general

[umbral oyster]

Maybe 2 ringouts get you an extra life

[sweet gorge]

does every tnj main play this game like its that one moon knight meme or something

[umbral oyster]

I can't figure out Tom and Jerry for the life of me

[bold brook]

Tom & Jerry were always meant to be a pure zoner but they have a solid melee game and even had a infinite before it was patched

[vernal seal]

Can we all ban together and agree that iron giant is the dumbest and more skillless character in the whole game…

Legit the dumbest character ever😭😭

[sweet gorge]

shaggy gets that spot

just lost to a shaggy spamming side special never tell me there is a character that takes less skill

[twin lark]

https://x.com/unr3leasedmusic/status/1864155227491872835?s=46

[kind jolt]

Getting ready to jump off the sinking ship

[unreal pumice]

Anyone wanna run mythic Vista crushing super fast? I'll join you

[high parcel]

Can we all tweet for Elon to buy MVS

[sweet gorge]

half of this games roster is unfun to fight against holy crap

[analog stirrup]

Multi (WB logo) Versus

Elon Musk : Multi (EM) Versus

[high parcel]

You mean 95%

[high parcel]

That'd be hella based

[umbral oyster]

Renames it to M and sues players for not buying cosmetics

[warm holly]

i love getting lebrons that do no dmg and get 0 kills both games

[vernal seal]

Good idea

[warm holly]

can we find a way to actually ban throwers this is so cringe

[vernal seal]

That would never happen with me 😈😈 lebron my goat

[warm holly]

452 dmg 3 kills he cant even do 100 dmg or get 1 kill

[bold brook]

did the LeBron at least try to do ball passes or something?

[dry stump]

What happened to arena mode

[warm holly]

no he js baited me and let me get 2v1ed the entire game did 137 dmg 0 kills this time W

[umbral oyster]

Did it go away?

[dry stump]

Yeah it's not in the menu anymore

[warm holly]

he's also somehow diam2 hes utterly terrible

[bold brook]

ah so he's just as usless as a Wonder Woman who never gives armor

[warm holly]

yes exactly.

[umbral oyster]

I gotta check this that's horrible

Woah it's gone

Why would they do this I loved arena

[worthy turret]

so harley and super are just the new no effort required to win characters huh

[warm holly]

@burnt sequoia why .-.

[warm holly]

its always been like that since beta

[umbral oyster]

Why did they remove arena

[bold brook]

might as well make MVS into Injustice 3 if DC is always meta and gets the most love

[worthy turret]

cause it was bad

[warm holly]

probs cus it wasnt fun and no1 played it

[warm holly]

it was just a test! kinda

[celest herald]

In game chat when

[umbral oyster]

I barely got to play it

[dry stump]

I always found matches in arena they could of at least announced something

[warm holly]

theyd never dedicate the budget to a game chat, y do that when they can pocket that money 🤣

[worthy turret]

just gonna lose on purpose if i gotta fight either now they ae not worth the effort

[umbral oyster]

I enjoyed it when I did but I only got a few arena games in that's so sad

[warm holly]

def is worth the effort if u see ur tm8 can pull his weight, feels so good

[celest herald]

They just need an in game text chat

[worthy turret]

i dont wanna talk to salty try hards

[glossy breach]

try hard

[worthy turret]

nah i give up, they are just a free win whoever picks them

[warm holly]

is it me or this games been so laggy too

[coarse yew]

Am I the only one who doesnt like ravens design

[warm holly]

its debatable

[celest herald]

Yes

[warm holly]

yea

[bold brook]

Raven is a hybrid of some of her designs, not just OG Teen Titans

[vernal seal]

One trick LeBrons have to be to goofiest thing I’ve ever seen in my life they jab jab dodge up and down attack legit only it’s so stupid 😭😭😭

[warm holly]

😭 you show me how to play him then

[celest herald]

I got the joker skin btw

[bold brook]

I wonder how raven would be treated if they stuck with her TTG desgin instead of what we got

[celest herald]

Then someone would comment “am I the only one who likes ravens design”

[warm holly]

its better when they do all that, then get shoved down in davies locker by 1 up tilt from finn or jake

[worthy turret]

how many times gotta lose before i get dumb bots, im tired of fighting cheap supermans

[warm holly]

wht rank r u

[glossy breach]

I'm the goat of ffa

[vernal seal]

Look at #clips I post a lot of my clips

[warm holly]

yay you!! ⭐️ ✨ is it everything u dreamed of?

[umbral oyster]

matchmaking failed 🥰

[worthy turret]

no rank i cant beat anybody

[umbral oyster]

is there some way to make matchmaking fail less or do I just have to keep trying

[celest herald]

Yeah its pretty nice. It would be even better if the balloon skin stayed on the entire time though

[stark jetty]

What is your current losing streak?

[junior flax]

Reset, check graphics card maybe, get better net. Could also just be unlucky and running into laggy mfs

[umbral oyster]

what does graphics card have to do with matchmaking??

[warm holly]

alrrr 👀 u a lil saucy widdiittt

[worthy turret]

24?

25

[stark jetty]

Hmm then I have to lose 26 times in a row so I can be the worst

[warm holly]

u lucky u got a balloon skin, velma has literally nothing extra on here besides her lobby animation 😭

[worthy turret]

whatever

[celest herald]

I also don’t know why the skin doesn’t have a sound effect whenever you select it. Like he bounces on the pogo but it’s completely silent lol

[vernal seal]

Yall not talking when lebron has nothing above a uncommon skin

[warm holly]

No did u hear the part where i complained about my thing? ur supposed to feel bad

[stark jetty]

What character has the least amount of skins in the game?

[umbral oyster]

I feel like it is weird that matchmaking depends on any of these

[stark jetty]

I'm assuming nubia or beetle juice

[glossy breach]

probably beetlejuice

[austere tree]

This crazy I got banned from match making for 8 mins from a disconnect that I had no control over

[warm holly]

smith i believe

[celest herald]

I didn’t know you played Velma

[junior flax]

also turn off cross platform and try to match into people from your continent if possible

[bold brook]

Beetlejuice only got 3 skins when he's released along with Nubia (not including base skins for both)

[warm holly]

Yea she’s my second most played in beta

[umbral oyster]

Wouldnt limiting it make it harder to connect?

why do you using so many line breaks

[celest herald]

Are you still playing raven? Who is your main?

[bold brook]

it's also concerning that Velma almost has more skins than Reindog himself... you know, PFG's OC?

[warm holly]

ye raven c: 👌

[junior flax]

might take longer but connections should be stronger when you find games

[celest herald]

Are you in masters yet?

[warm holly]

HAHAHAAHAHAHA no.

[umbral oyster]

im not finding games its failing matchmaking

[vernal seal]

Going against Arya wish me luck -_- she has air walker on

[umbral oyster]

I havent experienced a laggy game it just has trouble finding opponents

[celest herald]

What rank are you 🤔

[warm holly]

Reinhardt

[umbral oyster]

i dont even know how to limit what continent it matches me with

[celest herald]

Oh yeah you just play 1s

[warm holly]

bronze 😝🫶🙌🤘👏

[junior flax]

then turn on cross platform

[warm holly]

oh i lied i just got to silver mb

[celest herald]

You should be well above bronze 😬

[flat breach]

[warm holly]

i love u too 🙄

[warm holly]

Ello grizzly

[umbral oyster]

whats the best to do for fighter road xp

[warm holly]

The best thing to do is play the game instead of yap on the survur

[warm holly]

WHIP WHIP LASH

[flat breach]

your comment gave me flashbacks

[celest herald]

You should be playing 2s

[umbral oyster]

Ive been trying to but I keep getting Matchmaking Failed

[warm holly]

to what

[warm holly]

oh, ☹️ rifts don’t count for them?

[flat breach]

to a game I used to play where this dude named reinhardt would destroy everybody

[umbral oyster]

I didnt try rifts

why would I play a multiplayer game by myself

[warm holly]

How do u not get more frustrated in that mode

[warm holly]

well it’s not like we have options here ratatouille

[celest herald]

A good win rate helps with that

[warm holly]

don’t make me squeeze ur esophagus

[warm holly]

Is the game overwatch or

[celest herald]

I’ll be masters soon 👀

[warm holly]

so carry me what are u doing

[celest herald]

Okay, let me get joker in masters and then I can run Jason with you

[bold brook]

it technically has character roles like a hero shooter and this game could work as a hero shooter if PFG and WB are desperate for money

[warm holly]

i’m kidding i’m not a pathetic child 🗿 jeez have some respect for me

[vernal seal]

Arya, iron giant, and shaggy should be removed from the game in all

[celest herald]

But the raven skin

[warm holly]

inch resting

[warm holly]

I am more than capable of reaching there myself 😔 why don’t u think so

[celest herald]

What’s your highest rank

[warm holly]

masters 🗿

[warm holly]

I DIDNT EVEN PLAY THAT BAD AGAINST YOU I JUST DIDNT WANNA PLAY A 5 MINUTE GAME PLAYING FOOTSIES

[celest herald]

💀 let me play Jason with you in 2s

[vernal seal]

This game is such a strain on my mental 😭

[warm holly]

nah u got me all the way messed up 😭

[celest herald]

We’d climb quickly

[warm holly]

IDONTNEEDHELP 🗣️

[celest herald]

Mhmm

[vernal seal]

i wish I enjoyed 2s 😭

[silent nimbus]

start gambling

[warm holly]

I will be expecting a formal apology once i SLAP the Masters screen on ur face 🗿

[vernal seal]

[celest herald]

Okay I’ll be waiting

[celest herald]

2s is fun

[silent nimbus]

gambling more fun

loan sharks are your friends

[celest herald]

Bet the house

[vernal seal]

Is there anyway I can block every single Arya owner on this game 😀😀😀 such a dumb character

[low plume]

just faced a dimaond 4 stripe that genuinely ran away the entire game like i have never seen anything of this level before

[flat breach]

fire emblem

[grave umbra]

It's concerning how many people in ranked 1s play like this

I've played a lot of matches where the opponent will just camp in the corner of the stage

[vernal seal]

Who’s the <@&882349260409032746>

[grave umbra]

And on stages like Dexter's it's near impossible to deal with

[hollow cradle]

They should just remove 1s from the game tbh

[grave umbra]

1s are fine, people just choose to play degen in them

[umbral oyster]

is bugs good?

[grave umbra]

Yes

[umbral oyster]

ok so im just really bad lol

[thorn blade]

@flat breach Hey if you're online, what would you say are the best perks for Superman?

[flat breach]

5%, snowball, collateral damage, pugilist

[thorn blade]

THX! I've been cooking and making ppl ragequit with Superman today lol

[languid plaza]

Azi… YOU PKAY SHPERMAN NOW

[vernal seal]

I wish the gremlins map made any sense what so ever in the preview for the map it was so much bigger now we get rungout at 40 bc the small map

[low plume]

honestly gets better in gms

just beat the rank 2 we were both equally aggressive maybe me a little more

[flat breach]

so you've decided to join the kryptonian allegiance

[vernal seal]

0 respect for Superman players 😦 my hate goes to Superman, Harley, Arya and IG

[flat breach]

ouchie

[vernal seal]

sorry but… you know my reasons.

[fallen coyote]

Superman has too much armor, but I love that in a Tank, but I hate Superman 😭

[warm holly]

dead chat?

[flat breach]

going against a superman is mostly a knowledge check, similar to taz

once you know how the bells and whistles work, fighting him becomes much easier

[umbral oyster]

shaggy is so much knockback 😭 i was so close to beating them

bugs makes the most annoying noise when he loses

[west sky]

Give batman's dtilt whiff a little endlag pls n ty

[thorn blade]

Yep I absolutely hate fighting Raven. Just lost to one who spam sair

Superman is strong but Raven is smth else

[west sky]

Raven is the fighter I hate the least to fight but when all they do is nair>follow-up it's torture

What else can they do tho

[flat breach]

I don't like playing passive but sometimes you gotta in these situations, just as a tip, aerial up special and aerial side special both one shot the Lenor (the raven partner)

[west sky]

A lot of fighters is just matchup knowledge like Lenor and Jerry counters

Pret sure any armor break 1 hits lenor too

Jerry is weird asf tho, still no idea how his hp works

[thorn blade]

Gotcha thx

[spice laurel]

Yeah I’d rather fight Raven ngl

[vernal seal]

Who wouldn’t, is she hard to fight for most? LeBron seems to counter

[surreal mortar]

[worthy turret]

real cheap people playing today

[flat breach]

for real, they gotta give him some sort of HP meter or make it consistent, armor breaks don't one shot, I gotta guess if hes gonna die from the hit or not

[vernal seal]

Is there no such thing as region based match making? Bro there must be less than 3k people playing this game right now

[austere tree]

Dang Raven is the queen of disjointed hit boxes isn’t she 😂😂😂😂😂

[vernal seal]

Seriously… I just got the god of lag playing Batman spamming jab jab Batarang

[west sky]

Yeah like 1 fully charged normal 1 shots jerry but two armor break moves don't, extremely weird

Jerry's either glass or a tank, no in between

[austere tree]

NERF RAVENS SIDE AIR

NERF JAKES AIR NEUTRAL

[worthy turret]

i think i found someone using a bot or autoclicker or soemthing, even the npc bots dont play like that

this games just dumb today, all challenges and events done, im a forget this spammy trash for a week

[austere tree]

Jake players are really getting carried by his neutral air and air up special lol

[west sky]

Both moves are fine, you can space Raven's sair in neutral for a decent whiff window to punish and Jake's nair is broken but if you respect it you shouldn't get hit as often
Imo there's bigger stuff to address first

[west sky]

PFG is trying to make up for Jason's joke of a jointed kit

[austere tree]

I don’t believe the way they are doing it is exactly helpful when it’s only applying to one character

[west sky]

Lol

[austere tree]

A little easier said than done when playing with a big body character cause her sair is really fast and since she can fly it allows her to pretty much read and catch you no matter what you do and yeah Jake’s Nair is majorly broken with as much as I see it being spam more times than I can count. Just played against a Jake and Jason team and the Jake player was only doing those 2 moves for 95% of the match and crazy part is that Jake’s moves take high priority cause his up special breaks armor. For what reason the devs allowed that is beyond me. It makes Jake pretty hard to approach

[west sky]

Yeah even in a 2s tournament setting a Jake was just spamming nair and somehow getting ringouts left and right
For raven you can alternatively dodge through and punish but just like spacing it won't be consistent and works situationally

Get used to the matchup and you'll see the patterns

[warm holly]

Playing with a Velma

[austere tree]

So apparently buggs can spam trap you on the side of the stage with nair smh

[warm holly]

I’m not used to her actually being a useful partner honeslty

[thorn blade]

Just got Superman from Bronze 3 to Silver 3

[raven goblet]

I’m feeling myself so much right now

[warm holly]

I love playing Superman

Though everyone says he sucks

[thorn blade]

Fr he's fun

[warm holly]

I will admit I don’t find frost breath useful at all

I feel like i get punished for using it

[thorn blade]

Yeah I only use it to take care of projectiles.

[flat breach]

Not the first place I'd think of to let out your kinks but hey if you're into that stuff I don't judge

[raven goblet]

Lol I meant because I made a master Garnet quit

But now I’m mad at this Jason

[flat breach]

Oh nice, with whom were you using?

[flat breach]

is it wolf avenger?

[raven goblet]

Velma 😭 I’m still trying to lock in

[raven goblet]

No it was one of YoshiGalaxy friends

[flat breach]

whos that

that reminds me, what happened to Ino? I haven't seen them for a while

[analog stirrup]

after i saw x twits about mvs recently
i think they need to tune down the hit pause from all chars to make the game faster in general
take Finn as an example and also from Nakat and Ajax clips about their match with shield that looks so fast

[sharp moon]

Dead chat

[wraith geyser]

Hewwo everypony nwn! 💞 💞 💞

[warm holly]

Hallo

Wie geht's?

[wraith geyser]

What happened with Arena =0?

I can't find the mode =ccccc

[dry stump]

@wraith geyser I think the experiment stage for it is over hopefully they add arena in permanently

[twin bloom]

Guessing this trash game is on its last legs? Only facing masters now while in Silver lmaooo

[raven goblet]

Exactly

Taz needs to be buried

[analog dock]

_<

[high parcel]

I have no idea why they'd go and remove arena it's not like it was super broken or whatever

It was perfectly playable

[raven goblet]

It was experimental lol

[fossil flicker]

Black Adam has the best projectiles in the game CMV

[fossil flicker]

Bro getting stomped lmao

[high parcel]

You could say that about Multiversus itself

[unreal tulip]

That's what those scientists said about me when I was born in that lab

[old imp]

Bro pulled a Mewtwo💀

[unreal tulip]

Sometimes I forget not everyone can crawl up walls, change color and spit poison

I'm currently stacking infinity tiers without claiming them.
But I don't think Marceline pass will coexist with the actual pass.

Meaning I'll waste a bunch of levels on... 100 bp xp

[high parcel]

Why don't you stack deez instead

[raven goblet]

True

I feel like I should gain a small amount of RP for going against grandmasters since I’m obviously not winning but I’m making them sweat

[wraith geyser]

I hope Taz sandwich gets nerfed next patch. He has became so annoyning with the short-hop pwp

[flat breach]

"Gone, reduced to atoms"

[flat breach]

wdym

[wraith geyser]

It will be back soon pwp? It is my favorite mode 🥺 💔

[open girder]

how

that must be a super high winrate

[flat breach]

they took it offline to make some adjustments I imagine, they left a survey here to give feedback, if you want to #announcements message

[knotty niche]

do yall actually play this game😭

[drowsy hill]

It mostly crashed for me

[high parcel]

Aaah to be in plat and earn 30 rp per win

Instead of being in gm and getting 2 pity rp

[elder chasm]

Guys should I get an elusive ?

[wraith geyser]

I will write a long feedback to help the mode be better. Thankies for telling me 🤗 💗

[wraith geyser]

If you are main or really like one of em, go ahead =3! Choose whatever you want to.

[elder chasm]

Which has the most value
In terms of changes and stuff
I hear that the laughing death has the most value

[raven goblet]

They’re not in here anymore for some reason

Arena is better than ranked

[wraith geyser]

The laughing death is indeed the one who changes most stuff. Some of the elusive variants doesn't have 3 new animations.

[drowsy hill]

Im just gonna grab the Raven skin and dip

No

[raven goblet]

Def no

[drowsy hill]

No they aint

[raven goblet]

Yea that’s the only elusive I’d go for

[raven goblet]

Let’s ignore it seems like bait

[drowsy hill]

Yea fair enough

Then whos the bad player then....

[wraith geyser]

I theorized The laughing death was the only variant developed to be elusive =0 Halloween elusives were better, honestly.

[unreal gyro]

Besides laughing death the elusives are ABYSMAL

[drowsy hill]

Sure buddy.

[raven goblet]

Nah only 1 good Halloween elusive

[raven goblet]

Agree Excluding ranked

Hers should have been better

[elder chasm]

Yup

[wraith geyser]

I mean. The three had new unique voice-lines, unlike the ones in this event who doesn't have new voice-lines and some of them don't have the 3 unique animations (lose, win and lobby) usually legendary variants has pwp

[kind jolt]

They're just event skins

They're elusive because after the events you'll never see them again

[raven goblet]

Batman was only decent one last time but this time I’d say Joker Taz and WW are probably the best

[elder chasm]

Wonder woman doesn't even have a unique stance

[raven goblet]

Yep

Idk I still haven’t gotten anything lol

Maintenance

[kind jolt]

Arena would be a good place to test new perks

[high parcel]

Man people in lower ranks give up too easily

[wraith geyser]

She looks like an epic or rare variant

[high parcel]

Every other match my teammate kills himself or refuses the rematch after losing just one

[solar field]

Can't stand that c**t nubia

[lime ingot]

MV Batman's just as good

[lime ingot]

No, considering you can level them up, get them at random and are coupled with a ton of other wacky perks.

[solar field]

Yeah like why even play ranked in that case just play casual really just wasting my time

[kind jolt]

You can just make a subset within the gamemode

[lone trench]

She’s balanced

[elder chasm]

Way to balanced
Her side air so slow

[solar field]

Not in 2s she's a problem in 2s.... her recovery is too fast

She spams insanely probably the worst stammering the current season 4

🧢

[lone trench]

In 2s she’s mediocre other characters can do it way better

[solar field]

Her hitboxes are too wide and range is bs

[kind jolt]

No in the right comp its unfair and not mediocre

[solar field]

They say she's slow but that's not what it looks like when you play against her in 2s she literally has no chill

[kind jolt]

She basically can control the whole stage with her range and speed if her teammate plays a character who can either stuns or hold off the other team

[solar field]

Yes sir exactly my point

[lone trench]

All you need to do is land above the Nubia and keep attacking her

[kind jolt]

In 1s

[lone trench]

As long as you know Nubia’s blind spots there shouldn’t be a problem

[kind jolt]

Unless someone could help them guard that

[lone trench]

In 2s aswell

[midnight stratus]

im really bad and need somone that can teach me my username is Snoopy69snap

[solar field]

When you go above her she literally just starts spearing upwards and because of her recovery you have very little gap to hit the bi**h

[lone trench]

Spear doesn’t hit above

[solar field]

What do you mean that long range can get you in all kinds of ways and that spear she has way too much power to just spam it upwards

No move decay

[high parcel]

She's easily top 10 in 2s

[solar field]

My point

[kind jolt]

A lot of characters have this issue its a problem with the game mechanics not Nubia specifically

[lone trench]

I mean go directly above her. I have had no problem doing that, maybe cause I main her that’s why I know where she can hit and stuff

[solar field]

Nubia is one of the main ones

[solar field]

So you're biased haha next

[lone trench]

No I know the matchup

[kind jolt]

When I play Harley I feel pretty defenseless against it

[solar field]

Jason literally has no significant range he has to time all his attacks while she can just recover so fast

[kind jolt]

No good down air, light weight, same speed, bad air dodge, etc

[solar field]

Even when I play shaggy she's a problem

[lone trench]

1s: play passive and whiff punish
2s: attack blind spots and punish neutral special
That’s literally it

[kind jolt]

I feel like a better dodge system would help

The worst part about 2s is like the extendo pole you have to rely on your teammate being good enough to not ruin it for the both of you

If one gets hit you'll be sucked in like Jack side special

[solar field]

Her hitbox is still bs even when you try that she'll somehow just get you and you can't just easily break her combos as they're multi hit with one button and especially if you play jason but even with fast characters like shaggy

[solar field]

Yeah the dodge doesn't work good for some reason this season

[kind jolt]

Shaggy should be pretty good against Nubia still

[unreal tulip]

I can't believe I didn't think about deez

[kind jolt]

Shaggy has such good neutral

He can also stall in air well

[solar field]

Alot of times I'm above nubia when she's doing the long range spear and nowhere near her being able to hit me with it then somehow her broken range literally still allows her to get me with the spear above her head

[elder chasm]

Which skin y'all chose from the event

[kind jolt]

The Raven one

[lone trench]

All of her hitboxes are accurate and easy to avoid, Except sidespecial.

And Di diagonally down(away) on her air sidespecial ↙️↘️ the follow up will be harder on the second hit

[elder chasm]

Im getting the joker one

It's the most unique

[lone trench]

Nair another multi hit literally drops majority of the time too

[kind jolt]

Which combo is it where you get down aired and flung up

that one really hurts

[lone trench]

Top 10 if you don’t know MU Knowledge. I always target Nubia in 2s, most of the players don’t even know how to play her

[unreal tulip]

I just had a Velma do 33 damage against a raven and then SDing 4 times... my typical random teammate ; )

[kind jolt]

I have seen almost no PPG's this season in 2s

I count at least 17 characters I'd rather play less than Nubia

probably undercounting

[lone trench]

Yea she requires a much different playstyle to the rest. You get punished for everything

[kind jolt]

I dont even have time to complain about Nubia because theres too many other people

[solar field]

Yeah exactly

She punishes easily her recovery needs a nerf

Just like jack

[lone trench]

No she gets punished for everything*

Literally just target her in twos and you will see what I mean, definitely not top 10

[worn ferry]

OK so does Taz but with a much a much shorter range. Do you want a cookie or something

[zenith agate]

Taz whiff being compared to nubias are you being fr rn

[solar field]

Nah I just have to teleport like crazy to hit the bi**h haha but ok I'll keep that in mind

[worn ferry]

Are you stupid. I said range. RANGE. Use your braincells to consider what I meant about getting punished and range on top of that his nado has literally the worst whiff in the game lmao

[solar field]

Unfortunately I have more success in ranked with random than duos but it's a gamble

[lone trench]

You comparing taz with Nubia ok

[zenith agate]

"So does taz" implying it's just as easy to punish taz as it is to punish nubia, also no he does not lol, ur nair has like -2 frames of whiff and ur nado doesn't have as much whiff as u think+it can be wall cancelled unlike other moves with high whiff

[lone trench]

Fr that nair can’t even be punished. If i had an combo approach option that couldn’t be punished then would can Nubia high A trust me

[worn ferry]

You can't cancel tornado at all ur dumb stop talking to me

[dreamy zodiac]

🏀

[zenith agate]

U can hug a wall and it cancels the whiff of nado lol, even better with dogpile

[dreamy zodiac]

i knock taz out of both nado and dogpile with basketballs

[lone trench]

Nubia has double the endlag taz has I would be happy if we had any of y’all’s move. Except uptilt and upair

[zenith agate]

Even without cancelling it does not have the highest whiff in the game at all lol

[lone trench]

^

[supple panther]

I finally hit gold with raven in ranked Im done with this game til the mid season patch 😭

[worn ferry]

Nubia does not have a slow spinning move w start up that's uncancelable hope that helps

[dreamy zodiac]

What about Wackys?

[supple panther]

Nah

[dreamy zodiac]

😭

[lone trench]

I would love to have taz nado lmao

[supple panther]

I don’t have anything else to do I finished the event, rift battle pass and I just wanted to get to gold in ranked for the skin

[lone trench]

And even so that’s just one move, you are crying about one move.
Look at our neutral attack frame data and the move is ass

[worn ferry]

Idk how to explain to you that being stuck spinning for like 3 seconds because you missed is called whiff and that you're dumb af for saying that lmao

[supple panther]

What are we talking about…

[zenith agate]

Its not whiff if u have an active hitbox lol

[vivid salmon]

An activate hitbox that looses or trades with every move in the game

[worn ferry]

It's whiff because you cannot perform another action what is bro WAFFLING about???

[dreamy zodiac]

I get that. I wish we could pick what character gets the skin. Id like a Lebron skin or Superman skin lol

[lone trench]

Even so it’s just one move. Comparing taz to Nubia is crazy

[vivid salmon]

Tornado also has lots of whiff it get an extra 10 frames of it last patch

[zenith agate]

Toast dont defend this guy he's saying taz whiff is on par with nubias

[zenith agate]

Ur animation locked, not whiff

[vivid salmon]

I mean Nubia definitely has more whiff yeah

[zenith agate]

Nado does have a lot whiff, but his 0 whiff nair more than makes up for that lol, im sure any nubia would jump with joy to have that

[vivid salmon]

But tornado does have quite a lot of whiff

[lone trench]

The moment taz nado hitbox leaves and he can perform a move is like the average Nubia whiff ngl

[worn ferry]

I said it's easier to punish taz than nubia because it is she has a long ass Spear and taz has to get infront of super man punches to do dmg ( not literally just an example so don't take the example literally and say something dumb)

[unreal tulip]

I had to survive to 203 as Betelgeuse while my Bugs Bunny mate dies 4 times

[supple panther]

Fr too bad the only character who gets it is the character that gets added at the start of the season

[zenith agate]

Yeah that's where i leave

[rancid jackal]

All the fortnite players saying that it’s nice that dc is collabing with fortnite since multiversus is a failure

[lime ingot]

Non-downplayer Taz player here:

Nado is fine strictly speaking in terms of power. Free Kill on a read at about 90 dmg, but no fastfall makes it strictly useful on a read.

[worn ferry]

No....

[lime ingot]

The whiff is decent considering you can just back out in the middle of the move if it's not looking good.

[vivid salmon]

Nado is not fine if you fight anyone competent they can get a free parry

Maybe it works against plat players

[junior flax]

best attribute is the very weird hitbox

[supple panther]

Are y’all talking about tazs tornado move

[lime ingot]

Please read the message you're replying to where I state twice that it's useful on a read.

[rancid jackal]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone parry a taz tornado

[supple panther]

You can parry it?

[lone trench]

Yea

[vivid salmon]

It being useful on a read Does not make it fine, it still sucks

[worn ferry]

Yeah pros parry it easy. I've been parried like 5 times

[supple panther]

Every taz I ever fought just spammed it till they won 😭

[open girder]

season sucks either way

[vivid salmon]

Anyone taz spamming nado is throwing

[unreal tulip]

I'm annoyed because I had pulled 2 good combo kills on both Jack and BA, but my mate just had to die 3 times while I survive one entire life to 203

[junior flax]

Or you can just jump it or use a platform

[lone trench]

Nubia dtilt is only useful of reads and I would say it’s a pretty good move

[worn ferry]

Basically

[open girder]

true

[rancid jackal]

Just bc you have to read with a move doesn’t make it bad

[lone trench]

Yea

[open girder]

jack's entire existence

[vivid salmon]

Yeah but Nubia never relied on her down tilt bro, taz depending so much on his nado before its nerfs, now nair has to do everything for him

[sick ocean]

Generally does, it means the standalone move can't do enough to support itself

[supple panther]

I just can’t stand the players who run to the corners the whole game waiting for a punish 😭

[worn ferry]

Exactly

[rancid jackal]

No, it just means that there is counterplay and moves can’t just be abused without smart play

[lime ingot]

It's like saying Betelgeuse Bomb is bad because you need to make a read to land it.

[worn ferry]

In a game where you can literally abuse tons of moves without smart play, yes, yes it is

[junior flax]

let’s also remember that taz is a 2s character

[sick ocean]

Not really no, there are many moves you don't need a read for with counterplay

[lone trench]

Nubia dtilt/downspecial. One of the best moves in her kit and most punishable

[sick ocean]

I have legitimately never been hit by that move without directly trading with bj

[rancid jackal]

Y’all want moves to be unavoidable and unreactable is what it sounds like

[sick ocean]

I have no clue what that is

[sick ocean]

No, but God knows that a move doesn't have to not combo for it to be fair, that's just asking for nerfs at this point because a character can do things

[worn ferry]

One that's a zoning tool it doesn't matter if you miss w it or not 2 you can short spam it for stun hits 3 it is still kinda bad without its perk there's much better zoning projectiles ie bugs

[solar field]

No I just don't want my moves to go right through characters when they're not even dodging and balanced hitboxes or nothing and speed as well

[elder chasm]

Ppg are so bad this season it's sad

[lone trench]

Dtilt- puts a spear down and lightning comes of the ground
Downspecial- idk she does like a blast and a yellow circle forms around her

[elder chasm]

Down attack 30 damage plus armor
Perfect way to punish

[sick ocean]

Oh, yeah I don't think they're good at all really, ig the reflecting part of down special is nice

[rancid jackal]

Those are her worst moves lmao

[lone trench]

Yea it’s an insanely good move but you need to get it from read the armour comes after like 2s

[sick ocean]

For reference, I've fought lord Suiza, and I've never seen dtilt from him, and only saw down special because I play harley

[lone trench]

No it’s not 💀. It’s one of her best moves

[rancid jackal]

Name two moves worse than them

[elder chasm]

Sometimes i predict how my opponent approches that's the key

[lone trench]

Neutral attack and air upspecial

[worn ferry]

And I'd like to be able to cancel my slow ass spin move instead having to gamble a hard punish for using it at all when its value has dramatically dropped in recent patches

[elder chasm]

Air up special is so inconsistent
And the neutral can't be comboed into and super weak

[rancid jackal]

Neutral attack is a kill confirm no way, maybe air up special I can agree with

[sick ocean]

Ok, on the cancel front, I don't want that anymore. I feel like if you do it, you made a commitment, and you should just be punished at that point

[lone trench]

“Kill confirm” 💀 Di up

[elder chasm]

The problem is you are vulnerable during the attack
Plus it does 7 damage uncharged ooof

[sick ocean]

Just bc you can di, doesn't make it not a kill confirm

[lone trench]

In any area you could kill with neutral attack you could kill with many different moves. It’s not good it’s not consistent and very punishable

[worn ferry]

I'd agree if tornado had it's previous hurt box but it doesn't and you can literally jab taz or of nado.

[solar field]

Yeah brother I feel the same way this game annoys me with the bs mechanics the characters that obviously have an advantage and over the rest of the roster

[sick ocean]

That's the essence of the game really, even if she has more than expected

[dapper oar]

Now you can just smack it with literally anything, zero priority. Using tornado is just teeing yourself up to get whacked.

[lone trench]

It’s not a good kill confirm I mean.

[fossil flicker]

Yeah like shaggy armored kick

[worn ferry]

Yeah the hurt box change was insane wtf are devs smoking

[fossil flicker]

I hate Shaggy irl after playing this game since release. If I see him its up.

[rancid jackal]

I’ve killed with it many times even getting kills as early as 70

[sick ocean]

1, disjoints are a real thing, and 2, just because it's not as powerful as before, which it is still strong in terms of kb, it doesn't mean it should not be a commimtment

[dapper crown]

bros going to throw fist with shaggy cosplayers 💀

[supple panther]

As an average player who only plays a few times a week I still don’t understand what stuff like Dtilt means…

[solar field]

Shaggy is one forsyre but so is superman with his bs armored attacks that are hard to break and with quick recovery he can spam them like a mf and makes him not easily approachable

[fossil flicker]

My Black Adam cosplay knows no boonds

[lone trench]

Bad di and if you was close to the ledge then that’s just luck. Most nubia mains would put neutral attack as her worst move

[sick ocean]

Down tilt, it's from smash, essentially grounded down attack in multiversus terms

[rancid jackal]

Di up is more of a critism of her jab and side special

[dapper crown]

Black Adam users are crap. Haven't seen no black adam users in casual or ranked

[worn ferry]

Translation I don't play taz I don't like tornado being a competent move and I'm not gonna listen. Ok cool got it

[fossil flicker]

And I feel like the armor break perks dont work consistently either.

[fossil flicker]

Play me sometime hes my 2nd

[dapper crown]

One thing I hate, is I always main Jason, but it's when I get a Powerpuff Girls user 😭

[lone trench]

Di up will make the knockback go ↖️↗️ instead of ⬅️➡️

[fossil flicker]

Whens Marcy release btw

[sick ocean]

I never said don't buff it, but if you give a character a strong move that you can cancel, it will just become the next nair, bc you do have priority on it, no matter how it seems

[dapper crown]

idk but ik im gonna be on her instantly

Gonna be her number 1 main unless Raven gets a Lady Legasus variant

[open girder]

i am coming for you..

[solar field]

It's on sight but everyone hates shaggy though lol he's the easiest to hate but also honorable mentions are superman, nubia, jack, black adam, LeBron, ppg, taz, bugs

[rancid jackal]

You do realize ppl can di horizontally expecting a different follow up tho?

[dapper oar]

It was already punishable on startup. Like Make the cooldown a really short burst, and have the move on cool down longer....

Nope, they made it virtually useless instead.

[dapper crown]

COME ON BRO, I've been on about Lady Legasus ever since her release, no one else wants it but me 😭

[vivid salmon]

Jabs are suppose to have the lowest priority in the game and yet they beat nado

[fossil flicker]

I’m a Nubia main her combos are so easy. I finally learned to do combos cause of her

[open girder]

i ll get #1 marceline

[dapper crown]

nuh uh

[rancid jackal]

Lady legasus def needs in

[fossil flicker]

Lady Legasus release will be epic

[worn ferry]

Making tornado cancelable wouldn't suddenly make taz broken. Dogpile is cancelable do you see taz mains pulling some sick strats by stopping themselves from being a cloud??? Lmao no it would be fine what are you even afraid of

[open girder]

that s it, it s WAR

[fossil flicker]

I hope they give her a GO artstyle change as well

[dapper crown]

Lady Legasus will be the reason the amount of players will increase

[open girder]

fr

[lone trench]

Di up is the best Di against Nubia. If you get hit by neutral special switch to Di away.
That’s it

[fossil flicker]

Walter White coming next season

[sick ocean]

Yes, I get it, but you're not expecting to hit a sword as if it were a hurtbox are you? Priority comes in when in trade situations

[open girder]

real

[vivid salmon]

It dosent need to be cancelable it just needs its fast fall speed back tbh

[fossil flicker]

Omg THEY DID CHANGE TORNADO FALL SPEED

[solar field]

Yeah I'm ngl she's annoying in 2s I play jason this season so I have to teleport like crazy to hit her

[vivid salmon]

I’m not talking about swords I’m talking about shaggy and Steven’s fist

[fossil flicker]

I knew I wasnt tripping. I just float in tornado now like a dummy

[sick ocean]

It has a ton of cooldown, while that's not really the same with side special. And I have seen dog pile cancel edgeguarding yes

[vivid salmon]

Yep they slowed it a ton for no reason

[sick ocean]

I never said it should lose to that, God no

[worn ferry]

Good grief

[vivid salmon]

Well it does lmao

[rancid jackal]

I get that. I still think neutral attack is more useful as a combo finisher than her dtilt is in general

[sick ocean]

Well it shouldn't

[fossil flicker]

I felt so useless and dumb trying taz earlier today

[vivid salmon]

I agree

[sick ocean]

If you want it buffed make it faster or something

[worn ferry]

The average taz experience

[dapper crown]

I hate that we haven't got gameplay for Marcy yet. Hope she acctualy uses her bass as an accual axe like it's design and only use her bass as a bass for soundwaves in special aerial attacks

[fossil flicker]

When you say combo finisher are you talking jab into neutral attack?

[vivid salmon]

Makes sense, he’s bottom 3 rn I think

[dapper crown]

Taz is annoying to play against 💀 my brother in christs gets you in one combo and you're done, although I always main Jason, so I can't say much

[rancid jackal]

That’s a jab confirm not really a combo

[lone trench]

As a combo finisher it isn’t useful. You can only hit neutral attack from jab true.
Why not go for jab - uptilt - upair

Does more damage and is better kill confirm.

[fossil flicker]

Is jab uptilt true?

[lone trench]

Yes

[rancid jackal]

I’ve ground bounced ppl after side special into it

[lone trench]

Yea but that’s diable

[rancid jackal]

And the stage carry from the side special helps it kill earlier

[fossil flicker]

I like jab - side special - up special

[rancid jackal]

That doesn’t mean it’s bad tho, you just said Nubia dtilt and dair spec are good despite not being able to combo with them and requiring a read

[open girder]

i mean it s fair tbh, we can only expect her trailer during game awards

[kind jolt]

please dont do this MVS

I dont want people seeing this game its too embarrassing

[fossil flicker]

Game awards trailer hype

[open girder]

it s a trailer chill

[kind jolt]

but then they might play the game

[open girder]

and

[kind jolt]

and the games embarrassing

[open girder]

hopefully they fix the fighter road to welcome better the new people

[kind jolt]

Imagine you are a street fighter player and end up on MVS 😭

[open girder]

i ve seen games more popular and worse state

[lone trench]

Yea because one has armour and can do 30%+
And the other can reflect projectiles

[kind jolt]

which fighting games?

I guess the game awards are bigger than the fighting game community

[open girder]

not fighting games but generally even though Fighterz was kinda embarassing for how broken the meta was

[rancid jackal]

And her neutral attack can kill consistently

[fluid chasm]

Lab coat

[lone trench]

No it can’t bro. It isn’t a good kill confirm

[open girder]

gogeta blue khm khm tods off every move khm khm

DLC too

[fluid chasm]

Z broly free level 9

[open girder]

z broly that can mash and win ( he has 20 hits of armor )

[fluid chasm]

Real

[open girder]

he s the best zoner while being a grappler

[rancid jackal]

I mean it’s better than anything jack has. It’s still a kill confirm

[open girder]

idk how ridicolous and dumb is that but i think it s on par as mvs/ worse since fighterz wont change

people be acting as if there werent games that are/ have been worse than mvs

[sick ocean]

At this point, idk if it was that bad, bc on 1 hand, it was bad in the sense that she was represented everywhere and stuff, but on the other hand, it similar to the steve situation where ppl started to deal with it, unlike other games that could do nothing, but also, it's been a staple of fighters, really interesting to think abt

[open girder]

the problem is that lab coat is not the only issue with the game, it s not their first DLC that contains a broken char she just was badly designed and useless ( design wise )

[fluid chasm]

We don't talk about gt goku

[sick ocean]

Ik, but God she was bad, Casual permanent -21% dmg, so now your spark is essentially useless

[rancid jackal]

At least the hyperoffensive nature of dbfz means you can end your opponent b4 they can do any of their broken stuff

[open girder]

fighterz is amazing but it s undeniable that characters like gogeta 4

[sick ocean]

We DO talk abt it, don't even play fighters and he annoys me

[open girder]

if your character had a good string that is, or if the enemy was bad enough to fall for frametraps or not the first one to attack

[open girder]

dont remind me of her stomp follow ups.

[sick ocean]

Least she looked cool

[open girder]

yeah for being basically a skin she did

[fluid chasm]

Nah she isn't cooler

Cooler is way too fun to play

[open girder]

cooler is chad

actual fun and not broken big body

[fluid chasm]

I'm glad his level 3 can counter gogeta 1 shot

[open girder]

it counters everything

oh yeah that game has a legit 1 instakill move that u can pull off super easily btw

[fluid chasm]

He's so Chad for that

Camp behind assists or switch and build it up

[open girder]

it s the same character who has 100 mixups and a reset string move so he can just attack how much he wants

[rancid jackal]

Gogeta is beyond broken

[open girder]

yeah

[analog stirrup]

Which one?
Gogeta ss
Gogeta ss4
Gogeta ssb

[rancid jackal]

All

[open girder]

gogeta ss doesnt exist in fighterz but still he s broken in other games

[worn ferry]

Buff Taz

[rancid jackal]

I took a break from the game when I started seeing all gogeta 4 blue and ui goku on every team

[open girder]

holy ui goku, the king of passive play

literally just sat there and he has 4 defensive options make the enemy attack and you won

atleast he s not that broken anymore

[rancid jackal]

Screen wide air punches that can confirm into a full combo off of

[open girder]

but still annoying to face one that plays like that

then we have super baby who s an undertale bossfight

[rancid jackal]

Ui could confirm off of anything just bc his auto combo vacuumed you in no matter what move he did prior

[open girder]

i remembered that

[rancid jackal]

Vanish into auto combo was just broken

[open girder]

lv 1 counter that destroyed you and was like frame 3-4

[rugged ferry]

Why is every superman I play against the most toxic looser that ever did grace my screen? Good lord what is it about him that attracts these neanderthals.

Like bro you won a FFA why are you salting?

[rancid jackal]

He’s broken that’s why

[worn ferry]

They get to play braindead for free don't even have to read their opponents just dodge dash into jab and then salt emote when you're done

[rancid jackal]

Idk why Superman needs so much armor

[fluid chasm]

he's made to make the player more of a coward

[open girder]

which is so ironic for ui goku

[open girder]

he doesnt in fact

[rancid jackal]

My team in dbfz used to be hit kefla gt goku.

[rugged ferry]

I figured just man like bro your being hard carried by the character. 😮‍💨 Like c'mon bro doesn't need all that armor nor does he need like 3 command grabs

[worn ferry]

Superman mains and Jack mains salt emote the most in this game

[open girder]

oh no not the gt goku

[worn ferry]

Jason mains a close second tho

[rugged ferry]

For me it's always Superman,Shaggy and Arya that attract the most toxic bottom feeders

[rancid jackal]

I used him only after his prime xD. I just love spirit bomb into dragon fist so much

[rugged ferry]

🥲.....b-but I always say GG......

[open girder]

alr that s good, he s still cancer and drops off most combos but not as broken as his prime

[worn ferry]

You know it wasn't a gg tho

[rancid jackal]

I only played kefla and gt for the double supers until everyone else got them

[open girder]

i used like

[rugged ferry]

IT WAS THO I thought it was going for the friendly big guy vibes

[open girder]

gogeta ss4 , cell/z broly , tenshinhan

[worn ferry]

No one wants to see a Jason main gg sticker them just walk off the stage and die😌🫵🏿

[rugged ferry]

Ggs are a sign of respect in my book lol

[lone trench]

Upspecial armour needs to get removed

[rancid jackal]

Bardock after doing a double super combo 🤓

Gt goku after doing a level 6 combo 😈

[sage summit]

🥱

[rancid jackal]

Oh god I just got ptsd from level 6 z broly combos

[open girder]

I GOT A PRESENT FOR YOU, HAHAHAHAH

[sage summit]

I still have xenoverse PTSD

"IT ISN'T OVER YET!"

[rancid jackal]

2 presents back to back xD

[open girder]

broly made you feel like if you were on christmas already

[sage summit]

Or

"I'LL DESTROY YOU AND THIS ENTIRE PLANET! AHAHAHAHAHAH!"

[rancid jackal]

Whoever invented dragon rush after level 3 has a special place in hell made just for them

[open girder]

or his heavy grab doing the dmg of a super

[worn ferry]

Skill issue just git gud

[open girder]

🗿

[rancid jackal]

Nice myles

[worn ferry]

Thx :p

[wraith geyser]

What means whiff. It is usefull for Taz or players against Taz =0

[unreal tulip]

One man's whiff is another man's treasure

[glacial spear]

taz get nerfed ?

[sage summit]

I can't wait till Marcaline comes out, I will grind her to masters in a week, trust.

[unreal tulip]

Marcaline

[sage summit]

He's been getting micronerfs since like last season if I'm not mistaken.

[worn ferry]

I wonder if they'll add vocals to this game w Marceline

[warm holly]

game peak has sus in name

[glacial spear]

good riddance

[worn ferry]

Imagine if I'm Just Your Problem got put into MV

[sage summit]

Multiver....SUS

[glacial spear]

he’s so silly

[unreal tulip]

M-ulti-versus

[rancid jackal]

Amogus confirmed

[fluid chasm]

can't wait for the same cycle we get hype for a week new character enjoyment for at least 2 weeks events became ass and stale go play a different game rinse and repeat

[sage summit]

When the imposter is sus

(He ztd 3 times in a row)

[worn ferry]

I remember I would just stand on vents and not move after finishing my tasks

[sage summit]

The new character comes out, were hype, we get them to masters, we come back when a new character comes out; repeat.

Yk what you're supposed to do at that point, start doing tournaments.

[fluid chasm]

nah the masters part depends if we want to become hardcore fox depressed

[worn ferry]

Getting internet embarrassed that hard gotta be rough

[rancid jackal]

Hardcorefox needs to do something else besides play mvs

[sage summit]

I dunno, I usually have a good time, I play with friends so it's usually pretty silly.

[rancid jackal]

New chars aren’t saving the game atp

The only logical solution to save mvs is to collab with fortnite

[sage summit]

Me and my roommate grind to masters every season and just take blinkers on every loss till we can't play anymore.

This game is super fun if you don't take it very seriously.

[fluid chasm]

I just run customs with friends more fun than playing rank in my opinion but I rather just play other games with friends at that point but I respect your enjoyment

[sage summit]

I like watching the progress bar go up, customs is good for practice, but I wanna be the reason the toxic sweaty Superman gets off the game.

I want to be the salt stomper.

[quartz ermine]

yooo the heck goin on, 500 in game on Steam?!

[unreal tulip]

I'm not jumping ships either.
I play this and a single player game.

[sage summit]

It's 8 am on a Wednesday

5 am west coast

[rancid jackal]

It’s dead

[fluid chasm]

lmao

[quartz ermine]

its affiliated with WB, a multi billion dollar company, this game should be poppin

[stark jetty]

Steam MVS has the lowest player base

[fluid chasm]

my spotify wrapped is so cooked

[stark jetty]

But also sounds like a good time to grind ranked lmao

[quartz ermine]

time zone aint no excuse for a game like this, its okay to admit this game is dying (im a $100 beta supportor too)

[sage summit]

You'll run into the same like 8 people in your region

[rancid jackal]

It’s still kinda pitiful compared to other games steam chart even games that cost 60-70

[fluid chasm]

I have nearly 6k hours this year 400 songs and my top 3 are hazbin songs I have a problem 🥲

[rancid jackal]

Me too

[unreal tulip]

Mine probably has Muppets songs as the most played XD

[sage summit]

It just doesn't make a lot of sense, it's like walking into cloud 9 (a club) early ASF in the morning, and being like damn... This place is dead.

[stark jetty]

Numbers will pick back up in two weeks for marcilines release

[rancid jackal]

The 94% player drop off from may 2024 suggests that this game is def declining

[quartz ermine]

im tellin ya, i miss the early access so much, probably 70k players for 2-3 weeks straight, there was only 2 currencies. back when the game wasnt all focused on skins and money it seems to me...

[fluid chasm]

we'll see

[rancid jackal]

Not by much I’m pretty sure game still won’t have over 10k players

[fluid chasm]

if marceline is way too broken it could go back down again

[unreal tulip]

Thankfully I just press play and don't give a care about numbers ; )

[sage summit]

Back when the game was unbalanced and filled with ztd and inf loops.

Honestly hated beta, felt lame ASF to play.

[stark jetty]

I do expect a dip in playerbase when marvel rivals releases on Friday

[quartz ermine]

well it was beta for a reason, then they restarted after 2 seasons and had a YEAR to make the game better, then had a failed launch

[rancid jackal]

Raven didn’t bring anyone back or new players the games playerbase this month and last month are the lowest it’s ever been

[unreal tulip]

Well, they made a CRITICAL mistake last month

[stark jetty]

Is the mistake nubia lol

[unreal tulip]

I didn't say that, but yes XD

[rancid jackal]

Nubia or no Nubia the game was still declining

[fluid chasm]

yeah it really has

[rancid jackal]

Not even the ppg could keep ppl hype for long

[fluid chasm]

video views won't be the same in game

[sage summit]

If Nubia was the reason this game started declining, the issue wouldn't be with the game, it'd be with the players.

[unreal tulip]

You can't say that for sure, or state the magnitude of the decline without the CRITICAL mistake

[fluid chasm]

It was more on the content and balancing issues

[unreal tulip]

S3 was the worst balance spot of the game ever

[fluid chasm]

besides S1

[sage summit]

S1 was horrendous

[stark jetty]

Nubia killed hype for the second half of season 3

Ppgs video and raven videos did well though

[rancid jackal]

At least s1 didn’t have ranked

[unreal tulip]

I know what I said

[stark jetty]

And people were invested in season 4 changes

[fluid chasm]

if it did it would have been hella worse

[rancid jackal]

They did well but ultimately did nothing for the playerbase

[fluid chasm]

s2 was honestly my favorite besides rank being hella trash

[unreal tulip]

Tell that to my Top Dog badges ; )

[fluid chasm]

and jack being way too broken

[rancid jackal]

S2 is by far the best season of mvs

[sage summit]

My 2, 5 star 1st place top dog badges.

[fluid chasm]

real

[unreal tulip]

Managed to get all of the different tiers, and had to carefully plan settling on bronze back then ; )

[rancid jackal]

Samurai jack, beetlejuice, and the playerbase was over 100k

[fluid chasm]

and I love both stages in s2 wb tower and titans tower was actual fair enough

[quartz ermine]

even though i dont need characters, i feel like the grind to get them for free is way too much. pretty sure ive played like 40 games and just broke half way to unlocking someone

[fluid chasm]

They should go a season with no characters and fix the balancing

because every character has been very rushed

[stark jetty]

If they did that, the playerbase would lose even more intrest and wouldn't give the changes a chance

[hasty crest]

game sadly is in a point it relies on IPs so this would hurt it more

[fluid chasm]

I guess you're right

[rancid jackal]

Overall the game was rushed. Everything we’ll have by season should’ve been in at relaunch

[sage summit]

Most of them are very close minded, and not open to the game being fixed, if they aren't receiving characters they like at the same time so yeah.

[rancid jackal]

2 of the most hype char releases couldnt keep ppl interested for more than a week

[stark jetty]

I mean I still play the game seasonally and will likely get to masters every season until we stop getting ranked skins lol

I will be there if the playerbase goes under 100, and get my first grandmaster rank

[rancid jackal]

Same, I play until masters and then I fortnite until mvs has something worth playin for

[sage summit]

Playing the long game lol

[high parcel]

When you're playing against a "keep away" kind of player and u feel like u wanna "keep away" the fire extinguisher as you set their house on fire

[sage summit]

I prefer to take the fire extinguisher and shove it up where their sun don't shine.

[rancid jackal]

The game has no business still not having shields

[fluid chasm]

The advertising for this game is terrible I haven't seen an mvs ad on youtube since s1

[rancid jackal]

I mean we just had multiple tourneys that seemed the most balanced they ever have been bc of shields why not just add them in

That’s why I only play on Thursday

[fluid chasm]

I'm just taking a break from the game I already finished the battle pass

[rancid jackal]

The battlepass sucks too

[fluid chasm]

the split battle pass was honestly a bad move

[rancid jackal]

Give me samurai jack skins

Not Velma and black Adam

[unreal tulip]

Hi, Pyro from TF2

[stark jetty]

I mean in concept it is so you get a skin for both new characters so I get it

[rancid jackal]

Honestly we need a season with dc getting nothing new in it

[fluid chasm]

Yeah I can understand that but at the same time I don't mind paying money for a marceline skin instead of 2 separated battle passes

[rancid jackal]

The only thing I give credit to mvs is giving us enough free gleam sources to be able to get every battlepass f2p and then some

[fluid chasm]

yep

[rancid jackal]

I’ve never paid for the battlepass

[fluid chasm]

same

bugs still doesn't have a legendary skin even though he's the mascot of warner

if I see batman get another elusive/legendary skin I'll crash out

[high parcel]

Bugs is a little zlut all he deserves is my carrot

[fluid chasm]

bro what

[rancid jackal]

That’s actually wild, and he has the most source material to pour from

[fluid chasm]

the dc glazing is too much for pfg

[rancid jackal]

Dc burnout is real

[fluid chasm]

now fortnite got back into it

[cedar viper]

I though super rabbit gonna be legendary

[fluid chasm]

same

[cedar viper]

Maybe King Bugs.. or... OG bugs from 1938

[cedar viper]

Impossible. Warner once said they would focus on three major brands - Potter, DC and Westeros. So DC will be technically always in Mvs

[rancid jackal]

Cuz fortnite hasn’t had dc in like 2 years their return is justified

[rancid jackal]

Dc is the only one who has gotten any major representation in mvs

[cedar viper]

Yup. Potter will probably not be until the premiere of the HBO series. Westeros doesn't need games.

Also Hogwart Legacy was a bomb so they grind to release Legacy 2

(I was referring to WB in general, not just brands in MVs).

[rancid jackal]

I like hogwarts legacy ngl but Harry Potter ain’t really it rn unfortunately

[autumn bane]

Anyone else worried WB will pull the plug on MVS soon cause of the whole “severely underperformed” statement?

[verbal rune]

Rank dm me

[hollow hollow]

When was that issued?

[autumn bane]

https://www.ign.com/articles/warner-bros-admits-multiversus-underperformed-contributing-to-another-100-million-hit-to-revenue-in-its-games-business

[unreal tulip]

it was more of a clickbait title, but it really talks about WB as a whole

[worn ferry]

Harry Potter 🤢🤢🤢🤮

[rich oak]

what is yall least favorite minigame in rifts? mine is meseeks golf

[worn ferry]

The Target ones for sure. Extremely boring

[rich oak]

I'd take boring over annoying any day

[worn ferry]

I wouldn't. At least w annoying I feel something

[fluid chasm]

Crazy

[worn ferry]

Melee Target Smash music go hard af tho

[unreal tulip]

one day you'll be a great golfer just like me: https://streamable.com/0is9f2

[twin bloom]

You bronze 1? 😬

[fossil flicker]

I think my highest is silver 1

[twin bloom]

Woahh HUGE!!

[fossil flicker]

Tryna run some 1s? Im on us east

[warm holly]

W game js had someone throw again

[fossil flicker]

Guess not

[stark jetty]

In 1v1 I grind to gold and stop

1v1 is awful the characters aren't balanced for it

The game needs to be faster overall for 1v1 to work

[warm holly]

it was faster at one point./

[stark jetty]

Yeah beta

[worn ferry]

Ppl who are like "I like Huskies" no you don't. You don't like constant screaming.

[unreal tulip]

W game, just had a Bugs glide off stage and die 4 times, and then got paired with him again

[stark jetty]

No escape

[warm holly]

this game js loves lagging too

[unreal tulip]

they weren't

[warm holly]

not ur case, just this game entirely loves laggign

[worn ferry]

Huskies are like the second worst dog. Chihuahuas taking first place naturally.

[warm holly]

based.

[unreal tulip]

I won't accept a tierlist where pugs aren't as bad as chihuahuas

[rancid jackal]

Huskies are cool until you run into a stray one on the street and he attacks you and your dog

[warm holly]

I guess i get a bot in my ranked match vs 2 d1's?

[fossil flicker]

I dislike 1s too but it is a fun skill check

[warm holly]

raven nerfs when? mages shldnt have 0-100 combos

[unreal tulip]

fun and 1s in the same sentence

[warm holly]

with no whiff lag at all

[fluid chasm]

raven is just annoying to me honestly

[warm holly]

god this games so awful just buff all the broken characters atp

[stark jetty]

I had multiple people live on the side of the map waiting for me to give up stage advantage to attempt to punish them

[mental crane]

This game is awful for many many reasons

[warm holly]

I guess i’ll just stay lagging when my pc can handle this awful 2d game lol

[stark jetty]

And that just isn't fun or take skill

[fossil flicker]

Its fun OUTSIDE of ranked imo. Ranked ones makes me wanna squeeze my own head

[fluid chasm]

I lag on MvS more than fortnite

[unreal tulip]

I have one reason I don't like in particular

[mental crane]

Nubia surely

[stark jetty]

Yeah I was talking about only grinding to gold 5 because ranked 1v1 is garbage

[unreal tulip]

you know my flat monodimensional mind too well ; )

[warm holly]

I love taking ravens for a walk

[fluid chasm]

ravens I fight mostly stall

[fossil flicker]

Ohhh yeah its real stressful in 1s especially some people have lil cheesy tactics

[iron silo]

Same. I still think it's weird this game doesn't have regional servers

[fluid chasm]

That's what got me confused How I'm lagging on a platform fighter more than a 3d shooter with more storage

[stark jetty]

I mean it's easy to say "oh jack is so broken"

Play him in 1v1s and grind to gold and tell me with a straight face he is anything higher than mid tier lol

[iron silo]

He's mid tier, I wouldn't consider him absurdly broken

[tulip bluff]

Jack is mid tier at best lol

[iron silo]

He's functional, the issue here is that a decent amount of characters aren't

[stark jetty]

Jack is strong in 2s, but in 1s he is a lot weaker than most of the cast

[mental crane]

Does anyone want to continue mocking payerfirstgames for including so many nobody characters and so many lazy snapchat filter skins

[tulip bluff]

I just wish they would sell variants to other characters other then the same characters (mainly dc cast) They would actually gain some profit from doing that.

[stark jetty]

I'm not going to mock them because the characters are fun

But if the game dies, it's clear they should have considered more popular characters

[iron silo]

Honestly shouldn't that be how it is? 2v2 IS the focus, they should try to make it so everyone is good in 2s

[stark jetty]

Elusive skins are the death of this game

[tulip bluff]

genuinely every DC main have spent little money because they already have bought cosmetics

[fluid chasm]

the fact raven's skin is elusive is wild

[stark jetty]

I mean that's why I tell people 1v1 is a terrible experience lol

[iron silo]

I'd say that their worst pick was Nubia (even if I don't mind her) but the other ones are cool

[mental crane]

Stripe legit has basically no skins unique to him. He has two skins from when he was a 2in1 with gizmo and a few of the lazy snapchat filter skins.

[stark jetty]

Launching with banana guard was the first red flag

[mental crane]

I wouldn't mind a character like nubia if they werent just another DC rep. We have so many DC reps and dont even have the flash

[tulip bluff]

They could sell any jack cosmetic and i would buy it regardless of price (likewise for other jack mains and people who dont main jack)

[fluid chasm]

fr

[iron silo]

His best skin is unironically probably the muertos one

[tulip bluff]

Need a jack ringout.

[stark jetty]

Nubia should have been on launch instead of banana guard

And banana guard shouldn't be in the game

[unreal tulip]

Nubia shouldn't have been ever in the game, and so bg

[mental crane]

I hope for Valentines Day they add the same lazy snapchat filter skins from last time to the same characters but in purple

[tulip bluff]

no character addition is a wasted addition, nubia and Bg just arent popular compared to everyone else in the roster hence gave little traction to the game.

[fluid chasm]

I still remember that comment some made on stream nubia more like N word I started laughing

It was messed up but it was too funny

[unreal tulip]

character without any traction are wasted additions by definition

[tulip bluff]

Nubia is a cool additon, just dont think it was a good choice to add her in the games state at that time. BG was fine because he released with 3 other actual good characters.

[mental crane]

Nubia and Banana Guard actually are wasted additions but i appreciate your attempt at trying

[tulip bluff]

Nope. Content is content, no character addition is a wasted addition regardless if the addition sucked.

[fluid chasm]

if you make a wasted slot character at least make a good moveset

[warm holly]

guess they didn’t hear u when they made gizmo stripe and bj

[fluid chasm]

which unfortuantely both don't have nubia I like her a bit but most of the gameplay I have to use side b a lot

[mental crane]

You make this so hard... I really dont want to embarrass you bc i know youre really trying to make the circle fit in the square hole but nobodyia and adventure time background guardsman are actually referred to as Wasted Slots unanimously

[tulip bluff]

Bg and Nubia were unnessacary additions. Nubia being a cool character while BG just being a joke character.

[fluid chasm]

gizmo and stripe and bj had decent enough movesets to make them different enough

[tulip bluff]

"I really dont want to embarrass you" lmao you sound so funny. I dont like this game and i havent in a while but even i know that they arent wasted characters.

[mental crane]

Banana Guard and Nubia both being nobody spear users is kinda funny. Payerfirstgames is nothing if not consistently lazy

[fluid chasm]

banana guard is just spear and cry

[tulip bluff]

You arent embarrasing anyone bro, this is a online app and i actually dont care what you got to say

[mental crane]

Me when i need to make a wasted slot and Spear User worked twice

[warm holly]

gizmo n stripe r upon the worst movesets.. literally worst than bg

can people just be normal about not liking a character 😭

[stark jetty]

My argument is more so those choices were not healthy for the life of the game

When it has already been struggling since relaunch

[warm holly]

it’s been struggling since beta release 🤣

[mental crane]

Erm multiversus has 160k players on steam; multiversus is back

[fluid chasm]

what makes them worst honestly they got the source material right for them

[unreal tulip]

bad content is wasted resources, thus wasted additions

[warm holly]

Me when i lie 😂

[strange fjord]

give Jack reverse grab back

[mental crane]

Finally someone who gets it

[tulip bluff]

No

[strange fjord]

😔

[tulip bluff]

he aint need that tbh

[warm holly]

Banana has a good pick rate and nubia has gotten more popular. so idk about wasted

[strange fjord]

he was swaggy with it tho

[fluid chasm]

I play him a lot but I find his moveset such a shaggy clone

[tulip bluff]

grab needs buffs though, the command grab for jack is terrible, reverse grab is just cheese.

[unreal tulip]

meta hoppers would play with a ball of trash if it had good framedata, fact is they didn't bring any new player

[warm holly]

cuz it is

[worn ferry]

Pause what you say about bj

[unreal tulip]

those who play them would have played the game regardless

[tulip bluff]

There are a bunch of nubia mains and a bunch of BG mains, they arent wasted additions but unnessacary and bad additions.

[warm holly]

That’s just it. they didn’t get the source material right at all, especially stripe n gizmo lol, bg just really makes 0 sense altogether

[fluid chasm]

banana guard at least could be at least had a more funny moveset

[warm holly]

Considering he was added for free along with 2 other characters it’s whatever

[unreal tulip]

I'm still annoyed when I meet either of the 2 and they ruin my immersion of famous characters fighting

[tulip bluff]

PFG adds content for their community to enjoy:
They are wasted characters because i dont main them

[fluid chasm]

I love joke characters but this isn't a joke character I can get a good laugh at

[warm holly]

this mindset is just boring

[tulip bluff]

if the players like the characters, then they arent really wasted lol

[worn ferry]

Speaking of source material can we talk about the MV comics cuz.... idk who that crystal gem in it is but that's not Garnet. That's like Gramet or some shet

[unreal tulip]

PFG community isn't the same as "that small percentage of people who give a care about whobia"

[warm holly]

Damn sorry guys only popular characters everyones mom knows

honestly, if they just sped up the game back to beta speed there wouldbe 0 problems

[unreal tulip]

if the resources spent didn't give a return of new players then it's wasted
but of course I can see the amazing skin potential and sales for WW skins adapted for a WW skin named nubia

[fluid chasm]

nah I'm about to pull a smash who actually cares about min min

[warm holly]

me

Some characters aren’t meant to grab everybody and that’s ok

[fluid chasm]

min min needs to grab constantly

[warm holly]

Appeal, attract

[tulip bluff]

It did bring back players. Bg was fine when he got added because he was released with 3 other characters and no one actually cared for BG. Now he is pretty loved by the community but everyone pretty much agrees that he is a bad addition.

[unreal tulip]

it's so far the only trailer with less than 80k views, didn't bring anything.
And bg is just a broken mess of a shaggy clone so idiots can win easily because pfg can't balance "loved"

[mental crane]

Really good gotcha but actually I'd say multiversus' problem is that the nobody characters are below even baseline understanding :3.

Nubia isnt popular to anybody anywhere but she also isnt even remotely known by anybody in the dc comics sphere. Even Jumpa has appeared more than Nubia.

Banana Guard is well known but still a nobody loser because he is designed to be a background gag

[silver steeple]

So, was there an issue with ranked yesterday?

[indigo nebula]

Aight so, I'm suffering with Taz rn

[warm holly]

gotcha? 😭 it’s my opinion. i’m so sorry you don’t know who they are, there’s plenty of smash nobodies as well. if u didn’t like them, wipe ur tears and wait for the next one you’ll be ok

[fluid chasm]

I wish nubia had her suplex move at least it would have been very funny

[tulip bluff]

I personally think they gotta stop using resources on new stuff like shields and use the resources to actually fix the current issues, hitbox and etc

[fluid chasm]

funny thing was nubia was going a skin for wonder woman

[warm holly]

THIS!!!

[tulip bluff]

Nubia is a fun character to use and i like the character.

[warm holly]

parry is the way to go bb

[mental crane]

There is no nobodies in smash. Thats the fun of smash. Not a single playable guardaman or background character nor any of zeldas sisters are playable. Multiversus is sadly addicted to making nobody characters and has far too many people like you willing to ride

[tulip bluff]

BG is annoying to use because of his voicelines hence why i dont main him

[unreal tulip]

Shields radically changing the game are gonna pile up another whole ass level of issues when they can't even balance the problems they already have

[fluid chasm]

rework auto tech pls

[stark jetty]

I feel like we should be good content wise for the next 3 seasons after the current ones.

But after that it's honestly up in the air if more content will get greenlit

[warm holly]

I have not met a single person who knew every smash charscter and where they came from.

[unreal tulip]

try me

[stark jetty]

At this point it doesn't matter what the roster is, the game is at risk imo

[tulip bluff]

I dont get why they are trying to pile up more issues with the current issues, its just a bad choice in general.

[warm holly]

And not every smash player is 30+ years old

[tulip bluff]

When shields come, there will still be issues though being tested for weeks.

[mental crane]

I was gonna say. Id say most people who like smash know where they are from. I dont gaf about mother 3 and know what lucas is from..
Sadly the riders dont ever have good points anymore ...

[fluid chasm]

duck hunt duo is so goated

[warm holly]

No literally, why are we still having game crashing sig perks and the shop crashing

[stark jetty]

Part of me wonders if shields will be added to the game and then scrapped later

[indigo nebula]

Yea but I kinda still want a shield

[warm holly]

I kept it respectful, so i suggest you do too

[tulip bluff]

I have hope for mvs future if it lasts long but they are doing bad choices consistently.

[fluid chasm]

also they need to stop removing perks

[unreal tulip]

also one thing is the main character of a relatively less known game out of what 60 characters?
2 out of 30 and they are absolutely dumb

[mental crane]

Please stop bothering me, insect

[tulip bluff]

Airwalker perk gotta go btw, only benefits like 3 characters.

[stark jetty]

Thats mean

[unreal tulip]

was that a Ragnaros impression?
DIE INSECT!!!

[warm holly]

Yall probably think rosalina and olimar are wastes too, just because they aren’t super strong or popular

[fluid chasm]

airwalker makes those 3 characters cheese

[indigo nebula]

Rob

[warm holly]

when these are niche character types for more ppl to enjoy

[fluid chasm]

olimar and rosa are both strong

[unreal tulip]

Rosalina is meh, Olimar has like 3 games and represents his own game

[stark jetty]

I can't talk about popular picks

I want Geno and Sans in smash lol

[tulip bluff]

airwalker perk is a cool idea but its only beneficial for 3 characters and shouldve never been implented in the first place.

[stark jetty]

Those are my top two

[mental crane]

It was a little mean. I let my darkness consume me. Love will prevail.

[fluid chasm]

the smash community got hype over a mii costume such good times

[warm holly]

Ok so olimar was on your list of hype cash grabs?

[stark jetty]

Sans mii was more popular than Terry bogard

[warm holly]

do it again and see what happens

[fluid chasm]

lmao

[mental crane]

Nope ! Those are highly regarded characters and fan favorites... Not really a very good example to use a mario character and an entire game's mascot

[stark jetty]

That tells me which one should have been playable and which should have been a mii

[warm holly]

The 70 obscure fire emblem characters really made a mark as well i bet

[fluid chasm]

If cuphead was playable I would have been so excited

[stark jetty]

I can't say the same for geno though, sephiroth and sora were very popular as well as dragon quest protag

Geno would still be awesome though

[unreal tulip]

I could definitely see them referencing pikmin in the nintendo game about nintendo games, it's not like they added a goolix

[fluid chasm]

pikmin is pretty loved

[stark jetty]

Cup head would have been so much better than byleth, that reveal was the worst of all the dlc

[warm holly]

alr it’s just a brick wall atp nvm

[fluid chasm]

hoes mad was funny but byleth was a very terrible pick