#below-zero-chat
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It’s deep
lol ok not that vague
Are you asking for directions to the biome or the part?
just where to start looking
explore around the ||deeper areas of the purple vents|| or explore around ||the green lilypad caves||
thanks :3
there's three parts of the mercury ship: the ship bridge, the engines, and off to the left side there's another engine piece. start there.
It's kinda subjective: some consider original better, some think below zero is better. Maybe majority think the former though🤷♂️
Ok tkx
how can i take this?🤔 I forgot, after so many years
...scan it
thank you
Sure it isn’t Q59?
If it is, then you get there via ||KOPPA MINES||
isnt q59 ||koppa||
yeah it is
what
so where is the entrance ?
youre talking about the one beneath termal spires right
yep
in that case theres 2 entrances
one on the far side of the biome like 400m from delta thats basically a giant pit to the upper section
and a crevice like 50m east from the delta station dock to the lower section
||ice worm||
well how do i get past it its trying to kill me
ok i got out
im never going back there again ngl
English only
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What is happening
Not my call to make
social credit is overrated
Did he say something about blasphemy
don't care. back to funny ice fish game talk
pengling stew
You got 4 options:
- ||Snowfox (bad)||
- ||Prawn (good)||
- ||Thumper (good)||
- Walk
Thumper is not very practical because it's stuck in one spot
i got out already im not going back lmao
currently im in a bad position about to be eaten by ||a shadow||
You will
There’s more to explore there besides plot reasons 🙏
Meh
Just spam a few and call it a day
What’s the range on it, like 300m radius I presume
also why can they clip through walls exactly
or is bz being buggy as always
much less. If it would have wheels and a string,,,
Big fish
Enclosed environment
Put a snow stalker in here and we’ll catch a ||worm||
@carmine bobcat btw, i know that ||the game ends when constructing alans body but what input specifically ends the game||
like when can i still turn back
When you ||follow him through the portal||
can i just ||leave him there||
you can load your save before the ending. After starting the end, you cannot save
can i return to my save after i beat the game
So, just end aand then continue your save
After “completing the game” with ||AL-AN||
You can load your last save
ah
Yes
Ideally, don't save after making the body
I prefer ||him out of my skull||, but that’s my personal choice
idk i like his voice
it's about the sea monkeys
should i put the ||component stuff|| into a ||quantum locker|| and then bring one along
when you leave home to make the body, save for the last time
There’s this weird thing
Where:
||If you build the body, and send AL-AN into the portal, then cure the leviathan, he’ll still talk to you like he was in your head||
Really?
So if I find all 15, he’ll give the unique voiceline or?
dunno what you mean there
ok i have a prawn and a dream im going down to hell again
Need reason to play bz instead of raft rn please
jukebox
slightly more optimized
Wouldn’t it be uhh safer to bring seatruck?
Since eletric defence and all that
The psychological effects of “GIANT UNDERWATER MECH” still leaves ramifications in it’s wake
you mean ||perimeter defense|| or what
cause thats the only upgrade i have for it i abandoned it after prawn
understand it is manual fire, and very very efficient at stopping attacks
Do not fire too early
how much dmg do ||shadows|| deal
to seatruck
I think it’s closer to 50
But not sure by how much
2 hits uninterrupted and you’re dead
Prawn can take like 3-4 I think?
i see ||red crystals|| thats good right
this place looks like hoth from episode 8 lmao
ok i found it 👍
(heavy spoilers) is this the last input
no it's another location, and you get an explicit warning
"finish any business before you enter"
ok well i havent saved since i left base so im fine i think
jesus christ that speed jumpscared me
he doesn't walk anymore, it's so old fashioned
did i place it correctly ?
see the display, green is ideal. yellow acceptable if you can't do green
wait why does he have legs then
anyway
ok
for RGB lighting effects
he is RGB man
ok so if i save between this and going there he ||isnt gonna be in my head anymore?||
why is it slow
ofc the most important part of this entire thing lmao
See the display on it.
no it's square, a screen
uh
nvm
where
70+ is recommended
(is that orange?)
idk
reason being at 70 the plant produces 1 energy/sec
It's my only use of the powertoys utility. I knew it would be useful someday.
😭
colors warp in display and capturing (if by camera), its probably red
yes that display sometimes is off. dunno if bug
what is the best spot for heat
in the actual lava
ok
maybe display works when connecting the power transmitter
It's a color picker, no camera.
I know it, but that's meant to be red, pretty sure
that'll do
it's literally in the lava
put powertrasnitter within 4m
Go to a geyser in the lost river or to the volcanoes in the biome with the giant pink mushroom species
for subnautica, maybe. this is BZ
i have to mention how good the ||crystal caves|| music is
im really glad the bz composer is coming back for sn2
It's correct, but it goes up to 100°C.
hehehe
i know it does for subnautica. BZ too?
yes
huh
my prawn suit is stuck
Load save
;<
Save like every 10 or so minutes
says the person who said dont save
for specific reasons, yes
ok
wtf
is it possible to make this happen by punching base with prawn suit ?
yep
😭
your attempts broke a wall
ffffffffffffff
damn that was a good game

i just had to take like 3 billion screenshots during that sequence
What is a wave without the ocean
yes yes wrong game
what do you mean none of them saved 😭
why can you even press f11 there if it does nothing
😭
Use F12 if you have the game on Steam.
F11 won't work because for the PDA screenshots to be saved you have to save the game itself.
Which you can't really do in the ending sequence.
If you give me your save file I can save your Prawn Suit. I need global-objects.bin from your slot folder.
After saving of course.
now save every 15m
ok
i keep dying in the lava
thermal spires is the most dangerous biome
🗣️ 🔥
w
🥹
I don't think that one does any good
i have a problem
i have 2 thermal plant and 6 solar pannel, but when i use the water thing the energy keep going down
📉
is it night? don't worry about it
it is day
the filteration machine is taking energy from your panels first; solar panels can't sustain a water filtration machine on their own.
well, if you don't empty the water maker, it does't use power
leave the panels be
the draworder is complicated
ok
run or press shift in the ||snowfox||
i noticed that i can hit leviathan with camera drone
is it possible to kill them with drone ?
It might be possible
no im sure
however if so it will take a long time
😔 ok
For the angry chilles you shuld just prox shock they with the sea truck
prawn cant grapple so no use
That's because when all is full, energy is drained from the storage part of the first reactor/plant/solar panel, and if it cannot produce power faster than it's used, base energy goes down. When the first power source is empty, second will be used and it starts to refill (so at that point two are generating power). If the drain is less than the output of your two power sources being used, energy starts to go back up. But again when the second reactor becomes full, it stops generating power and the first alone can't keep up...
TLDR: energy source with full storage doesn't produce energy, and base uses energy from one source at a time (until it becomes empty and next is used along with it)
Has the Scanner Room always been in BZ? When I played on PS4 back in 2020, I could of sworn it wasn't in BZ and they just had the handheld one.
well, since 1.0 at least (end of EA)
Did they carry over the stasis rifle or anything similar?
no. it's ingame, by cheats only
So just the knife as a means of damage? I live in the twisty bridges and wanna kill those shark things that live there, always chasing me lol, had one just circling my hatch for like 10 minutes once and I couldn't leave without being chased.
easiest: truck bump
Yeah, I kinda forgot how powerful the seatruck ram is
If you have no water then you get no water
ok thnaks
lol
Kinda weird since BZ wasn't released on consoles until May 2021.
Hello guys
He must’ve remembered the time wrong
Chat im getting BZ tomorrow anything i should know(please dont reveal plot)
obligatory speed nerf mention 😔
Obligatory obligatory mention
What
the first number is buffered energy - water machine will draw from random power supplier (usually solar panel) until its empty then from another and so on. Power producers will not make energy while their internal battery is full, so you will most likely see all of your solar panels drained to 0 before yout thermal plants kick on and begin making actual energy to keep up with demand. only worry if you start falling below single thermal plant capacity, because that means you are overdrawing your supply.
I did, I played on PS4 probably in 21' then, just thought maybe it was added later since I somehow missed it my first PT
Most people do consider it worse but it isn’t collectively the worst game ever
Also just because the speed is slower shouldn’t make it bad, the map is smaller
I tried playing it on my PS4 which I had it on and it lagged like hell
But
anyway I don’t remember it either
So for the ||crystal caves,|| do you just hide behind the crystals or small crevices and the ||shadow leviathan|| can't see you/get to you?
I'm playing on Switch right now, I've beaten SN like 4 times but BZ only once lol, I remember my biggest problem is still the Truck, I enjoyed the Moth
I would say, I haven’t made it there in survival myself yet
You can also use seatruck perimeter defence when attacked...
Pretty sure they’re unaffected when they grab you
If you time it rigth, the attack is cancelled with 0 damage to the truck
Is there a way to kill those red handed plants that grab you? I'm not a fan lol
And even if you're a bit late, the attack is cancelled with only minimal damage
Wait, perimeter defense has a parry mechanic now?
Spikey traps? Don't think you can kill or even damage them...stay in your vehicle if you see one nearby🤷♂️
you can slice them if they grab you though
Even in the first game perimeter defence caused reaper to let go and interrupt their grab attack
I sliced it like 20 times and it was still latched lol, I had to swim far enough away for it to let go, I was konda freaking when it grabbed me
I never used it in SN 😅
I usually got out and stasis rifle+knife
I didn’t either tbh until my second playthrough after my seamoth got down to 6 hp from an adult ghost leviathan in the grand reef
My first playthrough ever was my only careless time I lost my Seamoth to a reaper in the dunes. Now I've never lost a Seamoth or truck since.
I ran into the leviathan in BZ (Not sure of its name) and it took a good 40 damage bite lol, I will admit truck seems tanker than prawn.
And moth. Moth loses 90 HP with one bite
Is the sea truck and prawn the only water vehicle in the game now? Iirc they took the moth and cyclops to create seatruck, or that's the concept anyways.
Yes, but there's a new land vehicle
Yeah the fox
Haven't made it yet
A lot of ppl aren't a fan tho, unlike the cyclops lol
How do you get to the ||cotten anemone zone||?
You have to go deep down into the lilypad crevices near the beacon ||pilots last known position||
I am a huge fan of the snow fox. It is THE iconic vehicle for land exploration, like everything, you have to get used to it.
What's better early on for water filtration? A solar panel and 2 bio reactors or 10 solar panels and a bio reactor
8 solar panels
Is it the one that leads to ||Marguerit's base|| or is it meant to be a different one?
Id say more solar panels but I'm playing a custom game and my Day cycle is 15 minutes and Night Cycle is 30 minutes.
Her base
Just met her there yesterday lol
Is the cotten anemone near her or is it elswhere in the cave system
Haven't played this game in years, I don't remember though if someone else says its there I believe you just go deeper, past her base? Im not positive.
Only one way to find out eh
Thats the ||crystal|| caves
Or the ||tree spires|| if you stay shallow past there
Idk this map nowhere near as good as SN lol, I took a screenshot of the BZ map whenever I need it
I've studied and know some parts
In the same cave as her base? Just further in?
No
From the ||pilot last known position|| beacon
I need spiral plant clipping from vents, is that somewhat near?
My current objective lol
Go in Tree Spires instead.
It’s in the deeper section of vents
I've played this game once, 3 years ago, I know like 20% of the map lol. Ik how to get to OMEGA via beacon only, otherwise I'll need a map
And vents are in between my base and omega so there's that.
hello ı want to play so much blow zero here my system but ım creatıng a new world ıts loadıng end ıts gettıng black screen(crashıng) what ıs the problem pls help ı want play so much
Windows key + r, type in shell:localappdatalow\unknown worlds\subnautica below zero, open Player.log with notepad.
After exploring and using the laser cutter on the ||mercury 2,|| does the cutter have another other use in different areas or is it safe to ||recylotron|| it?
you use it on icebergs and an ice door. Also there are 3 wrecks
Oh okay! Was just wondering coz I'm making ion batteries and since ion cubes are nonrenewable in this game I'm tryna make the best out the limited supply
Well, you can always recover them from your ion battery and they can be recharged.
What's the best fuel in this game for bio reactor since no oculus 😦
Anything will do, just put a growbed next to it and grow some plants, preston fuits are quite good but literelly anything will do.
I'd assume ribbon plant because their use is to make batteries lol
Yeah I have a grav trap and growbed currently in use
3* growbeds lol
I use pepper fruit
I'm positive i found a pepper fruit plant on the iceberg base and I couldn't harvest it
highest energy is root pustule, but they don't regrow
My scanner picks those up lol
you grab a fruit. They are not rare
Wait, you plant the fruit you eat instead of needing a seed?
I tried that with the frost plants that are under icebergs. Maybe those are an exception
generally, if it has a fruit you plant that. exception is the antenna plant
The plant on Delta and the pepper fruit I couldn't knife a seed. Those you need to pick and plant?
yes
True, still just wondering exactly how many I'd need coz I wanna make ion power cells next
The horseshoe shrub?
Uhhh, it looks like a blueberry lmao
Yea the shrub nut lol
My knowledge of BZ is diabolical compared to my SN knowledge 😅
They actually heal a little too so it can be a worse medkit
So i plant the fruit i pick? Cause that's 3 plants I couldn't get a seed from and coming from SN lol
Ofc very inefficient with space but still, it can be helpful
Yea just like the lantern tree
I just want all farmable/edible plants at my base like I had in SN
Dumb I tried knifing and I just ate the ones I had thinking you couldn't farm em like you could in SN 😓
Actually, other than the creepvine samples and gel sacks, I think every edible plant makes fruit or nuts of some form
Idk what all aquatic plants are are edible, but almost all harvestable land plants make a fruit
The Antenna plant was the first edible plant I found I could get a seed and I have those
I'll have to grab the other 2 when I pass through
Oh there's also the frost anemone, but thats unplantable
Strange, it doesn't say its edible in the pda
Oh yea I didnt even know that lol. Well I got some now so thats good😄
They kinda weak but I needed something lol. My grav trap has being doing all the work for food/water
Random IMO: BZ would be on par with SN if they had Seamoth and Stasis
Can the blue trivalve walk in my base or does it only walk around on land?
Whuzzat?
The trivalve?
Yeah, not familiar with the term. Is it something similar to cuddle fish? Like a pet?
Yes exactly like that.
It is the cuddlefish version on BZ
Alright ty for that info atleast, sorry I knew nothing, might wanna re ask so it doesn't get lost lol
I will follow you on land but unfortunately not into your base.
Good, I didn't want you in my base follower lol
So it can also go in water?
Thats where it normally is, yes. There you can feed it and play a bit with it.
Isnt the blue egg in the ||arctic spires||?
Yes, and also ||two more in an iceberg cave in the west arctic||
Alright thanks
The ||yellow you know where it is?||
I have one just swimming around under the large room in my base and I just feel bad that it doesnt have a better place to play.
you talkıng wıth me?
He tagged you so yes he is.
Also where is the most common place to find thermal plant fragments
In tree spires are many, also some in koppa mine
oh ok thank wham
Found one in Koppa, no clue how to access tree spires. Vents? Uhh Lilypads?
@bold monolith ı opened play log with note pad what ım gonna do now ?
Tree spires is just south of delta dock, the one with the ||vent gardens||
i CANT grind in bz i do not understand anything
What's not to understand that SN already did?
cuz of that i have Steam Subnautica but below zero is 🏴☠️
Just more talking and slightly different tech
If your looking for pure safety the deep lilypads past ||Marguerit's base|| is a good way to get the the fragments
I'm not one for safety I take pictures of slain reapers lol, I've also said hi to the leviathan in this game.
Chose what you will then lmao
I believe it is quite a bit smaller
Isnt it like 2x2 km and crater edge is 3x3 km
I still know more about the map in SN than BZ
Not sure on the specifics but I'm pretty sure corner to corner in SN is like 2k M
Does the scanner room still detect heat sources? Either it doesn't or twisty bridges has none.
Yes it does, twisty bridges doesnt have any
Dang, how far can those transmitters reach
The scanner room range upgrades?
No the power transmitters for the thermal plant
Im not certain but several dozen meters
Can I connect like 5 over a distance over hundreds of meters to my base?
Possibly, not much more if it needs that I don't think
The total range is unlimited, but there is a max distance from pole to pole
I'm not sure of the closest heat sources to the twisty bridges, I dont wanna move and I'd like to utilize all power options
I use the hot lava under delta dock to power my base in twisty bridges
Alright as long as I could power a base any distance from a source I'm good, just need a bunch of transmitters
Do you have access to a compass?
Yeah I have that
If you're directly at your pod and look 1 notch to the left of southeast, around 320 meters away from your pod there's a creepvine forest with a cave system entrance on the floor and if you explore enough there's a thermal geyser and a heat vent in it. You should be able to hear the heat vent from the wntrance somewhere and can help guide you if you get closer or further from it. Try heading right anyway though it isnt too far
Its a bit windy of tunnels though so might need a few power transmitters just to get out of the cave
I found the heat at Delta and it's 331M from my base lol
I'm searching for the deep vents and I feel so vulnerable without stasis ngl.
Fair enough, one of em there is like 245° so you can make a super thermal plant lol
Do you want a direction for that?
I got a pda notif and I'm pretty sure I found it
I'm at like 250 in a cave with purple vents, looking for spiral plant
Found the plant lol
It goes deeper lol
Meanwhile I went into a ||vent garden|| from deep tree spires for the plant and the ||chilicerate|| there looked at me from outside with hunger in its eyes lol
I saw it omw back to my base and decided to put a beacon from where I could see it just so ik where it is. Is there only 1?
The big one?
Yeah the big one that grabs your truck
3 of those total I believe, but they're also bigger and differently colored varients that act as void gairdians as well
i've awaken from my 1 month nap
Wb
Look for the errors there. I have to go. If you don't understand it DM it to me, drag and drop.
or to me
Awe <3
I just wanted some Lithium 😭
It wasn't even after you
but the other thing
Although that would scare the life out of me seems like the creatures in the game are louder than the first one.
wtf is in my base
hi
thats a mod called the red plague act 1
super cool
What is a mod

its like an extension of a game that players can download, created by other players
but i find it very hard to believe that you play video games, but dont know what a mod is
just finished bz again and it was meh
thats not bz lol
there are around the crashed ship
Okay thanks
@steel shoal so does the voice of the emperor correlate to the speaker or the leviathan itself
Since the ones in earlier BZ demos had male voice lines right?
Cut content is not canon
If I recall correctly, Mesmer and SE use a voice in the prey's head to communicate
We can guess that Emperor's voice is of an important person to Ryley, and it may have a different voice to other people
Obviously, humans aren't SE's prey but I didn't know what to call them
Man that’d be terrifying to have a voice of someone i know speak to me about freeing them
Communalism?
I mean, it wasn't asking for freedom, and the Mesmers use a very familiar voice too
@solid grove leviathan class predator
I think it implies:
- It acts very similar to a leviathan and would be classified as one if not for the size difference
Or - Like a platypus it falls into multiple categories while not existing truly in one
I don't think that's how it works. All leviathans are referred to as "leviathan-class". If you are in the "leviathan" class you are a leviathan.
I don't think anything officially states what Andy brought up about the 30m being the requirement to be a leviathan, i think they got confused because the pda says in the reefback entry "This vast lifeform is in excess of 30m long and has been designated leviathan class", meaning it is longer than 30m and it is a leviathan, not that its a leviathan because its 30m. In the PDA entry for reapers in SN1 it explains levaithans.
"Leviathan class species are vast organisms at the top of their respective food chains"
Squid sharks are the top creatures in their respective area. Making them a leviathan
But of course it’s difficult to define “top creatures in respective area”
In that case it could be suggested that crab snakes were/are leviathans
And Reefback are eaten by reapers
And I presume glow whales by ||albino Chelicerates||
And uhh idk what ||shadows|| eat
Guys how do i get the snowfox out of ground ?
Squidsharks are not vast, nor at the top of their food chains.
I sent it and it went underground
Be more careful next time. Don't look down when deploying it, and avoid dropping it from your inventory. You lost it.
Okay
They are NOT leviathans - they are in the carnivores tab, and the entry wasn't changed because of localization costs.
I love this
Feels like real word biologists arguing over taxidermy records or something lol
Crabsnakes are apex predators, and are longer than squidsharks. Squidsharks are pretty small, and are eaten at large by Chelicerates.
They are also attacked by Brute Sharks
Reapers are not at the top os their food chains, and therefore aren't even apex predators.
Can i outrun the worm ?
biology argument over fish game 🔥
By foot
No
No need, just stay and enjoy the show. And use health kits.
You can use the Stalkers as meat shields, as the worm will prioritise them
Requires very good timing 🙂
Are warpers apex predators
They will not attack you if you use flares or repair their behavior
They're not predators
Well it says in their "food chain" i just said areas because i genuinely don't think anything in the areas squid sharks are in have anything that rivals them.
Anyways, while reapers kill reefbacks, reefbacks aren't part of the reapers food chain. A food chain is "a linear sequence of organisms that shows how energy and nutrients pass from one organism to another" (definition from Google.). Meaning, for something to be apart of a food chain it has to contribute to the cycle of the life of these creatures. I would get into all the specifics but we would be here all day. a reaper killing a reaper doesn't contribute to either of their overall life cycles. When you are at the "top of the food-chain" you are at the top of the linear sequence of organisms that contribute to your life cycle. I did a terrible job at explaining this but I hope you get what I mean.
Because they don't eat i guess
about that
what do they sustain from again
Alien Thermal Plant
where do they get energy from
Part of the energy is directed to the entire supply of Warpers, and they use a lot of energy
The word was respective food chain right?
Reapers don't eat reefbacks?
Lore wise they do apparently
Where does it say that?
Squidsharks are rivaled by Chelicerates and Brute Sharks 😭
Idk ask Andy, she told me that
Also yeah I forgot to ask
Brute’s attack squid sharks?
dont squidsharks eat brutes
theyre like thrice as big
Reefback entry, it explains the plants grow from scars made by their natural predators, while they're still in the juvenile phase
Ah
Reapers are the only predators that can do that
Yes, they eat each other
Reapers are the only ones wide-spread enough
Tho after the events of Subnautica isn't the reaper the apex? I thought the sea dragons were going to die because of the aurora
Brute Sharks do kill Squidsharks in the wild, and vice versa.
couldnt there be other things than reapers eating them
Maybe alterra saved em
Doubtful
perhaps something that didnt survive the crash
Doubt any population significant enough to get all 74 reefbacks could get killed so easily
I see Prawn didnt lose its undispusted title in this game too
it just says in their juvenile phase theyre vulnerable to predators
nothing more than that
It says the plants grow from then
it actually got better due to how the terrain is set up imo
- easier fragments
Yeah
We still see skeletons in the River, so they may be recent. Amoeboids eat the bones, apparently.
Yeah but a population of 3 could die out easily
I think i can pass the worm with prawn
||ice?||
Yes
i went there for 5 minutes and my prawn got eaten to like 25% health 😭
straight up scrambled out of there
An array of different barnacle and plant species grow on the reefback's shell, thrusting their roots into ancient scars in the chitin,
So it is stronger than reapers
in a way i guess
anyways just run through to the end that place is hell
I decided to return the base craft a new snowfox and a compass
I never made the snowfox
i made it once and then just used it as a navigation tool to the arctic
literally forgot i even had it by the end
Yeah it seems pretty useless especially in caves
Squid sharks are way bigger than brute sharks and do way more damage. I believe they are faster too. If you can show me anything official saying brute sharks rival squid sharks, ill say okay.
Chelicerates don't attack squid sharks nor are in they in the same areas so they aren't part of the same food chain
I almost lost my direction sense in a cave because of snowfox
it gets stuck less than prawn though thats true
Can somene help me I can't find the entrance or where to go
go down in the nearby massive chasm/ravine and look around the cave entrances
Subnautica cave experience on iceland
true, arctic spires is just finland simulator
?
this one?
Yeah
no, the one in twisty bridges
its like 100m across, should be pretty close above the signal
kk
Btw is this a bug or som?that I still see these after I did it
second and third ones are supposed to disappear but for me the first never did
bz has a weird way of detecting when to disable a signal
I mean I went down and talked to marguerit but It never dissapiered
They can be used as marker points if you want
||Iirc shadows apparently eat Chelicerates? But I’ve never seen this ingame for obvious reasons||
Just look at them
There is a Chelicerate in the Lilypads
And both Squidsharks and Brute Sharks are 'sharks', like Robin. They'll attack each other in the wild.
Even though they don't share biomes, Snow Stalkers will also attack Squidsharks
???????
Is it not???
2 Tree Spires
1 East Artic
1 Purple Vents
Ah, East Arctic
it is at the caldera which is close to the lilypads area
I might've lured it 
But Chelicerates will attack all sharks, and all sharks will attack each other
Do ||shadows|| attack Chelicerates or not tested yet?
Common creature behavior, also happens in SN, with Stalkers going after Lizard and Prowlers
I have no idea but I don't think they target each other
Leviathans don't attack each other, usually. But they can accidentally bite them, if they're targeting something and the other gets in the way. That's why you can feed them any fish, even if they don't target them
Keyword - usually. It may be possible that Shadows or Chelicerates have a special component that makes them attack each other
They can accidentally bite, and once bitten, it'll retaliate, and then the interaction is over.
they arent attacking eachother so thats probably what happened
I can’t believe “Subnautica fandom wiki” would mislead me 
and he is in the floor
Its at the edge of it and doesn't typically wonder in there in the East Artic. And yes I know they attack eachother in the wild, but the brute shark is the one that always runs away. Meaning it's below the squid shark in the food chain.
If the squid shark isn't a leviathan then they need to change the definition. Because it's definitely the apex of its respective food chain
. And didn't it originally have the same hp as the other leviathans in EA, or am I misremembering. I'm fuzzy on the EA stuff
HP values don't matter
If the squid shark had the same HP as a leviathan I’d die
In lore, I'm aware but if it had the baseline health of all the other leviathans then surely it was/is intended to be one?
Sea Emperor babies have 100 000 HP, and when they grow up they go to 3 000. And the adult one doesn't have a value. Meanwhile, Ampeels have 3 000 too, just like Sea Treaders.
In the trailer it sucks face with the seatruck, sort of like how normal leviathans too, so maybe
ampeel leviathan 😨
The HP is there so you can see creatures getting eaten by each other
Wait..the babies have health? It’s possible to kill them?
And I wouldn't say "the brute shark is the one that always runs away", as again, that's based on experience and is not representative of how the system actually works. Under normal circumstances, Brute Sharks can attack first just as often.
What happens is that due to their low health, a bite from a Squidshark activates the flee response, which prioritizes over retaliation, it seems.
There is nothing in lore that states that Brute sharks rival the squid sharks, and watching them during gameplay, the brute sharks always flee. Therefore it's reasonable to conclude Squidshark > Brute Shark on the food chain
"nothing in lore" I know, I'm talking about gameplay. And simply looking at the fish doesn't end in accurate conclusions - you have to explore their behavior in the code
They are programmed that way for a reason though? The squidshark is stronger than the Brute for a reason? It's the more deadly creature
There are lots of things going on at a time, but I can check if the creatures really do attack each other under normal circumstances. Even though they're much larger, Stalkers will still attempt to attack Ampeels at first sight.
There are some exceptions, but almost everything that attacks the player, also attacks all other sharks
In both games
Because the player is one
Size or lore don't matter when it comes stuff like this. Cuddlefish are completely safe from Reaper attacks, but the player isn't.
What
Are trivalves also immune to leviathans or what
Yes
Leviathans don't target edible fish either
Though I wouldn't really say immune, as accidental bites still happen.
Sharks, however, will still target Cuddlefish and Trivalves
Say that to Sammy The Reaper that eats peepers out my hand all the time >:)
I understand that. You're not getting my point though. My point is that the Squid Shark is stronger than the Brute in the code for a reason. I'm aware sharks will attack anything, but if the squid shark was programmed stronger, It was probably for a reason. Just because Brutes attack The Squid sharks doesn't mean they "rival" it.
Again, it's an accidental bite, you're putting the Peeper in its mouth
Yeah I'm kidding
Hm, Ampeels are stronger than Crabsquids in all accounts, and although Crabsquids attack them very often, Ampeels only retaliate, and never target them. Still, the 3000 HP leads to the Crabsquids dying much earlier. Things get really nonsensical sometimes.
If Brute Sharks really flee from Squidsharks, have you tried putting Cryptosuchi?
ampeels dont really class with normal fish their hp is leviathan class
HP is not an important value, it's just so we can see fish EAT each other
yea the point is they gonna win fights against crabsquids, crabsnakes and sharks
fish each other 👍
I'm tired of eel leviathans
shrimp leviathan best leviathan
that just sounds like ninja leviathans
I love Chelicerates too
Why are you right 
i will set you on fire
squidshark: 11 meters, leviathan / reaper 55 meters, leviathan / leviathan from mass effect 3 leviathan dlc, 2 kilometers length
at some point you just start calling them big fish
i will not set you on fire
are you sure 
Yes
It costs money and time to change entries in all available languages, so they either deemed it low priority, or decided to let it slide because they like seeing people get confused/argue over it
what dlc
Mmmm, money
subnautica has dlcs?
yes
My headcanon for why a lot of the PDA entries in BZ are so mid is because the original ones were stored in Alterra databanks and XenoWorx's AI is just really bad at writing entries so the original ones from Subnautica stayed the same but the new ones are mid
I actually love this cuz it kinda makes sense lorewise as well
the only reason i bought below zero is to look at the sky
What an unnecessary comment though
It's not even constructive
Below Zero has really good entries, but also has some that didn't get touched up like the Eye Jelly one
and the rock ones
It's clear that there were time/resource restraints and the PDA flavor text was low in the priority list
wow thanks for mind reading exactly what i was about to type andy. the audacity.
You're totally welcome and you owe me one
But all in all i love BZ
People complain about the voice acting (Not sure if said people noticed the voice acting in the first game but whatever)
Although the PDA entries were one of my favourite parts of sn1
I love BZ but I know it could've stayed in the oven a bit longer, hoping it gets revisited in the future
perhaps
Maybe there'll be a cool update where they fix up the entries and stuff before sn2 idk
The Ice Worm-Snowfox interactions are pretty bad and would benefit from a rework. Maybe a quick-time-event instead of instantly dismounting, and the module would increase the window for success. I really love the Ice Worm and the Snowfox, it's a bit heartbreaking that they don't interact well at all.
BZ isnt bad but being bad is not its problem. Its problem is not being good coming with a pedigree of Subnautica
I recently watched caseoh play sn1, i kinda hope he plays bz and sn2
whats a ice worm
No, the problem is players setting up different expectations.
true
I went into BZ with a very open mind
so i liked it a lot
After SN, they were expecting more of the same. And instead BZ was trying to be as different as possible. It eventually got closer to SN, but it's still a very different experience, with a different focus.
i still havent beat the game yet
"BZ isn't as immersive" congratulations, the game succeeded. It was not supposed to be immersive.
What percentage of the community do you think dislikes BZ
yes people wanted more subnautica from a game called subnautica
surprise
Hi everyone, when I enter the game I find a menu that says "darker bg" and can't turn it off, does anyone know how to fix it?
Idk i thought its pretty immersive...
BZ could very well stand on its own if it was just Below Zero not Subnautica Below Zero. As it is the BZ legacy is
SN obviously is better than BZ but because BZ is still really good it just goes to show that SN is such a peak game
Please help
It's a sizable amount, but not even close to majority. BZ was still a successful game.
Are you in-game?
This doesn't really make sense. It's a spinoff, of course it still has the Subnautica name. It's to show that it's in the same Universe. And like a spinoff, it approaches things differently, like Minecraft Dungeons, or Pokémon Go.
There are some settings that can't be changed in-game, you need to be in the main menu
This bug made my game start again, so Im basically stuck
Now my character jumps and opens/closes the pda continuously
wow, I've never seen that before
I think @bold monolith might know a thing or two about it
Fixed it
It was my switch controller that was plugged in to my PC
And some redditor had the same problem
oop, sorry Ignis!
I don't mind the pings, I don't have the sound notifications.
ignis doesnt get ignited easily
Ok thank you for capitalising Universe i never met anyone else who does that
Wrong game Corvid.
Hot take: Subnautica Below Zero is good
Ah how dare you! Corvids are beautiful and intelligent!
well, 50% right
well you 50% started it
yesbut, the real issue is, there's nothing new in #announcements
It happens ig
sure there is. an announcement about deep sea... phishing from 10 days ago
real!
Instant removal of play tester role and subsequent execution
which playtester role
any year now, that discord thing will get fixed
maybe not. Making fish game 3 more priority
Yes looking forward to SN2
meatie feesh
but, topic is more strict in this channel. Ice Fish Game
It's really funny when placing a hatch on an alien containment puts leaks in my moonpool lmao
Did they fix the Scanner Room bug where it's already at max range without needing upgrades?
On BZ it doesn’t feel like the bug exists despite being told so
I'll make upgrades anyways lol. I haven't noticed any blips outside the map area in the scanner room like I was in SN
only Ignis knows these things
He has deep ties eh?
he goes deep in the code
Yes he does, has wonderful videos as well explaining stuff
I'll make the upgrades then I'll get his response telling me it's still bugged 😅 at least the upgrades are cheap
And you can dismantle upgrades so no waste
I can confirm the scanner room bug is fixed, had 1 lithium still on the HUD for about 10 minutes without detecting more and it had no upgrades, put 2 range upgrades on and it started scanning more lithium.
hasnt been any patch so it's hard for it to be have gotten fixed
wait sam died im so confused when I saw earlier people play the game she was literally our like navigator or like somewhat a helper what happened I feel like I missed something even tho I just started the game I also remember that entire sequence where robin had that base then it got destroyed or was all of that changed??
Yes, you describe events from the old story
land map is way more complicated than i thought
Woah there is echo in the game
As if all of the map is an giant labyrinth
true, def more complicated than sn1
weird shape aswell
I couldnt find my way out around 30 mins
place beacons 👍
Markers doesnt really help
I dont know the reason but my sea truck and prawn suit seemed to be back of robotics but i'm pretty sure i used the usual way to come in
Question
What do i do if i encounter this (do I just like swim away or try to defeat it
There is fight going on in the subnautica chat so im hiding here
prob swim past it
Just swim past it
So if I started right know and played non stop tell 4 am and for me rn it is 2 pm do you think I could beat the game
How do I get to the frozen Leviathan
I personally would look up a map, get your bearings and go from there
Just started playing below 0 and honestly I hate the new pda voice. The old one was so robotic and emotionless almost and it was cool. Now we got some not funny pda girl who thinks she is quirky and fun. Kinda reminds me of that one white fat girl in her late 40s trying to seem young 💀. Do yall feel the same or am I crying over nothing.
Plus they made her accent Indian for some reason
You get used to it after you've played for a little while.
fr just keep the old pda voice
hopefully
wonder if theres a mod that replaces the voice
It's not that bad
Trust, after you get deeper into the game where she speaks full sentences, you'll like her more
no ik but i just like the old one more
its not rlly the voice actually its just the non funny jokes it keeps spamming down my ear
everything in this game seems less scary but i only have like 3 hours on it so far
If you see that in specifically those colors, turn around and return to playable map area...
The old one was cold and serious. This one is cheesy and unprofessional. The contrast is on purpose, it shows Robin is willing to use bad technology if it's what it takes to avoid Alterra tech.
Just started my first BZ run and I LOVE the loading screen penguin thing!
And the one on the loading bar
Damn this game is laggy though
And why do i have to go to the lost river for a repair tool??
Common Robin L
She literaly uses Alterra blueprints for everything
what 💔
Oh you mean crystalline sulfur
Yeah that's way more common in BZ because they removed cave sulfur
It just spawns instead of cave sulfur
Also you can find a ton of it on ||Delta Island||
It's just another area in the game, you'll find it soon enough
Ok
No Lost River in this one
Aw
the crystaline sulfur replaced the crashfish sulfur
Not automated, I've been on the saving screen for half an hour
no its not
Oh
||Was some kind of cutscene supposed to play when i first went to last known location margaret ?||
no
||It’s the last known location, you need to explore the area around where it is to find her||
Thanks
question Sea monkey eggs hatch or bio reactor????????????????????
Egg hatch depends on if you have the roommate
More valuable alive then dead, since artificial ones will provide you resources so long as ||AL-AN is in your skull||
ah okay okay and by roomate you mean alan correct?
Yes
so let me get this straight everyone that was is and will be on the planet 4546b other than ryley was there on purpose?? like with the mercury 2 they were there for research until the sickness happened and all the creatures were obviously attacking was ryley really the only one to figure out about needing the cure and what not out of hundreds of people i mean there arent even any logs stating that maybe someone attempted but it was too hard or anything no one and I mean no one knew how to disarm the gun but ryley im not mad about I think its pretty cool actually but jeez you would thing the crews that went there to research wouldve been able to figure it out or something (ALSO I know there were some beings that tried to cure the planet but those werent humans and the aliens that did work on that stuff were the ones to put the gun in place unless im mistaken
just a "theory" if thats even what I can call this lol ^
Degasi and Mercury were shot down by accident (“accident” as in they had no prior knowledge of the planet)
Aurora was scouting to see if they could find degasi, then were shot down as well
Mercury 2 wasn’t at the crater so they had no way to be able to disable the gun
And the degasi lost 2/3 (technically 1/3) of its crew, with the surviving member in the crater likely being too traumatised to go deeper and find out what happened.
ohhhhh okay okay so basically everyone died except one but they were suited for the task until ryley pulled up?
also this thing about the sea monkeys do I just hatch them in the alien containment then take them outside and theyll bring me stuff???????????
or they will mug you
so there just regular sea monkeys that I hatched mannnnnnn im bout put these mugs in the bioreactor lol
why did alterra send the aurora a decade after their guys got lost
also was there a gun near sector zero to shoot down the mercury ii
I was kinda thinking the same thing but maybe resorurces or something it is weird but it wasnt a decade it was 3 decades after mercury 2 from what I saw\
no i mean degasi
I think theres only one gun
there's just one gun but the planet rotates y'know
yeah but their wreck is in sector zero
i doubt the planet rotated 180° after they got shot so their wreck conveniently landed there
yea no shot everything that got shot down were in the exact spot the planet was rotating every single time those odds are slim
why do you assume sector zero is 180 degrees opposite the gun
we see it in sn1 ending
its not completely 180° but the planet would have had to turn a lot for the wreck to end up there
its easier to assume they entered the atmosphere above sector zero and perhaps another gun shot them down
you know what they say, assumption is the mother of all this and that
what that ice shelf in the outro of subnautica is hasnt been confirmed or denied. they also deleted the entry in the wiki that said sector zero was on the planet equator
the only lore indication of how far sector zero is from the gun is how long that leviathan corpse floated with a passenger onboard
btw didnt they mention at some point that aurora got shot down after getting near the planets atmosphere
there is a PDA in the mushroom forest wreck that clears some of that up
Iirc it’s just the 1 gun
And it uses some science thing so it can send the beam across the planet
A lot more qualified people then Riley were on the shops
It’s just Riley got insanely lucky, everyone else got bad luck or a warper
i guess thats fair
they had phasegates so interplanetary guns that go through planets arent out of the question
apparently interplanetary means between planets, what the hell is inter-oneplanet then
Intercontinental
We have those things tool in the form of missiles
does it count if the planet is one big ocean basically
inter...tectonic platical? doesnt roll off the tongue as well
Hello i need help, my snowfox as spawn under the map and i am at the Artic Spires cache
I feel like ryley went through everything they did tho no? then again he was a human up against sea creature who tf knows how he out maneuvered all of them tbf
also those sea monkey eggs do they specifically cater to me when I release them or no?
no, they do that anyway, but they won't swim off
They need to grow up and then occasionally will bring you materials
If you have material pinned then they’re more likely to bring you that
dont the wild ones do that too?
Yes
But you can produce tons of artificial ones to speed up the process almost
Therefore it’s better then feeding them to the bioreactor
Degasi didn’t have the materials needed to make it to the lava zone
Mercury 2 wasn’t in the correct location
And the survivors of the aurora didn’t survive long past the lifepod stage
Some exploded, some got eaten
And keen is expected to have been killed by Warpers
Riley lucked out that the Warpers didn’t get too him while he was knocked out and that his nearby biome was “safe”
all of this I get except for the degasi ryley dang near had nothing
can I not stack the alien containment things???
wait should I just keep the two sea monkeys in the containment then when they lay an egg throw it outside my base??
How many seatruck storage module do you guys carry ?
Full speed still with 2 modules. 3 if you have the horsepower upgrade
Then speed drops with each module
Okay thanks
One isnt enough
I'm going to build one more
||Btw are there any dangerous leviathan other than shadow and red one ?|| Yes or no is enough
yes
thanks
also things are breeding but like the eggs arent the same species why is that??
nvm its just a sea monkey baby
2 storage module should be big enough
Are reactors still overpowered as they were in original ?
Yes you can
build it and see
note, the truck dock has a large collision box preventing building in it
Oh
It doesnt
Did they remove ability to connect those ?
If you want to connect, you need to replace the i compartment with t compartment
And maybe it's too close...connections tend to need a bit space and be longer than just the pieces touching
Is below zero worth it?played it once a few years ago but lost my account it was on
it wasnt working I gave up lol
you can, it's not tricky either
I’m new here, I’m having problems with handheld scanner not scanning it just shows a circle spinning.. idk what to do it’s making both my Subnautica games unplayable, any suggestions will be highly appreciated
You have to scan the organism/Whatever else, until the scan is complete
So give or take several seconds
I haven’t had this problem before , It’s never took over 2 mins . As soon as I pull out scanner it just has like a load ⭕️ spinning , I’ve almost drowned trying to scan a seaglide part
well that's new
Have you tried reinstalling the game?
Yes, cleared cache, uninstalled both games and unplugged Xbox for 20 mins, plugged back in then reinstalled sub zero and still happening
screenshot this please
Will do
What do you mean “ain’t the same species”?
You mean little purple guys are produced?
I figured it out dw 😂
oh. Xbox
Yea but ik now that it’s the baby monkeys
how is babby formed
Shork Magic
Hello ^w^
Well, Ignis may have an idea. There is a console command that may help, it's "fastscan". But likely you will have other issues
|| Mercury II || feels too big
commands also disable trophies
|| What are the core like things we collect from Mercury II || I gathered 3 of them but i couldn't find anything in my crafting list or in logs
Follow the pilot
I also couldn't find anything about her
Go to the Lilly pads and go down a cave near an architect pillar thing
Oh okay thanks
Her base is around there somewhere
Will do once i get to play again
what are important things for a base
Location, power source, reinforcements, and abundance of resources
yeah learned about location the hard way when i built mine kind of in a crevas
Please tell Preston plant isn't farmable and not that it is farmable because I grabbed the plant and not the fruit it bears.
it is farmable
I picked the wrong one didn't I?
Well time to go 1300M again to the berg lol
With a Levi in between
Where to find Margaret i cant find anywhere 😭
Which base are you looking for
In the Lily pad zone there should be a big hole with a Architect box pillar looking thing, go in the cave and you should find it
I agree ||Mecury II|| was really frustrating to explore. Very disorienting and I would go in there just to find out later I missed a pda that actually gave me super valuable information or something in a single room that has a very convoluted path to get there
Its like taking the wrecks and making them 10× bigger and more disorienting
i actually kinda liked exploring the ||mercury|| but it didnt give off the same claustrophobic "oh god where did i come from" feels as sn1 wrecks
mostly because of the oxygen plants
when she will attack me with a prawn suit
at a certain point at the ||deltea ||||island||
can u give x y z
just explore the island
would she spawn on creative
i donno i dont think so
sadly
what is the best place for me to build my base?
i build ussally at the delta island
somewhere near delta. Leave room to grow sideways
i build in a too shallow biome
English only here
this gives fortnite bus vibes
Subnautica Battle royal confirmed?!
I built it in Twisty Bridges. Worst placement ever
imagen 100 reapers drop on the map and fight to the death. i would watch it
Huh Bz Looks different than I remember
yea i can see they added the seamoth in the last patch
Maybe due to popular demand
plopular demand
I might make a mod for both games that improves the PDA entries and descriptions if I can figure out how to
Can chacilerates blow up your base?
I wish
is this a good spot for my base? its by 2 chacilerates and the volcano with the alien ground sampler
If it’s by two leviathans probably not, but if you already built there it’s not that bad
No
ok
They wanted to make sure the leviathans here were not so easy to kill so intentionally left out the stasis and no gas pods.
As it should be and I am looking forward to being a thing in SN2 :)
I dont even use the stasis rifle to kill them i just use it to scan them
I think this is a pretty cool base
Plenty of people do but it's not that hard to scan even the most dangerous in the game.
whats the most dangerous
sooo. any time that I try and put down a spy pengling or waterproof locker they just straight up disappear and my hands get stuck in the position of holding a waterproof locker
i can fix the hand glitch by quitting and goign back into the save, but even if I close the game it'll still do the same thing
K, so if I spawn a spy pengling with console i can still use it with the remote, but if I pick it up, I can't put it down
Mods. Specifically more quickslots
there are working alternatives
I do have more quickslots
it's a lot older than the update
my beloved quickslots are making issues 😭
there's at least one working replacement
quick slots + ?
ah, ohay. thank you
Havent played sub in like 3 months, Should i play again? it got boring after i found
