game-feedback

[inland hawk]

Ok

[solar tapir]

Is the "Offline Mode" going to be permanent or is it a bug that the devs are going to fix?

[inland agate]

Bug

[solar tapir]

Coolio. Thanks!

[raw cloak]

Batman grapple signature perk should make his grapple pull enemies towards him like a batclaw

His current grapple signature is severely outclassed by bouncerang

[molten geyser]

I'm just gonna make the point I've made before and will keep on making

Currently, when you select a perk, it automatically goes into the first slot, or if you're taking your teammate's perk it goes into whichever slot they have it in

Really, it should go into the first empty slot by default

And after that whichever slot you currently have selected

[tiny mountain]

**[SUGGESTION]**That would be nice to have the icon next to the definition in the glossary to have a better understanding and better for the player to search with an icon

[molten geyser]

Also, the Iron Giant really should have some character specific lines for when you select a rematch.

Like, it could say Affirmative. or Rematch.

[vivid cargo]

Is there a cooldown on supermans fly? i was just in a match with a guy who kept spamming it and dragging me to the border then instantly killing me.

[molten geyser]

Or if you decline, it could say something like Going home.

[fiery kite]

Can we get an in game voice chat so it’s easier to talk to friends

[rose grove]

we could use cross platform voice chat

[covert axle]

Please let this be one of the games where the BP gives you enough currency to buy the next BP

[lethal zinc]

I think the game in the closed Alpha was really fun but this beta has been dog so far taz spam and just general spam overall feels like their is no real combos to do plus a huge imbalance in certain characters.

[wild fog]

nerf taz tornado jesus christ that move has priority over everything

[neon blaze]

nerf taz tornado jesus christ that move has priority over everything

[wild fog]

rebooting

[long sage]

They should make a soy vs spy skin for either Tom or@make a new character based on them

[ivory yew]

nerf taz on release please or tomorrow whenever nerf his knockback and damage and time for his tornado

[oak talon]

Mother of god nerf the knock back on taz nado bruh

[wild fog]

ong just take taz out of game bruh taz too strong and spammy

[lethal zinc]

It’s crazy to say that the closed Alpha was more balanced then the beta

[molten geyser]

Shutting down.

[maiden timber]

progression feels mad slow this time ngl

[trail bough]

it really, really doesn't

And no, "running away" doesn't count as priority.

[white prairie]

1. Rerolling daily mission just for it to get replaced with the same mission after completing the replacement is real zzz
2. Some transitions refocus the mouse to the center of the game screen which is really annoying when doing stuff on the side while waiting

[maiden timber]

fr grapple all around kinda feels meh

[molten geyser]

Honestly, enough characters have projectiles and disjoints that the tornado isn't that big of a deal

[worldly dragon]

Asia servers when?

[spring carbon]

Stable US Servers When/

[trail bough]

As for my own feedback, Assist needs to be put into the Glossary, as well as whatever a Character Ticket is.

[spring carbon]

The fact that I haven't been able to have a Green Connection since Open Beta began is really awful when seeing lots of people have Green Connections.

Whats going on with this anyway?

[worldly dragon]

u should be gratful u guys have ur own servers

[spring carbon]

If only they worked properly

[trail bough]

Your net might not be very good.

[spring carbon]

Gigabit Connection

[trail bough]

Then assuming you aren't being throttled, I have no idea what's up. Once I actually got in, things were fine for me.

[spring carbon]

It's not my net. -- My connection was totally stable all of the Technical Tests, and even a little bit on Day 1 of Open Beta.

Net is strong as it ever has been, little to no jitter.

[somber wasp]

arya should have more if she a sword character and superman is a tank she shouldn't have less range than superman all characters should have a kill options it shouldnt be a select handfew of characters

bruiser and Assassins shouldn't be two different classes since they don't have much of a difference every character thats a Bruiser can do everything an Assassin can do (or vise versa)

[halcyon dock]

if u put ur age under 18 u will appear in offline mode

[late comet]

Nerf fin his stupid ass attacks have too big of a hitbox

[winter ridge]

can we make batman get a faster up light attack ? we loose against shaggy down light attack even if he is late wtf

[night aurora]

concerning game feedback, maybe increase the rate you get gold? I get that you need to support the game with microtransactions and the like, but you could unlock characters easily in the alpha while the beta has you take 40+ matches just to get enough for one unlock

[devout void]

i think some more characters need totally new perks
Shaggy's one last zoinks is just plain useless, you'll never actually want to use it over hangry man.
That being said i like the idea of perks that revolve around shaggy's item play outside of throwing it, what if we do the opposite for his other perk.

** Super Shaggy Sandwich**

• Shaggy gains a 15% damage bonus and extended melee range while holding his sandwich
• The sandwich is 3 times longer than the normal sandwich, for an idea of how long it should be, reference the actual super shaggy sandwich
• every hit makes the sandwich shorter, and after the 3rd hit it disappears
• the Sandwich loses almost all throwability at full size, but gains more knockback, this swaps as it loses size, but its never as consistant or good thrown as the regular sandwich
• Summoning a sandwich is put on a 8 second cooldown

[night aurora]

if you want to add something people will pay for, what about more music tracks? Get some people to make remixes of WB tracks and add them in for DLC, Smash-style

[raw cloak]

Perk training should allow you to upgrade your perks to the stacked version for a large sum of gold

[winter ridge]

imo shaggy already got a well rounded kit even hitboxes and range are way too much

[safe vapor]

that would remove stacking tho

[devout void]

he loses a ranged option for more melee range, sounds good to me
and his projectile is limited by a cooldown

[safe vapor]

you dont wanna add stuff that cancels out another mechanic in the game

[winter ridge]

super sandwich got hardcore range more than batman batarang ,side heavy gap close full screen on almost each map is armored and deadly shaggy is good like he is

[devout void]

exactly, thats why its a good perk idea it trades off one of shaggy's very powerful tools for something that appeals to melee pressure

it allows shaggy a temporary disjoint

only enough for one melee combo, or a few heavy duty hits, thats 3 hits before it breaks

[winter ridge]

still i'd like a decent frame data to be more precise on feedback ô_o data frame play a lot into decisions

[lament barn]

Y’all need to put some end lag on some of these characters attacks

[somber wasp]

the priority hit and hit colisions are very weird if we are in neutral and you have priority yes you should be able to hit me but if I out range or poke you I shouldn't get hit/punished

[somber wasp]

very true which is curently why Jake broken at the momement

[lament barn]

I literally just fought a jake as you sent that

[winter ridge]

why does finn's bag vortex you even if you dodge pls disable this vortex thing

[lament barn]

All sword characters are pretty messy too because they have no room to punish, all they need to do is throw out attacks over and over and you almost can’t touch them

Finn is the worst that I’ve noticed so far

[polar dome]

attacking decay does not work at all, i just fought a batman and quinn that just spammed x with no penalty

[lament barn]

Facts, I also feel like they made it very unfair how really fast attacking characters have huge easy combos by just pressing the same button a lot but slower attacking characters don’t even have true combos from a basic attack, some of them only get like 2 true hits

[vast kernel]

Any chance the down attacks won't be so sensitive to diagonal directions? I can't count the amount of times that my down attacks make me face the wrong direction once they're used.

[lament barn]

TRUE

[winter ridge]

got T.O for explaining a thing without any swear :(

was saying that i regret that you need a lot of apm even when you make right guesses cause animation are standing for too long

[rose grove]

the servers are going to need some serious TLC/expansion before launch over in North America, in the midwest and i'm getting orange and red connections, which the netcode cant even save without glitching me all over the place

[polar dome]

im just upset that i can lose to losers who just spam x

[lament barn]

Yes, with characters like Finn Harley and Batman mostly

[rose grove]

i mean

[lament barn]

All they need to do is add end lag and punish room and it would fix

[rose grove]

IMO x spammers are beat by characters with good punish moves

i will say that after running against dual taz, i'm glad the tornado will be getting a cooldown

[lament barn]

Most characters have huge gaps that can be punish if not careful but for those characters all they need to do if they miss is just keep attacking

[polar dome]

whats the point in adding decay if it doesn't decay

[lament barn]

It’s so busted and makes it super annoying to fight against, yeah you can beat them but it’s super unbalanced

[rose grove]

it does, it just could use adding cooldown/slow down the move like in CS:GO where you cant spam jump or crouch

[jaunty patrol]

cough shaggy kick

[winter ridge]

batman 3 jab string isn't even true what a joke

[tame pine]

neeed more maps and bigger maps for more creative ways to do combat

[rose grove]

shaggy kick is ez counter tho, it's one speed throughout the kick and you're blind if you cant react to it in time lol

just hit R2/RT or jump over

[lament barn]

Also I’ll say this, if you can be close enough to melee someone they should also be Abel to hit you from the distance as well, but there are many characters where that is not the case

[winter ridge]

i agree

[lament barn]

I get in some ways there are characters with a little more reach but it is way to much

Like all swords have this problem

[polar dome]

like what lol

[polar dome]

someone is batman main'

[lament barn]

It isn’t just Batman tho

[winter ridge]

yup and i can tell you that you can escape the third hit which doesn't make any sens

[lament barn]

I will say Batman’s speed makes up for it tho

[polar dome]

nah

[lament barn]

But with slower characters they need better true combos

[polar dome]

and if you can who cares you can still spam it and the decay still doesnt work

[lament barn]

They gave all the fast characters massive strings

Decay barley works on a few characters

Decay on Harley doesn’t even exist, same with taz

[winter ridge]

just like the fact that you can knock out yourself with grappling hook because you don't stop where the hook is but FAR BEHIND for no reason

[polar dome]

just aim better

[lament barn]

I feel like they need more of a balance between slower attackers and faster attackers

Having basically no end lag makes it very biased towards faster attacking characters

[polar dome]

they just need to fix decay cause you spam it and it might do less damage but still will launch you across the map

[lament barn]

That too, also I feel like decay should be way more effective, like start dropping in power fast fast

Also for some reason finn is literally like the fastest character in the game

[winter ridge]

"aim better" can't aim better when im actually keeping my combo then my mate smash someone away and i don't have the choice to follow because cancel is available only when the animation start

[lament barn]

He can spam each of his moves with now downside and it’s super annoying

Also fix attack priority, it is absolutely ridiculous, Superman’s locomotive puch can literally be canceled by and one attack in the game with no pushback

And for slower characters you basically have to rely entirely on shielded attacks to actually get a hit in on the fast guys, like fin is untouchable unless you use a shielded attack to cut through his offense but even then he literally attack SO FAST that he can hit you twice before the attack lands

Making the shield worthless

[topaz ermine]

Rework the dodges because someone can just turn around and hit you out of your dodge due to it being super slow, making this game super reliant on spamming the same moves over and over

[lament barn]

Absolutely fax

[topaz ermine]

I have to rely on upper blast zone to get a great majority of my kills since I have a bugs combo that you can't escape on high damage

[winter ridge]

you got the perks to make it less true but come on why would we pick a stuff like that when some character escapes goes pretty far

[grizzled pasture]

Game feels very fast in a bad way. There's no sense of intentionality since the dominant strategy is just to spam moves until something hits. With the frequent lag too it just seems like the outcome of each round has very little to do with the decisions you made

[topaz ermine]

Pretty much the entire game. I had games where I straight up just teleported into the blast zone

[lament barn]

They just need to find a balance between fast and slow characters, it would help so much

[tame pine]

keep distance on him and choose your timings off attacks. learning the timings as well a bit more. i suggest go to lab put finn on hard and play different charaters and take the time to learn the timings and how to counter him. ive been just as upset about facing off against finn but if you just back off enough and pay attention to the timings of all his move sets you can get him. it just takes patience in a match to see when he is vulnerable.

[topaz ermine]

And TAZ.

That DEVIL.

fix the tornado Jesus christ

[lament barn]

With slower attacking characters like Superman tho, doing that is near impossible, he attacks to fast to counter

Finn can actually hit multiple times faster that supes can throw out one attack, this is why we need better end lag

Also Finn bot on hard mode is nothing compared to how much attack spam comes from players

[winter ridge]

i feel the same as batman you need to respect some neutral game and still you can't do it

[eternal moon]

Y'all think people will have a negative impact on their account if they back out on a ranked match?

[lament barn]

Yes

[eternal moon]

Hopefully..I just had a Tom & Jerry back out on a 1v1

[lament barn]

Probably like a timeout

[topaz ermine]

Idk how you even back out tho

[eternal moon]

Closing the application
Or turning off the console itself

[topaz ermine]

Fair

[eternal moon]

#NerfTaz

[topaz ermine]

His only major issue is his tornado, everything else it's fine tbh

[eternal moon]

I mean you could get around it, I do admit he is annoying but you could beat him still

[winter ridge]

true

[topaz ermine]

Like the chicken mechanic is alright, I can deal with it, my fault if it happens to me, but the tornado.

Give it a cooldown.

[lament barn]

His tornado shouldn’t add the salt thing tho, and shouldn’t have much knock back, either choose it to have knock back or damage

[topaz ermine]

What? It adds salt?

[lament barn]

Yes

[topaz ermine]

That makes an okay mechanic a not okay mechanic

[eternal moon]

Salt being like damage overtime? Idk

[lament barn]

At least I’ve seen it add salt before

[topaz ermine]

Finna test it give me a second

[lament barn]

Oooohhh I see, if he salts you first then does tornado it keeps adding salt

[winter ridge]

if you stack 16 of them opponent turn into a chicken you're slow you can't fight and it become a pac man stage and you're the ghost

[lament barn]

So it’s still pretty busted because he can just salt you once then spam tornado

[devout void]

around tier 9 it takes 900 points to level up once, thats pretty insane, its more than what you can feasibly earn in a day by doing your challenges outside of seasonal

[topaz ermine]

That's so unfair

[lament barn]

It really is, also I level up super fast in this game, I’ve almost maxed out two characters and almost completed the pass and it’s only been like 2-3 days

[wise thunder]

i dont think batman is busted by any means but his grapple having 0 cooldown is odd when other moves of the same nature (WW whip, Arya knife) have a cooldown

[winter ridge]

maxed out ? there is a level max to characters ?

[lament barn]

Kinda true but grapple can be countered easily

[topaz ermine]

Taz can hold his Up Smash forever which no other character can do

Wait is that intentional?

[lament barn]

OML UR RIGHT

[eternal moon]

Oh that's happened to me like once

[devout void]

we definitely need WAY more seasonal challenges. 3 is too few, especially when seasons are supposedly gonna be much longer, even 6, you'd already have them done long before. as crazy as it sounds, 10 challenges for a season, especially when they could run for a month or more is gonna be alot more to do

that or the 3 seasonal challenges you get reset every week during a season, regardless we need more

[topaz ermine]

Wait dude he can walk with it, it seems intention

[eternal moon]

Also I saw two Iron Giants playing together and they somehow combined for a few seconds?

It was odd to me but it looked interesting

[topaz ermine]

But then again, Tom and Jerry can do that too but they can't hold it forever

[lament barn]

Maybe, it’s not to hard to counter tho so Idc too much

[wise thunder]

something being counter-able and easy to dodge stops mattering when it can be thrown out twice every second

[lament barn]

True

[devout void]

i think batman is a bit overtuned

[lament barn]

That’s where priority comes in, but that’s busted too

[lament barn]

Superman is very overturned, he is too slow in some cases

[devout void]

shaggy is just right with how things are balanced now but batman feels a bit too much, he's really fast, hits really hard, tanks hits easily, and has a ton of recovery and can use it without any real consequence

[winter ridge]

wall slide need to reset your jump once you reach them im tired of just dying cause you spam jump then you glide with batman and die instead of being reward for fast execution

also put the ux/ui somewhere else there is too much thing on the screen that make the game really hard to read while playing 2v2

[devout void]

i just labbed a few combos and the sheer damage i could get was nuts especially when it seemed to be true

especially since batman can swap directions mid combo meaning trying to escape it is difficult

[winter ridge]

exe on combo are pretty hard though hitboxes are pretty messy for batman

[devout void]

would it be op if iron giants forward air was changed to act like robs Back air?

[lament barn]

Hitboxes are messy everywhere rn, some characters don’t have them, others have too big

[devout void]

so instead it does no damage except for the thrusters which do a ton of knockback when they turn on

i dunno it just feels like it be a really good kill move for IG

[prisma cedar]

The lag can be unbearable

[lament barn]

Hitboxes are actually such a big problem, Harleys hitboxes are actually busted, she can hit you even if she completely misses you by swinging the opposite direction

[quasi willow]

What move?

[lament barn]

Idk the name but it’s her swingin the bat forward

Not her up swing her side swing

[quasi willow]

It does hit pretty far

[lament barn]

I just watched it completely and utterly miss and I still got obliterated

[modern perch]

I think a king of the hill like lobby from mortal kombat would work awesomely into this game

[remote osprey]

Is the game gonna be free on full releases? And if not is there an estimated price

[winter ridge]

already told them with the first form we had at the end of first beta and still it didn't move

[sage timber]

please nerf taz’s tornado or the character itself

[modern perch]

Yeah it’ll be free

[lament barn]

Yup

I like this game and it can be super fun but as it stands rn (I know it’s beta) it is so unbalanced it’s not even funny

And on top of that unbalancedness sits Harley and jake

The two most busted characters, I swear the only balanced character in the whole game rn is shaggy and it’s still pushing it

[mint orchid]

nerf taz

[opaque haven]

NERF TAZ

[winter ridge]

depends in which mod having wonderwoman and shaggy against me i really want to quit shaggy become a nightmare

[topaz ermine]

Nerf taz

[rigid cedar]

Nerf Taz pls

[winter ridge]

allow bugs bunny to be hit by his own vault and being spiked away

[devout void]

harley's projectiles need some nerfs, they are easily spammed and its hard to dodge because of their richochet properties.
though yeah shaggy is perfectly balanced, honestly id be shocked if they adjust him again anytime soon, he feels perfect and at the level the game needs to be balanced

i really hope that some of these battle pass rewards become available for gleamium later, and some gleamium items as battlepass rewards (just have alternate rewards if they already have them, like a character ticket, battlepass token, or gleamium)

[frail rain]

Its been said by many others, but please have gleamium be part of the Battlepass to some extent
No reason to have so many great skins when they're locked behind not only paywalls, but the sort where there is no other way to unlock them

[winter ridge]

bring back samurai batty anime one for 20 EUROS is a scam

[night aurora]

Aside from the other mentions, it may be a bit too Smash-ish but a “trophy” page explaining the origins of fighters and stages would be neat. Or a sound test page.

[frail rain]

a trophy page would be awesome, agreed

[devout void]

generally the common practice is to allow the user to regain all the gleamium they spent by completing the battle pass either rewarding gleamium over time, or giving it all back at the end.

i am worried though if they do the second they will make it nearly impossible to grind the battlepass to completion to prevent people from getting their gleamium back

its already extremely slow grinding pass exp playing matches

[cursive quarry]

Kinda hard to finish with wonder woman

[lime rune]

Nerf Taz to the point where he can’t move, attack, dodge, jump, crouch, or even emote

[pastel roost]

THERE SHOULD BE MORE WAYS TO GET GOLD

LIKE GIVING GOLD FOR DOING THE EXTRA TUTORIALS

[lime rune]

Now this is what I like to hear

[devout void]

heres my idea, let characters leveling up past 15 earn 250 gold every level

[pastel roost]

I THINK THEY SHOULD DO IT LIKE BRAWLHALLA

SO LIKE U DONT GET REWARS FOR LEVEL 16 17 18 19 BUT THEN LIKE 500 GOLD AT 20 AND LIKE A SKIN FOR LIKE LVL 30

ALSO IT WOULD LET PPL ACTUALLY SHOW THAT THEY PLAY THE CHARACTER

[lime rune]

A Batman skin I would possibly like to see is flashpoint Batman

[pastel roost]

THE ONE WHO LAUGHS BATMAN

[winter ridge]

why does every characters kit look too much overloaded taz can eat your projectile but also he is able to make it his own while tornado spam

[winter ridge]

bro chill no need to capslock

[lime rune]

Great idea maybe, custom entrances like make Batman ride in the batwing or Batmobile

[devout void]

custom defeat and victory screens would be nice too, while its pretty messed up, alot of people prefer the old garnet lose animation where she dies. (she poofs but like how she did when she got hit with the destabilizer where she turned to stone then fell to pieces, it got changed since the last test to the current one)

[bleak hawk]

bro im a lvl 22 taz and i will admit its toxic and he needs a nerf and yes im a hypocrite
but u gotta do what u gotta do to be top 50

[lime rune]

I hope your neighbor dog plays Multiversus and then you see the dog whooping you in the game

[bleak hawk]

LOL

[ionic ivy]

Feedback on Iron Giant:
Iron Giants rage mode doesn't feel intuitive or polished to me. Maybe it's because a lot of moves don't really have an animation to them. Rockets and lasers just kinda pop out. There is no weight behind it. I enjoy fighting in normal mode way more. At this point I wish the rage mode would just be the normal mode with enhanced attacks. I personally stopped using it - not because it's weak but because it's not fun.

[opaque haven]

You are correct

[lime rune]

This might seem like a stretch but what if we did a mk11 where we could change character moves like changing Batman’s ^+Y move to where he grapples the opponent down

[final jacinth]

superman is too op because his grabs have no cooldown.

[winter ridge]

dodge them

even play pretty close of death box

he'll k o himself just by going to far no matter the percent he got

[final jacinth]

can't when you are lagging in the match

beside he was exploiting my lag in one match

I'm on ps4 btw

[winter ridge]

what's the point of giving feedback based on fact that you do not experience the real game ?

[elder dew]

Bro add a major cooldown to taz’s tornado move that shi is annoying when they spam it

[jade niche]

nerf taz

[elder dew]

Im glad we agree bbg

[jade niche]

fr papi

[elder dew]

Wanna make out later homie on homie

[jade niche]

whats the addy

[elder dew]

shi right here rn

[winter ridge]

make jake down heavy not able to go through platform and shagy side b not moving down side

[elder dew]

Nah bro first thing is nerf the shi outta taz bro

[gray mauve]

I would love it if you could play against bots offline like you can in the lab it’s just not the same as a real match in the lab

[boreal bone]

cant you do that in custom lobbies?

[winter ridge]

sure you can

[gray mauve]

No you can’t it still needs to be online and I lag out and dc

[winter ridge]

my bad thought the game would lead you in offline lobby

[gray mauve]

Unfortunately not that I’ve found so far

[echo wasp]

MTX in this game are so expensive 😬

[winter ridge]

deactivate ally collision getting k o by my ally jake morphing into a house to ledge guard is a pain

[west ridge]

please let me strike stages I never want to play on scooby's mansion ever again

[feral rampart]

why are mission rerolls so expensive 💀 , it doesn't need to get more expensive everytime you reroll.

[grand lake]

I think u need to add customs so u can 3 of ur friends in the same lobby

[lean fjord]

Can you please fix the hitbox on supermans flying attack where he flys very slowly

its huge asf i got hit when his feet hit me

[severe jackal]

We shouldn't get challenges for using Mage and Support characters, when you don't start with mage and support characters lmao

[rose grove]

i think being asked to win games with certain classes in of itself is a dumb daily challenge idea, and almost always gets a reroll from me unless it's a bruiser

[devout void]

harley needs nerfs, her hitboxes are way to big and she's way too fast. not to mention she has insanely good projectiles. it just doesnt feel good to fight a harley at all when if they touch you, you basically die and you cant really touch her

if a character is so good that its not fun to fight against them, then its time for nerfs

[ruby tide]

game hella needs a connection quality option for matchmaking

hope it gets one before full beta launch

[sweet axle]

I'm having an issue where every time i try to buy gems it doesn't let me, I click it over and over again and nothing happens, i have uninstalled multiple times and restarted my game and computer too, is anyone else having this issue or has fixed it?
i also have a clip of it too idk what to do, i need this battle pass no cappa

[ruby tide]

ive had a bunch of matches where its hard to even tell whats going on or even someone getting extra knockbacks or bouncing off of nothing due to lag

[spark hazel]

Loving this game, and I actually disliked the scooby do stage until I learned how to control the platforms

I will say though it has the most uninteresting music out of all the stages so I thought of a solution

All other stages use an epic orchestral rendition of music, standouts being the adventure time and Steven universe arenas, though I think there should be music variety

Best solution I think is to replace or add a track to the scooby stage with a cool rock cover of the theme song, ideally, the “what’s new scooby do” song

I don’t know how difficult it would be but trust me when I say it would make that stage a fan favorite

[ruby tide]

to be honest i think all of the stage music is really bad. steven universe has so much good music to pull from for a fight, i think an orchestral version of the theme song is probably the worst thing they could've done

[spark hazel]

Personally I love it, but yea I love all of the songs, I think it’s amazing what they have but some variety is good, and for not all songs to be an orchestral take, though I’m happy with what we have now

I hope they plan to add different tracks to stages with so much potential, maybe an epic take on “everything stays” for The treehouse, or in a perfect world, micheal giachinnos theme for the Batman in the bat cave

[west pollen]

The game made me spend over 4000 coins because of a glitch and because of it I only have one character and my friends have 3-4 characters please fix your game!

[ruby tide]

i think the music should prioritize actually being action oriented more than being well known. my friend was listening to my stream of the game and thought i was still in the lobby because of how calm the music in the fights are

[spark hazel]

Yea, hence songs like the Batman’s theme, or especially stronger then You being a good first choice for them, much more of a “fighting” feel

Big Adventure time songs are kinda tricky since they’re more often then not chill, but a cover or obscure ep song could work

[barren abyss]

I have just one wish. Please disable multiple Heroes in one team.

[night compass]

Gold grinding is like ios game grinding but harder

And the battle pass could use a couple more tiers ngl but thats just me

[pure raft]

It's heavily time based... i just finished another 2 hour session to get bout 480 maybe 520 golds ... after doing like 16 sets (32 games against bots)

we need some help in the gold department

[night compass]

💀💀💀
2hours for 480

[visual coral]

monetization in this game is scummy asf

[pure raft]

also just noticed that daily u get an extra 100g for ur first victory

[visual coral]

$40 for standard founder's pack which includes a banner, 15 character tickets and less than $5 of premium currency? thats scummy and totally just FOMO

[pure raft]

and at lv21 profile the exp required to get to a new level it's 5600exp... you get 400exp for 2 victories in a set so... my next lvl up (100g will be in around 14sets) if i counted correctly

[visual coral]

yeah leveling is too slow

[pure raft]

it's more like once u reach an high level, you won't level up within the hour , you're gonna need 2 hours or more the higher ur level gets, but honestly i could care less of that level if the gold was good

[visual coral]

idk like im level 8 and im already having to spend a lot of time to level up

[pure raft]

trust me... ur gonna cherish that time lol

but starting from lvl 18 onward ur gonna need a full hour non stop to try to get that lvl up

[visual coral]

jeez yeah that needs to be fixed

[pure raft]

at ur current level i'm pretty sure 4 to 5 sets are probably gonna be enough for each level up

and this is only for characters i ain't even gonna try to unlock a goddamn extra perk on a character lol

those are a 100g each when u some other character has that perk but that's like 4 sets each 100g (you get 120g in that case, so at least the next 2 perks ur gonna need 90g / 3 sets)

[visual coral]

perks are kinda useless for the most part

[pure raft]

in 1v1 maybe but when u pair em in 2v2 and they stack they do wonders

[visual coral]

oh yeah i dont play 2v2 much so i wouldnt know LOL

[pure raft]

get a friend and a proper build and u can get some damage done

[visual coral]

kinda worrying reminds me of sf x tekken

[pure raft]

also all those numbers are for a 2v2 matches, 1v1 is kinda pointless for coin grind

[eternal moon]

god finn just wont stop attacking a single second

[pure raft]

u spend more or less the same amount of time but for 6g less

so u might as well use the chaos from the bots to just close em up quickly... also they can't deal with iron giant so ehi, it's faster as well lol

[devout void]

if battle pass leveling normally is gonna be so slow, change the multiplier for rest exp so it isnt useless

2x exp when its already single digit is nothing, make it 5x or 10x so having rest exp actually gives a substantial and tangible boost

make seasonal challenges refresh weekly, you can get done with them so quickly it isnt even funny

[woeful nexus]

nothing for playing in closed beta?

[void pine]

rly enjoying the game but id rly like a replay system like in brawlhalla so I can go back and clip matches after ive played them

[pallid bobcat]

Rofl just nerf taz 🙂

[devout void]

no but alpha testers got an exclusive icon and banner

[night compass]

Not much tbh

[devout void]

its a nice animated banner

the icon is of taz though, which im not a fan of

[young ridge]

I really love the visuals and SFX in the game, even the interactions between the characters means that the devs took their time to make a great game.
Some characters are a bit stronger then the other but those can all be fixed, I don't have any other complaints

[mossy escarp]

someone get me a dev right now

[spark hazel]

As the guy said above, I love this game and the devs deserve all the praise for making one of if not the best big ip crossover game ever, smash is gaming exclusive really so I count it differently

Only thing that should get some work is the music as I stated above but you guys knocked it out of the park

[devout void]

yeah music is a bit bland, i honestly forget its even there, its not bad, its just not good either

i think either do really stylized tracks based off the shows or do some original stuff

[turbid osprey]

it would be cool to have an ingame message system

i've been playing custom 1v1s with someone over and over, but it sucks we can't communicate with each other, so we could throw together a team or something !

[eternal moon]

why not add him?

[turbid osprey]

they're a playstation player

i've added them, but i prefer to have a voice chat when im in a team, for better communication !

[eternal moon]

ohh yeah, I don't think there's a way to get in contact with ps players at all yet

even as a team there's no chat right?

[turbid osprey]

correct !

we're playing as a team now, but we can't communicate

we're both top 200 garnet players, so it'd be cool to swap tips and techs !

[celest pivot]

put cooldown on every special ffs

[heavy geyser]

Double Taz, taz-nado spam is a problem... and they can spam the same move and still get ring outs... come on now

[celest pivot]

remove taznado and shaggy kick or nerf them ty

[short minnow]

There is a lot of lag with cross play. Also, after Shaggy’s kick and taz-nado if they get you off the ledge you’re dead bc none of the buttons work to recover. I can spam jump or doge from now till next year and it won’t work, tbh none of the buttons do. You just free fall. Also, some of garnets punch hit boxes go behind them when they’re clearly hitting forward.

[eternal moon]

personally i feel taz nado needs to be a bit less longer and just buff knockback

[winter ridge]

depend on which character you play (batman up heavy work at some percent) but it isn't the good channel to speak of it

[short minnow]

Tbh, I think it should be insanely punishable bc in the cartoons after he spins he gets dizzy so it’d be a high risk reward thing plus bc of the high risk I think spam would be less likely.

[eternal moon]

just read the frame data

[winter ridge]

do you have a real one that is up to date ?

[trail cedar]

So far I’m not having a great time playing this game.

First off the new pricing and monetization. It’s pretty dreadful. Character prices having different values and not 1 flat price, characters that were free in the Alpha are now paid which punishes those that want to play the characters from the previous Alpha and makes the base roaster feel emptier, taunts from the Alpha that were on by default are now paid? And cost 500 premium currency when you can only buy up to 450 for 5 dollars? What is this crap? Coin rates are worse which is a clear effort to get impatient players to spend more money and making the grind unbearable. Until this changes and the game becomes friendlier to the consumer and less of a over minimized hell scape I won’t be coming back which is a real shame because I enjoyed the Alpha to some extent and the concept of the game is really amazing and I love WB properties

Also characters like Superman, Batman, Finn, and Bugs Bunny are paid characters? WHY? These are iconic characters that should be FREE in the base roaster. You’re telling me a WB crossover game you have to buy Bugs Bunny?

[pure raft]

after the beta launches Finn / Sup / Garnet / Raindog will be the free ones

[trail cedar]

That’s still not enough

[winter ridge]

it changed from one beta to another one i think it is mostly so that people who don't play much can actually try some other characters

[pure raft]

i honestly don't care really who's free, in the end i care how fast i can unlock em and look i already did the math, it won't be pretty xD

[trail cedar]

Smash Bros doesn’t make you grind for hours to play as Mario.

[pure raft]

Smash is a PAID product, don't bring in a game that you pay for money

[winter ridge]

smash isn't free ffs stop with low reflection

[pure raft]

look i get the frustration but it's one thing to complain bout the obviously tailored grind, the other is bringing a game that you have to pay to begin with to play

[trail cedar]

Nick All Stars doesn’t make you pay for SpongeBob, PlayStation All Stars doesn’t make you pay for Kratos. Doesn’t matter if this is a free game their choice of what is free and what is paid is ludicrous

[winter ridge]

THEY ARE NOT F2P GAMES

come on take your time read article on internet

and think again

[trail cedar]

Batman is literally on the cover of the game yet you have to pay for him

[pure raft]

... but those are paid products and you still gotta pay DLC to get Zeus / Isaac

F2P is always a different model, i hate the crap they're trying to pull with the grind, but there ain't no way i would make a comparison like that, those 2 are different models entirely

[trail cedar]

Why couldn’t the founders pack just do what Brawlhalla did and have all characters be unlocked for 20 bucks?

[trail cedar]

It doesn’t matter my point still stand you are being forced to grind for hours or pay real world money to play as characters that are literally ingrained into the WB IP in the WB game. I expect this crap from a mobile game but a console release I should at least have all the main mascots of WB be free

And again they are making you pay for characters that were already free in the previous build which is annoying and redundant. Why even make us pay for characters when they have a battle pass and all kinds of other crap for us to waste money on anyway? Did they really need to make us pay a premium currency to get characters?

[strong parrot]

I mean the characters are gonna rotate anyways so even if they were free now they wouldn't be in like a week or so

[trail cedar]

Wait they rotate??? Why???

[strong parrot]

So people can try characters they haven't unlocked...?

[winter ridge]

how do you make your game sell if there is no price for it ? by making people spend time and money in the game

simple rule in ANY marketing thing if you don't pay the product then YOU are the product

[strong parrot]

Don't other free to play games do that? Like league and brawlhalla?

[winter ridge]

almost every f2p work like this but it seems he is not aware

[trail cedar]

Brawlhalla let’s you get every base character aside from promo stuff for 20 dollars with a founders pack

[trail cedar]

There are more effective and less anti consumer ways of creating player engagement that forcing players to buy over half of the playable roaster

[strong parrot]

I personally don't mind the characters being locked and taking a while to grind, I'm fine maining certain characters and by the time I'm tired of who I'm playing I have about enough to buy someone new, but I understand the gold gain is pretty slow so winning matches doesn't feel real rewarding right now

[trail cedar]

Idk how you can defend this crap

[winter ridge]

bro you spend 30 minutes crying for nothin 30 minutes you could have gather gold by playing

[strong parrot]

It'd be nice if they increased it atleast a little bit so I feel more comfortable buying perks

[trail cedar]

Grinding in video games is a waste of time when the grind is unfair

[winter ridge]

unfair would mean you can't win if you don't do it

[trail cedar]

It’s clearly designed to get people impatient so they waste money on coins

[strong parrot]

Don't think you can buy coins

[winter ridge]

ofc it's the very basic of marketing are you some kind dreamy people ?

[trail cedar]

It’s unfair to lowball players with stupid low coin counts for winning matches just to unlock 1 character after grinding for hours on end

It’s not fun idk how you can’t see that

[winter ridge]

@strong parrot gleamium is paid money it allow you to buy characters just like other f2p

[ripe zealot]

I'm not playing to unlock characters, I'm playing to get dubs.

[winter ridge]

you could also get ticket from founders pack to get characters

[strong parrot]

Yeah I know about gleamium, meant specifically coins you earn which I don't think you can buy

[ripe zealot]

The coins come with the dubs. Win win.

[winter ridge]

nah only gold and you need to play to get it

[trail cedar]

You don’t get enough coins to get characters and is a waste of time

[ripe zealot]

Waste of time? Nah, all the time is put to good use. Getting dubs.

[winter ridge]

you keep looping venny play character untill level 5 do 2v2 with a friend give toast and do your mission

[strong parrot]

I do think they should really consider changing how cosmetics are priced, skins, emotes, and ringout animations are definitely priced in a way to make you have to buy extra gleamium and feels pretty scummy

[trail cedar]

Getting dubs isn’t satisfying when the only thing you need to do to win is spam the same move with Iron Giant (a paid character btw) and instantly win

[winter ridge]

i agree on cosmectics 20 euros a single skin is way too much

[strong parrot]

I get they need to make a profit but just hurts having emotes that we had in the alpha get replaced with basically reused win animations

Like toms default emote is just his character select pose

[ripe zealot]

Find a way to counter him? Idk what to tell you. I play jus fine against him.

[trail cedar]

I might as well be playing cookie clicker because it’s the same premise but less tedious

[ripe zealot]

Then play that?

You're asking for a lot for a game that came out two days ago. I agree that the coins should be upped, but comparing it to a cookie cutter is a Lil unfair.

[winter ridge]

you loose because you're impatient against iron giant if you can hit first combo if you whiff wait for him to try a ground pound THEN beat his ass

[strong parrot]

Gotta say I think they did a pretty good job at making IG surprisingly balanced, in that he's pretty middle of the road in strength

Not too strong but not trash either

[trail cedar]

Most of the issues I have with MultiVersus from the Alpha haven’t been fixed and made worse. Combat just feels so empty and mashy and none of the moves feel like they have any impact. It just feels so weird and unsatisfying. Even with as bad as Nick All Stars can be at least the movement and attacks in the game feel impactful. In MultiVersus nothing feels like it connects

[strong parrot]

So props to the devs for that

Dunno the combat feels pretty fun to me, but to each their own

[ripe zealot]

Idk, that Shaggy kick has plenty of impact.

[trail cedar]

Even when I was doing decently well with Shaggy I just didn’t feel like my moves were doing anything

The knock back and general feel of the game just isn’t rewarding

[strong parrot]

Doing the charged up kick through two people is pretty satisfying

[ripe zealot]

His down spike is effective too. Harley is pretty dangerous too.

[strong parrot]

The up attack from bugs feels good as well

Also all of superman's charge attacks basically

[trail cedar]

I think Bugs feels awful

[turbid osprey]

i think you're not playing with intent

[trail cedar]

Nothing about Bugs feels right. It’s like all his moves just don’t work

[strong parrot]

He has a lot of setup so it might take getting used to

But when you get the hang of him he's pretty strong

[lone kiln]

i hate this the game is region locked in asia

[winter ridge]

people place iron giant as a bottom tier character

[trail cedar]

I am. I played the Alpha the whole way through. Got Shaggy up to level 12 and Jake to level 10. It was promising but now I’m just completely bummed and the game feels shallow

[turbid osprey]

levels don't mean much in the face of skill

if it feels mashy, you're definitely not playing with intent

make sure you're thinking your moves through

[trail cedar]

A game feeling mashy doesn’t mean I’m not playing with intent. Even when I was playing without doing mashy combos it felt bad. And mashing is what got me most of my wins so what’s the point of even playing with intent if the combat doesn’t even reward playing with intent?

[near ore]

why do some people have the battlepass items from the closed beta i was in that and i didnt keep anything from it at all none of the battle pass items

[turbid osprey]

mashing literally means no intent

you're pressing random buttons if you're mashing

[trail cedar]

Mashy gets rewarded
Playing with intent isn’t rewarded
The game isn’t fun because playing with intent isn’t rewarding

[turbid osprey]

i'm at rank 600 and i do not feel that mashy gets rewarded

[trail cedar]

The percentages of knock back and KOs are so high that playing with intent and playing smart isn’t rewarding because of how long it takes to kill. So instead of something like Smash where you play with intent and get rewarded for being smart MultiVersus you are constantly being punished for playing creatively because of the lack of damage output. Doing mashy combos with Shaggy I got a lot more wins than carefully planning my moves and reading the players attacks

[turbid osprey]

if i mashed at these levels of matchups, I would lose.

this is a very well crafted game with a few balancing issues, like taz's whirlwind

combos aren't mashy, you chain them

people combo in smash as well; it's a massive part of platform fighting games

[trail cedar]

It was mashing the square button and doing up airs and forward airs over and over because the stun you got doing it was so high. So yeah I was rewarded for doing something that has less intent

[eternal moon]

how long have you been playing?

[trail cedar]

Since the last Alpha

[eternal moon]

weird, cause mashing really doesn't work in higher MMRs

[turbid osprey]

agree

[trail cedar]

It worked for me

[eternal moon]

guess you're lucky then

[turbid osprey]

then you didnt play long enough to ride a win streak to higher mmrs

[trail cedar]

Well the gameplay loop wasn’t very entertaining for me to keep playing. Especially with the lack of stage select so I was just hoping to not get a crappy stage to play on

[eternal moon]

so you're playing with low MMR players, of course mashing will work, theres a lot of kids playing this game

finally hit top 800 again, its really hard to keep track of 2v2 and 1v1 at the same time

[trail cedar]

I can’t imagine playing with higher MMR being anymore satisfying than what I played

[eternal moon]

got to 800 in 1v1, now I'm back at 15k in 2v2

[trail cedar]

Don’t feel like playing for hours to get to a point of having fun

[turbid osprey]

agree, they're totally different games

[eternal moon]

if you don't enjoy the game, I really don't see your point

[turbid osprey]

i can't say which i prefer - they're both great though !!

[pure raft]

i might be bitchin a lot bout the grinding (it's bad) but the game in of itself IS FUN

[turbid osprey]

oh, the grind is insane, but the game is great

[eternal moon]

I'm enjoying 1v1 more, 2v2 is a bit too chaotic for me, but I still like to play it with my friend

[eternal moon]

no one doubts that lol, I just hit lvl 23 with bugs at 337 matches

[trail cedar]

I’d rather just play Smash. The only reason I have to play this is the characters and cosmetics because I like WB. But now it’s just impossible to unlock anything without paying money

[eternal moon]

well you did pay for smash

[trail cedar]

Smash I get 80+ characters and an infinitely more content rich game for less money

[eternal moon]

oh definitely, this game didn't even launch yet

[tiny stag]

just get good wit one character?

[turbid osprey]

then play it ? this is a different game, and if you don't vibe with it, that's fine - maybe you just need to stick with it so it sorts out your MMR, and you can't progress until you play with intent

[trail cedar]

I’m good with Jake and Shaggy. I wanna play Tom and Jerry again but I don’t feel like wasting my time grinding again

[turbid osprey]

i think it's important to be in a voice chat, imo

[eternal moon]

definitely. even though it's pretty fast paced and it works like telepathy, sometimes you need to talk to each other to do something specific

[trail cedar]

Grind makes games infinity worse and is the reason I dropped multiplayer games altogether because the market has been ruined by monetization. Only multiplayer games I enjoy are FGs and even now those are annoying and filled with MTX crap

[eternal moon]

yknow, I have a friend who also didn't like the game; you know what he did? he said "hey man, sorry but I just don't like this" and that was it

I don't know if you expect WB to change the whole game to the way you want it or?

[trail cedar]

The issue here is I WANT to like it but I can’t and I know it can be better

[mighty granite]

There is a reason why it is in beta

[turbid osprey]

a sentiment i agree with. i'm not a man of premium game currency, even if it's cosmetic, but the game itself its good and pretty balanced atm, with some notable exceptions

[eternal moon]

you want this to be smash dude, that's just not it

[turbid osprey]

100% in the top 500 it's insanely fast paced and you need to know your partner fairly well

[trail cedar]

At least drop the over the top impossible to effectively grind coin system and maybe I’ll play for the character but like why did they have to do this? I get it’s F2P but why make it so anti consumer?

[turbid osprey]

the grind is big, the cosmetics are expensive, sure, but you weren't critiquing that earlier.

i agree with this point, but i dont think the game is mashy

[trail cedar]

Brawlhalla did it just fine and it was affordable. Why is this so expensive?

[pure raft]

DOUBLE IRON GIANTS u_u

[eternal moon]

isn't it crazy how you can just read your partner's mind sometimes though? sometimes you just pull out a coop play out of ur butt without saying a word

[eternal moon]

oh I agree, even more being brazilian it's pretty expensive, even the battle pass with only 15 levels

[eternal moon]

I had a stroke reading this

[mighty granite]

Have about 500h of 2's time with a friend on brawlhalla. This is very true

Semi transferred to this game too

[eternal moon]

it's legit hype when it happens lol

[turbid osprey]

double ig, double taz, a few others

[eternal moon]

bruh I looked away for 5 minutes to chat here and I'm down to 900, holy crap

[turbid osprey]

otherwise, it's really shaping up to be fairly awesome - great community too !

[turbid osprey]

saturation is CRAZY im just clinging to 800 rn

[mighty granite]

I love the fact that they have embraced alot of meme culture

It's a thing of beauty

[turbid osprey]

all the little touches are great. the screen goes blurry when you're velma and you crawl on the floor looking for your glases

[mighty granite]

Can't wait for them to add Walter white

[turbid osprey]

who do you main ?

[pure raft]

look bottom line is:

• Grinding is bad
• game is fun, just lil bit bare bone

[mighty granite]

Beta

Whilst there isn't alot

[pure raft]

meh, i can't immagine the game improving on the grind if this is the base line, only thing that'll change is probably the battle pass, which might increase

[mighty granite]

What we do have is well polished

[pure raft]

as for content, i'm sure they'll add on the long run, i just hope the grinding gets improved cause right now... oof

[eternal moon]

bugs, the annoying b

[turbid osprey]

the actual core of the game is BRILLAINT

feels very precise, and theres a lot of depth

im still learning tech

[pure raft]

cough except double giants ... i'm a culprit :3

[agile forum]

please for the love of god nerf taz tornado

[turbid osprey]

yeah, that's fair

[mighty granite]

Throw out any disjointed hitbox and you can counter it

[turbid osprey]

not in 2v2

[mighty granite]

That's fair.

[silent aspen]

so uhh i have a question anyone else having really bad connection while in any other games its good?

[mighty granite]

No. Outside of my normal internet blips my connection is fine

[turbid osprey]

yeah, connection is butter smooth

[silent aspen]

damn me and my friends always have orange internet connection and now only red

what servers do yall play on?

[turbid osprey]

im based in europe

[silent aspen]

welp not good info for me cuz me too

[eternal moon]

yes, my friend has that sometimes

randomly while playing we'll get into a match where he just can't play cause of lag

[silent aspen]

oh ye, pretty much same only in some matches i have red one

[mighty granite]

@silent aspen whereabouts in Europe do you play?

[hardy crown]

please fix the server lag this game is unplayable

[pure nova]

#1 You're forced to play hours in the game just to unlock a character
if you wanted to make it take this long you should've at least made it
so you can get gold in custom matches
#2 The battle pass takes just as long as the 50 tier battle pass that
was in closed alpha, but has less items
#3 There's no rank system which is horrible.
#4 Custom 1v1s or 2v2s bring down your mmr. which makes no sense thats not how it should be.

Overall it feels like it's hard to have a free to play experience without getting burnt out.
The closed alpha was 100x more fun

[burnt patio]

I know it's still on Open Beta and I am really having fun playing with the game but I'm playing from the Philippines and a Southeast Asian region servers would be greatly appreciated. The region lock is also preventing me for a potential purchase which kinda sucks cuz I want to support the game! The lag is killing me.

[silent aspen]

Poland

[eternal moon]

We really need a report button, the amount of spamming and tbaging guys is just enormous

[turbid osprey]

1: gold in custom matches is a good shout

2: i think they were trying a smaller one (as in, as long, just less items) for the beta, to work out the balance - they said it wont be as small next time

3: every 2v2 or 1v1 match you play outside of a custom lobby is ranked - check your place on the leaderboard in the top left !!

4: do they ? i dont think they do ?

[silent aspen]

but its the part of the game?

[eternal moon]

tbaging? rly? xD

[silent aspen]

ye? its the part of most of fps games you don't get banned by this cuz it doesn't harm you anyway

[turbid osprey]

yeah, neither tbagging nor spamming is against the rules

in regards to spamming - they'll balance the game so spamming isn't a viable strategy, and honestly, it really isn't unless you're double taz. Even then, it can be beat!

in regards to tbagging, that's just a thing people will do lmao

[silent aspen]

the only thing we could report would be going off stage by meaning it but it's not that bad anyway

[turbid osprey]

sorry, what do you mean ?

[silent aspen]

when your teamate just goes off stage 4 times

[turbid osprey]

OH, gotcha

[silent aspen]

ye but that happends once for like 30 games so it's not really that big of a problem

[turbid osprey]

i don't play teams with randoms, so i never see it

[burnt patio]

There's already a penalty when spamming moves, it's called Attack Decay.

For the T-Bagging, that's pretty normal.

[hardy crown]

for high knockback moves like taznado and shaggys side kick attack decay literally does nothing because the damage isnt the problem its consistently getting flung off the side of the map by an uncancellable move that they can do again and again without falter thats the problem

[strong parrot]

One thing I have a gripe with aside from the monetization is how the streamer mode is implemented, it says it mutes any copyright music but it just outright mutes all music in the game and I'm assuming the game can't ALL be copyright music, if it is then that's a whole problem of its own and they need to include some original tracks so the streaming experience is better. So far I haven't seen any streamer get hit for playing with music but it'd be nice if that wasn't something people had to worry about.

[turbid osprey]

agree, agree; not against the rules, but they are patching it !

[strong parrot]

They seem to be putting focus on the game getting streamed and marketed on twitch so they should put more effort in the streamer mode imo

[silent aspen]

on the tornado they could just give a cooldown? not sure how much it will affect the character tho

[eternal moon]

I would say a lot about tbagging, but i would never say its "normal"

its like the only toxic thing you can do in game without chat so

[silent aspen]

ofc it's not normal but it happends in most of the games where u can crouch

[hardy crown]

^ i dont think tbagging will ever be not a thing and if you dont tbag ive seen people just spam the emote so you just see its startup over and over so im sure theyll find other ways

[strong parrot]

I mean the game encourages emoting by having challenges to do it at the start of the match so...

[silent aspen]

yup, tbagging is also fun thing to do with iron giant for example i find it pretty funny

[strong parrot]

don't think that's stuff to get too upset about in this, a lot of time I'll taunt but also give toast after the match

[silent aspen]

yeah same

[hardy crown]

yeah im not saying a bad thing just not something i think they can get rid of

[turbid osprey]

why do you think this ?

[muted abyss]

not sure if i'd call him op for his but his flight has pretty insane recovery and it being a command grab ontop of that is pretty annoying

[lunar spoke]

REMOVE SCOOBY DOO MAP

[muted abyss]

oh ye haunted house straight dooky

my man out here had to step away mid match to file a complaint with HR

[hardy crown]

i like haunted mansion :(

[turbid osprey]

you just need to learn how to counter superman

[turbid osprey]

yeah, i can see this - i can counter it, but it forces me to play very differently and be hyper aware of a recovering sman

not as differently as taz tornado, so it's not as finnicky, but i could see it being nerfed

i don't run into too much trouble with it though

[winter ridge]

do something for iron giant he makes the game unreadable it's super annoying you can't see anything

[muted abyss]

I think it had less to do with IG and more how small some of then maps are

[turbid osprey]

the alpha was last month for a bit, this is the beta, which came out about 3 days ago i think, and the full release is sometime in early august if i remember correctly

[muted abyss]

like Haunted House and Batcave become full on killboxes in 2v2s and IG just makes that worse

[turbid osprey]

haunted house is insane

[past bear]

Remove taz

[turbid osprey]

dont throw the baby out with the bathwater, taz doesn't need to be removed - a nerf would be fine

[muted abyss]

was wondering why i hadn't seen any taz complaints in feedback today, good to see some things stay the same forever

[past bear]

Yeah i was kidding about removing him but nerf would be so nice

[wintry ferry]

why? did you face a double taz ?

[past bear]

Spin spin spin spin

[past bear]

Ye

[wintry ferry]

lmao cause ive won 30 games in a row spamming double taz

[past bear]

Me and my friend did too its too op thats why it should be nerfed

[wintry ferry]

does anyone else not gain MMR for a win? me and my friend win but he gains nothing while i gain more MMR

[turbid osprey]

happened to my friend, yeah !

it seems like if you invite someone, they get less mmr ?

[wintry ferry]

whats the fix, cause i went from 300k to 17k and hes stuck at 121k

[turbid osprey]

it's happened with two of my friends - there's no fix that i've found

[wintry ferry]

cant be cause he invited me and still gained nothing

[turbid osprey]

huh, weird