game-feedback

[tranquil pelican]

I only ever feel comfortable approaching as Giant when I have the screw shield

[lone hazel]

I don't, but I'm considerably better than most

[tranquil pelican]

Might be, I'm garbage at IG

[empty mountain]

same, my friend has a really good IG he like under 1000?

but hasn't played in forever

i destroy most ig i find and get them at 200 heat

but not this IG lol, my friend is on mental steroids or something

[lone hazel]

Need to really learn neutral... like, a lot. Vs everyone. Optimal neutral. And then also you need to learn advantage and combos, some of which also very character-dependent

But once you do, Giant's not so bad

[quick crypt]

How is overwatch smoother than multiversus on cinsole

Console

[void wigeon]

Overwatch is fully released. Multiversus is in Beta

[quick crypt]

Overwatch is a fast paced action shooter. Multiversus is a 2D Platform fighter. I feel like they could optimize it better on the console, it shouldn't run like that.

[void wigeon]

It is their priority to fix the servers but the game is in Beta so it has stability issues

[quick crypt]

I'm not mentioning the servers, I can understand why those would be laggy. The frames on some maps are horrible on Xbox. I understand that the game is in beta but that can't be used as an excuse to stop the game from shining. I doubt there are many old gen Xbox players that can actually enjoy this game because of an issue like that. The game goes to like 15-20 frames sometimes

Anyways that's the end of my feedback because talking to you anymore won't add anything (no offense of course)

[void wigeon]

If it's in some maps then it's not the servers and no one is using Beta as an excuse, Beta is the reason.

[quick crypt]

I specifically said it wasn't the servers, I'm adding this to clarify

[empty mountain]

not sure it's gonna happen. It runs fine on pc and new consoles. It runs very very bad on the ps4

since it's old gen, it's not a priority

ofc there can be improvements because even ps5 and x series has issues but it's sufficiently good because there aren't many people complaining about that.

[empty mountain]

some people just can't read, it's not your faut

anyway the servers could use optimizing but I feel most of the issues comes from the game and not the servers, we all know the servers are bad but it doesn't explain everything

[lone hazel]

<@&882349260409032746>

👍

[visual cove]

Thanks

[proud flame]

Nerf Stripe. Impossible to play against, he's just too spammy. And his auto-aim gun thing is OP. If your trying to recover with a special move and your in the middle of using it, it just cancels it and gets rid of your move, so even if you dont die to that, you die because you can't recover. I understand that he's experimental, but this is outrageous.

[real rampart]

infinites still exist and the matchmaking is absolute garbage
also nerf harley nair

[jovial dome]

could you please include a penalty for quitters in the game or at least give us the XP after disconnect?

[rare yoke]

garbage mming

^

[crystal quail]

This week's newly added season pass quests have their text untranslated in foreign translations

[jovial cairn]

stripe is an absolute cheat code pls nerf his gun and chainsaw bruh

[worldly tangle]

Tasmanian trigonometry is far too strong. I've seen a Harley live to 160% and a Finn to 180%. Even worse when an Iron Giant can live up to 300% and still be hard to kill. That perk either needs massive nerfs or just being fully removed and replaced with something not insanely over powered.

[tranquil pelican]

That's not because of Tasmanian Trig

[worldly tangle]

It is. Without Tasmanian, I survive until around 130%. With it? Usually until 170-180%

[tranquil pelican]

You can't go by your small sample size. All attacks knock back differently. I would suggest you to test out trigonometrie in the test area and see just how much it really impacts your knockback direction

(dont get me wrong tho, it's a pretty good perk)

[lament perch]

Nerf stripes speed and make his gun do no damage if he can basically do infinte combos he shouldn’t be able to add extra 4 damage with his gun each time, make wonder woman’s down special cleanse his mark and just nerf stripe in general he’s the best in 1v1. You disagree you obviously don’t play. Nobody can match his speed but then you just get stuck in his combo forever he’s a pre release bugs but more op in 1v1 format

[distant parrot]

add a perk that reduces fall speed

[boreal lion]

Some of stripes move list has incorrect descriptions such as up special. I assume what happened is the incorrect descriptions are how those moves functioned at an earlier point of development, later changed them to their current versions, and forgot to update the description

[brittle parcel]

Fix servers w love

[worldly tangle]

Game should be balanced around 1v1s instead of 2v2s tbh

More people play 1s

[left wind]

Reindog tether is more inconsistent than id like it to be,
Would the team consider reviewing it?

[jovial cairn]

NERF STRIPE.

dawg this game sucks like why is it when y’all come out with a new character they’re like impossible to win against

[smoky pecan]

<@&882349260409032746>

[tranquil pelican]

How do you even know that?

[muted tusk]

Exactly its a 6 gb fighter game which should run very smoothly on ps4 it doesn't matter if its old gen but it's still caple of running a fighter game with no issues at all

I'm playing Overwatch 2 on a ps4 with no issues and not a single fps drop

[eternal moon]

Unfortunately for you game isn't balanced around 1v1

[eternal moon]

I want the receipts

As I don't have the data for that

[gentle zinc]

Game is designed around 2v2 so

[shell mirage]

Stripe hits 4m in front of him. Its unplayable against him he ledge guards as well as sky guards as well as wall guards AT THE SAME TIME WITH ONE MOVE thats not how you release a character

[hard solar]

https://twitter.com/Vviseble/status/1581633813565669376?t=PBz4PAQSATxHkbRPVqtjpA&s=19

Please buff his knockback

[lone hazel]

The hitbox doesn't really extend beyond his claws

[tranquil pelican]

It's a support character, mate.

[worldly tangle]

Everyone knows it's balanced around 2s but more people play 1s (or I assume they do, because I need more MMR for the same rank)

[worldly tangle]

Like that more people play 1s? Just a wacky guess considering the fact I need 1400 MMR for a mere rank 60k in 1s but only 1300 for 50k in 2s

[tranquil pelican]

The reason why more people might play 1s is because not everyone wants to queue up with randoms and not everyone has a partner. That being said, 2v2s is the mode that is much more fun

[worldly tangle]

It's more fun because it's not unbalanced

[lone hazel]

Pretty sure 2v2 is played more

Idk why the MMR is so different

[hard solar]

So make it a bad character cuz hes weak? That logic doesnt seem to apply to velma

[tranquil pelican]

It's not a bad character at all

[hard solar]

Yes but hes very easy to punish even if u whiff or not

[tranquil pelican]

You can't give a character everything. Raindog already has insane recovery and teamplay ability together with really good combo potential

[hard solar]

Bro what his recovery is not as good as u think it is it is easily punishable 😭

And his tether is bugged it doesnt function probably so u cant save ur teammate all the time

[tranquil pelican]

Recovery for his teammate at the very least

Also your spike has a very high KB

[hard solar]

Just the d air bro all of his other moves have very low KB

And u seen in the video he didnt die at 40 when he was so close to the ring out area any other character could've gotten the kill there

[lone hazel]

Low knockback doesn't matter if you deal enough damage. People say Reindog deals a lot

I don't think he's a very strong character rn, but I don't think what he needs is more killpower

[gentle zinc]

Got combo'd hella hard by a Reindog in 1v1 last I played it and good amount of them now seem way better than before so I'd say Reindog is fine.

[lone hazel]

Reindog is fine but half the characters in this game are broken, so that does put it into a different perspective

[distant cloak]

Are you planing to add Voice Lines to Reindog like growls or sruff? Dont that he needs it but im curious

[feral steppe]

Please bring 3v3 one day 🙏

[smoky pecan]

Yeah 3v3 or 4v4 would be absolutely hilarious eventually

[hard solar]

Yes but he attacks with his body which can get punished by the whole cast with a simple jab so it's hard to start a combo unless u hit them with a projectile which doesnt work all the time

[lone hazel]

Giant also attacks with his body and gets punished harder with more lag, a bigger hurtbox and more weight, I imagine

I get the struggle, but again, more knockback isn't the solution

[distant parrot]

nerf literally everything about stripe

just make him half as useful

except his down ground because it sucks anyways but every character has a garbage down g round

even better, remove him from the game

[lone hazel]

Giant has a very good ground down normal

[gentle zinc]

For future events I don't think items should cost this much. Nor should it be based on me and the teammate. I understand that its a team game and all but I don't have someone to consistently play this with and I'm sure most don't. It just makes grinding this take longer and i'm not even playing because I want to anymore.

Also please nerf shaggy already this kick has been busted for so long and it gets super minor changes when it gets changed.

[lone hazel]

The Calico Cake alt is a reward for those dedicated enough to earn it, intended to be a symbol of that dedication, not something handed out freely to anyone who plays a match or two a day. That's perfectly fine, imo. Shaggy's kick is easily countered with a simple dodge, too

[vast quest]

Shaggy is fine it very easy to dodge the kick if having trouble with the kick go into training mode practices the timing to dodge the kick.

[gentle zinc]

Sometimes I forget I can do that in this game

The dodging in this game is really what annoys me most because you can cancel so much with dodges.

Which leads to feeling like you can't punish anything and increases frustration by a mile especially with Finn Shaggy and Superman. Though Superman either due to nerfs or the good ones not playing him they don't feel so oppressive anymore.

[eternal moon]

Why does local play need other Xbox/Microsoft accounts?? Can't we just use guest profiles?
Seriously annoying to deal with, for 4 people to play on Xbox in local play, you'd need
4 Microsoft accounts, then probably 4 WB Games accounts as-well

[void wigeon]

yeah, you can't use Guest Profiles. you need 3 other Xbox accounts that needs to be linked with a WB account, because WB account is necessary to play the game

[eternal moon]

That's just plain stupid

[tranquil pelican]

Sounds like a pretty big oversight for local play

[eternal moon]

it kinda is, because Brawlhalla has the guest profile option, so now if i wanted to play a Smash like game with friends, that's gonna be the less tedious option now

[void wigeon]

they probably will add a guest option, but right know I don't think there is

[eternal moon]

there isn't

[lone hazel]

Wait, what? If I wanna play MV locally with my brother, I just press a button, set my bindings and select my character and perks, Idk what problem you're having

You might be using the wrong method here

[eternal moon]

Are you on xbox or not

[lone hazel]

Xbox One, ye

[eternal moon]

a singular xbox account on the console?

[lone hazel]

He's logged into his account and like I stated, I just press a button to join, no interaction with other profiles

There's 2 or 3 accounts, I think, but I doubt that matters here

[eternal moon]

well
that's the thing

he has his account on it, you have to have at least 2 microsoft accounts, BOTH with a WB games account i think

[lone hazel]

And then what?

Are you selecting "custom game" straight from the main menu, or are you going to "play!" - "custom" - "local play"?

If you're doing the former, that's not how you're supposed to play locally :p

Idk if that's even a thing

[eternal moon]

you would expect the local play option in the play menu to work properly though

[lone hazel]

You mean the one in "play!" - "custom" - "local play"?

Where you have one screen with character select and 4 fields prompting you to press any button to join, saying "Local: Teams" in the top left?

If that doesn't work for you, Idk what's wrong

[eternal moon]

Nerf everyone to street fighter tier

Only one jump. No Iframe dodging. Forced to block. No dashes of any kind. All combos are 1f links

[inner shale]

it be laggy 😬

[crisp patio]

pls more badges

i got em all

[fair surge]

nerf stripe immediately!!!

[crisp patio]

pls nerf

rick too

[fair surge]

dude

[crisp patio]

ye

[fair surge]

fricking lizard is so broken rn

not like rick

at least rick is hard to play

stripe is easy and broken as hell

[crisp patio]

yeah your right

[astral canyon]

put fkin arya back to her original state monkey devs cant even fix up s

[tranquil pelican]

complaining about the S-tier character needing buffs
lmao.

[shell mirage]

I disagree, i played with top 100 raindog and he barely dies because of his recovery. He also kills most of the time unless his decayed, but the dmg dealt is NOTHING i have ever seen not even stripe does that much. The reason why he can get punished when attacking with his body is because a lot of the cast has a broken hit box not because he is bad. So buffing him because other characters do not work and/or because not all moves work is silly.

[shell mirage]

Because using our passive now reduces the dodge meter to half and then if you want to ground special then it gos under half... its horrible.

pls revert the dodge changes for Superman his the only one with a fing dodge passive and not it cant be used.

[gentle zinc]

I like this change on him actually. No more spamming superman players or dodge spamming. Wouldn't be an issue had everyone had the same dodges though

[crystal quail]

Stripe's Dynamite perk is left in English in foreign translations, please fix

[severe bay]

Not gonna lie the servers are pretty bad, and also some hitboxes stills feeling like before the hurtbox update, and if rankeds comes out next week hope it's something like a beta and then they end fixing that, hope that is close because that's the biggest issue rn, servers and hitboxes

also the 450 of gleamiun thing, idk if warner chooses the prices but for real, make it 500 for 5$ , I didn't buy a few skins of 500 because I don't want to spend 10$ on them

[void wigeon]

it is their priority yo fix the servers already but the game is in Beta so it has stability issues

[severe bay]

yeah , that's understandable, I've been noticing how they are improving them a bit a few times tho like last update, I noticed I get more times at 3 bars than before where I used to never reach to that

[gentle zinc]

I agree some of the hitboxes feel better some feel worse. Stripe definitely feels like it didn't include him. Tom's jab has been terrible every since the changes. It whiffs when people are physically right there in front of it a ton now.

[severe bay]

ikr , some of the hitboxes stills feeling weird

like if they never got that update, idk if that happens w. new characters as a placeholder which I hope I'm wrong

[gentle zinc]

Also still getting hit by people while I'm physically behind them

[void wigeon]

the hitboxes are not fully fixed yet

[severe bay]

makes sense then, at least some are

you notice when it's actually fully fixed on a character and when not lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015555992429273148/1031496948303265862/unknown.png

[gentle zinc]

Was just hurtboxes but actual attacks still need it.

[severe bay]

aw I can't paste images, you can see it anyways, funny hitbox

[gentle zinc]

Finn & Morty are the biggest offenders of hitting me when I'm physically behind them

[severe bay]

IKR

same with Rick

but also otherwise that the game feels very good rn, the only issue with the halloween event is the price of that jake skin, if it was 9k would be amazing

12k is way too much for ppl who can't grind a lot

I keep grinding on FFA bots because , easy candy

[gentle zinc]

Seems like a lot of people dropped rick after the nerf. And I agree I play daily but the grind is hefty if you want all of the free items

[severe bay]

Ikr, I just never been a big of any new character after Gizmo released , lol ; I still playing them tho, have Rick on lvl 11 already

[severe bay]

rip people who wanted that jake skin, I dont want it a lot since I have cake

[gentle zinc]

I'm at 5K now. I played rick like two games. Decided to wait till he got nerfed but also I'm really not sure if I wanna keep trying to learn the hard characters

[gentle zinc]

I WANT IT but god damn. 12K

[severe bay]

too much, if it was idk 6K?

[gentle zinc]

15650 for everything I think. Wish it was like 6k

[severe bay]

I'm glad they made reindog skin for 3K candy at the end, it was about to be 6k at the start 💀

[severe bay]

too much

anyways , gtg ; cya

[echo frost]

might want to watch how you phrase that

[hardy parcel]

PLEASE ADD LOCAL 2v2 SO WE CAN PLAY 2 PPL ON ONE TV ONLINE

[void wigeon]

there's local, just not Online

[eternal heron]

I think a cool feature would be selecting favorite fighters, and when you choose random it chooses from your favorites

[paper kestrel]

Servers are so **** today

[lofty crane]

please we need better servers

[void wigeon]

it is their priority already but the game is in Beta so it has stability issues

[lofty crane]

what have they said about it

[void wigeon]

they said it's their priority to improve netcode

[lofty crane]

when will that happen

[void wigeon]

it's probably going to get a little better each update until it's fully stable when it fully releases(no date btw)

[shy pine]

The battle pass is an extreme grind, I've bought the premium but I'm not sure I'll get it done by November and I play daily finishing all 6 challenges. Wish for some improvements there.

[lone hazel]

I've completed it like 2 months before the final date, Idk what you're talking about :p

[tranquil pelican]

The battlepass requires roughly 50k points to complete. The dailies give you 600points at the very least. You also have the milestones that each give you 600 points of which there are roughly 30 I think? So that already is 18000/50000. You do the dailies for 2 months (which would be 60*600 = 36000) and you got the pass done with 0 grinding.

Just the dailies which take 15 mins and the milestones are just passively being worked through while doing the dailies

Seems fine to me - I wouldn't welcome it if they made it harder though

[oblique ferry]

They really gotta fix the server netback code because god I'm losing games fast because I just teleport to the floor

[void wigeon]

it is their priority to improve netcode already but the game is in Beta so it has stability issues

[oblique ferry]

The use of "beta" is a terrible reason

Yeah I know the major player base was sudden but it's been a few weeks now

[lone hazel]

I think people underrate how difficult netcode is, especially for a team that's not only new to making games, but also not that large

If it was a problem they could easily solve, it would have been easily solved. It would make them money, it would make absolutely no sense if they just refused to solve the problem

Trust that it's something they're working on, but keep in mind the limitations of the developers and the fact it really is not very easy

The game being in beta is not a reason for sub-optimal netcode, but as long as it is in beta, it's not unreasonable for the game to have the netcode it does

Honestly, I'd say my online play experience with MultiVersus has been better than my online experience with Super Smash Brothers Ultimate and that's a HUGE game

The problem will most likely be solved before the game's full release and we'll probably see improvements not too long from now. Just be patient and enjoy what PFG has made available to us all, which they could have chosen not to, accepting that it's still in the works

[oblique ferry]

well Nintendo online sucks

[lone hazel]

Fax, but still

Things could've been worse

[severe bay]

something cool they should add is , after level 15 as any character, when you get level up they give you 150 coins, that would be an amazing thing since the xp got nerfed by far, and would help w. the progress (prob. this gets better by how far you get with that character) for ex. after lvl 25 you start getting 250 of gold and the same thing again

[manic apex]

this is a great suggestion and hell id take even 50 coins just need some kind of reward for after 15

[boreal plank]

This is Also a great suggestion. Fix your game. Make jake fun to play again

[tranquil pelican]

Jesus christ yes the servers suck but they won't be able to fix them quicker if someone writes it in here every 5 minutes

Igao is working overtime to respond to every pleb that asks when the servers get fixed - all we can do is wait patiently

[boreal jackal]

When will this game have the basically universal monthly premium currency for around 5$ exactly?

I'd absolutely buy that but I'm not going to be spending an equivalent on just a one time purchase of Galleuem.

Sure you have to wait a month and log in daily to get your 3000 or whatever premium currency but it's literally always your best bang for your buck

Genshin for example gives you 3000 Primogems for a month of total logins, 300 once you buy it and 2700 for the month. They even have it to where you can't buy more than like... 8 times since each pass is 30 days and you can't have more than 240 or so days in total for it.

[void wigeon]

we don't know if the game will have a monthly subscription to get Gleamium(if that's what your saying). if it'll have the game first needs to fully released with servers stabilized then they can think if it's worth it. not every game has it and it's not necessary.

[boreal jackal]

Basically every freemium game has it yes since it's not only a great way to get money but daily logins and play bases.

It's why all of these types of games utilize FOMO, to keep getting players playing so they don't miss out on this or that.

It's literally a FOMO people buy for themselves

[proud flame]

Please nerf Stripe. Its gotten to the point where Im considering to quit the game until he gets nerfed because hes so spammy. Just had a gam as a level 24 buggs and lost to a level 6 stripe that was spamming. Its just not fun anymore.

[boreal jackal]

He literally already was nerfed lol

[void wigeon]

Stripe will get nerfed next update

[proud flame]

Thank god

ty for telling me this btw

[void wigeon]

np

[eternal moon]

@proud flame but he will get buffed as well

Skateboard about to be op

[proud flame]

oh no...

[eternal moon]

Actually, when you guys nerf sair, cuz it's he honest here, you guys have so far pretty much listened to outcry. Buff a few of his other buttons a little. Skateboard is a big one. Boombox being a better to ledge guard with my making it spike down if it hits them while it's above them. Some small improvements to dynamite or chainsaw (obviously remove the teleport bug).

Not asking for KB buffs on anything as I like the gimmick of killing with gun

Oh and fix the dynamite perk. Half the time it does nothing for no reason

[eternal moon]

I’m not sure how to put this but please fix attack decay. This game Lowkey promotes spamming. It’s one thing to have a move that’s not able to be punished (every fighting game has that) but it just seems like certain characters can immediately dodge after they throw out a certain move which makes playing the game at a high level very difficult. Take finn for example. You can literally spam charge move with absolutely 0 draw backs. He can not only immediately dodge out of every charge attack but even when you’re throwing projectiles, he can just side b and get rid of it with his shoulder charge. Why? Because he can immediately dodge into another move to give him advantage. Batman can spam dive kick with 0 drawbacks. Batman players spam dive kick because it’s incredibly safe. He can immediately dodge after doing dive kick which makes it hard to punish him.

Create a system in which characters, ALL Characters have end lag with their moves, the game promotes spam dodging and it’s annoying. I’m tired of not being able to punish my opponent that looks like they threw out a very punishable move only for them to immediately dodge after.

[eternal moon]

I’m not comparing it to smash but at least in smash characters have punishable moves. Every character has a safe move and a not so safe move and then a move that just flat out you do it you get heavily punished. In multiversus it’s far from that. None of these characters have anything like smash characters do. I’ve played and I continue to play in a relatively high level and I stg everyone immediately dodges after they throw out one ability that can most likely kill you. That’s my BIGGEST concern with multi

[void wigeon]

you can compare a little with Smash since it's the same type of game but Smash has been fully released for years and Multiversus is in Beta for 3 months

[eternal moon]

Yeah and I get that I’m not tryna be mad hard on the game. The devs listen, Tony tweets and responds to the community, nerfs and buffs continue to come out, the hit box fix etc. They 100% listen and are actively involved within the community. I’m just giving my input as to what I feel like can be fixed and this is for sure one of them

[edgy glade]

i wish there was like a emote preview before you buy instead of a picture of the dance…

kinda like how u can preview the ringouts

[shell mirage]

Every single time i mention this TELL US about the HUNDREDS OF MB YOU SEND OUT

[void wigeon]

what are you talking about?

[shell mirage]

Every single update this game rolls out

[tranquil pelican]

Finn has a lot of whiff recovery. It's just that you can dodge out of attacks you are charging, which, any character can do and I dont think that should be removed

[void wigeon]

Tony said what's for. check #pfg-tweets

[shell mirage]

even when its a new character its just a link to the patch notes and a fing trailer... like what. Its very rarely it will be written in the steam notes.

waw Finally! to bad i have to go on a 3th party to then be sent on a 4th party site just to see what im downloading

[void wigeon]

the big updates is always in the official patch notes website and on Steam News(except 1.02 for some reason) and the small ones, Tony says on his official Twitter

[shell mirage]

Might be added later but whenever i download it its never there i check it every single time with my friend none of us can find it

[tranquil pelican]

I think an intuitive way to see the patchnotes in the game would be great

[void wigeon]

it's added with the update

[void wigeon]

you can open the official Patch Notes website from the game but I think you mean instead of opening the website

[tranquil pelican]

Yeah, in the game not a website

[eternal moon]

I disagree but you’re entitled to your own opinion

[ruby jetty]

having inaccurate trackers is annoying, really disappointed that they weren’t able to retroactively add our progress from when the trackers weren’t working

grinded 300+ wins during that period to farm candy for the Halloween event, feels like I have nothing to show other than the levels I gained (which are useless anyway past 15)

[void wigeon]

weird is only the wins badge is lower than tracker.gg, the other badges are the same. they added what it wasn't counting but wins badge it didn't add for some reason

[tranquil pelican]

tracker.gg counts custom game lobbies as well

The badges don't

[void wigeon]

custom match counts the Damage Dealt in a match(idk if still counts) but I only played 1 custom match anyway, so still didn't add up

[ruby jetty]

I don’t get how they can’t just update the Ringout badge at least, it shows the accurate amount on your career page

[eternal heron]

I really just want BMO announcer pls

Pls^^^^

[edgy glade]

all i have to say rn is that this game has unlimited potential i get excited every time there is an update

[tranquil pelican]

's a pretty good game. 👍

[boreal lion]

Rick and Stripe have exposed a growing issue with the mmr system that causes high level players to be in low mmr matches, making the experience of lower level players less fun for them. When someone starts playing a new fighter, they start at low mmr regardless of what their actual mmr is. even though they won't be just as good on a new character as they would their mains right off the bat, skill gaps will always exist regardless and they'll still wipe the floor with their inexperienced opponents. This becomes a big problem when new characters come out because now there's a ton of higher skilled players wreaking havoc in low levels which also hurts the reception of new fighters. Rick and Stripe may have issues with balancing, but their high win rate and high pick rate can be explained by how much lower the average Rick or stripe mmr is compared to most characters. This will become a pattern and become more of a problem with future character releases as the skill level of the playerbase continues to grow.

[tranquil pelican]

It's not just an issue with newer characters. My usual 2v2 mate and I are in the top 200 total and occasionally, we get queued against players who are in the millions who we then sadly stomp

[boreal lion]

You're right it happens occasionally regardless but it's most apparent with new releases

[tranquil pelican]

I hope this is being worked on. Also putting some faith in the soon-to-be ranked system

[boreal lion]

Idk how exactly to fix this, but maybe it could be like when you start a new character, their mmr is influenced by mmr of your other characters you played. So some kind of player mmr thats based on other characters you've played to be the starting point for a new characters mmr

[lone hazel]

Matchmaking is supposedly partially influenced by your highest MMR on a character already

Even with high MMR characters, it's easy enough to queue into people in the millions tho

[rain idol]

There was a new stage?

[lone hazel]

<@&882349260409032746>

[lone hazel]

Yeah, the update earlier added one

Only available in the lab and custom games tho, iirc

[rain idol]

Oh

[boreal lion]

well if it does then something broke

Are you sure that's in the game cuz it does not seem like it

Stripe also has a much lower average mmr. You can't just look at win rate by itself and not look at related stats and other factors

That does not happen mmr gain is so slow and you start pretty low too

Yeah and what I said explains why it's that high

It's not just the top 1 percent of players. Someone with 100 hours is gonna destroy someone who just picked up fighting games no matter what

Gizmo and Morty are more difficult to pick up and play and immediately get good results with. They are higher skill floor compared to Rick or Stripe. Another thing is the general skill of the playerbase improves overtime which makes the problem much more apparent.

Also the mmr gain is pretty slow even if you win a lot

Top 15% and top 1% is a pretty big difference in skill

[tranquil pelican]

You can get 1k mmr by button mashing

[boreal lion]

It's not really that fast of an mmr gain and that's even the point. It's the sheer volume of players doing this over the course of a few weeks. New fighters naturally have high pick rates. For some low level players thats what they're gonna constantly run into. They're getting matched up against way better players.

[paper kestrel]

Why every character that come out need to be broken the first 2 week ?

[boreal lion]

yeah as time goes on eventually people end up in their proper mmr but that time should be way faster to reduce headache for the lower levels

[tranquil pelican]

If you already have a high MMR character and start with a new one, that character automatically gains much more MMR. I know someone that switched to stripe and had 1800+ MMR after a single match.

[boreal lion]

Void and Nakat put both Rick and Stripe in A tier lol and they are not near the top of those tier lists

[tranquil pelican]

The Multiversus "Pro" server is not much to go by since most of the players there are from NA

[boreal lion]

Yeah idk what this mvs pro server is

Actual tournament winners are more credible than nameless pros

[shell mirage]

he is broken because of his hit box sure

[boreal lion]

One I've already explained why this is wrong and you're projecting about the whole misunderstanding stats but you're not listening anyway

[shell mirage]

But mmr is broken across the board and it also matches you based on your level on that character

[tranquil pelican]

@boreal lion This should soothe some of your worries

[shell mirage]

^that, but also it matches the level which now is a problem since it takes twice as long to level up and get away from the muck

Thats like 50 bad games for new players right there

outside the 25% of games where it randomly decides that a player on their 35th match should fight 2 people in the top 200

:)))))))

^exactly but "people want progression" then make learning perks expensive but every level you get a random perk or a perk relating to your character

[boreal lion]

I wasn't aware it was possible to have that extreme of a jump in mmr that's wild. An issue with that is you can't even guarantee everyone would do that and the main problem is the sheer volume of people playing a new character which heavy increases the odds of low level players facing a ton of way better players.

[frail rain]

the Space Jam Court is a great stage and I'm glad y'all are adding it to online matchmaking but please give us more than 2 new maps by the time S1 has wrapped fr
devs are saying the Black Adam patch is gigantic, and if that includes Ranked then you're gonna absolutely need to include more than 6 or 7 maps to play on

[shut hamlet]

I really like the new theme for the space jam stage and all but I would really like the first one that was made for it. If it can have both it would be great.

[shut hamlet]

Yeah we need more maps. I like the ones we have but some new ones would be great.

[frail rain]

I wonder if they dropped the old one due to rights issues. New one sounds really good so it's not the biggest loss, but still

[boreal lion]

On the topic of stages and ranked I wonder if they'll put every stage in ranked or not

I hope not every stage is legal cuz not every stage is balanced for it and if they make a distinction between ranked friendly stages and banned from rank stages they can go really wild with the banned stages knowing they don't even have to entertain the idea of making it ranked friendly

[ionic jungle]

Can someone explain what slippery when feint does?
From my understanding it allows you to get out of combo hitstuns more easily?
But idk if I'm correct
Someone give feedback on this?
(If you don't know/understand pls don't respond to this)

[worldly tangle]

What's the perks description? Tell me in #game-support

No character should be able to just dodge out of an attack they whiff. It's just stupid and makes the game boring because everyone just dodges immediately after missing and you can't punish them for it. Except Bugs. Bugs is the most fair character in the game tbh

[stark mirage]

Character Perk Presets

[eternal moon]

Ok, so the Space Jam map is really good, but the background music needs to be a 90s dance song

[tranquil pelican]

Spacejam map IS a great stage but absolutely DO NOT ADD IT TO ONLINE MATCHMAKING unless you plan to release ranked without the map.
For competitive games, it is terrible. Favours some characters much, much more than others.

[hard solar]

His recover is just used for speed if they try to use it off stage to recover it is very easy to read and if u just follow on reindog while hes using his recovery to make distance just follow him and it will be easy to punish because reindog does alot if he is far away from u

[hidden parcel]

the shaggy sandwich ring out daily should not be a thing for people who don’t have him LOL I have wonder woman from before it switched to him and I’m not getting a new character to do a daily

[willow skiff]

Request. Class based queuing.
IE how overwatch has it but without limit. Just if someone wants to have a certain class teammates they can be paired with who they want for team synergy.

[lone hazel]

Your dodge goes farther if your dodge cancels your own attack animation. So, if you get a combo and dodge in the middle of it, you go farther

[ionic jungle]

Ohh dam yeah i thought this at first but after re reading it i convinced myself it was to dodge out of cancel hit stuns.
Yeah i been using this wrong for sure
Appreciate it brother

[lone hazel]

Np

[serene monolith]

RANKED PLS

[median wing]

so, the tracking bug got fixed but is there a possibility that we can get the lost trackings added? like i got my tom & jerry from 0-15 during that period and it says 0 wins on on the badge it's kinda annoying

[void wigeon]

Ranked is coming soon

[void wigeon]

Besides Ringouts all my badges got added the lost progress

[median wing]

the progress of my win badges didn't get added no clue abt the ringouts

[tranquil pelican]

Please actually make the custom lobbies customisable.

• Handicaps: I wanna be able to customise how much damage/knockback I deal/take. Similar to Brawlhalla where I am able to lower my damage output to 50% and such.
• Hitboxes and Hurtboxes: PLEASE give us the option to enable Hit- and Hurtboxes. (at the very least in the lab)

[shell mirage]

^this, also servers and hitbox first! The 1v1 when playing superman is not possible! I cant grab anyone,everyone just teleports not where they say they are and everyones hit box is the size of New York.

[valid burrow]

Ability to shuffle characters announcers based on toggled favorites

A rick and morty announcer pack with Mr. PBH would be awesome, as a character would be a plus lol hes got some karate moves haha

[hardy python]

fix servers

[void wigeon]

it is their priority to fix the servers already, but the game is in Beta so it has stability issues

[hardy python]

who gaf fix servers

[rustic saddle]

fix servers

nerf stripe fix his hit box

[cinder nimbus]

Take trophies edge 2 out of the ******* game, holy ****

[boreal plank]

Reindogs air up special should do damage to opponents when he's rolling on ground

[rare yoke]

mming rank 100s should stay within 100s and not deviate at all

[severe bay]

MMR system should be removed of unranked when rankeds comes out (and also if possible make it fair, it's stupid lose 20+ of MMR by 1 match and get 15 in 2 wins)

[tranquil pelican]

Please fix the Finn up special. 30% of the time my opponent just flies out of the attack without getting hit by the entire move. It is incredibly unreliable now - it's always a gamble if I kill my opponent with it or not

[severe bay]

imo Finn up special should be reworked

[rare yoke]

nice bots in non bot matches

[tranquil pelican]

Ever since the superman update I sometimes randomly get booted from matches claiming my connection was lost EVEN though while I am streaming/in discord

Unacceptable

[void wigeon]

superman update?

[tranquil pelican]

Ah, the little patch they did where they removed the end lag of his flying grab. That was the only gameplay change so I just called it that. They also added the space jam map there

[void wigeon]

oh

[main axle]

Anyone else get annoyed when kids tbag you? Popular games like Overwatch take steps to remove toxicity while this game actively promotes it with emotes and tbag spam. Might be in the minority here, but the tbag spam is unnecessary and annoying. Ruins the game. Makes me think this is really just a kid’s game where tbagging other people are the norm. Bought the premium founders pack, but not going to support the game anymore when my time playing is getting matched with immature kids who enjoy annoying people

[tranquil pelican]

If it makes you angry, those people succeed

It's just a game. If someone crouches, let them

[main axle]

Why have the tbag spam feature though? Does it add any value to the game? Pls tell me

[tranquil pelican]

It's funny

:)

[main axle]

Yeah when I was 13 other kids my age thought it was funny, but as an adult that’s cringe. Game is full of kids so it make sense why it happens a lot. Ironically, this feature caters to kids while adults are the ones who can afford skins and founders pack, so yeah PlayerFirst let the kids keep crouching each other while the player base who has money will put it towards something else worth their time

[tranquil pelican]

Maybe you should take a step back and not get so angry at kids having fun.

Jesus christ you sound so entitled

[main axle]

You must be 13 then okay we get it

Keep crouching then if that’s fun to you

[tranquil pelican]

Fine if you wanna believe that

[main axle]

Not even sure why you replied to my comment when it was feedback for dev. You didn’t add value to the discussion just go back to crouching, not hating all love

[tranquil pelican]

I dont think they should remove that, so that's also my feedback

[main axle]

Could have just said that from the start without attacking someone else’s opinion

If that’s fun to you then keep doing it, not sure if you’ll make friends with other players but at least you get the satisfaction of annoying them

[tiny snow]

fix the servers

[void wigeon]

it is their priority to fix the servers already but the game is in Beta so it has stability issues

[empty mountain]

after this even i think they got a bit more income so the goal might be closer

[lofty crane]

bros really malding cus hes getting tbagged

why doesn't he just, idk, win?

id only be mad about getting tbagged if I was constantly losing

[lone hazel]

Often times, people who t-bag are mad themselves so they wanna drag you down to their level

I think friendly t-bagging is a thing and a reason for it not to be removed

If it's removed, people will just spam emotes more instead

Just laugh at their misery

[tranquil pelican]

TBH the emotes are really good in this game

And even if they remove t-bagging, people will find other stuff to get mad about so why bother?

We'll end up with you not being able to input anything after the game is over at this rate

[lone hazel]

I just wish I could use stickers without it putting me in the "Tease" emote, arguably the most arrogant and annoying emote in the game (and I love it)

[main axle]

Yeah when I win I don’t tbag the other team like a child… since you enjoy toxic behavior just keep doing it lil bro then you’ll mature as you get older

Also @lofty crane notice bud how in the lfg channel, other players say they want to group up with someone not toxic? So yeah there are other mature people who play, but you do you bud no one’s stopping you. It was just feedback for devs to consider since they want to have a positive community

[lofty crane]

I'm not gonna let the habits of little kids restrict me from having fun

[main axle]

Why have it in the first place though? Makes no sense what you’re saying, it’s like you’re advocating for toxic behavior. But seems like you do it so I guess that’s why you support it. It’s all good man have a good weekend doing squats in a game instead of the gym

[lofty crane]

are u mad because the game allows you to crouch

that's a fundamental movement option in most games

and now ur insulting my physical health because some kids pressed down on a stick and it upset u

u sure ur not the toxic one?

[main axle]

See how you’re having a hard time explaining the value of tbagging? There’s none haha

[lofty crane]

what

I'm just saying that's it's a very high expectation of u for them to just remove a fundamental feature

the value is that they have fun

clearly u aren't having fun and that's completely ur fault

[main axle]

So instead of playing the game with a friend, the fun is found in tbagging other players with the hopes of annoying them? Yeah good argument bud

[lofty crane]

what

are u saying there's only one way to have fun

who says they aren't playing with a friend

ur questioning the maturity of tbagging but if u were truly more mature than the tbagger, wouldn't u be the bigger person and let it go?

[main axle]

Yeah it seems like you have fun through toxic behavior which people on here said they don’t want to group up with someone like you. If trying to annoy other people is fun for you, then yes the devs should keep it

[lofty crane]

I don't even tbag

I'm in the exact same position as u

but I don't let it make me angry unlike some people

[main axle]

Yeah this comment gives off the vibe that you would be toxic in a game which is why you’re supporting toxic behavior haha

[lofty crane]

why isn't the ability to crouch removed in literally every other multiplayer game

I'm not supporting it

I'm saying that it just doesn't get to me

I simply have thicker skin I guess

[main axle]

I meant this comment. It really does give the vibe that you would be toxic in a game which is why you’re supporting toxic behavior... I was just giving honest feedback because other players that support the devs want to play with people who aren’t toxic too

[lofty crane]

dude theres absolutely no shot that the devs remove crouching

what's next, jumping?

[main axle]

@lofty crane all good buddy it’s their game and they have the final say. Again, was just offering feedback to remove tbagging/crouch spam based on what others were thinking. But here you are trying to bring other people down haha it’s cute

[lofty crane]

ur calling me cute

is that not the same thing

ur trying to bring me down

[jade jay]

everytime i come back to this game it gets worse lol. servers are at an all time low in terms of performance, and thats saying something consdiering how bad they were before

[brittle parcel]

Yes. Please fix servers

[eternal moon]

I find it very bizarre how you can't send a friend request to your teammates but you can friend the people you fought against in the "Recently played with" menu
(Your teammates don't even show up in this menu)

[void wigeon]

I think recently played with is bugged

[worldly tangle]

A buff to damage % perks like Wildcat Brawler and Lumpy Space Punch seems necessary to make them worth using. With Shaggys up special, he only gets 1 extra damage every three hits using Wildcat Brawler. It should guarantee at least 1 bonus damage for most characters.

[worldly tangle]

You can find your teammates in the match history section and friend them there

[eternal moon]

Match history section? Where's that located?

[worldly tangle]

Career, top left corner of the screen. Where your global rank, match history, level and the option to change your icon is located

[eternal moon]

Oh oki, awesome! Thank you so much!!

[glad thorn]

I think a 4v4 mode would be pretty fun. We'd probably need bigger maps but having 8 players on a map made for 4 would be a chaotic amount of fun.

[boreal plank]

I really hope server and hit/hurt box fixes are the priority for this update. No unnecessary nerfs and buffs for anyone except stripe

[void wigeon]

hitbox/hurtbox and servers won't be fully fixed on 1 update, they'll will fix a little each update

[boreal plank]

Good thing this isn't the first update then.

[void wigeon]

probably will be fully fixed only when the game fully releases

[boreal plank]

Can only hope

[lone hazel]

Matched into a 2s game where everybody else combined had only about as much MMR as I did and lost 20 MMR because my teammate was AFK and died 4 times... great game design

[kindred stratus]

Looks like they finally fixed the exchange candy for gold feature

What do you wanna know what I don’t like about it, Why should I grind up all the way to 500 candy for 10 gold each, before this patch,we used to get Half of the gold depending on how much candy we had.

It should’ve stayed that way, it’s not fair
Because by the end of the event, I was going to exchange all my candy for who knows how much gold I would get, because I wanted to work towards getting the Fred style PFP

Now it’s going to take even longer!

Do you realise how hard it is to getting gold?
It’s not fair

What I’m trying to say, Is can you please make it easier to get gold, or at least make exchanging candy for gold worth it?

[void wigeon]

Since Stripe patch was 500 Candy per 10 Gold. It never was another way

[lament perch]

Please just nerf stripe

[void wigeon]

he will be nerfed next patch

[eternal moon]

nerf stripes sair hitbox to be less disjointed

retool gun, 1 bullet, 2 second CD, can be charged for greater KB+slightly buff its base kb. target debuff lasts 2 seconds already. this means he can only ever use one bullet. from far away, so if you dodge, you are safe, if he charges it reading your dodge, it has greater KB. now bullet with target debuff has counterplay and involves reads on both sides.

give skateboard armor when full charged, let you cancel out of first part into flip faster

fix the dynamite perk

give boombox greater delay (this will let you use it as a trap and edgeuard more effectively

if you nerf chainsaw disjoint, decrease startup frames

[tranquil pelican]

These are very good suggestions

[eternal moon]

noice

[earnest swallow]

1v1 ranked should be 3 stock instead of 2. There is nothing competitive about rushing the first stock and than make an evo comeback on your sec stock

[brisk wave]

this^

[dark tapir]

I really hope they do this in ranked

And in general

2 stock is just so bad imo

[kindred stratus]

Do you just hate it when people disconnect when you win a Best two out of three
Right before the Victory screen?!

I feel like there should be a feature where If anyone Purposely disconnects At the very end of a match too many times, they get a temporary ban
Like how long they have left until they can play online again

[copper pendant]

one of my biggest complaints about the game for me is the color options, they give you like 10 options that should decide colors in settings but at best you get outline color
like if shaggy defaults to blue he's gonna be blue and i can't do anything about that

[copper pendant]

can we get an option to flip the scoreboard, I'm used to my points being on the left not the right

[shell mirage]

The game is unpleasant to play in 1v1. The abuse of hit-boxes and infinites and weird knock back is insane. Decay needs a huge buff, just using 2 attacks outside of spam to then continue spamming another 6 times is dumb. (Maybe regenerate dodge meter or replenish some recovery when the move is spammed for the 12th time).

Characters in high elo need another hard look. You buff Arya because you look at low elo only, while in high 1v1 its JUST Arya and characters that can be abused the most. Obviously why wouldn't they use the broken parts of the game to their advantage, i don't blame them i blame you for making it so and then allowing it to go on, even SUPPORTING it in various ways.

Such as releasing broken characters, yes i understand its a play testing environment but we should be testing values and workings of the moves of existing and new characters and if they are broken or not. NOT tell you what you already know. Which is that Stripe hits 4m away from his head or that you release new characters with better and better infinities etc. It is next to impossible to gauge if the character is broken because of his move set or set values OR if its just his hit box. We cant say with 100% certainty, which is what we should be doing in open Beta.

You know that being transparent about the process of making hit-boxes and move sets that allow infinites would make almost everyone quit. You hide behind "Beta" to justify EVERYTHING, including the servers! I really hope for the sake of this games potential and our love for it you comprehend that when you leave Beta only the expectations and standards go up, your skill and the way you run things will stay the same. It all must be improved before it leaves Beta.

[main axle]

Brother they’re trying the best they can. Give Tony and his team credit for being the most responsive devs in the industry. I will say though that the feedback that you and others offer here are all coming from a good place, it’s just constructive criticism. I think in the beginning when the game had a large player count, they could have had ranked, guilds, and voice chat ready. Like you suggested, most people treated this game as a full game, not a game that’s technically in beta. So players started leaving because of the lack of features.

They also started leaving because of the xp controversy. Most people felt like it didn’t respect player time. It also felt like that feature was added to inflate player time and DAU metrics. Ironically, it may have increased churn rate metrics.

Another part of the lower player base right now is the competition. We can see other high profile games losing player base. Players are saying that Apex Legends is going downhill like Fortnite because of competition from Overwatch 2, Warzone 2, and other titles. They also added a controversial trans character instead of just adding core features to the game. So players are leaving.

Just seems that in times where there’s so much competition for player time, key in-game features have to be ready and the players’ experiences have to be consistently positive. Especially for adults because they’re the target audience that can spend money and finance a free game.

I think kids who are still in school have a lower opportunity cost and will still play regardless, but adults with a job, relationship, and other responsibilities don’t have time to wait for features when they can just wind down with another free-to-play game that’s polished

[shell mirage]

Players come and go those games bottom line wont move much if at all. Working hard as they can does not matter if they work to create new broken content without fixing what we already have.

Games dont fail because they have lack of modes to play in, thats just a misconception. 5 basic modes are all you really need for a multiplayer to function (ranked unranked 1v1 2v2 free for all). Players that leave due to lack of modes are players who jump games constantly they are not your main target. Sure they would be nice and wonderful and adding them will bring in more players. BUT the player base will be split meaning less players and longer queue times for individual modes.

If the game experience is positive and there is transparency with the devs that also listen to the people playing the game, that game wont die anytime soon. (There is a game called Deceit and is only on Steam, you can STILL find a game in under 30s even though it has 2 modes ranked and unranked and is glitchy as hell).

[empty mountain]

the last one is unfair since PFG didn't justify anything with Beta, that's what the people who defend them say. You gotta be more factual

[empty mountain]

The kids you mention actually do have a lot of impact financially because they have parents obviously, who are adults and have purchase power and ask their dads to please lend some money to get this awesome jake skin. The kids are the ones who are impatient and leave due to the game not "being fun". There are a lot of factors in this and ages is not the main issue. Everyone has their reasons

[void wigeon]

Beta justify the servers but true, no one ever said everything justify with Beta

[frail rain]

yeah PFG has never used the "we're in beta!!" defense, that's what people defending their every move use

[tranquil pelican]

tbf that is really annoying

[frail rain]

Oh it absolutely is don't get me wrong lol

[eternal moon]

And three stocks gives you more time to adapt like smash. Two stocks kinda limits you from learning your opponents playstyle and tactics

Do you think we'll see a Rock Black Adam variant, or will we see rightfully negative articles from gaming sites about terrible marketing?

[brisk wave]

2nd stock just gets passive af

[eternal moon]

It does. If you want to make ranked and do it competitive then three stocks would be best. Two stocks doesn’t give enough time for me to adapt to my opponent

[torpid quiver]

Is School Me Once (the projectile block perk) not working on Stripe's gun intentional or is it a bug? 🤔

[void pine]

gun isn't a projectile

[tranquil pelican]

I know you have tried this a lot but PLEASE try more to stop infinites

It's the worst to go from 0 to 70 in hitstun - absolutely no fun in that

[eternal moon]

Stripes bullet is basically a non projectile non melee attack line strike (this is why if someone is in front of your target you hit them instead).

It benefits from zero projectile perks and is subjected to zero projectile perks

[torpid quiver]

Oooh, ok ok I see, thanks for your insight 🙂

[digital star]

people are quitting at the end of the match so we arent able to get the candy corn...

that should really be fixed\

[scenic nimbus]

how the game make with me a player that have 12Million rank while im 20k ranking is so scripted this game they want me to losing in any cost

no balance in matchmaking ........

[tranquil pelican]

Ranking is indeed scripted, my friend.

[scenic nimbus]

why easy......

[hasty river]

Make multiverses available for Nintendo Switch plz!!!

[gentle zinc]

Probably more a Nintendo said no thing or they just didn't wanna force trying to make it work on there

[real rampart]

nerf stripe

[void wigeon]

he'll be nerfed next patch

[shell mirage]

PFG never said anything and thats what the mods say in their difference. PFG has been silent this entire time and Tony is a outsider that saddly got dragged in as a face of this giant mess

In reality this channel if not the entire discord server is created to mitigate the player rage. Complaining in a official server makes you feel better like they will listen, but in reality that is not true. They gather general feedback from a 3th if not 4th-5th hand. I wished they defended themselves or ANYTHING, but not radio silence.

[shell mirage]

Because fixing takes 1. money 2. time 3. manpower its easier to tell the PR team and discord mods "say its in Beta" to shut us up. thats why

[eternal moon]

Game needs a WiFi filter so I don't have to suffer playing against people using it

[tranquil pelican]

countersuggestion: Let no one play if they use wifi

[real rampart]

this mmr system is trash, i gain 4 mmr for a win but lose like 20 if i lose
also fix the servers

[tranquil pelican]

Please fix Finn's bag attack

It's like playing a roulette, you never know when they just leave the attack for no reason or if they get hit

It's great, I love gambling

And nerf Morty ffs, him true comboing someone from stage off stage into down airs is just not okay

[eternal moon]

So long as ranked is a revised system it will fix this issue

[scenic nimbus]

if i block someone i can find him anyway in queue or not ?

[void wigeon]

you can find. Blocking is to make him not be ypur friend

[scenic nimbus]

so shameful the excuses they say..... this game is vrey light it weighs nothing = easy to fix not like cyberpunk that so heavy

[scenic nimbus]

ahh ok but if they make a button to block someone to in queue its so logical to avoid troll players and afk in next games

[void wigeon]

blocking to not play with someone doesn't make sense because you can just block anyone you lose to and you'll never play with them again. Your point makes sense to troll and AFK players

[void wigeon]

you get Candy but it only updates after restarting the game

[scenic nimbus]

yes alright this option makes sense to troll and afk and Griefer that losing yr mmr for free

[void wigeon]

imo is better to not have it so people can't block just anyone who's better than them then to have it for people who will actually use it right but most people won't

[tranquil pelican]

I think it would make sense for 2v2 tho. Block someone and they can't be your teammate again

[scenic nimbus]

yea i was talking about 2v2

[scenic nimbus]

exactly

we sweat and in the end someone of those troll afk griefer that makes you lose all mmr you have earned by sweating

like in one min

[void wigeon]

If you could block to not be your teammate only but as an opponent you could find him than makes at least more sense

[scenic nimbus]

and maybe u can block to some counter picks

spammer

we just talking.. they will never do this option I have only seen it in soccer games

[empty mountain]

thats an curious point, the devs, if anything, hear reports from the mods employed in this server you're right. It would be a gigantic waste of time to read every message in this channel and the bugs channel. HOWEVER even if the devs do not read any of this, the channel still serves as a venting channel. It's not about the devs hearing what we have to say, it's about others hearing what we have to say and gather "sympathisers". Only then it has a chance of reaching PFG. We have a voice when we are together not individually.

PFG cannot say anything. Whether they promise the game will ne fixed or they promise a date for an issue to be fixed or whether they apologise in the end only results matter and excusing yourself will just bury you deeper into something you do daily.

[crystal quail]

Recap of the translation issues I found (I play in Italian):
-The "I'm Pickle Rick!" icon is translated as "Sono Sottaceto Rick!". It should be "Sono Rick Cetriolo!"
-Steven's Tiger Millionaire skin is translated as "Tigre Milionaria". It should be "Tigre Millionaire"
-Watermelon Steven is translated as "Anguria Steven". It should be "Steven Cocomero"
-Both of Stripe's unique perks are left in English.
-The weekly season pass missions from the last two weeks have been left in English.
-All the names for the Halloween event items (except for the Pumpkin Patch banner and the Witch Velma and Calico Cake skins) are left in English, as most of the shop interface.
-The Calico Cake skin is called "Jake" instead of "Cake Calico"

[shell mirage]

You couldnt maybe think of adding a block limit in that case? Its a good suggestion. You mistake suggestions we make as fully functioning tested out and working without issues, in reality, we need the community to help reach its potential.

[shell mirage]

Devs dont make decisions executive manager/s do. Mods can chose what to report or not report anything, or only things that they personally like. The views some of these people hold makes me think no one even interviewed them for 2min. "This game shouldn't be comparative it should be casual why do people play so hard and care so much about winning or losing " actual mod of this server.

Inteire point of a Discord server for a game is to be in touch with you player base NOT to be used as a PR tactic to mitigate damage caused by incompetence. Or to start mobs or revolutions for change as you suggested. Not interested in forming a cult and going on a crusade against PFG, just wonna be heard. (How can you not see a problem with "Only then it has a chance of reaching PFG" is beyond me)

Further more this system of messengers to the king is horrible; the mods that tell devs about changes players want, can then chose themselves if they want to send it to the manager, and THEN that manager decides if he wants and what he wants to send to the executive manager AND THEN they decide if they want to proceed or not.
Like every Chinese company the game development is run by the PR team. That is their system which is the most profitable, if the player base is stable and it was popularized by Riot and others.

[empty mountain]

When i said devs I included the whole PFG team, that means executive managers and CEO's and their mothers too

What the discord is and isn't used for is all up to whoever makes it. I am in offcial servers where the devs also don't say anything. There are announcments but that's about it from their part.

And like I said, PFG is working on the game, they can't spend their time looking at infinite messages in discord.

I'm not even saying the mods tell the devs anything. Just that they might be doing it. OR not. They have a whole bug site you know.

They have a site where you c an report bugs and vote. That's how it reaches the devs in reality.

They are probably not as organized as you think. They are a small team that just got put together. It's a new company but they can't be older than 5 years

I am talking based on assumptions here

I think they are fair assumptions tho

[shell mirage]

The PR makes it which is what i said... its a PR tactic. My point is its not used as it should be because they refuse to communicate or listen. Your ridiculous notion that you have to look at the feedback all day is funny. Typing "Stripe, pls fix" in the search will tell you all you need to know as well as what players want.

[shell mirage]

I think i made it crystal clear how i think they are organised any less organised then that i think we can safely pronounce them brain dead.

[empty mountain]

I disagree. It's a terrible innefective way of fixing your game not to mention that this discord is not even 1% of their playerbase probably

how many users does it have?

[shell mirage]

LMAO you believe in a platform that has a majority of a player base on it? You have no clue what you are on about.

[empty mountain]

You made it crystal clear that you have no idea how it works. We are working on assumptions here. You have no clue how they organize themselves. I think you should think before you speak

At least i'm aware of it

[shell mirage]

This server has 31k members

[empty mountain]

Can you read?

and how many users does the game have?

[shell mirage]

We can not say how many the game has. For the numbers we have more players are online on discord then on the game.

[shell mirage]

What exactly am i assuming here? lmao

[empty mountain]

So with that said explain what you mean by me "believing" in a platform that has a majority of the playerbase on it? Was I wrong? This discord is a sample of the playerbase

[shell mirage]

any social platform containing a games player base is a fraction of the player base, pls make a point

[empty mountain]

You are assuming the innerworkings of PFG chain of command and how they organize themselves

[empty mountain]

You didn't explain what you mean. Your English confuses me

[shell mirage]

Thats how they must operate... no company has no leadership, which is what you are suggesting.

[empty mountain]

i'm not suggesting anything

that is your assumption

[shell mirage]

You have not made a point. You stated a simple fact that has no relevance. "Discord has a fraction of the player base " and? what is your point? your statement has no meaning.

[shell mirage]

"You are assuming the innerworkings of PFG chain of command"
-YOU^

im not assuming, the chain of command has to exist in that way

[tranquil pelican]

tbf a bit more transparency would be good. Do these suggestions make it to PFG or is this just a channel for us to vent so we feel better?

[shell mirage]

the amount of devs and menagers and executives and the hierarchy ladder can be bigger/smaller but thats how it operates. Workers manager who manages them and a executive who allows more funding and reviews their decisions(etc). Unless its a small Indie thats because there is no need for hierarchy

"Its in Beta" "the devs are new" "its their first big game" is irrelevant

their PR team surely is not brand new

[empty mountain]

I didn't think it needed explaining. You said that they can look at the discord and know what the players want. I'm saying that this discord is too small a sample that they can simply just base everything off of it. WHat does this mean? It means this discord does not matter. I can't say it doesn't matter at all. There must be some info that goes to them or they wouldn't even bother. There are plenty of unofficial servers for games which don't have a discord.

In conclusion, your assumption is that this discord was only made because the PR team wanted to diffuse our anger. And i'm saying you're right, this server is not big enough to matter but some info must come through regardless. Twitter surprisingly has nothing so there's only this discord and youtube for feedback. But the feedback they get from here is not the same as their bug report site. Therefore, this discord is not simply a PR strategy. And if it is so what?
ON THE OTHER HAND WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING so this discussion is meaningless

Anyway I can't argue with you forever.
It would be nice if they heard us but just have some common sense please. I'll let someone else talk some sense into you

just a final fyi how they operate is irrelevant, we simply don't know. Hierarchy? doesn't matter we don't know what decisions they made and what they read and don't

[shell mirage]

By your logic there is no platform that can possibly be used to determine if players like the change or if they do not. Also by your logic the science of statistics is make believe, i strongly suggest you look in to it.

[empty mountain]

godamn man

all you do is criticize and you don't say anything useful

Real life is not all sunshine and roses, people have disagreements, some work better than others, some break the game from time to time. Schedules are rescheduled every time.
What matters are results

doesn't matter how transparent they are

[shell mirage]

I did. i told you to learn, educate yourself on statistics. You are being hilarious

[empty mountain]

this is not productive criticism

if you don't know what I mean I suggest you either stop replying or say somethin useful for once

[empty mountain]

wherever did you extrapolate that conclusion?

you're generalizing something that is only a part of the whole

[shell mirage]

You can not be criticized. You come from a place where i would need to find and interrogate 100% of the player base and make them take a survey because you dont believe in statistics. You come from a place where you need hard copies of the companies inner workings and a in person interview with the CEO under oath to tell you the most obvious things. A person like that can not hold a normal conversation let alone a discussion

[empty mountain]

you know me so well pal.

[shell mirage]

I know that you hold your opinion and defend it by asking others to provide proof i mentioned above

[empty mountain]

And what statistics are you exactly saying exists here?

This is not even the topic i initially started with you know. I don't care about it.

[shell mirage]

statistics can be made with far less then 31k people. Do you genuinely think they climb every mountain in China to find close to 100% of the population to ask if they like a policy or not

[empty mountain]

It's too bothersome to even go back to my original point

[empty mountain]

seriously, it doesn't matter. You're fixated on something irrelevant

[shell mirage]

its done ALWAYs with a fraction of the population. We are talking about relevance of the discord that you said SHOULDNT be relevant because it has a fraction of the player base

so i said no platform has a majority or close to, of the player base.

Its a PR tactic and all i said is that i would like to be heard

Not just me but thousands that share my view XD

Almost no one thinks Stripe should attack 4m away from his head

[empty mountain]

Listen this conversation is meaningless. you are only trying to find faults in my arguments. The fact is this discord is small and the statistics and what people say here is irrelevant because like i said, and if you paid attention. They have a bug report site

they already know about stripe

through there and through twitter

[shell mirage]

Its not a bug mate XDDD

we are not talking about bugs

[empty mountain]

fam

[shell mirage]

this is FEED BACK not #bug-reporting

[empty mountain]

you're not listening

i'm not talking about that channel

[shell mirage]

You are talking about bugs and how they have their own 1st party report system

[empty mountain]

clearly you haven't checked out the bug report site

[shell mirage]

that is irrelevant, because we are giving feedback on changes.

[empty mountain]

or tony's twitter account

[shell mirage]

Tony has nothing to do with the dev team. He became the face of the game because he is well known and knows how important listening to feedback is

he also holds exactly 0 power over them

he can not make them any more transparent

[empty mountain]

ok so info comes quicker through discord than what tony listens to eh?

we have more power than tony

it's not like i know what he does

[shell mirage]

We have NO power and MOST importantly NO influence which is the point!

[empty mountain]

I can't know his relationship with the others but I assume they at least talk

i'm pretty sure they know all about stripe through twitter

[shell mirage]

Shouldnt the people that play the game have influence over the game?

[empty mountain]

some influence yes

[shell mirage]

we have none

[empty mountain]

You don't know that

[shell mirage]

we need a mob and a boicot

i do LMAOO

[empty mountain]

How do you know they haven't read a single word on that damn twitter account

I already said this discord is bascially meaningless

and that is my opinion

I can be wrong

[shell mirage]

because not a single thing outside of a mob has EVER been implemented OR even acknowledged let alone considered. Which again is the point

[empty mountain]

mob?

[shell mirage]

mob
/mɒb/

noun
1.
a large crowd of people, especially one that is disorderly and intent on causing trouble or violence.

[empty mountain]

sry i'm not understanding the phrase

ok

[shell mirage]

You need a large crowd of people willing to cause "trouble" to the company to have any change or response from the PFG

[empty mountain]

So they should gather data and compile every opinion on discord

since it's just a sample

I'm sure they are aware of some things people are saying. They just pay it no mind since everything is contradictory

[shell mirage]

All i can say is look at statistics look at other servers with a huge player base and look how they handle things. People vote on changes Brawl gave every creator a direct line to the developer team that DIRECTLY influences them.

[empty mountain]

that's their policy

[shell mirage]

Its a policy that came in place BECAUSE of discord

because they voted

they read and cared.

they listened

none of that is present here

and every time i looked in the feedback for the past month it has ALWAYS been the same things

[empty mountain]

clearly this discord doesn't have any of that. The patch notes haven't even been updated since the first one.

Voting is a vastly different thing than reading 10000 messages a day from people complaining.

[shell mirage]

so idk what you are on about, you are confusing peoples random opinions and suggestions with people suggesting fixes on problems they ALL agree are there

[empty mountain]

voting gives statistics

not random searches

[shell mirage]

How is fix stripe a random search XDD

[empty mountain]

that's where you're wrong. People's opinions are contradictory

[shell mirage]

sure, the way they want to fix the problem is but 1 way of fixing the problem will clearly be more popular

[empty mountain]

i don't understand your phrase after is

ah

[shell mirage]

Let me just say what you propose is not possible (getting the vast majority to vote and then agree on something) and the "let them do their own thing" has proven time and time again as a bad option.

A player base without 0 influence dooms the game

so much so NO game is even made singleplayer or multiplayer without gathering information. Btw this is done with around 100 people playtesting it before release

despite that game having 13mil + players after release

the statistics made with 100 people reflect the views of 13mil people

[empty mountain]

if everyone agrees on something then obviously if you make a poll on it. The majority will have to agree with said poll. It's a much quicker way than random word searches on a specific character that may not give you the info you're searching for.

[shell mirage]

almost the same % hates and likes how the game feels and plays

[empty mountain]

From my knowledge. Companies that seemingly don't listen to their player base give you a questionaire from time to time to gather that info.

[shell mirage]

Taking what people say here in discord and making a poll is how it should be done when a game wants to listen to the player base

[empty mountain]

that discord server you mentioned did so through that voting

[shell mirage]

searches in discord help create polls

then those polls are voted by the community

[empty mountain]

gathering and analysing that data takes time. I can't say i understand any of the analysis. But i know it takes time.

[shell mirage]

it can then be extracted to other platforms for a more accurate result even though that will depend on the overlap

[empty mountain]

now this is where the criticism starts being constructive

[shell mirage]

it takes time but not listening to players is far far worse. Paying a mod less then minimum wage would work perfectly

and make them happy

many will do it for free especially with this game

since people love it

they see what it can be

[empty mountain]

I can see many things that can go wrong with that

[shell mirage]

like?

[empty mountain]

taking in opinions when the games doesn't have their intended number of characters

what they're working on right now could be compromised

I mean the balance of a character could be ruined and they'd have to postpone a release because they changed an important part of some perk. Idk.

Stripe will get nerfed

just not now

[shell mirage]

sure it will cause delays but people rather play a working game then a broken one

[shell mirage]

actually tomorrow

but the hitboxes are a bigger problem.

[empty mountain]

Everything will just delay more and more. I think they're focusing on their pre set objectives of releasing these characters they were probably already working on for long before they were announced

[shell mirage]

sure

but again its radio silence if they released a road map to us we could influence it or let it happen if it is reasonable

what Tony is doing is trying to influence them in to fixing at least something but thats not enough

i dont care about new characters i care about enjoying the game

[empty mountain]

League of legends is very open about that stuff but i'm not sure it was always that case. The fact is riot games grew a lot. I think the fact this team is small and new is relevant to this.

I fear they are overworked

You may not have it but for me the game has a gamebreaking bug. I cannot play reindog and that means i don't get the reward boost from the skin

that is game breaking

[shell mirage]

i play Superman so it doesnt affect me but i know its horrible

and the amount you need to play is insane

[empty mountain]

They haven't fixed it yet.

[shell mirage]

people are asking for a farming buddy its horrible

yes and we wont know if they will before the event ends

[empty mountain]

things have an order. They only update when it's scheduled. The site i mentioned actually shows that this bug is under investigation

that is actual feedback

for us

we don't know if it will be fixed tomorrow

[shell mirage]

thats good but we dont know if it will be in tomorrows update

[empty mountain]

but we know they know

[shell mirage]

also if you need help farming candy i would be happy to help

i have a superman skin so its doubled

[shell mirage]

yes that is something

[verbal pecan]

nerf stripe somehow cuz he’s the most ez best edge camping char

[void wigeon]

he's getting nerfed next patch(maybe Thursday since they announced Black Adam and Arcade today(it's too late to announce for tomorrow))

[verbal pecan]

thank god

[inner thorn]

Shaggy neutral special when charged doesn't give armor until halfway through the attack where if you get hit there the attack stops and you lose charge

Remove lebrons neutral attack from getting the ball or make it slower

[tough trellis]

This game has been great so far. Have no issues on the game. These characters are amazing. Keep up the good work.

[main axle]

Lol truth hurts

[cyan patrol]

30 day average for steam players is 3.8k. Not sure about Xbox or ps numbers

[distant parrot]

ip ban all smurf accounts

[tranquil pelican]

Sadly, it's not as easy as that

[tranquil pelican]

This game gets progressively worse with every new character release

[main axle]

True it’s cause devs don’t read any feedback here or respond with any acknowledgment

[scenic nimbus]

no life for those smurfs that boosting multiple-account for selling

[crystal elbow]

En español de Latinoamérica,Los perks de stripe están en inglés

[tough ledge]

separate UI language from voices language

[vestal thorn]

The servers need some serious improvement

[void wigeon]

it is their priority already but the game is in Beta so it has stability issues

[scenic nimbus]

devs dont forgot to balance the matchmaking *******

and maybe add option to block in the matchmaking afk-trolls-greifer players report option dont working i reported many of them and i dont see any punishment i still found them again and again

[lament perch]

Im getting kicked out every single match due to the servers crashing for me

[empty mountain]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/418794731410030625/1034646805687828573/unknown.png

maybe but they get feedback

[vivid quiver]

It's been so long since the game released and the servers still aren't any better, it's sad really

[soft falcon]

Nerf shaggys down air along with finns

Its frustrating getting killed early

Even if you know you are better then the other player

Spiking in general

Off stage game shouldnt be just mashing down air

[karmic trench]

Leveling up characters now is painfully slow 💀 and the lag doesn't make it any better

[void wigeon]

the game is in Beta for 4 months so it has stability issues but it's their priority to fix the servers already

[willow skiff]

Punish dc. Or at least still allow winners to get the W for rank ups

[real rampart]

bro every time i start a game i just start teleporting everywhere

fix matchmaking as well

[willow skiff]

Phin feels like a bruiser more then a assassin . Class change maybe

[real rampart]

its so annoying that i gain only 4 mmr from a win but lose 20 from a loss
please fix the matchmaking

[real rampart]

i just got matched against the same top 3k in the world twice in a row when im top 100k
and i lost 13mmr each time 💀
wtf

[main axle]

Skill issue

Jk I feel the same as you

[void wigeon]

they post every PFG/Tony and Multiversus tweets in #pfg-tweets and #multiversus-tweets. Also this chat is related to the game. what you wrote is supposed to be in #discord-suggestions

[shell mirage]

state of Superman and others like him, Superman at high elo 1v1 and 2v2:
Superman does dmg with combos in 2 ways. When they are on the ground:
This requires you to (FAtk -> UPAtk) follow up with up air and then read them for neutral air if all connects you get 21 dmg out of it. And secondly IF you hit laser you need to break your back to get less then 50dmg in, again if everything connects. This in a 2v2 is even harder to do since it takes soooo long and you are running/moving through the air all over the map. Characters that shield allies pull them or themselves cancel this already weak combo before it can even reach 10 dmg, OR they simply attack the superman who spent 1 to 2 jumps and 1 special and his entire dodge meter to deal around 50dmg if not interrupted.

Compare this to Batman, Harly, Rick, Morty, Stripe, Gizmo, Arya, Jake, Shaggy, Finn, Tom and Jerry, Bugs ,Black Adam?.
Some characters mentioned do maybe less dmg like Tom and Jerry. He will do around 15 dmg in LESS then 1 second which is 72% of the entire superman combo which requires a read while this one is also true AND it gets you Jerry on the filed, or do Jerry slingshot which does around 47dmg and is done 200-300% faster then the superman combo of the same dmg. All the characters have something similar from infinites to throwing swords/rangs and other projectiles for a true combo, to characters that have insane range and dmg on that ranged attack as well as knock back like Jake.

Which means EVEN IF you get your long combo in and you hit everything they can keep you at bay until they gain dmg advantage with range. Even those that dont have it like Stripe their hit box allows them to do this.

[real rampart]

the fact that double downair kills at like 40 on any character and is practically unavoidable is a problem
i had some guy on like 120 percent and he managed to double downair me and i just died

[real rampart]

bro this game actually hates me, like it only makes me teleport across the blodoy map when im winning

[eternal moon]

It’s worse on mansion

[real rampart]

exactly

[eternal moon]

The fact mansion even exists rn is mind boggling I hope to god that the map isn’t in ranked definitely one of the worst 1 v 1 maps in existence

[real rampart]

fr man
maps with small walls make dair spam even worse

[tender trout]

I believe a change to the mode selection screen would be awesome to see in the future. Having all modes in a horizontal line makes the modes that are offscreen makes said mode(s) inaccessible. I think changing it to a grid kind of arrangement would make everything equally accessible with big recommended tags on the main modes that people play.

[tranquil pelican]

Every single day I realise more and more that this game is fcking trash, man...

[edgy glade]

i wish you could set the bot in the lab to take no damage so you could practice the same combo over and over without the bots damage getting too high and you have to reset

[jovial cairn]

add the option to buy battle pass tiers

[coarse dune]

lots of feedback on imbalance in the game, but how about getting these servers to not suck?

[boreal plank]

Take away tazs ability to fall and move when he's trying to eat you or give jake the ability to do the same thing.

[subtle dove]

Finished the battle pass. Now what? Daily and weekly challenges completely useless now as they only provide battle pass xp

[void wigeon]

they are thinking of adding rewards past the Battle Pass for people who completed

[willow skiff]

Can confirm. Tony commented in a tweet asking about battle pass completion bonuses. Im looking forward to it. Wish dailys gave gold or something . Earn xp boosts or emotes. Extra tokens for skin unlocks like the Halloween event

[candid ridge]

make the first hit of Reindog up air send the opponent into the second hit please. i'm so mad this move disconnect ALWAYS

[fresh sinew]

FIX YOUR LAGGY ASS SERVERS

[void wigeon]

it's their priority already and the game is Beta so it has stability issues

[soft falcon]

i dont like how if you run out of dodges you basically just get juggled into oblivion

[soft falcon]

also spiking shouldnt kill so early its frustrating how the offstage play in this game is to just mash down air

[tranquil pelican]

You gotta be more patient and wait for your opponent to start their dair animation, then you dodge upwards

[boreal plank]

After next update please focus on playtesting characters before releasing them stripe has been announced since beginning of the season there is absolutely no reason for him to be op

No whiff punishment makes it extremely hard to enjoy fighting against him even if i do win just a straight mood killer

[broken helm]

You can loop on bugs 6x with no attack decay, did they just disable decay on bugs only?

[brittle lance]

im so sick of having to delay my queue only to get the same opponent over and over anyway

[granite light]

there should be an option to leave the match midway and get replaced by like a bot or something

[eternal moon]

i see where you are going with this but i disagree. At that point if this was the case then people can just freely perma farm MMR off of bots

are u sure? last time i heard someone was perma farming off bots and thats how he stayed in high MMR cause they were cheating

[void wigeon]

just understood what you meant sorry

[eternal moon]

oh lol its cool

[void wigeon]

You meant the bots replaced right?

Because the Bots matches doesn't give MMR

[eternal moon]

no like this guy i think was adding bots or was going againt just straight bots. It was something like that i dont think the bits replaced anybody i think he put them there so he can climb. Its very easy to add bots into multi

idk i cnt remeber i think he was an arya player that was cheating by going against bots or something

he climbed off those bots

[void wigeon]

If you play against Bots doesn't give MMR. If he was adding Bots but as players than it would still count as a player

[eternal moon]

yeah then that might have been what he was doing not sure

[void wigeon]

you can test anyway. just play against Bots, it doesn't give MMR. That's good because people would get MMR by playing Bots which would make a lot easier

[soft falcon]

💀

[oblique ferry]

I just wish the development about characters were more clear. It's impossible to build hype for a character if we don't even know when he's being released and just gets released on a random wednesday .

[oblique ferry]

Like I know breaks and delays are important. But it just feels a little weird we keep getting delays.

[boreal plank]

Ngl the game had mad potential but got killed due to bad mechanics and servers. Shouldn't have been released would have kept the hype and much more if it wasn't released so early.

[void wigeon]

3 characters were delayed and 3 weren't. we don't get delays every time

[oblique ferry]

That's half of the characters being delayed also the more recent ones got delayed. Not the older ones.

[void wigeon]

actually Black Adam is the first character to be delayed since Gizmo. Rick and Stripe weren't delayed and it was the last 2

[tranquil pelican]

They should have delayed Rick and Stripe considering how busted they are

[oblique ferry]

Yeah they were both the META for a while

[tranquil pelican]

They still are

[oblique ferry]

Stripe was delayed right? so I don't get your point

[void wigeon]

Stripe wasn't delayed

[oblique ferry]

Alright nvm

But even then. I don't get why they don't give us release dates and black Adam was supposed to release 25th but got delayed

[void wigeon]

Black Adam didn't get a release date besides "this week"

[oblique ferry]

He got a delay so this not very "this week"

He got a delay after they said this week

So its probably not this week.

[tranquil pelican]

Sometimes, development doesn't go as planned. Release dates change depending on how development goes

Unexpected changes and trouble happen all the time

[oblique ferry]

Yeah and it's a small team with extremely high expectations. I just wish characters would be released more clearly

[void wigeon]

it's not probably. it's not this week.

[oblique ferry]

It's not this week.

There you go!

see, not that hard

[safe barn]

TONY. OR WHOEVER MADE THIS SKIN. PLEASE READ THIS. PLEASE.

The Frankenstein Iron Giant skin is 15$. I choose the character and get a cool little sequence where he screams and stuff and the skin looks awesome. He has his jaw hanging and he looks all creepy. High hopes, right?

But then I load in game and he sounds like happy old iron giant, lands and his jaw is back to normal and he is smiling. His attacks are the same. Not even like, a green vibe or scary Frankenstein vibe to them. Just regular Ig but with a different skin.

I win a game. He is just doing the regular pose where he stands and smiles (Evil Scary Frankenstein btw). When I am idle he stands and smiles. When I lose he sits down and plays with metal. Like where did all the anger go?

Now let’s look at a reindog skin that is 0$. Select screen is different, win screen he takes a skeleton arm out the ground. Haven’t seen the lose screen but, that’s already more than what was added for the IG skin. It’s upsetting. I paid 15$ for nothing. Please add more to this skin. Us IG players need it 😢.

[night belfry]

Nerf Stripe
Take away gun knock back and give chainsaw attack a decent cool down

[void wigeon]

he's getting nerfed next update

[night belfry]

Whats getting nerves from stripe

Nerfed*

[void wigeon]

idk, but they nerf/buff characters in big updates. so just wait next week when update drops

[night belfry]

Aight. Did they announce it or was leaked some how

[void wigeon]

when the update comes?

[night belfry]

No the stripes getting nerfed

[void wigeon]

they nerf/buff in big updates and new characters usually gets nerfed and they know people say he's OP, so it's safe to assume he's getting nerfed

[night belfry]

Ok so where just assuming

[void wigeon]

yeah but it's 99% chance he's getting nerfed

[eternal moon]

Sair hitbox will be nerfed if nothing else

[rain thicket]

Add Asia Servers

[void wigeon]

they'll stabilize the server before adding more regions. probably only when game fully releases

[rain thicket]

U know when that is happening maybe an estimate?

[void wigeon]

no, sorry. I'd guess next year

[rain thicket]

Damn alright thx anyways

[void wigeon]

np

[tranquil pelican]

Day 327 demanding for them to stop stupid infinites

80% in hitstun because your opponent has an attack that loops into itself is garbage game design

[urban wadi]

-Fix hitboxes for certain moves
-Fix servers
-Nerf characters such as Morty, Rick, Taz, Shaggy, Stripe, Stripe, Stripe, and Stripe (basically any character who can spam the same thing over and over)
-I don’t get why you nerfed Tom and Jerry
-Add more perks

• When are you fully gonna release the game?
  -Make more maps

[eternal moon]

Shaggy lol
Taz LOL

[haughty hare]

Shaggy is the most played hero in top 100/500/1000 in 2s

2nd most in 1s

[void wigeon]

if you're talking about the leaderboard, it's based on MMR and not most played character

[haughty hare]

Nah talking about the top 100/500/1000 overall MMR players

Of those players, most of them play shaggy in 2s, Arya in 1s

With shaggy being 2nd most used in 1s

[void wigeon]

you're talking about the leaderboard in-game then. It means that Shaggy is the highest character MMR for most people in Top 100/500/1000

[haughty hare]

someone posted a data mined graph on Reddit showing the pick rates for the top 100/500/1000 players based on their MMR.

[void wigeon]

wdym?

[haughty hare]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersus/comments/yfvlqr/character_popularity_for_mmr_above_top_1005001000/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Just in response to the guy loling about shaggy needing nerfs.

Pretty obvious he’s overtuned

[void wigeon]

they probably are just getting how many characters have from Top 100/500/1000 and putting in a graphic. leaderboar doesn't mean popularity/most played character

[lament perch]

Nerf Batman

[eternal moon]

Popular character doesn't mean best

His score in 1s are also irrelevant

But what I read from this chart is stripe needs buffed obviously

[oblique ferry]

Maybe make something so when you decline a rematch you get like 30 coins taken away or something small since it gets frustrating when everyone you lose to declines

[haughty hare]

Popular among the top players is telling tho. WW was nerfed because 2 ppl won tourneys with her

[void wigeon]

there's nothing that shows which characters are more played and has more popularity

[void wigeon]

actually you can see which character has more uses and percentage of Pick for 2s and 1s on tracker.gg

[haughty hare]

M8 the graph I posted shows pick rates among the top 100/500/1000 players

To simplify the 1v1 graph shows among the top 100 players, about 25% are Arya

[void wigeon]

no it doesn't. Just shows the highest character MMR from those players

[haughty hare]

You are incorrect

[void wigeon]

that graph is based on the leaderboard in-game pretty much that shows the highest character MMR

[haughty hare]

The in game leaderboard goes up to 30

[void wigeon]

you can use tracker.gg to see the leaderboard

[static oxide]

Is there gonna be another stream to watch that isnt region locked because id really like those rewards but i cant get them right now because of that

[boreal plank]

Whiff punishment for specific characters and not all is a perfect example of how to ruin a game.

Garnet a whole brawler has no need for armor. Armor should be reserved to tanks and brawlers should have the ability to break armor.

[dreamy widget]

I heard we are getting the Warner brothers water tower as a map . We already have space jam 2 as a map . I hope they are both introduced to standard play as well and not just custom .

[meager acorn]

Can Iron Giant please get buffs when it comes to dodging and defense? I can’t play 1v1s as Iron Giant anymore because I’m always stuck in infinite combos I can never get out of even with dodge perks on.

[tranquil pelican]

That will never happen

[exotic fern]

I just bought the pumpkin spice ringout when this came out and now youre giving it away for free? This seems kinda unfair In my opinion. Can I least get something out of this?

[kindred stratus]

Nerf Arya stark

[urban wadi]

Literally one of the biggest companies in the world and they can’t fix their servers.

[void wigeon]

it's PFG's first game and small dev team

[urban wadi]

Endorsed by one of the biggest companies in the world then.

[sonic orbit]

Why am I a top 3k player fighting a top 200 and top 1k with a top 70k as my teammate

[void wigeon]

it doesn't matter

[urban wadi]

Kinda does.

The whole point of giving the green light for this game was for WB to make more money. Obviously, they can’t do that if there’s a lot of problems, as those are push factors. People don’t like it when their game lags and they lose.

[thin nymph]

Seems unfair NA Is only getting the twitch drops, someway to compensate for the other regions / countries???

[urban wadi]

People also don’t like when you can spam a move over and over and lose.

[sonic orbit]

Yah the games unplayable , most of the casual players that made up the majority of the player base when the game was as its prime say they drop the game due to the lag

Sucks bc game will only be in its prime once and they kinda just threw it away

[urban wadi]

It’ll be like Splitgate, as the servers overflowed and now it’s dead.

[sonic orbit]

Only way I see them making a come back is completely fixing servers and then announcing a groundbreaking character

[urban wadi]

Either that or just balancing characters, I agree.

[void wigeon]

people started playing knowing it's a small dev team and the game in Beta with stability issues. they'll fix the servers but it may take a while since it's their first game with a small team yet but it is their priority. I do understand getting a little disappointed with it tho

[sonic orbit]

I started playing knowing it's a small Dev team that's why I'm sticking with it but most people don't know or don't care unfortunately. I feel once the servers are fixed this game will be really great

[gentle zinc]

This game needs less dodging and less move spam. Along with the better servers cause man too many characters can get away with spam and the dodge system only enhances it

better hitboxes would also help with that

Like no hitbox should be big enough to where if I try to dodge behind them I get hit still when I'm physically and visually BEHIND them. Assassins need their extra damage taken back they're better than most of the characters already and the passive just got removed and dealing with two assassin characters is just not fair. Then Finn can increase his speed EVEN MORE

[haughty hare]

Tired of playing against obviously unbalanced and easy characters on extremely laggy servers with teammates ranked 1-13 MILLION while swinging directly through opponents and having my hits ghosted while enemies can totally whiff and connect and still hit me even when I dodge

And losing 40 mmr per loss while gaining 0-4 per win

[gentle zinc]

yep

don't really care about the mmr part but agreed

[crisp relic]

everything is so unbalanced it’s actually weird and unsettling

[soft sail]

@eternal moon stripe is a crutch character

[glad sonnet]

Shaggy is so flipping easy to win as and he's honest OP, plase fix him

[keen spruce]

No feedback for the game, i'm good with the game... but the drops on twitch are a damn joke, there will be no way for me to get them, besides the main multiversus stream (which i cant watch because of "laws, ya know?") there seems to be no damn channel which got drops... so nice job on that one

yeah whoever was in charge of the drops on twitch... wouldnt be surprised that he loses his job after this... no one with drops is on, except for the official multiversus which i cant watch and i was like "ok im gonna stream myself and get the drops that way... good idea... yeah!" but i cant activate them... so whoever did this, did a helluvajob

[kindred stratus]

I hate how it lags when you’re doing bot matches
It shouldn’t lag when your not fighting real players

[void wigeon]

it's still online so with servers not stable yet it may lag sometimes

[boreal plank]

Remove iron giant honestly

Him being able to break a combo, take lots of damage and the be able to use those bolts to interrupt a combo again is beyond bs. Doesn't help his hitbox is bigger connects hits outside of the range it should be.

[shell mirage]

^agree

also How do you get the rewards from the stream after they are claimed on Twitch?

[void wigeon]

https://multiversus.com/en/scoobtober claim it here

[eternal moon]

Iron giant is awesome and they are bringing more huge characters later, so enjoy

[void pine]

kind of a weird suggestion, but I wish the yellow perks were always changes instead of upgrades, it's cool when no yellow perk is also a viable choice

[proud widget]

Its not working for me, every time I press sign in, I sign in on the website where it says sign in and it still says sign in even though I Already signed in to my right account. I tried this multible times and it still doesn't work. I already did watched the twitch stream and it said I claimed the rewards but when I tried to click the rewards it sends me to the wb games login screen, logged in and nothing. tried it again and still nothing. I went into multiversus to see if I got the items and Nothing. I followed the instructions and I got nothing..... Thanks twitch...

[void wigeon]

If you can't login in the website clear website data or use another browser

[proud widget]

I did that I logged on my phone it didn't work, I Logged on my computer it didn't work.

[void wigeon]

you cleared data and tried another browser and still didn't work?

[proud widget]

yeah

[void wigeon]

weird

[proud widget]

I sat through scooby doo for nothing.... I mean scooby doo isn't bad but still. 😠

[void wigeon]

talk to WB support: https://go.wbgames.com/WBHelp | usually clear data of website or using another browser works

[tranquil pelican]

Alright now I know PFG is reading NOTHING that is in here and have NO concept of how to balance characters. They nerfed Finn's neutral special, the slap

[proud widget]

I'm on that rn

[tranquil pelican]

HAHAHA GUESS WHAT - NO Rick or Morty nerfs and only ONE nerf to stripe: one of his perks, not even the character

Suck a mean one, PFG. Holy crap...

[celest skiff]

Just use a different browser.. common issue

[proud widget]

@celest skiff

[celest skiff]

Hi!

Good to see a shovel knight fan 🙂

[proud widget]

Yeah, I played all 4 of the campaigns. Despite being my least favorite character to play as. MY favorite character from shovel knight is Plague knight.

[celest skiff]

You playing Shovel Knight Dig at all? If you need help on the site let me know - People report just switching to Edge/Opera/Firefox/Chrome whatever you don't normally use should fix ya up

[proud widget]

I haven't played dig yet. will soon

[shell mirage]

Tonny had a stroke. Please someone check up on him.
Finns slap being the only Finn move which can be punished because it takes enough to recover
Tony: "High-Five had nearly instant recovery previously." nerfs it
Other Finn moves: 👁️ 👄 👁️

[eternal moon]

make servers better

nerf stripes sair to the ground

There you go, proud of you

[brittle lance]

start announcing your events in game, login screen or whatever. i literally just found out about the twitch drops and it just ended.

we dont all check social media all the time

[oblique ferry]

Honestly this patch-note is alright. Characters that needed changes and nerfs got them. And I'm happy about it

[tranquil pelican]

Finn slap nerf shows they have lost all touch with reality

[oblique ferry]

Yeah its a little confusing

Also for skins that cost about 2k+ could you try to make them look really cool? Like don't get me wrong they look cool, but for like the animated series: it's a nice reference but it doesn't have much details, with the price it's a little weird

[rustic saddle]

please fix servers

nerf stripe, batman

[void wigeon]

it's their priority to fix the servers already but the game is in Beta so it has stability issues. Stripe and Batman got nerfed for today's patch

[oak spire]

They made Morty’s Dair horizontal which means it’ll kill later. Pretty big nerf considering it’s his only kill move

L that they didn’t touch Harley and Velma and almost completely ignored Finn and Jake

[meager acorn]

Multiversus developers try not to nerf Iron Giant with every update when he desperately needs dodging buffs challenge (impossible)

[scenic nimbus]

they need to give him the speed of dodge only for iron giant we hope some day

[lone hazel]

Revert Iron Giant's grab frame data to what it previously was. Since you cannot grab after a down air anymore anyway, it doesn't matter if it's made slower. It actually makes no sense.

Additionally, allow Iron Giant to dodge in the grace period where using a grab after a down air is impossible. It's perfectly fine that exploits like that infinite are being removed, but if it comes at the cost of frame safety on an already severely unsafe move, without any compensation, it's a terrible solution. Fine if you don't allow us to grab, but allow us to dodge and prevent that dodge from allowing us to grab.

As a general rule, avoid changing things in a way that breaks the norm. There may have been several better solutions to the infinite than this and the inability to use one specific move after another feels incredibly artificial and unintuitive. It feels like a bug and adds unnecessary nuance. This complaint also refers to static cooldowns, for instance. It's weird that only one move in the whole game was changed to be static for the sake of fighting a problematic strategy. It's unintuitive for the players, a fair few of which are completely unaware of the fact bolts are on a static cooldown and take perks they gain no benefit for.

[shell mirage]

xp books are useless just spent 6 for level 5.... like hello?

[hidden parcel]

hope the battle pass grind is easier next season because this has been the worst and most miserable out of any games I’ve played

[void wigeon]

obviously depends how much you play but it was pretty easy to finish the BP for me. I only played to do all 6 daily missions everyday. Not much more than that and finished in 1 month and 2 weeks

[tranquil pelican]

The new battle pass levels require 25k points each

More than the entire regular battle pass

to be done in under 2 weeks

[shell mirage]

Mate, check again. You have some grinding to do.

[lone hazel]

Rewards for the extreme

[glad thorn]

I think they're just meaning the original 50 tiers, not the new 3

Also, these rewards are too hard to get for not that great a reward tbh

Honestly would've preferred some gold or any other consumables per 1000 points instead of a badge we already had but with a gold outline, the default profile icon with a gold outline, and a background we already had but with a gold background

(Sorry if it sounds like I'm being rude)

[lone hazel]

I think they're nice and it's good anyone who doesn't get them isn't missing out on too much

They're made to show off

[fathom hornet]

idk if theyre already working on it or not, but if they arent, can we get a replay system? maybe that just lets us look back at minimum, the last 10 matches we played? it would be so nice for content creators

possibly would let us be able to go frame by frame or in slow motion?

[eternal moon]

nerf black adam

ignore then fact that i've bodied all 8 ive fought today.

they will learn how to play him in a day or two

[fathom hornet]

can we also get more things in training mode? using BH for reference, letting the computer be able to DI certain ways, and letting the computer be able to do certain things during hitstun, letting the cpu dodge diagonal and down/up, etc

[worldly tangle]

Buff Shaggys sandwich so it applies weakened instead of just wasting rage and maybe getting a kill at really high damage

[void wigeon]

Yeah. It's too much grind for 2 weeks. I have the badge but that's it for me. 20k more in 2 weeks I don't think I'll get it

[void wigeon]

I was obviously referring to the BP before the 3 new levels that just got added today

[shell mirage]

I know tonny loves to play shaggy but can he pls make it less obvious? tnx

Shaggys answer to everything is air run every time. Your opponent is under you? Air run. Your opponent is coming at you? AIR RUN. Your opponent has armor? AIR RUN. Is your opponent somewhere under you? AIR RUNNN! Is your opponent near you mid air? AIR RUN! Are you doing a combo? WELL GOOD THING YOU HAVE AIR RUN! Are you ledge guarding? Did you know you had AIR RUNN?!

[lone hazel]

I think someone got air ran

[shell mirage]

Can someone tell me why does stripe have a aim bot on his saw. If you are in the hit box at the end of the saw you will be dragged on to the saw and then killed LMFAO. fix stripe

[shell mirage]

i won once tho but he keeps using it for EVERYTHING his rank 700 and still spams

[brave current]

I am once again asking why offline content like Arcade and bot matches requires an online connection

[broken helm]

lol lag worse with every patch idk how

[vale tiger]

Please consider shifting from the grindfest direction the game seems to be heading. So far, there's been 3 changes shifting the game from casual/fun to "job".

First was the character xp change, which many were willing to let go. I suppose you could say the playerbase gave an inch here, leading to the "miles" later. After that, the Halloween event turned out to be a grind, which wouldn't be so bad. However, when it's obviously set to grind for ONE outfit, well.....yeah no. Now, after and while that event is still going on, the new tiers have been added. Much like the event metioned prior, this would be FINE if it had been decided to leave well enough alone. Sadly, even the bonus tiers were turned into a "grindfest"/job.

Given that I am on the outside looking in, I won't claim to KNOW why these type of changes are being made. That said, I THINK the idea is to get more of the existing player's time, but the issue here is that whether or not that time being spent is fun seems to be a non/minor factor as if it's not being considered at all. Therefore, I'd imagine people are playing less BECAUSE of these changes.

Going forward, I think it would be better to shift the direction from "grindfest" to fun-fest(?); much like it was prior to these changes. Mind you, I'm not even saying anything has to be added, but rather the focus should be more on fleshing out what already exists while adding some quality of life here & there. Adding things is perfectly fine, but avoid the current one step forward two steps back approach, in which something neat is introduced while also making it a slog to obtain. No - I AM NOT saying make it fast/free. What I'm saying is that if something like the new BP tiers, for example, required no more than 3-4 times the standard tier's worth of points, nobody would complain.

Staying the current course is just going to lead to people finding ways to grind the game without actually playing it or dropping it altogether.

[shell mirage]

100% agree. especially with "whether or not that time being spent is fun seems to be a non/minor factor as if it's not being considered at all."

Today i spent 6 books that are pretty hard to obtain for them to only give me 5 levels (5 levels being ONLY because the first 3 levels require the same XP as before.) This means that from level 4-7 6 books MIGHT be enough but probably not.

[vital spindle]

Honestly I’m disappointed in a few choices that the Multiversus team decided on. Namely the most recent frustration is the change in a map that didn’t need a revamp (Haunted Mansion) but I definitely see where y’all are coming from, personally I stopped playing as much because of similar reasons.

[lone hazel]

Map wasn't changed, no roof version is separate

[vital spindle]

Gotcha I just am trying out the update right now, still don’t the new version then haha

[lone hazel]

I hate the Giant nerf, it did SO MUCH more than advertized and it's all actually game-breaking

[vital spindle]

Oh god now I have to read through all the patch notes as well

More buffs or nerfs?

[lone hazel]

Basically, Giant is now in free fall for 1 second after using down air

Free fall. In MultiVersus

[vital spindle]

Giant got a buff at alll

What the, he honestly shouldn’t even be allowed in ranked when it comes out

[lone hazel]

They gave him something minor once

[shell mirage]

I would like to thank "Player First" Games for releasing yet another character with a infinite! This really shows how well they listen to the community, for those that have doubts it will all go to shi*: DONT WORRY!

They assure us on their site that "We design experiences from the player’s perspective first. " So they will continue to see our perspective and continue not to give A SINGLE fuc* 🙂

[lone hazel]

Increased his base KBI way back and did some bug fixes. He's been almost exclusively nerfed every patch and got nothing in return

[shell mirage]

i know how you feel there is a mob on Superman

[vital spindle]

He’s a broken character they can’t fix no matter how much they try

[lone hazel]

Don't worry, they'll make it so that Adam gets stunned for 5 seconds if he misses a move he infinites with

[lone hazel]

Nah, you don't get it

[shell mirage]

Superman has been nerfed 4 patches straight i had to switch my play style 3 times and now i have to switch it up because of decay

[lone hazel]

I mean, poor things, those Superman players who can no longer spam lasers and do nothing, sit at ledge and do nothing or spam the same move deep into attack decay

If only Giant was like... completely missing moves in certain patches or something

[vital spindle]

Mar just wondering cause if you’re a giant main you have no room to speak

[lone hazel]

Wdym no room to speak if I'm a Giant main?

[twin river]

I like the idea of Arcade so far!
Was thinking what if you did an endless mode?
Maybe along with a badge to show how many levels you beat in endless or something?

[vital spindle]

Oh boo hoo Giant keeps getting nerfed but still is completely viable if not still broken. They can’t balance that character

[shell mirage]

You only talk about spamming its not about spamming grab couldnt kill finn on 70+

combos need laser now they cant be done

[lone hazel]

Giant gets nerfs that aren't deserved/make no sense/don't solve a problem. He's incredibly hard to play, considering he dies off one interaction

[shell mirage]

dodges? now its a perma dash

[shell mirage]

I stopped having a problem with him since last last patch

they do this because there is a mob.

[vital spindle]

If you die off of one interaction that sounds like you should switch my guy. Giant’s always be making it over 200 health

[shell mirage]

he doesnt

[lone hazel]

Good thing he takes 200 damage off 1 interaction

[vital spindle]

Hahaha

Literally has a stun block but okay

[eternal moon]

reporting a bug, stripe's gun CD is not being affected by cd reduction perks. this was not mentioned in the patch notes.

[lone hazel]

Look, I'm a 2250 MMR Giant in 1v1. I am exaggerating, but I have a point regardless

The only thing Giant has is cheese and that doesn't work against good players

[shell mirage]

We are talking about high elo here Giant vs a assassin or now black adam just makes him get hit constantly

I still think he shouldnt be in the game

[lone hazel]

Of course I don't lose matches the moment I get hit, but I have to be WAY more consistent than my opponent

[vital spindle]

Yes giant as he is right now is cheese and should get a complete revamp, maybe we can agree there?

[shell mirage]

then go to bug reporting not feedback

[eternal moon]

game feedback is a lot of things, but asking for a character to be removed is literally never going to happen

[eternal moon]

game feedback is a valid location, whats not valid in here is asking for a character to be removed

[vital spindle]

My guy stripe what’s with the hostility

[shell mirage]

mate its not valid you are reporting a bug outside the bug channel lmao

[lone hazel]

Ask mods, they'll say put it in bug-reporting

Anyway, Giant is unplayable now

[eternal moon]

ill apply it to both, better traffic

[lone hazel]

Superman actually got buffed this patch

[eternal moon]

and iron giant is here to stay

[vital spindle]

He could use a revamp tho

[lone hazel]

Giant needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, pretty much

[vital spindle]

In my humble opinion

[lone hazel]

His entire kit is dysfunctional

[eternal moon]

agreed on that

[shell mirage]

Nah man IG makes no sense as he is rn, in this game.

[lone hazel]

Optimal Giant play is using ONLY side air

[eternal moon]

rework is a lot more acceptable than removal

[lone hazel]

I wouldn't mind a temporary removal if they bring him back in a way that doesn't break the game

Currently, he breaks the game