game-feedback

[autumn estuary]

If I find the reason you died extremely funny or stupid I WILL stop midmatch to tb uwu

[drowsy bough]

What I do mind is when the matchmaking puts me against a masters player who's playing a total bum character like Finn or Rick and I'm not having any fun at all and they start salt emoting and shaggy cry emoting and taunting. Like dude, you get your freelo, the matchmaker sucks

[foggy ether]

And dashdancing is kinda like a stress relief or something for me.
Like “ok I got first stock can't mess this up lets go lets go!”

[gentle zinc]

I just like how it looks on some chara

[sharp fjord]

dude, I play Rick... that's a fact you can test whenever you want

[foggy ether]

That too

[drowsy bough]

I'll believe it when I actually have fun playing against that character

[gentle zinc]

Get him grumpy

[drowsy bough]

Hitboxes are stupid, every move puts you in 10 years of hitlag, he has 9 trillion projectiles

And the reindog transformation is the stupidest thing in the game

This game is not Overwatch, it doesn't need hard CC

[gentle zinc]

That's easy to avoid though

[foggy ether]

This is the thing that my mortal self succumbs to
When a Finn teabags after 0tD I be steaming ngl

[sharp fjord]

dude, there's a big area and it's pretty obvious... if you turned into raindog it's on you

[gentle zinc]

Yeah 😂😂 I go stare at the microwave while food warms up after those

[sharp fjord]

that move takes 5 seconds to activate

[drowsy bough]

No, it isn't. He can throw it out and hit you with the jab which is the size of Atlanta, then combo into the portal, teleport you, him, and the projectile through it, and he's giant and you get to do nothing

[autumn estuary]

rick be like: okay imma do a basic jab combo because it's the only thing in my kit when i'm on cooldown let's go maybe a sair now and then and another basic jab combo

[foggy ether]

Well…. I argue Taz chicken is more stupid

[drowsy bough]

I have gotten full chickened by Taz 3 times max since the full release

That character SUCKS

[foggy ether]

I honestly don't know how Taz flys under the radar lol
Like… he is the most irritating character in whole game lol.
It doesn't help that his voice genuinely makes me laugh so I'm hating on him and laughing at same time as I die from his stupid hitboxes and 0tD lol

[sharp fjord]

and he has so many moves with little to no counterplay

if he chases you as a tornado you're forced to run for your life because very feel things can stop it

same for that cloud move

or whatever it's called

[gentle zinc]

^

[autumn estuary]

i can stop it sometimes when i'm not having a skill issue c:

[sharp fjord]

when taz starts with that cloud we're just "well, I guess I'll wait then"

[gentle zinc]

You can't touch those at all

Don't hug the walls against him 😂

[drowsy bough]

jason being able to infinitely ledgecamp is making me like

genuinely angry

[gentle zinc]

Called Dogpile I think

[stuck cave]

Playing against Taz as a character with no projectile is uh, not very fun

[drowsy bough]

not even salty like genuinely my blood pressure rises when I fight this bum character

[gentle zinc]

😂

[foggy ether]

Bro… his dumb moves actually have absurd hotboxes.
Like, I'm putting him at top of “ABSURD HITBOXES” list for me.
Its so bad that you will 9/10 clank with anything he throws… even when you “punish” him

[gentle zinc]

Taz?

[foggy ether]

Yeah Dogpile is dumb

[autumn estuary]

yall people try playing finn yet taz won't be as big of an issue

[sharp fjord]

and that taz bite that hits 2 meters away from him

[foggy ether]

Dogpile, Just LITERALLY a GIANT hitbox 😂

Like guys. Common

[sharp fjord]

and let's not forget that overpowered dash attack

so much knockback

crosses the entire map in 1 second

[foggy ether]

And then he has a perk that's like “OH if that giant hitbox wasn't big enough for ya, have your teammate jump in and it makes it BIGGER” 😂

[gentle zinc]

I like that one

[foggy ether]

He kills early, giant hitboxes, and has actual combo game. Taz is crazy

[gentle zinc]

I love Taz but can't play him well. Since rerelease I've not touched him but I wanna play him again he just feels like a cheese char to me

[drowsy bough]

same issue as the gremlins and Harley
Dies at 60%

[gentle zinc]

Anybody ever lost to a Taz that did 53 dam because all he did was spam Torndao

[drowsy bough]

he's better than both of them though

[sharp fjord]

I wish Harleys would die at 60...

Harleys die at 140... absurd

[drowsy bough]

if you're not killing a Harley at 60, it's on you

[foggy ether]

Oh yeah, if your an assassin you may have good combo game but against Taz your done done if he hit you

[drowsy bough]

lightest character in the game

[sharp fjord]

says the person who can't avoid being turned into reindog

anyway

[drowsy bough]

not a guy, don't call me one thanks

[sharp fjord]

there

[drowsy bough]

cheers

[gentle zinc]

Agent Smith main

Pretty balanced char

[sharp fjord]

kinda

except for some busted hitboxes

like side special hitting people touching his feet

[gentle zinc]

Yeah...

Think I clipped that

[sturdy dagger]

Characters with a good poke can literally stop it too.

[turbid rover]

It loses to projectiles

And some fairs

[stuck cave]

Yeah I suppose I really should have said "good range" rather than a projectile

[foggy ether]

I play characters that have none lol

[turbid rover]

We already disproved this with Jason

He can tank dog pile

[stuck cave]

Jason just can't do anything because his "disjoints" have big meaty hurtboxes 🫠

[drowsy bough]

yeah that's weird

[turbid rover]

He can literally mash through dogpile

[drowsy bough]

he's fine in every way the game's hitboxes in general are just jank

[stuck cave]

Oh I suppose rage might work tho. I should try that next time

[sturdy dagger]

Yes Jason's hurt box is crazy

[drowsy bough]

Until you're playing against him, where every part of his body is invincible :)

[foggy ether]

Well you said “projectiles” lol Jason has none

[turbid rover]

Okay but you can stop dog pile so what’s the problem?

😭

[sharp fjord]

but jason's armor should work to stop dogpile or tornado

[turbid rover]

This guy might be a genius

[foggy ether]

Everything clanks lol still stupid move

[sturdy dagger]

Armor break deletes it apparently, I never use Jason's armor...... Ever

[turbid rover]

You should it’s good ghost pressure

Makes ppl scared to press buttons

[sharp fjord]

jason's armor is absurdly great for edgeguarding

[stuck cave]

You should be using it, it's very good. Characters with good armor breaks are a problem but you can predict them if you know about them

Except Marvin. Just don't bother with it against Marvin except for edgeguards lol

[sharp fjord]

jason edgeguarding with armor and the axe is scary

[gentle zinc]

Armor + bed = dead wabbits that like spamming up air

On the edge

[stuck cave]

Armor + dair is pretty cracked too

I get a good number of ringouts just from popping rage and then hitting a dair to spike them. Very satisfying

[sturdy dagger]

Axe is scary without armor, I swear the hitbox extends a foot away from the blade and under him.... somehow

[stuck cave]

It’s definitely Jason’s meatiest hitbox. Unlike his other moves its deceptively big lol

[gentle zinc]

Exciting to see people learn to respect him

[drowsy bough]

Unironic feedback
Remove Bugs Bunny from the game

Dead serious

Either that or either gut his zoning or the fact he can just be in your face

He shouldn't have both

[sturdy dagger]

No.🐰

[drowsy bough]

Yes.

[gentle zinc]

He can be both. Most characters can do two things

[sturdy dagger]

I would like for the Wabbit Moveset to change because he's literally doing Wile's bit. But that's likely not happening either.

[sturdy dagger]

Yes. No.

[drowsy bough]

He shouldn't be best-in-class for both of them

Marvin's the best zoner, Batman's the best rushdown

Why is Bugs better at both of them

[sturdy dagger]

He doesn't have both.

[drowsy bough]

Yes, he does.

He has the most stupid nair in the game and the best projectiles as well

I'm not even mentioning the rabbit hole because it's gonna make me have an aneurysm if I do

And he can infinitely ledgecamp with a disjointed hitbox that's bigger than most character's entire hurtboxes

[gentle zinc]

He can't be both if those two are the best, but just about everything he has goes on cooldown so you gotta just get him while those are down or not fall for the bot playstyle

[drowsy bough]

Should rephrase and say that they're the best at that if bugs didn't exist

[sturdy dagger]

Everything is very animated and have a bit of start up.

Play bugs and just start jumping in peoples face raw and see how far you get

[drowsy bough]

I did, and I hit top 100 in the beta 👁️ 👁️

I used to main that character

[sturdy dagger]

Not the beta.

[gentle zinc]

I get what you meant though but he's not that bad to.deal with THOUGH that will always vary between character and knowledge and skill. As Jason he's not that bad and T&J it feels like a 50/50

[drowsy bough]

That's all every single bugs does on ranked

[gentle zinc]

Don't let him use safe, don't let him use rocket. Do.your best to not let him do those and you should be fine

[sturdy dagger]

No complaints on Joker?

[gentle zinc]

And don't get homerunned too many times

[drowsy bough]

Joker's better than bugs in all of these aspects
That doesn't make bugs any less annoying

[drowsy bough]

yeah, lemme just break his controller so he can't use the best parts of his kit

c'mon now

those moves are free, you literally can't deny them at all

[turbid rover]

This isn’t possible unless ur playing maybe Superman or Ww

No way ur gonna stop a bugs from using safe and rocket

[gentle zinc]

Depends. When I'm Jason I just grab him out of them.

[turbid rover]

Wait we were supposed to 1v1 I forgot

You wanna play?

[sturdy dagger]

I wish kiss was a forward moving projectile, and they gave him an momentum shifting attack (like Mario Cape) instead of safe.

And threw the rocket away.

But we have the Bugs we got.

[gentle zinc]

I did too but I'm not home it's anime matsuri weekend

[turbid rover]

Bruh

When can you play

[gentle zinc]

Probably going home tomorrow

[turbid rover]

Alr

[drowsy bough]

I wouldn't hate half the cast if smith didn't feel like wet paper towel compared to every top-tier

[turbid rover]

Rocket is one of the best tools in his kit

[gentle zinc]

Anyway long as he's using the forward rocket and I'm close enough I grab him with up special out of it, and if he drops to.use safe I grab him before he kicks it then try to break the safe or.kill him before he uses it.

If he uses up.rocket I just let him

[turbid rover]

You can create 50/50’s with rocket

It’s silly

[drowsy bough]

He has like..nothing on Arya, Bugs, Batman or Finn

The only conventionally "good" character he's good into is Jack

[turbid rover]

Rocket then safe is a free set up

And you can use it as dodge bait

So on so on

[drowsy bough]

Smith doesn't need changes, the toptiers just feel so awful to play into

[sturdy dagger]

I don't hate it for gameplay reasons, it's because it's out of his character.

[gentle zinc]

That's any fighting game though

[sturdy dagger]

Like the damn sandwich

[turbid rover]

It’s a good design a Toony character pulling out a rocket and riding it sounds in character ngl

And toony characters ride rockets all the time

So it makes sense tbh

[gentle zinc]

^

[drowsy bough]

ehhhhhhhhhhh

[turbid rover]

Most of it is rage bait

[drowsy bough]

I play smash seriously

Most toptiers don't feel super ick to play into

[drowsy bough]

most

[turbid rover]

Pikachu? Rob?

Stop talking

[sturdy dagger]

Bye that logic Garfield should pull a Giant rocket out of his ass too. 🙃

I know you don't care about it being inconsistent because it's just a video game function to you.

[gentle zinc]

I hate playing into DC characters and Finn

[turbid rover]

If the writers wanted to make him ride a rocket they could

😭

And it would be in character

[sturdy dagger]

But the writers generally didn't though.

[gentle zinc]

Any toon character especially looney tunes could do it and it be in character

Except granny

[turbid rover]

In the cover for Astrocat Garfield is on a rocket

👍

[sturdy dagger]

Bugs usually plays off of the antagonist.

[drowsy bough]

tis why i said most

[gentle zinc]

[drowsy bough]

Pikachu isn't that bad tbf

rob makes me wanna pull my skin off

[turbid rover]

Lies

[gentle zinc]

[drowsy bough]

does depend on who you play tbf

[turbid rover]

We need a 1v1 section of this server

I’m gonna lose my mind

[sturdy dagger]

It's a cover for a compilation, not a specific action of Garfield as a character.

[turbid rover]

It doesn’t matter he’s still on a rocket it’s in character

[sturdy dagger]

No. I'm sorry you can't comprehend strip compilation gag covers.

[turbid rover]

like I said toon character can literally do whatever they want and it would be in character

Literally anything

[drowsy bough]

oh yeah just gonna say

If finn does not get GUTTED in the midseason patch

I'm uninstalling faster than anything

[eternal moon]

No one wants season 1 gems for storers rewards

[drowsy bough]

The ToD makes me wanna break things

[sturdy dagger]

Character IS behavior. You wouldn't be fine Marcelline having magical tickle fingers attacks.

[turbid rover]

I would honestly be down for it as long as it looks cool

[sturdy dagger]

Just admit you don't care about the characters and just want functions

[drowsy bough]

Make him have to release charged attacks 1 second after they hit full charge or if he's not moving, remove the entire perk where his backpack does more knockback the more coins he has, nerf BMO-chop's knockback by like 40% and make his hitboxes so much smaller

[sturdy dagger]

No BMO I'll have a bigger hitbox 🫠

......no auto correct I want "will"

[drowsy bough]

if they buff him again I'm uninstalling and filing a suit /gen

[sturdy dagger]

I hope they do some balance work, but don't be surprised if they do literally nothing about him.

[drowsy bough]

Top 1 player is a finn main and he has the highest winrate
If they don't do anything about him, the dev team is deaf and blind

They almost definitely will, but still

[sturdy dagger]

We'll see 👀

[turbid rover]

I def care more about their kit than the character lmao

[sharp fjord]

I think it's not that finn anymore

[drowsy bough]

It is

[sharp fjord]

I checked yesterday and someone else took Flacoco's place

[drowsy bough]

checked today, he got back

[mossy hill]

dont gutted him... thats too much i prob say harsh nerf on his backpack minimun

like we dont want repeat velma experience

gutted the character

they arent usable at all

[versed latch]

Buff Jason

[lime pawn]

Nerf Jason

[drowsy bough]

yeah, we do

[versed latch]

He’s one of the worst characters and is combo food

[mossy hill]

against some light weight character he is annoying

side side then side special

BRO how tf u get out form that

[mossy hill]

sure thing you are the worst player that wanted that happend

[lime pawn]

...
Nerf Jason

[drowsy bough]

he kills half the cast at 65%

from midstage

[lime pawn]

(I dunno, just said it for funy)

[drowsy bough]

maybe don't nerf him but revert the buffs

that's swag the character that never dies gets to kill you for free and also gets off ledge for free and kills you for it

jason definitely needs buffs yeah

[foggy ether]

Nah Jason is fine. Common you can’t complain bout Jason bro

[mossy hill]

they prob could tone down the knockback

or damage

[foggy ether]

It’s like saying ganondorf needs a nerf because he can kill at “60”

[mossy hill]

instead whiff or stuff like this

[mossy hill]

but yeah he is slowest character in game too

[drowsy bough]

yeah that's the thing

is ganondorf dies

[foggy ether]

And huge

[mossy hill]

we should compare ganondorf with IG lol

[drowsy bough]

no, we shouldn't

we shouldn't compare any smash characters to MVS ones

because they're wildly different games

[foggy ether]

We can compare though for understanding

[mossy hill]

also

why tf my matches suddenly fileld with TNJ

is it cuz top 1 master rn is tnj

[versed latch]

No Jason is killing at 60

Besides if you fighting gizmo and you hit him with a fully charged rage bed

[foggy ether]

Fr

[drowsy bough]

Biggest cap of all time 😭

[drowsy bough]

you still shouldn't

the games are wildly different meta and gameplay wise

[eternal burrow]

Jason needs a hard buff because really slow and but he can kill but but is combo food for ever character

[versed latch]

No good player will lose to a Jason

[sturdy dagger]

I mostly just want a hurtbox reduction. And maybe some native armor.

[foggy ether]

Nah but you can though. It’s fine

But anyways

Jason don’t need a nerf lol

He the last character that needs a nerf

He shouldn’t even be in the conversation lol

[mossy hill]

i kinda wish they fix taz

[foggy ether]

There’s so many other issues

[mossy hill]

just rework most oppresive moveset he has

taz has most oppresive moveset

agaisnt mele user

esp fist

[foggy ether]

Yeah like Taz should be in the conversation about Nerfs

Finn too

[foggy ether]

Like, this what Jason need

Because there is literally unfair hurtbox issues going on with him

And he don’t even feel like a tank

He just hit like one

But he gets hit like rag doll

[versed latch]

Why is game feedback one of the most inactive channels

Like this is what most people join the server for

[sturdy dagger]

People hurl insults a PFG.

[foggy ether]

This

Because “feedback” became hurling slurs and slander to the devs

All you see is “delete” this or that and no real thought process

[sturdy dagger]

Tbh you can't actually post a slur

[foggy ether]

You know what I mean

[versed latch]

I dare you to do it

[foggy ether]

Because what I’ve seen it’s pretty bad

[sturdy dagger]

Cis lol

Elon is dumb AF

[foggy ether]

I mean there’s been worse said here in feedback directly to devs

[sturdy dagger]

Yeah

[foggy ether]

Nothing

Did nothing

[tiny lily]

The one i posted at least has real thought process

It was about deleting the perk that allows parries to reflect projectiles, and giving it to everyone as base instead, because parrying projectiles in game without that perk requires a bit of skill and only punishes you instead of rewarding you

[foggy ether]

Yeah like, even though we may not agree on stuff, THATS more appropriate for this

Like actual thoughts

[versed latch]

I also noticed they removed a bunch of beta perks that are unobtainable now

I occasionally see people with them

[foggy ether]

Even though you said delete I wasn’t referring g to you btw

[mossy hill]

wait what

the perk still usable???

[versed latch]

Like signatures and stuff

[foggy ether]

That’s crazy

[versed latch]

I’ve seen a Rick one and iron giant one

[mossy hill]

oh u meant the 1 iron giant perk got removed?

i still have it lol

[versed latch]

Useable but not obtainable

[mossy hill]

as long as u didnt swapped that perk

[mossy hill]

NOTE: iron giant perk is unuseable

cuz u cant change into that

if u still has it on your perk slot u will keep it

yep

basicly that

if u swap its bye bye forever cuz u cant change into that perk until they brought back

and for rick... which one??

[versed latch]

Something something meeseeks hitstun

[mossy hill]

didnt they just added that

lol

[versed latch]

🤷

[mossy hill]

they added that several patches ago

[versed latch]

I don’t check perks for all the characters

It seems like a bad signature so idk

[mossy hill]

Rick

“Bit Of A Stickler Meeseeks” Signature Perk Returns!
Perk effect: “Rick’s Meeseeks deal extra damage to fighters that are already in hitstun.”
Ground Side Attack 1
– Hitbox active duration reduced 1 frame
Air/Ground Side Special

• Addressed several issues with portals where fighters could be trapped indefinitely or teleported off-screen without ringing out
  Rick now takes priority traversing through portals if he attempts to spawn a second portal while another fighter is entering the first portal

@versed latch

this at 1.05

[versed latch]

I played as Rick for a little while in season one and got to about 70 wins till I switched back to my main

So I thought it was like the big iron one

[mossy hill]

yeah for iron giant

its unusable

cuz u cant swapped into it unless u already have built in perk with it

which i do

i will show in #videogames

[versed latch]

Well I knew it existed before because I played beta and used to play as iron giant so I thought it was like the Rick one for a while

[mossy hill]

for iron giant it was like pretty recent changes

they took away his 3rd perk cuz they gonna rework his neutral special (the one make armor)

[upper wing]

game really paired me with a gold player and put us against two bronzes (im master), what is this matchmaking 💀

[versed latch]

Yes

[mossy hill]

LMAO i was duoing with my friend on gold and guess what we face? master and gold

[upper wing]

yeah matchmaking is wild

it rlly put me against a bronze smith and shaggy

[mossy hill]

ok i practice the tnj combo

wtf

side side side then up, neutral special (aim down), then up again , air down, up again and up special

that all for 51 damage

[patent halo]

Fix damage number totals at the end of the match to include projectile damage

[dire tinsel]

Man Void is already playing that LoL game on stream and player base on Steam has dropped to in the 4k range. I don't know about the future here. The devs need to do SOMETHING big if they don't want this thing to die.

Honestly, where are the devs? Where is the communication? Where is the "we hear you and we're in the process of fixing X and Y"?

[wide junco]

nerf reindog, i cant get close to them, unlimited projects and has a true loop combo

[foggy ether]

I mean Ajax did tweet this awesome post

[sharp fjord]

mvs account?

I wanna read it

[foggy ether]

On twitter

1 sec

[lime pawn]

Just one? 😢

[foggy ether]

My bad lol

Was in middle of matches

[lime pawn]

It's all good, it was pretty funny

[foggy ether]

[sharp fjord]

what account was it published? I tried to find it on mvs and his own account

[foggy ether]

Yeah its his own account

Pretty popular

[sharp fjord]

didn't find anything

I don't know how to use that tho, tbf

I don't have an account

[foggy ether]

Black Adam clap need nerf
Finn needs nerfs
Tom n Jerry paddle loop nerf
Jack side b nerf
Taz nerfs
So much bro

Batman dive kick

Nerf

[foggy ether]

Uh…. Taz dogpile lasts way too long with comp

[tiny lily]

Mvs has been at 4k for a longer while
And its not rare for a fighting game to have these numbers. Its normal
However i still fear wb pulls the plug early on the game

[sharp fjord]

also keep in mind those 4k are only steam

apparently it does better on consoles

[foggy ether]

It was a long tweet about how they read all our stuff and hears the community and to have hope because anything is possible and it’s possible for anyone to get in the game and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise stuff like that

I think I’ve decided that 2v2 is more fun than 1v1.

At least right now

2v2 is so crazy and your always looking on how to capitalize on disadvantage to get a ring out and looking where to follow up and combos extend to other characters so in my opinion it’s more exciting

1v1 there’s no one to save you from an Iron giant jab lock or Finn zero to death for example, and that’s just one thing

So that’s my feedback PFG

I think I enjoy playing 2v2 more than 1v1 right now

Regardless how chaotic it can get

That’s part of the fun

Not saying that I like stage hazards btw lol I think there cool but I’m glad there not in ranked

[urban pasture]

still the worst nonsense matchmaking ever. bronce, gold, plat, dia in one lobby. instead of waiting 10 more secs or 30 t find an actual lobby with correct rank differences like 1 full league max
its ridiculous how hard it is to find a balanced match, one of 5 sets if you are lucky

[balmy bloom]

NERF FINN TO THE GROUUUUNNDDD

This is the definition of a deserved nerf

This is what should be prioritised

[mossy hill]

fix velma van... how tf the van can be dodge but never caught them after

like her projectile

like WHATS THE POINT IF IT CAN CHASE BUT WONT GRABBED THE ENEMY THAT MANAGE TO DODGE THEM

[tiny lily]

The game has issues with stuff like this

Either attacks you dodge cant end up hitting you after

Or

You dodge the attack and some of these still catch you even if you dodged properly

Its inconsistent as hell

I expected the van to work in the way that it can catch you still, or regardless if you Dodge or not

Ig it doesnt

[mossy hill]

also sometimes the duration of the van can be SOO LONG if u got hitstunned @tiny lily which so incosistent

can they just hit steven up attack

both of them

its so annoying they can just spam it

[foggy ether]

I thinks its useless that the van can just literally fall of the edge right after spawn lol

[mossy hill]

TRUE LOL

they should buff the van

like bring back OG movement

it able to double jump lol

cuz the current AI is DUMB AF

[foggy ether]

Yeah the van ai is way too dumb lol
I was like
“I collected all this evidence just for you to drive off the stage?!” lol

[teal hemlock]

For the love of god please nerf samurai jack i cannot stand this stupid crap anymore every time i go on ranked mode every 3 matches im fighting jack and he just jabfishes me across the map and then side specials me into the zone or neutral special or he just camps the edge and edge gaurds me im beyond pissed off right now i have zero defense

[stuck sable]

ADD A COOLDOWN TO JACK'S FORWARD SPECIAL. IT IS EXTREMELY SPAMMABLE

[fair storm]

pls make that the servers can handle stevens clone

[clever gust]

How is Jack's side special still not nerfed? I quit playing this game like 3 days after he got released. His reach is also too long, on that note (specifically the kick jab). Can't believe the latest patch is just more unnecessary Iron Giant nerfs.

[wary fox]

please remove the cannot matchmake penalty for leaving in casual mode

i keep getting punished for disconnecting cause of the servers

[split robin]

Can’t wait for Beetlejuice 🤘🏻

[honest forge]

Will hit box adjustments ever be made for the cast or are the current ones we have intended? It was like this in the beta but has gotten 10x worse with characters that have moves that are hitting you without even touching you or you dodging a move and still getting hit by it. Hitbox adjustments in general would bring alot of balancing to the game. I’m just assuming this is how it was intended to be at this point to where characters can hit you with a forward jab while your behind them or with a down spike while your above them

[split robin]

What can we do against people who queue for FFA and stay Idle for the match. Kills the spirit of the game…

[lofty beacon]

They probably just doing it for the daily’s/weekly’s

Plus it’s FFA, and a free point for you or your opponents

[stuck sable]

I just got matched against a diamond 1 Arya and a Master 2 Black Adam while I a Plat 2 Harley got a Bronze Jake.

Who in the hell designed this idiotic ranked system. What is wrong with you.

[patent halo]

they need to remove FFA quests

I'm guilty of going afk because I hate that mode but there's a quest

[stone ermine]

Imagine being punishef because your opponent leaves ranked in just their first win

Crazy

[patent halo]

or maybe they can re-implement games vs AI so that people can choose whether or not they want to play vs people

[remote dirge]

Wait??? You lose RP from that? @stone ermine

[split robin]

That might be a good option to improve the Mode overall

[patent halo]

I personally hate that they force you to play bots when you lose. And that you can't play bots when u just wanna finish quests. Isn't the point of daily missions so that people LOG IN? Why does it matter how we choose to play the game?

[stone ermine]

Yes

[patent halo]

what really pisses me off too is that the AI they use in pvp matches is really bad. Like the AI's in rifts are much better programmed and are more fun to play against. Yet they force you to play these really derpy bots when u lose in pvp. And it's like a slap in the face

[patent halo]

I always gain RP when my opponent DC's tho? It puts me back into lobby and says "partial RP reset Garnet +20rp"

[remote dirge]

After you won?

Hes talking about when he lost the first set

[remote dirge]

Leak his user. He’s obviously exploiting ranked

[patent halo]

ya after I won the first set

[split robin]

Guys, gotta work on Smith’s hurtboxes in the Jason matchup. Getting caught when I am well behind the side special and behind/below the Smith air side special when it makes no sense and it’s clearly, visibly because of Jason’s big frame interaction with the hurtbox.

I don’t feel that a nerf is necessary, just need to tighten up the interactions and where the move is active, cuz nothing on Smith’s body other than maybe his head and arm should be active. Definitely not when chasing up and the only spot that touches is his shoes…

[gentle zinc]

Who do you play?

[gentle zinc]

Facts

[cinder sable]

At the beginning of the match show everyone’s rank not after the match. I wanna know exactly how bad the match making is from the start

[clever gust]

I play a lot of the cast, Garnet and Jake are my most played. I don't really have a dedicated main, and I won pretty much every Jack game I played unless it was a mirror match. Why is my main even relevant to this complaint? He's overtuned, it doesn't matter who I play.

[stuck sable]

I HATE REMATCHING, I HATE THIS GAME

[gentle zinc]

Some characters have a harder time against him is why but he is overtuned. Playing Jason against him is some of the most anti fun I've had, but once I learned to parry the side special he's not so bad

[clever gust]

having to parry that side special should never be the answer. That limits his "fairness" to high level play and scares new players away. The fact that it not only is as fast as it is, but has no cooldown, has an enhanced version, and can be AIMED, are all problems

[stuck sable]

Best out of 3 is THE WORST.
THE WORST

I HATE IT SO MUCH

[clever gust]

I have 3 other friends who also quit the game shortly after his release, it's not just me

[stuck sable]

I also have friend who stopped playing because of unfair ranked is now

2 actually

[clever gust]

the way ranked is set up is an absolute joke. there should be a global rank increase for every character as you go up, not "get this character to gold from playing 100+ games" and you have to keep repeating this for every individual character

to be more clear, i'm saying that once you reach gold with one character, maybe make silver the starting point for every other character

[stuck sable]

I HATE THIS

THIS GAME IS BAD

AWFUL

EVIL

[gentle zinc]

Having to use a mechanic the game provides for defense I don't think limits fairness. It's a super telegraphed move that screams "parry me" and you're not supposed to spam moves like that in a fighting game and it's the easiest move to parry. You're supposed to have skill and those who don't will just lose to it. They should still nerf it and put it on a cooldown or something but even after that people will still complain and the answer will always be parry it

They put it there for people that don't like spammers to have an option and it works

[clever gust]

no, if it gets a cooldown, the answer will be to punish them when it's on cooldown

just like taz's stuff

this is a party game, not everyone is good at parrying. people will quit the game if the only answer is to parry, i don't care if you think it's fair on your end

[gentle zinc]

Not really a punish just because it's on cooldown.

It's can be a party game but it also has a competitive scene and nobody making a fighting game is gonna cater to the people that have not even enough skill to press a button to parry its not hard for that move specifically

[clever gust]

you do realize they need people to play the game to keep it running, right? the competitive scene consists of maybe 1000 players tops, realistically speaking. I was in the top 500 players back when it was last released, and I consider myself to be terrible at fighting games

[gentle zinc]

Yes but when the game has something that is beating you. Your next step as a player is to say "how do I beat that?" Then someone says you parry it. Practice it when they spam it you'll learn the timing and you'll be happy. Not go whine to the devs I'm not good this thing is hard to beat nerf it

[stuck sable]

Go away, you're being ridiculous

[cyan patrol]

The ranks are character based so you're top 500 for one character. That's way more than 1000 players tops for competative

[gentle zinc]

Because I'm playing Jason into it and the only other character that's gonna get hit by it more is an IG and it's not hard to parry them with it

[gentle zinc]

You're just here whining go back to that

[clever gust]

okay so, you are just backpedaling now to saying that everyone should be part of the competitive scene. I'm telling you that most players cannot, will not, and don't care to practice parrying. And I'm telling you that they need players to want to play the game, at all levels of competitiveness, to keep it running. And I'm telling you that Jack's Side Special is overtuned.

[gentle zinc]

I think they meant previously when it was just stats on a site

[clever gust]

before jack's release, many people thought this game was fun, whether they were good at parrying or bad at parrying

smith didn't ruin the game, jason didn't ruin the game, joker didn't ruin the game. it's jack

[stuck sable]

You're actively trying to destroy the game for everyone else with your bias

[clever gust]

and the developers have been told this by MANY people, and when I check the patch notes from a week ago and see that not only was he not nerfed, but he wasn't touched AT ALL, I lose faith in the company

do you understand now?

[gentle zinc]

Yeah I know but fighting games are about learning and not babying unskilled people that want their way. No fighting game does and each one has what is called a "noob killer" what I'm saying is even after they nerf the move because they definitely will and I already said I agree they should. It's still going to be an issue for people after that

[warm schooner]

I’m
Convinced they don’t play their own game

[clever gust]

this is what I believe as well, Sun

[cyan patrol]

Lol jack is a problem but that's not what ruined the game. It's the bad hitboxes, the bad matchmaking, the constant bugs and lag issues

[clever gust]

well, yes. But Jack makes those issues stand out significantly

[warm schooner]

I want to see the hit boxes in training mode

[gentle zinc]

That is a you problem and they're going to take their time and not respond to immediate backlash we still have the mid-season balance patch

[gentle zinc]

I doubt they listen to specifically me though it would be cool

[warm schooner]

Jack is the least of this games issues

[mental jetty]

Remove townsville

[gentle zinc]

You mean Mojo

[clever gust]

keep telling yourself it's a me problem, I told you that it's not just me (3 of my friends have also dropped the game since his release, I say again) and if you wanna ignore that statement, I don't really care. Let me know when an actual developer feels like responding and I will debate on this further

[cyan patrol]

Their balance patches are bandaids in place of actually fixing hit and hurt boxes because they seem unable or unwilling to do the latter

[stuck sable]

WHY if you agree that the moves is too powerful and WILL be nerfed, WHY the hell are you herfe arguing with people saying it is broken and needs to be nerfed., You're ust bein g an annoying contrarian

[gentle zinc]

Lot of Jason players stopped because of Jack too but they're gonna have to get over it because even after the nerf he's still going to be good

[gentle zinc]

I said if you don't like him you're gonna have to learn to parry unless you're just gonna eat it everytime he uses it. Even if it's on cooldown it's still going to annoy you

[lofty beacon]

I’m convinced Jacks jab beats majority of the roster. Aint no why Labrons, Marvin’s, Tom’s, Garnet, Jake, and Agent Smith all have the same start up frame for their jabs and lose to Jacks

[gentle zinc]

Yeah they might nerf that too

[cyan patrol]

And because pfg 'full released' the game in such an awful state we saw the casual player base die within a couple months. And as that casual base quits it leaves the remaining casuals fighting hardcore players more and more which makes even more casuals quit. And that's why the game has lost 95% of the full release population

[clever gust]

just parry the jabs, easy

[lofty beacon]

The parry don’t even be working most of the time

[gentle zinc]

You could

[clever gust]

parry everything actually

[gentle zinc]

You could 😂

[cyan patrol]

And barring some miracle they aren't coming back. So the current game state is more or less it

[clever gust]

in fact, i think every attack in the game should 1 shot and if you don't parry you just lose instantly

[lofty beacon]

They might as well give us a block button instead 💀

[gentle zinc]

Tbh

[stuck sable]

That is BS, he should not be the only character in the game with a move that can ONLY be countered by parrying. That is broken

[patent halo]

wtf are u guys even talking about? jack's side special?

[gentle zinc]

He's not but its the one you should parry most you can just jump over it

[gentle zinc]

They're triggered because I said just parry SJ's side special

We all knows it's gonna get nerfed but that won't stop them being mad about getting hit with it

So parry it

[clever gust]

no, I'm triggered because you're responding like you're trying to respond like you're one of the developers that don't actually play their own game in a feedback channel

and because you're ignoring every counterargument i throw at you

[stuck sable]

You can't jump over it because of it sbroken large hitbox extending far above it

AND behind him

[gentle zinc]

I do as Jason so you definitely can

[patent halo]

garnet's down smash deals with SJ' side special. Just jump over him deals with it. Punish him when he whiffs (that's its major weakness)

[cyan patrol]

Parry isn't an answer. It's far far harder to successfully parry than it is to use attacks so even if you were successful 1/3 the time, which you won't be, you're still losing

[clever gust]

people are quitting the game because of jack, this is a fact. you are saying that people need to adapt. They don't need to adapt, they can just drop the game and never look back

[patent halo]

i mush rather deal with SJ than shaggy's armor kick

[gentle zinc]

Your counter arguments are "but the casuals!" Which so nothing for me because casuals are gonna play almost regardless

[patent halo]

I think SJ is a great addition to the game

[gentle zinc]

Once Jack is nerfed more will.stop using him and less frustration around him will exist

[lofty beacon]

Facts

[clever gust]

a lot of casuals have already dropped the game, though???

[gentle zinc]

Yeah he got a lot.of people.to play again

[clever gust]

another ignorant statement

[gentle zinc]

People stop playing for many reasons you can't sya they all stopped because of Jack

[clever gust]

you're right, but I can say that most of them stopped because of jack

[gentle zinc]

Some are just playing other games. I'm not home to play so that could be a factor for many too

[cyan patrol]

Season 2 got some people to jump back on but they are all gone. The population is back to less than the end of season 1

[clever gust]

i was super excited about jack, everyone was. his release was disastrous for everyone that didn't want to 1 trick him

and they still haven't fixed him weeks later

[cyan patrol]

Every season sees a small boost where people come to see if the game is fixed, see its not, and are gone again

[gentle zinc]

Because some come back just to try the new character, others quit because the new character is annoying and being used constantly, others are playing other games or taking a break. It's the normal cycle of games with seasons or character releases

[stuck sable]

You're an annoying contrarian trying to ryuin the game for literaly everybody else. NOBODY should have a move as free and spammable as Jack. it is insane, it is not balanced, it is not GOOD, it is not SKILLED

[gentle zinc]

You're just spamming the same comment at me like I didn't hear it the first time

[clever gust]

he's not wrong though

and you're doing the same thing, if you wanna dumb things down

[gentle zinc]

I guess so then.

[clever gust]

honestly it's good to hear the opinion from someone who is CLEARLY a casual since you are acting like their opinions don't matter

[stuck sable]

Because you're just re-using the same idiotic argument that makes no sense.
"Well I can parry it, so therefor it is balanced and totally fine and everyone else in the game is bad and this move is not broken"

You're completely devoid of any sense or empathy or observational skills

[cyan patrol]

And this game population and performance is demonstrably worse than numerous other fighter games that have also been around longer. You can argue whatever you want but the numbers don't lie

[gentle zinc]

Don't know. Just saying they're not gonna nerf jack into the ground just because "casuals" don't like fighting him

[gentle zinc]

I didn't say that 😂

[clever gust]

except they are. the issue here is that they're taking too long to do it

and so the game is dying

[stuck sable]

That's literally what you're arguing

[gentle zinc]

#game-feedback message

[stuck sable]

Also this. Jack is completely broken and in every damn matchup, and the ranked matchmaking is absurdly unfair

[stuck sable]

Yeah, we're here to give feedback. Why are you here being an idiot arguing with people giving feedback. It's not game-arguments. Go away

[clever gust]

maybe he's an intern

[gentle zinc]

I said in that comment they should still nerf it but regardless you're still gonna have to parry it if you don't like it

[clever gust]

make sure to read my counterargument too so his point becomes moot

[gentle zinc]

Unless they make it super super slow which they won't do because that's not Jack

[stuck sable]

Then stop arguing with us you idiot, nobody has said they should remove the parry function

[patent halo]

I think they should nerf his rage gain and make the hitbox slightly smaller

[gentle zinc]

Nobody said you said that 😂

[stuck sable]

Then why are you arguing with us

[gentle zinc]

It's like arguing with a child and the other is not caring what is said 😂

[stuck sable]

You're just being annoying for no reason

[gentle zinc]

The rage gain nerf would help too. Less of the triple slash one going on

[stuck sable]

Jesus christ that's immature. So you're literally just here to "troll" people?

[gentle zinc]

You're the one calling me an idiot the whole time I haven't said anything to troll

[stuck sable]

You LITERALLY just said you're just here because you find it fun to argue with people you look down on. That's trolling.

[clever gust]

the worst kind of troll is the one that doesn't realize how annoying he's being

[gentle zinc]

When did I say that

[mossy hill]

i will answer this honestly : telling someome practice PARRY IT is getting ridiculous cuz parry has really small timespan and also sometimes u can fail hit the enemy after parried them cuz their position weird sometimes

[stuck sable]

Yeah just ignore him, he's not making any valid points and he's just being a jerk for the sake of it

[cyan patrol]

Nerfs and buffs are pointless when they don't fix hitboxes.

[gentle zinc]

I've not had that with Jack but it has happened before though in 1's parry seems to work really well. In 2s I'd not even bother with it

[mossy hill]

i used to practice parry but then i start to stop using it cuz almost pointless 90% of time cuz the window to parry too small

[lofty beacon]

The Parry needs less start up if they wanna keep it. Aint no reason why the dodge has less frames

[mossy hill]

and again i always move around so its hard to just do neutral dodge

[gentle zinc]

I only learned it because of Jack's side special and it's the only move I can do it consistently with and maybe Shaggy's kick but since it moves and has different speeds it's a lot harder

[mossy hill]

unless i set a button to do neutral dodge while running around (like how we have neutral and neutral special button while moving around)

[mossy hill]

honestly only shaggy kick and batman grapple i did so far

[clever gust]

"i only learned it because of one single thing in the entire game" means that thing needs to be nerfed. thank you for supporting my initial complaint on accident

[mossy hill]

i cant do parry on tnj paddle anymore

[gentle zinc]

Batman grapple I react depending on who I'm playing. Never have tried to parry it

[mossy hill]

oh yeah i wonder when they will add delay on steven up attack and up special

[mossy hill]

usually i tried parried it if its perfect condition

if its bad i dont

[stuck sable]

BEST OUT OF 3 SUUUUUUUUUCKS

IT SUUUUUUUCKS

I HAAAAAATE IT

[gentle zinc]

I never said you were wrong for wanting the nerf. Just said you can parry it too and that'll help you. Y'all just jumped at the handle because I said something that you took offense to

[stuck sable]

I HATE BEST OUT OF 3

IT IS AWFUL

I HATE THIS GAME

BEST OUT OF 3 IS SO BAD

PLEASE REMOVE BEST OUT OF 3

NOBODY LIKES THIS NEW SYSTEM

THIS MIS AWFUL

[gentle zinc]

I just roll with it. Batman kinda crazy if I'm Jason I do axe slam if t&j drop dynamite if not free hit

[stuck sable]

PLEASE REMOVE BEST OUT OF 3

NOBODY ASKED FOR THIS

NOBODY WANTED THIS

WHY DID YIU THINK ANYONE WANTED THIS

[gentle zinc]

Spamming in all caps will just make them ignore you

[stuck sable]

REMOVE BEST IF 3

[patent halo]

I'm having a lot more fun and winning a lot more with best of 3. I like it a lot.

[gentle zinc]

Same

[stuck sable]

I HATE HAVING TO REMATCH WHEN MY TEAMMATE IS AFK

I HATE HAVING TO REMATCH WHEN THE ENEMY IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER RANK

[gentle zinc]

This is valid though

[stuck sable]

I HATE HAVING TO REMATCH WHEN THE ENEMY IS A CAMPING IDIOT

I HATE HAVING TO REMATCH WHEN I WIN ONLY FOR THE GAME TO CRASH AND GIVE ME NO POINTS

[gentle zinc]

Maybe just stop playing ranked?

[stuck sable]

I HATE THIS GAME

I HATE THIS SO MUCH

PLEASE REMOVE BEST OUT OF 3

[cyan patrol]

Can't say my experience is the same but then again 3/4 matches in 2v2 I end up with a sub 100 damage teammate. So constantly having to rematch with them sucks

[stuck sable]

PLEASE MAKE SURE COURAGE IS NEVER A CHARACTER IN THE GAME BECAUSE THIS DUDE IS MAKING ME HATE COURAGE

PLEASE REMOVE BEST OUT OF 3

I HATE REMATCHING

[patent halo]

Did you know the damage calc is incorrect? it doesn't coutn for projectile damage

[stuck sable]

I HATE THIS SO MUCH

[gentle zinc]

This person is a child I swear 😂

[stuck sable]

PLEASE STOP FORCING REMATCHES

PLEASE REMOVE BEST OUT OF 3

PLEASE

[mossy hill]

yep

[stuck sable]

I HATE IT

NOBODY WANTED THIS

REMOVE IT

[cyan patrol]

Just block the spammer

[gentle zinc]

I didn't know that's crazy

[stuck sable]

I did block him

[mossy hill]

i meannn i dealt like over 700 damage if against steven mostly but it count like 300 only

[gentle zinc]

Didn't think of that thanks

[clever gust]

We are jumping at you because you are coming at us with a "just parry" mentality in a feedback section meant for the developers

[stuck sable]

You are an awful human being and I hope you suffer in real life

[dreamy bough]

Don’t know what you guys are talking about in here but i second that statement

[stuck sable]

Based

[clever gust]

based

[slender bear]

finns 0 to death is so stupid

[mossy hill]

everyone been complaining that lol

[slender bear]

yea im rarely in this channel but honestly its so cheap

[mossy hill]

lets dont forget how a menace is IG

[gentle zinc]

That's the only part you're focusing on as if I said git gud noob. You don't have to take the suggestion. It worked for me so I'm telling you because it's been great ever since. I know the move will get nerfed and I never said because you can parry it they shouldn't nerf it.

[stuck sable]

Stop putting me against low rank characters, nobody wants to get 10RP per goddamned win. Stop putting me against super high ranked people, nobody think sthis is fair.

DO put me in games against ranked players of similar rank to mine, that is what every other damn ranked game does and that's what's actually fair. I want a natural progresion of getting better, not this absolute BS of constantly losing games because you put me with a bronze level jake against a team of diamonds.

[gentle zinc]

They need to. It is too good especially the triple slash. I'm just saying learn to parry it if you don't want to be frustrated by the move. Even after it's nerfed it's not like the doesn't exist anymore it's just weaker. But it'll still be annoying, he'll still have the triple slash it'll just be weaker. So why not try parrying it to make your own gameplay experience easier?

[gentle zinc]

Works on everybody too

[clever gust]

this is a freemium game that will only stay alive if casuals play it, you need to stop preaching that parrying is the answer. parrying is a tool for high level players, and that's fine, but the game will die if they make parrying mandatory at all levels, and you will never get your dog in the game if that happens

this is my message to the DEVELOPERS who want to keep their jobs, not to you

[stuck sable]

Even if I was a parry god I would still think this move was EXTREMELY spammable compared to all other characters in the games with similar moves. It has huge hitboxes, it has no cooldown at all, it has practically no whiff time at all when they miss, and the hitboxes lasts SUPER long so even if you dodge it you can still get sucked into it.

This is not a fair move just because you can parry it, because every damn move in the game can be parried so he shouldn't be the only one that has a move that is broken beyond all reason SIMPLY because it's possible to parry it. It's possible to parry all attacks, that is not a good argument why this move isn't busted.

[gentle zinc]

As long as Samurai Jack isn't the most played character I think it'll be fine. So they'll have to nerf it to make it more skillful or shows up much less in fights.

[stuck sable]

Also yeah if they keep having characters with moves that are completely broken and a ranked system that makes the vast majority of people feel unfairly matched guess what, people are going to stop playing this game and the game will die before you ever get Courage in the game.

[gentle zinc]

Pretty rare it goes dead in this one.

[stuck sable]

If the midseason patch doesn't come with a SIGNIFICANT nerf to Jack I am going to change my Steam review to "not reccomended"

Matchmaking in ranked needs a MASSIVE overhaul. It is not fun or balanced in any way

[mossy hill]

• finn backpack nerf

• velma GOD DAMN ADJUSTMENT (esp buff and bug fixes)

[patent halo]

I would like Garnet buffs. Specifically neutral special (her song) could be sped up. It's currently 23 frames and I think it would be reasonable to be dropped to approx 10-15 frames (the speed of a jab). Currently it's really hard to use as an anti-projectile move because it's so slow.

I think neutral special would be really cool if you could dodge cancel out of it.

I think up air could be buffed so the second hit connects better (characters sometimes fall out of the 2nd hit). I think the connectivity from sair1 to sair 2 could also be looked at and made better.

[cyan crag]

You can play perfect and still get randomly f**** because your attack phase through your opponant instead of landing because their hitbox disappeared

Instead of making three characters per season fix the mess you already have in your code damnit

[patent halo]

I would like buffs to perks or simply make the perks more interesting. I think every char should have viable signature perks and there are plenty of characters like garnet and banana guard that don't have viable signature perks.

Everyone picks pugilist in slot 3 for perks.

Movespeed is overused in slot 2 for perks.

Snowball effect is overused in slot 1.

I think Banana Guard's perk that gives the projectile shield could be sped up. Similar issue to the Garnet issue where the shield comes up way too slowly.

Banana guard is considered one of the weaker characters currently and he struggles with projectiles.

[inner slate]

I just want attack decay to come back, the side attack/ jab is way too abused

[cyan patrol]

Ahh the joy of watching 4 of your attacks from 3 different moves go straight through the opponent. Bad hitboxes ruined this game

[prime magnet]

did anyone else just use the circuit stuff for gelumium? i did that cause none of the outfits look good ngl. Would rather wait for a good event yk

[patent halo]

you can buy circuit costumes with cybucks

[prime magnet]

ik that, im jsut saying that id rather use that stuff to get glemium

and just save for a better even

t

[patent halo]

I like a lot of the circuit skins, but I haven't spent gleamium like u said.

The blue taz tongue is really fun. I like the outlines of a lot of the circuit skins. I'm tempted to get stripes cuz I think it looks really cool.

[sleek sequoia]

please communicate any possible way for me to not receive six (6) rp for wining a ranked game while losing over 20

like doesnt it logically make sense that matchmaking shouldnt put together a match where the winner will recieve barely any rank points?

[wide junco]

nerf finn honestly. its hard to get him in a jab or attack him when he can hield his jabs and up tilt.

[sleek sequoia]

also "season peak rank" should be communicated differently, if I rank down on my highest character my peak should not lower with it- that's not what peak means lmfao, peak should be the highest you've gotten at any point

[gentle zinc]

What's that song thing do ? I've never known

[gentle zinc]

I feel like they might just because it would solve a lot of the issues

[inner slate]

Move spammers mostly but I can't get over the fact of how terrible players are
Either playing so campy or hugging the wall a lot

[sharp fjord]

just got a jack that did nothing but that spinning air move

sigh

[patent halo]

Any non-heavy projectile gets captured in the song and is frozen. If you smack the projectile it will reflect back to the enemy.

Every .5 seconds you get a .5 stacks of rhythm. At 1 stack you get movespeed. At 2 stacks you get armor break (music note icon above her head)

[gentle zinc]

I hug the wall a lot ngl. If you're trying to pressure me there I'll hug until you back off or one of us dies.

[sharp fjord]

Jack has 4 multihits

half his kit

[gentle zinc]

That's cool as hell

[inner slate]

I thought they added a thing called wall fatigue to prevent that but I guess it doesn't work whatsoever

[gentle zinc]

It just makes you slide down faster I think. I've seen it tell me once that I had fatigue but it doesn't do much if you ask me

[mossy hill]

guys

how many days until mid season

we got 60 days for season end

and 30 days for mid season

[gentle zinc]

😂

[mossy hill]

how many days we have before mid season?

[gentle zinc]

You're tired of Samurai Jack? I don't know honestly

[mossy hill]

not really

cuz i wanted see velma buff already lol

[patent halo]

I'm more tired of finn than jack lol.

[gentle zinc]

I assumed that was why 😂those Velma buffs will hopefully be spicy

[patent halo]

Finn, joker, gizmo, morty

[mossy hill]

like she only need the attack startup minimun (especially on those UP SPECIAL FFS)

[gentle zinc]

Finn for me definitely. Backpack pulled me from underneath him once when i tried to up attack him and the rage was unbelievable

[mossy hill]

like the animation is so delayed that enemy easily punished u

they prob need nerf backpack

for finn

[gentle zinc]

And his movement or momentum in it

[mossy hill]

msot of his combo fine until the backpack comes in

i think

[patent halo]

it sucks you in LOL

then spits you out xD

[mossy hill]

they might nerf the delay for finn to jump or something

[gentle zinc]

He shouldn't be charging the sword up forever either.

[mossy hill]

like how they did to shaggy

[gentle zinc]

They change those things I think k he's fine

[mossy hill]

its 5 second charge feels like forever too

they should reduce it to 2 sec tbh...

[patent halo]

I think give the sword the treatment they did to taz's up sandwich

that would b good

you could even make his last a lil longer than taz

[mossy hill]

its already 2 sec longer than taz lol

rn its 5 sec

taz has 3 sec

[patent halo]

taz is 1.2

[gentle zinc]

Oh okay nvm then. Make it like 2 or 3 seconds.

[mossy hill]

yeah they just need reduce the duration into lower

[gentle zinc]

I think we've been in this season for like 2 weeks.

Not too sure when mid season is though. If the season is 60 days then next week.

Maybe.

[sharp fjord]

I think it will be midseason next week

[patent halo]

ya I really like that reduction to how long he can hold it change

[sharp fjord]

I dislike how they let jack completely dominate the season like this

[patent halo]

Finn's side special going through projectiles is kinda messed up tbh

[sharp fjord]

4 multihits, dude

4 moves you practically can't dodge

and his jab

and focus building up out of being hit too???? really? why?

[gentle zinc]

It's just because he's the season's character. Long as they don't do what Respawn does with Apex and leave the new characters OP all season I'm cool

[sharp fjord]

no, it's because he's stronger than the rest of the cast

[wide junco]

i agree with this statement, its hard to rush them and counter their daiir not to mention the stunbox on his jab is stupid

[split robin]

Just gotta respect the Side Special and punish it. Same gameplan as Shaggy and Banana Guard really. I’m beating every Jack with Jason right now and my highest rank is Silver. I still struggle with the Clowns and even Iron Giant more overall.

Matchup forces you to play patient and punish his over-extensions. Zoners have a decently easy time against Jack also because most of his movement options are tied to that Side Special, and with enough projectiles most Jacks will crack and try to slash through (I’m guilty of this and just got beat by a Velma 2-1 in Ranked).

Not hating, just trying to share my thoughts on the Matchup to help out.

Jack is in my opinion still Super Strong though and I can see move-lockout in his future

[wide junco]

i guess your right, but frankly, look at the other casts for example steven right, they all spam Nair dair and up air everytime. or even arya her launch attack si too fast and strong or frankly joker with his ridculous jab that can hit you from behind......

[split robin]

It’s true. There’s a lot of abusable stuff in the game unfortunately. I struggled earlier while playing Jason earlier against a Stripe cuz all he had to do was spam Up Special against Jason’s frame

[wide junco]

this game is so unbalanced bro. thousands and thousands quit because of it

[split robin]

I got him in the end, but I had to seriously pump the brakes and recollect myself

[fair ibex]

Add some grey to lebrons beard🤦‍♂️ keep up🤦‍♂️

[sharp fjord]

Jack can consistently reflect projectiles in case you didn't know

[crimson hare]

Can we Add a surrender set for ranked matches lol sometimes it is way too much to go to another game js for my opponent to sd 3 times

[fair ibex]

What’s ur point so can other characters

[kind saffron]

I'm not really the type of person to ask for a nerf on someone just because I lost to them, but seriously I haven't really played a Black Adam before, and I just realized how broken he is, he can basically fly and stay in the air the whole game and its completely unfair, I am not saying this because I am bad, but because its genuinely not fair and he just ran the whole game without fighting. I spent about a 25 minute session on this set, also another reason to remove best of 3. The game ran out of time on the first 2 games, with 30 seconds left on the last one.. Please get rid of this mobility that is completely unfair and is very annoying to deal with..

[sharp fjord]

that was to the guy saying zoners would have advantage over jack

[fair ibex]

Oh😂

[turbid rover]

Yeah but the grab frame is kinda slow and has end lag most of the time ur gonna use a projectile as bait if he reflects it you get in for free

[dense cipher]

how about we actually try to fix character's hit/hurtboxes in this game?

seems like alot of these characters can hit from behind or just completely whiff when animation makes contact

[turbid rover]

They have better things to do they haven’t felt like changing hit boxes in 2yrs fr /sarc

[dense cipher]

or even try fixing durations like finn's charge and supermans glide grab? they go so far

i main jason and it's so frustrating knowing that i make actual contact with these other characters and it doesn't register as a hit. i don't know what it is but cmon now.

be great if there was a replay that we can watch with hit/hurtboxes turned on

[split robin]

I know.

Not saying he isn’t strong. Jack is AT LEAST Top 10, currently imo.

[static heron]

I love when shaggy wins by doing nothing

[sturdy dagger]

I wouldn't call it an advantage per say. However characters with projectiles don't have to get close to challenge, Jack's virtually constant barrage of long range hit boxes.

[tacit aspen]

velmas neutral special is targeting mojo and breakable terrain in ranked, sometimes getting stuck in the ground til someone runs over it, but it specifically says it seeks out ally

[stuck sable]

I HATE ranked matchmaking. I HATE being paired with low level GARBAGE teammates who die constantly, not being allowed to deny the rematch that I know I will lose because my idiot teammate is the worst and can neither kill nor survive, and then get punished with -20 for not carrying this good for nothing LOSER.

I HATE YOU, THIS IS AN AWFUL SYSTEM

WHat is with this godforsaken idiotic system, WHY do you give me back to back matches with bronze teammates when I am in plat. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS SYETEM, HOW IS THIS FAIR.

[rose grail]

I feel u bro, I was literally on a winning streak just to get stuck with a shaggy with a default banner and pfp who proceeded to predictably be trash. Like why can’t we for once get tm8 with the same rank

[stuck sable]

Worst part is I'm on a massive losing streak now, and the game is still giving me bronze tier teammates to fight against higher tier enemies, I've gone down an entire tier today, and I can't even decline a rematch when I know from the very first screen that this teammate isn't going to be fun to play with.

It's absolutely demoralizing

[fleet garnet]

@stuck sable this is because the playerbase is small right now. People are frustrated. So it is matching much larger skill gap games

[foggy ether]

DUDE
I had TWO people, two different matches in a row leave the game after a loss in Ranked!
And I get NOTHING.
What the heck? Whats even the point of playing 1v1?????

That's like… NOT ok

That's game breaking

Is there no longer BO3 anymore or what?

And yes “leave” means DC. That needs to be punished

[topaz rose]

What you guys do and don’t patch needs to be more consistent. The moment people saw a Garnet loop, you guys get rid of it, yet T&J, a MAGE, gets a literal 0-100 loop that can’t be dodged. LeBron got his combos heavily nerfed, yet joker, a MAGE, gets a single jab and gets 70 damage. What should and shouldn’t be in the game is so inconsistent and unpredictable, you guys seriously need to work consistency. Also for the love of Black Adam down air FIX YOUR SERVERS

[stuck sable]

Best of 3 is the most unfun most idiotic design most horrible crappy mechanic they've added to the game thus far.

[latent phoenix]

Literally was finna say the same thing

I really don't care about the best of 3 though

I just want more rp

I'm winning but what for

[tacit aspen]

gold 2 getting matched with bronze 5 and he jumps twice for no reason. this is the most bs

[latent phoenix]

Still waiting for them samurai jack nerfs

[stuck sable]

You literally got a lot more points when it was just one set of games, because at least then you were guaranteed points when you won a game. And if you had a horrible game, you weren't FORCED to play another game with the same horrible teammate or against the same horrible enemies

I hate this so much

[latent phoenix]

Literally bro

[latent phoenix]

Real

[stuck sable]

they've effectively tripled the frustration of ranked

[latent phoenix]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that

I play less now that ranks in then I did at first

[fleet garnet]

I am surprised they didn’t walk back the forced bo3 change immediately.

My thinking is they didn’t have a way to change the way mmr or rp gains worked after the bo3 change. So we have to wait longer for it to be reverted

[foggy ether]

Is it still BO3?

I can't tell because everyone I play just quit after they lose in rematch screen

I'm not taking anymore chances either

[sharp fjord]

personally I simply quit when I'm not having fun... I'm not gonna stay bo3

no fkn chance

not gonna play 3 matches with a tom spamming jerry non-stop, or chase a morty or gizmo for 3 matches

not worth the stress

[mossy hill]

literally me trying hit this black adam

can they fkin nerf WW

it just impossible to hit her with the ammount armor she had

when using certain character

[distant dust]

I am not happy that Shaggy always spams sandwiches and instinct kicks with rage version. It needs to be toned down. The update made the rage with sandwich faster, but there is a slight delay. I think one last "zoinks" is acceptable when you reach 100 damage, but it is worse than banana guard. There is still a noticeable delay, but it is even worse.

[mossy hill]

they just need gave cooldown for shaggy sandwich lol

[distant dust]

Yeah good point

[mossy hill]

like maybe 1 sec or 2

[distant dust]

To make it delay longer?

[minor sail]

Wasn't shaggy sandwich a problem in og game ? I swear I remember it being a problem anyways iv been enjoying the game in ranked for the games I play I'm climbing two characters I'm in silver haven't played much a couple games everyday or so been enjoying the games I have everyone respects the bo3 that iv played with not one has left other then if they actually afk or whatever so that's a nice plus to have in game would love to be able to change characters after best of 3 even if it isn't for rp or whatever comp points defiantly needs to be in normal modes forsure AFTER the best of 3 not before please don't mess that up. I see people complain about some characters I can see maybe some being a problem but I don't play enough or high enough I'm guessing to deal with spam or annoying characters but for most part it's fun vs anyone especially the rare characters those are always annoying and difficult. Defiantly alot of emotional comments to its hard get used to it can't do much about it stop complaint just get better gotta leave this here because atleast for some of them it's true not all but some. Honestly no complaints rn it's slid into my play 1-3 bo3 a day and then get off I'm not grinding it this game is way too much to grind ( I rotate rocket, bf5/42,helldivers,fort,pubg if I got time) so it's honestly for me fallen nicely in place I'm enjoying the game (f rifts I'll never touch them played 7 or so never again just not my thing) all the feed back I got I think

[mossy hill]

also why bugs can spam bat like harley

and also he can almost unlimited

by doing air neutral and down attack nonstop

since theres no delay

[sturdy dagger]

There's a two nair limit. I wouldn't mind limiting the bat to two as well.

[mossy hill]

but here is a thing he can just down air u then n air then jump from ground redo same thing

[sturdy dagger]

Yes but thats not bad he's following up on a landed hit.

He would need there to be damage to kill with that if he just could bat up only twice.

[mossy hill]

they could just nerf the hitstun

im fine with its damage but not the hitstun

[sturdy dagger]

He runs on hits stun, he's designed to capitalize on it.

[mossy hill]

its more to the hitstun on the n air

[sturdy dagger]

It's meant to combo into up ground attack, and neutral attack.

[mossy hill]

lmao this joker salt no reason

i didnt use any toxic char

i dont even tbag or use salt emote lol

[sturdy dagger]

I do think there should be more risk to whiffing across the game, and cancels should devour the dodge bar.

[sturdy dagger]

Because it's Joker

[mossy hill]

thats the thing

dodge cancel should eat the bar instead they eat and regain

[balmy bloom]

Bro please Im so done with finn

Nerf this loser in mid season

If I see finn go untouched again im gonna lose my mind

[autumn estuary]

i hope they reduce his charge timer slightly and buff 3 other things in his kit as compensation

[topaz rose]

Let him charge it for like 6 seconds

I’d say that’s more than fair

And enough time to give him to go for a dodge read without his neutral game becoming sit and hold jab or up tilt until they approach

[strong cove]

pls let us sell cosmetics for half the gleamium we bought them for 🙏

[balmy bloom]

Does he even have a charge timer 😭 I swear it doesnt feel like it its massive

[autumn estuary]

it is infact not infinite

[balmy bloom]

I think instead they should umm break both his arms and legs

Yeah

Should be good enough

[autumn estuary]

I'll visit him in the hospital until he feels better

[whole pond]

Something needs to be done about the inconsistency of knockback and damage

[minor sail]

The charge it almost instant max of 3 uses pretty sure then there's timer

Then I think it replenishes one at a time over a second or so atleats that's what it feels like as a Finn main

[autumn estuary]

what?

[mossy hill]

he has 3 sec on timer

[autumn estuary]

oh that's what he meant

[minor sail]

His l/r special charge ?

[autumn estuary]

dassa different subject

[minor sail]

What charge then ?

U said reduce charge timer

[autumn estuary]

charged jab

[minor sail]

Oh

[sturdy dagger]

He needs to be open on whiff, and less hold time on charge. He can already buff himself.

[autumn estuary]

or up/down/neutral attack

[minor sail]

Finn has a billion different ways u can nerf and buff him they better find something nice cause for good players he's op just spam insta out but for average players hrs difficult to match hits and get people out unless ur using slap when u can buying bmo etc

So tough to balance for both ends which is needed can't do one or other so hopefully they get it right

[autumn estuary]

more fern content soon please tony goodnight

[remote dirge]

Nerf stripe uptilt into dair true

Too many follow ups from that move

[ebon radish]

Here’s my big list of desired balance changes and gameplay tweaks. I think some fundamentals of the game need to be reviewed and adjusted for the game going forward.

• Attack stun - Stuns and hitbox extensions need to be shortened, having a teammate or your projectile get hit before you, dodging, and getting hit anyways never feels good. Same goes for the opposite end of hitting something/someone and being unable to respond or react to an incoming attack can feel like too much punishment for attacking.

• Damage attenuation - Move spam gets irritating, and fast. With competitive releasing and people desperately wanting to win, it has highlighted the strongest moves in characters kits with players spamming them because they can get away with it, and they’re highly effective. Characters like Bugs Bunny, Samurai Jack, Black Adam, Joker, and Harley Quin are some of the best examples of this, having two or three attacks with big hitboxes, good damage, high knock back, or very easy combo potential. There should be some punishment for spamming somewhere around three moves, like reduced damage to incentivize using a larger variety of a characters kit.

• Dodging - If an attack is dodged, it can often feel like a 50/50 outcome due to dodging avoiding one frame of hitboxes. The only way to combat multihit attacks is by landing parries. If you dodge one hit of a multihit, the rest will still connect while you’re still in the dodge animation and there should likely be a larger window on avoidance, if not flat out immunity to the remainder of an attack if it was successfully dodged. As well as that, if an attack is successfully dodged while in mid air, it should restore that charge of air dodge to avoid characters with larger hitboxes or faster movements like Jake or Gizmo from being able to infinitely keep someone in the air. Lastly for dodging, when dodging a projectile or parrying a projectile, all you’ve done is avoid the damage, while remaining open to the follow up from the attacker with little that can be done. Parries on projectiles should stun the attacker if they’re close, while the other issue could be fixed with dodging having a larger invulnerability window.

• Hitboxes/Hurtboxes - No character is an exception to this, some hitboxes are way bigger than their visuals, or way smaller than their visuals. There should really be a full once over between the hitbox team, balance team, and animation team, or whoever manages the three to fundamentally go through each character and review them all. Black Adam is a prominent example, with his neutral attack, up attack, and air neutral attack being very obviously bigger than while having good damage and great knock back. On the other hand, hurtboxes suffer from the same issues as hitboxes. There’s little reason that any hurtbox should really be bigger than the actual hitbox of an attack, but that’s the case for a few characters, like Jason’s neutral air special. It’s not a bad thing to have attacks or balance attacks with intangibility on the portion of the body doing the attack, with a weaker attack that's safer to do.

[balmy bloom]

Bro please please please just nerf finn and arya and then I'll be the happiest man on earth

I want nothing more than this

Im begging you pfg

My beloved

[sturdy dagger]

Variants need a look over several of them are clipping themselves.

[quick vortex]

when silly queue come back please add a pvp mode where you can use rift gems

[balmy bloom]

WHYYYY IS TNJ LIKE THIS

OMMFFGGGGG

Im actually tweaking out rn

I cant tell which ones worse to fight, arya, finn, or tnj

Its tnj idc anymore

Idgaf nerf this loser to the ground

Yeah ok I think I genuinely broke my controller

Never thrown it against the wall until now

I need a break

Please for the sake of my mental health just do something about tnj

What is this horrendous loop he has

10 gazillion projectiles everywhere on the stage

[grizzled geode]

Dexter's lab stage is not the music to Dexter's laboratory. Yall made it haunted and creepy sounding

[serene lodge]

i said this the other day but i swear rick's attacks have too long of a hit stun

you cannot escape his attacks and he has time to even charge them while you are being combod

its a bit unreasonable

[foggy ether]

These and Taz are my top priority nerf list.

[glass patio]

Could they do something against people being afk in game just so they get their mission ?

[balmy bloom]

I swear

Im losing my mind against them

And joker

Hes way too strong

[foggy ether]

Joker base kit so strong his busted power just comes from himself.
He has everything.
I've accepted hell always be among top.
But Finn and these other guys just have ridiculous hurtboxes and stuff.
Like Finn has a easier time carrying someone up to their death then Shaggy does and that's saying something.

Also like Iron Giant.
I can combo the heck out of him.
But if that IG touches me even for a moment I'm basically dead.

This is only actual good players were talking here of course.
Because those players wont let me escape

Like I can escape Finn zero to death, but if a experienced player does it I'm gonna die.

[versed otter]

If you are to push us to play FFA with quests, please make it stock based.

[tulip hinge]

That would actually be nice FFA just feels a chore to play and people grief it just to do the missions

There is no incentive to play it you just wait it out until anyone gets 4 KO's

[versed otter]

Yeah, someone can do 20 damage in the match and manage to get 4 KOs because they accidentally touched a player. It's just competition to get last hit.

My feeling is that stock based would make matches longer but they can reduce it to 2 stocks per players and that'd be fast

[cinder sable]

Jason having almost 20 frames of startup on every move is beyond trash for game design/balancing

[minor breach]

I've disconnected 3 times in 20 minutes can y'all fix your damn servers

4 times

[mossy hill]

@minor breach use #netcode-chat for complaining connection game

[remote dirge]

Yea he needs more

[mossy hill]

Wait

Dash forward with any attack make them attack faster?

[tiny lily]

No?
Unless its something character specific

If you dodge then attack, youll be able to input an attack very fast (and can do a grounded aerial off of that too)
But if you dash (dodge meter is empty and you input dodge) you lose both benefits and have to wait out for the dash animation to end

[mossy hill]

I mean lemme show a video

[tiny lily]

Read above

[mossy hill]

Thats what i mean

I just saw a video

[tiny lily]

Dash is dodge without meter

Thats how iron giant has any kind of combo game

[mossy hill]

They dodge attack forward it instantly fast attack

Cuz i saw this guy did velma dash forward calculated @tiny lily

And thd calculated pop out faster

Which i was like wait that fast af

[little heron]

anyone else think joker is way too safe

[lusty sparrow]

yo game. if im going to be matched with master rank players in 2v2 early on. can ya at least not match me with a bronze on my team. wasnt fun i tell ya.

[little heron]

just got paired with a master as a low gold

this system is so broken

[lusty sparrow]

same.

like why keep playin when you hit master? you got the last jack skin, congrats. log off.

[remote dirge]

I went against a master 1 as a silver in 1s

Top 30 global and tournament winner even 😭

#clips message

I hope mid season they fix ranked match making

[lusty sparrow]

yeah

[cinder sable]

In 2’s I went against a plat 1 with a master 3 as a gold 4 and gold 1 🗿💀

[tulip hinge]

I swear to god if they don't nerf Finn by next match im uninstalling this game

It's just frustratnig

[ionic kettle]

@tulip hingeits ridiculous to have these characters with 0 to death combos where there in no dodging or getting out of them and the loops some of the fighters have ruin the game the developers really need to do better makes me not even want to play

[tulip hinge]

Finn has basically any wiff so they just run around spamming uptilt or side attack and dodging until you die and in between he gets a lucky or two 0td

[ionic kettle]

@tulip hingeyeah ik makes him almost impossible to play against but even the characters with crazy loops and endless projectiles are ruining the game they need to have a cool down tom&jerry,rick,bugs cant just spam projectiles and they have crazy power moves for every direction

[mossy hill]

it should be there cuz mid season usually a huge cooking coming up

like how they did in 1.05 its mid season 1

[mossy hill]

oh... i just notice velma ground down is actually projcetile lol

[quick vortex]

garnet buffs
re add garnet throwing opponents along the gem dash line and give her beta gauntlet control if you hold the imput
also give her a passive where the longer she has RHYTHM stacks also gives her future vision stacks which gives her auto dodge chance which goes on cooldown for 10 seconds if she would get knocked out.
future vision starts at a 5% chance at base and climb to 30% at max stacks of 5

and change her parry into a counter where she either grabs you and pump electricity/ice/fire into the opponent giving shock/ice/fire debuff or if hit by a projectile shoot a homing ice finger blast giving ice stack most of this gets better the higher her RHYTHM stacks are as she get more in the groove of the fight.
all of her specials get bigger range with RHYTHM stacks.
all of this combined should change garnet into a character who is weak at base and the opponent will constantly try and prevent.
ALSO BUFF HER TRASH DODGE DISTANCE PLEASE.

[mossy hill]

welp

not to mention

[stuck sable]

Please remove the "tiny dot" effect from the Tooniverse skin on characters that are not from Comic Books. This effect makes sense on DC characters that are all from comic books, this effect does not make sense for actual toon characters that did not have comicbook coloration.

Characters like Samurai Jack, Bugs Bunny, and Finn the Human would look a lot better with ONLY a black outline, some of them would look better if the effect had a thicker outline as well. However, the "tiny dot" comicbook effect of the Tooniverse skin makes no sense on these characters.

The skin is called the Tooniverse skin, not the Comicverse, the comicbook effect should not be on actual Toon characters.

[mossy hill]

if they didnt touch black adam at all

they are crazy

[lofty beacon]

Don’t forget, buff her garbage dodge distance

[quick vortex]

thank god you reminded me of how bad it is again also did i overbuff her?

[lofty beacon]

Compared to how majority of the Roster is, it’s completely fair

[mossy hill]

so....

PFG you telling me

velma down ground is a projectile?

on the description

but WHY it doesnt proc the perks that use projectiles lol

[quick vortex]

send it to the bug page tbh

[mossy hill]

i mean its her calculated attack

it did say projectiles that hits the enemy

[stone sluice]

Bug makes me run off the map randomly only in ranked

Also happens to teammates and enemies

Fix ts the game already buns you shouldn’t have all these bugs

[quick vortex]

https://multiversus.bugs.wbgames.com/all
post it and i will upvote

[mossy hill]

@quick vortexshould be up

also u can see what i meant in #off-topic

[prime magnet]

for rifts how do you block a projectile? im parrying them cause i thought that is what it wants but im wrong

[mossy hill]

check perks list

maybe there is

i meant gems

[prime magnet]

none of the dicipline perks seem to have anything with blocking projectiles

[mossy hill]

oh wait

i think i know

u know WW shield

yeah thats your asnwer there @prime magnet

[prime magnet]

bet bet

[quick vortex]

use black adam bubble

[tacit aspen]

thats how i blocked them, side special and just held it

[hollow narwhal]

Could someone explain Black Adam's kit?

He has a double air fireball that stops projectiles.
He has an armored projectile that comes from above him.
He stops projectiles with a bubble. He's also able to stop projectiles within the air that'll chain towards the opponent AND goes through platforms.
The thunder summoning move alone has a wide hitbox on top of being armored.
Along with this he has flight AND an air special that summons a projectile behind him for protection.
and he's a bruiser.

For comparison, Garnet's dance is the only thing that stops most projectiles. Her rocket fist will clash with projectiles smaller (sometimes). She primarily has her up special and side tackle for recovery. Both of which has minimal effect for actual recovery (which makes sense given her size).

could we ever so slightly elongate her rhythm stacks just a bit along with bring back her armor on some of her final hits?

[grizzled bane]

Black Adam is just a very unbalanced bruiser. Not broken, but just unbalanced. They def need to tone some of his kit down

[hollow narwhal]

I agree he's a just a tad overtuned.

Lebron too but that's a problem for another time (maybe)

[grizzled bane]

Nah, Lebron is fine. I have a losing matchup with him being a Jason main, but he did not need those nerfs, especially with characters like Joker and Finn in the game

[hollow narwhal]

comparing him to higher charactern's doesn't mean he isn't strong for his role (imo)

that ball having the knockback of a dang missle is crazy when it's bouncing so slow/low

[warm schooner]

…

[grizzled bane]

Yea, but he's not OP. If anything, he needs more. Maybe toning his basketballs down a bit while making his no-ball attacks better

[hollow narwhal]

oh, and this is probably very minor, but a filtering system for the fighters would be nice. Just so we can find out who does what quickly

[hollow narwhal]

I 100% support this

His no ball attack should have more KB than his balls

[stuck sable]

What?
I think that's good feedback on a thing I think they could easily change

[hollow narwhal]

like yeah Bball players shoot the ball with specific force but they play defense wayy harder

[autumn estuary]

did you forget multiversus is literally getting a comic tie-in

also last time they changed tooniverse skins they got an absolute flood of refund requests lol

[stuck sable]

Pretty sure Multiversus was created as a game first, not as a comicbook tie in.
Either way I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of players would rather have Toon skins that makes the characters look like they look in the Toon universe they come from, rather than a generic comicbook effect that makes no sense on them since they don't come from a comicbook. Except for DC characters, who should all still have the comicbook effect.

[stuck sable]

Yes, because it was changed to add the comicbook effect to some skins that previously did not have it. Such as Taz

If nothing else, change the name of the Tooniverse skin to "Comicverse" if you're not going to change the comic effect. Otherwise it's false advertising

Pretty sure the Toomniverse skin only works this way now because it was remade fro the Relaunch and for Unreal 5. I'm saying if they change the Tooniverse to look better on actual toon characters, more people would want to buy them and they would be more accurate to their canonical appearances.

[gritty zephyr]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersus/comments/1epplx7/im_just_the_messenger/

[autumn estuary]

morty interaction with fern: "stop overthinking it dude, let's just — y'know, do this."
does morty already say something similar to that I don't see morties that much any more

[topaz rose]

It is weird Fern has lines with Morty but not the other way around

Yet Morty has lines for Finn and I’m pretty sure Finn doesn’t have any for him

[harsh bone]

PFG, I know you probably only have 2 people working on this game at this point, but start banning the FFA afk'ers ruining matches. Thanks.

[autumn estuary]

it's weird that nobody has lines with fern at all not even finn

[topaz rose]

Evil Morty has some leaked ones

[sturdy dagger]

I think their update schedule is predetermined. Which means no fast fixes.

[tacit aspen]

let us vote for maps not to use in ranked

[stuck sable]

Jack forward special is EXTREMELY spammable and EXTREMELY powerful for how extremely spammable it is.

It's extremely fast to start up, it has no cooldown at all, it has a SUPER large hitbox that lasts longer than most dodges so you can literally dodge it and still get sucked into it, and it has almost now iff at all for how powerful it is

[foggy ether]

My opinion Black Adam clap is all of this but better.

And jack side special got enough startup. I know because players hit jack out of it all the time

[stuck sable]

Both should be nerfed

[foggy ether]

Not having any news about a character coming within days now is really getting ti me
In almost every fighter game you see a trailer of the character gameplay way before release.