general

[halcyon meadow]

gold players oml

[thorny vale]

Bruh you get off to arguing with people online cause you can't stand your ground irl

I'll stick to gold thank you

[halcyon meadow]

bro what?

arguing is arguing has nothing to do with irl you know you hurt if you bringin that up lowk

[thorny vale]

Yes I'm hurt cause some dude with an anime pfp likes to argue

[halcyon meadow]

ooh real zinger bro anime pfp class of 09 gahhh how will i live

[thorny vale]

My face is red I am shaking from pure anger rn and crying

At 4 30 in the morning

[halcyon meadow]

probably because your points dissapeared and started going for profile pictures 💀

[thorny vale]

Honestly you never have any points you just no but then spout bs

[halcyon meadow]

sure bro sure

[thorny vale]

Wich idk how you can keep it up it seems like it'd be boring after awhile

[halcyon meadow]

bro you continue to be upset over a dbd opinion lmaoo

[thorny vale]

Idk wether to feel bad or be impressed about that truthfully

[thorny vale]

Alright?

Stating points is upset now

[halcyon meadow]

no way bro just admitted that

[thorny vale]

Does that mean your upset to

[halcyon meadow]

idk man you seem pretty hostile so far its never that deep gangy please dont tell me you are a grown adult doin ts

[open girder]

das crazy

[thorny vale]

Not really hostile but alright

Sarcastic sure

[halcyon meadow]

yeah submit to daddy

[thorny vale]

Racist and creepy

[halcyon meadow]

racist im mixed fyi lmao

[thorny vale]

That's a cool combo

[halcyon meadow]

you cannot be grown bro im sorry you gotta be 13

[open girder]

oh what

[halcyon meadow]

tracer line

[thorny vale]

And you just said that to a 13 year old

[halcyon meadow]

boowomp

[thorny vale]

I am 14

[ivory silo]

Gerd is so stupid bro

[halcyon meadow]

ahhhh now i see that's why sorry kiddo aint mean to hurt your feelings

[thorny vale]

Lol nice PFP

[ivory silo]

Thanks man

[thorny vale]

So you still want a 14 year old to submit to daddy

[ivory silo]

Currently having a wicked sick Gastroesophageal reflux disease attack

[halcyon meadow]

not that much younger than me bro relax lol

takin it to heart but aye what floats your boat

[ivory silo]

Terrible choice of words LMAO

[thorny vale]

Feel that

Indeed

[ivory silo]

I’m having a mini heart attack as i read that that is kinda funny

[thorny vale]

But yeah stripe in dbd would be cool to see imo

Honestly trapper in mvs when cross promoting they could do that with pennywise or this new Freddy update

A game with millions of players would be good publicity

[halcyon meadow]

okay bro wrap it up

[thorny vale]

Whys that

[halcyon meadow]

do you know the lore of the game your fangirling over rn do you know what trapper stands for why hes in dbd

[thorny vale]

Do you know Jason

Actually wait your right plague would fit mvs better

Or why not trapper with a plague skin in mvs

[halcyon meadow]

yes a guy with tons of moves from a ton of movies vs a killer with bear traps and swings once with a hook also being kept by the entity like most of their killers they are FORCED to stay and never leave killing over and over moron

[thorny vale]

Multiversus

[halcyon meadow]

thats what the dbd characters like Trapper Plague twin are IN dbd for to be KEPT there unless a spinoff by the actual behavior themselves id know

[thorny vale]

Infinite ones

[halcyon meadow]

abso moron bro stick to algrebra one gang

[thorny vale]

Mvs could be a Dbd spin off

[halcyon meadow]

are you slow

[thorny vale]

If they add more killers to it

[halcyon meadow]

mvs is not by behavior you moron

[thorny vale]

Your the one keeping this going it's just gonna get more absurd

[halcyon meadow]

it cant be a spinoff you gotta focus in school i know your in a special classroom and all but damn dawg

[thorny vale]

What if mvs became Dbd and Dbd became multiversus

Or Dbd made a mvs 2 Dbd spin off

[halcyon meadow]

mhm

what if your mom didn't cheat on your dad and they were still together

[thorny vale]

Then I guess they'd still be together

[halcyon meadow]

and maybe you would be normal in the head

[thorny vale]

Oh heavens no

[halcyon meadow]

uhuh...back to readin gangy

[thorny vale]

You read

Only reading I do is in the hit Dbd spin off mvs by WB

Iron giant has proved if a character is to big they will keep it that way and have a balancing nightmare

[unreal gyro]

Yknow i thinki get why Giga Bowser was never playable

[thorny vale]

The earlier games he was

For a few seconds though

[unreal gyro]

True actually

[thorny vale]

But the buffs he has now and stuff glad they changed his final smash

That would be annoying to face

[open girder]

fortnite spin off

[thorny vale]

my b the mvs game that is a spin off of fortnite and losely set in the dbd universe created by wb in association with sony and nintendo

[open girder]

nasb spin off

[dapper crown]

Shaggy running away and throwing the salt emoji, while winning is the most oxymoron(ic) thing.

[thorny vale]

Sorry what I meant was the nasb spin off of the mvs game that is a spin off of fortnite and losely set in the dbd universe created by wb in association with sony and nintendo

[twin bloom]

Anyone know if servers are having issues? Been in queue for minutes

[open girder]

maybe it s bugged

requeue and stop to make sure

[twin bloom]

I did a few times, changed queue types, restarted game, etc

[twin bloom]

You get into a game recently?

[open girder]

not home rn

[twin bloom]

Gotcha

[open girder]

350 players on steam

wadda hell

pfg gotta revive mvs

[maiden locust]

Harry Potter

[open girder]

fighter road free choice

[worthy girder]

maybe for next char they can add another one that nobody cares about

buff shaggy a bit more and nerf the third main in a row thet I pick

[open girder]

nubia addition be like

[dapper crown]

this

[open girder]

nerf jack since s2 too

[dapper crown]

if im grinding for a character I should choose WHO to unlock

[open girder]

indeed why did they choose goofy ahh brawl stars method

[dapper crown]

Frfr

[thorny vale]

bro got his feelings hurt so bad i got invited to a vc and a group chat and sent poop pics

[open girder]

i just hope next update when marceline releases they actually give us free choic

[open girder]

excuse me 💀

[thorny vale]

bro had a whole squad of people who like cartoons and anime a little to much

that was an experience

[thorny vale]

i can send screen shots

[open girder]

NO

[thorny vale]

just not of the gross stuff

[open girder]

okay yeah

[worthy girder]

the best part is that after LVL 45 BP i filled 30+ Bars of exp, and i played very few games compared to a month ago, and i got a TOTAL of 20 gleamium, the red currency half of the time and the other half of the time I Farmed 2000 exp to recive .... 100 exp lmao ahahah

now im going to log in, if taz can not fast fall in his tornado im going afk 2 more weeks

[open girder]

fighter road exp in infinite tier when u have all chars should be removed and gleamiuk buffed

[open girder]

he can i think, ve heard taz mains saying he s good now

[worthy girder]

i hope so

i have 10k unspent gleamium sitting in my account

[open girder]

dayum

[worthy girder]

because for some reason i had a ton of promotions in my store at launch with crazy % discounts on packs and i went in

[open girder]

black friday maybe

[hazy monolith]

new superman is unplayable just switch to agent smith

[maiden locust]

Is bugs bunny still good?

[blissful comet]

Good morning everypony

[cyan path]

you smell

[blissful comet]

Untrue, I shower

[cyan path]

sure

thats what they all say

[blissful comet]

🤔

[cyan path]

btw rainbow dash >

[blissful comet]

I disagree but that's okay

[cyan path]

nah

[warm walrus]

Anyone else's audio bugged? Half the sound effects just disappears sometimes in a match

[sinful gorge]

Is there a way to still parry without have to hit shield+down? Like a single button or is that removed

[open girder]

unsure but i think yea

[thorny vale]

some of my taunts be making people limbs get ripped off and they spaz and strectch

samurai jack and jasons paper taunt

[sharp moon]

Eh

[ocean lantern]

Dang this game is really dying huh? Only 300 on steam.. hope it's more on console

[hybrid vale]

After they added shields a bunch of people left

[worn ferry]

Chaos........SWISS ROLL!!!♠️🦔

[ivory gate]

No wonder, shields was a horrible idea and just destroy whatever identity this game used to have

Like bruh as if goddamn Finn needed more damn ways to just stand around waiting for you to attack him and then punish your whiffs

[hybrid vale]

I'm not that kind of finn player but yeah shields are horrible

[worn ferry]

I told yall this EXACT thing was gonna happen. I said shields were only gonna benefit top tier characters and everyone was like nooooo shields are great lmao

Maybe one day chat will listen to ol Myles

[hybrid vale]

I feel like pfg were planning to add shields regardless and just wanted us to give them advice to make them better so we don't complain later

[ocean lantern]

Damn it's really that bad? I thought it would be good for the spammers.

[hasty trellis]

Been playing marvel rivals, game get any patches?

Heard we got shields now or they're coming or something

[ivory gate]

Yeah they made up their mind on copying Smash and because Smash is more popular and didn't really care to ask if the shields was the reason Smash was popular or because of all the other things in this game that are trash like the monetization, unlocking of new characters for new players and lack of focus on making low tier fighters viable

[hybrid vale]

Look parrying is made worse, most players don't know how they work and almost all projectile and armour based characters are made worse, plus they dropped this without informing us

[worn ferry]

The MOMENT I saw a bunch of tourney top playing ppl say they LOVE shields I KNEW something was up. You NEVER trust the top ranked % players for game balance changes it ALWAYS ends badly. I played enough Overwatch to know that lmao

[ivory gate]

Yeah it's really just another way for campy players to be even more campy. The absolute opposite type of change I wanted for this game

[hybrid vale]

That's fair they just want to keep being on top

[hasty trellis]

Huh, so we do have shields

[hybrid vale]

Unfortunately

[hasty trellis]

In a dodge based game

[worn ferry]

Exactly they don't care if they ruin the game they're always gonna push for selfish bad changes

[hasty trellis]

Welp, time for Multiversus to die again

[ivory gate]

yeah, I dunno if I can keep playing this game. It just keeps getting worse with these things nobody asked for

[hybrid vale]

The only thing i like about shields is the new shield breaker move because it's useful for combos

[worn ferry]

What do you mean? The high ranked tourney playing ppl asked for this they know best right?

Jason w shields is great and good for the game obviously

[hasty trellis]

I'm getting worried

Multiversus is gonna get shut down

[hybrid vale]

Now projectile based characters like bugs and t&j are just not good anymore because projectiles don't affect shields

[worn ferry]

Not really shields only work if you hold still and they consume dodge meter quickly

[hasty trellis]

As a bugs bunny hater since day 1, I'm dancing fr

[hybrid vale]

Plus armour based characters like wonder woman or Steven lost their use in 2v2 because their gimmick for helping teammates is replaced by shields now

[worn ferry]

The only real use shields have is playing campy w top tier characters who already fish for jabs

[ocean lantern]

They have counter play for shields though right?

[hybrid vale]

It doesn't consume that quickly from wgat i saw

[ivory gate]

Yeah this game is beyond saving. It was already down in the dumps because of how hard is it for new players to unlock fighters and because of how scummy the monetization is especially with the new Elusives... but adding shields... lmao. This game is toast now.

[hasty trellis]

Should've did what marvel rivals did

All characters free with only skins purchasable

[worn ferry]

It consumes very quickly like 2 seconds in and half your meter is gone meaning the only optimal use it has is blocking like 1 attack and jabbing afterwards

[delicate shore]

how do you parry when your on ground?

[ivory gate]

Yeah, this would have made the game a lot more popular for new players to pick up.

[worn ferry]

Neutral dodge the moment the attack connects w you player

[delicate shore]

Shield will most def ruin multiveruss but its whatever, let other games learn from this dog game lol

[hasty trellis]

It's sad because Multiversus is the last DC game we'll get that isn't Batman centered

[hybrid vale]

Yeah if you activate it and deactivate it quickly it doesn't consume it very fast

[delicate shore]

Thanks

[hybrid vale]

That's changed with the update, now it is down dodge

[delicate shore]

oh okay i was wondering why parry wasnt working I thought i was miss timing it

Multiversus shouldve stayed like rivals 1 and rely on parry and di instead of wack shields

[quiet lintel]

Salchipapa

[hybrid vale]

The worst part is that they dropped this out of nowhere without a warning

[open girder]

not even that apparently a lot of top players also hate it

[hybrid vale]

Because even top players hate campers

[pliant sedge]

this update is great

[worn ferry]

All the multiversus youtubers who play in tournaments and are high ranked said they loved shields and couldn't wait to play Jason w shields

[pliant sedge]

i can approach because of the dodge meter buffs

and shield against spammers

[open girder]

i just see ppl being split though shields should have been added later

[hybrid vale]

A skilled player can take out a spammer before, it's Campers that have and will continue to be a problem

[worn ferry]

This....

The two things that are killing the game are campers and PFG constantly removing/nerfing anything remotely fun without adding compensation buffs

[quiet lintel]

Yes 😭😭

[quiet lintel]

4 real

[worn ferry]

Like when a bunch of characters lost their jab combos to auto techs that instantly made the game less fun ppl WANT their combos in a fighting game who tf is making these decisions dawg

[quiet lintel]

Right 💔

[open girder]

yeah and why did they not actually balance it, shields are fine ig but i dont want them now and i think the game would not need them

[hybrid vale]

You're absolutely right, that's why the only good part of this update for me is the shield breaker move, having instant access to most fighter's third side attack can be very useful

[quiet lintel]

They added those bc they thought that we wanted mvs to look more alike to SSB 😭😭😭

[open girder]

looks like it

shields are fun and all but still

[brisk shore]

why the shield on the neutral dodge why

[hybrid vale]

I honestly thought that enough people didn't like shields that pfg weren't gonna add them

[quiet lintel]

U.U I Preffer playing a game with its own identity, not copying another one at all

[brisk shore]

everyone is complaining about them here? lol

[open girder]

yeah

[quiet lintel]

EXACTLY?? 😭

[open girder]

same, that s why i never practiced them

[quiet lintel]

Yes, we are serving criticism

[hybrid vale]

Even besides shields the update yesterday was horrible, they completely screwed up training mode

[quiet lintel]

Me neither ugh

[open girder]

balance patch aside from some deserved nerfs sucked

[quiet lintel]

Training Mode didnt load to me yesterday

[open girder]

literally we waited 5 weeks for what

[hybrid vale]

I don't even play ppg but they got gutted

[brisk shore]

how can i joni i hate them so much with eveyr molecule atom quark of my body

[open girder]

they re not, they have tod

[hybrid vale]

Wait seriously??

[open girder]

just complain and maybe post on twitter

[worn ferry]

What's wrong w training mode. What they actually screwed up was Taz tornado they messed up one of his specials AGAIN. Ppl are just falling out of my tornado now do you know how bad that feels when your move is already on a lengthy cool down? Lol

[open girder]

yes

[hybrid vale]

Dude all the new options in training are fine but now every time you pause even if you don't change anything it reloads the map and it takes an eternity, you can't look at a player's moveset one move at a time anymore and test them before moving on to the next

[quiet lintel]

Just ✨express yourself✨ yes I think its the worst new feature too 🙄

[brisk shore]

ok thanks i will post next to my max beta badge to have more impact lolol as a long time fna

[brisk shore]

alright thanks

[gloomy rampart]

Does anyone know how to Fix a problem I'm currently Having?
It's uh... Kind about one of the Tom & Jerry Taunts

[hybrid vale]

What's the problem, if any limbs are not working properly then just wait for pfg to fix it

[gloomy rampart]

Well, Everytime I do the Shrug Taunt, It shows the Default taunt (Without jerry) for a second

IDK what to do

[hybrid vale]

Probably wait for pfg to fix it, yesterday's update was a disaster

[hybrid vale]

Hey man i just checked and that glitch isn't happening to me, maybe try reloading your game

[worn ferry]

Do yall make amvs of your favorite characters in your head or are you normal

[hybrid vale]

We all do that sometimes

[quiet lintel]

Ofc 😇

[worthy cipher]

How’s the update

[raven goblet]

Normal

[hybrid vale]

Meh, added some good things and ruined others

[worthy cipher]

so the usual disappointment?

[quiet lintel]

I do velma 3D edits on my head LOL

[reef quest]

I swear Velma is completely defenseless in 1v1s

[worthy cipher]

I keep humming “Change” while playing Steven Universe, does that count?

[hybrid vale]

If i wasn't lazy i would make those edits exist lol

[quiet lintel]

😭 Yeah 💔 my poor girl

[reef quest]

Why can’t her shout thingamajig insta lock on the enemy

[quiet lintel]

Those are very hard to do

[hybrid vale]

Fair enough

[worthy cipher]

I played a spamming Velma once, if you can find a way, you can cheese your way to victory

[quiet lintel]

Not easy to achieve

[worthy cipher]

or at least that’s how I see it

[reef quest]

Especially in 1v1s

[hybrid vale]

Velma is one of those mages i have no idea how to play so i respect anyone that has figured her out

[hollow moon]

Anyone know how to fix the battlepass' "reward claim failed!" bug?

[elder chasm]

People boycotting the game because of shields 👀

[elder chasm]

She easy af

Her projectiles op

[reef quest]

She is not easy, it took me awhile to even fully understand compared to Tom and Jerry despite her being a medium character

[elder chasm]

She easy once you figure out her strats

[hybrid vale]

I'm an assassin main, I don't understand most mages, the only ones i do are rick and raven

[reef quest]

I only main Velma and Tom and Jerry

[elder chasm]

Velma can be unpredictable

[reef quest]

Velma is really fun however it can be a bit hard to kill some characters at times she either feels really great or really bad at some areas

It really just depends on the map and characters

[hybrid vale]

For me most of her attacks don't land, like neutral attack, up attack, up special, air side special

[reef quest]

I usually kill most the ppl I fight against with Velma is her camera and her lightbulb, and if I’m lucky the van

[hybrid vale]

The van is a guaranteed ko but good luck getting it

[reef quest]

Yeah I highly recommend playing very jumpy if you really wanna get it, land a lot of side airs and up airs gettin some lightbulbs

[hybrid vale]

Lightbulbs are hard to hit, i always end up missing or they dodge and i get punished

[dapper crown]

Whats the most optimal way to avoid batmans slide jab

[dapper crown]

Uninstalling the game isnt an option

[open girder]

shield

[worn ferry]

Dair they ass

[hybrid vale]

I usually just dodge

And then counter jab

[reef quest]

Yeah I end up missin a lot of lightbulbs durin all my hits i just end up bein a back line support like a usual mage player

[dapper crown]

?

I ain't up to date with MVS slang ngl

[hybrid vale]

Dair stands for down air

I think, I'm not that up to date either

[raven echo]

shield good

yes yes

[fluid chasm]

pfg can never make a good patch

[raven echo]

but shield

[fluid chasm]

shields are alright just something I'll get used to quickly

[raven echo]

yesssss....

[fluid chasm]

they made ppg top 5 again this patch idk what pfg is trying to do with the character

[magic lodge]

I love how I can negate all damage by pressing shield for a split second making it nearly impossible to even hurt me since I just punish them and get my meter back

[unreal gyro]

Hardcore Fox is not quiting MVS today is truly a sad day

[pliant sedge]

@thick comet ur terrible

id smack u on my main

[unreal gyro]

People who witch hunt people they lost against on here are so pathetic it's hilarious

[fluid chasm]

bro leaked his government name

[grim yew]

Ikr

They also just reversed the nerfs Shaggy received last patch. Like, did yall just change your minds??? At least PPG plays different

[grim yew]

Dude don't advertise that fact lol

[unreal gyro]

Actual imbicile

"It's all just a prank guys!!" Okay but you leaked your full legal name you baffoon

[magic lodge]

Tbf it could be a fake name

[fluid chasm]

its not

[unreal gyro]

With how dumb he can be? HIGHLY doubt it.

[magic lodge]

How do you know

[unreal gyro]

Emperor your pfp is so pretty wtf

[fluid chasm]

real

[unreal gyro]

6 more days man...

[magic lodge]

Slayer is pretty irl we play games together right slayer

[fluid chasm]

I spent my gleam on a ppg skin :3

[fluid chasm]

yeah

[unreal gyro]

I need to save gleam for the passes but i'm buying the 30 dollar marcy bundle anyways so losing gleamium isn't an issue

[clear fossil]

I want a pfg original human Marcy variant

[fluid chasm]

I'll spend money on her this weekend

[open girder]

bundle?

[fluid chasm]

yes

[unreal gyro]

I'm glad i own the full roster it'll mean i can get any newcomer after Marceline after the ea period almost right away

[open girder]

same

[blissful perch]

Ey

[fluid chasm]

I wanted the emote I'll be honest

[open girder]

i want the banner and the skin

[unreal gyro]

People who do this are actual clowns fyi

[unreal gyro]

Is it like Marvin's and Gizmo's or is it a regular emote?

[fluid chasm]

not sure

[unreal gyro]

Praying i can Weezer people that'd be hilarious

[blissful perch]

Or just people who whine 24/7

[raven echo]

training changes are nice

[fluid chasm]

I want to play megalovania

[quiet lintel]

Right? Cause those are very awesome

[quiet lintel]

I think velma's best move to get into your opponent are the bubbles text projectils and the lantern

[fluid chasm]

I nearly in masters and I was drunk crazy

[thick comet]

No

[quiet lintel]

My 1s win rate is 39% si yes youre right

[thick comet]

I’m bmo

[quiet lintel]

Nice

[thick comet]

@pliant sedge not a Finn main btw just some practice

[pliant sedge]

oh nvm gg then

[reef quest]

Velma should just only stick with 2v2s it’s near impossible to get anything done by yourself

[thick comet]

You’ve played my bugs haven’t you?

[quiet lintel]

Yeah, we have a mixed combat with readed based combos of 3 hits LOL

[quiet lintel]

Its so hard to kill confirm 😭😭😭

[unreal gyro]

Banger

I started properly playing Velma last night and she's actually really fun ngl

[reef quest]

I just end up using my camera to try and kill em

[quiet lintel]

Yes 💔💔...

[south stump]

oh shields are in the game

[raven echo]

shields are bangers

[quiet lintel]

I always try to hehe

[fluid chasm]

I throwed my wine bottle in the garbage after I got cheesed by a raven

[reef quest]

I barely see any Velma players or tom and Jerry players which is pretty sad ngl

[unreal gyro]

I love playing Raven but rage state is genuinely so busted it's ridiculous, bro literally gets maxed out Lucario Aura at only 90%

[subtle plover]

Then kill her before she can do anything with it now you also have shields to punish her if she does something stupid

[raven echo]

the fact I 3 stocked someone twice because of shields

[fluid chasm]

real

[unreal gyro]

Shields aren't gonna help if 2 sairs still kill at 0ish %.

[sick ocean]

dont even think its that bad, we die early to other stuff as well, but ppl never care ig

[kind jolt]

so busted Ravens can basically give up on playing the game at 100 and just start running at you with sair

[worn ferry]

Shield jab broken huh who could've predicted that

[raven echo]

I don't even need sair anymore

[sick ocean]

shield

[fluid chasm]

shield breakers can be a kill move is crazy

[raven echo]

im playing raven who am I going to jab

[subtle plover]

Nothing new when it comes to this community its time players adapt and learn how to play around it :)

[worn ferry]

Raven jab 1 is hella good what do you mean

[unreal gyro]

Theyre what now

[sick ocean]

also like, rlly slow, thats the point

[sharp moon]

What button is your shield break

Mine is R3

[worn ferry]

Raven jab isn't slow its super easy to hit ppl w it

[subtle plover]

Its only good if players parry it because its a projectile

[worn ferry]

Steven's jab is slow

[fluid chasm]

one of my friends found a rick kill confirm with shield breaker

[sick ocean]

i-... im in the twilight zone... you telling me raven jab is like, fast or smth?

[sick ocean]

you can hv a dedicated button?

[grim yew]

Raven's jab is slow enough to have trouble punishing moves that anyone could easily 💀

[subtle plover]

I think you can have that now yeah

[worn ferry]

Are you telling me ppl struggle to jab w raven???

[sharp moon]

Why are we stuttering?

[quiet lintel]

She is ❤️ but its really unfair bc everyone else haves: doble/triple hits, fasters moveset, ranged attacks, actually viable kill confirms, useful habilities

[kind jolt]

@sick ocean which one of Harleys moves is the armor break?

[grim yew]

It's not bad, just kinda situational. The main problem really, is that inspite of being a projectile, it extends your hurtbox... so if you use it pre-emptively trying to space someone out, it might randomly not work

[raven echo]

its slow is what I mean

[quiet lintel]

As velma main, I have never jabbed a raven LMAOOO I hate so much zoneRavens

[clear fossil]

Ravens jab is just okay. But like, projectile sheild a beat out the first hit. Right?

[subtle plover]

Also agree with this

[sick ocean]

its her jab 4

i mean this as shield break, she can armor break with neutral attack if thats what u meant

[worn ferry]

I forgot yall play hard carry characters so when I say normal things like raven has a good jab the agenda Smith and samurai jack mains go huh???? Like can yall shut up and not play top tier characters for once 😭

[sick ocean]

do u mean 2s or smth?

[kind jolt]

doesnt that fing suck

[worn ferry]

I don't think it's gonna matter bruh her jab is fine like what are yall waffling about

[sick ocean]

ive played harley and arya since day 1 of beta, literally picked them up bc "oh harley, ik harley" and "arya teleport is cool" :/

[kind jolt]

I thought nair would be shield break too

[sick ocean]

its very slow is what im saying

[sick ocean]

glad it dont

[worn ferry]

Yeah those are top tier characters friend
Your game balance sense is skewed

[sick ocean]

its... something, not horrible tho

[subtle plover]

Its slow and risky to use but good with rock and if players try to parry it

[worn ferry]

It not slow lmao you just play busted characters

[sick ocean]

damn, whatever shall i do, i cant see a slow jab because ive played harley and arya 😔

[raven echo]

bruh relax lol

[grim yew]

???

Unless you're in 2s, you kinda need your opponent to walk into it. Most 1s players in ranked loooove to do nothing all match instead. Being slow is a huge weakness for dodge jabbing, whiff punishing, just most normal jab uses.

[sick ocean]

i dont think thats how it works but ok, so what like arya jab is light speed or smth?

[worn ferry]

You mean like mages make ppl do all the time???

[raven echo]

bro is mad just for people playing a fighter that is a higher tier, just relax. if your going to complain pick a higher tier fighter.

sheeeeesh

[worn ferry]

The entire point of mage is make opponent walk into you. Once again lack of game sense from relying on busted characters is not an argument

[sick ocean]

ikr, even if i was meta hopping, i can still tell what a good or bad jab is, how do u think i would meta hop if i didnt know what was good...

[sick ocean]

what????????????? huh???????????????? what do you even mean by this??????????

[worn ferry]

.

I'm done with this conversation

[sick ocean]

do you mean force approaches?

[stark jetty]

I have one agenda, reduce the prices of everything in the shop by like 60-75 percent through appealing bundles to make prices feel worth it for casual consumers and extreme benefit hard-core consumers for this game to extend the life of the game significantly

[glass basalt]

I see business is as usual in the Multiversus Server

[stark jetty]

It maybe crazy, but I want this game to live

[raven echo]

I don't even know anymore, myles is just tweakin

[raven echo]

same

[worn ferry]

Whiff real quick what is the point of a mage like how are they supposed to fight

[stark jetty]

It feels like common sense, if the current pricing isn't getting the profit they want, wouldn't lowering prices increase the sales?

[worn ferry]

By.......making......ppl.....approach them????? Why on earth do I have to spell this out like are yall still waking up or

[stark jetty]

Its a quirk power to make what he is saying impact more

[sick ocean]

You said walk into them, I assumed you were saying makes just kinda did random stuff and prayed @-@

[stark jetty]

Bruh deleted before I could reply smh

[sharp moon]

[stark jetty]

Coward! Stand by what you say

[sharp moon]

Watch your tone fool

[stark jetty]

No

I'm aggressive, but I'm direct with people

[worn ferry]

A little critical thinking goes a long way. walking into them and approaching them sound almost exactly the same. But yea Raven is a mage her playstyle heavily relies on making ppl approach her and chase her and then jabbing them when they over extend which works VERY WELL I've fought some top tier ravens and experienced it firsthand. Her jab is fine. =/

[kind jolt]

Being able to punish unpunishable attacks is nice

[stark jetty]

Parrying a projectile should put the characters who use them in stun

[raven echo]

what does this even mean

[sick ocean]

So, couldn't it be that maybe you just got jabbed too much? Or that even if you got jabbed her jab is still, you know, slow? And they predicted your positioning? Nothing?

[sick ocean]

Ok, woah there, maybe not that much you know

[stark jetty]

I mean rivals does it and it works

[worn ferry]

Once again you have to look at the jab being attached to her kit and her role as a mage. Her jab is very good for her kit and her role as a mage.

[sick ocean]

Not exactly like that, and by the same vein we could say smash doesn't do that but you know

[stark jetty]

Parry is new to smash as a whole

[sick ocean]

Yeah but, haven't you seen me say it's slow? That's all I'd been saying

[stark jetty]

They should add that too

[sick ocean]

Perfect shields have been in the game since melee, maybe even 64

Essentially following the same line of concept, they just got changed to parries in ultimate, and made more risky

[kind jolt]

Does superman have multiple shield breaks?

[worn ferry]

It already stuns, multihits 3 times, and elevates her opponent into other combos who cares if it isn't super fast that's still a really flippin good jab bruh

and then it's on a mage who are designed to make ppl walk into jabs

[subtle plover]

This i agree on it has pros and cons its a balanced jab something the rest of jabversus is lacking and i hope they fix in season 5

[sick ocean]

Yeah but like, it still has weaknesses, laggy, long animation, avoidable? I have no clue why you're acting as if this is the end all be all best jab ever

[grim yew]

People push passivity to its absolute limits, I'm just sayin'

[unreal gyro]

True, but when you land that one early kill combo it feels as rewarding winning 10 whole sets :3

[vivid salmon]

Yes

[void pecan]

I just played Ive been out of the game for a week and I honestly feel is sh*** unbalanced and didnt like shield at all... I dont see pfg caring to much about their fan base.... so I dont know if I should give it one last chance or finally move on to another game and stop wasting my time here.

[stark jetty]

Shields are good for the game overall lol.

The only issue is adding them fractured an already fractured fan base

[sleek heath]

i unlocked velma and suddenly gained a bunch of velma missions... how long has this been a thing?

[kind jolt]

GG 😢

[worn ferry]

Because you're claiming it's too slow and I'm explaining to you, you're just playing the MAGE character wrong. Make them walk into the jab w your kit designed for making them walk into the jab

[stark jetty]

Its sad honestly, no matter what the devs do or how hard they work, they never are just praised for putting as much effort as they do into things lol

[raven echo]

its crazy how much easier it is to fight rick

now that I can freakin block

[stark jetty]

Fighting projectile users was always crap, but with shields it's tolerable

[sleek heath]

seriously, i've never had an entire list for a character in the mission menu befor

[raven echo]

dam right

[sleek heath]

as a garnet main, i'm right there with you

[void pecan]

doesnt feel like they are doing a lot of effort, they do what they want without listening to the people that is actually playing their game..

[raven echo]

im not sitting here getting annoyed about it anymore, shields are so good.

[sick ocean]

That's not a great argument for a game that had Marvin listed as an assassin. The roles don't have the largest bearing over the overall playstyle, also, I'm not waiting for people to come towards me because I see no reason to

[sleek heath]

any advice on fighting raven, while i'm here?

she chains larger hurtboxes like crazy

[raven echo]

not sure what to say

[sick ocean]

Play before or after her, if she resolves to sair she generally outspeeds anyone in that department, just play around her jumping carefully

[raven echo]

yeah thats true

[stark jetty]

Seasons 1 WHERE IS RANKED, THE GAME IS SLOW, WE WANT SHIELDS

All of those criticms have been addressed

Season 2 ranked grind it's too hard and matchmaking in it is horrible

They have been actively addressing and adjusting ranked to make it a better experience and is a work in progress

They literally added shields because that was a heavy demand on relaunch

And now that people got it they are turning on the devs lol

[raven echo]

you prob wana catch her jump by throwing out an aerial a head of time to get like a jump read before she attacks

[stark jetty]

They have done surveys for arena and shields and if more people did them, then things would be different

[raven echo]

most ravens will delay nair

[unreal gyro]

I appreciate the characters, voice work and stages but that's where my praises end

[stark jetty]

Shields were also added to add more speed and offensive options to the game

[raven echo]

so if you just jump and aerial her its a free attack sometimes

[unreal gyro]

I appreciate the characters, voice work and stages but that's where my praises end

[sleek heath]

what's wrong with arena?

[raven echo]

I need 2 more diplomas and I get a free raven skin mwah ha ha

[junior flax]

I love JJASBR

[stark jetty]

Honestly i just don't like committing to one character for the entire time and playing through the entire thing took so long that the game usually crashed before making it to the end for a lot of people so it was a waste of time for some

[unreal gyro]

Game's unbalanced as hell and the devs refuse to listen

[junior flax]

play JoJos with me

[stark jetty]

Shields were added so they can rebalance characters lol

[unreal gyro]

Stop slapping Wonder Woman and Shaggy on the wrist

[uncut bough]

Shields 🤮

[raven echo]

no, just a minor amount are turning on the devs, that a small trying to seem big

[unreal gyro]

My friend has that game, looks rlly dope lol

[stark jetty]

Eh it's also a lot on twitter too, not just here

[raven echo]

I say back the devs up and tell em to ignore the complainers about shields

[sleek heath]

i'm curious if they're going to make shieldbreaker attacks hurt shields more

[sick ocean]

Have you tried them yet?

[junior flax]

it’s actually very well balanced

[sick ocean]

They go through them completely

[raven echo]

not suprised you got terrible influencers like hardcorefox making shields that are not a problem a problem

[foggy magnet]

whoever LocoAmigos is, your black adam is infuriating

[void pecan]

they added shields because the game is unbalanced so instead of fixing the game they add more staff that with time will unbalanced everything even more, and is one more thing to work on and test... instead of fixing the actual gameplay.... like they cant deal with all the things they allready had in their plate so the solution is adding more things that can go wrong?.
so Agree to disagree...

[raven echo]

tbh if they remove shields I might just quit, because I'm not dealing with this community being big man childs anymore.

[uncut bough]

yes I play the game, gameplay with shield is ugly

[raven echo]

we already got losers that are adults screaming at 13 yr olds

[stark jetty]

We get balancing changes every single update

[raven echo]

in my opinion kick hardcorefox out of the community

[unreal gyro]

Add grabs that'd fix every single issue fr just throw in new mechanics without balancing the game beforehand

[uncut bough]

I'm using the translator, I'm Brazilian, maybe the words are wrong

[lime ingot]

Shield breaks are a thing

[sick ocean]

So you want no shield gameplay?

[raven echo]

they rather whine then adapt my friend.

[stark jetty]

Shields weren't just thrown in either, they had weekly testing for them before they were fully implimented

[sick ocean]

I can speak Portuguese, just don't know where we could do that

[raven echo]

and if they remove shields they will complain anyways

so pfg should just let them whine

[uncut bough]

pv

[unreal gyro]

It's sarcasm

[unreal gyro]

They should've been implemented once general balancing complaints were dealt with.

[void pecan]

yep but people who doesnt like them didnt had a voice on the topic, they just keep on with that and here we are......

[raven echo]

I want the game to do good and shields are a step in the right direction. if they remove it. its proof the faulter to the bad player base too much, and I'd be better off not playing anymore.

[quiet lintel]

😭 It doesnt feel like that for me 💔 not with a 39% win rate HELP

[sick ocean]

You can

[stark jetty]

The surveys literally had an option to say people didn't want them in the game at all

[raven echo]

they had a poll

[sleek heath]

people who didn't like them WERE give the chance to say that

[stark jetty]

If more people did surveys then maybe it would have changed things

[uncut bough]

no, it's very ugly, it makes neutral ridiculous, just waiting for the other one to make a mistake and hit the shield

[unreal gyro]

Shields help but shaggy charged kick still does like 35% and kills below 80.

[sleek heath]

iwas on here asking how many ways you could acess the area poll

[raven echo]

people who are complaining about shields seem to just talk at this point. just ignore them like I said guys Its not worth it. just tell em shields are good and ignore them.

[quiet lintel]

🤢🤢🤢

[sick ocean]

I mean what constitutes a general balance complaint? Characters were good or bad, that's not general that's the balance itself, if they made a whole different balance cycle then added shields, the meta would completely change

[unreal gyro]

Wonder Woman has been complained about since season 1 and is still broken, where's her proper nerfs at.

[sick ocean]

That's because ranked players are bad, just don't shield as much, there is really no need

[raven echo]

atleast you can just block it because they are predictable. even though its crazy, however was does not kill at 40-60 percent in this game. thats what multiverse is all about.

[raven echo]

free dubs

[sick ocean]

She is by large measures good, but way worse with shields no matter how you look at it, it attacks some of her biggest strengths in aggression

[rare comet]

The fact that they buffed her this update 💀

[raven echo]

shes not as annoying as she used to be. but could use some more hitbox nerfs

[unreal gyro]

In the time that Finn got reworked, nerfed, nerfed again and reworked for the second time while Wonder Woman basically hasn't been changed in all that time.

[raven echo]

Im just going to enjoy the game while it feels really good and not care.

[unreal gyro]

She just shouldn't get armor on burnout, period.

[raven echo]

yall should join me

[raven echo]

I'm well aware of that but here we are.

[clear fossil]

Her and shaggy

[uncut bough]

I'm also talking about the gameplay of championships, at least here in Brazil they haven't put shields in tournaments yet, thank God

[void pecan]

Ignore us, remember that to play an online game you need players willing to play it... with your mindset ull have your shields but no people to play with... and only the characters that benefits with this and also have grabs will find a way to make the game way more unfair... so yeah enjoy your shields.. go play and stop reading 🙂

[plucky lance]

Shields are definitely the right move for the game they just need some tweaking. There needs to be better hit stun for hitting the shield and also some things still go through shields ex: Sticky bombs still stick, batarang still applies weakend and perks like the armor breaker still break the armor.

[sick ocean]

Have you played vs good players in shields yet? Because I have, and games can only be slow if one person wants them to be, and that would be the case unless the game was hyper aggressive

[raven echo]

most shield complainers are not playing it anyways so why do I care. also If they remove shields people are going to leave anyways, me included I really don't wana deal with a game controlled by a buncha man childs.

[void pecan]

but in theory shields came to fix unbalanced issues, and now we need to add a bunch of staff to make shields viable?

[sick ocean]

Just for that who do you play? Once I get good internet I'll start playing them in ranked

[clear fossil]

Also Finn’s jab is trash now

[raven echo]

I like the devs but if they listen to their community too much like they have been I don't wana be a part of it. its their show never has been mine, and if I lose interest thats on me not them.

[plucky lance]

There are definitely things that need to be rebalanced and fixed. Ihope its not to compensate for those things. They do help defend against some things until they are hopefully fixed though.

[void pecan]

just beacuse people has a different opinion than yours doesnt make them man childs.. or gives you the right to say that... I thin you are the only man child here xD

[raven echo]

If the community fails to see that it the direction its be going its just going to crash and burn

[sleek heath]

i will say that the ai might shield too often

there needs to be more of a consequence for broken shields, i think

[worthy violet]

how many days left until the season ends?

[unreal gyro]

"ez win button masher" dawg nobody cares stop calling out people who are just playing a game

[void pecan]

with shields I dont see the point for armored attacks and breaking armor attacks is like two different shields at the same time, also every character should have at least 1 grab on their set to be fair.

[raven echo]

I said they can do what they want. So if they cave in to the people complaining about shields being in the game, and cave in to removing it I will simply move on. like I said its their show, not mine. get your facts straight.

[plucky lance]

persnonally i think its fine. you have time to properly get a free combo or finisher off if you are playing right

[unreal gyro]

As a Finn main, no it literally isn't.

[sick ocean]

There are though, basically any fully charged attack

[plucky lance]

i have wondered if grabs are going to be coming too actually.

[sleek heath]

the point of armour attacks is to allow a trade of blows, if both attack at the same time, the one with armour will win.

[void pecan]

We are the show, they just build the stage for us to play.. without players theres no game

[kind jolt]

I very nearly died to Van pls remove that move

[plucky lance]

agreed

[raven echo]

No, its the devs game. its THEIR GAME, its not our show. you did'nt make the game.

if you give me a dumb reponse again I'm done here.

[sick ocean]

Shield breakers are just attacking grabs really

[raven echo]

I'm willing to listen to your opinions but come on.

[kind jolt]

They got me playing against grandmasters to get past diamond III

[sick ocean]

Could be masters 3

[kind jolt]

😤

[plucky lance]

I Feel that but alot of characters that have a grab can do it from the air and thats an option i think would be fair for the cast to have

[void pecan]

you just dont get it. when a game is freee is because you are the value of the game, and what makes the game interesting for investors is the amount of people playing it. SO AS I SAID BEFORE, agree to disagree

[raven echo]

Thats fine agree to disagree. However we are the audience playing the game. just remember that.

[sick ocean]

Yeah it would be dreadful I'm sorry, maybe superman should have a slower side special but don't make that universal

[raven echo]

atleast we can see where he aims side special before it comes out.

[plucky lance]

Is this sarcasm?

[void pecan]

we are not audience, we are players.. we play! we dont watch and listen. Im not saying we own the game... im telling you we are what makes the game worth of playing. and worthy of having an income to stay online..

[fallen scaffold]

do you guys know how shield work?

[random turret]

This news is shocking and proves that there is justice in the world........
https://youtu.be/7LJGG-gwvRg?si=R1ZK1DnLUDA6wo5V

[fallen scaffold]

i am pressing neutral dodge but my character isnt shielding

[drowsy hill]

You have to hold the button down to shield

[sick ocean]

No

[kind jolt]

Or maybe the guy with the most armor moves in the game doesnt also need the most shield breaks in the game

[open girder]

i am just worried about the playerbase and game s state tbh

[plucky lance]

I think netral dodge is made for parrying. Use regular dodge button to shield just hold it down.

[raven echo]

you gotta be kidding mee... this is like being in the audience watching someone do a presentation for powerpoint, then yelling "HEY!" going up on stage and saying "this is mine now."

[fallen scaffold]

i am holding it for several seconds. idk why it doesnt work. I am on controller if that is important

[plucky lance]

Oh, just wondering, the appology threw me off lol

[raven echo]

I'm giving you a friendly block and were going to leave it as agree to disagree. this is going nowhere.

[void pecan]

Agree to disagree, bye talk to someone else

[fallen scaffold]

i am so confused i am pressing it for several seconds and my character just dodges

[open girder]

if u re on training mode, enable shields

[fallen scaffold]

OMG

THATS SO FUNNY

[open girder]

what

[kind jolt]

Dont know why it starts auto disabled tbh

[fallen scaffold]

Ok thx guys

[plucky lance]

Yeah, its weird they are on by default online now but you have to turn it on in training

[dawn current]

When did they updated the game and adedd shields?? havent played in a while...

[fallen scaffold]

you knew i was in training mode and it was disabled for some reason

[open girder]

yesterday

[open girder]

oh ya

[fallen scaffold]

THX again guys

[sick ocean]

He's still fine surprisingly, especially since he probably loses really bad to shields

[open girder]

@kind jolt u sure shields were a good idea i notice so many ppl quitting

[plucky lance]

Training mode just needs visuals for hit boxes and hit stun duration and invincibility duration and ill be happy.

[kind jolt]

Some characters get nerfed a little then I only play bad supermans and now I dont know if superman isnt as good or I havent run into the best supermans

[void pecan]

its fragmented so no one will be happy, they are adding to many elements at the same time they are adding more characters, and balancing everything.. is just to much.. I hope im wrong.. but I already see the difference in this last months with the time that takes to find a match to play.. to me it translates as less player base

[kind jolt]

Playercount looks about the same to me, its probably better if the game can survive with shields because it just means the least competitive players are leaving 🤷‍♂️

[open girder]

500 steam users

[plucky lance]

just yesterday

[clear fossil]

Trash might be too much. But it just has so much whiff lag

[fluid chasm]

right now we got 545 players (steam)

[open girder]

i see

[kind jolt]

The game has casual gamemodes anyways, and if you reject it thats kind of your own fault. PFG said since the start they wanted a competitive game they just failed so far

[sick ocean]

He's not good, but he can win

[blissful comet]

Based on how long they are taking to bring Texas tnj, what are the odds that skin is an elusive one?

I mean, Doctor Harley took long too and was elusive on the Halloween event, maybe they could do an event that Texas tnj fit

[raven echo]

does not accont for console players and the avg peak during the day is 4k, for steam users

game is doing fine.

[kind jolt]

if hes bad he still has gimmicks

[open girder]

jt went down to 1k

i am only worried cuz i love shields

[kind jolt]

The real test is when Marceline drops, nobody cares about the game to join for patch notes

[raven echo]

1k is still good

that game is going to be around for awhile

[kind jolt]

Its well into the danger zone

[open girder]

i ll take ur words, thx brothers

[sick ocean]

Yeah that's him rn

[kind jolt]

Back to S2 superman ig

[sick ocean]

Yeah I feel you, but I'm starting to feel like people don't necessarily hate shields but hate how multiversus gameplay can be

[raven echo]

the game is going to last 2years tops, and even if its crashes I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts. there are new games that come out games are not suppose playerd forever give other games a chance. Meele had no reason to last as long as it did, but people liked it so whatever. valorant has no reason to have such a high player count but whatever people like it. the few people that still like this game will continue to enjoy it while it lasts and go on with their lifes.

[void pecan]

I dont see it that way, I feel like is beyond that.. there is people that wants to play what they sold them in the first place and enjoy, I understand how you feel but is not about winning or loosing is about the expierence of gameplay no everyone wants to relearn every time their character and also the whole playstyle.. is easier to migrate to another game and thats whats happening...
it would happen the same thing If shields where placed since launch and now taken away

[uncut ember]

If the game was faster as a whole it would help, but shields feel great right now

[raven echo]

Its not like I want the game to die. but the game is in a decent spot still too give it a year or 2 and I'll enjoy while its around.

but constantly being negative saying I want this I want that, just anit worth it anymore.

just going to kill the game faster

[sharp moon]

I've been hearing people say Smith is good for what reason

[kind jolt]

In my opinion if this game makes it to the 1 year anniversery then It'll live and probably gain quite a bit of traction

[uncut ember]

Easy mf loop

[raven echo]

we will see, I hope it does better. I really like what they are currently doing with shields. I'm proud of the changes, their are still some wacky dumb hitboxes like jasons nair. but I'm just gona leave it up to them.

[worn ferry]

He literally the best character in the game atm

[kind jolt]

Shields dont change characters playstyles if they werent being braindead, it just adds a deeper layer to the game, like fast falling and short hops did.

[raven echo]

I'll talk about fighters if people wana talk about them but I'm not going to ask for nerfs or anything.

[urban cape]

I think shields make the Game even more campy and pasive but whatever, its what people wanted

[kind jolt]

The good news is last season they started to panick and thats why so many new mechanics are coming in like every single patch, as long as the big IPs keep getting added they should be able to scrape by until the games okay

[fluid chasm]

don't jinx it

[raven echo]

Yeah, I can see it but people have been campy anyways, I like it because it gives both sides an option to camp better and approach better.

[raven echo]

you right

[uncut ember]

Huge disagree, I've fought one camper and being able to shield made it 100x easier

[raven echo]

yeee, lets look foward to updates and hope Ig

[sick ocean]

Honestly there are still issues, and the shields feel like a rushed addition, but in many ways, I still like them

[raven echo]

it goes both ways. but you're allowed to your opinion.

[kind jolt]

The whole point of camping is sitting back and using your long range options to beat the other person, so for a lot of the cast camping simply becomes much more difficult

[uncut ember]

Absolutely

[grim yew]

Jake mains in shambles for having to use more than one attack rn

[kind jolt]

wonder what they'll hotfix next week

[urban cape]

It needs to be around, otherwise what would the dead Game people do. They would lose purpose and wander aimlessly or even worse, start playing LoL.

[raven echo]

It feels so much easier to beat rick..... like holy I can block his giant jab and punish him for mashing for once.

[uncut ember]

Because he's back in bottom 3 actually

[kind jolt]

we can hope

[uncut ember]

Nair 2 existed because Jake has bad killpower, so they nerfed his killing move

[lime ingot]

Nair 2 is the entire character

[grim yew]

I feel like Marvin, Nubia, Jack and Giant are all worse. That's still bottom 5, it's not a huge difference lol. But it was a busted-ass move that needed fixing

[raven echo]

I'm glad I can talk about the game I like in a positive matter again. I was sick with pneumonia for 6 days and stuck in bed, being able to play the game again feels good.

[lime ingot]

Jack, Nubia and Giant are definitely not worse than Jake

[uncut ember]

Exactly, now it's another bad move making Jake have only had moves

[raven echo]

almost done with my finals for this semester too, so I get to vibe for a month.

[lime ingot]

Better than have him be S tier for a single move.

They'll get to him later, this just had to happen until then

[grim yew]

Dude, I feel ya. Got really sick and couldn't get off my bed for 2 weeks or so earlier in this month. Suuuuuuucks

[sick ocean]

Dunno tbh, but won't fix long term issues yet

[raven echo]

mannnn... 🤝

[fluid chasm]

no marvin buff crazy

[grim yew]

They'll just ping-pong the Shaggy d-tilt changes every week

[uncut ember]

Yeah but it sucks it has been 8 months of this game being out and he's still horrible

[sharp moon]

Time to abuse him in 2s

[urban cape]

At least hes not Velma

[uncut ember]

Nah all of those except maybe IG are better, much easier characters to do well with

[grim yew]

Yeah dude, I'm happy for ya lol

[sharp moon]

I came back to the game and see trash Shaggy users rely on that kick of his

[sharp moon]

I haven't seen a single IG in rank

[uncut ember]

Worse than Velma, she at least has combos now

[raven echo]

same too you glad your not stuck in bed ether. lmao

[uncut ember]

That's why I said IG is worse

[grim yew]

:D

[sharp moon]

BUFF IG

[uncut ember]

*rework ig

[grim yew]

...Velma actually looks like she got some decent changes this time around. Kinda wanna pick her back up again

[raven echo]

my brother loves her, said shes alot of fun to play now.

[uncut ember]

Velma has kill confirms at 40 on di now she's super good and fun

[grim yew]

Noice. Season 3 ranked climb was a struggle, I wasn't really enjoying myself at all lol

[raven echo]

I feel that, it was a pain for me too

[urban cape]

Shes fun but I hate she has a lot of moves that are useless

[kind jolt]

Ranked is never fun for me ever

[grim yew]

Kill confirms at 40? Is it just jab 1, 2, book, book, up-air or something new? Tell me more 👀

[kind jolt]

Camera seems like a really good shield break

[uncut ember]

Air side special into air side special or smth like that

[raven echo]

I get what you mean but you don't want her too nuts, otherwise you going to attract the crowd that whines about broken characters. trust me I hated it, people still give me bs for playing raven and smith and I just came back today.

[uncut ember]

Into up air up air

[grim yew]

No way that's true 🤔

[sharp moon]

Like the name?

[raven echo]

people that were my friends get mad at me for no reason in this discord now just for playing smith/raven its wack

[stark jetty]

I agree

[uncut ember]

That's the fun part, go lab

[urban cape]

Just change the flask or outright remove It. And have clues give grey hp or something so its worth picking Up in 2.

[raven echo]

lmao give her a new move like batman Ig

[stark jetty]

The only thing I like about ranked is the stage selection compared to casual que because I hate the moving dexter stage, the gremlin stage, and the mojo hazard ppg stage

[raven echo]

I'm not going to ask for nothing tho but whatever

[grim yew]

Camera is kinda weird. The hitbox is mostly on her body rather than where the visual would indicate(?) It has trouble reaching down, but hits UP super often. Kinda slow too. At least it's pretty safe and a serious threat your opponent has to respect, but it just doesn't work how you'd expect. Extends the hurtbox on her foot too. I've seen a very perplexing amount of up-tilts just kinda win against camera at ranges that make no sense.

[sick ocean]

My thoughts exactly

[grim yew]

It's a good tool, I just don't know about shield application

[sick ocean]

I've only ever grinded for the skins

[kind jolt]

yep

[raven echo]

you would climb high, people are bad. not to be rude but uhhh.... yeah.

[grim yew]

They did give flask a hitbox now. You can use it as a combo starter and use air-walker for a pretty decent option that knocks down and can potentially set up a d-air confirm. It's not GREAT, but it's not useless anymore, even if niche

[raven echo]

but I understand not wanting to climb ranked, I'm getting burned out on ranked for games in general, gona play and just not care.

maybe I can enjoy that way who knows

[stark jetty]

Marcy is a bruiser

[grim yew]

Dude, last season, it was a contender for worst move in the game. It literally only came out on accident and made you vulnerable for a million years without a hitbox to cover yourself. She had a move so bad, it wasn't just useless, but actively detrimental

[kind jolt]

They should remove Mystery Machine because gimmick moves are bad moves

[raven echo]

and a rhythm character which catches my interest.

from what I seen atleast

[sleek heath]

gimmick moves keep characters interesting, i feel. this game, so far, has been a great experimenter

[kind jolt]

I bet it was the worst move in the game

[raven echo]

atleast from what they showed I think

[untold iron]

New patch.. what they do now lol

[raven echo]

shields

[kind jolt]

shields and better training mode

[raven echo]

it feels good, just takes some time to practice

[sleek heath]

also, possibly character specific bonus missions

i'm not sure how old that is

[grim yew]

I'd be surprised if it wasn't. Maybe when Bugs had a tunnel bug that just KO'd him for free, but that wasn't intentional and it got fixed. Velma was an intended mechanic that was just GARBAGE lol

[raven echo]

yee training feels prettty good its just weird for me because I'm not use to it

[kind jolt]

It feels good in 1s but I still dont use it in 2s because I dont know what shield breaks and it isnt an instant pullout

[urban cape]

How does air walker even work, I tried It and she always hovered a little over the platform, then dissapears.

[sleek heath]

....to be clear i mean an etire sub menu for a specific character based missions

[sleek heath]

i'm also a bit unsure on this

[grim yew]

Air walker takes some getting used to. The main idea is that you can create a platform and immediately use one or a few grounded normals at any place in the stage.

Say you want a quick option to catch your opponent and lead into a basic conversion... you do airwalker, jab into up-air, and you get a confirm with extra damage, often higher knockback, and you get that while closer to the top blastzone.

Say you're playing Velma... you can edgeguard an enemy below you with a calculator (chargeable move btw) and follow up with something else. I haven't tested the potion yet, but the hitbox might stay active as a projectile until it hits the ground... but the ground goes away after you use the move, so it's just a projectile going straight down into your opponent, like a mini bugs safe.

Again with Velma, she can only use Van in the ground. If you use airwalker, you can make your own ground and summon Van from an elevated platform on your off-stage recovery.

That's a few uses anyway. Most people use it for combos on Rick and Arya, cause they lead to INSANE conversions with them

Hopefully that gives you an idea(?)

[urban cape]

I get all that, my point is that she never does, she hovers over the platform for a second, then dissapears, I have never been able to pull a ground move one on it

[raven echo]

blocking a mashing banana guard feels so good

nobody blocks its hilarious

[raven echo]

just gona take some time to get use too

[sharp moon]

[unreal tulip]

🍟➡️🎒

[sharp moon]

Thanks for putting them in the bag for me UNC next time though make sure they are warm

[rain tapir]

[unreal tulip]

is it time?

[fluid chasm]

nah

[unreal tulip]

nobody asked your opinion

[stark jetty]

☃️

[solemn swan]

They need to add a space marine to this game

[rain tapir]

i refuse to touch the game

[unreal tulip]

you couldn't anyway, unless they make a physical release like LimitedRunGames or something

[tulip bluff]

they should add a teenage girl with brown hair who has yellow clothing and make the character just have terrible framedata

[raven echo]

because shields I had a wonderwoman running from me

man, shields really change things up

[unreal tulip]

well, they got something similar, she isn't teenaged and has a spear, not sure about frames

[rain tapir]

[tulip bluff]

Along with the girl, they should also add a pretty skinny dude, green shirt and just make him super saiyan though it would be better if he was his actual character

[tulip bluff]

oh my gosh shut up nerd!!!

[raven echo]

Shields ❤️

[tulip bluff]

need lucid to kill you, my money haver duo

[rain tapir]

WE GOT MONEY

[raven echo]

I can just block all of my problems

[tulip bluff]

I FEEL DUTCH VANDERLINE WITH ALL THIS MONEYYYY

[unreal tulip]

Lucid would never hurt me, not even my feelings

[rain tapir]

[fluid chasm]

pfg put the fries in the bag

[raven echo]

shields are soo goooooodd that fact I made a banana guard and a wonderwoman think twice about attacking is such a w

no mashing for you, you have to think now.

I'm so happi

[unreal tulip]

shields still throw me off because I can't issue a shield break with the right analog stick, I always play with that so I should press R1, but I forget and stay there still like an idiot

[raven echo]

I only go for shield breaks if I notice them spaming shield

other wise I just don't even think about it

I cant wait for good players too empty hop bait a shield

fast fall and input shield break, that right there is big brain.

we anit there yet, and its going to be awhile before thats a thing. everyone still don't even block.

[unreal tulip]

why are you correcting it wrong? : )

[stark jetty]

I'm hoping the player count increases after marciline releases and we get the next rift

[raven echo]

sorry wrinkles smoothed out.

[raven echo]

we gotta play some 2s sometime with shields

[unreal tulip]

like now?

[raven echo]

wellll maybe

leme tidy up a lil bit, I got class in a couple hours

[unreal tulip]

let me visit the 🚽 first

[stark jetty]

I have to make sure all my gems are topped off

[torpid barn]

It should increase for a little bit. Then we will have to see if the people who pick up the game stick with it though

[stark jetty]

I really want to get the free Jason skin at the end of the season

[unreal tulip]

mine are probably not going to be, I missed 100 exp of anubis and I don't want to pay 100 gleam for that

[stark jetty]

Shields doubled the playerbase yesterday, but it's already back to just over 500

[tulip bluff]

gonna skip this patch ngl, just waiting for marcy drop to see if she is fun or not, if she is then i will play the game a little more but if shes lame, dropping the game till s5

[stark jetty]

I just complete all rifts and pray

[unreal tulip]

Can't get lamer than mid S3, if you played then you can play later : )

[torpid barn]

It went down that quickly?

[stark jetty]

Would you play for a jack banner?

[stark jetty]

Currently 546 on steam at least

[tulip bluff]

i would

[torpid barn]

Rip

[unreal tulip]

Would you play for a... scooby snax?

[stark jetty]

Well i have good news for you

[tulip bluff]

any jack cosmetic really lol, samurai jack is genuinely one of the best shows ive ever watched

[stark jetty]

We probably are getting a jack banner lol

[tulip bluff]

no worries dude, ik but still

[stark jetty]

I mean i know jack cosmetics are coming, I just don't know when

[tulip bluff]

this game just has been lame and i think this mid season gotta be the worst patch for me, its very underwhelming due to no character drop but atleast shields but i dont care for them much.

[stark jetty]

Also we will probably get some cool stuff for Christmas

[tulip bluff]

no worries bro, if you wanna tell me really bad just go to dms xd

Regardless the game is just very lame right now for me

[raven echo]

it time

[tulip bluff]

need marcy now lol

[granite saddle]

did they change parry's? wtf is this

[raven echo]

you have to time a downward dodge to parry.

its just different.

[granite saddle]

downward dodge?

[worn ferry]

Anyone wanna play arena w me?

[raven echo]

hold block and press down

[cyan obsidian]

I don’t think it’s mid season yet

[granite saddle]

that's crap. why change the mechanic

[raven echo]

because they added shields

[fallen pecan]

that was the midseason patch this Tuesday

[raven echo]

and it feels goood, just going to take time for people to get used tooo

[tulip bluff]

it is mid season, its update 4.5, it just doesnt feel like mid season due to no character drop. This update was very underwhelming with no character drop.

[raven echo]

its funny watching people quit when I block everything. tbh they prob rage quit before so who cares.

[tulip bluff]

next update will be content update, this was just balancing for the most part

[stark jetty]

This was the mid season patch and has all content in it as well

[cyan obsidian]

1.4.3? Don’t see any mention of it being THE mid season update, that’s when marceline would drop

[raven echo]

@unreal tulip butt

[stark jetty]

Including the rifts which should be visible in game

[tulip bluff]

i remember them mentioning it was 4.5 lol

[stark jetty]

Ajax specifically said it was 4.5

[tulip bluff]

yeah so it is mid season, just no character drop

[stark jetty]

The character is ready to go though

[granite saddle]

as a controller player, my left trigger does literally nothing, could have made the shield that button and not touched dodge/parry

[raven echo]

idk about that but I anit sayin shhhhhhhieiteiteitetietei

[tulip bluff]

True

[raven echo]

As a controller player myself. you can change the keys.

[cyan obsidian]

Yeah I don’t really trust Ajax anyway lol but either way

[sharp moon]

where does it say shield for the controls I need to change stuff

[stark jetty]

They likely did the update early to add shields due to declining player numbers

[granite saddle]

does it make parry back to the way it was?

[raven echo]

yes you can bind a button to neutral dodge

[stark jetty]

Considering this season is 2 weeks longer than normal, it's probably going to hurt the game over overall with consistent player numbers

[raven echo]

and have a seperate button to shield

[kind jolt]

This update wasn't meant to attract players it was meant to fix shields or anything stupidly broken before Marceline comes out so when there are players its a better game

[zenith holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191301308775399537/1289837889483706491/1270011855405846670.gif

[raven echo]

CAT

[cyan obsidian]

Well you guys were just straight up wrong, last patch wasn’t 4.5

[stark jetty]

Also this is pure speculation, I'm completely convinced that daffy is coming next season

[cyan obsidian]

4.5 is the next update, there’s a showcase video on the Reddit

[raven echo]

weird cat, but its still a cat Ig

[cyan obsidian]

Yall were just confused

[raven echo]

whos counting anyways

[fallen pecan]

i dont see a showcase ?

[raven echo]

🤨

[kind jolt]

"Patch 4.5 is here!!"
-Ajax

[cyan obsidian]

It’s a pinned post on Reddit that says “UPCOMING 4.5 showcase” so @tulip bluff Was confused

[stark jetty]

Patch 4.5 is here!!
Some additional notes to go alongside these announcements

With the official addition of Shields we have also been able to start adjusting greater offense to the game

• Dodge Boosted Attacks now cost 1 bar
• Shield Breaker as a bindable input and can be used in burnout with this input

We are also looking at new ways to increase offense further in upcoming patches due to shields addition such as hitpause reductions and other methods being discussed.

Training now lets you create new situations for the bot to replicate so you can now test things further and more specific scenarios.

And my personal favorite, Custom Games now let you play all the unique mutators you would see in Wacky Weekends.

Hope you enjoy Season 4.5 and get ready for Marceline soon!! #MultiVersus

[kind jolt]

^

[stark jetty]

This was literally Ajax tweet post patch

[kind jolt]

Dont cope and expect for balance changes or anything expect the expected

[cyan obsidian]

Ajax was wrong (per usual) idk what yall want

I’m going off of official multiversus channels

[stark jetty]

I'm saying I am not confused about anything, this was what was said directly from a dev

[cyan obsidian]

Trusting Ajax was your first mistake 😭😭😭

[stark jetty]

Dev says this is mid season patch

"OK but they are not correct"

[raven echo]

good point I should bind shield break

[fallen pecan]

that post is just the showcase for the stuff that was already added, like shields and the lab improvements

[raven echo]

I'm binding shield break to b

[fallen pecan]

watch the video

[raven echo]

the handsome ajax.

[tulip bluff]

this already is update 4.5, marcy, maps and the second bp content came along this update, they are just releasing next week

[raven echo]

COUGH my fault

[kind jolt]

The only thing missing is a stage and a few random gamemodes nobody cares about

[cyan obsidian]

He’s a looker I’ll give him that

[raven echo]

ayyy

[stark jetty]

They could have a minor update for marcilines release, but the majority of mid season stuff with yesterday

[kind jolt]

^

[tulip bluff]

theres a reason why ajax is the one talking in the into the verse

[kind jolt]

Nakat fix your mic

[raven echo]

🗿

[tulip bluff]

nakat looks like the most nicest dude ever

[raven echo]

he doo, but when he play game he become gamer, but when he talk normal he becomes generic person.

[cyan obsidian]

My beef with the guy not withstanding, Nakat is an objective 9/10 and should do all the streams maybe even shirtless

[stark jetty]

You have to pay extra for that, shirtless nakat is an elusive skin, that will be 30 dollars plus tax

[cyan obsidian]

Instructions unclear I bought a marvel rivals skin

[sick ocean]

[hot yoke]

Still havent fixed dodging

[lime ingot]

People still think this wasn't the mid-season patch?

[cyan obsidian]

Keep up

[lime ingot]

Just about every official source telling people this is 4.5, the mid-season patch, but people just wanna lie or sum?

[sick ocean]

This point I'm just hoping marceline also comes in with a patch

[atomic flicker]

the game is fun now with shields omg

[lime ingot]

Hot fix at most, I can see 1 or 2 more characters being addressed, but this is it

[cyan obsidian]

Me when I auto lock magneto

[oblique anvil]

Lack of shields wasn't why this game wasn't fun but okay.

[elder chasm]

Can we try the candy kingdom map ?

[sick ocean]

😔

[tulip bluff]

into the freakyverse

[elder chasm]

Also Marceline looks super cool

[sick ocean]

Now I understand why your name fits you

[tulip bluff]

Best EU jack always having based messages am i right

oh your calling me strange, so rude

[sick ocean]

[stark jetty]

Next update i could actually see some bigger changes in characters

They literally made it clear they wanted to make characters have more offensive options after adding shields

I expect a taste of it in the last update of the season

And then a lot of changes for season 5

[dim copper]

Raven mains convincing themselves they’re good while sitting back throwing rocks, Lenore , and whatever that orb thing is at you

[stark jetty]

I heard jack feels a lot better with shields

[kind jolt]

please remove auto teching that will make me more agressive pls

[iron silo]

Auto teching was made specifically for balancing, they probably don't have any plans to remove it anytime soon or ever

[sick ocean]

They give harley an infinite if they remove it, I don't need more reasons for people to call me carried

[lime ingot]

They give half the roster an infinite

[tulip bluff]

he does but the game is still boring regardless

I will only play mvs nowadays just for tournaments

[sick ocean]

Yep, ground bounces suck

[iron silo]

How's the "move made to prevent infinites" giving people infinites?

[kind jolt]

Well ofc you would remove ground bounce on a bunch of moves when it gets removed

[unreal tulip]

I returned, had to do other stuff

[kind jolt]

The only reason theres so much ground bouncing is auto teching

[iron silo]

Ohh you meant like removing auto tech would give them infinites. Mb

[lone trench]

They gonna release Marceline with bugfixes and call it a day

[sick ocean]

You could kinda just end up uprooting an entire character

[sick ocean]

😔

[kind jolt]

Like other characters that need ground bounces?

[iron silo]

What is your problem with auto-teching?

Did it eat your lunch? Did the auto-tech eat your lunch?

[kind jolt]

I mean you dont have to remove all ground bounces just the ones added specifically for auto techs sake

[lone trench]

Apperently they broke ppg. The number 1 ppg says she has a bunch of Tod now

[sick ocean]

Just characters that use those for combos a lot

[unreal tulip]

I dunno, I'm not forgetting the Ino incident. The Ino-cident

[fallen pecan]

how do you remove ground bounce from a d-air

[sick ocean]

I mean, makes sense, nair combos again :/

[iron silo]

We don't talk about the ino-cident

[kind jolt]

Its a no skill mechanic, its unintuitive, it creates really braindead tech chase situations where you can get really bad combo extensions off of nothing

[sick ocean]

Your sair ground bounces, that's what we mean

[lone trench]

All of them nair changes it’s so weird to revert

[iron silo]

How's "move left or right" a unintuitive mechanic.

[sick ocean]

Kinda makes sense but also no

[unreal tulip]

but you gotta agree I gave it a catchy name : )

[iron silo]

You did give it a very good name

[fallen pecan]

i thought we were talking generally about removing auto tech

[tulip bluff]

oh yeah that was stupid

[sick ocean]

No, removing the need for it, by which we mean the overreliance of ground bounces for character combo game and whatnot

[lone trench]

I genuinely think ppg was in a good spot before the buffs. She just needed relearning

[kind jolt]

Because auto teching is inconsistent, especially with the clutter in 2s, and its totally unnecessary as a unique mechanic in this game when other games have tech chasing that is significantly less braindead

It also takes away different combo routes

[stark jetty]

They now have new 0td

YIPPIE

[lone trench]

A lot of them I heard

[iron silo]

The game would need to completely mess with the ground bounce mechanic to justify not having auto-tech, and PFG is infamous for overcorrecting or just not actually fixing the problem or accidentally making it worse.

[stark jetty]

Every step forward with this game, there are two steps back

[iron silo]

They genuinely just need to actually include character balancing with the Marceline addition

[lone trench]

Im happy I made masters before this patch. PFG can’t do anything right

[kind jolt]

What problem did Auto teching solve

[dark widget]

um, does aryas thingy that attaches to players just... not work lmfao, i cant respawn

[lime ingot]

Infinites

[unreal tulip]

@raven echo butt

[kind jolt]

Yep all it is, is literally a bandaid mechanic.

[lime ingot]

Remember the Lebron incident...

[elfin basin]

made tech loops

[kind jolt]

Which is the biggest issue its braindead

[dusk matrix]

Any of you play Marvel Rivals? I heard it's better than this game

[elder chasm]

Shields slow the game down a lot

[kind jolt]

Auto tech reads are signfiicantly easier than normal tech chase reads

[iron silo]

And it's working, isn't it? You can't ripoff the band-aid without the wound being healed

[limber onyx]

I don’t like shooters

[elfin basin]

“but but.. you have to guess where they are gonna go”

[raven echo]

butt

sorry was getting a dub

[dusk matrix]

Dub me

[dark widget]

moslty cause yk theyre gonna happen

[unreal tulip]

"Doppiami"
This is you in the Italian dub

[dusk matrix]

I'll let you dub me

[raven echo]

commere

leme get some B-dubbs

[dusk matrix]

Mangiame

Per favore

[lone trench]

IG Nair - dair loop #clips message before s4 there was no way to get out of this because tech distance was to small and nair covers the entire area

[kind jolt]

Its causing more problems, if they want to patch infinites they can do hotfixes like they did with PPG and Smith and anyone else in the most recent updates

[oblique anvil]

Sure it can. Especially if you don't put the baindaid over the wound in the first place.

[lone trench]

All you could do was tech away and firm it…

[untold iron]

Random thought- The fact that I have hundreds of hours and matches in this game and have only gotten a single "gg" says a lot about the playerbase.

[iron silo]

Yes but what problems. What terrible, awful problem is auto tech bringing? The predictable mechanic can be predicted?

[elder chasm]

This game wasn't built with shields I'm mind

[raven echo]

all my homies love shields

[oblique anvil]

Toxic af playerbase, and it's the dev's fault.

[iron silo]

We usually show good faith through toasts

[lone trench]

Yea it is, but the teammates you get are sooo bad