general

[ionic swan]

When I Get someTime in the coming days sure

[sage summit]

1s... 🤮

[simple hemlock]

I’d rather campy mindgames than absolute chaos I’m ngl

[unreal tulip]

[simple hemlock]

Both are bad in the extreme

[sage summit]

2s is more than chaos if you're good at it js

[worthy violet]

I do love me some chaos, those black friday fights last night were spectacular

[simple hemlock]

1s is more than camp : )

[unreal tulip]

Both modes play the hand they were dealt... 2s is just better.

[simple hemlock]

They both have their issues tho

[sage summit]

Fs but most of the 1s player base treats it like only camp, bait wiff, punish, or ztd.

[ionic swan]

Hows ur Taz, Id place myself in the top 30 Taz‘s in the game in terms of skill at the moment.

If your able to help me improve in any way Its always desired

[worthy violet]

it depends on your opponent and teammate

[sage summit]

So it's significantly worse than 2s for sure.

[simple hemlock]

I normally grind KOTHs until end of season so i can’t rank myself among the ladder but I’ve played dittos with the best Tazs and gone back n forth
I was #2 taz on ladder in beta when I grinded that way more

[sage summit]

If you play 1s prepare to play like youve never had a confrontation in your life, or play like you're a crack addict.

[simple hemlock]

I only grind ranked to masters now for the skins then go back to king of the hill lobbies lol

[sinful gorge]

The main issue is that MVS rewards this kind of gameplay, in 1v1 and 2v2

[ionic swan]

Ah, thats pretty good yea I‘d say so

Im always Behind everyone in rank because I have a busy life.

Ive beaten alot of GM in the top 20 before last season so I‘d say Im not the worst

[sinful gorge]

Like what's the benefit of rushing someone down when they can punish dodge so easily

[sage summit]

2s is also just more fun cause you can play it with friends, playing this game alone is like -80000 aura

[ionic swan]

2s is fun, it‘s just so unpredictable sometimes

[simple hemlock]

I got GM wins in ranked
The most notable are hardcore fox and wolfavenger

I beat fox when Tom still had loops… 🥶
That was not fun LOL

[worthy violet]

I agree I hope the campers have both sides of their pillow warm

[ionic swan]

Oh I beat Hardcore last season 2/0. He‘s nerfed rn

[sage summit]

Feels like the best part, meta doesn't always win in 2s, off picks can work together with synergy to rock the enemy team.

In 1s, you have to overcome both a mechanical skill level, and a meta gap if they decide to play high tier. Which most people past diamond do.

[ionic swan]

I ran into some top Wonder women also

[simple hemlock]

It’s more about bait n punish than raw aggression.

[wraith geyser]

Somepony knows which other offers are at black friday deals =0?

[sinful gorge]

bait and punish is the passive/defensive gameplay everyone hates

Most of the time, first person to throw an attack loses

[ionic swan]

Playing passive can be super boring sometimes but as a Taz main I dont got alot of options but to play it safe

[worthy violet]

cashier associates are 75% off

[sage summit]

Bait wiffing, literally the worst feeling to play against, wish stop camping would punish this style of play WAY WAY harder.

[wraith geyser]

I didn't understood.

[worthy violet]

and the player knows how scummy they are playing and still play like that emoting on you

[simple hemlock]

Why? Many games especially platform fighters operate off bait and punish
Pure mashing and pure camping is hardly ever what’s going on. Sometimes you’ll see it but not often if the game isn’t balanced beyond repair lol

[sage summit]

Also morticide do you actually stream, I remember fighting you and looking you up on twitch after, and couldn't find anything.

[worthy violet]

sparking zero where you need 100% aggression

[simple hemlock]

Huh

Sparking zero has a lot of degen stall tactics

It’s also a party game

[sinful gorge]

I took a break when the game left beta, haven't started up again

The problem with the defensive/bait gameplay though is really the trade system

It sucks when you're comboing someone, outplaying them, and then you die on a trade

[sage summit]

But in multiversus you are basically rewarded for doing this the entire game, esp on certain characters with low wiff, or basically no punish. TS sucks, esp with this meta, smith jab is still a vacuum. Arya has been terrible since launch about this, and banana sair makes me wanna SD irl.

[sinful gorge]

Further punishing the aggressive gameplay

[simple hemlock]

The balance in SZ is pretty intentionally lacking.
There are a lot of moments where you dodge > counter attack > they dodge and counter > you dodge
And this just kinda happens until someone’s outta meter

[sinful gorge]

I think it's wack when you're at 150%, and you start outplaying your opponent just to get punished and killed on a trade when your attack comes out first

[lime ingot]

SZ is just built poorly

[simple hemlock]

Shields need to come soon. I don’t disagree that respecting too much space is an issue in 1s. After playing over a hundred games with block now it’s very obvious why that mechanic is needed in a game where dodge cancel bursts are so central to gameplay

[sinful gorge]

Not just an issue in 1v1, it's an issue in 2v2 as well

[simple hemlock]

I mean… you’re at 150
You just gotta be extra safe idk what to say to that lol

[analog stirrup]

i heard that game wasn't supposed to be competitive game
but it's kinda weird that bandai itself made an official tourney streaming

[sinful gorge]

I get that, but when your attack comes out first?

[sage summit]

2s are just more aggressive tho usually, I don't see camping and running as big of an issue, until the losing team is on final stock.

[sinful gorge]

But the game just goes "Actually, you both hit"

I love smash, but it's online sucks so bad it's basically unplayable. The trades in this game threw me off so badly lol

[simple hemlock]

Trades exist. It depends on the frame of their attack

[sage summit]

Also you can't get a double ko in 1s, so really, what's the point?

[simple hemlock]

Trades exist in smash too

[sinful gorge]

Trades exist sure, but they're so common it can basically happen every hit

True trades in Smash are rare

[simple hemlock]

Huh. I don’t really experience that much
Are you and the enemy just mashing on each other a lot?

[sinful gorge]

DBZing in smash is cool because it's rare

[sage summit]

Smash's netcode has always been terrible, it's been a complaint from the community since online was introduced, it's why most tournaments are lan based as well.

[sinful gorge]

Hewre it's just a thing that can happen 10-20 times a game

[simple hemlock]

DBZing in MVS is pretty rare idk what you’re saying tbh. You can’t just force trades all the time

[warm holly]

when does raven gonna get nerfed

[simple hemlock]

20 times a match is more interactions than most characters even need to take 2/3 stocks

[analog stirrup]

Raven isn't really dominate in 1s and 2s imo
what's the problem may i ask?

[simple hemlock]

Her rage mode is wild 💀
She seems so honest and cool and then you enter rage and commit the most insane robberies you’ve ever seen

[iron silo]

I've never seen it happen tbh

[simple hemlock]

Rage mode way too over tuned that’s it

[sinful gorge]

Yeah it's probably an exageration, but there's definitely a few each match

[simple hemlock]

Raven can casually kill confirm people from 20-50 in rage

[sinful gorge]

Which is crazy when I can go game after game in smash and not have it happen once

[analog stirrup]

hmm, i can't argue that much about that
because from my exp when i mained garnet, Raven wasn't really a big problem for me, even she was in rage mode
of course sometimes it happened like u said, it's just right now Raven is kinda in the right spot imo personally

[warm holly]

maybe his ground neutral, ground side, ground up, ground down, nair, sair, up air, down air, special ground neutral, special ground side, special ground up, special ground down, special nair, special sair, special up air, special down air

her*

[lime ingot]

I mean, yeah, when you have no endlag, it's tough to get hit

[warm holly]

bro didnt saw a raven spamming neutral ground and the up special spam against jasons 😭😭

[sinful gorge]

Just finished a round, 4 trades happened

[simple hemlock]

I was sparring someone earlier and they clipped a really silly linen I got with rage. I’ll post it in #clips in a moment

[analog stirrup]

one thing that i annoyed from her is her aerial playstyle

[warm holly]

his fully charged neutral ground hitbox is ridiculous

I was 100km away from this and got hit and lost with 70 dmg

[sinful gorge]

Also, why did they add a ground tech, but now allow you to manually tech when slammed into the ground?

Does that seem crazy to anyone else

[lime ingot]

?

[sinful gorge]

The ground tech when you're caught in a multihit combo they added to stop infinites

[warm holly]

you can choose the side

[lime ingot]

And?

[young mist]

anybody else notice they removed ppg from the fighter store? what's up with that?

[warm holly]

fighter store > fighter road

the only thing I need to say

[subtle plover]

To hard for casual players lel

[sinful gorge]

And what?

It was a complete sentence lol

[warm holly]

tbh the fighter road isnt that, it only sucks bc we cant choose our fighter

[lime ingot]

They added the tech, what of it?

[sinful gorge]

"but now allow you to manually tech when slammed into the ground?"

[subtle plover]

? Its still auto tech on second ground bounce?

[lime ingot]

Yeah, you just saying the same thing twice

[sinful gorge]

Have you guys played smash or nah?

[young mist]

both are bad

one is slow and sluggish and the other is slow and sluggish with the added downside of not being able to choose who you unlock

[sinful gorge]

Like if you're hit into the ground, you can dodge at the right moment when you hit the ground and tech it manually stopping the bounce

[subtle plover]

Played it yesterday because ravens shield breaker is bugged so yeah

[lone trench]

Nubia needs buffs

[sinful gorge]

That's what I mean by "Manually tech"

[simple hemlock]

I have an unholy amount of time between smash 4 and Ult

[sinful gorge]

So nah, I'm definitely not saying the same thing twice lmao

[simple hemlock]

Manual teching should exist in this game

[sinful gorge]

I agree

[sinful gorge]

Did I break it down enough for you now?

[subtle plover]

Shield play is bad with auto tech and good with manual

[simple hemlock]

Auto tech is bizarre. Feels like it strips away an aspect of two player gameplay that should never be stripped from a plat fighter

[simple hemlock]

Shield play is fine with either. It’s not really impacted

[sinful gorge]

Yeah, I feel they added it for 1v1 for infinites to make their job of balancing easier

But it's so weird not being able to do it manually

[simple hemlock]

Air shield breakers need to be a thing
If you don’t have an air grab, holding block at ledge is a bit too strong. The unintended consequence of not having a ledge to grab. But adding RPS as an air option as well solves that with current ledges

[warm holly]

this is why fighter store > fighter road lol

[lime ingot]

Cuz then there's no combos with a bounce.
Game is at a speed where teching would become guaranteed very easily

[analog dock]

ideally it has both tbh but that would be too consumer friendly

[wraith geyser]

Tbh, isnt that slow, I've been unlocking one character per day or 2.

[analog dock]

you play too much im sorry

[warm holly]

wtf you play 18h per day fr

[lime ingot]

It's just not that long lol

[young mist]

good for you, you're able to play more than 2 hours a day, what about the folks that can't?

[simple hemlock]

Combos shouldn’t primarily revolve around forcing bounces that’s kinda the point

Tho even in Ult it implements things in a way where you can still force ground bounces. If you spike a grounded enemy in Ult they can’t tech. So if that’s how it worked in MVS you could still force ground bounces by punishing a grounded burst option with a spike

It adds more layers to how these things operate.

[analog dock]

playing 100+ games per character? that is a lot

[warm holly]

tbh fighter road isnt that bad, i'm a casual player like play 2/3h per day and I got a fighter in like 1 week and half a week, the only real problem it's bc I cant choose, now I got lebron and I dont like lebron, i wanted black adam

[young mist]

neither are that great, they nailed it during the beta with gold, then WB had to go and get involved and ruin something great because they're greedy

[simple hemlock]

100 games doesn’t include the bonus exp ya get from battle pass and events tho

[wraith geyser]

I don't =0 I just play arena, that gives lotta lotta exp with boosted variants nwn

[simple hemlock]

Also variants too ye

[warm holly]

I dont have battle pass and I dont have friends to play arena

[warm holly]

.

[simple hemlock]

Save up 🧠it’s worth saving the gleam you get for free for a battle pass because it’s a one time opt in

Once you get it, it will give you all the gleamium back you bought it with +50
So you actually gain from getting the BP

[subtle plover]

It is when playing it these last 2 weekends if i could manual tech the first ground bounce it would be harder for the other player to know when i’m gonna tech and could easier go back to shield if the player plays way to aggresive

[wraith geyser]

#lfg-competitive Ask there whenever you wanna play arena =3

[warm holly]

yea on the first 2 seasons I wasted so much gleamium for nothing, now I have 415 and i'm going to get 800

[young mist]

honestly all you're doing is just highlighting another problem with the game, as it is right now there are a lot of issues with mission design and the way they're trying to incentivize you to use "boosted variants" to get more XP, frankly speaking it's anti fun and doesn't support a healthy game environment

[simple hemlock]

That’s an issue without shields too is my point tho
I don’t disagree. Manual tech should just be in 100%

[simple hemlock]

They tend to just give away the boosted variants tho

[warm holly]

like idk why they didnt released fighter road to be able to select any character, bc I can choose stripe to harley quinn, and why I cant do it to every character on the fighter road?

[simple hemlock]

True. Fighter road should be more open

[sinful gorge]

I haven't used fighter road, do you not get to pick who you go for?

[analog dock]

yeah duh, they want you to pay for the skins

[simple hemlock]

You get to pick within a tier of characters until that tier is completed I think? Idk I’ve had full roster since beta

[warm holly]

You cant choose, I got lebron but I wanted black adam, lebron was the first character on my fighter road

[subtle plover]

Alright pog tbh if the casuals struggle to understand tech then its as easy to make a toggle to either manual tech or use auto i will gladly destroy those who prefer auto tech :)

[worn ferry]

Welp I'm stuck waiting on my car to defrost what up mv chat

[warm holly]

but idk why I can change stripe to get harley quinn and the other characters no

lebron was fr the last character i was going to buy, so hard to play with him

[worn ferry]

Ah we talking about fighter road. It's great. I unlocked everyone so fast

[subtle plover]

Shields are coming and there won’t be split playlists with and without shields its gonna be 100% shields

[worn ferry]

Ugh shields....

[warm holly]

Dont come shields 😭😭 please

shaggy is already broken without shields 😭😭

[simple hemlock]

Shields are awesome. I’m so glad they’re coming

[warm holly]

😵‍💫

[simple hemlock]

Shaggy is literally nerfed by shields
You can test how safe moves are in custom lobbies what

[lone trench]

Cant wait aslong as they don’t allow these toptiers to literally shield 0.1 second after an attack

[warm holly]

i dont like shields

[young mist]

I'm aware of that, my point was that it goes against what you as a customer/player deserve, which is to be given a choice, why should I be forced to play [insert character] to finish an arbitrary mission or have to use a boosted variant to get more XP?

the funny thing is that all these problems existed during the open beta, and we communicated that with PFG and they fixed it. they made the missions more streamlined so that you could enjoy the game however you want with whichever character you want, but that was in the beta, if only they would change the missions back to how they were

[warm holly]

they gonna shield every attack and do a jab jab down jab jab shoryuken 😭

and you got to 0 to 99999 dmg

[fluid chasm]

Hold up let him cook

[subtle plover]

Nakat was in a vc last weekend and pretty much confirmed its gonna be a mechanic across the board when its rdy

[simple hemlock]

No. Because you can’t jab oos quickly at all lololol
Bro have you even actually played with shields???

Shaggy jab and side b aren’t safe on block at all

[worn ferry]

Yall realize all those characters who are top tier/annoying like Spamurai Wack who already have zero whiff on their missed moves are about to be even harder to punish for their mistakes w shields right? Like shields are not gonna improve the game they bring nothing to the table that compensates all the bad that comes w them.

[lone trench]

Shields probably gonna kill the game

[left tusk]

Bhands been running tournaments with them and they have been very fun to watch

[lone trench]

^

[sinful gorge]

The characters with grabs are going to love spam shields though

[subtle plover]

For me it made me motivated to play again but ravens shield break is bugged and can’t break shields so imma stick to smash until she is fixed

[fluid chasm]

Damn ain't like my main got 6 of them

[simple hemlock]

This is an insane and backwards take only someone who’s never touched shields ever would come to this conclusion

[wraith geyser]

I love shields and I can't wait for em nwn! They are very useful in smash brothers, it makes low-tiers to be able to win against top-tiers 😄

[warm holly]

If they add shields i'll prob quit the game, and it not gonna be only me

[analog dock]

already waiting 5 minutes for arena

[fluid chasm]

Shields in MvS kills zoners

[simple hemlock]

You literally can punish samurai Jack on shield. You do understand moves can be unsafe on block right???

[lone trench]

Bunch of people will, it will make fast characters top tier

[simple hemlock]

Most jabs are unsafe on block if not all of them

[fluid chasm]

LeBron is cooked

[subtle plover]

100% agree shields are healthy its just that mvs players don’t want defense because their broken stuff can’t be spammed anymore

[lone trench]

Aslong as they nerf endlag and add shields I’m fine

[simple hemlock]

Like what are you even talking about when you say shield makes things harder to punish
It’s literally the opposite.

[subtle plover]

Back to the beta we go

[fluid chasm]

Jason against shields will be fine

Easy free grab

[warm holly]

i didnt played beta lol

[wraith geyser]

I used to second Megaman and Im pretty sure shield weren't a problem for him. Eventually everypony will feel comfy using em im sure nwn

[subtle plover]

Its gonna be the only place that has none shield when shields are rdy in the main game :)

[lone trench]

Makes characters who have no whiff harder to punish. An Arya with a shield would literally be crazy

[simple hemlock]

Shields make things easier to punish.
Instead of having to dodge and run away all the time you can actually inch in on the enemy and punish unsafe attacks out of shield or read the enemy shields with a breaker

The mechanic adds a layer to the game it desperately needs. The playerbase says it hates how spammy many attacks are block is literally the solution to that

[fluid chasm]

Megaman does have leaf shield as a shield poke but other zoners in smash can struggle unless they get good pressure

[simple hemlock]

You’re lying . Outright lying I literally played an Arya in state with shields the other day

Arya down tilt and jab aren’t safe on block
Down tilt is super punishable
Quit lying and actually go test the mechanic just once

[lone trench]

They probably weren’t good. Arya is only broken if the player knows how to play them

[wraith geyser]

There will be shield breakers in MvS, we are fine =3

[fluid chasm]

Let armor break just be a shield break and not another button

[simple hemlock]

They’re definitely good
Arya is literally a top 5 character in 1s right now what are you saying

[slow remnant]

Ppl who clip for clout are losers

[left tusk]

Very true. I feel like people found the lack of shields unique, but sometimes, you just can’t make a sandwich without the bread

[warm holly]

bro pls tell me why joker and shaggy have the same weight that wonder woman and black adam, like wtf bro 😭😭 I hate this

[lone trench]

I never said Arya wasn’t good, I said the player wasn’t good.

[wraith geyser]

Maybe adding grabs to MvS would make it even funnier, I want shield, grabs and directional tilts, just like in smash. That would make the game more balanced =3

[fluid chasm]

This game is becoming smash honestly with a mix of brawlhalla

[warm holly]

idk, I just want to know why shaggy and joker have the same weight of Wonder Woman (TANK) since season 1.

[subtle plover]

Just like nakat said shields are a normal mechanic in fighers thats just how it is

[lime ingot]

Shields just seem superfluous from what I've played.

They aren't gonna add that much for most players, it'll make it harder for newcomers and it's just another button I'll have to bind.

If shields do come, I'm gonna be a bit bummed since the game works perfectly fine without them and adding them doesn't seem like it'd solve what top players are complaining about.

Not to mention we're then gonna hear the same people wanting shields, complain about character balance since the game was not built for shields and we'll be starting over from 0 with balance.

[lone trench]

What’s makes it similar to Brawlhalla

[simple hemlock]

You’re making an assumption about my training partners skill based on nothing. I’ll make an assumption based on your clear ignorance lol
You’ve clearly never used shields or in fact aren’t good with them yourself.

[fluid chasm]

Mid air platforms no ledges to grab and wall fatigue

[simple hemlock]

If you used shields you’d know you were lying and that Arya is unsafe on block in a lot of cases

[blissful saffron]

Fair point

[fluid chasm]

Plus burnout

[subtle plover]

Nah i kinda like to see mvs way of countering shields but if shield breakers don’t work well in the future then grabs would be nice yeah

[wraith geyser]

And Im glad bout that, we need more smash mechanics. We need grabs and tilts too 😄

[lone trench]

I have used shields, Infact shields benefit my main a lot. But it benefits characters with better framedata even more.

I want to you to fight actual good Harley and arya players so you can see for yourself

[simple hemlock]

I like the way breakers work
It’s like rivals 2 where the enemy pops up and u have until they bounce to hit them for a follow-up

[fluid chasm]

Nah we really don't I'm not ready for chain grabs

And this game already has tilts they just made them basically smash attacks

[simple hemlock]

I have literally gone game 3 with girphquake in bracket and beat grand masters who are you? 😭

[wraith geyser]

The game is always patching bugs, that wouldn't be a problem, don't worries =>

[subtle plover]

They will prob have a balanced patch around shield play when its ready

[reef quest]

Why is it so hard to kill with Velma’s megaphone sometimes

[lone trench]

Your flexing going into set 3 with a pro and beating grandmasters 💔💀

[simple hemlock]

You told me to play good Harley players and I gave an example dog

[blissful saffron]

Depends on how you charge it or the range between you and ur opponent (i think)

[subtle plover]

For now i do agree it feels nice and powerful when using it as a punish tool mechanic

[simple hemlock]

I’m not flexing. you are accusing me of being bad lol

[warm holly]

played a custom match against a hard shaggy bot with shields, and it doesnt feel so bad tbh, but hard bots sucks asf

[fluid chasm]

Not really a bug more of game breaking mechanic

[analog dock]

demo

[lone trench]

@ me where I said that lmao

[lime ingot]

I mean
You are :3

[lone trench]

Ur the one that’s assuming it

[simple hemlock]

You told me before this too that the Arya player I fought in shields had to be bad. No you’re just wrong
Like objectively some of her attacks are unsafe on block and if you used them you’d know this

[warm holly]

Can I send lightshot images here?

[subtle plover]

You gotta get used to playing with shields because i’m coming from smash this feels all normal to me i just gotta practice mvs way of shield play and it has been pretty fun so far

[simple hemlock]

Like who are you to be speaking like this? You’re just lying about how safe moves are and calling anyone who disagrees bad lol

[lone trench]

Yea she had to be bad or not know how to use shields correctly. If you don’t see a problem with Arya and shields then it’s either two of those options

[lone trench]

Dude I never called you bad, stop Lying

[reef quest]

It’s nearly impossible to get kills with it, your better off using her camera to get kills

[warm holly]

Before multiversus final release (I didnt played beta), I played Flash Party, it has shields, and I liked it tbh

I only play free games 😦

[lone trench]

Saying the opponents doesn’t know what they are doing ≠ calling YOU bad

[subtle plover]

Fair enough :p

[warm holly]

Can i send images via lightshot? bc I cant send via discord

[blissful saffron]

I’ve gotten kills with it I mean yea it’s hard but I don’t think it’s a kill move

[warm holly]

here on the chat

[simple hemlock]

You called the Arya bad
He’s my training partner you know nothing about him.

[wraith geyser]

Tbh most of the hate I have seen about shields is cuz some playes dont wanna get used to shields and learn how to use them. Its finne, Im pretty sure eventually all players will feel comfy with shield nwn

[simple hemlock]

You are also saying I’m not fighting good people at all to get proper experience then I gave you examples of good players I fought

[lone trench]

Do you have schizophrenia?

[simple hemlock]

Are you incapable of being honest

[left tusk]

Can’t have peanut butter and jelly without bread

[simple hemlock]

“I want you to fight actual good Harley and Arya players”
“The Arya probably wasn’t good”

“Are you crazy I never said that”
Blatant gaslighting over multiversus is insanity lol

[lone trench]

Yes so what did those text have to do with your skill?

[warm holly]

i'll try to send a image on lightshot only to see if i can

[simple hemlock]

You’re saying that I just don’t have the experience to make accurate claims
Meanwhile you’re actively lying about what is and isn’t safe

[reef quest]

It seems like it after the many times I’ve used it, your just better off using the camera or her up smash (the lightbulb ofc)

[warm holly]

https://prnt.sc/dqiR3AD0PHi5

yea i cant lol

[iron silo]

What's happening this time?

[lone trench]

Ok so the fact you went set 3 with a pro and beaten grandmaster you don’t agree that characters with less whiff benefit more from shields?

[warm holly]

shields discussion i think, idk

[wraith geyser]

Mental illnesses/illnesses should not be used as pejorative adjectives, pretty please =c We should never insult 😔

[simple hemlock]

Your reading comprehension is abysmal

[warm holly]

Hey @wraith geyser did you saw that image? banana guard with shields it's so cute

[iron silo]

Shields would be neat I guess.

[simple hemlock]

YOU told me to get good practice if I think certain fighters are punishable OoS
I gave you an example of good fighters

You’re the one who accused me of lacking experience lol

[lone trench]

Im pretty sure that’s the entire reason why you are arguing with me, because of this statement

[simple hemlock]

Arya with shield isn’t crazy bc her stuff isn’t safe on block you’re literally incapable of reading and processing information yikes

[lone trench]

ok

[warm holly]

yea i was thinking it would be bad but I played against a hard shaggy bot with shields and it was really fun

[lone trench]

ok

[iron silo]

That would be crazy, they should increase whiff for her

[simple hemlock]

Whiff data and block data aren’t the same you just don’t seem capable of comprehending this

[lone trench]

Yea I even said before shields would be better if the nerfed some characters framedata

[wraith geyser]

Aww he is indeed adorable =3! 💗

[simple hemlock]

Again. Whiff data and block data aren’t the same 💀
Do you need glasses?

[lone trench]

ok

[simple hemlock]

You called me a schizophrenic and you’re actually just unable to process what’s being said to you

[lone trench]

ok

[iron silo]

How long have you two been going at this argument?

[lone trench]

Even tho the entire argument started because I was talking about framedata and not blocking 💀💀💀

[simple hemlock]

We were talking about shields
Multiple people were

[subtle plover]

100%

[lone trench]

It started by me saying it would benefit characters with no whiff yes or no?

[simple hemlock]

It was about shields you bafoon

[wraith geyser]

But mental illnesses should not be used as pejorative adjectives =c

[simple hemlock]

It wouldn’t tho

This is where you’re wrong
Because whiff data and shield data aren’t the same
Please properly read and process that sentence

A move can be safer on whiff than block

[lone trench]

^ this was the first message I replied to you with.
Shields + whiff, as you can see this message is not edited too

Im sure you got confused somewhere

[simple hemlock]

Moves ARE safer on whiff than block in some cases. Like the Arya you claimed would be more broken lol

It doesn’t make them harder to punish

You literally have a shield breaker if they hold block

[lone trench]

Mb

[simple hemlock]

Shield drop frames are thing you can’t just jab out of block quickly
You’d know this if you actually bothered using the mechanic and tinkering with it

[slow remnant]

Ngl 99% of the community of multiversus is straight bunzz

[subtle plover]

Makes sense most of them are afraid of a healthy defense mechanic :/

[slow remnant]

Everyone got superiority complex just cause they’re GM

That doesn’t equate to real life

[warm holly]

gm is grandmaster?

[lone trench]

You can do it quick enough to not worry about getting punished as much as you normally would. I would advise to watching Bhands shields tournaments

[lone trench]

^ yea GM doesn’t mean anything

It’s literally how much you play and your winrate

[simple hemlock]

No one said Gm meant anything. You told me to find good practice. Frankly I don’t think your practice is that great with the takes given to me 😭

[analog dock]

@wraith geyser youre right, just got 2.2k fighter road exp from arena

[simple hemlock]

80% win rate last season in masters on Taz
Got the screen shot too 🗣️

[warm holly]

I dont even play ranked lol, if a gm comes to me with superiority complex i'll laugh of them

[lone trench]

Good job?

[subtle plover]

Go settle it in a 1v1 with shields :)

[lone trench]

I would if I could play rn

[simple hemlock]

I just grind it to masters for the skins then grind lobbies in competitive cord

[wraith geyser]

Yaaaay, im glad 🥳 🎉 Arena is the quickiest way of getting characters nwn

[subtle plover]

Sad times

[simple hemlock]

Wise dodge

[lone trench]

Oh boy

[subtle plover]

XD

[lone trench]

Are u eu? I can play tomorrow or maybe in a couple of hours

[supple panther]

Taz’s tornado move and cloud move is so annoying 😭

[simple hemlock]

US East

[lone trench]

Just Great.

[warm holly]

shaggy's side special:

[subtle plover]

Shields will fix the problem

[simple hemlock]

Dogpile is just a little cancer I won’t lie
Being able to cancel it on whiff AND it lingering so long makes it kinda wild for traps and mixups

[supple panther]

Even worse

[lone trench]

And what about his nair? Literally his best move

[simple hemlock]

Nair is just over tuned to hell

[warm holly]

do you guys only play mvs?

[simple hemlock]

If taz nair connected as consistently as WWs nair he’d break the meta 💀
Fortunately tho sometimes mfs just be poppin out

[lone trench]

Barely punishable too

[tall blade]

guys tips for farming the new event?

[simple hemlock]

Nair definitely needs whiff

[subtle plover]

Yes mostly

[rain tapir]

[lone trench]

I mean I have more priority over it with my sidespecial but when ever I’m on another character that’s not Nubia I can’t punish it

[warm holly]

dodge an attack: 🤓
block with shields: 🤓
parry it: 😎

[jovial dove]

This move is too slow, readable and can be easily armored against to even be great in 1s. Its not even his best move in general.

[unreal gyro]

Morning

[warm holly]

shaggy main for sure

[subtle plover]

Shields

[simple hemlock]

Rage side b is the evil move. Normal side b is kinda just okay tbh
Prolly one of the easier moves to parry in the game

[unreal gyro]

Been working on my parry game a lot, going well so far.

[simple hemlock]

Everyone needs to get their parry stocks up. reminder: the fastest attack you’re really dealing with in MVS outside like BA side B, are a handful of frame 9 jabs
Everything else is frame 10+
If you train your eyes properly parry in MvS is super good. Moves are just so much more reactable

[lone trench]

Just neutral dodge after purpose whiffing your no whiff move. Do this a lot of times it will make people try to punish you less

[warm holly]

why no1 talks about shaggy sair? one of the most broken attacks of the game

[subtle plover]

It got buffed so fair enough

[jovial dove]

I would know this cause i spend more time using Sandwiches, his knee strike for kills and his jab, they are all better tools for him. Shaggy's kick is only good against scrubs.

[unreal gyro]

I was already familiar with parries because of smash and rivals, i just need to readjust for mvs lol

[subtle plover]

What about shields?

[warm holly]

shaggy sair is broken

[simple hemlock]

Real

[warm holly]

you can ringout a bugs bunny from the middle of the map with 77 dmg with sair fully charged (you only need 1,5s to fully charged it)

@jovial dove what's your opinion about shaggy and joker have the same weight that wonder woman? (she's a tank)

there is no way to say it is fair

[unreal gyro]

Know how to use those already because of me playing smash for over a decade.

[grave umbra]

The sourspot is also crazy strong for some reason

[subtle plover]

Pog

[unreal gyro]

Ngl the only issue i have with shaggy kick is it killing ridiculously early and the sourspot still hitting like a truck

[amber socket]

if someone leaves in a ranked game and you get disconnected do you still get the ranked points?

[iron silo]

It has a sweet spot??

[tall blade]

joker still a menace WTF

ALL THEY SPAM JUST FLOWER and running away

[unreal gyro]

P sure

[tall blade]

huh iirc it doesnt have sweet spot

[unreal gyro]

Not really sure because i don't really play Shaggy

If he had a non lame ass meme moveset i 100% would

[fluid chasm]

Only shaggy fair has a sweetspot

[wraith geyser]

Does somepony else has getting PC or console crashing just while playing Multiversus? pwp

Idk if it is truly the game or Windows 11, lol

[unreal gyro]

windows 11 on steam and i havent crashed at all this season

[sharp moon]

you got a clip

[fluid chasm]

Arya's only go for airwalker

[tulip bluff]

joker is pretty strong right now lol, tickletoe showed me a joker tech read combo which is barely escapable

does like 60 damage until the opponent can escape

and you can continue it after 60

[sharp moon]

How bout sharing this tech

[tulip bluff]

its easy lol, jab jab IAD nair special

[tall blade]

i never clipped my game sadly

[tulip bluff]

and just continue doing that

[sharp moon]

show it in a clip how it does online

[tall blade]

the joker i just faced just did FLOWER into jab jab down up its literally undodgeable somehow

[sharp moon]

how tf do you do flower into jab

[tall blade]

the stun is so long af...

[wraith geyser]

Your PC has crashed before while playing mvs =c?

[tall blade]

oh wait he also use the boxing glove but i forgot the timing

[fluid chasm]

Arya actually needs nerfs and frame changes

How tf they avoid her for many patches

[rain tapir]

arya has much better framedata then velma, make that make sense

[tall blade]

@fluid chasmarya bug the cancel STILL possible btw

[fluid chasm]

Wtf

[unreal gyro]

oh yeah plenty of times

[fluid chasm]

And Arya has a true 0 to 53 percent combo like what

[unreal gyro]

arya is literallly the most boring character to watch imo

[lone trench]

Any mage

[rain tapir]

and she has win neutral for free tools and she kills in like 80

[iron silo]

I haven't seen anyone play Arya in months

[fluid chasm]

And she's so safe

[unreal gyro]

nah rick is sick

[rain tapir]

thats why they had to urgently nerf velma, she was the problem all along

[iron silo]

Most people I see play Batman or banana guard or Jack.

[stark jetty]

Ranked truth sucks

[unreal gyro]

basically anyone can be cool if ur creative, but aryas play the exact same every time

[lone trench]

I hope mid season something changes

[rain tapir]

i have a feeling that we will have the exact same meta once again

[grave umbra]

Crazy that backpack meeseeks is uncontestable

[tall blade]

yes SOMEHOW THE BUG THEY TOLD IT GOT FIXED.... STILL POSSIBLE

[zenith agate]

Gotta gut all her hitstun

[unreal gyro]

Arya mains try not to airwalker ladder you every stock challenge (impossible!)

[fluid chasm]

They won't

[lone trench]

I’m gonna learn a different character. For secondary

[heavy axle]

i get home from town later, i wanna play multiversus

[rain tapir]

play velma

[zenith agate]

Jab dair jab nair jab dtilt jab facesteal jab sair jab uptilt jab upspecial jab side special jab dspecial

[unreal gyro]

Ngl please just remove air walker all together, it's so unhealthy

[zenith agate]

She has too much off her jab

[heavy axle]

i haven’t played in 2 days…..i feel like a addict

[zenith agate]

Finn

[unreal gyro]

Have you tried Raven? With enough brainpower she becomes super dope

[keen iron]

I need 11 more xp in welcome to mythic vista

[unreal gyro]

I sniped someone using the rock and Lenore once

[keen iron]

And birb

[unreal gyro]

BIRD UP

[fluid chasm]

Literally

[worn ferry]

Taz like Lenore yum

[lone trench]

I haven’t played her at all. I might try her out

[fluid chasm]

you telling me buttercup side b doesn't kill at 116 wtf

What crack are the devs smoking

[keen iron]

Try mystic vista beforehand so you can get a feel

Can someone help with muthic vista event

[wraith geyser]

Oh, I thought it was just me PC, thankies for answering. Its weird cuz my game almost always runs smoothly at 200fps, I don't know why it crashes the pc pwp

[heavy axle]

heyy chat

[tall blade]

@fluid chasm i got the clip

[keen iron]

Looking for mythic vista

[grave umbra]

Hiya

[fluid chasm]

Can I see it

[tall blade]

dms

[fluid chasm]

Alright

[unreal gyro]

Oh wait it crashes your entire system?? I only had actual game crashes, never my whole system just dying on me

Crazy how 2 times in a row the non elusives (minus joker, literally top 10 skin ever) have been better, alnost like they know these skins wouldn't sell well so they used fomo...

[tulip bluff]

@lone trench game crashed

[fluid chasm]

I hate Arya bug even more

[stark jetty]

Not that I'll be staying in the rank, but finally got diamond 3 again

[fluid chasm]

She's became the Steve of this game

[lone trench]

Bro got scared 😤

[unreal gyro]

I find it funny how arya mains think they're cool as hell for using 2 moves and dragging you across the stage like they're imputting actual command imputs 😭

[warm holly]

guuuud morning c:

[grave umbra]

Good morning wildcard

[tulip bluff]

next time we go against you, gonna be unleashing my alpha

[fluid chasm]

Gud morning 🥳

[unreal gyro]

Morning, Wildcard <3

[warm holly]

sup franklin 🤝

[fluid chasm]

Lmao and then they use a immune hitstun bug thinking it takes skill

[lone trench]

Don’t waste your time our Jason + Nubia comp is too strong 🥱

[warm holly]

i just had to wash two days of greasy thanksgiving stuff :,,)

[unreal gyro]

WAIT SHE CAN PMLG???

[grave umbra]

Oh god, the grease

[warm holly]

Haannnaaa!!!!!!🗣️ 🔊

[fluid chasm]

I'll send the video in DMS Froxy sent it to me

[warm holly]

my mom tells me to use like cleaning supplies for it but i’m like.. there’s no way that’s healthy 😭

[fluid chasm]

Yeah she can

[grave umbra]

Me omw to use the bleach and fabuloso on the dishes

[warm holly]

NOOOOOISUDUSJSDIUDDKK 💀 WE EAT ON THOSE

[grave umbra]

🤣

[analog stirrup]

cupcakes?

[unreal gyro]

Just destroy the dishes, no need to wash em if you don't have any :]

[warm holly]

what? where? 🐶

[warm holly]

We listen and we don’t judge 😍

[analog stirrup]

If you want it, just go to the jail, and w8 until she comes to you

[unreal gyro]

Ik someone irl that hates dishes so much he lives off of paper/plastic plates and cups it's insane

[fluid chasm]

Bruh it takes 5 minutes to wash dishes

[spiral mantle]

I'm close to reaching the final goal in the Battle pass! ♥️

[warm holly]

WHAT IS U TALKIN ABOUT

[unreal gyro]

THAT'S WHAT I SAID TOO 😭

[fluid chasm]

The laziness is insane

[analog stirrup]

oh come on, i just joking with reference

[spiral mantle]

Marceline would be likely a Bruiser or assassin?

[stark jetty]

Tank

[warm holly]

i mean that’s not really a bad thing just not really cost effective

[unreal gyro]

Idrc what she is, she's my full main frame 1 of her release

[warm holly]

what is the cupcake reference i confusion

[analog stirrup]

Arcane reference

[warm holly]

bruiser or tank

[warm holly]

omg i thought of that but i was like no way 😭 ur awesome +20 💚

[unreal gyro]

I saw that she has a playing bass emote, hoping it's like Marvin so i can Weezer people

[bold canyon]

@warm holly yo did u see the new ppg emote

[unreal gyro]

Bedtime PPGs is such a cute skin man...

[warm holly]

WHEEEEEEERRRRRE

[warm holly]

except for the toenails and blossoms eye bugging yea it’s great

[fluid chasm]

DMS babes

[frail fern]

Mage or assassin

[tulip bluff]

yall only won that first round because we sold!!! next time my alpha will overthrone your beast

[rain tapir]

we lost that because my first stock was gone due to a insanely disjointed grab

[warm holly]

I JUST SAW IT LMAOOOOOOOO I NEED IT SO BAD THAT SHOULDVE BEEN PRESTIGE

[bold canyon]

I REALLY HOPE ITS NOT LEGENDARY I DONT WANNA SPEND 1K GLEAMIUM 😭

[warm holly]

THATS AN INNNNNNNSTANT COP BRO ITS SO FUNNY

[fluid chasm]

Where's love makes the world go round I wanted that badly

That should have been in day 1

[wraith geyser]

Yup, it has been crashing my PC since season 2. It happens almost every week pwp

[bold canyon]

I wonder what's gonna happen if you use it on the rowdyruffs tho?

I hope they don't change it cause that'd be hilarious 💀

[warm holly]

it’ll be 20x better

[drowsy wharf]

Guys. I just installed multiversus

[glacial spear]

what’s the emote

[fluid chasm]

I hope they blow raspberries at you

[drowsy wharf]

And Idk how to play against other players can someone help me out?

[spiral mantle]

That can make sense! 👍

[unreal gyro]

WAIT WHAT IS IT I CANT GET ON ATM

[warm holly]

ITS NOT OUT YETTT!!

[drowsy wharf]

Can someone help me pls

[glacial spear]

[warm holly]

you do the tutorial, fight a few bots and eventually youll get real peeps!

they do that so it’s a funner time for new players

[drowsy wharf]

There isn't the option to play against real ppl wait lemme send you the ss

[warm holly]

sure

[drowsy wharf]

Should I sent it here?

[warm holly]

it’s an automatic thing tho

[warm holly]

you can’t

[glacial spear]

you have casual queue ?

[drowsy wharf]

K I'ma dm you

[warm holly]

[unreal gyro]

Praying its not legendary...

Just saw it, actually adorable

[warm holly]

IKR

[wraith geyser]

Can you show it to me, pretty please =0? I love PPG cosmetics 🤗

[unreal gyro]

Please don't change it for the rowdy ruff boys it'd be so funny

[lone trench]

Balanced Jason grab*

[warm holly]

I WISH THEY WERENT A PAIN IN THE BUM TO PLAY

[glacial spear]

quite balanced innit

[unreal gyro]

I main Jason, air grab is really fun but genuinely so busted it's insane

[glacial spear]

his kit is criminally fun

[rain tapir]

i was practically above him and it hit me somehow

[glacial spear]

Jason tings

[night perch]

Arenas is so funny, tell me how me and my teammate made a team go from 30 to -5

They were getting strangled 😭

[lone trench]

Why do u sound so British ☕️

[wraith geyser]

I have been using them lotta lotta in arena and they feel really different now pwp

[warm holly]

You rubbed off on me 👄

[unreal tulip]

[warm holly]

;-; i knoww eeeekkkkkk

[rain tapir]

[slow remnant]

Bruh its crazy how you gotta jam the stick and mash to consider yourself top tier

Got dammit

[unreal tulip]

You gotta do what?

[unreal gyro]

Owning the full roster is lowkey rlly dope

[iron silo]

True, we finish the pass faster

[fluid chasm]

Welp I'll have enough for Marceline after I get joker to level 15

[glacial spear]

can’t be bothered with purchasing/grinding the roster

bollocks design

[unreal gyro]

True

[indigo nebula]

I'm doing it on an alt account

Through half the roster rn in 2 weeks approximately

[wraith geyser]

That remembered how I broked my 3ds joystick cuz of Smash Bros 3DS online haha x>

[glacial spear]

unreal

[slow remnant]

Did your thumb hurt?

[indigo nebula]

But it is real, the first two weeks were even without a boost skin

Now I have a boost skin so it'll literally go twice as fast

[unreal gyro]

I can already buy Marcy with Gleamium but i'm gonna buy the 30 dollar ea bundle

[lone trench]

How much of playtime?

[indigo nebula]

58 hours or so rn

When the second week ended was about 50 hours

[lone trench]

Ok it’s not too bad. Imma get an alt

[glacial spear]

Jason is enough for me

[indigo nebula]

WhyDo a youtuber claimed one character took 39 hours

[wraith geyser]

No, I mean, it stopped working correctly (it drifted) because of smash. I didn't really broked it lol

[unreal gyro]

The 5 dollar gleamium bundles helped a lot unlocking everyone tho

[indigo nebula]

Back when the FC system was there

[fluid chasm]

I'll wait for it to show the gleamium price before I do it

[lone trench]

Dawg was grinding in training mode😭

[lone trench]

Oh it was long but not that Long

[unreal gyro]

Very fair, i'm just impatient as hell for Marceline lmao

[fluid chasm]

I'll buy her first then the battle pass later

[indigo nebula]

Yea but still, system now is better for people who want the entire roster, old one was better for buying only specific characters

[wraith geyser]

Yup, unlocking characters now is really really fast =0 but some players still says it isn't =c

[indigo nebula]

With a boost skin it's 50 won games

[warm holly]

do u know how to change ur age on ur wb account or u can’t

[wraith geyser]

In arena that would be like 10 matches or 5, very fast 😄

[lone trench]

I still think they should allow you to get specific characters. Or atleast do like class roads where you have to unlock all of mage or something

[unreal gyro]

Same, the concept of fighter road is peak, it just has huge flaws

[warm holly]

it also looks like they’ve taken out characters in events which i thought was NEAT

[sullen agate]

yeah

[glacial spear]

[fluid chasm]

I don't sorry

[unreal tulip]

try waiting a year, it will sure change

[warm holly]

byeeeee

[warm holly]

rip np

[unreal gyro]

Raven is easily the coolest dc rep in mvs, not even close

[sweet valve]

I better reinstall before the game goes offline and I never get to play it again

[warm holly]

lmao got matched with the banana guard that just rage quit 😭 awkwerrrrddd

[sweet valve]

Let's be fr it's a matter of when and not if at this point if they cancelled dlc 3 for MK1

Let's just enjoy the last bits of content this game has left

[solid badge]

Idc about mk1 now.

[sweet valve]

WB does, and that's the thing.

In their eyes, they are losing millions to every live service they have ever put out. Because that's what is happening

They needed to develop their own services instead of copying aspects of Fortnite, MK1 i think avoided that but was still greedy in the end

[plush python]

plays smallest violin

[coarse lantern]

yeah it happens a lot... 😔

[lone trench]

He said it took 50h to get half the rooster, then assuming to get every character in order it would be 100h of just doing the fighter road missions.

I’ve been playing since the beta and I haven’t reached 600h on the game yet, that is just way to long of a time especially if you want to play a newer character

[solid badge]

Well they should've put in Ash Williams instead ghostface, but oh well.

[sweet valve]

I think this game would have done way better financially if the skins were half price

[warm holly]

😅😅 close game too!

[unreal gyro]

thats my main issue, u should be able to pick who you're unlocking.

[sweet valve]

But even if the skins were changed to be a quarter of the price I doubt it would save the game

Just too little too late at this point

[lone trench]

Imagine a new player downloaded the game to play raven(one of their favourite character). Now they gotta spend 100h doing missions to unlock her????

I doubt they would still play

[unreal gyro]

"why are you so freaking negative all the time?" -Chris Griffin.

[fluid chasm]

Real alt account I want the jonkler

[unreal gyro]

if i had to unlock the entire roster for Marcy as a newcomer i would NOT be playing

[lone trench]

I got an alt and I can’t play Nubia

[coarse lantern]

thats the reason why i don't use badges because sometimes people will ragequit even before the fight started 😢

[sweet valve]

Right, because wanting to play the game while it's still here means I am being negative to be negative

[solid badge]

Lol

[sweet valve]

Ignore the people that legit dance on games' graves and spread misinfo

Let's target me for being slightly bummed at how the game I once had hope for turned out

Seems legit

[coarse lantern]

why this community is so negative lmaooo

[unreal gyro]

time to grind some raven, wooo

[warm holly]

:,,( saddddd

[lone trench]

Same

[coarse lantern]

you still use the ppg?

[warm holly]

yesss maaaammm

[solid badge]

I have no clue

[unreal gyro]

i have full finn badges, half the time i get salted it feels like out of spite of playing finn, even if i'm not using em

[sweet valve]

because even if i want the game to be better and say so out loud there are some people convinced no matter what that there are people biased against the game that play anyways even if that makes no sense

gotta pull any and all excuses to handwave the criticisms, if they criticize that means they hate the game, totally doesn't mean they just wanted a better game

lol

[glacial spear]

Finn is outrageously lethal for no reason whatsoever

[maiden cloud]

Agreed

[sweet valve]

i could easily turn it around and say "why can't this community accept criticism" but it is stupid to say anything about a community like it is some hivemind of connected brains that all think the same thing

[fluid chasm]

What's up with the wonder woman when I play jonkler

[sweet valve]

communities are made of people and people have differing views and opinions, not that complicated

[fluid chasm]

Stop spawning pls

[maiden cloud]

@sweet valve agreed

[unreal gyro]

100% maining raven with marcy and finn this character is sm fun

[coarse lantern]

the problem is not having negative opinions about the game, the problem is how the people says it most of the time, saying the game is going to die and is doomed, stuff like that

[native plover]

The ppg went from hydrogen bomb to coughing baby

[coarse lantern]

is always good to give feedback but there is a point where people just says stuff because they can

[solid badge]

But Marceline ain't out yet.

[sweet valve]

i mean that's just sadly factual at this point if MK1's dlc 3 got cancelled, it's MORTAL KOMBAT. It's just one of those "sad but true" things

[coarse lantern]

kind of

[hallow hill]

Anyone down to run thru the newest Story mode for the event?

[coarse lantern]

mortal kombat 1 doesn't even have an active community tbh, that game was a failure since it was released

[sharp moon]

[coarse lantern]

at least for what i saw, mvs has an active community that (most of the times) tries to give feedback in a possitive way

[glacial spear]

do NOT buff shaggy

[rancid jackal]

Funny you say that bc more ppl have played mk1 this month than mvs

[coarse lantern]

on steam

[torpid barn]

Cant you make a similar argument for mk? What if there is a secret 1000000000 players on mk on console rn

[unreal gyro]

if you rely on harley nair, sair and up b ur not a real harley main, just saying

[sweet valve]

I'm sure they have a semi active discord and twitter community like we do

[rancid jackal]

Most likely all platforms

[torpid barn]

Yeah this

[sweet valve]

feedback that gets ignored half the time

[hallow hill]

Anyone down to run Mythic Vista Story on crushing for the event?

[torpid barn]

But ultimately we have no way of telling

[sweet valve]

have they even discounted skins 10% across the board yet?

[maiden cloud]

Does anyone main iron giant?

[sweet valve]

they NEED to discount and just will not by any means

[torpid barn]

There are some good black friday deals in the featured bundles but thats it

[warm holly]

@cunning spoke ur so bad brpo

[sweet valve]

Stores don't survive and thrive by charging full price and more than competitors

That's just not how the industry or capitalism works

[rancid jackal]

The Black Friday mvs deals suck

[torpid barn]

The mvs store is pretty garbage

They need better deals if they want people to spend on that

[sweet valve]

WB just really needed to do their own thing instead of trying to be like Fortnite, because when they add those systems the comparisons are inevitable

[eager idol]

I used to why

[rancid jackal]

Mvs store couldn’t sell crack to an addict that’s how bad the store is

[sweet valve]

and when you compare it, it's just not worth it in MVS

[maiden cloud]

Lf a duo for ranked that's what my main normally runs with lol

[coarse lantern]

i never said nothing about the amount of players, when i first talked about the community i was refering to actual online presence lmao

[sweet valve]

Did yall know that the Man in Black/Rock's Black Adam was not only a similar price in Fortnite, but it was CHEAPER than the skin in MVS, a game with less detailed skins?

Stuff like this is why I say we NEED discounts

[solid badge]

Because you already owned the fighters from past seasons?

[coarse lantern]

we don't know

[eager idol]

Sorry but id sooner kill myself than play iron giant again

[sweet valve]

What's the difference

[maiden cloud]

Lmao he's not that bad is he?

[eager idol]

He is

[torpid barn]

I was kinda referring to the player count thing that the other guy brought up

[maiden cloud]

My duo is sub 150 with him that's insane lmao

[solid badge]

It can't be that hard.

[fluid chasm]

If you main wonder woman you have no mental health

[hallow hill]

Anyone tryna run Mythic Vista Story on crushing for the event right quick?

[sweet valve]

also about finn, i heard he is still strong. did they seriously just never properly nerf him?

[coarse lantern]

how? they literally made a ton of nerfs and buffs that people requested, new gamemodes, bugfixes, new characters additions that people requested, changes in the mechanics, even the shields were something that was requested a ton

[fluid chasm]

Me when they haven't nerf arya smith and wonder woman

[torpid barn]

There is feedback that is ignored too

[solid badge]

#lfg-casual

[warm holly]

aryas 100% doable skill issue

[sweet valve]

Actually, hold on, let me guess: they never reworked the backpack up special when it very, VERY clearly, desperately needed reworking

[coarse lantern]

if we talk about numbers, i don't think mk 1 has more than mvs in consoles mostly because is a free game and also doesn't a need suscription to play online

[fluid chasm]

She legit has phantom block tech no excuse

[torpid barn]

Missing cosmetics and some balance changes etc

[coarse lantern]

they literally did, thats just a skill issue at this point

[unreal gyro]

she still has her stupid jab neutral special combo wdym she's broken

[warm holly]

sounds like u spam dodge if u cant run thru arya, smith is just cracked

[fluid chasm]

Wonder woman and Smith and Arya never gotten nerfed

[sweet valve]

and props to the gameplay team but that isn't what is going to save the game when it's not the reason no one is buying skins, sure more people will come to the game but like 1/100 will seriously consider buying a skin

[torpid barn]

True ig. Multiversus is just improving very very slowly

[sweet valve]

actually that made me realize

[solid badge]

Better slow than not improving

[fluid chasm]

So her immuning hitstun is a skill issue now

[unreal gyro]

once u have raven grinding the bp becomes ridiculously easy wth

[warm holly]

dodge it m8

[sweet valve]

it is only the gameplay team who is listening while wb and the people in charge of mtx plug their ears and yell NA NA NA NA NA I CAN'T HEAR YOU BLA BLA BLA BLA

[fluid chasm]

How does immune hitstun just dodge it

[unreal gyro]

parody or just plain idiocy call your bets.

[sweet valve]

And for that, again, props to the gameplay team

[torpid barn]

That is basically the bare minimum for a live service game

[coarse lantern]

of course there is because not all the feedback is good, i saw people saying that marvin needs nerfs, that jake needs nerfs (idk even why), that agent smith needs nerfs (when he doesn't need and he just haves a pretty good kit and if he gets nerfed he is going to be a hollow character like others like finn or ppg), and more examples

[sweet valve]

The same situation is kinda happening in a smaller scale on Fortnite rn

No one wants kicks because of how expensive they are even if they look cool

[fluid chasm]

Bro hasn't fought a good smith smh

[solid badge]

Immuning hitstun?

[coarse lantern]

no one is buying skins because they gift skins all the time because the community asks for it

[torpid barn]

Yeah that feedback is braindead and should be ignored. I was referring to more serious problems like missing cosmetics from beta

[fluid chasm]

She has a bug where she can do that and is abusable

[sweet valve]

that's another issue, they think the solution is giving away the product for free

[coarse lantern]

yeah i did and the only thing i see is a pretty good character, thats all

[solid badge]

And that is?

[fluid chasm]

I'll sent it in dms

[sweet valve]

when if anything that makes the $20 price tag even worse IMO

[warm holly]

cope ur plat for a reason

[torpid barn]

Honestly my main problem with the game is just balance and lack of shielding.

[coarse lantern]

thats a fair point, people missing cosmetics from beta is criminal

[sweet valve]

They just need to bite the bullet and admit MVS skins are not worth as much as they are charging.

[torpid barn]

I hooe they thoroughly test everything out before shielding becomes a thing

[sweet valve]

Idk if it is an ego or stubbornness thing, but they NEED to get over it for their own sake

[warm holly]

20$ for jake skins r 100% worth it

[sweet valve]

And I mean it, for their own sake

[coarse lantern]

thats so true, if they didn't gifted a lot of skins they probably will have a lot more of money

[sweet valve]

At this point I'll likely never spend on this game again

[torpid barn]

They need better topup deals too

[sweet valve]

But if they want to get this ship in order and actually stay afloat, they have to do what needs to be done

[torpid barn]

Like the 2 characters + 1000 gleamium for $5

[unreal gyro]

prolly because ranked progression's real boring

[sweet valve]

I just want to see this game still online 2 years from now

That's genuinely all I want

[warm holly]

@winged owl ur terrible

[sweet valve]

Hopefully more

[coarse lantern]

ww is not even top tier at this point, smith is just really good and arya doesn't even have nothing that i could say is "broken" rn

[torpid barn]

What did bro do

[winged owl]

And you’re insecure

[warm holly]

ranked tm8 did 90 dkmg

[coarse lantern]

they need to add the shields already

[torpid barn]

What did you do to this man?

[sweet valve]

t-they haven't added the shields?

[coarse lantern]

to the main game? no

[torpid barn]

Its still in testing grounds

[fluid chasm]

What game Are you playing

[sweet valve]

Weren't those announced like, before Fortnite Remix CH2 came out?
And the last day of it is today?

[torpid barn]

I'm guessing shields will be here by s5

[sweet valve]

I'm gonna take back that props to the gameplay team because what even

[fluid chasm]

Wonder woman is hella busted in 2s and Arya with airwalker is straight bs

[torpid barn]

Adding a whole new game mechanic to a game designed without the use of said mechanic takes lots of time to test out. Otherwise we will have to deal with many busted interactions

[coarse lantern]

the same game and they're legitimately not broken, they can be annoying but they're not broken, maybe ww in 2s can get some nerfs but i don't feel she is broken

[solid badge]

Finally.

[sweet valve]

They should have taken the time to announce it too instead of announcing it as some weird hail mary to get players back and not even adding it in the same month

[solid badge]

Hopefully but finally

[warm holly]

@winged owl js carried u 3 times ur terrible

[sweet valve]

😭 like

[winged owl]

And you’re still insecure

[torpid barn]

Bro is just trying his best

[warm holly]

dude how do u try ur best and do 90 dmg 3 games in a row LOL

[torpid barn]

Dont need to hate on him for just doing his thing

[winged owl]

Later nerds enjoy being weird ✌️

[coarse lantern]

the problem i guess is mostly the community, they asked for shields since the beta and for some reason i don't even know, now they don't want them? is funny because shields in this game are pretty good is not like they're bad in any way for the balance

[torpid barn]

Meanie

[warm holly]

no clue how bros p1 and hes god awful

[fluid chasm]

Smith on the other hand needs bug nerfs he's way too disjointed kills way too earlier and jab is way too busted

[torpid barn]

Most people still want shields.

[sweet valve]

Atp I'd just get a new teammate, bro isn't pulling his weight and is calling you insecure while making you carry him like a baby. Now me, I wouldn't let that slide

[fluid chasm]

And also how I forgot Rick another top tier and garnet

[warm holly]

he let me get 2v1ed all 3 games and i still got all the kills 🤷‍♂️

[coarse lantern]

rick and garnet are not broken bruh

[worn ferry]

hmm my arena partner is a mummy reindog with animated volley ball bg poster. Chat is this a bot or is this a bot

[torpid barn]

Rick jab 1 is pretty broken

[coarse lantern]

yeah myself included, but a lot of people don't want them for some reason

[fluid chasm]

Bro 🤣

[solid badge]

Real 2v2 or Casual Queue?

[sweet valve]

I think bro is projecting with the "insecure" thing then

[warm holly]

rankd

[torpid barn]

The projectile spammers and the circle camper squad most likely

[coarse lantern]

bro is not, people just want the characters to have useless moves at this point

[fluid chasm]

Garnet legit has no whiff and Rick has one of the best jabs and set ups in the whole game

[fluid chasm]

You main Rick don't you

[solid badge]

Right. Real 2v2

[warm holly]

@torpid barn is double jake a thing agn?

[coarse lantern]

how is GARNET a broken character man? 💀 rick i could see in some way (even if is not) but garnet?

[torpid barn]

Double jake?

[worn ferry]

bro wants more whiff on close combat punches

[coarse lantern]

no i don't

[warm holly]

cus doubles used to be banned? afaik

[torpid barn]

I actually dont know about that

[eternal crest]

@twin bloom hi buddy

[torpid barn]

I never seen anything about jake being banned in 2s in any proper tourney so I just assumed it was misinfo

[warm holly]

wht rank

[torpid barn]

Cant rick combo you to 50 off of 1 win in neutral?

[sweet valve]

Most satisfying thing in this game is countering a Finn with projectiles while he tries to spam killing moves and then when he loses he goes "no fair you were spamming projectiles"

[torpid barn]

Me in 2s?

[warm holly]

si

[unreal gyro]

how about you stop being a dick to people playing a game for fun

[sweet valve]

"you said i was spamming kill moves? nah i was just trying to kill you bro"

[fluid chasm]

Her nair is one of the safest in this game her jab has armor cancels very fast and her song stops projectiles and boost her to same speed as Finn and bubbles her sair is still crazy

[warm holly]

play casual if u wanna play for fun, simple solution right?

[sweet valve]

💀💀💀

[torpid barn]

Plat 4. Was masters 5 in 1s last season with jake though

[winged owl]

Real. I’ve logged thousands of games and have never been tagged in this discord lmao

[unreal gyro]

i play ranked for fun because i want to play without hazards, you take this stuff way too seriously

[sweet valve]

from the sounds of it, they were doing the opposite

[coarse lantern]

is not like most of the cast couldn't do the same damage really quick, at least the character has a lot of sauce and nerfing more stuff of him would make another situation like the current ppg or jake since the relaunch and i'm so tired of characters getting they sauce gone because of complains like that

[sweet valve]

refusing to pull their weight and then calling them insecure when they literally win

[warm holly]

its no fun when ur tm8 throws the game tho eh?

[fluid chasm]

Ppg is balanced

[unreal gyro]

it isn't, but that's not an excuse to shame people who got matched up with you imo

[torpid barn]

My character cant 😿

[winged owl]

“From the sounds of it” bro got mad he died three times and got laddered by Arya and tagged me about it. That’s insecure. Just say gg and go next

[warm holly]

i got lattered and still got all 4? lol

[torpid barn]

But thats my problem ig

[coarse lantern]

they're because they're boring now, anyone who used to main them can confirm that they don't feel fun to use anymore

[warm holly]

u legit did 90 dmg without a single kill 🤣 gg go next shitcan

[latent spindle]

nerf Raven

[eternal crest]

crazy how you call me a slur, just for playing the game, ggs

[fluid chasm]

They are just very inconsistent

[coarse lantern]

jake was peak in beta is so sad what happened to him since the relaunch, he was my main

[warm holly]

still the main bro wys?

[finite blade]

Raven is like black Adam

[warm holly]

jake 🆙

[winged owl]

I literally don’t care. You held forward and I stock tanked. I adapted to how YOU playedThat number I supposedly did gets smaller each time you bring it up.

[torpid barn]

He was braindead broken in the beta though. I kinda dont mind jake in his current state

[sweet valve]

wait, he faced that much trouble due to you not pulling your weight and he still won and got all the kills? and you called bro insecure?

i think it's wraps for this "argument" LOL. You really thought this sounded good for you

[coarse lantern]

jake is boring to use for me rn, thats the real reason why i don't use him

[warm holly]

only thing i'd like is his stretch to properly work agn

[winged owl]

Yeah okay enjoy bringing people into this community with this sick rhetoric 👌

[torpid barn]

Nair -> nair 2 is the optimal jake gameplay now sadly

[finite blade]

Jake and velma seen better days

[warm holly]

^ fax

[coarse lantern]

he wasn't braindead, he had one spammable move that got nerfed but the character wasn't "easy" to use, it have more high skill than most of the cast at that moment

[torpid barn]

What problem are you having with stretch

[warm holly]

im so moronic idk what nair is bro i js W key

[torpid barn]

The move where he inflates in the air

[warm holly]

oh ye thats boring af

[torpid barn]

He was nigh unpunishable in the beta though

[coarse lantern]

a character can be mid tier and be fun but jake imo is not fun to use

[warm holly]

half the time it doesnt proc when im on them or they can just easily dodge out of it so cringe

[neon owl]

My teammate!!

[coarse lantern]

yeah but it wasn't a character that you could pick the first time and win every match like others in the beta (batman, shaggy, finn, harley, etc)

[torpid barn]

Oh yeah that happens sometimes. Once you get used to how it works though you wont get that issue

[warm holly]

too used to beta stretch

[sweet valve]

I don't bring anyone into the community because there's not much to convince them to come. What, "Yo, come spend $20 on a BTAS skin. Yeah, you coulda got it free, but you missed the fomo event. Now come on, cough up the twenty!"

I'm sure that would get them stampeding to the game lol

[torpid barn]

Not wrong ig finn was so broken back then

[warm holly]

word.

I still spent the 20 for the jake skins tho

[torpid barn]

Yeah beta stretch felt much better.

[winged owl]

Ok

[torpid barn]

Which jake skins

[sweet valve]

did they ever update rick prime or is he still a perfect example of why skins in this game are a missed opportunity

[coarse lantern]

finn was literally broken, he was the only character that most of the time i loose against in beta

[sweet valve]

he at least has new voicelines, right...? oh who am i kidding it's pfg

[torpid barn]

Remember that blackhole of a backpack?

[sweet valve]

i'm running out of copium yall

[warm holly]

all of em

[coarse lantern]

no he doesn't, it surprises me because evil morty and president morty got new voicelines on season 2

[warm holly]

ive got all but the crappy animated one andf the batman 1

[finite blade]

I wonder if we will ever see Ed edd n eddy in multiversus

[torpid barn]

Thats literally my main goal too rn. Im missing only 5 rn

[torpid barn]

You a jake main too?

[warm holly]

i can imagine eds board being similar to harleys hammer

[sweet valve]

i hate that the community just let them get away with selling unfinished skins

[coarse lantern]

that thing and the fact he could hold his grounded moves forever was so painful

[finite blade]

We need plank in multiversus

[warm holly]

ye since beta release

[torpid barn]

Same 🤝

[coarse lantern]

is weird because the design is perfectly fine but they literally miss the best option to a legendary skin for rick, it doesn't have unique voicelines or animations

[cedar viper]

1500 players peak 24h 😦

[torpid barn]

Which region are you?

[warm holly]

they did me dirty on the jake total dmg badge, shld literally be a mil+, NA

[torpid barn]

There is a total jake damage badge?

[sweet valve]

it would be one thing if they added additional content to the skins like styles, but that would be copying a good thing from Fortnite for the players

[warm holly]

ye

[sweet valve]

they can only copy Fortnite when it makes them money

[torpid barn]

Where did you get that badge from? I cant find it anywhere. *replied to wrong guy

[bold canyon]

Half the elusive ones in this event don't even have unique win or loss animations

[torpid barn]

Where did you get that badge from?

[coarse lantern]

anyways, i really like this season so far pretty funny, the only complain i have is that when to go to the event store the game doesn't work at all 😔

[worn lily]

multiversus should do something like overwatch and have a play test weekend for new characters

[warm holly]

I dont even have it, its in the badges tho, idk where ur supposed to get it

[torpid barn]

You on ps4?

[fluid chasm]

W

[sweet valve]

I also heard elusive skins aren't even exclusive which is like

way to go PFG

[coarse lantern]

yeah...

[torpid barn]

Not there on my screen. Weird

[sweet valve]

you did one thing right with the skins and immediately messed it up for money

[torpid barn]

Yeah I heard the game is terrible on last gen

[sweet valve]

perfect summary of pfg there

[warm holly]

its locked like a few others r

[torpid barn]

Ah ic

[bold canyon]

The menu said they were exclusive, but you can get another version of Bruce Wayne (the headmaster one) rn that's not exclusive so if you bought Bruce back in the event you basically got scammed

[coarse lantern]

i legitimately don't know how a game like this can run so badly compared to others like fortnite, apex, cod, etc

[wooden zinc]

How do you deal with Jake's air neutral

[sweet valve]

Let me guess: the store had free stuff which cannot be accessed through the main store, but the paid stuff in said event store can, meaning you only have access to view the paid items?

[unreal gyro]

why the hell does shaggy's neutral smash half charge kill at 70

[quasi edge]

How do I escape mystery machine

[torpid barn]

Space out / parry

[coarse lantern]

nah i just can't see any of the items in the event store at all, if i click any of them the game freezes

[bold canyon]

That's happening to a lot of people

[torpid barn]

JOHN HOLLOW KNIGHT

[sweet valve]

PFG knew exactly what they were doing, putting all of the free stuff in the event store only while the event bundles still get shown in the main store

On one hand, honestly? Smart as hell

[bold canyon]

Silksong when

[torpid barn]

Where silksong at

[sweet valve]

On the other, you are scumbags for that PFG, just admit you don't want the players to get free stuff

[torpid barn]

Tomorrow for sure

[tulip bluff]

sigma

[clever oar]

to yatziry_2013 Wtf all you did was break open the warner bros door then throw yourself off the edge the entire 2v pvp battle? I hope every battle you ever have after this... all your team mates do the same to you

[warm holly]

LOL

[warm holly]

js @ them works everytime

[tulip bluff]

im so good at parrying now

[torpid barn]

That kid is 11 years old

[clever oar]

I dont care how old he is man, play as a team or dont do 2vs

[tulip bluff]

bro is not seeing this message

[torpid barn]

I think s4 made parrying more consistent. I've been landing them almost everytime too

[tulip bluff]

To TickleToe420, once i catch you, you aint safe (he is the best jason)

[coarse lantern]

i suck at parrying honestly

[torpid barn]

Once you get the timing down its pretty easy

[coarse lantern]

i would like to have shields queue permanently instead of only being available to play it on some specific days

[torpid barn]

You also need to know exactly where your hurtbox is too

[foggy magnet]

kill me please

[torpid barn]

In game?

[warm holly]

If enyone whant to help at some point it would be nice
Ranked 2v2 EU i really want the master raven skin

[foggy magnet]

depends on interpretation

[torpid barn]

Post this in #lfg-competitive you'll have better luck there

[torpid barn]

Relatable

[sharp moon]

lol

[foggy magnet]

first ranked match of the night and it was @analog stirrup and he got promoted to master

[sharp moon]

~~Buff Shaggy ~~

[foggy magnet]

while im still at plat 1

[sweet valve]

That's what happens when devs don't make a proper report system lol

[sharp moon]

Nerf Raven

[sweet valve]

if he got a week ban he'd never do that again i can assure you that

but that would require pfg to stop sitting on their diapers and gorging on donuts while they take 6 months to add shields

[warm holly]

I have for two days now nobody replies in there for the most part

[sweet valve]

they got that built in bean bag

[foggy magnet]

i seriously dont understand PFG ranked matchmaking

[torpid barn]

Oh. Thats rough

[coarse lantern]

sometimes i do it but only when im only thinking about doing that specifically

[torpid barn]

Isnt that pretty normal?

You have to lock in to land a parry

[coarse lantern]

yeah i mostly don't think about doing it

how many wins you all have with your mains?

[foggy magnet]

how is it that you give me silver players in a ranked match and at the same time give me people from master/grandmaster. IM JUST PLAT

[torpid barn]

2.7k

[coarse lantern]

damn thats really sick

[torpid barn]

Nah i seen people with 7k

[coarse lantern]

i have 1.8k rn with my main and 1.2 with my secondary

[spark hill]

In Ranked 2v2 most raven as a teammate are so bad like do something. I'm here putting in work getting jumped and he out there in the background being useless also if you a bugs main and all you do is spin your bad

[coarse lantern]

thats really insane, i have that amount of wins with ALL the cast damn 😭

[jovial dove]

All they can think of doing is spam Azarath im guessing?

[torpid barn]

Damn fr? I dont even have 3.5k yet with the whole cast

[tulip bluff]

im in my parrying era

parried like 4 moves in a row from a ww

[torpid barn]

How many of them were nairs

[tulip bluff]

now i hope they dont add shields so its easier to parry

[tulip bluff]

they surprisingly didnt spam nair

[torpid barn]

Parrying is gonna be down + dodge then

[junior flax]

2.2 K. Tons of 300 wins fighters as well

[torpid barn]

Wont parrying be basically obsolete when shields come?

[torpid barn]

You're the finn guy, right?

[junior flax]

I am the Finn guy

[torpid barn]

My goat

[junior flax]

everyone in the server uses me as a bench mark for skill

[fluid chasm]

Will you do your 12 hr a day run like hardcore fox

[coarse lantern]

damn thats really cool, i also have a lot of 300-600 fighters as well

[junior flax]

I’m his dad

[coarse lantern]

damn then you have to be really good with jake if you use him most of the time

[fluid chasm]

Damn

[tulip bluff]

jack is so fun

[coarse lantern]

yeah it is

[junior flax]

true

[tulip bluff]

maining this dude until scorpion comes to the game

[junior flax]

any (Samurai) Jackers in chat?

[coarse lantern]

i use jack sometimes he is fun

[open girder]

me

[coarse lantern]

i only have 232 wins with jack tho, not that much

[junior flax]

add Eggman and I’ll never drop this game

[lone trench]

When I can build in this game it’s so over for y’all.
Jack black steve from Minecraft movie or emmet from Lego movie Idc

[tulip bluff]

i used to have the most wins but ive played a lot less this season, but i have like 3450 wins