📌gimshim-help

[neon harness]

#👥gimshim-coop

[near schooner]

Oh, alright

[neon harness]

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[ebon bloom]

who r the 5*s that are coming in the next 2 - 3 patches?

[iron wing]

does anyone know how to solve this

[elder bluff]

get enough clearance

[neon harness]

we dont know

anything past ayato cyno has not been released

leaks are not allowed in this server, this is an official server
just putting this out there

[ebon bloom]

oh ok ok

[lofty badger]

how do you get it

[ebon bloom]

are there any predictions so i could know who to kind of prep for? or should i just try and prep for everyone i want regardless of when they're coming

[neon harness]

https://game8.co/games/Genshin-Impact/archives/391036

[elder bluff]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Scarlet_Sand_Slate

[feral forge]

how many primos do we get till furina banner end including exploration new quests and events

[neon harness]

during 3.0, an archon was rerun every patch, 4.0 has followed this pattern so far, zhongli venti furina has already been on banners, its argueable that nahida and raiden will be in the next 2 patches

raiden has always been ran with sara on her banner

if hoyo releases any splash arts, they will be in the next patch

predictions often dip into leaks, so just beware of discussing that in this server

[pastel zealot]

can i open all of inazuma's chests within 10 days

excluding enka

[ebon bloom]

mhm ok tysm i'll prep for them then, i already started for raiden and i almost have all the artifacts but i'm just missing a good circlet

[ripe robin]

yeah depending on if you start working on all the timegated chests early

[pastel zealot]

time gated chests?

[neon harness]

sure if you decide to spend hours and hours playing everyday

[pastel zealot]

hmm

yea sure im saving for ayaka

[neon harness]

good luck!

[pastel zealot]

im just hoping i can get 50-60 wishes from inazuma chests

[ripe robin]

yea some chests can't be gotten right away.

[pastel zealot]

ooh

[ebon bloom]

thank you!

[pastel zealot]

and sumeru too
might as well consider liyue idk

can someone give me some advice regarding which region to explore for primos

[neon harness]

have you done aranra questline?

[rugged sparrow]

easily Sumeru first

[pastel zealot]

no...

[pastel zealot]

fr?

[neon harness]

aranara questline gives a 10 pull

[pastel zealot]

sumeru then inazuma then liyue?

[rugged sparrow]

well it contains the most chest + has the most time-gated quests

[pastel zealot]

wow

[rugged sparrow]

yeah Sumeru > Inazuma > Liyue sounds like a good routing

[pastel zealot]

how many wishes can i get from sumeru?

[rugged sparrow]

Sumeru and Inazuma has their respective "trees" too

[pastel zealot]

yea true

[rugged sparrow]

a lot

give or take somewhere around 50+

[pastel zealot]

hmm

from sumeru desert?

[rugged sparrow]

whole Sumeru, I might be undercutting it though

[pastel zealot]

oh.

i thought 50 for forest and 20 for the desert

[quaint fern]

shorely more from desert

[pastel zealot]

or is that overestimating

[ripe robin]

if we're counting the whole of sumeru is easily over 60 wishes, if we're counting questlines and collectibles that you claim primos with.

[rugged sparrow]

sounds about right

[pastel zealot]

ic

[quaint fern]

I might be thinking that the total primo yield is higher than it acutally is because you're missing the version event primogems and whatnot that we also had at the same time

[pastel zealot]

true

imma try getting sumeru done before 4.3
since my finals are over

[rugged sparrow]

gl

[pastel zealot]

thanks :D

which region should i also try to explore for a guaranteed 5 star?

[quaint fern]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pastel zealot]

lemme take a guess inazuma

[quaint fern]

i've been told that fontaine has a higher average primogem/chest or puzzle ratio

inazuma has a lot of very tiny chests

[rugged sparrow]

ehh, Erinnyes and Morte doesn't really yield much

[pastel zealot]

sounds about right

[quaint fern]

not many larger chests

[high fog]

yaoyao dmc or collei for al hyperbloom

[pastel zealot]

im guessing fontaine after sumeru

nahida

[quaint fern]

yeah just finishing the world quests should get you a large % of exploration

[iron wing]

is there anyway to check 50/50 without wish history

[quaint fern]

I was noticing that pretty much every 1-2 occuli in erinnyes is ~1% exploration

[quaint fern]

nope

[sick quarry]

golden troupe would be fire on raiden why is no one using it

[quaint fern]

because you get abysmal burst damage?

[unreal sandal]

anyone know where to find "basically ball-shaped Teyvat products"?
It's for the event

[rugged sparrow]

Pinecones
Potatoes
Flaming Flower Stamen, etc
Sango pearls
Apples
Sunsettias
Lumidouce bells
cabbages
Berries
Bulle Fruit

[unreal sandal]

thx for the help

[quaint fern]

can you even find wild potatoes?

[rugged sparrow]

pretty sure you can if you dig certain spots

alongside radishes and carrots

[neon harness]

investigate crates surely

[rugged sparrow]

and well, CABBAGES

[quaint fern]

😭 I'll just look for a guide or smth tmrw

[rugged sparrow]

I mean potatoes aside, you still have others to photo

[quaint fern]

what is bulle fruit again? the oranges?

[rugged sparrow]

Fontaine fruit yes

[neon harness]

yea

[quaint fern]

does raiden fruit count?

[rugged sparrow]

Amakumo? perhaps, didn't try

[quaint fern]

idk the name, the seirai island one

[rugged sparrow]

yes

ran out of films already

[craggy siren]

fight da wei to get cabbages

[quaint fern]

True

[elder bluff]

you don't have balls if you need to ask where are "basically ball-shaped Teyvat products"

[quaint fern]

:balls:

Wolfhooks probably work?

[rugged sparrow]

yes

[craggy siren]

wolf hook being spiky works but this thing in fontaine doesn't

[rugged sparrow]

[quaint fern]

Is that a new mat?

[rugged sparrow]

from Morte region, yes

[quaint fern]

I just saw that pashiv had them in shop + gave us one

[feral forge]

[neon harness]

[craggy siren]

assuming you're a f2p and the big event comes during this half, maybe enough for a 10 pull?

[feral forge]

[feral forge]

btw is there any punishment in here for spamming

[neon harness]

probably

#📑rules

[neon harness]

hot

[mental onyx]

[lavish arch]

is there any website where i can see char's talent's skill attributes at different levels?

[olive isle]

use the genshin fandom wiki despite fandom is currently being boycotted for idk some reason but surely it’s about advertisements and site performance

or paimon.moe

[bitter geode]

Who's the best to replace in jere with a lv10 burst Furina with max ff for a Raiden nuke showcase
Bennett
Kujou Sara
Kazuha

[lavish arch]

thank you!

[craggy siren]

probably bennett but it would be hard to get fanfare

[lyric cargo]

loads fine for me. you mean it's blacklisted to link here now? 🤔

testing https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Furina

[olive isle]

no, a lot of major wikis like minecraft are moving from fandom

[lyric cargo]

ah

reasonable, their ads are pretty bad. auto-playing video iirc?

(enough of the internet is unusable without adblockers that I don't see them very often 😔)

[shrewd nacelle]

on mobile literally unreadable

More than half the screen is just ads

[dusty cape]

And then I try to scroll down for more info and the page just reloads over and over

[shrewd nacelle]

the worst are those full screen pop up ads which take years to load just so the X button appears. Thank god adblock works

[quaint fern]

I don't like it either but it does contain info that I don't know where to find anywhere else

paimon.moe has no info about icd and the mechanics of certain abilities that I might not be aware of / forgot

[umbral sedge]

Rip Blubberry
Welcome back Jerry Beaver

[quaint fern]

for instance, apparently lynette has special absorption prority which is inverse of typical infusion priority?

(even though I was struggling to actually see this in testing LOL)

[lyric cargo]

gotta start looking into alternatives to chrome though, they're working on making adblock unviable with manifest v3

[rugged sparrow]

[rain solstice]

does furina drain the party's hp? i swear everyone was full health a moment ago

[haughty lotus]

Yes, when her minions attack

[shrewd nacelle]

I use opera gx on mobile for the built in adblock and still works so far

[lyric cargo]

yes, about 50% in a 20s rotation afaik

it becomes a good thing once you add a teamwide healer, since she gives a dmg% buff that scales with hp change

[primal osprey]

there's probably a reason, but why use Jean over Charlotte with Furina? Charlotte seems to have the same initial heal and, with Constellations, pretty similar heal over time + Freeze synergy

[rain solstice]

oh so it would be better to add a healer for this then

[haughty lotus]

Viridescent venirir

[craggy siren]

4vv

[primal osprey]

Is that really why people use Jean for this team? Huh

[haughty lotus]

Yes, it’s a very big buff

[primal osprey]

Guess that doesn't apply to me then cause I'm running Wanderer/Furina lol

[haughty lotus]

You do want charlotte in freeze teams tho and the anemo to be a grouping like Kazuha or venti

[lyric cargo]

you can do a charge attack to switch her to pneuma mode and turn off her animals and get some slight healing instead

mostly in overworld, out of combat. the pneuma mode summon doesn't apply hydro or generate particles. she's not really worth a character slot in that mode

[craggy siren]

you're not running 4 vv on wanderer though?

[primal osprey]

Desert Pavilion

cause he's the main DPS

[haughty lotus]

Wanderer teams with Furina are kinda mid since you can’t fit a shielder into them

If you want to try it use mika as your healer

[primal osprey]

jokes on you I'm running Zhongli anyway

[haughty lotus]

Really now? No faruzan

[dusty cape]

[primal osprey]

I hate using Faruzan. Charged Shot buffers are incredibly clunky and Zhongli shreds the majority of resistances anyway

[dusty cape]

[haughty lotus]

Stack 300 ER and win

[primal osprey]

Faruzan shreds 30% anemo, Zhong shreds 20% all res

[craggy siren]

her burst shreds, not her charged shots

[primal osprey]

yea but you gotta charged shot for particles and that's a n n o y i n g

[shrewd nacelle]

400 er faruzan

[craggy siren]

just use benny with wanderer and furina for another team

[haughty lotus]

[lyric cargo]

yeah. someone like Jean / Baizhu / Charlotte / Mika / Barbara
though you'll have to build them to get good though healing

healing the whole party from 50% to full gives c0 Furina 200 stacks. 50 dmg% bonus at talent level 10 burst

[primal osprey]

I mean I'm not trying to 36 Star the Abyss here

[pliant token]

Help how do you get to the new hydro boss domain? I'm swimming around can't find the entrance

[primal osprey]

if I wanted to do that then yes I'd run Faruzan, but this is a fun team that I mostly like playing so I'm ok with it only being 80% supermurder

[rain solstice]

ohh nice nice, glad i have my barb built + having double hydro in the party

[fallen topaz]

How much CR should I have on Jean if running Fav?

[haughty lotus]

Barbara is quite bad for it tbh

[dusty cape]

er

[rugged sparrow]

Barb is fine depending on team

[haughty lotus]

If you are onfielding her

[rugged sparrow]

though mainly on-field driver Barb

[umbral sedge]

DPS Barbs>>>

[haughty lotus]

[dusty cape]

[sterile ridge]

does vorushka's glow 4pc buff work through furina's damage drain?

[haughty lotus]

No

[native solar]

help

[primal tendon]

anyone knows where to get red sample today for the event

[analog rapids]

each sunsetta tree gives like 3 pictures iirc

[primal tendon]

ok thanks

[neon harness]

when you move the movable crystal it changes the state of of the item from locked to unlocked or the other way around, what you are attempting is to unlock all of them or lock all of them
honestly the explenation is pretty confusing so just google a video guide

[elder bluff]

each valberry tree gives 4

[noble tangle]

explanation hope this help

[lyric cargo]

yeah.. I'm afraid she doesn't add much beyond sufficient healing and hydro resonance.
Her skill use doesn't create particles, so she doesn't help lower Furina's energy recharge needs. And Barbara's own ER req to burst every rotation will be quite high

still, she can do the job if it's your only built option

[rain solstice]

ohhh i see

[lyric cargo]

if this is the one I think, the hydro absorber acts as a way to carry charge (activation) from one monument to another. the switch toggles all monuments

so you basically want to take one monument's wrong state and use it to toggle another

1 1 0 1 0 → toggle switch
0 0 1 0 1 → use absorber
0 0 0 0 1 → toggle switch
1 1 1 1 0 → deploy from absorber
1 1 1 1 1

[tawny vigil]

how do i build mona for those one shot comes

[rugged sparrow]

level 10 talent, TTDS if needed, done

[tawny vigil]

what about artifacts

[rugged sparrow]

4p instructor / 4p Noblesse depending

[tawny vigil]

depending on what

[lean hound]

My Furina build rn, anything I should work on next?

[analog rapids]

Crit and er

[lean hound]

How much er? and cr?

like140 er?

[lyric cargo]

1:2 crit ratio

ER depends on the team

[analog rapids]

With her wep you can use a crit circlet

[lusty tulip]

Which teams do u guys use in the golden troupe domain?

[lyric cargo]

Furina Nahida Kuki Xq 🤷

[olive isle]

fufu xq yelan jean/kok

[lyric cargo]

it doesn't really take advantage of her dmg% buff, but it's comfortable

[sturdy swallow]

xiao sucrose bennet zhongli

[craggy siren]

neuvi furina charlotte jean for friendship farming too

[random vale]

solid build for an hour of farming ? (this build i set to change)

[craggy siren]

use an er sand and get more crit rate and hp subs

[neon harness]

level weapon and her levels first

[analog rapids]

You can also afford an offset piece since you're using 5pc

[random vale]

domains closed rn lol

[craggy siren]

level her to 90

[haughty lotus]

Level her skill and burst equally

[iron wing]

can anyone drop their furina build

idk how to build her and i only have skyward blade for weapon 😭😭

[primal tendon]

the five pieces is real

[haughty lotus]

Note my ER is only enough for some teams like double hydro. Hp goblet is a bit better than hydro goblet at c0

[primal tendon]

mine

still hoping to get a better circlet

[craggy siren]

here's mine

[lilac hollow]

Wow, everyone has good furina

[craggy siren]

that's a lot of er subs

[urban ivy]

Try getting Festering desire, wait

[lilac hollow]

thank you for the condolences

[craggy siren]

i mean if you get her sig, you are probably gonna be set with er

[pastel zealot]

coop chat kinda dead so imma ask if anyone here can help me with one chest
890781978

[swift crown]

what chest is it

[craggy siren]

the mushroom one infront of deep wood domain?

[pastel zealot]

yes

[pastel zealot]

this yes

[keen willow]

Can anyone send me that pipe sword fish locations

[swift crown]

wow thanks for the elaboration

[neon harness]

can you send me the fish, thanks

[keen willow]

Tanks

[pastel zealot]

my bad wrong ping

[cyan surge]

is there a reason why she only does wild numbers sometimes, i dont mean crit rate i mean like one crit is much bigger than the other

[neon harness]

she meaning who? you have 4 grils on the team

[craggy siren]

furina?

[cyan surge]

sorry i ment furina, i think its cause the vaporize

[craggy siren]

that and also one of the pets have higher dmg scaling too

that dmg being mostly single target

[cyan surge]

oh okay thank you

oh is this okay for a c0r1?

[craggy siren]

it seems good yeah

what are your stats looking like?

[neon harness]

depends on build

send enka card

enka.network

[lusty tulip]

How good is Neuvilette?

[neon harness]

pretty good imo

[cyan surge]

dont yell at me ik how she scaling she just has the best of extra artifacts rn

[haughty lotus]

[neon harness]

people were able to solo last abyss with c0 amber nuevi, so hes up there i think?

[neon harness]

crit rate where, hp where, er where,send enka card

[lusty tulip]

okay tyty

[craggy siren]

you should run er/hp/crit rate on her

[neon harness]

:thumb

[craggy siren]

[lusty tulip]

u lack er hp and cr
use hp goblet

[swift crown]

😭my neuvi couldn't even do it with supports

[neon harness]

😔

[cyan surge]

thats what im saying bruh these are junk artifacts for now not grinded ones

[neon harness]

😔 that doesnt look like enka card

[cyan surge]

its what i had which are mutated atk orinted ones

[swift crown]

my mh set on him needs saving 😔😔😔

[haughty lotus]

Same

[neon harness]

nuevi atk scalling na dps when

[swift crown]

i went back to the gilded mines

[neon harness]

gimme ur furina artifacts and ill give u my leftover nuevi ones

[craggy siren]

me running 2mh and 3 random pieces on him 😔 😔 😔

[haughty lotus]

Why

[neon harness]

yae simp surely

[haughty lotus]

Nah, hydro wifey #2 >>>>>>> Monsieur nervilet

[swift crown]

it takes me like 5-10s max to clear compared to the long ass time it takes for me to clear the mh one because it has 2 waves 😔😔😔

[neon harness]

nuevilette>ur mom

[swift crown]

also yae >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[haughty lotus]

What’s the point of clearing if you aren’t getting the right artifacts

[neon harness]

🥺 deepwood nuevilette surely

[swift crown]

and then i'll strongbox for my raiden who still can't get a decent onset flower 😔😔😔

[swift crown]

im benching neuvi

[haughty lotus]

Come on, he’s fun with Furina

[neon harness]

how could u betray me like this

[swift crown]

he's not hot enough to constantly give me terrible drops 😭😭

and be getting away with it

[neon harness]

😔

[swift crown]

where's mine

[haughty lotus]

[swift crown]

i'll still drool over fanart though

[neon harness]

memey stole it

[haughty lotus]

[neon harness]

😳 im still drooling over u

[swift crown]

at least i have my festering waiting for her next rerun

[swift crown]

i haven't stopped for you

[haughty lotus]

Droll

[neon harness]

[neon harness]

:memeyshush:

[swift crown]

also ngl the genshin burnout is starting to hit me again

[haughty lotus]

Who

Just pull Furina

[neon harness]

😔 u playing star rail?

[swift crown]

she doesn't want me as much as i want her 😭😭

[neon harness]

just do the event so i can steal ur shit smh

[swift crown]

ill play when ruan mei banner drops

[haughty lotus]

I did smg

Give me red bbg

[neon harness]

😳 u have any extras of the cards in the midle

[haughty lotus]

Idk what that means

[neon harness]

leme log in

[swift crown]

😭 i have like 4 copies of the first three cards and none of the last two

[neon harness]

time to black mail furu for his cards

[haughty lotus]

Blue? 🧐

[neon harness]

What da hel

[swift crown]

too many of them

i started randomly mailing them out to people on my friends list who had like 1-2

[neon harness]

i dont have red pensive, rn i only have extras of the purple

[reef comet]

Lol

[haughty lotus]

[swift crown]

do you need any

[reef comet]

No, ill just take my time, 5 more times

[swift crown]

i didnt know u could take pics of items that were the same until just now

so i spent like 5 minutes just walking around taking exclusively one pic of each regional specialty and dying

[haughty lotus]

Is regional specialty the day 2 one?

[reef comet]

I wanna laugh about it, but i actually laughed about it

[neon harness]

i think it was round things

[haughty lotus]

Whar

[swift crown]

i also went around finding diff mobs for the day 1 one 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[reef comet]

10 valberry

[neon harness]

people said stuff about taking pics of sunsettieas

[swift crown]

keep yourself safe ♥️

[haughty lotus]

Is that up on NA? 🧐

[neon harness]

nar

[haughty lotus]

Ar

[neon harness]

in 1hr and 40 min

[haughty lotus]

Puga

[neon harness]

should i friendship quest farm or farm chests

[craggy siren]

both

[swift crown]

friendship quests

[craggy siren]

[swift crown]

don't you just love logging in and out of your account 10x in coop to maximise fp gains 😍

[neon harness]

Haven’t done anything since heizou

[haughty lotus]

💀

[swift crown]

me neither

[neon harness]

😳

Furina primos no where 😔

[haughty lotus]

Ski sue

[neon harness]

don buly

[swift crown]

my furina is nowhere

[neon harness]

😔

[rich geyser]

Anyone here have extra purple for trade /w?

[neon harness]

#👥gimshim-coop

[dense quarry]

Hello, anybody here in the Asia server interested in trading color samples? I'm looking for one blue, yellow, and purple. I have some brown samples to let go of.

[craggy siren]

i have blues to spare 800265225

[dense quarry]

I can only trade browns.

[tepid basalt]

which is better?

[neon harness]

left, unless you need the er or extra 3 cr from the right

[tepid basalt]

68.9/173.6 and 186.2% er vs 72/159.6 and 199.2% er

[olive isle]

??

[neon harness]

@umbral sedge sussy

[umbral sedge]

https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/

@neon harness sussy you are

[olive isle]

what's the deal with oishi's prawn crackers

[neon harness]

rest of the stats matter,2nd one imo

[umbral sedge]

[neon harness]

breh

[tepid basalt]

this seems complicated

[neon harness]

OISHIOISHIOISHIOISHIOISHIOISHIOISHIOISHIOISHIOISHIOISHIOISHIOISHIOISHI

[umbral sedge]

It does seem complicated at first but it's very useful after you learn how to use it
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcVsEMZO5IVFQdeh8zteZwiNchObfQ684

A feature is takes the artifacts you have and gives the best possible combination for your character/teams

[neon harness]

Pys yanfi clc tmw

[umbral sedge]

[neon harness]

10/10 speling

[olive isle]

🤝

[jaunty temple]

which one for neuv?

[olive isle]

right

[thorn scaffold]

Does Furina take 50% of curent HP or total max HP?

[snow oar]

should i use hp goblet or stick with hydro

[craggy siren]

hydro goblet is fine

[neon harness]

Nuevilette uses hydro goblet unless using sig which opens the option of hp

[jolly junco]

using him with furina makes HP goblet more competitive too

[jolly junco]

that is a very good hydro goblet (and on-set) so could be difficult to replace

[pastel zealot]

havent done a single one...

[spiral mantle]

is this goblet decent?

[sly musk]

Is this team ok? I dont have Shenhe yet. Im not sure if I should use kazuha or Jean(c2). May I know furina ER requirement using Fav sword?

[jolly junco]

Check ERC
that team works fine, or you can use kazuha + charlotte instead of jean + rosaria

[sly musk]

ERC ?

I dont have charlotte

[jolly junco]

the energy recharge calculator

[pastel zealot]

how long is the aranyaka quest

[jolly junco]

several hours

[pastel zealot]

like 5 or sum?

[sly musk]

I dont understand to use it

[pastel zealot]

or 10

[sly musk]

[jolly junco]

the pinned version includes a guide on how to use it

[spiral mantle]

ratio rn

ill prob farm for a flower that gives atleast 20 cr so its 70/170

[jolly junco]

depends on you

[sly musk]

What I did correct?

[jolly junco]

No

[sly musk]

[jolly junco]

read the whole guide first

and check the notes on the side when you open the ERC, it'll explain some things

[sly musk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555291714307227648/1073625821165662298/noo.gif

[serene pivot]

triple em for hyperbloom raiden?

[neon harness]

yes

[sly musk]

How about now?

[neon harness]

with em weapon and paradise/gilded/2p2pem

[sly musk]

Damn spare me the spreadsheet, I've enough of this at work.. 💀

[jolly junco]

Nope

[serene pivot]

i've triple em, 4p gilded dreams on my kuki, can i just transfer that to raiden? currently my raiden has a hyper carry build

[sly musk]

[neon harness]

you can transfer it directly to raiden

[serene pivot]

as for weapon, she uses r5 catch, i'll switch to an em polearm

also, opinion on this hu tao build, i can do about 60k charged atk with vape

[neon harness]

flower can be better, try to get more cr

[serene pivot]

cool, i'll level up her skill as well, can get it to level 9

[neon harness]

na first

[copper mist]

How sus is this calc

It seems way too low no? Or is adding an extra fav proc on Lisa really that much energy

[neon harness]

Which flower should I use

[primal tendon]

obviously the left one

it has more cdmg and er

[neon harness]

hp on the right 😔 but i have 39k with double hydro so ig its less important

[primal tendon]

the left would compensate for right

[neon harness]

if there was no er on the left would it still be the left artifact, my er req is filled either way

3 fav on team and double hydro

[iron wing]

if i run main dps nahida could she work with baizhu weapon

(dont have it rn but should i pull for it)

[copper mist]

No

[copper mist]

Don't pull for it

Awful idea

For damage Nahida's best weapon is Widsith/Kagura's Verity

[iron wing]

okie ty

[copper mist]

Baizhu's weapon is only good on Baizhu, and kinda okay on Kokomi

No one else

[neon harness]

er req is 130, just calc'ed

[iron wing]

do u have suggestions i have nahida and other bad 4 stars because ive been saving

[primal tendon]

neuvillette?

[craggy siren]

proto amber is better

[neon harness]

r5 amber is barely behind

iirc someone said baizhu weapon was 1.5% better or something

[copper mist]

No ew

[neon harness]

so barely anything

[copper mist]

Suggestions for what?

[iron wing]

what/who to pul for

[lyric cargo]

did you screenshot your char pool somewhere above? If not, you can do that on the company's website:

https://act.hoyolab.com/app/community-game-records-sea/m.html

[copper mist]

Who do you like? Like, at first look, what characters stand out to you?

Once you know who you like we can also suggest good characters that synergize well with them

[lyric cargo]

in a vacuum, some good and flexible units are Nahida, Furina, Kazuha, Yelan

[iron wing]

i want to do hyperbloom

[fallen topaz]

What team could I run with this account for abyss?

[iron wing]

i really like yae miko and kokomi

[copper mist]

I meant units... But if all you wanna do is make a Hyperbloom comp, then units like Yelan, Kuki are good suggestions

[copper mist]

If you like Yae, good supports for her would be Baizhu/Yao Yao, Fischl, Kazuha

[neon harness]

the curent abyss cycle or abyss in general

[copper mist]

Kokomi is very flexible, she can fit in a lot of different team archetypes

[fallen topaz]

Current.

[neon harness]

mostly nilou bloom and freeze

[copper mist]

Yeah she stands out in those comps

[iron wing]

do u think i can run nahida and yae in same comp

[swift crown]

yes

[copper mist]

Yes, you can

You can play something like Yae, Nahida, Fischl, healer/shielder

[iron wing]

would yae nahida kokomi someone else work

[copper mist]

It would work but it wouldn't be that good of a team comp

And you need two teams eventually

I'd probably go for Yae, Nahida, Fischl, Kokomi if you really wanted to and make it kind of a quickbloom comp

[neon harness]

assuming f12
hutao xingqiu yelan kaz or healer, furina jean xingqiu yelan(maybe)
nahida kuki/raiden flex flex

yay fish nahida/yaoyao sucrose surely

[jolly junco]

an extra fav proc can really help that much

do this though

[copper mist]

Oh okayge

[pastel zealot]

Ic

[fallen topaz]

Thanks

If running Jean with Fav, how much CR should I run?

[copper mist]

Depends on your willingness to reset when you don't get it/how many autos you are prepared to do to get it

Typically for one/two hit fav proccers I hold myself to ~40% but my own Jean has 30% to make place for the Healing Bonus circlet

[fallen topaz]

If fav is r5?

[copper mist]

Yea, if your fav is lower refine I'd def recommend using crit rate circlet

Still might have to reset in some chambers

[fallen topaz]

Alright. makes sense.

[iron wing]

can baizhu work with nahida

or is he good in general

[copper mist]

@jolly junco What do I need to change, do I just remove the formula and input 0.35 on my own or can I change something somewhere else that would keep the formula intact while resulting in 0.35?

[copper mist]

He can, but it's kinda overkill. They're good together in Nilou teams. I'd say if you don't wanna play a separate team where Baizhu works better than Nahida, there is not really a reason to get Baizhu cuz Nahida can do most of what he does too then. In general Baizhu is kind of a luxury unit, Yao Yao is a good example of a 4 star that can usually fulfill the same role

[jolly junco]

You just delete the bit where it says 0.4 and manually put in 0.35 instead

[copper mist]

Right

[iron wing]

luxury unit feels very accurate for baizhu

[copper mist]

Nothing changed?

[copper mist]

Yeah. With Furina he got himself some new teams where he actually is really good, but for that you obviously need and want to play Furina

[jolly junco]

you adjusted it in the data tab right?

[copper mist]

Ok yeah it got slightly higher

Shibaaal

Is that to account for the Salon member targeting shenanigans

I've felt that Salon members only target stuff aggressively right after pressing E, if new targets appear after that and you don't press E they're just sitting there for a few seconds, no?

[jolly junco]

It's to account for the fact that they're not hitting enemies exactly off-cd every 2.5s (since that's the cd for the particle generation when one of them hits an enemy)

[copper mist]

Oh okay

[jolly junco]

0.4 particles/s just doesn't happen in practice

[zinc needle]

is there a good team with baizhu and furi in it

[lofty badger]

many

idk you can run furina fischl xinqiu baizhu

or if you want to go full bloom do baizhu nilou xinqiu furina

[copper mist]

Hmmge... No

This is not a good team

[jolly junco]

Baizhu, Alhaitham, Raiden/Kuki, Furina
Baizhu, Nahida/Dendro Traveler, Cyno, Furina
Ig you could also do Baizhu, Neuvillette, Raiden, Furina
In general she pairs pretty well with him for dendro related teams

[lofty badger]

maybe triple hydro isnt the best idea

[zinc needle]

can switch cyno with yae? don't have him

[jolly junco]

Should still work yes

[zinc needle]

whats that team? hyperbloom? spread bloom? idk I forgot the dendro reactions

[copper mist]

Quickbloom

[jolly junco]

Fischl might be better than pre C2 Nahida but idk (with Yae I mean)

I've seen several clears of this abyss on youtube using Yae, Fischl, Baizhu, Furina

[small blade]

2nd half?

[zinc needle]

ooo will aim for baizhu now ig thanks btw this patch is 4.2 right?

[jolly junco]

Yeah

[zinc needle]

damn is there a patch that kazuha is not in S+ in abyss usage rate

[jolly junco]

I don't really check usage rates but probably not

He's very good

And flexible team wise

[reef storm]

can anybody share yellow or red card ?

[jolly junco]

#👥gimshim-coop

[sly pond]

how to open this cave ?

[reef comet]

bomb

[primal latch]

Can someone recommend me a catalyst for kokomi? (Kokomi furina kazuha beidou team)

[jolly junco]

Hakushin would possibly be best for team DPS, solo electro Beidou is a bit questionable though

[primal latch]

Thanks, im using fischl for another team so im out of electro unit i just do high er. Tytyy

[primal latch]

How about if i dont use electro? Is hakushin ring still the best?

[jolly junco]

Prototype Amber would be better for something like mono-hydro

[primal latch]

Aight tyty

[jolly junco]

I'm guessing you don't have Moonglow or you would've mentioned it

[iron wing]

why does furina need ho

hp

[fallen topaz]

Her kit scales off hp

[iron wing]

the damage or healing or both

[rancid slate]

yes

[iron wing]

should i do crit dmg hp

or all hp

[jolly junco]

For main-stats? HP or ER/HP/Crit typically

If you have C2 Furina then Hydro goblet becomes more competitive

[iron wing]

i have skyward blade on her her er is insane with it

[jolly junco]

If you have enough ER without ER Sands, HP sands is better

[iron wing]

should i do any cd or cr

[jolly junco]

Skyward blade isn't very good though

She doesn't care about Atk

[jolly junco]

Yeah

[iron wing]

i dont have any other swords

[jolly junco]

The fishing sword is better

[keen condor]

Fav?

Fav sword isn’t bad

[jolly junco]

https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Fleuve_Cendre_Ferryman

[iron wing]

is skyward fr worse than that??

[jolly junco]

For Furina, yes

[keen condor]

Furina doesn’t need skywards base atk she only cares about the sub stat plus the fishing weapon has a better passive by a lot

[jolly junco]

The highlighted parts are the only aspects of Skyward Blade that are relevant for her

You can use Skyward on someone else like Bennett though, it's good on him

[lyric cargo]

Furina scales with hp, so the atk stat doesn't matter
both give somewhat similar ER, and Fleuve gives 16% skill crit rate

[keen condor]

How do we feel about hunter stark with heran with furina jean Benny

[keen willow]

Who do i use my two other skyward blades on

[iron wing]

is the fleuve hard to get c5

[keen condor]

Bennet and Jean use them

[keen willow]

I have 3, and i don't have jean

[jolly junco]

It's uh, decent on Jean and Ayaka outside of Bennett. I dunno if you have better options though

[keen condor]

Cope

[keen willow]

I'll use it on ayato one day

[keen condor]

I did that when I played burst support ayato

4pc emblem

[jolly junco]

Is that supposed to be Ayato?

[keen condor]

How did it even auto correct that badly also yes

[keen willow]

If they make more hydro focused abyss i have no choice but to use my lvl 1 ayato

[jolly junco]

I thought it was a joke I didn't understand

[keen condor]

Rip

[fallen topaz]

Should I run anemo goblet on Jean sunfire?

[jolly junco]

I'd replace Bennett with Yelan/Fischl/Xingqiu

[copper mist]

No, EM

[keen condor]

Fishl it is hope I get a good 4pc golden troupe

[fallen topaz]

Does that mean I also have to run EM on sands?

[jolly junco]

Either EM or ER

[copper mist]

Yeah but you can run ER if necessary for your team

[dense plover]

Can anyone help me find some subdetection unit?

[native patrol]

guys the photogapy event is it 7 times in total we can claim rewards or 7 times per dayt

[lyric cargo]

7 times total

has anyone tested if redeeming those rewards gives commission points, btw?

[keen condor]

They do

[dense plover]

tysm

[keen willow]

Ye all events give commission points

[keen condor]

If I do more than 2 commissions a day I feel wrong

I love the now system so much

[fallen topaz]

Would this be enough for Jean with R5 Fav?

[copper mist]

Why is her EM so low?

you should run triple/double EM in sunfire

[fallen topaz]

This better?

[lyric cargo]

I was wondering since it's not redeemed from a menu this time but an npc

[copper mist]

yeah that should be better but still kinda low

[fallen topaz]

I'll need to get better artifacts then.

[copper mist]

I mean it's not the biggest deal ever, her swirl dmg is good in that team but idk if it's worth investing that much resin in compared to investing more in your Raiden or something

[fallen topaz]

I mean, I'm currently farming for Furina artifacts, so I was thinking more of strongboxing it.

[feral forge]

do yall think that natlan will have a desert or sumeru will be the only one with the desert

[copper mist]

Oh are you using Jean in a Furina team here? Then Ig her healing is more important, but maybe it's enough to max out Furina's Fanfare stacks with Bennett in tow as well...

[keen willow]

Sumeru already has 3 deserts

Oh i read that wrong

[fallen topaz]

Yeah, the team I'm running is her, Furina, Bennett, Dehya.

[craggy siren]

dragonspine effect with heat instead

[keen willow]

Atp even Fontaine will have one desert

[feral forge]

dehya time

[feral forge]

[lavish arch]

for yaoyao what talent should i concentrate on? skill or burst?

[lyric cargo]

I got them both built. I guess I might run the em build with Bennett Furina since Ben also contributes some healing 🤔

[jolly junco]

I don't think there's any information to say there is, but it is located on the other side of Sumeru's desert so there might be some overlap. It's also hot in Natlan due to the volcanic activity (there are several natural hot springs), which would make a desert landscape more probable than some cooler regions

[feral forge]

hmm true

[copper mist]

I honestly do want a dragonspine-like effect across all of Natlan.

[lyric cargo]

burst I believe. You can check here: https://tinyurl.com/GenshinBuilds

[lavish arch]

oh ok ty!

[copper mist]

That would be so awesome. I kinda long for Inazuma's hostility towards the traveller

both in the story and in the region's gameplay

[jolly junco]

Might be worth asking #📚lore-dungeon though because that's just the information I got from spending 1 minute reading the wiki

[lavish arch]

thx!

[feral forge]

i mean whattya said is true so that might be the case

||also imagine dunkin rhodeia in the hot springs ||

[feral forge]

btw apple since ya here is it worth goin for the furina sig wep cuz i really want a 5 star sword with cv as my other sword charas be sharing blackcliff

[jolly junco]

Not really. Her weapon doesn't synergise well with other characters and the current weapon banner is shit (because of Baizhu's weapon). Her weapon is also less impactful (for her) than her constellations

[feral forge]

also i was wonderin how to balance her er with the sig wep (which i wont get) cuz its really hard

[copper mist]

ER sands usually

[feral forge]

i know but that leads to lesser hp for me

[copper mist]

Well... Yeah

[jolly junco]

ER requirements will depend on your team but It'd often be using ER sands yeah, and potentially several substats too

[feral forge]

ye several er substat rolls leads to lesser cv which leads to lesser dpr

[fallen topaz]

What build should I run on Jean in this team? Burst support or EM?

[jolly junco]

Hmm not necessarily, because the weapon itself is giving a lot of CV

Getting enough ER to burst every rotation is vital

It's just about stat balancing

[copper mist]

Her sig is still a dps increase over a fav build with HP sands or something for sure.

[feral forge]

true but then id have to go for hp circlet with good cv and er to balance it out

[jolly junco]

Why a HP circlet?

[copper mist]

You would still use a crit circlet

[feral forge]

i was thinkin of that cuz her wep substat has more cdmg than a criclet so a good circlet with enough cv and er would be cool to balance the hp and er and overall cv

[jolly junco]

Since you don't have the weapon yet I'd suggest just not pulling the banner

[keen willow]

Er

[feral forge]

ye was thinkin of that as well

ill just spend the rest of the primos i save this banner for her const

[jolly junco]

You can use a HP circlet but Crit is generally better regardless of weapon

[feral forge]

cuz i think after that im gonna save for Daddy

[keen willow]

Yea I dont think crit has diminishing returns

[feral forge]

i mean Father

[fallen topaz]

What about Circlet and Goblet?

[keen willow]

Whats your weapon

[feral forge]

so a dip in hp wudnt hurt the dmg as compared to cv?

[fallen topaz]

Fav

[keen willow]

Hmm crit circlet and whatever goblet you have better substats with

[copper mist]

CV almost never meets the relative diminishing returns that other stats do.

[fallen topaz]

Anemo, Atk or EM?

[keen willow]

Idk i don't have jean

[copper mist]

You basically need 100% crit rate and ~250 crit damage until MAYBE a roll of attack/hp/whatever becomes comparatively more valuable than another crit roll.

and even then, usually not the case.

[jolly junco]

Well both HP and Crit are important, but there isn't specific amounts you need to get

I've seen some people say aim for 40k HP minimum on Furina which is just BS really

[copper mist]

That is indeed bullshit

Useless rule of thumb cuz you're not at all considering her ER needs

[feral forge]

intereseting cuz when yelly was out with aqua there was a wholeass essay that hp above 35k for her has diminishin returns over cv

[copper mist]

It's nice cuz it maxes out her A4 Ig but yeah

[jolly junco]

True diminishing returns only applies to EM in genshin. It's more about balancing stats

[copper mist]

Yeah, I call that relative diminishing returns but the "correct" terminology would be something like opportunity cost.

[jolly junco]

since offensive stats are multiplied with each other

[copper mist]

Every roll of anything benefits you, but it's just, certain rolls benefit you more than others.

[feral forge]

true its just that certain charas have certain specific limits on their kit that often has a limit and hence that roll value becomes more valuable so im a bit confused as to what actually leads to diminishing returns

[copper mist]

Only EM has real diminishing returns like Lemon said and yeah certain characters stop benefitting from stats after a certain amount via their ascension passives. The harshest diminishing returns I can think of is EM on Nahida past 1000

[noble vale]

Can I use the healer and the shield for Hu Tao in case there’s another ||archon quest boss that’s gonna be challenging I was at the whale part and thought I was doomed without the healer so I’m going to do the finale later||

[feral forge]

right

[jolly junco]

Well sure you can just put some more defensive utility on your team, DPS checks rarely exist outside of Spiral Abyss so it doesn't matter if you defeat the enemies a little slower

[opal surge]

Is MH Hu Taos best set if played with furina?

[olive isle]

yea probably

[jolly junco]

Pretty sure it is yes

[feral forge]

dontcha need soss for that? but either way ye i heard so

[small blade]

Why soss?

[olive isle]

the hp drain is fast enough to maintain 3 stacks

[opal surge]

I dont have homa so I dont lose homa value

[jolly junco]

I was getting some interesting MH builds in the optimizer

[noble vale]

Anyway I put Kokomi just in case well not for spiral abyss

[keen willow]

How i want furina now

[copper mist]

The EM goblet omegalul

[olive isle]

not at all, building soss will just make you ignore crit rate substats and give you some em

then here comes em/hp/crit

[feral forge]

i see

[jolly junco]

Outside of Abyss that's fine yeah. Use Xingqiu with her if you have him, he provides damage reduction and stagger resistance outside of just good damage and hydro application. Xingqiu + a good shielder should be comfortable with Hu Tao for staying alive, instead of Kokomi

[feral forge]

why hp tho

[noble vale]

Yeah I have Xingqiu

[olive isle]

furina’s fanfare dmg bonus at lv 10 can surpass even a goblet’s dmg bonus and you also keep her burst

[jolly junco]

Yup, I had her on providing 100 DMG%, which would now be 124% because I got C3

[olive isle]

and diminishing returns also happen with dmg bonus

[noble vale]

Yeah I think shielder helped

[pastel zealot]

why am i only getting small chests in avidya forest ;-;

[feral forge]

i see

[copper mist]

Wait, her C3 also increases her max amount of stacks??

[copper mist]

Sumeru curse

[noble vale]

I would just use the healer outside of it in case enemies will have serious damage lol

[jolly junco]

No, it increases the value of the DMG% each stack provides

[pastel zealot]

:<

[copper mist]

Oh right lol I'm dumb,

[pastel zealot]

that's just for avidya forest right

[keen willow]

Just kill the enemies before they hit you

[jolly junco]

So yeah, 0.31*400 = 124

[noble vale]

I have 2 shielders of cryo and geo

[noble vale]

Alr

[copper mist]

Shibaaal it's so good

[jolly junco]

It is good yeah

[noble vale]

Zhongli a shielder but the best one?

[jolly junco]

With Hu Tao, yeah

[noble vale]

That’s really good

Wish I rolled him

[small blade]

Layla is also a pretty good shielder for her

[copper mist]

Shielder's for wusses

[noble vale]

Yep

But her build ain’t the best

[copper mist]

What is this build

4 diff artifact sets, Iron Sting?

[noble vale]

Well about Xingqiu

[steady shuttle]

How much ER for shenhe?

[keen willow]

Is that hutaos old artifacts

[noble vale]

Yeah

[keen willow]

[noble vale]

I don’t have so many artifacts R.I.P.

[keen willow]

Well shimenawa your best friend

[noble vale]

Doing only 160 resins ain’t enough

[jolly junco]

The KQM guide provides some calculated averages https://keqingmains.com/shenhe/#Shenhe_Energy_Requirements
But it's better to check the energy recharge calculator for your own specific team

[olive isle]

Rainbow set

[keen willow]

Its not rainbow

[olive isle]

the first one ofc

[keen willow]

[olive isle]

and then 2-way vape xingqiu

[pastel zealot]

pls tell me that avidya is the only region within sumeru that is flooded with common chests

[keen willow]

C6 benne surely

[olive isle]

okay whip furina, atk atk crit, c6 bennett, then xl with slightly higher than normal er

[pastel zealot]

or is it not

[copper mist]

Sumeru has like... What feels like 90% common chest

Trend from Inazuma

[pastel zealot]

damn what..

[copper mist]

But there is a lot of them, still the most primogems from a single region in Sumeru

Fontaine has WAY less chests but also way less commons

[keen willow]

Exploring sumeru gave me cancer

[pastel zealot]

then how the hell would i be able to get like 50-60 wishes from sumeru desert

[copper mist]

Because there are a lot of chests

[pastel zealot]

or like 2k primos from one area

[keen willow]

You'd be lucky to get 100 primos from one area

[pastel zealot]

damn what

[olive isle]

sumeru has aranara, jeht, liloupar, and sorush, but i can’t really handle sumeru exploration

[pastel zealot]

wow what

[analog rapids]

exploring sumeru now is like a whole new experience,
pre-underground map is just deth

[pastel zealot]

are the patch primo calculations with 2k primos including world quests

[feral forge]

i dont like deserts and its really horrible exploring

[opal surge]

nvm I misremembered its 300

but the areas are averaging like 150+

[pastel zealot]

ic

[opal surge]

from what im seeing rn

[keen willow]

Yea its the world quests that just are impossible to sit through

[opal surge]

Would Noelle Yelan Furina Kazuha be decent as a team? Wondering if I wanna build noelle

[jolly junco]

It'll be decent but hmm personally wouldn't use Noelle atp since her personal damage will be limited

But sure if you just wanna play Noelle you can put her in that team with Fav and 4pc Archaic petra, she can be an on-fielder driver and healer

[pastel zealot]

how many primos can i get from avidya forest?(approx.)

[opal surge]

I see, I guess all onfield team healers would be fine in that slot then

Barbara Driver

[jolly junco]

Some better than others, but yeah

Kokomi would be the best, since she would contribute meaingful personal damage too

[opal surge]

sadly dont have kokomi, dont have jean either so Im looking into some more janky furina teams

[jolly junco]

C1 Neuvillette?

[opal surge]

nah but im quite confortable personally to play neuv without a shield

[pastel zealot]

is it still true that you'd be able to get 50-60 wishes from sumeru forest chests

[opal surge]

but I guess hes losing quite some damage% from not having 3 reactions

[jolly junco]

28% charged attack damage (not dmg%)

[opal surge]

Currently liking furina alot in quickbloom and hutao, but wanna see if I can do some more fun teams with her

Yeah true

[noble vale]

Hey is this a good team right? I’ve been using this team for a while

[jolly junco]

Neuv, Furina, Charlotte, Kazuha is decent but will be less comfortable to play at C0 Neuvi (damage aside)

[keen willow]

Its fine

[opal surge]

I might give that a shot, ty

[jolly junco]

I guess you could also try Hu Tao, Furina, Yelan/Xingqiu, Sayu - with Sayu being a copium Jean

[opal surge]

I was thinking about that team too, but I was told Sayus healing is sus to sustain furina

I played it a bit with bennet instead of anemo and that felt alright, but bennet furina rotation seems a bit awkward

[jolly junco]

It is a bit sus but she also provides VV

[opal surge]

did good damage though

[jolly junco]

Alternatively you can just Neuvi, Kazuha, Furina, Zhongli and deal with less/slower accumulation of fanfare points

[opal surge]

i tried that a little bit and it felt worse than just playing fischl but maybe its because my neuvi is pretty poorly built and my fischl has one of my best sets

I think for me personally fischl is contributing way more to teamdamage than she should be doing because my neuv is doing fuckall

[jolly junco]

[noble vale]

I’ve heard Hu Tao with Xingqiu, Yelan and Zhongli are very good

[jolly junco]

It is good, yeah

Good mixture of high damage with high comfort

[noble vale]

I really wish I have Yelan and Zhongli damn I have to wait for their reruns

[feral forge]

wdym very good thats the only team thats been carryin me so hard in abyss its excellent 😤

[noble vale]

I like the sound of being excellent

[pastel zealot]

whens the main event coming?

[craggy siren]

surely soon

[feral forge]

ye boi its really comfy and no thinkin just kapow

[jolly junco]

Btw if you have leftover primos Baizhu is worth considering, he opens up a lot of Dendro teams with Furina (could do Alhaitham, Furina, Baizhu, Kuki Quickbloom for example)

[noble vale]

Dope

[faint linden]

Balls

[feral forge]

i dont have leftover but i do have baizhu

[jolly junco]

Nice

[feral forge]

no no not nice i coulda have gotten eula without wishin for him

but it is what it is

[pastel zealot]

should i explore sumeru or do aranara first?

[jolly junco]

Preferences aside, Baizhu is much better than Eula

[feral forge]

do the aranara just for the treasure filled room

[copper mist]

You should first progress the aranara quest yeah

[feral forge]

ye true

[pastel zealot]

hmm ok

[jolly junco]

Understandable

[copper mist]

Because then you can do all of the aranara stuff you come accross during exploration

[feral forge]

[pastel zealot]

the aranara quest gives like 10 wishes?
i heard that from someone

[copper mist]

Eventually but it's probably the most time consuming quest in Genshin

[feral forge]

its a longass quest ya better be ready

[copper mist]

If you don't count quests you have to wait irl days for that is

[feral forge]

dirge bilqis aint the longest?

[copper mist]

Doubt it's longer than 100% aranara

[opal surge]

I'm doing it with yaoyao instead of baizhu to cope since I needed 170 pulls to get one copy of furina and don't have anything left anymore

[feral forge]

right searchin for the damned fungi was long

[opal surge]

But I'm quite happy that I don't necessarily have to save for nahihi anymore ever since furina quickbloom has become the alternative for haitham

[pastel zealot]

damn

[copper mist]

Yao Yao is good tho it's just that she needs to use her burst in Furina teams

[pastel zealot]

alr

[copper mist]

But in teams where that's fine Yao Yao is just a really good team member

[pastel zealot]

imma do other stuff along with aranara ig

[opal surge]

Yeah she's good, it's just baizhu seems more ideal

For haitham quickbloom with furina

[pastel zealot]

what does that mean btw

[copper mist]

Some quests don't progress until the daily reset

[pastel zealot]

ohh

[copper mist]

So you can't just speedrun in one day, you have to do a bit then wait a real day

[paper cargo]

Which one's better?

[pastel zealot]

here i come bby

[small blade]

gl

[pastel zealot]

boutta be more depressing than when i try to solve maths

[copper mist]

Rana

she boutta sleep, sleepy bitch

[copper mist]

Use optimizer tbh. Extremely hard to tell from this

[pastel zealot]

ive barely just started and yet the way rana walks is already making me laugh

Like wth bro why u walking like u sneakin

[copper mist]

Definitely what this channel is intended for

[pastel zealot]

i swear yes

[copper mist]

👍

[pastel zealot]

i will most likely be posting questions one after another

[copper mist]

Just listen to YouTube video on ur phone or something

[pastel zealot]

hmm ok then

[copper mist]

Watch Matt Orchard Crime & Society

[pastel zealot]

seems pretty interesting
ill give that that

basically random videos about general knowledge
i love this
either this or I watch zyox videos and drain my sanity

[opal surge]

which one do you guys like more

[craggy siren]

1st one

a bit lower hp and cd but more er and cr

[pastel zealot]

but 2nd more hp tho

[craggy siren]

but the 1st one would be more consistent, both in crits and in getting burst back

[opal surge]

[pastel zealot]

true..

[craggy siren]

i'm at 73 pity in on furina now, i can get to soft pity today

[copper mist]

It's not random it'a usually about crime

Lawsuits and investigations

[tawny vigil]

how much cr do ineed on furina i have 120 ;-;

[copper mist]

Depends on the rest of your build

Obviously never go beyond 100% crit rate

But you wanna balance crit rate/crit damage

[reef comet]

100/50 (rel)

[copper mist]

I realized I only had one deepwood set and it was triple EM

So I am playing Haitham without deepwood on the team pog

[paper cargo]

Are these decent stats?

[copper mist]

Need to farm HP set for Baizhu

[copper mist]

Talents

[reef comet]

5p set bonus

[copper mist]

Lie.

[reef comet]

Lie.

e

[paper cargo]

Oh yeah I haven't really used her yet apart from putting her in dailies team, gonna level them up I have 200 of each book prefarmed 🥲

[stark escarp]

Is cash flow supervision good on neuvilette?

[paper cargo]

Okay, how much should I aim for? I might run her with neuvillette if they're good together

[copper mist]

It's not better than prototype amber

Iirc

[stark escarp]

Ok is jadefalls splendor better?

[copper mist]

Similar to prototype amber... Please don't pull that piece of crap

[reef comet]

all pretty much the same, but use prototype because er

[copper mist]

If you wanna get a weapon for neuvi just wait for his own cmon

[stark escarp]

I got it along with furinas weapon

[copper mist]

Oh

[stark escarp]

So is it good or better than prototype amber or is it useless

[reef comet]

equal

just use it

[copper mist]

Then yeah it's similar to Prototype amber, probably slightly better...? But no team heals

[stark escarp]

So no need for me to farm materials for c5 prototype amber good thanks

[reef comet]

almost an epic fail

[rancid slate]

i need help with alhaitham and furina teams

[copper mist]

Okay, ask away. Also where is your pfp from

[reef comet]

alhaitham, baizhu, kuki, furina

[compact crest]

is r1 skyward spine better on raiden than catch?

[rancid slate]

the internet

[copper mist]

Artist

[reef comet]

yes, if you can utilize it's passive

[reef storm]

need red film asia

[tawny vigil]

how do i build that one shot mona build, the one with kazuha and bennet

[copper mist]

Found it via reverse image searching, but okay what help do you need with Haitham

[rancid slate]

these are my current characters

[copper mist]

You want a team for Haitham and Furina with those? Hmm.

[reef comet]

ttds 4p instructor

[rugged sparrow]

do you have to ask this every time

[rancid slate]

yea

[jolly junco]

Jerry evil arc began since the blubbening

[rancid slate]

i'll build the characters later

[copper mist]

You don't have Baizhu or Nahida, this is kinda tough ngl

[tawny vigil]

whats ttds

[rugged sparrow]

thrilling tales of dragon slayer, a 3-star catalyst

[reef comet]

so true, imagine killing the first blub without knowing you've killed it

[tawny vigil]

wait whats the difference between nuke and burst supp then

[rancid slate]

what about yaoyao

[rugged sparrow]

devil im gonna smear your blood in the walls

[rugged sparrow]

nuke is Mona's personal dmg

[tawny vigil]

o thx

[jolly junco]

'Nuke' does some damage, 'Burst Support' is just for supportive capabilities

[copper mist]

Yeah Yao Yao is basically your last remaining option lol. But then it's kinda hard to say what electro unit you should use. Ig you can Kuki or Raiden

But you gotta burst on Yao Yao to heal everyone in between rotations or somehow fit it in the rotation

[rancid slate]

the way you worded that kinda sounds like kuki and raiden are copium so now i'm confused

[tawny vigil]

alhaitham xq raiden yaoyao?

[copper mist]

Those are good it's just Yao Yao is tough to make work in that team

[tawny vigil]

or xq yelan and kuki

[tawdry oasis]

is this the max of level hydroculus in 4.2?

[rancid slate]

i want furina to be in it

[tawny vigil]

o

[rancid slate]

yelan and xq are occupied as well

[craggy siren]

yeah

[jolly junco]

Kuki or Raiden are not copium, Alhaitham + Furina Quickbloom without Baizhu or Nahida is cope

[tawdry oasis]

tyy

[copper mist]

Yeah that's basically what it comes down to

[rancid slate]

well yeah, coping with the fact that i don't have baizhu and couldn't get nahida in both of her reruns is partially why i'm here help

[copper mist]

I wouldn't really recommend you play them together but if you wanna force it you basically have to extend your rotations with Yao Yao

Or go super dank and play Prototype amber lisa or some shit

[swift forge]

umm what are the ball shaped teyvat products ?

[jolly junco]

You could just play different teams no? You don't need to force Furina with Alhaitham

[rancid slate]

i just want a furina team for my second half

[copper mist]

You can make a diff one without Haitham then

Bennett Jean Raiden Furina is pretty cool

[rancid slate]

such as

[tawny vigil]

does artfifact matter on mona or its fine if i just slap on the set

[rancid slate]

but isn't that 2 healers

[tawny vigil]

isnt that sunfire

[copper mist]

If you wanna make her buff your team use instructor or noblesse

[copper mist]

Yeah

[tawny vigil]

ye im using instructor, do i need to upghrade it tho

[swift forge]

benny cant overheal

[rancid slate]

oh to give furina some vapes then

[copper mist]

You do need enough ER on her so if you need more ER then yes

[copper mist]

Yeah furina vapes and Raiden does Raiden stuff helping with energy and getting buffed by bennett and furina it's pretty pog

[rancid slate]

in that case, should my benny use instructor or keep using oblige

[copper mist]

Can use either

Instructor maybe slightly more worth in that team

[tawny vigil]

yo how do u getinstructor set

[copper mist]

But if you don't have a good set of it just don't bother

[rancid slate]

i can finally unbench my raiden

[copper mist]

Drops from doing overworld bosses and some domains but don't farm specifically for it

[copper mist]

Yay

[tawny vigil]

ok ty

[copper mist]

General rule for instructor just check instructor pieces you get in the future and lock ones with ER sub and/or crit rate if you wanna proc fav

[rancid slate]

wait would this be better or worse compared to that raiden team?

[copper mist]

I wouldn't wanna play it cuz it seems boring as hell but it's also a good team

[rancid slate]

dw i hecking love ayato but i just want to know whether it's better or not than the previous one you recommended

[jolly junco]

What about Raiden, Furina, Yelan, Jean instead

If you like Ayato tho though that team works fine

[rancid slate]

yelan is busy with hu tao

[copper mist]

But muh sunfire

[rancid slate]

but is it better than raiden - furina - bennet - jean?

[jolly junco]

Not sure really, shouldn't be too different clear-time wise unless your Raiden is C2+

[copper mist]

Kinda depends on your investment

The Raiden team does worse in aoe than the Ayato team prob

But they're just both good

[slender adder]

what build shld i use for dps furina crazy ik

[rancid slate]

she's c0 the catch

[copper mist]

Should be fine for clearing abyss