#below-zero-chat
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Looks like this?
Well there is a blizzard
Hm.
Oh hold on
There should be a large claw shaped ice formation near the side of it
This???
bruh i need to go past 2 void shrimp to get to an alien artifact
That should be it, I'm horrible with directions
K
is that where magureits greenhouse is
Nope
Just upload the geometry dash practice song and they’ll start dancing to it
Delta not omega
No its near omega as well
what biome is under the base
Arctic and Arctic kelp
Let me go into nodamage to see
where can i find the ||frozen leviathan||
west arctic?
No near the big mountain and where you start east i think
Very back of west land mass near past phi robotics
Purple vents are beneath this area
||and wheres phi lol||
Oh than i am at wrong one
West land mass
ty
What ventgarden is best for a base
Nope insidea a vent garden
go pet the fish
Ehhhhh no thank you
it wont bite
Yes it will
do it
I dont have a sea truck to zap it with
I died
your bad at petting fish
^^^
Both hit me at once no chance for even the animation
I beat one up with a prawn and moved it far away
I didn't have a vehicle i petted them and died
The other can be evaded using some 200iq evasion tactics
Or they can just be z a p p e d
Parkour on the ice
kden
but why
I dont know
cool 👍
do i need to get up there to go to phi?
Sometimes i die and it shows that i lost some items, and sometimes it just shows that i died. Is this random?
I think so
Isn’t phi at the entrance of the glacial basin?
idk lol i have been looking for so long and cant find it
I just used a yt tutorial by indie games, i made it on foot no cold suit
thanks
You don’t have to cross the bridge to go to Phi
The ||fabricator caverns || has 2 || shadow leviathans || right next to eachother.
thank god lolok good to know
There’s other important things across the bridge but you go thru a cave to reach Phi
Guess it was too easy to avoid the leviathans in the first game so they just throw them at you now.
hello
Who else finds the old levations more scary then the new ones
me
That's no where near Phi Robotics
well hello
Anyone know if there's plans to add HDR support, so we can experience the full dynamic range of the lighting?
well sometimes
It'd be breathtaking I bet
Is there someone here who knows with more certainty?
someone please add ray tracing
That's a lot less likely than HDR
Especially full raytracing rather than the hacks RTX cards do
they might get back to you guys and maybe implement it
The reaper lavation is alot more scary then the shadow or the celeltas if thata how its spelled
The reaper just likes to yell
and hug
Imagine if you could make extra long moonpools
as someone who has litteraly every phobia that makes subnautica scary, (aka the expert on being scared) those god damn shrimp sharks are scarier imo
celicerates
Has anyone else run into a bug where you can’t dock the prawn suit on the sea truck docking module. Saved and quit while it was docked, then when I loaded again, my prawn suit fell off. I tried making a brand new prawn and a brand new module it still refuses to dock.
100% yes
No I'm on switch and the game just crashes every once in a while
can someone help me navigate the glacial bay?
Basin or bay?
Across the bridge or not
idk thats why i need help i dont know where to go
I can't help you if you don't know if your across it or not
I like that they got rid of the sea moth and replaced it and the cyclops with the sea truck
im on the bridge
Well turns out I’m actually an idiot and had to put the docking module on the sea truck before putting the prawn on it
But I hate that they made it so you cant customize the inside of the seat ruck with lockers and stuff
on which side? the dock side or across the bridge?
Dock
There should be a cave not across the bridge
i already found the architect generator btw
Well that's across the bridge
Anyone else miss the lantern tree
Oh well tehn i cheated an just jumped accross with the prawn
It is
Yes
Well go back
Oo never found it then I'm dumb
I have noticed that two of my shadow leviathans disappeared.
I can see their mark when i use the radar room but when i reach the place where the leviathans should be there is only an orange spot.
Miss as in walked past it and did not notice?
there are lantern trees in BZ
I'm very clue less lol and my inventory was full at the time
what are you looking for?
Nothing just continuing the story
Odd thing with full inventory you can still add batteries and they appear once you have free slots
Also is 4 bio reactors over kill cuz I have 4 lol
are you a prepper?
I dont think I just do
do you play The Isle?
Also is it ironic I found the golden trivalves and not the normal ones first
No
another dinosaur game?
No
hmmm but your icon and name
Tho I have watch all the jurrassic park and worls movies 20 times each
ok that qualifies
I actually had some freaky shadow incidents in my last playthrough .... did the 2 deep places with just tanks as was playing without a build tool and so had no deep vehicle upgrades
lucky I upgraded to booster tanks .... does not leave much space when you have 4 of them on you though
after build mats I had room for 1 first aid kit
and a tether tool to zoom back
i wanna base in the ||tree spires right underneath the ventgarden||, but bc i hate them i wanna kill the ||chelicerates in the biome||, if i kill them using the instagib cheat will they respawn?
No
so, just to be clear, if i kill them, they wont respawn and i wont have to worry about them in that biome ever again?
Yes
ok thank you so much
eat that u monster
I just finished the game, but I am missing 1 achievement
can someone who actuall knows the glacial bay/ basin help me im lost and dont know how to get out
I still have trouble finding where to go in that area
I killed that thing with a prawn suit with no upgrades on it
Felt pretty good afterwards
i have searched a while and i cannot find the frozen leviathan
dude same
I just need the || finding the cure || achievement. Probably try getting it tomorrow.
|| I also wonder how Robin thought about getting off of 4546B before she met Al-An. Like say if she actually found her sister's body. What was she supposed to do then? ||
Can you disconnect individual seatruck modules?
Yes.
The entire || motivation of risking her life on what seemed like a one way trip in order to get answers is weird ||
yes, just grab the bars on top to separate
hi
the cure is in one of the cracks and a spy pengling is needed to get it
I do agree. Like how did she think she’d ||”find her way back”||
maybe alterra would get her back?
Also that pengling map imo was pretty awful to find that “special thing” I had to watch a video
Nowhere near where the map was pointing
idk i just like the fact that subnautica bz made it such that the spy pengling was made useful becasue like first, it was just for ores but now its the anitdote
Spoilers-but yeah it’s nice (other than how many of the little cubbies were just quartz, ugh)
well yes but still
but subnautica bz story is all over the place
theres like 3 diff storylines in one
Agree
Even og Subnautica is sorta non-linear
but still it had one main goal
Was the blue tablet that Preston was chewing on ever used?
No
I think it was just a nod to the old game
Maybe
idk both made use of it
It existed but cut
I've heard Shadow Leviathans were meant to grab you vehicle,was that ever added ?
Yes
Its like reper levi
I feel like bz Leviathans are less iconic but so much cooler looking
Yeah
||Ice worm|| is so cool
Agree
I feel like ||Ice Worm|| will eventually be the Reaper of BZ
At least on levels of how iconic it is to the game's history
but ice worm spawn only in the arctic spires area
I wish there was more to do on the ice lands
Can you build on them ?
Thank god
but i wish there were reefbacks
I liked them a lot,but the glow whales are a good replacement
Glow whales are nice but they're not as good yea
If glow whales were more common
they should also add like the riding mechanic to the reefies instead of glow whales
If they were bigger they'd easily be my favorite leviathan
vent garden
I love vent gardens but again I wish there were more common
Didn't play the game yet so if ur trying to tell me that's where you can find bigger Glow Whales thx ig
well yes
My god
Which sorta makes it boring
I plan on making a pogging BZ creature,like i did the Reaper,which one should i do ? :^
Squidshark
How would i do the mouth-
I would've thought that'd be the easiest
hello ||I build alans parts but there is no way to start the transfer. is there a known bug to get softlocked? Ive looked up on yt vids. and I dont have a button/sign to start the transfer process.|| any help or restart the game?
so the body is alr built right?
ventgarden, lol
||all build, all 3 fabricators in that facility are used. I know where to stand to get the button to start but it doesnt even appear on screen|| /SPOILER
hmmm maybe save and reload the world
spoiler
put a spoiler on that
Huh
how?@carmine bobcat
||
I forgot Vent Gardens were a creature not a biome
That would cover the wholle message btw
put || on both sides of a message (hold shift and press the button above "enter")
well yes
im assuming your on a pc
If you wanna cover specific parts just use || before and after the part you wanna cover
||this is a spoiler||
||Like dis||
no mobile
special characters has it
My phone just has it as a symbol,i assume yours does too ?
yea lmao
Is there an equivalent to the Cyclops in BZ ? Like a massive submarine that can be used as a mobile base ?
ig just expand the seatruck
cyclops cant be spawned in bz i think
but that would be commands
Yes
seamoth can be spawned in using commands
I love the seatruck
its just glowy white but it works
It's perfect
Rlly ? I thought they were totally removed
nop
Huh
You can use it as a base or separate it
commands still work to spawn seamoth
The Seatruck sounds so cool
i feel the seamoth has more like a slim look to it
seatruck looks a little bulky
It needs to be though
To fit things
But I agree that the seamoth looks nicer
yea but those are the modules to fit stuff
but the base one isnt as useful cos its bulky and cant fit into as many gaps
I suppose so
But then bz is built around the seatruck being able to fit in places
And regular subnautica for the seamoth
yea ig so
@carmine bobcat finally figured out how to mark as spoilers. thx
kk
Im sad that the seatruk can only 150 m or how he says
you can
U can but u need lthium
Alright thank god
And i cant find it without dieing
Idk how rare ores are in BZ so i might wanna see myself out and come back once i've bought the game
you can find it all over the ||purple vents|| i think
or in the ||koppa mining site||
ore are en mass no worry to run out of stuff
Where is that ??
||in the thermal spires, i would suggest looking up a video bc its kinda hard to find||
@regal dagger you can reach || mining site easy when exploring around the island. just look down and you see the entrance||
Ok
@regal dagger || east of the island (about 400m away)maybe little south, are purple vents ||
whoooooo, started a new playthough yesterday bc i heard the game got fully released. just got a seamoth
2 hours in
my mistake
naaa the small engine unit reminds me of the moth too. called it moth at beginning a lot
no i litteraly was tihnking seatruck when i was typing, it was just a typo
ok so i remember now that another thing that contributed to yesterday's failure to explore the crystal caverns was that my prawn didnt have the depth module, so that + shadow =ded prawn
i think I broke the game xD
- terrain stopped loading in properly (only the base terrain, but nothing else)
- it is stuck on saving
- I cannot leave the game without killing the task
BUT the bug report function works, so I used it ofc :p
Yeah that’s a bug
Wait, where did it happen?
@fervent nebula where did the terrain stop loading for you?
I SWEAR
i was swimming around in the twisty bridges
Hm guess it can happen anywhere
only half an hour of progress, people have lost more than that, I guess I am gonna kill the game, i do not expect anything to happen
Yeah luckily I had saved 4 minutes before it happened to me
where did it happen to you? xD
Leaving Marg’s base in the lily pads
ah oof
well I am still a fan of an autosave option, I wonder why that is not a thing :/
crashes or other critical bugs can always happen, probably in any game that is more complex than tetris xD
Auto save isn’t a thing cuz you can soft lock with it (especially in freedom mode) but you can use mods for it
so when's the update when we get a lava lamp for the base
i got so depressed when i saw the seatruck
me thinking it could atleast go 250m underwater but nooo
laughs in 1000m module
it used to be even worse because the moonpool was at 300m and was the only way to create the depth module so you either needed to make the prawn which could only be found unconventionally at the glacial basin and Mercury II or travel to the mines which is also 300m
ok at the start of the game ||alan makes a beacon marker called "architecht artifact x3", i went there and i only found 1 water tester? where is the other 2||
Or try to swim blindly from your seatruck when leaving it at 150m
You gotta find the other 2
X3 is the name of the artifact not the amount
Disregard my first comment where my mind blanked super super hard
I probably shouldn’t have speedrun so hard lol
fortnite
how do i do spoiler tags in here?
Is there anything to the crystal caverns beyond Alan artifact and kyanite?
Like anything I need or should check out, like a deeper biome or is it just all dead zone from here on out when it comes to progressing through the game?
is it weird to have multiple storage's?
Why would that be weird? It's not like everything you have would fit in one. Not to mention organization and so forth.
I don't think it is. but I personally use the big room and add a lot of storage so that I won't have to make multiple multi purpose rooms
i typically stuff my lockers in a I corridor
i have plenty of storage lockers
use multipurpose room for other things, like farms or bedrooms
I'd recommend having around 6 to 12 large lockers in one multip purpose room and you'll be sorted
So that's a no on there being anything worthwhile in crystal caverns beyond what I mentioned then?
You mean the artifact for Alan that gives you the organ recipe yeah?
||no i mean a base where you make alan body||
But
Spoilder, on the way to the fabricator base your gonna meet multiple leviathans so be ready
multiple?
Yes
I got attacked by like 3
i wish seatruck had a fridge module
Oof I must've just missed it
Pretty bummed that the shadow leviathans are the big scary in this game
But I wish there was more to do with him other than just make him
Tbh just basic reaper from sub is better than anything I've seen thus far
ive only played subzero
Shadow leaviathons are cool but feel very weak sauce for such a supposed heavy hitter. The vent dragons look neat but do nothing but swim aimlessly like the bone sharks from sub and whatever those stalker replacements seem to be similar in that way.
The squid sharks are neat tho, they're the only thing that feels like it fits the proper balance of how scary/cool it looks and how dangerous it actually is.
The leviathan in first sub killed me one hit. It's so easy to dodge the shadow levi even tho if he does attack it takes like 2-3 hits to kill
Oh and also, the sea truck is...well, disappointing to say the least now that I've had a good chunk of time with it.
Very
Like hey, what if we took all the bad things from the sea moth and the cyclops and combined them with next to none of their good things?
Like just why?
Yeah
Even the shape makes 0 sense literally none
I wish we could tho bring back to life mercury II
The seamoth shape is ovalish, ie very cave adapted while the sea truck is boxy and oddly bulbous.
so i pretty much jumped in the game blind
Bruh I'm playing subnautica
But it's just there sitting
You think I'm staying on land for longer than 5 mins?
Gtfoh with that obligatory boringness
Yeah
I was wondering why the landing pad is marked by the beacon.
I want the story so now I gotta drive around an empty white boringness with maybe some creatures I can't do anything about or to or really anything with? Like come on man.
Exactly ikr. It's so dead it's disappointing
Idk, I don't mean to rag on it, because I truly enjoy this game and subnautica as a whole so much but dang dude. Being on land in sbz is like doing an endless escort mission with no clear objective until you stumble into it.
Dude I wanted to adopt a snow lion or whatever they are called
The babies are so cute
Yeah
I somehow missed the alien containment scan in the ship and thought the aquarium module was gonna be something super cool to replace that and then I was like oh, it's literally just a fish tank, like the aquarium I built on my cyclops only less cool and it makes my seat ruck even more unwieldy.
I've gotten most of the creature eggs and I'm surprised I can have a the black sea monster whatever it's called in my Aquarium. But not the snow lion
Which on that note, am I the only idiot who thought the sea truck would bend more like a snake, ie making it easy and smooth to handle despite its potentially ridiculous length?
Yeah
Not be some rigid pillbox
Like why tf do they even have rubber flexible looking connecting parts like a train just to spit in your face about it?
I don't mind the Sea Truck, it's the Prawn that doesn't have a clearly defined role in BZ.
I just can't with the sea truck, I'm always banging the sides of caves with it and I swear I can probably count on one hand how many times I did that with the seamoth. It's annoying especially considering their love for tight cave systems in this game.
Yeah
Lol wuht?
Is bulk resource gathering capabilities and a greater depth not clearly defined enough?
Drill a few resources, but you can finish the game without it.
bruh it looks nice
Plus easier to hide away and dash away than sea truck potentially
It does, and it's fun, but less of a defined role.
Lol yeah. But you can say that about a ton of stuff in subnautica, that doesn't mean it doesn't have a clearly defined role.
It has a role, just not one born out of pure necessity and nothing else.
You don't need the thermoknife but it sure is helpful
You don't need an ultra high cap tank per se but it's helpful
It looks nice but my multiple aquariums and home garden in my cyclops looked better and didn't make it more difficult/annoying to pilot my vessel.
its worth
Like if they add the snake bend thing to the seatruck like any sensible person would, the seatruck might just have the potential to be an awesome seamoth cyclops hybrid like they were clearly trying to go for.
you dont actually need anything in the game
to just survive
all u need to do is grab fishes and cook them
and drink bladderfishes
I think sea truck should be used as a mobile base. You have fabricator, you have storage, you have prawn dock. You go somewhere, leave the sea truck, go into the prawn, explore. When you have full inventory or need water or food you go back to sea truck and you don't have to go all the way back to your main base. The only thing you need from the base is recharged batteries (unless you have this fancy module which recharges batteries from heat). I think sea truck wasn't meant to go deep into caves.
Lol it definitley was though
It's clearly meant to be a hybrid of the seamoth and cyclops hence both not being in this game and you having the option to turn your seamoth rip off into a cyclops rip off whenever you choose.
Maybe not all the little twisty caves...
Sure to an extent obviously, but again, when they are big enough for the seamoth to fit through easily and clearly not too small for the seatruck to fit through, it would seem the devs are giving the green light to go.
The problem is yet again, the shape of the seatruck is so odd that it doesn't fit as smoothly with the contours of the caves. And this isn't even me saying with modules. This is purely just the seatruck as is compared to the seamoth as is.
Which on that note I'll leave by adding, the fact that you need a whole seperate physical module for storage and not just a simple upgrade module to insert is pretty lame (especially considering the name is seatruck and trucks are all about having storage/carrying capacity TO BEGIN WITH). Granted it is a much larger amount of storage but still, kinda meh. I'd just personally take an upgrade insert and keep maneuverability than more storage than I really need and less maneuverability.
i miss my cyclops
it was a driveable base i miss the fact that i didnt need to think of food or water all the time becasue growbeds were in the cyclops without problems so plant some food and you're good to go, I dont feel like i get the same with the seatruck because first you gotta scan and craft the truck, which is fair and all, but to get the compartments you gotta find, scan and buld them aswell to get extra storage, i dont like that but thats just my opinion
The thing with the cyclops was that it was too op. And the cyclops needed 9 scans and that the same for a 3 long seatruck
With the head counted
and yet becasue come within range of say a reaper or a ghost levi and it would be destroyed quickly, plus all the scan thingys to the cyclops were in the same area or atleast most of them were, and yet with the cyclops you got: storage, docking bay and a lot of room to make a mini base which was nice instead of having to return every now and then to get food and water when you traveled to underwater lake and forwards
The thing is you never needed a base after getting the cyclops beside charging (or thermal upgrade). So now there is more uses for a base.
seatruck makes for a semi decent base too though, and its really durable too
probably stronger than prawn tbh
would be nice to have hydroponics segment. or atleast a storage segment with fridges
good thing salads dont spoil...
So I lied I'm back. Just finished going to the fab base before realizing it was a mostly pointless journey.
Below zero worth it for 30 bucks or should I wait for sale
I went in semi blind into subnautica so I might as well go blind into subzero
@steady laurel what the hell you talking about cyclops is not OP, it's slow, is quite expensive and can be easily destroyed by leviathans
yes
Something you said reminded me of a major issue I have with the seatruck, particularly since it is again clearly meant to be a hybrid replacement for the cyclops and seamoth. Despite its sections allowing it to reach an absurdly unwieldy length, there is no way of adding cameras to the damn thing to better see for backing up and so on. Like why? Just why?
@cosmic sage
Cameras was a big feature of the cyclops yeah
there was a back camera, it got removed late probably because of issues. It may well return
Bruh seatruck is a clear you gotta take what you can and work with it.
Clunky doesn't mean it's bad really
debating cyclops is pointless
You'll def wish you had the seamoth or cyclops 100% of the time instead of the truck
I'll still get the game soon
Truck can be useful and I think with some reworking can truly be just as great or greater than the previous vessels. Also yes despite its flaws subnautica below zero is definitley worth $30 imo.
But my first thing after the prawn will be to get the docking module for the seatruck and depth upgrades as without grappling arm the prawn is kinda immobile
The main advantage of the cyclops 2as that it had the same default depth as the prawn, making it convenient for early resource gathering
Haven't finished it yet but to me, it still has enough of the subnautica feel to be worth $30, especially with a nice fresh coat to that old charm.
Agreed, also imma tell you right now to be disappointed by the truck docking by comparison to the cyclops.
Thats also a fair thing to mention
There's no way to go from the truck right to the prawn. You have to get out then get in and vice versa when you dock. Not a major draw back but kinda annoying considering.
Below zero what are some places to avoid
There is? What leviathan spawns there
Everything else is kinda small potatoes
I mean with a stasis rifle I am a literal God
Idk, I didn't even see a leviathon
Just a suped up reg sorta reaper esque class dude who ripped me a new one from a few hundred meters all the way to the surface. Ate my truck, and then me.
Not everything borders the see tough the world edge also has a land part I 5jink
@proud linden ||it's the reaper ripoff but blue leviathan in the void||
||capacapaceratac idk||
Lmfao that name tho
It's that shrimp shark looking guy but he was pale, ie I'm assuming sick hence the dead zone. Hence way more aggressive and deadly, ie chasing me from deep down to the surface and then some until he killed me.
But yeah, buy the game and enjoy it as best you can making the most out of it and pray for updates and maybe even dlc this time. Be prepared for some disappointments/let downs but it's nothing that will totally ruin the game or anything like that afaik.
There's also a squid shark
that was not the impression i got, it has attacked me three times and all three times it would hit me once, then left me alone
Well idk but that dude hated me bad lmfao. You're talking the one deep in the deadzone not the dude by the see through mushroom tree thing right?
@cosmic sage
its not the one in the deadzone i dont think i have been there yet
yes. When you see an obvious whale, go ride its head
i mean i went to an area with no creatures but i didnt get anything from the pda or any levi attacked me
Idk but I really hope so. Pretty sure glow whales don't count and are meant to be the reefbacks of this game but they're not nearly as cool. Neat but pretty meh by comparison, plus I feel like I rarely ever see them.
i mean reefbacks were leviathans
Oh okay then yeah technically
I forget leviathan is reaper and up, I always think ghost, emporer or larger as leviathan
There's a noot fish the f*ck is that
noot noot
Does it make noot noise
Why does it not make trumpet sounds that's so sad
Nah bud you'll know the guy I'm talking about when you wake up back in your base after he mercilessly hunts you down until he kills everything you've ever loved lol.
it has punny descriptions. Also cook it
ah ok i will wait until that happens
Personally I'd prefer a skeleton fish called doot doot
Is there something like the ||aurora where I will have to go to get stuff, I'm assuming the research bases or smth||
Yeah I legit dipped my seatruck's toe into the deadzone and not 2 seconds after the pda told me I was in the deadzone did the dude clip through my truck and then proceed to bite chunks out of me until there was nothing left while I was super charging my speed trynna get outta there.
yes
||not that one that's not nearly as dangerous||§@eternal garnet
ah ok
I straight up saw him clip through and immediately paused and sighed deeply for I knew I was already dead lol.
||is it dangerous to go to outpost zero||
i cant find anymore monkey nests, i need more fragments from monkey nests, this is driving me mad
I feel like it's best not to know. But ok: ||No it isn't||
They are always at the same place and there are 53.
||Well that makes finding the prawn easy||
If you can't find something don't worry, they seem to scatter an excess of fragments at the bottom of the floor in various biomes, particularly in story important areas for obvious reasons.
So don't feel like you have to rely on the monkeys
Imagine monkeys swarming your prawn and ripping off its arms @proud linden
And stealing the power cells
That'd make them dangerous
How many Mercury II story PDA are in the game?
i found the fragemnts i was looking for and now I'm ready for my venture into ||the crystal caves with big worm of the great succ to see whats beyond it|| wish me luck
Bring the gods gun
I am not going to buy this game I am shi**ing my pants, they removed the stasis rifle the only thing that had me feel like a God and kept me safe oh God no
I will have to face leviathans without the stasis rifle
I am scared
...
All the best. Would recommend making sure that whenever you decide to exit to get resources or whatever that you park your truck in a safe place where the big sea centipede can't get to it or it'll continually attack your truck until it blows up and you're done for.
Actually I take that back, big sea centipede conjures a way cooler less accurate mental image than whispy black line with glowstick mouth.
I hear stasis rifle is obtainable with a cheat code
Honestly you're fine. Everything in this game is kind of a joke except the voids that legit only exist to keep you inside the game borders. Which makes them extremely lame now that I know that.
Like I said, one reaper from sub feels more potentially deadly or scary than everything in this game thus far other than maybe the whispy lines which are about the same level of threat feel that the regular reapers had at the end of the game.
Honestly I agree, but I think that's also due to how tanky the vehicles are.
So again, still not much. And again, still very fun, but ya sadly not really as scary or thrilling imo.
Prawn can take 4 hits from a Shadow, making their attacks little more than a nuisance.
Reapers are also pack animals in subnautica
Usually, you find them in groups or close to other members in opposition to the ghost leviathans
No they aren't lol
Yeah I could see that, I'd just say up the damage and add mods to help combat that be it via extra speed, armor, torps or whatever.
Also yeah they definitley aren't pack animals lol
Agreed. Waiting on that QCreatureConfig mod to be ported over 😄
Not actually pack animals but not alone. Never found them alone. When I tried to scan one another one came, tried in the dunes, another one came.
Make better choices lol
It means stop trying to scan a reaper that's near others.
Now that I think about it. How in tf am I supposed to scan a damn void in sbz?
Almost all of them are near each other
Besides one at the crash zone border to the void
The damage by leviathans on a Seatruck were nerfed. It was a consequence. At some point the Seatruck health was buffed. But the leviathan damage were not.
I guess very slowly and a little bit at a time.
Ignis it's nerf or nothin
It's still kinda cooler to have reapers, who are Predators stick more together than ghosts who feed on microorganisms and would just be a nuinace to each other because they'd feed on microorganisms in the same area
That needs to be fixed badly because I feel 0 threat from anything in this game except the voids
And I'm not even at the end game
Hats off to the devs for the void chelis though. My god those things are terrifying. Incredibly hard to see, super fast, and way larger than I expected.
Yeah, so why hide them from us like that tho?
Guys, there's a land ecological dead zone in Below zero right?
Like why not have some legit areas they're hidden but accessible? Ie not just used as world edge border patrol.
They were designed to be the void "guardians" so to speak so while unfortunate, it makes sense for them to only be there.
Deep lillies.
Make them spots that are tough to get to, like an easter egg almost, like wow I never noticed this before and then boom some scary spookiness immediately ensues. Ie a big part of the classic subnautica formula I don't feel too bold saying we all fell in love with.
What's the best base location Ingame
what's your take on why?
they both have similar resources
i really need opinions lmao
Agreed but still, we had deep dark voids in game in sub, so why not toss us even a single bone with one in some trapped deep cave somewhere?
Crystal caves are overrated imo. They're also very inaccessible from the majority of the map compared to the lillies.
I haven't seen any solid deep lilly bases. I want to be wooed 😄
the only 2 entrances is the purple vents and ||maida's base||
Agreed
when i make one i will show you :)
My man!
I was thinking lillies myself, been in shallows for forever.
Seems like the most enjoyable location imo.
lilies has nice and peaceful and ominous music, while crystal caves has ominous and earie music
and i like the deep lillies and the shallow lillies
Plus lillies has a better view imo. More wildlife and variety. Varying on where you build obviously.
i gotta find somewhere open that isnt near the ||body cache||
i dont like building near already built areas
I have a couple different bases going right now. One in the spires which I love, one in the deep twisties that's a work in progress, and another in the lillypads around 150m down. I love the biome but I discovered that a lot of the biome's floating particles also float through your base. A bit distracting.
Agreed
tree spires? thermal spires? arctic spires?
Tree, sorry.
the tree spires just make me nervous tbh
the deep lilies made me feel safe despite the 94679439149 squidsharks
so peaceful
I'm thinking about making a base right near the world's edge by the vent garden.
I'll definitely set up a void cheli overlook at some point.
Could kill the only baddie there and breed a bunch of sea monkeys and what not. Help repopulate the area with wildlife lol.
you can find every material in the deep lilies except copper but the shallow lilies has copper right?
Probably. I feel like everywhere has copper somewhere.
well there isnt kyanite though
but the crystal caves is its neighbour
just go up from the ravine, go to ||maida's base|| and go to crystal caves for kyanite
do u need to go to the greenhouse to beat the game?
Nope
no but i still did it
so i should go there before i make the last ||architect piece||?
||marguerit story|| is optional along with ||sam's story||
okay
Wait so every threat in Below zero is laughable in comparison to the original or what?
I thought the ice worms were really cool
UH, squidshark is scary
theres nothing like the sea dragon but the squidsharks are essentially crabsquids but worse
I love the designs of the new creatures, I just wish they did more damage.
leviathans should be more aggressive
and tbh ice worms arent that bad, u can just outrun them and stop and repair if they knock u out
Mhm, and they're a joke if you're in the prawn.
Are the animations more refined tough?
I loved the animations in subnautica, they were decent and wish there were more
bro i didnt have reinforced dive suit and i was in arctic spires and they did nothing
Especially of creatures and vehicles
and the creatures just feel a lot more realistic, they have a prehistoric feel to them
Is there something like the aurora milestone, something really dangerous where you have to go?
i spent way to much time getting the cold suit then i realized that ur heat recharges on a snoxfox...
the arctic spires are decently dangerous
also the aurora is pretty safe
safer than the spires or the caves imo
Aurora is pretty safe?
entering is
instead of 2 shadows in the ||fabricator caverns|| there should be a diff creature that is worse than the shadow since its too easy to bypass
if u know where the reaper is it should never bother u
So the shadow is a ghost but the ghost actually blocked your path
yes
The ghosts were decently scary since they actively defended their territory where you had to go through
the shadow sounds give me nightmares but it doesnt look as scary
yeah tbh i just let them bite me, proc perimeter and dip, although i did have a heart attack when i entered the ||frabricator facility|| and turned around to see the shadow right behind me
everyone did
cant see anything
i also didnt realize there were two
same
oh god yes
but tbh they just arent dangerous cos when ur in a seatruck u can just get out of the pilots seat and they just dont attack....
devs pls make it so that they can grab u if ur not driving
it doesnt make sense u can drive up to them and they just cant attack if ur not in the pilots seat
It'd be actually really scary if the monkeys would steal your power cells or rip the arms of your prawn suit off in some. Animation, I could imagine I'd scream like hell if I'd see that happen
How strong do you think they are lol
sea monkeys r so good
im rich cos of them
what
man I wish I could turn diamonds into lead ;-;
my journey was pointless and i am frankly disappointed
can you not ride snd drill leviathans anymore?
the grapple gets canceled if you use your drill
wait what
Just watched a review from like 4 days ago
They do, he even mentioned it
They don't in the first game tough.
Yes they do.
bruh
h
they made killing leviathans was harder and more annoying
@safe sun they do that to charge back at you they don't actually run away from your puny little humanoid body
killing leviathans is dumb anyways
and it should be difficult and stupid
cos ur not intended to
They do run from you. Why do you think so many of them wind up in the shallows? When attacked, all fauna will head towards coordinates 0,0.
how so? it feels good and it makes the biome 10x safer
hopefully that gets change pretty soon
Well I'm talking about SN1 and I doubt that's going to be changed lol
I assume it's the same or similar in BZ.
I've never, ever seen a leviathan run in the direction of the safe shallows, and I've never seen one RUN AWAY and leave me alone. They always come back and charge at me.
i guess i will just have to live with the chelicarates and shadow leviathans
Not intended to kill them? I kind of agree with that but hell if ||Marguerit can do it|| then I want to too 😛
u are invading a planet and killing its inhabitants also if u need to kill leviathans to make the game safer thats kinda sad
Although I've never done it. Never even tried.
thats a matter life and death
Bart torgal said something along the lines of "its sad that we are on such a beautiful planet and have to kill it to survive"
fair point
Also why do you have to build a useless pengling robot to get stalker fur if you could just you know cut it with a knife how hunters do irl
the cold suit isnt nessecary
What part of it doesn't make sense?
maybe they just want to be able to kill it and then cut it off of the snowstalker....
yeah but it has a good reason
You can use a knife and get the pelt you know you do not need a robot for it, and if I were to rip off fur of a bear with a drone irl it'd defend itself
how tho
i killed way to many stalkers cos i forgot about flares
@bold monolith Why are loading times so rough on PC? There's a loading screen mod that claims that it's tied to your monitor's refresh rate but I have no idea if that's accurate or not since the mod doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
i think hes in #subnautica-chat
Pelt it. Slice it with your knife and technically you should get pelt but appare tly no
No, he's not.
oh yeah other guy sry
i literally did that
so many times
there are only babies left in my save
Yeah but you don't get fur from it and instead need to use the spy pengling
yeah ik
Which doesn't make much sense really but atleast it gives the drone a use and the drone is kinda cool
yeah although it doesnt do much tbh
The game seems to have startup issues, whenever I launch a second world inside the same session it's faster. But that won't matter for much people lol.
Hm.
And by faster I mean from starting a new world in 20-30 seconds to 5 seconds xD
So I don't even want to know on a proper save file 😅
Would be weird, it's not the same files. I'm starting an entirely new game.
it's the same resources though
those are much larger than your save
windows doesn't let unused RAM sit. It becomes disk cache, even on an SSD
Although, some optimization could help. Loading a save is incredibly slow on a HDD
I'm loading off of an M.2 and it's still atrocious.
I am too, and it takes maybe 30 seconds first run
Yeah sounds about right.
but it takes 2 min on HDD
I have mine on a HDD, doesn't take 2 minutes for me. But it's still faster the second time by a lot 👀
disk cache again, and the effect will be bigger
Then just cache all save files before hand 
disk cache is an OS thing
Caching in general isn't though.
and most of the time is loading resources, not your save, I think
Loading time is mainly malloc() and disk reading. What takes time is to load the octrees / base components in memory. Once it's done, the second time it is indeed cached.
I'm unfamiliar with a couple of those terms, malloc() and octrees. Any specific reason why it's taking much longer to load than SN1?
idk what any of that means all i know is it takes 10-20 seconds at max for me to load
its fast but the orignal takes a minute
The octrees are the disk representation of the terrain.
And only the terrain, no prefab.
game engine magic
this game is a 8.5/10
so uhhh my seatruck got grabbed by a chelicerate yesterday
it scared the living pengwings out of me
that's its job
exactly
Be like Fred.
Fred is the character in the trailer.
he isn't dead physically but he's dead mentally
He lives on in our hearts.
But..
can squidsharks grab your seatruck?
no. They can turn off power for 5 seconds
Monkeh
fren :>
Squidsharks can grab you tho. I thought they could grab the truck as well
when i first encountered a sea monkey it grabbed my scanner
but i thought i was hugging it at first
top 10 anime betrayals
They always bring me smth & my inventory is full
Then just build more storage with what they give you so that you can have even more 
I usually drop some titanium so I can take it especially if it’s ore lol
How do you pick up the stuff they give you though 
what biome is this
You just grab it like picking up anything else
deep lilypads
The Deep Lilypads.
Ssshhh
are there any leviathans/squidsharks/Big Scary Enemies (as i'd like to call them)?
find out
Can we get a petition to get better names for the "deep X" biomes? We have too many of those honestly xD
1 squidshark
Lilypaddlers (pretty harmless) & squidshark (1i think yeah)
I mean, do you think you'll run into less of them the further in the story/game you go?
They'll become more common in general. But to be fair none of them are any kind of threat
And the most annoying imo those stupid trap grabby things
I mean, it no different then having a green/orange "Violet Beau"
But it's a biome, not some weird plant 😛
I hate spikey traps with a passion
Question: Is Robin's PDA in Emergency Mode?
Technically she wasn't in an Emergency and landed in 4546B for a mission.
Spikey traps are too easy honestly xD
At first I had no idea what was grabbing me 

if you act wrong, they can kill you
Even the big spooky whispy black line with blue slurpee mouth isn't much of a threat so no worries no matter what you run into bud.
No Thom
just seaglide away
Never take your scanner cam to the Creepvines.
Shadow, at least I'm not as evil as @safe sun
This is coming from the guy who refuses to explore the arctic spires 
A sea monkey grabbed it and I tried to drive it out but then I regained connection, and the monkey planted it in a nest!
hello there sir/maam
Outside of creative without cheating? 
Maybe not
"Yo got gaems on yo phone?"
But that doesn't matter! 😂
ok but can those guys actually damage you
No they just trip you out.
Caught in 4k
Not really when you're in a searruck
They do a Mesmer like thing but they don’t bite
Sorry I don't have a 4k monitor.
These one's are much better than the mesmers if you ask me.
you know what i meant
Diamonds and how uncommon they are remind me of Minecraft.
Why does everyone keep talking about arctic spires?
They aren't that uncommon lol
You end up finding plenty of diamonds
The ground stuff is super boring in this game
After you do like 2 things it's like an endless escort mission with a bland empty landscape.
I think the arctic landscape is beautiful
^ there are so many plants
I prefer the attic
Lol
In some spots yeah but mostly it just feels kinda bland
If I recall,most creatures on 4546b are unisex

I only found 1, 1 single Diamond in twisty bridges in an entire 300 M radius with the scanner room-
Sorta both
Its like a white version of the unfinished parts of new vegas but less populated with stuff to do.
Early on I get some diamonds at Koppa mine
Idk it looks good in some spots like I said, but doing stuff on land just feels very meh.
You’re sent to some story sites that have quite a few diamonds as well
._.
how do i get spiral plant clippings?
Deep vents
Pengling get in the Seatruck, we going to the Koppa mining site!
Or ventgardens
Purple vents has some as well as inside ventgardens
That's all well and good but I am like tripping over diamonds I have so many at this point. They're practically everywhere beyond the shallows.
Deep twisty!
Yeah that too
how can you only have 1 there is so many you find at and around delta?
How does the Rebreather function exactly?
Pretty sure it just lowers rate of oxygen depletion
Oh.
Cant say for sure though
Removes oxygen efficiency penalty for deep diving
A rebreather is a breathing apparatus that absorbs the carbon dioxide of a user's exhaled breath to permit the rebreathing (recycling) of the substantially unused oxygen content, and unused inert content when present, of each breath. Oxygen is added to replenish the amount metabolised by the user. This differs from open-circuit breathing apparat...
I don't have a PC to dig into the specs like probably 99% of the folk on here do
When you pass 100m your oxygen depletion increases, the rebreather negates that
Once you go below 100/200 metres it says that your oxygen will drain faster, the rebreather prevents that.
Real rebreathers are expensive and complicated
Compared to rebreathers in BZ lol.
Well yeah an actually rebreather is pretty cool in how it functions but in this game I don't think it actually adds to your oxygen supply so much as it just lowers the rate of depletion as a mechanic.
And how exactly do you think it's lowering the depletion rate...
I’ve heard if you use a rebreather IRL you don’t get all the bubbles we see in the game but games are games lol
Record going under 100m with vs without rebreather and play both.
That's a scam, I want this implemented in real life please.
👀
The idea of a rebreather is that it's closed circuit
Yeah it's definitley one and the same in terms of irl mechanics lol. I'm just saying I doubt they put in the effort to have it add oxygen as opposed to just having it impact the base oxygen depletion rate. 🤣
The air you breathe is circulated through it and made back into breathable air
If you don’t use a rebreather you can see the oxygen consumption go faster as you go below 100m, 200m etc
Seems like it would be easier to just tweak that imo but hey idrgaf either way
I'm not sure exactly how it works but it basically removes the carbon dioxide and adds back oxygen to the air
Habitat: Not producing 02.
Robin: Goes to bed.
Habitat: Can't argue with that.
This legit happened-
I made a room inside twisty bridges and slept in a bed, didn't die of oxygen loss.
Robin: wakes up dead
bruhhhh this dude managed to get himself stuck
Wha-
Did you have power?
Nope.
I can't even tell what the pic is trying to show me
I took a nap.
Bruh
yes ofc
Yeah you can survive naps even if your base doesn't have power lol
O2 doesn't even take a hit. Robin is just built different.
The magical bed.
Oh lol I see
Stop finding bugs lol
Not you. Sorry
XD
What exactly is the point of the sleeper module anyhow?
Skip night
Sleep on the go.
Like if you feel like starting a cutscene for no reason?
it provides music and a painting too
I love the fact the jukebox has bass.
Oh yeah that's right
In-game music > jukebox
That's the one good thing
Night surface temps & weather can be really brutal
:(
Titanium when I need it be like: 🏃♂️
Though yeah, you'd figure they would've realized how much we all love the in game soundtrack so why not give that to us to play instead like?
This is the robotics lab area any way to get to this? The avatar cannot get in but the penguin can but i saw no other holes in side.
Feels like a crazy easy no brainer
@long charm propulsion cannon
....it's playing while you drive. 😂
The silence of the deep, what secrets dose it keep?
Thats in below 0?
Yes
Best song
However the repulsion cannon and stasis rifle are not
Is "Survive" the default jukebox song next to Song 1?
Thanks will look for bp
Lol yeah, but I mean it would be cool to be able to pick your driving music for the game that overrides whatever in game cues they have. So you can listen to abandon ship or what have you all day whenever and wherever.
I found the fragments in sea monkey nests
i found the ||omega lab|| and got a ton of new blueprints
That would get annoying imo. I love that they have multiple tracks for each biome so they stay fresh.
How would that be annoying? You'd just have the option to change the music to what you want. It's not like you'd be forced to do that.
After Robin's ship crashed, I don't think she knew how she was going to get back off the planet.
Don't you already have that?
To be fair I think she thought there'd be some sort of settlement/site established already
"Yo pick me up" "Aight."
Just finished the game 🙂 I like how open the world is but in retrospect I did things "out of order" because I missed stuff. Like I did these in order: ||construct Alan, THEN discovered Marg's base, THEN discovered Outpost Zero|| I think that was intended to happen in reverse.
Was that Cal person supposed to come back for her?
Not that I'm aware of no. I mean it's not a big deal, I just think itd be nice if they gave us the soundtrack in game for the jukebox along with whatever mixtapes they wanna give us.
I found outpost zero while randomly swimming, then when I left due to almost starving I was like: "I forgot to put the beacon-"
Yeah same
Then like an idiot picked up the delta beacon and took 1 entire day to find it again.
Huh
Nice. I had the game trap my seatruck in a cave because it took super long to render roots that then trapped my truck inside an inescapable cave.
Buy the soundtrack and place the files in the Music folder, you can still play that way.
Well yeah, though at that point I could just listen to it for free. I'm just saying as an in game feature it'd be a neat addition.
dude
you're not holding anything
He holding air, new DLC item.
Though they gotta get cracking on fixing the absolute trash that is the seatruck, and cranking up the leaviathon damage ASAP.
What-
Seatruck is cool, don't know how to activate rear camera tho.
Sea truck is the complete opposite of trash.
me neither
Rear camera was removed
^
Sad.
The problem is...I don't have a computer to do that, so...
did you know that
I suppose it's a shiny pile of trash. Glittery trash if you will but still pretty trash nonetheless.
"Hey kids, you like bases?" Slaps on a seatruck cab "Now you can have it E v e r y w h e r e"
Seatruck before Afterburner: “I mean, it’s okay”
Seatruck after Afterburner: “GOTTA GO FAST”
seatruck is like a discount cyclops
If you gave me the option between the seatruck and the seamoth, I'm picking the moth every. single. time.
moth is kinda lame tbh
Are you going to offer an actual point or are you just going to keep calling it trash without any substance to your criticisms?
Seatruck isn't a discount cyclops it's a bad hybrid of the moth and cyclops
whats the atlas sub anyway
The Atlas was never going to be the Below Zero cyclops



