general

[ornate oracle]

Greetings

[warped fern]

He's not as easy to just pick up and play cheesy with anymore, people were only really playing him a lot when he was mega easy

[thorn blade]

wsp

[thorn blade]

Yeah he takes skill to play.

[unborn quail]

I’m facing worse people by turning off crossplay

[eager idol]

Pfg is just gonna do the thing they did with iron giant and take away one random option per update

[thorn blade]

I wonder if I should do that. 🤔

[elfin basin]

i’m so tired of jake this season bruh

[unborn quail]

you should im lowkey seeing less top tiers but more shaggy

[ionic swan]

Oog is the best Player in mvs lawl that 3 stock he pulled off in the tourney was insane

[analog stirrup]

that was great and pretty entertain from bhands tourney #4 with shield on

[warped fern]

I don't think he's necessarily difficult because there isn't much in this game that takes mechanical skill but he's not as flowchart as characters like Shaggy/WW and still does have some downsides

[ionic swan]

Shields will not slow the game down at all

That was awesome

[sharp moon]

Finally someone gets the joke

[analog stirrup]

oh you watched it as well

[violet void]

Yoo

[ionic swan]

I dont miss events, Im into comp 100%

Smith is Strong but I beat them all the time online. Shields make him more manageable for sure

[unborn quail]

Black Adam not rlly

[elfin basin]

like jake shouldn’t be living to 160

[analog stirrup]

if only Girph remember to break shield fast
but i respect the way Oog played with smith, congrats for him

[ionic swan]

Commentators said stop complaining and git gewd yall lol

[elfin basin]

mid

smith still brain dead

[ionic swan]

Garnet

[elfin basin]

so much harley’s

[ionic swan]

Smith the goat

[elfin basin]

yet one didn’t make it to top 8 😭

[ionic swan]

I have never hated smith

🗿

[analog stirrup]

now i'm w8 for 2s shield tourney

[elfin basin]

easiest jab in the game

[elfin basin]

now that will be interesting

anyway jason finally getting up there

[ionic swan]

Smith players that are mid are gonna be jabbing shield alot lawl

[elfin basin]

he still has shield break and ground jab plus clone

[ionic swan]

Jason was always scary, his buff told players to use his Nair finally lol

[bold canyon]

Smith players try not to spam jab roll for one second challenge

[elfin basin]

that meta was like made for him

[ionic swan]

Jason with shield is gonna wreck

[analog stirrup]

2s meta in this game is really different, i'm really dig on it and curious to see how this goes with shield
so far, shield is pretty needed for 1s

[elfin basin]

everyone runs zoners there and ww

[ionic swan]

2s been stressful lately since everyone started playing like FogHorn Leghorn.

[bold canyon]

Why did like every youtuber quit

[ionic swan]

Filtered

[prisma chasm]

If you want instant wins on 2s play rick and shaggy

[bold canyon]

Chance quit
Crazynoc barely plays anymore
Ortaga also barely plays

[ionic swan]

Because they getting salty

[bold canyon]

We barely have anymore

[bold canyon]

Impossible not to playing this game

[ionic swan]

If they could relax more and enjoy win/lose

I have been cool as a cucumber and I went on a lose streak last night

[bold canyon]

I just lost 5 times in a row and I'm fuming rn

[ionic swan]

Todays was better for me

[warm holly]

thats the key to having fun

[ionic swan]

The gameplay is fun thats my focus

I think everyone takes themselves too serious and thats why they get so mad when they lose

[warm holly]

just remember you are here to have fun if you lose you lose just to the next you learn from losses (hopefully)

[thorn blade]

Indeed

[warm holly]

teach me how to batman pretty plz

[thorn blade]

interesting

[thorn blade]

uhh

Pressure your opponent

close in and get that jab jab down tilt combo

Throw your batarang at every chance you get.

[warm holly]

i just switched from controller to keyboard bc it feels more comfortable and i havent enjoyed batman since beta but rn im enjoying him so much

[ionic swan]

We need more positivity in the community

Like complaints here and there are funny to me, but sometimes its too much even for me

[analog stirrup]

what a transition
instead i want to try switch into controller
why?

[ionic swan]

The game is in actually a very good spot rn with a few exceptions on the roster.

My personal Roster pick I dislike is PPG

[warm holly]

its all about personal preference honestly, i played on controller most my life but i started playing games on keyboard and it feels more natural for me, its all about what fits you and what you flow the best with

[regal blade]

MUSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD

[languid plaza]

Hello chattt

[regal blade]

Hello

[languid plaza]

Hru Reggie the stupid veggie jk

[elfin basin]

this game really feels like gambling on its improvement

[worn ferry]

Clapp you gotta play Arena mode as Taz w maxed out Trigger Happy

[warm holly]

woah now

[elfin basin]

really debating whether i should spend 30 bucks on marceline set or just not bother with it

[worn ferry]

[worn ferry]

Depends how broke are u

[warm holly]

i stopped playing taz this season bc i feel like he was alr bad and they gutted him, but that doesnt sound bad i would love another reason to play taz

[ionic swan]

I cant seem to get Taz Ive rerolled for him and nothing

[elfin basin]

well enough to debate spending 30 dollars on a free play game

[shut oar]

Are teams supposed to be knocked out of the arena mode if their health reaches zero?

[regal blade]

Doing good frizzy ain’t been busy (jk) hbu

[warm holly]

do you enjoy the game?

[elfin basin]

just cause i want to play character early and get good stuff

[worn ferry]

Probably don't do it then! 👍🏿

[ionic swan]

Dang you free to play games being free to play.

[elfin basin]

sometimes, i find myself loving the community more than the game

[shut oar]

Buncha teams in here have negative health

[languid plaza]

Practicing my ppg

After getting totally assaulted in a 1v1 I realized that I suck

[warm holly]

if you think you like this game enough to do it then why not?

[worn ferry]

Wow really? I get him and my mains all the time. I rarely have to reroll

[elfin basin]

i’m hoping on balance

[ionic swan]

My luck

[warm holly]

ive rerolled 1 time and ive been playing arena so much

[unborn quail]

Garnet has no whiff what is this

[regal blade]

Understandable

[worn ferry]

Arena mode Taz is insane w lvl 3 Trigger Happy perk. This Finn main and Jason main we're giving us hella trouble so I just maxed it out and spammed nado and dogpile on them constantly along wit Batrangs.

[languid plaza]

Well I’m not that bad I just need to practice

[regal blade]

Buggs bunny baseball bat needs a damn nerf

Nerf the area effect on that crap

[digital heron]

just fought a superman who spams parry out of whiff and armor and command grab oml how does he get away with this lmao

[warm holly]

trigger happy is cooldown reduction right? i had lvl 3 cooldown reduction on bugs and it was diabolical

[worn ferry]

Yup yup

[south bloom]

Which work perk should I get for raven Simmering Temper or Friendly Familiar?

[ionic swan]

Have Taz team with up Rick and have both of them with trigger happy level 3

[worn ferry]

I Call it Trigger Happy Havoc

[ionic swan]

Rick uses Polymorph on Taz, Taz uses Dogpile, Do it again, and again, and again

[warm holly]

gonna get another taz and turn it back into the beta

[warm holly]

NO STOP THAT HURTS ME AND IM NOT EVEN IN GAME

[worn ferry]

👀

[south bloom]

Whichperk should I get for raven Simmering Temper or Friendly Familiar?

[ionic swan]

I dont have a decent Rick Partner to run that strat but boy its a dream of mine

[worn ferry]

I don't use Raven she's boring.

[sage summit]

simmering

[south bloom]

@sage summit Are you sure about that

[ionic swan]

Have dogpile Taz perk when Rick poly’s him so you can make it even larger

[sage summit]

yeah

[warm holly]

i use simmering but i also barely use raven

[ionic swan]

Boy Agent Smith sure knows how to put on a show in events

[sage summit]

Nubia>>>>raven

at least in amount of fun to be had while playing

[worn ferry]

They cooked so little w Raven like why the bird companion. We wanted so see her throw dark aura covered pianos at ppl not this

[sage summit]

fr just feels like tom and jerry with thighs

[worn ferry]

Exactly....

At least there's always hope w the actual goat. TTG Raven. 😤

[sage summit]

ur banned

[south bloom]

Which team perks should I get?

[sage summit]

Stronger than ever
Flammable
Snowballing

[south bloom]

So you're saying I shouldn't use flammable for raven

[sage summit]

I mean stronger than ever if its being stacked is the best one

but flammable is a good 2nd pick since ravens jab ignites

[south bloom]

So you're saying I should get stronger than ever or flammable

[sage summit]

If you can only afford one

Stronger than ever

[south bloom]

33875 These how many perk points I have?

[balmy lodge]

Nerf Taz

[sage summit]

then just get both

[balmy lodge]

No skill

[sage summit]

you have multiple perk sets

[warm holly]

cope harder

[agile oasis]

you play finn buddy and you ran the whole game

[ionic swan]

Boy if yall dont leave Taz alone, hes already Bottom 5

[balmy lodge]

You actually suck

[sage summit]

taz is pretty alr rn, aside from the actual bugs he has with people dropping out of dog pile.

they made his tornado go in 1 direction and cant fast fall

[warm holly]

REAL

[south bloom]

How about for the standard

[golden urchin]

easy solution to taz: remove him

[elfin basin]

you should definitely be going for snowball or flammable for raven as her damage output is low

[ionic swan]

Starts a MVs Hate Cult

Oh wait, Looks at the Smash Community

[sage summit]

for 2nd slot

2 fast 2 block

or

speed force assist

whatever you prefer

[golden urchin]

?

[sage summit]

for the 3rd slot

its up to prefrence, but blind spot good seems really good for raven.

[warm holly]

what lvl is ur jason? just curious

[golden urchin]

like 26 or 28 idk

[sage summit]

yo crispy o/

[golden urchin]

why?

[warm holly]

hihi

[warm holly]

teach me how to jason, ive had uber jason since season 1 but never touched jason at all

[golden urchin]

im not good at jason so uh

[sage summit]

do you fw arcane?

[golden urchin]

idk

[warm holly]

like the show?

[sage summit]

yeah

[warm holly]

havent watched it yet but its on my watch list i just barely be watching shows fr

[sage summit]

ngl ts is GAS

the music alone is going CRAZYYYYYY

[warm holly]

nahh i did listen to the music my homie sent me sum, it goes so hardddd

[sage summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXwoeXetD4A

I cant stop listening to this

It goes so crazy

[warm holly]

that was THE video that made me put it on my watch list

[worn ferry]

I hope all your potato chips are inexplicably soggy for the rest of time

[sage summit]

YES its in my mvs playlist, it gets me through the hard matches.

[warm holly]

my mvs playlist is straight divorce dad music and trust me it never fails

[sage summit]

Ambessa (woman in the music video) is so dope, actually W character, shes getting her own book soon.

[worn ferry]

I hope all your tortilla chips are inexplicably soggy for the rest of time

[unborn quail]

Batman is so braindead

[warm holly]

nuh uh

[ionic swan]

If they delete taz lol

[unborn quail]

wdym Nuh uh 💀

[pastel spear]

Why does foghorn leghorn have so much stuff in the game rn

[ionic swan]

Hes Daddy

Daddy Chicken

[warm holly]

nuh uh (i cant say if he is or not i no play batman)

[sage summit]

🐤 Cause i said- I said- Hes the goat 🗣️ 🔥

[ionic swan]

Foghorn 4 mvs

[pastel spear]

Bro has a banner icon and announcement voice. Could this be a hint towards my goat Daffy Duck?

[ionic swan]

He has a command grab where he picks u up by ur legs and spanks you with a wooden paddle

[normal fulcrum]

If I had to take a guess next season is wicked witch and idk who else. Maybe Daffy since hes a "big enough" name

[ocean steeple]

Random but can anyone tell me the best characters for 2v2 this season?

[pastel spear]

Certainly bigger than Nubia

[pastel spear]

My pfp

[ocean steeple]

Raven?

[pastel spear]

Yup

[normal fulcrum]

Wonder woman is typically always good in 2s

[ocean steeple]

Alr

Just playing arena mode and gotta have my go tos

[ionic swan]

Daffy will eventually come to the Game AJAX hinted him on twitter a few times

[pastel spear]

I pray so

Ever since the first release of the game I wanted Daffy Duck so bad

The moment he gets added is the moment I go pro

[normal fulcrum]

I just imagine wonder woman and steven will always be meta relevant in 2s. Maybe shaggy as well

[normal fulcrum]

Well at least thats another highly desired character. I am hoping they touch on Godzilla eventually though. I want another giant character

[waxen yew]

Shaggy and supes getting shields is absolutely brain dead design

[eager idol]

Daffy would be GREAT

[waxen yew]

They already have comically easy combos, they seriously do not need to have their hands held like that

[eager idol]

PFG really just needs to lock in with this roster

Marceline and Raven are a great start

No more Banana Guards and Nubias

[tender hedge]

[waxen yew]

B guard was a pain, but Nubias wasn't that bad

[unborn quail]

How much rp do I get from leaving if im in diamond 4?

[eager idol]

Nubia would be perfectly fine when the game is 4 years old and has like 50 characters

[dapper oar]

Shields would have them use brain cells.

[eager idol]

Idk what pfg was thinking going straight to the filler choices when there are so many characters just blatantly missing

[dapper oar]

Banana guard was an upgraded asset

A damn freebie as well, unless I missed something.

[eager idol]

Im not talking about whether he cost money or not

[sage summit]

I fw nubia 🤷‍♀️

[dapper oar]

He didn't take anything away, wish people wouldn't act like he stole a slot

[sage summit]

right

[warm holly]

taz vs taz

who win? taz

[eager idol]

Well id say that is a very valid concern to have since this game is finite by nature of being a live service

[ionic swan]

My moneys on Taz

[warm holly]

alright guys i am now a arya main

[eager idol]

Im outside your house

[waxen yew]

What are you stupid? Taz is going to obliterate him

[warm holly]

you want a grav?

[dapper oar]

The end goal of live services is to last as long as possible.

Unfortunately I think ftp causes padding inherently.

[thorn blade]

👏

Chat I'm afraid to say I...

I played Shaggy in Ranked 2s 😔

And I spammed all match long

I now see why ppl play Shaggy. EZ, Broken and powerful

[warm holly]

im blocking you no hard feelings

[warm holly]

ur blocked (im jk i could never i love you to much)

[raven echo]

Shields looked hot in that tornament

[ionic swan]

Shields are amazing

I just need them in the full game

Zoners highly against shields I wonder why

[eager idol]

Shields so this game can revolve even more around passive play? Idk about that

[ionic swan]

The Tournament proved that wrong

[regal blade]

Sometimes I get dumbass teammates

[ionic swan]

Shields made the game look way more aggressive than ever

[warm holly]

ily sal

[ionic swan]

If your opponents playing passive use shields as a safe way to approach

Learn to use them they’re crazy good once you get the feel

[raven echo]

They were not playing very passive when shields were a thing in the tornament

[ionic swan]

I saw them being used defensively sure but not only defensively they were dropping them to get in close for combos

Oog and Girph were going Crazy

Shields made Smith seem so much less scary that tourney

[eager idol]

Oh hey thats actually great

Maybe this game will actually be fun again

[ionic swan]

If ur opponent spams shield and plays passive, shield break them alot and theyll learn the error of their ways quick

[regal blade]

Thought there was shield bubbles in 1v1s

[ionic swan]

Morty’s shield breaker is kinda nuts

NAKAT during the tourney said they have more changes to combat they’re working on. This should be fun

[grim yew]

So glad people got to see that in action 🙏

[ionic swan]

It’s gonna be great. This game with shields feels complete

[eager idol]

I may have just fought the worst raven of all time

[junior flax]

some what slightly more complete

[ionic swan]

U mean 80% of ravens rn?

[eager idol]

Dude no they were like terrible

One match i just dropped my controller to see what theyd do and they just stood there dash dancing

[warm holly]

i started playing arya wit my homie as a joke

im kinda cooking

[eager idol]

Oh boy agent smith this is gonna be so much fun

[warm holly]

praying to the allmighty taz for you rn

[gaunt hazel]

I just thought about something, why doesn't Arena count towards 2v2 missions?

[ionic swan]

People do pointless dash dancing all the time. It’s because they see pros do it lol

I sit with Taz and let them come to me when they do that

[analog stirrup]

because arena mode and 2s mode are different mode

[trail summit]

I just got back into the game and im in Silver 5 being a Batman Main is that good

[gaunt hazel]

Well yeah, but Event Queue counts towards 1v1 and 2v2 missions and sometimes Rifts do as well. It's just a little weird that the line is seemingly drawn at Arena, a mode all about multiple 2v2 matches happening at once.

[ionic swan]

Jack players be Dash dancing all the time, they want you to get impatient and come to them so they can back up and stick their foot down your throat with his Jab1

[eager idol]

WHY IS HIS HITBOX SO SMALL

[ionic swan]

Batman will take u far

[grim yew]

Yeah babyyyyy

[trail summit]

Used to be a Rick Main

[grim yew]

What changed?

[ionic swan]

Not enough PickleRick

[grim yew]

So true

[trail summit]

True

[junior flax]

bc it actually has use

you just need to use it correctly

[ionic swan]

Exactly

[junior flax]

if you just dash dance without doing anything else then your just wasting time

[ionic swan]

They arent tho, they just do it, to do it

[junior flax]

you need to dodge in randomly or slowly take control of center stage

[ionic swan]

I kno because I feel zero pressure by them dashDancing

[eager idol]

Agent smith is so damn annoying oh my GOD

[junior flax]

its really good if you try to take stage control

[eager idol]

And i hate how his mains always think they’re tough for just throwing out these continent sized hitboxes and mashing that long dodge that he has for no DAMN reason

[spark hill]

This only applies to good agent Smiths

[eager idol]

I think whatever genius at pfg decided “hey lets give certain characters really long dodges” should just get beat up with a metal instrument

Like a pipe wrench

Thoughts?

[ionic swan]

They should increase Taz dodge distance OnGod

[grim yew]

And the ultimate edge guard tool in gun span, cause it has no whiff

[ionic swan]

I started using Taz ground Neutral the same as Smith gun, it also has low Whiff

I can space near the ledge and keep through boot and it out

And if they Jump I can jump Nado them

If Taz ever gets AppleCore Back we gonna be having a field day again

[eager idol]

All the strongest attacks in this game just have no whiff whatsoever and it just makes me furious

[ionic swan]

They could give him 2 AppleCore and have boot while on cooldown

[sharp moon]

buff superman put taz in the trash

[obtuse berry]

buff IG put smith in the trash

[grim yew]

Oh, I am very familiar with that tactic 💀

I have nightmares of playing against Taz as Rick back in seasons 1 and 2. That was so miserable. Then I moved to Velma, and guess what? SHE LOSES TOO

[junior flax]

we both know Ig needs to stay bad or he’s back to top 3

[raven echo]

🕶️

[raven echo]

The handsome smith.

[obtuse berry]

just revert the nair nerf he was okay in 1s before that but now hes clean bottom 5 😭 also maybe a lil grab buff 🙏

[ionic swan]

They’ll nerf Smith, and Smith players will still kill everybody cause smith wasn’t the reason people losing 🗿

[junior flax]

what if both Jack and IG got a buff?

[obtuse berry]

ill take it theyre both mid rn

[eager idol]

I do think smith is a little overtuned
Like that dodge? He has no business having that

[junior flax]

Jack in the dumps with IG

[ionic swan]

He‘ll get hit mid season for sure

[eager idol]

Jack players deserve to suffer forever

[ionic swan]

Jack‘s hitbox sizes are a crime

[obtuse berry]

bottom 10 buddies

[junior flax]

they arent that bad anymore

[eager idol]

That bad

[ionic swan]

I heard, havent seen enough of them yet

[junior flax]

Jack is like in the dumps as in also bottom 5

[eager idol]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[junior flax]

down air special kinda small now

[ionic swan]

So Jacks in Taz tier now, got it

[junior flax]

I honestly think taz can do more than him now

[obtuse berry]

isnt it Velma Marvin IG Reindog Jack rn

[ionic swan]

Time will tell, rn more people playing Jack than Taz tho

[obtuse berry]

or is lebron still bottom 5 aswell

[junior flax]

Reindog is actually good

[ionic swan]

Reindog sair is nuts

[junior flax]

and Lebron is kinda silly rn

[grim yew]

Velma riiiiight at the bottom btw, don't believe what anyone tells ya

[obtuse berry]

only cavemen are saying otherwise gang

[junior flax]

like lebron has 80% tech chases @obtuse berry

[eager idol]

I just straight up will never believe jack is bottom five

Like that is elite downplay

[obtuse berry]

who bottom 5 if not him

[eager idol]

But i understand
Id pretend my main was bad too

[eager idol]

Harley Quinn, Shaggy, Wonder Woman, Agent Smith, and the Powerpuff Girls

[junior flax]

in ones he is but in twos hes still good

[obtuse berry]

oh yeah if we talking overall then neither jack or IG are bottom 5

[sharp moon]

Buff Jack Buff IG

[junior flax]

the baiter

[obtuse berry]

I think if its overall then its Marvin Velma Nubia then some random bums

[gaunt hazel]

Finally unlocked Raven. Man, Fighters Road sucks. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they're trying to think of more ways for people to feel rewarder for just playing the game, but they seriously need to either bring back Fighter Currency or just lessen the amount of XP you need for FR

[obtuse berry]

either reindog or lebron idk cuz they both better in 1s

[grim yew]

Dude legit

[obtuse berry]

or js let u choose what character u want

[grim yew]

Nerf jake

[obtuse berry]

nobody would complain if u could choose which character ur grinding for

[obtuse berry]

true!

[gaunt hazel]

Right? I just dread when Marceline comes out cause I'll have to do fighters road all over again 😭

[grim yew]

Neutral air is the single dumbest move I've ever seen, and his entire design is like a race to the bottom of how to make the lamest character ever

[obtuse berry]

nair doing 25 damage is proof the balance team has sticks up their ass at all times

[grim yew]

Don't get me wrong, I love the show and the character but this game... omfg

[ionic swan]

My prediction is Marceline with have Rhythm based attacks. Cause guitar

[junior flax]

Nubia, Lebron and Reindog are actually good

[obtuse berry]

heard she was bottom 1 in 2s cuz its a mashfest and she cant compete

[eager idol]

I think jake should get buffs but like

I dont think ive ever seen a jake main thats good at the game

[sharp moon]

keep him and finn in the trash

[obtuse berry]

jake nor finn are in the trash

[eager idol]

Like i cant tell if hes really that bad or his players are just terrible

[junior flax]

she can lowkey get stuff done if your good

like side special be doing 45%

[deep crescent]

Agent Smith is cracked, but in the wrong hands he's worthless

[obtuse berry]

hard for your hands to be wrong

[ionic swan]

Ran 2s with a Velma as Taz the other night. It was super difficult. She needs a buff bad

[obtuse berry]

babies first ToD monster after 5 minutes in the lab

[junior flax]

he isnt ToD hes like 90% tech chase into kill at 100

[eager idol]

I got a hate message from a raven player

I didnt even do anything

[deep crescent]

Surprisingly common MvS L

[eager idol]

Raven mains are like
Weirdly toxic

Its like a common thing

[obtuse berry]

I meant tod as in jason and IG specifically 🥺

[deep crescent]

It's not even rlly raven mains, it's been an issue with the community at large since the beta

[obtuse berry]

worst matchup in the history of the game for both of them

[bronze fox]

God I love BeetleJuice

[junior flax]

Marvin IG

[obtuse berry]

smith IG is worse

if u get jabbed at all with no bolts u lose the stock

[eager idol]

Jeeeesus christ why is everyone playing so scary now

Its just nonstop i have to chase everyone around all the time what are you afraid of

[ionic swan]

Raven mains gotta try so hard because how she plays thats why they get extra salty when they start losing

[raven goblet]

Dance

[ionic swan]

[warm holly]

just lost to a double wonder woman in arena

[deep crescent]

Nerf Morty's dodge distance

[warm holly]

it was so cheesy

[eager idol]

This game wants to be an esport so bad why is it dedicated to making itself so booooring

[ionic swan]

Buff Taz dodge Distance

[raven goblet]

🕺💃

[eager idol]

I just dont think anybody should have longer dodges at all

I think everyone should have the same dodge distance so its less miserable

[ionic swan]

It‘s the players not the game, players can play like cowards in other platform fighters also. Samus in smash for example

[eager idol]

The thing is though smash is faster than this

[ionic swan]

For some reason players started playing more passive this season I have no idea why, the fastFalling wouldnt be the main cause that doesnt make sense

[visual trail]

wyd zaebead?

[ionic swan]

Smash just has less startup on its moves because it being delayed netcode based kinda allows for that easier. The movement in Multiversus is way better than smash if u ask me

[warm holly]

Days later and no one is playing raven what a surprise

[deep crescent]

You must not play ranked duos

[ionic swan]

Feels way more Satisfying pulling of sweet IAD combos in mvs where smash feels so Lame in the air.

[eager idol]

Iiiii wouldnt go that far

[ionic swan]

Ive played smash alot Im just saying how I feel. Mvs does not feel slow at all to me

[visual trail]

im bored we should ft10

[strange palm]

I played in a smash tournament today, mvs feels about the same. maybe a bit quicker

[ionic swan]

Smashes attacks come out alot quicker at less frames. In some cases I hate that because it makes attacks in smash alot less able to React to. Especially with the delay netcode making it feel like trash

[raven goblet]

Agree

[normal fulcrum]

I’m imagining the shock on people’s face if they add shields and then also buff moves with windup to be faster to compensate

[ionic swan]

Smash community will call this game slow, long after the devs keep speeding it up to the point where it‘s just way faster than smash ever was

[normal fulcrum]

Also way more air mobility

[ionic swan]

The air movement in mvs is the best out all plat fighters

[normal fulcrum]

Love it

The right amount of freedom without feeling too floaty

[bronze fox]

True, as someone who just bullied a Jack with Beejs chalk bomb

[ionic swan]

They are only gonna keep making mvs feel better and better each season

[normal fulcrum]

Until they add shields and flip all that hard work on its head

[eager idol]

My main thing is they really need to start punishing whiff for these giant damage dealing moves

[ionic swan]

Lol shields gonna be great

[normal fulcrum]

They do

[eager idol]

Uh
More then

[ionic swan]

I agree, larger moves need more whiff

[bronze fox]

Imagine Taz has a passive where he can eat shields and force them on cooldown

[ionic swan]

Lol

Alot of people hate Taz‘s speed and low whiff and dont ask themselves why he has it

[eager idol]

Because pfg plays favorites

[ionic swan]

How small alot of Taz attacks are demand that kind of speed and low whiff

Outside dogpile and boot‘s range

[eager idol]

Right

[deep crescent]

Why is it that most bruisers have a projectile of sorts except for BG?

[ionic swan]

BG spear is a projectile lawl

Bro dont need it hes S tier rn

[raven goblet]

Facts

[zenith holly]

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-silent-hill-2-great-knife-pyramid-head-sword-eddie-gif-2375917719778685682

[ionic swan]

[queen knoll]

mvs topics only

[deep crescent]

BA players are so unoriginal

[queen knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-kibble-greedy-glutton-gif-420543703723860209

[eager idol]

But yeah i think before the whole “oooh jack is so bad he needs 5 million buffs” conversation is even entertained, they need to tone down his hitboxes

Like the whole update was about fixing how hitboxes hit behind people and they just…ignored him specifically for some reason

[golden urchin]

jack most definitely doesn't needanybuffs

[raven goblet]

Lmfao

[ionic swan]

Jack Players got a Taste of ultimate cheese and been begging since then to return to those days

Said to rebuff his Grab, Gets grab nerfed again

Bros grab was insane

[bronze fox]

God Townsville feels so unsatisfying when you win, legit had that bug where Mojo Jojo fired his laser while he was moving to the other side

[ionic swan]

Never see bugs on that map

[bronze fox]

I felt so damn bad for the opponents because it legit made everyone go neck and neck with 3 points to each team

[eager idol]

He just shouldnt have that at all

[ionic swan]

Dudes Hand gets larger like he Monkey D luffy and yeets you below 50 to your death

Im accepting the Taz Nado being killed because they could of done alot worse to an already low tier. I dont even rely on nado like that.

But these crazy strong characters get nerfed and its the end of the world for their mains.

[bronze fox]

As soon as yall started talking about Jack I got paired up with one, what kinda ouija nonsense is this?

[ionic swan]

Sending you my energy

[bronze fox]

Mfs named Goku

[ocean steeple]

me too wtf

[ionic swan]

Peoples heart stops for a second when ever they see Jack pop up while matching up lol

[eager idol]

Jason did that jab jab teleport cheese BS so i had to touch him inappropriately

[golden urchin]

i never want to fight a tom and jake team again

[ocean steeple]

recipe for pain

[ionic swan]

Naww You just like Jason Like that

[bronze fox]

Nah fr it goes one of two ways, you see the Jack on the enemy team and youre like "Oh god Im gonna be in hell" but if you see a Jack on your team youre like "Nice free win:

[eager idol]

Hes invited me to a party 7 times now

[ocean steeple]

what kind of party

[ionic swan]

Jason sliding in them DM‘s

[bronze fox]

Mario

[eager idol]

An xbox one
I may have beat him and teabagged

But in my defense he did that jab jab teleport cheese strat so hes less than human

[golden urchin]

less then human?

[ionic swan]

Jason Slander alert

[ashen fractal]

Asking jack buffs is insane.He is not bad he just is balanced and not broken like in s2.Yall need to understand that a character doesn't need to control the meta to be good.

[silent nimbus]

we should start tying people to poles and pelting them with rocks if their opinions are wrong

[ocean steeple]

I'm down

[silent nimbus]

you would be the first on the poles

[ocean steeple]

Anyone else have a deep hatrid for batman users?

[ionic swan]

Every Jakes dream is Jake to be beta Jake again

[golden urchin]

started half way to plat 5. now im almost deranked to gold 2.

[ocean steeple]

uh

[ionic swan]

Not anymore, I only hate how BatBomb is straight up a free stock

[visual trail]

why you laughing zaebead? this ft10 stuff life or death

[bronze fox]

Oh hey I just played with you, I was the Beetlejuice

[silent nimbus]

my dream is for jake to have less whiff on every move

[ionic swan]

Jake mains wanna be broken and everyone else to suck

[silent nimbus]

that entire game I was fighting with a 3 second delay i had no idea what was going on

[silent nimbus]

absolutely

[lone trench]

Some Jake moves aren’t even punishable

[silent nimbus]

like what

[lone trench]

Sair

[silent nimbus]

up special is the only one I can think of

[silent nimbus]

you are silly for thinking this

[ionic swan]

Jake got an insane buff to his nair

[eager idol]

I KNOW this iron giant didnt just teabag

[silent nimbus]

yeah i hate it because its the only move jakes use now

[eager idol]

I KNOW that

[ocean steeple]

Every batman does the exact same thing and I still have problems with them

[eager idol]

Giant im gonna get this baby oil and get to work

[golden urchin]

i think im done with this game until mid season or season 5

[lone trench]

If a Jake tried to sair you, you don’t have enough time to jump at him and attack

[bronze fox]

I mean its all good since we won, I thought we were screwed when the IG just killed me off rip

[silent nimbus]

its like a trillion year charge up

[lone trench]

Yea I’m not gonna play ranked until midseason. Just gonna try and learn a new character

[bronze fox]

Felt really satisfying to break the WWs shield constantly though

[ionic swan]

Jake mains not realizing his attacks are slow because they are ranged attacks that can spike above the ledge

[silent nimbus]

yeah that was my bad I couldnt even control my jake I had to guess where everyone was gonna go because of my insane delay

[lone trench]

So? Charging sair would just make players run away, even less chance to punish it

[silent nimbus]

you are a gm you should be able to parry it

[bronze fox]

I mean either way you did hella good so props to you, sometimes I wanna pick up Jake but at the same time I dont wanna experience hell

[silent nimbus]

im glad the iron giant was bad

[ionic swan]

Jakes are so campy with his ranged melee I gotta be a degenerate all the time with Taz and sit there and use Soup spit at their punches every time

[lone trench]

I would never go close to Jake as Nubia, I’m trying to win.

[silent nimbus]

nubia counters jake tho

[lone trench]

If you play aggressive yes

[ashen fractal]

Fr

[silent nimbus]

all disjoint without projectiles and grabs is jakes counter

[lone trench]

It’s even at best. Jake has better cheese

[ionic swan]

Jake seems so insane by design.

[bronze fox]

Gold usernames.mp4 for real

[silent nimbus]

i play aggressively and chase down my opponents so all ur complaints doesnt really apply to me but i get why you guys hate the jake cheese

[lone trench]

Nubia has bad offstage tools a lot of Jake players like to get that cheap upspecial - upair. That’s the reason I run airwalker now

[silent nimbus]

thats what i use whenever i know my opponent is gonna do a dash attack

[eager idol]

This may be the most toxic community ive ever encountered in a fighting game
Two hate messages in one night

[ashen fractal]

Nubia aitn bad in air she has good can neutral special and normal attack side special and can easily combo

[ionic swan]

I really dont understand why people get so toxic in MVS. The game is fun. Mvs has such a sweaty community

[silent nimbus]

the one character i hate fighting is banana guard because theres no way to approach as jake

[ionic swan]

Then again alot of people get toxic in other fighting games also. Ever seen the Smash Rage Compilations?

[ashen fractal]

Banana guard is top tier

[ionic swan]

Dudes go berserk losing in Smash

[eager idol]

All that teabagging
I think just for fun pfg should update the game to where whoever teabags just is obliterated automatically

[silent nimbus]

when i was like 14 i went to an ultimate competition and beat someone and they actually looked like they were gonna beat me half to death (they were a pro youtuber)

[ashen fractal]

Guys toxicity exists in all competitive games why are u so surprised it exists in mvs

[ionic swan]

I think Smash kinda worse ngl, Ive been around awhile playing smash before I left for mvs

[ionic swan]

FPS toxicity is crazy

[silent nimbus]

i like smash because the hits feel like theyre hitting

[ionic swan]

MinMin

[lone trench]

💀 neutral special. I would only do air neutral special offstage when I’m on the wall against a ledge gaurd.

Anything else will get you punished trust me

[silent nimbus]

like when I hit someone in game it feels like it actually connects, in this game sometimes i ask how I punched my opponent

[ionic swan]

Boy I love how a character like MinMin is Jake times 100 that can punch you from clean across the map

[lone trench]

She literally doesn’t have good tools when trying to recover

[silent nimbus]

i havent used minmin but i have her dlc

[lone trench]

If she did I would not run airwalker for recovery

[eager idol]

I never want to fight raven again oh my god

[ionic swan]

I love getting spammed by a character like Game&Watch with Bacon that has zero limit to it‘s use

[eager idol]

Her hitbox is already subatomic did she need the half the stage dodge too

[ionic swan]

Love his random 9s that 1shot you after you work so hard to rack up his damage

[silent nimbus]

i didnt have a main in smash I always pressed random

whenever I was in tournaments tho I used rosalina and luma

[ionic swan]

Smash is lowKey way worse under the surface. Like what are people thinking. Atleast multiversus puts moves on cooldown

[golden urchin]

shes honestly not that bad

[silent nimbus]

the only move i can think of that need a cool down is sephiroths hollow purple thing

[ionic swan]

Ive played Smash for almost 15 years and I can say so much about it

[silent nimbus]

with smash it feels like moves dont need a cool down tbh

[frail sluice]

Ngl gang this take is not it

[ionic swan]

Aight

[silent nimbus]

like king k rools crown is weak and only follows him for maybe half a second

[frail sluice]

See the reason why smash doesn’t need cooldowns is because it actually has proper defense mechanics

[ionic swan]

Like shields?

[frail sluice]

And actual ways to block spamming the same move

Even beyond shields

[ionic swan]

Such as

[silent nimbus]

smash just has it all figured out tbh

[frail sluice]

A proper airdodge

[eager idol]

No more mages i dont want to see any more mages for the next like 5 years

[ionic swan]

Pop off King I havent seen you around til I started this convo might as well

[eager idol]

Wonder woman? No im not doing that bye

[ionic swan]

No smashes air movement sucks

[frail sluice]

Yeah aight

[ionic swan]

Mvs‘s recovery system is way better vs playing rock/Paper/scissors to read their recovery

[eager idol]

Stripe is acceptable i guess

[ionic swan]

Will they roll? get up attack, or jump while on ledge

Who knows????

[frail sluice]

So what you’re saying is you don’t want to think while playing a game

Understood

[ashen fractal]

Have u considered that u might just be bad at the game.You have complained about half the roaster.You might have to look within yourself

[ionic swan]

Actually playing the wall game in mvs has alot more going on and allows more variety

Scrapping off map in mvs is way more satisfying

[silent nimbus]

thats so boring

[frail sluice]

Yeah this is just flat out wrong

[spice laurel]

Why can Reindog carry across the stage into down air?

[ionic swan]

Aight

[frail sluice]

The wall game in mvs is quite literally just two people throwing a move out until one hits

So instead of rock paper scissors you’re flipping a coin

[ionic swan]

Or you dodge?

[lone trench]

^

[atomic dust]

I just got thrown around by a toxic stripe 😭

[frail sluice]

Why would dodge matter when your opponent can also just dodge out the move anyways and then you’re in the same loop again

[ionic swan]

U said smash has better airdodges for defensive measure when mvs literally gives you more defensive options in the air

[flat breach]

@languid plaza ready when you are

although I guess its 6 hours later so you're probably catching the zeds

[frail sluice]

Such as

[lone trench]

When my opponent is on the wall I walk to the middle of the stage, so they think I’m letting them on.

THEN NUBIA DASH ATTACK 👹

[lone trench]

Works surprisingly well in masters. Nubia dash attack range is kinda busted

[sharp moon]

Bro my internet is so garbage pray for me

[eager idol]

Okay. Wanna do a set?

[ionic swan]

Multiple air dodges and the perk to give you additional recovery resources when hit. Not only that you dont go into a dumb freefall when you dodge in the air like smash alot of the time.

[silent nimbus]

ur defense options mid air are parry or dodge to ur right and lose twice as much stamina as you would on the ground

or run around ur opponent

[lone trench]

^. Without a doubt heavy projectiles characters can’t be balanced in this game.

[frail sluice]

You don’t go into freefall after an airdodge? What smash game are you playing brev

[bold brook]

I'm glad Multiversus doesn't have free fall after using a recovery moves*

Black Adam still has an annoying up special since it's an actual recovery tool

[frail sluice]

The only thing I will give mvs over smash is netcode and that is it. I say this as someone who thinks mvs has the potential to rival smash one day

[ionic swan]

Using recovering moves and dodges will eventually put you into freefall in smash.

[silent nimbus]

if smash ever gets better netcode then i think it would be 100x better than mvs

i think mvs is probably one of the best examples in good fighting game netcode because most get it wrong

[lone trench]

Multiversus isnt even good. Smash is already better

[frail sluice]

Almost like the game knows the main objective of a platform fighter which is to knock your opponent off the stage.

[eager idol]

I was just making a joke
Raven is like…fine.

I just personally really dont like comeback gimmicks in competitive stuff

[lone trench]

Multiversus is being held back by balancing not servers

[eager idol]

Like oh man, Smash Bros SPAMMED comeback mechanics
Sephiroth Terry Lucario Joker like come on chill out with that

[silent nimbus]

smash is good when ur friends are nearby but when theyre across the street and want to play on their switch you will have the most horrific lag in the world

[ionic swan]

I like mvs more because it feels often like you have to actually kill the opponents vs just keeping them from coming back to the map

[bold brook]

being honest, Smash thrives off of it's offline play but otherwise yeah Smash online would be better

Seriously online holds Ultimate back

[ionic swan]

Like kills ofc happen in smash but I see alot of Gimping more in smash by ledgeGuarding where in mvs its way easier to recover back to stage and your opponent has to actually try and Ko you

[eager idol]

I was really bad at fighting stripe for a while cause i didnt know you could destroy the buzzsaw

[lone trench]

I only played those spirit adventures modes. I wasn’t good and everyone was such a sweat online

[frail sluice]

I respect that wholeheartedly. I love mvs too. My main issue is just ignoring the flaws of mvs and putting it in a higher position than smash

[ionic swan]

Plus Combos feel way more satisfying in MVS in my opinion

[lone trench]

Add broken too

[ionic swan]

I dont ignore the flaws. My whole reason for bring up smash was to say its not perfect either

[bold brook]

I think most of my time in Ultimate was in World of Light & Spirits instead of online modes

[ionic swan]

Thats all.

[silent nimbus]

I like the feeling of attacking in smash because there has never been a moment where ive played smash and ive asked "how did they hit me" or "how did I hit my opponent" but in this game I do

[eager idol]

Smash isnt perfect but like
Comparing it to multiversus is just setting the latter up for failure

[frail sluice]

I’m aware of that, but we cannot put smash flaws and mvs flaws in the same category

[bold brook]

golden rule: NEVER compare other platform fighters to smash

[eager idol]

Exactlyyy
Like its very few times in smash where im playing and i lose and im like “i know damn well that didnt hit me”

[silent nimbus]

true smash is like a dusty mansion and multiversus has black mold covering every inch

[ionic swan]

Honestly mvs is starting to feel way different than smash and I think my error was comparing them period

[silent nimbus]

smith

[frail sluice]

Agent smith you win at the css

[ionic swan]

Harley is op rn, Batman hes less bad

[eager idol]

Arya stark. The game says shes an expert character but a crippled monkey could play her at the top level

[frail sluice]

That’s fair. Personally I would compare it more to brawlhalla more than anything bc they both play similarly and are live services

[lone trench]

Yea it was so fun. If multiversus has those kind of gamemodes they would be top 5 fighting games imo.

I think they attempted to make a cheap copy of spirit with rift

[silent nimbus]

only time I ever question it is when its too perfect, like playing piranha plant and throwing a spike ball perfectly and it automatically kills or something like that

[ionic swan]

I dont hate smash, But I do hate Nintendo for killing the game almost, if thats fair

[frail sluice]

To truly understand where mvs can succeed you gotta look at how brawlhalla managed to keep an active community for this long

[silent nimbus]

if it makes you feel better sakurai is working on another game, i dont think its smash personally but a lot of people think the next gen nintendo console will have smash

[atomic dust]

Velma is the most slept on and broken characters I've ever fought, I just got tossed around by one and it doesn't help that I'm playing the slowest character in the game 😭

[lone trench]

Brawlhalla isn’t even that comparable to most fighting games.

[bold brook]

Multiversus does feel more like Brawlhalla than Smash (and how CN characters are crossover skins before MVS existed)

[ionic swan]

It weird to me. I think its just Brawlhalla had a better community, because Brawlhalla looks kinda boring to me

[frail sluice]

But mvs is prolly the closest to it due to the live service factor

They’re both games that get biweekly - monthly patches

And still have active communities that care about the game albeit one is less negative than the other

[ionic swan]

I dont mind the live service, it gets Updates very often and the devs can remove broken things instantly until fixed on the spot

[bold brook]

the game feels like quantity over quality yet it has ""quality"" from a loyal playerbase and a large roster

[frail sluice]

I will only ever compare smash to smth like rivals or nasb2 bc fundamentally they’re similar games

[ionic swan]

Rivals was made for melee fans

[frail sluice]

And sometimes mvs bc of representation

Crossover platform fighter with titans in media and entertainment

[lone trench]

Multiversus liveservice - ppg had a true 0td combo for an entire season
Multiversus liveservice - Arya had a true 0td for half a season

[lone trench]

Actually ppg can still true 0td 😭

[silent nimbus]

dont forget in beta when harley had a infinite combo for like 6 months

[round flame]

not to forget that we get a new character every month

[frail sluice]

Stuff like this takes time tho which is why I give pfg some props cuz they’re able to bang out content and attempt to fix the game as often as they can

[fierce seal]

Why is jack still applying weakened?

[bold brook]

I'm surprised 0-death combos aren't completely gutted yet

[ionic swan]

Im glad we agree on some things

[lone trench]

Damn I’m happy I never got hit by this

[ionic swan]

Smash had almost 2 decades to polish their formula

[frail sluice]

As long as mvs lives we cool bra

[silent nimbus]

the funniest part is when they continued to buff her

[round flame]

There is also the fact that WB does not let PFG do the things that they wanna, like promotions and make the game more accesible, the development is all PFG but besides that WB has a say in almost everything

[ionic swan]

I wanna give these devs that clearly care alot the time to make things work

I really like WB Ip and We need more platfighters in the genre

[lone trench]

ppg true zero to deaths were only possible because of a perk.

They simple just had to remove all her perk and make a balanced one, orremove the character like they did with iron giant

[lone trench]

I don’t mind easily diable 0td. But true 0td are just broken

[oblique knot]

Reindog sair does it have crazy hitstun or is that just me?

[silent nimbus]

iron giant should be made slightly larger than jason tbh

[ionic swan]

PPG players been begging for buffs not knowing what high level play for her looks like clearly

[lone trench]

Yea it does

[oblique knot]

Right it goes into everything

[bold brook]

True 0-death combos aren't fun at all nor healthy for a game

[oblique knot]

I thought it was just me

[ionic swan]

The good thing is WB is starting to communicate with us alittle more. The roadMap for this season was done by WB not PFG

[lone trench]

^, most “mid tier” characters. They just need to get better

[frail sluice]

Personally I just want them to buff lesser used moves in some kits rather than buffing the already good ones

Harley sair did not need a buff at all

[ionic swan]

I prefer buffs to the roster than nerfs

[fierce seal]

Why is jack still applying weakened?? If you're going to remove weakened REMOVE it. Don't keep it in the files

[oblique knot]

Have you noticed the game is sairversus now?

[silent nimbus]

which is why we should buff jake

[frail sluice]

When everyone is broken, no one will be

[oblique knot]

First it was jabversus then it was nairversus now it’s sairversus

[silent nimbus]

exactly thats why every beta character should return to how they were except for finn

[lone trench]

#clips message
idk man it felt pretty fun to do

[ionic swan]

Listen, they stop gutting Taz for no reason and buff him more in line with the rest of the Roster I will Shake on that.

[oblique knot]

Wanna see what Tom combos look like now? They are all reads and it sucks💔

[oblique knot]

Taz doesn’t need fast fall nado I’m sorry

[ionic swan]

I kinda wanna see his whole kit be viable not have 2-3 moves he relys on

[frail sluice]

The one thing I want to see is them revert Taz boot back to the fast apple

I loved that move in the beta for combos

[oblique knot]

Taz kills way to early for an assassin (consistently) and that’s why people have a problem with him

[ionic swan]

Thanks you, give it two charges and be boot on cooldown

[lone trench]

Im not gonna play Nubia in 1s until midseason patch. Im tryna learn a mage to play 😁

[frail sluice]

Chat he cooked…

[silent nimbus]

the one move i never want to see again is finns gem

[oblique knot]

So is that a yes?

[ionic swan]

Thats kinda what assassins are suppose to try and do is kill early

[oblique knot]

There supposed to string you into combos killing at 70 is way early

[frail sluice]

If he was able to pick up the boot or smth like anvil and have it be a weak projectile taz could have some crazy combos with that

[lone trench]

I wanna learn tnj. But it feelslike as soon as Jerry gets 1 hit its over

[zenith holly]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-uni-cat-unico-uni-uni-cat-cute-uni-cat-comb-gif-1038712284212645603

[wooden belfry]

They nerfed finns every attempt to kill early so much he cant do it anymore

[oblique knot]

Here check #clips I’ll show you some combos

[frail sluice]

Best change is just keep him as a bruiser

Assassin is a weird spot for him

[silent nimbus]

now replace it with the brush that kills whoever touches the bristles

[ionic swan]

Taz kills early if you make reads

Alot of this stuff outside falling Nair > Jab1 > DownTilt > Low hop Nair > Sair is true

[raven goblet]

How was it today

[ionic swan]

I had better luck I did some 1v1 so less rng involved

Sometimes 2v2 bruh

It either is an amazing time or a cheesefest

[oblique knot]

You see them clips @lone trench?

[lone trench]

These actually look nice asf, I used to hate on tnj by him being the only character which I didn’t buy #clips message

but I like the way how you play him

[raven goblet]

Or just straight ridiculous

[oblique knot]

I use dynamite as bait for more combos lolz

[ionic swan]

We had Badluck. Really BadLuck those games. Surely it cant be the same next time

[lone trench]

Im definitely gonna learn him, but my main problem is

When opponents di away on paddle you can’t really do I follow up right?

[ionic swan]

That gameCrash while we were winning was my last straw that Night

[oblique knot]

Just enough hitstun for another combo

[oblique knot]

Not that I’m aware of

Your best way to play Tom is with reads and use dynamite as a combo starter so bait them to run into it makes your move flow a lot better

[lone trench]

Because I always do di away and they never hit up air or sair

[raven goblet]

🙃
Bro hasn’t met me yet

[oblique knot]

Your best paddle combos are paddle into sair and then paddle into down tilt is your best killing move

[raven goblet]

You can’t make it up……
Nobody believes the stuff I go through until the have ti experience it

[oblique knot]

You cancel your paddle for down tilt and you finish the whole paddle animation for sair

[lone trench]

Oh ok ok thanks, today I will probably only play casuals, since my tnj will start at plat already

[oblique knot]

Alright if you need me for any Tom and rat advice I’m around just give me a holler

[lone trench]

Yea I got you 🫡

[wooden belfry]

Tom and rat? i cannot in goodness take this jerry slander. hes the better of the 2 anyway

[oblique knot]

Ha the size of a New York rat he’s a rat and I main him so I get main privileges

[wooden belfry]

Why does tom get the name privilege then? but why u gotta slander jerry im not a tom and jerry main but when i play them jerry always carries

[oblique knot]

False information paddle carries

[wooden belfry]

Jerry rocket on top

[sharp moon]

Yo is it weird to eat pickles at 3am?

[wooden belfry]

Why are u up at 3 and why did u decide to eat pickles instead of going to sleep?

[sharp moon]

Because I can't sleep and I was hungry??

wtf is wrong with eating pickles

[spark hill]

You asked the chat is it weird to eat pickles what's the point of the question if you're going to respond like that lmao

[fierce seal]

Pickle in the fridge

[wooden belfry]

why eat pickles when u can become a pickle? become pickle rick

[sharp moon]

He isn't in the game

[wooden belfry]

Irl

[spark hill]

I don't understand why this has not become a costume yet smh

[wooden belfry]

Pretty sure it was leaked since the beta. idk why morty spaceship or crow rick hasnt been added. WE LITTERALY SAW SPACESHIP MORTY IN THE MID SEASON INTO THE VERSE

[fierce seal]

Probably because they don't want money

[spark hill]

What a shame 🥱

[fierce seal]

I'm just glad rick is in a great spot right now. I had to quit him when they put the delay on his side tilt because he was unplayable

[atomic dust]

I swear if I have to deal with another Batman/Harley Quinn I'm gonna crash out

[fierce seal]

I"m bored af of jack every game in 2v2. He's fine in 1v1 but he's so spam friendly in 2's

[atomic dust]

Yuppp

[spark hill]

@fierce seal I have respect for Rick players that actually play him really well

[atomic dust]

Facts

I don't think I've ever played again a bad velma player before because I rarely see anyone playing her
(Probably my matchmaking)

[tepid thunder]

Like bhands

[ionic swan]

Rick and two crows skin coming, his ray gun attack gets changed to a crow flying at you. Lol JK

[atomic dust]

I'm bouta cop that when it comes out

[ionic swan]

When???

Im joking about that skin

[atomic dust]

Damn 😭

Well if it ever becomes a skin I'm buying it

[ionic swan]

Would be cool

[raven echo]

Leak bot be like (cocks gun)

[ionic swan]

I didnt say leak

Oof Now I did.

[fierce seal]

Awe 🥲 . He's the right mix of mind games and pressure when you aren't just relying on laser. Nobody knows what I'm gonna do next 😛

[raven echo]

I SAY- I SAY- TRY IT AGAIN BOY. 🐓

[ionic swan]

I cant speculate in chat otherwise people think Im leaking I guess

[fierce seal]

Rick is what Raven should be closer too. She's jsut a little too slow imo. Tone down her side air and balance her out elsewhere and she'll be a lot better. She's too predictable

[sharp moon]

Buff morty

[raven echo]

(Reloads) 🗿

[ionic swan]

Hes the second coming @raven echo

[raven echo]

I miss the legend

[sharp moon]

ok seriously who needs buffs and nerfs

[fierce seal]

Morty is a tough one... his projectiles are too strong. So when he's buff he's miserable to vs

[ionic swan]

Fighting Morty is bullet hell

[raven echo]

🗿

[fierce seal]

I find marvin more bullet hell personally. Morty is more of a shotgun

[ionic swan]

Morty is like, I got Dirted, there goes my life

[fierce seal]

Just save a dodge for dirt. better to get hit by a fair then by dirt

I think Gizmo could use the most love right now. He's extremely gimmick reliant.

[eager idol]

I used to want gizmo killed with hammers but i think hes okay

[sharp moon]

Buff Morty and Marvin

[eager idol]

I dont think any projectile heavy character should get sizable buffs

[sharp moon]

what about superman

he got that ice breath

[eager idol]

What about him

[sharp moon]

he get buffs or nah

[eager idol]

Maybe

[deep crescent]

Not a single air attack should have priority over a grounded up

[eager idol]

REAL

[brisk crescent]

Ice breath didn't get a buff. They just made it so that you can't hold it infinitely

[restive jay]

Hey guys, what're we fighting about today?

[sharp moon]

fr?

[brisk crescent]

Yep

[lone trench]

Just fought a bugs and there was 3 rockets on screen 💀

#clips message
wtf is this

[deep crescent]

Hot take: There should only be one of any given class type in ranked duos

[lone trench]

💀

[ionic swan]

Just Wrestling with ourselves today

[sharp moon]

That sounds wrong

[ionic swan]

You never put urself in a NeckLock before?

[restive jay]

it's a mood

[sharp moon]

[ionic swan]

[sharp moon]

This is why taz is mid

[ionic swan]

Yes he is Mid. Buff Please

[sharp moon]

Nerf him give him the IG treatment

[ionic swan]

[analog current]

character select/switch would be cool in casual

[ionic swan]

That‘d be cool

[gilded parrot]

LOL this

[royal wren]

does anyone know how to unmap a button? i was trying combinations and i just want to go back to my previous controller input

[gilded parrot]

default settings

[royal wren]

oop, just found it after 20 minutes, thank you so much lmaooo

[gilded parrot]

<3

[sharp moon]

We fighting about not having anything to fight about

[half roost]

Skibidi toilet is OP

Oops wrong chat 😭

[ionic swan]

Skibidi Toilet‘s dead. I flushed him.

[bold verge]

why theres no voice calls?

[ionic swan]

You think thats a wise Idea with how salty players get in this game?

[bold verge]

?

[ionic swan]

Ur asking why this discord has no voicecalls right?

[bold verge]

yeah they dissapeared

[ionic swan]

Probably for good reason

[bold verge]

alr

[bold verge]

oh i mistaken this server with another:D

[ionic swan]

Lol oh

[zenith agate]

They reworked batman and finn, the way ghopo talked about it sounded like he was gonna work on more characters after finn so have some faith‼️

[half roost]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[pseudo quartz]

SO I'm looking for people to play the game with for the party animal achievement.

[lavish karma]

Can someone help me complete the fend? 1 star is missing for me to complete

[whole bridge]

Yall have to go to #lfg-casual for those questions yall asking

@pseudo quartz @lavish karma

[pseudo quartz]

Okay, TY, got it.

[whole bridge]

Np

[lone trench]

@oblique knot tnj is just not for me 😔

[quiet lintel]

[glossy breach]

I'm the joker baby

[ionic swan]

From the Bottom of the Deck!

[glossy breach]

COMIN AT YE

[worthy violet]

yippee

[worthy violet]

how can you afford to commit your lavish crimes?

[glossy breach]

the batman funds me

[worthy violet]

makes sense

[unreal tulip]

Seeing your pfps together it looks like @worthy violet wants a slice of pizza but @glossy breach got no intention to share XD

[glossy breach]

LMFAOOO I didn't notice that

I'm not sharing 😒

[unreal tulip]

Just as expected XD

[winter saffron]

banana guard requires no skill

[vivid finch]

same with bugs tbh most high tier fighters are pretty cookie cutter

[winter saffron]

literally. Every high ranked fighter does the same stuff it's like theyre following an instruction set

[vivid finch]

boring af coming from a reindog main

god i hate raven

[gilded parrot]

It exists, because it works.. coming from Smash to this game was a HUGE adjustment. Mainly because how much detail upon detail; 1,000s of hours of play testing.. etc. Ultimate had... 17-18? Patches. This game has like 5 a week and nobody is ever happy lol.

There use to be a time, were we waited happily for months.. excited to see what came next in fighting games. 🥹

[pseudo quartz]

Should I buy Raven? I have 28/32 fighters, and my next two options are either Harley or Taz, then it’s the one I didn’t pick, and then Arya, and then Raven.

[vivid finch]

Yeah but what’s coming next is exactly the same. I’m not happy with it bc characters like Raven and Joker are classified as mages but play closer to Tanks, same with Rick. He literally becomes a tank. The games fan base is dying. They’ve lost over $1,000,000 on MV and it’s not getting any better. Most fighting games you can play off meta to a certain degree and be just fine if your skill itself is better then the opponents but this game it literally does not matter.

This is coming from someone who hit top 25 with Reindog in 1s twice now. none of my matchups are easy and i’m constantly on the back foot.

[lone trench]

I can’t take this. Why are they allowing superman to have that upspecial

It’s literally broken.

[gilded parrot]

Nah dude. STEAM is loosing millions because of their packet loss / disconnects/ overlays etc. Multiverses IS fun as f*ck. At the end of the day, u have to admit that.

[lone trench]

Im just trying out different characters but people in low ranks play miserable

They play more golds/plats play more miserable than majority of the GM

[gilded parrot]

Get good I guess :/

[lone trench]

1v1

[gilded parrot]

Noooo I'm not trying to loose money LOL

[lone trench]

Nah I’m just playing but damn they need to do some nerfs to these characters 😭

[vivid finch]

it can be? if you’re running a top tier. Seriously, go play Reindog in ones and tell me he’s viable and fun, or Taz, Morty Etc. The moment you hit a Jason i guarantee you’ll see my point.

[gilded parrot]

When I said get good... I meant.... we all agree.. basically lol

Bro, my first week streaming this, I played 5 of the top 20 ppl in the world.

And became good friends with them.

[vivid finch]

that’s how dead the fan base is? jesus. this game is doomed.

[gilded parrot]

What u mean?

No no no, I wasn't GOOD

I got randomly raided by the number 4 player in the world, and I took his first stock.

It was hilarious and amazing and lucky, but that's how I got my start..

Also, to ur point, I LOVE playing "low tier" characters. That's what makes u show up in the world.

[rain tapir]

[knotty laurel]

Does anyone recommend i get smash bros or muklt verse?

[analog jackal]

What is it with the Joker being able to hold his air acid flower attack indefinitely? Is this intended? Is it getting nerfed? Because it's just ridiculous

[gilded parrot]

Depends on how u wanna spend money

[unreal tulip]

[rain tapir]

is it time to game again?

[unreal tulip]

give me some 10 minutes
spending my microsoft points to get a controller

[rain tapir]

👍

[ionic swan]

Did you say Taz struggles against a Jason? Or am I reading this wrong?…

[ionic swan]

If you play games locally go Smash, if you want to focus heavily on Online go Multiversus

[unreal tulip]

logging in

[rain tapir]

👍

let me finish this match

[wooden belfry]

No jump off now

[dapper oar]

Both honestly.

The buy in for Multiversus isn't particularly high.

[rain tapir]

👎

[wooden belfry]

🤓

[unreal tulip]

lol

[rain tapir]

im not even gonna ask what happened

[unreal tulip]

shaggy charging up stage, so I just upB into upair, dead

at 0

[rain tapir]

incredible move from the shaggy

[glossy breach]

shaggy needs nerf

[white stag]

bro they will add harry potter to the game?

or an alien from ben 10

[white stag]

like upgrade

[tranquil bronze]

Why do SJ, Smith, Batman and Superman all have AMAZING FRAME ADVANTAGE out of dodge? They can just dodge and mash and win, it's highkey unfair against characters not in A tier.

[tranquil bronze]

Hopefully the game will be long dead by then. It's garbage

[white stag]

yesn't

[wooden belfry]

Then dont play it

[tranquil bronze]

Only reason MV is played is because it's free, and nobody knows how good flash party is.

[white stag]

this game has a big future

[white stag]

yes

[tranquil bronze]

Not wrong, it's an easy thing to do and say, but I offer the argument above. It's a well populated game, while the superior platform fighter is just about dead and populated by bots to give the illusion it's alive. Flash party is older, so it has that going against MV, which is newer.

[white stag]

i can win from they. Just use Tom & Jerry

[languid plaza]

Catching the best zeds of my life Duma

[white stag]

bro wrote a law article 💀

[tranquil bronze]

Bro is mature and not killed by brainrot and born before 2005.

[wooden belfry]

If all your gonna say is that flash party is better than go play that game💀 no ones forcing u to stay in the mvs discord server hating. if u dont like the game dont play it simple as that. leave it to those who like it

[white stag]

simple

[tranquil bronze]

Again, fair. And again, I would, but I like playing Vs humans. I just wish the balance was better in this game, that was my main argument. (But I would recommend at least trying FP)

[white stag]

bro, this game is my childhood (it contains very old characters and cartoons that marked generations)

[white stag]

cool

[unreal tulip]

their hurtboxes are complete garbage, all attacks whiffed through them

[rain tapir]

15 damage per banana move is fineeeeeeeee

[unreal tulip]

but noooo, it's Shaggy everything that's wrong in this game
add shields because Marvin is terrible to fight against

[white stag]

someone knows play with Tom & jerry

[wooden belfry]

just dodge fr

[rain tapir]

👎

[unreal tulip]

if it had any whiff maybe

[languid wedge]

Is the item shop broken for anyone else?

[white stag]

use Jason's special

[tranquil bronze]

Honestly I feel this game would be fantastic to play if dodge iFrames were reduced by half.

Parry and tech were great additions though

[white stag]

bro is angry the whole game because of this

[tranquil bronze]

Please stop calling me bro it's cringe

[wooden belfry]

Bro chillax

[wooden belfry]

[tranquil bronze]

🤔

[unreal tulip]

That Jake was trying his best

[rain tapir]

he was annoying

i was clipping the finn then he had to come ruin the fun

this nubia is perfectly showcasing why this game needs line of sight

[white stag]

bro used cringe

[unreal tulip]

@rain tapir had to change my battery, ffs

[rain tapir]

[tranquil bronze]

And one more thing, the fact that diamond rank players can switch to a new character and then play in bronze is stupid.

[thorn blade]

What? That's incorrect they start at Gold after one win.

[tranquil bronze]

Legit?

[thorn blade]

Well actually nvm only masters do

That's mb I forgot

[tranquil bronze]

I'm getting players with the diamond belt, the ranked diamond badge etc and then just propping up in silver, as bronze/silver rank players

[unreal tulip]

serves them right

hitting me when I'm on my lowest point

(of battery charge)

[cinder field]

raven has the most broken hurtboxes in the game bruh

her thighs and her head's hurtbox is non-existent aswell as her hands whener she raise them up

im tired of fighting against ghost bruuu

im 6'3 tho

[vagrant thunder]

@queen knoll I'm in your ranked match rn.

[queen knoll]

WHAT

[vagrant thunder]

I'm the WW with the Jake. XD

[queen knoll]

OMG

[vagrant thunder]

You have a rick on your team.

[queen knoll]

OKAY

[vagrant thunder]

xD

[drowsy hill]

Mod vs Mod

[vagrant thunder]

I never thought it would happen.

[queen knoll]

LMAO??

[torpid gulch]

So bad

[unreal tulip]

hey, mods hogging the channel? did I miss something terrible?

[torpid gulch]

No the is just that the mods love this name just as much as us

[vagrant thunder]

Jesus. I got killed at like 30. 🥹

[queen knoll]

@vagrant thunder ggs man

[thorn blade]

What?! Rooting for you!

[vagrant thunder]

GG's @queen knoll

[torpid gulch]

So bad

[queen knoll]

WOOOOOOOOO

IM SO HAPPY I WON LMAO

my friend carried

[vagrant thunder]

You're cheers are too late.

[worn ferry]

getting killed at 30 is pretty easy this game can be cheesy

[thorn blade]

Oof

[thorn blade]

Fr

[vagrant thunder]

I was doing so bad.

Idk why but I'm just underperforming with WW immensely since last season.