#below-zero-chat

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stoic cargo
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there are some cave types spots which end in a clear ice wall which I can't drill through or use a cutting tool. Is it worth trying blowing up a spy pengling?

mortal imp
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you need to cut it from the other sides, it's just shortcuts

loud remnant
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where is the electric seatruck module?

mortal imp
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perimeter defence module can be found in Marg base

loud remnant
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what? i didnt find it

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in which room

mortal imp
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main one, that you enter into

loud remnant
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hmm ok

stoic cargo
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move your scanner over everything looking for a scan symbol

mortal imp
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or turn on the highlight interactables option

stoic cargo
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is that a hack or a front end game option?

mortal imp
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it's in the settings under accessiblity

loud remnant
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wow it was so well hidden

stoic cargo
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oh noice

loud remnant
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cant we kill these pesky thinks

sick mica
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This game will be better if it could have custom colours instead of only 5

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About marks

mortal imp
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custom colours for what?

loud remnant
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it doesnt change a lot

sick mica
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Dudes, i lost my battery, i just unload it with full inv and it dissapeares

sick mica
mortal imp
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oh

sick mica
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My battery just appeared when i builded other

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LoL

stoic cargo
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Is there a machine/device which deconstructs things back to their original materials?

stoic cargo
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I am on PC and I have infinite colours ... maybe a console limitation

mortal imp
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it can't be a console limitation, as the game isn't on console yet

stoic cargo
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true, I think they have not found the slider then

deep kettle
mortal imp
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I meant it as they can't have a console limitation because they can't even play it on consoles yet

deep kettle
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Oh like that.

brittle echo
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For some reason, when I use my hover bike in the ice worm areas, no ice worms show up. I really want to see one, (even though I know what they look like) does anyone know why they won't show up?

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Also where is the frozen leviathan

deep kettle
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Are you sure you're in the right spot?

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Because they don't spawn everywhere.

brittle echo
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I hear the *roars, and in one creative save i saw them in the same space, so...

stoic cargo
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oh the stripe colour still has the issue that it combines with the base colour and makes a weird colour you didn't select

deep kettle
brittle echo
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Crossed the bridge

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The other side is the snow stalkers

deep kettle
stoic cargo
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snow stalkers on both sides

brittle echo
stoic cargo
deep kettle
deep kettle
stoic cargo
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sent it. I will report base wall breaches not always displaying externally also

stoic cargo
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well first play through in a year done. I like the changes. Lots of story, maps and functionality tidied up. The ||"Last known pilot position" beacon|| is still going to be confusing for people but it puts people in a high density of things to find area. this game has an excellent feel to it and things happened in a different order this time due to random discoveries which is nice

frozen dew
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its directly above the cave now. anything else is just a marker on the base

stoic cargo
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I was not looking forward to the land section of the map but it is actually so much better now

sage flax
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i used to think lantern fruit were good but i just found shrub nuts and i change my mind

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yo whats this? i paused

frozen dew
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play the game

stoic cargo
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better to find that out yourself

sage flax
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found delta station

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the actual building

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loads of PDAs too

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started yesterday

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nice

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yes

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i have a seatruck and 2 modules as well

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i found the ||Mercury II ship||

frozen dew
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great

fathom marsh
languid light
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(Endgame) Hey , is anything supposed to happen when you ||enter the phasegate facility?||

languid light
hallow plank
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Yeah

lusty jacinth
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whats the difference now with the 1.0 version?

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no ending yet or?

fathom marsh
fathom marsh
lusty jacinth
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so the ending is in ?

fathom marsh
lusty jacinth
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okay i see 😦

carmine bobcat
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May sound like a dumb question but will BZ have a disc for consoles?

sage flax
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or someone who knows more

carmine bobcat
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Subnautica had a disc so im assuming BZ will have too since its newer

sage flax
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i imagine it will be first on the digital store for a while first then disk

carmine bobcat
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Or both the same time i need to hope because if theres no discs i cant play

frozen dew
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physical copy is being made

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switch version has both games on one card

carmine bobcat
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Is below zero pretty much complete now

frozen dew
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ending is jsut missing

carmine bobcat
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Since the full release date is in 33 days

tender axle
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im so hyped on the realease

carmine bobcat
crisp kite
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is there a suit to warm me up?

frozen dew
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cold suit

analog plinth
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hey ppl

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how do I acces bz's soundtrack on steam?

frozen dew
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its not on there yet

carmine bobcat
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new update?

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everything sounds diffrent

sage flax
analog plinth
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ok

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thx

mortal imp
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None of those are official songs

sage flax
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lol

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im in a rush

mortal imp
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or like 2 are

sage flax
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didnt read it

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brb

signal pulsar
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Is the ending for subnautica below zero complete yet?

mortal imp
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no

signal pulsar
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damn

sage flax
# analog plinth thx

um, i dont think those are the official ones, check with someone who knows more than me

analog plinth
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got It

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🙂

mortal imp
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the soundtrack will be out when the game fully releases

sage flax
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i think thats a fan made one and i was in a rush and didnt read it properly

carmine bobcat
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Does bumper always work?

warped terrace
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So I'm in a pickle I'm exploring the caves on the main island and I ran into this section where you can see diamonds through the Gap is there a way to crouch to get through there so you can collect them or they just there to taunt you

mortal imp
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you need the spy pengling

warped terrace
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Ooo

sage flax
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its picks up stuff in areas you cant get

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you have to control it tho obviously

warped terrace
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So assuming that's later in the game where I'm not at right now

carmine bobcat
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you can get the spy peglin near margets base

warped terrace
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Ah

mortal imp
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no you just get a fragment for it there

carmine bobcat
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yes thats why

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you get the fragments to built it

mortal imp
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yeah but you don't get a fully built spy pengling

warped terrace
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When do you get the other fragment

mortal imp
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you just need 1 fragment to get the recipe

sage flax
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how do i get to margerites base (sorry if i spelt it wrong)

warped terrace
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You go to the main island and it should give you the whereabouts of her basically just follow the story

carmine bobcat
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theres some boxes near margertes base

sage flax
warped terrace
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It's straight down

carmine bobcat
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there are some light sticks follow them

sage flax
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ok thx

warped terrace
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I think you're supposed to get the sea truck before you go to her base but I can never find mobile vehicle Bay fragments

sage flax
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look in the kelp forest and twisty bridges, thats where i found my fragments

carmine bobcat
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if you want to the seatruck go to the twisty bridges

sage flax
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modules are in the deep twisty bridges

carmine bobcat
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yes fabircator and storage

warped terrace
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Do the fragments apear in the twisty Bridges around spawn or do you have to go far away

azure bear
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Hey there.. I need some help over here. I read in wiki about the high capacity o2 tank:

The blueprint for this item is unlocked by opening a databox in the Twisty Bridges or unlock the Rebreather. It is crafted in the Fabricator.```
I have unlocked the Rebreather already but I don't have the High Capacity Tank. (I have even found the ultra high capacity but can't craft it)
sage flax
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||pog||

warped terrace
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|| is that your first time running into the Mercury||

sage flax
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nope

warped terrace
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Ok oop

sage flax
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4th time

warped terrace
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I was about to say it's it's probably like the first thing you find following the pilot

sage flax
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||look here is the name||

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i just cant find her base

loud remnant
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Marg's?

sage flax
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not delta station

sage flax
mortal imp
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there should be a cave near to the Last known location marker

loud remnant
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Just switch the signal location on

sage flax
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ok

sage flax
loud remnant
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Yea its just straight in the cave below the pilot last location

sage flax
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new problem: something keeps taking my seatruck's power

loud remnant
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What?

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You mean squidsharks?

sage flax
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yeah

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ig

mortal imp
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5/6 alive ones (depending if you count a specific creature a a levi) and 7 in total

sage flax
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SPOILER: ||i found her base pog||

warped terrace
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Is this a glitch

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My bace just suddenly went dim like it's out of power but it's full power

warped terrace
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Kk

fathom marsh
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i think its sme bug with power management & lights

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make sure to press F8

swift cove
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I saw Rich Presence in the F1 menu, but I don't see it on Discord.

mortal imp
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not set up yet iirc

swift cove
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Gotcha.

azure bear
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anyone about the high capacity o2 tank?

sage flax
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||how do i get past the snow stalker in marg's base?||

mortal imp
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can't rn

warped terrace
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Also I'm not sure about this but is it right that if you catch more fish eventually they'll be harder to catch or is it always the same

mortal imp
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do what she asked of you, go to the location she tells you about once you complete that task and then return

sage flax
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ok

warped terrace
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Also you know how the thermal blade can basically get you instant food is there an item in the game that gets you like water without having to have a fabricator

sage flax
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water filtration machine, you put in your base and it produces water

warped terrace
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Okay but nothing that does it like instantly like the thermoblade

mortal imp
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no

warped terrace
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Like a juicer xD

mortal imp
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it takes a while, even longer if you put it above the water iirc

sage flax
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but it does make water and salt at the cost of some power and a wall

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you need aerogel to make it tho

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im dead, i have 3% water and didnt bring any

warped terrace
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Do you have a habitat Builder

sage flax
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yes

warped terrace
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Well then just quickly construct a little base

sage flax
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how would that help

warped terrace
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You can construct a fabricator

sage flax
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i dont have any bladderfish

warped terrace
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Oh

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This is why I carry like 20 Waters with me

sage flax
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i've had to resort to hitting a gel sac twice to get 2 seeds then eat the gel sac, it gives me 4 water

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i could cook some fish and that would give me some water

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i should try and get to my base ASAP

warped terrace
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Or at least try to get some bladder fish

sage flax
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found one

warped terrace
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I still think there needs to be a way to fabricate water without a fabricator

sage flax
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water, pog!

warped terrace
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Like maybe the thermos could I don't know blend fish into water or something

sage flax
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water filtration machine makes water

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you need aerogel

warped terrace
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Okay but how is that supposed to help you if it's at your base and you're in the middle of the ocean

sage flax
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you let it make loads and then take those, each bottle from that restores 50 water

warped terrace
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I'm not like tricking myself right you can make cooked fish with the thermal blade right

sage flax
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hit it

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before you catch it

warped terrace
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Ye

sage flax
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back at main base, lets go! biggest clutch

warped terrace
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How fast does the sea truck battery run out

copper patrol
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depends what your using

warped terrace
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Cuz I'm going out to a bunch of different places

sage flax
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fabricator and lights drain it quick

warped terrace
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I am wondering if I should just carry an extra power cell

copper patrol
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its helpful

warped terrace
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It's the normal module just the sea truck itself

sage flax
copper patrol
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it shouldnt run out that fast

warped terrace
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K

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Also apparently the sea truck has two so is that just a glitch or is there actually 2

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2 cells

sage flax
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there is supposed to be two

warped terrace
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Ok

sage flax
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i cant spell sorry

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my brain is just like... no

warped terrace
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Okay now I'm confused

sage flax
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why

warped terrace
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I thought as soon as you find the pilots last known location you just go straight down and it takes you to a bunch of caves and then you follow the lights and now the cave is just not here

sage flax
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look around

warped terrace
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What am I supposed to be looking for o thought they had always just straight down but apparently not

crisp kite
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is the way of getting snow stalker fur to use the penguin thing and then stab the creature

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💀

swift cove
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Yes.

sage flax
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how do i get the exterior growbed or is that something late game

warped terrace
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That should be with what's her face I believe

sage flax
warped terrace
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Ooo

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Pretty

bold monolith
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Are you playing on Mac OS?

thick abyss
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did seaworthy fully conplete subnautica or do i need to make a new save because the end big facility i still can’t get into it

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Well i can get into it but not that one room

bold monolith
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The ending won't be available until full release.

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This is not a bug.

icy saddle
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make subnauctica free for pc

dry night
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How come the thermoblade visual bug hasn’t been fixed yet? O.o

bold monolith
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If you have 100% reproduction steps it will.

dry night
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Wdym?

bold monolith
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If you know reproduction steps that trigger it all the time, then it will be fixed.

warped terrace
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What is better the horsepower upgrade or the afterburner

dry night
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Um i had the same bug on my pc 2-3 years ago, I now have it on PlayStation.

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Can’t see anything because of the smoke or bubbles when underwater.

bold monolith
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This is Subnautica, you're on the wrong chat.

dry night
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?

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I am talking about subnautica.

bold monolith
dry night
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Oh

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My bad

bold monolith
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Although I don't know if this is completely fixed for Subnautica. So if you know how to trigger it, make a report with @scarlet oriole please.

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It is clearly not on playstation but experimental might have it fixed.

carmine bobcat
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is full release may 14?!

mortal imp
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ya

carmine bobcat
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wtf, so keen

mortal imp
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?

crisp kite
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are the songs on the game copyright?

mortal imp
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yeah I'd imagine so

thick abyss
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Do i have to make a new save to get the seaworthy new ensign?

mortal imp
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no

thick abyss
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Ending*

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huh

mortal imp
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the ending isn't in yet

thick abyss
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It said it’s completed????

mortal imp
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but then it also said ending will be added on launch

thick abyss
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Ohhhh

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I’m gonna replay below zero after i finish of subnautica

random pelican
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so when is the estimated date below zero is coming out fully?

stoic cargo
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14th May

sick mica
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How i delete the watermark of "early version"?

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Please xd

astral tide
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where can i find the prwn suit fragments

sick mica
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@astral tide at station zero

crisp kite
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the parallel processing unit i cant seem to get that out of the wreck

stuck vapor
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I could craft the seefox but my pda says i can
Please help me

frozen dew
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u can onyl build it on the fox platform

stuck vapor
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Where do i find this ?

frozen dew
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phi base

stuck vapor
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?

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Where is it?

frozen dew
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use the map that u find in delta base

stuck vapor
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Ok

nimble ravine
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whats going on at -500 -500 ? The sea floor is all just texture no collision...

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nvm its the whole game now... there was this hollow iceberg I went through and now everything is like this

solar tulip
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so i was wondering, the track "crystal cavern" was replaced by "chasm" in the crystal cave biome. but do we know if "Crystal Cavern" is going to disapear from the soundtrack then ?

mortal imp
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Probably if the biome that it's named after no longer uses that song, we'll know on may 14th though

frozen dew
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@nimble ravine save reload is your best option

carmine bobcat
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Can u get the white tablet now

mortal imp
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no

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and you never will be able to

weary silo
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really

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come on

mortal imp
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it's /spoiler and you can just click the 'Spoiler' button when pasting in an image

weary silo
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i did

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:/

sage flax
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how do i get spiral plant clippings? thanks

molten birch
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Look inside the giant vent garden

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That’s all I’ll say

sage flax
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ok

languid chasm
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did they make a new change to the world again?

weary silo
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Spiral plants?

mortal imp
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they make slight tweaks to the biomes but no major changes that I can remember

weary silo
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Go to the delta docking station than around 600 meters east of that

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they’re on these white flower look plants and in the deep purple vents

sage flax
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thanks

languid chasm
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i cant access my worlds anymore

mortal imp
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those are experimental builds right

stone lichen
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One message removed from a suspended account.

languid chasm
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oh i see

crisp kite
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did they remove the worm?

mortal imp
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no

next current
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The Ice Worm Leviathans are aggressive land-bound leviathan class predators only found with the Arctic Spires.

ripe warren
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Quick question guys, is the invisible obstacle at Marguerits base (blocking the kitchen) a placeholder? Or is it related to a bug?

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You know, you go to her House while she is at the Greenhouse (after messing with the radio station) and you find that “I-say-grrrrr” invisible thingie where her snow stalker was supposed to be :v

next current
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Her Snow Stalker is supposed to be there.

mortal imp
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go to the greenhouse

crisp kite
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where can i get a parallel processing unit for the test override module. there are some in the wreck but i cant grab those

mortal imp
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You can only find them in the Mercury II wrecks

crisp kite
mortal imp
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there's 3 Mercury II wrecks

crisp kite
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oh ok

hot thorn
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Is there an invisible wall at the fabricator base to stop prawn suit from getting in and thus causing it to get destroyed by the leviathan.

crisp kite
next current
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You have to Scan it with the Scanner Tool.

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Have you heard of it before? 🤣

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Jkjk. I know you've heard of it because how else would you have the laser cutter.

weary silo
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but the leviathan won’t attack the prawn suit without you inside it

hot thorn
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But it will :\

weary silo
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not when i did it

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also

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is there an invisible wall for you when AL-AN tells you to meet him at the phase gate facility

molten birch
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That shadow leviathan attacked my prawn t the fabricator base

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It had 20 hp when I got back out

gentle pumice
weary silo
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yea

hardy tinsel
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(mega spoliers btw)|| it just let me in here without the tablet is that supposed to happen||

stone lichen
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One message removed from a suspended account.

next current
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That's intentional. Tablets are cut.

hardy tinsel
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ok thanks

fair acorn
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where should i build my house?

stiff kayak
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I hear Ben prunty will also be releasing the sound track on the 14th. Anyone have a favorite track?

weary silo
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Love the crystal caves track, really slaps

fair acorn
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where can i find lithium?

crisp kite
fair acorn
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is diamond/magnetite on there somewhere?

weary silo
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crystal caves has loads of lithium but if you want a safer route try the twisty bridges trench

fallen briar
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should i get below zero?

fair acorn
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ye

fallen briar
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is it fun?

weary silo
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diamonds in twisty bridges trench and magnetite in crystal caves

fallen briar
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o k

weary silo
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yes

fair acorn
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i just want a scanner room hud chip

warped terrace
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Okay is there any way to like teleport yourself out of stuck areas because I am stuck inside of a rock in the precursor section and I can't move

fair acorn
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so i found a pit that the scanner room said should have some diamond in it

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but there's 2 lava geysers

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and i can't seem to find the diamond

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and i just died

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found it yay

modest patrol
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is the story have reached the end now ?

weary silo
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no

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The phase gate facility have an invisible wall blocking a room

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also

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to get oht of the rock you’re going to have to use the cheat console

modest patrol
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know where i could get some Nickel ? 🤔

weary silo
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crystal caves

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crystal caves always

modest patrol
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heck i don't remember where it was lol

nova flare
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ello do the lily paddlers live here??

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i want to teach em a thing or two

weary silo
warped terrace
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How often do fish enter the aquarium module

fair acorn
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can the chelicerate leviathans hurt my seatruck

weary silo
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yes

fair acorn
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how much damage do they do? i forgot to bring a repair tool

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im just trying to get to margureit's place

frozen dew
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not in that area anyway

fair acorn
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have to go through the purple vents to get to the margureit place

frozen dew
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and u dont need to go on the sside where it is

fair acorn
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so now how do get past squidsharks

frozen dew
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just avoid them

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again her base is down a hole theres not much there to deal with

fair acorn
frozen dew
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ur not in the right area

carmine bobcat
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is the bz story finished yet?

frozen dew
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no

carmine bobcat
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k

fair acorn
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so where do i go from here

winged grotto
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Teleporter module is my favorite

next current
fair acorn
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so if i only have depth module mk 1 am i able to still get into her base

frozen dew
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just swim

next current
fair acorn
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im just gonna go see if can craft some synthetic fibers and make the mk2 depth module

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i just got attacked by one of the deadly things and i need a new pair of pants

next current
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You can have my pants.

mental prairie
next current
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And I follow the games development daily.

mental prairie
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oh okay got it, just wanted to be 100% sure before i got my hopes up

next current
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And I watched the Seaworthy Update Trailer.

mental prairie
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so cool! i played the original when it was first released and have played below zero in pretty early access, but i dont want to spoil too much so i havent played it in about a year or so probably

next current
mental prairie
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hahaha

next current
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😂

mental prairie
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subnautica is probably my favourite game ive ever played

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sooo excited for below zero

mental prairie
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yeah!!

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thanks for the info :)

next current
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No probs!

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:3

modest patrol
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found some nickel in this biome 🤔

next current
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That is the Deep Lilypad Caves. It is indeed a Hotspot for Nickel.

fair acorn
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how do i get the blueprint for exterior growbed?

next current
fair acorn
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im afraid that i don't know where any of those are

weary silo
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there are like 4 oxygen plants

light trout
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So below zero is getting a full release?

stone lichen
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One message removed from a suspended account.

weary silo
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dang that’s actually really close

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i thought it was going to be a few months

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what are your guys bases like

stone lichen
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One message removed from a suspended account.

weary silo
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mine is boring

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mainly because idk how to build

light trout
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next month

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MMM yes

quick trout
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Mine is an ok exterior but a nice interior (personally)

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How do I use the thermos

undone bone
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Mod I’m guessing?

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Nvm this is below zero I’m dumb

quick trout
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haha

undone bone
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I thought this was subnautica chat lol

quick trout
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no no mods just a specific bed

daring oar
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Anyone know if I need to play the first game to understand the second one story wise

quick trout
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Probably

empty flax
next current
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It's best not to ask questions.

empty flax
next current
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:3

timid horizon
limpid tiger
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hi sorry guys I'm not sure I'm in the right spot to ask this but I've tried searching around and read through the support pages already and could use some help.

I am having trouble finding my game saves files on my macbook. I can navigate to the folder that the wiki tells me to go to but it only has steam_autocloud. I am unable to find the slot00xx files. Does anyone have any experience with this?

daring oar
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Thanks guys :)

devout stratus
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wrong chat sry

sage flax
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do you have the blueprint yet?

stuck vapor
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.

silver smelt
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when is full release

bold monolith
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May 14th.

silver smelt
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i preordered it when early access released but it wasnt that fun

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i've been waiting for full release for a while now xd

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but thank you @bold monolith

bold monolith
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The game won't change now, the ending will be added on full release.

silver smelt
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is it better optimized and stuff now?

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i heard theres new vehicles like the snowfox and seatruck

bold monolith
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It is, yes.

silver smelt
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yay

bold monolith
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Only bug fixes are pushed. The game is done. You just can't completely finish it.

silver smelt
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i havent played except for like the first 2 hours of early access

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running 30 fps

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xd

carmine bobcat
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0622893517

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Is there anything similar to aurora or something like that in BZ?

stuck vapor
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Where can build this

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ist the seefox station

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i found it in the phi base

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i think i need it to craft the seefox

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am i right ?

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Where can i craft it

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?

carmine bobcat
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on land, and only drive it on land

stuck vapor
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thx

sage flax
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i made a jukebox bc who doesnt like music

jagged loom
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that sentence makes me wanna buy BZ now

sage flax
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brb, making a speaker in my moonpool

gentle pumice
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Can’t wait for May 14th, such an awesome game and if anyone’s wondering, yes you should buy it

weary silo
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I enjoyed it a lot but not as much as the first one

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The leviathans don’t seem very dangerous

charred basalt
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is there supposed to be nothing after ||completing ALAN and going to the teleporter||

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im guessing they havent added final part

bold monolith
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You are right.

weary silo
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Yeah there’s an invisible wall there so weM’ll just have to wait til the full release

next current
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Good deal.

sage flax
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how do i get the exterior growbed or is that late game?

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yes i already know

mortal imp
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What are you trying to achieve with this? Being hated? Because it worked

sage flax
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but thanks for ruining BZ for me

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now i dont need to play

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you could have put that in a spoiler tho

stoic cargo
stoic cargo
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@sage flax those ribbon plants are one of the good things to grow too

sage flax
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my plan is to grow gel sacs (i have loads of seeds) and ribbon plants, maybe creepvine idk

stoic cargo
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if you grow creapvine then to grow onmes with seads plant the seeds and to grow ones without seeds plant the cutting

sage flax
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ok

stoic cargo
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@sage flax have you made a fabricator yet?

sage flax
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yes, i have a base

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and fabricator

stoic cargo
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then you know that cotton anemone can also be useful to grow

sage flax
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ok

stoic cargo
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there is one more plant you will find out about later which is rare, grow that also

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well maybe not rare but harder to get

sage flax
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my plan is to grow all plants that are quite rare or hard to get, e.g gel sacs

stoic cargo
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one weird thing that @bold monolith may know is why there seems to be less requirements for plants. You can build certain 1 off items you need with some plants but you get the item whole anyway so no need. Did they cut back on having to build these items or is building them in case you lose the item? The (late game spoiler) ||antidote|| is an example requiring ||pepper plant|| edit:: the recipe for that does not seem to even exist any more

bold monolith
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You unlock the recipe for the item you wrote just because it prevents you to be softlocked in case you lose it, for whatever reason.

stoic cargo
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are you saying it can be unlocked? Or the game does it automatically if you lose the item?

bold monolith
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You unlock it when you pick it up.

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And the recipe is there to craft it in case you lose it on the way.

carmine bobcat
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Hi

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Is BZ better than the original subnautica?

mortal imp
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IMO yes

carmine bobcat
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Isnt there only one vehicle?

mortal imp
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no

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there's 3

carmine bobcat
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Oh

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Ik theres the sea truck

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Wut are the others?

mortal imp
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prawn and snowfox

carmine bobcat
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(Unless they spoil the game)

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Oh

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Ok

stoic cargo
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maybe it goes once you use the item

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kinda 4 if you count the seaglide

bold monolith
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Considering stable is 42690, it probably isn't in the Seaworthy update yet.

stoic cargo
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ah ok thanks

carmine bobcat
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Ok it was fun stopping bye

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Imma head back to subnautica chat

stoic cargo
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i also think BZ is better

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just a richer environment and a story which is less led and linear

sage flax
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it is

azure bear
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bz used to have a reverse camera but can't find it now

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was it removed?

sage flax
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it got removed

azure bear
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oh ok thnx

stoic cargo
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used to be nice to reverse the seatruck to attach modules. I don't even use my moonpool now

jade cape
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why i can create new game

sage flax
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how many saves do you have?

jade cape
sage flax
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click on play then "Start a new game"

jade cape
sage flax
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hmmm. maybe it's your pc or the game is laggy.

stoic cargo
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try restarting the game

jade cape
jade cape
sage flax
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ok, maybe restart the game as BadCowz said.

jade cape
sage flax
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this sounds like a glitch or bug. maybe ask someone who knows more than me since i got the game yesterday

bold monolith
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Verify the game files, check your log file (%userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\Unknown Worlds\Subnautica Below Zero\Player.log).

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Eventually drag & drop here.

stoic cargo
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Why sometimes does the scanner room not include items it did before? there has to be lead around me. nvm , need galena outcrop I think

sage flax
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i should build the scanner room

bold monolith
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Is your d:\ an external drive?

jade cape
bold monolith
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What are its permissions?

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UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path "D:\Games\SubnauticaZero\SNAppData/SavedGames\slot0004" is denied.

jade cape
bold monolith
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You have to check them, the game can't create / access to your folder and that's your issue.

jade cape
bold monolith
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Probably not.

jade cape
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run*

bold monolith
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That works too but you shouldn't let Subnautica runs with administrator permissions if they are set properly.

stoic cargo
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is the seatruck sleeper module the least useful thing in the game for the cost?

visual surge
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does somebody know a good base blueprint?

stoic cargo
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What do you mean?

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I only just discovered there is a recycle thing ... this is great

gentle pumice
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it's amazeballs!

gentle pumice
stoic cargo
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so basically you can get materials and make whatever you can in the fabricator module to store things compacted and then break them down again when back at base

gentle pumice
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that's what I do with plasteel thingies

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do you guys know if creative mode gets you all jukebox songs?

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I wanna just sit in the middle of my base and listen to the music... it's so damn awesome

carmine bobcat
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how close is below zero? like this year close or next year close

gentle pumice
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May 14th

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don't think they pushed it back any further

carmine bobcat
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omg it's closer than I thought I CAN'T WAIT

gentle pumice
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I've played all the content it has so far ( intentionally locked the ending ) and my blood pressure went down how relaxing it is

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I would definitely recommend playing on 27+ screens ( TV )

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although my 24" monitor was sufficient, but would love to have played it on a 50-60" tv

carmine bobcat
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i feel sad that now that I finished subnautica, playing it again doesn't feel special

gentle pumice
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that is true in a way... but you can always mod it and see if that's any better 😄

fleet atlas
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when is BZ fully releasing again?

mortal imp
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May 14th

fleet atlas
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alright thank you

visual surge
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practical

carmine bobcat
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and below zero is smaller than subnautica, I'll finish it quickly, and then maybe mod but how many times can I play until I'm tired of it?

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gentle pumice
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what I find practical might not be practical for you, so use your creativity and test things out

gentle pumice
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One of the few things I wouldn't mind having amnesia for

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time to get a bike!

next current
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It's just a beautiful game. Perfect? Nope. Fantastic? Definitely.

gentle pumice
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there's no perfect game 😄

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but the soundtrack?! omg omg omg omg..... pro tip 6 speakers in half of the large room

carmine bobcat
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undertale ost is also no joke btw just saying

gentle pumice
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I do gotta say that Divide's - Survive song has been played more than I care to admit

carmine bobcat
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oh yeah

next current
gentle pumice
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I might have liked it if it wasn't 8bit 😄

next current
#

Subnautica and Below Zero's OST's are great.

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Crystal Cavern is one of the bests on the soundtrack.

carmine bobcat
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into the unknown and salutations are the first songs I liked of the game

gentle pumice
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I just hope they don't disappoint with the PS theme... I still have my original subnautica ps theme on there

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or have the seatruck modules be attachable on both sides 😄

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but having speakers in cyclops would be epic 😄

stoic cargo
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wdym, they have 6 sides and are attachable on 2

gentle pumice
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seatruck can be attached on the back of the module?

stoic cargo
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oh you mean both ends

gentle pumice
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yup

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scenario.... you're in a tight spot with a 6 module seatruck "chain".... disconnect the sea truck and attach it to the back of the last module and just go back 😄

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or at least have a rearview camera 🙂

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I can't tell you how many times I was [] < this close to just leaving the sea truck in the deep

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also the fact that the sea truck slows down the more modules you attach is pretty neat, although annoying 😄

stoic cargo
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the horsepower module helps a lot

gentle pumice
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not on the 6th module attached 😄

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do they stack tho

stoic cargo
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I want one more upgrade spot though so I can run 2 booster modules .... when just using the truck and 1 storage I run 2 booster upgrades so I can continually use them

gentle pumice
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I haven't even made a booster module 😄

stoic cargo
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they speed up travel so much

gentle pumice
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all I had was mk 3 depth, shocky and HP module

stoic cargo
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are you saying that the horsepower upgrade stacks?

gentle pumice
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that was a question 😄

stoic cargo
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no it does not stack

gentle pumice
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😦

stoic cargo
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but with 2 boosters you can boost all the time

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I mean afterburner

stone lichen
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modern steeple
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there are 2 vehicles

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wait no 3 sorry

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stone lichen
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next current
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The Seamoth mod only adds the ability to construct a seamoth.

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They can't just mod the Seamoth in-game.

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It's developer made content. Therefore illegal.

stone lichen
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stone lichen
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stoic cargo
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the seaglide is kinda a vehicle also

next current
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Not really, it's more of a deployable.

stone lichen
next current
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Then again, the Snowfox is considered a deployable as well.

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In the blueprints tab I mean.

stoic cargo
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for me the snowfox is kinda like the seatruck sleeper module

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maybe it will be more useful when the final area is available

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Actually I might build a land base there with a snowfox

loud remnant
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there will be another area?

next current
stoic cargo
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well one area is incomplete and invisible wall blocked

next current
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BZ spoiler: ||Likely AL-AN's homeworld||

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You gonna add the textures as well?

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The textures were removed in BZ.

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Hence why the Seamoth is all white.

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🤦‍♂️

stoic cargo
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so the small platforms you find lots of stuff on can't be scanned or built?

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can you build one of those? you could in the original

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oh I just saw it, the icon looks weird so missed it before

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stoic cargo
pliant peak
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Hello

tranquil steppe
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well since the Game is about to be out, i guess i could be in this Server again

pliant peak
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I have a question

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Is Now the game totally playable until the end ?

mortal imp
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no the ending is missing

pliant peak
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Cause i was stuck at a moment with an invisible wall

tranquil steppe
#

untill in 2 Days?

mortal imp
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may 14th

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not april

tranquil steppe
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Ok

pliant peak
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Okay

tranquil steppe
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sorry

pliant peak
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Thank y !

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U*

stray escarp
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Bro i think broke the game lmao

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I downloaded the gargantugan mod

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And i changed the size of it

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Ma pc dead

stoic cargo
#

There is no Steam workshop for this game right? or there will be in the future?

modest basin
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I just wanna give props to the devs, the prawn suit feels really good to pilot in this game

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Even if you can't shoot yourself forward with the grappling hook anymore

modest basin
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Pro tip: normally you can't access the PDA and move while in the seatruck but if you have the afterburner upgrade you can use it and access the PDA at the same time, it'll still cause you to keep moving and you can do whatever it is you had to do in your PDA

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modest basin
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Jesus christ I'm pretty sure I've got 2 ice worms after me right now, is that possible?

viscid tinsel
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you better hope its not possible

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otherwise good luck

crisp kite
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how do you look at coordinates

modest basin
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I definitely heard the sound an ice worm makes when it erupts from the ground twice with less than a second inbetween

next current
modest basin
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F1 actually

next current
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It's one of those two.

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I don't pay attention lol.

modest basin
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Ok there's absolutely 2 ice worms after me rn

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I heard another one erupt from the ground as the first one was doing a sweeping attack

next current
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This is why we bring thumpers. :3

modest basin
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Yoo I was being chased by a snow stalker and the ice worm just gobbled it up I think LOL

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It actually helped me

next current
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Indeed, that's their diet.

modest basin
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Anyways I'd say it's been fun messing around with 2 ice worms at the same time but it was actually the most horrifying subnautica experience I've had in a long time

next current
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You can't even blame Thalassophobia for that.

modest basin
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I think I have thalassophobia but I'm also just horrified of the void

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If I look down into the water for example and don't see anything

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Horrifying

modest basin
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What's this mf doing all the way at my base lmao

thick abyss
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Ok I’m finally gonna be replaying through below zero 😊

next current
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Welcome to the Below Zero Chatroom! I will be your guide while I am here.

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My name is Slicey!

thick abyss
modest basin
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Is the ||phase gate facility|| blocked off because the ending is in there and the ending isn't accessible until the game actually releases?

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frozen lagoon
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yep

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it'll open once the final update releases :)
we're all very excited for that

next current
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I'm excited to play through SN and BZ again.

modest basin
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I see so I've effectively beaten the game then, all that's left is to turn the game on on release day and watch the ending

next current
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I haven't had a legit playthrough in both games for about a month.

modest basin
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Can't believe I didn't have a single death or had any of my vehicles be destroyed ever

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I got attacked by plenty of leviathans

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Should've just picked hardcore from the get go

loud remnant
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Are thumpers that useful?

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I've never used them

next current
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They're good when pair with the Prawn or Snowfox.

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On their own, they're still pretty good.

loud remnant
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I went in the worm biome two or three times with the snowfox and then the prawn, and just moving is enough to avoid the worms

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They are just annoying in the prawn

lyric venture
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im building a mega fortress

limpid tiger
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Whats the priority on how my base drains power from the generators? I'm at a net loss overall but my solar panels say 75/75 power.

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oh i see, nvm. It just prioritizes the order of construction

idle swan
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How much story is still unknown?

mortal imp
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the ending

idle swan
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Oh ok thank you

stoic cargo
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I can't see a use for the thumper either. The worms are not very dangerous

idle swan
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Ok one more question, is there going to be anything more to the big frozen leviathan

mortal imp
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no, and it won't be alive

thick abyss
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I live for this dude

normal flax
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who doesn't

carmine bobcat
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I beat below zero 😳

regal gate
#

will old worlds in the sea-ready update update to the ending

next current
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Yes, your save will be updated.

warped hinge
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do squid sharks etc. attack a seatruck if noone is in it?

normal flax
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i don't think so

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but dont take my word for it

warped hinge
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ok lol

normal flax
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i only say that because last time i gave advice i almost lead someone into the dead zone in SN

azure bear
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||after finding artifact N6M I am stuck.. Al-An doesn't talk (and actually that last artifact was already scanned somehow, so I just entered the area and now what?)||

normal flax
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yea lmao

warped hinge
normal flax
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thats probably a good idea

warped hinge
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also what am i meant to do at the ||pilot last know location||

normal flax
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im pretty sure thats the way down to ||Marguerit's base||

warped hinge
normal flax
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its down in the caves

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i found it easier to use a prawn to get there

warped hinge
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i dont have prawn yet

normal flax
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ahh

warped hinge
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i just looke ddown there with max gamma and didnt find anything

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i got this tho

normal flax
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i know that i found it just by kind of exploring the caves down there if that helps any

warped hinge
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i guess ill need a depth module first

normal flax
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yea if i remember correctly it was about 400 meters

warped hinge
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ty for the help

normal flax
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np

warped hinge
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also i cant find any of that ribbon stuff for batterys

warped hinge
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where would yall recommend a base lol

mighty beacon
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ayy just got the mk2 module for the seatruck

formal rune
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is it worth buying the early access version rn or should i just wait till its fully released?

patent gulch
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Does anyone know where accessibility concerns can be posted?

warped hinge
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i'd wait cuz there might be a sale

carmine bobcat
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in the ||inner_Crystal Caves|| is it safe?

formal rune
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@warped hinge but like is it fully done?

warped hinge
supple stirrup
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Read pins

stone lichen
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warped trench
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Is below zero going to be free when it releases fully on playstation too?

stone lichen
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One message removed from a suspended account.

jade cape
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died bot 😭

stoic cargo
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oddly I am inside station zero after a bike crash

stoic cargo
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is that a control room or a scanner room?

wary crystal
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U can find them ||in the arctic biom||

novel marsh
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Hi

minor tusk
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hello

quick trout
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I'm half jesus

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I walk in water

minor tusk
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nice

stoic cargo
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endish game spoiler alert .... || Lillian|| and || Sam died || in the same || accident || right?

indigo anvil
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I think seamoth and cyclops should not be removed or even brought back from below zero.

stoic cargo
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@quick trout you don't have seatruck defences?

stoic cargo
quick trout
stoic cargo
quick trout
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nope just pulled it cuz I walked in water once already after pulling it so I tried to do it again

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and it worked

stoic cargo
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oic now. When you enter the seatruck agian is the issue fixed?

quick trout
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well

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lemme tell you what happend

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I died, spawned back in the seatruck and noticed I could walk inside the seatruck even tho I don't have any connected rooms thingies behind, so I wanted to try to pull the lever to see what would happen and the rest is history

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I actually reported a similliar bug today already

lunar steeple
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did you know that penguins cloud fly but now they are to lazy to fly oh sorry i meant penglings

stoic cargo
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is that the same destination as F8?

quick trout
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I dunno

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but I reported it in F8 too

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In-game

vital dawn
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ayyy is this intentional

quick trout
carmine bobcat
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should i build a base in ||inner crystal cave||?

stoic cargo
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why not?

carmine bobcat
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is it safe there?

stoic cargo
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anyone have any theories regarding the ending to come?

quick trout
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Wait the ending is not out yet?

stoic cargo
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not until May 14th

quick trout
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oh

carmine bobcat
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no ||the ending|| go out on may 14

quick trout
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why did you spoiler that

carmine bobcat
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Just incase

quick trout
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ok

carmine bobcat
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even if i play normal subnautica before it still fun

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i think below zero less lagging cos if i build a big base in normal subnautica i lag but if i build big base in below zero im fine I think below zero more optimized

stoic cargo
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spoiler alert unless you have finished everything currently available .... It seems that || Alan killed Lillian and potentially Sam|| at the same time. It is possible that ||he killed a bunch of humans||. But why didn't ||Alan recruit Marguerit to help get his vessel since Alan killed Lillian for being too Alteraish and Marguerit is very anti Altera and for a while was Alan's best option|on the planet ||?

carmine bobcat
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is it safe in ||inner crystal cave||?

stoic cargo
carmine bobcat
stoic cargo
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yes it is safe, there are just ||4 shadow leviathans || but they kinda just patrol and you can avoid them or zap them

carmine bobcat
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is the|| red one|| safe?

stoic cargo
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Note that the water temperatures are enough to power the prawn suit and potentially get some thermal power also

stoic cargo
carmine bobcat
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i do have hull module in the ||exosuit||

stoic cargo
carmine bobcat
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yes

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in the ||red crystal cave|| is there any leviathan?

stoic cargo
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down there to travel in and out you will want a || seatruck|| with || the defence upgrade ||

stoic cargo
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there is more clear space in the ||blue|| area

carmine bobcat
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is the ||red crystal cave|| safe tho?

quick trout
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so many spoilers

stoic cargo
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I consider them all safe but some people find || shadow leviathans || to be really bad and life threatening

loud remnant
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there are ||shadow leviathans|| in both

stoic cargo
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yes

loud remnant
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I wouldnt like to make a base there though, because thats a bit like the deep lilypads, the biome is just there for the story, and is totally empty if you consider the rest

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its far from everything and there is some ressources, but nothing to see

stoic cargo
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the caves in the bottom of the ||blue crystal || area have a bunch of bulk materials if you are building lots

buoyant merlin
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im surprised this server doesnt have a spoiler chat

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for people to freely talk about the game

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id get sick of having to do ||this|| very quickly

stoic cargo
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yeah I would like to discuss ending speculation and what some comments made by || Alan|| probably mean and the stuff with ||Alan., Lillian and Sam|| and what it means for Robin

buoyant merlin
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do we have to use ||these|| ?

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or are yall just choosing to

stoic cargo
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some of the people here are not that far into the story

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choosing to

loud remnant
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is the sam story clear for you? Its not for me

stoic cargo
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I think it is almost clear. Have you completed as far as you can go?

loud remnant
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think so

stoic cargo
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Maybe ||Alan can resurrect her using his technology as her body was found but her conscious could be placed elsewhere|| maybe

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did you go to || outpost zero || with || Alan still inside you? ||

loud remnant
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dont think so

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thats such a pain

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once you have lost alan you miss so much stuff

carmine bobcat
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how much seatruck use energy by lights?

stoic cargo
carmine bobcat
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I was thinking it uses energy lol

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if it's left turned on it uses energy?

stoic cargo
loud remnant
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i went in the precursor thing further from outpost zero with him, but not in the base

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i should have done that too

stoic cargo
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I tried to go everywhere with him to get extra dialogue

loud remnant
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they should add some kind of transmission tool allowing you to have him after the ||vessel is built||

stoic cargo
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at least we should meet up again with him

loud remnant
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ive seen some artefacts without him, and im always disappointed for missing the dialogue

stoic cargo
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the disturbing thing about having ||Alan with you at Outpost Zero is that he pretty much confesses to killing Lillian who Sam was pretty much living by and working with at the time. Like intentionally killing her because she had discovered too much. At the fabrication centre the dialogue makes it sound more like an accident. Maybe Sam dying was an accident but not Lillian||

loud remnant
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duuuude how did i miss that

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im gonna create a new game just to see

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like the precursor base in the precursor caves? he doesnt even talk about them

stoic cargo
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also the dialogue when you have a pet ||trivoli thing. Alan muses about the potential to keep humans as a pet|| ... disturbing for Robin

loud remnant
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thats a big problem with the game... you can always get him too late or leave him too soon

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yes i saw the one with the trivalve

stoic cargo
loud remnant
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wait there is a conversation when you get back from these caves? but what if you have already built him!

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thats messed up

stoic cargo
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He just seems to have many triggers for dialogue .... it would be good to read it all at some stage

loud remnant
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ill send a note in game to let them know, and hope that they fix it

stoic cargo
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to let them know what?

loud remnant
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that the alan-story system is so bad

stoic cargo
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I think without ||Alan || you could not find lots of stuff. Like that || volcano type pit which sits on the ocean bed surface directly above the fabricator ||

loud remnant
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the one with diamond ore?

stoic cargo
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lots of minerals

loud remnant
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i didnt know it was above the fabricator

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and a chelicerate above

stoic cargo
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yes

loud remnant
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k

stoic cargo
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I think the || Alan || thing is great. The best thing is to pretty much get him early and keep him for most game play

loud remnant
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yes, to fix the problem they just need him to stay in a way or another even after the vessel is made

stoic cargo
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Plus I am always trying to work out if he is || good or bad ||

loud remnant
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I think that there are two other main problems

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||first one being that you feel like unlike the first game, some areas are rlly there only for the story, and dont look natural at all||

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||like the deep lilypads or even the entire crystal caves are just there because there is a precursor thing at the end||

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||and the second one is the fact that the precursor bases and artifacts dont seem natural(unlike the first game again)||

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||why would they have little things hidden at the end of each cave, without any logic?||

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||why dont they have any real facility like in the first game?||

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||why are even the "big" ones just empty and small?||

stoic cargo
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I guess many are broken leftovers. A year ago this game had too much of everything everywhere. So many items and minerals and far less architect follies

loud remnant
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||I remember being very disappointed for the crystal castle base: it looked so cool from the outside, and there is just a little useless room... why would they even let some organs there????||

stoic cargo
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But at least they took out all the 'find the different coloured pda pass key' bits

loud remnant
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I hope that they fix that with an update or dlc of some kind, because i feel like it could be so much better...

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yea that was a good thing

stoic cargo
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all the architect sites are open and not level fenced which helps keep the game open world

loud remnant
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I would have preferred a realistic environment in which some big facilities are implemented, instead of a illogical world built around fifty little artefacts and 3 small bases...

sacred lichen
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Without spoilers for BZ, is the cyclops in it?

mortal imp
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no

fallow shell
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I miss it tbh

mortal imp
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funny video but 'leaks' only work when there arent public builds already

stark monolith
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It was a joke, a christmas. joke. - Jeremy, Peep show.

mortal imp
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it's not even christmas anymore

stark monolith
mortal imp
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nope

fallow shell
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Late April fools joke?

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x_uhhh 😂

deep kettle
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👀

stark monolith
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I was bored in gmod

fallow shell
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I didn't watch the video 👁👄👁

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Me, daily

stone lichen
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deep kettle
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Nothing

deep kettle
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Back to Below Zero chat you people 😉

stone lichen
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stark monolith
deep kettle
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I still need to go to the deep lilypads some day, I want to experience it's beauty D:

next current
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Lol...

stone lichen
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deep kettle
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No.

stone lichen
deep kettle
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The game scares me enough already 😂

loud remnant
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Cyclops in bz would be so useless

next current
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Indeed. Nobody needs it.

fallow shell
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Can I get the pararelvprocessing unit without a laser cutter

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Cause I found a chest at the thruster but like I need to cut it

bold monolith
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That's a good question.

fallow shell
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That's not a good answer 😂 jk

hollow yoke
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and its potato

fallow shell
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Ah yes

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I shall use a potato to cut open thr chest

hollow yoke
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lol

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just got below zero and sea mo0nke stole my scanner and i diedx coz im new i9n it

fallow shell
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They stole my scanner too the first time

vital dawn
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yeah

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you can get the unit without the laser

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i just did now 2 in the ||Mercury bow|| 1 in the ||Mercury front||

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@bold monolith it supposed to be like that?

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also

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@fallow shell

fallow shell
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Uh, do you know where it is? Cause I found the truster but like

vital dawn
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||lilypads go in the direction where the ship broke in half||

fallow shell
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I can't see anything in it anymore, only found one entrance

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So diff place then

vital dawn
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theyre both fairly near

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like to each other