game-feedback

[stuck sable]

Jesus christ, STOP giving me constant +10 RP matches in a row and then give me -20 when I lose. Thaty os garbage

I hate this game

[light salmon]

servers have been chalked since last update btw

[stuck sable]

STOP GIVING ME 10 POINTS FOR WINS AAAAAA

I HATE THIS

THIS IS SO UNFAIR

STOOOOOP

STOP GIVING ME THESE IDIOTIC MACTHES

STOP

[foggy ether]

We need a literal tea bag dipping in a cup. Then the emotes will be complete

We need The Rock black Adam meme as a emote

[sturdy dagger]

Garnet's voice could be louder

[upper wing]

if finn doesnt get that ladder taken away i might actually uninstall this game

[sturdy dagger]

Garnet's punches just randomly not connecting is a thing...

[grand meteor]

Nerf Marvin he spams so much and does to much knockback and damage

[sturdy dagger]

His knock back is mostly bad. Other then the jab ender and rocket

[grand meteor]

Well when I'm dodging and moving around and 24/7 I'm being blasted by him no cooldown it kinda sucks

Honestly feel like leaving everytime he is the enemy

[sturdy dagger]

He has cool down.

If you talking about purple lazer just assume he wants to do that try to get him to whiff it.

[little heron]

please redo attack decay

i know it exists but it does literally nothing to actually stop spam

[sturdy dagger]

More things just need to be punishable on whiff, and there should be a three attack limit on repeated moves.

[little heron]

yes

[turbid rover]

Og attack delay didn’t really stop spam since you could find a way around it by doing the same move 3 times press another button then go back to spamming

[little heron]

then the should make something new to get around that flaw

im so sick that shaggys and jacks are just spammers

i dont want to fight people who play like that

and in 2's its a toss up on if you even get the chance to punish them

they could have a really good teamate or you could get a really bad one

[turbid rover]

They probably won’t since most games have nothing to stop spamming besides showing you it’s a skill issue

[little heron]

also finn

stop desining characters like him. he's just annoying

he's hard to hit, and his attacks are too fast to be fun to fight

[teal hemlock]

Multiversus im actually begging yall to fix your game its so obvious you dont playtest this crap and quite frankly i dont blame you yall are understaffed prolly overworked and the result is def not worth it but please fix your game ide litterly do anything i love this game so much but every day i question why i still play this crap its insufferable 60% of the characters are just broken either too op lowest skill ceiling ever or just a buggy wreck mortys side air completely doesnt function and that ruined everything about him ive put at least 40 bucks in this game just to be crapped on by the clear lack of playtesting please multiversus please just playtest your game it would solve so many probloms if yall just picked up the controller and playtested this wreck of a game

[stuck sable]

Jack gets absolutely NO punishment at all for just spamming forward special all damn match. I've had matches where one Jack just spawms forward special the whole match while his teammate absolutely destroys us because unless you focus all your damn power on avoiding the forward special you can't avoid it aover and over and over while their teammate just jumps in and gets free kills on us

Jack forward special NEEDS to be limited. It needs to be punishable, it should not be this damn fast with this damn huge hitbox with no whiff at all and no cooldown

AND MAKE HIS HITBOX NOT HIT BEHIND HIM, IT'S HUGE ENOUGH AS IT IS

[sturdy dagger]

You literally have to be on top of Jack to actually punish the side special. Like right next to him attacking the millisecond it's done.🙃 it's possible but very unreasonable.

[sharp fjord]

also worth mentioning that Jack gets focus both from hitting and getting hit...

which means he can use that stronger version even more often

[stuck sable]

Why the hell does he get focus from being hit?
Like, why the hell is the game rewarding playing badly? All other characters have to fight to earn their specials

[little heron]

its so weird

[crimson laurel]

What’s up everyone?

[little heron]

they have cool characters like marvin with proper skill seelings

and then you get banana and jack who so braindead

[teal hemlock]

Multiversus im actually begging yall to fix your game its so obvious you dont playtest this crap and quite frankly i dont blame you yall are understaffed prolly overworked and the result is def not worth it but please fix your game ide litterly do anything i love this game so much but every day i question why i still play this crap its insufferable 60% of the characters are just broken either too op lowest skill ceiling ever or just a buggy wreck mortys side air completely doesnt function and that ruined everything about him ive put at least 40 bucks in this game just to be crapped on by the clear lack of playtesting please multiversus please just playtest your game it would solve so many probloms if yall just picked up the controller and playtested this wreck of a game

[sturdy dagger]

BG is straight forward but not broken, still annoying though.

The biggest issue is how he still has spear active while slowing down near the end of side special. It's visually misleading.

[warm schooner]

So developers, neutral has been degraded to one or both players in 1v1 dashing back and forth until one makes the first mistake. It’s not a good look.

[sturdy dagger]

Running is absurdly powerful.

[little heron]

please rework adam. nothing about fighitn him is fun

[rancid pewter]

have the dev team take iq tests

[haughty thorn]

Game is too slow to do anything else. When every action puts you in a 3 hour unskippable cutscene, you can't really be aggressive. Makes the game loop really boring, but I think the game being slow makes it easier for their netcode to not blow up, so we're probably stuck with this forever. Dont know how much longer I can take it sadge

[sturdy dagger]

I think the games should be a little faster too, but it ain't that slow.

[warm schooner]

It’s definitely not that slow.

[haughty thorn]

I'm obviously being hyperbolic

[teal hemlock]

Yall i might just quit the game till the midseason patch does anybody know the date itll drop

[haughty thorn]

Nah they dont tell us anything till right before. They also dont release patch notes till server goes down for maintenance. PFG either a) doesnt plan things ahead of time, or b) don't respect players enough to let them know about them

[eternal moon]

Please fix batman who laughs voicelines

[sturdy dagger]

Service games often have developers grinding out future content, in lieu of keeping tabs on and fixing the current state of the game.

The 🚱 shows they're heavily focused on things down the line.

[teal hemlock]

Realest thing ive heard all day

They dont playtest the game in the slightest and honestly i dont blame em if i wasnt addicted i wouldnt touch this game ever again

[tulip hinge]

I'm totally done with this game tired of fighting only 0TD finn and jacks

[balmy bloom]

we know tho

its like in less than 2 weeks

its mid season

maybe a week actually idk

what is this stigma that pfg doesnt care about players

they do

they have more communication than any modern devs

ofc they respect us

I have never seen any dev studio continue to acknowledge players complaints like pfg

u guys may think they just ignore it but they legit see it all

and if u see on reddit they create lists of complaints and feedback that they received

like ik its frustrating but theyre still good devs

[drowsy bough]

it's been a thing since the beta since the monetization has always been..special and it's only gotten worse now that we're 3 months past full launch and the meta is still the same

while they do listen to a lot it feels like they don't listen to a lot of things people say

especially since the last change to one of the most-hated characters, finn, was a buff

and then the balancing is still, for lack of a better word, atrocious as well

[rancid pewter]

finn is ridiculous but i havent seen many 0tds on jack

[drowsy bough]

jab-nair chains iirc

ends with dspecial

dont quote me on that

[rancid pewter]

ah

that sounds boring

[drowsy bough]

it is! just like the rest of his kit

[rancid pewter]

I'm a jack main and I agree his kit is a bit dull

[drowsy bough]

he has sauce but he has no sauce if that makes sense

[rancid pewter]

for sure

on visual it looks like powered up side B has sauce but in reality its either just triggering for either the user or opponent

usually the opponent though

honestly the worst part of the game for me is the ridiculous disparity between the visuals of moves and the hitboxes. I bet some of it is netcode and rollback based but even in training mode its absurd how inconsistent it is

[drowsy bough]

remember when the beta got the big hitbox patch

yeah

when's that coming

[tulip hinge]

referring 0tds on Finn only

[rancid pewter]

fr I remember seeing that tweet and getting excited, then they realized that wouldnt make them money

honestly I bet they do playtest these broken characters it's just a skill issue so they cant find the broken stuff 😭

I want to know the last time someone from WB Games or Player First Games chatted in discord to the community directly, not just in this chat either

[dire tinsel]

Why is Jack not f'ing patched yet?

Can't recover high beacuse of his side special. can't recover low because of his fair and dair. And his jab hitbox is so big. This is the type of crap that makes people quit playing. When the online is riddled with Finn's who 0-death, Joker's who fish for nothing but jab, IGs who 0-death. And frustrating characters with no real game plan except playing a projectile character and box them out. This is pathetic.

[balmy bloom]

I have never seen a game where the balancing is good lmao

Even so

its getting there

if they implement small deserved buffs and nerfs then to an extent most will be balanced

its not far off

at all

[balmy bloom]

jack doesnt have 0tds

[foggy ether]

I'm actually sick of seeing “Jack has 0tD” complaints.

When Beetlejuice comes…. Things are gonna be different lol

[balmy bloom]

lmao

I cant wait till ts server gets flooded with nerf beetlejuice

wahhhhhhh

wahhhhhhhh

[foggy ether]

You already know bro.
You already know.
I highly doubt he's gonna suck.
And IF he does, its gonna be because of the complaints that are now lol

[autumn estuary]

hmmmmmmmnnnnnhhh adventure time fern green knight animated legendary banner hrrrrrrrrmh

tonyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[haughty thorn]

literally radio silence for weeks after they said they would be communicating. no patches except nerf lebron and make harley’s hitbox hit from behind (like we needed more jank hitboxes). you know what they did hotfix though? when players found out how to cheese the 20xxl missions on rifts without spending money, also when people made posts about how spending your credits on FC was the most efficient use. They patched that immediately. If they care about their players, they sure don’t show it after getting the bag from WB

[autumn estuary]

so cool to miss out on missions because i woke up late one day lol oh well the obtainable skins aren't good anyway i've wanted crow rick since beta so if i'm ever gonna bother playing that guy it'll probably be for that

[tacit aspen]

i like that we can get glitch skin tokens with cyberbucks

[foggy ether]

I know!

We need a 💊 that's cold emote
“Chill pill”

Ooo what about a “red pill blue pill” with Mobius matrix hand emote?

[sturdy dagger]

Make Morpheus' hands a stage

[balmy bloom]

clearly wb has a say in that, I highly doubt its pfg

and anyway theyre prob working on all the complaints they have, why would they keep communicating when theyre working on the current problems

they already said they see all the complaints and theyre working on it

what more do we need

camera footage of inside

ermm as u can see our lovely playerbase that we are working heres video evidence of inside the studio

daily update, we fixed lebrons ass hair it was too visible

lmao idk what im saying anymore

sussy skibidi sigma

[plush palm]

A daily mission that's like "Give 3 toasts to players on the enemy team" or something would probably be super helpful to the community.

[mossy hill]

they could do some emergency patches

if requiered

meanwhile im waiting for some hitbox fixes

morty up air can hit u even u are just like below the fire lol

like his body even has the hitbopx

im just pointing it up cuz

sometimes i still got hit lol

even im below

[hexed furnace]

Heat vision is literally unusable on Haunted Mansion

[mossy hill]

huh why

[balmy bloom]

BUFF LEBRON

BUFF VELMA

thats all I have to say

thank you

[mossy hill]

lmao they hit lebron no reason

[balmy bloom]

especially lebron

fr

[mossy hill]

like why they nerf lebron no reason

velma is the most balance char in this game rn lol with bunch broken stuff from 99% of roster

thats why she is so bad

cuz she is balance

[hexed furnace]

It just doesn't work

@balmy bloom tell the gentleman

[mossy hill]

is it all of them or just 1v1 cariant?

[balmy bloom]

it just goes through the floor lol

like

it doesnt register

[hexed furnace]

All of them it goes through the floor

Makes me sick

[mossy hill]

ok i saw it lol

its the moveable platform

[hexed furnace]

Not just that

Even on the middle

It won't hit them

Makes me wanna blow chunks

Because I have my only poking tool reduced to being unusable

[mossy hill]

the platform being buggy in that map bruhhh

[balmy bloom]

I want haunted mansion back in ranked lol but ik its not a good idea

[mossy hill]

they need fix velma unable hit the lever in haunted mansion lol

[balmy bloom]

I like haunted mansion overall I like the vibe of it

[hexed furnace]

I HATE IT AHHHH I WANT THEM TO FIX IT

[mossy hill]

so here is funny thing

everyone can hit the lever right?

VELMA UNABLE HIT THE LEVER LOL

[balmy bloom]

so what ur saying is

nerf velma

ah ok

[mossy hill]

bruh

fix that

[balmy bloom]

BUFF LEBRON JAHAMES PLEASE

HE JUST WON GOLD IN THE OLYMPICS

BUFF HIM

HE DESERVES IT

I used to play lebron ocassionally but I cant rn

hes so bad

[mossy hill]

before the current patch

he was still usable

now

its almost unusable

yeah lebron has some projectiles and stuff

but they dont have to nerf it.. nonstop

[balmy bloom]

hes actually unusable now

lost any sauce he had

this last patch just ruined him

If they could undo that and then give him small buff that would be amazing

then hed be balanced

same with velma

BUFF LEBRON AND BUFF VELMA

[mossy hill]

6 more days until patch note

[balmy bloom]

Wait

Actually?

[foggy ether]

I am completely unimpressed by TnJ paddle loop. No one can say “oh just DI” naw bruh. That’s right there with Finn being the dumbest thing in game. Basically an ice climber grab zero to death. Please destroy that paddle. And destroy that Finn ladder.

And oh

[stuck sable]

The ranked matchmaking in this game is pure EVIL. It is not fun, it is not fair, it is not balanced in any way shape or form. It actively punishes anyone who isn't always playing with a friend, and it actively makes new players a MASSIVE burden for whoever they're forced upon as their teammate, and it absolutely SUCKS when you're constantly getting nothing but crap matches that give you 10 per win and 20 per loss. I HATE THIS.

[foggy ether]

Playing a TnJ with over 16,000 wins lol… give me a break. No way my mmr that high

[topaz rose]

At least with Finn there is a DI to escape his combos

T&J paddle is a legitimate loop

The only saving grace is “I dunno, hope they miss 🤷‍♂️”

[foggy ether]

I honestly and truthfully don’t care. It needs to be nerfed.

I’ve tried and tried

[topaz rose]

I mean, should we nerf Black Adam chasing you with up special?

[foggy ether]

Against a good player

No

It’s not happening

[topaz rose]

Or Harley chasing you with up air and up special?

[foggy ether]

That’s way different

And I’m done

[topaz rose]

Done what

[foggy ether]

It needs to be nerfed

Done talking

[topaz rose]

🤷‍♂️

[stuck sable]

The Hitboxes on Black Adam's CLAP are extremely wonky. It should NOT hit enemies behind him, and it should not hit enemies so far in front of his actual explosion ball. I'm fine with this attack being very fast and having MASSIVE knockback, but not when it's this hard to dodge and punish

[foggy ether]

Ayra needs to be nerfed.
And yes black Adam clap needs to nerfed

[versed otter]

Hit boxes need some work. Way too many characters hit behind them on a side attack supposed to move forward. Obvious culprits are BG and SJ but many characters have overall inaccurate hitboxe

[foggy ether]

Hit boxes are all over the place.
Like Morty is really good. Ridiculous hit boxes
But his down air hitbox is bad. Animation go right through some characters.
It’s like that with every character.
Some broken hit boxes others are… weird.
Hurtboxes too

Taz needs nerf too

Batman dive kick need nerf hitbox

Yeah it’s just a bunch of little things

But when they add up its annoying

[balmy bloom]

Woahhh nahhh

Dont take away my beloved

The hitbox is fine it just has massive priority

Well yk makes sense its a dive kick

[balmy bloom]

Oh my god please please please pfg

I need this tnj loop and finn ladder gone

Its disgusting

I genuinely believe that with these 2 gone I and many others will live in total peace

Im so sick of them

[misty violet]

Please can we get the Shaggy Shark Hat Back in the shop sooner or later? I never got it from the event and I didnt see it in the shop for buy even if I wanted to spend my money on it

[dense ledge]

Is the game broken again?

This is like the fifth time I keep getting stuck at Round 1 End result in ranked

[balmy bloom]

Ik ppl hate this lmao but I love it

I hate fighting ppl worse than me

When u fight ppl higher than u then u learn more

[little heron]

i want people AT MY LEVEL

[balmy bloom]

Even more boring

[little heron]

the person i faught was the best taz pllayer in 2's

im gold 4

[balmy bloom]

Ah its taz well why didn't u just say so

Taz sucks

[little heron]

a skill gap like that is never going to be fair

[balmy bloom]

Boooo

[little heron]

not in the hands of someone like him, any charatcer can be really good if the fighter is skilled enough

[balmy bloom]

Nah I mean taz sucks as in to fight

Hes hard to fight against

[little heron]

oh ok

[balmy bloom]

Hes so annoying

Constant tornado sandwhich idk what else

Dogpile is so unfair as well

[lusty sparrow]

can the matchmaking be better tho. i dont mind fighting masters. but dont give me a bronze teammate..hows that fair?

[foggy ether]

Lol its so unfair. It hits like 4 Batman boots before it actually hits lol

I don't care about anything else with. But that Dive kick is too much. You do like 50 dive kicks in less than 60 seconds lol and it leads to kill confirms and easy spike.
It easily needs a nerf

Naw it was. Beta player.

And he had that loop down like drinking water

No escape

Rinse repeat easy

Yeah he was a master I think

I mean

I'm a diamond 4 in 1v1

So yeah

Gold name too

But anyway

TnJ paddle nerf needed

[balmy bloom]

If we get a divekick nerf then the slide nerf has to be reversed cause its horrible if u whiff it, I mean obv just means it requires timing and knowing when to use it but kinda would balance it out

Actually nah yk what

Imma need batman to descend his way back into the lower tiers

So I can say I play a mid tier character

🙏😭

[mossy hill]

honestly all slide attack are annoying lol

like how tf u hit them with normal jab if they miss

[foggy ether]

Ah common man that dash is still really good

[balmy bloom]

Its good im jus saying does it rly need the whiff frames lol he just freezes in place its crazy

[mossy hill]

funny thing that velma down ground attack is actually a projectile

if u read her move list lol

[foggy ether]

What the

[balmy bloom]

For batmans dash, its insanely easy to bait it out, thats why im saying the whiff frames should go back to the amount they were before. Every opponent just jumps a tiny bit and wham im done for

[foggy ether]

I don't know man its really good still

[balmy bloom]

I never run dash attack its always instant lmao

[foggy ether]

I mean Batman got a really good moveset, and man his up tilts and up special is good
His set ups are great
All there needs to be though is that dive kick nerf

[balmy bloom]

Noooo my divekick my beautiful divekick 😭😭😭 Ik it needs a nerf but im not ready to let go

Nahhhh nahhhh batarang is balanced ok thats one thing I can say is in a perfect state rn

Even with perk

Yeah doesnt mean its broken

[sturdy dagger]

Batman has weakened without it, like it's his neutral special

[balmy bloom]

If u take away his batarang power batman instantly becomes low tier im being so deadass rn

It hangs in the balance

Of his entire character

What can u even nerf abt it

Its fine

[foggy ether]

It is really strong, but I'm trying to be frugal with my nerfs lol
Like if one thing, it be that dive kick

[balmy bloom]

Yeah which is why im saying u cant take away his current batarang it would kill him against them

Aight bro nah k I see how it is

Look behind you

[foggy ether]

The most boring Batman just catches you with up tilt and uppercuts you to death lol

[little heron]

i swear to god there isnt a single smart person making this game

no reason for the lag spikes to keep happening this far into the game

[balmy bloom]

The adults are talking seriouslunch

Smh

Joking

[little heron]

comp is unplayable cause of it

[balmy bloom]

Jokes

I jest

He literally will get nerfed im jus saying lemme keep my batarang 🥺

No doubt the divekick is getting gutted

Its easy to parry is it not

Idk I kinda dont use it a lot

I prob should but

Maybe the perk could be 2 weakened then

[foggy ether]

I can at least dodge grabble so that's ok

[balmy bloom]

Aight but they already pretty much nerfed him with the max weakened loll imagine 5 weakened now

The decrease to 3 is basically just calling out batman ngl

I dont contest it tho

Im fine with it

I swear its easy to parry

U shouldnt dodge it cause yk dodge meter just a waste if u can parry it

My characters that need huge nerfs this next patch which is like a week or somethinb

Arya

Joker

Finn

Umm who else

Oh yeah

Tnj

Scumbags

Idk thats pretty much it I think

Taz maybe but maybe I just suck at fighting him

Hes annoying

Alright ur getting touched vro

Jk

Or am i

Im ngl at this point it might be ur internet

Cant be this bad for u

[little heron]

its not

people with ethernet have the same issues

its consistent in a lot of places

it goes beyond just my connection

[rancid pewter]

average superman main

[balmy bloom]

Who me

I dont main superman

What does that even mean anyway lmaoo

[tulip hinge]

Past gold the game sucks, only getting matched agaisnt OTP's

And people with 10k+ wins

[royal wolf]

Oh my God the zoomed in camera in 1v1 is so claustrophobic, like once you get knocked out of a close melee fight you're off the screen

[rancid pewter]

reminder that half of aryas moves come out faster than you can dodge online

[inland talon]

buff ba

[open prairie]

Stop giving rewards to AFK people, 90% of my games has AFKs grinding cybucks

[mossy hill]

MAN ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO HIT LAGGY ARYA MAN

[rancid pewter]

why does a non charged harley nair kill instantly at 90 in the middle of the stage

[balmy bloom]

Theres no way it kills at 90 lmao

Maybe 110 yeah

Never seen uncharged kill at 90 from the middle

[rancid pewter]

just happened to me on townsville

im samurai jack in the middle of the stage roughly slightly in the air, she just taps the button and the hammer kills me left no sweetspot

[mossy hill]

will they nerf batman down kick?

like it shouldnt be able instantly uppercut lol

logic

and this guy just spam down attack cuz it has huge ass hitbox

will they nerf down air batman

its kinda spammable...

and u can just dodge away

easily if u know u will miss

[balmy bloom]

Thats every down air tho

[mossy hill]

not every down air..

[balmy bloom]

It can be comboed into up air

Do u mean the dive kick

[mossy hill]

pretty much

i thought its down attack

it prob down special

and its kinda spammable...

air down special

dunno how that thing logic work he just got off from using dive kick and jump dive kick 2 more time

[tulip hinge]

Are they planning on reworking Taz for the 12908312908th time again?

It's not fun playing as or vs him

just waiting running away from his tornado spam and up special

until either one gets tired

[mossy hill]

@tulip hinge black adam too need get some changes

huge ass mobility? with huge hitbox on neutral air?

[balmy bloom]

I would just like to say that I've been using divekick primarily since the beta, now they're all copying me 😞💤

Lmao

Anyway

Yeah idk

I dont want it nerfed tho cause im a batman main

Im not ready to say goodbye 🥺

[mossy hill]

just gave it endlag if u want to spam it tho

[balmy bloom]

Tbh I'd rather lose most of the ability to spam it but still be able to start combos with it

[mossy hill]

i mean... batman already has combo with jab and batarang itself into uppercut i think

[native cedar]

I've ran into so many AFK players in FFA and its so annoying, yes, I get it, The gamemode is hectic, but dont go afk and ruin it for others, please find a way to punish these players, like maybe find a way to watch games where someone had 0 dmg, and give them some time where they cant play pvp

[cinder sable]

Don’t give us missions forcing us to play lousy ffa mode and players won’t need to afk in games and diminish other players’ experience

Until then I will continue to afk ffa matches

[native cedar]

yes I know that not having the challenges would make you not play it, but even if there were challenges, just have fun playing, but I understand you dont want to play it, but you can still try to win, and if these FFA challenges werent here, I dont think people would play the mode, so at least make the challenges fun

[tacit aspen]

why does velmas van do donuts in the middle of the stage before deciding what side to drive off

half the counters gone before it gets to the ledge

[quartz aspen]

Can you please have an update where while in the fighter shop you are given the choice to use fighter currency or battle pass currency like the beta had ? The current system is not good at all, let is choose please like before

[native cedar]

battle pass currency? do you mean gelemium?

[tacit aspen]

if im not mistaken didnt they mention bringing replays?

[brisk lodge]

It's extremely buggy, but there are currently two different ways to purchase fighters, and they use different currency sets!

You can buy fighters:

• Through the "Fighter" screen. Viewing a fighter that's currently locked lets you view a purchase screen. This screen lets you unlock them for gleamium or, if the character is available with a unique currency (like Circuit Credits), that currency.

• Through the shop itself. Scroll down the shop to the "Fighter Shop" section, and you can buy all fighters for either Gleamium or Fighter Currency.

I really hope the devs know that this is broken as heck, though. For instance, yesterday I had a 20% off discount on buying Stripe for 800 Gleamium... but that discount only applied if I unlocked him through the fighter screen. On the shop page, I had the "option" to pay the full 1000 Gleamium. Having different prices for the same item in different parts of the shop seems... unintuitive, not to mention potentially problematic if I paid an extra 200 Gleamium for no reason because I found the "wrong" purchase option!

[tacit aspen]

for the love of this game fix ranked matchmaking

plat 4 being matched with bronze 4 i cant tell if you guys are purposely ruining the game or you guys are not all there in the head

[sharp fjord]

I think this probably has to do with player pool

[lofty beacon]

Why isn’t Gizmo’s flying car considered a projectile if he can basically toss it at you

[twilit rivet]

I wish I could ping all the Devs, but What is being done about The AFK players in FFA?
I don't usually play FFA's but I do when I have a daily for them but I've noticed because of this event people are just afking to farm currency and kind of killing the game mode for people. There doesn't seem to be a way to report these players either.

[sharp fjord]

I don't think it's for farming currencies, honestly... people just want to get rid of the missions

[hollow narwhal]

Please allow for Garnet's Bubble to stop bugs' safe again

[limber hound]

HONESTLY who thought it was a good idea at WB to TAKE AWAY ATTACK DECAY SO PEOPLE CAN JUST SPAM MOVES ALL MATCH

[pine lava]

Rp gain/loss currently is so weird.
I lost 2-1 and lost 25, but I win 2-1 and gain 9.
I wish in an upcoming patch, the points you gain and lose are more consistent.
Where you gain/lose the same amount of rp when you win/lose (being a lesser amount if you win/lose 2-1).

[versed otter]

Matchmaking needs a fix. Don't. Make. Solos. Play. Premade.

Seriously, it doesn't make any sense, if there's no pumped up RP for a win, it's almost impossible to win in pickups

[hollow narwhal]

If they only queue groups VS groups the queue times would inflate which would cause for less players.

Also there should probably only be an RP boost if you're fighting people a league above you.

[obsidian lintel]

Is AFKing Bannable?

[versed otter]

I honestly don't care for the wait if my games are more balanced.

And dude being able to get coordinated with your partner is equivalent to having players leagues above you.

[hollow narwhal]

I honestly don't care for the wait if my games are more balanced.

Having everyone be individual doesn't guarantee balanced gameplay. all it does is, again, inflate queue times.

being able to get coordinated with your partner is equivalent to having players leagues above you.

Unfortunately that's not how that works. If two players are within the same rank as you, they can/should get paired against you due to rank. Teamwork doesn't mean they're stronger. Maybe try working with your teammate (if they're not AFK) and coordinate some combos?

Also maybe if 2s isn't working out try 1s. That'll eliminate the teamwork aspect of it

[versed otter]

If you say so.

[hollow narwhal]

Just a suggestion. If teamwork really is a problem you can always find someone here to work with!

comms and all!

[pure silo]

@wintry sentinel tf is wrong with you. thats not garnet

[wintry sentinel]

what

[pure silo]

im plat 5 rn and get matched into you what is that

[wintry sentinel]

idk
nobody playing this game

[pure silo]

they should wait 2 more months to balance and remove bo3 system i guess

[wintry sentinel]

nah
bo3 is ok
everything else is not

[pure silo]

forced bo3 is not okay, to have the option to bo3 would be okay

[wintry sentinel]

nah
bo3 is right format

it prevents gimmicky players from farming elo

[pure silo]

not really

[hazy bone]

Option is always better than forced

[pure silo]

or atleast have a balanced roster when you force people to bo3

[hazy bone]

Just annoying to get stuck playing the same character/person. I sometimes play again someone that last the full 3 of the BO3, to then have them again for another BO3. Extremely exhausting

Honestly if they had some type of boost for rematching someone again (if there was a option instead of forced) it would feel more rewarding to beat someone for the BO3

It's just too time consuming

Little tiring

Burnout it a game killer and this is a good reason to have burnout

[little heron]

the netcode is so bad it will sometimes force players into being afk

its not always their fault

thought some probably were just being jerks

[tulip hinge]

Only playing vs Diamond III+ and masters as bronze and silver

[grizzled bane]

How do you mess up so bad with your netcode that you somehow switched my announcer's pack mid-match to an announcer's pack I don't even own???

[grizzled bane]

If that's ranked, then their MMR set-up failed, since your win-lose percent would be different from theirs after the first BO3

[urban pasture]

matchmaking system still too rudimentary, plat + dia vs bronce + silver.. but at least I got 30RP instead of 5, but just means this makes even less sense than it did before

[little heron]

adam has no right being this safe to play

i hate playing agaisnt him

so braindead

you an just amp with him

he has too much control over where the fight goes

you never take ANY risks as adam

[tulip hinge]

Taz Gameplay = spam side special from the air

Get up special off cd

start cycle again

spam spam spam

dodge? np it's a multihit

you hit him while in tornado? has priority and you get 3-hit insetad

Whoever designed him should get fired

[prime magnet]

so question, is there no exclusive stuff for betta players anymore? like the finn outfit only returning beta players got isnt exclusive anymore. My friend who didnt play the beta bought it in the shop. Some stuff from beta pass they bougtht too. So youre saying that we dont have to buy the battle pass or be beta players to get this stuff?

[prime magnet]

like nothing is exclusive anymore from beta to battle pass items to event items

[little heron]

I LOVE FIGHTING MASTERS 1 PLAYERS AS A GOLD 5

THIS SYTEM IS SO FUN

[tulip hinge]

I just fought a Master V Rick

Won the match still but i am silver 2

The more you play the game the more you realize how little thought they put into it apparently

[copper veldt]

old multiversus was better

now it looks like super smash bros ultimate

[native cedar]

isnt that a good thing, ssbu is one of the best platform fighters in the world

[native cedar]

I know it is man, yesterday I tried ranked to climb out of bronze because I dont play ranked, got matched with one of the best finns in the world

[cloud forum]

i just went against #2 ranked player in the world and i’m a platinum 1 shaggy 👍

[cyan patrol]

This game had so much potential but the bad hitboxes and poor matchmaking have never been done quite right

[cloud forum]

yeah

they should make ranked system like brawlhalla where you play a couple matches and your rank gets determined from how you played

and then go against people from your rank not mmr

[copper veldt]

melee was better

multiversus camera+old movement too

it's like the beta is the full game and the full game is the beta

bring back old game PLEASE

[native cedar]

I havent played melee but people do say its really good, but I never said ssbu was better, and I dont think we need old movement back, it was way too fast and the games were really quick, the speed of the game ( for me ) feels great

[copper veldt]

personnally i loved fast movement

[gleaming sinew]

Set knockback angles and fixed hitboxes would get this game 50% to the way it needs to be.

[gentle zinc]

Only things exclusive are the things you got for buying the founders packs and tech tests, and the evo items Everything else can be bought or will be on a pass

Unless they bring the Evo stuff back when Multiversus shows up there again

[gentle zinc]

Probably would tbh.

[prime magnet]

That's dumb so only badges and banners are the only exclusive stuff. Also the fact that all returning people's items are now purchasable and that's a huge middle finger to them

[gentle zinc]

I think profile icons too. I'm cool with it. I like exclusive stuff you had to earn more than buy. Battlepass stuff idc it's just cheaper.

[prime magnet]

Earn like in event stuff?

The matrix banner you had to earn to get with the matrix grind fest is now purchasable if you find it in the shop

So the whole shtick is that you can spend all your time on this to get an item orrr you can wait and spend a few bucks on it

[gentle zinc]

Like ranked rewards really

I don't think that stuff should ever come back

[prime magnet]

See id be happy if it weren't for it being a jack only skin

[gentle zinc]

Everything else that isn't from a founder's pack or early testing I think should be able to return. It feels like a punishment to come in later and not be allowed cosmetics just because

[gentle zinc]

Agreed

L decision on their part. I like Jack but never gonna play him so it's a useless skin for me

[prime magnet]

Same

[iron spoke]

Hey, the game is still facing disconnect issues that make the game feel unplayable because the game lag spikes and makes people walk off the stage with no control

[turbid rover]

I don’t think they would make 4 variants for every character for free tbh

As much as I won’t it to happen

[stuck sable]

Bo3 is awful. Pretty sure the vast majority of the games population hate it as well

[stuck sable]

10 points per match is NOT a fair goddammned matchmaking system when I get them 4 damn matches in a row and I'd lose between 20 to 30 on a loss

[lime pawn]

I read "BO3" and thought y'all were talking about Call of Duty

[stuck sable]

10 points is NOT a fair reward for playing 3 goddamn matches against anyone. 10 pints was a fair reward when the game was best out if one match. Best out of 3 should NEVER be goddamn 10 points

At least not when you're using a diotic MMR system to determine matchmaing. If MMR determines the match it should determine the points to

Stick to a lane

do you want ranked to be based on ranks or do you want it to be based on goddamn MMR?

[grizzled bane]

Erm... Why are your servers so bad that you make Jab1 into Jab2 not true?

[gentle zinc]

that's fair but more than 1 per season is all I ask.

[turbid rover]

I think that would make the community angry tbh because it would be like why did they choose that character instead of that one maybe they could’ve given beetle juice skins but depending on his gameplay trailer people might care about that

[stone ermine]

can you please nerf black adam?
thank you

[late jewel]

Rick 20XX's portal gun should be changed to the same unique one he's shown to have in his profile portrait art.

[sturdy dagger]

Really would like alternate colors, it would be genuinely less garish than the highlights.

Also a light shader for matching variants.

Highlights do take a steaming dump on the aesthetics of the game, much less ruin how costumes look themselves.

I don't think people pay $5-$20 for a costume to look like a gummy on other people's screens.....

Do the beta team colors at least. 🫠

[cloud forum]

you could turn off the colors in the settings tho

[sturdy dagger]

I know... I mostly just want alternate colors though, it's a FG staple and MVS for some reason just don't have it.

And Highlights genuinely make clips of the game look bad.

[tulip hinge]

They could even get people to buy more gleamium for cheap-ish chromas, could range from 50 to 200 per color

[stone ermine]

can they still remove perks or nerf them? cause morty's bomb is one of them

[sturdy dagger]

100%

[sturdy dagger]

They said they may change them, in the Jack stream.

[stone ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-good-cdi-gif-27544019

[sturdy dagger]

In two days, we'll find out if feedback is ignored 🫠

[fervent drum]

Please, for the love of god, keep balance patches coming. This has been HELL since y'all left us with Finn and SJ.

[harsh bone]

Nobody needs 30 seconds to pick preselected perks. Let's lower that to 15 max.

[mossy hill]

i mean thats the break time lol

sometimes if its BO3 if i want pee really bad after that 1st match

i just use that 30 sec gap to go to toilet really quick 🤣

[cloud forum]

you don’t need 30 that’s why you ready up, but if the other person doesn’t then they do need that 30

[dire tinsel]

If these devs don't f'ing fix Jack, Finn and Joker with the next patch I'm absolutely done with this game. This is unacceptable to drop Jack and then go silent.

[mossy hill]

man istg

can the game stop making me lost 25

against higher rank than me

and its the same person

i only gain 19 if win against them

which kinda dumb

[dusky parcel]

https://youtu.be/9oKBVi9ZNuI?si=9eK5yduYTCYQ5chE

It's a kinda long video but an accurate depiction of the current state of MVS

[harsh bone]

Remove Jerry loops. 70% off of a vacuum uptilt that goes into a kill is stupid.

[cyan roost]

NERF FIN

[wintry sentinel]

bo3 are better concept. execution of it is fatal tho

[stuck sable]

I think forced best of 3 is a very flawed concept because:

1. The game doesn't increase the reward you get to match having played 3 games to get it. Best out of one meant ranking was a lot faster, and meant matches where you only get 10+ against lower ranks wasn't a massive waste of your time.
2. The game frequently bugs out in the rematch screen, meaning you don't get any points at all. I've had this happen at least 6 times recently. I'd much rather get points per match.
3. It makes ALL started ranked games very time consuming and tedious.
4. Forcing you to rematch doesn't account for AFK teammates
5. Forcing you to rematch doesn't account for teammates who are deliberately throwing the game.
6. Forcing you to rematch against clearly higher ranked enemies with a large skill gap is in the majority of cases not going to change the outcome of the match and is going to feel extremely unfair for the lower ranked.
7. Forcing you to rematch with enemies using extremely cheap and tedious tactics such as camping the entire match is extremely tedious.

Here's how I'd keep the best out of 3 while making it optional:

1. Ranked reward and penalty are doubled.
2. At the end of the first match, both teams are asked if they want to rematch.
3. If the winning team does not agree to rematch, they get half the ranked reward.
4. If the losing team does not agree to rematch, they get the full loss penalty.
5. If the winning team agrees to a rematch but the enemy team says no, they get 75% of the full reward.
6. If the losing team agrees to a rematch but the winning team does not, they get no loss penalty.
7. If both teams agree to a rematch, they are locked into best out of 3.
8. At the end of a best out of 3, the winning team gets the full ranked reward.
9. At the end of a best out of 3, the losing team gets half the penalty for agreeing to do a rematch.

If this is too complex of a system to make, I'd rather we just did away with best out of 3 entirely. It is not balanced and fair and fun in its current state.

[mossy hill]

Im gonna kinda add this

if the character win rate or use rate is super low why not gave them some stuff

[stuck sable]

I also think the players ranks should be shown BEFORE the match, not just after. I really don't see any reason this should be hidden from the player as it is valuable knowledge of what to expect from their enemy and their teammate. If player first games don't think players should know what they're in for before a match, then stop doing these incredibly unfair matchups. The player deserves to know what kind of an enemy they are facing ESPECIALLY if you're going to disregard ranked based matchmaking to do chaotic MMR based matchups with players of varying ranks.

[foggy ether]

Idk why every time I say “ranked rewards and loss is doubled” people don’t understand

To me, a rematch should be higher stakes

Your essentially doubling down

[stuck sable]

I just feel best out of 3 made ranked a massive slog because the rewards are the same as they were before but now the games are 2 to 3 times as long. That is excruciating when you're having a bad matchup.

[mossy hill]

yeah esp people that using worst character

[gentle zinc]

Give the new character the skin and pick an old one for that season. Just to get everyone a ranked skin. Then at some point they can make a ranked Shop to let people pick the ones they want for the season alongside the new character that gets theirs

People can whine that their character didn't get it that season all they want eventually everyone will have it

[mossy hill]

fix agent smith hitbox..

HOW I GOT HIT ON HIS LEGS

WHEN HE JUMP SHOT FORWARD

[barren elm]

Bro fix the game I’m literally playing online and my controls are not letting me move and my controller is on it is not dead and when I’m playing training it lets me play I haven’t played multi-verses in about a couple days in the city because it will not let me move with my controls for some reason i’m about to quit multiversus If they don’t fix this game

My controller is not broken or dead

[open prairie]

There is no reason for the banan to destroy projectiles with the side special

Theres 0 risk on spamming it

[sturdy dagger]

I understand giving the dive itself a hitbox, but I don't get why is it also doing bullet damage.

[mossy hill]

i felt its so dumb tho

[eternal moon]

Think you guys should rework the camping mechanic. It literally never works and above all you have to meet certain conditions for it to come up and it takes years for it to show up and affect someone camping.

I’m so tired of queuing up and fighting 90% of people that just dash dance at the edge corner of the stage, jumping around in one spot, waiting for you to approach. I’m tired of playing cat and mouse with people who sprint away from you the entire match and wait for me to do something. Every game I have to chase someone down. It’s so annoying. I’ve only seen the camping prompt come up once in a match and this guy was 100% not wanting to play the game. I get people have their own playstyle and play they want. Cool. Do that. There’s always ways around stuff. I’m diamond rank but man it gets worse and worse. At this point no one wants to play they just jump around and camp you out. Please fix the stop camping mechanic. It doesn’t work the way it’s supposed to and no one sees it

[eternal moon]

Also dash dancing, camping and running away then try to fish for jab. Boring playstyle to go up against you guys don’t punish people enough for camping. Like I said the stop camping mechanic takes way too long to show up. Fought like so many gizmo players not pressing any buttons and just running away and camping. Not once did the stop camping prompt come up. The game is slower than open beta so camping is at an all time high in this game. At this point it’s meta. I fight master rank players who pick finn, camp with charge attack and run away the entire match. Refusing to play.

[ebon olive]

nerf samurai jack all around and nerf jokers 0td its f*cking embarrassing get it together you get repercussions for everything but spamming its sad

[normal laurel]

fix lag issue and fix the hit boxes on shaggy

fix black adams clap hit box and shaggys kick hit box

[dire tinsel]

This. People should not be rewarded for dash dancing at one end of the stage to initiate every interaction. There needs to be an actual punishment for this type of behavior.

[sturdy dagger]

Whoever designed Water Tower zero consideration of Iron Giant's existence.

[lofty beacon]

Everyone who has an hitbox issue should record and post each on in #clips

[upper wing]

this.

[tacit aspen]

Can yall speed velma up a little, people are dodging out of attacks and still hitting me before i can complete 1 single move

[late jewel]

Please allow us to use any skin in the training mode like in the beta. I liked it because I want to see how a skin looks in motion before deciding if I want to buy it

[lofty beacon]

Whoever thought it was a good idea to a vacuum to Jacks forward jab never gotten hugs as a kid and it shows

[dire tinsel]

So I see that the new event coming out has yet another currency. In what world has multiple currencies ever been received well? Much less introducing new event currencies every few weeks? I genuinely do not think the devs understand what they're doing sometimes. This game has had a very rocky time since it re-released and they keep doing things that actively push people away.

[blazing tapir]

Can somebody please tell me why, i am almost Plat 1 with Jack and my teammates are always Xxiamawesome12345667 with no skin shaggy or any other cosmetic, bro is bottom barrel no rank whatsoever, the enemy team is both diamond rank, it’s actually embarrassing

No point of playing if i have to fight god himself and my teammate is a toddler

Tldr fix ranked matchmaking so i have equal standing and not playing at a disadvantage bc my teammate isn’t even ranked or is level 2

[tacit aspen]

could be a season thing they're trying, maybe itll stay maybe they try something else

[sturdy dagger]

Can Tom get a slight reduction on his hands and feet. It's kinda freaky looking.

[dire tinsel]

For sure, they could be trying it out. What surprises me is that it has never been received well in any game so why even try it? I feel like they need a normal person in the room to say "Hey, you know nobody will like this, right?" before implementing new features/gimmicks.

[stone ermine]

So when its time to nerf iron giant
Like leave him low tier

[tacit aspen]

probably not thinking about it all the way thru, i do believe they said it was to try and help the ones who didnt get skins from events because they couldnt get the challenges done, i could be mistaken

[stone ermine]

And find a way to ban him on ranked

[sturdy dagger]

He's fine, I want more giant characters honestly. When's the Rampage crew coming, would play day one!

[dire tinsel]

Could be. I think a universal currency for event skins is far more accessible and appreciated by the players than 3 different currencies.

[mossy basin]

One character every 4 weeks and 3 characters per season is a good pace !

Keep it up PFG, the game is awesome !

[sharp fjord]

1 balance patch per season is not enough tho

[tacit aspen]

i agree, maybe thatll be the next step

[eternal moon]

Bro facts it’s getting so out of hand. You would think me being diamond I fight people who play the game. No. It’s actually way worse, because obviously they wanna climb. But because of the speed of the game dash dancing and camping works. Like I said the camping mechanic takes a million years to show up. It doesn’t work the way it’s supposed to

Like if we are all being real none of us have ever ever seen the “stop camping” prompt that comes up above someone’s head and deletes their meter for camping. It rarely happens. I’ve only seen it once others probably didn’t even know that mechanism was in the game because it’s bad

[quick vortex]

the stop camping apparently only appears if you whiff attacks which is the most insane way to have it appear

[sturdy dagger]

No camping doesn't work, when does Harley not run and fish dash.

Whiffing and running is really good. Blocking and grabs doesn't slow the game, having characters get rewarded heavily for hitting a jab does.(Also literally making the game slower 😏)

Like you don't want to risk getting hit because you can get ToD, but there's little to no consequences for whiffing...... So whiff-run-whiff till the cows come

[eternal moon]

@quick vortex @sturdy dagger yeah that’s insane. I hope they fix that soon because truth be told I’m starting to not have fun anymore. Everygame is someone dash dancing in a corner jumping around refusing to play and just camping and fishing for safe options so even if you try to punish them they can dodge. The stop camping mechanic needs to be fixed and done right, whiffing moves is an insane condition for the stop camping to show up

[compact sable]

Fix servers on ranked the amount of times i disconnect is crazy

[remote dirge]

I recently endured a defeat at the hands of a Tom and Jerry player, and I must say that their character design appears to be excessively overpowered. The seamless interplay and precise execution of their moveset present an almost insuperable challenge, culminating in an experience that is deeply frustrating. I fervently hope that Player First Games addresses this imbalance with due urgency, as neglecting to do so could precipitate a disenchanted player base. The delicate nuances of game balance are essential for sustaining player engagement and ensuring the enduring vitality of the game's community.

[foggy ether]

I think its funny that they literally just said
“Perk”
“Fighter”
“Prestige”
Currency.
Like didn't even make a name for it.

Then, if they want to introduce a new “currency” each season its given a name. Idk, the games market could definitely be better on so many levels.

[foggy ether]

TnJ paddle loop. He's fine except for that combo string.
Its a true zero to death.
I played a TnJ player, they had over 16,000 wins.
It felt incredibly unfair because we were basically same level of skill, but if they hit one hit and managed to convert into the loop, then I had zero chance.
And yes, I escaped a couple times from death hits, but what good is escaping when they can immediately go for it again and again and again?
TnJ needs a nerf

[stuck sable]

STOP PUTTING ME IN MATCHES WITH A CRAP LOW RANK IDIOT TEAMMATE AGAINST HIGH RANK OTHER TEAMS WITH ONE GODTIER DIAMOND PLAYER AND A CRAPPY BRONZE.

I HATE GETTING 10 POINTS FOR HAVING TO CARRY AN IDIOT OR LOSING 20 FOR HAVING TO CARRY AN IDIOT

[gentle zinc]

Them wins Jesus.

[gentle zinc]

The vocabulary is immaculate.

[foggy ether]

Yeah no doubt he only plays TnJ.

[arctic ibex]

my account says im not allowed to play online can anyone help?

[drowsy bough]

Serious Finn nerfs that I personally think should be instated:
Make him unable to hold his charged attacks for more than 1.5 seconds total
Make B.MO cost 2100 coins and make him a one time use again
Make the damage/knockback scaling with his Backpack Strength perk severely less than it is now
Change knockback on moves so that the 0td is dead

I mean this wholeheartedly, if devs do not fix hitboxes and the aggressively meta characters, this game is going to be dead in a month.

[upper wing]

Shaggy is too strong. You can outplay him the whole match and he just gets a few hits and kills you, tone down his damage and knockback

[keen aurora]

I started multiversus today and won about 25 unranked games today with a good win rate since I’m experienced in platform fighter games. I load into ranked and every single fight I’ve had are against diamond SWEATS when I’m in bronze.. on my first day. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE WB

Game so dead y’all can’t find me fellow bronze or even silver/gold players to vs?

[foggy ether]

I unplugged my console and reset game

[foggy ether]

It’s based on mmr, so even though you a bronze, you can technically fight a master if you somehow had the same mmr

It needs to be reevaluated

[foggy ether]

I miss his combos. I’d rather have his fun stomp combos than than just “jab2 uppercut” dead lol

[upper wing]

i just hate that almost every button he has is a kill option and he can just start swinging in your direction and get you to 100 from a few hits

[gentle zinc]

Yes

But giant character.

Wait I'm trippin

[drowsy bough]

why does Smith have a hurtbox behind him

if I lose another set because of it I'm gonna start tweaking

[quiet hinge]

Remove Jack from ranked until he doesn't hit you from anywhere with anything. The character is broken on every conceivable level. Ffs, this is terrible.

[dire tinsel]

Because these devs do not know what they're doing.

[peak wharf]

I think if they adjusted Ranked to where you could que for single matches, best of 3, or a best of 5 would be a good solution to recent controversy over the forced best of 3 they implemented.

[glad remnant]

Finn’s new baseball outfit is considered a shark week outfit when it should be sports attire

[narrow flame]

Im happy that PFG is hiring more people. I'm starting to think the core team had no idea how to make a fighting game. Good for them for hopefully bringing on experts on the subject

[sturdy dagger]

Is this a gag post, or did they actually acquire some fighting game dev?

[narrow flame]

They are 100% hiring more people on their team. I'm sure we all know why, and I'm all for it

[gentle zinc]

i am also ready for it

[narrow flame]

Indeed. I just don't understand why they would have big moves like Smash (Harley Nair, Jack Side Special, Arya DTilt, etc), but not have a shield button like Smash (the main defensive reason for the big moves that don't require precise timing of giving up position). The shield button is the main reason moves like those can exist in a platform fighters without them being broken.

That or much better, faster movement

[gentle zinc]

i think most platform fighters are scared to do it

cause I don't think any others have a shield

[stuck sable]

Morty is still the god of camping in ranked, challenged for that position only by Reindog players.

Oh and Black Adam I guess, can't forget mr "I'm going to stand on the other side of the map spamming the feet tickle attack in my anti projectile bubble and if you come after me I'm going to clap, lightning, and then fly away to the other side of the map" rinse repeat

[sharp fjord]

I just hate the high rewarding bs, like jason's jab2-teleport, BA's clap and 4 moves kill combo, jack's nearly whole kit is cheese, full of multihits that can't be avoided, attacks hitting behind characters... seriously, stop making moves with little to no counterplay

[stuck sable]

I really dislike Jack's and Black Adam's wonky hitboxes on their attacks hitting you even behind them.

[gentle zinc]

did I fight you bt chance

[sharp fjord]

I doubt it... I'm in SA

[topaz rose]

I will never respect Harley or Black Adam mains lmao

Never have even since beta

[stuck sable]

Oh come on Harley is honest... ish.

[gentle zinc]

this is valid

[gentle zinc]

just had to be sure

[topaz rose]

No whiff endlag

[mossy hill]

For me add finn,joker

[topaz rose]

Fair

[mossy hill]

Cuz the BS combo

[topaz rose]

Harley mains love to convince themselves their entire playstyle isn’t just all aerials down tilt and up special spam

[stuck cave]

Harley is mostly fine but I always feel like I should be able to punish her slide but she slides so far lol

[topaz rose]

The hitbox shouldn’t continue when she’s already not freaking moving

On ledge

[sharp fjord]

harley right now has 45.7% winrate

[topaz rose]

🤷‍♂️

[topaz rose]

I fought like three Harley’s in a row that had zero clue how to do anything that isn’t this

Maybe that’s why

I guess the average Harley main isn’t very adaptable?

[sharp fjord]

I think they could make her a bit more punishable for her exploited moves but compensate her with some kill power

[topaz rose]

Eh

What about nair?

Or up special up air up special up air up air?

[sharp fjord]

my only problem with her is because she can turn every whiff into a combo in the air, and I think that's bs

[topaz rose]

Worlds most forgiving side air

She whiffs anything and just throws out another move

Until it hits

[sharp fjord]

and that's it for at least 6 rounds

[topaz rose]

The nair whiff hurtbox is so stupid

Finn jab somehow always misses it

But up tilt does??

[sharp fjord]

gizmo right now has 59.9% winrate

also busted

[topaz rose]

Screw Guzmi

Gizmo*

Better Finn

Mf literally has the same situational ledge tod that Finn does

[sharp fjord]

finn is 49.6% winrate

[topaz rose]

Wow

I think the average Finn main is a bit on the dumber side

Still not Shaggy dumb, but on the dumber side

[sharp fjord]

shaggy is 47.1%

I'm refering to 1s, just to be clear

[topaz rose]

I figured

[sharp fjord]

iron giant is 35.8%

[stone ermine]

so gyzmo nerfs when?
how can taz get the sandwich nerf and gyzmo has that arrow bs

[stuck sable]

on which move?
I now a lot of her moves are very punishable

especially her trash tier side special

[topaz rose]

Every move

All aerials most the time

Mostly because they can just drift away every single time they whiff

Which is pretty often

[stuck sable]

Her down charge has a lot of whiff if you miss, her charged up special has a lot of whiff if you miss it too, her side special has so much whiff time it's not even worth using which is why you so rarely see good harleys using her side special at all

[topaz rose]

Isn’t up special just the bat?

[stuck sable]

Not if you charge it, then she does the bat and then a twirl, and you're locked into the twirl

[topaz rose]

That’s up special?

Isn’t that up tilt?

[stuck sable]

Oh

No I meant up charge neutral attack

[topaz rose]

Hammer?

The bat twirl is up tilt

Sorry up tilt

Up special grounded is just bat

The little jump bat swing

[stuck sable]

Hammer charge standing still has whiff lag. Not sure about tha aerial hammer

[topaz rose]

Harley’s only ever use the easy to not get punished on whiff moves

[stone ermine]

gee game
thanks for punishing that I WON THE GAME
THE OTHER ONE RQ

and get a penalty

so funny

[stuck sable]

I dunno, I use down charge constantly, I use bombs and confettu boxes constantlyt since explidive confetti is such a fun perk

[topaz rose]

Basically never see Harley’s use this anymore I think

I dunno tho

Last three Harley’s I fought were all mindless

Just kept spamming aerials down tilt and up special

Made one of them rage quit

[stuck sable]

the up tilt bad has a really tiny hitbox even if it's really fast, her up special hammer while not having a lot of whiff lag is not an insant attack

[topaz rose]

I dunno who tf on the dev team decided she needed a hip hitbox

On up tilt

[topaz rose]

Up special hammer?

[stuck sable]

I don't think it changes much

[stuck sable]

I meant bat.

[topaz rose]

It’s just goofy sounding

It feels like they’re saying “so yeah this hitbox just straight up won’t make sense”

[stuck sable]

It's not a super fast attack, it's pretty telegraphed

I'd say Bugs bat is much worse

[topaz rose]

Of course it is

Bugs up air is just neutral air 2

But it happens to send up

[stuck sable]

I hate bugs

[topaz rose]

I just hate Bugs aerials

Everything else I’m fine with honestly

[stuck sable]

Yeah.

[foggy ether]

Finn is definitely top 3.

Because simply running away and walking backwards is so strong in this game

It helps Finn

He can just charge his grounded attacks and wait. Turn around and attack

It’s so strong and annoying and stupid actually

And I’m sick of players complaint about Jack hitboxes

[mossy hill]

its so dumb character that has slide attack

but if they miss their body still below and not stood up yet for first jab to hit...

[foggy ether]

Also
TnJ ain’t no mid tier, sorry Void

He just isn’t

That paddle loop is stupid

[mossy hill]

tbh they are top 5

they got too safe combo , super good projectile

[foggy ether]

He can throw 3 sticks of dynamite bro

[mossy hill]

yeah but its a perk

[foggy ether]

Stops everything

And can kick an extra rocket

[mossy hill]

even without the perk that 1 dynamite per time is so annoying too

[foggy ether]

AND a Jerry rocket

Why?!

[mossy hill]

jerry rocket hit much much harder

than normal rocket SOMEHOW

[foggy ether]

It all leads into another move

[mossy hill]

when he air up special

[foggy ether]

Also sick of getting wall bounced on ledge wall for no reason and dying because of increased knock back

[mossy hill]

its kinda funny how the enemy when they miss their slide

then they just animation just snapped into attack when they attacking

while we we tried hit them

[foggy ether]

Yeah it’s just camping

Neutral is literally camping

In this game

[mossy hill]

meanwhile i tried punished them for missing the slide BUT CUZ THEY ARE TOO LOW my jab MISS and their animation instantly snapped into side attack

[foggy ether]

Yup

Its so frustrating

Meanwhile an Ayra doing double special

Double up special… zero death

Like you guys aren't cool at all

Those things are game breaking

And yet all you hear is

“Jack is broken best character super hitbox”

I've played Jack enough to see so many attacks whiff

And there is ENOUGH end lag on his attacks

There is SO much time to punish

I see it all the time

Side B can have nerf just so people can actually play the character and people stop complaining about it

Jack ain't no top tier

Maybe in 2s

But definitely not 1v1

[mossy hill]

the down special yes has good end lag but HE JUST NEED TONE DOWN HITBOX

i saw a tweet in reddit

1 of pfg dev i think said that the game didnt use Z axis thats why the vertical attack hitbox are so fked

[foggy ether]

Ayra
Finn
TnJ
Taz

These characters need some serious looking into nerfing.
Other characters have minor tweaks.
Jack is a minor tweak. Not some “he needs to be gutted” tweak.

[foggy ether]

His horizontal hitbox is large. But his verticals isn't

I know it because I see it whiff all the time

You can just duck or jump

[mossy hill]

i was meant his down special (air)

that hitbox are BS lol i got hit from below and behind

[foggy ether]

His down air special is stupid yes lol

But guess what??

[mossy hill]

thats why the biggest offender for that problem is jack mostly

[foggy ether]

NOBODY complains about it

[mossy hill]

some content creator did complained about that

[foggy ether]

Its like the only truly dishonest hitbox. It goes so below Jack its crazy

Its like Batman dive kick

That right there just shows players don't know whats broken and whats not

Because everytime its something else

Its always “Jack side B”

Or “jack jab so far”

[mossy hill]

jack side B hitbox need lil tone down

cuz it hit ME from behind too sometimes

after i dodge

[foggy ether]

Regular one? I know it can do that

Yeah

[mossy hill]

while his jab prob need tone down the hitbox... cuz I WAS NOWHERE NEAR THE KICK AND STILL GOT HIT

like my jab as velma still several cm away and i got hit lol

[foggy ether]

There's the thing about that…

I don't see ANY complaints about Ayra up special hitting from behind

AND it leads to a TRUE 0tD

[mossy hill]

for the up special arya i didnt notice that much

cuz how i just insta dead already

alsooooo

its impossible to hit laggy arya lol

[foggy ether]

See

Jack gets all the attention

While the ACTUAL broken characters just slide by

Like Harley side air

That move is broken

Its hitbox is dumb

You hit Harley and she instantly input side air

[mossy hill]

yknow who else?

that has BS hitbox

black adam Nair

[foggy ether]

Nobody complains about Harley spamming her gun and side air

[mossy hill]

i do complained bout her gun but if i make comment people prob say skill issue most likely

thats why i just keep quiet

what is her side air?

welp i just found out when stripe hit you and you just got landed to ground he can just shot his gun and stunned you again toward the floor hit u and shot u repeat unti he ran out bullets

steven side air also BS large

[foggy ether]

Her double kick

[mossy hill]

oh the double kick is almost spammable lol

like u kick then if the enemy dodge to other side and u did side air other side it just hit again

[foggy ether]

Exactly

But I guess that's ok to spam that

Its not strong enough EVEN though its a perfe t combo starter

[mossy hill]

welp

its funny how from all uppercut

smith is the only one has the longest hitstun

for uppercut

jason has really weird hitbox on certain attack

[foggy ether]

They gutted Smith because of his loop… and yet, Ayra, Finn, and TnJ all still got there's

[mossy hill]

shaggy is not really problematic now

prob only that his special move is spammable

WW side special also still can hit me from behind 🤣 @foggy ether

but ground one

[languid chasm]

Huey Freeman as a fighter pls

[foggy ether]

That's crazy lol

[mossy hill]

yeah

[foggy ether]

Honestly I think some these hitbox problems are hurtbox problems

[mossy hill]

i found out arya down attack on ground is literally a dodge then hit lol

[foggy ether]

It is, which is cool. But yeah.
Like I don't mind it. But that double up special gotta go. I don't care if it's a “50/50”

I'm pretty sure someone would say that

[mossy hill]

I would say arya need the adjustmnet

On the moves

Most of them nerf

Some buffs

But not huge buff

[foggy ether]

Like, I don't care for giving characters buffs, like do it!
BUT these zero to deaths gotta go

They should ONLY be possible when your opponent has zero dodge meter

Then that's makes sense

You burn out there dodge meter, if you can land it. Fine idc

But to do it right of the bat is crazy

Also to any zero to death should require a entire dodge meter AND your opponent should be burned out

That's my opinion

[mossy hill]

literally velma kit

only work when opp burnt out

oh i wonder when will they nerf joker hitstun or crowbar all together @foggy ether

crowbar damage just too much

WTF

I HIT MY ATTACK

BUT THE GAME DIDNT REGISTERED IT

and the game register only the damage not the knockback

[foggy ether]

Ok TnJ down air and up air hitbox is stupid

His jab is stupid too

They ALL hit from behind and wayyyhy to the side

Yet

NOBODY talks about that

Only “Samurai Jack hitbox is broken”

[mossy hill]

lmao i got hit on their literally belly

for the up air

for down air.. it has janky hitbox

also when will they nerf joker pogo lol

[foggy ether]

Where can I post a pic?

[mossy hill]

#videogames or #off-topic

[foggy ether]

Look at it.

In video games

Its what I'm talking about

I don't see Jacks broken hitboxes

Its not as broken as so many others

Visual proof

@mossy hill

#videogames

[tacit aspen]

for the love of this stupid game, STOP MATCHING PLAT WITH BRONZE

[mossy hill]

@foggy ether it most likely buggy hitbox now

[foggy ether]

That means there’s a ton of buggy of hitboxes

[tender crescent]

If ranked matchmaking isn't going to be rank based and mmr based instead, the game needs to implement per character mmr or make it much stronger in the formula if it does exist. I shouldn't be playing diamond and master players with their most played character in ranked with a level 2 character I've hardly played imo. Really disincentivizes character diversity in ranked and trying to rank up multiple characters at different levels.

[foggy ether]

Yeah. Apparently the game is saying you're a Master already So fight diamond and masters lol

[dire tinsel]

Every time I play a Jack it reminds me how unacceptably this game is balanced. It's ridiculous and they say nothing. Nothing has been acknowledged by the dev team about addressing it. Mid-season patches do not fix imbalance that is happening right now. And if there were the ONLY problem this game has, that's something I could live with. But then I remember how scummy the store is and how badly they need our money. I do not see a bright future for this game if it continues at this pace.

[rancid rampart]

Why are the ranked missions not resetting. This is now the second week in a row without new ranked missions. Every other category resets fine.

I know it’s mostly perk currency but I seem to remember from when I still got them that there were some exp missions in there I’m missing out on lol

[foggy ether]

Look at the photo I took of TnJ down air and Jack up tilt. In #videogames

[dire tinsel]

I did. I assume you’re trying to prove that Jack isn’t as bad as people say?

[mossy hill]

not that

he basicly mean the hitboxes in this game (hurtbox) kinda buggy

[dire tinsel]

That doesn’t seem to be the argument he makes in that channel. But I do agree with that sentiment. Hit/hurt boxes are very jank in this game.

[mossy hill]

like whats the logic

i dodge toward behind them

SOMEHOW THEIR SIDE SPECIAL (jack and WW ) still hit

[foggy ether]

Cool. Yeah isn't. Because what people “say” is that he's broken and top tier.
I admit, I think he's one of the best you can have in 2v2.
But not 1v1.

Also, I'm trying to show that hurtboxes and hitboxes are completely wonky in the game. And that Jack the Samurai shouldn't be the main focus of the next patch. He needs minor tweaks compared to others in the game.

And when I say “main focus” I mean he shouldn't “gutted”

[mossy hill]

like we dont wanna repeat velma situations lol

utterly gutted

[dire tinsel]

Yeah I don’t think he’s insanely broken. He needs slight tweaks to bring him in line. But you’re going to hear about him most because he’s the flavor of the weak character. He just came out and he’s everywhere in Ranked. You can go 3 matches without seeing one. So he gets most of the ire.

[foggy ether]

For real. And Agent Smith. Because of a loop, when yet, other characters like TnJ has one that's even better

[foggy ether]

I totally agree. I'm just trying to remind players. And dispell misinformation. Like “SJ has zero t death true combo! So broken! And “his jab comes out at frame 7! Broken!”

Both false

Stuff like getting spread like wild fire

[mossy hill]

his jab just BS can do 2 whole jab combo thats the reason prob people spread the info

[dire tinsel]

But those slight tweaks will make a world of difference. He gets away with too much. Overall, the game is just too wildly imbalanced and the devs are not acting fast enough for the player base. You can’t drop Ranked and a new character and wait 3 weeks to do anything about it.

[mossy hill]

that 0tD are not 100% true cuz u can still DI it

[foggy ether]

Exactly

Its like saying a fox juggle in smash is a zero to death

[mossy hill]

but the only problem is even u can dodge through it, it just annoying u cant attack them back

[foggy ether]

Up air strings lol

[mossy hill]

cuz armor

[dire tinsel]

But casual players are not as familiar with DI. So I get where they’re coming from.

[mossy hill]

DI is mean dodge right

[foggy ether]

Guess what? The beta had a tutorial and it talked about DI if I remember correctly

[dire tinsel]

I don’t think this game makes it another year at this rate. The devs are too slow, the shop is too greedy, the game hasn’t been close to balanced since it dropped and they have given no reason to trust they are capable of getting the train back on the tracks. I hope I’m wrong and they make some big course corrections. I want them and this game to succeed. But I am broken now, I don’t have the patience I did during the first month. I am giving them one more balance patch.

[mossy hill]

i keep forgetting stripe can just bounce you on the ground with his pistol

[mossy hill]

the only balanced character is velma cuz how bad she was in meta lol

[dire tinsel]

Ha ha! That’s who all the other characters should be balanced around.

Watched WhyDo’s video on the game today and he takes all the words right out of my mouth.

[mossy hill]

its funny the logic for batman dive kick in middle dive kick he can just jumped out from the animation then do another dive kick

DUDE WHAT IS THIS LOGIX

I ALREADY PUT HIS UPPER BODY ON TOP OF BLAST

HE DIDNT GET KOED

MEANWHILE HE MANAGE DO THE SAME TO ME BUT I GOT KOED

[foggy ether]

Lets hope this Beetlejuice isn't sour. Lol
I'm REALLY looking forward to it and I have confidence in this dev team.

[foggy ether]

That's the ONLY thing that literally needs a nerf on Batman.
That Dive kick is busted.
Characters are allowed to have great tools
But that, its like Black Adam clap lol

[mossy hill]

BRUH THIS BATMAN JUST SPAM DIVE KICK NONSTOP

WHAT A TRASH DIAMOND 4 BATMAN

i got easily punished just cuz how small my attack hitboxes

[foggy ether]

I guess only when players experience like you and I have they care.

[mossy hill]

i kinda wished they reveal the patch note rn

[stone ermine]

imo to make it more balanced the ig
is to remove his dodge meter
and car attack can't move direction

[mossy hill]

More to just make his knockback or damage much lower

Instead nerfing his whiff nonstop

[mossy hill]

stupid part of the top blast : batman with half body on the top blast still not KOED

velma only HER HEAD that got onto it : koed

[gritty cipher]

The ONLY Steam achievement i am missing is 100 double knocouts one. No matter where i get those doubles whther it is PVE 2v2 or FFA the counter on the badge is stuck at 72 :/

[mossy hill]

huh interesting

i already completed all of them tho

[gritty cipher]

well it was the only one i didnt do during the beta cuz i play mostly 1v1s

and it didnt progress by 1 since the game's release

[mossy hill]

i only started the game by full release 🤔 might be bugged?

[gritty cipher]

probably

[cyan crag]

I think you're right. I have more issues with hitbox and hurtbox than I have with the character. After playing hours every day since the start of the relaunch, the biggest problem I had with the game came from these. When I dodge a projectile, and it still hit, or when a character hits me when it shouldn't, or I miss an attack that would have changed how the game played out for no reason. This is the biggest the game had at the moment, because it makes any critic we can have of the gameplay biased, since it depends on bugs.

Do a character really needs a nerf or is he just bugged ?

[mossy hill]

@cyan cragi mean rn most of the projectiles that can came back or follow are bugged...

even velma car bugged

which pissed me off alot

velma got really low chance against 90% of roster cuz how dumb the car AI most of the time

and great as we speaking i got DC

by the game

15 more minutes cant play and another -10 RP after -21 FROM FKNG MORTY SPAMMER

[cyan crag]

I mean, I understand. I main Superman. My only defense against projectile is dodging them and the super breath. Also the super armor. Except, dodging them doesn't work because they still hit. Super Breath doesn't work on some of them. And there are some issues with the Super Armor.

[mossy hill]

meanwhile some projectile bugged

like if u manage dodge first one when it came toward you the next time it came back (like velma projectile or her van) its literally bugged out wont hit you

just follow you

[cyan crag]

Like, Super Armor use Dodge Meter, right ? But, between input lag, and the super armor being delayed at random, it just mess with my fight, y'know ? The character already ask you to forsee your opponent's move to land your hit properly, so, if there's issues with that, you're defensless against some character

And, yes, Morty is a pain.

[mossy hill]

its like most of the projectile character (not counting morty cuz he is BS anyway) arent meta

[cyan crag]

Can you imagine I see Morty players complain about others characters being able to counter their projectiles ? 💀

"Nerf them, it's unfair, I can't spam"

[mossy hill]

as if morty spam already BS

idfk how this guy manage to stall until his 2nd god damn car off cooldown

i felt his weight isnt lighter enough

[wide junco]

nerf arya, her ground dlight is op af

[deep mantle]

i feel like reindog needs a buff, i really enjoy his combos and the things you can string together but he doesnt have anything in his kit to kill at a high percent, i feel like most characters in this game have a basic move that if you hit at 120+ is a ringout, except with reindog i fight people up to 200+ and the only move that will ring them out is his neutral attack projectile but it is the slowest and easiest move to punish. Bad take or do i just need to get good?

[foggy ether]

THIS. I've been TRYING to state this but so many go on a surface level rant.
Hurtboxes can play just a big a role as Hitboxes can.
And both are wonky rn.
Jack does NOT have broken hitboxes. As you see there in #videogames his up tilt for example doesn't even hit. While TnJ, in the same situation but I'm farther away, STILL hits with his dair.

[mossy hill]

i wonder how they will nerf WW

like

her hitbox is gigantic

her knockback too

her mobility is great

[foggy ether]

Yeah knockback plays a role too.
Think about how Finn little kick, I think his neutral air attack, knocks you WAY up. So you can PERFECTLY follow up with a up b backpack attack.

[mossy hill]

and what even worst

entire special attack kit has tons shield

[gentle zinc]

How's the Velma grind going?

[mossy hill]

stressfull

+5-+12

then all i lost

-15 and -25

FFS

[gentle zinc]

[mossy hill]

and i just face this IG i just say fk it here my spam up attack

and it was hilarious

[gentle zinc]

I wanna try her out and see how long it takes for me to learn her or give up

[mossy hill]

i can gave u several tech with her kinda

she has some moves its not always 100% true

GREAT I +18 and just lost 18

i wish velma down tilt has big hitstun

[mossy hill]

i dont want dealt with this stripe i just went passive alot 🤣 (as velma ofc) and +6 for the win...