┊・just-chatting

[gleaming orchid]

Are there any other recommended resources / training material to review before taking the certified data admin exam? (Already went over the cluster / data prot. fundamentals listed)

[mild hazel]

NS0-162?

[gleaming orchid]

Yeah

[mild hazel]

6+ months of day to day admin helps with that cert.

it's not written to any specific doc or class either.

basic hybrid cloud knowledge is helpful as well.

I did a blog a few years back as to how we write the exams - some folks find it helpful to understand how the tests are actually written before they take it.

https://spindleninja.org/2020/05/15/certifications-being-a-sme/

[edgy zinc]

awww all of my fav ppl are on that thumbnail @mild hazel

[mild hazel]

Indeed. 🙂

[gleaming orchid]

I have a little over a year on an A250, but with exams I always overthink the material. Like if they decide to ask, if it's a tuesday and you have 3 AFF A900s, what is the color of the SSD's PCB?

[mild hazel]

lol. :). we don't have questions like that.

[fresh helm]

Purple, because aliens don't wear hats.

[mild hazel]

The questions on the offical practice test are actually from the test writing sessions. they're not just made up as examples.

[gleaming orchid]

Yeah, with the learning center stuff the questions are clear. I am used to ISC tier "everything is technically correct but only one thing is 'isc correct'" Thank you!

[fast needle]

Has the Learning Center crew ever explored a top tier cert with a practical portion akin to VCDX and CCIE? I can imagine what a heavy lift that is

[mild hazel]

That's been talked about several times. and a few A-Teamers push it when we have writing sessions/meetings with NLS.

[fast needle]

I got CCNP en route to CCIE 20 years ago but bailed because of the hardware lab requirement. In todays world you could sim it all virtually

[runic thorn]

Do you still have any certifications with numbered diplomas embedded in glass? 😛 (Think I still have one of them somewhere. Can't remember what it was for, though..)

[mild hazel]

Last bit of swag folks got I think was the pins at INSIGHT

[runic thorn]

How the times have changed..... :/

[mild hazel]

what year was that? early 2010s?

[runic thorn]

Just checked. Dublin, 2012

[hearty perch]

Not all of them

[hearty perch]

Would you like an intro to Eva and join the program with us? She’s doing a great job of reimagining the whole lot end to end.

[edgy zinc]

no not all of them your right @hearty perch

[hearty perch]

My first Insight was 2009 in Athens. Was before they started inviting customers along. Think I’ve only missed one since then

[fast needle]

What was the one in LA? I think that was 2009 as well

My SE took me and I met Jennifer Edgell the first time. She was our resident Exchange expert and she helped me devise a Snapmangler for Exchange plan as we were virtualizing Exch.

Oh the good ol days

I told her that at Cisco Live last month, that she was the first person I interacted with at NetApp and we had a fun trip down memory lane

[runic thorn]

Was that the one where we were all evacuated into the street? Fire alert or something

[hearty perch]

Bomb scare, but yes

Then there were some protests the night of the offsite event so the busses couldn’t get to the venue

[runic thorn]

Somewhere I have a photo of Acropolis, mirrored in the glass face of the builings during the evacuation.
The world was a crazy place then as well

I kindof liked the events more before customers were invited. The presenters wasnt always the most ... energetic personalities, but comments like "good question. I remember thinking when I wrote the code....." were epic! 😛

[hearty perch]

I think there is probably room for different types of events for different audiences. Mind you I don’t work in that department so don’t quote me on anything. But I think the world has changed significantly the last few years, maybe smaller more frequent and more geographically dispersed events are a good thing. Less global travel, more local resources getting to participate, less expenses for attendees. Add to that everything that can be done with Hybrid events like Q&A/Panels etc here in discord and I think the future could be a bright one

[fast needle]

We have some surprises in store for all of you in a few weeks for VMworld! #StayTuned

[cursive cove]

Hello everyone

[fast needle]

Hello @cursive cove!

[runic thorn]

Is there a procedure for "joining" customer accounts?
We have a few customers that have changed names, and so new equipment are registered to the new name, and old systems on the old account. Also the customers user accounts are registered to the old name, so they are unable to see new systems on NOW.
I'm afraid I'll mess up entitlements if I start opening cases to reassign systems.
-I'm working for a NetApp partner/reseller

[fresh helm]

Open a "non-technical" case. If you'll sign-in to the support site first, you'll see a lot more category options available. There are two or three that fit what you're describing, so pick the best-fit.
https://mysupport.netapp.com/site/help

[runic thorn]

I've done that in the past, but had to open cases for each individual system. Might be ~30 systems in total.
Maybe I'll wait til the lady that does our renewals are back from vacation.

[fresh helm]

I don't want you to have to open 30 cases either! It might be quicker to wait.

[runic thorn]

Also, we need to move the customers user accounts at the same time. Their email is still the same, but should connect to another company name

[mild hazel]

Do any of them have a SAM/.

?

other option is work through your TPM and see if they ccan work through the bulk change.

[half flame]

Any tips for a small new company aiming to become a partner and eventually provide basic through advanced deployments? I’ve got NCDA, NCSIE, and I’m training a second employee to get those certs

Not really interested in reselling hardware/software just providing PS. Our companies’ only revenue atm is through Website Solutions for Small Businesses

[hearty perch]

Which region are you in? Maybe we can find the right contacts to put you in touch with.

[quartz veldt]

I'd suggest heading over to https://www.netapp.com/partners/#become , regardless of what partner program you want to be apart of you will be asked to fill in this form - https://netapp.tap.thinksmart.com/prod/Portal/ShowWorkFlow/AnonymousEmbed/26c8b2c2-68d6-4b30-b522-a81075a97c56

Request will get routed to the local channel mgmt folks to review etc 🙂

[half flame]

@hearty perch I am in AMER conveniently located in Ashburn. I've got experience with deployments as an employee for an existing CDP though was the only one in the area (Which I still find unfathomable) @quartz veldt thank you for the resource. I have taken a look before and am going to apply soon. I am just concerned about how it might look being a newly established company. Thanks again for your help!

[quartz veldt]

@half flame As you're more interested in CDP side of things, someone on this Discord from AMER can hopefully put you in touch with the right people. Filling in that form should also get you in touch with the right folks.

[fast needle]

Let's give a big NetApp welcome to members of The Pub community joining us! Excited to consolidate these two great communities!

[signal phoenix]

Now I have a legitimate reason to stare at discord at work!

[fast needle]

Don't forget to do the thing that was mentioned in the Slack post 🤐

[silver sail]

Is there a procedure to attach a NetApp logo to a profile?

[fast needle]

#╭・getting-started message

[silver sail]

I'm a NetApp employee, writing Ansible modules for ONTAP and others.

[runic thorn]

I'm with a NetApp partner, working with filers since they could be booted from just one floppy...

[fast needle]

Toasters!

[autumn belfry]

I don't understand how Discord is a better fit for this than Slack. This is just requiring that I have a separate app up, in addition to the one that I'm likely to already use for work. It probably just means I'll never be here

[runic thorn]

I mostly just use the web client for Discord

[autumn belfry]

sure. whichever. it's still effectively a separate thing.

[hearty perch]

Slack have been making a lot of changes as they struggle to become sustainable as a business, one of those most recent changes would mean that there would be no history over 90 days available in the slack we used. That isn't a limitation here.

We also have a lot more interactive features in this platform, the ability to do stage channels, host watch parties, do panel sessions, have live Q&A sessions on launches.

More and more open communities are having to abandon slack because it is becoming a difficult to use platform for those not willing to pay for it as an enterprise tool.

[autumn belfry]

NetApp low on cash, then?

but okay. Just means I won't be here unless I have a specific question. (I'm sure you're all crying at the loss.)

[fast needle]

It’s not about cash and it’s not about numbers. It’s about bringing two similar communities together in the same place that has a future. There are things that Discord does that Slack doesn’t. And rather than make multiple investments and split-brain things, we opted to bring the ~100 actually active users from Slack over here. I’m sorry if it’s a disappointment, but we’ve got some bigger exciting plans for The Pub and wanted to integrate. I think if you give it a chance, you’ll find similar kinds of people helping people conversations happening over here.

[hearty perch]

It's also about how communities change with time, I've been around long enough that I remember being on BBS, IRC, then vBulletin/PHPbb, plus a whole myriad of things in between then and now. Discord is where people are already gathering, the coding group I am in has 110K users with 20K active at any one time. Similar story for the SRE/DevOps groups I am a part of. A lot of the modern tech stack folks have already settled here and that is a good barometer for where things are headed.

[edgy zinc]

BBS rocked back in the day

[fast needle]

vBulletin… that is a name I have not heard for an age.

[delicate ledge]

There's some cobwebs on them brain cells.

[hearty perch]

I think I still have a couple of active vBB sites out there

[edgy zinc]

https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/wdprs/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/techware.png

[hearty perch]

I get that change is always uncomfortable, but sometimes its necessary

[runic thorn]

I remember converting to aggregates and FlexVols was taxing as well...

[hearty perch]

I think, and this is only my opinion, the driving force of Discord in tech has been that people in the technology space are often associated with adjacent communities already, so gaming, live streaming, content creation, programming, home automation, open source projects, block chain (the list is endless), most of those communities are already here and have been here since the platform started. So since I was already here for my gaming guilds and my consumer tech interests, it just became easier to find more communities here that fit the goals I had. The user model here is much easier for me personally, its one account, its tied to me and I can join whatever communities I want, I don't have to sign up each time, I don't have to remember oh which email was I invited to that Slack group again now. With the recent per server user profiles I can also keep things pretty well organised across what I do for my work and what I do for my hobbies.

[autumn belfry]

I don't give a damn about "change". I give a damn about the fact that, since I have Slack open all the time for work communication, using Slack to interact with NetApp is virtually zero friction. Now I have to open up an additional app, and an app that is likely to be viewed as a gaming app at that. ("Hey, wfaulk, what's this you have open that says 'Playing Counter-Strike', 'Playing Borderlands', 'Playing Genshin Impact', 'Playing Hearthstone', 'Playing League of Legends', 'Playing World of Warcraft', and 'Playing Overwatch' on it?")

But you made your decision (just like NetApp support made their decision to require that I interact with email in order to log into the support site) and there's certainly nothing I can do to change your mind. I just think it's a dumb choice and that you should know that.

[fast needle]

Is there anything I can do to change yours?

Is there an opportunity for that?

[hearty perch]

This is sad, I really liked the idea https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-kills-optane-memory-business-for-good, wonder what will take its place, I know there’s work on going with CXL as more of an industry standard

[dry herald]

Optane was cool for niches, Intel spent so much that they have to try to sell it to masses and that made no sense

[hearty perch]

I think they missed the mark not continuing it and pivoting it in the HEDT market

Gamers would have benefited, content creators editing large video files etc.

Even software builds benefit from it as far as the testing I had done in the past.

[dry herald]

Gamers have 1500-5000Mb/sec nvme ssds and 32-64GB RAM.

Adding a new component type that displaces storage probably doesn’t excite much

[hearty perch]

It’s more about adjacency, which is why Nvidia and others are working on things like Direct Storage Access for GPUs. The benefits of Optane for end users were around one less hop in the chain to get data to the right place. CXL and the Direct Storage APIs will resolve a lot of that going forward though

[signal phoenix]

Holy cow, what is going to happen to VAST.
Their entire platform is built off of optane and qlc ssd's

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-girl-cute-child-slide-gif-15242274

[viscid stump]

Tips of best place to learn about Netapp and Spot to prep for an interview?

[quartz veldt]

Beyond trawling the documentation you can look at,

There is a section on NetApp TV with a bunch of SPOT related content - https://www.netapp.tv/cloud?mcid=91161331710227571031226952374615371287

Some case studies documented here https://www.netapp.com/customers/netapp-it-spot/

[eager bolt]

Master of 7mode ontap.. please dm me.. have a few question lol 🙂

[dry herald]

Hi @eager bolt feel free to just ask in #╰・software and we can all try to help then

[steep glade]

Hi all! Trident dev here, just moving over from Slack 😄

[mild hazel]

Greetings

[delicate ledge]

You can set it up to interact with your organization's SSO.

[fresh helm]

^ good point. Check out the identity federation section of the SSO FAQ:
https://kb.netapp.com/Advice_and_Troubleshooting/Miscellaneous/FAQs_for_NetApp_adoption_of_MS_Azure_AD_B2C_for_login#What_is_Identity_Federation.3F

[dry herald]

@twin flint probably a better place, but have you seen the new SE/30 motherboard PCBs you can get from Kai Robinson?

[twin flint]

I have! Pretty amazing stuff in that vintage hobbyist market.

No big deal if my SE mobo isn't repairable.

(I have an SE/30 that is ok, last I knew...)

[dry herald]

@twin flint I’m in Perth Western Australia and I spent a while looking for an SE/30.. location is important since shipping is a great way to end up with a broken tube and there’s no other cities nearby. In a one year period, one came on sale here and it was about USD$800

I passed on that and kept looking.. then I had a friend randomly reach out and ask if I wanted one that a friend of theirs was looking to give away, and I got one for nothing! And a few months earlier I’d ended up with a bunch of ADB keyboards, including two which were the right ones for it- I gave one to a guy starting a Mac museum on the other side of Australia, so now I have my white whale of old Macs 😉

On my birthday last year I was working and out at a University I deal with for NetApp and had a friend who works there message me and ask if I’d like a Mac classic new-in-box that he’d found.. I think he was a bit surprised how quickly I showed up, since he didn’t know I was on campus at the time. Unfortunately the analog board was totally dead.. I’ve recapped it, but still no good. That’ll be a project for another day I suspect.

[twin flint]

Nice! Yeah I got most my vintage computers back in the day when they were cheap - or even trash. I did recently spend close to real money for a NeXT Cube - that’s the other thing awaiting repair on my bench now.

[dry herald]

ooh nice! when I worked at that uni, I was involved with the computer club - they had/have a nextstation. And two BeBoxes

I have one of them at my house right now, I've been trying to coax it back to life - it apparently died in about 1999.. I've got it back to showing a boot logo at least - I need to get back to making a bootable hard drive

I got a dump of the right one for it apparently (it's a pre-prod prototype, so the versions of BeOS that run on the production ones won't boot on it), but couldn't get it to boot.. a friend tried it and found he needed to do byte order swapping for dd.

[hollow raft]

Hi guys, just wondering where you can see the size of your volume snapshot?

[mild hazel]

snapshot show ?

or DF

[hollow raft]

Let me check

[fiery matrix]

Will I get the Ransom ware feature by default if I am upgrading from Ontap 9.8 to 9.11?

Also is there any document proof of the same?

[mild hazel]

it's an add on license. but yeah the feature is there.

[dry herald]

No, it is a seperate license you need to purchase first included on 9.10 systems - https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/anti-ransomware/index.html#what-ontap-anti-ransomware-detects

[fresh helm]

Yooooo -- Join us over in the Hang Space for the first round of Open Office Hours! (post-event edit: We'll see you next week!)

[fast needle]

Have a great weekend everyone! 🤘

[half flame]

Anyone else having issues reaching support.netapp.com or just me

[fresh helm]

checking

[half flame]

Seems like we’re back up

[fresh helm]

Works here too 🙂

[half flame]

Thanks for checking

[fresh helm]

No problem

[pseudo gorge]

greetings!

[delicate ledge]

Howdy!

[fast needle]

Welcome aboard!

[pseudo gorge]

Great email about discord today Nick - nice to see this server

[strange iris]

NetApp - I love this company!

[pseudo gorge]

Neto!

[fast needle]

Fixed you guys up 😉

[pseudo gorge]

ooh! cool

ty

[mild hazel]

NETO!

[hearty perch]

Welcome!!

[pseudo gorge]

👋

[coarse bluff]

Haven't been here in a while. Thanks @fast needle for the email to motivate me!

[weak depot]

🖐️

[sterile verge]

Time to get on board! Happy to see so many familiar names 😁

[hoary canyon]

Whoot whoot, even Joost is here! 😉

[vernal iron]

Hey NL team!
Ugh, I don't want to change Discord to my real name though...do I need a separate account? 😛

[hearty perch]

There are per server profiles now, so you can make the change just here and it won’t be seen anywhere else

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-welcome-to-the-team-minions-gif-21749603

Welcome aboard to everyone that's joined lately! If you're NetApp Staff, be sure to check in with @fresh helm or myself to get your Staff badge, and keep an eye on Events at the top of the list and RSVP to the things you'd like to join. This way you get a reminder notification when they start. As we head into VMware Explore, Insight, and AWS re:Invent this fall, we'll be doing lots of fun activities here in Discord you won't want to miss!

[paper fractal]

the minion in the middle needs to lay off the caffeine

[summer jolt]

Hi, Would it be ok to ask for some help with an ontap 8.2 system... not confident with CLI, not sure how to activate webUI management

[fast needle]

Sure thing! Drop it down in #╰・software and I'm sure someone will be right along 🙂

[summer jolt]

Thanks'

[strange iris]

I am chatting with @summer jolt. Thanks, Nick.

[fresh helm]

Raise your hand if you're going to stop in and say hello during Office Hours
Beginning at the top of the hour

[fast needle]

https://www.storagenewsletter.com/2022/08/10/215011-hdds-tested-in-2q22/

[frail trench]

Hello all

[paper fractal]

morning tony

[dry herald]

It’s interesting to see those figures in bulk, but they can feed the brand fanboys. I’ve seen the occasional “waaah we bought a NetApp and it comes with crappy Seagate/WD/Toshiba/etc drives” 😑

All drives fail eventually. Some sooner than others. We balance that risk with software and support contracts

[undone flint]

1 is none, 2 is one

[tribal marlin]

Isn't that like the close door button on the elevator?

[cobalt seal]

@fast needle Hey Nick. How does a fellow NetApp soldier get staff creds?

[fast needle]

#╭・getting-started message 🙂

[delicate ledge]

Howdy!

[fast needle]

Also, I'm affectionately referring to you as Aeon Flux from now on. ❤️

[cobalt seal]

I'll take it! Flux also happens to be the name of my Tesla 😆

@delicate ledge Hey there Mr. Stay in school!

[wanton condor]

**:bar_chart: What genre of music would you like to hear DJ WAFL play on NetApp Radio? **

🇦 Classic Rock
🇧 Pop/Top 100
🇨 Modern Rock/Metal
🇩 Synthwave Mix
🇪 Lo-Fi Chill
🇫 Soundtracks/Classical

[crimson sinew]

C all day long!

[fast needle]

Vote below the poll with the emoji reactions!

(You’re able to vote more than once as well! Choose all that apply!)

[craggy moth]

🤘

Were we supposed to hear music on there? I joined it once and I couldn't hear anything.

[fresh helm]

I just clicked on the NetApp Radio channel and it's playing Coheed and Cambria right now 🙂

[fast needle]

May have been coincidental when I was shifting things around upon first setting it up. It’s all set now. Enjoy!

The plan currently is to rotate certain days based on the voting

[narrow gale]

As long as it's at least on par with the radio stations from Fallout, then we are good here.

[fast needle]

I think Drew would take issue with that

[fresh helm]

I meannn, Diamond City Radio is pretty solid. I love that most of the tracks are real songs.

[quasi pebble]

howdy!

[mild hazel]

hello !

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/forest-gump-wave-hi-hello-howdy-gif-22164679

[haughty bone]

A lil bit about me. I'm preparing for the NSO-162 exam. I am a remote student of Mr. Anderson. I'm here to absorb as much positivity and knowledge as I can.

[fresh helm]

Glad to have you join us!

[haughty bone]

Thanks Drew!

[fast needle]

You're in the right place! Welcome aboard!

[haughty bone]

Thank you Nick!

[mild hazel]

Welcome, good luck with the 162!

[fast needle]

Join us at 10A PDT (about 50 mins) for our weekly Office Hours! It's an open forum for us to receive feedback, share community plans, and any updates that may be on the horizon! https://discord.com/events/855068651522490400/1007154497128235028

[mild hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/let-the-dogs-out-are-you-ready-lets-party-lets-do-this-woof-woof-gif-23684912

[fresh helm]

https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/18/janet_jackson_video_crashes_laptops/

Don't play Janet Jackson too loudly in your data centers

[quartz veldt]

Now I know why my uptime was so bad.

The best was when I found out the high powered fan in my little 1U supermicro server was literally vibrating my sata disks to death. That was fun.

[karmic ermine]

how do you even diagnose that?

[quartz veldt]

We noticed two things, abnormal failure rates, but also poor performance of the disks in the RAID1. Our build logs from when we test and build each server showed the performance of the RAID as fine, but then later on once in DC / Racked performance would drop (and later disks would just fail out of the blue). Was able to reproduce performance issue simply by removing disks out of the chassis whilst still connected and re-running the performance testing and it would be fine. Then you put disks back inside case, close lid, re-test, performance would be trash. Only difference was the chassis, so we then realised that when you close the lid, the heavy duty high speed fan was vibrating the whole chassis (when lid was no). So yeah we then put disks in the chassis again, but turned fan off, and left lid off. No performance issue. Solution was to insert like a rubber layer under the drive then screw drive in. Rubber would absorb all the vibration. Good times.

Supermicro since revised the fan inside that particular model case! 😄

[karmic ermine]

Damn, wonder how many got caught by this.

[quartz veldt]

Yah good question - who knows!

[golden meteor]

Hello everyone! just joined the server.
<@&855078901109227608> can I get an empoyee role?

[hearty perch]

Drop me a message on teams

[dry herald]

Y’all like cats right? 🤣

[quartz veldt]

Chonky fur based storage device.

https://tenor.com/view/corgi-dog-gif-10234136

This is the dog version of the 2TB drive trying to be loaded quickly.

[viscid stump]

What's the advantage of SPOT by NetApp over AWS native Spot Fleets?

[fast needle]

Responded in #┊・hybrid-cloud

[viscid lake]

Hello Team - Happy to joining this Discord ! I'm Mickael - Working at Dell EMC and I would like to obtain more information related to NetApp company/products and Job Opportunies (I think is best place here) - Note : I based in France (EMEA)

[fresh helm]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-anchorman-battle-fight-will-ferrell-gif-21674596

Kidding, of course

It's good to know everyone is watching 😎

[viscid lake]

No worries 🙂 ! I looking for job opportunities ! 😉

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-whos-your-daddy-gif-11193918

[mild hazel]

https://jobs.netapp.com

[fast needle]

https://youtu.be/wKwoBudYIiI

https://tenor.com/view/hga-giraffe-high-giraffe-academy-gif-23886522

[worthy swift]

Ahhhh get to da choppa!

https://tenor.com/view/bell-ring-flex-baywatch-the-rock-dwayne-the-rock-johnson-gif-13186587

Hey everyone - how 'bout them Q1 results, huh?

[craggy moth]

Artemis I We Are Ready

[rain loom]

Not sure why I didn't join until now, but hi! Worked on the E-Series QA side of things for ~19 years, only recently moved over to ONTAP QA land.

[fast needle]

Glad to have ya John! Welcome!

[white nest]

The cool kids must hang out here

[quartz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-gif-24908377

[quartz veldt]

NetApp Radio going heavy atm... just trying to chill at my desk at the office.

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gif-21785724

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-parrot-headbanging-gif-17332910

[quartz veldt]

I don't have the hair or the beard to pull of that headache inducing manoeuvre.

[fast needle]

Fun fact: the first tattoo I ever got was the Godsmack sun logo

[quartz veldt]

Should have a Discord bot that lets us save quotes for the history books !nickfunfacts random quotes.

[fresh helm]

I noticed it got quiet earlier so I decided to press ▶️

[fresh solar]

I know some of you already, but wanted to say Hi as I just joined the Discord. I worked at NetApp for ~7 years and am now at AWS working on the FSx ONTAP product.. 👋

[mild hazel]

Hey Chris! DM me on Teams and I can add your N flair

[fast needle]

Hey Chris!

Welcome!

[fresh solar]

thanks guys! Mike I don't have a NetApp account yet.. still issues with federation apparently

@fast needle that beard deserves its own Discord account 😵

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-welcome-pleasure-keanu-reeves-its-a-pleasure-thank-you-gif-18395277

[mild hazel]

oh i missread. Youre at AWS now. 🙂

[fresh solar]

no worries!

[dry herald]

@fresh solar is originally from Perth too, like me! 😄 but he lives in MA now

[viral hawk]

I'm currently reading MetroCluster's PDF. It's amazing how marketing jargon can say so little with so much text.

[mild hazel]

this one? https://www.netapp.com/pdf.html?item=/media/13481-tr4689.pdf

[dry herald]

We are always open to feedback - can you share the link? We find it important to have documents for different target audiences - there are going to be high level ones for non technical managers and directors, but we also have plenty of in-depth docs on it too

[viral hawk]

Don't have the link, but it's the first chapter here. Not saying it's terrible - other vendor also have the same tendency.

[mild hazel]

The link i posted is the latest version of that.

What are you looking for?

[delicate ledge]

Discord.

[mild hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/malreynolds-firefly-speechless-gif-5332816

[narrow gale]

https://tenor.com/view/im-glad-you-found-it-happy-yay-excited-beau-bennett-gif-15074738

[twin flint]

This summarizes the EMC sales experience, at least if you're an engineer.

[fast needle]

https://octo.vmware.com/seven-new-innovations/

[thorn marsh]

wow, they really just kinda randomly picked out words for that huh

[fast needle]

PSA: No office hours today, as we're all going to be watching the Apple event. We'll be back next week!

[fresh helm]

Surely there are some apple/iphone fans here? What are you excited to see today?

I've gotten a new iphone on launch day for the past 5 years or so... you can probably guess what I'm after 😆

[delicate ledge]

I'll be watching it as part of my work.

I mean they're just releasing the iP14 and Apple watch 8 probably.

[fresh helm]

Rumors for Airpods Pro 2 as well

[fresh helm]

📢 ALERT
Quick note: We're aware of an Azure problem that is preventing some users from logging into NetApp properties via Single Sign-On. You can follow that here: https://status.azure.com/en-us/status

EDIT: Systems are available again for some regions.
EDIT 2: This has been fully resolved.

[dry herald]

Dynamic island is pretty cool on the new iPhone

[fresh helm]

If things go well in the morning, I'll get to experience it next week

[abstract harbor]

Apple won’t send you a charger in a box but NetApp will send you two replacement SFPs in individual boxes 😂

[sterile verge]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-keep-it-safe-secret-lord-of-the-rings-gif-13760065

[fast needle]

New shirts have arrived! Coming soon to a video near you! 🤘

[quartz veldt]

Ooooooooooooooooooooo.

[hollow dagger]

where can i find the topics for the NetApp INSIGHT 2022?

[quartz veldt]

Don't think the agenda is released yet, I know you can register, but that's it for now. No doubt the full schedule of topics and sessions will be released soon. 🙂

[magic crescent]

please someone help NS0-102 exam ........dumps 😪

[fresh helm]

Asking for (or sharing) exam dumps is not allowed.

If you have specific questions about the materials or how to study, that's a welcomed conversation

[magic crescent]

thank you bro.

[mild hazel]

Dumps really don't get you anywhere. Feel free to ask questions though on what Drew mentioned, there are folks in here that are involved in NetApp's test writing process.

[mild hazel]

What info/help are you looking for or struggling with on the test?

[true basin]

Happy Friday ya'll!

https://tenor.com/view/friday-payday-gif-22517567

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-beer-bash-drink-beer-drinking-beer-wwe-gif-16765941

OH HELL YEA!

[narrow gale]

Peace y'all, I'm out.

[fast needle]

PSA: Be sure to keep an eye on the Events module in the top of the channel list over the next few weeks. Some exciting things coming as we ramp up for NetApp INSIGHT 2022 on Nov 1st!

[fast needle]

Thoughts with everyone in central Florida and Ft Myers area this morning! Stay safe!

[true basin]

Good times in the Office Hours hangout today, thanks guys!

[floral smelt]

hello

[fresh helm]

Good mornin'

[real peak]

can you please include timezone information in the Events channel?

[fast needle]

It should represent your local time

[quartz veldt]

Yah was just about to say, I am Singapore based and the event times all show what it will be for my time.

[tawdry mica]

Hi my Name is Jacob bakhtiry from Munich Germany. I am 28 years old and i started my NetApp journey on February of this year in the s3 Academy class 12 as a PSA.

[fresh helm]

Hey Jacob - Glad to have you here in the Discord with us!

[median anvil]

Is anyone else having issues in the support portal? A co-worker and I can't see any of our systems in the profile, and we're being told we're unauthorized for trying to download an ontap update.

[mild hazel]

greetings!

[mild hazel]

seems OK here. check your cookies?

also, which version of ontap?

[median anvil]

I can see my systems now... 9.11.1.P2 is what seems to be current, but it also kicked me back on P1.

[mild hazel]

let me test

[median anvil]

I walked it back to 9.10.1P7, same result. Flushing the browser.

That didn't seem to help the downloads, but I can see my system inventory now. Hmm. I want to say I was able to download an image two weeks ago. Let me reach back to management and poke the business arm of things. Sorry for the trouble.

It'd be really (really) weird that we didn't re-up on support or something. These things are central to our operations.

[fresh helm]

https://kb.netapp.com/Advice_and_Troubleshooting/Miscellaneous/How_to_open_a_non-technical_case

If you want to go ahead and log in to the support site and create a non-tech case, the support team can check into it from our side.

[median anvil]

I appreciate the help. I got to the bottom of it on our end, unfortunately. 😦

The good news is our partner we go through is super awesome to work with, so if anything it gives us an opportunity to touch base with him and catch up. 🙂

[true basin]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch2-overwatch-doomfist-gif-25550843

Anyone else jumping into Overwatch 2 on launch day?

And yes, this is real game footage

(no it's not lol)

[hearty perch]

I may do, depends how well the kids sleep today. Ones got a cold and the other had 4 month immunisations. Could be a busy night

[true basin]

Congrats on the youngin'! Yeah, sounds like it could be busy indeed. It'll be there. Always interesting to see how a first day launch goes anyway.

[fast needle]

If only to stress MegaPC running it on Ultra settings, yea I'll give it a go. I'm not sure I wanna pay for it, that's the only thing hodling me back

[hearty perch]

There’s part of it that’s free

[hearty perch]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/10/04/overwatch-2-is-free-a-fact-blizzard-is-obscuring-with-its-watchpoint-pack/amp/

[fast needle]

oh are they doing that Season Pass stuff Immortal used?

[hearty perch]

A little different, not as intense. More like Halo Infinite, Fortnite etc, more inline with other games in the genre

[quartz veldt]

More of a BF2042 player myself, so been working through that battle pass. Slowly they're improving that game update by update, but yeah def a lack luster release in comparison to previously titles.

[true basin]

What's BF2042, Ross?

[mild hazel]

Battlefield 2042 ?

[dry herald]

BF5/1/4/3 here

[quartz veldt]

Yah that's it! Battlefield 2042. IMO Def not as good as some previous releases like BF3/BF4, but they've made some improvements with recent patches / content releases, so its... enjoyable now.

[quartz veldt]

My favs personally are BF4 and BFV.

[mild hazel]

Boarderlands for me. Along with the weirdness that is now Tiny Tina's Wonderlands.

[quartz veldt]

Played all the Borderlands. Didn't enjoy the most recent one to be honest. Never heard of Tiny Tina's Wonderlands haha. 😂 Such a random game title. I have been playing a little of a game called Deep Rock Galatic. Basically it's Space dwarves, mining for things underground on random planets, and killing bugs. Quite fun if you have a squad.

[mild hazel]

It's a spin off of BL3. She's a character in a few side missions and became super popular. The Game is smialier, but it's told in the context of her running a Dungon and Dragons type campaign and you're a character. So it's a weird mix of RPG and FPS

[fast needle]

Fine, let's see what this is all about.

[true basin]

You'll have been in there before I have! Tried to join the first day and was in the same "30,000 players ahead of you" queue that many others were complaining about on social media . Haven't tried since, but I hope it's a good time!

[fast needle]

Yup, looks like its still queueing 500-600 players.

and it wasn't moving fast. I'll try again another time.

[hearty perch]

The queue seems to jump really quickly, I’ve got in on average after 5 minutes most times

[true basin]

HAHAHAHA amazing

[burnt python]

So, based on the latest email about how NetApp 💘 Cloud, in the Insight announcement, does that mean we on-prem customers, need to look for alternate vendors.

[mild hazel]

doubt 🙂

[burnt python]

So based on the latest email about how

[fresh helm]

Just a reminder... Coming up in just over 2 hours, we've got @neat niche, ONTAP Product Manager, joining us to present the latest in ONTAP 9.11 and a to provide a look ahead. Details: https://discord.com/events/855068651522490400/1017825878870339638

[fast needle]

Happy Friday! Have a great weekend everyone! 🥳

[fresh helm]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-friday-betty-white-tgif-happy-friday-to-you-weekend-gif-24703255

[quartz veldt]

Technically it's happy sat morning for me...

😛

[fast needle]

Well, that's because you live in tomorrowland.

[dry herald]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-future-gif-4767605

[delicate notch]

Of the 18 Hands-on Labs available during Insight 2022, 14 are available to NetApp customers right now here: https://handsonlabs.netapp.com/catalog
Take these labs before the event to free your time for other activities during the event.
These labs will be available only during Insight 2022:

• Hands-on Lab Improving Performance with NVMe/TCP
• Hands-on Lab Building an AI Data Pipeline with NetApp and NVIDIA
• Hands-on Lab Getting Started with Cloud Insights
• Hands-on Lab Cloud-native Applications with Astra Control Center
  Keep an eye out for them!

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/yeaaaah-gif-18170915

[vital coyote]

Hi Everyone, Matt Trudewind - Security Evangelist at NetApp all aboard here now. 😁 Here's a quick bio/introduction on me.

This is my 2nd tour here at NetApp totaling about 10 years. As a Security Evangelist I have a primary focus on ransomware prevention and recovery, cyber resiliency, and data-centric portfolio security. This includes but is not limited to Zero Trust, Data Governance and Privacy Frameworks, Security Tools, and Security Best Practices.

Prior to this I held a dual role of Product Manager and Technical Marketing Engineer for ONTAP Security driving the latest security features and capabilities into NetApp’s flagship product ONTAP

I’ve also held the position of Staff Engineer at NetApp during which I focused on ONTAP product Supportability specifically in the areas of networking and SMB/CIFS.

In between NetApp stints I worked with a NetApp partner (Eze Castle Integration) for 7 years as pre sales/post sales storage architect focusing on early 7-mode to cDOT migration.

I’ve also focused on Microsoft Windows Active Directory, Exchange, SQL and VMware during my 23 years of IT experience with 17 of those years coming in the storage industry.

Prior to NetApp and ECI, I worked a contract at Microsoft as a Technical Support Engineer.

[hearty perch]

Welcome! Drop me a message on teams and I'll add your staff role.

[fast needle]

Welcome aboard, Matt!

We've got a special #┊・security channel down below you might want to monitor 🙂

[quartz veldt]

Welcome @vital coyote Good to have another expert floating around this community Discord!

[floral smelt]

Is it possible to transfer a RAID10 array from an integrated HP RAID controller to a Dell PERC6/i without clearing the data?

[quartz veldt]

Hey @floral smelt this Discord is a community channel for enthusiasts, customers and partners (and staff) of NetApp (netapp.com). So not sure you're going to get an answer to that specific question here. You could try heading over to reddit.com/r/homelab or reddit.com/r/storage and likely someone will be able to help you out.

[fast needle]

The answer though is no, unfortunately. You'd have to transfer from one raid controller to the same one and then move the data between two raid arrays connected to discrete raid controllers on the same host.

You COULD just move the data between two different arrays, same as you would between two drives.

[quartz veldt]

Even detecting RAID configurations between different family's of the same raid cards was sketchy for some brands.

[fast needle]

Exactly, I think LSI were the only ones that had that capability 20 years ago

Either way, you're ultimately doing a data move from source to destination. No way to just plug drives into a diff raid controller and have it work.

[quartz veldt]

Ah the memories of dealing with Adaptec raid cards over the years.

[livid vault]

Just an Idea.
Couldn't you guys create an announcements tab for software? When new releases is available etc.

[quartz veldt]

Hey @livid vault thanks for the suggestion. We do put announcements out on the #╭・announcements channel, and for example, for ONTAP releases, we do update in the #╰・software channel, #╰・software message - It's a manual process atm where our community team puts up the posts, so no doubt that will be something we want to expand / automate in the future.

[livid vault]

Ontap versions is awesome. But I know I would love some automated announcement for SP/DiskFW/ShelfFW etc 🙂

[quartz veldt]

Thanks for clarifying your feedback. Appreciate it. That's a great suggestion. I know the Community Management folks who look after this Discord will see this and take that suggestion onboard to see whats possible.

[fresh helm]

@livid vault - We've got a little-known changelog on NSS (login required)
https://mysupport.netapp.com/site/downloads/software-changelog
The unfortunate part is that there's no ability to subscribe to updates on the changelog. I'm sitting in a room with most of our Support Site team right now, so let me ask again to see where we're at with it 🙂

[desert flax]

that's correct. currently we do not have a way to subscribe to the updates within the changelog. it is a requirement that we are still working on.

[desert flax]

this is a great feedback! we do not have any changelog for firmware today. i'll have to take this back to the team and discuss possibilities.

[livid vault]

@desert flax @fresh helm
It would be much appreciated! I know it's deeply wanted by a lot of us!
Got a lot of colleagues that would love a solution for this 🙂

@fresh helm Thanks for the link, didn't know this existed :p

[floral smelt]

Windows PowerShell SSH client not bad

Just recently that Microsoft added the client?

[haughty sail]

Hello, sorry if my question sounds inappropriate. I work at AWS, is there a way for me to have access as a partner to lab-on-demand? I don’t think AWS is on the gold partner list, isn’t it?

[floral smelt]

Ended up having to wipe the drives again, good thing I made a backup before then... ||technically NetApp since the drives were from a NetApp server that I had to sgformat to get working on other cards /jk 😆||

[delicate ledge]

You might check with the LOD team specifically. The LOD page has contact info.

If there is something specific they can probably hook you up if you need it.

[haughty sail]

[fast needle]

@edgy zinc might be able to point you to the right person

[edgy zinc]

Ummm do you have a valid netapp support account? If so you should be able to view almost all the labs available.

[haughty sail]

Hey Steven, my account is super limited, cannot even download the simulator…is there anything we can do?

[worldly drum]

Hi folks, happy to be here. My name is Jeff Baxter, I'm currently Sr. Director of Product Marketing at NetApp, and you might recognize me from almost 15 years at NetApp (wow, really?). Really looking forward to being a part of Insight 2022 coming up, both in a session or two, and in one of Mr. @fast needle's crazy Discord festivities. If someone from <@&895299822712659999> feels like giving me a Staff role and/or an immediate perma-ban, please do so. Thanks!

[white tulip]

Done! And welcome to the fun Jeff!

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/yeaaaah-gif-18170915

[mild hazel]

Hey Jeff. Welcome !

[dry herald]

Welcome Jeff!

[edgy zinc]

Umm perhaps your account rep can do something for you but I’m not part of that team no more

Now it’s a party @worldly drum is in the house

[haughty sail]

Alright, thanks Steven!

[viscid smelt]

15 years! nicee! this year I've got my 10 year anniversary in my company and they forgot

😂

[fast needle]

Happy Friday, everyone! Have a great weekend! If you've already been through the INSIGHT Events previously, look back through them again, as 5-6 new sessions have been added today! Click those RSVPs on anything you're interested in!

Nick's Choice Recommendations:
https://discord.com/events/855068651522490400/1033116109437685830
https://discord.com/events/855068651522490400/1033123267403337828

[limber sinew]

What is the best place to chat about AWS FXsN? And Powershell as well. I finally have FXsN working at 2 regions and syncing using snapmirrors and wrote a lot of this in Powershell to control volumes "break. delete mirror, create-mirror, resync, etc" for a true working DR setup and like to maybe share some of this and ask questions like why just about every Powershell cmdlets works but warn error 404. Was lots of work so far but it starting to pay off. 🙂 Thanks for any help pointing me to the right place as I am not clear that should be done in here or somewhere in AWS support/chat with Ontap.

[fresh helm]

Hi Mark! Hop down to #┊・hybrid-cloud for the FSx for NetApp discussions.
Powershell conversations generally happen in #┊・ontap-api.

[craggy moth]

I had a reminder that there was a "Hardware Universe Portfolio Overview" in the Hang Space on here from 11-12 EST on 10/26, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Did I get the date/time wrong? I don't see anything listed under "Events", so I'm not even sure where I got it from initially.

[fast needle]

You didn’t, we ended up postponing that one until INSIGHT next week. We’ll pick back up with regular updates post-INSIGHT!

[fresh helm]

https://discord.com/events/855068651522490400/1032355328437788673

Here's the link to its new time

[finite latch]

Hello

[fresh helm]

Welcome!

[tough spade]

Howdy!

[sleek fulcrum]

<@&895299822712659999> can you give me NetApp staff access? Thanks

[dry herald]

Hey Matt! Can you please message me on teams and I’ll sort you out? Thanks!

[sleek fulcrum]

Sure thing Alex

[dry herald]

Done!

[sleek fulcrum]

Hi everyone, thought I might be missing out on some fun stuff happening here, for those of you that don’t know me I’ve been at NetApp longer than @worldly drum and am one of our tech evangelists. Nice to meet you all

[hearty perch]

Welcome!

[mild hazel]

Welcome @sleek fulcrum !

[livid vault]

Anyone know if there's a powershell command to get the DQP datecode?

[worldly drum]

Oh you just have to start off with the flex on being here longer than me, huh? 🙂 Welcome Matt!

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-ooh-covers-mouth-oh-snap-oh-shit-gif-16430536

[worldly drum]

The champ is here!

[crisp seal]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling-old-man-news-the-simpsons-gif-17741451

[novel nymph]

Can't find a hands on lab to test CLI stuff. Anyone know if you can remove a VLAN if it's in a broadcast domain?

[crisp seal]

cluster::> broadcast-domain show Default
(network port broadcast-domain show)
IPspace Broadcast Update
Name Domain Name MTU Port List Status Details

---

Default Default 1500
node01:e0a complete
node01:e0a-1000 complete

cluster::> vlan delete -node node01 -vlan-name e0a-1000

cluster::> broadcast-domain show Default
(network port broadcast-domain show)
IPspace Broadcast Update
Name Domain Name MTU Port List Status Details

---

Default Default 1500
node01:e0a complete

[novel nymph]

Thanks!

[delicate ledge]

How long we talking? If you been here longer than Matusie/Mahesh Bolar you can talk. 😄

[worldly drum]

Just compared their employee ID numbers and Matt just slightly loses out on that one. 😉

[delicate ledge]

Ha.

Sounds like more than e.

me

May 2012 here

(2014 officially but I worked for L1 in the same buliding so I count it)

[worldly drum]

April 2008. Feels like just yesterday. LOL.

[delicate ledge]

Yeah I'm beat.

[worldly drum]

I did say "almost 15 years" in my intro. I might have been cheating by six months.. 😉

[delicate ledge]

Missed that.

[crisp seal]

Rookie

[delicate ledge]

What's your hire date Chris?

[worldly drum]

Gebhardt bringing that 4-digit employee ID fire...

[crisp seal]

2/3/2004, not as old as neto

[worldly drum]

That's also his luggage combination...

[crisp seal]

@strange iris has us all beat

[delicate ledge]

LOL

[worldly drum]

And he loves this company!

[crisp seal]

Really? Would never have known

[delicate ledge]

I'm just a youngin.

[dry herald]

@past kayak 😉

[hearty perch]

Can’t say I’ve been on the employee train anywhere near as long but I was a customer in 98

[mild hazel]

Ditto. I was in HS in 98

[strange iris]

❤️

[dry herald]

98 was when I started down the path which led me to NetApp. Went to Canada as an exchange student, did a unit on Unix and C, found the CS department had their NFS shares open to the whole world. Became a LAMP developer before it was called that, then a sysadmin, then back to canada and working at a NetApp customer in 2009 😉

[sleek fulcrum]

May 2005 was my start date but I was working with NetApp at a partner for about 4 years before that. First system I worked on was an F740 and sold a few old Smokey’s (F85’s)

[fast needle]

Symmetrix and Clarriion were all I really saw and worked with as a contractor (mostly worked on large Exchange environments) until we started doing VMware in 2006, and got called on by some local reps for this new thing called “shared storage.” 🙂

I remember seeing them and thought they had really cool bezels, but always thought they were backup target appliances because they were mostly associated with tape backup libraries. My only exposure at that time. Here’s a throwback word… “Nearstore” with the black metal crinklecoat bezels.

[worldly drum]

Early 2000's I was almost entirely working in Solaris environments, on large-ish sendmail installations on Sun/StorageTek (1Gb FC-AL if I remember, but hazy?) Then we got our Clariions, and Celerra, and Centera, and Symmetrix, and and and. Then I went to work as a contractor and they asked my specialties and I told them Unix/EMC and they put me on a Windows/Exchange/NetApp job. I of course went in determined to get rid of this stupid "toaster" and replace it with some "real storage". Accidentally fell in love with a toaster, applied for an SE job on a whim at my local NetApp office (USPS in DC-area at the time), and ~15 years later here I am.

Now, who's ready for Insight?!? Wooooooooooooo.....

[dry herald]

I was a Solaris/irix/hpux admin for a while in 2001. It was.. a lot coming from a pure Linux background

[fast needle]

Sun V880's... who remembers those refrigerators? Fun fact: When we finally got the Oracle team off SPARC and onto x86/RHEL, then VMs, we pushed one of those V880's off the 3rd story parking garage, Office Space style.

[edgy zinc]

i fell in love with NetApp in 2001 when i was 1st able to work on a 740 (my 1st :-D)....bunch of HP-UX and Sun systems which eventually got ported over to RedHat systems and VMware

V880's had freaking handles built into them cuz they was so dang heavy lol

i'm still on the hunt for a Fas 740 faceplate for my home office

[fast needle]

I had one of those black crinklecoat Nearstore 720 bezels at one point in RTP

[hearty perch]

We should make a special 30th anniversary branded toaster with one of the iconic bezels

[worldly drum]

I think we took out some aggression on some mainframes, trying to remember if we dropped one from any higher than the loading dock. We did have fun unplugging some systems cord by cord and just watching the error messages scroll on the console. "Stop Dave. Will you stop Dave? Stop Dave. I'm afraid." LOL.

[fast needle]

"No not that one!"

[dry herald]

We had a contracter use a V880 as a sawhorse for cutting MDF on..

That decision cost them a LOT of money

We didn’t think that when you hired a datacenter refit company you had to tell them not to cut MDF inside the datacenter, nor use the servers to do it on. Neither did their insurance, but they did end up paying to detail clean the insides and outsides of every single server in there

At a different job we were running v240d and v1280s (in 2010..) and I had to keep them running without support contracts. Did lots of hardware repairs 🤣

[edgy zinc]

thats wild @dry herald that insurance claim call was prob epic

[delicate notch]

Is DPQ in the context of your question "Disk Qualification Package"?

[livid vault]

Yes 🙂

[true basin]

INSIGHT is kicking off now! https://discord.com/channels/855068651522490400/953719879633100850

[signal phoenix]

I used an old AVAYA 10/100 POE call center switch as a table in my garage for a long time before I recycled it.
Thing caused many issues with STP and loops due to call center techs learning that they could take a day off by causing a loop.

[spiral phoenix]

Hello guys, does it have an impact on SVM DR if we enable Aggregate Encryption? Meaning, is there more bandwith usage or more performance impact on the system, compared to no aggregate encryption?

[fiery matrix]

Hi guys,

By any chance would anybody have a document on NetApp flexclone bring used for provisioning virtual desktops?

[dry herald]

Svm-dr copies at the volume level, aggr encryption is below that, so the volume is clear when transferred by svm-Dr/snapmirror

[dry herald]

Sorry, I’m at end of day here in Australia right now, but hopefully someone can help soon! I’m out of the loop on VDI these days.. all my googling comes up with stuff I helped write at a customer in 2009 😅

[fiery matrix]

Thank for the reply Alex, appreciate the efforts!

Needed it to map a particular use case for an opportunity. 🙂

[flat cairn]

Good Morning...Steve Foster here employee 3195

[late pendant]

hello guys i ve a netapp storgate version NetApp Release 9.2, i ve just saw that the autosupport do not allow no more http, how can i update it to use https? thx in advance y all

[turbid hornet]

autosupport modify -node * -transport https

[late pendant]

and how do i check the current trasport option? thx a lot btw @turbid hornet

[delicate ledge]

Storgate?

[dry herald]

system node autosupport show

[mild hazel]

Maybe they're thinking NearStore?

[narrow gale]

Just be better than the toaster that Bungie created that looked like the Jotunn fusion rifle, and that had to be recalled for being a fire hazard: https://bungiestore.com/coming-soon-destiny-toaster

[mild rivet]

Gm

Will there be any recordings?

I wanted to catch the VMware BP session not sure if I missed it

[fresh helm]

Check the Events schedule up in the top-right to check what we've still got coming up here. Anything listed on insight.netapp.com is available on-demand from NetApp.tv

[mild rivet]

Sweet, thanks

[fresh helm]

Sorry -- our VMware Best Practices session was yesterday. There are recordings and we'll share those once they're posted.

[mild rivet]

Awesome

[fast needle]

Yes all sessions have been recorded, save one, where we had an audio issue and it wasn't captured. But I'm already planning to reach out to that individual to have them come back during a particular large event happening later this month.

[warm ferry]

hi all

[fast needle]

Is that "the" Norbie? As in Keith?

[cunning ember]

Hello from snowy Canada.

[mild hazel]

Hello ehy!

[fast needle]

It was 39*F in Las Vegas this morning.

I was not ready for that yet.

[hearty perch]

It was 30c in Bulgaria, I had no shorts with me

[haughty coyote]

@hearty perch wow, greetings from Bulgaria also
It was really hot for November indeed 🙂

[hearty perch]

Zdrasti! I'm taking a few days to visit my family who are here getting 2nd childs passport sorted while I've been travelling between conferences.

[haughty coyote]

Zdrasti! Nice. Hope you like the stay 🙂

This Discord channel is great. Thanks for all you people for the effort

[hearty perch]

I always enjoy my time here, family, food, drinks, good weather. Can't ever complain. Also we live like 5 minutes from the airport here in Plovdiv so travel is so simple

Glad you enjoy it, we have been trying hard to bring a modern community space together where the audience could get all of the different forms of information in one place

[viscid smelt]

Yeah this discord is great, got strong IRC vibes when it was popular and you can meet nice community and some stars that you can talk with

Never thought that guys who I read about and are considered gurus will lend me a hand and discuss some things

[dry herald]

A fair number of us were IRC nerds back in the day I think you’ll find 😉

Myself and a NetApp SE based in Vancouver were IRC Operators for Undernet IRC in the late 90s/early 2000s

[warm ferry]

indeed

[fast needle]

Fixed!

[warm ferry]

what was fixed?

[fresh helm]

Nick added the Staff role to your name/account

[sterile verge]

Hello, AFF A250 can compete witch Alletra 6030 on performance? Where can I find a comparison between alletra and netapp?
Thank you

[worn mulch]

@sterile verge Hit up your ATS/SE and they can walk you through our competitive information in relation to HPE's Alletra.

[sterile verge]

they say yes but they seem to me to be two completely different machines.
I was asking discord because of the impartiality

[worn mulch]

AH makes sense! Here is how I would look at it... Alletra is just Nimble rebranded right. So take that with a grain of salt as far as what all you are looking to get from the production, the solution, and the overall landscape provided by the vendor.

[sterile verge]

shouldn't the performance equivalent of a 6030 be A400?

[worn mulch]

Also, if you look at how they are branding Alletra... I find it funny that they are marketing it as the industry leading entry storage SAN platform...

[worn mulch]

I've not seen the performance numbers from the 6030, but I would imagine that you are right in the comparisson of the A400 to the 6030. Just like the 9xxx series on their side to our A800.

Also, unless something has changed as of recent, the 6xxx series is Active / Passive compared to the A400 that is Active / Active.

I don't even see performance reports via SPC on Alletra...

[sterile verge]

my vmware environment has about 35 vms
it was estimated to need about 30000 iops with throughput 700 mega.

so it should cost even less netapp; it doesn't look like 😄
ps the 250 would have 24 tb of storage.

[fast needle]

I don't think you even need an A400 with that in mind.

[worn mulch]

I would have to see how it was sized to be honest on our part

[fast needle]

An A250 would run circles around that workload.

[worn mulch]

Honestly, the C190 would do what you need...

[fast needle]

Also, don't sleep on the FAS500f. Granted it uses QLC drives, but is basically an A250 with 15TB drives available for max capacity. All in a 2U footprint and the ability to add an additional DS224C shelf for another 24 drives.

[worn mulch]

@sterile verge Two questions. One, what's the total capacity you need? Two, will this grow (number of vm's, capacity, performance needs, etc.)?

[fast needle]

Let's take this to #┊・hardware please. My bad for not suggesting that sooner.

[sterile verge]

I replied you in hardware

[mild hazel]

700 MB/s or Mb/s?

[delicate ledge]

#hardware Mike :p

[mild hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-back-away-never-here-you-dont-see-me-gif-18121192

[warm ferry]

Adidas made a shoe of that meme

[fast needle]

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6993233047835791360/

In case anyone is near South Bend... I can't wait to watch this video.

[fast needle]

Mother of God, look what I just stumbled across... THOSE DAMNED v880s!

or thos might not even be them, I think that's the stuff that was there before the v880s

Circa 2006

No, that's them, down there on the bottom. I just reorganized the cabinets after this. I think this was my first trip to the DC when I was new to the gig and was taking "before" pictures of what I was walking into.

[fast needle]

They didn't even have a proper KVM, so that was the first order of business. Then we reorganized everything and consolidated, eliminating 4 of 8 cabinets. This was my first true task and all before I saw vMotion.

For perspective, ALL of that you see in the racks was JUST for Oracle. v880s were DB and everything else was middleware.

One of my biggest achievements was turning ALLLLL of this into 3 ESX hosts and a FAS3140.

[hearty perch]

Man, that’s some memories in a picture

[fast needle]

Well, to be fair we had about 2 full racks of DS14 disk shelves as well

Closeup... I still have bile in my stomach for those things.

[edgy zinc]

was that a 240 on its side?

where those old big ip F5's on the bottom left?

[fast needle]

Yup! lol

they were there for front end web traffic to the Oracle apps

[edgy zinc]

i love old gear but i get ptsd from all the long nights of effing with them

[fast needle]

Old IBM AS/400 up top. #GreenScreen

[edgy zinc]

crap i thought it was a R6000

thats a newish then 400

[fast needle]

noooo.. last time I dealt was a RS/6000 was like 2001

[edgy zinc]

Found this old gem

i had racks n racks of v240's

[uneven zinc]

@fast needle I actually still have the 6lb torque screwdriver for installing CPU boards into Sunfire 880s. Want it?

[fast needle]

Yes, so I can throw it in the sea.

[hidden girder]

set it on fire first, on youtube.

[dry herald]

I once modified one of our V1280 chassis near end of life to remove the anti gravity clutch.. it had bound up and wouldn’t let cards back in.. taped the CPU card in place with a warning so you didn’t end up having the card slam into the backplane

[wary obsidian]

BlueXP well - somebody is a Windows XP Fan at Netapp? 😂 i am not a fan of blue color, i wish i couöd choose a dark theme

[fast needle]

We just got Dark Mode in SysMgr if that means anything? 😬

[shadow garden]

@edgy zinc man, I think I have the same TShirt !

[worldly drum]

Is there a reason you prefer a different color? I get dark mode for readability in low-light and less eye strain. I can certainly ask about BlueXp plans for dark mode if that's an ask.

[hidden girder]

Without dark mode, BlueXp will be that guy that flips on the lights after a presentation.

[delicate ledge]

I just use the DarkReader extension.

[sterile verge]

Hi all. My name is Mark-Allen and I am a PM in the PMO group under Brian Borgardt. One of my tasks is to learn as much about devops and help teach the other PMs. Thanks for having me.
Btw, I have never used Discord, so if I am doing anything wrong, please let me know.
Thanks.

[delicate ledge]

Ping Drew or Nick if you're an employee and they'll get you added as a staff member in Teams.

Welcome!!!

[sterile verge]

@fast needle : Hello, I am an external for NetApp, working for the PMO under Brian Borgardt. I have a (at) netapp . com address, if that helps to slot me someplace.
Many thanks.

[fresh helm]

You're all set here @sterile verge! Welcome to our Discord!

[hybrid viper]

The NetApp ad on the Freakanomics podcast, really odd pronunciation of NetApp. Could tell the person reading the copy had never heard of the company before reading the ad. wow

[fresh helm]

Pronounced as two very separate words?

[mild hazel]

Net_______App

[fresh helm]

I'll try to refrain from commenting any further on that 😆

[viscid smelt]

NET APP

[dry herald]

Sigh

🙂

In our office we joke about working for “the netapps”

For reasons which are lost to time but which I believe relate to what someone called us once at an event

[delicate ledge]

I hear all the time "the NetApp" when they mean their filer. 😄

[quartz veldt]

The NetApps. I like it. Feels like a destination.

[hybrid viper]

The netapps were half of the customer calls back when I was a TSE

[quartz veldt]

Ah yes, I would like to speak to The NetApps Support please.

[fast needle]

We should add the OG Network Appliance logo as an emoji as a way to meme on stuff like that

[dry herald]

Hells yes

[livid vault]

Anyone know if there could be any compatible issues with Trident if you upgrade to the newest Ontap 9.11.1P3? Can't find any compatible matrix

[quartz veldt]

Hey Jon you may get a better answer over at #┊・astra🔒 channel, but from my understanding any version of ONTAP that is 9.3 or higher is supported - https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/trident/trident-get-started/requirements.html#supported-backends-storage

[livid vault]

Yeah, that's what I found as well. Thanks 🙂

[neat flume]

Hi Team - I cannot find an answer to a simple question - “What does FSx stand for?”

Anyone know the answer?

[dry herald]

@fresh solar could confirm, but I think it’s just a name, not an acronym

[mild hazel]

I always thought FileSystem X???

[fresh solar]

I don't think it's officially defined; we just refer to it as File System X like Mike suggested. Because there's Windows, ONTAP, Lustre, etc.

If you tell me what ONTAP stands for, I'll tell you what FSx stands for 🫠

[mild hazel]

Beer

(Open Network Technology for (Toaster) Appliance Products)

[fresh solar]

yeah, that's the one I remember being told.. but I also remember someone asking Dave Hitz what it stood for and he just chuckled and said "It doesn't stand for anything"

[mild hazel]

I heard it was also a reference to having beer on tap.

And WAFL might stand for Write Anywhere Find Later.

[delicate ledge]

F isn't find.

file layout?

[hearty perch]

Everyone knows it’s sweet snacks

[mild hazel]

Why I said might 😬

[viscid smelt]

oops, Paul didn't get it

😆

[delicate ledge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_Anywhere_File_Layout

[mild hazel]

I know. This was a slide from my preso the other day.

It’s just a spoof on the acronym.

Like… PCMCIA. People can’t memorize computer industry acronyms.

[viscid smelt]

Write Anywhere Find Lasagna

all these industry acronyms can be FUBAR

[dry herald]

TWAIN - technology without an interesting name

[mild hazel]

That’s a good one. Also makes me feel really old that I remember learning that as a kid.

[worldly drum]

Can we have it as a badge too for anyone who worked here when it was the logo? 🙂

[fast needle]

How do we vet that?

[delicate ledge]

Employee number?

[worldly drum]

Clearly employee ID number. 😉

Or honor system and we harass anyone who asks for it who hasn't earned it? 🙂

[edgy zinc]

can i get an honorary one for working on the gear since 2001 🙂

[patent gust]

Crazy thing about WAFL is that it functions more as a Write Anywhere Block Layout..... but who would want to use a file system called WABL ("wobble")??

[mild hazel]

I have this on a mug. That count?

[hearty perch]

I still have a mug like that too

Also some certs with the old logo on

[fast needle]

A hearty welcome to all the new folks joining us from VMware Explore in Barcelona!

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-welcome-gif-22416975

[fresh solar]

official name confirmed to be File System X. 😎

[mild hazel]

Any relation to Mr. X?

[fresh solar]

I could tell you, but.. you know.

[mild hazel]

Off to the island of people who know to much. got it...

[fast needle]

Heading home after a great week of conversations at VMware Explore EMEA in Barcelona! The buzz over here was much more than what was in San Francisco for the US event. Got some new videos coming your way! Welcome to all of the new folks from the event joining us here, and let us know in #╰・help-with-discord if you have trouble finding your way around!

[mild hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-godspeed-parks-boys-suck-gif-5433762

[sterile verge]

Where can I find an honest comparison between netapp - pure - alletra ?

[dry herald]

Everyone has their biases. We think we are pretty great 😉

The best choice comes down to what is most important to you, vs how much the options are that provide it

It’s a tough decision to make , but we feel our portfolio is flexible, sustainable and reliable, and at the right price

[late rover]

<@&855078901109227608> Hey, I'm an employee, (and missed the link on the pub to be a 'pub veteran :(' ) though I was over on the slack a little. How can I get bumped up to 'staff' ?

[fresh helm]

@late rover Send me a message in Teams and I’ll help ya out.

[late rover]

Thank you 🙂

[fast needle]

Hey @neat niche I found it... For those of you that attended Keith's INSIGHT session here in Discord, we told the story about how Keith found me wearing a blue NetApp cap at VMworld 2010 and gave me an iPad. Little did we know I would be joining the company a few months later.

[mild hazel]

Not sure I believe that's you without the beard.

[neat niche]

Its like baby Nick!! Wow hard to believe it was that long ago....

[mild hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-starwars-galaxy-far-gif-8033254

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[spiral phoenix]

Hello guys, just a quick question - if in Ontap we have aggregate encryption enabled, and we also at the same time want to enable volume encryption, how is that done? Also when I define -encrypt true while creating a volume it just creates an NAE volume.

[late rover]

I had the docs for this the other week. Every volume on the NAE aggregate will be encrypted with the aggr-key, to use an NVE key on some vols, we create the vol with the -encryption-type switch added on like : vol create -vserver foo1 -aggr encrypt1 -vol nvevol -encrypt true -encryption-type volume

[late rover]

for an existing volume it's something like: cluster2::> vol move start -vol testvolen1 -vserver svm1 -encrypt-destination true -encrypt-with-aggr-key false -destination-aggregate NAEaggr1

[spiral phoenix]

Thanks @late rover !

[mild hazel]

nice

[runic thorn]

(and no, it's not in production.... 😉 )

[turbid hornet]

over 13 years!

https://tenor.com/view/respect-hat-cap-kid-gif-7551965

[dry herald]

If you ever need to move it, have a look at one of these to maintain uptime https://wiebetech.com/products/hotplug-field-kit/ 😉

[mild hazel]

which product(s) and/or Features?

[eager bolt]

Problem solved thanks

[fast needle]

On set with NetAppTV shooting for AWS re:Invent!

[quartz veldt]

EPIC!

[pseudo surge]

Hey!! Can anyone access the NetApp Learning Center ? seems like theres a problem

[fresh helm]

Loaded up for me. What problem are you getting?

[fast needle]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRC9eR7W/

[spiral phoenix]

Hello guys, quick question - on which interface does the cluster svm on ontap resolve dns requests? It doesn't appear to be on the cluster_mgmt interface.

[dry herald]

it depends on which version of ontap to an extent

but also which routes the cluster SVM has to the DNS servers

[spiral phoenix]

9.10.1P8

[spiral phoenix]

Hmmm, how could I find that out?

@dry herald because we are trying to troubleshoot some dns issues and we can't do a tcpdump without the right interface

[dry herald]

the outbound behaviour of ONTAP is.. not as deterministic as it should be until 9.6, so you should be in a better place..

check out https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/networking/lifs_and_service_policies96.html#service-policies-for-system-svms

[spiral phoenix]

Ok perfect, thanks! I'll have a look

[dry herald]

night!

[crisp seal]

Looks like papa Pat on the right...

[fresh solar]

my reaction when I'm looking deep into AIQUM logs and I see references to DFM

[hidden girder]

#featurerequest - increase inodes much like a volume resize using a plus
vol modify -vserver <vserver> -volume <volume> -files +<amount>

[fast needle]

Little something sweet I got from the Spot booth last week at re:Invent!

[fast needle]

@neat niche Something you can address?

[mild hazel]

fPVR via the account team is probably the best route for that.

[patent gust]

Anyone else participating in adventofcode.com 2022? Curious if we should do leaderboard for the NetApp Discord. @blazing pond

[hidden girder]

I haven't sent it through any official channels yet, was just feeling out the discord if anyone agreed. 🙂

@fast needle Datacenter dude merch store spinning up?

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-austin-powers-mike-myers-gif-5537635

[blazing pond]

I need to troubleshoot my Day 7 code. Test input is successful, but actual input fails.

[fresh helm]

Start a thread here and let's talk about it?

[patent gust]

I need to troubleshoot my Day 7 code

[delicate ledge]

I've been trying to get into coding, but I don't know if I have enough time to work on it.

[fast needle]

Welcome aboard to all the new folks! Please keep in mind that this place is open to the public, so no confidential sharing, and check out the #╭・getting-started channel for additional info! We're excited to have you all here!

If you're a member of NetApp Staff, please reach out to the <@&855078901109227608> team or Drew/myself and we will get you updated.

[fast needle]

Hey @fresh solar I was told by @autumn crow that you need to fix your crappy El Camino.

[fresh solar]

tell him I sold it a few years ago! I lost money (it's a project car - that's a given) but honestly it was a huge relief to get rid of it..

[autumn crow]

@fresh solar you'll just buy another money pit. We all do eventually. Case in point, I'm losing thousands of dollars a year now offroading.

and, long time no see @fresh solar hope you're doing well sir!

[fresh solar]

we had a kid so I'm losing thousands of dollars the old-fashioned way!

[fast needle]

How do we get Jay Horn in here with us?

[fresh solar]

Jay is too good busy to be here with us plebs!

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/kuwtk-keeping-up-with-the-kardashians-scott-disick-tea-coffee-gif-4448690

[sterile verge]

Hi, is the slack channel closed? Are the Information from slack channel lost?

[fresh helm]

In August, the decision was made to move to Discord and everyone was invited to join us here. Channels were locked with an announcement on September 1. With Slack’s “new” 90-day message retention policy, all information on The Pub Slack had been aged out and was inaccessible. As such, the Slack workspace has been closed.

[stiff kiln]

Someone mentioned my name?

[fresh solar]

🤐🤐🤐

[stiff kiln]

@autumn crow what happened to the Corvette?!

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-snap-dave-chappelle-saturday-night-live-oh-no-omg-gif-19226541

[autumn crow]

@stiff kiln long gone my friend! My open track days are on hiatus so I've moved on to Jeeps. It's "cheaper".

[narrow gale]

Are you like Beetlejuice? Just show up randomly when people summon you, cause havoc, leave.

[stiff kiln]

Hah! Something like that. I do tend to cause a lot of havoc. Not sure about the name calling though. Love the AWS flare!

[spiral phoenix]

Hey guys, how can you deconfigure mail hosts on ontap for asup? We can't seem to get it working via CLI

[burnt python]

#┊・just-chatting Perhaps I am in the wrong place; But I have a serious issue with NetApp's latest turn towards REST, POWERSHELL, PYTHON and ANSIBLE. My job is to run the (ONTAP) storage in our data centers as quickly and efficiently as possible. I've been doing this for decades using BASH and the CLI. I wanted to see what all the rave was about with the new methods, but I can honestly say, I'm dumbfounded.
-I've had CLI scripts which have been running for years
-I tried PowerShell, but it appears to be more verbose and confused than COBOL; and it requires changes as the language and the modules change
-I just looked at the REST lab; what can I say. It appears worse than Assembler.
I understand AUTOMATION, but you can't automate using (spaghetti code)
Some-one help me understand; What happened to KISS?

[spiral phoenix]

IAC (Infrastructure as Code) is in my opinion the way to go, and is also the direction the market/IT world is moving to. Tools like Ansible enable you to do that in an efficient way. We save a lot of manpower by automating as much as possible 🙂

[burnt python]

CLI Automation

[fast needle]

//cc @haughty coyote @unborn tartan @lost lichen @night raft @karmic sparrow @hybrid viper

Thanks again for being our INSIGHT 2022 Giveaway winners! You should have your $50 digital AMEX gift card in your email.

[fast needle]

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2022/12/22/vmware-2023-san-francisco-las-vegas.html

Breaking News: VMworld* 2023 will be held in Las Vegas! 🤘

(*yes, I know they changed the name, but it'll always be VMworld to me.)

[hearty perch]

Need more east coast conference centres clearly

[late rover]

Atlantic City is a great value for conventions, over there. Not quite as polished as LV, but centrally located with lots of room.

But if you're shooting for a conference location in the US, tech companies of the world, may I suggest Wichita KS (am a bit biased, of course) https://www.visitwichita.com/meeting-planners/facilities/

I would argue we're one of the MOST centrally located 😄

[dry herald]

Branson MO? 🤣

[mild hazel]

we could go get some rolls thrown at us.

[hybrid viper]

Or the Raleigh Convention Center is kinda nice, Kevin Smith said it was just as good as Hall H at San Diego. It worked for All Things Open

[late rover]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-yoda-new-years-eve2020-happy-new-year-the-mandalorian-gif-15858731

Happy New year, Eastern and Central time. Mountain and Pacific up next!

[fresh helm]

https://tenor.com/view/2023-happy2023-srekjna-nova2023-srekjna2023-tashkoskim-gif-27178224

[wary basin]

I've been through the free NCSIE training. Anyone know of any other free study material or exam dumps?

[fresh helm]

I'd encourage you to edit the request for exam dumps out of your message.

[bold prairie]

Hi,
Is there a hiring freeze in NetApp ? Any idea when it will be resumed?

[dry herald]

I haven't heard of a general one. Regionally funded jobs rely on regional sales performance, and in some circumstances unfavorable quarterly results may lead to a local hiring freeze, but again, I don't specifically know if that is occuring anywhere. We typically do a christmas to new years shutdown, which means applications tend not to move much from mid december to mid jan. There's 120 jobs listed on https://netapp.eightfold.ai/careers

[stiff osprey]

sooo

anyone have a FAS2650?

[dry herald]

many people 😉 one of our best selling models of its time 😉 what is on your mind regarding it?

[stark swan]

I had a feeling @fast needle was going to reorganize some of this 😊

[quartz veldt]

Ha, Nick and Drew are all over it. Any feedback let us know!

[fast needle]

We were just waiting on Forum Channels to open up for us!

[quartz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/street-rafting-rainstorm-flood-gutter-stream-gif-25918299

Flood gates opened with the new feature, lets enjoy the ride. 😄

[fresh helm]

https://www.npr.org/live-updates/us-flight-delays-faa-outage

I hope none of you had any early morning flights today 😬

[quartz veldt]

Ouchy. 😮

[edgy zinc]

those damn win '95 updates lol

[rain loom]

https://tenor.com/view/fera-radical-walther-negrao-malu-mader-jose-mayer-disquete-gif-18142305

[stiff osprey]

On on version 9.2 now. Very excited to update that sucker soon!

[delicate ledge]

9.2? That's an old version of ONTAP!

[true basin]

Superb first OnAir stream, fellas! Congrats on the new show and it was good fun!

[sterile verge]

hello

[fast needle]

Thanks dude!

[stiff osprey]

Yeah... It needs to go. Shooting for 0 downtime

[delicate ledge]

Not a great idea when we have patches every month or multiple times a month for new zero day vulnerability patches.

[mild hazel]

Why not just patch ONTAP?

[delicate ledge]

Agreed. Why not keep it up to date (unless the filer is EOS and you can't download/install ONTAP versions).

[mild hazel]

EOS is May 2024 for FAS26xx.

[fresh helm]

Any of you being beat up by the weather today in the SE US ? 🌩️ 🌪️

[worldly drum]

No but if I wanted to live in Seattle I’d live there instead of the Bay Area. At this rate, the Oakland Zoo is going to have to start loading their animals two by two into a wooden boat.

[fresh helm]

I do love the Seattle area. I’ve always said that Washington is my second choice state, if I were to leave NC. It’s beautiful up there (on good days).

[fast needle]

Good morning, everyone! We've continued to evolve and expand the structure of our Discord community here with some added channels and granularity. Please let us know if you feel like we've missed/overlooked anything. We're building this for the long-term future, but slight tweaks can always be made.

[pseudo hull]

it's pretty chaotic at the moment... someone might be trying to do too much too quickly

i've stopped checking in here very often... too many places with "updates" to keep up with... automatically collapsed threads or different policies for different groups with almost the same name

[hearty perch]

There’s a new feature coming soon to discord that may help with that. There’s a channel browser and the ability to subscribe to only what you are interested in.

[fast needle]

Appreciate that and apologize for the confusion and flipping around of channels over the last couple of weeks. It's a bit of a pendulum swing trying to balance the sweet spot of how much you make things consolidated and generic versus granular and specific. The current state is where things have landed and the framework we'd like to use long-term. You do have the ability to set granular notifications and mute channels you're not interested in keeping up with, and that's important to us, too.

[fast needle]

YES! Many years ago I rewrote the lyrics to “Forgot about Dre” and made it “Forgot about FAS” and wanted to have GK do it with me (him as Dre, me as Shady) but we never got around to it

Here’s a sample of the note…

[fast needle]

I've fallen down the AI rabbithole, folks.

[mild hazel]

did you put in "DataCenterDude" or "Aquaman Server Rack"?

[urban zinc]

would pay to see this

[mild hazel]

/r/oddlyspecific

[fast needle]

Ester’s turned out much better, but took a LOT of prompt iterations.

I also did a fun one in Chibi style for the lols, and the scary part is that looks more like me.

[mild hazel]

I need to try that bot. i've been trying to get a pic for a Ramen food blog my daughter and I are doing.

[urban zinc]

almost got the fingers right too!

[fast needle]

Yea we had a good laugh about that

[hearty perch]

It’s always fingers and teeth, it just doesn’t understand

[dry herald]

I had a play with remini with some old photos recently and my word it did a good job on some and on others it was totally useless. Very weird which was which

[viscid smelt]

AI just thinks that we need more fingers to be more effective

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-in-the-shell-keyboard-gif-7519694

[formal brook]

@fast needle i also went down the AI rabbit hole as well. ChatGPT is pretty much correct their.

[fast needle]

I’ve been looking at the discord integration to see if it’s something we could use here

[stark swan]

The ONAIR info graphic looks like 🔴 NAIR as in the hair removal product. Which is probably the last thing @fast needle needs LMAO. Maybe 🔴 N-AIR is better with the dash?

[fast needle]

Thanks for the feedback!

[rain loom]

Been tempted to get one of those on air signs that light up and put it on my door, that way family knows not to walk in during meetings...

[fresh helm]

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/raspberry-pi-on-air-light

Like this?

[worldly drum]

Okay, someone needs to give me a primer to start trying this out. I had played a bit directly with DALL-E, is that what this is?

Oh okay, Midjourney huh? Lemme see...

[deep raven]

Hello, I have a PS script I would like to share with the community, what would be the best way to go about this?

[fresh helm]

Drop it in #1062051481966084167 if it’s something you can share in text. Discord supports markdown, so use the three backticks (```) to wrap the code.

[soft python]

My wednesday was quite alright but finding this made it infinitely better! That is brilliant and a music video needs to be made! 🎤 🔥

[pale moss]

It’s been fun. We shall see if I’m back. Good luck with this Nick. ~JD

[brazen bear]

Hey, I am a NetApp staff member. Looking to get the proper roles if someone could help me with that 🙂

[fresh helm]

Hey Chris - shoot me a message on Teams

[fading tartan]

Dang, bad enough I got laid off, but demoted to "member" too.

[fresh helm]

How about an upgrade to A-Team! That was a miss, and you should've had it already.

[viscid smelt]

Some big lay offs in NetApp again? In which team you were?

[signal phoenix]

8% from what I heard.

Seems to be the industry standard for layoffs right now

[dry herald]

bless the monthly and quarterly results focused markets for encouraging long term investment and strategy

[viscid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/money-crying-woody-harrelson-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-6945518

[fast needle]

How's yall's Friday going?

[mild hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-gif-25488313

[mild hazel]

How'd the upgrade go though? 🙂

[fast needle]

I have some thoughts I’ll be packing up and sending to Gebhardt 🤓

[signal phoenix]

I did an update a year or two ago before I knew my rs-232 cables were too long ... My SP's kept locking up and causing the boot to go sideways on a freshly updated/rebooted node.
It would drop to the loader prompt every time and refuse to take keyboard input in any reasonable manner (1 key per 10s).

Once I figured out a workaround, the update took 12 hours with the workaround for a 10n cluster.

Unplug e0m seemed to do it for me at the time, later we got down to brass tacks with a measuring tape and realized only 4/10 rs-232 cables were under 8ft long.
Unplugged those and ordered more DIGI console servers and we were good to go.

[fast needle]

It’s always the dumbest thing, isn’t it?

[signal phoenix]

I had to go through two cases to help get root cause.
First was during the really unstable SP' firmware for the 8200's that had back to back internal switch updates.
The next was finally down to the root

[dry herald]

I found some awesome usb-c to rj45 serial cables on AliExpress.. such a cool promising idea.. and of course they don’t work properly 🙁

[fresh helm]

A connector does not an interface make. Haha

[signal phoenix]

Yeah, they went ham with 12-24 port Digi console boxes, I'm debating next refresh to get them to jump to a network based 2-4 port more industrial solution for simplicities sake.

[fresh helm]

Lantronix is my personal preference for those. We also just wired them with CAT5 and used regular RJ45 connectors with DB9s as needed. Had a few devices connected over 100’ with that setup.

[quartz veldt]

Yup can confirm Latronix worked quite nicely during my DC days!

[fresh helm]

I had maybe 25 32-port terminal servers just in my part of the lab. Couldn’t get rid of the Digis fast enough

[signal phoenix]

When we come up for device lifecycle I'll bump them out!

[turbid hornet]

Bluetooth to serial adapter? 🙈

never tried them though

[quartz veldt]

It gives off a "stealing your bank details" sort of vibe.

[split wigeon]

Hi

Which one you prefer the most when updating ONTAP?
CLI or GUI

[quartz veldt]

You see a mixed bag. More experience ONTAP folks tend to use the CLI or those using older systems, but I see newer customers, and generalist IT Admins (i.e not solely storage admins) tend to just stick with the GUI. Both are well documented.

[split wigeon]

I prefer to use CLI however my workmate wish me to use to GUI

[turbid hornet]

If you only know the older version of System Manager I would give it a try. The newer version (beginning around 9.10.1) are really nice.

When we're talking ONTAP-update: Being able to directly upload the update-files from the browser is a neat feature in the GUI.

[split wigeon]

thanks

One of my workmate said using GUI to do the ONTAP upgrade is non-disruptive and said CLI is disruptive under certain situation I was wondering how is going

[quartz veldt]

CLI can be used to run non-disruptive upgrades just the same as GUI. As @turbid hornet mentioned, the GUI does provide some benefits in terms of providing a direct GUI based location to upload the ONTAP update files and start the process.

If your ONTAP systems are reporting back to NetApp (i.e ASUP is enabled), then you can login to ActiveIQ Digital Advisor and generate an Upgrade Advisor plan. I believe it walks you through the whole process via CLI for a non-disruptive upgrade.

[split wigeon]

Thanks Ross

[dry herald]

Cyclades.. is that showing my age?

[patent gust]

Do NetApp admins/installers not use things like AirConsole? I couldn't live without mine back when doing FlexPod installs. I had a 4-port version that allowed me to connect to both controllers in an HA-pair and the cluster switches without needing to swap cables during setup. https://www.get-console.com/shop/en/22-airconsole-pro-20l

[viscid smelt]

I'm using GUI only to upload image because it's awesome feature - no more PITA estabilishing IIS servers because hosting guys didnt wanted to have images on their repos

🤣

[turbid hornet]

That's neat, never heard of it before

[mild hazel]

i had a 2 port one a while ago. was great for installs so you didn't have to sit/stand behind the rack.

[hearty perch]

I had something similar. I also had the multiport serial to USB adapters. It all became so much easier when they started adding USB serial ports on the devices though, just had a hub and a shed load of USB cables in my bag

[viscid smelt]

my friend who does not love CLI that much when I've shown him how to update disk firmware from GUI in 9.10.1:

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[quartz veldt]

Then show him how to enable automatic firmware updates.

[signal phoenix]

Mixed bag.
Until v4 I preferred to make new aggrs via gui.
But I almost exclusively do management from CLI I les I'm showing a coworker how to do something new

Otherwise I give them swimlanes, some tasks don't get done by either and just get shoved through Rundeck/Ansible

None of them have created anything via cli or GUI vol/share/lun wise in like the last year and a half, thankfully. The margin for error was too high

[dry herald]

That’s always the thing about CLI - you have an easily defined and recorded set of commands for an outcome, vs “click this, check that, uncheck this, type this value here” of GUI. For small environments, GUI is fine, but for larger ones, CLI is likely more common

[split wigeon]

hi

What is cfo style aggregates?

[mild hazel]

It’s a nodes root aggr

[split wigeon]

thanks

[split wigeon]

If I perform a giveback with option -only-cfo-aggregates true, only root aggregates is given back, right?

[mild hazel]

Yep.

[split wigeon]

thanks Mike

[split wigeon]

What is POST mean in Netapp?

[quartz veldt]

Without much info from you, I am guessing it's referring to a POST call to the ONTAP API. Just a guess though 🙂

[split wigeon]

It is about POST is done on boot? I am not sure what is it stands for

[quartz veldt]

Sometimes people use the term POST when speaking about nodes booting up, i.e have they posted.

[quartz veldt]

Yup it can be used in that context as well.

[split wigeon]

thanks

[hearty perch]

It comes from the term Power On Self Test (POST), to describe the sequence that a computer system goes through after it is turned on but before it loads an operating system.

[quartz veldt]

Well done, totally could not remember what it stood for 😄 but yes good point it's basically booted the BIOS but not the OS.

[split wigeon]

thanks a lot

[split wigeon]

Do you know whats is GX_PRIMARY_KERNEL_URL?

Is it used to point to the correct version of ONTAP?

[split wigeon]

if I run setenv GX_PRIMARY_KERNEL_URL in loader prompt

[mild hazel]

Hey can you try posting in the #1062049169520476220 section this question?

[split wigeon]

i had fix the issue, thanks

[fiery matrix]

Hey guys,
Any capacity limitation while using ontap select?

For evaluation license

[signal phoenix]

Hwu should tell you, additionally #1062049169520476220 !

[granite crow]

Hey I haven't been on this server for a hot minute. Has anyone else been getting DMs from a senior member of this server soliciting feedback on their contents, plural?

I'm sure it's all on the up and up, just an unexpected contact.

[fast needle]

Yes, I was duped by a spammer

They've been banned, and apologies for any confusion this may have caused.

[robust saddle]

they pinged me as well

[fast needle]

I suppose this means I've made it to the big time now?

[granite crow]

SONOFA, glad I didn't interact too much. they got as far as my first name and the state where I live

[floral smelt]

Do we ask general non-Netapp hardware questions here?

[fast needle]

We’ve got a whole category called DISCUSSION above with various chat channels in there, depending on what your topic is. This is more of a water cooler hangout community section.

[eager bolt]

As the FY24 partner program policy has changed, I have to get additional certificates, but I'm worried.

[mild hazel]

Which exams are being required?

[eager bolt]

NCTA NCSIE and one more thing but i dont remember a name lol

I m weak at exam

🤪

[mild hazel]

I thought both of those were in there for awhile? I had to take both of those as a partner a while back. Did the number of people required to have them go up?

[late ferry]

Anyone else having issues logging into mysupport?

[fresh helm]

Just saw this -- the team is looking into that

[turbid hornet]

Three weeks ago I got some more: Hybrid Cloud Admin (because cloud everywhere) and one of the FlexPod ones. I'm more worried for next year when the whole bunch of those NCIE, NCSIE, etc expires. 🙈

Also I'm still missing that damned NAHSE cert. Bah, I hate that one 😤

[eager bolt]

I don't know the details yet. I think you need to get a license for at least one track in order to maintain a changed partner rating.

[split wigeon]

me 2

[sterile verge]

(I'm a ontap newbie) From the k8s side, I've seen a number of times ONTAP SVM's being misconfigured / and hosts in a trident scenario. We either used NFSv3 or NFSv4.
In some cases there were various Auth settings in the SVM enabled that blocked file access (they were not propertly configured and should have not been set).
In some cases there were root and uid squashing settings done. The challenge has always been trying to coordinate a Storage Admin and k8s team and sometimes some linux team doing everything correct. And in many cases the Storage ONTAP admin is a very busy person 🙂
Any toughts ?

[quartz veldt]

Hey @sterile verge we have a dedicated question section for Astra over at #1063542596221284523 - suggest dropping your question there for the Astra folks to jump on! Hope this helps.

[acoustic dragon]

Hello all

somebody gave me an Netapp NAJ-1001 and wants me to remove all data. this is the first time im touching an NETAPP so i dont know what to do with it? is it a serial console CLI device? is it an webui device ? do i need software ?

[delicate ledge]

Got a picture?

I honestly don't recognize it.

Oh nevermind Google...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/401563709466 NetApp DS2246 NAJ-1001 Array 24x 900GB 10K X423A-R5 2x IOM6 Controllers + 2x PSU

It's a disk shelf only. It won't have any data.

[acoustic dragon]

it has 24 x 1.8 tb disks

and dual NETAPP FCWWN SASWWN Controller Module

[mild hazel]

That's a JBOD.

[mild hazel]

i mean.. it MIGHT have data on it. but can't really wipe it without connecting it to something.

[acoustic dragon]

how to connect it?

it has 2 sas connections, 4 sfp connections 5 rj45 connections

cant find any info on it

[mild hazel]

can you post a pic of the rear?

[acoustic dragon]

even a usb

[mild hazel]

that makes it sound like it's a controller. like a 2552

[mild hazel]

little different than what was in the ebay link. same chassis though.

[acoustic dragon]

yup

[mild hazel]

https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/system-admin/manage-node-boot-menu-task.html

via the boot menu you can do a wipeconfig / re-initialize all the disks.

can you do a post in either #1062049107096633454 or #1062049169520476220 and we can continue this out of the chatting channel.

[acoustic dragon]

how do i access the boot menu ? CLI ?

[mild hazel]

from the state it's in. serial console would probably the simplest.

[acoustic dragon]

i can do that 🙂

[mild hazel]

on a side note. the lighting and composure of that photo is amazing.

[acoustic dragon]

lol.. samsung phone and fenix flashlight 😄

i dont understand why i cant find documentation on what the connections do.. the icons SEEM to say that the 4 sfp's could do fiberchannel and ethernet

[mild hazel]

start that post in #1062049169520476220 and lets take this there.

[acoustic dragon]

found https://library.netapp.com/ecm/ecm_download_file/ECMP1609081 and it explains the connections.. tomorrow is a new day 🙂

[delicate ledge]

Oh good point.

[delicate ledge]

smartphone cameras have gotten much better.

[mild hazel]

They have.

granted. I still love my Canon R6

[severe citrus]

Aw man. This seemed like a home run a year ago. Wonder if they couldn’t make it work?: https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/netapp-shuts-down-its-spot-pc-vdi-business

[dry herald]

Yeah, bit interesting. As the summary says, uses some existing NetApp technologies and assets. Can’t speculate on the reasons though 🤷🏻‍♂️

[steel prism]

Today installing a new Metrocluster for a customer I found this :

Up and running without any error !

[robust saddle]

What's its uptime? I retired one of those a few years back that had been forgotten about and it had over 4000 days uptime. Running DOT6 IIRC

[steel prism]

Over 4000 too ! I will check that and I’m back with the exact uptime

[fast needle]

That's the box that became the DS14Mk2 shelf eventually!

[dry herald]

Did we start with it as the controller? Interesting!

[edgy zinc]

na those started as DS14's then a controller head was added iirc

[hearty perch]

Did a few swap outs of controller modules back in to shelves in my day

[signal phoenix]

I had a fas250 running 20ish flexclones of a 2tb DB2 db way back in the day.
Did an Ontap update and a port died (ESH/at-fcx? I can't remember).
Support shipped me a new one. Something was wrong and it wouldn't fit?

My VAR at the time had a guy with a spare FAS270 in his garage, he drove me the part, was there first thing in the morning, got licenses moved and we were ready to roll.

We eventually swapped out the head and connected it to a 3140 and did an aggr import, kept the 20-30 clones.

[fast needle]

3140s with DS14s were the business in the late 2000s. Those rigs for what they were, were beastly and could take a whoopin.

production VMware, Exchange, and Oracle with 10GbE NFS and iSCSI, and it ran circles around the old Sun and HP hardware we replaced

[signal phoenix]

I had two 3140's that the only short comings to them were the SATA shelves we had running exchange of all things.

Throw the FlashCache cards in those suckers, put VMWare on NFS over 10GbE, deduplicate the heck out of everything and have 7s bootup time on ESXi v5 (I think it was 5...)

My vmware guys thought I was nuts for wanting VMWare on NFS then, until I showed them the benefits of deduplication and those cards. We couldn't migrate quick enough.

[dry herald]

Yeah my first exposure to NetApp was FAS3170s running nfs for Vmware

[north jungle]

6280s still running in the house here beside my commodity nas, kinda silly..doubles as a heater in winter months ofc 😆

wish i could do select as i have the hardware for it but the landing page for a trial for it is broken for me

[mild hazel]

Mine was a mix enviroment, but the most fun one was a 6290 running 8.1 cdot.

[robust saddle]

You guys are all newbies. 🤣 My first filer was a 1400, which was a deskside with non-swappable 1G drives. The F220 with warm-swappable drives was a huge upgrades. The F540 with the chrome bezel was the best looking filer ever.

[edgy zinc]

i'm a F740 guy

im still on the hunt for that bezel 🙂

[mild hazel]

i was still in HS when that was relased

[mild hazel]

"My first filer was a 1400". had to look that one up. I was just starting HS / Leaving Middleschool

[hearty perch]

There was one at the university department I worked at around 1998, but I couldn’t tell you what model. Then I purchased one at a company I worked at in around 2000-2001, again not sure on the model. After that another company I worked at ordered one of the first 3020c’s in the UK, that and an R series nearstore.

[dry herald]

Message me the uni and maybe we can find sales records 🤣

[hearty perch]

It was one of the Cambridge Uni departments, I’m pretty sure that’s why the biotech startup I went to after that purchased one, all the scientists had used one before.

We had a ton of Silicon Graphics workstations as well, those things had VR long before it was cool

[dry herald]

I admined a lab of indys and a handful of O2s 2001-2004. I didn’t love irix, but man they seemed like they could do some cool stuff for the time 🙂

I had two old Indys 2005-2009, but they didn’t get much use. Ran Linux on one of them and irix on the other. Also the monitors were magnificent Sony gdm17e11 based ones #chefskiss

[fast needle]

I was eyeball deep in Y2K updates and AD/Exchange migrations. You guys were all way ahead of me on storage. The closest I ever came were the Symmetrix's that Exchange was running on.

[restive sedge]

one of my first computers was an SGI Octane that i bought off Ebay in like 1999 or 2000ish. Then I got an HP 9000 with HP UX 11i 1.0

Man I am old. And I was just doing inbound Tech Support for HP LaserJet

I also have an old HP Workstation with HPUX 11i v1.6 with an Itanium processor in storage somewhere.

[dry herald]

HP 4100DTN is best printer ever.

[quartz veldt]

I wondered why that sounded so familiar then I googled it and realised my first Desktop Support job we had 20 - 30 of those suckers dotted across the campus I worked at. Ah memories.

[signal phoenix]

My home school district was loaded to the gils with these, they were pretty bullet proof.

[dry herald]

I adminned i think 12? Yeah, loved them

[eager bolt]

Hi What do you think are the disadvantages of a single controller?

[quartz veldt]

Disadvantages will depend on the workload running on it.

Redundancy obviously is the main disadvantage. If any component within the controller fails, you will be impacted. Same goes for software upgrades of ONTAP, that would be disruptive as no second node to failover too. Additionally your performance is limited as you only have 1 node to handle all the I/O rather than splitting the workload across a HA pair of nodes.

🙂

[split wigeon]

hi

how do you guys study NS0-593?

NetApp Certified Support Engineer – ONTAP Specialist

[fast needle]

WAY back when I was running a datacenter, we had a SnapVault secondary that was a single controller. It was the third tier in a cascade that was Production > SnapMirror + SV Primary > SV Secondary. If it went offline temporarily, it wasn't a huge deal.

[spiral violet]

when stuff was called "nearstore" ?

[fast needle]

Right after that. Not quite that far back 🙂

2007-2011.

[mild hazel]

A lot of that one is expierence + ONTAP troubleshooting knowlege and knowledge of NetApp Support tools. e.g. WAFLiron.

If you're a customer you might not have access to some of the material though.

[split wigeon]

thanks, mike

[spiral violet]

yeah.. WAFLiron and latX saved my bacon several times when i was still member of the club. Now as a customer theyre all but a faint memory...

[split wigeon]

Hi

I took NS0-194 on 17 Mar 2023 and NS0-093 28 Mar 2023. I passed the exam however there is no email send to me

[quartz veldt]

I believe you should have access to the NetApp Learning Center? If so, I believe there is a place there to submit a ticket for help. Possibly that could be a good place to start.

[split wigeon]

thanks

[hearty perch]

You can also email [e-mail]

[fresh helm]

Absolutely insane severe weather day today here in the US. I hope all of you in the areas of concern are safe.
As of an hour ago, there has been 130 Tornado Warnings so far today.

[quartz veldt]

130! What? Wowser.

[mild hazel]

ORD last night had a tornado watch and everyone in T1 went into the tunnel between B and C terminals. Was nuts.

Buddy of mine sent me this last night just after he landed there.

[true basin]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-working-typing-gif-8741798

Happy Friday, brought to you by early 2000s gif technology

[fast needle]

https://tenor.com/view/jif-gif-right-gif-4585401

[mild hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-leave-gtfo-get-out-of-here-gif-6207127

[north jungle]

that's absolutely the way we pronounced it in the late 80s and well before todays gifs we called animated gifs when they were new.

[split wigeon]

hi

I cannot login my netapp vue account

i click the forgot password button but no email was sent to me

what should i do?

[quartz veldt]

@split wigeon Email [e-mail] and they should be able to help you. I know there was some changes going on around 11th April 2023 to do with Pearson Vue and CertCenter.

[split wigeon]

I sent an email last friday but no one replied

[quartz veldt]

Please have some patience it's not a 24x7 monitored email account and it's primarily monitored by our US team whom are out of the office due to the weekend.

If you don't hear back in the next 48 hours, update us here and we will see what we can do.

[bronze mica]

Is https://devnet.netapp.com/ broken for anyone else? I get a 403.

[fresh helm]

Its working for me

[bronze mica]

Hmm, doesn't seem to like my corporate VPN...