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💀 ngl this is pretty damn hard to find, but it's natural enough.
It has to do with the fact that your king is now in danger and your pieces are too far to support your king. (c4 would've blocked white's rook, therefore no mating attack)
Re8+! Kd3 (Kf3 is straightforward, Nd2+ starts the mating attack) Nc1+ (if black's king goes to the 1st rank, there's the idea of Ra1#) Kc3 Re3+ (Kc2/Kb2 Ra2+ +M4) Kd2 R4a3 setting up a mating net (+M5)
**TL;DR: Had your opponent played correctly, you'd have been mated. **
what's that
huh
oh cool
bruv accelerated dragon is complicated af 💀
and he's a beginner
i love chess
fr
@jolly pawn accelerated dragon is like rrly complicated
Lots of stuff to memorize
I don’t even know it
ok
lol didn’t know
man it's been long since i last played chess
is this mate stoppable
Same
Move pawn to G3, and you've got more than 0 chances
i think it's still losing for white though
Well not exactly, if black moves the queen to h6 you can put the horse on h4 and voila, blocked
okay but then you just take the knight
also
And then you're eaten by the pawn
or you just just take the knight immediately after g3
and then move to h6
Oh yeah didn't see it at all, as I said it's been long since I like, actively played chess 😅
wt the next best move?
Nc6 is good
Knight f6
why play the sicilian if you dont know even know the move afterwards
Kxe1
@pure knot i don’t think kold is active on discord anymore
Qf7?
he's semi active, and I just ping him for no reason.
forcing a +M1, great find. Anything else?
It has been so long since I've played chess
Im around 700 elo
why is it like i'm going through a loop from 725-756 then back to 724???
i hate it so much
some players are good and some just make and overlooks beginner mistakes
I am I just don’t play chess rn
Best line is qf7
I was now borderline 600
bcuz at 700 it's a battle of whoever blunders first
oh that's why
the problem is either i know the opening and take control of it or idk the opening and they dominate the board, making me more prone to blunders
now i understand
does anyone have tips to get control when u dont know, or at least that is not your main openings?
my rating last year aug was around 1874 , now im trash at chess around 1k
I dont get any ideas of what to do in middle games and then lose completely
Any tips?
Nice that is so good
what opening do u use? if you know your opening pretty well, you might get a better middlegame 🙂
I use 4 knights usually because all people play that at 600 level
With black I sometimes play Scandinavian to break the monotony
Sometimes London system
But I am not so good at the latter 2
your opening choices are pretty good, if you like reading chess books, i suggest reading "the complete manual of positional chess" vol 1 and 2, it's a pretty great book, I used it to increase my rating by 200 points
or if you don't really like books, maybe there are yt vids about your opening that will give you ideas for a better middlegame
Nice did you use like hard copy or softcopy
i just use the softcopy
sometimes i search google for the free pdf heh
the weirdest thing to happen....
I don't really do this but you can play systems, at your level I'd prolly recommend the boring london
welp, i'm a vienna player though 😦 do i need to study london? half of our players in our chess team at school plays london
and a scandi too, if d4 i play king's indian
You don't "need to" study anything 💀
What's your win rate with the vienna?
umm lemme check
how do u know??
chess.com says u need to upgrade
but i think many fall into taking the f pawn and they even put their knight to where my queen can take it
if the opening works just play it (maybe dive deeper in it)
and there's a website: openingtree.com to help you with researching your repertoire.
ok thanks! i watch gothamchess tbh for everything i need, sometimes other channels like remote chess academy
watch hikaru also
I'm here if you want for some blitz match
Dm?
hello
hi
does london work for 900s?
Hello.
tbf london works at like most levels if u know what ur doing
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just for a recommendation based on my personal experience: For beginner: White, i recommend italian or very basic vienna, (gotham reference) or london system. Black for beginner, maybe carokann, with the 3.c5 varaiation, which is really good. Or simply e4 e5 is fine. Intermidate white: i played Ruy lopez or if ur a 1.d4 person, then try the Jobava london. Intermediate black - maybe french which is what I did as it really helped me understand the middle game pawn structure. If not, you could experiment with the scandnavian but honestly, only if u like attacking. For Advanced white: this is where opening theory is a lot and people basically play random openings but still win cos their opening theory. But must positions either lead to Nadjorf or Nimso positions. This is just from personal experience though.
Also, if you're serious about learning openings, check up chessable.com or chessly
u wanna play tomorrow?
but tmr is like night for me, and i have school tmr
yo I am down to play rn
Chat, are we allowed to put google forms surveys in here?
I don’t wanna get into trouble with admin😭
As long as it's not a scam link/ad then mods tend to be pretty chill iirc
just open a support ticket and ask
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Hlo yoyo
I think there is a channel for surveys. But I’m not sure.
i want to learn to play chess.
yeah, but I don't fully understand it tbh
I just know this can move here. if u know what i mean
Yes I understand
I am a pretty low rated player and can't teach you much but I suggest you to watch Gotham chess youtube videos they can be both instructional and entertaining but don't watch like the gm matches or engine matches go for the lessons he has taught on different openings etc
I can teach a bit of basics if needed but not much
oh ok. np thanks
anyone here up for a game rn
yo can someone just dm me an opening to counter white’s e4 Nc3 Bg4
ye but u gotta understand it
cuz i dont
i went from 746 to 651
i am a failure
I got only 4 brilliant moves till today and I knew why they were brilliant f9r 3 of them I am still 620
I didn’t understand it and threw the game 20 moves later
Whoops
wdym only???? i don’t even know how to get a brilliant
You need to sacrifice a piece to get advantage
Let me send them
They are in a special hall of fame folder
They are my most proud moments in chess
The nc7 is my most fav
And nxe4
If you take the free bishop I promote
how does nc7 give you an advantage
couldnt you just move the king down
If you take it's mate in 3 if not you lose a rook
oh nice
Yes and after that I plundered 😰
noooooooo
I felt s sad after game reveiwing
tbf idk what i would do after the king coming down
yeah
Ok
Bye gtg it's very late at night here
How is Nxe4 a brilliant move 😭 at most it's a great move
Same with Bg4+
Fr 😭
wtf was this game bro I don't think I've ever gotten that before
I can play if you are there
blitz or rapid?
@frozen dawn you there?
yeah
PP on the PP is brilliant to chess.com ig 😭
gg
sure
ggs
gg
one more lmao?
@frozen dawn sure if you are there
bye
lol white could actually win that by capturing a pawn since black was just pre moving around the whole time
Black was me
yea
And I thought of that hence why I stopped premoving occasionally
makes sense
Both are sacrifices so that are brilliant
Nxe4 is actually very very complex
If you take the knight I take the queen
If you ignore the threat I take the queen with the knight
If you move the queen then bishop takes knight is a fork of king and rook
Bg4 is like a sacrifice of a bishop with check so you have 2 options:
Move the king and not take the bishop then we get a free queen coz of discovered attack
If you take the bishop with the pawn then we take the queen anyway and protect the rook from any attak
I think there are 2 ways to get more brilliant moves I think we should try the ICBM gambit and then we should see other gms and it's brilliant moves and understand why it is brilliant then we will look for such patterns
Basically deflection sacrifices are easier to get
Like the ones in paul morphy opera games
They are simple tactics, most of the time when they're played they're either great move or best move.
Nxe4 is just PP on the PP, while Bg4+ is just simple discover attack.
there's no way to forcve
i think
WAIT NO
ITS NB6+
Kb8 (forced)
then Rc3
if he queens
then Nd7+
if he moves king to b7, then Rb3+ and we win the queen
if he moves king to a7/a8, then Ra3+ then he moves king to b7 then Rb3+ and same idea
then we promote pawn and win
forced
boom
Whites pawn needs 7 steps
ok i didn’t read the whole thing
and we can reach
but i think the general idea is Rc6 or something
js read
ah got it
wait Rb3 the queen js takes? the rook isnt protected by the knight if the night is on d7
yeah but then Nc5+ because king is on b7 and queen on b3 so its a fork
king has to move
and we win the queen
oh gotcha
Do you guys understand why is it brilliant
yea bc Bxg5 attacks the queen and rook
It doesn't attack the queen
can u explain
Idk also
I think it's because
its brilliant
Because
It gives a better position
And wins material
Wait let me also check engine lines
The engine lines don't say much
Pls someone look it up
yes? when the bishop takes the knights its attacking the queen
My conclusion is that the only reason why it's a brilliant cause it allows white to gain a significant advantage as they are too many threats leaving black vulnerable
best way to learn chess as a beginner with a rapid rating of 600
Does anyone play FPS chess?
Xi xin ping lmao
What the...
Lol
I'm black in this game
My knight was hanging as well
The one on c6
Oopsy it cut out on the end, whatever, this could be a practice thingy for you guys, a puzzle almost.
No it couldn't
You didn't need to recapture the bishop
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I think Xi has bigger issues to worry about, such as the large amount of unemployment and low quality infrastructure falling appart.
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yo is anyone up for chess?
700 rated elo
but i can play against 800-900
for some reason
I am a noob still wanna play ?
sorry i got to go
i can try to play tmr
ill try to check my msgs tmr
Sure.. np
How do I learn chess?
watch videos and solve chess puzzles
lichess also has a lot of good free resources
e
use lichess for both learning and playing
but also play in chess.com since its used by literally the whole world ig
Anyone down to play 1998
I can play anyone with an elo 1960-2200. Cause my peak elo is around there
I'm down with any format
Alr I'm 2200 chess.com blitz
You just need to practice and read chess books
No I don't understand where I go wrong
Can you play a match and show me
Please can you play a match with me
Sure maybe later I'm out rn
What's your rating
My id what's yours
5+0
Ok
I don't have in reading so a quick march
@cosmic jewel I'll dm
Match
Ok
What's your elo
?
My last brilliant was 2 months ago 😭😭
@crisp prism what elo were you at?
1123
Nice
Demm
How is this brilliant what is the idea?
Should I play chess
depends
idk the amount of times I got a excellent is MASSIVE but no brilliant
damn
bro my elo is terrible
i only play bots and puzzles
and my elos 300
: (
bro everytime i play a human i consitently lose bro im martin in the flesh
were both cooked
Yes
at below quadruple digits as long as you dont blunder pieces and have half-decent king safety ideas then you should be able to work your way to 1100
coming from an 1100
Guys today was a great day
I pushed ahead by 33 elo
Now 647
That is a 5.1٪ increase in one day
I can beat bot up to 1300easily but can't beat a human 400-600 . Why?
I can beat bots of 1800 easily
Yet I am at 1100 elo
Players have their own level of tactics
Bots don't
Anyone is up for ?? Match
Same here i am 650 but beat upto 1500 both and draw 1700 bots
Oh ok
mmmmmm
also how does 10 | 15 work?
also has anyone here beat martina
brooooooooo im on a two game wins streakkkkkk
anyone wanna play to remind me im not him
Gotham chess has
you start with ten min then get 15 sec every move
It is 15 sec Increment per move
bots r kinda programed to lose
0o0o0o0o0o0ohhhhhhh
who want to play with me in blitz I am 329 elo in chess.com (sorry english is not my native language)
i will
@unkempt needle ok how much elo are you
blitz is lowk fun
u just attack
and waste their time
and watch the fear creep in
and then they do random moves
and you win

Only if what u said happens every game
has anyone ever seen this???
Are you talking about vatican city? The country?
Yeah
Like has anyone ever seen someone from the Vatican on here
Ohh I see. Idk people can set their country to whatever
Fr but it barely happens
YIPPEE
how
Hey, I have a chess tournament in 1.5 months from now, its a beginer tourney, only U1400, and its my first tournament. Anyone have any ideas on what I should do from now untill then?
What’s ur rating?
I would focus on puzzles, makes sure you get good rest
Thanks
1200
What I typically do before tournaments is just eliminate playing chess for a couple days so my mind is fresh and I don’t burnout
gl
How do I get better at chess I use to be able to play okay and then I quit and now i am terrible at it
guys who uses chessvision ai here
come on i know at least 3 of you guys do
Get on chess.com
lmao
Hello guys
I account got disabled by chess .com for no reason help
What I do to recover 😭
I guess they disabled coz I won 11 matches in a streak
Guys what opening do you most often play
Wish I could sent img, I got cooked bad
Same
English lol
Wouldn't be because of that, btw what's your rating so I could guess why you got banned
lets gooooo opponent mouseslip stalemate tactic
I still don't understand
Lol
Send link
What’s ur rating
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Double brilliant!!!
Yeah you use it??
yeah
lol
Italian
I don’t know any of the lines
But I like playing it
depends but usually kings pawn and then based on what my opponent does i do an opening
Hello beautiful people! I just joined gohars server, looking to make new friends!
My rating is 1132 before it was 1003
Is the Scandinavian defence good at 1000elo play?
Some people dislike the scandinavian as it is seen as going against opening principles
especially the main line with Qxd5
but the Nf6 variation is something that is very interesting
and I think if your opponents play c4 to hang on to the pawn
you can learn to play positions where you gambit another pawn with c6 with good compensation
What are you guys's elo?
154
Mines like 1200 but when I analyse my games it's normally like 1600
yo
I just started playing chess is there any good strategies or techniques I should learn
learn basic openings, value of pieces
pawn p9
heyyooo
I am 400+ elo (bearly) and i still keep losing any tips on how to get better?
hiii
yo
Hello
Send us your account and we'll see what we can do ☺️😜
get chess.com diamond its like 5 bucks a month but you can do infinite puzzles and review ur games
@hearty bone i think its a little bit more expensive, but you can use lichess, cause it is free, and you can do infinito puzzles too, to review games is good, but chess. Com os better, whats your ranting?
Hi
gg
Any advice on how to get out of a losing streak? 2 days ago I won net 5 games (7 won, 2 lost, 1 draw) and yesterday I lost net 10
Its especially demorilizing cuz I mainky play rapid, so a loss takes out a lot of time
Yeah, some days I only lose but you should just take a break and play when you aren't stressed
CHESS CLYB YAY 
yippee
You shouldn't be playing 10 games everyday, especially rapid.
You don't necessarily improve by playing chess over and over.
Ye
who wants to play?
Rating?
ANYONE?
@unique marsh
Yes?
U should be here
Im not qualified
I’m 1600 rapid
wanna do a match? im 540 so dont expect much
dude
wats ur elo
@obsidian bone please do not spam chess in the park, for some people who have there notifications for activities it can be very annoying for people when they are trying to do something, for example it is @ing the person that has notifications on for activities. So please don’t spam activities.
Bruh I’m cooked. I played chess for the first time in like 2 years earlier and got cooked by a 1150 bot. I peaked at 1900 elo. 😢
ohh my max was 990 elo
600 or 500
What can I do to reach 2000
I’m struggling at the 1600-1700 range to improve and feel like I’m stagnating
You should read tactical books and study
what book should i read?
There is so many uhh maybe The art of attack in chess by Vladimir Vukovic
ok
f4 came up in one of my games and i didnt knew what to do, can someone help?
(playing as black)(caro-kann opening)
you should probably play d5 and play the normal opening, they'll play e5 and then it's like an advanced variation but with f4
how so?
in the advaced you under mine the d4 pawn but here you have to undermine the f4 pawn but i dont know how to
I'm not active rn but my user is VTKing06
sorry but i don't understand what you mean by 'undermine'. but to my understanding i sure they'll play d4 to gain center control even after f4
not now sry
first chess win with no mistake!
Still better than me
sebby
Hello anyone there?
Heyo
Hi
How do I improve my openings/beginning of the game? Whenever my games are analyzed my mid to endgame is always really good relative to the beginning.
what's your elo
@sweet blade
It’s probably pretty outdated in terms of my actual skill, I’m coming back to chess after a 2ish year break. So in reality it’s probably closer to 1500-1600.
Just stick to opening principles and u should be fine
Srry for late response
surely sm plays
Hi
who wanna play?
i lost 80 elo in a within a few days
brilliant
I am decent to say the least I have beaten everybody in my school classes
What ur rating
on chess.con since I joke around 600
Oh
But in reality 1550
Oh
I don't take online seriously
Ok
This time I will
Since it is someone that is acc talking to me and not a bot
Lol
lol
Well I have been playing chess for 5 month with consistency I started when I was 13
Damm
Describe being a 14 yr old I only have a rapid rating of 952;-;
500 in blizr;-;
I need training for sure
Gg
1500
Thx
(International Master)
Ya ik
Okok
Well I have been in this server for a while, It probably would be me.
800-1200
Ok thanks
Now it’s me
Around 1900 USCF , 2300 Blitz chess.com
Really, you must be a CM at least then
Nice nice
I'm actually playing a tournament this weekend, out of state.
Oh nice, I'm going to Charlotte NC
Yeah, I try to.
ya same
I do a combination of both playing a few games and studying engames and what not
ya i play games and study openings while doing calculation
That is good, and good luck in your championship
ohh u are doing a scholastic nice
ya
I'd keep you updated 👍🏻
Ya same
bots especially below like 2200 are not really representative of actual ratings
ive beaten li and francis on multiple occasions yet im only 1100
at least you defeated nelson though
that goofy goober
Me type ur username
yeh i can
just play the discord one
?
Nahh thats so lagging and very annoying
Either lichess or chess.com
I will send a link
Join the challenge or watch the game here.
Accept it
yep
@azure walrus
done
GG
Yall know any underrated openings I could use?
sure but why
Kings Indian is a pretty good one
ok
Intercontinental missile 😆
Dutch defense,nizmo Indian and English
wanna play a game?
busch-gass gambit, which is basically a stafford gambit with different move orders and more variations
anyone up for a game?
timeout corner ahh checkmate
i have an 8 hour drive tomorrow
I made it 👍
1st round here we go
Gl
guys i wanna learn chess but idk where to start and how to be consistent
@wintry star I got a draw round 1, gotta play better in the next games 👍🏻
Fide?
USCF
Ouh
What's your rating
And what's the conversion from uscf to fide if theres any
1934
Good question not sure
who wants to play?
Damn
any mmode
Rating?
Idk, do u want rating?
What’s ur rating?
in blitz like 1300
its okey, im 1700 im rapid but i dont like it
Hey guys do yall have any tips on starting?
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Hi guys does anyone has any advice on how I can reach 1200 currently I'm hard stuck at 1000 on chess.com
Grind bruh
see even i was there once
first follow gothamchess and learn good openings
do drills
play puzzles
read the book by levy rozman
if you do this, you'll easier reach 1700 (my current rating)
if you want to give up, just imagine yourself playing at one competitions and winning it
Opening
Is the most important
Everybody at that level is like "Oh learn your principles it will do you just fine 🤓 " NO
If you learn an actual opening you'll have an advantage at the start and you just have to capitalize
bro what
Yeah so I have study 1 opening it's the ruy Lopez but that's practically the only opening I know
opening (at least theory) generally isn't very helpful at lower ratings
considering nobody you're gonna play knows theory
That's why I learn a bunch of gambits
i mean pick whatever opening but like
its not that deep whatever you pick just know generally what's supposed to happen
Thx
depends which one but those are good
nice way to learn attacking
I know I'm a hyper aggressive chess player and I play much better over the board than online (but that's only because aggressive chess play style is much scarier to face irl than on chess.com )
So it's kinda like a double edge sword except it's kinda hurting me more than doing good for me
True thx a lot
No yeah that’s the point
If you play a strong opening lots of times there are traps and mistakes
If you make a wrong move
but like
generally you have to get to that point
theres a couple ig like fried liver or wtv that are easier but like
You would be getting advantage regardless
If you do fried liver then it’s larger
below like 1500 +1 in the opening barely matters
But if your opponent plays some random sloppy stuff and you have a good opening position then
Anyone can blunder
i mean its good to learn an opening but like idt thats the way to get out of 1000
It was for me
the way to get out of 1000 is to just see 1 move tactics and not blunder the pieces
I got strong with like a basic opening
And nobody was breaking it so
Now of course that isn’t the savior for middle and endgames
But there’s no real way to get better at not blundering besides playing
Or doing puzzles
puzzles are v good at that
In terms of playing the game opening is the most important I would say
but also playing
but like why
i could play somebody 500 points higher than me with like piece odds out of the opening and ill still probably lose
really? i thought it would be the middle game
esp at a lower level theres just so much breadth of opening you'll face that like you cant just study your way out of
i would bet after like 3 moves for me as white i've probably reached like 100 something positions
of those like maybe 15 that ive actually studied
To practice and develop
If you aren’t considering the learning aspect then yeah middle or endgame is more important
only including ones w/ 1.d4
and my actual prep
Well you would want a longer opening
And one that you can do that doesn’t strictly rely on exact moves from ur opponent
wdym longer opening
my prep is fairly deep
my point is
like 75% of the things you face at like 1000 ish are just random bs moves that don't make sense
theres no reason to actually study the moves
since you can just play chess and you'll be fine
That’s wrong
75% is crazy overestimating
you will be out of prep by like move 6
and thats like
generous
If that happens then yeah your opponent probably played some random sloppy move
exactly
But most of the times they know how to follow
And if they play that sloppy move you have a stronger position
what 1000s are you playing
So just leverage from thrrr
probably barely
I suck so bad at bullet 😭
theres a ton of random moves that arent that bad in most openings
Haven’t even gotten there yet
🤔If the opponent plays a decent move usually that would be included in study
there is no possible way to include every half decent move in a study
and if it is
its not worth the time
Half decent is different
That’s an advantage
And you can use it
After that point it’s just not blundering
Which is a whole different struggle
this move has been played 30 times in the entire masters database out of millions of games
it is barely better for white
no reasonable opening prep for a majority of people will include this move
its move 5
Okay so continue developing your position
It’s still opening segment of the game
see exactly
did you have to consult an engine and study
you just play h3 d4 and play fine
Also btw is it actually 30 out of millions
as long as you just know how to develop pieces your opening will be fine
I’ve seen this before as black
in masters db yeah
lc database quite a few more
yeah
You don’t want to study things that aren’t going to apply to your level either
yes
Like stay away from those crazy openings
which at that level is opening theory that is past like move 4
this is the italian this is as like vanilla as an opening can possibly get
Which is why he should look at this opening and know what to do here
you dont need to look at it beforehand
you can just figure it out mid game
unless you are playing some insanely sharp opening most of the time if you make a move that looks like it makes sense its probably a fine move
you can probably eek out a bit more of an advantage with specific lines/prep but like realistically at a 1000 level +0.5 and like +1.5 are basically the same thing
I agree with that
But it gives potential for more
You should still have that there
It’s worse to be disadvantaged
theres a reason hikaru bongclouded to like 3000 blitz or wtv he got to
Most people won’t make obvious blunders for the other player at the level
knowing how to calculate and just like play chess from any position is what's important for most people
It’s not 300
😭
Well
I understand the point but you’re using an ultra super top 2 gm as an analogy for a 1k elo player
Learning opening also helps with how to calculate
i mean kind of but not really
But I learned that from just playing a lot
It’s meh
theres not alot of concreteness to calculate from in the opening
Queen opening
I completely disagree, developing foundational principles is the most important.
Are you okay, like...
WARE OPENING TO GRANDMASTERRRRRRR
You are not getting to grandmaster