Hot Takes

[unkempt pier]

highkey YES

[shrewd heath]

Tbh it took me until like 2020-2021 to realise they were supposed to be the same character

[tawny plover]

Halgorythm slander won't be tolerated.

That's genuinely stupid honestly. Reloaded Hal is my favorite design for him because it gets the OG Hal design across while having a hint of concept art and the toons design.

Yeah? And? Iron bird has a visor on like Lazer chuck does, and halgorythm's eyes are completely unique because he has LED lights for eyes

AroAce person here. Yeah. I completely agree. He does give off that sorta vibe.

[celest charm]

YES

He was 100% aromantic in the first movie, and I didn’t like how he just fell for silver at the end from holding hands

[celest charm]

A fellow AroAce person in the server? MY MAN

[plush hearth]

Yes it will he’s bland

[plush hearth]

Ok good for you, i don’t like it because it feels clunky, uneven, unappealing and it doesn’t mesh well with itself

[plush hearth]

Vro did not understand why i said what i said

[tawny plover]

You didn't even rank reloaded Hal. You ranked FRIENDS HAL.

Left: reloaded.
Right: friends.

Also you don't have to be nasty about it y'know. I'm just trying to say. Why people like the design.

[plush hearth]

Notice how little actually changes between the two designs

Beak and eye get moved further apart, eye ring is no longer flush with the beaks curve, and the outline colour is different

[tawny plover]

Yeah. And the small details actually fixes the wonky design for me. For you no. But for people like me it does.

[tawny plover]

At least it's better than those fan models that just re-use assets from other Designs

[plush hearth]

Body’s still asymmetrical and oddly pointy at the top, headfeathers are still uneven, the eye ring colour on reloaded seems to be more vibrant too, it doesn’t go with the green as nicely as the friends colour does
Not to mention the eye ring on friends meshing with the beak actually makes the beak feel like it belongs on the body a little

Also this is a way more personal thing but his beak takes up so much vertical space on his body

[tawny plover]

I actually do agree with that. They should've made it just a little less tall.

And given that extra size to fix his actual body looking it got compressed

The yellow should be more golden yellow-ish than lemon-yellow.

[plush hearth]

My goat could never have a proportion problem, he’s perfect

[tawny plover]

I think the problem people have with him is that he suffers from what I like to call "the scraptrap effect"

[tawny plover]

Idk why but for me OG Hal always looked like his beak was photoshopped on.

[ivory steppe]

The beak ring just looks wonky, and the eyebrow is way too exaggerated to the point where it looks weird. Chrome just feels like a better version in a lot of ways.

[plush hearth]

Idk why either, to me it looks normal
It’s not like barely on the edge of his body, it’s fully cemented in the centre of his face and i think that helps establish it as a part of the body
Especially with the beak ring having a curve to it, it just feels more integrated to me than reloaded/friends

[tawny plover]

His eyebrows should've been bigger

Makes him look like a caveman

[ivory steppe]

Tbh, Reloaded Hal and Pre-Chrome Hal feel around the same level of how well they look to me.

[plush hearth]

The only real “wonkiness” on the beak ring i can see is on the bottom right, i think it looks nice and flush
And i don’t think the exaggeration of the anger in his eye is the problem, i think that it’s that his brow is barely on the edge of the eye (lol)
Chrome hal’s eyebrow covers more of it so it looks a bit more natural

It’s practically symmetrical too!

[arctic zenith]

Tbh, the chucks old design is so much better than the original design, it looks so cute and simplified

[plush hearth]

Idk, i think that the final design was a solid choice
Especially for marketing and brand
Only giving red that iconic black unibrow creates for a standout “main character” trait
Not to mention with chuck being the most observant and proactive one in the cutscenes, him being almost the size of the blues wouldn’t do him justice, having him be larger than red and smaller than bomb and matilda makes him feel nice and balanced for his intended intimidation

I will say though, i love how that beta cutscene chuck is the missing link between the final design and this guy, it’s hilarious

[open timber]

Thing is, Red doesn't have a unibrow

[plush hearth]

ok but that’s kinda pedantic when you consider that it’s connected in like 80% of merch

[open timber]

'Cause he's frowning

That gives the illusion of a unibrow

[plush hearth]

and thats his default expression
that looks like a unibrow
so for all intents and purposes in merch. that’s exactly how it appears

as i said, you’re being pedantic

[celest charm]

Hot take: AB2 needs new boss themes

ESPECIALLY ones that sound dark and traumatizing like in AB Star Wars

[onyx vortex]

trilogy's theme shouldn't have been in classic, should've been a new remix

[shrewd heath]

Explain?
.

Hot take: everyone gives WAY too much attention to the main theme, I mean it’s a good song, but like there are more songs nobody really covers or rearranges except for maybe the egg defender theme, the other songs have like only one or two remixes and that’s kinda a shame, there are other good songs in angry birds y’know?

[plush hearth]

i want more AB Go covers but i understand its a pain in the tail to transcribe em

[tired lodge]

Where did the hal skull come from?

[plush hearth]

no idea, it was just in the tierlist so i put it in there

[cedar schooner]

Forman pig should have no mustache

[nova plank]

yes but specifically the MOOOOOO 🐮 OOOOOVIE maybe I shouldve added: "Movie design" lol

because silvers design in the movie is diff than her ingame one and makerspace

[onyx vortex]

everyone should lower their expectations with rovio

[plush hearth]

^ everyone shouldn’t have to, but considering rovio itself it’s best to not get too excited with its track record

[onyx vortex]

especially with the potiental console game

[polar meadow]

Hot Take: Everyone should create a similar rule when it comes to everyday life. 😅

[plush hearth]

hot take: lowering your expectations for everyday life is a doomer mentality that you really should try and stay away from
for rovio tho its completely justified

[polar meadow]

Nah. Setting high expectations in life, just leads to being constantly disappointed.

[wary pagoda]

Very true

[celest charm]

Yeah, that’s why I always listen to the MJ quote from spider man: no way home

“Always expect disappointment, so that when you get it, you won’t be disappointed”

[plush hearth]

Maybe Rovio should’ve stuck with depressed birds as the name

Because jesus

[onyx vortex]

the name was always gonna angry birds, depressed birds is misinfo from someone

[cedar schooner]

Cheff pig < Freezer Pig

[plush hearth]

T’was a joke about how the earlier replies were depressing for not getting hopes up for life

[onyx vortex]

ah

[nova plank]

claps

👏

[subtle zenith]

Leonard is a fun character in the movies, and despite it not making all too much sense without context from the movies, I think him being part of the flock is pretty cool (I'm just a sucker for redeemed villains)

Plus he's kind of a spiritual successor to Piggy McCool, so yeah

[celest charm]

AB2 needs new music, bosses and maps. I’m serious, I’m kind of bored of the repetitive maps and same old themes. We need something more exciting and funky like how AB reloaded has multiple unique maps and tracks

[subtle zenith]

a boss who can actually fight back to some degree would be fire, even if it's just something like the screwdriver pig, it'd be so much more fun to work around instead of just using silver/bubbles/stella to oneshot them and call it a day

[plush hearth]

500 construction hat and firefighter pigs

[ember oar]

AB2 fell off after they took away lives from the main levels but its all good since i have Leonard

[rain anvil]

This isn't hot take at all

I think most AB2 players would agree with this

[unkempt pier]

most ab2 players probably dont listen to the music

[rain anvil]

too bad, AB2 tracks are actually neat

some of them are BEAK

[plush hearth]

Crazy how ab2 players literally don’t even enjoy the best part of the game

[modern mango]

Idk if this is a hot take but I think the gameplay Loop of ab go (pre 2.0) is kind of repetitive and you don't get better by playing it since it really only matters on upgrades that's mainly the reason why I play everything on medium and the characters have very specific moves that become useless in certain game modes the only game mode that actually works with every character is racing and versus every other game mode either relies on speed or collecting stuff

[wary pagoda]

True, true

[spiral forum]

would it be a hot take if i said the classic art style just.. isnt good? i dont know, theres just not a lot of variety in the art style. its got same-face syndrome in a way, and i just dont like it. i prefer the toons art style by a lot, just as someone who grew up with both toons AND classic. i also just dont like the classic games much. not seasons though i looooove seasons 🙏

[unkempt pier]

the best thing about the classic style is post-chrome pigs imo

toons pigs are really close to beating them though

[spiral forum]

i prefer the toons pigs, but i lowkey agree

[unkempt pier]

hot take maybe but I feel like using the classic art style isn't really the best decision for everything

like, I don't see the new Reloaded content ever working in the classic style

toons is necessary

but it also shouldn't be the only style used

character designs & blocks in Friends/Reloaded are much worse than in the classics imo

ESPECIALLY the pigs

and terence for some reason, there's just something that feels wrong with his reloaded/friends sprite

in conclusion to my statement, everything has it's positives

[spiral forum]

exactly!!! just from a business pov, i think using the reloaded or toons art style would be better. toons serves as a rebooted art style, and also there isnt a huge issue with same-face syndrome. sure the eyes arent super different, but its the art style. the faces can be told apart (if that makes sense), but classic can to sorta? the silhouettes can for sure. of course all the minion pigs are the same, but thats on purpose

[unkempt pier]

about the eyes, don't we forget characters such as Stella, Jo, Gordon and etc.

[spiral forum]

true

[unkempt pier]

the special pigs look much better in toons for sure though

[spiral forum]

also, i feel like when stella was introduced, the same face syndrome was kinda. broken? because she has different eyes from everyone else in the classic games shes in.

[unkempt pier]

prime examples, chef pig & professor pig

even foreman

[spiral forum]

also YESSS!! i love chef, corporal, foreman, basically all the special pigs

though ngl i wish leonard had a different shape because he kiiiinda looks like a minion pig sorta

like you would think he'd be bigger

also also;
ive said this to friends before, but one of the reasons why i personally love the movie designs, even if i hate them being overused, is that theres variety in the character's bodies. not with just the birds, but the pigs too! i love that they vary in height, shape, etc. they stay round it seems, but its still really nice to see variety in height and even weight!

[unkempt pier]

yeah the movie designs aren't a problem

it's just the time span of ~2016 till about 2023 when they were overused

I feel like they've learnt from that mistake nowadays

[spiral forum]

they have! and im honestly glad

[unkempt pier]

I have hopes thanks to 2025

2025 was a nice year

best 1 in a while

[plush hearth]

i will say that a lot of classic-styled fanart has same-face syndrome, but there’s good variety in the flock in the game. Pigs? yeah they’re repetitive. But i think the main appeal of classic comes from it’s Y2K looking style, like it’d fit in amongst characters like Hello Kitty or Domo

[spiral forum]

true...

[shrewd heath]

His face is too big, usually his face is supposed to be way smaller

[clever copper]

In O.G. Angry Birds, blues were awesome: like a cluster bomb. Now they're bouncy little guys with little to no impact

[lilac hemlock]

Go is overrated, the only thing that saved epic was sonic, and Rio is better than both star wars games

[rain anvil]

Not as wide and bold-looking like Toons

[unkempt pier]

hottest takes this week

-# the 2nd one is so confusing

[rain anvil]

-# I agree on Rio one

[lilac hemlock]

The only thing that saved epic for me was that sonic the hedgehog was playable

[onyx vortex]

the reason why sonic collabed is funny

[rain anvil]

[waxen breach]

Jay, Jake and Jim are underrated in angry birds 2

[nova plank]

yeah theyre a funny challenge bird and sometimes i like to push buildings with them lol

[waxen breach]

Same

I used to think they sucked 3 years ago

Now I think their goated

They always clutch

[strange plaza]

Okay so who here originally thought the buildings in the background of danger above and in the original intro implied humans existed near where the birds were

[onyx vortex]

piggy island moves

[remote parcel]

No, it doesn't

[onyx vortex]

it does according to bad piggies: book of wisdom

[remote parcel]

Who says that?

Professor Pig?

[onyx vortex]

no

[remote parcel]

You know that most of the pigs aren't smart, right?

"Oh, let's visit Golden Island! Let me just DRIVE PIGGY ISLAND THERE"

"LOOK OUT!!! PIGGY ISLAND WILL CRASH INTO ANOTHER LAND!!!"

Why it doesn't shake with the giant waves during a storm?

[remote parcel]

If that's true, why they didn't showed us that yet?

This should be relevant

And this idea is so stupid in my opinion

How would that even work?

How would the island and its population react with the constant change of temperature with the island roaming around the sea like if it was a lost ship?

And if they wanted to travel to somewhere, they would use a boat, a plane, a box, or even launch themselves through the slingshot.

[plush hearth]

It’s just an in-universe worldbuilding thing to say why piggy island isn’t on a map
The alternative is saying “well it’s a fictional island with limbless animals why would it exist?” And thats boring

[remote parcel]

But it should exist in this world

[rain anvil]

Yet it doesn't, I mean there was always way to base Bird, Pig, Eagle and Golden Islands on real life islands and archipelagos but OG creators went with fictional place and we can't blame them for that

[remote parcel]

Not in our world, btw

[rain anvil]

Are we sure bout that?

I know Movie Dimension isn't only one but islands there are placed on Pacific Ocean (which is called Birdlantic Ocean there for some reason)

[remote parcel]

In this version of Earth, not in our Earth

[plush hearth]

piggy island exists in angry birds earth

it doesn’t exist on real earth

and the lore says “you can’t find it on a map” because kids would probably check for it, and the “can’t find it on a map” / “it keeps moving” are ways to explain why its not on a real world map

[unkempt pier]

dont we forget that 1 case of a little kid diving in the ocean to try and reach bikini bottom

its a good thing they never specified anything about it

[rain anvil]

[celest charm]

I beg your finest pardon?

[remote parcel]

Except that Piggy Island is real and it exists in our world!!!!

But it's different

[remote parcel]

Wait, did that just happened?

[open timber]

No it doesn't

[dim gale]

Angry birds hot take:
Why are the pigs trying to steal the bird's eggs when they can just buy eggs in the supermarket

[remote parcel]

Yes, it does. Seriously

[open timber]

I'm not buying it

[remote parcel]

In Thailand

[open timber]

What does Thailand have to do with a fictional island?

[remote parcel]

No, wait, it's located in Bahamas

Koh Samui

[unkempt pier]

years ago yes

[unkempt pier]

i dont get how this is a hot take acc

[plush hearth]

not a hot take i was responding to the “it’s real” take

[unkempt pier]

oh ic

[celest charm]

Because supermarket eggs have preservatives and are frozen for extended periods of time?

Meanwhile the birds eggs are always fresh and contain no preservatives or chemicals

[ember oar]

how many eggs do the birds really have i forgot

because if they dont have many its a good point

since there is a whole species of pig you cant divide that

unless there is something im missing im not really in on every single rovio thing

[plush hearth]

Pigs get the eggs for the king

Only kings are allowed to eat the eggs

And smoothcheeks really wants those eggs

[ember oar]

oh only kings?

i didnt know that i thought it was divided

[celest charm]

3

And they haven’t hatched since 2012 or smt like that

My headcanon is that the birds are an endangered species, since those 3 eggs are their last ones

[plush hearth]

The number changes

Fsr there’s usually 3-4 eggs in circulation

[ember oar]

obama bird:

[tawny plover]

and 4 in reloaded

[celest charm]

Yeah that’s strange

Why did they suddenly change it to 4

[tawny plover]

idk. But it's four in reloaded.

[ivory steppe]

4th is Red and Silver’s son.
-# /j, but it’s not impossible.

[tawny plover]

Nah it's the space egg trust joking

[ivory steppe]

I know it says joking, but I’m going to pull a AB fan move and ignore that bit and point out that the 4th egg can also be seen in Sowhenge and Bouncy Trouble.

-# Again, I know you don’t seriously think it’s the Space Egg.

[tawny plover]

I never played sowhenge and I never beat bouncy trouble

So I didn't know that

[ivory steppe]

Ah.

[tawny plover]

Yeah. And I literally added him in my remade ending cutscene

[celest charm]

This would have been a better ending

I remember back in old AB2 they completely forgot about bubbles in the cutscenes

[tawny plover]

Ab2..?

Wdym

[keen monolith]

Honestly if ruby appears in the third movie in a post credits scene I would still be happy

[inland locust]

and then chuck would start dating ruby for revenge on red

[unkempt pier]

🤝

-# Being the most overrated characters in the series

[plush hearth]

Icl i feel like i see more people talk about hockey bird than tony

[fickle magnet]

Yeah

[tawny plover]

This means war.

[rain anvil]

Reloaders vs Moderators before Stella's Flock in Reloaded

[celest charm]

“Overrated” dawg…

Tony only ever appeared in AB seasons and reloaded

Ruby doesn’t even have any game appearances

If you’re gonna call a bird overrated, at least make it someone in the main flock like chuck

[plush hearth]

I mean, if they’re being glazed a lot while contributing nothing…

[ivory steppe]

Bounce and Friends. Although she’s not playable in Friends and is basically a cameo.

[celest charm]

They’re only being glazed because the fanbase wants them to make a comeback

And somehow nobody calls ice bird overrated even though he’s only in ab space

And reloaded*

[plush hearth]

And bounce

[celest charm]

Ye

[plush hearth]

Overglazed for 2 and 1.5 appearances respectively

Not every minor character is gonna be the secret 24th member of the flock

And sometimes they deserve time away from the limelight
(Or any light at all)

[tawny plover]

Bounce, friends, GO (scrapped), got tons of merch + an unused design with a plushie of it.

[tawny plover]

The fake bird beak gimmick in ABSW II made no sense and never should've been a thing. It's basically just to say that villains HAVE to be the pigs in the AB universe. And vice-versa with the heros.

[fickle magnet]

Clone troopers in ABSW have a reason to say

[rain anvil]

-# we got bird villain in the same game and we got one on a game which released 2 years before

So yes, it doesn't make sense

In the worlds of aliens and various things, Pig being an ally to Birds shouldn't seem like abstraction

[rain anvil]

-# Redkin Skywalker and Nigel btw

[fickle magnet]

My Clone trooper design concept arts are real bird to be accurate as if they were altered from Jango Fett, who is a pig in-game, so yeah

[ivory steppe]

I think it’s to simplify:

• This guy, bad.
• This guy, good.
• This guy, pretending to be good.

I don’t mind it, and I actually quite liked it.

[rain anvil]

I always found it funny why the hell Bird Side didn't suspect a thing when they saw his mouth under his beak

[fickle magnet]

I mean, Sheev Palpatine in-game should have just an alter bird identity as he was Chancellor. (But secretly a Sith lord pig by alter ego)

[tawny plover]

So like how his face swaps in Lego star wars droid tales?

[fickle magnet]

Uh… yes like that.

[onyx vortex]

ab epic is a bad game in general

[inland locust]

ok I know this is for hot takes

but please elaborate

[arctic zenith]

Why? Journey is even worse

[plush hearth]

I don’t think epic is bad but this is poor reasoning

“I don’t think X is bad because Y is worse”
They could potentially both be bad, just because one is worse doesn’t stop the other from being bad

[unkempt pier]

bruv

[sturdy estuary]

I genuinely think that Angry Birds 3 has potential, if Olly is a minor character.

[inland locust]

yeah but if he was a minor character rovio wouldn’t waste money on hiring kim kardashian’s son for the role

[plush hearth]

You’d think so

But Jojo Siwa voiced one of the blues in the 2nd film

[inland locust]

jojo siwa is less popular and probably asked for less money to hire

than a friking kardashian

[plush hearth]

Still popular

Lest we forget all of the other celebrity voices too

[shy valve]

Guys hot take but don’t you think the power ups from AB2 should be real birds? (duck, chilli, ice, etc)

[obsidian shore]

so the ice spell will be ice bird?

[inland locust]

I mean some of them could work

• not like I ever use spells

so it would be nice

but what birds would even replace them?

the duck is just blues on steroids

the chilli is literally jsut dahlia's ability ng;

*ngl

and what would the green gun thing be?

I dont know any bird with an ability similar to it

[shy valve]

It could just be a bird of any kind because think about when you use the ability, the object disappears so same thing applies with the birds

Mighty eagle is quite literally mighty eagle

[shy valve]

What about a different type of Leonard?

That has a guaranteed hit on a pig

And just does the ability of the green gun

[plush hearth]

I personally don’t really mind
The spells do their job well enough

Maybe make some of em more relevant to AB itself
Duck - Piggy Bank
Chilli is just the Rage Chilli so i’m chill with it
Freeze - Ice Bird (obviously, but still really funny that he isn’t)
Pig Puffer - Bubbles flask from Short Fuse

[shy valve]

I made this Ice variant of red (Ik there’s already a bird for that purpose but wtevs lol)

Or something like this for the chilli pepper then it could have a fire trail

[shy valve]

Yeah something like that

[winged arch]

I don’t like the idea of Red having a sister or any siblings really

[nova plank]

I think all pig characters are all extremely boring and mid lore game and power wise

[inland locust]

idk about all the pigs but yeah most of them are kinda mid

[nova plank]

bc its the stereotype theyre weak physically and mentally

i think when u call someone a pig

[crystal cedar]

Add atleast 2 of these back

[tawny plover]

Both star wars games cant

Neither can rio

[inland locust]

that means their fat

[inland locust]

well there are only 2 options here that can be added

and both of those are in reloaded so I doubt they will do a separate release

[crystal cedar]

Oh, well atleast I have 4 devices with all those apps:)

[nova plank]

and greedy too

link king pig

[karmic harness]

RC:AB isn't a bad game

Not a PERFECT remaster of ABClassic, sure

But it's the best we can get from modern Rovio

And does what it's set out to do pretty well

[rain anvil]

ekhem & ?

[plush hearth]

That’s apple, not rovio

[muted latch]

No, Apple doesn't make those games. Rovio does

Same team that makes Reloaded made RC:AB

[plush hearth]

(I was being snarky lol, i know)

[muted latch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-angry-mad-gif-16754054616247640902

[unkempt pier]

you gotta give credit when credit is due

[karmic harness]

In terms of the Classics coming back, you silly

[rain anvil]

Well isn't Reloaded 80% Classics?

[karmic harness]

But it's a seperate continuity from the Classics

Plus it alternates said content

[rain anvil]

It works like in kingdom building games, spending money gives update right on the spot

[rain anvil]

Fair enough

[karmic harness]

If we're talking full, unalternated content from the Classics

RC:AB is the closest thing

[tawny plover]

I actually never knew that! Interesting fact

[obsidian shore]

Space and Classic are the only games that can return, Rio and both Star Wars 1 and 2 are owned by Disney

[unkempt pier]

-# every single hot take is cold as ice

[obsidian shore]

Like him?

[unkempt pier]

COLDER

[ivory steppe]

?

[unkempt pier]

not THIS cold

but very cold nonetheless

[obsidian shore]

colder than cold cuts?

[strange plaza]

We always mention the hot takes but never the cold gives

[open timber]

only the main 4 of the flock are returning, so...

And Hal and Bubbles definitely will be just cameos

[karmic harness]

These Cuts are so Cold, man

[echo mountain]

Journey is genuinely a good game if you ignore the Rovio Standard

[karmic harness]

Journey is pretty much a toddler's first Angry Birds game

[tawny plover]

I lowkey agree with both of y'all on this

Hell. It's one of the only AB games I actually play

[past igloo]

Very hot take
||I kind of love the treasure pass (except for the price)||
I actually wanted for a pass to appear, as long as the daily 60 gems exist I won't be mad

[past igloo]

It is

[tired lodge]

Idk if this is a hot take or not but reloaded Hal isn't really a bad design imo and is probably a top 3 for me

[unkempt pier]

That is in fact a hot take

[ivory steppe]

A valid hot take I may add.

[tired lodge]

In fact my top 3 hals are
Toons concept J
Pre chrome
Reloaded

[tawny plover]

Agreed

[plush hearth]

most hot takes that arent just objectively wrong or bait are all valid

[ember oar]

Hot take this hot take is valid but i STRONGLY dislike the hals with the ring around the beak

it feels unnecessary for me but i adore the other two

[plush hearth]

I agree, but the other things also feel unnecessary, so i removed them!

They look so much better!

(Unironically though its crazy how concept J still looks good, the other 2 need those yellow parts to keep a design balance)

[tawny plover]

Something just feels wrong about reloaded hal without the yellow eyebag

[plush hearth]

No, no! It’s totally fine! The yellow accents are unnecessary!

[tawny plover]

Nostalgia biased much?

[plush hearth]

Definitely

[tawny plover]

Reloaded Hal is fine as is

Just saying.

[unkempt pier]

Yes, it needs a dark green eyebag

the yellow SUCKS

Chrome Hal will forever be the best

[tawny plover]

I don't see the issue with it

Makes him more unique and less like toons hal

[plush hearth]

Wouldn’t it make him look more like toons hal since he has that too

[tawny plover]

Toons Hal has a dark eyebag. not lemon yellow

[keen monolith]

I want the third movie to have the long lost sibling reunion plot

[plush hearth]

uh huh.

[tawny plover]

I must be blind then

Because I SWORE THAT WAS BLACK

[merry hemlock]

mandela effect

[vital hare]

I have quite a few hot takes but since we're on the topic of Hal designs:
I think his designs peaked in the Kombo era. Most of the others either lean too goofy (Movie, AB2, etc) or too serious (Toons). Kombo era Hal designs (there's two versions, one with green feathers and one with the usual black feathers) just hit that perfect sweet spot where there's still that silly friendly Hal energy, but it also reins it in the goofiness enough to convey the hidden wisdom of the character.

As far as specific elements go. I generally don't like the mouth ring in Hal designs (the beige one present in his first design), but the eye rings can either better or worsen a design depending on use. Two toned beak is usually better imo, but it, again, depends on execution.

[wanton isle]

Stella x Gale is a pretty good ship

[karmic harness]

Cold take

[vital hare]

I feel like any ship will inevitably be a hot take because of how varied people's tastes are with them.
A hot take is any opinion that is divisive within a space, so by extension just about every ship would be classed as one to some degree.

[echo mountain]

I think that one specifically because theyre enemies

[plush hearth]

I cant read i’m an angry birds fan

[plush hearth]

Personally i feel that Kombo’s design is goofier than the movie’s design
He’s a lot more balanced in the movie design, his body and beak take up roughly the same amount of space and despite his animations showing him as a tad clumsy, he’s also clearly able to keep his head on in situations too. Kombo’s beak is too big and rounded compared to his body, he looks like he has a giant nose. The two small eyes above his comically large beak add to this.
It’s perhaps the goofiest incarnation of him, just above protochrome hal

[vital hare]

I just think there's a level of charm that counteracts the goofiness that the movie designs just kind of lacks. (Well it does have its own charm, but not the same type of charm, if you get me.) The hook at the end of the beak sort of kills the nose-ness of it IMO also, it just looks like a bill to me.

I think the main thing is that he still looks like he thought behind his eyes. The movie design makes the guys borderline fish-eyed and the stubby little hands for his body size just ooze completely and utter goofiness. AB2 fixes the eyes a fair bit but I'd still say it's goofier than Kombo Hal by a decent margin.

The one in the cookbook does give major dodo bird energy though tbf, overly goofy Kombo Hals definitely do exist, that one's probably the goofiest Hal design in the series. (It's the teeth, the teeth make it extremely goofy, and the bill's too smooth.)

[remote parcel]

Toons Hal superior

AB2 Hal inferior

[tawny plover]

Cold take but I disagree heavily.

Toons hal is absolute garbage

[ivory steppe]

AB2 Hal isn’t great, but better than Toons Hal, that’s for sure.

[plush hearth]

Personally the sheer tightness of the curve kinda kills any resemblance to a typical beak, and the orange vertical line is what really sells it as a long schnozz tbh, that small point doesn’t really do anything

Movie hal doesn’t look too thoughtless (when he’s not in a stock render), and i personally think that AB2’s flatter design style only emphasises the size of his eyes. For the movies, it makes sense that sometimes his eyes would pop out against his silhouette but for AB2 it just reads as overall horrendous

Cookbook hal is basically just kombo with teeth and illustrated so they’re basically the same to me

Perfect balance of aura and proportion personally

[remote parcel]

Agree in disagree

[timid iron]

did someone call my oldself

-# (my old nickname was colder)

[remote parcel]

And they should have used his Toons design instead of giving him THOUSANDS of redeigns

Like, the rest of the characters have their Toons designs, why not Hal?

[vital hare]

He looks like he'd bite your hand of if you even thought about standing within 10 meters of him.
Works for most of the other birds but not for one of the like three characters who isn't actually angry all the time.

[echo mountain]

Hal having his upper beak being longer is better

[plush hearth]

Yeah that’s fair, i do think that toons-adjacent hal’s can pull off a less angry look tho, like imo the best way to interpret the huge amount of colours on him is to think of him as the “chill/ ‘free spirit’ uncle with tattoos” type

[merry hemlock]

Is this Hal‘s Toons design?

[plush hearth]

Yes

[merry hemlock]

So if Hal were in the Toons series, it would look like this?

I actually like the toons design it feels nostalgic and makes him look like a toucan

But his “boomerang” powers don‘t suit him

[plush hearth]

Nahh they can work
Obviously it looks a bit ridiculous because of the sheer length of his beak, but it does work!

[remote parcel]

Wait, how did you not know this?

[remote parcel]

LOVE this design

They should be using it like the rest of them

Instead of giving him a new design every single time

Can they just... STOP? Please?

[onyx vortex]

more or less, it's the most well known design though it does get some tweaks

[onyx vortex]

ain't stopping soon sadly

[ivory steppe]

Let’s gooooo!!! #NewHalDesign4Bounce!!!
-# /j

[unkempt pier]

no /j only /srs

[merry hemlock]

I thought Hal never had a Toons design, and I thought this design was his AB Go! design.

[plush hearth]

AB Go! uses toons designs, plus he was animated in the AB Coca Cola trailer and used in AB Rio’s Rio 2 levels

[merry hemlock]

That means AB2 uses the Toons design too. So why didn’t they use Hal’s original Toons design and instead use the movie design?

I think the characters’ movie designs are based on the Toons designs, so Hal should have had the Toons design in the movies too.

Maybe something like this:

[onyx vortex]

he doesn't have one toons design but the original is the most iconic

[plush hearth]

Some think it’s because his beak is “too big”
Personally i just think they love changing his design and they saw an opportunity to game-ify the movie design (which made no sense since it already adapted the chrome design)

[merry hemlock]

agree

[remote parcel]

THANK YOU!!!

[charred ingot]

I honestly think it also has to do with the type of bird Hal is, I think they tried to make him look more like what type of bird he actually is irl, although he honestly comes off more as like an actual toucan, but he's a very specific toucan if I remember correctly it's the Emerald toucan, but I think it honestly makes him stand out too much from the other birds while most other birds had minimal changes, hal always had the most.

I do miss his classic design and I like his current one but they add back his black hair tuffs even if it isn't realistic

[remote parcel]

There's another one that's looks very much like Hal

https://www.instagram.com/p/DJcK0R3OZ6R/?igsh=MThrM29xN2tjOHE5OQ==

nfwctally

Meet Kiwi, one of the newest residents at the Wildlife Center! 🥝

Kiwi is an emerald toucanet, a small but stunning member of the toucan family known for their vibrant green plumage and curious personalities. For now, Kiwi is serving as an ambassador animal - but we hope to pair him with a female once our Small Bird Aviary Complex is complete...

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[vital hare]

There's actually two species of Emerald Toucanet, I don't think it's specified which of them Hal is supposed to be though.

[charred ingot]

I think they did say it but I just forgot

[vital hare]

The northen variety occurs in central america whilst the southern variety is found in south america

[merry hemlock]

Hal is giving Silver
Both designs changed after the movies

[remote parcel]

They should have used his Toons design for Angry Birds 2...

[tawny plover]

Hell no. That design is actually horrendous.

[unkempt pier]

maybe we need a new thread to argue about Hal

or maybe...

[plush hearth]

its like trying to choose a favourite child…

[unkempt pier]

you have to.

[plush hearth]

i went with classic because toons has enough aura for people to vote

if toons falls behind i will redirect my support

[unkempt pier]

chrome is the best smh

[plush hearth]

chrome took away his SAUCE

[unkempt pier]

chrome made him the chill guy

[vital hare]

Chrome exudes the most Hal energy, Toons looks like his mean cousin.

[unkempt pier]

also, we finally have a toons emoji

took us long enough

[plush hearth]

this is what lead to him becoming a nothing character with barely any story involvement sooo

[unkempt pier]

you're taking it too far

[vital hare]

Not really.

[unkempt pier]

🙄

[plush hearth]

there’s lowkey nothing to do with him since he became the “chill one who doesn’t interact with the flock much”

i don’t hate the premise but he’s been reduced to only that

[vital hare]

It was probably just the brand prioritising other characters in the cast.
Just wasn't really a place for many Hal stories when other characters need stories as well.

They both need to incorporate new characters into stories while also giving the main characters spotlight, so it's only natural someone's gonna fall off in relevancy... and it's not like he hasn't had relevancy in recent years since he had a focus comic not too long ago. even if they made him a little too mean spirited there imo but that's besides the point.

[obsidian shore]

classic is my favorite child idc what yall say

[plush hearth]

and it stands to reason that the character who’d get dropped out first is the one that doesn’t interact with anyone

also i have only seen happy birthday hal as a spotlight comic, is there another?

[unkempt pier]

nope :(

[vital hare]

That was the one I was referring to

[unkempt pier]

he had a co-feature in Mission Impossibubbles

[plush hearth]

he isn’t mean spirited in that he just wants alone time what </3

[unkempt pier]

he can mimic the wart hogs(?) it seems

I have a better question though

Friends/Reloaded Hal or AB2 Hal?

[plush hearth]

friends

[vital hare]

I feel like the Hal of the 2010s would have just talked with them about it once he got their attention instead of flinging them away.
Guess it probably wouldn't have made for as interesting or funny of a story, but it just doesn't feel like a Hal responce to me, more like something Red would do.

At the very least I love the design they use in these comics, they iterated on the Toons Hal design in a way that makes him look a lot friendlier.

[plush hearth]

he was just being a little sassy, keep in mind how many times everyone else bothered him and how he said he was fine but nobody listened to him
the slingshot thing was just him being a little cheeky

notice how red too is next to hal in the last panel, hal’s ok with company he just doesn’t want people cramming activity down his throat

[vital hare]

I'm not saying he's in the wrong, on the contrary, I would have lost it a lot sooner lol. I just think he finally got their actual attention and they might have actually listened if he did speak then. (well Matilda, Bomb, and Bubbles probably would have, I think Chuck and the Blues would still act the same because that's just who they are.)
Before that one moment they were all getting carried away with themselves, they finally listened to what he was saying in that moment so he had a chance to just tell them. I think if there was just one more page with him trying at that moment and then still not getting through to them it'd probably vibe way better to me.

Anyways, it's been nearly two years; I am begging whoever makes these comics for Rovio, give him another focus comic and my life is yours.

I think they should play up his nature loving angle a bit, have him visit Golden Island and get really excited over all the weird plants and wildlife he's never seen before. Or maybe have him come across a fossil in the desert sections of Piggy Island and have to try to stop the pigs or the other birds from accidentally damaging it.

[plush hearth]

he did try to get their attention though, that’s the thing
he tried multiple times and he got cut off, just because nobody listened doesnt mean he was too mean spirited about it, he had like a minor outburst and did something that wasn’t 100% positive
it barely tailors to the “angry” part of angry birds in itself, i honestly think he should’ve been slightly meaner, especially since he sent them off in a smiling jokey way, he clearly had no actual mean spirit

[vital hare]

He did until he actually managed to get it. That's the only thing I have issue with it, he actually managed to get their attention and then used that to cast them all away.

Again, just have a couple extra panels where he tries to explain one last time while they're all there and he has their actual attention, and then have it fail again and it'd feel more in line.

[plush hearth]

i really don’t think it changes much, he expressed that they did enough and he wants to do one more thing, he’s just messing with em a bit, i feel like just repeating the matilda segment again wouldnt add much
they already think it’s because hal didn’t do well with their activities, but it’s because of the activities themselves
he could explain that again, sure, but it is just a repetition of what we already got

it really wouldn’t add much personally

like “yeah, you’ve done all this stuff for me, but if you really want to do something great then follow my lead” isn’t really mean at all, it falls in line nicely
it kinda mirrors karma as a reactionary sense actually, instead of being a retaliation of ignorance it’s just directly what they want coming back to them

[vital hare]

Unrelated but I wonder how they got back lol, did they just use Bubbles as a raft or did they all just manage to swim all the way back there?

[plush hearth]

probably just swam, red isn’t there so nobody would protest it

in other news the poll is looking pretty nice

[vital hare]

I still think it should have at least had Kombo Hal and split ToonsGames from ToonsComic since they're fairly different designs, but I can't complain with the results tbh. Voted Chrome out of these since I like the vibe most.

[plush hearth]

tbf it says “main designs”
kombo hal has like 3 appearances and only 1 is remotely notable to him as a whole

[vital hare]

Fair I guess, but it's just a really standout design that looks neat.

[remote parcel]

Who the Hell thinks the AB2 design is better?!

#polls-📊 message

[vital hare]

At least 21 people seemingly

[ivory steppe]

Better than the Toons one at least,

[remote parcel]

[plush hearth]

Good. This is the way it should be

[unkempt pier]

chrome fans rise up 📈📈📈📈

[plush hearth]

I moreso meant they should be the top 3

[unkempt pier]

fair but chrome should still take #1

[plush hearth]

Chrome is practically the white bread of hal designs to me

Nothings wrong with him, he’s just plain

[ivory steppe]

And that’s sometimes best.

[plush hearth]

Not in this case clearly

[plush hearth]

why are 46 people wrong

[obsidian shore]

you know buck voted for the ab2 style

[plush hearth]

that doesn’t stop him from being wrong

[unkempt pier]

56 technically

[plush hearth]

nah, frieloaded is still better proportioned than AB2 hal

[onyx vortex]

at least he looks like he could be a boomerang

[unkempt pier]

AB2 having more than Toons is insane though

[plush hearth]

it is

ab2 hal doesn’t even open his beak for boomeranging

which is like
the whole reason he HAS a long beak fyi

so what’s the point in giving him a long beak if he won’t open it to fly back??

like come on…

let me tell you how much i’ve grown to HATE…

[plush hearth]

like AB2 hal is honestly just a “less bad” version of the protochrome design

[unkempt pier]

this is my new headcanon

[plush hearth]

he has caine in his beak…

[unkempt pier]

this is completely my doings lmao

can confirm this was added directly thanks to you!

[plush hearth]

yay!!

my hal opinions do matter

[unkempt pier]

❕

I was considering adding an AB2 Hal emoji yesterday but we're running out of place so is the only new 1 atm

[plush hearth]

I hate the way his eye bulges out of his skull, the way his beak enroaches on half of his body, his big ugly teeth, his trapezoid body shape, hate, hate, HATE.

[plush hearth]

good.
keep it that way.

besides, we have him!

he’s superior to ab2 hal in EVERY way

[vital hare]

This looks like a poll/survey of sorts? is this from an official Rovio one?

[vital hare]

TBH there should be one emoji for each design imo.

[unkempt pier]

fills in for Friends/Reloaded

[plush hearth]

it’s from the new years character survey

[vital hare]

Is that still active?

[plush hearth]

i think?

[vital hare]

found it, it is

gonna do it now!

[unkempt pier]

yeah but

the people i reached out for the intention of spreading it around never posted them anywhere

so its pointless

-# its unofficial btw

[vital hare]

ah

[unkempt pier]

it was just me trying to see what the community likes the most/dislikes the most

next year ill definitely plan better

[vital hare]

How many people voted?

[unkempt pier]

you CAN answer the #announcements-📢 message survey though!

[unkempt pier]

only roughly around 270

[vital hare]

I think I already did that one. There was a comics one I did not too long ago also.

[unkempt pier]

that 1 was for AB2

[vital hare]

I mean that's still a decent amount.

might not be as much as official surveys get but it's probably enough to have an estimate of which birds community interest most lies in.

Interested to know which birds actually ended up with the most votes. A lot of the usermade favourite character polls I've seen in the past are either quite old or mostly just focus on one specific area of the franchise.

[unkempt pier]

guess I could share the results

[remote parcel]

The people who chose the AB2 design as the best one are clearly delusional, no offense though

[remote parcel]

That's why I say Toons Hal is more aerodynamic

Also, why not give Hal his Toons design in AB2 when the rest of the characters have their Toons designs too?

[remote parcel]

My headcanon is.... interesting, let's say that...

[vital hare]

I'm guessing the proportions might have had issues with Ab2's engine, the usual Toons Hal is both really short and really long.
Either that or they just wanted to keep his inconsistent designs going, it's a bit of a tradition at this point.

Of course they could have used one of the design variants with a shorter beak though

Wait did the modern comics hal design exist before AB2 added him?
Would've been a good compromise if it did.

[remote parcel]

Or put him on profile for the card

Something like this

https://discordapp.com/channels/867657541336039424/1470465084483702967

[tawny plover]

#unknown goes crazy

[remote parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-silly-samuel-smiling-friends-what-are-you-saying-wdym-gif-2428695282591603169

[plush hearth]

They had him

They also had chrome hal in a hat set

[tawny plover]

Also appears in the AB transformers comic book

[tawny plover]

Can confirm as I own one

[remote parcel]

Do you have access to the fanart galery?

If you don't, I guess this is why it's like that for you

[unkempt pier]

it works

it just shows as #unknown

[remote parcel]

Just seach for "Hal" there

It's him playing with his banjo

[past igloo]

Angry birds 2 movie is funny and very good, Yeah I didn't like it first launch But I love it know

[celest charm]

Hot take: I like the daft piggies boss theme and it should be available on Spotify

[rain anvil]

Hot Take: AB Rio is the best crossover game

[shrewd heath]

Hot take: the reloaded space boss themes are just as good, if not better than the og’s

[tawny plover]

Literal truth nuke

[remote parcel]

Hot take: Angry Birds Reloaded would have been better without the movie stuff shuved into it.

[plush hearth]

Cold as ice…

[tawny plover]

Heavily disagree with this. HEAVILY. Just because you think the movies suck doesn't mean you have to taint media that adapts it. And honestly. Reloaded does a MUCH better job of telling the story than how it happened in the movies.

[karmic harness]

I'd say it does Movie 2 better, and Movie 1 a tad bit worse

[rain anvil]

Mighty League and Mighty League Test Levels are better than Jurassic Pork and Hammier Things levels

[sturdy estuary]

I genuinely think that foreman pig looks best in Angry Birds epic, it’s the perfect mix of the classic design and the toons design. I’m pretty sure no one truly disagrees and this design is just slept on for some reason. Also Foreman Pig should have his hard hat more often

[remote parcel]

The movies don't suck though

[hardy spoke]

Hot Take: The Classic Games shouldn’t be brought back

[onyx vortex]

agreed

[karmic harness]

Insert the biggest cold take a man has ever seen

[hardy spoke]

Am I wrong?

[karmic harness]

Absolutely not, my friend

Cold take = facts

[hardy spoke]

Idk why ppl think they should be brought back considering it would literally be a hassle to Rovio to update the classic games every so often

[karmic harness]

True

It also doesn't work that if you're going to bring them back

The copyrighted titles can't have abysmally small changes

[hardy spoke]

Angry Birds Star Wars cough cough

The only one I would want brought back is probably Epic

[magic trench]

I really don’t think that’s a cold take lmao

A lot of people want the classic games back

[onyx vortex]

I'd say it's inbetween

[karmic harness]

Even if people want to, Rovio can't really bring them back

Not as their own game at least (AKA Reloaded)

[hardy spoke]

yeah, but it would STILL be a hassle to Rovio to update all of the Classic Games consistently, and they would have to change the title of a few games to avoid being copyright striked

[onyx vortex]

don't think licensed games don't get rereleased often or at all

they can't just change the title and remove coprighted stuff, let's be real, they're not touching licensed games except for some mechanics that would work in a non-licensed ab game

[ember oar]

coming back to say these do look way better

i personally cant read this tone so im gonna leave it at that

[plush hearth]

personally i think without the additional colours;
reloaded’s eye looks too small and the gap between classic’s eye and beak is jarring

toons concept still holds up

[ember oar]

i think they look fine since im not hyperfixated on ab and havent played every single game

so they look like a normal hal version to me

[snow notch]

ab epic is not very hard

[tawny plover]

Comet silvers design ain't even that bad. She just needs a slight change in color

[unkempt pier]

She looks like a random costume you could find in the carnival

Undercooked

[plush hearth]

not too different from 2 of the other newer space designs, could do with or without it

cold take but i highkey prefer the one with a star mask

[snow notch]

ok this looks so much better

[unkempt pier]

at least these look very different from their original counterparts...

silver just put on a helmet and called it a day

[dark topaz]

The golden age is 2009-2016

[snow notch]

cold takes this way sir 👉https://discord.com/channels/867657541336039424/1485100416495784017

[rain anvil]

Does anyone really disagree with this?

tbh 2016 wasn't as good as other years, there was a decline

[dark topaz]

Yeah there is people who disagree lol

[onyx vortex]

I'd say 2013 is the last good year

[silk latch]

I think things were going well until after the first movie dropped, then it was downhill

[rain anvil]

I'd say 2014 was the last one, something started declining in 2015 and even more in 2016 but after that it went down

[unkempt pier]

this is the hot takes forum, #1485100416495784017 is right there

[nova plank]

I was replying to @rain anvil

Ill js do it again

[nova plank]

2012 - 2014 was peak

Also I think Zeta should be brown because she is based off a philippine eagle and of course they had to make her purple cuz purple is an evil color and a "cool" color that fits with her living in frozen terrain

[nova plank]

maybe brown is also just unapealing too

even though dahlia is tan brown and is recognizable

[rain anvil]

I think they just wanted to make Zeta stand out from other Eagles as well

[nova plank]

yeah

[rain anvil]

because Eagle Guards are white, gray, brown, yk pretty much grayscale only

but Zeta is a lively purple so she stands out a bit and you already know who's the boss here

[nova plank]

if only they were mostly gray and white except for brown and only applying that to zeta with a very copper tone

imo 😔

[nova plank]

or just a bright brown that stands out ig

[rain anvil]

Purple is pretty interesting take tho, I like it more than I would like brown probably

[rain anvil]

It doesn't apply that much to Reloaded Eagles tho because those come in different colors

Lavender, red, orange and blue

[ember oar]

glaive x ab2 collab 😭 😭 😭

[subtle zenith]

Ice bird being made obsolete by the blizzard doesn't mean they can't add him to AB2, just buff his ability (giving him a large comet with a gravity field like Space levels could be a cool throwback)

[keen monolith]

@serene hollow fisher should be in charge of merch control for angry birds atp

[light veldt]

They shouldn't because they would ruin him
proof: I said so

[echo mountain]

WAIT HOLD ON

Lazer Bird + Ice Bird

[snow notch]

his ability would still kinda be dependent on the blues

but I suppose thats why this is the hot takes channel

[echo mountain]

Wdym?

[snow notch]

wouldnt he still crash into an object and would make some parts into ice

[echo mountain]

Yeah?…

[snow notch]

and those blocks wouldn’t move

like in the original

and the blues are the only bird that can slice through glass/ ice blocks

thats why its dependent on them

[echo mountain]

The physics in AB2 suck and need to be overhauled so it’d be a good time to do so

Also that’s their fault for making the ability

If they just changed Silver and Gale’s abilities and made Ice lighter or more fragile it wouldn’t be a big deal

And or make IB’s ability crack rhem

Just anything honestly

[snow notch]

I do want my beloved ice bird in the game

but I also don’t want hom to be useless

I have an idea

LETS GET RID OF LEONARD :D

AND RESKIN HIS ABILITY WITH ICE :D

and then give that to ice bird :D

aw why not?

he shoots 3 ice spheres and then does his original ability with crazy knockback

seems perfectly tame for ab2 standards

[tawny plover]

It's a good idea don't get me wrong. But replacing a character entirely is utter stupidity in my opinion

[echo mountain]

Knockback is actually good hold up

[snow notch]

I just want to remove leonard ngl

[echo mountain]

Don’t call him that 😭

[sturdy estuary]

Ross should be renamed to Freckles, I find it better fitting thematically for the pigs to not have real names (one of the many things the Movie ruined for the franchise)

[tawny plover]

Just because you hate the movies DOESN'T mean that anything from them shouldn't exist.

[snow notch]

fair

“I just want to remove mudbeard ngl”

[snow notch]

no no I dont hate the first movie

[tawny plover]

TECHNICALLY.. Theyre different characters but at the same time theyre the same.

Plus. In the classic universe, Leonard hasn't done anything harmful to the birds IIRC. So if the reason you think he shouldn't be in the flock is because he's a war criminal. That's only reloaded and movie Leonard

[plush hearth]

didnt leonard die in the mine that red’s parents died in?
since he was like
chasing to kill them or whatnot
that’d be what made sense to me since he’s presumed to be dead in classic anyway (king title was an inheritance and inheritance = something left to your loved ones when you die)

[snow notch]

I hate the concept that there is a pig who is supposed to be the previous ruler and is committing mass genocide on his own species

and is killing his son every other tuesday

[onyx vortex]

he's a non-canon part of ab2

[snow notch]

its called angry birds not angry pigs😭

[plush hearth]

and removing him would make it less non-canon i’m failing to see why that’d hinder anything aside from the artists having to retexture him and give new sounds

[snow notch]

he’s still a pig whose killing his own kind tho

[tawny plover]

I mean. It shows that not all pigs agree with what smoothcheeks and co do.

[tawny plover]

He's technically not. Pigs in levels get popped. Not killed.

[sturdy estuary]

Wow, this is somehow more controversial than I thought. Obviously Mudbeard should be removed from the flock in AB2, saying he’s a “non-canon part of AB2” is honestly a dumb argument, because if one part of a game isn’t canon then you have to question EVERY LITTLE DETAIL within that game, if you’re gonna make a game that’s an extension of a pre-existing franchise you should either make it 100% or 0% canon, otherwise that’s just poor storytelling. I love Mudbeard to death, but he has no business being physically in anything other than ABM1, that’s the only time he’s done justice.

[snow notch]

they still feel the pain of dying tho

[open timber]

AB2 is semi-canon to the Classic universe

[sturdy estuary]

That’s why it’s wrong

[subtle zenith]

Tbf, assuming toons is canon to classic lore (idk much about ab lore), the only real merit a pig has to power is the crown, and a dying king would probably pass the crown on to his son. It's possible thag leonard lived but never got to give the crown to king pig, so king pig just got his own

[sturdy estuary]

The heavier a pig is the more important he is, unless they threaten to be heavier than the king, then they’re executed

That’s how power works in the piggy kingdom, sources include:
World of Angry Birds Official Guide 2013
Bad Piggies Book of Wisdom
The Royal Weigh In

[snow notch]

tf does semi canon mean😭

[unkempt pier]

Canon when they feel like it ig

[warm coral]

Angry birds 2 is a goated game

[warm coral]

And another hot take angry birds reloaded is better then mario kart tour because of new content every month it has more levels then mkt with tracks

[open timber]

Some parts of it is canon, and some aren't

[karmic harness]

The Fembeye made a STATEMENT

So WRONG and AWFUL

That I'm going to yeet you into the STRATOSPHERE for making it

[plush hearth]

Lightning blues ✅
Lazer chuck ✅
… ice. ❌
Cosmic/ Atomic Bubbles ✅
Iron Matilda ❌
Scarlet Stella ❌

[ivory steppe]

I can understand the disagreement on Ice Bird to Ice and Scarlet Wing to Scarlet Stella. But why not Iron Bird to Iron Matilda?

[plush hearth]

I don’t call Iron Man Iron Tony

Transitive property to IronBird’s name

[brittle storm]

I hate Ross

[snow notch]

what could he have possible done to you😭 🙏

[brittle storm]

He laugh at me in bad Piggies

[snow notch]

then you must just hate every single pig in general

cuz they all do that

(and chuck)

[warm coral]

Bombs the goated bird

[brittle storm]

Chuck ?

[karmic harness]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-girl-turning-roblox-roblox-girl-woman-face-roblox-woman-face-gif-27543985

[snow notch]

is that really a hot take?

[warm coral]

Well do you knows whos the goated bird in ab reloaded?

[snow notch]

in every classic ab game bomb is pretty goated

and ofc theres terence

I suppose reloaded also counts as a slingshot-game so it should also apply

(also reloaded was built off of the ab friends engine so yeah he is goated in there)

[warm coral]

Oh I didn't know that

[karmic harness]

But unlike Friends

This game is actually good

[snow notch]

is that a hot take? friends is kinda mid rn

[rain anvil]

tbh telling average AB fan Reloaded is good game ends up with 2 of these scenarios:

1. They don't know or don't care about the game (Apple Arcade exclusivity argument comes here)
2. They will dislike your post, vomit/clown react it and call you a fanboy or smth like that

genuinely the only people I've seen saying they like Reloaded is on this discord and some comments on YouTube

literally nowhere else

[snow notch]

better than friends is kind of a low bar

[rain anvil]

True

I'd say Reloaded is better than Classics but that is already quite a hot take

[snow notch]

for me that depends on which version, like in the case version ab classic / seasons were in before being delisted then yeah, I can see why someone would say that

as for space I would disagree

[rain anvil]

Space is definitely way better in Reloaded imo

brand new episodes, slight reworks in the story and better visuals

within bonus levels with Space Egg and Space Eagle coming continuously

Classic was done dirty in Reloaded I must agree

[karmic harness]

Never seen the Angry Birds Reddit

[snow notch]

yeah I suppose there's that

[rain anvil]

I got called out "reloaded fanboy" when I literally stated a fact Reloaded isn't p2w game because it doesn't have any microtransactions

Sounds like a nice part of fandom innit'?

[snow notch]

yeah its pay 2 play

[karmic harness]

I was talking about Reloaded