game-feedback

[turbid rover]

And his ways of dealing with meeseeks is limited as well

[grizzled bane]

L. M. A. O.

[vital rampart]

A good Jason is quite a monster regardless of projectiles ngl, at least from my time playing with him. His neutral-special is fun.

[sharp fjord]

the thing is that now you need way more touches to finish heavy characters like jason as Rick

since we don't have longer combos

[wise tusk]

Have you seen a good Jason? ☠️

They are absolutely disgusting

[gentle zinc]

👀

[sharp fjord]

so it makes the fight last longer and gives jason more opportunity to cheese his way out

[vital rampart]

💯

[sharp fjord]

jason needs way fewer touches to kill than Rick now

Rick has low damage and no combos

[viscid pike]

jab jab side special

[gentle zinc]

Not a good Jason

[vital rampart]

Can we give Jason laser beams for his new down special on the ground please? #MakeJasonRealistic

[wise tusk]

Not a good jason 😭🙏

[turbid rover]

Good player ≠ good character

[wise tusk]

Bad Player ≠ Bad character

[turbid rover]

Jason isn’t a good character?

[gentle zinc]

I mean...

[turbid rover]

😭

Jake isn’t either

Rick is a lot better than them

And we can debate it if you’d like

[wise tusk]

Jason is a nightmare to fight against when there not brain-dead, I don’t know who you're fighting to consider him bad 😭🙏

[wise tusk]

Not my character, not my problem

[viscid pike]

a good player knows how to use all of their moves, unlike jonkler players (atleast the ones i face on diamond)

[wise tusk]

I just want Rick reverted ☠️
You can still win with Rick by just spamming his side | timing a ground special into his whip, but it's such a unfun and unearned experience 😭🙏

[gentle zinc]

Gotta let go of your old way of playing him 👀

He's not meant to be a jab bot anymore

[viscid pike]

btw is jacks side special with full focus nerfed or is it a bug

[wise tusk]

I'm NOT playing a game that wants it's gameplay this boring ☠️

[gentle zinc]

Nerfed I believe

[viscid pike]

fair enough

[gentle zinc]

Yeah it's nerfed

[turbid rover]

Jason can easily be edge guarded and forced to losing situations only redeeming quality he has is high kill potential and armor character specific combos work on Jason he can easily be baited so on and so on if you get Jason off stage with Rick it’s literally a free stock

[vital rampart]

Why does Steven keeps recieving nerfs. 😟 granted idrk how impactful they are but let the guy live his best universe. 🥺

[viscid pike]

i think the ground knockback combo got nerfed too

[wise tusk]

#game-feedback message

[wise tusk]

I'm spending half of the match time on the other side of the map spamming his gun, that's not fun for anyone involved ☠️

[gentle zinc]

Everything on him got nerfed 😂

[turbid rover]

Can I not have a counter argument?

[viscid pike]

tbh the new beetlejuice skin feels more like an epic rather then a legendary. did the do this on purpose for price increase in the bundle?

[grizzled bane]

Use armor breaking moves. Congrates. You've counter Jason.

[wise tusk]

You're arguing with someone who could not care less about what other people think about Jason 😭🙏

[viscid pike]

no problem for me tbh

[turbid rover]

You literally said he wasn’t bad tho

[gentle zinc]

I figured you just wanted to know

[turbid rover]

And you’re wrong

[grizzled bane]

PFG, ignore this troll's feedback input. He's just here to make MVS a worse game

[wise tusk]

That's my opinion from the Jason's I've fought, I'm not interested in going in a back and fourth over this, I just want Rick reverted ☠️

[wise tusk]

Disagrees with you = trolling
Cheers mate 👍
I don't care about Jason, I just want rick reverted 😭🙏

[vital rampart]

Rickverted. 😏

[gentle zinc]

Yo 😂

[turbid rover]

But Rick being reverted isn’t a good change

[vital rampart]

Yo 😎

[sharp fjord]

these weren't the changes Rick needed

[wise tusk]

How? ☠️
He's been turned into a more spammy character that isn't able to get any well-earned combos off, that's fun for literally no-one 😭

[sharp fjord]

especially because he was never a top tier

exactly

they said the wanted to move away from camping

and remove his combo game to make him spammy?

[turbid rover]

He’s been turned into a character that actually needs to play neutral and have good setups to win and can’t just rely on jab strings

[sharp fjord]

I don't think you know what you're saying... most of his game was neutral

[twilit eagle]

I want a gifting option with all available currencies

I want to use my character tickets on my friends

[sharp fjord]

he had a great control of neutral because it was a manace rushing into him because you could get caught by the jab

but now he only has neutral

by ways of pew pew

and that's it

[turbid rover]

Rick players didn’t need to play good neutral since they really just had to land jabs to get strings and get high damage that was the problem with the character you got jabbed over and over and multiple people jab fished

[wise tusk]

I'm genuinely wondering if you've ever played | fought against a Rick
He doesn't need any good-set ups now, he's not harder or more "Well learned" I'm absolutely rolling lobbies with just waiting and spamming the same five moves, it's just not fun ☠️

[sharp fjord]

Rick's combos used to take like 6-7 different moves in a single combo

not counting the repeated ones

[wise tusk]

Lower Risk = Higher reward

[sharp fjord]

but boring gameplay

pew pew

comboing as Rick was so satisfying

[gentle zinc]

Try dair maybe

[wise tusk]

That's not fun for people fighting him or using him 😔

[gentle zinc]

It's day 1 I'm pretty sure Rick will fine

[fathom kelp]

This is honestly a really great patch they should pay attention to joker a lil more tho

[brave otter]

I'm not getting my crates from rifts...
I might not be able to actually get lvl 9s because of this glitchy mess of a game, and if I have to PAY GLEAM FOR GEMS BECAUSE OF THIS GARBAGE...

[gentle zinc]

He's just a good character if you ask me. I don't really think he's that bad to the point of needing more nerfs

[grizzled bane]

You know, for an assassin, Beetlejuice kinda struggles killing

[wise tusk]

Did you hear a thing I said? 😭
He's not weakened, he's just not fun and takes literally zero skill, you've completely ruined all potential this character had 😩

[fathom kelp]

I do not agree joker is still pretty insane after all these months

[fathom kelp]

What?

[grizzled bane]

Besides his hammer neutral attack, his other moves are hard to hit and strangely small

[fathom kelp]

Dawg 😭

bj is literally perfect rn

[small raptor]

played 16 pvp unranked games and did not get any event xp; nor is the rift event working...

[turbid rover]

He’s not very good

[grizzled bane]

1. No he ain't
2. Don't abbreviate his name dude

[gentle zinc]

I think y'all are just refusing to learn a better way of playing the game because no platform fighter ever has all of its neutral.start with jabs all the time for every character. I don't play him so I can't say much but I think it's just y'all having immediate knee-jerk reactions

[fathom kelp]

bj is fine you just got to get better

[turbid rover]

He’s not good tho

[gentle zinc]

I main the second most combo fodder character I think you can do it if I can Joker is annoying I agree but come on...

[wise tusk]

"Y'all are just refusing a better way of playing the game"
You're right, taking out all skill needed for Rick and turning him into a broken spammer that isn't fun for anyone, is SO MUCH BETTER 🙏

[fathom kelp]

he definitely needs to be looked into more

No insane nerfs but something to get that combo that can kill at 60 gone

[fathom kelp]

Delusion

[wise tusk]

Think their just agurement baiting tbh ☠️

[fathom kelp]

Im seeing it 🧐

[gentle zinc]

Maybe they just wanted to give it more time then but he doesn't destroy me anymore and once I play today's update for sure won't be.. but who knows maybe next update they nerf the combo

[gentle zinc]

He's a mage man they all kinda spam it just figuring out what combos or how to combo it

[turbid rover]

He has a lot of end lag okay buttons terrible neutral only one way of dealing with projectiles and strange hitboxes

And bad recovery

Low ways of killing vertically

[gentle zinc]

I'm just watching for the most part on this Rick thing I've never agreed but didn't wanna fight about it

[fathom kelp]

Man bj mains downplaying already ⁉️ 🙏

[sharp fjord]

Joker is a mage

no spamming projectiles

[wise tusk]

"He's a mage"
He's not a very fun one then 🗣️

Absolutely just ruined him for the sake of it 😭

[turbid rover]

Bj main? No

[sharp fjord]

I'm just gonna try to stay away from this game until they figure out what they're doing

btw, marvel rivals is streaming with reveals and announcements

on twitch

[wise tusk]

I only played Rick because he was a fun character that took genuine skill with High Risk and Medium Reward, this update completely changes his fun and challenging play-style into "Rocket Spam!" .... "SIDE AIR!" its not fun 😭

All of my interest for this game just died immediately ☠️

[gentle zinc]

I'll be honest I think you just got skill issues. Though imma recommend you asking the council of Rick's since they play him too they'll have better feedback for you

By council of Rick's I meant the Rick players chat

[wise tusk]

I had a skill issue, I don’t now since he takes absolutely zero skill 😭🙏

[gentle zinc]

I'm sorry I can't help.you maybe just don't spam.

[stuck sable]

PLEASE for the love of christ nerf Black Adam's CLAP

HE IS SO CAMPY

He spends the entire goddamn game inside his anti projectile bubble ONLY spamming his down attack feet tickle and his projectile. And if you get close he CONSTANTLY spams his CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP or his lightning and there is absolutely goddamn nothing you can do about it until his crappy little bubble is gone

His Bubble lasts way too long and his CLAP has WAY too huge range with no whiff

[empty gulch]

YALL NERFED JAKE?

YOU SAID HE WOULD BE ADDRESSED THIS PATCH

LIARS!!!!

[balmy bloom]

Yo pfg I haven't played yet but you need to remove this beetlejuice loop and velma 0td asap

It cannot be allowed in

[gentle zinc]

Next one

[cyan patrol]

This patch did absolutely nothing to prevent move spamming. In fact it happens even more now thanks to priority over jab

[alpine leaf]

is this welcome to the afterlife event supposed to require this much xp? cause i already completed all the event missions for this week and barely got the first reward

[topaz rose]

Jab kinda was the spam problem tbf

[cyan patrol]

And they fixed it by making the game even worse

Classic PFG

[topaz rose]

I wouldn’t say it’s worse

[eternal moon]

My game on ps5 keeps crashing lol and the controller doesn’t vibrate anymore

[topaz rose]

Considering Joker and Finn jabs ruled the meta

[topaz rose]

Is the controller low battery or it just doesn’t vibrate at all?

For Xbox it doesn’t vibrate on low battery

[empty gulch]

Yeah but that’s what they said last patch

The cycle continues 😭

[eternal moon]

It doesn’t vibrate at all and my controller works perfect. I saw another person that plays on PS5 say they have the exact same problem

[topaz rose]

Oh, no clue then

Good luck on fixing it

[gentle zinc]

Reading through it sounds like they don't know what to do yet but they nerfed bite just to handle it a little bit instead of leaving it untouched

[cyan patrol]

First 2 sets and everyone just spams side specials now

[indigo prism]

Am I the only one who's not getting xp for the afterlife event from pvp matches?

[sonic folio]

wait theres a velma 0td???

any vids on this?

[empty gulch]

They just nerfed him for two patches bite was all he had

With ranked its not even like double Jake would be a problem competitively

L balancing for my goat

[spare bay]

iron giant is not a character is a 0 to death machine

how has there not been a single patch with iron giant not having a 0 to death

[gentle zinc]

Because he's too big though your DI will effect that

[cyan patrol]

Why is it that when the enemy hits my teammate with certain moves to causes that move to continue with active frames for longer than normal making it so you can often get hit when the move should have ended

[stuck sable]

How to play Black Adam

throw up projectile shield
feet tickle
feet tickle
feet tickle
feet tickle
enemy gets close
CLAP
CLAP
CLAP
LIGHTNING
CLAP
CLAP
CLAP
projectile shield ends
fly to other side of the map and start a new projectile shield
rinse repeat

[reef chasm]

Ugh, the 100% damage perk still broken... i just lost a game because jason got 100% damage and automatically killed me and my partner with just 50 damage ☠️

[valid ginkgo]

What am I suppose to do with these cyberbucks if I can’t buy anything in the store

[small raptor]

ghost with the toast rift event is fixed but pvp welcome to the afterlife still not working for me played unranked ffa and unranked 1v1...

[sonic folio]

i thought i could exchange em all for fighter currency and even then that has a limit, i hate this

[valid ginkgo]

Exactly my damn point that what sucks about this game

It piss me off like at least give us a chance to build some type of currency

[sonic folio]

what is the point of a new currency if 70% of the store wont even use it lmao

[remote dirge]

I got high hopes for season 3

Patch notes

[light salmon]

PLEASE MAKE RANKED ALL CHARACTER SHARED RANKED WE WANT TO PLAY DIFFERENT CHARACTERS AND GRIND OUT RANK

[reef chasm]

Shaggy still can hit you with side special when you are on his back ☠️

[noble perch]

Nerfed Jack and left Joker broken. Yeah..... I think I'm finna just quit at plat 2.

[lunar current]

this game is so bad

[solid frigate]

'Beetlejuice arrives early' is a crazy scam. When it was made clear he'd drop today, that does not make today early. Instead of trying to nickel and dime your players, just add the skins to the game that you've been dangling in our faces for weeks now.

It's slimy, money hungry behavior at worst, and absolutely tone-deaf at best. Please do better. You have a community that wants to see you do better.

AND THEN TO HAVE THE AUDACITY TO INCREASE THE GLEAMIUM PRICE TO 1250????? I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT UNTIL JUST NOW.

[sharp fjord]

3 days is not much, tbf... what worries me is the clear lack of testing

which is becoming a trademark

[solid frigate]

3 days is 3 days more than everyone expected. The rug pull is the issue.

[sharp fjord]

well, if you expected it to be available to everyone right away maybe you should reconsider your expectations

look at the pattern

how it was with agent smith

and then jack

[eternal moon]

Is anyone else’s ps5 crashing when trying to play multiversus?

[sharp fjord]

I think 3 days is ok, considering the past

better than what I expected

what I did not expect was to have a major Rick nerf disguised as a buff

[solid frigate]

I'd be willing to bet money they did it this way, banking on people's hype to play the character for either 6000 fighter currency or 1000 gleamium, only to log in and see there's no option for FC, and the gleamium price is up 25%, and go 'meh it's only 250 more gleamium'

Smith is a non-argument. We KNEW about the requirements to get him early. We knew since the pass was put into the game for Smith that he'd be 'early' access for people who did a certain task.

Jack was battle pass, just like Jason was.

There's no pattern to follow with Smith. Joker didn't have any dumb release qualifications.

Also didn't expect everyone to have access. I expected everyone to be able to unlock him with the previously used amounts of currency, that would have been following a pattern.

Edited first paragraph cuz I forgot a sentence

[fervent drum]

Jack needs continued nerfs.

I hope all jack and taz mains suffer like nobody has ever

[bitter bramble]

hey pfg, why did jason only get one buff and a sprinkle of fixes? don't get me wrong y'all addressed his aerial neutral special being worse than his forward air (which is a great change btw). but none of his actually big concerns like, y'know, him having the only multihit moves in the game that aren't gauranteed to combo into eachother, or his raged neutral special being useless, or his down special being terrible, or his neutral air being terrible, or the fact someone can sneeze in his general direction and hit him, or having terrible matchups against any character that have above average armor breaking moves and or spacing tools and or projectiles (i.e. marvin, taz, and TnJ)???

Don't get me wrong, i approve the changes that were made, but you essentially looked at a some guy who is bleeding out after having his arm shredded off but instead of trying to prevent the bleeding you put a bandaid on the papercut he got earlier this morning.

[fervent drum]

Jason is fine. He isn't weak or even bottom 10

[warm lance]

Please its been 2 months at this point. Any kind of hope that rifts is gonna get any kind of QA would be soooo great.

[bitter bramble]

he isn't weak against the entire cast, the characters he does struggle to beat he really struggles to beat. For example, TnJ literally has an infinite on him with his up tilt and jab. And even if his jab gets nerfed, he can do the same infinite on jason with uptilt and sidespecial. Literally the only counterplay for jason atp is to pray TnJ allow him to go offstage so he has a chance to recover.

[valid ginkgo]

Fix the cyber store so we can spend the rest of our cyberbucks

[bitter bramble]

Jason's winrate is strictly matchup dependant, you have to understand. And i know some characters have bad matchups and thats just going to be a thing, it should be a bad matchup at best though, not a sisyphian task.

[gentle zinc]

^

[valid ginkgo]

Why isn’t the progression for the pvp event not working. I have a skin an did 12 matches no progression was made at all

[solid frigate]

I gotta agree, sisyphian is very aptly put.

Ganondorf doesn't have THAT hard of a time.

[gentle zinc]

he does smash players just aren't good

and the ledge mechanic in that game saves a lot of the cast

[lusty sorrel]

Matchmaking system is terrible.

[valid ginkgo]

Don’t make toast or fighter currency or gelanium limited in the cyber store

[lunar current]

Congrats Multiversus! You once again have not only not listened to your community about what needs to be done and made the game worse AGAIN, but have just lost another wave of players. This game was actually fun during beta and they have ruined it. I can’t even play because of disconnect and the hitboxes are the worst they’ve ever been. It’s take a special kind of development team to continually make a game worse. Congrats!

[gentle zinc]

lol. didn't listen

[fervent drum]

How is the game worst? The balancing is so much better.

[turbid rover]

Beetle juice isn’t broken only main thing broken abt him is his loop

Which should stay in the game fr

[gentle zinc]

long as you can't repeat a combo more than 2x i'm cool with it but going to 60%+ off of the same moves is wack

maybe 3x

eh..

[grizzled bane]

Not bottom 10? Go play nothing but Jason until the next character comes out and tell us what you think by then

[valid ginkgo]

We got the skin now we can’t make progress in the pvp event unlesss it a mission that’s whack

[warm lance]

Seriously please, ANY QA for rifts

[sonic folio]

and given the previous events, it makes me think no more missions are gonna be added

[shut storm]

Please extend the seasons to three months long. I feel that two months just makes everyone either play until they are waaay ahead of everyone or just get burned out. Plus, with the constant events in this season, if they were followed up, I think the next season wouldn't suffer a huge player loss due to lack of content.

[valid ginkgo]

Somebody understands so I just wasted a green bug on a skin I don’t like. Now I have to wait a week for new mission just to get a bug to get what I want

[frosty estuary]

Oh okay, Beetlejuice isn't actually available today... See you guys on Friday I guess.

P.S. Would be nice for some clarity on prices in the next Into The Rift. Love you guys, but this sucks.

[valid ginkgo]

What’s the point of the xp boost skin if they don’t boost any progress for the event

[sonic folio]

hopefully they add missions, but i dont think it will happen. As for the xp, i think that might be a bug

[shut storm]

Also applies to morty vs. gizmo

[valid ginkgo]

It barely moving 2v2 I guess give 50

Idk about rank xp

[gusty moss]

Never do a paywall again for a character while lying about their release date. Be up front about it so you don't go down as "Payer First Games" & as a Warner Bros. tax writeoff. Punishing your core community for playing day 1 of the new patch & expecting to be able to use their "fighter currency" only to be told they aren't valued unless they feed your wallet.

[slender bear]

no shot i just won the first 2 v 2 round and because my random gave up i lose rp????

[wooden oasis]

How do we get xp for the new event it doesnt give for ranked

Is it just unranked pvp?

[sonic folio]

i've played both ranked and unranked, havent earned any xp for the event

[limber lily]

FFA matches aren't color-coordinated right, it's always 2 enemy reds

[wooden oasis]

Im getting xp now u good

[sturdy dagger]

That's based on your settings, you gotta change it in options.

[limber lily]

Except my settings are Player 3 Green and Player 4 Purple, yet in FFA I'm seeing one blue and 2 red opponents

It's a clear bug

[sonic folio]

its happened to me to, 2 and 3 become red every now and then and 4 even becomes yellow, a color i do not use

[sturdy dagger]

Add Daffy, please don't just make him the worst person ever.

Daffy has been moving towards a more relatable character since the 2000's. They literally use classic daffy in the 'Looney Tunes Cartoons'.

[sturdy dagger]

I haven't done FFA after the update. My bad.

[sonic folio]

its been happening for a few weeks tho lol

not all the time, but noticable

[sturdy dagger]

I haven't had this issue, but if it's not matching your settings then that's a genuine issue.

[sonic folio]

honestly, i've had many visual issues for like... a moth or so?

stuff i know not everyone has, but others in here have mentioned

kinda sad they havent addressed it

[limber lily]

Also I don't think the new events were playtested... 70 stars to get the final prize, but there's only 80 maximum so it physically cannot be done solo - 16 gems are locked behind multiplayer. The other event's missions only barely get you to the first milestone, out of 10, and you barely get anything for playing actual games. There will be another set of missions, but that's still only milestone 2 out of 10.
Pretty sure the devs just don't want us to play the game at this point, just spend money on... what, exactly? I haven't seen any skins outside the battlepasses I liked since the beta, but maybe it's just me not being into the whole cyberpunk theming.

[gusty moss]

they don't ever playtest events or rifts. if they do, its obviously not a very good job.

[sonic folio]

i wouldnt be sure if they release more missions, as the previous events didnt get more than the first set

in other words, they just want you to play for hours

[limber lily]

The description says more missions on the 27th, so unless they're outright lying....?

[sonic folio]

didnt read that, my bad. but you might be right tho, it will give you just a new tier

[limber lily]

Then again they did lie about keeping currency from the beta, so who knows

[sonic folio]

bruh that sucks

[gusty moss]

Jason should not be affected by priority changes, or his priority should be higher than the rest of the cast. that was how he got his jab or any of his attacks to hit. this + the ledge changes made him the worst in the game...

[mossy hill]

jason grab is weird lol

i was behind him

and break his grab armor

SOMEHOW I GOT TELEPORTED INTO HIS GRAB

and theres another time i did it but i didnt got grabbed

[grizzled bane]

Making Jab low priority actually screwed over Jason, since Jab was his one good starter. At least revert the jab1 nerf they gave him if you're gonna give every jab low priority

[gusty moss]

he needed it yea

i dont mind trading bc that's how jason gets his hits. he does more dmg so the trade-off is worth (plus its the only way you can fling someone off you) but now thats not even a choice

[sweet tendon]

Got recordings of rifts can’t complete

Idk hot to send or show them

Did it on ps5

This update

[mossy hill]

tbh its fair most jab got low priority nerf

like ITS IMPOSSIBLE to hit them cuz how annoying it was

[grizzled bane]

most jabs, it is fair, but Jason's?

[lost knot]

"mama said" emote needs to use bg's face in the actual scene. that was why it was funny

[mossy hill]

honestly i already hate his jab most of the time

[twin river]

Just to say, if you're going to make Jab low priority, then you should also add low priority to Harley air side normal. The two kicks are just as good (if not better) than grounded jab pre-patch, and now they're made better by this change.

[eternal moon]

Womp womp. Shes balanced atm she doesn’t need that change. They aren’t that good. Di and dodge

[mossy hill]

im suprised they didnt nerf marvin raygun spam

[twin river]

My opponent shouldn't be rewarded for mashing side normal out of every interaction, but ok buddy

Just giving my feedback, and how the matchup feels

[mossy hill]

welp some character still annoying AF

steven still annoying if u use velma

[eternal moon]

You shouldn’t be allowing your opponent to mash side normal at all. Punish her. It’s a very punishable move. You can easily space it out too. Use the entire stage to your advantage it’s easy to read when she’s gonna fish for it then go for a punish

[twin river]

The mechanics of the game allow her to do this. Any close range scramble where she is mid-air she can throw out air side and it hits. It's fast

[mossy hill]

@turbid rover ayeee lets try now

[turbid rover]

I’m going to bed got school

[mossy hill]

OOF

[turbid rover]

Ik im still a child 😔

[mossy hill]

i mean im still college student 🤣

i got back to college at september

[turbid rover]

Ah

Nice

[eternal moon]

Buddy hate to break it to you but every character in the game has this. Any character can do this now. I just fought a Morty who converted into his up air at a percentage he normally wouldn’t reach me and it was quick and i couldn’t react. Almost every character has a fast move out of wave dash or dodge attacking. Every character

[turbid rover]

I got two more years

And I’m off to a 4yr college

[mossy hill]

oh velma got 1 permanent true combo now lol

side side down up

down by i mean book

side side book up

[turbid rover]

Just make them whiff then punish

Simple

[eternal moon]

We all are tryna get used to it. It’s a new mechanic that JUST dropped and came out. Literally. Let it sink and adapt and just play. I’m still adjusting myself. Jeez bro. One day a patch comes out with new mechanics and we are already asking for nerfs

[eternal moon]

^

[turbid rover]

Wait what’s the new mechanic

[eternal moon]

He’s talking about dodge attacking

[turbid rover]

Oh it like appears now

To indicate or something?

[eternal moon]

Yeah he’s talking about how it’s too fast to react to. That and wave dashing

They buffed dodge attacking so now characters can essentially lunge with their attacks after dodging

[turbid rover]

😭

[turbid rover]

Peak change honestly I didn’t notice but prob gonna have fun with it

[eternal moon]

These are brand new things they just added and already asking for nerfs

[turbid rover]

That’s if I decide to play the game tho

[turbid rover]

Yeah ppl complain about anything

[eternal moon]

Oh it’s peak trust I love it. Now I can chase my opponent down and connect things that normally would require more out of me

[nocturne dove]

New feedback: Beetlejuice coming in like 3 days? Nice! But next time can we we just have a more open disclaimer of "gleamium and fighter tickets first, then fighter currency at a later date"? I think it'd avoid confusion

[mossy hill]

they did said that in twitter

like u able obtain beetle juice

[nocturne dove]

cool ty

wait no I mean like

in advance

like if they go "this character will be purchasable" in a live stream the details of the pricing would be cool to know beforehand

[mossy hill]

New Fighter: Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice joins the Multiverse! He is available for Gleamium and character ticket purchase starting today, and he will be available for purchase with fighter currency in 3 days on August 23, 2024.

in the patch note tho

ik what you mean

[mossy hill]

they could said it in live stream

[twin river]

That is not what I'm talking about. I was talking about jab priority, and how Harley's aerial side normal may as well be old jab

imo I like the new dodge attack changes, I'm currently adjusting to them fine

and the reason I point harley specifically is because her aerial side normal is multi-hitting, compared to most of the roster

[fleet garnet]

Wow I know why people have been complaining about the servers now

thats horrific

[eternal moon]

But it’s still punishable and you can space it out easily

[eternal moon]

It’s not

[twin river]

Not when I have to get up in her face to hit her dawg

[eternal moon]

Bro space. It. Out. Especially if she’s spamming it the whole game. I fought so many Harley players that do exactly what you are saying and I space it out and punish. They spam sair the entire game. It’s easy to read and kill her once you read your opponent

[glossy osprey]

Feedback: When I concede a rank match, I lose RP instead of gaining RP

[mossy hill]

LMAO THATS THE POINT

prevent people abuse 1 win and dip out

[glossy osprey]

Wait is that intention? I thought it was a bug😂

[twin river]

I never said she was "spamming it the whole game" I'm not new at this kind of game. I'm saying she can spam it "in aerial scramble scenarios".
Also this is just how I feel about the move, because she already has other aerial moves (especially hammer spin) that do the same job

How I feel about it is the whole point of this channel

[eternal moon]

Her up b hitbox got nerfed what else do you want? You want her completely gutted not being able to do anything? Shes fine rn any character can do the same move but better than her. Joker for example

[upper wing]

revert whatever these weight reduction changes are, now shaggy kills by breathing on you

[mossy hill]

It was good changes for velma

Now she can kill at ease

[twin river]

Her up b hitbox nerf just normalized her to match the animation. I also don't want her to be gutted at all, She and Garnet were my mains in TT2, I love them.
All I'm saying is her side aerial feels a little too good now after the recent mechanical changes. That's all

[mossy hill]

Also they shadow buff velma book lol

It now gave a decent knockback

[gusty moss]

i'm sorry but harley's mallet is NOT balanced

neither is her up b hitbox

rest is debatable / in a good state imo

[eternal moon]

lol bottom A character joker can still do 0 to deaths

[eternal moon]

It’s readable and punishable

[mossy hill]

Welp

Have u guys seen people use velma more?

[fair arrow]

To the game developers, I think you got the roles of Assassin and Bruiser classes mixed up for Samurai Jack and Beetlejuice.

[mossy hill]

Ehhhh not really?

But oh well lets just see

[fair arrow]

First impressions of playing Beetlejuice, I don't like Beetlejuice's hitboxes. They're pretty strange. He doesn't feel like an assassin. More like Bruiser.

[mossy hill]

Its funny some moveset is combination of some character too

Like the bug kick projectile is literslly tom up air special

[fair arrow]

I felt that too. He's like a mix of Bruiser and Mage.

[eternal moon]

I still can’t play the game bro. The game keeps crashing on me for ps5. I haven’t been able to play for hours bro

[undone thorn]

On pc and it’s crashing too

[mossy hill]

and beetle juice has infinites lol

with one of his perk

literally side side jumpscare

[covert minnow]

Why isn’t the Jason Afterlife variant event boosted?

[mossy hill]

people been asking the same

[round plinth]

[ Just complaining (sort of) ]
This game is so ridiculous with matchmaking. I just gotten off from a 10+ losing streak because this game keeps putting me in games with other players who are absolutely more experienced than I am with unexperienced teammates so we just steamrolled. In two games, I got put with a teammate mates that I lost with and we lost again in the second match. And what's worse, when you lose too many times, they game forces you to play with BOTS, as if it's insulting you after losing so many times. So my session when playing tonight after 5+ loses was like this: Steamrolled loss, game with bots, steamroll, bots, steamrolled, bots, repeat. No real games or games where you automatically lose.

I heard a rumor somewhere that the game uses like some system where when it detects a win streak, it deliberate puts you in a game with over experienced player or bots with a unexperienced teammate or bots to give you a loss but had no win streak before and I feel like that happened to me so the game didn't want me to play on real "good game" matches or even at all. I feel so bad right man.

The next time I get on the game with Bugs, I'll be forced to play with bots since I lost too many games with him. I didn't bother doing it then because I was fed up and tired playing with bots every other match. But when I switched characters, I kept losing more since the game still didn't want to put me into a fair match.

[upper wing]

its not a rumor, even devs have outright said the game uses skill-based matchmaking so if you go on a win streak its gonna put you against harder players to balance that out

[round plinth]

SURE did have fun getting balanced out after then winning like two times in a row. Thanks to their wonderful matchmaking, I never played with real people again.

[proper locust]

I think beetlejeuce's sair launch angle should be changed, it's at an awkward angle to where it barely kills off the top and it sends so much out to where it cannot combo

Also his nair is extremely slow to come out, give it like 2 or 3 frame reduction from startup

[valid ginkgo]

Reduce the amount of wins to get 5 star badge per character

[fair arrow]

His n-air feels really awkward to connect and isn't rewarding. His KO potential and hitboxes feel strange and inconsistent in some of his aerials.

[prime magnet]

HOT TAKE, this game will never be perfect and i feel it will only live for 4 years max

[proper locust]

Also if you just di out on everything he does he can never kill or combo

If you di not out he's like agent smith

If you di out he's like velma

It's really awkward

[mossy hill]

hpefully not

[foggy ether]

Lost Jack new animations is dope

I don't know why but matchmaking with random players just feels even worse somehow

Like I've gotten a Jake that just held ledge and died
To new players.

I'm Master rank too

Also

Why does Tom n Jerry, WW, and Superman feel so oppressive?

They can still just loop you

Kill you super early

Also

BRING JACK GRAB BACK

Already gutted him

[mossy hill]

always has been

also jack somehow still able jab jab jab dodge jab jab jab dodge grabbed enemy and throw

[foggy ether]

True combo at high percents.

He needs it

He has NO combos

Look a lot Beetlejuice compared to him

Also game feels just the same speed

Im trying to figure out how to implement void dash lol

[mossy hill]

@sharp fjord so remember u said rick cant do the portal combo anymore

SOMEHOW this rick i face manage to do that combo...

[reef zinc]

I would really enjoy having a way to find active parties for rifts in game.
Any sort of match making system to help get extra rift stars would be appreciated.

[mossy hill]

and for Sair rick u have to dodge air

[stuck cave]

Love how the rift event can't actually be completed solo. Keep up the good work guys

[sharp fjord]

he can do the basic, but after dair, sair doesn't connect

they also nerfed that

[viscid pike]

T&J ground up gettin kinda annyoing

[foggy ether]

Bro

Nerf Bugs Bat bro

[mossy hill]

its so dumb some of the annoying thing didnt get nerfed

like black adam mobility

tnj projectiles

[foggy ether]

How the heck they just B tier Jack and let that stuff slide

[mossy hill]

jack down special still stupid (air one)

[foggy ether]

He's not as good anymore

[mossy hill]

still annoying

[foggy ether]

He can't kill like at all

[mossy hill]

they still can kill if they able bait..

[fervent drum]

I still think Shaggy kills way too early. I'd love to see some knockback reduced on the guy

[mossy hill]

wew this shaggy just conceded after i just combo them with velma

[fervent drum]

Playing against Shaggy is so unfun. It's like one slip up and your dead.

[foggy ether]

Playing against Lebron throwing basketballs isn't fun

[fervent drum]

Lebron is at least really bad and dies really easily

Shaggy and taz are so unhealthy. They aren't OP, but man they are unfun to play against

[mossy hill]

man FFS i dont like harley bat spammable too

and the hitbox kinda BS

i was like below the bat and still got hit

[foggy ether]

Oh yeah forgot you don't play Jack

[fervent drum]

I may now he's a bit more balanced

He was brain dead before

And honestly? He's still very strong

[foggy ether]

“Very strong” is real copium

[fervent drum]

Are you a jack main?

Because if you're salty he got nerfed, I'd touch grass. He's still A tier

[foggy ether]

YEAH I'm salty! Mostly about his grab nerf

[fervent drum]

He deserved every nerf and I'd love to see him continue to get adjustments.

[foggy ether]

That's the new saying “he deserved” he didn't deserve every nerf.
Yeah me too. Actual kill move

[somber ember]

Side special should of gotten nerfed

But his entire kit is crazy

And only hitbox fixes

[foggy ether]

He doesn't kill

[somber ember]

Bro kills early

[fervent drum]

Bro, you must just be bad. Jack is not bad at all. He's pretty good and very strong. Just isn't S tier anymore

[foggy ether]

What move kills early on stage?

[foggy ether]

Your bad lol

He NEVER was S tier. Maybe in 2s. But not 1s

[fervent drum]

Bro is coping

If he wasn't S tier, why did he get the biggest nerf we've seen since relaunch?

Why did he have the 2nd highest pick rate and top 3-5 win rate?

And do you know what? I still think several parts of his kit needs further nerfing.

I'd like to see some buffs too to help smooth things over. SJ is like Shaggy, really strong in low-mid skill matches, but suffers in high skill

[foggy ether]

You suffer in high skill

[somber ember]

His side special his move where the giant bug droid comes out his jabs acc his up special on stage or off

[fervent drum]

Why did I giggle at that\

[mossy hill]

i just notice all WW nerf is actually just her shield duration...

NOTHING ABOUT HER ATTACKS nerf

[foggy ether]

Your bad

[fervent drum]

Bro is coping so hard

[foggy ether]

If you really think he STILL needs nerfs yes you are

[mossy hill]

@fervent drumhonestly jack still ANNOYING AF

[foggy ether]

TnJ, Taz, Superman, WW super annoying still

[mossy hill]

morty less annoying

now

[foggy ether]

Also Bugs

His hitboxes are stupid

[mossy hill]

i think they reduce it now

[foggy ether]

Naw he still got crazy hitboxes

Like his up air

His jab

His side air

They hit behind

He kills at 70 easyb

[alpine leaf]

why is lebron james floating in the fighters tab

[foggy ether]

Garnet can jab you with the wind from her back three times lol

The hitboxes are crazy in this game

And Ayra still just combo you to death

Idk Im grateful for the tech mechanic though

[fervent drum]

Yes, he does.

Tornado and side special is still incredibly strong and his jab is really oppressive still.

I’d nerf all 3, then buff his beetle, and his other options to approach. Maybe his air attacks too.

As of right now, Jack has some of the strongest moves in the game. And dare I say the strongest jab in the game as well. It just means Jacks spam side special, jab, tornado and occasional will hit you with his red slicing move (forgot what it’s called) and grab. He’s incredibly strong, but predictable.

Making him far less predictable and giving him more options would make him better in comp and improve how fun he is to play against.

As for right now, expect Jab > Jab > Side Special > Side Special

[tender crescent]

Ranked still feels just as bad as before. Can't play any characters other than my best because I'm constantly matched against master players while in silver and even my best characters are consistently getting matched against diamond or master players so it's impossible to climb with them too because I never play low ranked players and when I do I gain little to no rp

[thorny thicket]

be cool if toasts could be allowed through recent players menu, just keeping track of if they were toasted aready since last game

[tender crescent]

I'm still bronze with my most played character even and I'm playing people who have thousands more wins than I have games played even like what is this?? I've played 12 ranked sets today and lost all of them why am I even playing such high ranked players? Because I've beat a bunch of other players in unranked or something and maybe won a couple of sets vs high ranked players because that's all I play? It makes no sense at all still makes me not want to play the game mode at all I tried again because the team said it was improved but it feels just as bad.

[mossy hill]

they only reduce the charging duration

thats all

not fixing the 0TD

[mossy hill]

dunno for new players but feels its kinda improved for higher rnak people

[drowsy bough]

finn nerfs were not nearly enough. he's still the most boring character to play against and he still has infinite range

[tender crescent]

It probably doesn't seem like as much of an issue for them because they are winning those matches and aren't getting frustrated to the point where they are checking every one of their matches and realizing how many times they play lower ranked people. For lower ranked people, it is much more frustrating because you are constantly losing.

[tender crescent]

^

[mossy hill]

bruhhh can they just punished all bruiser and assasins that play GOD DAMN CAMPING

i cant even hit them if i went aggro

[viral echo]

The voice lines don’t work for me now as I start a battle

[mossy hill]

Only some voiceline appear

Like 90% voiceline dissapeared but the text still pop lol

[viral echo]

The only ones working are Jason and Tom & Jerry

[viral echo]

It’s annoying

Least I’m not the only one with this issue

[grand meteor]

Samurai jack still feels far too oppressive he still has to fast attacks and big hitboxes.

Please nerf him it's crazy like u gave him 12 nerfs and he still is op

[sturdy dagger]

Cool down icons aren't appearing.

[mossy hill]

velma, beetle juice

[hidden sapphire]

I would like events as they were just like before

The concept of having all the quests unlocked is cool and all, but the fact that these quests dont even give you progress at all is bad, it forces you to play the game over and over and over again just to level up 1 event level

[foggy ether]

No

He has received EVERY nerf y'all has complained about and MORE

[warm granite]

Having to play 30 PVE games to get 100 event XP each time is Horrible.. And that just for 1 level of the EVENT.. Its Ridiculous 🙄 change it back to the old way of getting challenges each day to complete events

[gentle zinc]

Yeah I was surprised he got everything hit 😂😂

[mossy hill]

@gentle zincwe found velma 0TD

[gentle zinc]

I saw it and I can't say I'm surprised

Not sure how to feel about it but they will probably make it a little harder to pull off later

[mossy hill]

i meant rn its already hard to pull off 🤣

u have to get at least 5 damage on the enemy or 10

to pull off normal way

if u start from 0 u have to do downtilt

[gentle zinc]

Maybe they'll leave it then. It didn't look hard but I'm not experienced on Velma enough to understand it either

[mossy hill]

its hard

cuz u have to do down special in middle air 2 times in row

then dodge down and up air attack to finish off

[little heron]

it might be better to undo the dodge jump changes

it doenst feel good to use

using meter to get around is unavoidable after a while

since moving without it is too slow

i get wanting to try and insentive usisnge the meter more thoughtfully

but it just goes down too fast regardless

[viscid pike]

Hey guys, i cant do any moves after i get hit by supes up special, is this normal?

[little heron]

you mean after the move is done?

cause thats not normal

[grand meteor]

Still needs more though

[lofty beacon]

Tf is this new super jumps I’ve been seeing

Why would they give Garnets second forward jab armor, but not fix her dodge distance

Legit doesn’t even help her AT ALL. But will give armor to Superman and Taz for their neutral charges??

[mossy hill]

GUYS

After some testing

Here is the list

0TD velma

Tested on Sky Arena (no platforms), so might not kill on other maps at the top.
No DI included

0 damage:
Black Adam
Beetle Juice
Wonder Woman
Finn
Agent Smith
Stripe
Steven
Taz
Samurai Jack
Marvin the Martian
Banana Guard
Jake
Reindog
Velma
Beetle Juice
Joker
Harley (tight window)
Bugs Bunny (tight window)
Tom & Jerry (tight window)

10 damage:
Shaggy

15 damage
Garnet
Morty (tight window)

20 damage:
Jason
Lebron James
SuperMan

30 damage:
Iron Giant

Impossible
Rick
Gizmo
Arya

[lofty beacon]

Smh

They should’ve just put Scooby Doo and Daffy in the game

[tiny bronze]

• Yall made xp towards beetljuice pvp event progression much worst. Event with the skins xp boost varint the xp its much less than the circuit drone event. Its like every single other event yall find a way too make it less easier to achieve and force much more grinding.

Season 1 progression was much better and didnt involve having to get on every day and grind for hours.

• How can anyone argue the xp towards rift event is FAIR that by doing all ALL weekly mission towards beetle juice event s barely get you passed lvl 1 in the event... what a joke. So with 2 other batches of mission you would barely get to lvl 3 of the event. UNLESS you play 9-5 to everyday pvp.

[lofty beacon]

If someone’s concedes a 1-1 in ranked, why tf do they lose 8rp

If it’s a tie, what logic does that make

It’s like someone giving me $10 and I gave them $5 back, and they ended up with $2

[vagrant perch]

dunno, weird decision

[autumn estuary]

goober tax, if you won once you can win again

[hidden scarab]

Fix crossplay

[glass schooner]

Beetlejuice shouldn't cost Gleamium. I can understand 6K fighter currency like Joker but forcing people to spend Gleamium on a character is not on

[autumn estuary]

no fern pfp or banner this patch, cringe

[noble perch]

I lost 20 Rp for conceding so I'd take 8 rp instead.

[noble perch]

Umm no. I lose to Joker consistently and in Plat 2. Joker has projectiles . let alone black adam is nearly twice as fast with projectiles classified as a bruiser same as jack plus has the abillity to fly. Just no the side special for jack was nerfed and now even if you hit it 75% of the time it drops the combo anyway. Jason , Joker, Garnet can still hit people from behind. No jack doesn't need anymore nerfs.

Apparently even agent smith is faster than jack

[lofty beacon]

HUH

In what regards

[gentle zinc]

<@&882349260409032746>

Yay

[topaz rose]

Why is bro spamming these

[mossy hill]

its hacked prob

[topaz rose]

Mfs be getting hacked so easily 😭

[pure silo]

getting +3 and - 30 in ranked

[topaz rose]

Oof

[gentle zinc]

Clicking stuff without thinking 😂

[mossy hill]

wtf what rank

[topaz rose]

Lmao

[pure silo]

master 1

[topaz rose]

Dang

[mossy hill]

Oh.... i mean some GM getting +5

[slender bear]

why do i lose rp if my random m8 gives up even tho we won the first round?????

[foggy ether]

This 💯

[lofty beacon]

Garnet needs a rework at this point

OR…buff her dodge distance😭😭

Why does Harley’s grounded up still m hit Garnet when facing the other direction?

[analog fulcrum]

Just discovered this stupid bug where Iron Giant went into rage mode and then his hitbox was only on top of him. I tried to screen record but idk how to work OBS and didn't get a good video

[tacit aspen]

ranked still crap, getting put with a people trying characters out

[copper veldt]

Beta was better

[pure silo]

🧢

[native cedar]

Man I really hope PFG finds a way to punish AFK players, and I hope its soon, every single game I've played today have had someone AFK and throwing the game for free points. This is really boring and I dont want to play a game if it just ends in 10 seconds. ( Its most likely not a disconnect because they ready up and choose perks, theyre just ruining the game )

[lofty beacon]

Just don’t play Duo’s at this point

Ain’t my fault I had a package at the door waiting for me or a phone call😤😤😤

[eternal moon]

Still makes no sense why new characters are in ranked… takes no skill to use a character when they hit like a truck compared to characters that’s been in the game since beta😂

[ionic furnace]

Bcuz ur bad

[fervent drum]

I personally believe BA and Joker are better than SJ at this point.

SJ is still a top 10 character. A solid A tier fighter.

[ionic furnace]

Yeah

If they were better they would win

[fervent drum]

Maybe not. maybe they should spend some time in training to learn all the new changes to Jack’s kit.

I feel like most Jack players spammed side special and played around his rage passive. That just isn’t going to work with his new kit.

I definitely think most people need to retrain instead of saying he’s bad now.

[ionic furnace]

Yeah

So the person I called bad is bad

[little aurora]

Missing the Marceline ringout

[upper wing]

BA and Joker are the problem characters now because devs didnt nerf them 💀

they're everywhere in ranked rn

[noble perch]

Who's bad? Lol , I have a life but my name on psn is (Proof_ur_not_him). If you think your really about that life.

[noble perch]

I'm like Jack #600 Ranked with a Day job & a Dog & a Kid. 😂 but I'm bad. I played this game so much you name the character you will still lose.

[gentle zinc]

👀

Someone record this beef match I wanna watch

[grizzled bane]

🍿

[ionic furnace]

Ok so you're a grown ass adult beefing about a game.. ok I see

[noble perch]

GrownAf. yes but this is hardly a beef being partnered with law enforcement I'd be a bad person to beef with 😘

[proper locust]

why does every other character in this game have such overtuned hitboxes but beetlejeuce gets nothing?

samuai jack can hit me through air particles, joker's jack in the box can hit from under the ledge, but beetlejeuce needs to be literally on top of the opponent to maybe hit?

[scarlet cairn]

Directional bubble influence for 2 player rifts

[grizzled bane]

You work with law enforcement getting easily pressed about a game where Bugs Bunny can beat up Jason?

[noble perch]

Who's Pressed? I bought a product am I entitles to have an opinion or nah. Just cause your life suck dont mean mine does. Y'all want me to be mad for what? This a feedback section for a game and y'all want me to be mad? Why?

[ionic furnace]

Lol there is such a big chance im like 14 year old kid (this games main audience) and you're beefing with me like this lol go sit at your day job and slave away

@noble perch

Couldn't reply somehow cuz I'm drunk living my life at a party

[noble perch]

Thats cute. Without a google search you wouldn't have an idea what movie Stripe Starred in and with Jason being in my childhood along with Samurai jack, power puff, Tom & Jerry. I would hardley say your the target audience being these shows were cancelled before you were able to wipe your cheeks. Dont grow up to but a low life drunkard its not good for your health. I probably get paid more than your Dad and Im Half his age. Gg.

[ionic furnace]

I kind of contradicted myself you're right

Cuz I'm not playing video games at this moment but drinking and having a life etc

[little heron]

please rework shaggy. the way his kit is rn only encourages spam and nothign else

he's not allowed to be anything more

its so flawed please give him actual combo potential

[analog gull]

Change the amount of points you lose after your teammate surrenders on ranked, it's not fair that you lose the same amount of points just because your teammate didn't felt like playing the next match

[split robin]

Jake stock is skyrocketing

[gentle zinc]

@ionic furnace @noble perch y'all streaming the 1v1?

Samurai Jack should still beat Jason though. I think it is now just closer as a 50/50 after jack nerfs. Not sure about Jack vs Joker but I'd assume Jack beats Joker too

[ionic furnace]

I can go band for band

[gentle zinc]

😂 what was the beef about

Tryna see if I can help sway somebody's opinion

[ionic furnace]

Nothing really

[gentle zinc]

Also makes sense. Arguments just happen.

[blissful shadow]

As someone who is a founder, I am BEGGING you to please bring back co-op vs AI. I want to enjoy the game at my own peaceful pace without needing to sweat to complete challenges (I know the matchmaking shows mercy by giving bots but I shouldnt have to rely on that.)

[gentle zinc]

You can't coop against Ai? Weird decision

[vale basalt]

Remove Beetlejuice's scary face loop LOL

[wide junco]

bro u can di out of it or ur just bad

[vale basalt]

lol damn you didn't had to say it like that. I was the one using it, i was testing it in training after watching a video of it.

[ionic furnace]

I called him bad in jest and he started trying to flex his job and kid

[gentle zinc]

oh okay. I think too many think everyone on the internet is a bum in somebody's basement with no life.

[ionic furnace]

Yeah but still what kind of comeback is that

"You're bad at the game"
"I have a wife, kid, job and dog"

[thorn wedge]

remove perk currency from battle pass infinite tiers and replace with prestige currency

[clear pecan]

The "welcome to the afterlife" event is busted. Even with the skin, it doesn't boost the xp 50%.

[vagrant perch]

try keeping in rifts for 3 minutes, when the guy says "one minute left" or something defeat the opponent, that should give you 225 xp for the event, repeat the process as much as you think is necessary

[severe dagger]

cool, i was leading 1-0 in a ranked and i got kicked out while waiting for my opponents to choose his perks for the second game. I lost 29 rp

[gentle zinc]

Lmao idk but it's nothing new

[lost knot]

you gave banana guard 1 trick then nerfed it to the ground. he needs approach options or less end lag on a lot of his moves and a redesign of his signature perks

[turbid rover]

So when is Harley nerf coming

[upper wing]

yall nerfing TnJ or are we just gonna sit here and listen to Void downplay his main and call him B tier

[grizzled bane]

So what we doing to Black Adam besides making him slightly lighter?

[warped mauve]

bro i had a similar experience, I was playing duos ranked and it was 1-0 and while i was waiting for the opponents to rematch or decline the game kicked out my friend(my duo) and it said i lost 16rp

[grizzled bane]

Why do I hear the attack land, see the damage rack up on the opponent, but they are fully actionable like they never got hit?

[turbid rover]

When did they add teching to multiversus?

[vast storm]

Pls increase Tom & Jerries ring out sounds 💀

[merry glen]

REALLLL

[merry glen]

Yesterday

[turbid rover]

Dumb feature ngl

[merry glen]

Good idea poor implementation imo

[turbid rover]

Idk about good idea it would be good if it required skill to use like smash but they are just ruining characters that need ground bounce to combo

I’m talking abt Steven btw

Steven basically lost his combos because he can’t ground bounce anymore

[honest oar]

Sometimes my character stops letting me controle it and it makes me just stand there or walk off stage (my friend has this problem too)

[tawny fable]

is anyone else having this pop up for them. (syncing accuont state err)

[mossy hill]

Why they gone lol

[dire tinsel]

So people are just going to ruin every f'n new character by abusing the hell out of free combos? F'n Beetlejuice's doing the jab into scary face thing across the map? The devs going to take 3 weeks to do something about it I'm guessing? Seriously, WHY are they not playtesting this crap before releasing a character? Are they that poorly staffed or that f'n stupid?

[mossy hill]

huh? its only 2v2 i

[dire tinsel]

3 Beetlejuice's in a row using the jab combo to carry across the stage.

[sharp fjord]

some are saying you can DI

[patent halo]

why does ranked feel so bad to play?

my games are insanely hard and i'm in bronze

[dire tinsel]

The fact that the only way to escape it, if that's true, is DI is incredibly uncool. I do not think anybody on this team knows how to balance a character properly. Look at how OP and terrible some characters have been throughout the game's release. It's like they don't know what they're doing. Like they don't have people they can say "Hey, test the character out in this state before we release him because we don't want to have to bring them back into the shop if there's something busted".

[sharp fjord]

so many combos can only be avoided by DI... nothing new in it

not defending their balancing though

at all

[mossy hill]

@sharp fjord yeah velma 0TD can be stop eith DI movement

Just tried it

man i really hate morty plumbus perk

HOW TF I PUNISHED THEM IF MY HITBOX ARE SO SMALL

without projectile

[patent halo]

jack feels really op in 2v2

down special edge guard is insane

[lost knot]

jason's sig perk "resurrectionist" is bugged and will instantly kill you at the OLD blast zone radius instead of the new

[foggy ether]

If your still complaining about Jack you got a skill issue

He doesn’t even have combos like others do

I’m glad Batman divekick got nerfed but surprised black Adam clap still hasn’t

Also we need way more hitbox adjustments

[dire tinsel]

Is there any way to just f'n remove Beetlejuice until that dumb jab combo across the stage nonsense is removed?

They went way too long letting Jack get away with bs before they nerfed it. I can't do that again.

[dire tinsel]

Also, Smith's gun really should be sped up since they implemented the ground bounce changes. There's no reason he shouldn't be able to combo into it anymore when other characters can do the same thing.

[viscid pike]

hey is there any possible way to give joker many different 25 damage combos and not just a single 50 damage combo that they would use the whole game?

its kinda getting annoying

[stuck cave]

Remove the Beetlejuice stun perk. It gives him a 0 to 90 combo for free. If IG and Jason could be removed for being broken so should this

[foggy ether]

I'm so tired of hitting players at 134 damage and they not dying give Jack a kill move!

Air up special can't even kill Harley at 124 mid-air

Like dang

Nerfed his whole kit basically

[upper wing]

i stg if these devs dont hotfix nerf black adam, this is the most abused character in ranked now, he's the new finn since everyone else got nerfed

[foggy ether]

I have no idea how they didn't even touch Black Adam

[upper wing]

devs are so scared to touch BA and TnJ

[foggy ether]

Also Finn is STILL dumb

His jab range is stupid

And has guaranteed damage from Beemo

I hate that character so much man

They still play the SAME PASSIVE GAMEPLAY

just run away and jab

Nothing changed PFG

Yup and TnJ still not touched

Someone needs to teach me wave landing because Im struggling right now

I like the changes but the impact isn't as much as I thought. At least at the moment

Biggest impact is Tech

[raw ice]

It seems that there is currently an exploit for ranked where people forcibly disconnect after game 1 to get the RP for winning the single match, I keep encountering people who use it

[foggy ether]

Superman fly punch has even MORE jank because of new priority mechanic in game.

Lol

If Teching is going to allow more combos PLEASE give EVERYONE actual combo branches.

Not just a few

Did Ayra even get nerfed?

[upper wing]

yeah she just went from broken tier to S tier because of them

[foggy ether]

Dang

Her combo strings are so strong

She can hit me twice and repeat the same thing and that's all she needs

She doesn't even need to finish the combo to win

[upper wing]

characters i want to see nerfed next patch: Black Adam, Joker, Tom & Jerry, Superman, Shaggy and Taz

[foggy ether]

Exactly

they got off Scott free

I want to see combos for everyone

[upper wing]

Shaggy got nerfed but it wasnt enough, character does too much damage and knockback

character is just a small Jason that gets free kills off of stray hits

[foggy ether]

Nerf his knockback and damage. Give back his combos

But not crazy long lol

[viscid pike]

please turn lost jack's fully charged neutral red, just like the last season of the show

[foggy ether]

Ooooooo

[upper wing]

exactly

he's supposed to be a basic combo character that everyone can pick up and play but rn he doesnt have combos and just blows you up with one hit

also the sandwich needs a lockout, ts gets spammed and its so lame

[foggy ether]

YE and its kinda dumb. Like guys… common. 1-2-3 Dead?

[upper wing]

after those characters get nerfed this game will be in a really good place balance-wise

[foggy ether]

Yup

[viscid pike]

jack dash attack on a stripe with 136 damage didnt kill

hello?

[foggy ether]

Bro I spent the whole match collecting evidence and Bugs threw a stupid sandwich and the van drove off the cliff… lol

[upper wing]

ranked NEEDS stage bans fr though

im so tired of dexters

[foggy ether]

Tired of these platforms… they are awful

[foggy ether]

I KNOW!
Velma has more reliable kill moves than Jack

They nerfed him so now they need to give him something

[viscid pike]

yeh just faced a velma an hour ago, she was 156 dmg and i was 120 i believe. guess who won?

[foggy ether]

Flashlight, Lightbulb, Camera, Or van? Which was it lol

Because Jack ain't killing at all

[viscid pike]

flash light+ light bulb

[foggy ether]

Yup. That is a good kill confirm

[viscid pike]

yeh the only way i can kill rn is to finish a jab at the ledge

or the up special + up attack combo that wont even kill most of the characters now

[upper wing]

velma is definitely not bottom tier any more

[foggy ether]

Up air was nerfed. So its more difficult. And its not even true or hard to escape like Finn or Ayra ladder. Jack ladder easy to escape

Its funny

People say

“You got Beatle move”

The passive playstyle is still king in this game and its really boring in 1v1 to watch a Jack, WW, Joker, Finn… anyone just walk back and forth on the opposite side

I just played the most boring match against a Jack that did nothing but run away and jab attack….
I'm a jack main and don't even do that.

So ugly

bro… Shaggy combos gotta come back. Wave stomp was so fun. Nerf him and give him combo

[viscid pike]

like how do people not get guilty for just spamming one combo and not using the full moveset

me personally. would do anything or use any kind of perk that lets me use my full move set as any character. thats what makes the game fun for me.

[foggy ether]

Exactly. Players just sit there… wait for you to whiff… run forward. Back… then jab combo. Rinse. Repeat. And for Jack its even more ugly because he don't have combos

Just jab 1-3, repeat
Ayra hits you its a whole combo

Just played a Lebron. All he did, bounce two balls, and run to the opposite side of stage. And throw balls at me. Passive gameplay definition

Now THAT is boring

We need tutorials in game about things. Like about these new mechanics and things.

[mossy hill]

honestly

i will say this straight

giving velma down special mele book is actually making her more viable

[ionic furnace]

did he win tho?

[bitter bramble]

#clips message

Hi, so this shouldn't be happening!

I literally stood zero chance

[low patio]

Marvin needs some help

While the new tech system is a welcome edition, it butchered Marvin’s combos, the jab priority being lower means one of his few kill moves is even harder to get out, and he still has bugs that effect his projectiles. He needs some attention and buffs, especially considering that other mages simply kill better then he does

[stuck sable]

Literally no one was complaining about Velma's projectiles. What is the point of trying to buff an underperforming weak low tier character that struggles to kill if you're ALSO GOING TO NERF ALL THEIR DAMAGE OPTIONS in the same patch. Why, who asked for this?

You made some of her attacks feel slightly better, but she's still worse at killing than everyone else in the cast and now you also nerfed her projectiles. That's one step forward two steps back.

PLEASE, next time you buff Velma and Jake, don't also nerf them to compensate the buffs you're giving them. They are not high tier characters, they need help, they aren't too strong in ANY area right now. No more nerfs to weak characters please.

[celest radish]

Beetlejuice has an insane loop please fix in next update
https://outplayed.tv/media/1Kem8N

[bitter bramble]

picking a character anywhere above mid tier should not make it extraordinarily difficult for half the cast to handle, especially when the majority of characters below mid tier are barely below mid tier

[mossy hill]

i would say this lol (as velma main) her jab combo now its kinda nice BUT what THE F WITH THE SASS NERF??? SHE WAS FINE

[warm lance]

Another bit of feedback here, maybe stick to the words you guys say to the public. https://fxtwitter.com/Player1stGames/status/1801025683277103201

[eternal moon]

Bit of an odd suggestion since it's about microtransactions but I think if MVS incorporated a Fortnite Crew type bundle into the shop it'd do really well.

BP for that Season + 1000 gleamium + fighter currency OR an icon/ringout/banner

Obviously all of it could be sold separately in the shop at a later date but I personally don't buy anything in the shop with real world currency because I don't find the value that good, but if something like this was implemented for idk 15 euro I think it'd sell p well

[patent halo]

I think it's absolutely insane that the dev team let BeetleJuice have this insane easy af to execute infinite loop

I just did 75 damage in 1 combo (with dummy set to dodge after hitstun) and I don't know how to iAD.... cuz u don't need iAD

Imo they need to patch out this loop immediately....

Balance it by adding a 10 second cooldown on BJ's stun from his signature neutral special perk

or it could even be as low as 5 seconds...

NEVER MIND IGNORE ME.

Someone just told me you can DI out of it and youcan

But it's infinite on large characters i think... and that needs to b patched out

[sharp fjord]

you can escape with DI

[hexed roost]

It’s Superman’s laser ever gonna be fixed it doesn’t work on half the maps

[patent halo]

gonna test on big chars

yeah it's infinite on garnet

maybe not infinite but it's a guaranteed 55 damage before she moves far enough

I still think the stun should have a cooldown regardless to prevent this

[sharp fjord]

that's mostly a garnet issue tho... people have been complaining about her dodge for ages

[patent halo]

what about IG and jason

i'm gonna test on them now

[sharp fjord]

IG deserves it tho

xD

for all he's done in the past

I call it karma

I hope jason is ok tho

[patent halo]

78 damage jason

ya IG obviously gets stuck for full duration

[sharp fjord]

but I do agree it's a stupid loop clearly oversighted

that from the very basic concept we could see it was gonna happen

[patent halo]

it needs a cooldown on the move... usually moves like that always have a cooldown

(on his signature perk)

[sharp fjord]

and the worst part is that he can combo without it

people don't need that loop to combo

they're just lazy

[patent halo]

I wish they would wait 2 weeks or minimum 1 week to let new chars into ranked?

[sharp fjord]

100% agreed

new characters should only be in ranked after a patch (not necessarily on them if they don't need it)

[patent halo]

if they don't have resources to play test and rely on the community fine.... but then have "beta test" cushions

they need to hire a pro MVS player? or like someone who enjoys labbing

[sharp fjord]

they have Nakat

[patent halo]

it just feels like PFG really lacks good play testers

is that why WW is still broken?

[sharp fjord]

they lack testing, period

WW isn't broken tho... she's where every character should be

[iron spire]

still running off map, pls fix, new patch didn't do anything

[patent halo]

i appreciated the game freezes vs runnign off the map

but if ur off stage u fall

which sucks

[iron spire]

it's a mix of both for me

sometimes it freezes then im off map

or I just start running off for no reason

[patent halo]

yah ur right. Mixed

[iron spire]

just lost 2 rank games cause of it

sigh, ಠ╭╮ಠ

'(ᗒᗣᗕ)՞ IM SICK OF IT

[patent halo]

do u turn off crossplay?

i find my connection is more stable with crossplay off

there's a funky ground bounce bug happening too. I noticed if you ground bounce someone on the edge of the stage... the momentum can sometimes be enough that they "tech" off the stage and into the blast zone (specifically on dexters lab 1v1 version)
[12:03]
On Garnet I did nair, ground bounce, jab1, gauntlets ground bounce and then my opponent got yeeted into the blast zone with a bad tech LOL

[glass patio]

the tech is really good, now jake skate is even worse than before, incredible

Nice job devs

[patent halo]

WOW... that oversight on jake... i didn't even think of that

[glass patio]

No it's good they patch it so it doesnt tech on 2nd bounce

Tho it does tech on 3rd Kappa

So useless to go a full skate

So maybe one of the only move of the game you actually now need to cancel, it's mandatory

[sharp fjord]

dude, BJ's jab is so awfully bad

you need to get so close that by the time you're close enough to hit the enemy already recovered

[glass patio]

yup it's a bad jab

[patent halo]

now u know what it's like to play garnet

and what i deal with on a regs

[lofty beacon]

^^^

[sharp fjord]

it's nearly impossible to punish Finn and Harley as BJ

[patent halo]

garnets lower hitbox on her jab is non existant too

[sharp fjord]

they're so fast

and Finn has that fkn range on his jab

[lofty beacon]

Don’t forget about that stupid vacuum it has

[glass patio]

same as bugs, a jab shouldnt have a vaccum

[sharp fjord]

I'm super OK with removing BJ's loop, but I really wish they gave his jab a bit more range

it feels really awful right now

[patent halo]

no... not every char should have godlike jabs lol

[sharp fjord]

not saying godlike jabs

[patent halo]

he has really great tools

[sharp fjord]

I'm saying a decent jab

he can't punish anything without investing a meter

[patent halo]

again... welcome to garnet

[sharp fjord]

and his dodge is pretty bad as well

[patent halo]

that's why i have no sympathy. I'm just biased

[sharp fjord]

so do you want garnet to be good or do you want many trash garnets in the game?

nobody is saying "don't buff garnet"

they are unrelated

[patent halo]

i haven't seen enough of BJ to have a good opinion

so i'm just gonna stop commenting

[sharp fjord]

he's fun, don't get me wrong

but jab is awful

[patent halo]

for example arya's jab is not the best

btu she def dosn't need it

because the community has figured it out

[sharp fjord]

there are characters I just can't even touch

I need to get too close to hit

and if they don't give that space, BJ is simply fkd

his neutral is non-existent

[patent halo]

(i haven't seen enough of him to have an opinion. So ignore me)

[glass patio]

still one of the best since it's the fastest

[sharp fjord]

It really feels powerless as a Beetlejuice against faster characters or with range like BG, Jack, Finn

[pure silo]

do you get less elo when your opponent gives up after 1 loss

[glass patio]

yeah she just dont have an enormous range but still a nice one and with also an anti air frame on it. and there is no jab faster than her to come out.

[tulip hinge]

What have they done to the game in this patch?????? It's unplayable the combat got even slower and floatier I'm going to finally uninstall this if they don't fix it by next patch

Not gonna be playing on this patch for the time being

only 1,9k ppl on steam playing it...

[glass patio]

they are killing the game on purpose, simple

[tacit aspen]

"We LiStEn To ThE cOmMuNiTy"

[pure silo]

they listen, like were old people. But they respect us like were children.

like imagine going into a supermarket and asking staff where the noodles are and they just dont respond. Wow, what a customer service we got..

[native cedar]

wait guys, does the report system actually work? I've reported several people for throwing games and I've found this one guy, every day, doing it, reported him every single time and I've still been seeing him, I'm not gonna say the name but man is it annoying

[pure silo]

say the name, literally and tag the moderators or someone idk

[split robin]

Several instances against Marvin’s down attack where my character (Stripe in this instance) is getting hit when he is clearly over or behind Marvin. Just a hurtbox issue that needs tweaking! 👍🏻

[native cedar]

<@&882349260409032746> Their username is "Mesmerist" and all they do is go AFK and ruin games for me and others, please do something about this

[inland agate]

We don't have control over the game, only the server

You can report people through wb support

[native cedar]

but I've been doing it through the game?

doesnt that work the same?

[inland agate]

It does

Either case, we don't have control over game matters

[native cedar]

ok thats good, thank you, I just hope he gets punished in some way for ruining others games

[glass patio]

Nah for sure it's just there to be pretty, many people suicide or afk just to do quest, and they keep doing it

[pure silo]

is there an option to submit clips if someone griefed, so you have evidence? or is it just a pointless option and this game doesnt even have a support wich looks into it

[native cedar]

sadly I dont have a clip but I dont see anywhere to add clips

[glass patio]

i would say pointless

[native cedar]

I just hope that players that throw and ruin the game for others shouldnt have as much freedom as the rest of us, if that makes sense

[glass patio]

They have as much, that's for sure

[grizzled bane]

You have a #5 Grandmaster going against a Bronze #5 that has a 0% winrate?

#off-topic message

MVS, what the hell? Not even MMR can describe this happening.

[glass patio]

Yeah that is usual ranked, ive faced in a row as bronze 2 on a character (just starting) master, plat, master, diamond

[dreamy bough]

How in tf do you limit Finn up sword attack but still allow morty or taz to spam one move?

[dire crypt]

Did anyone get the bulk email?

What a gaslighting snake statement they made.

[grizzled bane]

Yall not touching Joker at ALL in balancing says a lot

[ionic furnace]

happens when the playerbase is small

[grizzled bane]

That shouldn't happen regardless of size. Let the bronze fight bronze and the grandmaster fight grandmaster, not this horsecrap they set up

[ionic furnace]

The playerbase is probably just incredibly small

This doesn't happen in counter strike and that has 10 people per match

[grizzled bane]

Comparing a platform fighting game to a first person shooter isn't a good comparison for any sort of ranked mode

[sharp fjord]

do you have crossplay on?

[grizzled bane]

Those aren't my screenshots

And there wasn't anything crossplay related between the two players

[sharp fjord]

I asked because if you have it on you'll have a bigger pool of players

so more chance of getting people your level

[grizzled bane]

Yes, they do

[clever portal]

New bug when u load into a fight that leaves the bottom of the screen normal (5cm) and the rest is black and the top timer is frozen. Have had it several times

[sharp fjord]

they said Jab now has low priority, but how the hell did Rick jab win my Bettlejuice air side special????

it feels wrong

[cinder sable]

Although it has lower prio value, might’ve been a frame or two earlier than beetle juice’s move so that it actually still got primary prio despite lower prio move value

[split robin]

Jack jab string still beats Stripe Skateboard so…jabs are still good, guys

[lost knot]

3000 concurrent players any given day (even after their major midseason patch we are already back to 3000 concurrent down from 4000) that are split between: rifts, casual 1v1s, casual 2v2s, FFA, ranked 1s, and ranked 2s. I get paired with bronzes-gold all the time as a diamond 3 player and it's just recipe for an auto-lose and drop 25-30 RP while my wins are netting 3-7 RP per.

[lost knot]

brawlhalla (released 2014) has ~15-20k concurrent players any given day while mvs sits at 3k concurrent. it's a small playerbase.

[ionic furnace]

Exactly bro

[bitter bramble]

alot of armor breaking moves are really easy to spam out without thought like morty's down tilt or marvin's gun attacks and against characters that are heavily reliant upon armor (like jason) they can just stuff them out without much thought or counterplay. I suggest that certain the armor breaking quality of a move should be cleansed if used too often between lives (mind you not all, grabs are a notable example of armor breaking moves that should not be effected by this).

[ionic furnace]

And doesn't even have big name ips to it (other than crossovers) so this game is just cooked.. probably live service game fatigue

[pliant pike]

We dont know the console numbers

[stone ermine]

So when is finn getting nerfed again?

The new mechanics gave him two new 0 to deaths

[lofty beacon]

Lord they butchered tf outta Jokers Jab

Man can’t punish anymore😂😭

[grizzled bane]

I was saying comparing two different playstyle games isn't a good comparison

[upper wing]

gizmo nerfs werent enough, gut this spammy rat already

[quick vortex]

give taz a sig where he gains a buff or heals depending on what he eats called "you are what you eat"

[austere crescent]

Make Ranked Best of 3 an optional choice before queue

[little aurora]

Fix the RP system and give us back the Marceline ringout

[cyan patrol]

I really want to like this game but basically every match I can see my attack go straight through the enemy or I get hit when I shouldn't or the game matches me vs players way higher rank than I am so I quit after a few matches

[limber lily]

It's really annoying how shops don't update at the same time the dailies do

Do you want us to spend money? We can't spend money if we don't know when to spend money

[foggy ether]

Skateboard is a grounded attack. Try a Ariel attack next time

[foggy ether]

This is funny and I hope it gets in.
And I can't stand Taz lol.

[quick vortex]

it really should have been in as a sig day 1 tbh it's such a no duh idea for the creature that eats everything

[upper wing]

remove beetlejuice from the game, he has a true infinite on big characters

patch this bs immediately

or remove that perk until its fixed

[soft pike]

add a trollface sticker

[sturdy dagger]

Chewing to leech health would be neat

[stuck sable]

Please change the milk in Vampire Tom and Jerry's win animation to [Tomato Juice]

[sturdy dagger]

Can you guys fix the seam on the side of Marvin's head. Especially if he's going to have costumes without his helmet.

Also please do check animations on variants to make sure things do warp and clip.

[neat harness]

Add back in more items so Bugs bunny can have proper RNG again please

[final shuttle]

I shouldnt get penalized for my partner disconnecting in ranked, thats really BAD. especially when it was 1-1.

[steady shuttle]

U DEVELOPERS ARE DOG BILE

[strong cove]

Beetlejuice is fun af, all he really needs is a teeny bit more kill power and he’s perfect

[mossy hill]

tbh i felt taz kit doesnt fit in fighting game lol

the tornado is BS

no way to hit for certain character

And the duration just BS sometimes

also make taz whatever is this slide swallow attack using charging

range so incosistent wtf

[mossy hill]

and why tf WW didnt receieve nerf on her attacks

it just so BS

hitboxes

FFS MAKE IRON GIANT CANT SPAM THE CAR SPIN THEN JUST MOVE LEFT RIGHT SPAM

they just spam that

and it destroy projectiles... and on top of that they has the projectile shield perk

FFS

its impossible to punish them if they have both

[lofty beacon]

I can tell they ain’t look into her grounded Forward Special, cause I STILL GER HIT WHEN BEHIND HER

[mossy hill]

IKR like her shield bash JUST REMOVE THE ARMOR

she got too much armor

[lofty beacon]

Like At this point, lemme be a play tester

With the people I main, I can tell what moves and hitboxes need to be fix

[mossy hill]

well tbh its also in 1v1 lol

FINALLY FOR FIRST TIME I BEAT THIS MASTER 1 RICK

[upper wing]

when are we putting a lockout on jack side special, everyone plays this character like its shaggy

[mossy hill]

this is so dumb rick can camp and spam their charged gun

on wall

[somber ember]

Insane

Trust me bro rick lazer is not that op 😭

[tiny ocean]

the matchmaking has been really really frustrating, i was playing with a friend as unranked jason with their unranked banana guard and we have been consistently getting matched with platinum and diamond rank players

my samurai jack is in high platinum but its genuinely ridiculous if that dictates how im matched with an unranked character

[mossy hill]

yes but this master rick just BEING PASSIVE

super duper passive

he spam that even im far away

then once its really clear or his cooldown are off

he went up then spam most of his move again

[somber ember]

Honestly bro when a rick is passive spamming lazers

Chars who can block projectiles or ignore them

[mossy hill]

i won against him and +13 (he is top 6 rick)

[somber ember]

Like jasons dash attack

[mossy hill]

im using velma

[somber ember]

Stripes skateboard

[mossy hill]

keep in mind lol

[somber ember]

Etc

[mossy hill]

and -24 against him

what is this logic

[somber ember]

Velma dont u gotta ZTD

[mossy hill]

i lost more than gain against him

[mossy hill]

its hard against rick

[somber ember]

Honestly if hes camping spamming lazer