📌gimshim-help

[strange scarab]

[pearl girder]

I could have sworn there we're more er craftable swords so i insisted

[strange scarab]

[haughty lotus]

amenoma

[strange scarab]

Ba

[pearl girder]

Stress about it

[jolly junco]

there is a fishable ER sword (ferryman) but not another craftable ER sword. Amenoma gives flat energy restoration, not energy recharge%

[pearl girder]

Got it

[jolly junco]

if you want to use the favonius on xingqiu because your sac sword is low refinement (aka bad) you can also just use sac on traveler

unlike xingqiu, traveler has pretty meh personal damage so you can really just stack ER on them and not care much about offensive stats

[buoyant acorn]

hm?

[haughty lotus]

be less obvious next time

[jolly junco]

he's right

[pearl girder]

Yeah I dont need dmg on my dmc, just dendro application that's why i asked for the weapon for ult uptime

[jolly junco]

even I know

[haughty lotus]

[buoyant acorn]

[pearl girder]

Do i need to do the whole fog questline for golden wolflord?

[opal surge]

I think you can just walk there

[pearl girder]

🤞🏻

[stark solstice]

guys i need help...im using prototype cresent r2 for ganyu cuz im a broke boi and dont have amos bow.....what artifact set do i need for glass cannon teir cryo dmg for my ganyu with her prototype cresnet? i currently have 4p blizz strayer

[jolly junco]

blizzard strayer for either freeze or monocryo teams, wanderers troupe or shimenawa for melt

[fathom vapor]

are kazuhas talents worth it to level up (i'm pretty sure it's basically useless)

[gloomy bay]

does quests count in exploration %

[honest heart]

a

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/378139267093889026/1059106379513733180/759682484354023445.gif

[strange scarab]

1/1/1

[strange scarab]

they dont

unless it forces you to pick up chests etc

[honest heart]

:/

its fully worth

[fathom vapor]

real

[honest heart]

after all ultimate buffs :/

[strange scarab]

?

[gloomy bay]

nah dont crown kazuha

[fathom vapor]

oh hell nah not spending those crowns on him

[honest heart]

dont crown true(unless u fan him)

[strange scarab]

yknow the amount of buff he gives doesnt rely on talent level right?

[honest heart]

i want to crown him tho

[honest heart]

but damage does

[strange scarab]

so? you're going to build him full EM anyways

[honest heart]

ohh yea btw i do dps and em kazuha

[gloomy bay]

just c6 kazuha

[honest heart]

facts

[fathom vapor]

id rather spend my crowns then

[strange scarab]

his talent scalings are atk and you build him with em

[fathom vapor]

ding ding ding

[honest heart]

well even so u do get enough atk to do damage

[strange scarab]

eh dont see the point in spending resin for such minimal increase

the damage comes from swirl anyways

[honest heart]

tbh idk how but u are exat opposite of me

[strange scarab]

you saying this just because the hu tao thing?

[spiral mantle]

i need better artifacts for her 😭

[honest heart]

no liek what ever u say is opposite of me

[strange scarab]

[latent karma]

where and how

[honest heart]

true that goblet and circlet suck holy

[spiral mantle]

ik 😭

AND the sands is em

[strange scarab]

try using kazuha without swirling any element see how long does it take compared to when he swirls

[gloomy bay]

does 1 time investigate point count in exploration % like those with mora or artifacts

[honest heart]

idk how but my goblet also has exat same RV

[spiral mantle]

wtf

[strange scarab]

nah and its not 1 time it refreshes daily

[spiral mantle]

tbh what should i need to improve for my yoi

first time she has not come home ever since her 2.0 banner....

[strange scarab]

c6

[spiral mantle]

tbh i mightve gotten c4 if navia never existed

[honest heart]

nothing

shes quite good

[spiral mantle]

do i just pull for tp

[strange scarab]

navia better tho

[spiral mantle]

ik

[strange scarab]

[spiral mantle]

i love taylor swift smh

[honest heart]

always

[strange scarab]

also hu tao building is easy

[honest heart]

https://tenor.com/view/jezus-you-to-send-i-will-steven-he-gif-24522534

[spiral mantle]

speaking of hu tao... what do i need to improve

[honest heart]

the gray artifacts

[spiral mantle]

just that?

[strange scarab]

90/90

[honest heart]

and this

[strange scarab]

weapon and character

[latent karma]

where are yall getting this overall status

[strange scarab]

skill level

[spiral mantle]

akasha

[spiral mantle]

alr

[latent karma]

how do I make it show data :’)

[swift crown]

allow others to view your character builds on your profile ingame

[honest heart]

the message above

[latent karma]

ok

[stark solstice]

would benne c6 and ganyu work for melt comps?

[olive isle]

[kindred patrol]

What app software you use to minimize mat location while play?

To put it in small window

[strange scarab]

hoyolab's interactive map have windowed mode

[strange scarab]

how significant is the damage differences between echoes and hod for ayato?

[jolly junco]

yes, bennett's c6 does not override ganyu because she uses a bow

[honest heart]

thats possible?

like when u play u ahve the map on the same screen

game in full screen and with map?

[stark solstice]

is xialg ling a decent pyro support for ganyu?

[jolly junco]

Yeah

she has good off-field pyro application so you can melt ganyu's charged shots

[stark solstice]

melt would be applying the fire first, then ganyu charged shot right? and also, for 4p blizz , you said mono ice team, does that mean literally all cryo units? cuz i dont have 3 other cryo units build.....ik my mono geo team itto, albedo, zhongli, garou,

[jolly junco]

to the first question, yes.
for mono cryo ganyu, what I meant was a team of 3 cryo units + anemo (so just focusing on cryo damage). ganyu, kazuha, shenhe, layla for example

[old swallow]

Dumb question but calamity queller is better than vortex on shenhe right?

[jolly junco]

Yeah it is

[old swallow]

Its because of the passive right? even tho vortex has a much higher attack percentage from the main stats

[stark solstice]

so i should put 2 shemi and 2 wander troupe on ganyu for melt? like for a team of ganyu, xiagling, venti, .....and would ( you know the liyue geo character who boosts attack speed?)

[jolly junco]

keep in mind that calamity queller has much higher base attack, meaning your atk% will provide more attack in terms of your overall attack

[old swallow]

whats calamities base attack at max rank?

[jolly junco]

741 at level 90

[old swallow]

ok yeah giga difference

thanks for the help

[stark solstice]

and i assume the stats i would be focusing on for melt ganyu is more em on each piece and maybe er?

[jolly junco]

No, 4pc wanderer's troupe or 4pc shimenawa.
typical team would be ganyu, bennett, xiangling, (resistance to interruption) e.g zhongli/layla
you are thinking of yun jin I believe but she does not increase charged attack ATKspeed or buff charged attack damage

[jolly junco]

you can check the build guide pinned here. main-stats should be EM(can also use ATK but typically worse)/cryo/crit. crit stats, EM and atk% are good substats

[stark solstice]

ah ok...im trying to have each team use diff chars so i can do those challenges that require diff ppl on each set...any other pyro units like benet?

[jolly junco]

Not really

the bouken is unmatched in what he does

[stark solstice]

mmm ok.....

so like..i have a raiden hyper carry team

it uses raiden, sara, benne, and kazuha......anyone who can replace benne?

[jolly junco]

if you send a picture of your characters I can suggest a different team, use hoyolab because it also includes constellations

[stark solstice]

ok

[jolly junco]

hoyolab -> battle chronicle -> all characters then take and send a SS

[stark solstice]

ahh

can i paste here?

[jolly junco]

Yes

[stark solstice]

https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/index.html?bbs_auth_required=true&bbs_presentation_style=fullscreen&gid=2&utm_id=2&utm_medium=link&utm_source=share&v=330&lang=en-us&bbs_theme=dark&bbs_theme_device=1&utm_campaign=web#/ys/role/all?role_id=611073739&server=os_usa

[jolly junco]

the link doesn't work, try taking a screenshot then sending that

[jolly junco]

You could run a strong raiden aggravate team considering your cons/weapons but it wouldn't include a defensive option unless you use a different shielder than zhongli for ganyu

[strange scarab]

you can but that shit sucks i dont like using it

besides i play on ps4

[jolly junco]

Raiden, Sara/Fischl, Nahida, Kazuha

[stark solstice]

ahh ok

[jolly junco]

C2 R1 Raiden and C2 Nahida, you should kill enemies quickly so they have less opportunities to hit you

[stark solstice]

thx for letting the dawg know!! ily @jolly junco

[serene dragon]

who should be added to the law team?

[stark solstice]

def Neuvillette

[serene dragon]

hes there, who should the last character be though?

[stark solstice]

heizhou

he a detective

but yanfei a law bookworm

[serene dragon]

yes, the characters in the pic are the ones already chosen for the team

i just cant figure the fourth character

[jolly junco]

I feel like this is more of a question for #📚lore-dungeon

[serene dragon]

ohhh

[jolly junco]

Maybe Wriothesley

[stark solstice]

oh my dum self was thinking about those 3

[serene dragon]

wriothesley it is then

[stark solstice]

navia is a bhaddie tho

add her to the list please

[keen willow]

Zhongli literally says i will have order

[jolly junco]

He is the god of contracts so he does have some relation to law too

[keen willow]

Order order

[jolly junco]

There's also chevreuse

[serene dragon]

i have the characters noted down and ill mull it over for a bit

[jolly junco]

Xiao maintains law and order in a way too

[keen willow]

Qiqi gives orders to herself

[opal surge]

If yanfei is there kuki should be there too probably

[gray oxide]

Lore discussion

Givin me goosebumps

[keen willow]

Itto is planning on going to college too

[gray oxide]

Welp anw

[jolly junco]

surely

[gray oxide]

@jolly junco wazzup Lemont

[jolly junco]

not a great deal got my dissertation hand-in, in two months

how about you?

[gray oxide]

Been doing decently

Im sorting my shits out at an ok pace

[jolly junco]

Noice

[gray oxide]

Math grades have been going up

It jumped from consistent C to consistent A

[jolly junco]

that's good. I'm guessing you've not been playing genshin atm (at least, I haven't seen you around here much)

[copper mist]

Being around here >>> playing genshit

[gray oxide]

I quitted around the Navia livestream

[jolly junco]

I actually just hit the word count I need yesterday, 50,000 words with 10% either way

[copper mist]

Quit

[jolly junco]

Ah

[copper mist]

He is way more powerful

Than any of us

[gray oxide]

Im playing roguelites lately

Theyre good

[jolly junco]

I had to look it up because I've never heard of them before

[gray oxide]

And i dont rlly feel incentivized to play every day unlike genshin and its fomo inducing systems

[jolly junco]

gacha games do include resin-type things and welkin-type things to incentivise that, yeah

[gray oxide]

Its as simple as "dungeon crawler but you lose all progress upon death"

[jolly junco]

ez just don't die

[gray oxide]

Ok idk why i used double o in "lose"

[jolly junco]

that would be loose, aka sometime tied a loose knot

[gray oxide]

Yea ik

Im consciously aware of it

[jolly junco]

[gray oxide]

Just that i use double o subconsciously

[copper mist]

Genshin is just Xianyun waiting room for me

Surely I will be satisfied

[gray oxide]

Its like how i used to go "writting"

[copper mist]

When she releases

[gray oxide]

My teacher made me copy the word writing 50 times

[copper mist]

And won't need even more characters

[gray oxide]

Never made the same mistake again

Also i discovered this rlly fun game

Its called Mathematics

[jolly junco]

I find math boring

luckily for genshin you barely need to know any

[copper mist]

I hate math

I was terrible at it

[median glade]

[gray oxide]

I think grade 6 mathematics is the most u need to know for any tc

Exept for the dank bs called Itto combo optimization

[jolly junco]

I dunno what's considered grade 6 math even

[gray oxide]

Need to get a bachelors in math to do that

[jolly junco]

but I understand what's needed to know for genshin

[median glade]

none

[gray oxide]

Multiplication and division is the hardest thing needed for most tcs

[jolly junco]

[gray oxide]

Its more abt speed tbh

The thing isnt hard

But for sth like teamcrafting you do alot of calc

[jolly junco]

TCing in genshin just got a whole lot easier and less tedious

[gray oxide]

Plus testing

But its still chill

[jolly junco]

they finally implemented the substat solver in the genshin optimizer

now weapon/constellation calcs are very quick and low effort

[olive isle]

then we wait for someone to add ai to replace theorycrafters 🤷

[gray oxide]

The hardest thing abt constellation calcs is that sometimes you need to test it out to address it correctly

[median glade]

what that

[gray oxide]

Which

[olive isle]

theorycrafting

[jolly junco]

tc just means theorycrafting

[gray oxide]

Imagine its a 5 star c6

[median glade]

oo

[olive isle]

trial and error, then observe

[gray oxide]

Yea aint no way ur broke ass gonna get that

Weap calc is quite easy

[jolly junco]

some things need testing yeah

sometimes it's just basic stat increases though, which doesn't

[gray oxide]

If const calc is a straight number increase then its also easy to calc

Most of the consts that are tricky are ones that manipulate the charas playstyle in some way

Xiao and his c6

hardest part abt that c6 is that you cant rlly address it in general

But its cool finding out that his dps doubles at the most ideal and unrealistic scenario

[sick quarry]

If I just use the basic team of traveller, amber, lisa and kaeya could I beat the game

[opal surge]

What does "beat the game" mean?

[olive isle]

nothing's impossible, i watched a certain genshin CC who went traveler only for over 30 episodes and managed to beat almost all game content

in spiral abyss, that's nigh impossible

[jolly junco]

story and exploration should be possible, you're probably not getting 36* in abyss with that though

[winter sierra]

Any suggestions for my hu tao build?

[olive isle]

to make it easier, you can lessen your restriction to f2p only (so you get really great units)

[olive isle]

more crit, more em needed. get better goblet, sands, and feather too

[jolly junco]

what polearms do you have?

[winter sierra]

alright thank you

[olive isle]

also please level normal atk to 9 or crown it

[winter sierra]

im currently upgrading my dragon's bane, so i didnt use it yet (its level 60)

[jolly junco]

Ah okay

[winter sierra]

thank you

[jolly junco]

level normal attack to 9 and use a better set bonus with more crit rate

[tawny vigil]

yo where is this ultimate trial

[sterile zodiac]

hello guys. im not sure if this is the right place to ask but, any of you experiencing ping issues?

[stark solstice]

yae miko, or c3 raiden?

[tawny vigil]

c3 raiden not worth

[olive isle]

maybe keep progressing???

[tawny vigil]

i did all of them once already tho

[olive isle]

check net, stuff, etc.

[olive isle]

for you, who you'd like? i'll help you narrow down your choices

[tawny vigil]

alr i think its cuz i did the easiest one for all of them

[sterile zodiac]

this. you need to fight guoba onikabuto. the three star difficulty one

[tawny vigil]

oh thanks

[sterile zodiac]

sure, thanks

[tawny vigil]

oh 2 star is enough

for liben box can I claim if i join other peopls world?

[jolly junco]

ye

[tawny vigil]

K THANKS

[olive isle]

you only still claim one per day however. going to a diff world will only change what you'll receive

[stark solstice]

i like raiden cuz 1> she a 10/10 bhaddie, 2. i have her signature weapon and decent arts for her already 3. ik how she works.....now i like yae miko because . also 10/10 bhaddie, maybe a decent electro supp/besides kuki/beidou/fichl?? but i scared cuz my catalyst game weak and idk if i have goood arts for her

[tawny vigil]

c3 just gives her extra talent level, but yae gives you a new character to play with

[olive isle]

plan ahead for the future, do you see yourself using c3 raiden for the rest of the abyss phases until you quit the game? or do you see yourself having both c0 yae and raiden? they also have cute ship fanarts (idk if that can help you choose but it's a heads up if you're looking for their charm)

raiden at c3 will have her dmg significantly increased

[stark solstice]

is yae good in aggravate?

[tawny vigil]

ya

[olive isle]

big yes, she can do hyperbloom too as a flex unit

[stark solstice]

ok, so assuming i get yae....i can have team1. nahida c2, yae, fshl c4?, and venti.. team 2 . raiden c2, kujo c6, benne c6, kazuha, team 3...Ganyu, xiang ling c6, venti, and maybe xinqui c6/ chevruse c1,/yanfei(idk her cons ) , team 4 iito, zhongli, c4 garou, and albedo

are these good?

are they gucci?

or i can scrap team 1

and make team 2 more op with raiden c3

[olive isle]

1. great if you can dodge well
2. that's already a peak non-whale raiden hypercarry
3. i'd swap kazuha over venti, also please use bennett if you're planning ganyu melt
4. that's already a nice mono geo team

[stark solstice]

well i want to make it to where all the teams are using diff characters

[olive isle]

it's not like you're using 16 characters simultaneously

[stark solstice]

but i want to bro

....

[olive isle]

yea but there's literally no content that forces you to use 16 unique characters

[stark solstice]

blessed

does yae miko help raiden do more dmg at all?

[olive isle]

you can swap them out anytime and also ensure any of your team gets the best team/personal dps in a team

[olive isle]

no. downgrade to your c6 sara

but you can still use them in a team if you really like

[jolly junco]

of all the decent melt ganyu team variants, the character that is never replaced in any of them is bennett

[olive isle]

you can also do mono electro which has sara, raiden, yae, anemo (jean)

[jolly junco]

obviously ganyu must necessarily be on the team too

[stark solstice]

is chevruse replace bennet

[jolly junco]

you could technically make some burnmelt variants with nahida function without bennett but the damage would be significantly less

[olive isle]

she is good in electro/pyro only teams

even so, her utility cannot give what bennett does, which is over 1k atk

[stark solstice]

ok....lets see about another team i sorta made......xiao, xinqui 6, diona c4 i, and mona c2

[olive isle]

that is a non-functional team

[stark solstice]

[olive isle]

but seriously why do u wanna have 4 teams with 4 unique units

[sick quarry]

woah

[stark solstice]

so i will never have to pull again unless its a constellation for existing members in the team or a weapon upgrade like amos bow

[olive isle]

you pull for who you like

most preferably one that gives a lot of value and/or you see yourself using that unit for the longest time

[stark solstice]

i have been using raiden since day 1\

as well as kazuha

[sick quarry]

I.. I might.

[olive isle]

unfortunately, that person already passed through by "abusing the bugs/breaking the game". most of its bugs used in the videos are already fixed to this date

[stark solstice]

i dont really use fichl tbh, nor venti, nnor xiang ling, nor yanfwi

[sick quarry]

oh

[stark solstice]

i think i need to work on my kazuha a lot..bro only has like 500 em

but he is c0....is that bad?

[swift crown]

kinda

[opal surge]

Being c0 is completely fine, no constellations are needed in genshin

500 EM is pretty low though. Even if you just grab 3x EM mainstats and an EM weapon you should already be at 700

[hollow folio]

What does nahida do in an alhaitjsm spread Team?

[opal surge]

damage deepwood em share

the thing she also does in all her other teams

[stark solstice]

soo all my arts should be em arts for my support kazuha?

and i should aim for 700 em?

[opal surge]

all you need is EM and ER

You shouldnt aim for 700 EM, thats the bare minimum you should have probably

Kazuha ascends into EM = 115 EM, 3x Mainstat EM = 187x3 and Iron Sting = 165 EM, this leaves kazuha at a bare minimum of 841 EM

Not counting substats from flower and feather

If you run ER weapon because you cant meet ER requirement otherwise 700 EM should still be the minimum

[stark solstice]

ok

thx g

[strange scarab]

say, neuv and tighnari can trigger beidou's burst right?

[strange scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/gatobanana-gif-7399266138932557075

[median glade]

Taser mid

[strange scarab]

burger

this guy asked me if neuv nahida raiden beidou is good or not

[strange scarab]

hes not that great as a bloom driver isnt he

[median glade]

if your neuv is mid
then ur hyperbloom team better

if neuv is invested
then ur hypercarry team better

[strange scarab]

what if hypothetically c1

[median glade]

then double hydro better

furina neuv

[small blade]

They can. But Tighnari doesnt use a lot of CA, so there will be a low amount of beidou procs

[olive isle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872399985394712597/1174928083137085440/drinkxin.gif?ex=6569600c&is=6556eb0c&hm=b4d3c63be1725677d43377e4e3596f5cc5fe9c440f0c6029f57f4597fcd1f138&

[strange scarab]

is xingqiu's IR enough for hu tao to run bennett instead of shielder comfortably

[jolly junco]

yes

[strange scarab]

so hu tao xingqiu yelan bennett could work or shield is still preferred?

[jolly junco]

tao also gains IR after using her E, which paired with XQ is enough to stop most attacks from staggering you

[median glade]

I don't remember ever being staggered with xq

[jolly junco]

it could work, or vv vape instead but either work

[shell dawn]

is pulling on the raiden banner worth it or is it better to pull on the next banner that has nahida and the new character? I dont have raiden either

[median glade]

I vote nahida

[neon harness]

who do you like more

raiden is a very good dps, main runs in raiden national and raiden hypercarry when sara is c6, but nahida is used in most dendro teams, but also its ur acc, pull who you want to play

[shell dawn]

well, which is better, raiden or nahida?

[opal surge]

Theyre different roles

[neon harness]

depends on situation

[median glade]

are 2 votes per person allowed?
I vote nahida (2)

[jolly junco]

I think nahida is better but the game also isn't difficult enough to merit pulling specific 5* characters

[shell dawn]

I also use furina in my team

which would pair well?

[jolly junco]

depends on what other characters you have

furina + nahida teams do exist but they're not that common

one of nahida's strengths is unrivaled AoE dendro application, and hyperbloom/burgeon/bloom damage does not benefit from furina's DMG% buff. furina also has less hydro application than some other characters, when the amount of bloom cores you can generate depends on your hydro and dendro application

[strange scarab]

@shell dawn

[shell dawn]

what about raiden?

[jolly junco]

some raiden + furina teams are good, though the addition of furina isn't really an upgrade over other raiden teams

in fact from some speedclearing perspectives I've looked at, they actually rate the raiden + furina teams as just worse in practice despite the sheet dps being competitive

partially due to things like setup times and lacking as much frontload

https://youtu.be/XyCcl5tCzSA?t=207

[shell dawn]

damn thats rough

well it wouldnt matter much, both characters would help out alot right?

[olive isle]

furina doesn't let raiden's name echo in song 😔

[median glade]

jamie

[shell dawn]

yeah😭

[jolly junco]

hard to say

they're both good characters

[strange scarab]

xianyun:

[shell dawn]

well would it worth be pulling for bennet? Didnt get him yet

[jolly junco]

it's worth picking him up from the shop when you get enough starglitter

you can't guarantee a specific 4* from the character banner

he's not in the shop until may tho so hf

[stark solstice]

how many different teams do f2p or dolphins usually have? currently im attempting to have 16 diff chars to build 4 diff individual teams,, but the success of that is looking slim since i dont have a lot of money excpet around 100$

[jolly junco]

really depends on how long someone has been playing, and then some people choose to pull less characters than others to focus on fewer teams

I have lots of teams but there's no content in the game that makes one need 4 individual teams

2 for abyss

[stark solstice]

should i buld fichl for my aggravtae comp? or beidhou?

[jolly junco]

fischl

[median glade]

fishcl

[stark solstice]

bros my apologies

[untold pecan]

fish

[strange scarab]

[olive isle]

feesh

[amber veldt]

This should be good enough right?

[jolly junco]

what team is this for?

[amber veldt]

I use her kind of all over the place just for hydro/healing

[median glade]

name 2

[jolly junco]

currently your build doesn't fit any particular team that well

[olive isle]

kokomi taser

[jolly junco]

if used in something like an ayaka/ganyu freeze team, the weapon should be TTDS. for kokomi taser, it's not a good build

[amber veldt]

I use her in freeze with Wrio and Ganyu a lot

[noble vale]

Yh I can leave it like that bc I ran out of the hero swifts and AE’s. For talents I’ll work on her skill and burst to lvl 8

[median glade]

ye then ttds it is

[stark solstice]

oh lawed im bout to buuyuuuyuz

[amber veldt]

Is she gonna have enough energy to burst all the time without amber?

[jolly junco]

Not with your current artifacts

[amber veldt]

I guess I use Furina in both of those more often now anyways now that I think about it

Koko getting more use when I do coop bosses because randoms be dying

She good enough at least?

[median glade]

ye good
but em rolls
do u ever use her in vape

[stark solstice]

guys should i build a lot of em on fischl if im using her in an aggravate comp?

[olive isle]

atk over em

unlike non-dendro comps, em also becomes useful

[amber veldt]

Mostly Freeze with Wrio and with Navia

[stark solstice]

so build em on nahida and no fichl

[median glade]

so much wasted em

[stark solstice]

ok, thx g

[noble vale]

I need need to 80 xiangling but I still don’t have enough resources but good thing Xingqiu and Benny are 80 and 90 🔥

Still needs good artifacts fr 😭

Character build life

[olive isle]

farm guarantees >>> rng artifacts

[stark solstice]

sorry ive been bombing yall with questions, fr it helped me have a better view on game, and has made it less stress since i now am focusing on just 3 teams and not 4....last request, should i build garuo for hyper def for my mono geo team? also i assume his 4p would be oppulent dreams....and would other stats like crits, atk%, em matter?

also my special thanks to @jolly junco and others

[sick quarry]

Gorou?

[olive isle]

gorou?

oh don't mind asking a lot, this chat usually dies down the drain

[stark solstice]

ye, gorou...mb guys

[olive isle]

just er can do

he doesn't deal dmg and the def increase is not affected by def stats

[warped oracle]

Gorou really just needs ER to fundamentally work

Fav + Er sands then build crit rate

You absolutely could build him Def for his c4 passive or geo damage and stuff but… don’t waste your time

[stark solstice]

ahh ok..

thx guys!!

is husk of oppulent dreams still best set for dps mono geo itto?

[warped oracle]

Yes

[stark solstice]

i was reading 4p nighttime in the echoing woods

[warped oracle]

Let me check a few sources

[olive isle]

it still doesn't compete with 4pc husk

[warped oracle]

I doubt it does, and it’s not the best domain to farm

[stark solstice]

ahh ok

[warped oracle]

I also have to question how easy the effect can even be triggered by him, he wouldn’t have uptime like Navia does

[rugged sparrow]

also moreso because of his team archetypes don't allow crystallize that often

[keen willow]

Does lvl20 Candace do something

[rugged sparrow]

her burst still buffs NA dmg

it only scales with HP with A4 talent, otherwise 20% on all ult lv

[keen willow]

Ah so thats the blue glow on my characters

[median glade]

what u trying to fit her in ur frndship farming team

[wide aurora]

so i’m gonna try spiral abyss for the first time.
i’m not hoping to 36* it, but at least get enough for like 100-150 primos.

[keen willow]

Ye shes almost 10 so might aswell.. its either her or barbara

[wide aurora]

my teams i’m hoping to build
1.) mono pyro lyney,
2.) tighnari & kuki w/ fischl

[rugged sparrow]

you got good chars to 36* it, just invest on them more

[wide aurora]

is this suitable enough to at least get like to floor 11?

[median glade]

why no 2nd half nilou bloom

[wide aurora]

that’s the team i’m building rn

[keen willow]

Dam not even using the displayed characters

[rugged sparrow]

on paper you can 36*, but you need more investment ofc

we don't even know your build now that I mention it

[wide aurora]

builds are very, very rusty.
that’s been my main issue.
i’ve been going through a lot (college, family medical stuff, depression) so it’s been a pain trying to find motivation to build

[rugged sparrow]

btw finishing floor11 full stars give you 450 primos so it should be far above your estimation of 100-150 primo

[median glade]

tighnari could be rough for 2nd half
u don't have anything else

[wide aurora]

for my nilou/kaveh bloom (shhh, idc if he’s medicore. he’s funni dude)
the dream is nahida, nilou, xq, kaveh.
currently it’s yaoyao, nilou, xq, kaveh

[median glade]

nilou would be better for 2nd half

[rugged sparrow]

eh, Kaveh is good for Nilou bloom

[wide aurora]

ye my first half is that one raiden furina team.
i know it has a proper name but i call it mr worldwide mr 305 bc it involved characters from all different regions

[rugged sparrow]

your only competition is Baizhu
(Nahida being undisputable best for Nilou bloom)

[wide aurora]

first half - raiden, yelan, furina, jean
second half - nilou bloom.
i’m debating about maybe a gaming team depending on how it goes with him during latern rite. tho gaming might just be my “have fun” team in over world

idk the name for the first half team so i just call it mr worldwide mr 305

[median glade]

is that for floor 11

bcz for 12 hydro won't work first half

[wide aurora]

in general, i’m still building.
i’m on like floor 8 rn

[median glade]

oh

[wide aurora]

i’ve been busy with school and everything

for builds.
bc of just my situation and how grinding burns me out, (as well as just weird mental health stuff)
my goal is an okayish build? functional?

[rugged sparrow]

doesn't take a lot to clear abyss

[wide aurora]

woo

[rugged sparrow]

the more functional the team is, the less you have to focus on respective char build

[dusty cape]

3 am

[wide aurora]

ye.
i love me weird non meta teams but i don’t have time to build them unfortunately

[dusty cape]

cool ig

[wide aurora]

i did dps barbs to be funny once

[wide aurora]

~~ shh it’s a way to procrastinate on homework~~

[dusty cape]

ok???

[wide aurora]

wip,
i’ve been struggling to get a good crit thing for furina

that and raidens crit has been a battle

i have not won said battle

[sick quarry]

can someone help with the cathedral theft because i tried so many times and i just cant and im literally shaking and my hearts like going crazy

help im sorry that was so dramatic but i am and ahhhhh ewww

[wide aurora]

cathedral theft?

[sick quarry]

yeah

mondstadt

before you meet diluc

[keen willow]

I don't think you can do that in co-op

[wide aurora]

i found that very fun

[hallow dust]

recently got yoimiya, could i technically just swap hu tao for her in this comp and be fine?

[wanton tendon]

Yes

[wide aurora]

my tips is don’t speedrun, it sounds stupid but yeah.

[sick quarry]

I did like on my old account but that was 2 years ago

[hallow dust]

i made a whole new account because of that cause i didnt wanna do it lol

[sick quarry]

It was easy but I'm not used to it anymore

[rugged sparrow]

it's recommended to run a shielder with Yoi so

[wide aurora]

the cathedral is stealth/stragety.
don’t be afraid to run back to your original place, sit & wait etc

[rugged sparrow]

replace either of the three with shielder and you're good to go

[hallow dust]

xinyans my only built one lmao but she is triple crowned

[wanton tendon]

Welp if you don't have shielder, resistance provided by xingqiu and Bennett healing is pretty much enough and more budget friendly for f2p

[rugged sparrow]

just build Thoma or Layla, surely you have them?

[rugged sparrow]

it's not about surviving, lol

[hallow dust]

ya i have both

[rugged sparrow]

Yoi lose so much DPS by just dodging and ruining her vape sync

[wide aurora]

my heart says go with xinyan but i know she’s not optimal

[hallow dust]

HAHA

[wanton tendon]

True true

[hallow dust]

i have like 1080 resin rn i could build anyone

[wide aurora]

my queen got demolished

[hallow dust]

SHE DID

[hallow dust]

wait who would i replace in the comp then?

[wanton tendon]

1080 only? I will show how many fragile I have in few secs

[rugged sparrow]

any of the 3

[hallow dust]

prob yelan then since xq helps more

[rugged sparrow]

not necessarily, Yelan can be better for Yoi strictly because Yoi doesn't need the abundant hydro app + more damage for Yoi herself

[wanton tendon]

and i have spent quite a few of the fragile

[hallow dust]

so real of you i’d do the same except i always forget ab fragiles

[hallow dust]

maybe yoimiya yelan layla bennet?

[rugged sparrow]

sure

[neon harness]

Build phys dps Klee

[wide aurora]

with kaveh should i go for EM goblet or dendro damage

[rugged sparrow]

in Nilou bloom? all the way EM

[hallow dust]

unfortunately never going for klee

[neon harness]

Phys dps Ning /rel

Memey u shush

[wanton tendon]

I think it's called normal attack (NA) for the very least they are catalyst user, they don't have physical dmg

[haughty lotus]

Eye of perception 🙄

[neon harness]

It’s a joke, you can make any catalyst do phys dmg by using 4p clam and proto amber, and that stupid catalyst memey mentioned

[hallow dust]

might just atp

[neon harness]

And skyward also does phys dmg? Idk I don’t remember the passive

[wanton tendon]

bruh, mb i didn't get the joke

[neon harness]

[wide aurora]

paradise lost as well as mailed flower is solid right?

[rugged sparrow]

mhm, just mind your ER cuz Kaveh needs quite a lot

[wanton tendon]

I just unlocked it like few days ago only, now only the evernight temple is not explored yet. I do notice there are some island not showing in my map rn (might be the cause of quest that I haven't done) and I feel burnt out from that.

[rugged sparrow]

might as well just run Fav GS to fulfill his ER needs

[wide aurora]

i’m torn on either making him deep woods or paradise lost

[rugged sparrow]

Yaoyao can run the Deepwood if your Kaveh wants Paradise Lost

[neon harness]

[wide aurora]

i’m debating on adding collei instead of yaoyao as a battery but with bloom i always wanna go on the safe side

[rugged sparrow]

eh, either or works, Kaveh easily outheals bloom dmg

[jolly junco]

just pull nahida

[wide aurora]

my other team comp idea is clam barbs in and replacing yaoyao with collei as a battery.

[wide aurora]

i got guaranteed so that’s what i’m hoping for

[keen willow]

[wide aurora]

his best team is like nahida, kaveh, kokomi/barbs/xq, nilou

[rugged sparrow]

with Kaveh you'd want Xingqiu instead

[wide aurora]

his cool costume is next patch so fine by me tbh

ouji fashion my beloved

should i run collei as a battery instead for the team?

or yaoyao deepwood

[rugged sparrow]

either or works

Collei would be great if you have Elegy to further buff team-wide EM

[wide aurora]

do not

</3

she’s getting to level 90 slowly but surely

[copper mist]

But that's by far the most important part of Nilou

[rugged sparrow]

nice feather

imagine 25% hp sub

[copper mist]

Oh but all of their artifacts are not levelled either Ig

[rugged sparrow]

yeh

[wide aurora]

i’m trying. i am terrified to role and its terrible </3

that and lack of resources

70k is the threshold for her right?

[rugged sparrow]

74,444

[jolly junco]

without key, you are not realistically capping her passive

[rugged sparrow]

🔑

[wide aurora]

no moni.

[jolly junco]

with iron sting you can still get above 60k HP with hydro resonance and no other hp buffs

if you have dockhand you can also make nilou into a titan slayer

[wide aurora]

i do not either </3

[jolly junco]

makes sense

[wide aurora]

gacha weapons hate me

[jolly junco]

its a weapon banner limited wep

[rugged sparrow]

phat HB subs 😩 👌

[jolly junco]

thx

[rugged sparrow]

where are your flat 1k HP subs

[jolly junco]

idk

[rugged sparrow]

that's without hydro reso right

[jolly junco]

correct

its like 69-70k with

[rugged sparrow]

hot

[sick quarry]

ik this might be a weird question but how do i make it so it dosent take 22h for this thing to fill up?

[rugged sparrow]

increase your realm level

and uh, adding more load

[sick quarry]

realm level like uhhh trust rank?

[rugged sparrow]

yeh that

[wide aurora]

my weird crackpot theory i have with nilou is bc rn i am dockhandedless & keyless leveling up her talents a bit.
i know it’s not the most important thing and you can just do 1/1/1 but ill take any little “omph” i can get copium

[sick quarry]

im already rank 8 :c

[rugged sparrow]

isn't cap rank10

[wide aurora]

yeah

[jolly junco]

key is much better than dockhand anyway

[wide aurora]

no moni

[jolly junco]

i didnt tell you that you need to pull for it

[wide aurora]

shh im dying i can’t get it

i have two 5* weapons on my acc

it’s sad

[copper mist]

Also it's 22/hour right now so it takes 90 hours to get the full 2000

I think the fastest you can get is 30/hr

[vestal totem]

can i use raiden hypercarry (raiden, kaz, benny, sara) even if raiden is c0?

[copper mist]

Sure

But it will be like uhh

Less than half as good than the same team with C2 raiden and C6 Sara

[haughty lotus]

you're going to have better teams, sara is also pretty ass without c6

[copper mist]

Yeah

Like you can run it but you'll get more out of different teams

[vestal totem]

oof

[vestal totem]

What would a viable team be then?

Most are c0

[copper mist]

Raiden, Xiangling, Xinqiu, Bennett

[sick quarry]

what do I do here?

[earnest canyon]

iirc u make elevator descend, then jump ontop of it

or make it descend and ascend and jump on top of it

one of those

[neon harness]

😏

[vestal totem]

oke

tysm

[whole wedge]

When is drip marketing for new characters

[dense schooner]

Is thundering pulse great on childe?
I mean ofc the high cd is good but is tp's passive also good on him?
By reading his riptide stance description i understood it is considered normal attack dmg so tp should be his second bis besides his actual bis

[keen condor]

Yea to is his second best

[copper mist]

Tomorrow

[keen condor]

yay

[copper mist]

Probably

[keen condor]

Hoping for choiri

[indigo sleet]

Anyone know why Akasha changed from CV to RV for artifacts??

[warped oracle]

Likely to better highly other stats which may lead to greater damage, and it’s overall a better flex number

[sick quarry]

it did not change, you can still switch back to CV by clicking on it

[copper mist]

RV is a better evaluation of how good a build is generally

[indigo sleet]

Uh huh

So I thought the 2nd flower was trash compared to the first cuz it only has like 33CV compared to 43CV, but somehow has a higher RV value??

Also, build 1 has higher Cr and CD, yet somehow lower dmg overall??

[copper mist]

Yeah the build on the right is better

Your flower there has only useful stats

[quaint fern]

Right has more ER and atk

[copper mist]

I'd still confirm with genshin optimizer but sounds like you did

Do you like raiden perhaps

[opal surge]

whats the highest RV an artifact can have

900%? if 4 line and 8 perfect subs rolls?

[quaint fern]

Sounds about right

[indigo sleet]

Yea

[zealous ledge]

Which is the better Yae build? On a team with Nahida, Fischl, and Zhongli

[dusty cape]

1.2k atk

[haughty lotus]

ditch the ER sands

[zealous ledge]

Use EM Sands instead?

[haughty lotus]

atk or em

probably atk since you're under nahida burst

[zealous ledge]

Fortunately my sands is already off-piece and I just rolled these two

I've also got these lying around in case I'd want to go EM

[obtuse gale]

go em

better

[zealous ledge]

Real?

[obtuse gale]

yes

[shadow lynx]

for Aggravate Yae Miko you need some EM in there

[zealous ledge]

What does @haughty lotus say

[shadow lynx]

[haughty lotus]

atk
just use optimizer or test it yourself

[noble vale]

What weapon I can use for Xiangling?

For Raiden National team

[native summit]

what polearms do you have

[shadow lynx]

She's pretty flexible with weapons, some good ones tho are R5 Catch, Fav Lance, Dragons Bane and White Tassel if you dont have the catch or dont have any other 4 star gacha

[noble vale]

Oh let me check

[native summit]

FAVGE MENTION

[haughty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/welt-gif-honkai-gif-honkai-star-rail-gif-honkai-honkai-star-rail-gif-12523578577577546558

[opal surge]

The standard 4* choices would be catch on raiden and dbane on xiangling

[noble vale]

My current weapons

[sick quarry]

This is tough

[noble vale]

Let me see how many polearms I have

[haughty lotus]

why did you try for engulfing...

[sick quarry]

You should use dragons bane when you’re not using hutao

[native summit]

dbane on xiang

maybe give deathmatch to tao?

[noble vale]

You can see it better lol

[noble vale]

Damn idk 😬

[sick quarry]

Oh yea that’s an option too

I didnot notice it there

[noble vale]

Is deathmatch on Tao good?

[sick quarry]

Yes

[haughty lotus]

you're benching your hu tao, both teams need xingqiu

[noble vale]

It has crit rate for deathmatch

[tawny vigil]

I can only take one liben per day?

[noble vale]

Too bad I have to farm materials to level up deathmatch

[haughty lotus]

you dont

you cant use hu tao while using raiden national anyways

[noble vale]

But does it need to be lvl 90? For deathmatch

Well I can swap it if I use either of them for bane

[opal surge]

Uh

[noble vale]

If I want to use Raiden national team I’ll put DB on xiangling and if I want to use Tao team I’ll switch back DB to Tao

[opal surge]

yeah

[shadow lynx]

for Hu Tao yes since shell be doing most of the damage for her team

[opal surge]

xiangling also does the most damage in rational

[haughty lotus]

for anyone yes*

[opal surge]

[shadow lynx]

No the enemies do the most damage

[opal surge]

I think if the enemies are even close to outdamaging your rotation your rotation wont be lasting very long

[haughty lotus]

how ass do your builds have to be for the enemies to be hitting higher

[shadow lynx]

rate this?

[haughty lotus]

ok

[shadow lynx]

you asked I delivered

[haughty hawk]

i need u

[haughty lotus]

I want you, I want you

[haughty hawk]

by mitski

[haughty lotus]

who is mistki

[haughty hawk]

[haughty lotus]

What. Did. You. Delete.

[median glade]

mitsuki

[haughty hawk]

mitski

[swift crown]

[haughty hawk]

[neon harness]

Breh

[swift crown]

haiii

there’s a power outsge in school rn

[vagrant kayak]

guys which chars can use song of days past

[sick quarry]

Question is tighnari good or bad?

[neon harness]

pretty good, he is a quickswap dps

[haughty hawk]

.<

[haughty lotus]

what are you doing bbg 💀

[neon harness]

ive just been logging in spending all the resin equivilent shits and then logging out, i didnt think i would max out inventory this fast

[median glade]

just select all 4* and salvage

[haughty lotus]

time to strongbox the fua set like crazy, your jingyuan is outdated

[neon harness]

🥹 I still need a crit rate thing for seele

[sick quarry]

Thx can you send me a guide thio

[median glade]

I saw u using old set on kafka

[neon harness]

A build guide? It’s in the pins

[haughty lotus]

you should probably also be farming another domain with 2 efficient sets since the set that comes with quantum is pretty sus

[haughty lotus]

🧐

[median glade]

[vagrant kayak]

guys who can use song of days past

[neon harness]

what should I farm, is the argenti one good? Cus I have yet to build him

I don’t even know what argenti uses

[haughty lotus]

4pc physical I think?

[neon harness]

[haughty lotus]

comes with 4pc thief which is kinda cope

[vagrant kayak]

cheeky cows

[median glade]

wait till they make an emblem version of hsr

[neon harness]

[haughty lotus]

id farm the follow up attack set if you are using jingyuan, the DoT set has atk% 2pc so you can use it on a lot of other characters

[river parcel]

Ya'll i redirected someone from #💬gimshim-chat to here to ask a question and you have failed me.

https://tenor.com/view/what-tomato-gif-21037131

[median glade]

when #📌gimshim-help becomes #💬gimshim-chat

[river parcel]

Answer this when you guys can. ( It's making me look bad)

[vagrant kayak]

LIKE is it that hard

[haughty lotus]

vague question

[vagrant kayak]

omds just list a character ive got such good pieces on a set i dont want for some reaskn

[median glade]

good advice

[haughty lotus]

do you main navia: some characters can use it if they dont use tenacity/noblesse well
do you not main navia: the set doesnt exist

[vagrant kayak]

um ya i use navia

[haughty lotus]

fr

[vagrant kayak]

would it work on like bennett and mona on noblesse

[haughty lotus]

no

[vagrant kayak]

aur

so like i just umm leave it!

[haughty lotus]

idk what teams and healers you even play

[vagrant kayak]

omg im gonna use it on barbara

bc its cute and it like um boosts dmg bonus or sm when u heal

[strange scarab]

[river parcel]

Okay... maybe a better question is, what your current team comps rn?

[vagrant kayak]

like my main team rn

[strange scarab]

ye

[vagrant kayak]

navia ben mona yelan

its so fun

[strange scarab]

[quaint fern]

Should be okay on Bennett if you're playing Xiao Furina faru

[haughty lotus]

bennett noblesse, faru tenacity. if she's not c6 her set bonus doesnt matter, just sort by ER

[quaint fern]

You can trigger SoDP from off field

Idk if it's better than noblesse though

[neon harness]

healer yanfei SoDP

[quaint fern]

[neon harness]

True, healer Klee is better

[river parcel]

Probs not good for any of those then, bc youre more likely to have nob on bennett and then EoSF for mona and yelan

[vagrant kayak]

kay

oh girl my mona on instructor and yelan on a dps..

[river parcel]

Change it then

[vagrant kayak]

but thats okay!! 🥰🥰😋😋🤞

[haughty lotus]

what reaction are you triggering in that team

[vagrant kayak]

um my yelan pops a 120 k e out of nowhere w bennett

[neon harness]

geo+anemo surely

[dusty cape]

[vagrant kayak]

monas on um instructor bc i cba changjng jt until hoyo give us preset layouts for artifacts

[river parcel]

This team isnt gonna do well in general. Would reccomend swapping mona and yelan off to esof asap

[vagrant kayak]

ya i can do mona

[haughty lotus]

mona is kinda just bad on the team

[river parcel]

AND yelan

[vagrant kayak]

um no❤️

[river parcel]

[vagrant kayak]

yelan doing dmg is more satisfying

[river parcel]

YELAN WILL DO MORE DAMAGE WITH ESOF

[haughty lotus]

[vagrant kayak]

mona e + yelan e is enough for a burst girl

i tried her on esof girl did nothing

[haughty lotus]

clueless

[vagrant kayak]

my burst dmg on a 2 pc hydro 2pc hydro is more than emblem rn

[river parcel]

Nevermind, i apologize #📌gimshim-help .

i should not have redirected them here

[haughty lotus]

ok farm more emblem

[vagrant kayak]

HAHAHHA

no i cba ive farmed for like 4 months

[dusty cape]

[vagrant kayak]

m not gonna use something just bcz its meta..

[haughty lotus]

[dusty cape]

4 months of farming is nothing tbh

[neon harness]

Damn only 4

[vagrant kayak]

how much you been doing then

[haughty lotus]

years

[dusty cape]

1-2 years

[vagrant kayak]

oh!! its okay to be okay

[quaint fern]

Emblem bros have never left

[haughty lotus]

I am now a blizzbro

[dusty cape]

I am deepbro

[quaint fern]

Not a question of how long, but when they started

I am goldenbro

[dusty cape]

seele or xueyi

[vagrant kayak]

how much burst dmg would a emblem yelan be doing

[quaint fern]

Hanya

[vagrant kayak]

my 2 hydro 2 hydro does like 11 k per

[haughty lotus]

kafka

[quaint fern]

11k is nothing

[river parcel]

Do you know why it's meta? Bc it stastically does more damage... which you want don't you? Because you like seeing the damage from yelan?

And if you're not gonna do meta anyways, why ask if "song of days past", can be used on anyone to begin with? The only reason you ask this is because you want to know if its good or not. But if you didnt care about meta, why ask in the first place? Just slap that on wheoeve you think its good for.

[dusty cape]

burst should be like 7-8k and skill should be like 20kish (that's what my mid yelan does)

[vagrant kayak]

i asked bc the healing bonus

and the 4pc is confusing so like whos it useful for

[quaint fern]

No one

[vagrant kayak]

why does it exist then..😞😞

[haughty lotus]

it's so niche that you need to actually tell us who you use

[dusty cape]

[quaint fern]

Unless you're using a healer in a def or HP scaling team

[haughty lotus]

seele more meta but xueyi is probably better in aoe when you cant 1 shot things with seele

[vagrant kayak]

sket

[dusty cape]

xueyi it is

[haughty lotus]

just transfer over relics when you feel like it

[quaint fern]

Guys, Natasha or fu xuan

[river parcel]

Bc hoyo likes to make artis exist for no reason.

[dusty cape]

(cruising for topaz )

[haughty lotus]

luocha

[river parcel]

And it could also become good for someone in the future but as of rn, it's a waste

[neon harness]

Bals

[dusty cape]

I hate myself so time to try to get a broken keel set for fu xuan

[haughty lotus]

rutilant

[river parcel]

I'll grab a video ig

With my scuffed yelan. Solo

[vagrant kayak]

i would so switch to emblem but 4 star bow ops r ugly

thats why im using stringless

[river parcel]

wtf

[dusty cape]

stringless is a 4*

[haughty lotus]

dont correct, meta is gross

[vagrant kayak]

i know other ones r

the recommended ones i dont got

[river parcel]

You dont have fav?

[haughty lotus]

if only the best one was given out for free

[vagrant kayak]

that twilight fade or something??

[river parcel]

What

[vagrant kayak]

literally tried it and r5 stringless outshined in burst dmg

[river parcel]

Favinous warbow

[vagrant kayak]

the yellow bow that persons on abt

ill try fav

[dusty cape]

[haughty lotus]

because your ER takes a massive hit and you never get your burst up after the first rotation

[vagrant kayak]

jst use someone like xingqui w yelan then...

[river parcel]

Fav is better on esof

[native summit]

favge

[vagrant kayak]

kazuha also gives energy so??

[haughty lotus]

[river parcel]

I regret my decisions

[vagrant kayak]

if it works it works girl😕😕

[haughty lotus]

#💬gimshim-chat

[dusty cape]

#💬gimshim-chat

[river parcel]

At least now i know in the future if someone asks a question in #💬gimshim-chat , i will ask if they are willing to get better first before redirecting them here

[earnest canyon]

omegalul

[haughty lotus]

ive seen people in jenshin chat say they dont like asking here bc we are mean or smth

[sturdy swallow]

[vagrant kayak]

i literally asked here and got ignored so dont talk..

[haughty lotus]

talk

[vagrant kayak]

actual nitty

[earnest canyon]

[river parcel]

I do disgaree with #📌gimshim-help ignoring you but i also disgaree with you asking for help and then recieving said advice and throwing it out

[vagrant kayak]

didnt even ask for advice on yelan though did i i asked for the song of days past char recommendations

[earnest canyon]

thats not really helping your case

[vagrant kayak]

shut up blend out

[river parcel]

Yes but #📌gimshim-help couldnt reccomend what characaters they could be good for without knowing who your team comps and characters are

[haughty lotus]

then I asked who you use and you gave me basically nothing besides bennett and mona

[vagrant kayak]

i said the team im using rn then someone said yeah

[shadow lynx]

Yelan/Mona/Benett wat kind of team is this??

[haughty lotus]

a bad one

[shadow lynx]

also I heard Fav Sword is better than R5 Sac for DPS Xing when he has good er whats your take on this

[neon harness]

😝 make them all clam phys dps healers and then it sounds like a team I’ll suggest

[haughty lotus]

generally fav sword is better, depends on the team where sac is better

[vagrant kayak]

literally all that matters is i can 36 abyss

[shadow lynx]

This is on a Zhongli/Hu Tao/Yelan/Xing or Zhongli/Navia/Xing/Yelan team

[vagrant kayak]

gen dont see how its a bad team

[river parcel]

YOU CAN

[river parcel]

WHAT

[haughty lotus]

double hydro so sac, for navia fav might be better tho if her ER needs are bad

[vagrant kayak]

wdym what i said all that matters is the team works in abyss...

[river parcel]

it might work for this round bc of the abyss buff ig being catered for navia, but it might not work in the future

[vagrant kayak]

then i can just use a diff char..

[dusty cape]

36*

[earnest canyon]

floor 4

[shadow lynx]

I get my burst back on cooldown pretty often for Navia since Zhongli uses R5 Fav Lance I was just taken back because in Maincord they're telling me in many situations Sac sword isn't anywhere close to his BIS and im like wut

[vagrant kayak]

please dont be getting all big when you call yourself cocogoatmain

[earnest canyon]

its a joke
and also how does my username relate to this

[sturdy swallow]

salty much

[vagrant kayak]

because if u wanna talk we can take it to dms

[earnest canyon]

all i see is you throwing advice you get out of the window

[haughty lotus]

they are looking for cheap ways to win an argument

[earnest canyon]

chill out

[vagrant kayak]

LMAOO okay and literally bq nobody asked for your input

[haughty lotus]

sayings its nowhere near close is a stretch

[strange scarab]

guoballs

[river parcel]

[vagrant kayak]

okay this a help channel ill go now

[river parcel]

i sincerely apologize to #📌gimshim-help for redirecting him here from #💬gimshim-chat

[strange scarab]

[earnest canyon]

hi guoballs, i'm dad

[dusty cape]

sadly we do not provide mental help here

[haughty lotus]

@umbral sedge hi guoballsHD, i'm memesicles

[strange scarab]

im eating 14 rolled eggs rn

[river parcel]

hold up guys let me make a flowchart

[strange scarab]

[dusty cape]

[umbral sedge]

hi mémésiclés, i'm guoballsHD

[haughty lotus]

Good day, GuoballsHD.

[umbral sedge]

[haughty lotus]

[umbral sedge]

Good day, mémésiclés.

[shadow lynx]

Atleast it aint like in maincord where you get chaistised for not already having end-game knowledge at AR 35

[umbral sedge]

[umbral sedge]

wdym, the maincorders themselves are ar 35 knowledge

[olive isle]

[haughty lotus]

is it actually that bad?

[shadow lynx]

yes

[umbral sedge]

some1 said "team for itto, yelan, rizzly?"
a helper said none of them are hypercarries

[strange scarab]

gaming time

[haughty lotus]

link

[neon harness]

Sounds like me

[shadow lynx]

I saw some poor AR35 posting their XYZ build with an get destroyed for not having a gacha and having a defense goblet and I'm like well gee I'm sure they're trolling

[haughty lotus]

xianyun >>>

[earnest canyon]

just need a bit more er and good to go ykyk

[umbral sedge]

[haughty lotus]

itto isnt a hypercarry

[strange scarab]

crystallize support

[dusty cape]

[shadow lynx]

3 people tried to convince me @strange scarab that Nilou is an amazing low AR character and would be much better than Nahida

I fell off my desk

[strange scarab]

but but but xianyun solos

hey thats pretty normal yk

[earnest canyon]

who needs extra characters yk traveller supposed to beat the game without support /s

[strange scarab]

yesterday in HPS somebody asked for which navia team is better
both team are dogshit, everyone is flaming them, they got mad saying they use whatever they think is fun

[neon harness]

Just use balls /real

[shadow lynx]

when I get sussy teams I always ask mate is this for Abyss or overworld??

[strange scarab]

for fun

their first mistake was looking for fun in maincord's help channel

[haughty lotus]

do you get swarmed for randomly typing guoballs?

[strange scarab]

i dont even dare typing guoballs

[haughty lotus]

[strange scarab]

unless i wanna get off topic reacted or hammer reacted

[neon harness]

Guoballs

[umbral sedge]

only 14 guoballs in maincord logs...

[pulsar flint]

Is this a good bow for a main dps venti?

[shadow lynx]

yis

[river parcel]

anything i should add?

[earnest canyon]

get them to read https://xyproblem.info first