general

[rancid jackal]

Fighter currency to get who you want and fighter road for general roster progression

[normal fulcrum]

Yah thats kinda the thing. I think this system is fine though, I grinded out raven in 2 days without spending currency that would have taken a lot longer to earn. Of couse I think the system fails at being a system for new players though

I just disagree. I have a ton of FC but did this road just to try it and if anything its easier than the old currency grind was

[junior flax]

what happened to all the currency I was saving?

[normal fulcrum]

Still have it

[lunar canopy]

Guys should I buy black lantern superman or trigon I can't choose they are both great 😂

[junior flax]

trigon

[normal fulcrum]

trigon

[rancid jackal]

Understandable, but my question to you is why grind the fighter road if u have fc

[dark igloo]

Trigon supes is great but its lame they didn't get the voice actor for Trigon to match the skin.

[normal fulcrum]

well i wanted to try it, no rush to try raven and i was climbing to masters anyway at the time

[analog stirrup]

I have 30k FC, i saved them for every new chars release when they arrive in fighter road and fighter store like Raven
grinding fighter road just to get all chars as possible, as long we get chars that we want, then we're good

[normal fulcrum]

And upon trying it I can say I dont think it was too bad but if you really wanted to try a character yah its a bum deal

[gritty flax]

Personally, I don't like the new way. I don't mind grinding in games. When it's fun and done right but in this game it's slow and tedious.

[unreal tulip]

I have 54k FC but still didn't bother spending them on Raven.
Now I can play, but what if I return later and don't really wanna grind the road?

[winter saffron]

fighter currency was a fantastic system and im upset they removed it

[dark igloo]

Guys, about fighter roads. Like, seriously they need to give us some kind of credits that can be used to unlock future characters or atleast talk them into making it 10k instead of 15k points needed.

[winter saffron]

question about fighter road.
if you have all the fighters, does your work go towards future characters?

[unreal tulip]

the main issue is still the lack of choice of who you wanna grind

[minor gulch]

I feel like road map needs to go. I don’t see how you get the characters you want all I see is the characters I don’t play so I think the concept is stupid on top of having to purchase to use them. I think arenas is the best mode they came up with and is promising if they continue to work on it and make it better. I feel like rifts can go, I get the concept, but it’s boring, and dull. Sorry for those who like that mode but it’s a waste of space and memory for the game to me. I think elevating arenas would be best. And taking out all the other modes. Keep the gamepass but for goodness sake make it worth the purchase because the last two seasons was trash as far as game pass get rid of the pointless badges in the pass and put in more customers or something else. Fix the glitches of course which probably should run smoother without having the boring rifts and useless road map. Plus stop having multiple events keep them to a minimum and release them when 1 ends. I want to believe in this game but after trying to play yesterday I almost said forget it but already invested some money into the game. I want it to win but their team has to come up with better pretty much everything in order to continue. After many attempts from other games similar before it besides smash bros of course (games that copied before multiverses) were trash but this game has the potential they keep dropping the ball. Asking for more money of course to keep the game rolling but why keep spending if the game is never moving forward and getting better

[elder chasm]

You can't stack fighter road unlike fc

[unreal tulip]

no, goes to battle pass, with a reduced multiplier

[analog stirrup]

i don't mind about 15k points, but that's good idea and also allow players choose which chars that they want to grind

[winter saffron]

that is the worst idea ever

[normal fulcrum]

Like I said, I think the worst people impacted are new players, boosted skins help the grind alot too. Like I think if you spam rifts that let you play raven it goes fast as well

[analog stirrup]

MY EYES

[frozen ferry]

🤫

[normal fulcrum]

Ehhhh it had its limitations. Like not letting people grind it and being event dependent

[dark igloo]

Geez let me get my glasses, Stephen King. You wrote a novel there.

[livid elbow]

yea honestly the fighter credits were better... I got plenty of them through regular play to keep up with new characters... feels like I could end up stacking characters on the road faster than I unlock them

[dark igloo]

Feel like there has to be something for it. I'm putting in time to play the game more so reward me for it at least.

[elder chasm]

Bro the problem is they won't care enough to read all that 😭

[gritty flax]

Yeah, I totally agree with the new players since they'll be stuck with Shaggy and a few selected fighters. But I have Raven and A Trigon Possessed Skin and it still feels slow.

[lunar canopy]

Bought it rn

[dark igloo]

Are you talking about that you can't choose the fighter you want to grind for?

[minor gulch]

@dark igloo ha ha I wanted to get it all out at in rummy bad guys. I just believe in the game because this has been the best attempt for this kind of platform and they just keep dropping it lol

[frozen ferry]

Please balance this game man lol starting with shaggy

[elder chasm]

Yup

[normal fulcrum]

I guess it depends how often you look at it too.I played a lot on the 2 days it took me to get it and time flew by. But yah releasing a super popular character then making it really hard to unlock her for new/returning players was certainly the move of all time

[lunar canopy]

Yea fighter road sucks fighter currency was a way better option..We have to keep unlocking old fighters to start unlocking new ones

[frozen ferry]

There’s no valid reason his ground smash should have a random grab mechanic

That stuns btw fkin stupid

[elder chasm]

[minor gulch]

@elder chasm damn if they do damn if they don’t, but you gotta try! Because what else is they doing. Who ever behind making the decision sometime probably need a bigger team or more eyes and ears and people scoping out the discard to get ideas and help elevate the game

[dark igloo]

what if they just make it a 6k grind, thats like what 2 hours of playing?

[gritty flax]

Same, I play mostly everyday but doesn't feel like I'm getting far as I should be.

[minor gulch]

Jason is a monster I don’t understand how you have a guard grab

@gritty flax agreed

[elder chasm]

They are pawns
They don't make the decisions
Fighter road was supposed to be with fc

[dark igloo]

it probably be better if they made it like 3k for previous season of characters and make it 6k for the new ones.

[minor gulch]

@frozen ferry please shaggy is annoying lol

[gritty flax]

Thanks 👍

[frozen ferry]

Devs are too butt buddy about shaggy to do anything to the character

[normal fulcrum]

how much xp is needed and how far are you?

[frozen ferry]

All of shaggy moves hit like a truck

[normal fulcrum]

wonder woman is their child

[limpid grove]

You can get raven with fighter currency

[lunar canopy]

Fighter road sucks it should be removed next season it's gonna take forever to unlock new characters

[minor gulch]

@elder chasm they need to do better at whatever how this works behind the scenes because not only just this game but games have been trash lately. I haven’t ran into a game I can say I was super excited about I mean I enjoyed them but it didn’t hit like they did back then.

[unreal tulip]

yeah, that sounds like a given to give a player a reason to grind towards somethign they actually want, and not arbitrary

[minor gulch]

@lunar canopy agreed keep arenas make it better give it love but please get rid of road map lol

[lunar canopy]

Fighter currency should have stayed 100%

[elder chasm]

I still have mid game lag since launch
And fc should coexist with the road
To make unlocking characters easier

[frozen ferry]

Both

[dark igloo]

the regular gold coins should had stayed.

[gritty flax]

24/32, I'm on Reindog rn. It's characters I will unlock and probably never play and only use for a mission or two.

[fallen coyote]

This

[dark igloo]

ngl they kinda swiped 108k gold from me.

[thorn blade]

No, I don't mean he's top tier I mean he's the most fun

[dark igloo]

there was no conversion for it and I ended up having to gather fight tokens to get the rest of my characters.

[thorn blade]

Wow

I see.

[elder chasm]

Ngl the UI on the beta looked unique
You knew it was mvs

[minor gulch]

@elder chasm agreed. It’s like each season to me they make grinding harder, and make more micro transactions. I mean I get it you need the money funds for the game, but now you’re looking more like a money grab to make up for huge losses. This game been in boiling water for a hot min and is still probably losing players, but to keep making mircotransactions at that that most times not really worth it and not making it better all at the same times looks really bad. Sometimes you just have to take the lost, get better, than feel confident about charging players you know

[junior flax]

IAD uair isn’t always true but you can use that to your advantage by doing Jab 1, Jab 2, short hop into follow up

[dark igloo]

I feel like there should be a minimal layout mode for older consoles as it tends to lag while in the character selection screen.

[minor gulch]

@elder chasm I do to. The day before yesterday it ran pretty smooth all day when I played then yesterday everything was lagging or really bad delay.

[dark igloo]

if anyone can contact them about that I would be greatful.

[thorn blade]

Huh never thought of that.

[junior flax]

I can demonstrate later today maybe

[hidden mantle]

absolutely unfun to play in 1s, thrives in 2s as long as your teammate doesnt let them bully you

[junior flax]

Jason is fun in ones

he’s like better iron giant

[elder chasm]

Yeah its random

[dark igloo]

Question to jason players. Why the lack of IAD Dspec?

[junior flax]

its mid

[hidden mantle]

not against like half the roster

[dark igloo]

im not talking about sleeping bag btw

[thorn blade]

Cool

[thorn blade]

True

[tender yew]

omg the raven left-right-left-right juggle with jason is so f*cking lame..wtf

[edgy mauve]

I love playing Jason but against Raven is just boring cause of that

[tender yew]

i just jump in after...rather lose points than play those people

dude im fcking bronze...i thought sweaty nerds only play gold+? (yes im raged so sorry for being negative)

[warm holly]

hold up, i play iron giant and without bolts he gets hit by the same thing. you have to hold up and go with the way shes swinging and hopefully youll get either too far horizontally or vertically

[tender yew]

yeah i know i SHOULD DI somewhere...its just so lame people use it was more my point and it goes so fast at 0% that im not good enough to di the right side i mean one throw takes .5 seconds in my eyes so fast

[gritty flax]

Yeah, got done fighing a Raven with PPG and somehow I get hit by her side special even though I was under it.

[warm holly]

oh ye its annoying as hell, nakat said smthn about it on twitter tho psure so they might look into it

prolly a repeat move lockout

[safe crystal]

superman players are stupid

[bronze fox]

Try fighting a BA that spams claps and that stupid lightning ball over and over every time it goes off cooldown

[hidden mantle]

fighting one rn lmao

[bronze fox]

Welcome to spam hell lmao

[thorn blade]

R.I.P

[bronze fox]

Also I have some gripes with Beej, why the hell does the sandworm count as a projectile? I get the bomb and the beetle, but seeing a Finn with the armored buns thing on and "dodging" the sandworm feels so lame man

[tender yew]

good lets hope...i mean i know jason isnt top tier and im noob so i get im fighting uphill..but geez :/ some players and characters are such a toxic combo it makes me wanna stop playing a bit sometimes. And thats exactly what I do not want: to quit because of toxicity in a fighting game

[merry nova]

So don't. That last part is entirely up to you

[gritty flax]

The only way I cancel it out is using my side speical.

[tender yew]

easily said then done when you keep getting matched to the same person too..omg and to add: why do i get matched with silver 2 people when im bronze? like give me someone my own skill D;

[merry nova]

It's not easier said than done. If you wanna get better at the game, the only thing to do is to play it. There will be things that bother you about ANY game, especially fighting games. It's not a matter of whether or not every single source of pain can be taken out of the game. CAN YOU get past something like that? CAN YOU learn the matchups, the tactics that allow you to get around toxic stuff? Nobody can do that for you except you. It's a mental choice

[glossy breach]

well eventually you're gonna have to get good enough to beat somebody like that if you wanna compete in ranked

[south stump]

do you need to play as raven to get ranked raven skins?

[thorn blade]

no

[tender yew]

FYI, this is what i get matched against as bronze player: https://streamable.com/crr864

Tell me this is fun :/

[merry nova]

No

[glossy breach]

I'm top 100 joker are we arch enemy's

[hidden mantle]

there was a time smith was honorable

[tender yew]

is he buffed or ?

[glossy breach]

maybe he never was and people figured out how to abuse him

[thorn blade]

Hm nah bc I respect Joker mains who get there with him. But I still gotta bring you to justice.

[hidden mantle]

he got some huge buffs i think in season 3

[merry nova]

"Your madness would be genuinely intriguing...if it wasn't so destructive"

[hidden mantle]

which sucks because i loved playing smith until he got cranked up to 100

[glossy breach]

you'll never take me alive. and batman got nerfed so respect to you too

[open girder]

he was balanced

[merry nova]

Ey man, you didn't make the decision to overtune him. If you were playing him before, and you enjoy him, just keep doin it. Not a specific person's job to balance a character. 😛

[frozen ferry]

Crazy how u can do the same move with Jake and it goes unpunished

360 degree hitbox

[unreal tulip]

don't get me started on Jason

[glossy breach]

Jason pretty crazy rn lol

[frozen ferry]

I feel like he’s always been insane

[sleek coyote]

RAHHH 🦅

[merry nova]

Jason feels awesome right now. He's finally the omega killer he was meant to be. He's always been powerful, but now with the movement upgrades, He's coming for ya

[sleek coyote]

jason has definitely been an issue since release. hella knockback for what with a wonky ass hitbox

[hidden mantle]

jason before buffs felt like i was playing tennis as the ball ngl

[frozen ferry]

I mean he’s still gonna get knocked around lol

[unreal tulip]

I only mentioned him to validate your participation to the chat

[frozen ferry]

As he should

[waxen grotto]

As a gizmo main, this is still true

[sleek coyote]

PLEASE 😭

[hidden mantle]

thanks bro 🤝

[merry nova]

Yeah he's still combo food, BUT now if you don't contain him properly, he will junk you up. Which is exactly what I wanna see

[frozen ferry]

Increase Batman movement by 5%

[open girder]

jumpscare jason

[hidden mantle]

seeing people spam jason's jab jab side special before it was nerfed made my blood boil

[waxen grotto]

Jason plays like a horror movie character. I think he's perfectly fine as he is now that the buffs have come.

[merry nova]

I think he's in a real solid place too

[waxen grotto]

Do we really wanna live in a world where Jason isn't a top tier

[final dune]

bruvvvaaa they gotta fix the game jus randomly disconnecting mid arena i swear its like 40% of games

[merry nova]

I mean at this point the only reason he's not one is just becasue there are other characters that are strong too. He's at least not bottom barrel for being too slow and too easy to handle. So I'm good with that

[frozen ferry]

One of the most annoying combos

[gritty flax]

Still use that combo but only when I know I can knock them out.

[thorn blade]

🫡

[thorn blade]

Yes

[merry nova]

I still go for my bnb. Jab Jab Stomp Hatchet hook machete smash.

Feels so good. nice and smooth

[glossy breach]

Jason will be even better when sheilds come

[dark igloo]

I think not

[hidden mantle]

i use it until they realize you can dodge out of jab jab stomp

[rancid jackal]

Every character will be better

[thorn blade]

^

[merry nova]

You can dodge out of the jab jab stomp? Really? I don't think I've ever seen anyone do it

[dark igloo]

I feel like marvin will still give Jason some issues.

[merry nova]

Is it damage based?

[hidden mantle]

it happened as a tradeoff when they gave his stomp more knockback

[merry nova]

Ahhhhhhh. Well shiet

They gave shaggy his stomp combo back, Jason shoulda got to keep his lol

[dark igloo]

give us Coffizilla perk xD

[safe crystal]

morty is the worst character in multiversus

[frozen ferry]

Why is garnet so strong bro lol

[rancid jackal]

Shaggy never lost his dtilt combos

[dark igloo]

why you always lying!~

[safe crystal]

try playing morty in ranked

[merry nova]

Okay.

[dark igloo]

haven't touched morty for ranked yet. But I've seen him "Struggle" in a few top level tournaments.

[kind jolt]

We used to pray for times like these

[frozen ferry]

Morty is insanely strong ngl

The nades are cracked

[glossy breach]

morty is fun to play

[dark igloo]

Granade Juggles

[frozen ferry]

And his standard combo is hella annoying 😭 the hammer 360

Bro all these characters have 360 degree hitboxes give Batman a grab or something

Might just main bugs

[merry nova]

Well. Just finished this seasons battlepass...in like a week

[frozen ferry]

I don’t like the shorter pass

[merry nova]

ME EITHER

I know there will be another one, But dang. I mean I know I've played a lot cause arena is exciting to me, sure sure, whatever, I shouldn't have finished the pass ina dang week

[frozen ferry]

Shorter and less stuff that’s just not appealing us having to wait on the actual pass to update.. players who play should just be able to by pass the wait threshold

[rancid jackal]

Samurai jack the only “high tier” that has 0 tournament results

[frozen ferry]

Why punish us for playing the game more?

[safe crystal]

Morty can't even kill at 120

[analog stirrup]

well, this season we'll get 2 BPs, each of them have 45 tier lvl
so it'll be 90 tiers in total
i'm personally fine or even prefer that BPs, but these depends on what rewards they give to us

[merry nova]

Right? I thought you WANTED us glued to the game. But now that we put in some time we just sit on our hands I guess

[frozen ferry]

Brother..his fire kills at 90+

[dark igloo]

I want to play learn and play Jake but I need to get atleast 3 tiers a day. Q-Q

[rancid jackal]

Cap up air kills at 90

[frozen ferry]

I’ve died many times to it surprisingly and I think it shouldn’t kill at 90 lmao

[rancid jackal]

Only characters surviving morty up air past 100 are tanks

[frozen ferry]

And if u play him right the nades are broken shields for him borderline cheese

[merry nova]

I can still work on my goal of bringing the whole roster to 15, so that keeps me focused, but what if someone's not interested in doing that? Everyone wants SOMETHING to play for. once you have all you can have...what do you do?

[frozen ferry]

Yeah Morty is as cracked as Rick tbh and Rick is even more insane..

Way too heavy too imo

[rancid jackal]

At least with shields we can approach him now without having to jump over side special

[frozen ferry]

Skinny mfker should die at 90+

There’s a lot of characters I have issues with tbh

Shaggy and smith being the highest

[rancid jackal]

Morty had great kill power and he can camp while also being one of the most inconsistent chars to do a combo on

[frozen ferry]

And has hella dodges lol

[safe crystal]

nope

[bitter fulcrum]

is it just me or is the rick and morty special damage weekly mission so inconsistent on what it counts

[rancid jackal]

Not to mention morty can often just armor and dodge his way out of disadvantage

[frozen ferry]

Best dodge in the game it seems like

And his teleport is amazing

[rancid jackal]

Morty impossible to edge guard

[dark igloo]

I was thinking Raven had the best dodge

[frozen ferry]

Nah

Morty dodge is long asf too

[rancid jackal]

Up special prevents spikes side special give you armor and tps and you can instantly dodge after

[merry nova]

I will say, having the bonus tiers now only cost 2k is nice, instead of 4k

Might be able to pick up some extra cheeky gleamium

[frozen ferry]

I would say the UFO is the weakest thing in his arsenal even the plumbus is pretty good now

I’ve seen crazy combos with it

[rancid jackal]

Nah ufo has a usage you can use it while on the wall and you guaranteed won’t get spiked

[frozen ferry]

Ah damn that’s smart

Yeah he’s S tier lol

[rancid jackal]

Cooldown up tilt is his weakest move

[dark igloo]

Let Taz have the ability to eat Rocket, UFO and Jerry again.

[frozen ferry]

Insane

Wait wtf he was able to eat the UFO?!

[dark igloo]

when marvin first came out he was able to eat it.

[spark cargo]

Taz like Kirby, he can eat anything.

[dark igloo]

It was some good damn times too lol

[frozen ferry]

I mean yeah but dang what about Jake lol?

Ima see if I can find clips of him eating the ufo lol

[dark igloo]

You know how hilarious it was to be able to completely shut down a Marvin and Bugs team.

[frozen ferry]

Borderline griefing lol

[dark igloo]

and then get a free anvil from it.

[austere tree]

The crashes are like clockwork on this game 😂

[dark igloo]

Man I miss fast anvil.

[frozen ferry]

I never seen the use of the anvil

[rancid jackal]

Taz can’t eat jerry? Now that just doesn’t make sense

[frozen ferry]

Jerry is so op in this game for no reason

[elfin basin]

if you emote early i will tbag you

[dark igloo]

Free Anvil fodder xD

[austere tree]

Jerry is just an indestructible projectile when he is airborne lol the devs did that on purpose

[frozen ferry]

Dumb decision

[rancid jackal]

That sure seems balanced

[frozen ferry]

“Yeah Jerry should totally not die to a batarang it makes sense” - dev

[brave flax]

Why are grasshoppers so unkillable, the moment I'm bout to step on it, it jumps away. I threw my backpack on it, guess what? It jumped away, its genuinely upsetting me

[dark igloo]

if they ever had another questionaire im going to mention bring back those things.

[austere tree]

I agree but I guess the devs don’t know how to nerf it so they just let it be

[frozen ferry]

They do

His priority is insane and the cork shouldn’t be a thing tbh

[austere tree]

Right I guess they figured it might as well be a “balanced” thing on this game

[frozen ferry]

Literally watch the show and let him do anything besides the fkin cork

Let him bring out speedy for all I care

[dark igloo]

just swiping a Bugs rocket ou the air was too satifying to do. Like peeling off the plastic of a new phone or popping bubble wrap lol

[frozen ferry]

Damn that satisfying lol

[austere tree]

Yeah that cork thing Jerry does just makes playing against them super hard. Cause it gives alot less consequence to using such a broken projectile move

[frozen ferry]

Increase his speed because he totally needed it

[dark igloo]

ohhh!! Taz was able to eat Safe too!

[frozen ferry]

It’s clearly time to nerf Batman again with this information .

[rancid jackal]

Pfg really cooked for allowing bg to be top tier

[obtuse berry]

TnJ would be garbage if Jerry could die to anything

[frozen ferry]

Not to anything just things that make sense

[waxen grotto]

BJ?

[obtuse berry]

Would be garbage if they died to a single batarang

[frozen ferry]

No he wouldn’t lmao

[dark igloo]

Hmm?

[obtuse berry]

Batman/TnJ matchup would be literally impossible

[frozen ferry]

Brother he has millions of projectiles he will be fine

[obtuse berry]

Millions of projectiles and 95% of them revolve around Jerry

[elfin basin]

i swear the batbomb does not make noise

[rancid jackal]

Tnj throwing a dynamite just so he can stall

[elfin basin]

i have to watch batman at all times

[frozen ferry]

Meaning if u shut down Jerry it should be fine yes?

[obtuse berry]

No lmao if Jerry could die to a single batarang the batman matchup would be autolose

[frozen ferry]

He should die mid air

A mouse having more priority is insane lol

[obtuse berry]

Would make him garbage

[elfin basin]

is there a reason t&j cheese trap doesn’t count as projectile

[frozen ferry]

Or at least let batbomb attach to him and kill him after it explodes

[elfin basin]

i should be able to walk over it with a projectile shield

[obtuse berry]

Its a melee attack that he places on the ground what

[frozen ferry]

But doing nothing I think it’s dumb

[obtuse berry]

How would a trap be a projectile

[elfin basin]

it’s not part of his body 😭

that seems to be the case with everything, it’s either a disjoint or a projectile

[obtuse berry]

How does that make it a projectile

Its a trap on the ground that does a melee attack when you walk over it

What part of that is a projectile besides him not being next to it

[fleet summit]

oh my god PFG PLEASE get rid of the 1000 end screens after a fight i cant take this anymore

[elfin basin]

you are saying it like it makes sense

beetlejuices door is a projectile

[woeful imp]

MVS only considers projectiles that can "move" true projectiles, same reason why agent smith gun isint a projectile because the bullets dont "move"

[elfin basin]

his bomb is a projectile

[obtuse berry]

Because the bomb doesn’t do a melee attack 💀💀

[woeful imp]

The door and bomb both "move"

[elfin basin]

this makes sense thank you

[obtuse berry]

No lol gun isn’t a projectile cuz hed be top tier if it was

[woeful imp]

course

[elfin basin]

not the “it does a melee attack”

[obtuse berry]

More top 1 than he alr is

[obtuse berry]

This isnt the case either

[woeful imp]

sure but that's not the reason why his gun is considered a melee

[obtuse berry]

Meseeks “move” but they aren’t a projectile

[elfin basin]

they indeed are

[obtuse berry]

Not affected by projectile blocking perks

[elfin basin]

i can bubble them and they get blocked by projectile shield

💀

playing a different game

[obtuse berry]

You can lab it rn gang

[woeful imp]

meseeks are considered an additional fighter like watermelon steven

[obtuse berry]

^

[woeful imp]

they are essintally projectiles that can do melee hits

[wispy bramble]

meeseeks are a projectile, i have reflected plenty with steven forward air

[dark igloo]

I think Meseeks could be another free character like BG. They have the models, so why not use it to make another joke character?

[woeful imp]

This reminds me, the beetlejuice name change was so dumb because now theres 2 characters known by BG

[obtuse berry]

Lets not waste resources on garbage

[dark igloo]

...you play IG

[coarse lantern]

damn

[dark igloo]

I hope not during the OB as well.

[obtuse berry]

More of a character than Meseeks

Adding another joke character after the hate BG got bro just wants the game to die

[elfin basin]

do they even have the option to throw out meeseks in lab?

[dark igloo]

But people are playing him at the highest level.

[elfin basin]

i know cause i play garnet and they get eaten by her projectile shield, same thing with smith clones

[woeful imp]

Just confirmed that yes meeseeks are blocked by projectile blocking perks

[vapid vapor]

I love when people think gun should be a projectile. Same people say this game should be more like smash, a game with multiple non projectile real life guns 💀

[obtuse berry]

Not projectile shield

[woeful imp]

Who thinks that?

[vapid vapor]

Was more of a launch opinion

[woeful imp]

yes they are, literally just labbed it

[vapid vapor]

But multiple people here used to argue about it. Saying it clearly should be changed for the health of the game. Lmao

[obtuse berry]

Nope

[woeful imp]

ah i see

[obtuse berry]

“The health of the game” and it would make smith more top 1

[woeful imp]

allright one sec let me record it and put it in clips

[vapid vapor]

The saltier the player, the less they usually know

[elfin basin]

wrong and stubborn is a bad trait

[austere tree]

One thing I don’t understand is that why didn’t make some characters armor moves not show the armor on them when they use it. Like Jason’s dash attack

[warm holly]

it doesnt block for giant btw

[west sky]

Cus Jason's dash attack isnt a armor move

[warm holly]

im labbing it rn it will block sometimes but other times giants hurtbox moves too far forward while walking and gets clipped by it

[elfin basin]

wdym?

[obtuse berry]

Yeah its a giant only thing but its funny

[elfin basin]

it’s anti projectile if that’s what you mean

[warm holly]

iron giant functioning challenge

[pearl edge]

Mike Tyson for multiversus

[woeful imp]

allright the clip is being uploaded now

of course there's no option for the enemy to just run in lab but theres options to dodge in every direction so its hard to properly showcase but there does seem to be some inconsistency. in order to block meseeks you must continue to move in the same direction, if you stop moving when it connects the shield fails but also if you move to much the meseek hits you through the shield because of the arms range

[indigo nebula]

In about 34 hours I have gotten enough gleamium F2P to get the BP

As well as 10/32 characters unlocked

[iron silo]

Oh nice.

[merry nova]

Hey, nice job

[indigo nebula]

I started on a new account

[merry nova]

Oh you wanted to see what the newbie experience was like

[indigo nebula]

So I've spent most of my time there since new season dropped

[indigo nebula]

Exactly

[iron silo]

I already finished both events this season

[merry nova]

It's not too bad now. Way better than it was in S1 or 2

[west sky]

S4?

[indigo nebula]

Yep

[iron silo]

Maybe all the other things are a bit messy but the devs ABSOLUTELY cut down on the grind.

[indigo nebula]

Still getting a full character for my 7th day of login

[austere tree]

Well I guess it just has high priority then

[west sky]

Oh nice, I started mid s3 and I got a very similar experience
Got BP for free and got 6 fighters

[indigo nebula]

Not to mention Arena makes it so you can actually do all of the missions

And play any character

[desert marlin]

i lost 1 match in ranked and the bo3 stops?

[west sky]

Not rlly, it just has a active hitbox so it's easy to trade if you dont have disjointed moves

[desert marlin]

i didnt see any forfeit

[woeful imp]

Same! i started S3 and already have enough gleamium to buy the pass as a F2P player which as i understand means i will always have enough gleamium to buy the pass if i finish the previous one. The only problem is that I completed all the missions for the season within the first week just by casually playing arena

[indigo nebula]

Exactly

You can still grind just regular matches, but it's 40 wins a tier

[golden urchin]

im not buying this or the other S4 battlepass

[indigo nebula]

Why's that?

[elfin basin]

👍

[indigo nebula]

You're missing out on the amazing Jason emote

[golden urchin]

none of the rewards interest me and i can't get the first BP because they've barely been giving gleamium

[west sky]

U still get a 50 gleam surplus so it's a good deal, also free prestige and gems

[indigo nebula]

What did you spend it on other than BP?

[elfin basin]

they gave out free 300 gleamium this event and 100 for the level up

[golden urchin]

yes and a few other things

keep in mind im not really complaining but more so saying im not buying the other BP and depending on the rewards for 5 not getting those either

[dark igloo]

I got my papercut jason emote too. time to play jason later today.

[west sky]

Same, I started a bit before the S3 mid season patch and got the PPG battlepass without spending a dime, this game is very generous with free premium currency

[indigo nebula]

Rn I'm at tier 36

On my alt

[elfin basin]

i’m missing out on levels from not doing arenas 😭

[dark igloo]

im at...33 I believe.

[golden urchin]

the new BP system is stupid and should be reverted back tbh

[split bough]

i wanna learn how to play the best character in the game ( shaggy) can you guys recommend a streamer for me to watch?

[west sky]

Damn im only lv17

[edgy gale]

i dont think they are entitled to give glemium tbh. if you dont like the BP rewards that's fine. but you have to acknowledge that completing the bp basically makes it free

[desert marlin]

can we nerf arya please even if its just her dtilt

[west sky]

If your objective is meta riding then Shaggy isnt the best anymore, still viable but not the best as you claim
Play Smith and watch OogTheLegend

[tulip bluff]

how do they look at characters like arya and rick and just say "lets not nerf them"

[edgy gale]

step one: press random buttons. step two: win

[west sky]

I see we've accepted Smith will never be nerfed

[golden urchin]

i hate that im saying this
rick doesn't need a nerf

[thorn blade]

😱

[split bough]

ban

[golden urchin]

hes annoying but not nearly as annoying as he was before & morty

[west sky]

He really doesn't, all his moves individually are balanced, the problem is them together being true

[thorn blade]

True

[desert marlin]

why is arya still SO broken best character ever

[merry nova]

I think he's alright as well. I think his jab priority is still nuts, but other than that as a whole I think he's fine

[west sky]

Space her options. One whiff and you can kill her at 60 due to being the lightest weight

[golden urchin]

mages i think are generally going to be a tiny bit annoying to fight against
Considering they fight from a distance

[desert marlin]

shes not that easy to hit lol she is not dying at 60 unless i fully charge

[woeful imp]

Honestly theyve made rick feel too good, him being a projectile character but also having insane melee just really makes him not have any weakness. Defintley not the most OP character but having more counter play against him would be nice

[west sky]

Then it's a matchup issue because spacing counters all fighters with bad neutral, arya being one of them

[desert marlin]

i was playing jack but im not rly good

[west sky]

Jack doesnt have fast moves to punish yeah. He's a mid tier overall so bad time

[tulip bluff]

your ragebait is pretty good but it could use some improvement

[analog stirrup]

Imo, the main factor is the fast fall
i'm sure you saw arya mains in this season do the nair more often than last season

[west sky]

I'd definitely enjoy more if he was on the lower end of viability than rn but yeah he's simply good at everything. Jack of all trades, master of all

[serene garnet]

About to log in after the update installed, what's new?

[edgy gale]

same as raven but dont tell pfg that 😄

[west sky]

Yeah but raven takes more effort and doesnt have long combos. Raven on the other end is perfectly balanced imo

[woeful imp]

New items in shop, some small character changes, some unwritten perk changes, and alot of unwritten arena changes

[golden urchin]

not really rage bait when its true :p

[obtuse berry]

hotfix patch that reverted taz nerf, nerfed raven a bit before she gets nerfed again, and added foghorn announcer

[edgy gale]

i would agree she takes a bit more effort. that's fair

[golden urchin]

polymorph on rick is funny tbh.
it can be a problem but it can be a disadvantage for them

[west sky]

Yeah Rick is extremely good but doesn't warrant any big nerfs

[desert marlin]

is fast fall new? i just realised you can do double nair with her

[edgy gale]

came with s4

[west sky]

Not new but now it's way faster

[desert marlin]

im not that competitive its just that arya is broken tbh that up special is literally all 50/50's with air dodge reads and theres nothing you can do about it

[west sky]

Arya is for sure a pub stomper just like Jason

[desert marlin]

and its not that hard to hit an up special

[woeful imp]

you can parry it if you get the timing down in lab , then just up air them into the blast zone

[edgy gale]

that's not that casual friendly tho 🙂

[west sky]

Love doing that to all juggler fighters

Down dodge is better though imo

[merry nova]

If I'm getting a solid juggle on you, and you parry me, just know I'm equal parts impressed, and hating you at the same time lol

[analog stirrup]

yes, they buffed the fast fall more faster
that's why they called it now "fast fall"

with fast fall, short hop and ground movement became faster than before
technically these changed the meta, not really significant, but still it pretty affected

[edgy gale]

yeah i was using a lof of this when finn used to have 10 seconds of air backpack spin

[west sky]

I won against a very good Finn 3-0 because I dodged and punished his aerials 3 times in a row lmfao

[edgy gale]

w

[golden urchin]

finn's a matchup i now consider a 50/50 tbh

think hes in a good spot now

[west sky]

Same. He has a lot of pressure on stage with sideB and charging in neutral and has very good aerials but him being less consistent makes it perfectly balanced. He's a glass cannon type fighter rn

[junior flax]

for who?

[kind jolt]

Foghorns voice isn't deep enough, yall were right.

[desert marlin]

yh i realised it feels good

[golden urchin]

anyone

[west sky]

Everyone imo

[woeful imp]

I mean ultimately fighting games are primarily competitive, I dont think its fair to call a move broken because you dont want to learn the tech to counter it I do think up special could use some changes but at least it is punishable with some practice

[junior flax]

Finn is kinda balanced

[west sky]

I play a bottom 7 fighter and I'm having a good time against Finn

[analog stirrup]

good for ya
i'm still getting use to it, it feels a bit different

[iron silo]

In a way we need to begrudgingly admit

[junior flax]

I main him and

[edgy gale]

no i agree. just saying it's harder on people who log in every once in a while

[woeful imp]

Ive killed myself by just diving off the ledge at mach 10 trying to get an edge gaurd so many times this season, definitely takes some time to get used to

[junior flax]

hes very mixed in terms of balance

[woeful imp]

Fair but is that really a problem?

[austere tree]

Oh ok that makes sense then

[junior flax]

but apparently we get gem back soon

[frank mountain]

Hey yall

What's up

[edgy gale]

no problem there. you put the time in, you get results

[frank mountain]

When marcy dropping in December?

15th?

[spare zephyr]

Check when the first battle pass ends and it’ll be around then

[west sky]

That sounds fun. No idea why they removed it in the first place. Seemed like a bandaid fix to quickly get him in a non top 3 state for release

[desert marlin]

what should i bujy with my demon coins i have 2

[west sky]

I got 300 gleamium

In ur case 200

[merry nova]

I took 100 gleam and the nubia costume so I could level her up faster

But the 300 gleam is probably the most valuable

[desert marlin]

how do you get the third

[golden urchin]

i still have yet to get the 3rd coin from the rift

[merry nova]

Oh I smoked that mess.

[edgy gale]

rifts and the event

[woeful imp]

I feel like they started teasing Marceline too early if we just knew about raven then also got marceline down the line that would feel way better then getting excited and waiting for all the hype to die to then release her

[west sky]

2 coins from the event XP
1 coin from the event rift

[spare zephyr]

I haven’t gotten any raven events from her rift do you have to play it on a level past beginner or whatever

[golden urchin]

disagree on this.
Marceline's hype will still be strong by the time she releases

backlash would also be huge if they only revealed one character for like a 2 month long season

[west sky]

No it only works on experienced

[spare zephyr]

Okok I think that’s how the Jack one worked too so I should’ve guessed

[woeful imp]

I really hope so but idk if im still gonna be excited after waiting 2 more months

[edgy gale]

she comes next month tbf

[west sky]

Experienced* 2nd difficulty

[woeful imp]

Really?

I feel like everyone is saying shes coming at a differnt time

[edgy gale]

yeah this season. probably some time before xmass

[golden urchin]

i don't have raven so im locked from playing most of the rift

[west sky]

She's coming mid season

[edgy gale]

^

[spare zephyr]

Yeah a month isn’t bad

[woeful imp]

so around when the second battle pass releases?

[edgy gale]

she will release with the second BP

[west sky]

I think you need to 100% all other levels to get it all gem xp for the event, maybe except the lv15 challenge idk

[desert marlin]

how many min does the rift take?

[kind jolt]

Iron Giant is such a Joke character

[warm holly]

sadly the game unplayble with this unreason lag just yea im gonna gave you for 1second 1000ms

[golden urchin]

yeah... which is why i haven't been playing it

[west sky]

Wanna do it rn?

[dusky wind]

Since Warner Bros helped make the witcher games, can Dettlaff or Geralt be added to Multiversus?

[dark igloo]

Thank you, I was not the only person that said that today!

[west sky]

Its way faster if u play with someone, took me 2 days total but like it's around 2 hours

1.5-2.5 hours

[woeful imp]

Do we know when thats coming? because it seems like there extending the first battle pass by 89 days but also maybe thats how much time is left in the whole season?

They really need to make this more transparent and understandable in my opinion

[west sky]

Assuming season lasts 100 days (i dont remember) she'll release in 33 days

[bitter shell]

im done raging... im back

[kind jolt]

Hes useless for 80% of the game then he gets a kill at 20 out of nowhere based on stupid bs

[west sky]

Yeah, mistake on their part. But we have bigger issues to deal with tbf and they're being rushed to release content either way

[desert marlin]

oh damn nvm then

[edgy gale]

i believe this is just a timer bug on their part. my guess is she will release for money and glemium on the 10th or the 17th, and for fighter road/fighter currency 3 and a half days later

[desert marlin]

nah im good bro maybe if it was like 30 minutes

[merry nova]

Oh well that is not cool. The bonus reward you get for the infinite battlepass is now 10, not 50 gleamium

[west sky]

If we win quick yeah it's at max 1h

I was redoing the quests a lot to get 5/5 stars since i didnt have a friend for 80% of it

[desert marlin]

im good bro sorry

[west sky]

All good lol I already finished the quests im js offering

[woeful imp]

I dont completely hate this if im honest, hes not great in competitve 1v1s but then in fun / unbalnaced game modes like arena he can be totally broken which is always funny

[edgy gale]

at least this has been the pattern so far

[woeful imp]

Yeah im really hoping its a bug but also after the implementation of fighter road it shows that at least some part of the company is willing to make the game worse if it means they make more money

[kind jolt]

ban IG

[desert marlin]

arya is so stupidly broken no way thats not n1 character bruh why they buffing her

[woeful imp]

as long as hes not crushing in ranked 1v1 im fine with there being joke characters

[edgy gale]

yeah the fighter road is kinda miss atm. if they make it so people can choose who they can work towards it would be fine

[desert marlin]

batman basically nerfed with the new parry

[west sky]

Why throwing shade to Banana lol

[bold brook]

Multiversus made me hate bananas

[edgy gale]

batman got nerfed in various ways

[woeful imp]

Completely agree, like it so obvious that being able to chose the character would fix it yet they still havent implemented that. That really makes me worried about the companys morals and the future of the game

[desert marlin]

makes no sense arya is way better

[west sky]

They also removed weakened so there's that

[serene garnet]

awww

[west sky]

Thankfully
Open Beta day 1 batman, garnet and WW hater here

[woeful imp]

Its wierd that they keep saying they removed weakened across the board but its still in some move sets just not batman

[edgy gale]

the main problem with batman atm is that he cant kill as easily with the removal of weakened on most his moves. he is still good, just cant kill as easily

[west sky]

Which moves? Havent seen a single one yet

[woeful imp]

Im pulling up the move sets now, i remeber getting it multiple times yesterday but i forget who did it

[edgy gale]

jack's passive and batarang perk still apply weakened

[west sky]

Rip

[edgy gale]

i am happy they limited it to only a couple of moves tbf. everyone using the 100 perk was ridiculous

[desert marlin]

how do you beat arya with batman

[lone trench]

This game might actually be dying 💀. Why do they allow different regions to fight eachother

[edgy gale]

pfft pressure idk. batarang is your friend

[west sky]

Imo weakened would've be in a healthy state if it was a rare machanic, like Sweet Spots for crit damage. Instead they gave it out like candy. Half the roster had weakened and there was even a global perk that did weakened lol
Removing it was a overreaction but it's better to have no weakened than how it was before

[lone trench]

#clips message

[kind jolt]

We're still in lineupversus if anyone is wondering

play the right lineup and get into masters easily

[west sky]

Oh matchup

Inevitable when fighters aren't in a balanced state, everyone has bad matchups

Only smith is a 100% free win fighter

[rain tapir]

and arya
and shaggy

[west sky]

Arya depends, shaggy is counterable

[woeful imp]

Also lebrons side special

[west sky]

Shaggy is a touch of death fighter but if you play patient you can win. 1st stock is a snowball tho because of free rage charge. I find myself stalling until it ends because it's unbeatable lol

[edgy gale]

could be. i havent noticed that, cuz all lebrons do is put 700 balls all over the place 😄

[kind jolt]

They Lure you into ranked with the ranked skins then present to you the worst balanced, leasted skilled, most cheesy "fighting game" of all time.

Truly a disgrace of a game, dont even bother on ranked.

[woeful imp]

yeah i just went through all the move sets the only ones that still say they apply weakened is lebrons side special, jacks passive, and batmans perk

[edgy gale]

++ doing lord's work

[woeful imp]

ranked 1v1 is still somehow more balanced then casual 1v1

[edgy gale]

yeah the maps on ranked dont have that much random stage bs

[west sky]

Odd since they announced it's removed entirely
I wish this was how it worked before though, a rare mechanic just like sweetspots

[woeful imp]

i swear to god there is no matchmaking on casual at all every game is either wiping the floor with someone whos learning how to play or playing against a harley with 7000 wins while your on 1000

[edgy gale]

kek. i hear that

[kind jolt]

who cares honestly

[icy epoch]

someone want to 1v1 ?

[woeful imp]

Except for destroyed PPG tower, i have no clue how that map is available for ranked

[west sky]

I was so mad they removed MMR
I find myself fighting dudes with 20 total career wins and I just feel bad. I have a standard of 100% of the time rematching no matter what but I just cancel and toast out of being sorry

[woeful imp]

whats kek?

[edgy gale]

kinda a variation of laughing

[west sky]

Idk if it's an accronym for anything but it's just a laugh. Like lol

[woeful imp]

Its seriously so unfair, either way the match isint gonna be fun so ive just completley switched to playing arena rifts and ranked 1v1

[woeful imp]

I see, thanks!

[kind jolt]

its more balanced yes, but it shows the cracks that 2s cant fully present. The playstyle in 1s is disgusting

[edgy gale]

i mostly play 2s, so i dont get to see that map that much. but it does seem way too small

[kind jolt]

The best strat btw guys to get past at least gold/plat is just surrender games as fast as possible and just wait for a win to give you 30

[west sky]

Yeah passive meta is here, defense is the best offense but defense vs defense equals a 20 minute set. Horrible to play rn

[golden urchin]

good idea except you can derank by doing this too much inplat

[kind jolt]

the amount of times I tried playing 1s ranked then in Bronze people will camp with wonder women or some other bs character for 7 minutes waiting for the game to end and STILL LOSE

[west sky]

Ranked is a gambling matchmaking game more than skill test tbh

[balmy lodge]

Nerf Iron giant

[west sky]

You cant fight IG like the average fighter. Cheese him back

He's already bad but you cant fight him fairly

[edgy gale]

yeah gap of two divisions is crazy. if you are in gold you can fight a bronze or a diamond. and in plat you can get top 1 GM

[woeful imp]

This is seriously the best way to do it

[west sky]

I tried fighting normally and lost 1-3. Started spamming and got 3-0 twice

I'd feel bad but it's a IG player. No respect for em

[edgy gale]

hear hear

[kind jolt]

If anyone is wondering Gizmo is still a top 5 character you just havent run into a good one yet

[woeful imp]

I have definitely fought opponents with a gap larger then two divisions, if you win around 5 games in a row in silver you will start facing diamond+4

[kind jolt]

If you are meterless against a Gizmo, no matter the percent you will die...Thats superman levels of bs.

[elfin basin]

so don’t panic dodge

[rocky wedge]

Love when my random teammate goes afk in ranked making me loose rp

[west sky]

Yeah in s3 I fought a Masters 1 Superman in plat twice. Won both times

[woeful imp]

It heavily favors fast melee characters and feels like it was espically made to make BJ mains suffer,

[elfin basin]

lose*

[west sky]

Masters is free with the rp system

[golden urchin]

no its not

[sweet gorge]

good job on beating that superman player, from my experience ppl who are good at him can be tough

[balmy lodge]

If you get caught he’s doing atleast 60 before you get out

[edgy gale]

yeah it's way too small to be able to space properly. you are always in eachothers faces

[golden urchin]

i saw someone get very very little rank points climbing to masters in diamond

[balmy lodge]

Especially with that protect a friend ability

[tranquil bronze]

Dude I swear batman players are so freakin carried in this game. Bros just swing for days and unga Bunga to win

[woeful imp]

how? i feel like im stuck in silver/gold because every win you get around 7 rp or 0 if your opponent disconnects and then lose around the same for every loss or if you disconnect because of a crash

[lone trench]

Just fought a plat joker with the most annoying playstyle

Passive
Spamming cards
Uptilt

[west sky]

If you play for long enough you get way more rp than you lose. If i'm getting gold skill Masters players it's the in-practice proof of my in-theory point

[woeful imp]

this is why we need shields

[kind jolt]

Im being chased around ranked by a Gizmo who kills my character at 70

[lone trench]

Im so happy i won, I can’t stand playing against people like this

[desert marlin]

can this game fix techs please and not autotech someone randomly that should fly into the blastzone

[woeful imp]

Fair, do you think those gold players are in master because there carried by there character?

[woeful imp]

If you know what triggers them its pretty easy to expect them

[rocky wedge]

Mb, eng ain't my first language

[west sky]

Not rlly because they're bad either way. They just fight people that can't adapt to their annoying playstyle, while I can

[lone trench]

Marvin 😕

[icy epoch]

anyone want to 1v1 ?

[west sky]

It's a gamble, but even the most rp u lose is pretty close to the least u can gain. My average is 28rp per win and 6ish per loss but even when getting the 8 rp wins against GODS it's still a plus

[woeful imp]

maybe im just making excuses for me being bad but as Beetlejuice it feels its so difficult to get out of gold/platinum because he cant respond to cheesey players

[desert marlin]

no the glitchy tech, where they are at high % and should 100% be dead but they just auto tech on a place they shouldnt even be on

why is superman instant shield makes no sense

they need to fix batman dash attack with techs

[west sky]

Beetlejuice is a very fair fighter with little mixup, fair

[woeful imp]

Jesus im jealous, the most RP i ever got for a win was 11 and that was silver vs diamond

[wintry shuttle]

Anyone wanna help me out in rifts?

[west sky]

When I was grinding from bronze V to diamond last season most of my time spent was getting 8-12RP in silver. It's the worst part while grinding

[edgy gale]

that's weird i was getting 35ish per win last season

[woeful imp]

The annoying thing is that when i fight other golds/silvers i almost always win but as soon as you start winning you get placed with people way above you

[woeful imp]

It seems like the amount of RP you get is really variable

i wonder if theres some factor we dont know about

[west sky]

I did not get a single unranked, bronze, silver, or gold while grinding in Silver lol

2 masters, mostly diamonds, a few plats

[woeful imp]

its so annoying

[edgy gale]

probably depends on what time in the day or hidden MMR or something like that

[woeful imp]

like actual gold players will often just kill themselves or are visibly learning what there moves do

[woeful imp]

I never even thought about that, i always play at the same time i wonder if thats the reason

[serene garnet]

I gotta say... I dislike the new rework of unlocking characters

[woeful imp]

i think everyone does

[west sky]

Usually higher ranked players have bigger egos so they start being toxic to get in ur head or start spamming/cheesing. Also they never forfeit
Golds I've seen give up and forfeit a lot, it's the better division to be playing

[woeful imp]

yeah but as someone in gold i never fight other golds except for the first two matches of the day

[west sky]

I dont like how im forced to unlock fighters i dont give a drop of care about while in other game's fighter road like brawl stars you have a bit more choice involved. It's a good change for the game's longevity though, and pfg clearly trusts the game will succeed and are doing more changes for the long end than rn

[woeful imp]

its like a routine at this point, fight 2-3 golds who dont know how to play or are new, then after those wins start fighting people with over 3000 wins on there character while im at 1500 wins total

jesus sorry for complaning so much i do still really like this game it just feels like matchmaking makes no sense

[gritty flax]

Agree, I'm usually put up against people who are higher ranked than me. Usually never fight someone the same rank as me.

[west sky]

We care more about what we love. I love this game a lot, specifically Reindog, and really want it to succeed. But the experience rn is nothing but frustrating

[woeful imp]

Im gonna try playing ranked at differnt times because that could make a real differnce

[desert marlin]

why is the bridge on the new map still glitchy lmao

[woeful imp]

exactly yeah, like this game has so much potential already has beetlejuice and maybe one day we will have austin powers, theres no way to not love this game

[west sky]

I like fighting ppl better than me, leaves room for me to improve and better myself constantly, but getting 6rp for it is not cool

[gritty flax]

Yeah, that could. It didn't for me. Which sucks cause I really wanted to rank up last season.

[west sky]

Because all platforms suck in this game. They're the same as they were in the open beta and it needs to be changed asap

[woeful imp]

I do to but to an extent. if im fighting the exact same characters over and over while litterally not able to move for the entire match its just not fun and its not even worth trying

[desert marlin]

you should be able to drop through platforms by just holding down lol jump and down is awful

[spark hill]

The game is unplayable on steam with sh*t lag spikes and everything I can't even play ranked, I have a PS5 but sometimes just want to be on my pc smh

[woeful imp]

Lol in arena if you wall slide in that hole all the leaver bots and dark mimics just jump in and die over and over, its a great way to make a ton of gold

[serene garnet]

Yeah.... it + the "different" direction for the battles passes just make things a lot less fun to grind for and just more dull.

[west sky]

Yeah no. When i have 700 career wins and I'm fighting a superman with 8k wins I genuinely cant play. Not a hypothetical btw.

[woeful imp]

Down jump is so un natural

[woeful imp]

YEAH EXACTLY, like how is it that every match after i get a win streak im fighting these people who have had soooo much time on the game, like good for them and impressive the way that there able to move but jesus how is this ranked matchmaking

[warm holly]

nerf wonderwoman

[dark igloo]

No

[kind jolt]

then you get on the game and it works and your happy until you realize its the worst game ever made

[desert marlin]

aint all that

[woeful imp]

I feel like it should just be double down input to pass through like double side input to do an instant dash attack

[normal fulcrum]

Wonder Woman is still insane in 2s can’t speak on 1s

[desert marlin]

double down takes too long

[woeful imp]

that way you could crouch on platforms but still quickly pas through them

[woeful imp]

how?

[elder sentinel]

I tried to play Jake in 1s the other night, my 2nd game in bronze 5 I played some nubia that parried me 7 times during the set

[normal fulcrum]

Which move did she parry

[west sky]

Ik I'm the odd one out here but I personally like the bp changes. Recently the content has not appealed to me either way so having a 2nd battle pass basically means there's a second chance for me to enjoy the content in one season. Better than being forced to get another black adam skin for the 3rd season in a row

[woeful imp]

lol yeah and somehow casual matchmaking is even worse

[west sky]

Probably horsey and sair or nair

[woeful imp]

plus because you can get BP for free im never really gonna complain about them

[normal fulcrum]

Horsey parry is easy. Sair not so much

[eager idol]

You keep getting mismatched because…there just arent a lot of people playing anymore

[west sky]

If you max charge it everytime it's consistent enough to parry. Also context clues, sometimes u just know when they'll throw it out

But yh it has enough mixup to be on the harder end to parry

[normal fulcrum]

Well that’s the thing it assumes max charge

[elder sentinel]

Everything lol horse, sair, even got me on a couple jabs

[woeful imp]

Yeah i think unfortunately that is the case, still wild tho if most of the people playing this game are diamond+ because thats what it feels like in matchmaking

[west sky]

2/3 lesgo

Jab is crazy work tho, happened to me but I think it's mashing parry instead of timing it

[desert marlin]

bro what they removed batman weakened from EVERY down tilt option

[eager idol]

Oh noooooo

[woeful imp]

Honestly practicing parry's is one of the least talked about ways to get way better, if you can reliably parry even a couple moves from each character you can destroy most opponents(if its a fair RP matchup of course)

[merry nova]

That tends to happen to a lot of fighitng games once they been out long enough. The skill of the general population rises, and anyone that isn't willing to or can't make it up to that next stage is left out, leaving a smaller number of higher skill players. And from there it snowballs on itself

[west sky]

Parrying in casual is my fav way to play lol

[normal fulcrum]

Complaining about shaggy side kick is easier

[serene garnet]

That's fair, but for me the content in the current one isn't exactly stuff I'm fond of. I'm also not a fan of the first battle pass no longer containing a free character

[woeful imp]

lol same parrys feel so good and with somecharacters (BJ my beloved) one parry is usually enough to get a free kill

[eager idol]

I think the one problem with shaggy’s kick thats still there is the 500 years of hitpause it has in 2’s but its whatever

[west sky]

Intuitive, big hype moment, huge dopamine hit

[edgy gale]

just jump lol. this is what i do 🙂

[woeful imp]

Thats my only issue with the new battlepasses like if your not gonna include a character in the pass at least dont advertise the pass with that character because people are gonna assume she comes with it

[normal fulcrum]

A lot of moves have this issue in 2s. You dodge it, teammate doesn’t so both get hit

[west sky]

Yeah there's absolutely nothing I want in this BP, other than the 2nd tier free banner (it matches well with my hypergalaxy reindog skin) but I only got it for the extra gleam, free prestige and rift gems (also perk currency)
I'd MUCH rather get a free fighter tho, u right. I hate that change

[eager idol]

Yeah its so weird, idk why pfg is so insistent on it

[edgy gale]

bane of my existence

[eager idol]

Black Adam in particular has hitpause on EVERYTHING

[merry nova]

Oh hey I broke 8100 wins. didn't catch that.

[kind jolt]

skill based game

[serene garnet]

I'm also noticing the cosmetics are just for the events (giving off the impression the change is to make players want to spend more money in order to unlock parts in the pass earlier to save on time)

I'm just hoping the 2nd battle pass this season is better

[edgy gale]

and his lighting can chain until the next map

[normal fulcrum]

I just wish skins for characters in passes were more varied. It’s a lot of taz black Adam and Velma skins

[west sky]

Hitpause is the mechanic i least like in this game. Specially because it messes up dodge/parry timings, also just feels counterintuitive

[west sky]

Yh I just want like one reindog skin

[normal fulcrum]

Velma is on her 4th battle pass skin

[unreal tulip]

any attack of his, he locks you in a freeze frame, so in 2s, if he hits your mate, even if you time your dodge, those friggin hitboxes linger

[west sky]

Hitpause 0/10 mechanic

[hybrid spindle]

Masters climb is so sad I have been 20 RP away and the randos just don’t want me to have it. Insane amount of game 3s they just sell 😭

I just want MY COSTUMMEEEE

[normal fulcrum]

You’ll make it. So close you are basically there

[hybrid spindle]

I’m nervous about taking a 3 game L streak and being trapped into another 10 hour session of 50/50

I honestly have never felt so stuck at a finish line

[merry nova]

It's like they got em under contract to only be able to play solidly for one game out of three games lol.

[eager idol]

This is the game that demands to be taken seriously as an esport

[normal fulcrum]

It’s never that bad. Plus you typically gain more than you lose

[hybrid spindle]

False, I’m getting +17, -19

[west sky]

If Oog gets #1 GM I'll protest

[hybrid spindle]

And the -19 on best of 3 kills my motivation

[rain tapir]

thats why you dont queue with randoms

[merry nova]

Guys she's been trying to do this for days, she's played with people she knows too.

[normal fulcrum]

Rip 💀

[merry nova]

It's just been a rough set of circumstances

[normal fulcrum]

I mostly queue with randoms. At that rating you get good enough players

[hybrid spindle]

If you queue with friends you get put against GM and don’t win anyway either

[serene garnet]

Same...

[normal fulcrum]

I randomly matched with the Jason gm twice and we won then I versed him once and beat him. I give and I take

[hybrid spindle]

Ok I got tickletoe to team with me it’s lit

Everybody wish me a very 3 game win streak

[normal fulcrum]

I’m queueing up to fry you

I will fulfill the banana guard role as gatekeeper

[unreal tulip]

depends, who are you using?

[normal fulcrum]

Probably Raven

[merry nova]

You know I believe in ya. Good luck

[normal fulcrum]

Looks like original #2 bg went on a loss streak because I climbed from 3 to 2 by doing nothing

[sleek coyote]

gl 🩷

[unreal tulip]

never tell me the odds

[sleek coyote]

-# 984883791069843518

[merry nova]

I'm just happy to have power back. lol. Havin a good day

[normal fulcrum]

I saw it.

[kind jolt]

Worst fighting game of all time

[normal fulcrum]

She posting coordinates

[sleek coyote]

its just the ID for the mvp role

[sleek coyote]

LMAO!!!! time to find the treasure

[normal fulcrum]

I’m sending the missiles already

[sturdy kite]

Wowzers

[normal fulcrum]

Wouldn’t recommend going there

[odd dagger]

I randomly come back to the game and now i got the bp for free? why do i have it for free

[open girder]

i like it

[sleek coyote]

wdym top morty you arent gorf!!!!

[merry nova]

Sure why not, enjoy!

[kind jolt]

doesnt mean its not a joke

[odd dagger]

im so confused bro

[kind jolt]

I play it too and its the worst fighting game I've ever seen and on a competitive level its not even playable

[odd dagger]

I havent played since the downfall in the afro season

[merry nova]

Why? They gave out free passes to returning players that haven't come back in a while.

That seems like you fit.

[odd dagger]

ohh

[normal fulcrum]

Welcome back. Enjoy the bully taz skin

[open girder]

i mean this meta is better than any season

[odd dagger]

how long do you have to leave for

[kind jolt]

still a joke of a game

[odd dagger]

I dont even own taz

[kind jolt]

It needs 10 more updates at least

[elfin basin]

vedge tables

[normal fulcrum]

The power floor and ceiling are a bit closer. Some characters are still at the top

[open girder]

yeah but it ll get better, raven needing actual skill is a nice step forward too

[normal fulcrum]

Wonder Woman never beating the 2s dominator allegations

[elfin basin]

nerf everyone to beetlejuice level NOW

[sturdy kite]

Wah?

[edgy mauve]

heyyy they finally changed the banner

[kind jolt]

after playing ranked im pretty convinced Harley is bottom 5 easily

[open girder]

fr

[elfin basin]

that was all me and Ino thank us

[edgy mauve]

👏

[merry nova]

The banner looks nice, yeah. Good on em for changing it. Might as well flaunt it if you're gonna make a new one

I should probably feed my dogs. They are looking at me like it's that time lol.

[odd dagger]

well guys what have they changed since the state it was in during afro season

[west sky]

According to bhands she's a top tier

[elfin basin]

so marceline will hit people with musical notes?

[west sky]

Spam sair

[odd dagger]

The main issue I had was the pay wall for everything and now fruistrating the combat used to be compared to the beta test

[kind jolt]

apparently theres some broken sair gimmick or infinite or something that I havent seen

Her sair on its own is middling

[west sky]

Yeah she has a tech chase

[kind jolt]

yeah

I wont even bother learning that

if its overpowered then itll just be patched and losers will continue to use exploits

[west sky]

I mean its just sair dair repeatedly

And tech chases are not complained abt, it reflects skill
Like LeBron

[kind jolt]

if it is then how is that overpowered

[normal fulcrum]

Because it’s strong

[kind jolt]

a tech chase with a dair is a 50 50

[slow summit]

🤔

[kind jolt]

Samurai Jacks tech chase would be 4x better than a Harley sair tech chase

[west sky]

Not OVERpowered but if u can read 3 techs now they're on death %

[normal fulcrum]

There was some guy spamming iron giant clips on the subreddit of his tech chase. If tech chase ever is designated a problem they would have to do wake up attacks

[kind jolt]

A joke mechanic for a joke game

[normal fulcrum]

I don’t think that’s how this works

[west sky]

Even smash has tech chase combos, the issue is our tech is auto, but u can just tech the other way

[junior flax]

huh? Oh yeah kinda true

[kind jolt]

yeah auto teching is bs

[hybrid spindle]

Wow

[normal fulcrum]

Gem is the 50/50 meme mechanic. You have to predict whether he chooses to tp to it or not they need to give him basically a brief time after teleporting where he can’t do anything

[normal fulcrum]

Wellness check

[golden urchin]

this tbh

[west sky]

Yeah, good fix

[normal fulcrum]

I saw people do some disgusting things with gem back in the day.

[west sky]

I'm not sure if it was Pin but watching his Finn was peak

He was so good I would root against him lol

Aw reminding me of Sage LeBron and RetroXWolf Reindog, I miss the beta

[unreal tulip]

I don't miss the beta one bit

[golden urchin]

beta was bad

[west sky]

Rn is way better but I am nostalgic either way, good time

[golden urchin]

current game is much better

[west sky]

No denying that but OB MVS was my first platform fighting game

[normal fulcrum]

Agreed

[golden urchin]

brawlhalla was my first platform fighter

[west sky]

Tried, not it for me

[unreal tulip]

Smash 64

[golden urchin]

these days i think brawlhalla is bad.

no personality, no fun, boring characters

[west sky]

Yeah, i dont rlly get the appeal. Even pros say the pro scene is messed up

[golden urchin]

all brawlhalla cares about is crossovers but they don't have any personality to it

[tranquil bronze]

WHY AM I IN BRONZE GETTING MATCHED WITH EFFIN DIAMOND RANK PLAYERS WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOUR GAME

$100 Million lost I can honest to god see why

[west sky]

Yeah like fortnite has whole ass POIs, events and new weapons for a crossover, its not just a reskinned pre existing fighter. Brawlhalla's whole formula is js not very appealing

[golden urchin]

have you been winning alot

[tranquil bronze]

No because everyone is gold and above

[unreal flax]

Why haven’t they gave the discord roles for people mains yet ? That’s such a obvious thing to do

[golden urchin]

cuz if you've been winning alot it'll put you against players of a similar win streak

[golden urchin]

i don't think its really important to do tbh

[west sky]

I was fighting masters in silver, it's how the ranked mm works. Lose a bit lol

[golden urchin]

esp since mains change so often

[unreal flax]

That’s not the point

[west sky]

True. Tell #discord-suggestions

[tranquil bronze]

I wouldn't count on anything smart being done by anyone at PFG

[normal fulcrum]

Because season reset or not playing a character they have diamond in already

[south stump]

is there a twitch event going on?

[unreal flax]

There’s multiple people asking in there mods don’t even look in the suggestions

[west sky]

Not as far as i know

[split niche]

Was the battle pass supposed to increase in days?

[tranquil bronze]

I don't think mods would dare to look at this discord tbh. It's better for their mental health. Why do you think they only do prerecorded presentations.

[west sky]

Ping a mod, people sending messages there are just screaming at the void
I dont blame mods since people usually just complain and state the obvious, if u ping at least u're garanteed a response

[left tusk]

On Friday, there will be a tournament with shields active, hosted by Bhands

[waxen grotto]

Just got into a match with two garnets

How do I clean the screen

[unreal tulip]

that's still NOT in the maximum range of 2 full ranks from you

[balmy lodge]

Nerf Shaggy

[unreal flax]

There’s at most 3 messages a day a mod should be able to look at them

[hybrid spindle]

2-1 rn, 27 RP away

[west sky]

No. Season is increased in days but the battlepass is shortened by a few days, and a entirely new battlepass is added in the mid season update

[unreal flax]

Not like general chat ever gets that toxic

[tranquil bronze]

Shut up

(irony)

[waxen grotto]

They need to add bikini skins to all the male characters or this game is going under

[west sky]

PLEAAAAAAASE
REINDOG BIKINI SKIN

[lone trench]

Wow I got 16 rp from beating a master 5 as a master 4

[west sky]

And Jason

[unreal flax]

[lone trench]

This game still doesn’t like me

[waxen grotto]

I want to see Batman in a bikini

[tranquil bronze]

I don't want to see batman in general

[west sky]

Is the mask staying or nah you would say

[waxen grotto]

What cup size yall think batman is?

[unreal tulip]

B

[west sky]

Me fr

[waxen grotto]

Yes

[west sky]

C. Alfred has J

[unreal tulip]

must any game of arena lock you in a longass loading screen?

[old imp]

Absolute Batman is like D💀

[normal fulcrum]

Yes it is lmao. Rank is by character so I’m masters on bg but if I swap to Raven I’m gonna verse bronze-gold because I never played her before

[unreal tulip]

exactly, then facing diamonds on bronze shouldn't happen, as you just said

[golden urchin]

absolutely not

i do not want to hurt my eyes

[normal fulcrum]

Ok so there is “I don’t like a system and it should change” which is fine and there is discussion to have there but just because you don’t understand the system doesn’t mean it doesn’t work

He likely versed someone with a diamond banner or something

[hybrid spindle]

13 away, next win please 😭

[tranquil gale]

@tulip iris do you have any problem with me?

[dim copper]

Hey chat

[light grove]

zippity zip those lips! You’re quite the talkative individual

[dim copper]

Oh my bad king

[unreal tulip]

you don't understand what I say.
you just can't meet a diamond CHARACTER when you are in bronze, because there's a 2 full ranks range limit, I don't care about their other characters

[normal fulcrum]

Does the name “oprahwindfury” mean anything to you?

[normal fulcrum]

Yah he never met a diamond player

[dim copper]

Possibly

[normal fulcrum]

I just went to his match history. Highest rank he versed in the last 30 minutes was gold

[light grove]

Smash

[normal fulcrum]

So yah the matchmaking system works fine

[zenith frost]

Screw you all banana guard mains who just spam the dash attack

[light grove]

Just dodge lil bro😭

[normal fulcrum]

His dash attack is one of the worst in the game

[edgy mauve]

dash or side special?

[normal fulcrum]

I assume he meant side special

Unless he versed a banana that kept doing his trip and fall attack and killed him at like 200%

[hasty trellis]

Can't wait for Marceline

[hybrid spindle]

I HIT MASTERS

WAHOOOOOOOOOOODLY DOODLY

[analog stirrup]

congrats

[normal fulcrum]

🎉

[zenith frost]

I was playing as superman against two banana guards who were just spamming the Spear run attack

I almost loss, Lucky i had a good bugs bunny partner

[normal fulcrum]

Now for gm

[zenith frost]

I started just using the Air heat vision special to avoid them

[normal fulcrum]

Banana side special is pretty easy to punish. 2 in casuals though might cover the blind spots

[hybrid spindle]

I’m literally sweating

[golden urchin]

YAAAAY
how tough was it to get that far

[zenith frost]

I don't care about Marceline

I just want Ben 10 in the game

[golden urchin]

not till season 10 or 20

[hybrid spindle]

Insanely tough lmfao it’s like +8 per win and -19 per loss once you hit diamond 1

[normal fulcrum]

I should have gate kept

When I played with you and I was d1 I got +19 -8

[unreal tulip]

I'm getting gate kept in arena by leaverbots

haven't had the same human teammate for more than 2 games

[hybrid spindle]

Those weren’t bad gains/losses. I wouldn’t mind teaming again next time I hop on if you’re down

I kinda want to take a little break from ranked though like just 2 or 3 days to play some other games

[normal fulcrum]

I’m down. Are you playing someone new or continuing Raven? I usually go for a few characters masters

[hybrid spindle]

MySims just came out and I’m so hype

[normal fulcrum]

I usually don’t care to go for gm. I made top 100 for a bit to take a screenshot but in the long run it would be too much maintenance for my liking

[hybrid spindle]

I think I’m gonna one-trick Raven 90% of the time, but now that she’s masters I might be in the mood to see what some other lesser used characters of mine are all about. I haven’t really tried Steven, Smith or TnJ

[golden urchin]

i am trying to aim for masters, gold 2 atm

[hybrid spindle]

If you get GM do you need to end the season in top 100 for the banner? Or just hit it to get it

[normal fulcrum]

Sounds good and I’ll play Jack since you love to see him so much

[golden urchin]

end in top probably

[dim copper]

Ravens hide behind the bird and scared to push

[hybrid spindle]

Oh I actually like using Jack lowkey

[normal fulcrum]

Need to end top 100

[hybrid spindle]

Jack kinda sounds nice to use because he has that new prestige skin that I bought bc it has a dog on his head

[normal fulcrum]

I bought it too lmao

[hybrid spindle]

Awww you mad?

[normal fulcrum]

I need to get the iron giant one as well

[hybrid spindle]

I can post clips of me killing at 15% but sure I’m a scared little baby

Raven rage fair is more lethal than shaggy lmao

[normal fulcrum]

You confidently post clips of you getting clipped by a dodgable Jack side special though

[austere tree]

Yeah ravens moves are incredibly fast

[unreal tulip]

today I took the random character in arena for a quest and just SHIVERED at the 1/16 chance of getting whobia or bg

[hybrid spindle]

Because it was to aid me in a conversation. And tbh I don’t mind posting me getting messed up, we all been destroyed before

[austere tree]

With playing raven her jab is about as fast as Agent Smith and jacks jab

[normal fulcrum]

I never lose to ttv players for fear of being clipped and put in a TikTok montage

[lone trench]

Nothing is comparable to jacks jab😭

[hybrid spindle]

lol ttv players always suck anyway 😭

[austere tree]

Ravens is

[lone trench]

I have ttv in my name 😭

[unreal tulip]

point still stands then

[hybrid spindle]

and u don’t even stream smh

[normal fulcrum]

None of them ever do

[lone trench]

I can’t be asked to pay to change my name again

[unreal tulip]

so you CHANGED into ttv? digging your own grave there XD

hoist with his own petard

[lone trench]

My first psn name was my moms name then I changed it to ttv to stream Fortnite and Brawlhalla. 😔

[hybrid spindle]

You don’t have to pay to change ur name on twitch tho

[unreal tulip]

was your mom streaming? mine couldn't press 2 buttons ; )

[lone trench]

Yea ik

[golden urchin]

nah not always :) i fight against and with good ravens in ranked
those that hide usually lose for me

[normal fulcrum]

I only stream world of Warcraft raids 🤷🏻‍♂️

[hybrid spindle]

They’re so pressed about Raven they can’t even let me be happy LMAO

[austere tree]

So ravens jab is also an anti projectile move too that’s interesting

[golden urchin]

its as if they think good raven players are a myth :O

[lone trench]

Beetlejuice mains hide behind the beetle and scared to push

[unreal tulip]

Hey @hybrid spindle, wanna help me win an arena once? Or are you still climbing?

[normal fulcrum]

A few of her moves are deceptively projectiles

[unreal tulip]

I'm about to finish the "2 games for each class" quests and haven't yet had a human mate

[golden urchin]

jason can actually push a raven to fight a bit more i think.
fully charged neutral special can tank a raven's fully charged neutral a little bit

[normal fulcrum]

I didn’t realize arena was so bad for some people. The first game I played I cleaned house with a Finn no losses

[warm holly]

ur moms name ;-; so cute

[normal fulcrum]

She prob made the account

[left tusk]

Arena is very fun ngl, even when you lose

[warm holly]

??? not everyone is as good as you

[hybrid spindle]

No you can’t queue arena with friends

[normal fulcrum]

I meant people leaving lmao

[golden urchin]

apparently now you can

[hybrid spindle]

I just turned on stellar blade and I’m using the new photo mode to take selfies of Eve with cat graffiti though

[warm holly]

oh

[normal fulcrum]

I need to play the economy like it’s tft

[golden urchin]

cat graffiti?

[unreal tulip]

really? once you get one they must be 16? crazy

[normal fulcrum]

Waiting for pc port

[hybrid spindle]

#off-topic message

[hybrid spindle]

Apparently you can queue with friends now lol. I can hop on in 15 minutes if you want I’m just doing a quest

[unreal tulip]

I'd rather wait 15 minutes than getting another bot

[hybrid spindle]

It’s my goty and one of my top 5 fav games ever made. It’s like a classic action rpg with sexy

[lone trench]

No I just didn’t know what to name my account at that time

[golden urchin]

confirmed to be next year lets goooo

[warm holly]

@wooden coral WHY DO I KEEP FIGHTING YOU

[unreal tulip]

anger issues maybe?

[normal fulcrum]

That’s a name

[austere tree]

She is a mage of course they are lol. All mages have none cool down projectiles as part of their kit lol

[spark hill]

Well maybe if you were tough enough to get into the salty spitoon then you wouldn't end up in weeny hut jr

[austere tree]

This game is making me angry

[golden urchin]

so take a break for a bit to let yourself calm down a bit

[dim copper]

I don’t use that perk but good attempt

[austere tree]

I was litterally on a match unable to do ANYTHING FOR BO REASON

[austere tree]

No it’s not that I got out into a match and I couldn’t move my character at all while my controller is fully charged and everything

[unreal tulip]

They hit you with a bo staff?

[warm holly]

;-; i just wanna be a goofy goober