnt ask anymore....

[supple depot]

most of the people in this discord would be gone if that was the case

[neon reef]

they’ll close this chat whenever then

[errant wing]

tbh i think you interpret it as a barrage because it feels like youre telling me i cant have an opinion when the entire point of feedback is voicing your opinion (which i did initially -- even if its your opinion that i didnt provide a good enough explanation)

[neon reef]

it would include you so shoo 🥾

[ionic furnace]

no they wont

[errant wing]

which is going to cause me to get defensive because it feels like i have to have like. a reason to dislike something but that reason has to be deemed valid by you?

[supple depot]

you can always have an opinion, but feedback isn't the same as opinions and feedback can be useful or useless.

[errant wing]

when its my thoughts on an in-game system

[neon reef]

youre better off talking to a brick wall honestly

[supple depot]

yea and for useful feedback you need to explain them in depth

which you eventually did ❤️

[neon reef]

they’ll never see it because you’re busy blabbering nonsense which isn’t what this channel is for

[supple depot]

yea been a bunch of offtopic so now as good a poitn as any to do literally anything else on my part, cya and have happy holidays ❤️

[steep cloud]

game's not fun

[bright thunder]

please remove batman's bouncerang perk as weakened is not in the game anymore and make status effects not apply through shield

[sturdy dagger]

Heavy moves should just kill at high percentages. Like no Di or nothing, legit should drag and drop them into the kill zone like your deleting a file.

People can just linger, including the assassins, which from what I understand are supposed to die earlier in exchange for damage and speed.

IDK give everyone Shaggy knee or something 🙃

[sturdy dagger]

FFA still misappropriate kills

[slate jetty]

FFA is a joke because of that lol

[sturdy dagger]

When's Reindog's nemesis Kittytaur

[solar ocean]

I think fighter road should be tweaked a bit. Back when there was fighter currency, you had the ability to choose which character you wanted to get. Now, I have to get through ten characters I purposely didn't get in the past just to get the new characters. It also takes like the same amount of time as fighter currency to get a single character, so honestly it just feels like a downgrade more than anything. Also, characters should still be in the battlepass. Releasing them in fighter road just removes a lot of hype for a new character addition, same with having the "beta" to play test characters a few days before they come out for ten dollars, even though they are the exact same when they actually come out. I understand that MVS needs to make money, but it just feels excessive and a bit greedy.

[reef zinc]

True TBH

[foggy ether]

Hey… y’all need to DELETE Garnets stupid free kill at top screen.
If she can just grab you and kill she need to die doing it

[native wave]

HOLY EFF. I really want this to be highlighted. Marceline has an 'infinite' with her bass stance and I think side attack. I cannot dodge out, influence out, or attempt parry. Does someone have a counter to this?

Also like Raven, she has a 'carry-to-death' move with side air (Marceline use neutral air).

[eternal moon]

Harley needs an update

[eternal moon]

Her reaction time suck

Nerf tom and jerry

Fix this sh**

[foggy ether]

Bruh hold up how? She got one of the best Sairs in game. She fast bro. You gotta boost jump your attacks you’ll see

[eternal moon]

They made her so weak

[olive estuary]

My dodge stopped working in the middle of a ranked match. When the match ended, it went back to normal.

[lyric marlin]

Shaggy’s Winter skin isn’t available at all to equip in the game

Neither is Velma’s Winter skin for that matter

[raven kettle]

perhaps this is a "skill issue" but I gotta say I don't enjoy the new sheild mechanic at all. especially since non sheild attack dont' seem to have any sheild pressure what so ever. this might be the straw that breaks the camels back. I'll probably stop playing after I finish this battle pass.

[sturdy dagger]

Make Marcy commit to bass stance, have to finish a full sequence, do the up attack or get hit to leave it.

Also one nair limit on whiff, two on hit have to do a different air move to reset.

Down special should only hit above her when launching off the ground and landing. Not sucking in people above her when she's dropping down.

[supple depot]

the shield break attack is very useful for fighting shiels and having it attached to a button helps

[tropic lark]

Mfs will defend this sorry pile of dogwater like their life depends on it 😭 🙏

[foggy ether]

NERF GARNET FREE KILL

[valid ginkgo]

It’s say 20 free gleamium for deals daily but we only receive 10???? I’m confused

[steep cloud]

Their lives do depend on it lol they like to be carried like babes to victory

[molten geyser]

Can Iron Giant get unlimited fuel during Infinite Jump events?

[foggy ether]

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays PFG! 🎄❄️🎅🏽

I get frustrated with some things in the game but ultimately I’m glad that the game even exists in the first place. Thanks for all you do
✨

[broken basalt]

REMOVE THE LOOPS, A PPF KNOCKOUT ME WITH 40 DAMAGE WITH AN INFINITE COMBO

[stiff tiger]

Shields are the worst addition to the game

[lusty sparrow]

i think there is an issue with the snow particles on the home page. its slowing everything down.

[lusty sparrow]

i honestly feel it would be good for multiversus to have a starting roster.
8 or 12 fighters that are always free. a good variety of classes for new players to get a feel of the game.

shaggy isnt enough. some new players might just get bored with him or hate playing him and just leave the game. starting with 8 set different fighters could get more new players to stay

[foggy ether]

Shaggy, Batman, Bugs should be free. Maybe even reindog

[sonic folio]

thats cool, but it is something they cant do anymore. It shouldve be done as soon as the game released

[heady agate]

Finn mains need to seek help in touching grass and getting a life

Are Bugs Bunny Mains really that BRAINDEAD and when are we getting those Bugs Bunny Nerfs?!

[heady agate]

Yes, NO, No and BIG FAT NO

NERF TOM AND JERRY UP ATTACK HitBox and INCREASE the Hurtbox!, I CANT ESCAPE IT; i literally can’t escape away from it when i spot dodge. how Idiotically BRAINDEAD LOBOTOMIZED do you have to be to enjoy doing that to someone online and say “oh this isn’t Broken, They need it in order to win. Don’t nerf it please it’s fine how it is.” FAT CHANCE. Player First Games, I know one of your Team Members is reading this. So I Hope that you can do the following and NERF TOM AND JERRY ULTRA HARD!!! Because this character is going to cause players to break their controllers over how broken and unbalanced their are. So please FIX This, they are not fun to battle against at all.

P.s. their mains camp on stage with Up attack and it’s annoying!

HOW HARD IS IT TO NERF BUGS BUNNY UP AIR?!!!! NERF THE HITBOX, INCREASE THE HURTBOX AND FINALLY NERF THE KNOCKBACK POWER!!!! PLEASE!

[heady agate]

Might as well change this game’s name to “TryHardVersus” or “MultiTryHards”

[broken basalt]

Can you please do something against the jab loops?, nothing can be done because, surprise, the shield and the dodge do not have priority against the jab, batman, jason, TnJ, WW, BG, and more benefit and you cannot do nothing, FIX YOUR JAB

[foggy ether]

Someone else gotta be free. One character free in a free game is kinda crazy, considering the other free games I have aren’t like that

[foggy ether]

When I jab or attack shield it literally slows my character down and they get a free punish

[heady agate]

Powerpuff girls, Iron giant, Beetlejuice, Shaggy as the free character options

[gray flame]

Genuine Input from 300 hour player.

The new shield mechanic isn't it for me. Not at all. I totally understand why it was put it in, I can see the appeal but it just isn't for me(and that's fine! This game wasn't made solely for me and it owes me nothing).
Multiversus differentiated itself from Smash by excluding shielding, only allowing for dodges which completely changed the pace and flow of fights, I honestly played so much of my mental game around predicting people's dodges. Adding shields completely changes how I once knew this game. It just doesn't feel right anymore. I used to love playing MVS. For hours per session. Ever since shields were added I can hardly urge myself to come back to the game. I can only hope adding shields does the game success but I really think it's an incredibly harsh change to the way the game is played, especially since it's already established it's identity from early access and 3 seasons post official release.

[eternal moon]

Nerf tom and Jerry

Buff Harley she needs it

Fix this game

[eternal moon]

Take iron gaint out of the f****** game

[eternal moon]

How is lebron stronger than Harley this how u know this game is about to fall off because they have characters stronger than the ones that is supposed to be strong and white the speed too

[thorny thicket]

whyismyseedlow is probably my favorite bot name

[proper solar]

Good call separating FFA and Wacky Weekends into separate mods 😄

Now you can play FFA on weekends too

[light salmon]

shields are lame

[mossy hill]

did they make TNJ paddle unDI able anymore

[slate jetty]

dont think you can DI out of the paddle still

if you can...the TnJ has to be literally standing still to do so
if they move its not possible

[mossy hill]

it used to be DIable

its like they removed that crap

[slate jetty]

PFG making things worse? naaah couldnt be

[mossy hill]

insert shaggy after jab the shield 2x still able dodge instantly

[slate jetty]

as much as I wanted Marciline in the game and how much I like her, atm its just not fun going against someone using her...either they use down special and up special like those are her only moves...or after they start losing being legit they start spaming those moves 😭

[molten geyser]

Serious feedback: please add the other game modes (spotlight, splat, counter, volleyball, etc) to local multiplayer

Also give Iron Giant infinite fuel during infinite jump matches

[steep cloud]

bro whats the point of jumping when you get caught and pulled into everyones attacks its the most ridiculous thing

[foggy ether]

NERF GARNET GRAB FREE KILL

[heady agate]

N O.

[heady agate]

Yes, Definitely, ABSOLUTELY!

[eternal moon]

@heady agate about what

[heady agate]

Nerfing Tom and Jerry and Nerfing Harley Quinn

[trail fox]

Since we’re going into the new year, I might as well bring something back up that I mentioned before that genuinely irritates me:

Just because fighter road is a thing now didn’t mean you needed to remove any ways to get fighter currency at all. I don’t want to have to grind for multiple days just to get enough fighter road xp for 1 character when I could just use a bunch of spare fighter currency to get them instantly.

Simple solution: just make fighter currency and fighter road available together, and (just a personal idea) maybe make it so that instead of spare fighter road xp giving battle pass xp if you have everyone already, make it give fighter currency instead. That would, in my opinion, be the best possible solution.

[tiny shale]

What happened to being able to see your teammates perks before the round starts? How am I going to match the first perk with him without seeing it before locked

[sturdy dagger]

Just watching folks dodge mid attack animation, I'm sure it's fine 🙃

[jaunty salmon]

Please add account cosmetics to local play. Also keep fixing the matchmaking system and the unstable net code for everyone to enjoy.

[jaunty salmon]

Y'know in the Open Beta, you and your local friends can select their account cosmetics before matches. Please bring it back.

[molten geyser]

Things that are needed in local play:

• Per-player cosmetics (read: ringout fx)
• Other game modes

I want to play volleyball in locals

[jaunty salmon]

Exactly. We also need to include different game modes too.

[sturdy dagger]

Black Adam can wave 29% extra damage in duos btw, that's before weakened,which is still in the game....

[reef zinc]

I would appreciate it if Ranked skins weren't limited time offers.

Maybe if we get masters,diamond,platnium,gold with the character in a later season we can still receive the skins?

[foggy ether]

Same.
Master Skins for every character should already be in the game and unlocked when reaching a high character level.

There’s so many underutilized or fluff to the game that feels half baked.
Rifts feel this way to me. Something feels missing about them.
Player level feels meaningless.
Character level feels meaningless.
Unlimited tier for Battlepass feels meaningless.

I wish there was a “Character Mastery” instead of this ranked skin for the new character.

PFG look at this please

[lethal verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_PGp_7Zh4s

[heady agate]

So Player First Games, is it really that difficult to Nerf BUGS BUNNY UP AIR, NERF HARLEY QUINN, NERF CHARGING N-AIRS, NERFING TOM AND JERRY, ULTRA NERFING BLACK ADAM FOR GRIEFING & FOR HAVING THE SMALLEST EGO IN EXISTENCE and FINALLY ULTRA NERFING MASHMAN (BATMAN) ENTIRE MOVE KIT!! Nerfing his combo game, Easier Way to escape his jabs and Batarangs, out attacking his spamable moves, and make his cooldowns have a longer cooldown time like 20 - 30 seconds long for the Batarang/Bouncerang.

[willow cedar]

The Batman and Arya node in Trigon on the Loose rift in looney is so buggy
They get stuck in the middle so it's hard to hit neutrals for the objective star when they're stuck in the center jumping and dodging indefinitely, and since they cover half the stage when they attack, I can't find a way to actual dodge out of any hit without dying instantly

[sturdy dagger]

They did nerf Bugs....

Bugs is so dependent on bar now

[molten geyser]

I just saw that the Rogue Rift opens in two weeks: since the season ends on February 4, that leaves three weeks to get that elusive Jason skin.
I ran some numbers in the past to see how long it would take if you played one difficulty every day and won every time, before you get 300 chests. Playing exclusively on Looney difficulty would get you that many in 6 days, playing on Crushing would get you that many in 20 days, just barely under the deadline. Anything lower than that is a trap.

My feedback is this: never handle a FOMO event like this ever again. The event to get that elusive Agent Smith skin was already controversial, and that one lasted for two months.

[grizzled geode]

Theres no way on God's green earth should i continuously be paired with the person i blocked in rank. They suck.

I should not be throttled into matches were im gold. defeating and being defeated by master class or diamond ranks

[valid ginkgo]

Are we still working towards signature reworks??

[vale basalt]

Stripe SHOULD NOT be able to apply the aim debuff on you while you're shielding, i really hope this is not intentional and gets fixed soon

[sonic folio]

people have been complaining against fomo for a while and they have not done anything about it, it is here to stay

besides i am pretty sure this is mostly from WB's side of things more than pfg's

as the fanbases of their other games also have issues with the monetization

[gentle zinc]

Removing armor during that year break would've saved this game

combo system based on dodging while also having a defense system based on it I don't think was a great idea either. It definitely fits the theme of the characters but its not very good.

Though the hope we make it another year with this game is still there but playing against WW, Bman, and BA reminds me why nobody wants to play this game and why I don't want to play it sometimes despite being a founder and beta tester. If we had real combo structures and defense that balance and compliment one another to go alongside these "wacky" attacks people probably would've stayed. It really could've been the Free Cartoon Smash Bros but people shame and laugh at this game and its honestly just sad being a big fan of it.

I honestly think DC characters ruined this game (except raven) and Nubia ruined all the positive momentum the game had.

Finn is annoying but I feel like he's probably now one of the better characters balance wise now. He can use all the mechanics and well. Dash attack a little weird but still good

[versed sleet]

fighter road sucks

[queen ingot]

Yeah, honestly shoulda made the characters free from the get go. Skins are supposed to be where you get your money from, but if no one owns the characters, noone is buying the skins.

[normal adder]

I came back to the game after a few months and almost every round I suffer from lag spikes

[gentle zinc]

I dont have a problem with this but probably.

[foggy ether]

Why the heck BG kill so easy compared to everyone else?

[foggy ether]

Y'all need to Buff Jack

Seriously

[upper aspen]

I will just leaving the game. They will never nerf shaggy, jason, and jack...
they will never fix basic bugs in the menu, 2 minutes to start 1 game, when I finish the bp I will leave hoping they will add ben 10.

[gentle zinc]

Jason doesn't need a nerf and neither does Jack. They need to not have cartoony jank hitboxes

Shaggy idk but he's definitely annoying

[upper aspen]

jason throw me with 50 dmg in the corner of the floor with 1 attack but when I make him a combo with 120 dmg and does nothing. samurai jack permastun and attack very fast after dash.
shaggy idk too

[gentle zinc]

Well he's heavy you likely aren't gonna kill him with 120 unless you're playing wonder woman or batman or banana guard

[gentle zinc]

Samurai Jack I'm a little confused

[upper aspen]

oh jason main propaganda.

[gentle zinc]

😂

[gentle zinc]

He's not op he's okay against some characters

[vale basalt]

Where is the new event? I'm still completing the missions of it, and i even leveled up it, but i can't get the rewards because the event isn't showing up for me.

[slate jetty]

lol, I was like whats going on......honestly...I wouldnt be doing the missions if I were you...knowing PFG it'll glitch doing them before the event is live

[timid steeple]

New event isn’t even showing up in game…..

[slate jetty]

yea :\

[lusty sparrow]

wheres the event missions..

[reef zinc]

Can I not lose RP for disconnecting if the game's going to crash while I'm queuing?

[vale basalt]

I lost RP from disconnect by losing the first set a bit earlier today. And now i won the first set and right after that i disconnected too, and guess what? NO RP GAIN 💀 . Those disconnect issues are mostly happening in 2v2, at least in my case.

[digital dust]

They need to remove the grind for fighters/pay for fighters formula as it ruins the experience for new players to play the game and even less incentive to buy skins for the characters they want

[steep cloud]

Lebron needs buffs #1 every update y'all nerf him my heart cannot take anymore betrayal, please stop nerfing him

Also please give us access to buy Clark Kent skin please it's Christmas 🎄

Love, avoel

[blissful garden]

I'm literally begging here to spend money on your game please give me access to buy Clark Kent skin for superman

[next tinsel]

Bro what the hell is the reach on Jason's axe and armored grab?

[worldly grove]

It sucks wanting to root for mvs because the roster is really good and getting better and everybody feels like they fit into a platform fighter well but damn are these hitboxes ever going to be fixed? the game has been out so long and we just keep getting 30$ skins instead

[foggy ether]

When I brought this up I was scolded because apparently his hurtbox extends even beyond his grab range… lol

[next tinsel]

It doesn't, I've missed him while he grabbed me and I at least hit his hand

[sturdy dagger]

In Duos Batman and Jack still has weakened, in duos that means:

JASON with weakened
SUPERMAN with WEAKENED
Arya
Finn

ECT,ECT, ECT

Please remove it sooner than later.

[willow cedar]

There's gotta be someway to not give players disconnect penalties when they get kicked due to losing connection, I'm so tired of being in a game for 2 seconds, getting kicked, then sitting there for 5 minutes to matchmake again

[gentle magnet]

how am i supposed to play laggy cause the server wants? this game sucks so hard

[void hazel]

Please put the "Player first" in Player first games, or change your name to "Player last Games"

Im not happy how the game has turned into so much greed which covers the games genuine creativity.

[sonic folio]

i am more than sure that this is on wb's side of things and not pfg

[void hazel]

Who knows, can’t justify it anyway.

[sonic folio]

just by judgin every other wb game and their monetization issues, im sure its them

mk1 fans are also dealing with similar stuff

[blissful garden]

Please let me spend money on your game by allowing me to buy Clark Kent skin for superman

[foggy ether]

Rt. And even IF you do you hit him he has Armor. So… yeah. Its a just a huge hitbox with long range for a stalky guy.

[next tinsel]

With an air attack no less, so in most situations you'll never be able to knock him out of it, super fun

[sturdy dagger]

Imagine Bugs had four pies on stage, and his teammate can passively capture and shoot them back out. They don't disappear when they hit someone they just stay out to be thrown again....

[slate jetty]

Remember when Bugs Bunnys Pies had cooldown?....Pepperidge Farm remembers...

(sorry old meme but relevant in this context)

[sturdy dagger]

Was talking about LeBron's balls.

Bugs' can only have one pie on screen. Bron can have four balls that he and his partner can keep active.

[slate jetty]

yeah its dumb that he can just keep them on the screen and touch a person to get another ball
4 is way to much....i'd say 2 is to many in some..most stages

whats the point of him having a cooldown on the ball if he can just...touch you for a free one

still Bugs pies are kinda dumb too...can throw them so slow they go backwards lol

[sturdy dagger]

I think two is the perfect amount, like just two. Can only get another one if a ball is deleted and you have to wait a bit.

[steep cloud]

Lebron buffs needed;
-balls multi hit
-balls duration increase
-balls bigger hotbox
-faster ball throws
-balls velocity increase
-more iframes in his dodge

🙏👌🏀

[sturdy dagger]

Bugs is a set-up counterplay character. It's to stop people from just running in at him.

(His moves are too sluggish and low priority to actually capitalize on mistakes, but that's the intent)

[slate jetty]

LOOOL thats beautiful

watch them actually see this and take it seriously

[steep cloud]

That's the plan 🙏

[slate jetty]

i's say only his ground natural is slugish with a bad Hitbox (due to him move forward enough for it to just strait whiff)...I think the rest is pretty fast and some have some...questionable hitboxes in his favor

though bugs isnt my style, ground down natural for pie throws me off (im use to strait attacks)

[sturdy dagger]

No, a lot of his moves will straight up get beat out by everyone. I wouldn't mind the lower priority it was actually fast. But Bugs will just sit there even on hit, like I've been punished for hitting people.

[slate jetty]

I was sure his spike (dair) and Uair beat out a lot of moves

[sturdy dagger]

Dair traded negatively with Batman slide of all things.

Up air is fine, wish it was a little more forward and deflected projectiles. (It just looks like it does)

[slate jetty]

well, Batman is a bad comparison...hes buffed to hell and back now..all his moves have like the highest priority ever

i've seen his side special (grapple hook dash frames) trade with with IG side special 😐

[sturdy dagger]

Batman might be perfect

[slate jetty]

🤣

[lofty beacon]

So when we gonna get our frame data?

[sand robin]

I hate missions 🤬! I login, play modes I don't want to play, characters I don't want to play, focusing on doing specific actions I don't wanna have to do, and by the time I'm done I don't want to play anymore. I log out, unsatisfied, wishing I could've just played the character I wanted to play in the mode I wanted to play...

[stuck sable]

You lost a lot more players by adding shields than you gained. I hope the people making this game and the people paying them to make this game realizes that.

[stuck sable]

This matchmaking system is so bad. This game is so trash. No wonder everyone is jumping ship

This is a terrible game and nobody should play it ever

If you want this crappy game to actually make any money and actually retain new players you should make all characters free and halve the cost of microtransactions so people actually feel its worth wasting money on this garbage

Also if I have literally cancelled out against the same goddamn discord duo master team when I am plat V 4 GODDAMN TIMES, DON'T GODDAMN PUT ME AGAINST THE SAME GODDAMN DISCORD DUO YOU BRAINLESS MORONS

God I hate this stupid game

Also your menu music is TRASH
Who the hell thought people want to sit around listening to goddamn sleepy ass classical music in a FIGHTING GAME

You don't even bother to update it for special events and crap

man this game is so low effort

[lusty sparrow]

i think MVS should do weekends where all characters are free. they already do a free rotation of 4 characters each week. on the weekends make them all available to play with.

[stuck sable]

No they should all be free, if they want an active playerbase that is.

You know what will make new players leave right away after starting a game?
If the character that got them interested in playing the game is expensive as all hell to play or requires a shitton of grinding to get. The devs for this game are the dumbest MF's I swear

that or their exectives are the dumbest greediest jews on the goddamn planet

[sonic folio]

they cant be free for legal reasons im sure, since people already have paid real money for characters

unless they are willing to refund in one way or another what was paid, i dont see it happening

[severe tiger]

Characters fall off the map after you win not sure if this is where you send bugs

[blissful garden]

I play this game just for superman and hes my main I play him all the time, but some of his moves whiffs misses even when they visually connect.

1- His air side and air down jabs misses point blank against middle to small characters . This problem occurs most of times usually against middle to smaller characters.

2- His lasers are inconsistent most of the times they connect, but sometimes the characters aren't affected by it at all.

3- Against middle to smaller characters in ground his netural and upper jabs miss hitting them when they visually land. It happens especially against smaller characters model.

Please fix superman hitboxes or improve the characters hit model especially the middle weight and smaller models since superman can literally miss against them point blank even when it visually lands.

[stuck sable]

This game deserves to be forgotten forever for all the absurdly stupid design decisions maximizimg player frustration

Christ I hate this game

I despise the ranked matchmaking system. I hope whoever made this crap never gets work in the game's industry ever again

[stuck sable]

I really hope the developers realize that all that time spent working on shields despite all the people saying they did not want it was a COMPLETE waste of development resources and brought in ZERO new players because literally nobody thinks this was an interesting new feature. It's a crap smash rip-off move, it's complete confirmation that your development team are talentless hacks.

All this time you wasted making this crap feature nobody wanted would have been much better spent on literally anything else, like maybe making a matchmaking system that isn't complete cancer.

All the people working on adding shields to this game, ultimately doomed this game to die into obscurity as a forgetable and bad Smash bootleg.

[fickle thistle]

Done with this game I gave shields a chance for 2 weeks and I hate the mechanic it slows down the game even more and punishes u for playing aggressively and completely kills that game style

Also the game just keeps performing worse and worse every patch on PlayStation with constant load issues and visual bugs and the pc version for me is littered with constant crashes

[next trellis]

Please, please buff Jake and nerf Samurai Jack’s special down air — it has a ridiculous amount of knockback

[cinder bluff]

Just make all the characters free and compensate those who bought them.
Just let the costumes cost money or maybe have some be obtained via challenges.

[blissful garden]

I play this game just for superman and hes my main I play him all the time, but some of his moves whiffs misses even when they visually connect.

1- His air side and air down jabs misses point blank against middle to small characters . This problem occurs most of times usually against middle to smaller characters.

2- His lasers are inconsistent most of the times they connect, but sometimes the characters aren't affected by it at all.

3- Against middle to smaller characters in ground his netural and upper jabs miss hitting them when they visually land. It happens especially against smaller characters model.

Please fix superman hitboxes or improve the characters hit model especially the middle weight and smaller models since superman can literally miss against them point blank even when it visually lands.

Also guys elusive is a stupid idea. Here I am ready to buy a superman skin only to learn that skin couldn't be bought anymore.

[sonic folio]

i really want this to happen, but its wb we are talking about 😭

[opal gate]

THIS!!! This would be so good, new players who joined because of a certain character could play that character without having to unlock EVERYONE before them and they could actually focus on selling cosmetics to get money instead of the whole 3 day character thing we got

[west smelt]

We need to give more support to the PS4 system of MultiVersus. I had to log back onto there because I needed to get some stuff squared away, and the lag is absolutely abysmal. I tried to play a level in the MVS University rift with the PowerPuffs, and the game lags so bad that it would put Fallout 76 to shame.

[lusty sparrow]

PFG try this. make it so all characters are available to play on weekends. like how 4 characters are temporary unlocked each week with the character rotation, temporary unlock em all on weekends. might bring in new players. and make weekends more busy.

[lucid delta]

One of the recent tourneys had 3 Harleys in Top 8. If that isn’t proof enough that she needs to be nerfed, then I dunno what is.

[blissful garden]

Please for the love of God test your own game and check your own rank system. Has anyone play tested the new rank system and tried to climb to rank?

Because this rank system is the most agonizing time sink torturing mode that honestly killed all the joy I had playing this game.

Please please please play and test your own game, your choices every season just deters new players and the trust you have for the existing players.

[flint plinth]

Why is wonder woman just allowed to spam her stupid Nair. It's safe as hell because for some reason it needs armor breaking?!? It's a multihit ffs. Characters like Jason just get neutered by her because Haha funny nair go brrrrr

At least make it have more end lag because every wonder woman I encounter does the same thing over and over and over (not to mention it melts shields because again...armor breaking multihit)

[prime bane]

This is as designed. Whether the devs had final say or not, that's another discussion. But the goal for any game, especially free2plays, is to force user playtime sky high. Nonsensical MMR, low win RP gain, high loss RP decrease, etc. It's all a part of the intended slow crawl to keep you playing. Because for all the people that whine and hate on these obvious, low effort shenanigans, just as many will keep playing after they cool off and get the itch. I agree with you, but I promise it will NEVER change. Our options are to quit playing or suffer. And 9.9 times out of 10... gamers are masochists.

[blissful garden]

That design truly killed whatever joy I had for this game even if I reach master in this season I'm skipping the next one and might not come back period. This rank system flushed any happiness goodwill I had for this game wining gives ya 6 to 9 points while losing takes from 13 to 19 points isn't fun but absolutely agonizing the player trying to climb for the skins.

You can see many players who feel absolutely tired and done from this game just because of it just from this chat alone scrolling up. It truly did it's job for me I'm not playing next season.

[prime bane]

Not playing next season? I hope that's true. Stick to your guns. Many people often make the same claim; last season and the season before. Yet season after season I see them in the cords and on the subreddits, complaining. Again, I don't disagree. PFG is anything but player first. They're obviously an understaffed muppet with a Warner Bros. hand between their cheeks, hunting for whales and gobbling up all the munnies they can until the player base falls into the next trap. But they release appealing characters season after season and play on our fomo. They're scumbags, but smart scumbags. If half of the people that claimed they would quit actually quit... the game would either be dead or (marginally) better by now. Hold strong, brother.

[cyan patrol]

@prime bane @blissful garden Just an FYI. When ranked was released it was pure MMR and accurate RP win and loss per match. People complained it was too hard to rank up and get the rank skins so they slightly increased RP awarded and slightly decreased RP lost in favor of the players. You're actually earning more RP and losing less RP than you really should which also results in people being higher rank than they really are.

[prime bane]

Whatever changes they've implemented, it remains very difficult to rank up enough to get the special skin. While the RP totals have changed, what didn't change was that a loss net more RP removal than a win grants RP gain. The main problem remains.

As far as MMR goes, I can't even see my total MMR, even on the tracker sight. Or they intentionally make it hard to find. All around, the game is poorly managed, and their half-hearted "fixes" have yet to help that.

[eternal moon]

Finn is to fast nerf

Yall still didn't fix s**** and this game.this game is going to fall off because this game have characters over power that shouldn't be fix it

And faster

Take iron gaint out the game

Switch Harley side spaciel and buff her this is starting to get annoying how people stronger and faster that shouldn't be why is she a light hitter stupid

[next trellis]

Why is lebron so insanely strong? What sense does it make that a basketball player can cause fires, teleport, fly, spawn 20+ balls in 1 minute, and is never subject to techs? It’s unreal how annoying it is to play against this skill-less cancerous character

[next trellis]

they need a bigger budget

[nocturne stream]

can we make the stop camping effect work faster say to trips from the edge of the stage?

it's still way to easy to just run away and throw projectals

[next trellis]

it’s funny how TnJ, shaggy, black adam, lebron, and garnet are untouchable when it comes to nerfs but other characters are made outright unusable with theirs (jake)

[eternal moon]

Fix this game

GIVE HARLEY A BUFF

[nocturne stream]

harley does not need one with her slippery movement and really good aerials

[eternal moon]

@nocturne stream Yes she does they have characters stronger than her that is not supposed to be and faster.why is she a light hitter stupid

@nocturne stream this game give everybody that doesn't need a buff and buff

She does need one

[slate jetty]

again, as i told you and as others have as well....this does not mean she needs a BUFF...it means other characters need a NERF...

if you sit there and buff characters because there are other characters that are stronger (or broken) then its a never ending cycle of buffs...called "power creep" which kills games a lot of the time

evilbart made a very good point about her #game-feedback message

A recent tourney had 3 Harleys in Top 8. thats pretty telling

[eternal moon]

@slate jetty they aren't doing any changing of the brocken powee level matter as well make everyone broken

[slate jetty]

thats a terrible idea..

[eternal moon]

@slate jetty I know but it will make every one equal

[tulip bison]

The Winter variants of Shaggy and Velma from the current event should be tagged as "Winter Wonderland" so that their use isn't inefficient for EXP during the event.

[lament dome]

Please allow me to buy shark hat shaggy at some point in the future, or bring back the daily login and have him be in it please (minor request I know but still)

[sonic folio]

i've seen some people say that it's apparently an elusive skin, it might not come back for a while

[lament dome]

Thought it was uncommon

[sonic folio]

i thought so to, but i remember some people back then mention it showed as elusive after the elusives inteoduction

cant confirm as i dont own it, but a friend does, so i can ask for confirmation

[lament dome]

Looks uncommon in the mission where you can use him (it’s volleyball though so I hate it)

[sonic folio]

yeah thats why i think of that comment being weird

[lament dome]

Huh, thought that was only matrix code smith

[sonic folio]

but it could track since it doesnt show in store or buy it, it has all the characteristics

[lament dome]

As I’ve looked into that one and it did change apparently

[lament dome]

Matrix code shaggy wasn’t in the shop for awhile either though and he was brought in recently

Kinda recently

[sonic folio]

oh nice

[lament dome]

Yeah haven’t bought yet but I want to

[sonic folio]

it would suck that an elusive was random chance for a daily log in

[lament dome]

Exactly

[sonic folio]

but at the same time, that kinda will happen with the future jason skin so...

[lament dome]

Ah

It’s also annoying because at the time it happened it gave me hats for characters I couldn’t play that good

And I ended up buying Superman’s but that failed just as bad so after that I had gotten banana guard’s

[sonic folio]

i got lucky to get 2 characters i was good with

[lament dome]

Ah

The one I was using the most before I got banana guard was bugs but that wasn’t exactly the best especially when it was against shark hat Batman

Also had iron giant but well.. yeah

probably could have had a better time if I used Harley at the time maybe, she’s, decent, but yeah it’s awful lol and I would like it

[olive pier]

Nerf Batman. Like really nerf him. Stop being lazy about it. There is no way I shield and still get bomb planted on me. What is wrong with this game

[slate jetty]

its the way the bomb works, the shield doesnt block status effects (such as ice and other stackable effects). seems they way they made the batbomb is a "status effect" thus still aplied to the character even in shield

[zealous lion]

I will probably will make a bigger reddit post explaining this, but the biggest problem with fighter road right now is that you don't feel the bar filling. Like unless when you get 1k fighter road xp, you LITERALLY don't see the bar moving and that gives more bad feelings than good feelings. And yes, it can be partially be fixed with how big the bar appears on the screen, but the game WILL have to decrease the amount of XP required for the character at least a little or else to make the bar appear to increase in ways that makes our lizard brain happy, else it will need to increase to comically large size. And if you don't fix this, this will hurt player redemption because seeing bars getting filled is one of the reasons that some people play these types of games

[foggy ether]

Which is dumb btw

[slate jetty]

which part, the bomb being a status effect?

you'd be surprised how many games do things like that because its "easier"

[foggy ether]

That status effects apply even when blocked

[slate jetty]

I can see that, but counter point. its another way to get through shields. people complain about them being difficult to deal with and things like that.
despite it not blocking the bomb aplling to you, you can block the blast..easily timed too

[foggy ether]

But two wrongs don’t make a right

[slate jetty]

but for instance ice being apllied is actually nice, because if the person whats to sit there in shield just freeze them 🤷‍♂️

[olive pier]

Even if they sit there, the bar depletes. They can’t do it forever. There’s also the shield break attacks. We don’t need the “status effects” to stop shield abusers. But hey, it is what it is.

[slate jetty]

yeah, true. I like shields myself

though there is a shield break its only grounded, so say they are on a platform and shield its actually harder to punish them if you arent on that platform already

unless you have a character with an air grab...or bugs or marvin 😛

[spare iris]

Tip for the hitbox devs:

Moves in fighting games have 3 big parts:

Startup frames
Active frames
Recovery frames

Hitboxes should only be active during the active frames of a move

Not during startup
Not during recovery

Aka Shaggy's w/e attack shouldn't hit me during him winding up his punch, only when he releases the force and straightens out his arm

[spare iris]

Mvs dev talk hypothetical reenaction

"Hey we're bleeding players, wat do?"

"Oh oh I know an abysmal gacha mode you wouldn't even wanna do in coop"

" Nailed it, let's grab lunch!"

I just can't with these devs

[steep cloud]

We need visual + stronger attack decay especiall;y if yall gonna keep introducing single button characters

[mossy hill]

dude i tried in training mode

attack decay only work to that 1 move that u spammed

which kinda stupid

consider u can swap into other moves

and dealt same damage without attack decay

also attack decay didnt count into projectile

like seirously

attack decay just lower knockback

and lower damage

[willow cedar]

I've been asking since season 1
But it'd be great if the ally bot AI could match the enemy bot's AI in difficulties above Crushing.
I find it annoying that they die in 2 hits or even spawn with 70 damage

[sturdy dagger]

Infinite Tier..... 50 perk currency and battle pass xp

Both useless to me 😐

Maybe it's fighter road xp? But I have everyone and finished battle pass.

the game should know that, know not to offer something useless.

[blissful garden]

1- Improve the cel shading and lighting to this game and it's models have it be more vibrant and colorful cartoonist style.

2- Please improve the maps and refine them. Don't make them too annoying to move, too big or too narrow. Have some major background movements in those maps as well to make the maps look less stale. You could also have some gimmicks depending on each map and background.

3- Please focus on improving your user interface. This UI needs a major remake. Adapt to expressive vibrant style of cartoonish art to it.

4- Focus only on one battle pass per season. Having two separate battle passes with more shallow repetitive rewards like badges and perk exp isn't rewarding.

5- Improve your rank system. I'm being honest here and not exaggerating that spending 30 hours just to climb from division one to master was the most depressing time I had playing any game. It's not rewarding to win only a meger amount like 6 to 8 points while losing 14 to 19 at a loss.

6- Improve Fighter Road by giving the players the choice to choose who they grind for. Give new players instant access to at least 5 characters of their own choosing or just make em all free from start.

7- Give more access for player to communicate and form connections in game. In game chats, game voice chats, guild system, worldwide chat box.

8- Elusive skins are just pointless please remove them. Returning and new players who might be interested in spending money on your game for those skins won't be able to buy them. Prime example myself. I'd love to buy the superman Clark Kent skin but can't.

9- Improve Rift by removing unnecessary difficulty levels and rift gems. Give unique rewards like gelimum and skins for completing rift stories to entice players to play them. Let us matchmake in rift so we can form a party easier to play together.

10- please Improve your hitmodels and hitboxes. Many characters still attack from behind. My superman hitboxes can whiff against small models.

[prime bane]

No. 5 1,000,000%. It's more than just winning and losing giving unreasonable reward and penalty. The MMR, which is hidden (even on tracker.gg for many), is complete trash. The rank system in this game is obviously designed to be a time sink with the ONLY good ranked skin dangling like a carrot allllll the way over there in masters. If somebody plays against an opponent whose character rank far exceeds their own and wins, they should receive a massive RP boost. Like in any other fighting game of note. The MMR excuse is lame and a slap in the face to people who don't have time to play a single subpar smash clone 24/7. PFG is trash.

[olive pier]

Why is iron giant so good. O to death combos easy and with the dumb auto tech feature it gets worse. Don’t even have to be good bro. Just spam the same thing over and over then spinning car to finish guarantee because he can fly with it too. What a great character. Then it takes at least 300+ damage to kill him. Crazy how you guys nerf ppg, a newer character but not IG. I’m confused guys. What’s going on?

[mossy hill]

Lil did u know IG got crap tons nerf and he still can do jack sht and kill everyone just by spamming

[olive pier]

I did, that’s the problem.

In all honesty it’s just too much inconsistencies in this game for it to be truly enjoyable. Hitboxes and active/recovery frames is a huge one.

Then there’s Harley Quinn. My goodness. Can’t punish anything now unless you shield her dash attacking. Ggs PFG. Your game is dead 😂

[mossy hill]

Oh wanna know something dumb

Morty can punish shield with down tilt

Completedly

[slate jetty]

he can also crouch and negate quite a lot of moves..like shaggy kick, and a few others dash attacks (probably other moves to but thats what I've seen)

like he just crouches and the opponent will stop at him like they hit a wall with him not being effected at all

[olive pier]

Guess it’s time to play Morty. Sad no one can have fun anymore in this game

[next trellis]

why does batman’s ground down tilt do more damage than jakes most special move (nair x2)? it makes literally no sense at all.

jake is unusable, he has nearly no good moves at all yet all of batman’s moves are OP and good

[mossy hill]

Im still just using velma entire game till now

[mossy hill]

Well insert velma where they gutted the van again

[sturdy dagger]

Not really, a lot of characters can just carry him off. Or wumbo him indefinitely.

IG can do damage if he touches you, but a lot of his moves are pretty interruptible.

[mossy hill]

True but its just straight annoying

[next trellis]

velma is much more usable than jake is

[sturdy dagger]

That's also true

[olive pier]

Velma can work against the top tiers though. Hard but doable. If you’re a bruiser, gg’s

[mossy hill]

tbh tnj is better version of velma lol

[mossy hill]

yeee

[mossy hill]

its hard AF

[twin river]

Can you please remove the continuous active hitbox from in front of Tom while he's doing the up attack paddleball?
It feels so poor to have the move exist for so long, and if I attempt to punish it on the ground, it still hits and lifts me above Tom's head.
The hitbox lingering above Tom's head makes sense, but not for one to linger from in front of Tom's midsection after the paddleball has been active for 1 second already.

[spare iris]

yes it's FRXP that get auto converted
terrible system

[viral echo]

They really have to fix the internet online bugs

[olive pier]

Agreed 👍🏽. Solid point, I hope they listen

[keen obsidian]

Can you fix the thing that allows you to upgrade your gems. Say for example I want to upgrade my horror gems, but some are already maxed out, while others aren’t. I tried to purchase it, but it just gives me purchase error. Thank you in advance.

[next trellis]

why is lebrons ball able to kill you at 54 damage? what a joke character

[supple depot]

When you land a shield break it should also drain stamnia, you do get the one oppronunity but the opprtunity cost of landing a shield break isn't worth the commitment since they can often drop frame to not get hit and even if they do get hit they can still shield and try to push another shieldbreak option. The reward cost of gaurdbreaks doesn't seem strong enough reward the commitment to the move against a shield.

[quasi geyser]

haven't been able to join an event match for a week. I have four event damage mission daily and a weekly

[quasi geyser]

I agree. And possibly have the damage to shields carry over from one to the next, with high commitment attack characters it can be frustrating to have opponents simply wait out them all and start up a fresh shield evert time

[supple depot]

yea also when an oppenent does drop shields or shields under a platform making the punish not as bad leading to shield being too good of an option for the move specifically meant to counter it, which is just silly since people can often react to it or throw a move out of shield to beat it.

[supple depot]

Specifically it would be nice if landing a gaurd break took half stamina away to give some reward and push advantage for punishing a shield. that would be a good buff to shield breakers. also it feels tremndously awful when they just bounce on the platform above from a gaurd break and get away with just 1% and no stamina punish

[quasi geyser]

also, if you are in the air and they shield there's very little you can do. you can't really break the shield until you land, so they basically get free shots at you while you do

[eternal moon]

Why is my hits going through the opponent

[olive pier]

Alright, let’s address the elephant in the room. Why is it you can’t go through platforms while either holding down or pressing down twice? Why is it down+jump? Does not make sense. Please PFG. Stop this madness 😭

[quasi geyser]

to stop you from falling through every time you duck or perform a drop attack i assume

[eternal moon]

Take away garnet neutral in the air

She doesn't need it

F*** are yall doing with this game.Yall are on the bullsh** with this power level

[eternal moon]

Upgrade Harley

[quasi geyser]

she really needs it. also, it's not been enough to overcome the server problems i'm having

[eternal moon]

@quasi geyser i know right

[quasi geyser]

..to be clear, i mean she needs her air neutral

it was a counterpoint to you saying she doesn't need it

although, if it helps, harley outranges her in a number of posions ad has MUCH better sweep coverage. garnet strikes at precse angles while harley can loop aound them

[eternal moon]

Who garnet

[quasi geyser]

yeah

it's one of her only good edgeguard tools, for one

[eternal moon]

Garnet air neutral is cheating, you can reverse and still get hit by it

[quasi geyser]

i've had the same problem many times with harley's wide hammer swings

[eternal moon]

Harley u can easy doge but the air neutral take up a lot to she already strong

@quasi geyser are switch her air neutral to something else

[quasi geyser]

harley's an ace denial character and an expert at weaving around attacks. garnet's powerful, but easy to hit. and she needs her air neutral for a buch of combos and situations

[eternal moon]

Harley is the lightest hitter. Garnet is already strong u know how high she hit u up in the air with that move it is crazy

And it kills sometimes to that is how high she will hit u up

[quasi geyser]

how familiar are you with playing harley?

[eternal moon]

About Mid way

[quasi geyser]

harley's strength is in multi-hits to oerwhelm. her down attack can intterupt most things and follow up with another attack, (while convinently sliding under most projectiles) her dash breaks armour easy and her charged up-attack catches almost anything from the air. hit a bomb on an enemy, ladder them, and they either either panic or die. and sh's an excellent juggler too

you don't need strong attacks if you're the only one who GETS to attack

[eternal moon]

Harley side move comes out slow .people can destroy her mostly all her spaciel. I just was going up against a garnet the only thing she was doing to get a win was the up air neutral in spamming the hand bullet

Why is she faster than Harley crazy sometimes garnet will be on red and be still be taking alot of hits and hammer attack

[quasi geyser]

..how do you spam that? it's a cooldown move

[eternal moon]

They do the up neutral run around and do side kick to knock u back far than they do it

How can u still fight and still control the hand gun

[quasi geyser]

that... doesn't work. the move takes a VERY long time to load. and the gun takes manual aiming. what rank is this garnet?

[eternal moon]

Platinum

[quasi geyser]

hmm...

[eternal moon]

That's why Harley needs some upgrades with her spaciel it shouldn't be that all her spaciel can get taken over or destroyed that is annoying sometimes

[quasi geyser]

harley's strengths are fighting people overhead and below. it sounds like the garnet is deliberatly keeing you outside your best spacing.... also, your down slide attack should really help you slip past most of this

[gentle magnet]

just learn jab (x2) > iad > sair > sair > slide >sair > sair and ur done with harley 👍

[eternal moon]

Slide attack doesn't work most go right through her they have to fix that bug.in the behind hitting if u are behind them

[quasi geyser]

back on feedback, my opponent's shields aren't showing. not sure why

[eternal moon]

Fix some of the characters strength because some characters needs a huge nerf

[quasi geyser]

superman's flying grab

[gentle magnet]

idk why but the servers seems to really s*ck rn, everytiem i try to bubble myself or dodge in the frame my enemies are about to attack me i always hear the sound of the dodge (or the harley itself smiling after dodge move) but my character seems to "fail" her dodge move and i get insanely gapped by that 😭

[quasi geyser]

yeah, i can't join event matches at all, my opponents don't show their shields and sometiems i just teleport halfway acrss the stage.

i also have a very tough time dodging any and all grapples.

[gentle magnet]

parrying some moves in the air became harder too cause of that, kinda sucks

i had no issues against taz before cause i know the timing of parrying his tornados, but now its completely different

[quasi geyser]

also, i think it's delaying shield breakers, because whenever i try to pull them off i either get a normal combo or a shield

i was fine with shields until this, see above for a bit of a rant on how they're now a problem

i'm FAIRLY certain the servers aren't moving at even speeds

[eternal moon]

Why do yall make weapon scratch so far out come on

[ionic furnace]

scratch?

[eternal moon]

@ionic furnace It will still bring u into it

Even tho u didn't get hit by it

[ionic furnace]

i think thats just bad hitboxes

[eternal moon]

Yeah it is

[steep cloud]

3rd day in a row playing against spamming Nubias making me play a different game 🤷‍♂️

[undone tulip]

Hello good afternoon, my game is not opening, it says "this account cannot play online matches" even though I even bought the pass

I've had this problem for 3 days and nothing so far

[north rune]

Funny thing is when this game bombs and finally shuts down. The devs will blame the community xD

[sonic folio]

what is your age in your account?

i've seen a few people mention having the wrong age (younger i think) and that is why they cant

[gloomy light]

Photo mode would be nice.

[next trellis]

Why does Batman never get hardcore nerfed? Or Gatnet or Lebron, yet other characters like PPG or Jake do?

[mossy hill]

Ppg still has 0td btw

[supple depot]

batman also just recently got nerfed a bunch

[slate jetty]

what was nerfed?

[supple depot]

a lot of his combo potential and hitboxes got greatly nerfed, he is not nearly as strong as he used to be and his moves aren't nearly as strong

[supple depot]

The more i play around with shieldbreaker the less it feels like an actual threat to sheilds. if you actually predict the shield and throw out a shieldbreaker but it's too early it's just one hit and nothing else, shielders can roll or attack out of shield in reaction and beat or trade with it with no other punishment. even when you land it sometimes it will situationally bounce them on a platform above taking a whole 1% and nothing else. It's way too inconsitent to be an actual threat with some characters.
It's just not fun throwing out a risky move and to be paid off with minimal reward or even end up in disadvantagous situations after getting the read and landing a shield breaker properly. Landing a shield break def needs to have some more thing like draining half stamina the way the platform thing does. that way if you and land and flub the combo (which is very easy to do and the better the player the more often they can position themselves to make shieldbreaks do little even when landing) you still get some kind of advantage.
Right now the risk reward for shieldbreaker against shield (the thing it's meant to counter) is rarly worth it and often even when trying to use it against a shield doesn't work well.

[prime bane]

Ranked is bad. Don't dangle a good skin at masters and then have trash ranking mechanics. PFG is terrible.

[eternal moon]

Nerf lebron james

Is lebron lose his best while he shouldn't get it back

If lebron james loses his basketballs, he shouldn't get it back so

[spare iris]

we had a season where "silence an enemy once" didn't work with Rick, only with Gizmo

1-2 seasons later, same mission, still bugged the same way

does anybody test this ?

like I'm not asking for a 12/10 game here but please devs at least make the bare minimum work

it not working makes the game tedious to play

some missions don't unlock
some rift stars can't be earned or are bugged

it all adds up to being hyper frustrating

[eternal moon]

Arya needs a nerf

Yall have to fix it

When Superman keep on using his stronger attack, it should take some hit Dodge meter up

They like to spam it

Make Harley faster

Fix dame game

[eternal moon]

Take away finn speed he doesn't need it why would yall boost his speed

Harley needs the speed and strength

[blissful garden]

It does take meter dodge

1- Improve the cel shading and lighting to this game and it's models have it be more vibrant and colorful cartoonist style.

2- Please improve the maps and refine them. Don't make them too annoying to move, too big or too small. Have some major background movements in those maps as well to make the maps look less stale. You could also have some gimmicks depending on each map and background.

3- Please focus on improving your user interface. This UI needs a major remake. Adapt to expressive vibrant style of cartoonish art to it.

4- Focus only on one battle pass per season. Having two separate battle passes with repetitive rewards like badges and perk exp isn't rewarding.

5- Improve your rank system. I'm being honest here and not exaggerating that spending 30 hours just to climb from division one to master was the most depressing time I had playing any game. It's not rewarding to win only a meger amount like 6 to 8 points while losing 14 to 19 at a loss.

6- Improve Fighter Road by giving the players the choice to choose who they grind for. Give new players instant access to at least 5 characters of their own choosing or just make em all free from start.

7- Give more access for player to communicate and form connections in game. game chats, game voice chats, guild system, worldwide chat box.

8- Elusive skins are just pointless please remove them. Returning and new players who might be interested in spending money for those skins won't be able to buy them. Prime example myself, I'd love to buy the superman Clark Kent skin but can't .

9- Improve Rift by removing unnecessary difficulty levels and rift gems. Give unique rewards like gelimum and skins for completing rift stories to entice players to play them. Let us matchmake in rift so we can form a party easier to play together.

10- please Improve your hitmodels and hitboxes. Many characters still attack from behind. My superman hitboxes can whiff against small models.

11- please refrine shield it's hard punishing ppl who spam their combos then use their shield repeatedly. Have a time limit of shield activation and please add a way to destroy shield faster in ground and in air.

[heady agate]

https://tenor.com/view/yeonjwn-ren-and-stimpy-gif-23776482

Every time I enter Ranked and Get Matched Up a Batman, Harley Quinn, Tom and Jerry, STEVEN UNIVERSE, & Black Adam Main that Does that Same Thing Over and Over Again:⬆️

[heady agate]

https://tenor.com/view/ren-and-stimpy-ren-stimpy-stimpy's-invention-strangle-gif-10338159166453175707

When I’m about to reach my limit with these Mashers and Spammers of This Game:⬆️

[slate jetty]

🤣

[next trellis]

he is still just as strong, nothing significant has changed

[next trellis]

ppg was useless last patch btw. has batman ever been useless? ever? his ground down tilt is a guaranteed 12+ damage

[supple depot]

he got signifgant changes at elast enough to not be nearly one of the best characters right now

[next trellis]

i disagree, i think he’s easily one of the best characters. i go up against so many batman’s daily

is the game completely broken for anyone else? matchmaking keeps taking an eternity and i can’t cancel, also can’t exit the game for some reason. i legitimately cannot play the game because it keeps happening. i restarted my pc and everything g

[tulip bison]

That just happened to me too, it acted like I was in matchmaking but the count wasn't up. Think the game's just messed up right now.

Moreso than usual at least.

[next trellis]

it’s unusual, this bug happens to me maybe 1-2x daily but right now it’s happening 100% of the time when i try to start matches. I’m playing on Steam btw

[tulip bison]

Also agree on Batman still being obnoxious, feels like he gets three hits per hit at times.

[next trellis]

Right? and the damage+knockback he has is crazy, as a jake main it’s very painful to see 😭

[tulip bison]

Speaking of Jake, they still haven't added back the "mathematical" joke to his down air. I miss that.

[next trellis]

I forgot that detail! sad they removed that

[tulip bison]

Yeah, it'd basically be a Tony Hawk combo meter and I thought it was pretty funny.

At least his stretch doesn't crash the game anymore, that was a fun era.

[slate jetty]

oof

i remember that

[supple depot]

That goes against most of what the top tier pkayers are saying and how results are coming out at the high level play.

[slate jetty]

many top teir batman players will complain its not as easy as before...they get pretty salty when anything happens to him nerf wise(im talking diehard batman players)

[supple depot]

it's not just batman mains that are realizing he's not on top anymore. also I think weaker characters need buffs ratyher than nerfing everything good characters have. they're balancing method of nerfing everything on a character isn't helpful.

[slate jetty]

i disagree, I feel nerfing is better than buffing for this game...

[supple depot]

The nerfs should be smaller things rather than throw out everything and make the character ass. The main stuff that needs nerfs is 0tDs. Its more fun when worse characters can actually do stuff

[timid steeple]

Can you clowns do anything right? Nobody wants to play against ai that auto dodges any attacks and spams perfect attacks on a 2v1 in rifts what is wrong with you…..

Oh yea and give ai damage buffs for fights “taking to long” cause you clowns don’t know how to balance damage and then let these busted ai do massive amounts of extra damage in situations like a 2 v 1 when they are already taking reduced damage really great and creative design……

[next trellis]

Are you a batman main? And that’s not a valid argument, his moves still do far too much damage as well as knockback

[quasi geyser]

and their air dash is ridiculous

please fix your lag issues in australia

[supple depot]

explain too much damage and knockback cause most of his kill moves got reduced in killing power and he isn't in the top of damagers or early killers in this right now (though some of those early kills def needs nerf)

[hollow relic]

I used to play the game a lot when it came out but now i feel that there is not a lot of tourney not a lot of good skin and character can we at least get the first 14 character for free for New player, real character that we want to play and skin thst we want to buy ?

[molten geyser]

System Freeze Agent Smith's idle menu animation doesn't loop properly, there's a very noticable skip every time he breathes in.

[sturdy dagger]

I've had several games where the cooldown on moves straight up didn't recover or came in much later. Sometimes the icons will go away for the whole match too.

[round turtle]

Pfg please let me gift skins and gleamium for friends

[molten geyser]

Gizmo's grounded special attack in Star Contenders is his down special, which deals no damage at all and is even more useless in SC mode than it is in regular fights. Could it at least be switched with his up special?

[next trellis]

grounded downtilt (the double kick) is guaranteed 11+ damage and is spammed by nearly every high elo batman. the dash also has insane knockback. additionally, his up punch does a lot of damage

why does bugs have so much knockout ability?

[supple depot]

Im a bugs main, you're completly incorrect about this. He got nerfed in killing ability super bad and the only way he gets early kills is through setups and projectiles when the person is already high in the air. most all his true combo stuffed got nerfed and bat will rarley kill below 130%.

[olive pier]

If you guys don’t do anything else. Fix hitboxes and hurtboxes

[viral echo]

You really need to fix the online connection problems

[hollow relic]

The game is great but i feel like i have nothing to do after the event and the rank

If we had more mod that is fun that will be awesome

Or stage too

[mossy hill]

Should've use #netcode-chat if its connection complained

[next trellis]

I’m not incorrect. bugs still gets early kills all the time in the air, you admit it yourself. he shouldn’t be able to get any early kills at all. his nair is spammed 24/7 by every bugs player, if anything needs a nerf its his nair and cooldown times. i’ve also gone against many toxic bugs players that spam the hell out of the bat, some go as far as camping the wall post wall fatigue just spamming the bat over and over again

[supple depot]

Early kills is not the same as knockback.... and if you don't know how to easily counter his nair you're just having a skill issue. his nair is very counterable lots of characters can low profile it with an attack and trade. hell you can hit bugs after a nair even when he lands. Nair's priority is ass and loses to jabs, which are supoosidly supposed to have the lowest priority of attacks in the game, if you see bugs spamming nair you through out a move to trade and get massive damage. Bugs has amazing offstage pressure but if you're also not offstage you should never apporach him, he has to get up eventually. That's not early knockback. also his upair got nerfed drastically killing at aroun d 140%+ from ground. which is way worse than most characters best kill options.
Claiming for a character to get nerfed when you refuse to learn the matchup is hella lame. especially since said character already got nerfed to the ground and isn't even in the top half of characters anymore.
If he's so broken i would love to see you implement this playstyle you're talking about and get anywhere with it.

[undone tulip]

Twenty years, I've already seen if it was a restriction thing, but it's not because if I'm able to play Elden Ring, is it possible for me to play multiversus?

[sonic folio]

then it might be an issue with your account, i have no idea what else it could be, try contacting support, thats really the only thing i can say

[mossy hill]

Sadly velma has really horrible frame data even bugs can beat it easily

[supple depot]

yea velma needs some buffs

[timid steeple]

You people need to remove ai getting multipliers to their damage with “anger” on rifts because we don’t do 0 to death combos like we are nakat playing the game like it’s our life.
Remove this sweaty bs….. it’s beyond annoying with your coders lack of ability to make this game function. Like having multiple power puffs playing in a match breaks the game and you force a daily rift challenge on one of those missions on top of it…. 🤢

[junior widget]

Something about the Water Tower stage needs to change if Iron Giant can be crushed by the open door for being too big.

[hollow relic]

@junior widget not in ranked if you play in casual thsts for practise so no its perfecly normal

[undone tulip]

So man, this is another problem, I sent them a message but they said they can't give details of what's going on, I already posted on X on Reddit and so far nothing, I even tagged them, I even put money into the game

[gentle zinc]

I like the changes Nakat described on his livestream. Pretty good stuff

[sonic folio]

i was afraid that was gonna happen 🫤 multiple times, support sends people here sayin we can help better when uuuh we literally cant, im sorry dude

i honestly cant think what else, because this game has no chat for you be banned from saying something

unless your name is a swear word in one way or another lol

even then i find that difficult

[eternal moon]

Speed boost Harley

Nerf joker j

Fix this f****** game

[spare iris]

First, I didn't play Marceline outside guest missions because I waited for "early access" to be over and I didn't want to waste the levels before Power Pledge

Then, I didn't play her because I still was grinding fighter road XP

Then, I got her but I still haven't played her outside missions because now I don't want to waste her mission XP till the next char comes to fighter road

Bottom line, I haven't really played the new character for months into the season

Great progression system, MVS /s

[eternal moon]

Buff Harley

Speed and strength

[hollow relic]

@eternal moon she dont need it watch pro and trust me she is doing fine

@spare iris did you finish the battle pass cause she give xp if you finish the other charscter

[spare iris]

Yeah I've the full roster and I'm done with the BP
I've no need for the converted XP

[hollow relic]

Rip same for me but rank still there

@spare iris did you do the rift mod ?

[spare iris]

ig but idc for that

I did all rifts so far and maxed out my gems yes

[hollow relic]

Then wait for tommorow there is a cool free skin in the rift

[spare iris]

ye it's sth to do at least

[hollow relic]

The jason one exclusive

But after it yeah feel kinda hard to do something

Rank, rift, unlock character it need something else for fun i think

[eternal moon]

@hollow relic yeah

[hollow relic]

Ah for real ?

I didnt even saw it i though you were like screaming that harley needed a buff for x reason

[eternal moon]

@hollow relic no if u play rank u will see it

Like lebron why is he so strong

[hollow relic]

I do am close to be master with 2 character

@eternal moon i feel LeBron is mid

Am close to be master with jason and raven

Lebron can be anoying cause you need to respect is basket Ball but its fair it could be worse

[eternal moon]

@hollow relic They made him strong

[hollow relic]

@eternal moon i fough him couple time but i feel its mid

Like jason

Maybe he is a little better but he is not cracked like agent smith or ppg

Like both can kill you just from a good jab

[eternal moon]

Harley should be stronger and faster and she is the lightest hitter in the game. All the other characters in this game don't really gotta do no combos, and it kills.

[hollow relic]

@eternal moon there are some character that need it more than harley and for some character like batman,arya raven and more they need more skill

[eternal moon]

I know u didn't just say batman Arya and raven

[hollow relic]

I did

But there is more

Even in tournament harley is doing well

But whats ur rank am curious

@eternal moon 1s and 2s am really curious cause if you are grand master i have nothing to discuss woth you cause your better than i am but beetween plat and bronze there is your character to master first saying thst everyone is broken

Thats my point of view

[eternal moon]

@hollow relic Arya is super fast and strong batman has all them amor breaker that can kill u instally and raven takes up way to much hp

@hollow relic i am platinum

[hollow relic]

@eternal moon who do you main harley ?

[eternal moon]

Yeah

And they be killing with stupid stuff that shouldn't kill

[hollow relic]

Try to learn all the true combo and read potentiel go see pro playing her and train in the training mod 2 or 3 weeks max your master

@eternal moon yeah they could be anoying but your plat let yourself the time to master your character trust me you csn win more just practise and for raven i agree

Shes is good i have done combo at 59 pourcent true in real game so yeah she is good but hard to play

[eternal moon]

@hollow relic I do be hitting combo

[hollow relic]

@eternal moon thsts cool then your close to diamond ?

If yes just wstch pro gameplay and will level up fast i did it for agent i play him like hour and a half and i could 0 to death

[eternal moon]

@hollow relic They need to know how to equal out the characters because some of them is over power.If it keeps going like this it will fall off

[prime bane]

People been saying that since the beta

It's not going anywhere cause it's free and, unless you want to pay for Nintendo+, is the closest thing to a smash clone with familiar characters

[eternal moon]

It give people that doesn't need a buff and buff if that's the case give it to everyone

[prime bane]

This is the endless fighting game debate. Truth is, you will never have a truly balanced cast of characters

[eternal moon]

So give it to Harley the speed needs a buff like Arya and strength

[prime bane]

Closest game series to have true balance is Tekken, and even still it's not really.

Depends on who you ask. Harleys be demolishing me. Hard to hit, fast startups, short recovery windows.

[eternal moon]

Or demon slayer

[hollow relic]

@prime bane thats what i was saying yo him harley is strong

[prime bane]

@hollow relic People gotta play multiple characters. If you play one you get tunnel vision and main character syndrome. If you play one toon, you probably think they're bad.

[hollow relic]

@prime bane thats true too

[queen ingot]

Add a mode for no shields

[hollow relic]

Aggree

Rank mod too no shield

[graceful token]

i dont play this game anymore and I am probably going to leave this server. not trying to be purely negative because I think all of the added characters and their kits are cool, but i think the beta was much more fun to play and was much more exciting. the beta had consistently more players than the game does right now, and the additions of game mechanics to make the game feel closer to something like smash is disappointing. multi was its own thing and had a unique feel which is all but gone. i hate to say there is no way to recover from this, but all I can ask is to make the beta playable again through steam demos or smth. sorry for the rant. i love this game regardless, but its a shell of what it once was

[signal crane]

Bring back team and enemy death count. I want to know how many times somebody dies. It doesn't make sense why it wouldn't be displayed. It can't be for toxicity reasons when you have a salt knockout and emote.

[cyan patrol]

Can't stress this enough. Do not team me up with a bot from the start of arena. And why does the enemy bot do literally 3x the damage my bot does?

[next trellis]

i didn’t say they’re the same, bugs still has a lot of knock back on his projectiles. also just because his bat doesn’t kill doesn’t mean it’s bad? it still hardly has any whiff and is spammed like crazy. it’s easily one of the best up airs in the game, and your jab overrides so many other moves which is why every bugs player camps super hard and never approaches

[next trellis]

camping is the least respectable playing style

[supple depot]

This is a game feedback section not one to talk about respectability

[sturdy dagger]

No, we "camp" because everyone else's moves beat ours.

Jabs not that good, it's stubby and you usually have to use dodge bar to make contact.

TBF up air is strong but being able to spam it isn't unique to Bugs.

[prime bane]

Bugs has to camp. It's the way he is designed. Doesn't stop it from being unbalanced and feeling cheap. Camping is the hardest, most annoying play style to go against in any fighting game because it allows your opponent to set the pace for free, which feels unfair. So it's doubly absurd in 2s, where somebody else can just be aggressive amidst a storm of pies, safes, rockets and surprise safe-ish homeruns and mallot swings (which get kos). But what can you expect from a squishy, projectile toon?

Honestly I think the 2v2 stages just need to be a lot bigger.

[supple depot]

get in on bugs face and he can't do much, bugs is much easier to approach than other people with camping. but also feeling cheap is not the same.
I think it feels cheap that a character can use two moves in neutral and still win becuase of how strong they are and they refuse to deviate.

[prime bane]

@supple depot Why'd that feel so aggressive?Everybody has strengths and weaknesses, bro. Characters and players alike. To some people it's hard to play against bugs. For me it's only in twos, really. I agree, in 1v1. Get in bugs' face and what's he gonna do? But find you a good bugs player and they just camp that much better. Even the best of players have a limit to their patience sometimes. And I don't wanna run down a 7 minute clock potentially three times for a minimal RP reward, or worse a chunk rp loss.

[supple depot]

it wasn't meant to be aggressive, but also losing to a good player doesn't mean a character needs to be nerfed. if you get in on bugs you through out your high priority move, if you give bugs space he gets time to do more stuff, if you don't give him time to do setups he's much easier to apporach, just waiting on the side of the stage for bugs to approach is silly since he has no good melee and you can out priotitize and hit him. you stay on bugs and you can punish him throwing out projectiles, you can hit him out of rocket, safe and pies.
The reason Bugs players camp is becuase people constantly complained about how good he was so PFG nerfed nearly all his melee and combo options so now he has no choice but to camp.

[quasi geyser]

well, that and a setup character should probably be weak to interruptions. He has stall options and a really good armour break, after all

[blissful garden]

Please let me buy the elusive skin for superman I'd really would love to buy it guys

[sturdy dagger]

Honestly no.

Rick, Morty, and T&J is in the same game. They have setups and can box. (Their projectiles are faster too)

Bugs being interruptible on top of being extremely punishable on whiff (and on hit because he'll sit there, in place if you do anything but up air or nair) is an insane combination.

If he was just super punishable on whiff, with sturdy attacks like Reindog, it would be a lot better.

[prime bane]

When did I say he needed a nerf?

I only pointed out that he can feel cheap and the game is unbalanced. Both statements I stand behind.

He's certainly not the only toon with cheap, unbalanced tactics/play styles. But, at the very least in 2v2, yeah bugs can be an absolute nightmare. And if you're playing against a good player, it certainly isn't as easy as "getting in and staying in."

Maybe you're built out of that evo-level reflex and skill, but to think that everybody should be or even can be is insane.

Don't think he necessarily needs a nerf, but people certainly have reason to complain about him.

[mossy hill]

Literally when i use velma

People just complained she is too op lol

[molten geyser]

I really wish the rogue rift gave you fighter currency as a potential reward instead of fighter road XP. It's the end of the season. I've already maxed out the battle pass and unlocked all the fighters.

[spare iris]

I diss MVS a lot but I gotta say the musicians cooked
I love the menu theme it's somber yet catchy
and I love the basketball court tune, gets me hyped
Jack stage also

[sturdy dagger]

Tap to fast fall will randomly drop me when I'm clearly pressing up.

[prime bane]

💯

[molten geyser]

I actually like the concept of Rogue Rift, like a PvE take on Arena mode, I just think that right now it's weighed down by a half-baked event with pointless rewards.
I could imagine an expanded version of the mode with more game modes, like maybe you get a horde fight or an infinite jumps fight, maybe a mini-game after every two fights (we haven't had a horde fight since season 2, I mean come on). There could be branching paths to the rift, and you could choose a harder fight in exchange for a rare and stronger perk.

And speaking of Arena mode,I think it would be fun if in addition to the Dark Mimic CPU you face sometimes, there was also something like a Dark Echo CPU that let you fight against one of the eliminated teams.

One more thing, I kinda wish the enemies in Rogue Rift scaled with you. Right now you're just facing four rounds of basic mobs until you reach the boss, and the boss is big and has an extra life and that's it. Add some challenge. Give wave 3-4 increased cooldown or chicken gauntlets or bat-bombs. Give the mode some more substance.

[gusty bone]

Ranked still sucks so badly

[gusty bone]

Ranked actually is the worst mechanic of this game.

[main ocean]

Can't even change difficulties after failing the rift and restarting... Great update, PFG... Rewards aren't even worth it- I can live without that skin, anyway.

[stuck sable]

How the hell do I even get power within xp, I can't play the new rifts. God this game sucks ass

[main ocean]

Leveling up your dark blue gems in the Season 4 rifts.

[stuck sable]

😑

[viral echo]

Please do a Superman anniversary event soon

[stuck sable]

This is a bad garbage game and the developers should personally apologize to me for being alive

[next trellis]

that sure is one hilarious interpretation! you get to use your rocket 10+ times per game. your jab is also amazing, I’m not sure why bugs players in here are claiming it’s bad when it’s used 24/7 as soon as anyone approaches

[next trellis]

because he doesn’t want bugs to get nerfed

[sturdy dagger]

You don't use it when someone approaches, they can just smack it.

Jab 1 is just a stubby armor break. Jab 2 is strong but predictable and Bugs will just stuck there when he throws it out.

Also don't use jab a lot, only when someone whiff in the wrong direction or spam armor.

[next trellis]

a lot of times when i approach a bugs player, they spam jab so they can abuse Jab 2 which is incredible. it doesn’t just happen on whiff but i agree with the rest of what you said

BLACK ADAM CLAP is so so so so strong. slammed like crazy by black adams

[olive pier]

I’m so sick of you guys nerfing ppg. Why can’t you address characters that are actually a problem that are just not getting touched? I’m confused PFG, genuinely.

This game is cooked.

[supple depot]

you can hit bugs out of his rocket and if you are letting him get that many rockets off that's a skill isue, also Bugs jab is literally one of the worst jabs in the game it literally loses to every other jab, if you are throwing out an ariel as you approach bugs jab you will win, how on earth have you not even tried contesting bugs jab then complain it's op? you want a character nerfed becuase you suck at fighting them and refuse to learn and instead beg for them to get nerfed.

[supple depot]

PPG literally had a 0 to death and could kill at 30 off the stage from one quick attack. it needed to be nerfed it was absolutyly absurd

[olive pier]

Congrats, you didn’t read the entire comment and if you did. Well then 🤷🏽‍♂️. Have a good day/night.

[supple depot]

you said you were confused why PPG got nerfed, i answered why. they had one of the biggest problems in the last patch with extremly deadly combos and killing at 30-40% off stray hits. there is other stuff that def needs to be nerfed also but that PPG combo was one of the biggest problems

[olive pier]

Brother, I need you to reread. I didn’t ask why ppg specifically got nerfed. I asked why just her. That’s why I’m confused. Marcy was a given for the obvious loop that takes 0 skill whatsoever. But as far as established characters are concerned, it’s just ppg that has something major that forces a change in gameplay until a 0td comes out 😂. It’s the same complaint with ppg. We get it, someone else figured out a 0td with ppg. Seems like that’s the only thing they care about. You work for PFG? Just curious.

[supple depot]

Marcy got nerfed also. Did you not read the patch? There wasn’t much there not sure how you missed that.

[sturdy dagger]

Do you think there should just be easy ztds?

[olive pier]

There’s no way. You actually are not reading the response because I mentioned Marcy. Literally

[olive pier]

That’s not the point. Read the first comment then respond please. I’m not explaining anything to anyone that’s not going to read. That’s just repetitive and unnecessary.

[sturdy dagger]

They nerfed two cheesey kills, ones people had to deal with regularly.

Actually, I still essentially read your comment as: complaining about PPG getting nerf,while officiating it by saying there's other broken stuff in the game.

Our responses aren't magically non-sequiturs because you threw in a lil whataboutism.

[prime bane]

I hear you, man. The patch focused on the most recent thing; Marcy and PPG... again. And a Marvin thing, I believe. You're saying that there are many other things that need attention. I agree. But they only addressed the MOST egregious/complained about issues. Why? Because there's 3 people on the dev team tops. Game is free-to-play. You're not gonna get many large mid-season patches.

[wintry orbit]

I think a dev team that small should never have been contracted to handle IP this large, if that's the case, idk.

[spare iris]

rogue rift sucks

55/300 chests no skin
but hey at least I got 3600 perk currency when I had 160k+
and got ~1300 FR XP when I had use for 0
and got 550 BP XP when it's already done

RNG is RNG but this just feels lame

meanwhile, others got the skin for beating the rift ONCE on EASY

[sturdy dagger]

They weren't approached, PFG pitched the idea.

They do need more time and manpower though.

[wintry orbit]

I didn't say who approached whom. I'm saying that the deal should never have been made with a crew this small with IP this large.

[tawdry wolf]

@umbral summit Hey guys. I know you're focused on prioritizing getting in characters who are recognizable, and admittedly, this community gets intensely aggressive when characters like Nubia get included, but I would like to see more original characters in the game. Reindog is all alone 🥺 It would be cool if you guys continued development on that buffy dude from the beta for example.

And so that the community aren't so up and arms about it, you guys could try to aim for a season with 3 characters. Two of the usual, and the original character in the middle of those two, so that it doesn't feel like they took a spot over another character to the community

[olive pier]

You’re the actual GOAT! When I say thank you for actually reading my comment, question, and gripe, while simultaneously answering my question. This is all I was looking for if PFG didn’t respond themselves. You’re a gem homie, I hope you realize that.

[umbral elm]

And didn't do something about Smith still having his dumb stuff

The only thing they did to """"balance"""" him was replacing his hitboxes with RNG

It's literally RNG, your opponent is well within the hitbox and you still get no regs

Like yes, he still has cheese

But they removed all the high skill ceiling stuff he used to have

They had 1 job, which was to remove his cheese

And they failed at it

Miserably

And made him garbage outside of said cheese

Like bravo

Keeping the problematic stuff

And removing the honest stuff

It's the opposite to what they should have done

[queen ingot]

Give Garnet a twerking emote. I wish to throw it back on my enemies.

[sonic folio]

marceline's down special from her stance moves doesnt always fully connect the last hit

[blissful garden]

1- Improve the cel shading and lighting to this game and it's models have it be more vibrant and colorful cartoonist style.

2- Please improve the maps and refine them. Don't make them too annoying to move, too big or too small. Have some major background movements in those maps as well to make the maps look less stale. You could also have some gimmicks depending on each map and background.

3- Please focus on improving your user interface. This UI needs a major remake. Adapt to expressive vibrant style of cartoonish art to it.

4- Focus only on one battle pass per season. Having two separate battle passes with repetitive rewards like badges and perk exp isn't rewarding.

5- Improve your rank system. I'm being honest here and not exaggerating that spending 30 hours just to climb from division one to master was the most depressing time I had playing any game. It's not rewarding to win only a meger amount like 6 to 8 points while losing 14 to 19 at a loss.

6- Improve Fighter Road by giving the players the choice to choose who they grind for. Give new players instant access to at least 5 characters of their own choosing or just make em all free from start.

7- Give more access for player to communicate and form connections in game. game chats, game voice chats, guild system, worldwide chat box.

8- Elusive skins are just pointless please remove them. Returning and new players who might be interested in spending money for those skins won't be able to buy them. Prime example myself, I'd love to buy the superman Clark Kent skin but can't .

9- Improve Rift by removing unnecessary difficulty levels and rift gems. Give unique rewards like gelimum and skins for completing rift stories to entice players to play them. Let us matchmake in rift so we can form a party easier to play together.

10- please Improve your hitmodels and hitboxes. Many characters still attack from behind. My superman hitboxes can whiff against small models.

,

11- please refrine shield it's hard punishing ppl who spam their combos then use their shield repeatedly. Have a time limit of shield activation and please add a way to destroy shield faster in ground and in air.

[sonic folio]

when it comes to 6, i know i've said this before, but having all characters free could be a thing they cant do by law, or at least not without refunding/rewarding those who did buy character beforehand. However allowing a handful of them to be accessible and by choice does sound good and possible

and 7... i know there are kids/younger people playing this, as well as veeeery aggressive people who take this game too serious playing this game, i think no chat is fine

[molten geyser]

Please take another look at how the character interaction quotes are selected and played. I haven't heard a single character-specific win quote since the game relaunched.

[slate jetty]

win quotes..idk about...but there are a ton of interaction quotes in general

[molten geyser]

Yeah, I'm mainly talking about win quotes.

[sonic folio]

if i remember, in beta they had win quotes, specially with 2v2s

characters interacted more in the win screen

[lusty sparrow]

no one is playing ranked in the australian region server for days. makes it hard to rank up..

[mossy basin]

No one playing ranked in Europe too.

[lusty sparrow]

dang

pfg gotta do somthng about that..

[eternal moon]

Ner batman speed and strength

[eternal moon]

Do something with Harley down move it sucks .it can't go through objects like everyone else

[eternal moon]

Give Harley some dame speed

Arya needs a huge nerf now

Arya out the fuc*** game

Harley should be able to spam guns like everyone else

[mossy hill]

Asia is much deadge

[eternal moon]

Half of these characters isn't stronger or faster than her.Needs a buff and needs a different down neutral sucks, everybody else down neutral, go through platform, but hers don't

All of mag charters needs a huge narf with the spamming

[eternal moon]

Update Harley

[eternal moon]

Arya needs a huge nerf

[slate jetty]

dude all you do is talk about Harley...my guy...

[eternal moon]

@slate jetty Yall need to update Harley quinn her moves are to slow and speed people can get out of her combo to easily down neutral is trash and side spaciel

look in a Harley chat even the other people says she needs something new combo

[cyan patrol]

90% of this chat is "I lost! Nerf character x and buff my character!"

[eternal moon]

@cyan patrol who is x

[slate jetty]

lol

[slender seal]

these rogue rifts are way too hard for a solo player to complete to even have the smallest of chances at getting the skin its kinda ridiculous

[slate jetty]

true

you looking for someone?

[slender seal]

unfortunately just used my last attempt

had jason boss use one move on me and do 178 damage

and i have max gems

[slate jetty]

who do you use?

[slender seal]

i use jason for the first 4 to tank it then stripe on the final to juggle

[slate jetty]

I have 1 ticket left, its either I find a person to come with me in it or just do insanity difficulty..

[slender seal]

thats what i did even if its a 2 or whatever % its still a chance and i keep hearing about people that got it on the easiest difficulty

[slate jetty]

right? lol
idk man....

but you wanna help me on that last ticket? lol

[slender seal]

i feel like its also important to note that NOBODY NEEDS PERK CURRENCY

i actually hopped off after my last attempt and came here to post feedback

[slate jetty]

ah

[slender seal]

id look in general tho ive had rift help before there

unfortunately youll have to find someone with it already cause the joiner doesnt get chest pulls

[slate jetty]

yeah I know

they just talking about ninteno up there lol

[cyan patrol]

Whichever character they lost to

[eternal moon]

@slender seal u won't get nothing if u have a team mate

@cyan patrol i hate whan people have a characters that knows shouldn't be buff and saying the charter that does need one shouldn't have one or update

[slate jetty]

no the host is the only one that gets rewards..the teammate is the one that doesnt get anything

[eternal moon]

@slate jetty I already have that jason skin fire

[slate jetty]

do you have tickets left today?

[eternal moon]

Yes

@slate jetty I wonder what u get if u have all 300 treasure

[slate jetty]

i want to see if we can do looney together first (if there is lag or anything) and if we can beat it...i dont have the skin and dont want to waste tickets

wanna go and do one of yours and if we good do my last ticket today?

[eternal moon]

They didn't unlock looney for me

[slate jetty]

...what are you gem levels 😐

[eternal moon]

51

[slate jetty]

um...what

[eternal moon]

@slate jetty Only goes up to crushing

Gleamium 1.76k

[slate jetty]

dude....are you high or something....
I asked what your gem levels were they each go to 20. were does 51 come from and what does Gleamium have to do with it?

[eternal moon]

@slate jetty It doesn't have that it only have the treasure box

[slate jetty]

..I...I dont know how to respond anymore 🤣

the difficulties are unlocked by gem xp...so it matters what lvl you're gems are

[eternal moon]

It doesn't have it up there

[cyan patrol]

I've solo'd looney rogue rift numerous times. Just need max lvl gems

[eternal moon]

🤣

[slate jetty]

can you help me then?

[eternal moon]

Everything is to the max

[slate jetty]

cap

[eternal moon]

U want to see

[slate jetty]

sure, DM me...but if it "only goes to crushing" then you're stuff isnt maxxed

[cyan patrol]

Possibly later. At work right now was just taking a break

[slate jetty]

alright, i'll hang on to the last ticket until then..do you know how long from now tho

[cyan patrol]

I won't be home for another 7 hours or so

[slate jetty]

ight

[eternal moon]

@slate jetty it matters on how much xp u have.thats why it didn't get unlocked for me

[slate jetty]

yes...and gem xp levels the gems....

[eternal moon]

Ok but it didn't have gem count like they have on the other ones

[slate jetty]

what....we arent talking about the stars...we are talking about the gems...the things that give you buffs...

[sonic folio]

not sure if you are still confused about this but just in case

#clips message

these are the gems level that matter and count to unlock the rifts difficulties

[eternal moon]

@sonic folio yeah I know

[sonic folio]

ah ok, since you said 51 i had no idea what you were talkin about since they only got to 20

just makin sure

[eternal moon]

@sonic folio I was saying that because it didn't have the gems count on their like the other ones on the side.so I read it and it said how much xp u have to unlock it

[sonic folio]

ooooh ok

[slate jetty]

that made sense?...can...can you explain what he means?

[sonic folio]

the top right in the rogue rift doesnt show a needed amount of xp unlike every other rift, just the amount of chests left, therefore he assumed xp was not going to be needed for this rift

honestly, good criticism in my opinion, everything necessary should be layed out and we shouldnt assume just because we are used to it

i keep thinking about new players who get into this game

[slate jetty]

ok...but if everything is maxxed as he said...all 20s he shouldbt be locked out of it and only have up to crushing...

so its not adding up

[sonic folio]

from what i got, he wasnt talking about the gems, not sure what tho

[lusty sparrow]

no ones playing ranked in the servers australia is in. i cant find any matches. how do i even rank up??

[next trellis]

can bugs please be adjusted so he doesn’t camp so hard? every bugs player is so so so so bad, they all avoid others at all costs and in ranks matches it’s such a bi—ch it get a bugs teammate bc all they know how to do is run away and do less than 130 damage

[blissful garden]

I don't think you can

Can you change the servers

I mean change the me region

[lusty sparrow]

i dont think so. man, this game..

[fickle thistle]

I don’t know if it’s just me but I feel like stripe is constantly hitting me even when not facing me

[olive pier]

Alright bro, was literally about to rank up because me and this Marvin were beating this shaggy and Rick. All for the game to randomly desync? What a game

[eternal moon]

Batman needs a nerf

[sturdy dagger]

Characters should commit to their actions:

-Drop whiff cancelling.

-Disallow the ability to just float backwards by DI'ing back mid forward aerial, and vice versa.

-Whiffing armor should be risky, and not just for Garnet.

[umbral elm]

Can you actually make it so that Smith's hitboxes actually connect

It feels like they are RNG based

Nerf the character instead of making him unplayable because of the bugs

[high goblet]

The ranked points need to be reverted back to how they were in season 3 it was so much easier to rank up and you didn’t lost 16+ points from the enemy regardless of rank why would they do this

[little aurora]

Garnet shouldn't be able to set up her grab to go off the top of the ring, it's essentially a 0td without any of the actual effort of one

[mossy hill]

ttheres no actual way to countter grab in this frickin game

[umbral elm]

why is Shaggy able to keep some of the charge progress when charging his rage

like he can cancel it, and charge again

and when he does so, it takes way less time

[eternal moon]

Iron gaint need to get killed easy

[sonic folio]

it was a known issue that sometimes people were just not able to move at all for whatever reason

however it hasnt happened to me the past month (maybe 2 months?)

but im pretty sure it is an issue with the game and not them just standing there

i think if a person wanted to just not play or leave faster theyd just jump off, standing there makes thing longer, so im sure its an issue with the game

wait now that i think about it, ive had a few idle ones 2 weeks ago ish, but only in 2's

so the issue might still be there

[sturdy dagger]

I brew coffee and run to pee on the rematch screen.

[sonic folio]

well there is issues that have been there since season 1-2

so it wouldnt be that difficult to think it hasnt gone away, just happens less often

[sturdy dagger]

Could be the controller disconnecting. It happens on console.

[sonic folio]

that too

i've seen it on pc users tho

[sturdy dagger]

They could be running wirelessly on PC, some people do it even though they're arms length from their computer lol.

On a related note I have had an issue where I'd put in an input and my character will randomly not acknowledge it at all.

Like yes game I totally wanted to jump in someone's face and do nothing~

[sonic folio]

oh yeah wireless disconnected me every time lol, i had to switch to wired

[sonic folio]

i remember my game reset my imput buffer once and i had to switch it back to something lower

maybe check if that happened to you

[sturdy dagger]

I dropped it to 8, it still happens now and then.

[sonic folio]

aw that sucks

[sturdy dagger]

[sonic folio]

so today is my first day of playing the rogue rift after getting all the rewards

now you barely get any reward for beating it

i played it in insanity to check it out and i only got 25xp for the battlepass, thats basically nothing guys...

[eternal moon]

Buff Harley because none of these power levels isn't lining up. To make it fare

Fair

[blissful garden]

1- Improve the cel shading and lighting to this game and it's models have it be more vibrant and colorful cartoonist style.

2- Please improve the maps and refine them. Don't make them too annoying to move, too big or too small. Have some major background movements in those maps as well to make the maps look less stale. You could also have some gimmicks depending on each map and background.

3- Please focus on improving your user interface. This UI needs a major remake. Adapt to expressive vibrant style of cartoonish art to it.

4- Focus only on one battle pass per season. Having two separate battle passes with repetitive rewards like badges and perk exp isn't rewarding.

5- Improve your rank system. I'm being honest here and not exaggerating that spending 30 hours just to climb from division one to master was the most depressing time I had playing any game. It's not rewarding to win only a meger amount like 6 to 8 points while losing 14 to 19 at a loss.

6- Improve Fighter Road by giving players the choice to choose who they grind for. Give new players instant access to at least 5 characters of their own choosing so they can continue to play and try the game.

7- Give more access for player to communicate and form connections in game. game chats, game voice chats, guild system, worldwide chat box.

8- Elusive skins are just pointless please remove them. Returning and new players who might be interested in spending money for those skins won't be able to buy them. Prime example myself, I'd love to buy the superman Clark Kent skin but can't .

9- Improve Rift by removing unnecessary difficulty levels and rift gems. Give unique rewards like gelimum and skins for completing rift stories to entice players to play them. Let us matchmake in rift so we can form a party easier to play together.

10- please Improve your hitmodels and hitboxes. Many characters still attack from behind. My superman hitboxes can whiff against small models.

,
11- please refrine shield it's hard punishing ppl who spam their combos then use their shield repeatedly. Have a time limit of shield activation visually and please add a way to destroy shield faster in ground and in air.

[toxic trench]

mind you, i am wired all the time and today it disconnect me 3 times in ranked then it punish me for their potato servers

[sonic folio]

yeah... then the issue hasnt been resolved then, thats sad

[umbral elm]

4- The old system was between 950 and 1950 for both the characters and the pass and now it's 3600 if you want both things
8- Elusive cosmetics are fine if they are a challenge to obtain like Matrix Smith
9- The main issue is the inconsistency, all the regular 1v1 fights are way too easy, the 2v2 are hit or miss and some bosses are hard because they are immune to combos
10- The hit registration is so stupid, if you think Superman is bad, Smith's stuff whiffs for no reason against characters like Iron Giant, even if they don't dodge

it's INSANE how inconsistent his hit registration is

they don't dodge and it still whiffs

like it's literally unplayable

but since the devs don't play Smith, he's not getting fixed, they only fix their mains

like Batman, WoWo, etc

because it's insane how bad he feels rn

you do everything right

and your stuff still drops

get a HARD read on the edge of the platform and you hit the side B

whoops, it dropped

like

if I manage to get a hard read

with a slow move

then there's no reason why it should just drop

like only the first bullet hits

and the other 2 don't

(the final one is the one that deals knockback)

like seriously, @pastel flint you mentioned how players should get rewarded for making a correct play, however, even if you have pixel perfect spacing, your opponent is in the middle of your move animations and so on, his stuff still drops for no reason
he's literally the only character in the game that's affected by this

constant no regs

like if I barely clip someone's foot

and that's why it doesn't hit

fair enough

but if I hit the middle of their body

it should hit

Oog already made a few suggestions on what needs to be done to fix Smith

you guys should revert him to Season 2 and go from there

for example, make his jab 2 frames slower, and increase his groundbounce hitstun by 2 frames, so he can combo but he can't rolljab as effectively

this would increase skill expression and address some of the cheese

like I'm not asking for his hitboxes to be as ridiculous as before, I want them to be in line with the rest of the cast

either everyone has hitboxes that extend towards their body to make them consistent

or no one has them

making a character inconsistent is not balance, because he's still dumb when he is working as intended

but feels AWFUL the rest of the time

also, please remove the "whiff" on dodges

it achieves nothing

and it doesn't take into account those dodges you do to space out attacks to get ready for a counterattack

especially against multihits

you dodge to space, not to dodge per se

also, it removes the possibility to use dodges to chase people that are running away

and regarding shields, they are still raw, it would be better to put them back in the oven and release them when they are ready

they are not that bad BUT they need to be properly implemented

it's better to not have a feature than to have a poor implementation that introduces more jank

[prime bane]

Mmr is a joke. I am ok, but there is no way I should be going up against grandmasters just because they've decided to gatekeep with characters they haven't ranked up. The fomo to get the one cool seasonal skin is real. And frankly, if you've GMed, you need to be placed in your own little league of 1337 nerds instead of being allowed to fight people well below your rank just trying to obtain all the rewards.

Or, you know, go play something else.

PFG needs to fix this nonsense. But they know that if they made the cool skin obtainable at, say, platinum or even diamond instead of masters, another 70% of their dwindling player base would disappear early in the season.

[eternal moon]

Yeah yall have to do something with this power leveling some of them needs a freaking nerf ASAP

Fuc* are yall doing

Power leveling is as* in that movie

[eternal moon]

Why does nubia have so many up moves?That she can do in the air why can't she control her side move spaciel it should only go on way when she does three air kicks

[eternal moon]

U have to fix shaggy he shouldn't be taking up that much hp

[eternal moon]

Yall have to stop the behind hitting .how can they hit u if u are behind them

[vale basalt]

If rogue rifts becomes a trend, put some gem XP as one of the main rewards next time, so people who don't like to grind all the season's rifts can unlock higher difficulties faster while having a chance to get whatever the next big reward is.

[stuck sable]

yeah I've even given up hope of getting out of plat because even when I do make a decent amount of progress, the game will just decide to pair me with a diamond teammate against a double master duo like sometimes 4-6 times in a row and even if the lossess you get are small they are enough to put a major dent in your progress for something that was almost entirely out of your hands. That is extremely demoralizing and usually what ends my game sessions and makes me go play something else.

I managed to get to diamond 2 last season, this season I can barely get out of plat V. It really feels like either the matchmaking system is broken beyond repair, or everyone but the most major competative players are leaving this game so you rarely get matches with people of your own skill level anymore

[stuck sable]

I really think your experiment of pairing low level players against high level players in ranked have been a massive failure. Maybe you have made some players up their skill level faster than they would have gradually fighting people of the same level with a teammate of the same skill level, but more than anything you have made a system that gives low ranked players an absurd level of entry while giving high ranked players basically free win games against people WAY below their league.

This is a system that makes new players quit. If I'm in a fight with Mike Tyson as an up and coming boxer I expect to take over this goddamn title if I win, and yet all I get from this game is a max of 40rp should I against all goddamn odds beat the master rank duo with a plat teammate fighting alongside me.

You are going to lose all new players giving this game a chance and finding that the game isn't fair, and you are going to lose your high level competative players when everyone else is leaving this game in droves and there's nobody left for them to dunk on.

[steady stump]

I have some thoughts and gripes on the way PPG currently plays. Most of them are what I believe to be unintentional bugs that should be addressed in the upcoming patch.

1. All 3 of the sister's grounded side specials almost never catch an airborne opponent that's within the grab range. I have no idea what the hitbox looks like for their side special grab, but this is detrimental in certain MUs like Batman or Agent Smith where they'll fly in front of me doing an aerial and I try calling them out with a side special. The side special is almost garaunteed to miss everytime, whether they're point blank with the sister or the sister literally travels through them, it misses. I don't believe it should miss as often as it does, I have no idea whether this is intentional or if it's caused by the move's hitbox or character hurtboxes.

2. jab 2 into grounded down attack is extremely di-able. If a player holds away from jab 2 the ground down attack will always miss. I am also not sure if this is intentional? I assume it isn't because I don't understand why a move literally made for the purpose of being used after jab 2, doesn't work after jab 2. It's not horrible the way it is currently since i can dodge cancel into down attack to allow it to hit after jab 2, but even then the hitbox is still weird and may not connect properly half the time.

3. grounded side special no longer "grabbing" shouldn't necessarily be a thing. If a move is created as a grab, it should be a grab. I'm fine with the sisters not being able to side special through projectiles like they were previously, but if a character is shielding I should be able to grab them like other characters can, such as jason for instance. The grab is relatively easy to avoid and punish if the player is paying enough attention, so maybe this move completely useless against shield and armor makes realistically no sense, some pressure would be nice considering they dont have many great grounded options imo.

4. Blossom's neutral special barely works. I have no idea what was done to this move, but before they got their most recent balance changes, they were able to keep opponents really well in this move. Now, if you have slight momentum, Blossom's neutral special will allow the opponent to fall out of the move before the final hit, leaving yourself open to get punished, which shouldn't happen. The move should reliable connect to itself.

Those are really the only issues I can think of at the moment with this character. I enjoy how the character plays, I just wish the character felt more consistent to play than they do now

[high goblet]

Rank system is horrible I don’t know what idiot keeps making these changes to the game y’all had it right last season just reverse it back lose 16-19 points from anyone is beyond stupid and makes ranked a nightmare

[prime bane]

It's why this game is dying. When the competitive scene goes, everything else follows.

PFG bad at job.

MMR determines who I fight based on "skill" yet the RP I earn is determined by the rank of that specific character. Grandmaster top ten Morty demolishes me with his silver bugs and I lose a chunk of points while I'm trying to fight my way to masters.

If I beat a GM, I don't care what side piece they're using, I should skip a tier unless I'm already at masters.

Since only 1000 or so people play this game on and off, at any given time, the pool of matchups is low. I get that. But if that's the case, why am I punished for it? I can't get the dope Raven skin cause I'm not 1337 enough to eat and breathe this game with meta characters only and mash my way through the 30~ gatekeeping prodigies that can't afford other games?

PFG bad at job.

[eternal moon]

It is a whole lot of stuff yall have to fix like the behind hitting whan u are behind them and the power leveling. Stop making the tanks needs to die whan they are on red

It be still taking a lot of hits.

Don't die if any thing they should die instally whan they are on red

Buff Harley speed and strength