game-feedback

[kind saffron]

buff harley quinn recovery pls

[vernal delta]

Anybody else get an auto decline from a match?

[signal socket]

So I know the point of the game is 2v2, but I just tried 1v1 for the first time in a while, to keep things fresh, and immediately got infinited 4 stocks in a row by a bugs as iron giant. Not exactly a great look.

[wheat pecan]

tip: play vs bots and dont bother with other people in this game with this broken matchmaking

[signal socket]

k

[shadow jolt]

Idk Superman’s shielding is kinda op

[jade jay]

if harlyes 0 to death gets removed they better get rid of arya's as wel

[brave current]

Ignore the nerf requests and focus more on buffing the weaker characters

When everyone is powerful, nobody is

[wheat pecan]

if everyone is as broken as iron giant the game will be stupid

[brave current]

A true utopia

[hallow prairie]

I'd like some more mastery rewards for levels after 15. They don't have to be much, but it'd be nice to have an incentive to play characters after they've reached level 15 outside of having all of their perks. Idk like maybe an extra hundred gold each extra level, or maybe more toasts, or more unique goodies.

[wheat pecan]

maybe make everyone as useless as taz instead, better suggestion

[woven briar]

We need a class system that allows double classes. (Like Pokemon's Types)
It'd helps a lot of the characters that don't feel right.
Lebron James: Bruiser / Mage.
Bugs Bunny: Mage / Bruiser.
Wonder Woman: Tank / Support.
Harley: Assassin / Mage.
Etc

[rancid veldt]

i made a concept for the roster sorting that i feel would benefit new players understanding where each characters are https://twitter.com/Treydemarked/status/1566909586736562176?s=20&t=ZxwY-4WrroCkLup_vfrdtA

[hallow prairie]

along with that I'd like the option to sort alphabetically

[rancid veldt]

this too ^^

[cinder sable]

Change it so Superman and iron giant actually require some semblance of skill to play. Both characters get way too much value for absolutely no skill needed

[keen trellis]

The game is rapidly declining due to lack of patching the game has been utterly broken since LeBron

If the game actually released weekly patch notes the game would still have around 50k-60k players at least on steam

Hopefully this patch notes upcoming fixes a lot of the problems the game faces aka HITBOXES AND LAG

[coarse dune]

Took a break after preseason, came back recently, WTF is going on with the servers? Has there been ANY official acknowledgement yet?

[strong parrot]

idk the game has been getting patched every two weeks, which is more often than most games

[stiff elk]

Nerf Arya stark overall

[iron spoke]

The " you had disconnected from the match" issue is very annoying to deal with, around every 4/8 matches, it's very annoying to deal with really since sometimes I can't finish a game when I get booted out of it suddenly

It's been a common issue with most of the community really since lag is "sometimes" rare but the servers do need a tweak or two to make it so you can't get disconnected from the middle of a match

The devs really need to focus on server stability more than the fighters right now

[idle crypt]

**OCE still has terrible lag. ** 🇦🇺 🌐
It's now gotten to the point where matches will freeze mid-game quite frequently and there will be a 5-second pause before the rollback.
I typically don't lag in games but with MV, I have never seen a green-bar connection.

Also, Iron-Giant Down-Air SPECIAL is glitched and can be exploited in teams. This glitch caused us (me & teammate) to go from 0-90 damage at the start of the game in the span of about 3 seconds.

On YouTube, there are videos of Iron Giant finishing a standard teams game with over 5000 damage using the same glitch/exploit.

[rapid moon]

Mortys rock move should have collission as well as a hitbox?
the hitbox can still wear off, but i think it should have collission, it would give morty a few more options in which i think he lacks! 🙂 no hate, i love morty hes so fun

WHOA, im an MVP?! what does that mean??!?!?!?!?!?

[proper oak]

Thats the role every member gets

[fleet sluice]

Morty has no french voice lines

[eternal moon]

I think Superman's Flying Grab should have some type of "whiff cooldown". Everytime the move misses after traveling a mid-to-far distance, it will get slower, preventing spam.

[void wigeon]

First pass of hitbox it will come this next patch

[dusty canyon]

i just want to say the rank system is not balanced if you lose 1 time 800k ranks up sometimes thats stupid,means you dont have really fun if you look your rank ,because i was top 800k now i lost 2 matches 2million + if you win you get 30k higher so yeah its not balanced

[flat jungle]

"The PFG team reads everything in this channel even if it may not be directly responded to"
meanwhile everyone complaining about the same issues for over a month*

[proper oak]

Increase the cooldown when batarang is picked up, batman gets it back way too quickly

Nerf superman entirely

[rare yoke]

yup

[copper wasp]

I think daily missions for Wonder Woman should be removed or daily missions for other characters (maybe for free rotation only) should be added, feels really out of place that WW is the only one that has character-exclusive missions

[void wigeon]

it's because she's the only free character(that you keep forever)

[copper wasp]

I'm aware of that, my point still stands

[dull tinsel]

Not really? Your point was to remove the challenges for WW but WHY would they? It makes it easier for 99% of people because they will always have WW making those challenges completable no matter what. It has no negative effects at all whatsoever. So no idea why they'd even bother changing it lol. It only benefits people. Your asking for a lot more coding/programming for something that is completely irrelevant and impacts nothing.

[copper wasp]

It's the only challenge in the game that cannot be completed with any other character which sucks for people who really don't like WW and that's why I think it should either be removed or be compensated with other character-specific challenges

"It makes it easier for people" easier than what exactly? None of the other current challenges are character-specific so it can't be easier for me to win 1 match with WW than to win 1 match with a character of my choice

[gentle zinc]

After hitbox patch releases in full I think we definitely need some server focus if possible. Its a constant issue that brings confusion and frustration. Excited to see the future of this game especially if characters are going to continue releasing every couple weeks. We'll be at Courage in no time 😁

[gentle zinc]

Top 3 things I can say are important.

#1. Servers which has already been beaten to death you guys knows.

#2. Battlepass grind Takes way too long. Please shorten this. I know you want us playing and grinding your game, but you're likely not the ONLY game most of us will be playing and you'll just end up with more players complaining they paid for the pass and didn't get what they wanted. Or instead of making the grind shorter copy what I think Halo did and let us grind any of the passes we bought whenever without the risk of losing items we paid to get.

#3. I've got nothing for this one currently.. Can't complain about hitboxes that's coming already, characters are coming quick, balance...idk Think superman definitely needs more endlag and a shorter dodge distance. Shaggy's kick needs less priority or weaker knockback when the attack is ending. Other than that I think the game is looking good long term though everyone will have their gripes with characters.

[buoyant cliff]

one big issue i have

ADD TECHING

it's genuinely infuriating to not be able to

[gentle zinc]

I'd like that too. As much as we all abuse it the game would be more skill rewarding if we could tech getting down spiked on stage to avoid dying. Vs just welp you got spiked on stage at 100 🤷‍♂️

[buoyant cliff]

exactly

it's infuriating to not have it. probably would take a lot of coding though so eh it's fine.... for now

[remote cloak]

Spectate mode or spectating matches PWEASE

[plush basalt]

why cant we stay with team after a 1-0😑😑

[void wigeon]

spectating in custom matches is coming soon according to some game files

[void wigeon]

wdym?

[nimble parrot]

Adding separated regions like NA-East, NA-West, etc

[plush basalt]

if you win 1-0 and the enemy declines rematch you can't auto-party with teammate

[void wigeon]

going to take a while. they'll stabilize the servers before adding more regions. I believe it counts for that too

[void wigeon]

oh. only when rematching right?

[plush basalt]

no only when someone declines rematch

[void wigeon]

it autoparty only when someone declines rematch?

[plush basalt]

lmao

[gritty field]

Suggestion: Deal X damage to players changed to X damage to enemies so people know you can do it in bots

[west island]

nerf superman

her too op with his grab and his invisability

[thorn parrot]

1. When partied on the character select screen, show some sort of indication for when your partner has made their selection
2. When paired with a player who is completely inactive or self destructs multiple times within a certain interval, mitigate MMR loss as a result of losing

[west ridge]

really big patch is coming tomorrow so balancing should be better than (hopefully)

there's honestly like 6-7 characters that need to be changed for a healthier meta

[next hill]

It's time to suit up for action because #GUNDAMEVOLUTION launches on PC Sept 21, 2022! oh yeah my second favorite game after MVS lets go !!

[west ridge]

batman, jake, superman, bugs, tom, velma are all super overcentralizing the meta so you see one of them on like every team comp

[stiff nest]

they said they were fixing Batman's Batarang to be destroyed when colliding with other projectiles, Superman's grab, and Bugs Bunny's up-air again. the meta is slowly changing but all it will take is one brain-dead buff mistake to ruin it

[void wigeon]

it's Thursday

[keen trellis]

Exactly the characters that need nerfs and I mean huge nerfs

[maiden spindle]

If Superman's grab whiffs, it has a really long recovery already. I think if they are spamming it, it is easy to punish, but if they are not spamming it and using it smartly (rare occurrence) it is still punishable but definitely less easy to punish than if they are spamming.

While the move is not too easy to punish normally, there are comparatively harder to punish moves across the rest of the cast and even in Superman's moveset.

[full dirge]

Anyone know how many wins it takes to get to 4 stars on the wins badge? For context im at 1500 still at 3

[sharp shore]

game is boring at higher ranks theres sucha tier rift you're only gonna see 4 characters.

[finite warren]

these hitboxes need to be absolutely changed its ridiculous

[void wigeon]

next patch will come the first pass of hitbox/hurtbox fix

[dull iron]

i think that if you complete all tutorials, (basic + advanced) you should get a free character unlock of your choice

instead of wonder woman for free

or get wonder woman and another character

[void wigeon]

would be cool to choose

[clever phoenix]

Multiversus need friendly fire on ranked

Too many teams just jumping one person and fighting through their teammate💀

[polar solstice]

I’m on Xbox I cannot physically get into a game idk if it’s me or others I’ve switched my wifi done everything possible I cannot get past the loading screen after character select anyone know what’s up?

[void wigeon]

wrong chat. leave it on #game-support only

[jolly carbon]

Can barley see what’s on my screen in the lobby pls add a safe zone setting

[nocturne grove]

The Tazmanian Trigonometry perk icon is misleading. I've seen a lot of people mistakenly believe the perk is referring to how FAR you knock someone back which is not the case.

The icon for it suggests as such as well and so I believe the perk should be worded/displayed differently.

[void wigeon]

it's not misleading. it says "Your team receives a 15% increased base knockback influence" and it's a Utility perk not an Offense perk

[flat zodiac]

this post was fact checked by REAL patriots

[nocturne grove]

I guess it's better to say that the term 'knockback influence' is easily interpreted as "knockback distance" for someone who has not read the actual glossary on it.

[void wigeon]

for someone who hasn't read it or done the tutorial, but still isn't misleading

[nocturne grove]

The icon definitely is in my opinion. It looks like someone getting thrown back.

[void wigeon]

because you get thrown back but the arrows are pointed in the opposite direction which is the purpose of Knockback Influence(get you back in the ring)

[nocturne grove]

Knockback influence is nothing to do with the distance of knockback..

Only the angle.

[void wigeon]

I didn't say that

[nocturne grove]

Either way, just stating my feedback. 😁

[void wigeon]

fair

[rare yoke]

game stop mming me with ppl who 3/4 death all game.

[obtuse nebula]

Since the slot each perk is in doesn't actually matter, it doesn't make sense that when you assign perks to empty slots, it fills in 2 or 3 first. Please make it so that selecting perks while there are empty slots fills the empty slots, rather than whatever position you're on (and then flipping you to the ability slot if you're on perk 3)

[rapid compass]

So glad i never spent money on this game, if someone told me all id get is red bar matchs no more than a month out I never wouldve wasted time playing to begin with 👍

[glacial stratus]

Guys did they add Asian servers yet

[rare yoke]

gain 1 elo when I win constantly each, lose 40 if I barely lose come on..

[eternal moon]

elo doesent mattere

[subtle edge]

nerf finn

his down light spikes too hard and makes it super hard to play against him near the edge

also, his moves allowing him to move while having moves fully charged up makes coming near him super hard as he can just release

[terse hemlock]

have you thought of Clone/Echo characters? I think it would be a great way to shorten some development time and make group characters work. The Powerpuff girls would be a great example for that. Giving them slight move differences so they are unique but let them share a lot of other things.

[cedar glade]

Would be pretty cool if we had away to gain gems (adding gems in the BP or something)

[analog notch]

Need some more maps Goddamit

[wheat pecan]

i see iron giant in every game

(2v2 that is)

[stable lily]

Very true. All of these characters need tuning, but velma does not, other support characters just need to be buffed because they suck

[stable lily]

Iron giant is straight up broken, as a character and in the sense that he needs to be nerfed hard

Coin system needs tuning.

[wheat pecan]

https://i.gyazo.com/59479e1dd2dec57e30f01014d1142367.png
my tier list

[stable lily]

Move harley to S, Lebron to A, and Steven down to B, and you are golden.

[eternal moon]

I don't think it's normal that I use jake at level 1 and I have to fight against velma level 14, fix thiss please 💀

[stable lily]

Harley has a zero to death loop, lebron really just takes skill, and steven is steven.

[stable lily]

Pretty sure it is because you two have the same mmr. Basically, stop being good at the game.

[wheat pecan]

lol

mmr doesnt even work in this game

ive fought people with +400 mmr more than me

[rare yoke]

i lost so much mmr even when vsing higher mmr ppl, mmr is broken.

[stable lily]

Maybe no one else was queuing?

[wheat pecan]

I am not sure if you are sarcastic or not

I will assume you are, so yeah, dead game

[stable lily]

Naw I'm joking. Clearly the mm system is busted.

[eternal moon]

OH LMAO😭

[sly lark]

When is going to be able to play ranked mode? Im tired of waiting and the game is becoming boring

[scenic kestrel]

I would like it if you were allowed to purchase battle pass levels for a few days before the season ended, some of us missed a few days for life reasons and couldn’t get to max level

[void wigeon]

I believe purchasing BP levels if were to come only at the start of a new Season

[scenic kestrel]

That’s ridiculous, how would we know beforehand how many days we may miss?

[void wigeon]

you didn't understand what I meant. I mean that if they were to add this feature would be at the start of a new Season and stay forever not that would be available only in the start of the Season

[edgy pulsar]

Can we get more maps PLEASE AND TURN DOWN THE MUSIC IN THE RICK N MORTY MAP or make it the real music from the “let’s get swifftty” like them singing it.

[cyan patrol]

I must be amazing at this game because the matchmaker always pairs me with people who do less than 100 damage, no kills, and lose 3 out of 4 of our stocks

[opal talon]

Well you are fighting on top of a stereo

[edgy pulsar]

even when it’s gone is loud af for no reason even with music volume down

[marsh kiln]

Nerf Velma, buff shaggy’s side special, buff iron giant entirely, make fins backpack be invincible. Best idea

[tropic sphinx]

I didn’t see a suggestion area but I have one we shall our teammates to suggest in hero or chapter that they want us to use?

[void wigeon]

This chat is for suggestions

[tiny sun]

The game is good but opening the game is too slow

[buoyant cliff]

If you put Daffy in the game, give him a “Sell all my Warner Brothers stocks” line and have a comeback line be “Not those stocks”

Please it’ll be hilarious

[eternal moon]

same player 2 times in a row
batman player 3 times in a row
not being able to counter batman ever
great game

[plush basalt]

i'm level 30 Jake the enemies were level 26 Harley and level 28 Tom and Jerry

who wants to guess what my team mate was?

level 6 Shaggy

and next game i just got a level 11 Superman vs both 25+

[buoyant cliff]

Yeah that also would be nice to change, teammates of your same level

[knotty cliff]

Fix your garbage ass servers

[pastel vine]

Question:
Will tomorrows patch have buffs and nerfs on all characters?

[minor breach]

Quick question: is anyone else having issues with connecting? I find the connection a lot less stable then it used to be and am getting ejected from matches constantly

[buoyant cliff]

no im connecting fine idk

[modest shoal]

The game does a lot of things right tbh, I really like how you can farm exp/gold/bp through bots. Makes it a lot more casual

[knotty cliff]

The games servers are just ass

[echo steppe]

Im still chocked over how batman can cancel anything into anything pretty much.
With Batman being able do that, aswell as having batterang, arguably the best tool in neutral for 1v1, is whats keeping him as the best pick for 1v1 aswell is going to keep him as the best pick.
Currently, you just need to mash your attacks and youll win over your opponent, its unskillfull to play as, unfun to play against and i dont think there is anyone that wants batman to stay as strong and oppressive as he currently is.
You NEED to fix this, in the match i just had which sparked this rant, a batman quite literally missed his air down special, i went to punish it with an attack, i can see my attack animation start while hes still doing is air down special, and he just mashes air up special and beats my move, even though i can see the animation for my attack before his is finished and i can even see it go through him when hes doing his up special.
This is not ok, batmans are rewarded for DOING MISTAKES, there is almost zero risk invovled when playing batman in a 1v1 scenario.
I know your focus is on 1v1 but this carries over to 2v2 aswell as the batman can just mash attack when somoene is trying to punish him when attack ones teammate.
No it was not lag or a server issue

[indigo flint]

Its seriously coming to the point where I hate seeing a harley quinn.
She can do anything she wants and I cant do anything
I attack from a range she can close in way too fast
I attack up close and thats just out of the question. I shouldnt have to stray away from my main just to choose batman or superman to beat harley

[dire grail]

Nerf arya

Remove arya

[modest shoal]

who do you main lol

[dire grail]

Nerf Wonder woman

Nerf Harley

[indigo flint]

Bro fr just get better. Dont bring up the dair loop either it has a really tight window and will prob get removed when the hitbox patch comes out tomr.
Arya's attacks have no priority and are weak some of the time. She is very combo heavy to build up damage and is hard to use. The amount of effort that arya has to put in to lay down 60 damage against someone like superman or bugs is a huge margin
Hope you understand 🙏

[terse sequoia]

I feel like the disconnecting after having bad wifi is annoying because i get nothing and problem my appear again and again

[proud zenith]

are they gonna fix mmr at all

like wtf is this

[dire grail]

Nerd af

[proud zenith]

facts 😭

[indigo flint]

people are scared of the facts

[dire grail]

Stfu

[indigo flint]

I refuse

Anyways if yall gonna do arya this dirty at least make her dagger be able to get picked up after it was thrown.

[proud zenith]

shes already top 5 in 1v1s she doesnt need to be better

[wintry onyx]

So I got the announcer taz pack but how come he don’t have a voice line when it comes to rematch? The default voice like is still there

[cursive rain]

me once again begging for a report unskilled playter option

or maybe just stop matching me with disabled toddlers

[proud zenith]

facts bro 😭

[opal talon]

Just carry harder, that simple

[modest shoal]

I'd really like to see an achievement for getting X amount of characters to level 15. Rewards playing different characters

[stiff nest]

you know what would be crazy? It would be so inconvenient if instead of putting solo-queue players against premade teams, you added a separate game mode for anyone that wants to play with random people, against random people. no shot! that would be so awful, right? maybe then I would actually play 2v2s. guess not though, ya'll just want sweaty tryhards that do nothing but use meta characters

[paper kestrel]

Can we fix the server … there is no reason why I should play with 2 or 1 bar sometimes when I have chosen a region …

[signal socket]

I propose a trade:

You receive: Iron Giant's hug to upB doesn't combo anymore
I receive: the inifinites that Bugs, Harley, etc... Have on Iron Giant don't work anymore (not sure how that would look)

Do we have a deal? 🤝

[cursive rain]

how to spot bad players

[paper kestrel]

How long till we get frame data ??

[opal talon]

That's fine with me as long as you keep carrying me.

[cursive rain]

I mean I might

and then I'll come back in here again to complain and ask for a report unskilled player option again

[uneven rain]

make jakes long arm attacks delay do less range

[dire grail]

Fax

[gentle zinc]

Jojo Reference

[indigo flint]

REAL

[lone zinc]

I would put that in the #bug-reporting

[tawdry bluff]

Matchmaking is hot trash

[cinder sable]

The tentative patch notes are looking pretty bad already……….

[plain frigate]

ive never seen a dev team be so bad at nerfing and buffing characters its actually crazy

[cinder sable]

If the devs are expecting to get praised for these changes they must be smoking some hella hopium

[lone apex]

NEW TAZ SIGNATURE PERK: DOWN SPECIAL APPLE CORES ARE NOW SPARE TIRES THAT BOUNCE

[plain frigate]

they nerf only the wrong things on almost every character and buff only the wrong things on every character

[cinder sable]

^^^

[high cradle]

need the hitbox update asap i wanna play i refuse to play rn tho

too painful

need better hitbox

[eternal moon]

They need to nerf superman's grab and armor spam. Such bs

[indigo flint]

im pretty sure if you time it right you can break his armor with attacks like arya nair
But grab is just cheese af

[swift surge]

3 free characters you can unlock similar to how wonder woman was unlocked to have more battle pass missions instead of the same ones every day.

[jade jay]

i hope we get a less brain dead respawn in the upcoming patch as well

[vast quest]

What do you mean brain dead respawen?

[jade jay]

You respawn in a set spot, at a set time, with basically no invulnerability. You can basically get combo’d the second you respawn

[vast quest]

Ya true

[maiden spindle]

balance the characters in the game

[white edge]

Make LeBron James' no ball attacks have more range and hit faster. When you have no ball as LeBron it's over.

[wheat saffron]

i play like 2 hours maybe a day and i get enough time you just got a skill issue

and i dont even go for quest

[tawny geode]

Batmans ground down attack still needs to be fixed so it actually connects

[lavish ore]

They should try out an alternate delay-based server just to see how it is.

Is it me or has pbun been typing something for like an hour

[uneven charm]

OK, I don't know who thought it was a good idea to make "ring out a opponent with less than 60 points in damage" a challenge, o even a seasonal milestone, but that REALLY needs to have that patched out.

[sage mural]

No arguments here. Don't know what the devs are thinking leaving the best characters untouched hoping hitbox changes are all they need while nerfing middle of the pack characters that are weak in comparison

[lavish ore]

you were typing that long just to say that?

odd

[plush basalt]

BUFF WONDER WOMAN

[vast quest]

Your joking right

[wheat saffron]

well not actually 2 hours a day but like im on my pc for like 2 hours a day but still

i know people who played this game for over 600 hours now

[dull tinsel]

Daily challenges take a literal 10-20 minutes to do? I don't understand the complaint lol. Fire up 2v2 bots and you have them all done immediately pretty much then you can just go play normally after that. You also don't need to do them every day. They'll have events before season ends giving out bonus xp or ways to farm extra.

Battlepasses/dailies aren't meant for casuals to finish anyway. It's meant for people who login basically daily. Not required but for those people it's very easy to finish. The whole purpose of the system is to drive metrics and have those averages up. Not for casuals to earn easy rewards lol.

[plush basalt]

rename the game to Multinerfus

[stable lily]

Actually, under further thought, I have surmised that it is the best this way. The reason why there is loose skilled based matchmaking is to reduce loading times. I have seen in many other games, most recently destiny 2, that the addition of harder skilled based matchmaking heavily impairs loading times. I would say it could use some tuning, but there are ALOT of more present issues, such as the gold system and unbalanced characters.

[dry olive]

I think ranked should be added asap, me and my friends are just chill players and want to have fun and aren't that good at the game. We just want to have fun. and if we match up against some tryhards using combos wich we cant even dodge its not fun.

[stable lily]

Absolutely true. In brawlhalla, it is literally put against that, as you can complete every single weekly challenge but still fall short of tier 85 because you haven't completed enough daily's.

[stable lily]

Skilled based matchmaking is already in the game, ranked would only put in stronger sbmm, so just get better. I hate using that phrase but it really is a get better issue, you are going to fight people above and below your skill level, and not everyone is going to be fun to fight against, or easy to win against.

[gentle zinc]

@vast quest Stop spamming buttons when you respawn and you won't get combo'd. They addressed this long ago and you didn't read it

yes

[eternal moon]

I never played but with the vieeos i watched it looks cool to play

And a suggestion : add Daffy the wizard

[void wigeon]

character suggestion is in #character-wishlist and the game is pretty cool. it's in Beta so it has it's problems but it's worth it

[eternal moon]

Ok

[plush basalt]

cant get over how dog sht those patch notes are just nerf everyone

[low wren]

game takes forever to load in and then connect... 5 minutes to just get in. wtf?
It used to be faster before

[indigo flint]

it only happens for me when I use velma
Literally any other character I choose loads in instantly but when I choose velma it decides to take an extra 3 minutes to load and by that time im nearly dead

[kindred basin]

IG has way too many things that keep him safe for him to be doing that much damage. either nerf his bolts or nerf his damage output. cause dealing with all that on top of him being the heaviest character (constantly living to 150-170) is just not fun. especially when majority of them jus spam.

[wheat pecan]

do we have patch notes already? @void wigeon

[echo frost]

Yeah the notes were posted

[void wigeon]

it's not in the Patch Notes website. they took it out maybe to change or add something

[wheat pecan]

link?

[echo frost]

https://multiversus.bugs.wbgames.com/patch-notes patch notes 1.02, refresh the site once its posted

[cursive rain]

I notice the patch notes haven't added a report unskilled player option

something the game is very badly in need of since the matchmaking appears to be entirely nonfunctional

[void wigeon]

The Patch Notes are out now

[plain frigate]

the only good change in all the patch notes was the hitboxes the others were just removing yalls dumb mistakes

[wheat pecan]

https://i.gyazo.com/8bef94be2d3910e1d68b6d4a01e8d032.png

you love to see it

probably still not enough

[burnt glade]

update is 4PM UTC?

[void wigeon]

9am PST/12pm EST/4pm UTC is the update with a downtime of 1 hour until 10am PST/1pm EST/5pm UTC

[burnt glade]

🙂

[wheat pecan]

funny how batman got away without any nerfs

Finn LeBron and Morty are going to be the new S tiers

[burnt glade]

Hello, do you know if spectator mode will be enabled in this patch?
As I see yes.

[void wigeon]

it will according to the Patch Notes

[burnt glade]

thx 🙂 super contento

[dull tinsel]

Why are the patch notes NOT posted here? Or posted in the twitter? Or anywhere except their site? No one goes to the WB site to look for patch notes lmao...This game doesn't learn jesus...

[burnt glade]

😮 yea

[void wigeon]

it's in the website already. you're the only one that doesn't go in the website

[burnt glade]

🙂

XDDD

[rare yoke]

losing full elo when i get a 10 mill teammate is very fair and balanced

[dull tinsel]

Still no new content this patch either...? Bro I'm dying really. New characters don't bring in more players (look at morty, we LOST players during his release) They need to fire all the character designers/devs and spend money hiring people who make content instead. Focus on character releases later when the game has something to keep people busy with. This is getting insane man...And not even a roadmap/update on when ranked will be coming or any other mode period.

[void wigeon]

they don't know the exact date of Ranked Mode or Arcade Mode, why would they release a date when even they don't know

[wheat pecan]

what are you even talking about

new characters = content in a brawler game like this

[cursive rain]

add a report unskilled player option

actually so pathetic this is what I see at what's supposed to be decently high levels of play

[inland agate]

Reminder that trash talking random teammates isn't considered feedback

[cursive rain]

I’m not blaming the players it’s not their fault they match into the game

[earnest cave]

https://imgur.com/a/kaTvODr

why is this a thing

[wheat pecan]

you are though

you literally want a button to report them

blame the matchmaking, not the player who randomly joined in your team because of the matchmaking not doing its purpose

[cursive rain]

Yes the button to report them, and make matchmaking better, what don’t you get

[earnest cave]

There are times where the matchmaking will put you with the drooliest of teammates, yes, but we don't have ranked yet. This seems kind of a moot point.

[wheat pecan]

bro i dont think you get it

your argument makes no sense

that will not improve matchmaking because matchmaking does not look at your teammate's skill level in the first place

[void wigeon]

just leave him with this dream that's never going to happen. don't reply

[wheat pecan]

i want him to understand why it won't happen though

[earnest cave]

why would it not

also we're mucking up the feedback chat with this sort of chatter

[wheat pecan]

it currently does not

a new player can face the best player in the game on their first match

or you as a veteran player can get a teammate in 2v2 that is a brand new player vs very high MMR people

that is why i am avoiding playing right with other people in 2v2 now until ranked or a fix is done to prevent this from happening, because it happens way too often to me

[inland agate]

Because "skill" is not something you can't track with a software, you can look at stats, but matchmaking can't know what the other player behind the screen is doing

[earnest cave]

MMR gets pretty close.

But it can't account for someone being six drinks in, running on zero sleep, etc.

[wheat pecan]

it doesn't match you with MMR either

I am not sure why

I've played against people with 500+ mmr difference on the teams

[earnest cave]

what's your mmr?

[wheat pecan]

1230

[earnest cave]

so you get people with like 1730 mmr?

or 730 mmr

[wheat pecan]

yep

its usually people with 800 mmr on my team vs 1500+ on the enemy

sometimes its reversed

i play vs total noobs with lower mmr and i stomp them

which i dont find fun either

[regal ocean]

Would be cool to see native multi keyboard support. What I mean by that is the ability to use multiple keyboards on the same client with no software to map controls. Big issue from evo last month.

[eternal moon]

Add a way to see projectile ring out count

[edgy pulsar]

Add more maps please

[sage bluff]

Tom and Jerry feel bad to use now :/

[eternal moon]

It's wild so many people are coming back for a new character but zero other changes (okay, hitboxes are big, but still no new modes or stages). I think in 30 minutes to an hour, people are going to be bored again.

[delicate rapids]

I think Morty's second jab sends him a bit too far forward

[north mica]

Anyone elso on Xbox having lag on menu?

[mental surge]

hitboxes def felt better but certain characters feel very clunky

[wheat saffron]

ARYA START IS STILL OP????

like bro am i really gonna lose the rank i just worked for last night cause nothing was deadass changed

morty still feels exactly the same to play against

same with arya

[violet wolf]

Is anyone else dealing with lag?

[violet wolf]

Yes

[wheat saffron]

yea crazy its even effecting my fps and i got a 2070 rtx

[limpid vortex]

honestly the lack of a decent battle pass (one with gleamium) is what killed the game at least in season 1. Battle passes are good progression systems to keep people playing, and nobody's going to buy a battle pass that doesn't have premium currency in it in 2022

Also please stop adding characters that are appealing/relevant to only NA like Lebron and Gizmo

[wheat saffron]

its a na game?

just like how cod added like snoop dog like its a NA game

OKAY BUT NAH DID SUPERMAN GET BUFFED?????????????

like bro SUPERMAN IS SO OP STILL

i just got thrown across the map at 39 health

and infinity comboed like does he out of all people need a infinity combo

[scenic warren]

The new camera shaking thing is very annoying and there is no option to disable it

Also you can't hold a button to skip the stats screen after a fight anymore

[bright reef]

Can we get a setting to enable seeing hit/hurtboxes in the lab please?

[ivory oar]

I think that's a good idea.

[ivory oar]

I second this as well.

[frail prairie]

I've played 9 and won all 9 with Gizmo, why is my mmr still in the 800s???

[ivory oar]

One thing I would like is for the settings we use for the Lab to be saved every time we revisit it. So like the bot's behavior, the hitstun combo display, etc.

[forest socket]

Please make Garnets aerial up b more consistent when connecting, ive had quite a few scenarios where the first hit would hit someone and they would get hit so slightly out of the second

[sage mural]

Now that you guys changed the hitboxs you guys can actually focus on damage values and the stupid moves bugs and tj have that kill at dummy low percents like the down and up air. Ffs no changes to those at all? You guys really think it was just the hitboxs that were a problem? L devs

[eternal moon]

nerf finn and batman
add new people like tf

[spark bear]

Tom and Jerry can no longer change direction during his Mallet Time attack (neutral ground attack).
He's been able to do so since day 1 of Closed Alpha.
Now he does it randomly every once in a while, but it almost NEVER happens and it feels thus like an unintended change / bug.
It's worth mentioning that it wasn't in the patch notes either, further implying it is an unintended bug. This is making us #975468167277203546 mains drop the character as it's feeling unplayable with this Mallet problem going on right now.
In case it is not a bug, however, it is VERY worth noting for the devs that the general feeling about the character is abyssmal right now, as can be seen in the #975468167277203546.
Please revert it back to how it's always been. I believe I speak on behalf of the majority of T&J mains when I say that the character is not even remotely fun right now. And many of us will either drop the character or drop the game for that reason.

[willow meteor]

hi! just want to say to the Devs: thank you for removing Velma’s Passive from a cop car to the Mystery Machine van! it’s way more fun and ton less problematic; that move never fit her character and now it gives us more Scooby moments to enjoy.

tip my hat to WB Games for swiftly changing this! ❤️

[teal star]

FPS issue using 99% of gpu. Pretty sure many others have reported this issue already.

[calm mural]

thanks so much for making it so auto parties can form regardless if a full set was played or not, very very welcome change

[whole drum]

i do think the mmr system is one of the worst ive ever seen. the game doesnt even try to pair you with people aorund your skill level

[paper kestrel]

Please fix the server why the heck I start the match at 3 bar and finish at 2

[paper kestrel]

It is …

[slim bough]

I havent touched this game in so long bc i've been waiting for ranked. Update after update after update after update....nope. This is it. I had fun but player first......yall r a different breed

[paper kestrel]

Might stop and wait for 3 bar server …

It is so laggy

[idle loom]

If you’re having issues with Arya after this patch then it’s a skill issue, no offense, but she got butchered this patch lol

[forest socket]

what mmr are you? im in the 1k range and im getting matched perfectly literally neck and neck games back and back

also please drop a garnet buff just by making her hits connect better with aerial up special aus or uair

[lunar imp]

Thanks for the garnet buff's
Sair into Sair still doesn't conect most of the time, i am at a point where i believe that the dev's don't even test there game.

[cyan patrol]

Yeah some of the changes really make you wonder how they didn't know a change didn't fix what they wanted fixed or broke something that wasn't broke before. They should give a portion of players access to an 'experimental version' of the game that has future patch updates so it gets properly tested before going live on the main beta version

[lunar imp]

Just as a referenz List
Garnet:
-Side Light Into any other followup, is often dodgeable.
-Side air into any followup move doesn't work.
-Up Special Groundet without the cooldown up (the clap): does only slightly poke the enemy if it hits on the side and does not throw them up
-Up special Air: if the first instance hit the second can be compleatly ignored
-Signiture Perk Electric Groove: teammates sometimes don't get groove stacks
-Neutral Light: just a dead move, only used to make Side Light "Save"

I think this is all of the current garnet jank :)

[spiral oracle]

still no hitbox viewer ugh

[lunar imp]

Like they said "WE GONNA BUFF GARNET" yea 1 quality of life thing, 1 fix that doesn't work and 1 thing that isn't clear if its now Down special or side special ?!
thanks, up there is a bucket list to clean up :c
sorry for the toxicity but it pisses me off

[spiral oracle]

they literally have one in the source code but don't put it in the update that would overhaul it

[burnt forge]

Contemplating quitting until they let you choose NA region, I don't want to play west, ever

[lunar imp]

i am thinking of just quiting it entierly since it feels like the game is worked on my internes, every patch gets delayed after the first announce ment, we are almost waiting for 2 month's for ranked and rick, up until the current patch we basicly played all beans and can i mention that the bean fighting game was on evo ?

[stiff garden]

whats the Point of increasing endlag when you can just dodge cancel out of anything

[idle loom]

Would be great to add a gifting feature to gifts friends

[crimson jay]

Bugs is still busted, makes game annoying to play when there are two Bugs

[wheat pecan]

T&J feels quite worse after the update ngl

[cunning panther]

I didn't see anything about it in the patch notes, but the color the blue in Jake's Starchild skin got changed and honestly, it looks Really bad now

[grand raven]

Would we be able to get the old Trophy Falls banner back? I bought the old one because I liked how the old one looked. I'm not a fan of the new design for it. At the very least give us both as options.

[fierce urchin]

why was the patch notes for Garnet changed from last nights version? it said that side special (which is gauntlets) got increased projectile speed last night, but now it says down special got increased projectile speed (which is her star command grab, its not a projectile?????). so which is correct?

[eternal moon]

Add a system to save matchs

Some similar to Clash Royale

[wheat pecan]

it was a typo I guess so the latest patch notes should be correct

[brave mortar]

You guys ruined bugs, he has so much end lag i cant do moves without being punished its do awful

[fierce urchin]

but it currently says down special, a non projectile move, got a projectile buff. So is it just a "change" that did nothing?

[eternal moon]

@brave mortarsame he will be off the leaderboards soon without a doubt
his side kcik sometimes doust hit even when its touching their face
anyone can beat bugs now, he went from a really good character to literally one ofthe worst

[steep juniper]

god i love losing to shaggy and superman spammers

thats why i love this game, it has so much of that

[wheat pecan]

idk couldn't tell you, never played garnet

probably typo again

[brave mortar]

OH MY ACTUAL GOD thank you for understanding

Bugs was literally my best character and now i cant do anything without getting combo’d 😭

[fierce urchin]

but the previous version of today's patch notes didn't have it. and from my testing side special and down special are both unchanged.

so why would a newer version of patch notes ADD a typo

[eternal moon]

@brave mortarsame only other one i can use is harley and all i can do with her is spam up air, combo with her is impossible now
plus bugs was just fun before the update

[wheat pecan]

its good time to learn new characters then

[eternal moon]

even tho i dont want to only fun ones are bugs and harley imo

[wheat pecan]

well that is simply wrong

[brave mortar]

Luckily i have morty still he didnt get nerfed too bad

[pine star]

I find it really hard to play when there is the dying feature. Please remove

[wheat pecan]

all characters are fun if you take your time to learn how to play them

[wheat pecan]

what do you even mean bruh, he got the most buffs out of everyone

[steep juniper]

ah nah garnet is even better

[frank radish]

When are the servers going to get an update so the games actually playable?

[void wigeon]

the game is in Beta. it has stability issues. it'll get better overtime

[frank radish]

Should be a priority

[brave mortar]

Actually that would be finn, morty got 4 buffs and others were either nerfs or fixes

Finn has 5 buffs

[fierce urchin]

yeah in a patch that Tony pretty much advertised as Garnet and Taz help, finn (an already high tier character) got the most buffs

[wheat pecan]

morty got 5 buffs as well

[steep juniper]

why am i still winning and losing mmr?

[cold cargo]

Harley can combo you to death off of a jab, wym comboing with her is impossible

[eternal moon]

@cold cargofor me im just not used to using her combos dont like her that much regardless

[brave mortar]

Imo they need to nerf harley

[cold cargo]

She should have combos, but those combos shouldn’t just be off jab. They don’t need to nerf her, just rework her. Give her new combos but not off the jab

[lone zinc]

you obviously never grew up with classic Scooby, still I guess...

[steep juniper]

bro its still happening i dont understand

[brave mortar]

“Bugs Bunny is still a bit too safe and unpunishable “

My main issue is that their focusing on the opponent more than the player

[limber lantern]

NA servers are so bad, I only get 1 or 2 bar games never get 3 bars

[willow meteor]

i did. just grew up and realized that cops do more harm then good.

[strange ravine]

supermans now trash the fact they nerfed his laser and gave him a cooldown says it now he cant zone

[quick spoke]

Anyone else notice that the right stick down attack picks the side you're the most in? It used to just do down attack and follow the side you're originally going

I'm kinda torn by this change

[icy spruce]

I don’t know where to put this but my multiversus hasn’t let me play one full match since before august

[cinder sable]

Fr why did they make Finn even more unga bunga. Finn players spam backpack EVEN MORE now smh.

[frank dagger]

as a shaggy main, nerf side kick.

[crimson quarry]

I've been noticing hella glitches after this new patch

[cinder sable]

And why TF would the straight up nerf T&J into the ground?! A character that actually takes skill and arguably has one of the hardest move sets to get value from. SMH pfg messed up with this “balancing patch”

[wheat pecan]

some changes are very weird

like batman got buffed, i expected a nerf

[cinder sable]

The devs made the game even more imbalanced. If only they actually played their own game……

[strange ravine]

this game was actually funner during the first week when everyone was broken at least it took more skill , now its whoever is playing the more broken character wins takes no skill just use the meta character against a character thats around same skill level or better than you and the one with the more broken character will almost alwasy win

[fallen hedge]

I would like to file a complaint on my friend Rico’s behalf he would very much enjoy the nerfing of the character “gizmos” bow shot because it has been deemed “over powered” I know you have no way of doing that so I would like you to send this message up the chain of commands I hope you take this seriously and have a nice day

[cloud drift]

bring velmas cops back as a setting in options, thanks, in the cartoon they call the cops when they solve a mystery

mystery inc are so dumb they get caught in a trap in every ep, they could never catch the bad guy lmao

[naive dome]

While I was playing I had 1079 gold (roughly) and after winning my first match of the day it went down to about 970 then back up to 1079

[limpid vortex]

Snoop Dog and WB are huge all over the world though...

[fallen hedge]

Make garnets down spike better please any buff will be amazing

[thick crown]

please PLEASE return the old trophy falls, the new is ugly

[slow quarry]

Hey, to the devs, may I suggest an - admittedly massive - change to Iron Giant that may make balancing him a whole lot easier. Give him armor on some of his moves, and change how his bolts passive/neutral special works, with each Bolt giving him and possibly his ally Thorns stacks based on how many bolts he has when he uses Neutral Special. He's the only character who gets/gives Thorns right now, so why not play on that?

[thick crown]

or at least let me make a refund since this is not what i bought :/

[left nacelle]

Unnerf Tom & Jerry, he went down like 2 tiers with this nerf

[fierce urchin]

Double S to A tier ain’t bad

[cinder sable]

make it so Superman requires some sort of actual skill to play

[lone zinc]

lets not get political shall we, because we are going to just bicker back and forth over things that don't belong here and fill up this channel...

[willow meteor]

sure! i agree--just responding to your comment

[crimson quarry]

Servers are hella bad now. Like im getting the full effect of it. Haven't been before the patch

Like 300 hours in and i cant play

[fossil widget]

Alright I was wondering if that was just me

[cold cargo]

This channel is just a complaining channel sometimes

[jade jay]

so im guessing based off how the game feels that the hitbox update got pushed back again?

[void wigeon]

first pass of hitbox/hurtbox is out. it's not everything yet as they said, but it's the start

[jade jay]

who did they fix? cuz so far im feeling no difference except the servers somehow being worse right now

[void wigeon]

every character hitbox changed

[jade jay]

it feels exactly the same. i still get hit by moves nowhere near me and harleys attacks still just phase right through everyone. could be the servers skewing results but at least for now i dont feel the slightest different

[sage bluff]

Fix Tom and Jerry

[jade jay]

now did they actually make t&j worse? or just not let brain dead players spam the same 2 moves to win anymore

[sage bluff]

Worse. Mans got no combo game now

[jade jay]

cuz i feel like whenever someone says their main got nerfed too hard, its the latter

[jade jay]

try other moves, no more spamming 2 moves.

[sage bluff]

You think I spam, that's funny

[jade jay]

hopefully theres a notice when servers get fixed cuz rn its practically unplayable

[void wigeon]

for some people it is. it's not stable yet. it's in Beta, it will be fixed gradually

[keen vector]

Nerfs are a 10/10.

But the game gets laggy when jake does his stretchy mode and make superman a bruiser because hes to op as a tank. Thats it

[jade jay]

did they post patch notes cuz i dont see anything about todays patch in the servers #patch-notes

[primal otter]

Is it just me or is the game laggy

Maybe just me

[brave current]

WHY ARE BOTS STILL ONLINE

WHY DO I HAVE TO DEAL WITH RUBBER-BANDING AND ROLLBACK AGAINST BOTS

[ivory sky]

Dear devs take everyone on your team and divert all manpower from buffing/ nerfing characters and focus on fixing the "netcode". The netcode is worse than street fighter 5 lagging and teleporting when in closed alpha it was as smooth as butter

[jade jay]

frame rate or server lag? cuz servers have been bad since public release and theyve somehow only gotten worse

[void wigeon]

it's in the website: https://multiversus.bugs.wbgames.com/patch-notes. don't know why they didn't post here tho

[primal otter]

Server lag

[jade jay]

Yeah you’re outta luck there bucko

[primal otter]

Also hit and hurt box's don't seem fixed

Might just be the server lag tho

[burnt glade]

hello... is there any close date for the spectator mode?.

[forest garnet]

why am i getting zoned by IG

[inner locust]

Batman's Air/Ground side special needs a cooldown it's being overused to the point where people spam it and the same dumb combo to win.

[polar sluice]

bugs is still dumb

[tight python]

Im not talking to anyone specifically but I just came here to say that I really don't like how the smash stick works now with this new update. Before I could just press down on it and it would down air in the direction I'm already facing. Now it switches directions based on which direction I press it diagonally. Makes it extremely difficult for some of my combos and neutral. Pls change it back

Cuz its an analog so most of the time I press it down quickly and it is slightly diagonal

Now because of that it switches sides and hits the wrong side

Just some feedback that smash stick did not need to change and I personally don't like it at all

Was this the right place to say all this or do I need to do it somewhere else for an actual dev to end up reading it?

Also they took away tom true combo completely

Cuz of frying pan nerf so oof for tom mains. Not that they did it anyway they just spammed mallet and pan and jerry

[rare yoke]

game stop putting me vs lvl 33s+ ty u

[dusky geyser]

Arya is unplayable like actually truly bad. she was decent enough before, now shes terrible

[cyan patrol]

Bugs down air can stil hitl above him

[rare yoke]

id take that perk nerfed by double? zzz

[willow whale]

tnj nerfs were dumb grahhhhh revert them 😡😡😡

[sharp fable]

the steven universe stage needs another song because it plays way too often. maybe a remix of stronger than you for garnet?

[daring peak]

Dude these sever lags are super irritating and annoying while I’m playing it’s always happening how are there SO many delayed updates like this for “major” updates yet they can’t fix this server problem that’s been a thing for awhile if not getting worst now

[loud fern]

It would be very nice if multiversus actually recognized its asian community

it is almost impossible to play without an asian or even a middle eastern server. all i get is one bar and everyone just teleporting everywhere and im dead cause i jumped off a cliff somewhow

oh and get this, you can't play 1v1 against bots, cause the bot is linked to an online server. and the game will 100% disconnect you while choosing perks.

[stiff nest]

Can y'all make Reindog's up-dodge a little bit faster, travel further, or just not make his up-air halt his up-dodge momentum? It's not easy to make a simple combo like side-air, up-attack (grounded), and up-air a true-combo when your opponent is at a high percent (tested at 60 on Bugs Bunny). Like, u have to use a controller that has extra buttons to jump twice at the same time just for it to be true. also, it's dumb that Reindog's side-air into jab got patched out and wasn't even included in the patch notes. It doesn't work on ANY character now

[subtle cosmos]

He truly did deserve a nerf

[wise schooner]

It would be easier to tell how good the hitbox rework is if the netcode actually worked. I know it's all but certainly different folks working on each. But the wildly--consistently--bad lag that has been present since the post-Evo patch renders most changes pretty null until it's resolved.

[plain frigate]

he needed nerfs bad but they nerfed the wrong thing

[loud fern]

I main harley and i literally can't do any combo cause my hurt box doesn't reach like any other character and for me to actually hit anything i have to press the command button 0,5 seconds before it should hit. Frustration would be an understatement.

[opal talon]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[wise schooner]

Yeah the game somehow feels worse to play than it did yesterday. This is brutal. I love this game so much. But what the hell is going on?

It feels like it is deteriorating.

[opal talon]

Every update this game gets somehow the servers get worse how is this possible?

[lone zinc]

servers are about the same as they have ever been, I think you are just getting more frustrated

[opal talon]

True

[forest socket]

i feel like garnet just doesnt work still even after the very helpful update that made her feel more solid than ever
Heres a list of common garnet complaints
Down aerial will sometimes play the animation without the hitbox where the hitbox should have played if a attack cancel is done (dont know how to consistently recreate it just comes and goes)
Aerial Up Special does not vacuum people in (misses the important hit mainly if not always above opponents causing you to have to be much closer than you should be to guarantee that the 2nd hit will connect after the 1st)
Up air Does not vacuum people in (misses entirely if not practically directly under enemy)
Side air works now thank you guys very much for that!
Marker is a very buggy move having people drop out of it from time to time
(sorry if i missed anything)
At the end of the day i think garnet would be in the best spot possible if she just had a full patch to go towards her buggy gameplay

BUT if you wanted to drop some buffs for a patch
buff dair in the speed regard or buff the knockback as both are kinda lacking for the time it takes to come out
buff marker (honestly dont know in what way) but the best i could think of is allowing garnet to throw you in ANY direction besides of the opposite way she grabbed you in (MIGHT BE BUSTED)
Thanks dev team for making this great game and amazing character!

[lone zinc]

I'd be carefull with buffing Garnet too much, she is stiff but hard hitting so making her handle too well could be OP

[forest socket]

thats entirely fair but these moves that i listed quite literally dont connect with eachother (like one move wont hit into the other as intended)

[lone zinc]

only thing I would maybe touch on Garnet but I'm not sure others would agree is touch her ground down attack, it feels like an attack that is supposed to bring an opponent right to you but instead half or more of the time they go flying to weird places.

[forest socket]

oh my god i literally forgot that existed

because of the fact that releasing it before actually punching the ground is so much better

[forest socket]

wait are you talking about what i said or garnets electric slam?

[lone zinc]

the electric slam
did I get my attacks mixed up??? I think that's her ground down attack no???
at this point I just press buttons knowing what they do without thinking what I'm pressing.

[forest socket]

no i think you said it right

that was my b

garnets electric slam is in a good state as it is, honestly a scrub killer but is very helpful in matchups such as TnJ if both are separated putting pressure on tom while 1 shotting jerry if not punished in time (but thats specific)

the fact that it has armor is pretty huge on an attack like that

[lone zinc]

like I said just a touch on it to be more predictable in how it flings opponents, I'm not saying give it a major buff or anything. The armor is kinda needed as it leaves you fairly vulnerable and it hits quite literally ground only. But again this is just an opinion

[forest socket]

i honestly have no trouble where it flings enemies like at all

its probably one of garnets only consistent things lol

[lone zinc]

maybe a difference in playstyle or something then but for me it feels very inconsistant where I have opponents fall anywhere almost short of approaching me to way over my head (their damage of course factors in) but it feels like it should be more horizontal)

[eternal moon]

New update has made Tom and Jerry practically useless.

[craggy rapids]

Jake did not need a nerf He already had trouble knocking people out Velma did not need a nerf Harley Quinn and bugs bunny as well as reindog still have endless combos where you cannot dodge out of Batman is almost impossible to engage with some characters Finn needs a knock out attack cus currently he doesn’t have any

[shell forge]

Jake was so broken

[stiff nest]

stop the cap. Jake was a completely safe character with high damage that punished people hard for attempting to ko him off the top

Velma is an enabler, one of the reasons why Iron Giant, and Ice To Beat You is nerfed.

Harley Quinn's balloons need less active time on the field or it needs to become possible to destroy with physical attacks. She's already heavier and faster than before.

Bugs Bunny can do everything from safe recoveries to having big attack hitboxes that are fast attacks, and basically his entire move-list are ko attacks

Reindog is not comparable because his loops are not aren't practical outside of lab. he has a buffer on almost everything he does + short range

[vast quest]

Your crazy if think he did not need a nerf

[craggy rapids]

It’s no cap that’s my opinion on it yes Jake had high damage but low potential on ringouts he was balanced maybe in the stretch punch I can agree with but taking away his damage I don’t buffing Harley Quinn I don’t agree with and yes bugs bunny just about his whole kit is knockout attacks and what I mean for Velma is why remove her weaken attack and why remove some weaken on Jake’s special that barely even hits

[stiff nest]

well then I guess it's just flawed. Jake was a heavier Jiggly Puff with longer range. that bite he has applied 5 weakness stacks, even if your teammate hit u out of it. It was used in a way to death combo Iron Giant very easily or 50/50 on any of the other characters.

Harley Quinn is getting her infinite taken away. most likely all infinites. they announced they were working on it.

Velma didn't need weakness attacks. she already got disjointed attacks and projectiles that auto track. hope they never add another character that can do that

[eternal moon]

Only Jake mains will defend how broken he is.

[craggy rapids]

Its not flawed but you have your opinion and I have mine I’m not here to debate with you i’m here to put in my Game feedback on the latest update so you can put your own feedback about it that’s what this chat is about it’s not the debate chat

[stiff nest]

sure man. you are one of the reasons why games take forever to get better 💀

[craggy rapids]

Sure I guess you’re one of the ones that keeps breaking the game

[clear shard]

Stop listening to bad players

[vast quest]

The devs will not know if the person giving feedback is good or bad.

[clear shard]

Bruh they nerfed things on Finn that didn't even need nerfs just to put them back how they were also with Wonder woman they gave her a weight buff just to nerf it and they gave Harley a speed buff and a weight buff for no reason it's almost like they don't play their own game

[craggy rapids]

I just wished thay took there time instead of rushing like make proper balances. love the hit box update tho

[clear shard]

I'll give this game a good 2 months before it becomes like nick all stars

If they keep heading in this direction with these patches

[vast quest]

Did fin not get bruff in this patch

[clear shard]

Bruh they buffed the same things they nerfed

What was the point of nerfing him at all

And they could at least give a good buff like another kill move

[craggy rapids]

Yeah but he should have his knockback back on his bag tho it was literally like his only knockout attack now you can hit a Harley Quinn at 150 damage and it doesn’t even get close to knocking her out I think they should make it so if he has a certain amount of coins in his bag it should be higher knockback

[clear shard]

And it literally doesn't send up anymore only the side

And people still fall out of it even though they said they fixed that

[craggy rapids]

Yep

[clear shard]

And the whole you miss bag you lose a coin thing is pointless

Like you lose 100 coin 😑

[craggy rapids]

I think so too I think it would make more sense to have it if the backpack had more knockback because then it would prevent spamming backpack

[clear shard]

Yeah

[craggy rapids]

Yeah it’s kind of bad on 2vs2

[clear shard]

But what they really need to focus on is the servers

[craggy rapids]

1Vs1 is not bad tho

[wheat pecan]

[clear shard]

[agile helm]

jerry's throw is extremely hard to hit, now that the perk's speed has been halved, everyone dodges easily, this attack has become useless

it would be a good alternative to increase the speed of jerry's throw, but leave the perk as is (10%)

[wheat pecan]

yeah T&J is kinda gutted

the dynamites now explode instantly on impact with ground

[wheat pecan]

i played arya and i still like how she plays

can still get aerial kills

[gentle zinc]

💯

[wheat saffron]

CAN JAKE GET A BUFF AND NOT NERFS???

[wheat saffron]

you can do high damage with jake but knocking people out is a whole other story

[wheat pecan]

no

[agile helm]

the worst was having nerfed the fire damage timing

[scenic crescent]

Nerf Batman’s grapple and make it a cool down ability, he shouldn’t be able to spam it second after second

[cyan patrol]

Why do assassins have some of the worst killing potential

Also there are still several janky hitboxes. For instance bugs down air can still hit above him

[void wigeon]

not everything from hitbox/hurtbox has been fixed. they said it it's the start, they will keep fixing, but now it's better to fix it since it's "bone hurtbox" not "capsule hurtbox"

[obsidian patio]

Is mmr ever going to be fixed

[void wigeon]

That you don't get much when you win?

[obsidian patio]

I have won about 300 games with bugs and its been stuck at 30k global permanently

[void wigeon]

Your stuck at 30k Global with Bugs?

It's Bugs in the leaderboard?

[obsidian patio]

I had about 200 wins with velma previously and im pretty sure thats why it got stuck

I switched mains to bugs and ive played him constantly and my most played is now bugs

But my mmr never changes

My bugs mmr will update

But not my global

[void wigeon]

He's in the leaderboard?

[obsidian patio]

Yes

[void wigeon]

It appears him in the leaderboard and still doesn't change MMR?

Can you say your WB username for me to see something?

[obsidian patio]

its Pugaaa

[void wigeon]

your Velma has a higher MMR than Bugs

[obsidian patio]

So should i intentionally lose games as velma

To bring it down

[void wigeon]

You can win with Bugs until it gets higher than Velma

[obsidian patio]

My velma is at 3k

[void wigeon]

Your Velma has 1384 MMR in Teams

[dusty wharf]

Batman being so aerial dominant is a huge flavor miss, keep his near broken neutral and ground game in tact but weaken his aerials to be very below average so people can actually approach him in the air

[dreamy wigeon]

Bugs didn't get nerfed

[dark horizon]

This game unplayable on last gen

[mental tiger]

I bought the trophy falls background, now they changed it and I want a refund

The waterfall one

[still bolt]

I feel like this is a troll comment

[coral forum]

need badge for <60 damage ringouts

[void wigeon]

agree

[ivory sky]

bro you must have terrible memory cause ive been playing since closed alpha and the servers have become a shell of what they once was. buttery smooth to chunky peanut butter that has been sitting for a year and has become as hard a concrete to churn.

[sick wolf]

When is voicechat coming bruh

[severe thistle]

It's not coming. They said to use other things for voice chat like Discord, or if you're on console join a party.

[runic berry]

Add juggernaut mode and were good

[bronze cedar]

nerf batman for the love of god pls

[tall wagon]

Hitboxes still insanely bad and also Gizmo doesnt have any Armour break moves and the Exitlag out of the Umbrella (only decent Kill option) is way to high

[bronze cedar]

Hitboxes are terrible. Bugs' side attack somehow has more range than Morty's side attack hammer spin

It makes no sense

It's impossible to have fun with characters unless they're Bugs, Finn, or Batman cause their hitboxes for attacks are insane and they all deal so much damage

[knotty cliff]

Nerf jakw

[lone apex]

Third perk for Taz where tornado leaves a trail of fire behind it and the tornado does burn damage

[radiant tendon]

winning and losing points should be determined by performance

[edgy schooner]

bot lobbies should not effect badge numbers. I've been running into people with over 2,000 and even almost 4000 dmg!! there's just no way they did it legit and I think that's annoying.

[void wigeon]

Damage in one match?

[quartz creek]

The game feels very floaty and not as responsive now, like theres a constant lag present?

[forest socket]

bump

[sage bluff]

Give Tom his combos back (not the loop that one is cringe)

[grave briar]

Matches feel like ass can you fix the server please

[opal talon]

for the love and all that is holy focus on those servers

[winter harbor]

The last patch update followed by the release of gizmo, maybe be one of the worst. Some characters still remain broken such as Harley Quinn and Finn. Whilst needing characters that weren't needed for one. For example, Tom and Jerry, there was no need in needing the frying pan move, it creates such a huge chance for enemies to counter attack due to the massive delay after the strike. Causing him to be vulnerable. It creates less chance to follow up with more combos and makes his overall gameplay slower. Seriously being back his frying pan move back again

[radiant tendon]

gizmo isnt weak tho ur just not good at him

[grave briar]

Harley broken???? I have more issues with Jake

[winter harbor]

I didn't say he was broken

[grave briar]

Harley isn’t broken

[winter harbor]

🤨

[grave briar]

Maybe I don’t come across the Harley’s you fight

[lone zinc]

I was talking as of this patch, some on here are complaining as if the servers are getting worse from patch to patch and honestly it's about the same since the start of beta

[radiant tendon]

not at all its definitely noticeably worse the game was extremely smooth at the start now u can definitely notice its worse

[void wigeon]

for some people might be

[radiant tendon]

i would say most happens quite a bit on streams

[tame sentinel]

Yeah it seems the servers chug for a bit after every patch, I think its the increase in players. Hopefully they get it sorted out soon didnt they say they were gonna work on netcode in a tweet or something

[edgy schooner]

yes

[void wigeon]

it's because of a bug that Velma doesn't get knockback so they get a lot of damage in the match. it has nothing to do with being against bots

[edgy schooner]

hmmm maybe, but thats still annoying to the people that are proud of their high damage. and it is still super easy to go into bot 2v2 with a friend and have him do nothing but save you with reindog while you rack up dmg

[steep goblet]

give us the old tom and jerry back

[knotty cliff]

🤓

[cyan patrol]

Ignore everything else until servers and matchmaking are improved

[quick spoke]

Revert the right stick change, In combos I'm turning around and its really annoying to deal with. Unless I'm a skill issue

[radiant tendon]

new characters are whats keeping people playing the game

[lapis heron]

the server has gotten worse since the last update

[solid plume]

It would be cool if you could get some glemanium for free. For example with quests or in the pass. I would really be happy if i could buy morty's skin

[lapis heron]

now i can't play any games anymore

[edgy schooner]

what was the change?

[quick spoke]

@tribal oxide you can ask, I also said it in #975468092341776464

[edgy schooner]

The servers are not that bad. A lot of it is one person in the lobby has bad internet and it ruins it for others. they also said this is the next big thing they are working on. Their doing there best and its really good so far.

[eternal moon]

Feel like you should buff reindog’s knockback, because that’s the main issue that’s dragging him down imo. You could be fighting someone at 190, and any character at that, and no attack but the spike knocks them instantly

[wise schooner]

This is cap. The netcode/server performance is borderline inexcusable at this point. The problem has persisted for a while now--consistently. The game has done very well so far. This should be a very, very high priority. Games being as laggy as SFIV online can and will drive folks away. I love the game and am sticking around for good. But the base fans are never as patient as the die hards.

[arctic comet]

ADD PROXIMATY VOICECHAT

[wheat pecan]

[edgy schooner]

I agree full heartedly, I'm new to fighting games online so I dont know a whole lot but I do know fighter games are known for bad netcode and laggy servers so there has to be a good reason why. I'm sure its not easy, but I also am sure they will find a way with this game

[edgy schooner]

dude that would be the funniest but most toxic thing ever😂

[arctic comet]

exactly

[edgy schooner]

whisper in their ear while infinite comboing them lol

[lapis heron]

add a good netcode

[opal talon]

I don't even think that would be the most toxic part. I think solo que players into doubles will be

[radiant tendon]

solo is a coinflip whether u win either way

[torn gale]

If any developers see this please fix your servers

[cyan patrol]

What's really frustrating is that it's gotten worse over time. People who played closed alpha say it's worse. I've only played since the first day of beta but it's worse now than it was then too. Don't get me wrong most matches are fine but it's gone from like 1 in every 10 matches being laggy to 2 in every 10. The fact that after several patches it's only gotten worse is troubling

[void wigeon]

Closed Alpha was different. it had a lot less people playing. for me it's the same since Tech Test, zero lag so far

[ocean timber]

When I’m playing Harley Quinn she tends to lag whenever I use her ground side attacks I’m not sure why (in the lab was where I seen this)

[gentle zinc]

Possibly just me, but as much as i'm happy the hurtbox changes are here I can't hit anyone now 😂 . Feels like THERE IS A TON OF LAG I see things whiff but then they'll hit or miss when they appear to hit and its weird. Why are servers getting so janky?? Early days it was perfect and as time went on it just continues to seemingly get worse. Hard to judge how general gameplay feels now due to the instability

[edgy schooner]

true

[edgy schooner]

its probably because the new hitboxes are complicated compared to the old and it weighs the server down as it tries to tell what section and compute where exactly you hit both on their hurtbox and your hitbox

[gentle zinc]

Game isn't gonna survive like this because as fun and great as the game is if we're all lagging every game all day especially when people have bad connections nobody is gonna play at least not online

Like I stopped playing yesterday because of it thinking maybe its just today but its still happening now. Also please stop buffing wonder woman I don't think she ever needed buffing to begin with and now her combined with Gizmo is ridiculous with him riding her back with his music thing stopping me from breaking her armor its really dumb trying to stop that. Especially now since tom and jerry's dynamite explodes when it hits the floor

It was really good for breaking armored moves and now that's nearly impossible to do making armor once again feel ridiculously overtuned.

Definitely also should be able to report people for jumping off killing themselves early. Need that asap because i'm not trying to tolerate their whiny behavior since they're not winning they wanna just end the game that's still winnable

Harley feels really good now. Like wow.

[twin birch]

how can you messup the hitboxes even more? Half of attacks dont land like jesus, this is across other platforms too so I know it's not my wifi. Dev team is embarrassing

[gentle zinc]

don't be rude they're trying

[void wigeon]

the new patch come with the first step to fixing hitbox/hurtbox. not everything is fixed yet but with this patch, next hitbox/hurtbox issues will be easier to fix it. don't need to be super aggressive, it's a small dev team, it's their first game and it's in Beta

[leaden willow]

Shaggy’s down ground attack can’t combo into its second attack at high percentages. And it is not really useful at low percentage cuz you can use other moves for higher damage. Maybe make it come out faster cuz it’s basically useless now

[manic field]

Nerf Harley Quinn

[twin birch]

1. Game isn't beta
2. For a fighting game having decent hitboxes should be the bare minimum before anything else in a character progresses
3. Even if a small dev team most of the issues are on a smaller scale and backed by a multibillion dollar company. I understood when playing close alpha and beta but we're way past that into full release

1.02 should be past small issues that have big impact like hit/hurt boxes and attack priority. Without those properly made it will also screw up balancing with attacks when it's worked on. For some of these hitbox issues just screwing around in The Lab you can find them, you should expect the devs to play their own game

[void wigeon]

1 - it is in Beta | 2 - I understand | 3 - nothing to say about it besides it's not full release yet

[twin birch]

it's literally 1.02

[manic field]

The range her baseball bat is insane and her hit box for her combos is absurd. She could spam her hammer and deal and insane amount of damage.

[void wigeon]

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[slow dragon]

What did it say?

[vast quest]

I disagree to me the full game is out because of one. They have started the season, you can buy skins and characters in the game, and they keep updating the game every 2 weeks. If you can buy stuff in-game with real money it's not a beta.

[void wigeon]

so? it's still in Beta

[gentle zinc]

Game can still be in beta buy stuff or not lots of games that are in beta sell you stuff so you just gave yourself up showing you know not what you're talking about

but beta or not things are still jank.

[twin birch]

if a game in in 1.0+ that's full release. The game had a whole pre-order for early access before open beta and full release

[gentle zinc]

preorder????

lyin

[twin birch]

steam preorder for founders

[void wigeon]

no it's not. the game didn't fully release yet

[void wigeon]

you could buy to get Early Access or watch Twitch streams. then July 26th started Open Beta and it's still in Open Beta until then

[vast quest]

I am talking about in-game.

[void wigeon]

Beta can sell stuff

[twin birch]

yes then s1 released on the 15th marking the full games release

[void wigeon]

no it didn't fully released

[twin birch]

take 2 seconds to google, this is not a hill to die on man

[gentle zinc]

that's what I also mean...

[void wigeon]

you want to be on the wrong side it's on you

the game is in Beta, you don't want to believe it's on you

[twin birch]

bro you dont even know how patchnotes work

[gentle zinc]

Game is still listed as beta when you login unless they just forgot to change it and they did announce it as being the full launch but everything still functions as if its beta and they've not changed it to not say beta so...

[void wigeon]

when you open the game it says it's in Beta and even Tony(Game Director) said it's in Beta, what more do you need?

[void wigeon]

they didn't announce as full release. they didn't say Beta would leave

[winter prism]

BUFF T&J

[vast quest]

Want other beta games have you played that sell in-game?

[void wigeon]

Fortnite was in Beta for 3 years(2017-2020) selling a lot of stuff

[gentle zinc]

Home Sweet Home survive is the most recent along with this one

Apex more than likely did too

[gentle zinc]

So Harley feels good, Bugs bunny feels good, Jake feels good, Morty felt terrible to me but people are playing him so probably okay, Tom and Jerry feel like absolute garbage. Taz feels terrible as well

[twin birch]

full release was with season 1 starting, they stated that the game would indefinitely be in beta during open beta after backlash. Full release is the 1.0 release which is standard among game development. It's the equivalent of asking a professor for extra time for an essay after realizing how bad your essay was

didn't wanna drag ya back here but I had to do somethin before hand

[void wigeon]

the game is still in Beta, you want to think differently it's on you

[twin birch]

Imagine if after 1.0 release of cyberpunk, no mans sky, COD, etc. not released to the majority's standard they publicly said "yeah we're sorry for disappointing, we're still in beta" 🤷‍♂️

[rancid chasm]

Please buy Asia servers

[void wigeon]

I'm not going to say anything more about this okay. the game is still in Beta, I'm probably not going to be able to convince you so here's what it shows that the game is in Beta: https://imgur.com/SQjdfC3 | https://imgur.com/HgQpjzi and here's everything that shows it's not:

[void wigeon]

they'll stabilize the servers before adding more regions. the game is still in Beta so it could come only when the game fully releases | https://twitter.com/Tony_Huynh/status/1552191846373150721 | https://twitter.com/Tony_Huynh/status/1548743243512176642 (Tony tweets saying about the servers)

[brave current]

I am asking for the one millionth time why bots are on the worst servers possible, let alone why they need online to function

there is no excuse for this

[opal talon]

I have accepted that I will wait until next patch again for servers to be fixed.

[void wigeon]

the game is in Beta. servers will not be fixed from one patch to another. they'll upgrade servers gradually

[opal talon]

That's why I said I will wait

[void wigeon]

but you said until next patch, like it's going to be fully fixed then

[gentle zinc]

Take back what I said. Tom and Jerry feel fine when there's no lag present

[sharp fable]

iron giant needs another nerf, his up ground attack is super spammy and is really hard to counter especially if you're offstage and isn't punished for spamming it, and his down special is still very annoying to deal with if a player spams it the whole match, especially in 2v2 and on a small stage like tree fort.

[gentle zinc]

you can hit him out down special spam with the right spacing but i understand

[thin citrus]

revert arya changes shes horrible now

[paper kestrel]

Please let me tech !!! This is missing so much to the game at least put a perks or something why the heck we can’t tech 😭

I mean this is a must there is so much bounce in the game we should be able to tech with the dodge button

[pulsar wyvern]

Fix servers and mathmaking

[eternal moon]

Servers are literal dog lately. Thank God yall got rollback 💀

[sonic orbit]

fix servers

actually unplayable

[cursive canopy]

Morty and Gizmo doesn't have any spanish voice clips, it's a real immersion breaker and just doesn't feels right

[eternal moon]

Ik everyone's said it, but FIX THE DAMN SERVERS. Stupid lag spike just costed me a match

Every update the servers get worse

[cyan patrol]

3 stocks each, its a close match and then lag Tele death invalidating the whole match. Cool stuff

[stiff garden]

i wish you could reroll weekly missions, cause bruh, "get the most assists in 25 games"?

[wise schooner]

this is out of pocket

[eternal moon]

Is it though

Don’t get me wrong sometimes they do good but then you over nerf characters and nerf the wrong things about some characters

And the gremlin is practically untouchable

So how are you supposed to beat him

[wise schooner]

Yeah, what was out of pocket was your behavior and how you made your criticism lol. That is literally immature.

[eternal moon]

You know you are right about that

I agree with the superman complaints. He's so broke. Broken Armor attacks, undodgeable grabs, he sucks to fight against

[earnest crow]

grabs can be dodged you just havent tried and he's not the only character with armor on some moves though he does have quite a few

[frank roost]

thank you for fixing the servers i used to lag but the server fix really did something, green bar 80% of matches thanks PFG

also thanks for fixing MMR, it wasn’t tracking correctly but now its working as it should thanks again

[eternal moon]

Nah. They're practically undodgeable. I always time the dodges in game, always get grabbed. Don't defend superman

[earnest crow]

Ok

[edgy schooner]

ok... maybe I was wrong saying that these servers ain't that bad earlier... cause now I can barley even play at all... I really hope they can fix this fast cause this fricken sucks!

[ivory sky]

no it has been getting worse

[worn estuary]

Nerf Iron giant again 💀

Give him that triple treatment

[lusty topaz]

Just take finns backpack move out

[worn estuary]

Take iron giant out

[lusty topaz]

Facts tho

[worn estuary]

Put like

Astro boy💀

[lusty topaz]

Replace iron giant with Cyborg

[edgy schooner]

It's sad because I have a friend who wants to play IG but most who play him are so toxic and he's so annoying my friend just gets bullied while I chase the two dudes beating him the whole game. He is a really cool character with his platform like properties but man, all his moves hitting multiple times mixed with him being hard to knock out (if the players good) just makes a super annoying to play against character that is originally beloved. Its a shame really. I'd say he needs some hitbox nerfs on the cannonball (if your above right after he hits, he'll hit you from quite far) and he either needs some moves to hit for WAY less or not hit multiple times. Ik he's big so he cant have hits that'll one hit you far away(cause he's so tall you'll just die...) but at least tone down that damage cause he can spam all game and have over 325dmg every match even with decay. Thanks and sorry for the big paragraph...

[blazing brook]

Skill based matchmaking

[edgy schooner]

is there a character xp glitch??

answer my own question. yes, there is

[wheat saffron]

first game on i lag into the void across the map perfect ping while fighting then just out of no where into the void across the map

[wheat saffron]

WHATS WITH THIS STUPID LAG????????

also why am i getting paired against top 200 players like im a 40k

[rare yoke]

school me once perk is op

[solid plume]

There should be a better matchmaking

[lunar imp]

i just gonna throw out a few suggestions for garnet buff's .... we most sertently don't need all of them
-Let Nair carry the momentum.
-rythem buff last longer or gets build up faster
-Upspecial cooldown Slightly down
-Ari Side Special more range
-Huge buff (at least if we look at the inputs) Dash and/or jump cansel out of Side Light attack (downside of it, the Neutral Light gets even less use then it allready has)

[neat stirrup]

ABSOLUTELY UNPLAYABLE WE NEED ASIA SERVERS

[flat zodiac]

just go somewhere else

[neat stirrup]

Been trying to Stream this Game and Asia Region is where I'm from.... I barely hit 70 on asia... when I play against NA or OCE player I'm getting around 160-300 ping

@flat zodiac leave me alone I'm just trying to help improve the game

[flat zodiac]

it was a joke

[modern sand]

On the select perk screen in teams after characters have been selected, can the button that says auto equip perks attempt to copy your teammates perks before selecting whatever perks it defaults to, please?

[low wren]

how come sometimes people falling down get teleported back to the middle of the platform?

[vast needle]

can you please make the game available in more countries? it's not available in india and I really want to play it!

[eternal moon]

Would be nice to have a block button.

[low wren]

win 1 round: +1mmr
rematch and lose next: -15mmr

[pearl knoll]

Rerolling a daily mission should guarantee that you don't get that mission again in the same day. I hate it when I reroll a mission, finish the mission that replaced it, and the new mission that comes in is the one I decided to reroll.

[void wigeon]

They'll stabilize the servers before adding more regions | https://twitter.com/Tony_Huynh/status/1552191846373150721 | https://twitter.com/Tony_Huynh/status/1548743243512176642

[blazing storm]

I hope Asia gets a server but it would also be nice to be able to play the game without rubberbanding every single match in Los Angeles

[slender wadi]

in the gamemode cooperative vs IA, in all matches the bots pick Reindog and Wonder Woman, i think it should be like in the Beta, random characters, not always the same

[void wigeon]

it's happening this for me too, only once was Reindog and Batman but the rest since last update was Reindog and Wonder Woman. I think it's a bug because it wasn't before last update. why you said it should be like in Beta if the game is still in Beta?

[slender wadi]

sorry for saying Beta, i want to say pre-season

[lucid pasture]

"beta" in todays game industry is such a loose term

[void wigeon]

it happened after last update. since S1 launch and last update was random characters. I think it's a bug from last update

[slender wadi]

ah ok, i didnt play too much in S1, i didnt know its from last update that bug haha

[random pond]

Who the nerd nerfed bugs bunny to the ground, its just unplayable now

[haughty copper]

And they keep doing nothing to Superman instakill moves

[random pond]

just bring back the bunny

it is my only main ffs

[wheat pecan]

@void wigeon whats your level

[void wigeon]

Finished 30 or 31 yesterday

[wheat pecan]

interesting

faster than me

you must've completed your weeklies more

[void wigeon]

I have 2 left

[wheat pecan]

oh I have a lot

like 6 at least

i got a very 💩 one this last week

25 elims with 60 damage or less

https://i.gyazo.com/d57a60fcd7278bae20739e43cb8f905e.jpg my last game as arya btw

[void wigeon]

I got one that's difficult for me to do because I don't do a lot: 50 elims from the bottom of the ring

[rare yoke]

win 1 round: +1mmr
rematch and lose next: -15mmr

[wheat pecan]

its not that bad against bots

[void wigeon]

Still hard for me. I'm not good at doing those

[wheat pecan]

I dont like the fact that I reroll a daily quest and i get it again after

dont click that

@surreal estuary

[unique steppe]

feelsbad. I went from 1559 to 1511 for losing 1 round but winning the best 2 out of 3 match lmao. this game's system is so bad

[eternal moon]

gizmos hitbox for down attacks is broke

[heady sonnet]

We should get more character-specific Challenges imo, it feels strange to have one for wonder woman and then no other character specific ones. obviously ones that require things like projectile ringouts can only be done with characters that have projectiles, but I think more challenges that require a specific character would be nice

[flat zodiac]

if that does happen they should only be for characters you own or are in free rotation

[still bolt]

After hitting top 50 Bugs and top 300 global I started to lose points after winning

Win = -25 MMR. lol. Completely gave up on the MMR system after that

[wheat pecan]

the reason only WW gets challenges is because she is a free hero and everyone can do the said challenges

[heady sonnet]

i agree with what ziraga said about character specific challenges are for characters in free rotation, or at the very least also shaggy who is also free

[still bolt]

I don't want to be forced to play other characters. Hard disagree with the character specific thing

Maybe challenges for your most played character would be OK

[heady sonnet]

That'd be cool

[still bolt]

Or a main character system like Street Fighter V has

You can pick your main

[wheat pecan]

just make it under an umbrella

like some of the current ones are

"projectile elimination" "tank hero" "DC hero"

it doesn't ask you to play a specific character and you still get to pick

you might not like bugs bunny as projectile hero but like tom and jerry and can complete that mission

[still bolt]

I normally pay gold to skip "play DC characters" challenges

[heady sonnet]

you really dislike them that much?

[flat zodiac]

spiderman better

[still bolt]

I'm one of those people who only play 1 single character

I love DC by the way

Character-specific challenges taking in account your main character (as in, most played one) would be very nice.

Let's say you're a Bugs main. "Ring-out an opponent using your pie" serves as an example

"Charm 3 opponents"

[wheat pecan]

i dont see it happening tho

[still bolt]

And the list goes on

[wheat pecan]

there won't be much variety in that

you should play more characters though

if they nerf your main to the ground what are you going to do? quit?

its always nice to play multiple characters

[flat zodiac]

he has a point there

[heady sonnet]

Speaking of daily challenges, maybe there could be a reward for collecting multiple at a time if you complete more than one in the same match

[still bolt]

I'm a Bugs main and they're nerfing him for like the fourth consecutive time now lmao

I won't discuss character balance but I think he's fine right now. And I won't drop him unless they completely butcher him in a way that kills his identity. I chose Bugs not because of tier lists but because he was my favorite cartoon back when I was a kid. I even had a '96 Space Jam poster back in the day. Also I really enjoy how he plays so its a blast to play him for me.

[cinder sable]

ThIs game took a significant step back in terms of being fun to play with this latest “balancing patch”. If the devs keep destroying the game similarily with each patch, this game might be dead before they even get out of the beta testing phase

[still bolt]

Hitboxes and balance changes overall didn't bother me (and I play Bugs, nerfed for the 95th consecutive time). I'm REALLY mad at the bugs they've introduced though. Game feels like ass to play right now. Sluggish, laggy and unresponsive. C-Stick is broken so it is literally unplayable for me right now. I've dropped it until the next patch.

[radiant tendon]

we dont need nerfs or buffs till the netcode is playable

[wheat pecan]

I mean I doubt they will

look at Taz and Finn, they were nerfed a lot, and now they got buffed quite a bit again

[still bolt]

I thought like that too. But the community overall seem to really hate Bugs. Devs take this into consideration as we could see with the Taz nerf back then: they even said you could play around it, but they're nerfing it due to public outcry. I think Bugs will face the same fate

[wheat pecan]

the only character that I personally have a problem with since the game released is iron giant

[still bolt]

It's been like 4 consecutive patches with nerfs. After the hitbox patch I really believe Bugs is perfectly fine to play against. I main him so obviously I know my ways around bad Bugs players, you can whiff punish his up air even before the latest patch. Still, people are complaining. I can already see that people will keep complaining even after the recent nerfs and hitbox fixes. I really hope they don't but I believe devs will keep nerfing him until people say he's "fair" (aka when he's butchered like Taz was)

[wheat pecan]

everything else you can play around

bugs got a lot of nerfs in the last patch so I doubt they will touch him again unless its some buff

[still bolt]

Agreed. I won't be a hypocrite though. Bugs was really, really strong. But I think people complain too much instead of labbing and working around it

The nerfs were well deserved. But I think that's enough for now

[radiant tendon]

how can u actively balance a game when most lobbies are consistently filled with lag ur getting hit by a move that shouldnt touch u but it will cause ur lagging

[still bolt]

I completely agree with what you're trying to say. They need to stop focusing on "balance issues" when the game is, quite literally, unplayable right now

Due to multiple reasons. Lag, both online and offline, and now the C-Stick bug that renders it completely unplayable for right stick users

[wheat pecan]

at least they are doing stuff

[still bolt]

After the latest patch it feels like I'm playing launch Street Fighter V. I don't know if anyone here had this experience but it was a very laggy game even offline

[wheat pecan]

the hitbox/hurtbox update is very good

next thing should be servers improvement and then ranked/matchmaking update

[hollow imp]

Please bring the same new keyboard options to controllers also. I play with a sega saturn pad, even for arcade stick players it would help a lot.

[dim crest]

CAN WE GET THE PEACEMAKER?? 🕊

[flat zodiac]

why is everyone having such huge lag problems

[radiant tendon]

i dont even feel like the hitbox hurtbox patch actually worked since i can still see unresponsive hitboxes

[random pond]

@still bolt i respect your opinion, but bugs could really get atleast a speed buff, hes a bunny afterall

[flat zodiac]

“servers tanked” this and “extreme lag” that when nothing is happening to me

i genuinely feel like the chosen one looking at this channel sometimes

the prodigy destined to never lag

[radiant tendon]

im on ethernet seeing people teleport its disgusting cause its only on this game

[still bolt]

I think buffing Bugs right now would be a very polemic thing to do. They don't want that heat. Also to be honest with you I think he's already very fast. In the latest patch movement is quite broken so he feels slower than he actually is

[radiant tendon]

buffing bugs speed cause hes a bunny is bad logic cause harley is a gymnast but slow aryas weapon isnt heavy but shes slow

[tacit gull]

Add ranked

[random pond]

I used a techique about ascending to the sky and dropping the safe, but i cant get to the half as high on the map even after using all 6 jumps

[flat zodiac]

6?

[radiant tendon]

so ur complaining about bugs speed after using 6 jumps?

[random pond]

I lost 20 consecutive games today and i thought my skill went down but it was nerf

[random pond]

2 jumps, 2 specials, 2 dodges

[radiant tendon]

20 games is skill not the nerf

[random pond]

Ffa has no mmr

[radiant tendon]

ur skill went down

[random pond]

And i cant just get a stroke over the night causing to lose all skills

I play this game everyday

I am like at 30/50 battlepass

[radiant tendon]

ive never seen anyone lose 20 games in a row thats u 100%

[wheat pecan]

even if it had mmr, mmr doesn't work

[random pond]

It would, the more you lose (especially consecutively) the noober players u get

[eternal moon]

Harley Quinn series costume for, who else, Harley Quinn.

[wheat pecan]

yea that's how it's suppose to work

but it doesn't work that way at the moment

[sonic orbit]

Has Tony mentioned anything ab fixing the servers

[lunar imp]

for me it was -32 ;)

[eternal moon]

When I said slowmode for general, I meant #general, not #general-2.

[stone knoll]

what the f**k is with the rubber banding

[fossil widget]

I get that a lot of people are saying it but the server are just so bad since the patch

[broken wagon]

broken game literally.

fraymakers comes out next month go play it instead

[red mirage]

remove trophy's edge pls

[wheat saffron]

they should be a way to be able to only zoom on your player cause holy i cant see a thing when im fighting in teams

need glasses for my monitor ong

[wheat saffron]

bro holy like i need a magnifining glass to see things on this game

[still bolt]

Literally. Can't play it. C-Stick bug prevents me

[fleet plover]

The WW speed and weight nerf was unnecessary. Yet Iron Giant cant still solo a duo. 🤷🏾

[radiant tendon]

ur combo game was barely affected suck it up

[fleet plover]

Theres a noticeable difference in her combo speed.

[radiant tendon]

do u play arya and u lost a bread and butter combo and kill confirm? no? okay dont wanna hear it

[maiden spindle]

Unruin Cromulons

[still bolt]

Disagree completely. EVO champ and then got inexplicably and severely buffed right after winning the biggest tourney on earth. Not saying she's OP (I don't think there's an OP character in the game right now) but she's definitely strong

[maiden spindle]

Iron Giant is bottom 1

[still bolt]

Yup. Feels like we play different games tbh

Bugs been nerfed for like, the 5th time in a row now? I feel like he's fine since the up air/nair recovery frames patch. Can consistently whiff punish spammers. But people still complain like he's pre-season Bugs. lol

Iron Giant sucks massive balls and is still getting nerfed to oblivion

Tom losing his loops, too. Like why

[stiff nest]

so true. Iron Giant is terrible now. why the change to his gray health in rage mode? any time it's activated it's like "hey guys, come and KO me"

[radiant tendon]

bugs is fine right now hes in a good spot no matter what anyone says giant is heavily carried by bolts thats the only thing annoying about him

[maiden spindle]

Sure bolts is annoying, but you can just run away from him until time runs out

But it does force you to change how you are playing

[still bolt]

Exactly what I do. It works very well as a "combo breaker" but usually IG mains are dumb and waste it on neutral for absolutely no reason

[maiden spindle]

Yup

[still bolt]

If IG uses it as a combo breaker then it's extremely hard to win imo

Every time I touch him = combo break

So annoying

[maiden spindle]

Yeah but you can go right back to comboing him before bolts cooldown refreshes

[still bolt]

Good to know. I never played him but I think my win rate against IG is like 90%

I only play 2v2s. 99% of the time the IG player has a dummy partner that simply watches him getting looped to death

Instead of helping

[radiant tendon]

think of bolts as a braindead get out of jail free card instantly stops u from any danger of getting edge guarded takes u out of combos that can kill its annoying

sadly he "needs" it

[still bolt]

I think it's easy to counterplay it

[stiff nest]

dang it's almost like u never heard of multi-hit attacks or double teaming Iron Giant 💀

[radiant tendon]

think of it like this just because something has counterplay doesnt make it okay

[still bolt]

I totally think it makes it OK. I'm not an IG player btw

[frank roost]

remove platforms

[radiant tendon]

so u also think superman casually killing at 40 starting from anywhere is okay too right?

[fresh otter]

Idk what the hell is going on with you devs, but catering to every cry babies need is butchering this game little by little. Velma calling the Police to arrest players isn't racist. Just because she so happens to arrest Lebron sometimes and all these "Offended" white kids complained. Get a grip on this . That's just what happens on Scooby Doo. No police brutality or racism at all. What's racist is your community insinuating such things and you guys for following along. As a Puerto Rican male living here in America I'm disappointed in you devs and Cancel Culture. For misusing your voice for petty things like this. I hope Shonen Jump comes back out with their own smash clone this is Pathetic on your part Devs.

[radiant tendon]

cop car arresting lebron was actually funny

[cyan patrol]

Something can have a counterplay, but if it's really difficult to pull off while the original thing is really easy it can still be a problem. I'm not saying this is the case with IG, just in general

[maiden spindle]

Yeah, the cop car was something funny and clearly not actually racist

And the Mystery Van doesn't make sense like the cop car

[cyan patrol]

The actual vehicle related to the show doesn't make sense... but one that has nothing to do with the show does?

[radiant tendon]

the cops arrest whoever is the culprit of the mystery

[maiden spindle]

The Mystery Van only has the Scooby Doo gang, and even in the show the police would arrest the criminals

The Gang solves the crime, the police arrest the culprit

[still bolt]

Nope, you can't generalize like that.

I think it's super unfair in 1v1s. Probably the no1 most unfair thing in the game?

2v2? Hella annoying but FAIR considering a smart duo can kill Superman almost for free once he starts grabbing.

[cyan patrol]

Yes at the end the police would, but a cop car itself never was relevant. Survey 100 people about things in Scooby-Doo and exactly zero will say cop car

[still bolt]

I think every fighting game has a braindead character. In this case I honestly believe Superman is the one

I don't think he's OP, just super low IQ. Dumb af

[cyan patrol]

Superman is not the strongest but I think it is the cheesiest

That or shaggy

Or was, not sure with latest patch

[radiant tendon]

once again just because it has counterplay does not make it okay ur teammate can save u yes but he has to press like 3 buttons to kill u with little to no effort thats not skillful or healthy for competitive play

[jovial pecan]

Main things I want the devs to look into: Netcode (obvious reasons), hitstun (certain characters can combo only because a character is unable to dodge when still able to move), hitboxes (many characters can hit behind themself, a thing they only addressed once with Finn’s sair)

[still bolt]

Definitely not skillful but idk about healthy. Every game has braindead stuff like this. Some people just enjoy playing dumb characters?

I evaluate things through an risk X reward perspective. In 1v1 it is beyond dumb because it's got massive reward (free kill at low %) with no risk whatsoever. In duos its balanced imo, he can kill you or he can die, it's a good risk X reward ratio

[maiden spindle]

Shaggy neutral B has no canonical relevance.
Finn's shop doesn't either
Wonder woman down special (i think) doesn't either
All of Velma's moves doesn't (she is a normal person), like her head growing
Tom & Jerry don't work together
Almost all of Gizmo's moves doesn't either

When I think Gizmo, I don't think of a music-based projectile using gremlin.

[radiant tendon]

watch the hbox tourney that tiff4ny won a superman didnt play the game he sat off stage while his teammate hit them to him so he could kill them

[cyan patrol]

To some extent especially for characters who don't fight in the original ip they have to come up with something. But what I said was that the mystery van actually makes more sense with the show

For any of those examples if they can use something better related they should

[radiant tendon]

cop car was better in every way it was funny people could joke about it

[cyan patrol]

Tell the joke

[radiant tendon]

velma is the karen of mvs thats funny if u dont find it funny idk what to tell u bud

[queen pawn]

I think Gizmo should have a special input for his up special that guarantees not attaching to a teammate, something like doing the move then pressing a certain button, or hold vs tap, or anything like that
Reasoning: it is very annoying trying to go for a kill and then randomly attaching to your teammate who was a bit too close to you randomly

[cyan patrol]

How is she the Karen of mvs? How does Karen even remotely apply. I think you have no idea what you're even saying anymore

[radiant tendon]

she calls the cops are u slow??

[cyan patrol]

The whole thing of a Karen is calling the cops about something stupid.

It literally doesn't even make sense in this context

[maiden spindle]

That is not the main joke associated with Velma calling the police

[cyan patrol]

Whatever, personally I think the mystery van is better and makes more sense but ppl can like what they like

[radiant tendon]

her doing it to lebron is what it made it funny

[maiden spindle]

Yes

[last robin]

What the hell did y'all do to Velma????

The van is ridiculous, it's 2 times faster and instantly kills you

The police car would just walk around with you inside of it and you'd take like 50 damage

But now you just instantly die

Velma is one of the character I play as, and that stuff isn't balanced at all

[radiant tendon]

its weird how the people who found the cop car arresting lebron offensive werent black

[broken wagon]

they don't have a working game*

[last robin]

I mean, I believe they're trying their best but c'mon

[broken wagon]

nah

[maiden spindle]

This game is horribly imbalanced and they often make bad changes in their patches

[broken wagon]

it's just a free to play cash grab

they seen nasb be able to make a smash clone so they pitched in and did the same

[maiden spindle]

I don't think it's a cash grab, but they definitely have a lot of work to do if they want to keep their little remaining playerbase

[maiden spindle]

There are a TON of moves that are very very similar to smash

[broken wagon]

lebron james is just mario

[maiden spindle]

no

[broken wagon]

D: he feels like it

[maiden spindle]

no he doesnt

Mario has long combos that mostly use up air
LeBron has short combos and revolves around playing with his balls

[broken wagon]

fireball = basket ball
lebron james forward air = marios forward air
etc.

I'm not sure about the forward air it might be nair

honestly can't remember

[maiden spindle]

LeBron has no move similar to mario fair

[earnest cave]

Garnet bubble NEEDS to reset projectile duration when a projectile is properly bubbled. A bubbled projectile SHOULD NOT expire before it is able to be reflected back at the opponent.

[maiden spindle]

also fireball only travels one direction and does not change Mario's moves and does not have a built in cooldown

[cyan patrol]

Morty is link. Bombs, shoots a gun rather than an arrow, and has the vacuum spin vs sword spin

[maiden spindle]

This would be a good change

[broken wagon]

dr. cool I was making a accusation

that there is something similar there

obviously inspiration at least

[maiden spindle]

I don't see it, and I've played both games too much

[broken wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/827660051841810452.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[queen pawn]

it's insane how something that exists in this world took inspiration from something else that exists in this world, it's almost like new ideas are just remixed old ideas but executed and implemented differently

[still bolt]

That's quite normal nowadays lmfao. Ever seen the guy dressed as Mexican video? Every cali dude and girl saying "it's offensive/disrespectful/cultural appropriation" but Mexicans in Mexico said "that's very nice brother beautiful Sombrero" lmfao

[void wigeon]

Lebron plays basketball so obviously he will have a move to throw his basketball and his forward air is similar to Mario in what way?

[maiden spindle]

He doesn't have a move similar to it