game-feedback

[prime ruin]

im forced to buy it for the one char i want

[swift bramble]

which is few and far between... They just finally released skin 2 for everyone... 1 YEAR LATER

[prime ruin]

streets is also suffering from a good game and not enough characters

[swift bramble]

or content... Didn't SFV have a BUNCH of DLC skins within its first year??

[unkempt aurora]

you can change the outline but not turn off the color

i just want the characters to look normal

[prime ruin]

it really is just becoming a common issue with most fighting games now

[unkempt aurora]

no colors no nuthin

[prime ruin]

yeah

[turbid pebble]

I got the SF6 special edition so the first season of characters was included anyway.

Chances are they will do similar expanded editions with DLC included like in SF5 the longer the game goes on.

[prime ruin]

for some reason sf6 isn't

[prime ruin]

true

[swift bramble]

same

dont get me wrong, I like both games, but their business practices truly disgust me...

[prime ruin]

but its taking longer and longer for that stuff now for how games are being sold

[swift bramble]

Tekken's is even worse

imagine waiting to release the shop till after the press review period...

[prime ruin]

didn't they just get a character

that was already in 7

[swift bramble]

Eddie?

that was a while ago

[prime ruin]

that should've just been in roster already

[swift bramble]

ive only heard character ANNOUNCEMENTS

[prime ruin]

i thought they just got a new one

a blonde chick or someone

i think she was already in 7

[swift bramble]

they posted an announcement yesterday

but idk if she released

or not

so almost half way to a year in the games life cycle and we only got 1.5 new characters...

kinda sad

[prime ruin]

fr

[swift bramble]

id like tekken a lot more

if it didnt force you into heat

all the time

for every other move

I just wanna use Kuma Back1 for armor and im forced into heat

or ANY of my good mids

[turbid pebble]

Oh I know. Just because anything can be monetizable doesn't mean everything should lmao

[swift bramble]

once again... Late stage capitalism...

[prime ruin]

it really is just so many good games suffering from too many issues rn

[swift bramble]

wrong

good game are suffering at the hands of greedy higher ups and shareholders

making something that makes money>fixing games

[turbid pebble]

I'm half expecting there to be another gaming crash at some point when too many games release at once relying on live service/battlepass models chasing Fortnite's curtails. Players simply do not have the time or money to split between 2, maybe 3 at most without turning their gaming sessions purely into chore lists instead of actually playing for the sake of fun.

[drowsy bough]

As soon as content starts being locked to battle passes, it'll happen

Right now it's just cosmetics

And let's pray it stays that way

[unkempt aurora]

honestly i dont know why so many people are complaining

the game feels great and different

i really dig it

[prime heart]

cuz the game sucks bruh

its soo much worse than the beta considering they made us wait a year

[prime ruin]

i can understand if you like it how it is but the issue is that a lot of people dont like it how it is

[prime heart]

the character reveals are like the only thing it has going for it

[prime ruin]

yeah

[prime heart]

the gameplay is debatable

the progression is worse than before

the servers still seem like they arent that good

[primal cloud]

I don’t think it’s too bad I it think it just needs a new economy and quality of life changes

[velvet pumice]

One thing I was wondering about the game was why did they not make all perks available in local play

Doesn’t that kind of screw over any type of competitive play

[prime heart]

i thought characters arent even available in local play unless you own them

[velvet pumice]

That too

It kind of just kills competitive

[prime heart]

you cant even test characters before you buy them from what i heard

[unkempt aurora]

how so tho?

[prime heart]

which is stupid since they made character tokens a pain to get now

[unkempt aurora]

the netcode feels pretty good although some connection losts

[prime ruin]

they need to hear the criticisms to help make it a better game for all sorts of players but and not just only one type

[unkempt aurora]

the gameplay in my opinion is better although different

progression sucks, yeah

[prime heart]

just the fact you cant farm character tokens or BP xp is bad

[velvet pumice]

Let’s hope they’re not lying in the pinned message

Gameplay itself I like a lot

Everything else

Questionable at best

[drowsy bough]

Also gotta say that Finn feels absolutely awful to play right now

[velvet pumice]

Outright awful at worst

[drowsy bough]

And I mean like feels like controlling a car with half a wheel awful

Like he just can't do anything

[velvet pumice]

He felt fine to me

[prime ruin]

the only character i unlocked today was jason which is sad and still dont have enough to get joker from grinding all day

[velvet pumice]

The grind is just too much

Like they need to adjust this as soon as possible

[drowsy bough]

He has zero kill confirms

[prime heart]

i think this will unironically kill the game

[velvet pumice]

Because basically everyone just played Jason and Shaggy because they were the only two free characters

[prime ruin]

i used to be able to unlock 3 characters from just playing for fun

[velvet pumice]

I’m not thinking that far considering it’s only day one

[prime heart]

you cant even play or try characters you want because they timegated the currency for it

[prime ruin]

now im gonna have to pay for fun

[tender chasm]

The game could be a tad bit faster and the camera more zoomed out

[prime ruin]

i can agree with that

[vale basin]

me too

[velvet pumice]

Regardless of our opinions on the gameplay

The grind needs to be fixed

ASAP

[prime ruin]

yep

[prime heart]

the progression system is like the most glaring issue imo

[tender chasm]

Characters also should cost a bit less, plays into your grind commen

[unkempt aurora]

yeah that sucks, always sucked sadly

[velvet pumice]

I’m thinking like 3K per character

[prime heart]

but before you could atleast grind out character currency

[velvet pumice]

Compared to Joker who is 6K

[prime heart]

now you cant even do that

[prime ruin]

i hope they expand more than 2v2s eventually or just more party modes for bigger lobbies for more friends

[unkempt aurora]

yeah that really does suck

maybe im not suffering it that much since i just want joker

[drowsy bough]

I'd be willing to bet a proper patch by the end of next week max

[velvet pumice]

I do want this game to succeed and I’m loving the actual gameplay

[drowsy bough]

That addresses some stuff

[velvet pumice]

But the gameplay loop of grinding is ROUGH

[prime ruin]

i want joker but if every new character cost 6k i wont be able to afford another one after him

[prime heart]

id hope so

[prime ruin]

for months

[prime heart]

exactly the issue

[velvet pumice]

Joker costs WAY too much

[prime heart]

also I dont want to have to play this game every day just to farm character currency to afford new characters

[velvet pumice]

Isn’t he also the only one with this problem?

[prime ruin]

like if agent smith comes out i wont able to buy him if i bought joker

[velvet pumice]

I swear the other characters are cheaper

[velvet pumice]

I mean we can get him for free at least

But still

If he’s 6K as well

Then we have a massive problem on our hand

[prime ruin]

then if someone else comes out after him that looks cool i wont be able to get them unless i spent actually money for it

[prime heart]

he likely will be

along with every other new character

its not an issue if currency was farmable

[ocean fractal]

and we dont earn fighter tokens like we did in beta with gold

[prime heart]

but its not

[velvet pumice]

Yeah honestly just make character currency farmable

[drowsy bough]

Joker's 3k, isn't he?

[velvet pumice]

Nope

[prime heart]

okay hold on

[velvet pumice]

6K

[ocean fractal]

nope

[prime heart]

you know whats worse

[drowsy bough]

What.

[prime ruin]

unless they have a couple characters in between battle passes or something then idk how there gonna save this game

[velvet pumice]

Everyone else is cheaper

[tender chasm]

yeah so back to his, characters are bit too much fighter currency imo, a bit grindy to get just 1 character, let alone all

[prime heart]

some challenges are locked behind certain characters

like you cant even complete the rift if you dont own joker

[drowsy bough]

Idk if the "new character per two week" thing is still true

[velvet pumice]

No you can

I did

[drowsy bough]

But if it that'd be..okay

[tender chasm]

i do hope PFG take alook at this channel and isnt muted lol

[velvet pumice]

But you have to scrape for challenges

[prime ruin]

like next battlepass Godzilla for example if they had like a few between it would pretty nice

[ocean fractal]

i want marcy in this

[prime heart]

some of the challenges for each mission need joker

[velvet pumice]

Like I barley got 100 challenges in the rift done

[velvet pumice]

Yes but you only need 100

[prime heart]

oh

[velvet pumice]

To get all acme crate rewards

[prime ruin]

like samurai jack or a few others then the next battlepass character it would kinda fine

[prime heart]

but they still have the same issue with some of the battlepass challenges

where they require you to use specific characters from a series

[velvet pumice]

There’s a weekly challenge for me to play Rick and Morty

[prime ruin]

atleast they would have characters keeping the hype and life of the game

[velvet pumice]

I own neither

And they’re not in rotation

[prime heart]

thats what i am talking about

[velvet pumice]

Why not make the challenges be based around characters you actually own

[prime ruin]

i kinda dont like that there is character specific missons instead of class ones

[prime heart]

challenges are locked behind characters and you cant even grind for the characters needed

[unkempt aurora]

i dumped 500 hours in the beta and i got like every character so the grind isnt really bothering me

[velvet pumice]

Like make it so I have to play looney tunes or a dc character

[unkempt aurora]

but i've played literally ALL day

[prime heart]

i think the challenges are random for each person

[unkempt aurora]

and i only have 4.92k character stuff

[velvet pumice]

While it’s not a problem for everyone

[prime ruin]

damn

[unkempt aurora]

nah they arent

[velvet pumice]

Not everyone so lucky

[velvet pumice]

That would be a good change

[unkempt aurora]

im not sure if you get more character tokens for playing the beta or something

but i started today with 1k i think?

[prime heart]

you dont

i played beta and still cant afford joker

[prime ruin]

ive only got near 6k but can only get the full amount if i get mastery on everyone i own and get lucky enough to get to a tier thats close to character currency

[prime heart]

after doing most of the challenges available today

[unkempt aurora]

i dunno, besides some ui stuff, performance and grindy xp/battlepass xp im loving the game

been waiting for a year and it didnt dissapoint for me at least

i really like the more methodic slow gameplay

[prime ruin]

my biggest issue is that moving maps and hazards aren't optional anymore

[unkempt aurora]

it was hard to get used to it and stop moving with the dodge button all the time haha, but now im landing a ton of parrys and it feels good man

[prime ruin]

im really tired of being killed by mojo jojo when i could get a win

[drowsy bough]

Yep, townsville makes me wanna tweak, the bombs are awful

[prime heart]

im not having fun because I'm stuck with the same 1 character I've been playing since beta

[prime ruin]

it would be fun playing with friends on it in private match but cmon

[unkempt aurora]

well but how much did you play beta tho?

i like the stage gimmicks for mojo

[prime ruin]

and dont get me started on dexters lab

[prime heart]

i had like 30 hours i think

[velvet pumice]

I could take or leave Mojo

[prime ruin]

why is it only the moving version

[velvet pumice]

He’s fine most of the time for me

[velvet pumice]

Did you never get DL2?

[prime heart]

i just dont think it should be this grindy to get characters

[velvet pumice]

Agreed

[prime ruin]

no

[velvet pumice]

Especially considering this is a fighting game

[pure raft]

how did ya get 4.92k ? i'm stuck at 3.9k with all the pve content, so i assume u need to finish the PVP stuff too ?

[unkempt aurora]

oh i've played a mix of both i unno

[prime heart]

part of what makes fighting games fun for me is being able to try different characters

right now im not getting that

[unkempt aurora]

also i think mastery of characters gives you stuff?

[prime ruin]

mojo stealing a winning game kill from me is so annoying i could about to get the last hit to kill and his laser would one shot me

[velvet pumice]

Character levels get you some character currency

[drowsy bough]

it does, yeah

[prime ruin]

and im playing jason with grey health buff

[pure raft]

ooooh boi i already miss being able to grind gold on my own :_-)

[prime heart]

not alot for how long it takes to level

[unkempt aurora]

and as i mentioned before i do have all the characters unlocked from the beta so i just been jumping back and forth on a bunch to try them out again

[velvet pumice]

Mojo was never a problem for me personally

[prime heart]

real

[velvet pumice]

You got off better than the rest of us

[unkempt aurora]

yeahh but i mean im in the minority

i dumped a lot of hours in multiversus

[velvet pumice]

Nothing wrong with that

[unkempt aurora]

i've got like 4k wins and played a bunch on the beta

[pure raft]

i got all minus stripe ... which is biting me in the ass whenever it asks me for a gremlin character xD

[unkempt aurora]

its not fair to compare really

[prime ruin]

it happens everytime at last stock

[unkempt aurora]

people that are starting out on the game are going to have a hard time unlocking anything because of the grind

[prime ruin]

i cant ever tell if id lose from skill or just hazards

[pure raft]

honestly whoever grinded PVE pre beta got scott free with all the gold stuff

[unkempt aurora]

im guessing it will get better with the quests n junk but still, blows

[prime ruin]

cause mojo would intervene everytime

[prime heart]

thats the issue i have with it

[unkempt aurora]

im pretty sure tomorrow with the quests ill be able to reach like 10k character points

[fossil belfry]

Anyone that's not an open beta player what do they get? Besides Banana Guard day 2

[pure raft]

this is just straight up a downgrade to incite FOMO (my opinion) cause idk what'll be the frequency of Fighters Coins

[unkempt aurora]

but for now if you want to grind without quests, good luck

[prime ruin]

and mojo can break the stage if you hit him to stop him

[prime heart]

screwed over

[unkempt aurora]

i really dig the mojo jojo mechanic

[prime ruin]

and still come back

[unkempt aurora]

it's really fun

i dont like the dexter lab 1 tho

the one that moves

[prime ruin]

i dont hate the fact that he's there

[unkempt aurora]

something eels kind o wack idunno why

[fossil belfry]

Who do they get as starter at least? Shaggy?

[unkempt aurora]

characters rotate

[shell shard]

I like the game so far but I don’t like that I lost my skins, (hollywood bugs) and had no compensation, or wasn’t made aware of compensation.

[prime heart]

i honestly have no clue

[prime ruin]

but its the fact hes there during something like casual without a option to just play the normal non hazard version is annoying

[unkempt aurora]

weekly, they change

but tomorrow most new players will get the banana guard

[unkempt aurora]

you did??

how tho?

are you sure you linked your wb account and logged on the righ tone?

[prime heart]

guys im gonna be real Banana gaurd is such a stupid pick

[pure raft]

i mean the gimmicks for the stages are cute though, makes em more lively and they are on only for casuals at least where there's no competitive stuff. Guess if u want non hazard u'll need to get in a room

[shell shard]

I had the skin in beta, and have my female skin aswell

[unkempt aurora]

im not sure wich platform you're on but i've got everything i had before

[prime heart]

they did not earn a joke character yet

[tender chasm]

You wouldnt be the only one

[pure raft]

@prime heart stupid nah... random ? yup considering they could've put anyone else

[prime ruin]

i would've been happy if it was ice king

[velvet pumice]

It should’ve been Marceline

[unkempt aurora]

i like the banana guard, i think he's nice

[shell shard]

I have all my other skins and stuff like the female bugs, but I lost my hollywood bugs from beta

[unkempt aurora]

thats weird

[pure raft]

i would've taken gunter at that point 👀

[shell shard]

and wasn’t made aware on if i was compensated or not

[fossil belfry]

Also feels weird having Banana Guard... and the announcer lol

[prime ruin]

even if ice king was annoying to fight atleast it would be a main character

[velvet pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-you-lose-good-day-sir-gif-19162514

[prime heart]

the future of this game is way to up in the air for them to do banana gaurd as a pick

[unkempt aurora]

i like that pfg picks weird ass characters too, so you never really know whatever they're adding

i dont really have a bother with that

[velvet pumice]

You could probably report that

[fossil belfry]

I would have preferred playable BMO ngl

[unkempt aurora]

plus it works as a beginner character

[pure raft]

@unkempt aurora i mean so far they were previous leaks if i recall

[unkempt aurora]

you're overexaggerating a lot hahaha

[prime ruin]

i hope its more villains in the future since you need villains for certain challenges

[unkempt aurora]

yeah

[prime heart]

am i really

[unkempt aurora]

yes

[velvet pumice]

Kind of yeah

[pure raft]

Joker was expected and the only one missing from the leaks is gandalf

[unkempt aurora]

a bunch of really cool characters got leaked too

[velvet pumice]

It’s day 1 my guy

[unkempt aurora]

upcoming ones

[prime heart]

the advertisement campaign for the relaunch hasn't been very good imo

[velvet pumice]

We’re just criticizing the game

[pure raft]

that was the last character i remember being leaked, don't remember if anyonee ever mentioned agent smith at any point

[shell shard]

idk how, but also it’s in the shop now

[velvet pumice]

Not saying the end times are upon us

[velvet pumice]

#game-support probably

[unkempt aurora]

well there wasnt much for sure, and it kinda sucked at first but like the trailers were really cool

[tender chasm]

For Day 1, its not bad. It couldve been better,. but its not bad

[velvet pumice]

Exactly

[prime ruin]

i think they couldn't get gandalf because of the LOTR people dont like doing game crossovers much in recent years

[unkempt aurora]

honestly i expected day 1 to be awful

and it surprised me

[velvet pumice]

Like I’m critiquing the game because I want it to be successful

[prime heart]

the jason and agent smith reveals were the only good part

[unkempt aurora]

game is pretty cool

[tender chasm]

fr

[fossil belfry]

Tbf it is kinda ridiculous we have to complain to get features we had back on beta like coop vs ai etc

[unkempt aurora]

plenty of disconnects and crashes first few hours but after that

pretty good

[prime ruin]

but gandalf is the one character i would be happy to get in

[unkempt aurora]

what??

you can play coop vs ai

[tender chasm]

Gandalf was leaked in like 2021

[velvet pumice]

I never got crashes personally

I got lucky I guess

[prime heart]

I want it to do good so I have something other than fornite to play with friends crossplay

but right now idk if I have high hopes

[pure raft]

only gripes i have is the camera and the grind for coins for characters feels too skewed towards waiting for mission rather than being able to get coins on our own

[velvet pumice]

There’s a difference between being critical

And claiming the game is already gonna die

You rn are the latter

[unkempt aurora]

i think you're being way too negative, be patient, it's just the first day

[pure raft]

i would've preferred everything they added plus the old grind system since, it was just legit more practical to get characters

[velvet pumice]

Lean more towards the former

[faint fiber]

Server select?

[prime ruin]

the LOTR game people became stingy so we might get gandalf from luck or just won't get him

[unkempt aurora]

the old grind system was bad, but not as bad as this

[velvet pumice]

Don’t just say the game is doomed

Say what could be improved

[prime heart]

bruh i did

the progression

[unkempt aurora]

bro is saying game is doomed over a banana XD

[pure raft]

and don't end up fearing that if u don't get every reward, you'll end up missing characters

[ember raft]

What do you think about game speed?

[velvet pumice]

I like it personally

[unkempt aurora]

i dig it

[velvet pumice]

Makes Tom and Jerry a lot more fun

[prime heart]

the progression system is 100% the games biggest flaw imo

[pure raft]

that's the thing xD it was bad BUT it was still better than nothing and definitely in ur favor

[unkempt aurora]

honestly

[prime ruin]

i cant blame him if i got banana guard before gandalf or even agent smith a character they already showed off id be pissed too

[pure raft]

hell u could grind dumb bots and just get both character levels AND gold

[unkempt aurora]

i have like a lot of shtuff from beta so i feel kinda cool

like

i have like 170k prestige points

and like 250k perk stuff

[ember raft]

I don't mind the speed but wish it was like the beta with this kind of stamina bars

[tender chasm]

Characters should have different prices, not all be the same price. putting new characters at a higher price is fine ig, as long as its not a grind to get to said price. Also, as mentioned before by me and im sure others did too, its a bit too grindy getting them.

[unkempt aurora]

bunch of stuff from leveling all the characters to max in beta and i like that but i see some friends struggling to get literally anything

[pure raft]

only got 69k prestige and 190k perk stuff but to be fair i didn't use all of em

[unkempt aurora]

i used to move like a crackhead dodging every chance i got and now this speed made me think about the fight more

[prime heart]

its not even grindy its straight up time gated

[prime ruin]

i wouldn't mind if it was like the beta

[unkempt aurora]

also i got the hang of parrys and i feel like jesus christ himself

[tender chasm]

it is?

[prime heart]

yea

[unkempt aurora]

parrys are so fun

[pure raft]

@prime heart BINGO

[unkempt aurora]

and i can counter the bull that shaggy pulls with his kicks

[prime heart]

the only way to grind out character tokens is from character mastery

[tender chasm]

elaborate if you will

[prime ruin]

that way i can just play for fun or grind with friends

[unkempt aurora]

thats still too much

[faint fiber]

The Asian scene is gonna DIE without server select. I think we are being matched to NA which is really bad.

[unkempt aurora]

its just another character, it's not like they're not getting in over the banana

[prime ruin]

but the grind take so long just to get even access any character in a team based fighting game

[pure raft]

@tender chasm basically getting 30/36 gold per character after every win regardles of the mode

[tender chasm]

i replied to the wrong person, meant to reply to Yakuza

[gray spear]

I think they did that in the beta right?

[ember raft]

Honestly if this game has brawlhalla speed and a better camera it would be perfect imo and I feel if they don't do something about it all the comp playersnare gonna leave and that's what keeps these games alive

[prime heart]

to be fair the banana takes away development from another character

[gray spear]

W Asta pfp btw

[pure raft]

if he was talking bout the grind for characters

[unkempt aurora]

dude, it's a banana

they have like

5 other characters ready to drop whenever they please

[prime ruin]

thats kinda the issue

[tender chasm]

danke

[unkempt aurora]

i think its really cool for new players too

[prime ruin]

that we dont already have them

[tender chasm]

i honestly dont remember

[gray spear]

🫡

[unkempt aurora]

i have no rush honestly

[prime heart]

idk that doesnt change the fact that the development time couldve been spent elsewhere

[unkempt aurora]

there's a bunch of content to get through already

[prime ruin]

but its whatever

[gray spear]

I remember characters like WW being around 10k and T&J being around 14k gold

[unkempt aurora]

i think they worked on the game a lot

[prime ruin]

i dont either if it wasn't for how the xp works for the battle pass

[unkempt aurora]

the only content are not characters

[tender chasm]

getting character currency for every win would be nice, even if you lose maybe a small handful would go a long way

[gray spear]

The recommended characters were cheaper I believe

[unkempt aurora]

the whole game got reworked and it really shows

[fossil belfry]

I mean without fumbling custom matches and counting for the pvp modes (although for now you get flooded by cpu anyway)

[prime ruin]

fr

[unkempt aurora]

i they buff the xp i'd be really happy with most of the game rn honestly

[prime ruin]

same

[gray spear]

Honestly not sure why they wouldn't include that. You got gold after every match even if you lost in the beta

Is there a way to uninstall the update? 😭

[prime heart]

because they wanted us to suffer

[prime ruin]

i would have less complaints outside of not having more than 4 new characters

[unkempt aurora]

anyways im gonna get some rest, i've been playing all day lmao

[tender chasm]

i wish

[pure raft]

u also got a bonus when teamed up and some modifiers 1 time items to get more... but as it stand, we'll be good for joker and smith currently, we're eating character accessibility wise

[unkempt aurora]

take care people

[gray spear]

😔

[pure raft]

but once we run out of the day 1 bonuses and early levels... good luck for the remaining characters

[tender chasm]

later Bleachy

[gray spear]

I can't even bring myself to be angry anymore, I'm just disappointed

[prime heart]

seriously though why else would the ruin it

[gray spear]

I had high expectations for this game

[pure raft]

@prime heart money

[tender chasm]

also shouold we be clogging this chat with anything but feedback?

[prime heart]

yea

i feel like its way more anti consumer now than before

[pure raft]

let's be real, it's just money xD it's fomo 101 tactics, give u JUST enough so that u want to speed up for money

[gray spear]

Not sure tbh

[pure raft]

granted i still have all the characters pre beta so ehi, not missing much

i can have fun with em

[prime ruin]

atleast most of the main couple of issues most players are having will atleast be a general topic enough to be seen

[pure raft]

but it's clear that whoever didn't bother, it's gonna have an hard time, u'll just have to pick whichever character u like or is the top tier of the month lol

[prime ruin]

like the first one would be the xp grind for me

[fossil belfry]

For me if I want all weeklies I have to get a SU character:/

Wish we could reroll

[pure raft]

@fossil belfry SU ?

[prime ruin]

steven universe

[pure raft]

aaah

[prime heart]

which is stupid if you were trying to save for something else

[fossil belfry]

The 10xmatches with a Steven Universe series character

[prime heart]

bruh what tf do you mean by that

[pure raft]

i didn't even know there was a mission for it o__o

[prime heart]

10X?

[tender chasm]

#general-2 is pretty empty and not as active as 1, we could move convo there i dont mean to mod btw

[prime heart]

bruh

[prime ruin]

the xp grind and currency for characters is probably one of biggest issues if seen so far

[pure raft]

oh yeah

[gray spear]

Alr

[prime ruin]

so hopefully they see some of this

[fossil belfry]

Yes in Weeklies

[prime heart]

thats actually so bad

i hate challenges that force you to play specific characters

bruh they might aswell be overwatch with "Win 7 matches as" challenges

[fossil belfry]

And it is like 3k points (cause 7 mission bonus) so I dunno if to skip

[prime ruin]

if i could have enough to buy like 3 characters rn from playing all day id be fine cause that way id atleast have enough for someone new like joker by next week

[prime heart]

3k is a lot too

[pure raft]

leaving feedback:

• More character coins
• Player decide WHEN TO GRIND IT in WHICHEVER mode they want
• no PVE Content locked behind cosmetics OR character picks (JUST force us on one character from that series temporarily)
• the 15 ghosts challenge... whoever developed it... i wish you a good day :_-)

[prime heart]

bruh

[prime ruin]

real

[prime heart]

i forgot about the content locked being cosmetics

thats stupid too

[velvet pumice]

At least there you had every character unlocked

[fossil belfry]

Right what even is GraphixP whatever character xD only linked to a very ugly variant

[prime heart]

actually i think im confusing OW and Apex but still

those missions are annoying

[pure raft]

i think it means the comic book skin OR the gotham skin (the shirt)

u need one of those skins to even access those missions

no ifs or buts, you gotta spend 5 euros for PVE content pretty much

[prime ruin]

are those from doing challenges or from buying

[prime heart]

the fact that they have content locked behind skins is stupid

[pure raft]

nope, pay up @prime ruin

[prime ruin]

damn

[pure raft]

at least as far as i saw

[prime ruin]

the wonder woman is the only free one i saw

[pure raft]

idk if they plan to release it as a reward at some point but i definitively did not find any mission that gives it

wait where ???

[prime ruin]

you unlock it from challenges i think

in one of the challenges sections

[velvet pumice]

Also can I just say

[pure raft]

uh... will have to check it then

[fossil belfry]

Oh so THAT is what that Joker section is about

[velvet pumice]

The joker event challenges are so vague

[prime ruin]

but its behind the rift stuff i think

so i without more rift storys out you cant get it yet

[velvet pumice]

I can’t even tell if you need to do rifts or just play matches for the joker stuff

[pure raft]

oh... so it's still locked

[prime ruin]

yeah

[pure raft]

again with the timed stuff

[prime ruin]

seriously

[fossil belfry]

Like Agent Smith needing 20 Rifts

[velvet pumice]

They advertise us being able to get Agent Smith for free

[fossil belfry]

The 5 current ones x4 difficulties

[prime ruin]

just to play him early for like 2 weeks

[velvet pumice]

And 3 of them aren’t even available yet

[prime ruin]

than wait till he's actually out

[prime heart]

i dont understand what "Play 2 matches with Banana Guard for 400 Joker Image" is

what are they even giving you with half of the challenges

[fossil belfry]

Cause Insanity isn't implemented so will need lv9 gems and rush limited lives mode

[velvet pumice]

You get 400 joker images obviously

[prime ruin]

nothing realistcally

[prime heart]

that must be the case

[velvet pumice]

Didn’t they make that very clear

[prime heart]

yea i guess your right

[prime ruin]

you don't even get the joker gang shirt variants from doing it

[prime heart]

yea wait wth

didnt they say stroy mode was supposed to give free skins or something

[prime ruin]

they should just be for free for how goofy those one are for doing the rifts

[velvet pumice]

It’s like how Fortnite advertises some skins with seasons but they’re in the shop

But worse

[prime ruin]

ong

[prime heart]

im gonna be real why did they make the shop look like fort also

the fort shop is so bad

i hate rotating item shop design

[velvet pumice]

It looks worse than the Fortnite shop

[fossil belfry]

The monkey paw curled when people asked it to be more like Fork Knife apparently

[prime heart]

what actual good battlepass progression

that you can earn xp from just playing with

[velvet pumice]

The MVS shop is cluttered

[prime ruin]

it is

[prime heart]

also the prices suck

[velvet pumice]

Like I get you want people to buy bundles and stuff but jeez

[fossil belfry]

Do you have a Rick and Morty character? And a Steven Universe one? No? You don't get full weekly exp

[prime heart]

those skins are not worth 10+ dollars

[prime ruin]

i kinda wish they had like starter bundles that had a few characters you can unlock already with like a skin with it or something

[velvet pumice]

Not to mention half of the stuff in it shouldn’t even cost gleamium

[prime heart]

no, i didnt even get that challenges

i think they are different for everybody

despite what that other guy said

[velvet pumice]

Yeah I can’t get full weekly exp

[prime ruin]

i wish taunts weren't behind gleamium

[velvet pumice]

I don’t own Rick or Morty

[velvet pumice]

SAME

[prime ruin]

or atleast all the ones that were available in the alpha

but still even then

[velvet pumice]

Like that makes sense in Fortnite because of emote wheels and all that stuff

In a platform fighter?

[prime ruin]

they should just be already in the characters

[velvet pumice]

Not so much

[velvet pumice]

Agreed

[prime ruin]

like what if i had to pay money for mario throwing his hat for smash

id hate it

[prime heart]

im literally checking right now, I finished all my weeklies, and I dont have any of those characters

i think they screwed you guys specifically with that one

[velvet pumice]

There’s a difference between spending vbucks so I can make Goku hit the griddy and spending gleamium so reindog can shake his butt

[prime heart]

cuz they are crooked

[prime ruin]

fr

the fact that i have to pay money for a bundle to get batman checking his utilitiy belt is insane

like bruh

[fossil belfry]

I can't wait next week to ask me to get Arya

[prime ruin]

its literally just something batman does

[velvet pumice]

Sounds like an idle animation 💀

[prime heart]

what are you guys complaining about? You can get garnet "youre just mad that youre single" emote for free if you grind prestige points

[prime ruin]

am i gonna pay money for him throwing his batarang too

[velvet pumice]

You can’t buy it with money

[prime ruin]

i might as well at this point

[prime heart]

grind a million hours probably

[velvet pumice]

You literally have to grind for it

You will get it for free after 300 hours and you will like it

[prime heart]

bruh none of the prestige shop stuff is even work that much imo

[velvet pumice]

Prestige points should only be for skins

[prime ruin]

like the batman who laughs is one thing even though i dont like that comic much but grinding prestiege for emotes is actually unfair

[velvet pumice]

BWL makes sense

Nothing else there does

Like why the beach Harley skin of all things

[prime ruin]

like getting mastery to get prestiege currency sure for like skins i get

but emotes

cmon

[prime heart]

bruh atleast you get beach garnet for free if you watch twitch for 90min

[vast blaze]

Give me my cosmetics items from beta back

[prime heart]

even though i dont have the character

f bruh

[fossil belfry]

Tbf I thought Prestige shop was threshold based

But nope

[prime heart]

i dont even understand how the prestige system works

[velvet pumice]

Ok so I had an idea that MIGHT have worked or might not

[prime heart]

like most of the stuff on the dog aweful ui

[velvet pumice]

Make prestige skins like a character mastery level 100 reward

[prime ruin]

its actually kinda funny that they have diffrent actors for certain skins to me

[prime ruin]

i can agree with that somewhat

[prime heart]

that works but ah hell nah

[fossil belfry]

Like a points program, you get Prestige per cosmetic

[prime heart]

bruh theyll have us grinding 1k hours per prestige skin

[prime ruin]

i like the idea of getting skins for getting levels on characters

[fossil belfry]

...and then you spend them in that shop

[velvet pumice]

Maybe not 100

[prime ruin]

but 100 idk

[velvet pumice]

But that’s the general idea

[prime heart]

wait what

[velvet pumice]

Like you play a ton of joker and he’s your main

[prime ruin]

with that xp grind id die before then

[prime heart]

i thought it was tied to character mastery or something

ah hell nah

[velvet pumice]

Your reward for your dedication to the character? Batman who laughs

You get what I mean?

[prime heart]

yea

[fossil belfry]

Yes, I didn't get more than the free stuff in beta and not even the last season pass and such and got like almost 30k points

[prime heart]

it sounds like a good idea

[fossil belfry]

Those come from the open beta cosmetics we got like those ugly Christmas stuff

[prime heart]

but unfortunately this games implementation of it will be grind 1k hours on joker for his skin

[prime ruin]

if im playing someone like jason i get a bunch of levels for it would be sick if i get like a alternate skin or color

like another movie design or something

[velvet pumice]

Exactly

[prime ruin]

like FT13 movie 2 skin or something

[prime heart]

bruh i literally feel like im being punished for not farming every character in the beta

[velvet pumice]

It would be a great reward for people who are dedicated to their main

[prime ruin]

then i would have a fun reason to play 1 character for day

like finn getting fern

from playing

[fossil belfry]

Idk how much is the actual max for a f2p that grinded everything back then

[velvet pumice]

Fern would be a perfect skin for that concept

[prime heart]

according to the guy earlier he had 130k from beta

it sounded like most of it was from free stuff too

[prime ruin]

the characters that have reskins that have different actors is cool and would be cool for prestige

[fossil belfry]

Also what was the gold conversion stuff?

[prime heart]

i have no clue

i dont even know if i got any

[fossil belfry]

I had in my inventory a lightning guy with a sword banner, an icon with same guy, and banana guard announcer

Idk how much gold I had lol if any

[prime heart]

me either

[prime ruin]

like how base Batman is voiced by kevin conroy to roger craig smith with batman who laughs

[velvet pumice]

I assumed the tons of perk currency I had came from the coins

[fossil belfry]

Ah right the 200k perk stuff? Idk

[prime heart]

bruh

[prime ruin]

skin opportunity would be insane if it was a better system

[velvet pumice]

It feels like prestige skins don’t understand the meaning of the word

[prime heart]

i literally only bought 2 characters in the beta lol

[prime ruin]

seriously

[prime heart]

excluding ones that they gave out for free

[prime ruin]

alien jake is another example of having character mastery skins

[velvet pumice]

Alien Jake would be good for a mastery skin yeah

[prime ruin]

they literally have what they need for some of the characters already

[fossil belfry]

That was already in open beta tho

[void hazel]

Doing riffs solo is unfun. You are on your own, and you are severly punished by it. You always lose 1 star for not bringing a friend, and it becomes much harder.

Remove the "bring a friend star" and allow us to bring an Ai with us into battle. Getting 1v2 is kinda annoying.

[prime heart]

the OG garnet color couldve been mastery skin

[tender chasm]

yakuza what did you mean when you said stuff timegated?

[velvet pumice]

Here’s a good example

We literally can’t get agent smith

[prime heart]

I mean you have to wait for daily challenges to get currency

[velvet pumice]

we don’t have enough rifts

[prime heart]

or weeklies etc

[prime ruin]

fr

[velvet pumice]

We need to wait until the rest of the rifts are out

[prime heart]

you cant just farm most currencies or xp

[velvet pumice]

Therefore time gating

[fossil belfry]

It is really awful we are being punished for not having a coop pal indeed

[prime heart]

time gating and grindy are two different things

[prime ruin]

you need complete the rifts fully or atleast to the bosses so you can get 1 tier for that challenge pass thing

[prime heart]

this isnt really even grindy

[velvet pumice]

You have no friends and you must be punished by God himself

[prime heart]

its straight up time gated

[prime ruin]

and agent smith early access is behind level 20 or 25 i think

[velvet pumice]

I thought it was like gem level 12 or something

[fossil belfry]

That early access is quite a lie

[prime heart]

Im gonna be honest riffs were realistically designed to be completed with 2 people

[velvet pumice]

Oh the event level

[prime ruin]

its not even early acces but kinda is

[velvet pumice]

Then let us bring an AI

[prime heart]

riffs are actually free with 2 people but are horrible by yourself

[prime ruin]

you get to play him for limited time

[void hazel]

Yeah it is horrible. The storymode is something you would rather do on your own when there is nobody to play with.

[prime ruin]

but even then

[fossil belfry]

As I mentioned before: you need 20 Rifts.
We have 5 in the menu.
1 difficulty isn't implemented.
Last one asks lv9 gems AND has limited lifes per day!

[prime heart]

even on harder difficulty they are easier in a duo

[prime heart]

wait what do you mean limited lifes per day

[prime ruin]

is that true

[void hazel]

So let us bring an Ai, and get rid of the "bring a friend" star.

[prime heart]

is that a mechanic i missed

[fossil belfry]

Read the Looney difficulty description

[prime heart]

the stupid part is they give you an AI on some levels

[fossil belfry]

Insanity is unimplemented

[velvet pumice]

You see that last bit would be fine

IF it wasn’t making it even more annoying to get smith early

[void hazel]

Yup. It is always for 2v1 as well.

For the Jake the dog one, it is the other way round and you just get destroyed.

[prime ruin]

they just need to give him for free at that rate if there gonna make us go through the pain

[fossil belfry]

I surely remember those gilded reindogs being 2 hit ko machines lol

So pretty sure it isn't balanced properly

[prime heart]

im gonna be honest some of those riff levels are annoying as hell

like the garnet where you take damage for existing

[velvet pumice]

Joker’s rift is fun

[prime heart]

and then get spiked once and die

[velvet pumice]

Anyways I’ve gotta go now

[void hazel]

The ariana level was a 1v1, but she did like 30 damage every time she hit you with a sword, and had really strong Ai.

[prime ruin]

i only found it fun when playing with a friend

[velvet pumice]

But it was nice to actually discus some honest criticism with the game

Let’s just hope they listen

[prime ruin]

by myself it kinda seemed tedious

[prime heart]

they need to or else we are done for

[tough stratus]

man.

[tender chasm]

Rifts giving you bonus points for playing with someone is a bit odd imo

[void hazel]

They just got to let us bring an Ai and remove the friend bonus so it wont be hard to implement.

[void hazel]

Should be the opposite if anything.

[prime heart]

whats even the point of completing the rift challenges

i didnt really understand what the check boxes do

[prime ruin]

story wise velma or batman is with you the entire time so they should just let you have a ai to help

[void hazel]

Skins, and getting The matrix guy.

[prime heart]

why, the real challenge is having friends clearly

[fossil belfry]

I... think it is just a extra gem booster

[void hazel]

🥹

[prime ruin]

you dont even get agent smith fr until he comes out though

[prime heart]

its easier to solo than to have pals

real

[prime ruin]

you only get him for a bit

and we dont know if he'll be free or 6k currency

unless they said you do or not somewhere then i could be wrong

[prime heart]

bruh didnt leakers say there are like 30 characters ready or in progress

they shouldve given us multiple on launch if thats the case

[prime ruin]

i think they should've had atleast more than 5 in the game already before they only release 3 at a time or 1 or however it works between or with battlepasses

[prime heart]

bruh its actually so over

https://tenor.com/view/kasuga-ichiban-kasuga-sad-fail-infinite-wealth-gif-15063016848103616587

[prime ruin]

jason was a selling point for me cause he was free since i had access to the beta

but agent smith not being out and joker being behind 6k is kinda making me feel like if i was robbed somewhere

Banana guard coming out tommorow is good but still doesn't feel like enough

[tender chasm]

League of Legends locks new Champs behind higher prices, but from what i remember, its not as heard to earn the currency

[prime heart]

its not

league has a good monetization and progression system for a f2p game imo

[prime ruin]

its pretty easy realistically since xp is better in that game

[prime heart]

probably one of the better ones

[pure raft]

best monetization for me was probably a certain card game called Runeterra

[prime ruin]

and your able to refund other characters too if you wanted your currency to by another one

[prime heart]

league literally gives you loot crates you can open for free, and character tokens that you can either merge for a full character or use to buy the character at a discount

[pure raft]

you pay for skin... progression is as easy as it gets

[prime heart]

or you can sell the token entirely to get the currency used to buy other characters

[prime ruin]

is runeterra good? i always thought it looked cool

[pure raft]

and the single player with the all Rogue lite deck building and powerups is fun

@prime ruin it's kinda late to experience it at its prime but u got plenty to do

[prime heart]

is that Venom?

https://tenor.com/view/garrosh-gif-24826504

[pure raft]

cards unlock are gameplay related (Play more / Earn MOre) if u pay for stuff it's just WHAT YOU WANT so a deck costs very little compared to say magic arena / you got probably the best card game PVE mode (got separeted rewards that are EQUAL to PVP so u don't lose anything even if u miss out on PVP stuff)

and u earn PLENTY in the week and u can decide which card colors to focus on when getting rewards (u have like reward maps per each color so to speak)

1 week or 2 and u already have plenty of resources for one deck and u can repeat the all thing

[prime heart]

so its hearthstone if it was honest

[pure raft]

it's any CCG if it vomited cards to you

[prime heart]

damn bruh so hearthstone if it was good

[prime ruin]

sounds like it

[pure raft]

also deck cost are relatively low

cause at most u need 6 champion cards and u get one every week u max out your weekly vault sooo even AT WORST we're talking bout waiting a month per each deck and THAT is assuming u don't get enough shards to craft the remeaning cards that are required

so yeah again... very F2P friendly

off topic ended xD

[prime ruin]

real

[quaint cloud]

I just wanna say I really love the work that went into the characters' win/loss animations. Their reactions to winning or losing are a treat but it's a shame I can't see them all the time cause of the daily rewards popping in automatically. I'd much rather prefer to make opening the challenges post-match optional like back in the betas.

[twin river]

I wish I'd get some XP for playing matches as well, not just Dailies/Weeklies. Even if it was "For every 3 games played, get a little bundle of XP" or something. I like feeling rewarded even just for playing, not necessarily just for doing an arbitrary mission or quest.
(There's a reason why games like Fortnite continue to give you little 1k XP quests to do while playing, even if you have no quests left)

[zealous meteor]

the cam zoom is way to much also the removal of attack decay was a bad idea

[wintry kayak]

Is it possible to have a change language option on the settings menu? My Playstation brings it by default on LATAM Spanish and I would prefer English VA

[radiant flint]

Oh damn I should've been putting my complaints in here instead of general

[radiant flint]

Attack decay was too harsh before, if it wasn't fully removed I'd say they should've toned it down a bit

[kindred stratus]

So it is currently may 29th for me and it said that I had to log in one more day to get Banana Guard. And when I did I didn’t receive him

In defence it never said what specific time you had to log in

[zealous meteor]

it does say

when the daily rewards reset

in 2 hours

[kindred stratus]

Oh

[zealous meteor]

yes but with them slowing the game down so much i think the old attack decay was fine

PLEASE speed it up again

but honestly it might also be getting used to it

once you do its not that bad but i prefer the old

200 hours in the beta for them to change the style so much

[kindred stratus]

Yeah I do think the gameplay speed could use a bit of work

[zealous meteor]

and aggresive cam zoom

[radiant flint]

I'm going to log off soon, but Jake and Morty (definitely) need to be worked on. Morty can't even utilize his grenades now, they don't travel far at all if you even manage to hit their microscopic hit box. Also his down air never lands now. Jake just feels jank compared to his old beta self, fair and down special (down special might as well not move in it's state) can barely be angled, and I don't get why the horse in side special does a dip upwards before falling in air if fast fall wasn't already slower. It can't jump anymore on the ground either...

Also speed bad, camera stinky

[zealous meteor]

RIP the old leaderboard mechanic where you could see your rank on a character that was so good

i hope ranked brings it back

[radiant flint]

Yeah I loved seeing stats after the match finished aswell

[zealous meteor]

but i doubt it

[radiant flint]

Add back the ability to turn off team colors
and I also want to fast fall through platforms without pressing jump while holding down

[zealous meteor]

yeahhh

aggresive cam zoom is by far the biggest problem for me

its janky

[gray vault]

i wish i could upvote this or something

[zealous meteor]

what this guy said

best way of upvoting

[radiant flint]

Huzzah!

[zealous meteor]

they need to make this a thread channel

[gray vault]

beta jake🔛 🔝

[zealous meteor]

they slowed the game down to cater it to new players but destroyed the integrity of some characters because of it

[radiant flint]

Beta Jake was the GOAT fr.
He doesn't need to be broken, I just want him to feel good

[zealous meteor]

beta batman

batman now

feels bad

combos are gone for the most part

[radiant flint]

A lot of combos are gone now : P

[zealous meteor]

which is sad

[pure raft]

i honestly don't mind the attack decay thing, it makes certain characters rely on their strong moves rather than force em on using more stuff just cause that one move is on (essentially) a cool down

[zealous meteor]

jason can spam up special undodgeble 0 to 70 on some characters

which is wild

[radiant flint]

Yeah it just needed to be a little less aggressive than it was in beta

[pure raft]

that's the usual day 1 shenanigans, give em time to get some feedback in

[zealous meteor]

attack decay is gone because combos are gone

[pure raft]

also combos being gone or at least reduced gives more sense to not having attack decay cause... we literally have to rely on single moves xD

[zealous meteor]

an option to make dash attacks only happen on dubble tap of a movement key would also be nice

[pure raft]

THAT

please

[zealous meteor]

because im dash attacking alot when i dont even want to

[radiant flint]

I feel like Jason should have armor on some of his slower moves or a better dodge or something, he's so prone to being juggled by fast characters like Harley it's not funny

[pure raft]

i'm trying to get used to just either full stop or flicking back and forth xD

[zealous meteor]

dodge with side special

[pure raft]

teleport with hitbox

not even MKX gave him that xD

[zealous meteor]

you can dodge it will reset the timer for the hold

but you need to space very good for that

[radiant flint]

It's slow and predictable though, maybe if the end had a hitbox, but that may be a little nutty...

[pure raft]

i think hitbox on the start and end might be too much

[radiant flint]

Maybe just at the end?

[zealous meteor]

neutral air is also very underrated to counter stuf like that

[pure raft]

the grabby hand or the axe neutral ?

[zealous meteor]

attack

[pure raft]

ah ok

[zealous meteor]

its a really quick attack

compared to the rest

[pure raft]

down special ain't bad either

air Dspecial

[zealous meteor]

especially if you land on the ground

[pure raft]

it's like a jumpscare

[frozen patrol]

We need to have our game stats again at the end of Matches and can't wait for a ranked mode miss seeing ranks from grinding games

[pure raft]

oh good i dodge NOPE, backward hitbox

[zealous meteor]

neutral special has its use

[radiant flint]

Yeah I don't mind his neutral air.
Just a lot of his moves are too slow, notibly when faster characters have moves that have similar kill power

[pure raft]

i mean he his a chunky boi

[brisk remnant]

Im trying to play on my steam deck with italian steam account, every time I join multiversus and click “enter multiverse” it says unable to authenticate. Try again later I have a wb account and its linked to my steam

[pure raft]

maybe they could balance him out with more damage but then he might kill too easily considering his toolkit is mainly "Hit really hard" and with a decent range

[zealous meteor]

i have 88% recent win rate on 1v1s with jason

hes strong

only got beaten by taz

and taz

and taz

bros up attack is undodgeble as jason

[pure raft]

only problem is that u can get zoned really hard

[simple falcon]

I know that the game just released but they should fix the camera and speed asap. Because I get the feeling that people will lose interest with this new speed

[pure raft]

and u don't really have means to get in and attack minus teleport

[zealous meteor]

those 2 are the most complained about things, give them some time

if they dont the game will die even quikcer

[pure raft]

also one move that i don't find many uses is his ground down special

the grab pretty much

it doesn't cause a big launch , just a big swing

maybe it's designed for 2v2 considering the fact u can slam em around ?

[radiant flint]

I also wish you didn't need to go to the character menu and lock in, sure it combats people switching to their main (which I don't really have a problem with personally).
But the current system is just way slower to toggle between new characters than it was in the past

[zealous meteor]

if you attack while bagging someone youll slam em yeah

its good

[simple falcon]

Exactly

[pure raft]

they just need to set the distance to something like Townsville

i'm not kidding, that distance is perfect

[vapid ridge]

Bring back Stats, change Camera, give us back unlocked roster offline/training

[pure raft]

not too close, not too far

[zealous meteor]

add an option to choose locked or autozoom

[radiant flint]

As much as I agree I've seen a handful of people hard fighting for the new changes and I don't get it

[pure raft]

or they just give us an FOV slider

[zealous meteor]

we need a jason channel asap

[radiant flint]

We need character channels in general

[pure raft]

i don't like the speed personally but i can get used to it... the camera though is a must cause it's way too claustrophobic for me xD

[zealous meteor]

there are

[radiant flint]

Ooo where?

[zealous meteor]

under combos

threaded channel

[zealous meteor]

thats what i said

lol

its true the speed is just something to get used to

there is some fun peeps here anyone down to play i just wanna get some games in before banana guard gets out

[simple falcon]

The decision to have slower speed probably came from people being overwhelmed by everything and every character zipping around on the screen. They should try to find a middle that feels good for both parties becasuse some characters feel strange being this slow

[unborn musk]

I do hope that CO-OP vs AI comes back, that's really feels like the safe place for some players who didn't like how competitive the 2v2 or 1v1 can be. As well having battle pass xp not being exclusively from the missions.

[pure raft]

i mean... that's what RIFT is for them

that and arcade

[zealous meteor]

it got replaced by rifts

[radiant flint]

Thanks found it, kinda buried in with all the other channels you can toggle on

[zealous meteor]

yep

[pure raft]

only problem is that, there's no rewards after u finish missions

[zealous meteor]

there is

character tokes

tokens

and possibilty of other daily rewards

and the event to unlock agent smith and variants 2 weeks early whenever he does come out

[wispy oracle]

They really need to change change the progression like it was with the beta. Legit can't do anymore on the pass because I've done all the missions I can do 😅. So stupid making it you only get pass xp from challenges and that

[radiant flint]

I saw someone in general talk about missing earning season pass xp from fights. Didn't pay much attention when I played today, but if that's the case it'd be lovely to have concidering that last pass in the beta was ridiculously hard to complete

[radiant flint]

100% agree

[unborn musk]

But how they did it is kinda impossible. Like i did 2 difficulties for the Joker one but it needs me to have the gems be level 4 and i got no idea on what's thr easiest way to do when i have the other missions completed

[pure raft]

the obvious... bring a friend and complete everything

[fossil belfry]

It is worse than I thought

[unborn musk]

Easier said than done

[pure raft]

that mission is there to piss people off... rather than allowing people to get em on their own u have to literally bring someone down with ya xD

[fossil belfry]

Cause we got visible 5 Rifts x4 difficulties (asking level 9 gems and limited lives)

But THEN there are the other variants rewards

[pure raft]

@fossil belfry THAT in particular i want to understand cause ... we have a limited amount of acme rewards per each difficulties, so how are we supposed to reach LV9 gems ?

[fossil belfry]

There aren't anymore stuff after that

[pure raft]

waiting for rifts maybe ?

[wispy oracle]

$$$$$

[pure raft]

if it's money then it's terrible design

[unborn musk]

Given how its lasts until July 23rd, i would take there is more riffs after the 5th one which allows you to get those costumes

[pure raft]

like ... even for F2P it would be

even for a F2P there are limits, if they force on PVE that's BAD

[unborn musk]

But i honestly see people just waiting for Agent Smith to be unlocked with the fighter currency or character ticket instead

[pure raft]

u forgot people also want the joker too lol

[radiant flint]

I might have mentioned it already but is "double tap to drop through platforms" still in the settings?
If not I really want that to return

[simple falcon]

Give Superman his up and down throws out of his up special back. People crying about it should not lead to it being removed

[median inlet]

Need character switching back, a rematch limit, and career info

[unique karma]

I miss the faster movement and old player size. Now the movement feels clunky and the maps feel tiny

[median inlet]

A map selection for maps you’d like in your queue would do wonders also. Not a fan of the moving stages at all.

[hidden ridge]

The beta was better

[unique karma]

Beta was great

Even with the janky, broken characters, it still felt so much nicer to play

[median inlet]

Dodging feels almost impossible to utilize. Revert to old dodge mechanic PLEASE.

[hidden ridge]

It really did, They could’ve just fixed the hitboxes and added more characters and the game would’ve been fine

[median inlet]

Attack decay was a huge addition to prevent spamming projectiles. Shaggy should not be rewarded for running to power up neutral kick and sandwiches whole match.

[sacred ether]

Attacks are very slow and nerfed my lebron a lot 😭

[radiant flint]

Also one last thing before I log off for the night, I miss the old character portraits, the new 3d renders look awkward expecially on someone like Shaggy.
They're just headshots, no shoulders, and the character personality barely shines through

[median inlet]

That’s another thing. Why do half of my Lebron attacks seemingly no longer reach half the cast because of height.

[unique karma]

Similar thing with reindog. If a character is close its nearly impossible to hit them with projectiles now

[median inlet]

I get Lebron is 6’6 but jfc if my side+neutral cant even scoop up Stripe, Gizmo, anywhere below my hips impossible to do anything

[unique karma]

Also, am i crazy or did there used to be way more cutomization for controls?

[median inlet]

There was. Saw people on X upset that some legacy buttoning options are no longer present.

[sacred ether]

@median inlet I also noticed this, the attack that throws the ball was nerfed a lot compared to the open beta

[unique karma]

Well at least im not crazy, but its throwing off my playing because i got used to being able to shoot reindog's projectiles with the right stick

[median inlet]

I will give credit, the ability to aim your throw more accurately in a direction IS a good touch. But I’ve had more loose ball kills then combo kills it seems now.

[median inlet]

Button mapping is available if you go to settings and you should be able to set side attacks for stick manually. I had to set mine projectiles also, wasnt about to press RB or Y whatever it was set for

[unique karma]

Unfortunately it only lets me set it to 1 direction of the stick so i cant use it to shoot left quickly if i set to to right on the stick

[median inlet]

Can you not set the second input option as opposite stick direction 🤔

[unique karma]

Wont let me

[median inlet]

That is beyond busted lol

[unique karma]

For some reason it doesnt allow 2 directions in the same stick

[median inlet]

How lovely

[unique karma]

Yep

[toxic imp]

I suggest anyone here with thoughts about the game's speed to look up footage on YouTube and play it at 1.1x and 1.25x speed

1.1x speed actually looks really solid

And 1.25x looks a lot like the beta did

[tender chasm]

how do you play it at 1.1? thought it went up in .25s

[toxic imp]

Good question, I'm able to do it on mobile with a modified client but maybe there's a Chrome extension or something

Or you could download the video (be careful how you do so) and play it on a video player with that capacity

[finite peak]

The Morty gernade changes have to be a joke right? They used to be what made Morty “Morty” and now they’re completely useless. They literally only work against low-level players who walk into them

[stiff bison]

That actually looks amazing. Still slow enough for whatever they were going for, but not underwater anymore

I hope they find a balance so that it's not too slow, but not super fast either

[toxic imp]

I just hope they acknowledge it so I know whether or not to keep investing my time

[stiff bison]

yeah same

I think the game still has so much potential, but just some minor changes can make it amazing.

It's still fun, but all the charm has been sucked out of it

[toxic imp]

It's almost as if they were prepping for a mobile release with some of the game's changes

[crude ember]

GIVE ME MY FIGHTERS AND COSMETICS BACK, NOW

[vivid quiver]

crazy how the store is fully functional but the game so clunky and the netcode/hitboxes are so horrible 🙏

[toxic imp]

The hitboxes are shockingly one of the more well-done areas

I haven't had many connectivity issues, but I've seen that complaint thrown around enough to the point where I wonder how much of it is client-side

[stiff bison]

I tried playing local play with 3 buddies and the lag was actually insane.

My friend was using Jake too and as soon as he activated his up special, he'd win instantly.

[eternal moon]

me too bro, i can’t play server lag too much

[vivid quiver]

hitboxes are not, LMFAO, I get it you said "shockingly" and "more" but no. the game's too clunky for these hitboxes

this the second time they lie about fixing the netcode 🙏

[odd ingot]

disagreed

its 10x better than beta

[vivid quiver]

💀

I gotta heavy disagree with you gang, as a top 50 player, js

the anti-spam mechanic being gone kills the game more

[toxic imp]

Apparently it still exists, the game just doesn't tell you when it happens anymore

It's probably also tweaked, I don't remember everything that attack decay encompassed but the current system is like staling in Smash

[vivid quiver]

attack decay made it so it pushed you away less and dealt more damage

now it does NOT feel like it, deals the same damage and pushes you away maybe same distance IF it still exists

[finite peak]

i can’t stress enough how bad the morty gernade changes are, idk why they would even do this?? 💀 he was fine before. maybe they could’ve atleast decreased the damage a bit… would’ve been understandable. but now they’re slow and feel completely useless — they only work against new players who picked up the game and don’t know what they’re doing

i love this game but man the morty changes really isn’t good

[toxic imp]

It really is strange that there were a bunch of features like attack decay that seemed to be a response to feedback by high-level players with deeper understanding of platform fighters... only to throw those features in the trash?

[vivid quiver]

turn to spin to win gang

[vivid quiver]

just gotta pray they ACTUALLY fix the gameplay before the month is over or game's gonna die before the first month of summer ends 🙏

[loud holly]

HAHAH TRUE

[toxic imp]

What I'd like to hear is why they made each change they made, especially the things they removed that were universally popular

[vivid quiver]

same here but rn just playing cuz free bp

[loud holly]

Some feedback that could help maintain the hype and playerbase, because this is looking very bad for the moment seeing all the feedback and coming from a former top 3000 Bugs Bunny, 200h into the game and PLEASE IF YOURE A DEVELOPPER OR FROM PFG READ THIS !!

Some immediate feedback would be:

-Bring back the old movement, same attack speed, same character size or FOV's, same controls,

-Try making the HUD simpler and kind of similar to the old one, AGAIN, I am speaking for almost every die hard player, every casual players that played a lot during the Beta, so kind of everyone.

Thanks for reading me and thanks for your time,
please tag any developers if you agree with me.
@lucid bolt

[vivid quiver]

otherwise woulda uninstalled

character size ain't much of a problem imho, the main problem andd I cannot stress this enough is the netcode which they lied to us 3 times by now that they "fixed"

[loud holly]

have you ever played the game during the beta ?

char size is so big it affect gameplay

[vivid quiver]

gang, I was top 50 taz

[toxic imp]

There were legitimate issues with the old movement and game speed, the devs just went overboard with their "fixes"

[loud holly]

absoluyely

they shouldve just kept the dodge meter change

[loud holly]

oh i see taz players

[vivid quiver]

idk what you're smoking but I need some of that, bugs, velma and ww were the most broken characters in the game during beta, had the highest win rates and top8s on tourneys, so like? LMAO

Anyways, I'ma make a full review of the entire cast soon or the main characters I play so, I'll see you gang

[crude ember]

HEY PLAYER FIRST GAMES, WARNER BROS IS TRYING TO STEAL OUR FIGHTERS AND COSMETICS! PUT THE PLAYERS FIRST AND HELP US!

HEY PLAYER FIRST GAMES, WARNER BROS IS TRYING TO STEAL OUR FIGHTERS AND COSMETICS! PUT THE PLAYERS FIRST AND HELP US!

HEY PLAYER FIRST GAMES, WARNER BROS IS TRYING TO STEAL OUR FIGHTERS AND COSMETICS! PUT THE PLAYERS FIRST AND HELP US!

[signal socket]

Feedback on the game so far from a beta player:
-I'm missing a lot of features which used to be present in the beta. Simple stuff like post-game stats, staying with a teammate in this team-centric game if you happen to like playing with them, or the ability to do training mode with characters you don't own yet, for example. Even assuming ranked mode is coming later, waiting over a year to get a game with less stuff in it seems... Odd, to be completely honest.
-The new characters seem... uninspired? At least compared to the ones in the base game. It feels like you're playing it way too safe. Joker, Banana Guard and Jason both boil down to "a bunch of normal attacks + a temporary damage buff", which is kind of the bland default role that Shaggy was supposed to have in the base game. A lot of what brought me to this game was the originality of the cast, with some wild ideas like Iron Giant, Reindog having a mostly support-focused kit, Taz transforming you into a chicken, etc... And I am not getting that from the 3 newbies right now. Which makes me especially sad for Joker, a character who's supposed to embody chaos. Right now Harley feels way more chaotic than Mister J :C

[hidden parcel]

xp earn is still kind of abysmal which is what I was worried about after how bad it was in beta…. and now we don’t get any after matches now? hopefully you consider reimplementing it

[spice falcon]

the beta UI was simpler to my eyes and looked amazing overall, i'd appreciate if there was a way to toggle your UI

[unborn summit]

Why on god’s green earth are characters locked in local play and in training.

[twin mortar]

Hi PFG. I played a bit during the alpha and beta, liked the game and was looking forward to its full release. Now it’s here and I noticed something that many also seem to have noticed. I think you’ve just slowed the game down too much. I like the changes you made to the dodges, their spamming made the game feel too random and the stamina change is really good. It seems to me that in order to conquer this chaotic feel you’ve decided to slow the characters down overall as well. This takes out an element of depth to the game that is the variability in how fast each player plays. I think it’s a valuable tool for player expression, cause without it we lose out on the ability to, for example, purposefully slow our game down to suddenly pick it up when we’ve made the opponent feel at ease. This and other ways to use speed as a mixup is a fun point of depth and present in most fighting games. The characters are varied and full of personality, the game is fun to play, but added speed and more gravity would make it so much more fluid in my experience. It would also be nice to see statistics after the match again as well as be able to test out characters in the training mode without buying them.

[spice falcon]

^ Let us play the locked characters in training at least

[polar apex]

basically hes saying the beta was better than this horrible release

[verbal rivet]

it was

winning doesn’t even feel rewarding anymore

and it shouldn’t be so difficult to unlock characters

[loud holly]

+1

[eternal moon]

Basically, I really like the in-match changes, they're good, fun and balance out the game.

However everything outside of the matches is horrible. Horrible by meaning. Winning is no longer rewarding, earning characters is near impossible now, lots of things are unexplained and you're expected to understand it, the menu design is eh, it's overall less player friendly as it takes me hours to try and figure out where I can select things, and character selection is now annoying because I constantly keep forgetting to lock in the characters i choose. And since character earning is now impossible, you need to atleast let us try the characters first so if someone buys a character they don't regret all their hard work and grinding. I am honestly very very dissapointed. It's a fun game, I'll continue to play. But just. Very dissapointed about the state of the game.

[verbal rivet]

and for new players it’s impossible to unlock all characters

[toxic imp]

Really should be able to swap neutral and side attacks like you could in the beta

[verbal rivet]

i’ve been playing for a while ann can’t even get joker

[toxic imp]

Seriously, the more I dig the more features I find senselessly removed

[eternal moon]

And I'd really really enjoy if FFA mode was brought back

And couch Co-op needs to be added

[toxic imp]

And an offline mode

[verbal rivet]

local

i think

[half cosmos]

I feel bad for ppl who got founders n just unlocked everyone in beta lmao

[eternal moon]

You can only fight eachother or bots, can't play online with a friend or family member

[half cosmos]

I bought Tom n jerry with gold n then used one token on Rick. So I have 14 tokens left

[polar apex]

Somehow the game is worse than beta so i have a list of all bad changes

1. No attack decay
2. Dash attacks need a button as they are done accidentally 50% of the time
3. The HUD is worse
4. Bad frames and buggy as hell
5. CRAZY input lag
6. Stupid perk system now
   7.Released the game without ranked again
7. Removed FFA
8. Removed the ability to change binds as freely as before
9. Locked characters in training
10. Messed up movement
11. Messed up gravity
12. Ruined character kits such as arya

[severe fog]

Few things I have:
Please rework all challenges. E.G have to play Banana Guard on Day 1 while it's only unlockable day 2 was not too great, same with Joker when people don't have him.
Personally I hate "invite someone/play with someone quests" not everyone has people to play the game, or that want to play the same mode e.g some might only want 2s, customs or 1s so that challenge can be more annoying especially in rifts.

Winning should reward something, BP xp would be nice maybe a small amount of char currency.

Ui needs to be better. I multiple time went into matches, while I wanted rim. And couldn't even cancel it they just started anyway. That's pretty annoying.
Personally I don't like the shop I find that one very confusing on how things are ordered (personal taste tough)

[kindred stratus]

We should be able to earn Battle pass XP by playing matches and not strictly off quests

[verbal rivet]

you don’t get exp from playing? 😭

[polar apex]

no

[verbal rivet]

somebody needs to get fired rn 😭

[polar apex]

not bp xp

[eternal moon]

You don't get anything

[polar apex]

They have absolutely killed what made the game good 😭

[eternal moon]

You have to pray someone toasts you for FIVE fighter tokens (no one except me actually toasts)

[pure raft]

nope, u only get BP stuff with missions and any resource for that matter minus the characters masteries