game-feedback

[winged jungle]

Ik that

That's why I included the 20 hp grey healt

Just imaging... A best of 2 meters tall approaching to you, you trying to stop him with all of your resources but nothing works.... and you are just waiting until that beast is taken down by a miracle..

Yeah, that works

I also made some new perks for Jason

Back to his roots

Any grab related move will recieve a buff on Damage and knockback, however, the ground n-special it's replaced by a Slow 2 machete stab grab, being a reference to MKX.

If you use it on an allie, you can pick him up and throw it, becoming on a powerful projectile and doing posible follow ups with this.

Sleeper from Hell

Jason will slam his sleeping bag that will be set on fire, doing a TON of damage and knocback, however it will have more endlag.

This it's a reference to the Sleeping bag scene from Friday the 13th (2009)

Zombie's speedster

Ground Neutral Special instead of giving Jason a buff on damage and knockback, it will buff your Speed and Endlag, meaning that now Jason has greater combos potential.

The allie will also receive a Speed buff

If i have the required skills for drawing

[junior surge]

That's was all kinda genius

[winged jungle]

thanks

[wise flame]

Nerf black adam rn

[winged jungle]

nah

[wise flame]

Bro his loop is too good

[winged jungle]

nah

nef vilma

[wise flame]

And it’s annoying

[winged jungle]

Idk about BA, but I know he has some loops

Every Black Adam that i fought are actually quite predictable

My only issue is WHY the up-tilt has armor

[coral bolt]

Missions shouldn't require you to have a specific skin, character or even friends

If an event mission requires a specific skin to be completed, then said event should provide you with that skin

[winged jungle]

True

I can work like TF2

If you doesn't have the required item for the mission, they will give you that item but you can only use it exclusively to finish that mission

[indigo gorge]

Just had a match against a joker and I couldn't burst his balloons, also why does this game not just use a normal dodge mechanic, sick of seeing dodged and still being hit.

[coral bolt]

That's a really neat idea

[kind inlet]

taunts and emotes are somehow not working. they only use the default taunt despite changing it in the menu

[steady gazelle]

heavily decrease the damage of mojo jojo’s laser on townsville, it is basically a one hit

[jade oar]

i think this channel is more fit for this idk

[dim spindle]

Ok i tried ... i played the beta since launch and never stopped playing even after it was shut down
Them i played the full release since launch till today
Bad decisions , bugs and bla bla bla
1 or 2 good recent updates
But i am bored , i dont have enough to unlock a new character (i unlocked 2 since launch)
Local sucks because the characters arent unlocked
And there is no offline
Grinding like crazy
And so much more terrible things like hitboxes and stupid attack priority

I really tried loving this game ... i really did , but its still worse then the beta

Im going back to brawlhalla

Im sorry mvs and multiversers
I tried

I had endless fun with the beta , i am not having fun rn 😅

[wind wedge]

this game was better in beta and its trash flip tony and all pfg dev

[coral bolt]

the characters are literally unlocked on local tho. I agree with everything else

[coral bolt]

that's not constructive criticism. That's just hate

[dim spindle]

The greedy tactics dont bother me , but it hit me wrong i guess

[dim spindle]

They are unlocked in training , not local

[wind wedge]

cuz i hate this game its not like how it was

they runied it

and tony is a blad loser

[dim spindle]

Unless they recently updated it

[coral bolt]

They aren't? 💀

[dim spindle]

Nop

[wind wedge]

i havent had so many disconnects in my life

[dim spindle]

I blame warner bros honestly

I can put myself in tonys position causs im a game dev (for myself only for now)

And it really sucks if someone doesnt like your game. But the reasons are so valid you cant get angry or sad about it

[dim spindle]

That too

I know brawlhalla is basic, but its perfectly competitive imo

Its at least faster that mvs rn 😂

[coral bolt]

You think I don't? The game isn't nearly as fun as it was in the beta and they nerfed my favorite character to the point he's bottom tier. That's still not an excuse for inexplicable hatred.

[dim spindle]

I wish i had the switch for super smash bros
Or a pc to get project m

[jade oar]

now that i think about it maybe this is more of a bug report?

[dim spindle]

I main jake , garnet , steven and bugs

Steven is way too god rn
Bugs is broken
Jake is in the perfect spot
But garnet? ... we dont talk about her

[dim spindle]

True

[wind wedge]

yea that shows how much of this game is going down hill how can you enjoy a game even more in the beta but then when the full launch comes out its even worse its disappointing and sad i am very much disappointed on how this turned out and if it keeps going like this were there gonna add rifts witch are terrible imo the games gonna be gone by fall

[winged jungle]

This it's just hating for hate ngl

The gampley himself it's better now compared to the beta

[dim spindle]

I wish this game came out with more care for the players like the beta had

The beta respected our time AND MONEY even tho it had some little greedyness

Now its shameless , its overpriced and it expects us to play all day everyday

As if some of us dont have jobs or sht

[coral bolt]

I mean, that's completely subjective but I can assure that most people enjoyed the beta way more than the actual release.

[grand meteor]

Multiversus feedback

Custom game and local game change:

• local and custom games will have all perks and characters unlocked.

General change:

• PvP wins should grant us some fighters currency like 25 fighters currency even if minimal it's something.

• Reduce the cost of perks they are quite expensive I had like 38k perk currency yet it's around 4 characters to get the perks then feeling like I barely have enough for like 3 more characters.

• Buff jason his signature perks are not great like in previous comments resurrectionist just makes jason 1 shot with 5 seconds plus you know where he appears so he just dies ( either start him with his grey hp from his neutral special full charge or atleast extend or remove the duration.)

His monstrous sidestep only works 1 time on any half decent player. Make it once you connect it stun them enough for a free hit on the other side on the tp thst way if jason just does it without hitting you he gets put in a bad position however if hit it would be insane for combos.

• Jason's hitbox for his side attack feels weird like I do the attack but it won't hit coz they always hit me before.

• when will we see end of game results?

[winged jungle]

I say it for the fact that on the open beta the whole meta was "spamming airdodge with no consequences"

Now the moves have actual impact

[dim spindle]

Nah m8 , its hating cuz it was good before , and now its disrespectful to us players

I really tried liking the game
But everytime i hop on i feel bad for playing somehow

I had fun once and that was yesterday , i played all morning , then a game crash after i remembered why it sucks rn , i got instantly turned off

[winged jungle]

You play on pc?

[coral bolt]

That's something that bothered me too. This game was clearly designed for people who not absolutely nothing to do. You need to play (or may I say, grind) all day just to unlock some rewards and don't get me started with the battlepass.

[dim spindle]

I agree

Also add a smaller hitbox or faster movement for garnet , she is a punching bag rn

[dim spindle]

Ps4

[dim spindle]

40 hours of game play for 1 character still baffles me

150 hours to unlock most charcters

I think

I saw a video about this

It explained every major problem

[winged jungle]

Zetta?

[fossil belfry]

Wasn't that Star Wars Battlefront? I would say at the rate we get Character Currency being even slower

[dim spindle]

I dont think the game will die , but the players will fall drastically ,as they did already

But my hope for the game kinda lost ...

[dim spindle]

I think so , overwatch 2 had a bad decision on trying to monitize characters and it got destroyed so hard by the community that all characters are free now

And it still has way to little players

[dim spindle]

Wha?

[grand meteor]

True

[winged jungle]

Idk why they decided to increase the price of the characters, on the open beta this was one of his greatest things:

• For a recommended character: 1500 coins
• For a medium character: 2000 coins
• For an Expert character: 3000 coins

you can get like 2 or 3 recommended characters in just 2 days of playing

[fossil belfry]

We could also earn Gold playing so it was better indeed

[winged jungle]

My guy, the game even give you 100 coins for just login in

it was that good the monetization

[dim spindle]

Tho i think mvs is a bit slower on getting characters
Bc of 1 thing

Its limmited , if you make the math after a couple seasons it will be inpossible to get the released characters because of the limit per season on character currency you get

This season you can get like 7 or 8 characters if you do all missions , finish the bp and the events (assuming new events give the same ammout of currency)

If you continue playing there will be less and less currency after seasons meaning one day its literally going to be inpossible to unlock another character

[dim spindle]

Yup , the game was good back then , i wish i could uninstall the update and play the beta on my ps4

But thats it guys , my rants , my motive for playing , my determination all went down the drane

I tried loving the game , but im not having fun anymore

I hope the game gets better later , but rn im out

Im not playing anymore

[winged jungle]

Hot take

The tooniverse variants should NOT be purchable costumes, its fits even more perfectly if they were the reward for getting to lvl 15 with a Character

[jade oar]

this

or if they up the max lvl so its like 20 idk

[dim spindle]

Not hot take honestly. Fits perfectly

[winged jungle]

Yeah

They are too simple for being purchable

But at the same time, not that simple for being a "free" skin

So making them the reward for actually playing the game fits pretty well

[dim spindle]

And another thing. Fps drops still happen in 2v2s on ps4 AND PS5

me and my friend at launch tried playing and he quit cuz of fps drops so hard it felt like old arcade animations

Then after some updates he gave the game A SECOND CHANCE and it blew

It still sucks
The game was made for 2v2 and now it feels like its made for 1v1

[winged jungle]

idk why the optimization sucks on playstation and xbox

I heard some people saying that MVS just ported the game from pc to the consoles and just changed the controls

But yeah, i will be playing the game until i unlock Uber Jason

After that, i will just stop playing lol

[prisma jungle]

Combos are abundant in the thinking anything like Instant Air dash, stuff like that

[fervent heart]

You should make it so instead of saying ends “June 16” which is too ambiguous, when it enters 24 hours change it to ends in X hours for events.

[nimble pendant]

Day one: Add back in Swapping Side/Neutral Air/Ground in the controls!

[fossil belfry]

Indeed a countdown would be neat to be added specially for other regions

[ivory mirage]

Not making dumb challenges where you are forced to buy a specific skin or character
Or at the very least give us like a 1 day pass to use a character for a challenge…..like right now, I’m not buying Velma just to do 1 specific challenge in the Batman v. joker event

[shy belfry]

FIX SERVER LATENCY

[soft swan]

iron giant cant die until 300 hp

[digital kraken]

fighter currency feels SO slow to obtain.
ive been playing for roughly 9 hours and have only got 2.07k fighter currency
9 hours into minutes is 540 minutes
lets say each game is 5 minutes long
thats 108 GAMES WITHOUT A SINGLE NEW CHARACTER

there is NOTHING i can do about this either. ive finished basically every non-timegated thing, and ive only been able to buy 1 character, which is bugs

[topaz iris]

this patch was great

[topaz iris]

its free

theres gonna be a grind

[digital kraken]

the issue with this is that it feels so slow compared to beta

and the fact that getting the new fighters costs 6k fighter currency

theres no way (apart from bp (paid) or events) to get a reliable amount of fighter currency

[topaz iris]

i doubt they will fix this

[digital kraken]

which makes it a genuine struggle to get the newer ish characters on release since youll either have to grind 2 entire battle passes to get 1 of the newer characters

[topaz iris]

im just coping with the greed

[digital kraken]

true

they fixed the bp stuff but i would love if a single match gave you like 10 fighter currency on a win

it would actually feel like youre getting something for winning

[topaz iris]

ill admit this greedy stuff i really am coping hard about the game is fun but its so predatory

[digital kraken]

real honestly

[topaz iris]

facts means more players would keep playing

[digital kraken]

i love how they made the 6k characters 1350 gleamium

so you have to spend £20

[topaz iris]

jesus

[digital kraken]

because theres no 1350 gleamium option

its actually stupid

[topaz iris]

you could get a new game with that

[digital kraken]

£10 is 750 gleamium iirc

😭

[topaz iris]

the gleamum prices are insane

[digital kraken]

fr

[topaz iris]

beta i think it was like 5 bucks for some skins and 15 for legendary

[digital kraken]

i was wrong

£8 is 1000 and £16 is 2200

oh my god wait thats so predatory

[topaz iris]

atleast make characters cost maybe 15 dollars but even then you should be able to unlock characters for playing atleast 3 or 5 hours

[digital kraken]

1250 + 1250 = 2500

so yoy HAVE to spend £25 for 2 newer characters

thats insane bro

[digital kraken]

on god

honestly there shouldnt even be a perk currency

what purpose does it give

if you played in beta

i have 50k perk currency

[topaz iris]

if you spam the button to get through rift diolouge be carful cause it will take you to the store and you may buy a skin on accident

[digital kraken]

am i ever gonna use it all up? no not really

[digital kraken]

thats only on pc

and they got sued about it im pretty sure

[topaz iris]

lol

nice

[digital kraken]

wait actually

talking about perks

what the hell is the point for needing 3 custom sets???

like

dude no one has ever needed to swap perks midgame

[topaz iris]

like the battle pass progression is alright it could be better but character currency and other unlocks suck

[stone jasper]

if you want different set to swap to?

[topaz iris]

theres so little perks

[digital kraken]

its unnessecery though

and since you dont get all 3 sets immediantly

its incredibly forgettable

[stone jasper]

i have one with air walker and another one with a different perk

[topaz iris]

plus all sweats will do is use one thats meta

so you switched out one perk

[digital kraken]

im happy they addressed the very slow bp stuff

[stone jasper]

yes

so i can have

two different sets

not hard to understand

[digital kraken]

anyway hot take

parrying a projectile should reflect it

i should not need to use a perk slot to do that

its a parry its not a block

i get punished for parrying projectiles more often than it actually does anything for me

[topaz iris]

whe you could just switch the one perk

i miss stripes 3rd perk after midnight

[stone jasper]

so i can swap mid game

[digital kraken]

this game was not tested good at all what 😭 😭

i rebound all my stuff last night

[glacial basin]

Sunday enjoyer with the bad take 😭

[digital kraken]

ive logged back on

its all back to normal 😭

[digital kraken]

a large majority of the players dont even rematch

youll barely get to use it

[glacial basin]

You can use it at the start of every match?

Not just at rematches

So you can use a Armor break perk Set against WW as example when you get matched with one

[flint yacht]

Are we going to get more perks in Alpha?

[topaz iris]

i just use my characters best build and what suits me

[digital kraken]

you know what?
ive actually never thought about it that way

isnt there barely any useable armor break perks though

[glacial basin]

Most of the time my Reflexes are faster than my brain and I use the Standard Set but a armor break perk Set against WW makes it way easier

[glacial basin]

There are some good one

[topaz iris]

everyone is just harley today

i thought she was nerfed but shes still annoying

[digital kraken]

they nerfed the combo side of her

really badly too

[glacial basin]

They only nerfed the slide

[digital kraken]

no

they nerfed the up light

it has 10 more frames of endlag on hit iirc

something like that

along with nerfing the slide

basically means after uplight you cant do a thing 😭

[glacial basin]

Yeah but harley mains told me the up special is more buffed then nerfed

[digital kraken]

hold on

[glacial basin]

Because the knockback that got buffed is op

[topaz iris]

yes

[minor shore]

rethink black adams down air cause why can i hit people behind me and not even touch them?😂

[topaz iris]

yes it is

[glacial basin]

Only nerf is the slide

[digital kraken]

not at all trust me 😭

if you want

i can send you a video of what you could do before the patch

since i dont think i can post links here

[glacial basin]

I played harley to level 10 before the patch

Through 1vs1 matches

[digital kraken]

lv 15 for me

i labbed her for like a few hours though

[glacial basin]

I was bored after level 10 she was too broken

[minor shore]

i hope yall really look at hitboxes cause there are to many that need major tweaking. im just throwing out black adam moves and they hit theres no way he is meant to be hard

[winter sapphire]

report button would be great

[topaz iris]

lol why cause you lost

or someone used the salt emote

hes combo food lol

[winter sapphire]

no because of teammates throwing the game

[topaz iris]

bros huge you can combo him like crazy

[winter sapphire]

I got into a match and my Harley Quinn teammate just jumped straight off the edge

[topaz iris]

thats fair actually

cause if he died early he would be awful to play

i can get giant at around 50 with one combo

hell joker can combo and kill him early

[winter sapphire]

us iron giants absorb so much damage because we simply do not believe in the dodge button

[glacial basin]

No iron giant I played against lived longer than 180%

Thats a you problem then

[glacial basin]

1vs1 or 2vs2

Oh idk about 2vs2

[topaz iris]

your bad if your having this much trouble with a huge hit box who you playing btw

TWOS IS EVEN WORSE FOR HIM

LOL

[glacial basin]

I think he is really good in 2vs2 because his teammate can Cover for his flaws

[minor shore]

black adams hit stun on his moves is a bit ridiculous. also he recovers instantly after getting hit. and his hitboxes are ridiculous as well. his f-air hits above and behind him? his d-air hits all around him even his backside? been playing around with more characters just to see what kind of cheese you can pull and even without the loop he can lock people in a spot where he just frame traps you for free. not much skill required cause his hits are huge and his endlag for wif is non existent. id look into that cause it was very easy to just trap someone into getting hit by d-air or f-air. still think people missing atks and then being able to throw out another one due to lack of end lag on moves is an issue for him and other characters. And if there is end lag it really doesnt feel like it.

[glacial basin]

I never played 2vs2 so I cant say anything about it

[topaz iris]

idk dudes huge and if your teamate is good he will focus on igs team mate

[glacial basin]

Cant say I dont play 2vs2 just a thought

But I personally dont have problems against him you just need to kill him upwards

[faint granite]

Please nerf Taz's up special and side special. There's little start up frames on both and there is no other way to counter it except avoid it. The side special's hitbox seems ridiculous most of the time as well.

[minor shore]

aint no way you asking for nerfs on something that dont kill past 100

[eternal moon]

⚠️GET RID OF MOJO JOJO ⚠️

[south shore]

gaimon D chest

buff lebron

!!!!

[glacial basin]

Piplup with the best takes

[faint granite]

The damage it does overall is insane which then quickly leads to being at 100. The move can easily be spammed.

[glacial basin]

Not the damage the uptime needs a nerf

[boreal lion]

Try using a projectile or outranging it

[topaz iris]

so if your team mate focuses on the other teammate and rings the out then its a 2 v 1 against a hit box

[boreal lion]

They aren't unbearable attacks you just gotta approach it right

[glacial basin]

Doesnt the teammate respawn in 2vs2?

[swift bramble]

does anyone know how the PVP event EXP works? It feels really inconsistent how much i get per win... some games i get like ~250 and some games ill get ~300

is it based on damage done or KOs?

[minor shore]

you can hit him out of both you play shaggy and velma you literally can armor him out of both. even basic hits can pop him out of it. taz gets out ranged very easily and you can force him to chase you and punish him

[minor shore]

think its dmg but ive been geeting 11xp, 8xp, and so on so dont take my word for it lol

[swift bramble]

so can most characters in this game, whats your point?

[full mango]

its back

[faint granite]

I've tried using projectiles and basic attacks. Velma's projectiles require a bit of predicting to hit them and every time I try to use side air attacks or side down attack I get hit first.

[winged estuary]

Yee i saw, dunno why they removed it but glad it's back

[faint granite]

You can't hit her projectiles while she's on the side wall of the stage trying to avoid up special or side special.

[full mango]

ikr and he barely has any skins as is lol

[faint granite]

In this case too I've tried lightbulb but Taz's attack register before that too

[winged estuary]

Yeah, their emote kinda sucks for taunts

[stone rose]

this game feels extremely slow, like every move is intentionally slowed down

like

[winged estuary]

I want new emotes for BG

[stone rose]

every move is in artificial slowmow

[full mango]

agreed

we should make a new one lol

[eternal moon]

Can we bring back attack decay lol

[stone rose]

make everything faster please

[full mango]

but how else are shaggy, harrley, BG, IG, and so many others going to spam the same move over and over again then T-bag??

[subtle mesa]

I feel like this has to be a bug of some kind. I am standing right in front of enemies just standing there and lots of times Arya's rapier just doesn't land.

[glacial basin]

The game is intentionally slow

[stone rose]

yeah thats what i mean

it feels like it's FORCED slowness

not just slow

[full mango]

-every beta player

[stone rose]

smash ultimate is faster, make it like that

not melee that is just too fast

[subtle mesa]

Like in her side attack combo, sometimes it will drop because she will swing and it just won't conenct. And it'd be one thing if they were crouched or short characters but I'm trying to hit characters like Batman or Superman and even Iron Giant and it's just not conencting.

[glacial basin]

Just play smash then?

[stone rose]

smash ultimate doesnt have warner bros characters

let me know when it does

[glacial basin]

The game doesnt want to have the same speed as smash

[subtle mesa]

^

[eternal moon]

Thats so true they would be hopeless lol

[stone rose]

it is slower than BRAWL which is baby mode for ultra casuals

do any of you remember smash bros brawl?

or too young for that

[subtle mesa]

Had the same problem Sugawara.

[glacial basin]

I play smash since 64

So yeah

I do

[stone rose]

yes if multiversus was even as fast as 64 that would be much better

[full mango]

he's a big iron piñata:D (fr tho his 0-death and a bunch of early kills are annoying not just his tankiness bc that can be countered)

[stone rose]

just feels like it's forced slowness for people who suck at video games

[eternal moon]

I do agree with a IG nerf but he still feels beatable if you just play patiently but yea he still should’ve had more time out to be reworked

[glacial basin]

But it doesnt want to be that fast it wants to be a slow game so it won't get faster,

[stone rose]

the game isnt a person

lmao

[glacial basin]

The devs are persons

[stone rose]

ok my feedback is to make them want it to be faster

that is what feedback is for

[glacial basin]

Ok "make them want to make it faster" is a funny feedback

[stone rose]

lol

idk why but when i first started playing the game felt faster then the latest patch made it slower

maybe it's all in my head

[minor shore]

-taz down air. i cant even come down with it. it just feels to floaty and trying to come down with it to spike feels horrible. its like when you use it you slow down and feel floaty. I miss his old down air. even if there is more end lag or w.e yall did to it so people dont get chained into down airs (that dont even chain unless you make the choice to not dodge) can you at least make it so we can descend down faster again cause it feels bad to use. bigger or not it just feels bad trying to come down on people.

[glacial basin]

The beta was faster but the full Release never was

[minor shore]

no it does feel slower

[stone rose]

i never played the beta

[glacial basin]

Then its in your head

[full mango]

when you get better at the game theres so many things thats happening it feels faster and you need to be constantly thinking

[stone rose]

i played the full release day 1

[minor shore]

some of the movement feels off

[stone rose]

yeah i knew i wasnt alone

super strange

they fix xbox performance, cool, but now the gameplay is...stiff and slower

????

[glacial basin]

Off yeah but not slower just more stiff?

[stone rose]

kinda, yeah

[swift bramble]

I have been experiencing a lot of frame drops when I go from the End Game screen back to the main menu on PC. Anyone else getting that too?

[stone rose]

it's something

i hope pfg sees this

[eternal moon]

Can we nerf bugs like why is his bat so strong and his moveset is so spamable too another reason why we need to bring back attack decay

[swift bramble]

allegedly they do lurk

[rapid plover]

I want Reindog to have skins that resemble other animals. Give me a kitty cat Reindog. Please and thank you.

[swift bramble]

its the same as joker up air tho

[stone rose]

i want a character that is literally just a cat

:3

[glacial basin]

Awesome take please do that pfg

[minor shore]

yeah ever since launch

[swift bramble]

ive died to both off the top at like 60 from bugs/joker up air

[swift bramble]

only started this new patch

[eternal moon]

Thats so true I honestly don’t understand why they took out so many good game mechanics

[glacial basin]

I want a fast swordie in the game as a smash Player I dont like the roster not being 50% swordies

[minor shore]

there is a shark one i like the ideas be cool to see more for holidays/seasons

[swift bramble]

i cant believe they removed so many perks and the ability to airdodge after and air attack

[glacial basin]

Like give me a character that plays like roy or Lucina

[minor shore]

please stop as a taz there are already enough disjoints for me to deal with. let alone everyone outspaces me with regular atks at this point T.T

[swift bramble]

everything is a commitment in this game and has so much recovery and end lag

[swift bramble]

fym??? I beat disjoints with side special all the time

i can see pearl being a good marth clone

[glacial basin]

Taz needs a buff in attack Power and a nerf in Attack uptime

[minor shore]

that means they ran into you lol

[swift bramble]

ive beat harley hammer mid swing

[glacial basin]

Samurai Jack will hopefully be fast

[swift bramble]

full active hitbox

[minor shore]

side special doesnt beat disjoints your enemy just ran into you or didnt have move out in time

[swift bramble]

yeah jack isnt known for his reach tho so thats good

hes got the shmovement tho

he "jump good"

[glacial basin]

Yeah he needs to be a fast short to mid ranged swordie

[swift bramble]

so arya?

[glacial basin]

No like lucina or roy

Arya isnt a swordie

[swift bramble]

roy still has range tho

[glacial basin]

Mid range yeah

[swift bramble]

its just the closer hitbox does more damage and knockback

so youre inscentivised to get in their face

lucina is a true mid range where her whole sword is a consistent hitbox

where as marth has long range sweet spot and opposite for roy

[glacial basin]

Yeah I hate playing Marth please make him similar to roy

Or mythra

[swift bramble]

mythra has everything except recovery

thats their gimmick

[swift bramble]

as a melee player i wouldnt mind seeing Pearl be the tipper marth stand in

[glacial basin]

Yeah but only mythra fast and short range

Good with combos

[swift bramble]

i want more multihits in this game

i like multihits

make my brain go brrrrrrrrrrr

[minor sail]

What am I reading pearl Martha!?!? Who ?!?

[glacial basin]

I need a Melee fox

[swift bramble]

Pearl from steven universe

[minor sail]

Ah

[swift bramble]

i mean hes all around the cast

[winter sapphire]

I just realised we do still have the reporting but it's only for people on the leaderboard??? can we bring it back to players in match thanks

[swift bramble]

falco down air on taz, banana guard sex kick, etc

[swift bramble]

wait what?

oh yeah you just have to go to "recent" in the social tab

I do it all the time when I see racist names

[glacial basin]

What about a brawl meta knight or Ice climbers

[swift bramble]

i think gumball and darwin would be good IC standins

cause its really hard to seperate them

YOOOOO i want Nicole Waterson, she already knows martial arts

[winter sapphire]

oh that's so silly 💀, thank you id of never found that

[swift bramble]

lol np

[glacial basin]

I want a Willy wonka

[swift bramble]

please no, im so sick of Timothy Charlamane

[glacial basin]

Or Ben10

[swift bramble]

Ben10 was already leaked wasnt he?

[glacial basin]

There isnt Code about him

In the game

[swift bramble]

coulda sworn i saw something about it

idk maybe not

ya its super ez to do tho

[glacial basin]

4 character are leaked

But none of them are ben10

[eternal moon]

Can we buff jason he is pretty much hopeless against most of his match ups I get that his up air and up special are good in battle but in recovery it feels like it doesn’t go anywhere

[fierce hinge]

The grind in this game is just absolutely ridiculous

[glacial basin]

How so

[swift bramble]

btw yall you can do a break the targets type game and just repeatedly lose to get gem EXP

if youre struggling with that

[fierce hinge]

Have you not tried to get fighter currency yet?

You get enough from the battle pass to get like one character a season

[glacial basin]

Not really but ik its hard I just wanted to know what exactly you were talking about

[fierce hinge]

That and the battle pass

You have to do basically all daily challenges every day of the season

Just to complete the pass

[minor shore]

there truly is not enough end lag for alot of the cast spamming after wif is still just the best option for so many people and the weird hits boxes make it hard to punish at times

[glacial basin]

Thats the purpose of a battle pass to grind for it

And complete it only at the last days of the season

[fierce hinge]

Yeah but it's too much of a grind

I can understand having to do like 60-70% of the challenges

[glacial basin]

Not really many people are already halfway through (70 was max right)

Or 80?

[fierce hinge]

70

I still think xp could be boosted a little

[rapid plover]

Hey man it's beeen a while how's it been

[fierce hinge]

Burnouts gonna kill this game again

[glacial basin]

But then it would be too easy you can finish the pass at the end of the season already even if you miss some dailys

[fierce hinge]

You should be able to finish the pass while missing SOME dailies lol

[glacial basin]

And you are

[rapid plover]

I mean we're like 2 weeks in out of the 2 months we have and a fair few people are already halfway done

despite there being 0 way to earn exp outside of dailies

now that we get 50 per win, it's much better

[minor shore]

?

[fierce hinge]

Yeah I'm thinking that it's gonna be a lot better now cause of that

[glacial basin]

Its easier than leveling the FN battle pass as example

[fierce hinge]

This games not Fortnite though

[glacial basin]

It was just the first game that came into my mind that also has a battle pass

[rapid plover]

I'm SCL

[minor shore]

i feel like i know you. you make the art right?

[glacial basin]

Just wanted to say with that, that its easier to level this pass already than leveling the pass in other games

[fierce hinge]

What's gonna happen and you're seeing it already in articles is that this game with the same grind as fortnite is going to feel a LOT more repetitive than fortnite

[minor shore]

lmao sup. i know aguy named timmy that makes art and plays mvs

[rapid plover]

that's kinda funny

yea I started playing card games

so eventually people started calling me a timmy

[fierce hinge]

And I love this game and I enjoy it way more than fortnite but to the average person this is going to feel like a mobile game

[glacial basin]

Thing is the pass is the smallest problem the game has😭

[fierce hinge]

I'm aware

The fighter currency ridiculousness is a way bigger issue that could be fixed if they just gave you a way to buy enough of it to unlock everybody

Within a reasonable price point like $40-50

[glacial basin]

The game will die before they do anything with the pass if they don't fix it and add ranked in the next month

[fierce hinge]

I think ranked is soon

[glacial basin]

I hope so but if they don't fix the bugs and exploits before that it will be a disaster

[fierce hinge]

And the swap side and neutral

Game feels awful without it now

[full mango]

why?

[pulsar spire]

I feel like there has to he more ways to earn currency

[fierce hinge]

During the beta I used it so that jabs were neutral

Like in smash

[glacial basin]

Yes they said they add it I hope it will be soon

[pulsar spire]

Its hard to buy characters

[full mango]

ohh okay cool

[fierce hinge]

It should've just been like that by default imo

[eternal moon]

#nerfblackadam

[fierce hinge]

Like that's how every other platform fighter controls why would you change that one thing

[full mango]

it takes 39,250 to get all characters (excluding shaggy) which is $320

[fierce hinge]

Yeah it's insane

And I don't understand how anybody could argue in favor for that that's insane

[full mango]

agreed

it takes sooooo long to get a character with fighter currency too

[fierce hinge]

How much fighter currency does mastery give you?

600 right?

[full mango]

ive done every battlepass (tier 40), mission (daily, weekly and event), and rift (including insanity) and only got 3 characters

[fierce hinge]

15,600 for mastering all characters

[full mango]

yeah

[fierce hinge]

How much gleamium do they give?

[full mango]

150

3900 in all

[fierce hinge]

So enough to get one more character

Or no 3

So you get enough to get half the roster through playing

[indigo gorge]

I think they have screwed up horribly. You wouldn't buy cosmetics for characters you don't own.

[fierce hinge]

Yeah

[full mango]

you need to master 1.6 characters just to get 1 new character (not including glemium)

[fierce hinge]

Plus would you rather when someone gets bored of the characters they have access to just quit the game?

[indigo gorge]

Anybody confused why we already got events repeating. Seems dumb.

[full mango]

1 repeated recently and 1 more is going to repeat

[indigo gorge]

But its the level characters one again, I'm debating just waiting till it drops to grind again.

[full mango]

the 2 that repeat are the 2 stupidest ones

the level up one is worse for better players that need more to level up characters and top dog has nothing to do with skill, confusing, and depending on what leaderboard you get is how easy it is

[coral bolt]

exactly. I swear PFG loves punishing people who play their game

[full mango]

frrr

[coral bolt]

Power pledge 2 is going to suck

[full mango]

the first one i got over the max and this time idk if i'll even get half way

plus if you cant unlock enough characters its so much harder to get there

[stiff swallow]

Going to repost this daily until it gets acknowledged by a dev

Please add an offline mode. The game being always online guarantees the game will be unplayable when Warner Bros decides to pull the plug. The beta had an offline mode, but it strangely disappeared during this full release. I bought a Founders Pack during this era, but I am not comfortable putting any more money into this game until an offline mode is added and assuring it won't become unplayable when support stops.

Tony Huynh and everyone else at PFG, please show that the name "Player First" Games isn't just for show, and add an offline mode.

[minor shore]

fix fins hitboxes as well his hitboxes are big. you can down air someone that isnt under you. and his hits on ground can hit people that arent touched by the actual animation. hit boxes/ hurt boxes feel bad all around honestly. and couple that with the lack of endlag on so much it just starts feeling "not fun" lol

[swift bramble]

also his hitstun makes his combos braindead

[full mango]

you should set up a macro or smth to make it easier

[swift bramble]

just attack, attack, air side special, attack, attack, dead

[swift bramble]

we all know the reason for it tho. the producered pressured devs to release the product or scrap it entirely

[full mango]

or: up special --> up special --> up special etc

[swift bramble]

classic higher exec corporate greed

people that dont play games making decisions for games ammiright? 🤡

[minor shore]

my bad i typed a curse word lol

[full mango]

:0 not a curse word

[minor shore]

lol very braindead. im making stuff* up just cause i can and it hits. idk how finn players are crying knock up kick up special and its a free kill. and side special just makes it easier lol

[swift bramble]

air side special makes fin STUPID easy to confirm off stray hits

[minor shore]

and he can spam freely on the ground and his moves poke further then animated

[swift bramble]

idk about THAT id have to do some testing

[full mango]

same with IG and joker

[swift bramble]

and also character specific hurtboxes might affect it as well

[full mango]

and a few others

[swift bramble]

less IG deff joker tho

[full mango]

if you go against a good IG you die at 20

[swift bramble]

at least jokers doesnt track like fin

[full mango]

fair

joker>>finn

[swift bramble]

eh idk about that

[minor shore]

i would rather hitboxes and hurtboxes get tuned before any balancing please cause they arent there man. ww down air is a prime example ive been spiked from being to her side. and poeple smacking the ground at the edge hitting people of the edge is just gross lol

[swift bramble]

id say where pretty == tier wise

[full mango]

joker has a high skill ceiling but a higher skill floor

[swift bramble]

yes and no, you dont even need to utilize all his moves to be good

with fin you can literally just hit buttons and do things

while slobbering all over your controller

[full mango]

yeah hes better for newer players but in general i think joker is better

[swift bramble]

i still have to find a proper use for grounded down special as joker tho

cause once people see the cape they dip

[full mango]

do it behind you than

or for edge guarding

[glacial basin]

The canon has really good range way more than it looks

[eternal moon]

I feel like weekly missions need to be more equal since sometimes it says to get kos with a character that I haven’t unlocked yet and the grind for character shards is tidious as hell, I feel like they should make it with whatever character it says to play put them in the weekly rotation of characters to play from

[fierce hinge]

This

What kind of gacha game mechanic is needing to have a joker t shirt skin or own joker to get more xp

[eternal moon]

Yeah it’s frustrating since whenever I unlock the character and finish the mission I will most likely never touch that character again a waste of 3k shards and since my mission needs joker even a bigger waste of 6k shards

[fierce hinge]

It's a total waste to buy joker right now with fighter currency

[minor breach]

I found a bug with Gizmo, I don't exactly know what causes it but it seems to be related to the car breaking (maybe with gizmo inside it). And after it happens it prevents Gizmo from jumping and dodging entirely, but I can dodge in the air which is weird. the bug continues to go on until the match ends entirely and after that its just like nothing happened

[full mango]

it happens so much its annoying. when it starts the car wont be able to move either and when it breaks you can jump or dodge. later in the match youll be able to jump but only while holding your arrow (but the jump is delayed) or in the air (sometimes)

[glacial basin]

I'm a gacha games Player and not even they have missions like that

[hollow wadi]

Is anyone else having a glitch where emotes just don't work? It resets my emotes on every character in the game when I close multiversus, and even if i set them again they don't work. No matter what button I press for emotes it just does the default taunt for every slot.

[young thicket]

Nerf jason please

[drowsy bough]

are you buggin

why would they nerf the worst character in the game lol

[devout pine]

he needs a buff rn

nerf iron giant AGAIN and WW

[strong cove]

pls make it so velma keeps her evidence meter after death 🙏

[drowsy bough]

preach

[chrome yacht]

anyone else unable to not party up after the patch?

[red badge]

Fix 2v2 on ps4 pla

Pls

[glacial basin]

yes it always does the basic one for me

[hollow wadi]

WW on bob

[fierce hinge]

I hope they make the FFA playlist stock

Time sucks

[pallid siren]

Yo there are bots grinding to #1

This steam profile is a bunch of #'s in my group

It's a bot

So stupid.

Fix this

I can send screenshots

DM me if you care.

[potent steppe]

how did they do all these nerfs but bugs can just carry you all the way across the map with his nair?

just had a bugs do it 5x in a row

[hexed oracle]

Anyone else experiencing huge lag jumps? A buddy and I were just in 2v2s and it literally changed the outcome of the match, and both of us experienced it

[toxic stratus]

Theyre not bots bro

[eternal moon]

I bought the bugs announcer pack, and now i cant swap off of banners in the Account Cosmetics section

[pallid siren]

I'll show you lol, it's a bot on steam.

[tulip bison]

It's nice that you can see most items under profile icons and banners now too, but I don't see why this wouldn't also be provided for ringouts.

[toxic stratus]

I saw ur screenshot. THats just protection for steam users!

[fossil belfry]

I am sorry but what is this silly "sports attire" mission suddenly doing in the current event? Like, what?

[tulip bison]

(In case you didn't see it, Jason counts as wearing sports attire.)

[fossil belfry]

whaaaat

[tulip bison]

Hockey Mask.

[toxic stratus]

Gooball said Im dumb LOL

in PM

[fossil belfry]

Pfffffftt well ok I will take it cause otherwise I am cooked.

Like new players that didn't buy the battlepass am I right?

[toxic stratus]

B U F F J A K E

[tulip bison]

Yeah, they probably should have picked a time when someone with sports attire was on the rotation to do that quest.

But then again, people without the Joker can't fully finish weekly missions either.

[fossil belfry]

Yeah new people having to or get tricked to dedicate currency for those is quite unhealthy.

I didn't know about Weeklies remaining after the week released so I purchased Steven due to a mission. So now an actual event asks to get LeBron. And Joker. That's already 9k on objectives.

I have earned so far 13.5k currency. Kinda lame to be railed like that :/

[stray needle]

Jasons bag rlly needs a rewok

as a Jason main

I never use that move

like

ever

[eternal moon]

Fr

[stray needle]

maybe making it faster but having a cooldown

[cinder topaz]

why does stripes gun have actual gun physics, aka hitting another person or something in the way if an opponent is targeted, but his down neutral doesn't? i think it just applies a hitbox on the boombox.

[azure hemlock]

In 2v2s, the frame rate drops horrendously (feels like 20, could be 30) as soon as people begin moving.

It begins feeling quite literally unplayable as a result, including the increased risk that you can’t react to anything and can very easily just fall off the map (or even run off) because of how delayed your inputs become.

[inland basalt]

to do a quest it makes u pay for a top so u got to spend money i did that now it says i need the same out fit on a tank skin so now i need by a tank and a 500 gem skin for it

[half condor]

Remove Townsville
Remove Court
Remove GoT map

[strong cove]

remove cromulons

[autumn laurel]

Remove 2v2

[half condor]

REMOVE TOWNSVILLE

[cinder topaz]

same..

[weak badge]

Why you guys focus on that the missions are not even worth the xp just play and have fun you are not forced to finish all the quests

[potent flare]

SOOOOOO WHEN WE REMOVING THIS GAME BREAKING BUG IN THE GAME WITH BUGS BUNNY???? LITERALLY CANNOT WIN AGAINST A CHARACTER WITH NO RECOVERY FRAMES ON ANY MOVE

[inland basalt]

BUGS ISnt hard to beat

[balmy thicket]

Seriously, I cant complete the rifts because whenever me and my friend load up on the Rick and Morty Match we get a Desynch every time

[empty gulch]

gizmo glitches

please fix there so many

[unkempt aurora]

is there a region lock now?

cant seem to invite a friend from north america

but i can invite my buddy from here

[balmy thicket]

No, I'm playing with a friend in Europe, and the only issue we have is the Rick and Morty fight in rifts keeps crashing his game and desynching me

All the other matches are fine

[bitter bramble]

*given that you are playing another one if the top 5 characters and maybe sometimes shaggy

[bitter bramble]

are you two crossplatform? Me and a friend of mine couldn't invite eachother until we both turned on crossplay.

[inland basalt]

nope i play harley whos combos are actully hard and after nerf she terrible when i go agenst her i win evey time and na i just pick random people bro i beat bugs with lebron

who u play

[bitter bramble]

i play shaggy, and the only way shaggy beats bugs is if he's using hangry man and uses it to get early rage, and even thats dependant on how much brainpower the bugs wants to use

[unkempt aurora]

yeah we're both on pc

[bitter bramble]

and again, harley has a bigg friggn hammer that beats out p much of everything bugs has

[bitter bramble]

you might check if you have your own region locks set

last time i checked you can select servers outside of auto or sumn

i might be smokin sumn tho

[unkempt aurora]

you can now?

ill check

[bitter bramble]

i might be wrong

but i swear you could back in beta

[eternal moon]

We need more maps without floating platforms they’re honestly getting annoying I get its a platform fighter but damn do most of the maps have to have them?

[inland basalt]

XD her hammer so doodgeable XD and if u actully good at the game harley is the easyest person to parry bro i spam parry her and just ezzz but who u play

[bitter bramble]

again, shaggy

[unkempt aurora]

yeah back in beta, not anymore

[inland basalt]

u play shaggyyy u playy shaggy and ur siting her saying harley is unskilled naaaaa bro i used shaggy he so sad he beats bugs evey time what are u yapppping!!

[bitter bramble]

dang thats dumb

[bitter bramble]

that is not what i said my man :|

[inland basalt]

bro shaggy so sad side kick spamer upper cut spam bugs cant win at alllllllll also side kick breaks his safe

[bitter bramble]

i said that harley's hammer beats out most of bugs moves

[bitter bramble]

only when he has rage, again thats why hangry man is shaggy's best bet

[inland basalt]

ye but u said u cant beat bugs with shaggy 💀

[inland basalt]

it dont this is comeing from some 1 who plays harley and bugs

[inland basalt]

nope i destroyed loads of bugs bunneys with out it

u just need get better at doodgeing and brain power its not hard to avoid the safe hiting u

[bitter bramble]

why are you so aggro on me rn its not even that deep leave me alone

[final solstice]

Remove Superman armor

[eternal moon]

Real

[inland basalt]

he has armor?

[fiery tartan]

on everything

remove armor on WW

she way to fast

only moves that should have armor is her side special

and up special

[inland basalt]

bro how are people saying gizmo is skilled ive just gone agenst a kid that sits in car all game spams unbrealla and the spam kick 3 moves only

[fiery tartan]

but the rest nah

[inland basalt]

how he dont have any damg resistance

[fiery tartan]

only thing that doesn't have armor is his side special

and down special

but all the normal attacks and up special has armor

[indigo gorge]

They both have armour on the ground.

At least down did in the beta haven't actually seen anyone use the laser on the ground

But sups side special has armour when he punches

[eternal moon]

Joker needs to pull a iron giant and be removed for like two weeks and get reworked the hitbox of his crowbar and balloon is insane

[indigo gorge]

Do we know when Smith is out?

[lone cargo]

how do i break an armor 0/6 times

that mission

[digital kraken]

july

sometime then

[lone cargo]

break armor 0/6

[indigo gorge]

Hope for a super armour match up like super man and wonder woman and start hitting em when they turn yellow.

[lone cargo]

ok

maybe with rifts?

[eternal moon]

Tom and jerry need cooldowns your telling me that his rocket doesn’t have a cooldown? Also nerf his paddle ball like its a reason why we need attack decay back

[indigo gorge]

Give it some risk instead of cooldowns, make it slow on startup or make it so tom can't just cancel the rocket whenever he dam pleases.

[chrome yacht]

does anyone know why i can no longer queue up with my friend?

was working before the patch, not its not

[inland basalt]

del that shi*y little gremlin mate what is that! they gave it lock on this thing spams me runs off i jump it uses a super long range gun thats lock on hits me with out even looking 4 times and i die .....

[eternal moon]

Fr

[inland basalt]

ong tom jerry "hes so skilled" tell me why i played him won evey game for pure spamming jerry rocket and paddle up and spam the pan smash thing not in a combo

just spam

jokers just a really really bent version of banna guard i dont want to hear it this dude just spamed up swing 3 times and a ballon instant death .,,, and i coudlnt move

[lucid mason]

Can they fix this game bro it’s impossible to win with all these op spamming characters it’s not even fun anymore like anytime I play a ww or a shaggy or a banana guard I’m always getting spammed by the same attack that does 20 damage each time and there edge camping just adds on and makes it worse 🤦‍♂️if ur gonna make these moves so op atleast imply a small cooldown so it’s playable

[dusky temple]

Is anyone having an issue where they can’t move in the game? I’m a ps5 player and I can move on PlayStation, but on this game my controls doesn’t work for anything. Fighting, scrolling on the battle pass menu nothing works. This happened twice.

[inland basalt]

ARya BRO HER COMBO ISNT HARD TAKES 2 SECONDS TO LEARN AND ITS BROKEN AS

[light star]

who is aris?

[shut knot]

A network error occurred…
Error Type: Connection Failed

[final jacinth]

joker needs to be nerfed

[inland basalt]

arya mb

[inland basalt]

i know he same as banna guard he has the same moves just looks diff spams swin up and if that dont kill u then a ballon

and thats its 0 to death combo

ong soooo skilled

this games needs fix so much stuff

bro i cant even emote with lebron or harley

[final jacinth]

also they need to fix the one sided matches.

[proper locust]

I don't think iron giant needs to be as heavy as he is, the most notorious kill moves in the game like bugs bat, Harley bat, ww sair etc. Just don't kill until roughly 150-160 while as every other character they kill at 80-90

[sour ruin]

Jason needs some buffs tho

[light star]

ngl

[proper locust]

Characters who don't have insane kill moves can't kill giant until 180 😭

[burnt terrace]

He needs to be taht heavy considering how big he his

Literally just combo him

[proper locust]

Everyone forgets he literally has a get out of combo free tool

[burnt terrace]

Dosnt last that long and you need resources for it

[proper locust]

Smart ig players are gonna invest in that since you can kill off it

[burnt terrace]

And the real problem is that seal Rick skin doesn’t shoot from his rifle anymore

[proper locust]

Me still waiting for rick prime

[inland basalt]

say we all spam del joker till they fix him bro just spams the side spin ( banna guard attack just side ways instead of up) and the wak up and ball spam why the f if i touch a ball i get sent across the map

[muted shoal]

it would be nice if you guys could add back co-op vs bots as a game mode

[final jacinth]

I hate fighting against joker since he is too op. the balloon need a long cooldown.

[sour ruin]

Joker up air is insanely, easy kill confirm and super fast

[plush sable]

It would be nice to be able to rescind a rematch request if the other person is taking too long to respond. I hate having to sit while the timer runs out

[bold cave]

Can we nerf or rework garnets "maker" perk?

[eternal moon]

Are we gonna ignore how broken jakes neutral special is? Like common devs this is a clear move that needs a cooldown

[unique summit]

jake and broken in the same sentence raises an eyebrow fr

[eternal moon]

I said his neutal special not him as a whole character

[toxic stratus]

B U F F J A K E

[copper merlin]

nerf iron giant harder or remove him from game again

[ionic furnace]

jake is not broken at all

[toxic stratus]

Jake is the literal worst character in the game by far

[ionic furnace]

yeah he needs a buff

[copper merlin]

nah probably garnet

[strong cove]

not at all

[light star]

NERF SUPERMANNN

[eternal moon]

Pretty sure you haven’t gone against a good jake because I can say with confidence he isn’t the worst fighter on the roster

[copper merlin]

well she's definitely not better than Jake rn

[strong cove]

might be velma but you can still do some crazy stuff with her

[toxic stratus]

Uh... everyone is bvetter than jake

velma is the only counter example id accept

[ionic furnace]

now youre just being biased

[strong cove]

ive been trying to get into velma she’s playable now unless you’re fighting a character that can grab

[toxic stratus]

join the** B U F F J A K E** movement

[eternal moon]

Um no saying jake is the worst while velma is in the game I would say velma is worse than jake I rarely see any velmas ever

[ionic furnace]

i rarely see any reindogs

doesnt make it a terrible character

as i said, youre just being biased

[strong cove]

def not worse ive been playing with her and shes crazy in the air

[toxic stratus]

Jake is the only character (iirc) who damages himself with his moves

Hes also the slowest "bruiser"

hes slower than most tanks as a matter of fact

Unplayable against projectile players based off of his speed and the fact that his attacks take damage/knockback

So, theoretically he has a bigger hit box than IG

[spice sandal]

Yeah, a lot of trouble trying to get in with Jake against projectiles.

[toxic stratus]

Yeah... its quite unenjoyable at times

For my full run-down on what to fix about jake, here it is!

#1245143961589252207 message

Any devs who want help, msg me!

[frozen orchid]

gems should be equipped per rift so i dont have to constantly switch them. if you cant even use gems that dont match attunement i dont get why theyre an option at all

[rich iris]

Appreciate The Fixing for a few match desynchronization errors, but I still get kicked from matches due to connection when I have decent internet

[tulip bison]

I'm a little surprised Stripe doesn't get at least mild damage from headbutting dynamite he's holding.

[devout sandal]

Please do some work on Finn. His hit box is off. Also he’s too easy to kill at low numbers. Bring back his gem.

[exotic gate]

I've been facing and beating top tiers with her and I've yet to see anything about her kit or whatever else that impresses me or makes me think she's a better character than she was in beta in my opinion

[tulip bison]

I've only been hearing about how she's worse, if not the worst character in the roster.

[toxic stratus]

Yeaah. No other character takes damage from their own weapon being hit

[tulip bison]

Though I guess one could argue Jake's weapon is his body.

[toxic stratus]

Yeah but also it is impossible to do any combos with a projectile player

one hit and youre stunned

[eternal moon]

Stripe does take damage from his bomb

[toxic stratus]

WEll that one makes sesne\

[tulip bison]

Ahh, good.

[exotic gate]

Cause she is the worst character in the roster, i love to play her cause shes fun but my god

[toxic stratus]

Also, batman uses his fist and kicks but those dont take damage. Also, none of jakes moves have any type of priority

If any dev wants to have a chat about this I know jake's kit in-and-out and would love to hear some sort of feedback before the balance patch

[tulip bison]

I've seen her do pretty well even now in the right hands, but it's a lot of work.

Jake was my secondary main but as other have said he's pretty lackluster now, so I've been picking up Steven.

[eternal moon]

Fix fin horrendous spam potential

[wraith raptor]

Skill issue?

[eternal moon]

Jake isnt bad, i recommend watching some good players play him he can do some crzy stuff and his Neutral special is cheese

[eternal moon]

How is that a skill issue? Its not like im the only person dealing with spamming fins

[ionic furnace]

never seen a spamming finn before

so must be skill issue

[wraith raptor]

Every character can spam

[eternal moon]

Wow you must be playing a different game then

[tulip bison]

I do think attack decay needs to be brought back.

[ionic furnace]

nope

[tulip bison]

Or if it's still here, turned back up to what it used to be.

[eternal moon]

Exactly so you saying that its a skill issue doesn’t really make sense?

[ionic furnace]

you should be able to recognise the way they are spamming and counter that

in figthing games there is nothing easier to counter than a spamming/buttonmashing opponent

IF youre skilled enough

[turbid rover]

Depending on the character not a lot of ways you can counter

Especially if ur playing a low tier character

[devout sandal]

How do we figure out if we’re made it into the tournament?

[ebon plank]

I don't think Finn is really a character you can spam with, most of his moves are very telegraphed. If you keep getting hit then approach him differently

[ionic furnace]

spamming is always a sign of someone being less skillful, if youre good at the game you can absolutely counter any spammer

[wraith raptor]

Against Finn yeah he’s kinda easy to take advantage of

[eternal moon]

Best feedback I can give this game right now is since skill based match making is in this game at least give me good teammates when I solo Q 2s 😭 I hate that it gives me trash teammates against pro players 😂

[turbid rover]

If ur fighting a bugs bunny and they r mashing nair and upair there’s not a lot you can do since his nair is so big and unless ur playing a mage not a lot you can do since he racks damage with nair so quickly and kill easily with up air or any other tool

[ionic furnace]

i have to agree bugs isnt balanced too well right now but surely not every character is like that

[turbid rover]

Not every character but if ur going against someone spamming with a high tier character it’s pretty hard to win

[tulip bison]

This game is a bit different because the balance isn't well tested. They had to vault Iron Giant because of it even.

[ionic furnace]

yeah so it's a skill issiue

hard to win but not impossible if youre good enough at the game

[tulip bison]

The spirit of what you're saying isn't exactly wrong, but I don't trust that the game is balanced that well for several reasons.

[ionic furnace]

i feel like the game is not super unbalanced but im probably not playing at a very high level

[tulip bison]

One of which being that the original game was balanced around attack decay, which no longer seems to be a factor.

[ionic furnace]

yeah the fact attack decay is gone is stupid

[turbid rover]

Didn’t say it was impossible I said it is harder

Depending on the character it’s a skill issue

[copper river]

nerf banana guard

please

[turbid rover]

He got nerfed

[copper river]

not hard enough

hes still good

[turbid rover]

Just win

[copper river]

nerf did almost nothing

[tulip bison]

Without attacks decaying there's no reason not to spam, when before there was at least some form of punishment. Knockback and damage should gradually go down the more you use the same move until you switch it up.

[ionic furnace]

banana guard is also a character that you can absolutely outplay if he spams

[turbid rover]

Only good thing he has is fair

His fair is crazy

[copper river]

dude

this banana guard

js spams the sideways move'

[turbid rover]

Banana guard fair is insane

[turbid rover]

You can put run it

[copper river]

u cant do nothing

[ionic furnace]

so why dont you dodge it

[copper river]

i do

like

[eternal moon]

That I do agree with

[copper river]

he js spams it

nothing i can do

pls nerf banana guard 🙏

[tulip bison]

Banana Guard's issue is that he has high knockback and reach. Pick a lane.

[ionic furnace]

when he does the sideways move, jump over, immediately turn around when he is still in the animation and hit him

not that hard

[tulip bison]

You say this as if he doesn't turn around immediately.

[ionic furnace]

he doesnt

the animation is quite long

[turbid rover]

You can jump?

[copper river]

i do

[turbid rover]

Dodge away

[tulip bison]

Oh, we're talking side special still. I meant side air.

[eternal moon]

Honestly if im going against a banana guard I just stay on top of them since they only do side special since thats their main attack

[turbid rover]

Who do you play

[copper river]

bugsa

bugs

bunny

[turbid rover]

BRO

skill issue

That’s crazy

Lowkey you might be cooked

[copper river]

yea i js started anyways

[turbid rover]

Just win

[ionic furnace]

oh i would not know about side air, im talking bout side special yeah cuz thats what i see spammed all the time (and that is abslutely super punishable)

[turbid rover]

Literally

Ur playing bugs bunny

You got so many options

To punish him

[copper river]

yea

[turbid rover]

You have amazing Arials

[ionic furnace]

what other games do you like playing? maybe you should play those more

[tulip bison]

I still don't think it would be amiss to turn down his power and knockback a little bit, it in general feels like he gets a little too much something for nothing.

[turbid rover]

Keep him off stage

[turbid rover]

😭

Crazy work

[copper river]

cod val n ort

n fort

[turbid rover]

Makes sense

[ionic furnace]

try to play more fort lil bro 🙏

[copper river]

ion play these type games

[ionic furnace]

get that battlepass

[copper river]

who u calling lil bro

littlest bro

[tulip bison]

Oh hush, don't completely discourage newbies.

Banana Guard definitely is still killable, honestly. I think it's more that he gets so much milage that you have to try against people who aren't, if that makes sense.

[copper river]

alr

try

ty

[ionic furnace]

you got this sam

just punish spammers

[copper river]

alr

[ionic furnace]

fighting games take a lot of effort to get good at but im sure you can

[copper river]

yep

[tulip bison]

They fixed training mode so that you can actually try everyone again, so you can use that to figure out who you want to go for before you unlock them.

[copper river]

alr

[turbid rover]

Uh not this game

I could give this game to a toddler I think they would figure it out

[ionic furnace]

LMAO

it does take a bit of figuring out i mean

[copper river]

u still gotta get good at it

[ionic furnace]

what is punishable and what not

[copper river]

anyone can figure out the game

[tulip bison]

The scale of some of these characters throws me off because I use the one character who's arms do stretch, so when I see shorter characters it's so bizzare.

Gizmo's stubby little arms absolutely did not reach me. x3

And that'll be even worse if they actually do add Tweety, apparently he (and Scooby) was one the cover of the comic they revealed.

[turbid rover]

The game literally holds ur hand

[tulip bison]

So what do you guys think about the leaked characters from the Rick audio?

||(If I remember right it leaked Pickle Rick as a seperate character, Marceline, The Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, and RWBY from Ruby.) ||

[turbid rover]

I just Marceline

[ionic furnace]

💀

[cobalt lance]

stop making quests that make you buy a character just to do

[ionic furnace]

i might quit if pickle rick becomes a character

[eternal moon]

Fr

[civic apex]

I don't know where to put this so just putting it everywhere, please fix the Taz infinite.
https://imgur.com/a/incredibly-skilled-difficult-taz-gameplay-111-Jp2e8py

[tulip bison]

If you got Jason from the pass, he counts as sports attire for the hockey mask.

[eternal moon]

Real lwk would be waste of a character slot even tho idk how much character slots are available

[tulip bison]

Supposedly he's an assassin class with a grappling hook of some kind.

[ionic furnace]

there doesnt have to be an upper limit of character slots

league of legends is what 10 years old and still releasing new characters

[tulip bison]

Character release hype is what games like this thrive off of, and it's not limited by being a full release/DLC like a normal smash game.

Because it's free-to-play. The only thing limiting the character slots is how long the game survives for.

[ionic furnace]

yeah and how big the team is

if they could release a fully fledged balanced character every two weeks for 10 bucks they would

but it takes a lot of effort

[tulip bison]

Not to mention they have to hire VAs for the characters since they voice them.

It's really funny to me that Labron James isn't voiced by Labron James. (And legally isn't Labron James the person but the character of him from Space Jam 2 specifically.)

[full tundra]

Garnet should not have like 15 combos that have a long ass hitstun

[ionic furnace]

im sure they could absolutely not get lebron to be bothered enough to get to the studio for multiversus lmao

[tulip bison]

It makes sense, but I also wish I could've been a fly on the wall for adding him to the roster to begin with.

Did they think Multiversus was that good of an advertising vehicle for Space Jam 2?

[ionic furnace]

i think it's because lebron has been a big meme for years already

so when people see "omg look lebron is playable in this game" they might check it out

[tulip bison]

I mean they were leaning on memes quite a bit at the start. Shaggy's moveset is just one big Ultra Instinct Shaggy/2% Of His Power meme.

[ionic furnace]

yeah exactly

i dont mind them doing that but it is pretty blatant

[tulip bison]

It wasn't even that long ago but it already feels kind of dated, haven't seen Ultra Instinct Shaggy in ages.

[ionic furnace]

tho i do wonder why banana guard of all characters got in lmao

[tulip bison]

Meme culture works so quickly now.

[ionic furnace]

love a more obscure or random inclusion but still its a but weird

[ionic furnace]

yeah honestly

prolly been 4 years or so

[tulip bison]

Part of me thinks it was because they already had a base to work on because Banana Guard was in that TV item the game used to have.

[ionic furnace]

tv item?

[tulip bison]

There used to be a TV item that would spawn either a Banana Guard or NEPTR. It was kind of like an assist trophy.

[ionic furnace]

oh i missed that during the original release then

never seen that before

[tulip bison]

I think it was only in certain modes.

[ionic furnace]

but that would make sense yeah, reusing assets like that is smart

[tulip bison]

It seems like they like to have a relatively powerful tutorial character to give new players a positive feeling going in, the old tutorial gave out Wonder Woman.

[ionic furnace]

makes sense yeah

you want players to get hooked

and also not be forced to only have the few characters in rotation

[tulip bison]

Part of me can't help but wonder what it would be like if this was a full-priced release because I know a F2P title needs to make money but I feel like this would be held back less if unlocking the full roster wasn't so time-consuming or pricy.

[ionic furnace]

it isnt too pricy for me so far

unless every character from now on will be 6k

a lot of the events give a decent amount of fighter currency

[tulip bison]

My assumption was that only the newest character would be 6K.

So for example when Agent Smith comes to the store, Joker gets bumped back down to 3k.

[ionic furnace]

i hope so

i honestly think it could kill the game otherwise

[tulip bison]

It sounds like PFG has to fight with WB on certain things, because there's no way it was their idea for PvP to not give out battle pass EXP at first.

Technically the battle pass is a good deal because one of the better skins on it would cost more than the pass does on it's own, so they have to balance out making it a time investment to make up for that.

[digital kraken]

bugs hasnt gotten a noticeable nerf in 2 balance patches

i figured out a 80 dmg, true combo with him in 5 minuges

minutes*

balancing is so good

[ionic furnace]

absolutely, so far it's a combination of some silly mistakes by PFG but also a lot of meddeling by WB

[tulip bison]

Yeah, they do seem hesitant to mess with Bugs.

[digital kraken]

i dont blame them but like

[ionic furnace]

im sure they are one of those really annoying and hands on publishers that try to micromanage everything

[digital kraken]

why are we allowing him to chain normal air into normal air into normal air into normal air

[ionic furnace]

even tho the designers in the end would know best to keep the game thriving

[tulip bison]

Part of me is genuinely surprised that none of the battle pass items are truly exclusive to capitalize on FOMO as much as possible.

A lot of the ringouts seem to still be missing but I can't tell if that's intentional or not.

[ionic furnace]

are they not? that is a pretty basic battle pass staple usually

get in now or never be able to get it again

[tulip bison]

Aside from a handful of ringouts, nearly every cutomization item was in a pass at some point and is just buyable now.

It costs more to buy them now than the entire pass did at the time, but still.

[ionic furnace]

oh you mean the passes from the first launch

[tulip bison]

I guess we've yet to see if the items from this pass are exclusive, but given their attitude about those I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't.

[ionic furnace]

yeah like i think uncle shagsworth was a battle pass skin

i get that they dont want to keep everything exclusive like that because the first launch was such a flop, but not rewarding early adaptors is always a bad thing in my book

as a player when you jump in after launch and see "yeah dang i missed 2 seasons of content already" youre more inclined to be on your a-game to not miss anything anymore

[tulip bison]

True. I think some of it is also that a few of these are too iconic to lock away forever when they could use them to keep making money.

The Cake Jake or Fern Finn skins for example.

I don't know if Fern was on a pass but I know Cake was.

[ionic furnace]

whole skins i can see why they would add to the shop, but icons or banners i think they should keep as exclusives for early adaptors

its a small thing but still gives you bragging rights as a player

[tulip bison]

That's true. It's weird that Ringouts might be the one thing to have prestige, because they added the ability to see and buy all profile icons and banners you don't already have from your inventory.

But only a handful of ringouts show up for this, and even then only ones from the current pass.

[ionic furnace]

Is the rainicorn icon included with that

I want that one to be exclusive so bad lol

But yeah just feels like a weird choice on PFG part here and it's something thats not easy to turn around (if they would even want to)

[tulip bison]

I already have it unlocked so I'm not entirely sure, but I've seen other icons from around the same time in the shop rotation so probably.

[ionic furnace]

Dang

I really want the bragging rights for that one hahaha

[rich iris]

Fix 2v2's ✊

[ionic furnace]

I remember grinding the pass to get it and then dropped the game entirely lmao

[tulip bison]

The thing I revved through an entire pass for was the Cake skin.

[eternal moon]

Real

[tulip bison]

That was a great motivator. x3

[ionic furnace]

At least you got it for free then and can still keep it now

Tho ive heard of a lot of people not having all their stuff yet from first launch

[tulip bison]

If this game hadn't been dead during the time of it's release I'm sure we'd have gotten a Fionna skin to promote the newer series by now.

[rich iris]

can't even play 2v2 because it keeps disconnecting, Recommended mode my butt

[tulip bison]

I'd prefer her as her own slot with moves based on the new special over her being a Finn skin anyway though.

[ionic furnace]

I can't believe there isn't a fionna skin already honestly

[tulip bison]

Fionna and Cake is getting a season 2, so maybe then.

[polar plank]

I have some feedback, I dont like being held hostage at the end of a game cause someone is salty and doesnt wanna rematch so they make me wait there, If i choose rematch, I should be able to quit out after that so i dont have to wait for 40 seconds for my next match for it to happen again

[ionic furnace]

Whenever you see the disconnection screen, its because your wifi is terrible

When your teammate or anyone else disconnects they just stand still but the match still happens

[tulip bison]

If I'm being completely honest, I think it gets stuck sometimes. It makes me wait out the timer even on people who do want to rematch.

[light salmon]

add voice chat

[ionic furnace]

Honestly

I've never seen adventure time

I really should watch it tho, my gf is a big fan

[polar plank]

no but this is definitely them doing it to do it, Im sure it can be a bug sometimes tho

[tulip bison]

The Fionna and Cake series takes place after the main show and a few specials that take place after it, so don't watch that first.

[balmy thicket]

For some reason I keep getting desynced on Rick and Morty rift challenges when I try them with my European friend

[ionic furnace]

Well I wouldn't know for the rifts

But 2v2s are like I just described

[ionic furnace]

Aaah good to know! Thanks

[polar plank]

@umbral summit please consider, just tagging someone so this doesnt get lost in whats clearly become Generalchat 2

[ionic furnace]

Lol salty much?

I'm sure we would have been told by a mod if we were doing anything wrong

[tulip bison]

No problem. First it's Adventure Time, then the Distant Lands specials, then Fionna and Cake.

[tulip bison]

I'm gonna be real, I don't think there's a lot of moderation or people who actually read the channels here. Tagging them on Twitter gets a lot better results for pretty much everything.

They have abandoned the Discord as the cesspool it truly is.

[fresh karma]

I think the difficulty on rifts needs to be toned down significantly

[ionic furnace]

Really?? I thought this discord was official