#below-zero-chat
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how deep are they?
well actually I don't think it's as much a problem with filtration machines but the Sea Truck not having a growbed module, so on long trips I often have to get bladderfish and make smol water from them as to not waste my large waters
100 to 300m
I would much rather have sonar, silent running, and shield thank you. (+the ability to build stuff inside it, instead of needing a whole module to just have a fabricator)
ye
im thinking of going down like 600m..
Is there sonar in bz?
the cyclops is a lot better than the seatruck but bigger
but in bz that might aswell be the lava zone 
Cyclops just offers a lot more. And u are completely flexible with it.
ok whose bright idea was it to scrap this
mhm
it was literally a room with one 4 slot planter.
š
Yeah but it's bigger with use. A seatruch with all modules is longer than cyclops, way slower, and offers a lot less.
Yeah
mhm
I wish horsepower upgrades could stack
I wish the modules of the Sea Truck were hinged so the whole thing curved when you steer it, that would be so cool and make going around corners easier
someone needs to make a mod for that
That'd be awesome
I wish the seatruck had an actual engine made to carry all that weight (e.g just look at cyclops engine) meanwhile it's a crappy seamoth trying to act like a cyclops and really failling.
yes, instead of seeing the shadow and it being a long underwater twig
I actually thought this was the case when I made it but I got out mid curve once and saw that it was just straight and was like :/
Mines kinda long atm and reversing down a tight cave is hell
on a positive note, the engine sounds the Sea Truck make are cool, gives a feeling of power
I like it better than the Seamoth's sounds
Yea
on multiple occasions I've had to break my truck up into pieces and manually transport them through tight areas
don't take it into kelp caves >.<
Yeah but the seamoth doesn't look like a cube with 2 little flops on the side
hi i just started playing sub! š
some are determined to hate everything about BZ
soo what should i do affter fixing the boat or idk what it's called?
btw are w all Bellow zero?
wrong channel Noot-gamer
why?
Honestly, i think we can all just agree, that the funding Alterra provided for Sector Zero exploration, is a lot worse than the funding of the aurora.
why can't i chat in here?
despite the disadvantages I do love how you can connect/disconnect the Sea Truck from the modules from the inside without having to go anywhere, I had hoped that would be the case
also the fact that it can carry the Prawn so you can take all vehicles places at once
so am i not playing the bz?
And it's not my fault the game offers me dozens of reasons to do so on a silver platter.
it sounded like you aren't. Fixing what boat?
Yeah
BZ = Subnautica Below Zero, which is the sequal to Subnautica and a different game
not boat i mean like when first u start the game there is fire
that's still not Below Zero
It's normal subnautica you want
uh then how can i get below zero?
this is the game you're playing
BZ is the sequel. We love Subnautica, but it's a different channel
is it good at least?
this is the game this chat is for
there is a big difference fr
Subnautica is awesome, or beyond awesome. Finish this game first
Yeah
ok i think i finished it..
both games are good but I'd definitely recommend playing the first one through before getting the second one
i just cleaned the mess and the fire is gone!
the keyword to both games: Explore everything. Scan everything
for more advice on what to do, go to #subnautica-chat because that's where you'll get help for that game
congrats, you finished 1% of the game. Typical playthrough is 30 to 90 hours
Yeah
the fact that I have nearly 400 hours of play time in Subnautica should say something lol
and I've only beaten it 3 times
I've beaten the first one once and am working on bz
thats nothing, 1000 hours on mine
||Khaara|| sample is on ||Phi robotics island in pingu investigation|| right?
spent ages looking for it now
wait so no way to cure it?
you said sample. This was ingame in EA
i meant cure
The cure is marked in red on the phi map
oh i see, sample was from emperor earlier
yes
no way
how should i know it was a cure marked there xd
guess i should have looked more carefuly
i completely forget about the map tbh
because it is mentioned in a PDA. In Zero I believe
i don't read pda's in below zero, in base game there was a lot of clues, in here not so much
bad gamer! Bad! *spank
maybe a mistake. I love the voice entries tho
*bad gamer hecks in pain
lol i was exploring bad area looking at the map now
at least i have magnetite and ores for ages
that area is more generous then undersea ones, weird
How deep is the void in bz?
i guess 800? but i don't know where you can reach void
there's floor at 3k I think, some places. Absolute max is 8192
Pointless to know, as this isn't built land
800? thats more shallow than the fabricator caverns
lol fabricator caves... i found them by accident and haven't marked them
brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
now i need to be lost a few times in purple crystal biome
my brother broke the controller and i cant play my subnautica
theyre pretty easy to find..
i guess, gonna find omega base and finish the story now
controllers are, too
Boo
um
stop deleting my messages
i literally did nothing and a bored mod is giving me warning for a literal joke wth-
automoderator is pretty strict. As for the real mods, if you argue, you lost. However, they are nice people
not automoderator
it was 20 minutes after i sent the message
look mod ik ur bored but can u not like pls
it was literally a joke please remove my warning
mods are on vacation they deserve it
im just gonna shut up before i get banned for saying "ok"
lol auto mod is harsh tbf
Did Sam really ||died by accident or was she killed because, she was unwanted||?
there's a sound recording of the accident you can find
yeah but was it really accident?
I think so
i guess it's open to interpret
do items despawn? i kept seaglide next to my island base and it dissapeared :/
Is that something we find out if we play through the whole storyline, or is implied?
we find it out, but it is a side story, not a required one
explore Phi excavation island more if you want to know
ok the regular Chelicerates aren't so bad anymore but the void ones are terrifying
no grab animation :/
How do I find it out?
what
you need a frickin rebreather and and O2 tank to make a snowman??
ok that's a bruh moment
indeed
Hey guys. Isn't the HUD the Seatruck or Seamoth? As in, if I get the scanner room HUD chip, I should be able to see "search results" on the display of my Seatruck?
The HUD chip let's you see the stuff the scanner picks up
wow that took forever to find
Ik
Right?!
It's not doing me a lot of good trying to find nickel.
Just played Below Zero for the first time td
It's good
Initial thoughts: good but not as good as subnautica.
They throwin shade on alterra tho like wtf
no perimeter defense?
if you want to know where nickel is best found, ||deep lilypads (the pink biome down there)||
I've been there but didn't find any
seafloor
go deeper and you will find some on the seafloor
Also idk who this off-brand Indian drug dealer pda thinks it is, but it will never achieve the same level of greatness as the alterra pda
off brand indian drug dealer what lmao
her voice is upper class indian accent, sir
I don't care what social status the pda has, it's still off-brand
drug dealers talk more like tech support
Ah okie thanks
I could remake Mario with the budget of Jeff Bezos, and it would still be ripoff mario
I went down to ||the artifact|| but I'm guessing I missed it
oh ye i hear it
Seatruck chunky
I like the modular system but I'll probably just be using seamoth once I find enough fragments lmao
seamoth is cheats only, and then you lose achievements
and it's blindingly white, no texture
Seamoth isn't in this?
Noooooo
You ||literally talk to the precursors|| yet you can't drive the best sub in the subnautica universe...
And no I will not use 'architect' ima keep using precursors
You can use the Seatruck as a sort of "Diet Seamoth" if you want to.
It's what I do.
is there any prawn mineable lead? I always run out of it
not in bz
Damnit fish..
you have a pet fish. I do not
The actual model has a rebreather and an air tank on it. It only makes sense.
Seriously? After visiting the Phi Excavation Site, I come back to find my Seatruck inhabited by a dead Pengling. And the game won't let me in my Seatruck. Grrr!
Save, exit and reload. Should get rid of the body
My thoughts on BZ so far:
There are so many more creatures than SN, and I love it
So, how do i access this? Tried to follow along with the path, but it's still "hidden" It's where the one leviathan is circling the crystal "castle" that has a cave you can plop into for story related.
I just wandered around until I figured out where to go. But there are YouTube guides if thatās more your fancy
Oh wait nvm
Youāre too deep for that cache
Sorry I didnāt see the marker at first
Preferably :P Just the "which" part to follow as i don't know what that cache is called specifically :P
Itās accessible from seabed of lilypads
However, biome diversity (so far) seems to be lacking. I've played for three hours so far and only seen twisty bridges, kelp forest/caves, and whatever biome the sharks and big scary plated mole guys live in
I think it's cool how they implemented some scrapped SN features tho, like twisty bridges and mohawks
You're trying to access Crystal Caves right? Check out Chemical Apes on YouTube. They have a guide on how: https://youtu.be/7T9jFiadUyY
This Subnautica Below Zero guide will show you where to find the Crystal Caves Cache also known as the Crystal Castle. This architect base can be found in the Crystal Caves biome and contains the organs of Al-An's body. This guide will also give details on what you will require to travel to this location and the fauna that you may encounter. P...
It's more the distance, as it's 300 in front, not above.
You need to go back up to the lilypad biome and if you know where the caves are with the seamonkey nests, you have to find a way down where thereās roots and eventually you find a place where thereās thereās giant cotton anemones
Oh, i used him for literally any sub 1 video
Just never noted the name lol
A bit upset there isn't much mention or reference to SN besides mentioning the seamoth in the seatruck database entry
The body cache isnāt in crystal caverns
Thanks! I just did that. Now the pengling is alive, but trapped and I still can't get in. Maybe I'll try again.
Yeah, that specific one i just took. Now it's the other one.
The cache in crystal caverns is for ||organs||, donāt think you get a marker for it, you have to head down, itās pretty deep. Find a deep channel lined by the purple crystals and follow it down
Other than the few stuff I mentioned I love BZ so far
Do leviathan attack unmounted seatrucks modules?
Creatures in general shouldnāt attack unpiloted vehicles although there were some issues with a certain deep place (wonāt spoil) where they wouldā¦and idk about in the void, because thatās considered out of bound. But overall if youāre in seatruck with modules and you let go the controls you shouldnāt get attacked. Once you get the perimeter defense though theyāre not too much trouble
I got my Prawn destroyed while in base, dunno how it happened - well, leviathan is a suspect. I would be very sad if I lost my 2 storage modules too
Since Iām Done with subnautica time to do below zero
monkeh tip: just hide your tool
Are more Vehicles going to get added
Have you tried saving and quitting then going back in?
No prob.
I hate how they never mention the degasi or aurora they only mention alterra
Neither do they mention how ryley survived all on his own for an entire 4 months (i dunno some random date)
I think Ryley probably did all the talkshows
Ikr
paid off 1% of his debt
Hoping that changes once I talk to ||Marguerite|| again
It would be so easy to reference Ryley tho
U know that motivational thing abt Craig McGill in SN?
Like "Craig McGill blah blah blah... if he could do all that, you can survive one more day"
dankroot? no it was stankroot
Imagine if in BZ it was like "Ryley Robinson was on board the Aurora when it was shot down. Using the limited resources he could find on the planet, he was able to find a cure for Kharaa, disable the weapon that shot down the infamous Degasi, Aurora, and Sunbeam ships, and build a rocket to return home with. If he can do all that, you can survive one more day."
That would be amazing
yes...
Well sam didnt crash land
Didnt spoil that because everyone should know that
Yea but she is still fighting to survive
but she did.
Ryley didnt fight off arachnid kidney poachers
She would have landed in the same spot either eay
I wish there was like another fossil research about the gargantuan leviathan
oh Sam was the sister. Robin crashed
it was shot, then it crashed.
what do i do with the creature eggs?-
you can hatch them in alien enclosure, this is more late game
ahh i see thank you
I hope ryley stopped cuddle fish extinction aswell
would be cool to see a very distant sea emp in BZ
Depends. Did you release two as you played?
yes but uh-oh one got eaten by mr dragoon 𤷠oh well
Having a hard time figuring out what to do now that I've ||got the antidote and Sam's necklace...||
the machine next to its head...
how do I use the thermos?
it's for the coffee maker
Ah. Thank you.
ahhh ok
maybe it should have thought abt what it's doing first before it swam into my prawn suit drill arm over and over while i was tryna get some lithium
I released 7
Because i accidentally spawned one in
Unless there is seven then idk
do they not breed in the tank? Just realized
No
Although one time while beating the game
I found a time capsule full of cuddle fish eggs
why are you beating the poor game?
monch
I didn't really care for the seatruck much tbh
I found some purple vent area
Bruh, my prawn suit upgrades keep disappearing
Looks very cool
Is there a silent mod for the truck or a trick to avoid having the leviathans attack on sight?
Lights off maybe?
Man, it's so hard to keep track of the layout of some of these wrecks.. I have no idea if I've explored this whole thing or not
I'm just annoyed my prawn suit upgrades disappear
do i have to scan a duplicate artifact
That's what i do. It's pretty lit down in the sub 300 already, so don't need lights, but it seens me anyways and gives me a french kiss or 2.
Who knows?
Maybe a bug fix is needed soon?
sea monkeys
jk
bro my trivalve goneš
did i accidentally command him to stop following
he was patrollin my base
who likes sea monkeys?
I'm still having trouble finding that last parallel thing
I literally searched the whole dang ship
where is the entrance for the frickin thrusters
I spent half an hour finding that thign
I finally found it
Does bz have the medkit fabricator available
Think they removed it
I found the green house
I want a Pengling plushie so badly 
Merry christmas guys
Merry christmas man
hello , does resource respawn ? like for exemple "limestone outcrops" or "copper deposit" with time ? (or reload ?)
also happy xmas
I think that i killed a bumeran but no
well no, i spend 30 minutes and 2 bateries of the repair tool for the prawn
3rd game?
Yes itās called subnautica: meltdown
Where we explore the effects of Climate change on 4546B after Alterra industrialized it to mine resources.
Architect Body PDA entry is funny
Twisty Bridges mostly
I found the gigantic shrimp
blue biome with tentacle like plants above the ground
I was searching for coral and i found a huge shipwreck and a giant shrimp
yo why'd they remove the supports under the connector thing when I placed the foundation?
it makes it look weird now
this game has actual nice adaptive sound design
how do I get stalker fur?
Pengwing robot
fr?
guys how can i get salt deposite?
pick it up
Do you know where it is?
|| it lays by margerites base ||
Nice 
I feel like having a prawn suit there would break things
The Pengwings will hunt you until you release it
Or you could just shove it in a locker
hes still a baby
Does anyone know how to get below zero to enable the corsair game integration
now this is nice..over 700m below and it's just me and my seaglide ā¤ļø no "pressure"
heyy, look around there, you might find something š
ye, i know there's something here, but ima comeback here later, need to to build me a seatruck 1st
thats fair
i also need to inspect "the last know Prawn Pilot's location" or something like that
yep
but i cant find anything there...and i found this depth here just by accident, but iam armed with 5x High Capacity O2 Canisters and re-berather ....so i can explore underwater for quite a bit
holy crap
ye xD its the cheese method i used in the 1st Subnautica xD
Wow
im calling him date
now get 5 more
that would be overkill....i could but u need some space to put some stuff in xD
yeeee..but that needs Battery Cores...and there;s no point in it unless i got a charger
Prawn has a little space
storage*
and atm i dont
Moonpool will recharge it
wtf is dat?
Docking station for vehicles
nice..but i dont have that also
U can get it at the pilots last known location by scanning it there
or right...moonpool sorry, its has a difeerrent name here, but ye it needs a source of power also...atm iam charageing all my EQ from a damn Solar Panel
idfk why but getting to the pilots last known location is so damn confusing
it is as hell, iam here atm, and i dunno wtf to look for
i love wall pants
pants* got ya :]
Then follow the lightsticks and oxegen plants
probebly the pilot left em there
Bruhš¢
hmmmm ok ..gonna look around some more
p a n t s
i also need to be really carefull cuz iam playin on Extreme xD Death would suck lol
Bruh lol
What does extreme do?
u die...and its over
O
that's the fun part for me
so i make dubble the effort not to get too carless or cocky
I think itās called hardcore
Oh, you can stack them in your inventory and reload whenever empty? o.O
yes
but u need too, manualy re-fill em also once u get back too the surface
its how i did in the 1st Subnautica, a bit of a cheese but it work so xD why not
Of course :P Damn, if i knew that i could go on deep dives more often to unlock stuff lol.
xD most people just craft that one tank and thats it but nothings stoping u ffrom haveing more of em, even if its dump xD
Heh yeah. Man, such a shame there's no mods for a longer "trailer" for the truck.
if u have like the Max Capacity ones and u take like 4 of em...u can stay underwater like forever*
Yep lol
its how i got too zones u should not be in and i dident even have a vehicle yet ^^
Where is the habitat builder? I am at Delta and i've looked everywhere and i cant find it
nvm im blind its right next to the base
u can find one at Twisty Bridges or the other at the Base with The Tower
Lol
oh u found it, nvm then xD
merry Christmas everyone!
You too!
merry christmas
wow beutiful
where should i look for silver?
the Volcano Biom has lots of silver
True.
Guys is there any way to turn off weather, the clouds or anything LITERALLY to increase framerate on PS4? (Below Zero Only)
weather is a cheatcode, that also removes freezing
therefore is it possible to turn off or not?
obviously water quality=low. that one is quite heavy
with the weather cheat on, weather goes away
wait u mean i can do quality=low in console commands?
is the water looking angled? many straight lines
Let me check
yeah I recommend trying the command weather
Yes it does have
it'll say "weather cheat True"
How do u turn weather off, like what do u type if you could tell me
"weather". it's a toggle
there's also this to try: fog
Not sure it increases FPS. Maybe
Yk like cant get cold
now you can't get cold, no
Shoot
Any other console command? Such as turning off shadows or clouds or something
There might be but I don't know them
Fk well still thank you
I will have a look at the wiki: This
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Console_Commands_(Below_Zero)
If u find anything please inform me
limitshadow 10 (meters)
Limits shadows to a certain radius around the player.
Can try 1
Thatl prolly help
so type in limitshadow 1?
yes
yeah doesnt rly work i dont think atleast fps didn't go up
What is your fps right now?
I mean considering im on ps4 maybe but in general nah
Literally anything u can suggest
Bro thatās is decent,i get around 100 with everything down
ok lets not get insane here i wanna play lol toggling fog off is literally crazy
Ur on pc ur lucky asf
I actually like the fog off, so I can see really far. But then you also see the world loading
why cant i just completely turn the graphics down atleast water
Like this is torture
it's probably locked at Low
fog does nothing to my FPS
Yep
Im kinda at the point with the architect body cache
But haven't found margarets base yet
why is my FPS capped at 75? lol
Atleast i can up my fov this time bruh
Guys can i turn off like the water splashing or turn the details down
Holy sh**
Guys i made it so i still get cold and have the weather off
nice. does nocold work?
whatever I do, I'm always at 74 fps. Screen is set at 120
oh oh: Vsync command
vsync on, and now I'm at 120fps. Always.
um for me vsync 0 works better
The cutest base you ever did see
you Broke it.
Acquired
I just got it digital i didnt know u could get it on a disc
Merry Christmas, guys! Give me your best base-building tips, please. Like, first off, how do you find a big enough, flat enough space to build a big base?
as someone who's done this myself on multiple occasions, I wish observatories would connect legs to the ground when you place them by themselves so they aren't just floating
but it has air in it and happen to be perfect balance and yeah
hmm
or instead of legs, what would be better is a single thick metal pole connecting to the seabed through that one that's already in the bottom, like it would just kinda extend downwards through the glass
btw how does the thermal heating plant lily thing produce heat?
how? Yes.
doesn't really matter since 60fps is the max a human brain can perceive iirc
I used to think that, but an FPS gamer video convinced me otherwise. It's about reducing reaction time
but 240fps is definitely silly
oh also, you can see the diff between 120 and 75. Explain that
it's "smoother"
Hz is "per second" so... very similar thing
60 hz is the max an average human can tell the difference between
150 is the same number for fps
idk that's what it says on google. 60Hz and 150fps
I guess they refer to blinking and movement respectively
Cats can see 100Hz. 30Hz blink is very annoying to them
it's quora tho so probably unreliable lol
I just hope the new moonpool comes
are there mesmers in this game
what are they called
lily paddler
oh i just experienced one when going to the pilot last known location location
didint know what it was
btw is there anything interesting here
i am swimming around but i cant find anything special
definitely
pilots home, for one
guide to that:
Near the beacon, ||below, there's a trench with glowing wall plants. Follow them, and follow o2 plants and light sticks, down to 360m||
recommended to have truck MK1 upgrade
i probably went too fast with the story
Any of y'alls prawnsuit upgraded ever disappear?
yes... when I used mods. Not in vanilla
bruh i thought a table coral gave more than 1 sample
it did in old game
I'm in vanilla and ever time the game crashes or i exit it , the prawn suit upgrades disappear
for first play, also avoid steam experimental version
The best way i can desrcibe it is, the upgrade area appears as the seatruck upgrade area
whats the quickest way to get silver
i dont need a lot only 2-3 silver
Ps4:, and the build is
just below your crash site, where you jumped in, there's a little cave in the wall, with silver
One good way to get resources:
the silver outcrop to scan for is Argentite
i know
wdym crash site
I think the build is 1.12?
where you started the game
i dont know where that is, i am living at my drop pod
it's north, or away from the delta beacon
ill just go to the regular thermal vent area next to delta
time to build a base
whats the best biome to build a base in
i was thinking of the shallower twisty bridges
I prefer the Thermal Spires because it's in the middle of the map, has lots of resources and there are heat sources for thermal energy.
yes, near the island
I've experimented a bit, and the prawn suit essentially just changes to the sea truck upgrade slot everytime i put a upgrade in and then exit the game, guess that's how it is now
i'd reinstall, if there isn't a verify game files option
I'll do that real quick then.
is there a picture? where
concept model
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someone not in the company?
Looks like two large rooms combined with a sideways moonpool
video goes thru the damn survey
ye its a ytās idea
youtuberās
@eager sapphire try not to make it look like a new moonpool was announced. Now we're disappointed
a survey to collect some user input for an idea... that might never go anywhere
what?
ok
š„²
coffee
why can't i enter the prawn suit?
You can't cos it's not a standard prawn
It's just something you can't get into
why can't i kill marguerit's stalker?
same answer š
well can i do anything in this game?
It's story based stuff you can't interact with
Same reason why you can't build some of the stuff ||from her bases||
Imo (someone who got bz right after finnishing subnautica), bz is a bit of a disspointment and a let down in some many aspects.
They remove a lot of stuff, the story is all over the place, the mag deisgn is not half as interesting, and u can clearly see it's rushed.
KTM is a hater. BZ is really good. Almost as good as Subnautica. Some like it more
yes you are, you post only complaints
Hater, means hating without a good reason. I have plenty of reasons, all good and have multiple exemples to prove them.
Because, as i said, it's a really big let down.
it's beautiful, more so than OG, and really fun to play
Want to kill a person for having expectations of a good sequel after playing a masterpiece?
Really debatable topic.
Are the graphics just a tiny bit better? Yeah.
Is the style overall better? Depends on who u ask and most people will tell u no.
Mainly because there is a lot less diversity, because there are less biomes and creatures overall.
In subnautica, there was something for everyone, one biome every could lose themselves in. Below Zero doesn't have that. And some biomes are way too streched out imo, and thus overstay their welcome most of the time when u explore through them.
honestly, the only thing that really intrigued me was the large room... other than that, the gameplay doesnt really capture my attention
As i said, the graphics are a tiny bit better.
True. There are some tiny things, which are good. Like the fact the u can turn on/off the lighting/map on the seaglide separately. (Something which u can't do in subnautica) and i find that as a really nice touch.
But if u want the same feeling that subnautica gives you, you won't find it in this game.
2/3 photos are of the sky. In a game where 1/3 gameplay does happen on the land(where u can actually see the skyP. And u expect to compare that, to the sky of a game, where u are supposed to go down 2km deep? It'd be sad if the game with 1/3 gameplay land wouldn't win that
But yeah, the sky with it's aurora borealis is stunning.
damn lol
But there are other games which offer pretty skies, and i belive (if i'm not mistaken) that people don't play subnautica, because they want to stay on the surface, and stare the sky.
destiny 2 skies ā„ļø
the cove tree š¤
prettiest spot in OG
Yeah pretty crystals. Just wait to see ||the base they lead to, a base made out of a single room, which only has the purpose of holding 1 scannable item essential to the story, just that, nothing else to scan, nor any explanaition why they built 1 random room down there which serves no apparent purpose.|| Compare this to the architect bases in subnautica, where u could scan everything, and there were dozens of objects, and easter egss and just details.
I went there, and that's when it hit me, the ending was rushed in less than a few months, and they just needed to get it over with, and didn't even bother to question if it made sense or not, they just threw it there. Now let's rush|| to the ending||, no questions asked!
For me, exploring the architect basis was fascinating, i spent a few hours just standing still, and reading all the pda entries about all the stuff that i scanned. In bz, all the architect basis are, 1 room, which maybe has 1/2 scannable things inside, and they each serve just as place holders for the story, no purpose explained, no nothing.
They just are there, to hold 1 thing which u need to progress 1 of the story plots.
And the most outrageous thing about that, is that while in subnautica we had to speculate about everything related to the architects, and they were made so interesting and mysterious. In below zero, ||we have one in our head||, and we don't even learn a fraction of the stuff that we learned in subnautica from the scaning and story assembling. And the bits we do get, are handed to us on a silver platter, taking all the mystery and uncertainty than made subnauitca subnautica, away.
Okay, nice opinion. :3

Guess some just have an eye for detail and quality and are more easily bothered when those are not present in a product delievered by the same people who've previously shown they can deliever both quality and detail. While others don't, and are more keen on overlooking such things.
2020 wasn't nice to work in, ok
So u do admit all my points are valid criticism. And are now looking for reasons. The first step of processing being wrong is acceptance. And u are on the right path.
I hated the ending
made absolutely no sense
no, I think you are overdoing the criticism about 10x. There is some truth
When one steps forward, others follow in the foot steps. Acceptance in setting in.
man what are you on about, you aren't going against the flow or nothing, a lotta people don't like the sequel
Or u just refuse to accept the reality of it when it's starring you right in the face. Or as I said, you don't necessarily have the eye for detail and overlook stuff.
you're really acting all weird high&mighty type stuff
true, I would not make a good reviewer
I know. Yet there are still people who fight for it tooth and nail, and refuse to accept some crucial aspects.
I don't like you typing walls of text against one of my fav. games
I'm just wondering why you're being weird about it
people are gonna have different opinions, and you're acting like only your opinion matters
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can't go around saying people don't have an "eye for detail" or "refuse to accept some crucial aspects" just because you didnt like the game

refuse to accept their point of view...
I loved both games, but I had a preference for below zero despite the ending
I am statting crucial and plentiful overlookings which acurred during the development of this game. Such things are beyond opinions.
I think gameplay wise, ignoring some aspects of the story, below zero was almost as good as the OG
I know the dev of this game was a struggle
no you are literally spouting the most biased and opinionated things possible
it does suffer a bit from this. And the pandemic
Still, it's a great game that I love
you are saying "people who don't share the same views as me aren't fit to judge the game"
given the circumstances it was very gkod
yes, I honestly believe so, if you mean "good"
An entire room, with only 1 scannable object, which only purpose was to just progress a mess of a story, while the architect bases in the og each served a purpose which was key to the story, and explained to us in an interesting manner. They also offered easter egss and lots of interesting hints about the architect's influence and power.
Now what part of that is false.
please don't go into repeat. That is very subjective.
I agree but you can spend your holidays better than this
Yet you can't deny that it's completely true?
I deny it, that is not completely true
No, i didn't think so.
1 single difference
you've been saying the same thing over and over again
it's not identical to the OG, but if it was, I guarantee you that you'd be complaining that it was identical
I hang around here because I'm played out, but I can help with a favorite game. Why do you hang here KTM?
You do like the game in spite of it all, I think
they might just be here for the OG chat and to talk trash in this one
Part of this highlight of the rooms and scannable items are very subjective considering the location of the games they take place, function of each location, and other aspects, this comparison only conveys what you like compared to OG
beyond the objective of each protagonist
One simple, honorable reason. The hopes that they will realize where and how wrong they've gone with this game, and how much it hurt the franchise, and that in the next installment they will manage to fix and move past this grave mistake.
they do not care
I think most of them stop reading when all they see is negative
oh they read this chat from time to time, some of them. Lurk
One person complaining in a public server will not change anything lmao
Every revolution always started with a one, and the first.
Then they choose to shoot themselves in the foot, and sink one of the most successful game franchises of the 2010s.
overdramatizing there
Implying that one game has more elements that you enjoy than the other isn't going to change how much impact it can have for other person, nor does it have to be in your criteria for claiming to be inferior to OG, BZ has many admirable elements
literally
I'm not tryna be negative, but they arent gonna delete an entire video game and work on a new game just because some kid doesn't like it
his hopes are about the next subnautica game, and that's valid
they already scrapped an entire story because people didn't like it, we should be thankful for what we have now
oh yeah definitely
I'm mostly addressing the hate towards BZ
I did not say delete. And that's the definition of mixing words. I said they need to steer the ship in the right direction again, or else they will sink.
you also strike me as someone who's 12 years old and is imagining themselves as cool and badass and saying these things to gain reaction s
I dunno.. I think we don't have the real reason for the story rewrite. Nor is it our business
I'm pretty sure they said like "you complained and we listened"
something along those lines
I just think it have to be refined
pretty sure the OG writer quit
I dunno. did he write the OG story?
You have no grounds to fight my claims and u know i am right. And thus instead you move on to personal attacks which again are not founded. And I'm willing to bet i am older than you. But don't worry, u are just proving my points by doing so.
OG had a lot more time to dev. No hurrying there
True
I don't think KTM is a teen. I am 57, by the way
I write brief, because I hate typing
that honestly just makes it more sad
I had u more so at a 48 tbh.
you have brought up a single point as to why the game was bad
But i'm just gonna say this, and i will end it there. The first step this game took to digging it's own grave, was when they decided to change everything halfway through development, and pick up the scraps and reuse assets to build something completely new they didn't plan for. Meanwhile trying to stick to the same schedule. Since then it was doomed to fail. And that was the fault of management, and those who handled the story(both in the first place, and after).
I've listed many, u just didn't scroll to read them.
I suspect that was a major blow to the project, mid 2020
It didn't get scrapped though. This is good
No but it shouldn't have been on the original schedule.
that js fair
yes
They should have instead admitted to the wrong publicly. Take a step back, and rethink it from the ground up.
I have realized I am being a jerk for no reason
but would players have complained? Yes.
As an Overwatch player too. I would rather wait another 2/3 years more than expected, for another masterpiece, than a rushed let down.
they are still continuing development though
And it would have been better for the future of the franchise as well.
Fans always complain. The trick is to listen and make a good decision
there's a chance they may add new things
A tiny one
like they were considering a remake of the moon pool and stuff, that's pretty big
Showing u are willing to compromise quality for keeping on a schedule is not a good look. And bz must as well have been the reason a part (small proabably but still a part) of the player base won't buy the 3rd installment and try it.
another aspect we don't see is finance. Delaying costs money
I believe that a good update may be required over a time
That's not true, especially with such games. During live, after launch development sure. But that's not the case with Subnautica. And the reason u don't listen to players before launch, is because they don't have the full picture.
Is like asking someone with blurry vision and no glasses to guide you.
a big reason to do EA is to listen to fans. But it can also bring financing in earlier
ok so I am curious, how old are you
and thery did listen to fans, still do
And compromising and delivering a lesser product hurts the image of the franchise, and how much money it makes in the long run.
In 2 months yes. 20 currently.
Thank you but quite early.
very
And the reason the community needs to be loud, especially in this down time between productions, is because the longer we wait for the ship to be steered in the right direction, the further out to sea in the middle of nowhere we go.
ok but they already said they're working on a different project
like a non-subnautica one
that might hit EA soon. Actually this is pretty early
there are BZ updates in the future, unknown jf they're big, but I doubt they're adding more
cause they did say theyd do more
I don't expect more than fixes. Maybe more
And u can't hope for more, if u keep praising something which shouldn't be praised.
You hope for change, you need to be vocal about it, and not act as if everything was fine.
Changes could still be made. Which could work as damage control.
Based on my earlier exemple, add something more to the alien "outposts". Some more effort. Nothing to effect the story, something just to show that you care and are trying to fix the mistakes which were caused when this was rushed.
Also, took you long enough.
you are also being a jerk
No. I talked about a subject which was in it's own sphere, and attacked that subject.
being a jerk
You liked that subject, but couldn't defend it. So u went personal. That's where u became the jerk. I never went personal, and it's not my fault if u felt personally attacked when i attacked a different subject which stands on it's own.
ok but you were still being a jerk throughout the entire conversation
yeah
at least I can acknowledge it
No. For one to be a jerk, one must attack a someone. Stating ones opinion and failed expectations about something don't qualify just because you made said something part of your identity.
just don't. Can we end here?
jerk1
/jÉrk/
noun
1.
a quick, sharp, sudden movement.
"he gave a sudden jerk of his head"
2.
INFORMAL
a contemptibly obnoxious person.
where does it say attack someone

perfectly ordinary BZ vehicle
how
Feb 2020, that's how. Also fog is off
still looks beautiful without fog enabled
@eternal garnet how do turn it off? devconsole?
yes, fog command
or theres a button on the F1 screen (PC), but this probably disables achievements too
really beautiful: deep twisties with no fog
oh that's not the deep part, but probably sunset
yo I'd love to see a twisty bridges Island
like an island where the twisty bridges grew onto and stuff
it doenst look good on my console š
im using the og xbox one so
bro i was curious about the shotgun command i didnt mean to kill my seatruck
I play in ps4, its beautiful
ew
actually it doesnt look very bad
in sunset
Hey I just got the game can anyone help me?
Well, just play it
scan everything, explore further
noice
All I want for Christmas is more lead...
can u fly with the prop cannon in BZ? I've been trying for like 15 minutes with no luck
dunno. Try: prop cannon, fish, booster tank. Boost
that's not flying though, that's a 5x speed glitch
I have the stupid underwater but game thinks im not glitch, and im stuck in a wreck and cant reach my seatruck
so I need to fly up to get in and fix it
if you can, build a hatch and enter. Or save+reload
I have already saved since the glitch happened and I dont have a habitat builder
I'm fairly early on in the game
Do they respawn if killed
no
Below zero seems cool since Iām playing it without knowing anything about it
And subnautica has been done already
you aren't really meant to kill them of course. But you can
idk but i heard that in the first game yes
but yesterday i killed a celypharus and i didn't find it today
Whatās a celypharus
chelicherate, the big red shrimp
nothing there
Purple looking vent area
i was terrified of this thing but now i know they're like sandsharks
really bad at hurting you
yes. Those are cryptosuchus, "secret croc", latin
move left to render them harmless
not entirely harmless, but fragile. And noisy
they just kinda give up when you dodge them a few times
First time I saw one I ran it over with my sea truck
Sea truck op
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I hate just about every aspect of them.
especially that u respawn in then
it sounds like a good thing at first, but I've adopted a playstyle now where I just don't care if I die bc I respawn so close, so now I'm going to places I technically shouldn't be in yet since I can't get back without dying
and I also run straight up to every creature, aggressive or not, and start scanning it
I hate how I'm playing rn bc I respawn in the seatruck
so now I'm avoiding taking it with me as much as possible
the game just isnt fun when u respawn right next to where you died
defeats the entire point of dying, they might as well just make u invincible at this point
takes all the challenge out of the game
sorry, I kinda went on a rant there
I just... don't like the seatruck. At all.
Okay
comprensible


how stupid of me too think i could just craft an Architect Skeleton at my work bench lol
I'am also at the point where i have no new objectives marked on my hud ....where to go next hmmmm
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@nova carbon ||you must craft the test mode module||
Where are pieces
Like
The module looking thing
Parallel processing unit
You have to scan them inside ||mercury 2 wrecks||
Youāll need 3 scans of the parallel processing unit
Thereās different pieces of wreckage around
Most of them donāt have 3 fragments in them, which means youāll need to explore some
yup...exploration ...part of the game....no fun if u just ask for the info but too each their own guess
Whatās in it
purple looking vent area
What
Anything bad in it
Cuz if there is Iām gonna kill it
Doesnāt matter what it is
@dim lotus theirs no bad things in it
just that ill never see the word "vent" the same after playing amogus
my seatruck Is low on juice...and i still haven't found mats for Battery Core Charger ..
can moonpool be charged via solar panel?
should work ...hmm
how do i make coffee?
Idk
Coffee machine
can i put it in the thermos?
you need the thermo to drink the coffee
it gives +50 body heat i think
Thermos's are the worst implemented thing ever
Like 50 heat one time use is nothing
Especially if you consider the size of the ice area
It should be like 4 uses per
Not a single use
boy do i suck in reading a map...can't find Omega Base
This is where the Omega Base is from the Pilot's last known location signal.
bruh the seatruck can handle 250c with no issues but the seamoth dies at 70c
I assmued its like kinda there based on the location of PHi and Zero
I will look it up later, my truck has 300 depth so ye easy cheese lol xD
Just seamoth things
I was on a depth of 760m and dident even have a vehicle with me
how? oxygen plants?
me and the bestie
760 is crystal caves range
And that's like the bottom of crystal caves
Only way to get that low is to zoom from maidas base asap down the crystal and keep zooming down not wasting time with a seaglide
how do you enable cheats
What are you playing on (e.g. PC, PS4, Xbox)?
i got it working but thank you so much for trying to hrlp š
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whats the yellow biome with the big throbbing yellow/red flowers called
deep lilypad caves i think
thanks
how hard is it to kill that stupid shadow leviathan?
250 slices with the regular kinfe
125 slices with the thermoblade
178 seconds of constant drilling with the prawn
100 hits with default prawn arm
what if both of my hands are drills?
I just reliased that i got tha game with gamepass
if they 100% fully stack, 89
Hello, so i have found an alien artifact without al-an telling me about it, will i miss a dialog or something beacuse of this?
and will it affect the game in anyway
?
No, there are many more like that
ok
is there a stasis rifle in bz?
It's only available through the use of console commands.
cheats only
why? š¦
does anyone else take a ton of damage when they exit their prawn?
it's probably you teleporting in from of the prawn when it's going at 99m/s
yes you are running yourself over
maybe but it happened at the ||phi excavation site|| when i was standing still
rare accident/bug I guess
yeah I reported it
probably an asteroid hit your pc/console and then it changed 1 bit so that the game thinks you need to take damage
*sigh i bought rust but dont have enough ram... time to grind my life out on subnautica
then get a better pc
im saving up forone
or maybe... 16GB DDR4 is only $50-60 (for desktop)
can i kill a squid shark ramming with seatruck into it? too scared to swim near him
also i have thing that scares hostile creaturs
worked on chelicerate

ye
are you sure? dont wanna lose seatruck and storage module
just keep repairing
should i remove storage before ramming?
leave the modules behind
ok
save before u go and ram into a squidshark
forgot
save rn
deep twisty bridges?
nope, im near arifact place with cotton muschroms
ohh deep lilypads
i almost got killed by a spikey trap once
never going out of my seatruck in that cave again
me too
guys... you need things there. For the trap, just seaglide away
how much damage to seatruck?
spikey trap? none
i was getting those red thing is and suddenly he got me into his nest


