#below-zero-chat
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Will run away the second you knife em once
And I like it a ton because there's a lot of opportunities for both thermal and solar power
And proximity to a lot of good places
There's || a large red shrimpy dude || hanging out a lil further out towards the lilypads but I've never really had to deal with it other than the occasional sighting
Next playthrough I'm building in the crystal caves on hardcore lmaooo
rip my seatruck with depth MK1, you will be missed
good to know!
but since there's multiple areas with this biome where shoud I go?
extreme south of lilypads has the wreck
I do it near the edge of thermal spires and that way you're in a good middle ground between the twisty bridges and lilypads
feels like a good middle of the map type deal and there's plenty of heat to go around and solar panels work great because it's not too deep
is there a reason why the F3 screen never shows the option to enable console?
in Subzero, I mean
it got moved to a key: shift+enter
Hey all, not sure if this is the right place for this but is anyone perchance playing on pc via gamepass and recently updated to Win11?
The game was working fine on W10, after the upgrade only Below Zero has permission issues and can't launch. Reinstall doesn't help. It seems to set the folder permissions incorrectly or something as they differ from other installed games.
I got no idea I got it on steam but if I had to guess go to the files and try to run the game in administration mode
Cause this looks like the same error I got for fallout 3
@remote night
nice idea there
the xbox app kicks all the files under "windowsapps" protected folder, no way to get to them without messing up permissions, creating more problems
Well that sucks but that seems like how it would fix it
yeah, it could have 🙂
you can add permissions for yourself. At least on win pro
thus you aren't removing any perms
it basically treats the games as windows store apps. changing the permissions requires taking ownership of the windowsapps folder and...let's just say i've had bad experiences with that 😄
thx for reply though, might be some windows 11 compatibility issue or something...
are the games launched from windows? Or from another app?
you can right click any exe and "run as admin"
including cmd.exe. Apps launched from that cmd run as admin too
This isn't related to changing perms
doesn't work either, all access denied.
did give me an idea, tried running the game exe as system using advancedrun and then the game does start but can't load my save data because different user I guess...
still pretty extreme thing to do to run the game
could be a bug in the xbox app, not assigning the right permissions to the game folder for some reason...
other games install and run fine, so I'm a bit at a loss for this one. bit of a bummer as I was having good fun with it
I just started playing Below Zero again for the first time since the beta in May 2020, and holy heck they've changed the story SO much since then! I've been pleasantly surprised!
Does the future updates at end of announcements mean smaller content improvements?
That’d be nice
If it works with admin permissions, most likely you need to check the permissions in ProgramData.
no issues detected by the troubleshooter 🤷♂️
both store and windows fully updated
I guess it's an option to boot from another OS and adjust the file permissions so they're in line with the other, working games but that's taking it fairly far
unfortunately it doesnt, only if run as system via advancedrun
get/set acl with the other folders seems to work until the game starts and then they get reverted
isnt there a land vehicle in bz?
whats happening rn this seems complicated
nice
yep, the snowfox 🙂
hold on just whats happening
this seems complicated lol did a file get corrupted
ah
Hey, Em, idk I just imagined a subnautica halloween event :)) it would be great, a little bit of terrorífic creatures isn’t it?
how much is windows 11
upgrade is free.
Another land vehicle: Prawn
yeah, you're right, that would cause issues. store reset didn't work, re-registering would indeed be another avenue
ah
might do that
true
i dont use windows store tho
lmao yeah
Always a good idea to avoid updates early. Eg. Win 11
other than this problem it's been pretty smooth sailing so far, might run into other stuff but we'll see 😉
It’s a pile of garbage
true
Technically
No, it was made for depths
But the snowfox sucks
it has feet...
It has feet but it was designed for deep water exploration
Prawn is better at moving quickly on land than snowfox though lmao
well it works well on land and water. Better than in the old game
Snowfox has no reason to exist
In the old game i didn't touch prawn suits until I * HAD * to
huh, never tried the prawn on land even in the original
and here's a tip for prawn: Press W+D or W+A, 1.4 times faster diagonal walking
Or just grapple arm to yoink yourself around
also works in seamoth. I suspect not truck, but maybe
your mom
I hope they fix the snowfox and ice worm in future updates
It’s supposed to be a cool segment but it’s easily one of the worst parts of the game
fix what? the attacks are intentional
yeah I guess. Distance has no effect on it
Snowfox itself is also extremely clunky
No real reason to build it when prawn does it’s job way better
well, it's tied to an achievement
It’s a piece of junk
Literally impossible not to damage it doing nothing
It slides and bumps around things
Compared to prawn which you can just grapple over everything
I never used a grapple.
I gave up on trying to get the arm
IT, in the sysadmin space
I still completed the game without it.
It’s not needed but it makes the ice worm section less annoying
Also that’s the other thing
Imagine using thumpers lmao
thumper is way more pointless than snowfox
NAH NAH
You don’t even need them, you can just run like hell and it won’t hit you
it does however, thump things.
I walked through the area
I don't even bring a snowfox to the glacial basin
with just 1 thumper
Its not needed
Its lame
||The environment there has too many points where the snowfox gets stuck.||
yeah. I usually have more than enough peppers to get ||al-an's skin and then get eaten by an ice wurm||
I thought so 🙂
thx for thinking along in any case. it's probably not something that should be fixed the way we were thinking about going about it anyway
guilty as charged
haha! yeah looks like it!
I'l get to ride that snowfox at some point
in windows pro, use advanced perms and add perms to a folder. You remove nothing.
Look around glacier bastion it will be in a snowmound
There’s a lot of them
I am about to enter large shrimp territory so I need to know: how careful do I have to be if I am in my seatruck (no upgrades)?
I don't agree. Repair immediately, as there's an attack cooldown. Damage is about 30%
Once you have the perimeter defense and fire it when it attacks, you get no or very minor damage.
I entered that area. Two seconds after it, I was attacked
I don't think so. It's a little counter-intuitive to repair immediately, but it works so well
i got below zero what should i know before i start playing
Save often.
Pin recipes to your screen. Ignore grumpy old ladies telling you to leave
Have you played the first game? If so then it's very similar. The goal of the first game is to go as deep as possible though while the goal of BZ is more about finding stuff/places in different locations and biomes.
ah
i have played the first one
Are the ultra guide fins in this game?
I don't think so.
Where can I get diamonds? I need them for the sea truck depth module so it cant be a very deep place
In this Subnautica Below Zero Guide I will show you the best place to find enough diamonds to fill your inventory in one trip. We will descend down into the Deep Twisty Bridges to around 380m deep, were you will see diamonds tucked away in every corner of the sea bed.
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short answer: deep twisty bridges, 300+ m. Sounds hard, it's not, many o2 plants
The location Meatie said is the best location though IMO.
Nope, Cut in Below Zero.
Just be careful of the spiky traps that grab you in certain places, such as deep twisty
Once you know what they look like, it’s easier to keep an eye out for them
I just lost my speedrun to a shadow leviathan. I was collecting ||kyanite for my depth module and it tried to come after me, but got stuck in some crystals. In what is possibly the most idiotic move in history, I moved my seatruck back into the open cavern and it grabbed my seatruck. Still had 30%, but then I got disoriented and it destroyed my seatruck.|| Somehow I was able to make it back up to my base on the seafloor of the lily pads, but now I don't have a seatruck and I'm already 2 1/2 hours into my run, so it may as well be chopped liver. I'd have to rebuild my seatruck and get all the modules again.
for speedrun, consider flares for tossing at leviathans. I believe they go for it
I accidentally threw my flare while I was fighting a brute shark in the twisty bridges
oh, also speedrun with seatruck? interesting 🙂
I'm working up to seatruck-less.
This was my sign that I should maybe just not use the seatruck XD
I don't speedrun, but I watched a few. Using other peoples tricks is perfectly fine. Eg. not fixing the bridge
wait WHAT
I need to watch a speedrun apparently
I was trying to make my own strategies and stuff but I think I may be ready to try something more difficult
Below the bridge north side, as high as you can place it but next to the bridge, put a tube. Then inside build a vertical tube. On top of that, tube, on top of that, hatch. Go through and up
siggggh
is that a glitch? I don't think so
Guys so I’m exploring mercury 2 and other ships for the || parallel unit blueprint || but I keep losing breath any tips?
There's a rebreather. Mostly required. There's also a 215 second Ultra tank, which helps a lot. You could also carry an extra Large tank, swap underwater. Just make sure it's filled when you think it is
Ohhh I didn’t think of that thanks
Also: if you carry a beacon, it renames & drops if you die
I noticed that when I purposefully fed myself to the ice worm. I saw a "dropped beacon" like 2000 meters from the lily pads lol
What's up with this sea truck in below zero? I have full charge with the power cells and I see the hands movign on the throttle and stick when I tell it to move forward or backward but when I try to get it to move, it won't move.
It's in the open ocean
All I can do is make it turn
Can U Guys Make Subnautica Below zero For free for a Few Days?
Ok so guys I finally got the || parallel unit || do I || disable the satellite at phi island or delta ||
Weird, haven't seen that one.. Try: save+reload. Safer to just reload if you have a recent save. Save often!
delta
Okk thanks
Do you have to activate the engine or something?
100%
maybe just exiting truck fixes it
I spent a ton of resources making this truck blast it
Can U Guys Make Subnautica Below zero For free for a Few Days?
exiting it and re-entering no dice
Shut up. It's free on gamepass
Free on gamepass? oh that sucks I coulda got this for free 😦
I have no Gamepass I only Have Subnautica
then go away
Wait Where Is the Gamepass
xbox pc
Where Is it In Epic Games
it's not free on epic, but it's there
Gamepass is an xbox thing
oh ok
I cany find table coral to save my life
Tried reloading, sea truck still won't move. Is there a command I need to do to start it's engine?
Can't
Twisty bridges: 50 to 150m depth, on the side walls. They are orange with pink lights
Why Did Subnautica Be Free For few Days
You could use one of two scanners in the game
Not Below zero
Ok 2 questions, which direction is it and which direction is the supply cache?
Because I don't have a compass yet
south of the pod. supply is west of the pod
Thx fam
Okay so I tried restarting the game and the Sea Truck STILL doesn't respond to controls to move. Kinda thinking I want a refund
I dunno. try: remove a power cell, put it back
Did it drive before? could be a keybind issue
options / keybinds / reset to default
No I was never able to drive it before, powercell is max, I removed it and put it back in, no dice. Reset the keybinds. still no dice
I don't have any mods either
Below zero should get game of the year 2021
I guess time to submit a bug report, my game is hosed
My storage module exploded... I didn´t know that was possible, I was just trying to use it.
they are pretty fragile when backing into it. Use the top handle instead
Is there a key I need to hit to get my Sea Truck moving?
W
Ugh, I can't get it to recognize W. It turns but it won't go forward, back, up or down even with full power cells
W is the default key for forward. On PC
There's a "!" on the lower right side of the screen in the Sea Truck
Check in the options and make sure that your keybinds are correct.
I did a reset of the keybinds
That's a new one. Screenshot?
is your console window up? Are you on steam?
When you press up/down, does the left hand move up/down?
I saw you're a "senior modder" on the SN modding discord. Do you make mods?
Yes the left hand moves up and down when I press up/down
Well, yes. Only code though, I don't know how to do anything involving new graphics
what about sound? A rumbly motor noise rises as you press both
I just got the base builder, Idk where to build tho
I was thinking near the lilypads
Any suggestions?
yes, or anywhere near the island
Yes there is a rumbly motor noise
I tend to build near the central island. Specifically, somewhere near thermal vents lava geysers
yes but does it rise on W, and go trrrr on S?
That's pretty cool. Do you have a NexusMods page or something where I can check out your various contributions?
Yes it does
I do not. Not any more. Not since Nexus revoked modder's rights to control their own work
When they did that, I had all my mods deleted from Nexus
Oh dang, I heard just a tiny bit about that from Rdunlap talking about it. Is there an alternative site that modders are using or is it up in the air for the time being?
Fallout 3 is just impossible to run without wanting to end it all so I tend to just play modded TTW if I need fallout 3
A/D is strafe left and right. Working?
Mouse will just rotate, and move the right hand
nothing works except mouse rotating. I might have been wrong, the revving noise doesn't happen
Bindings: Add a secondary binding to "move forward", try that
the rumble gets a lot louder on W. And it goes Prrrr on S
The modding Discord is working on it, but nothing yet. Currently we're using whatever we can find. I've got a GitHub repo with my binaries, although I don't update it nearly as much as I should
If it's not on nexus, it "doesn't exist"
That would probably be a foreign language to me lol. Curious to check out what you're working on though 👌
@wraith escarp Doublecheck this number.
100%
it's the sort of thing a bad mod could break. Or out of power, but it's not that
I know you said no mods
oh! Verify game files. Are you on steam?
Well, Parts From Scanning doesn't exist then, I guess
@wraith escarp Perhaps make a new save (so that your achievements aren't disabled) and then spawn in a Seatruck and see if it functions correctly?
also a good idea.
Yes I'm going to make a new save, no mods at all
you not answering to questions isn't helpful
Yes I am on steam and I verified files.
Did I miss any questions? I'm starting a new game without mods to try this all over again. It'll take a while to get materials to get my sea truck again.
I just got || margurites pda from her greenhouse I’m listening to it but it’s all like jumbled up and breaking up like I forgot the word fuzzy is that normal? Also what do I do after that I’m lost lol ||
Did you visit the ||Phi Robotics Center and the Phi Excavation Site||?
Also, I assume that it's not normal for that to happen. Does it do the same thing if you play the message again from your PDA?
Yeah I found that cave thingy but nothing too important although I haven’t fully explored the area with the giant worm
Yeah but the logs seem fine
The one with the destroyed base inside that has the ||Spy Pengling blueprint and Snowfox blueprints|| or the other one?
Umm the destroyed base with the big circle entrance
Well at least you can hear what she's saying the second time around. Curious why the fuzziness happened, though.
The one by the satellite
All The pda audios seem fuzzy I relistened to the alterra ones and they’re also fuzzy but the logs have fine audio
Not the one in the forest with the red trees?
Umm I don’t think so
Then don't gather. Just make a new game and spawn a Seatruck from the console, just to test
Ah, alright. That's something you can do next then (find the Phi Excavation Site). It's part of the 3 main storylines in the game (||AL-AN's, Sam's and Marguerit's||).
Is || Sam and marguerites one not the same || ?
They're built into each other yeah
Oh, is anyone here on PlayStation I’m having some problems with my spy pengling controls
Doing it now
There's a channel for PS players
Probably have better luck there
Do you mean lore-wise?
yeah
Started new game from scratch, no mods. Default keybinds. Sea Truck has a !" on the bottom right. It won't respond to w or s
Ah okay, true 'dat.
How to get a seatruck unstuck?
Subnautica Version is 45391
Obviously this whole process is a pain but perhaps you could fix it with a fresh reinstallation of the game. If you do choose to do that then be sure to backup your save files.
On land? Go far away from it
Ran into an iceberg. Got out came back then the thing was burried.
Yes that's my next option to reinstall the entire game
Like it was 90% below water still but when i got back it was submergef below snow 😂😅
Any idea how many meters is enough? Aka define far away
Untill the terrain the seatruck is stuck in unloads
Let me give it a shot thanks!
that ! needs a screenshot. I don't think it's normal
Where can I find the screenshot pictures?
Yeah I've never heard of it 🤔
Broo, mods
You have mods. Case closed.
interesting, which mod? I have them all uninstalled.
you are meant to have 5 vehicle tool slots.
You literally have custom interfaces
Okay it must be stuck in there, time for a fresh reinstall
I've never seen that Alterra sticker thing you have at the bottom left of the screen.
Sorry I was jumping back and forth between the game and here I missed it
Killed the whole Qmods folder's contents. Seatruck now moves like it's supposed to

Got 1km away. Then somehow died and now seatruck is still glitched and stuck
I guess you have to load a savegame. Or grab modules, abandon it
you should save often
Can i load in old saves?
You could just make another one.
agreed
yes if u didn't press save after the bug
Save often, but not if anything is wrong. I zip my save folder, so I have multiple versions
Got my seatruck stuck inside my base once, thank God I saved before that happened
Yeah its just that you learn these lessons from running into the problems. Thats why it sucks
Me too. It's annoying that each save file is like a gigabyte, though.
yes, the only-one-save is silly
Wait what?
Assassins creed odesy has a really nice mechanism.
It auto saves very often and if you die or something happens you can chose to not just resume but pick a save from a minute or 3 minutes ago etc etc
That's pretty cool
yes, it's like that in most games
In the annoucement, the savegame is to be rewritten. It should get multiple versions then, or they are doing it wrong
And DiRT 2, 3 or 4 (idk, one of them Maybe) has a mechanism to fix corrupted saves
This would also make all the smaller bugs we come across a smaller problem
Is the game still actively being developed? Because many new players i think due to it being included in game pass since this month
maybe
My BZ file is actually only 263MB and my SN1 save file is 198MB. I thought they were bigger. Either way, it's a pain if you want to backup multiple save files due to the hard drive space it takes up.
yes, even Subnautica is. See #announcements
Finished bz
cool
can I say the n word here
no
is it worth It?
Hmmmm
up to you tho
Which Is Better Subnautica or below zero
depends
I really love the game though but sometimwa i am a bit lost. Like marguret told me to go east for about 1km. And find her there. And i couldnt remember where i was when she said that to me 😂😅
ask youtube
how abt u
Google is your friend when you get stuck.
I'd say Subnautica but BZ is definitely still worth playing
I say bz
I see gameplay a little bit
I dont Want spoiler
Correct me if wrong but bz has a huge above seawater part too
You're supposed to get that on Delta Island, so go there and then go east. There'll be a cluster of icebergs, you need to go to the easternmost one
Yeah it has several land biomes
oh Gosh Spoilers
Yeah i found it by now indeed. Ensured to stap a beacon in the ground so i can find it again in a later moment
is bz worth it Btw
I'd say it is
base on people's opinion
But I bought other games but didnt play XD
why?
Idk boring
Like Stranded Deep I bought but Didnt play it
if you never played subnautica, you will love it inside 15 min
have u even played it ;-;
or have hearth attack
i did
play until you finish it
I Beat it Already
ok cool
The end Is U going back to earth
nah u just stay there
no there is rocket
the rocket didn't even move
It Did
What platform do you want to buy it on?
laptop(the same as pc)
Pc
it's optimal on steam. There are 2 other PC variants
no Its Like u Went to a tunnel
Its More Expensive there
k, it's still better than on consoles
laptop, pc, computer
I am Using Pc
Can i have the pc role
it's just a moving picture
;-;
I got xbox gamepass. So i spent the money of this game on 2 months of gamepass. If you dont like the game then just look for an other game you want to try for the money you already spent
You sure can. Go to #role-assignment to get it
Also enables you to play both subnautica and below zero
I got Spoilers Abt it
They mean that the ending cinematic of Subnautica is actually just a 3d video projected in front of the rocket's cockpit, and the rocket actually stays still the whole time. You can go into freecam and see it
How Do u know
i ma dm you
Maybe they are just lazy To Do animations
There's a video confirming it on YouTube.
Animations is the lazy route, making the rocket move into space and stuff would have been harder
we actualy don't even know how to turn on the engine
I actually don belive
it's so
for them that they got exposed
Here's one of the videos confirming that the rocket doesn't move.
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkx8uRr0Pgs||
Hope you guys enjoy the video! I put some extra time into the editing, so if you notice any echoes or muffles in certain places, they're meant to be there! Tell me what you think.
Relevant Links:
Subnautica Trello - https://trello.com/b/yxo...
yes
Twitch : https://www.twitch.tv/expmini
VOD Youtube Channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5A0YbfIuwYkAsxu1Po4shA
Discord : https://discord.gg/TDW9p4M
Twitter : https://twitter.com/EXpMiNi
it matters this much: 0
we're an og
Then why is It Black
when U flew Up U went To Space,
does your opinion matter either
Shots fired
You gotta watch the video to get it bruh
I cant
why not?
Because None ya
subnautica is from 2014

ohhh I see because you don't want to be wrong gotcha
NONE ya business
NONE YA business]
yes we heard you the first 2 times
;-; wghy u react with That
bc the game is great!
I am In the philippines
Rip
he got exposed lol
then it is 50.76 PHP 🤔
no 582.99
no 582.99
I'm talking about how it's $1 USD for the first month like Eric said (which Google says is 50.76 php)
this dude is kinda sus
looks
sorry dude but I'm scrolling through the chat and seeing how you capitalise hurts me
Pain.
who
you
who is you
fr though you'll capitalize a random word but not a proper noun in the same sentence
Idk who is u
You is you
Who is you
ohW si ouy?
If it helps anyone, I am me
Thank you for clearing that up, Logan.
We still haven't figured out who is you though
Yeah.. That's an equally important question.
Answers elude me
found them
Logan out here doing God's work.
LOL
In conclusion Oyu is a youtuber from 2015 who posts pokemon and furry videos along with some that I just cannot understand
Another case solved for the Subnautica discord
glad we got that cleared up
logan is very popular here
waits for a moment
can we get back on topic?
moments pass
oh no
no
Two Oyus? I was trying to wrap my head around there being one of them..
This changes everything.
there will be 1 million oyu
how are we going to deal with all those oyus
Better get the propulsion cannon, boys.
get your prawns
and propolsion cannon arms
get Ur Cyclops
and drill arms
get ur cyclops shield generator
get your arms
Back out the perimeter defence
Get The Laser Gun Mod
Get the new rescue helicopter
fix the "dooms day device" inside the QEP
nope
oh ok
Last update was July I think
???
The last Subnautica update was August of last year
I dont think it got Update
yep
updates are planned for it. Bringing some BZ features
i think I beat subnautica for 3 or 4 days
Im just going off the current build
Says july 2021 for me
I Got Stuck In The Lava place underground with my Cyclops And I need to Swim up to get a new Cyclops
thats was very hard
Hmm
My Subnatica on steam says April 2021 (67816). There's no update pending
I bet its powered by a single ion cube
i bet it's powered by 1000 ion cube compresed into one
I was going off of steam too, the April 2021 thing was just a message that the soundtrack was released
It can only destroy most of the 4546 solar system
Imagine if architects didnt discover ionic technology
Kharaa probably wouldn't have been discovered yet
universe not just solar system
The Precursors still aren't anywhere near advanced enough to destroy the universe
yep
but really, it's just a natural selection 2 easter egg
Well, yes
But they have ion stuff
Also, we should get a ion cube recipe for fabricators in subnautica 3
Wiki says it's a model created for Future Perfect
ion energy is green
the doomsday device have blue liquid
if I scratch your surface, you have red liquid
This proves you are a strawberry 🍓
..I always suspected I was different 🤔
I scratched my hair yesterday, theres these white flake falling off
is it because im a snowman?
selenium shampoo, my man
If someone plays on Xbox tell me with which button I interact with the suede panel, the bridge and the juke box
What... why?
Pls
Why would i use a shampoo that uses selenium?
Help me
because that's the fix. But fine, be that way
Help pls :'(
The suede panel?
Sip
From the life pop were do I go to get to the Mr frozen big boy
oh that's past so many things. South to the island, then west, then much more
Here's a tutorial on how to get there.
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L_hhKDIvSM||
This video shows how to find the Frozen Creature / Leviathan aka the Phi Excavation Site, as well as Parvan's Bunker, in the Glacial Basin from your Lifepod in Subnautica Below Zero.
Short, sweet, and efficient, I hope it helps anyone looking. Coordinates for Lifepod: -275 / -11 / -23 || Frozen Creature: -16343 / 41 / -710 || Parvan's Bunker: ...
so just sayin if below zero is done then is there time to work on vr mode?
Dunno. For now, they are fixing bugs and updating subnautica
guess you'd know lmao
I'm a dev, but not for this or even for games
That just means you get a Discord notification when the Devs are doing a stream. Nevertheless Meatie still knows a ton.
What are you are dev for?
websites. php, javascript
Oo nice. Could I see?
I'd rather not
Ah, alright.
@eternal garnet Just curious: strictly the website's code, the website's design, or both? I ask because I'm into graphic design.
eveything, including server admin stuff. But I am not great at front end
This is now very off topic
Those are very valuable skills to have 👌
About to retire as I am 57
Too old for games? What's that? Installing far cry 6 now
Oh, well I imagine you've put those skills to work already then. That's awesome though, congrats on your (soon) retirement.
yes
Dont die of old age, die of mental EXHAUSTION less goooo
I play mostly below zero instead of the first one because most biomes you are able to see the bottom by the way I am very scared of the ocean
Thalassophobia detected
In BZ go into the east Artic, you won't see the bottom soon 🙂
Let me guess I have to go there to continue the story
I mean to be fair BZ is way less scary than Subnautica, but the vibe you get from playing Subnautica is just uncomparable
Not really, only for ||Margurit's Greenhouse||
Which is on an iceberg
What about the crystal place
Yep you have to go there to finish the game
Also lil ||shadow leviathan|| down there
There's a cheat that may help you a lot. It removes the water fog, so you can see farther. See the bottom always. On PC: press F8 F3, click "water volume". Both games. It might disable achievements.
i forget its name but that ;leviathan isnt that bad the shadow will prob one shot you if youre outside your seatruck
So before going into deep places(600m+ where shadow spawn) get the docking module and a mk1 prawn suit
I can't find the plant fiber for the mk1 or was it the mk 2
easiest to find: inside the vent garden (huge jellyfish)
plant fiber you mean teh synthetic fibers?
gud luck
Spiral plant clipping? you get that from deep purple vents, tehre's no predator there so you're good to go down there
he mean teh spiral plant thingi
there's no plant fiber?
The apical plant thinge were do I get it
Apical
again: easiest to find: inside the vent garden (huge jellyfish)
it is south of delta island
no.
no no no
Is it really a fish tho?
idk
Oh
The tree spire
bruh they are literal trees
But there are 3 leviathans in that biome
heh.
Pickel was never seen again
All that was left was a sea truck that was turned into a train
Does the headlamp work as a rebreather too?
i mean it took a ion battery to craft this bih so
Ok its a super head lamp
it says it provides heat resistance but thats all?
Ok fine its a super warmer head lamp
no rebreathing, no
beautyfull

I love how there's no diving limit for you, but vehicles have a diving limit, it's live your lungs are stronger than the metal, like if I can go at 1000m below and my lungs wouldn't collapse because of pressure, bruh
yeee
my nose and ears hurt after going deeper than 1.5m deep
Same
I have been 40m down, scuba diving. I can highly recommend it
Theres this amazing feeling of flying, weightless
in real life?!
that's cool
i live in australia so i've bee to the great barrier reef once
scuba diving
it was really cool
It looks so pretty. I've seen it on Planet Earth (the show) lol.
yeah i know it's really cool
My god Subnautica: Below Zero is such a near perfect sequel to Subnautica, it only lacks slightly in soundtrack and psychological terror
It lacks way too much horror BZ isnt nearly as scary as Subnautica which is sad, but the vame is still good
I dunno, The OST is kinda pogchamp.
The soundtrack, I think, is better overall than Chylinski's in listenability. It's not quite as ominous, though.
I'd much rather listen to Lily Pads, Cathedral, Crystal Caves, In Search of Familiar Harmonies, and a lot of other songs from Prunty's soundtrack than even Abandon Ship from Chylinski's.
lmao
○ ~ ○
but there's no difference between breathing at 4000 meters or 201 meters with the rebreather off
I've done entire games without the rebreather
Well yeah, The Seatruck and multiple oxygen tanks can kinda make the Rebreather a little pointless.
below zero got too wokey
Da heck does that mean?
it means Disciple is right-wing
It lacks unique creatures
bovine waste products.
Gonna be honest I think the only thing BZ does better is base building
And that’s only because it has extra parts
I dunno, I think the Lilypaddler, Cryptocurrencysuchus, and a lot of the other creatures to be unique.
Cryptosuchus is lame lol
It’s just a basic shark enemy but it has legs and it’s unnecessarily loud
Yeah, but it looks cool.
I guess? It has no unique behavior or anything
You complain about stuff but whay would you like added?
Snow stalkers are a new animal
unique
The game has a lot more land to explore
and a faster gameplay
The currently existing creatures are cool, and I'm not going to argue against them
But I agree with Chipperguy to an extent
BZ feels lacking in terms of the different kinds of creatures
In the ||crystal caves, the only fish there are the big shadow levis and some fish you can find in other biomes||
Whereas in the [SN spoiler] ||lava zone from SN, there were multiple kinds of fish that were only in the lava zone, it felt like an actual endgame||
I think that below zero is better in terms of soundtrack, smooth gameplay, graphics, and speed. The original is much more terrifying and the story is a bit more complete; in below zero much of the story is optional but in subnautica you're guided through everything in a natural way
Agreed
The graphics and QOL features present in BZ make it better from a technological standpoint, but the actual story feels lacking
I feel like SN will be a better game overall once the QOL features and graphics are backported to it, like the blog post says they will
I like the soundtrack from SN much more, it gives a more horror feeling in a lot of spots
I prefer Prunty in terms of listenability, but Chylinski instills a greater sense of terror
Crystal caves is really the only soundtrack that's ominous in BZ
the ||crystal caves|| felt mysterious but not scary or terrifying like the ||lava zone|| does
yeah
bring a medpack, ahead slow, and islands beneath the sea are crap-your-pants scary while even crystal caves is just kinda like "oh this is slightly creepy, sure there might be something bad here"
Exactly
But I still absolutely love both games, easily my second and third favorites
It felt much less terrifying than the original game did, and I feel like that story difference alone diminished the fun gameplay that SN had quite a bit
yeah same, they're both amazing regardless
What people consider scary or “terrifying” is subjective, have to remember that. We all have our own thresholds
Prunty's music (to me) sounds like something I'd always listen to, unlike Simon's music (Besides Precipice, still the best music on the SN OSF).
oh, that's absolutely true
Land sections suck mostly
I mean yeah, it felt like more of a jumpscare than horror when I first went into the crystal caves though
Again, subjective. I disagree
I honestly don't care for precipice that much, but I would love if it actually played in-game rather than being OST-exclusive
the vast openness of the ||lava zone in SN|| really gave a terror feeling the entire time down there, compared to the crammed/pretty ||crystal caves|| which i feel was like a jumpscare when the first shadow appeared
They’re slow and bland
Its all subjective, like Sh4dow said, that's just my opinion
The snowfox controls like garbage
Its still fun regardless, just my opinion
That’s my opinion on it
They’re very different games. If you prefer Subnautica over BZ that’s fine. That doesn’t make BZ a worse game by any stretch
I would use prawn suit over the Snowfox any day
Same. I do kinda wish we got a little more. I would've loved a major revamp of the Arctic Spires like the Glacial Basin got, but it's fine the way it is now.
They’re different only in locale and story. They have similar gameplay loops and exploration methods
I wouldn't say that, really. While the basic premise of the story is the same, you could say that for most survival games.
Yes & no. One is a solo survival-esque game where your isolation drives the sense of terror. This one you’ve got more a narrated adventure with seeking clues etc
Below Zero focuses on the beauty of 4546B while Sub1 focuses on the horror. One is a lot more sci-fi based while the other is more creture-based. The list of differences goes on, and none of them are explicitly bad
I liked what below zero was setting up with its story but it falls flat on its face half way through
Nothing really comes of it and there’s no revelation
Sam ||died for nothing|| and Alterra ||wasn’t lying about what happened||
Subnautica 3 better go deeper then the lava zone, I'm excited to beat it again on ps4.
"chipper" is supposed to mean positivity
wat
Irony friend
Gotta have the 2 before the 3.
below zero counts as 2?
Below zero is 2
BZ is 1.5.
Hardly
OH
agreeing there. 2.0
I believe it was Rose who confirmed that.
There should be an upgrade for the moon pool in subnautica 2.0 where it also repairs your vehicle but takes more power and maybe another one where ion powercells take less sea base power to charge fully like 1 = 5 or something
Wdym 2.0??
I think there is a mod for that in BZ. I k ow there is definitely one in SN, not 100% sure for BZ tho.
Oh one other thing I did like about BZ was the seatruck, at least conceptually
NO SPOILERS BUT, What do you guys think about the end of bz? I think they are probably gonna do a third game just because of the end
I just wish it was a bit faster
Pretty cool.
Below Zero is not a direct sequel to Subnautica. So no, it isn't the equivalent of Subnautica 2.
How isn’t it though?
Hi, Tunesters!
I know
It takes place after the first game
It takes certain gameplay elements from the original and expands upon them, new areas, etc
And? Fallout New Vegas takes place after Fallout 2 but there isn't a single person on this planet that considers it Fallout 3.
That would make it a prequel of sorts
Yeah, but the only relation that I can see in terms of history is that they already told you in the first game that, there’s another important place in 4546B, not only the crater
Wut.
Takes place after fallout 2 but before 3

I hope they do a third game, just to end the history in the second one
Prequel to 3, sequel to 2, but not a direct sequel. Thank you for proving my point 🙂
Below zero isn’t a prequel to anything though
It takes place after the events of the first game and it has a lot of similar gameplay elements
I'll be around after lunch if you'd like to continue explaining to someone with a Dev role how they're wrong.
Wow okay man
It takes place in the same universe, on the same planet, after the events of the first one
How did we get here?
that sounds like a sequel to me
Idk I just don’t see what constitutes a sequel then I guess?
I agree, it is a sequel. Never said it wasn't. Simply clarified that it isn't a Subnautica 2.
who cares
Chipper, apparently lol
friggin technicalities
???
sigh
Ikr?
Not trying to argue, just asking. What would count as a Subnautica 2 then, hypothetically?
apparently something that continues the story. But Ryley forever in orbit because he can't pay his bill is a little dull
Spacenautica
"Subnautica 2" would have to be thematically connected. Below Zero simply doesn't do that. It exists on the same world and has the same mechanics but has a very different feel.
I suppose
BZ still has feelings of isolationism at times though, it’s just not whenever you’re interacting with Alan or whatever
for sure, but you're never truly alone. There's evidence of people everywhere, not to mention marguerit
One thing I never understood was why BZ area was evacuated
Was it just the meteor storm?
idk.
the accident where two died, and sabotages, were very important to this decision
I never did try to dig deep into the lore of this game. I may try to do that in a creative save, just go out and read the pdas
makes sense. i'm sure they eventually figured out that they weren't alone on the planet.
not worth it to try to mount an offense against marguerit without proper combat equipment
🗿
Ice worm area had people dying a lot though lol
not if you don't go there
someone explain to me why normal chelicerate is stronger then one void chelicerate
idk how
is it?
yah
Actually healthy individual
that makes sense
you mean health points? I think tests of killing the void one weren't done a lot
Kill one, and 2 more come before you are done
no it does more attack damage
void looks weak and sick tbh
it's like 3 times bigger tho.
makes it creepier but in a zombie kind of way
weak and sick?
And usually doesn't come alone
it's got oozing pustules all over its body, it's pale, and its eyes are glassy
Wish we got those cut deep areas with the ice dragon leviathan
in my first encounter of the void where i was fricking mouth grabbed by a void chelicerate idk if it can happen normally but it was a void one and it had no attack cooldown littreally only one beat my seatruck up
No im not lieing
I was looking for the omega lab
well they exist to make you not go there
I already know that
They are good at what they do
yeah
also it would be nice to have cyclops in below zero but only accessible through dev console
hmm, thats a good idea
What would be the point of that?
too many reasons
Just generally asking.
Only accessible through dev commands
my cyclops
Something tells me that that would make a lot of people unhappy.
Seatruck in SN1 though
also they fixed the glitch i reported before where if you set speed to 0 and teleport to like: 9 -8888834324233 932. You get random blue and black drawings and stuff
so sad i actually liked it
i did on ps4
I mean... I'd be down for that.
It’d probably actually work well in sn if they made it faster
Like some of the modules never really felt necessary for BZ like the teleporter but they’d be useful to some extent in SN
Is the shore of the Delta Island a good place to build a base in?
sort of. Remember some things need to go in the water. Water purifier, moon pool
Yes, I meant in the water but next to the shore
Pick your locations well; There's a few lava geysers which are good for power
quit, and then hope the save isn't corrupt. Sorry this is a bug
will i lose my progress
if i quit do i lose my progress since the last save @eternal garnet
worst case, you lose all progress. I don't know
save more often
It's not caused by saving, the game has locked up world loading before that
It's a high priority bug
Good evening🙃
I really do think graphics should be improved on switch
At night its beautiful.
Too bad it cant be improved
I'm sure its a hardware limit. FPS drops with quality, and video memory limits textures
EUR 48.47 here in Sweden, unfortunately, so it seems to be heavily region-dependent. Still worth it for those who don't already have them. 🙂
um, maybe what's happening is, steam is deducting price for the two games, because you have them.
Yeah. If I log out, the bundle is €48,47
I entered the mining site with my seatruck by accident. I was just looking for the entrance but didn´t think I could get with seatruck
your seatruck is ded
If I got in, I thinkI can get out
yes, you can. go top of the door. Or, there's a hole in the first room that leads to thermal vents and the outside
Oh my, yes that is the case.
Sorry guys for the misinfo
Below Zero is on Game Pass as well as the original Subnautica I believe. I was mad to figure out I payed $30 for Below Zero and beat it then not long after to see it on Game Pass.
They did pretty good though, so what can I say…
save every 15-20 mins
No worries, easily done. I've got them both on Epic, so if the pack had been that cheap on Steam I'd have doubled up for redundancy. 😄
the weirdest thing happened today
so basically i was just chilling making my way somewhere to create a thermal plant yk the usual
i get into my seatruck and my disconnected sleeper module randomly explodes above me
it was nowhere near me either
near eye jellies?
at the starting biome
corrosion, not enough wax
i mean i never used that thing anyway so it doesn't matter but still i made a plasteel ingot for that thing
It didn’t even occur to me that it was that cheap cause I had them all minus one OST. I clearly didn’t pay attention to the math associated 😂
Hey there, I was wondering if anyone knew where the save files are for the xbox gamepass on pc are for below zero, i've honestly looked everywhere nad nowhere I search has an answer
Have you checked all of the locations on this page?
https://savelocation.net/subnautica
Yeah unless the below zero saves are stored with the normal saves
something like this:
C:\Users[user]\AppData\Local\Packages\UnknownWorldsEntertainmen.SubnauticaBelowZero_bh1f6rvenfkm2\SystemAppData\wgs
Ahhhhh I didnt think to check in the appdata, I was looking in all the normal places, I already had enough trouble getting into the windowsapp folder
My bad. That's not for BZ, though the locations are usually similar. Hope Meatie's suggestion works though.
Wait I did check in appdata but I just looking in locallow since it was the only subnautica and unkown worlds files I could see, im checking in that one right now
Hmmm if it is the saves it doesnt have the same format as subnautica, just a bunch of folders and files with long strings of # and letters, nothing that says outright savedgames or slotxxxx
no, totally different format
Ahhhh I see, well my next questions are probably better suited for the modding discord, long story short got BZ on game pass, went through a long process to access files to mod it, followed a guide to put the files outside of windowsapp and now it doesnt read the saves but I can mod it
Honestly the few hours its taking to get this to work is more then the hours I have in the save
But im stubborn
I don't know if you can mod that version. But I don't know that you can't
Yeah its all good, I just wanted to get snapping into it since I went through subnautica with it and now I cant live without neatly placing lockers and such, ill get over it, you were a big help in finding the saves though thank you
If you use this logic for everything you are never buying a game again
It’s just ironic it came on Game Pass right after I beat it.
I suppose but you should never be afraid to get a game. There is always a chance it will go on sale or enter a service or be free on epic
I’m not, I just do my homework before I purchase one.
Lot of games go on sale of course.
It’s just bound to happen as you know.
Was it near twisty bridges
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scam
I buy only games on sale or very cheap
Take solace in the fact that you can use mods without it being a squamous writhing nightmare, as it would if you had the MS Store version
xd
god
is
Can I tow my pod around?
I accidentally found the crystal cave. Just to know how careful I have to be, is the leviathan near the entrance through the deep purple vents ?
Not at the immediate entrance. It's a tad further in.
It’s really hard to avoid them, they are extremely fast, be careful.
Ok, does perimeter defense work with them?
Yes, extremely well. If you time the shock right then the danger posed by them is almost entirely gone.
Yeah, with perimeter defense, they can’t do much.
Yup. With the module they do like.. 5 damage to your Seatruck. It's no biggie.
anyone know what version of the game is on gamepass cause im trying to use the dev commands but the xbox one isnt working
to enable it
Dev commands were removed from the game
What biome
🎶my meat stick brings all the girls to the yard!🎶
🎶and their like is that teriyaki large?”🎶
🎶damn right look all that large🎶
🎶eat it with all your charge🎶
aahhhh ok well shoot
ded chad
The longer I play Below Zero the more I like it than the original. Below Zero feels like a proper game and so much of the original Subnautica just feels like a proof of concept to me
Below Zero looks so much better and less bland, the biomes are beautiful and it's always a joy to look at. The Base Building is so much better. It feels more polished around the edges.
I honestly think that a third installment would just be perfect. If Below Zero had a bigger map and maybe some more aggressive creatures to balance out the new interesting ones we got like sea monkeys it'd be a wonderful game
Like the only thing I can really say that I like better about the original is that it felt like it went deeper with multiple different layers (BZ felt like it went one extra layer deep in certain areas), had a bigger map, and more leviathans. Since Below Zero in my reading was supposed to be a smaller experience by design (To be essentially like an expansion pack of the first game rather than Subnautica 2) it feels like that's just because of circumstance.
BZ is the better game. I said it
I agree with everything you said 👌
Yep,
I love the change of pace to the original, as there seems to be (as I’ve only played a little of it) no major need for a rush, like in Subnautica where there was the Kharaa bacteria and the imminent Aurora Explosion / Radiation, along with less Leviathans, therefore less need to worry.
I also love the QoL and Landscape changes, as Protanly said, they make BZ better than the original (in my opinion) as most things are fresh and new, with a few items from the previous game so people that have completed Subnautica feel right at home, along with throwing enough new content into the mix (such as Squidsharks, ;-;) to give a new experience.
Is there a "Suggestion box" anywhere?
Press F8 when you're playing the game to send feedback.
wow there's a lot of long messages lol
Below Zero is just that good 😏
agreed
subnautica: "i can't find enough titanium, i always have to go to the dunes to get some" subnautica below zero: "EVERYTHING IS MADE OUT OF TITANIUM, THE PLANET WAS ALWAYS MADE OF TITANIUM"
soundtrack wasn't included for early access players?
Steam be like: MoNeH
well it's steam
it's just music
from the game
like the background music as you visit different biomes
personally i don't mind paying for it but i thought it'd be included if you supported bz from the beginning
Different strokes for different folks
Wait so Your playing subnautica whith music
funky air*
God game
why was i expecting that
does freedom mode give achievements?
Only survival and hardcore gives achievments I think
survival ain't that hard
yes
Freedom, Survival, and Hardcore all give achievements.
Using Console Commands will disable achievements, so if you want achievements, I highly recommend not using cheats.
im having major terrain loading issues
Who should I email/DM/contact if I had questions regarding coordinating philanthropy events or seeing if the company would even be interested in participating?
