below-zero-chat

[keen dagger]

Ok.

The visibility is difficult quite a bit here :D

[craggy mesa]

Yes

But if you kill them they will never respawn I think

[keen dagger]

I try not to kill things :) even in the first one I never killed a leviathan.

Btw should I collect all lithium I find?

I found quite a bit of it just lying around

I'm trying to separate myself mentally from the first SN some, and there it was very important to get lithium.

[craggy mesa]

yes you could grab some lithium

[keen dagger]

Ok :) thank you

[eternal garnet]

don't go crazy with it

[keen dagger]

Ok I won't

I like the biomes minus the bad guys :) this stair pattern is very pretty.

[echo trail]

I have a base 30ish meters from it

It is my main one

[keen dagger]

I bet that's nice, I still have a basic base near Twisty Bridges.

It won't let me put the noot fish in the aquarium.

I thought for some reason you could.

Will I be able to in the containment tanks?

[eternal garnet]

to get? yes

[keen dagger]

Ok.

Thanks for your help meatie.

[keen dagger]

So quick question, I am back inside the ship I was lost inside of last night, is it mostly for just collecting resources and food/water? I don't really see anything to scan except these skeleton looking fish.

Also the laser cutter has been a lifesaver this time.

[eternal garnet]

There is a third wreck. Biggest

[keen dagger]

I found like 4 exits

This one has a small dome on top

So I am assuming it's mostly to get some stuff and not anything I can scan, right?

[eternal garnet]

scan items + the maida quest favor

[keen dagger]

I am looking for items I can scan :)

I've yet to find any only water and food

In fact it's interesting in the group I moderate, we have a general category and apparently some Subnautica enjoyers that like to ask me about my Journey :D

[eternal garnet]

Make them play BZ

[keen dagger]

I mentioned getting lost in a wreck last night and someone said "let me guess the one that requires laser cutters"

they already have lol

[eternal garnet]

it's a great game, just don't expect it to be SN2

[keen dagger]

Oh no, I can't wait to try early access for that one

[rocky idol]

Just beat the game :D

I'm gushing again, the endings for both games were bangers

[keen dagger]

Oh finally found a PDA

this maze is hard.

I did find good stuff in there :)

They want you to really explore, reminds me of the first one 🥲 except different.

[steel stream]

The mercury 2 bow and stern wrecks are somewhat larger than wrecks in the first game, but oxygen plants help exploring them

[keen dagger]

So far I've read Yasmin and Stefanos communications lol awe

[coral siren]

Is there a lore reason the wrecks slow you down

[keen dagger]

I literally would of drowned Robin last night if it hadn't been for those I was depleting everyone of them sometimes more than once trying to escape the maze.

I didn't realize how important the laser cutter was at the time.

I have it now though!

[steel stream]

Oxygen plant gives 30s oxygen, so if you can find two relatively close to each other, you can stay there as long as you want

[keen dagger]

I want to say there were maybe 3 or 4 close to eachother and I kept going between them.

I didn't want to stay there lol it was nervewrecking

[waxen ore]

Does anyone want to go into the voice chat?

[eternal garnet]

[keen dagger]

Yet we don't have this poster

:/

[eternal garnet]

we have its successor. "Hang in there"

[keen dagger]

Oh I've not found that one.

It has a cat?

I have "Keep Calm and Truck On"

[eternal garnet]

same artist and cat

[keen dagger]

Yay!

[broken badge]

The highlight feature can be quite helpful to point out discoveries
I know not everyone may like the look of it, some people forget it’s even there to turn on (under accessibility options) but you can choose the color and it does help you see things especially in darker environments like wrecks, caves, or just at night in general

[eternal garnet]

or the invisible little potato that is nickel

[broken badge]

Nickel looks kind of like a puffed out wing nut😂

But potato works too🥔

[coral siren]

It fits because potatoes are the best

[echo notch]

does anyone know where to get the statis rifle bluprint the theres only one guide on youtube and its not helpful

[eternal garnet]

you go to the other game to get it

it is available by cheat though

[echo notch]

wow

kool

that makes scence because it was very op

thanks

[keen dagger]

Is this the thing that helps you find your way out of closed spaces?

[broken badge]

It’s not like sonar, it doesn’t light up the contour of walls for example. But I guess it could help with seeing walls to some extent if you thought of how it highlights outcrops and such on cave walls, it could help navigation in that regard (if that’s what you’re referring to). But you have the seaglide with light (and map, if you make use of it) to help as well

It highlights things you can pick up, or can interact with

[keen dagger]

I use to ignore the map feature on the sea glide but I might want to learn it haha!

In the first I never used it.

Although the most complex thing to explore was the Aurora there.

[broken badge]

Most of the time I find the seaglide map distracting. But I’ve used it a few times

Some of the creepvine caves can get twisty

[echo trail]

The map has its niche

[keen dagger]

Where?

[echo trail]

Shadow already mentioned the creepvine caves but I would add in the first game the trees in the mushroom forests that you can go in

[coral siren]

It can orient you in caves and also give you an idea of the terrain around you

[keen dagger]

Ok I will learn it then.

[meager tide]

when does subnautica above 1 come out

[coral siren]

2018

[gusty yarrow]

Do I have to scan each ||artifact|| before going in that alien place ||in purple crystal zone||

[bold monolith]

No.

They're all optional but they unlock dialogues and alien technologies.

[rare trellis]

does having the lights in the cylops on drain battery

[meager tide]

wrong chat bro

[sterile violet]

How did marg survive 12 years with kharra

[jolly nebula]

Im pretty sure it drains battery in both

Both games i mean

On all things

But im not sure

[sterile violet]

I think her and bart realized peepers slow down infection

And they farmed them and got enzyme out of them

And marg kept herself alive with enzyme 42 injections

Marg was chilling while the aurora stuff happened

She probably saw it

[steel stream]

Vehicle lights don't use power (except seaglide, if you count it as vehicle...and not sure about snowfox actually)

[echo notch]

I beat bz. YIPPEE!

[eternal garnet]

[keen dagger]

In the first one there was a thermal plant, is there one in this one?

I remember using it around the thermal vents to set up bases.

[echo trail]

No alien vents in below zero tho

[sterile violet]

What

[keen dagger]

There are thermal ones that expel steam.

[sterile violet]

Marg must have stock piled years worth of enzyme 42 from the crator and injected her self

[echo trail]

Yeah but the enzyme peepers came from the sea emperor

[keen dagger]

So in the first SN I built a base in the ||lost river|| using a thermal plant and thermal vent for energy. Do thermal plants exist here so I can harbor the heat for energy?

[sterile violet]

Marg got a load of enzyme from the crator

[echo trail]

She wasn't prepared to leave when the sea dragon hit

[sterile violet]

Oh yeah she didn't carry anything with her

It was a sea dragon that attacked her?

She towed a reaper and a reaper followed that and a sea dragon followed the reaper

[keen dagger]

This, does this exist in bz?

Solar panels do and power transmitters I wasn't sure if this did and if not that's a shame.

As there are many places to power a base with it.

[echo trail]

Yes

[keen dagger]

Thank goodness I just have to find it then, thank you!

[echo trail]

No problem and good luck

[sterile violet]

How do we get the crystal reactor

[echo trail]

Nuclear reactor?

[sterile violet]

No

[atomic onyx]

Is there any way I can get my world back? Today when I finished playing BZ I double saved my world just incase and closed it normally and went to play other game with my friend but unfortunately my pc crashed and was banned in that game and I went to play BZ but my world said "damaged saved game"so I tried to restart my game and world is now completly gone .Is there any way to fix this or I have to play all over again?

[sterile violet]

It's like a thing you can place outside on crystals in crystal caverns or fabericator caverns . It's made from 2 drill arms, advanced wiring kit and air pump. It would drill deep into the crystal and pump pieces into the reactor and it made 1000 energy per minute and 1500 for red crystals. We can also collect crystals from it to decorate our base and aquariums

Where are the blueprints I wanna crystals

[echo trail]

I don't think that exists

[echo trail]

You bought the game right? Also have you been logging out normally consistently?

[sterile violet]

Must have been a dream or something ig

What if there was a third crystal caverns and it had crystals of all colors

And lava

[atomic onyx]

Yes I bought my game on steam and I was logging out normally there was nothing wrong before my pc crashed in other game

[echo trail]

I'm not sure

[sterile violet]

What's the name of the red and purple crystals in this game

There minerals not rocks btw

[eternal garnet]

morganite?

[sterile violet]

So it's red and pink beryl

Pink one is called morganite

[meager tide]

Arthur morganite

[dapper meadow]

ooh pretty rock

imagine a lamp like that

[stone orbit]

so how exactly does being whiter, having longer uh... tendril things, and a longer tail help this peeper species in the arctic

[eternal garnet]

sometimes, there's no reason. Maybe for bioluminescence

[sterile violet]

Because of morganite deposits in its skin it has purple stripes

(I made this up btw)

[limpid drum]

i would say its to disguise with the arctic but it still has a bright yellow eye so I dont think its doing it any good

[ancient flower]

You can probably find an “amethyst” lamp that looks similar, whatever you do dont look for actual amethyst tho

[dapper meadow]

why not

[limpid drum]

uh

it doesnt exist

[ancient flower]

Well, i assume its some form of adaptation similar to how jackrabbits work, where they help with temp regulation

[ancient flower]

Well, authentic amethyst chunks that big will cost you a good 300-600 dollars

[limpid drum]

oh you are talking about irl things

[ancient flower]

Yeah

[ancient flower]

Mentioned a lamp made of this material

I mean if you have that much money to throw around feel free

[dapper meadow]

I imagine you could achieve something similar looking with a good chunk of purple glass

[ancient flower]

Yeah its really not worth it unless ur into collecting stuff like that

[dapper meadow]

I'm basically a crow

[ancient flower]

Id love to be a geode collector but holy crap can they get expensive

[dapper meadow]

Just steal them

I'd love to have a chunk of indium to chew on

[ancient flower]

Check #off-topic

[dapper meadow]

Dead as hell

[ancient flower]

I mean memes and media

[keen dagger]

The glow whales are cute and all but I miss the reefbacks

[ancient flower]

apparently we almost got one. The scrapped concept for an arctic reefback:

[eternal garnet]

ice breaker leviathan

[ancient flower]

Ik thats the official name but it really is just an arctic reefback, which i assume is why it was scrapped

[eternal garnet]

I didn't even see the title when I said that

Not a lot of ice for it to break

[keen dagger]

Oh would penguins of stayed on it lol

[eternal garnet]

Also breaking terrain is complex

[keen dagger]

Yeah I thought that too

[ancient flower]

it doesnt need to actually, just kinda float around and then have some ice bergs that were "broken up" by icebreakers

then when you scan it it says that it somehow breaks icebergs, we just dont see them actively do so

[cedar edge]

im on below zero rn and there is a shadow leviathan next to me seatruck and wont move

what do i do

[limpid drum]

drive your seatruck away

[cedar edge]

its right infront of hit

and behind me is the wall of the cave im in

[ancient flower]

Get out and lure it away

Seaglide very slightly outruns it iirc

[cedar edge]

k

it sorta worked

its farther away but

in the process it broke the seatruck so all i have is the 5 modules i have on it

[limpid drum]

oof

[ancient flower]

Oof

[keen dagger]

So in the first one it was easy to avoid the leviathans that were aggressive, is it the same for this one?

Because it doesn't seem like it. Also I saw these things crawling on the ocean floor looked like a type of lobster.

[ancient flower]

Imo it is significantly easier

[keen dagger]

Ok. I really hope so :(

[steel stream]

With the seatruck perimeter defence upgrade, threats turn into annoyances at most

[keen dagger]

If I ever find it

:(

[novel dagger]

seatruck perimeter defence makes me feel powerful

[keen dagger]

I am looking forward to it, if everything would quit screaming at me when I swim by it.

The sharks are plentiful and loud

I also saw this strange thing looked like a lobster or something.

[novel dagger]

rock puncher maybe

[keen dagger]

That bad?

I mean the word punch is concerning haha!

[steel stream]

Pilot's base, on the floor.

[sterile violet]

i just beat bz

[graceful tiger]

I don't know if i would like seeing this in bz. Because like. It could have been only spawnes in some areas like the east and west arctic but at the same time i think bz fauna is more different from sn1 in a way. Yes theres some fishes from sn1 in bz but not all of them.

Also the sparse repear is funny

Although i wish the hoverlizard made it in

Its so cute! Like the hoverfish

[stone orbit]

okay so i uh might be stupid

i bought both games individually, then i bought something called "deep sea bundle"

[eternal garnet]

fish game, cold fish game

[stone orbit]

i thought it was like a DLC with extra creatures

turns out its just both games in one package

which i already manually bought💀

[eternal garnet]

no. Best word for it is spinoff. Subnautica 2 is in development now

If you bought it on steam, and have that on steam, the older game is deducted from your price

so the bundle is a great way to get BZ

Did that make sense? If you own SN, buy bundle, the bundle is cheaper than buying BZ

[echo trail]

I think they're saying they already bought both games and then they bought it again

[eternal garnet]

silly. Well steam allows refunds

up to 2h playtime. Sad for 1h games

[eternal garnet]

If you have both games on steam, steam refuses to sell the bundle

[worldly condor]

yeah tbh some of the creatures in bz have their issues like the ice worm, but they were pretty fun to be around, I just hated dealing with this guy though, he does absolutely nothing, and I hear him like half way off the map like he's a leviathan or something, but no, it's a small fry that was copy pasted in both purple vents and delta, he would be good if his volume was turned wayy down though, like I know some ppl didn't like bone sharks in og game being in a lot of biomes and squidsharks here in bz being pretty prevalent but I honestly liked those a lot better compared to this

Ok damn I wrote a whole paragraph lol didn't mean to but I like to get all my thoughts out in one message

[plucky gate]

Are there any laviathans near the ||mercury||?

[eternal garnet]

there are 3 mercury wrecks. Only the tiny thrusters one has a resident chelicerate

[plucky gate]

Im at the one near the delta station

[eternal garnet]

yes it's safe

Bring laser cutter. Drowning risk

[plucky gate]

Bruh

I havent even made one

[eternal garnet]

Maybe bring also a 2nd air tank. You can swap underwater

a good strategy until you get ultra capacity. Just remember to refill both

[keen dagger]

I've done this

[digital gyro]

how should name my seatruck ?

🤔

[next current]

Name it Greg.

[coral siren]

Name it Kiro

[jovial stone]

Might be unpopular but i hope theres a sequel spinoff for Below Zero continuing ALAN and Robin's story; i just like both of them lmao, i wanna know what happens after

[plucky gate]

I didnt need that

[eternal garnet]

ok. But theres another bigger wreck

a true maze

[plucky gate]

Im built different (i put my seatruck at the entrance and ran to it every time i got to 60)

[coral siren]

In a way I do too but sometimes a story is best left vague for the interpretation of the player

[plucky gate]

U lied to me btw

[eternal garnet]

oh no!

[plucky gate]

I have a spiral plant growing in my exterior growbed now

U told me id have to go into a creature

But i didnt

[coral siren]

Meatie lied, well this is a bannable offense

[eternal garnet]

yes? I know it can be planted
Have to? There are two other ways to get it, although one of them involves un-crafting some snythetic fiber

[plucky gate]

I obtained it from outside a creature

[eternal garnet]

yes. somewhere below the tiny wreck

[plucky gate]

I didn't enter a creature

Oh

[eternal garnet]

I may have only mentioned the easier way to find it

[plucky gate]

U didnt tell me abt the wreck cus it would've spoiled it

[plucky gate]

Nah uh u mentioned the hard way

I got mauled by a chalicirate cus of u

Someone escaped tho

Cus it didnt follow me

Chalicirate are not nice

I went back to Margaret to see if the dog moved but it didnt but i noticed a module and it was a defence module so when i upgrade the crush depth im going into the deep swirly bridges

[eternal garnet]

I ahall refund your techsupport fee

[coral siren]

Can I have the money instead

[next current]

Same.

[keen dagger]

Yay! Finally found the ultra oxygen tank!

Well the blueprint now I get to make it <3

I don't remember it requiring a modification station the first time :o

[eternal garnet]

yes it does

[keen dagger]

ugh I forgot then

sorry.

It's a process lol

Wish the seamonkeys blessed me with table coral :D

[eternal garnet]

I think they can. Pin that, nothing else, try

pin a microchip for example

[keen dagger]

Oh ok

[eternal garnet]

see, what they give is only 50% random

[keen dagger]

By the way I highly recommend one thing. Don't remove the oxygen tank until you have the other one first :)

[eternal garnet]

but it's an ingredient

[keen dagger]

Yes I need the table coral and removed it without have the other one to replace it

I almost drowned

I was like why am I drowning...oh!

Oh I also got my first grabby plant down in deep twisty bridges

I thought it was a larvae lol

You would of been proud I didn't swim toward it and did away and I did the knife, took three tries until it let me go though.

[eternal garnet]

just seagliding away is enough. Know though that it will not reverse

[keen dagger]

It did so little damage too

[eternal garnet]

oh it can kill you with full health

[keen dagger]

I read it can ||eat|| the player or something

but I kept swimming away

It for sure surprised me

When I first saw the spinner fish I was afraid it would spin into me and do damage haha!

I didn't realize it was harmless

Now I have one in my aquarium

I've found so many blueprints for the seatruck too

[keen dagger]

Found the ||alien containment||!

I died :(

I like how there was one oxygen plant

In the part I was in

Glad it saved the scans though

[void magnet]

i found cool stuff

[keen dagger]

wrong chat

https://discordapp.com/channels/85342800492634112/103560355065634816

but congrats lol

[plucky gate]

Bro

Below zero is the spin off

[void magnet]

This is below zero

[keen dagger]

BZ doesn't have a seamoth

[void magnet]

I have the pda

Xenoworx

[keen dagger]

Oh mod?

[void magnet]

No

Console commands

[keen dagger]

Ah smart ok :)

[void magnet]

It’s very buggy

[keen dagger]

mb

[void magnet]

Np

[keen dagger]

I miss the seamoth :(

I am not on console

and I don't like mods

Enjoy <3

[cunning escarp]

||omg i was so dissapointed at the end when they just stopped there. i wanted to see the city of architects and possibly get to explore a little bit.||

[keen dagger]

Oh that's unfortunate.

Why does my brain want me to see the spoilers :(

[cunning escarp]

always lol

some guy is about to say hes cooking kyanite

[sterile violet]

What if someone at alterra discovered memorizers and lillypadders had a crazy high and farmed them and distributed the drug all across the galaxy using alterra shipping routes

[keen dagger]

Yeah I wonder who haha!

[cunning escarp]

lmao

[sterile violet]

It's below zero we only cook red and pink berly here

Those big purple and red crystals from the caverns

[cunning escarp]

honestly i like this game series so much but i wish that there was more people on the team and that they actually did stuff for the game. would it be insane if we had a game about the architects deciding to fight us and ALAN or a game where we get to explore the rest of the planetary system (mentionned in the degasi landing) etc

[keen dagger]

That would be nice.

I don't expect it to get updates though.

[sterile violet]

Yeah

[cunning escarp]

same here but im still incredibly hyped for subnautica 3

avoiding spoilers near release is gonna be torture

[sterile violet]

Entire plot leaked speedrun

[ancient flower]

Yeah im gonna go live in the woods with no internet access for 2 weeks before the game comes out

[cunning escarp]

omg totally

gotta turn of the router

its gonna be impossible to avoid because even if you go on tiktok or something and you skip the videos with spoilers you will still see a bit

[ancient flower]

Then ill play it the second it comes out and not get on any other media until im done

[cunning escarp]

or get too curious and see alot

[cunning escarp]

omg same

i wish it was coming out soon

[cunning escarp]

like i was telling the other guy i wish the team was bigger.

[ancient flower]

Unless it comes out in 2026 around the artemis launch in which case ill be in florida

[cunning escarp]

whats artemis?

[ancient flower]

Humans are going back to the moon

[cunning escarp]

oh cool

[ancient flower]

The artemis missions are related to that

[cunning escarp]

why would you be in florida though?

[ancient flower]

Artemis missions are nasa missions meaning they will likely be launched from kennedy space center

[cunning escarp]

yeah i figured but your gonna go see the launch?

[ancient flower]

Yup

[cunning escarp]

oh sweet

[ancient flower]

Didnt get to personally experience any of the old ones

[cunning escarp]

do you rly like space stuff?

[ancient flower]

I watched the livestream for the other artemis missions

[ancient flower]

Very much so

[cunning escarp]

thats awesome

explains why you like subnautica

lmao

[ancient flower]

Yup

[cunning escarp]

i dont love space but i love subnautica

idk why it just does something to me. im not very nerdy but when it comes to this game im 100% a nerd lmao

like i go to the gym 6 times a week but i can also sit for like 10 hours and tell you all about subnautica lore 😭

[ancient flower]

I also go to the gym 6 times a week, being nerdy by definition is just being very passionate and knowledgeable about a subject

[cunning escarp]

yeah i know haha it just seems very ironic to me

[ancient flower]

Fair lol

[cunning escarp]

thats sick that you go to the gym aswell

you gotta be jacked

[ancient flower]

Quite the opposite

Thats why i go to the gym, i only started recently

[cunning escarp]

oh dayum

i figured since you do 6 days a week you have been doing it for a while

[ancient flower]

I mean im not that bad but im like 240lb

[cunning escarp]

because for me i worked up to it

[cunning escarp]

could be muscle

[ancient flower]

It is NOT muscle

[cunning escarp]

but already the fact that you go to the gym and not to mention six times a week is awesome bro

good for you

[ancient flower]

Thanks bro

[cunning escarp]

im sure you look better than you think

how long have you been going?

[ancient flower]

Bout a month

[cunning escarp]

hell yeah

love to hear it

keep pushing you got this bro

[ancient flower]

Thanks

We should get on topic before we are executed tho

[cunning escarp]

frl 😭

if ever you need motivation or you feel like you gonna quit you can text me

lmao

[ancient flower]

Why the hell does the squid shark’s pda entry say its a leviathan

[cunning escarp]

omg its so annoying

[ancient flower]

Its so small comparatively

The game doesnt even have it in the leviathans section iirc

[cunning escarp]

i saw a thing about that saying that leviathan class means that its at the top of its food chain and leviathan has to do with size wich would make sense

or the opposite i cant remember

[ancient flower]

Leviathan as a word means big

Squidsharks are TINY comparatively to every single leviathan, even the sea treader

[cunning escarp]

yeah but you gotta admit it would make sense and explain why it says its a leviathan in the description but not the pda

[ancient flower]

I guess, but imo it kinda just defeats the purpose of the leviathan class

[cunning escarp]

i agree but its the best argument i got 😭

[ancient flower]

Fair

@ entire dev team why

[cunning escarp]

late response but lmao

i got slightly side tracked for two hours and studied biology

[carmine bobcat]

Hey so I got a question I found were sam lives on the game an I’m wondering did I skip something in the story ?

[bold monolith]

@lapis bay Windows key + r, shell:localappdatalow\unknown worlds\subnautica below zero, DM me your Player.log whenever you can.

[fathom marsh]

my prawn fell through the ground 😦

and now it's 100 meter beneath icy surface

when it was falling i pressed "unstuck menu", so Robin got out but prawn got left behind

[bold monolith]

Reload without saving or give me your global-objects.bin and I'll teleport it.

[steel shoal]

Environment concept artist didn't want to change it

[keen dagger]

I almost want to call everything aggressive and larger than the player a leviathan.

Interesting.

[steel shoal]

The game makes everything appear smaller. I think it's the same size.

[keen dagger]

I scanned a rock puncher yesterday :) it didn't even notice me really.

[steel shoal]

Ampeels are not leviathans, Sea Treaders are not long but they are huge

[keen dagger]

Oh yeah, those.

[steel shoal]

Glow Whales are currently the smallest leviathans, and they're about the size of a blue whale

So it's around 30m

Anything larger than that is a leviathan

[keen dagger]

It's too early here for math stuff lol

My brain lol

[steel shoal]

The math we're talking about is just
length > 30 = leviathan

You say 20, but Treaders are measured differently

They're very tall

I'd suggest Treaders are the only leviathans that aren't measured by length, otherwise they wouldn't be classified as such

that's a lot of volume

No

[coral siren]

They wouldn't be classified as a leviathan through length

[steel shoal]

Length is how long they go from head to tail

Size, is how much space they take up

[coral siren]

Would the ancient floaters classify as leviathans

They are quite large

[steel shoal]

They are multiple creatures

Like classifying a man'o'war as a leviathan

No, the Sea Treaders take up around 4000m³

[coral siren]

Are you.. sure about that..?

I think 20m and above is the size of a leviathan

Juvenile vent gardens count and they are 22m

Big

[steel shoal]

We don't use juveniles for measure, otherwise anything longer than 3 meters would be a leviathan

By size. Very long fish are always bulky

[coral siren]

Big

It has to be good enough

[fathom marsh]

now i wonder how it's encoded since i only found list of exosuit modules

[bold monolith]

-73, it isn't very deep.

[fathom marsh]

it fell somewhere near Phi lab, when i was on land. and i spend next 30 mintues trying to find if it landed on some udnerwater tunnel with no luck...

[bold monolith]

I'll place it around there.

[fathom marsh]

oh no...

thanks, but... i messed up

turns out most recently created saved is not obliged to have highest number 🙂

[bold monolith]

Send it again.

[fathom marsh]

i should have checked screenshot

[fathom marsh]

thank you

[gusty yarrow]

I found some kind of ||red crystal place||

Is it safe

[keen dagger]

I don't think anywhere is safe to be honest.

[next current]

No. Nowhere is safe.

Even the Shallow Twisty Bridges aren't safe.

[gusty yarrow]

In your base even

[next current]

Yup.

[keen dagger]

Haha yes of course your base

unless you flood it

then it's not

[steel shoal]

My chairs have proven my base very unsafe

[keen dagger]

I've heard about that :(

[next current]

That Squidshark I brought into my base is looking at me... I think it licked its lips as well. Salivating to what a human like me could taste like.

[gusty yarrow]

But what is here

[next current]

||More Shadow Leviathans.||

[keen dagger]

Glad to know :)

Are they the most dangerous?

[next current]

They're very aggressive, yes.

[keen dagger]

ugh

[ancient flower]

I don’t think they are too bad personally, def doesnt feel as dangerous as most of the s1 leviathans to me

[keen dagger]

Are they worse than the ghost in SN?

[ancient flower]

Not really imo

[keen dagger]

Ok.

[gusty yarrow]

I'm stuck in the ||pink crystal place||

How do I get out

[eternal garnet]

there are two exits. easiest to find is directly west

[keen dagger]

Well this is upsetting, thanks meatie for helping them and also me when I am there :)

[gusty yarrow]

I'm near the entrance of the ||red crystal||

[eternal garnet]

yes. Go other end to get out

maybe you left a beacon at the pilot. I would

That's the other exit

[gusty yarrow]

Nah

I just have the market

Also I'm in my prawn

[sterile violet]

What if the mercury 2 crashed into the crator instead

[keen dagger]

I would be even more sad because I would have to go there.

[dim sorrel]

Is torpedo arm worth building in late game BZ? I ended up recycling the propulsion cannon after being disappointed with it, seems like drill and punching arm does everything I need it to

[eternal garnet]

No. What you should be using is truck perimeter defense

100% efficiency, timed right

[echo trail]

Alternatively stepping into another compartment also has a 100% accuracy

[dim sorrel]

Yeah that tracks with what I've seen so far on shadows and chellies. Prawn felt a little helpless drilling down in the CCs, am just letting it get attacked once or twice then hiding to repair. Thanks!

[eternal garnet]

so you fire, non-charged, on start of attack

This cancels the attack

[dim sorrel]

What about while in prawn? Any better technique than drilling/punching in the mouth, then hiding to repair?

[eternal garnet]

some players can get amazing speeds with the grapple. So grapple away maybe. IDK

[dim sorrel]

Cool I will try that. This is my first playthrough of both games, started this right after finishing the first so haven't hung out in endgame too long. Now to find the benzene!

[keen dagger]

I know in the first game the ghost and eels were not really affected by the seamoth perimeter defense but the reaper was, is there any hostiles in this the perimeter defense doesn't work so well on?

[eternal garnet]

the worm lol

it works best to cancel a grab attack. So thats most of them

[void magnet]

worm

[keen dagger]

Ok thank you for the heads up.

[slim elbow]

We need an update

[sick aurora]

we need subnautica 4

[steel stream]

Let's first wait for Subnautica 2 (in development) and 3 (not confirmed that they would even do this) before starting to wait for 4...

[sick aurora]

no

[dusk phoenix]

Ok , just wait a long ,long long ,long,long,very long Time to the subnautica 4

[craggy mesa]

Is the ||antidote part with the frozen leviathan|| mandatory or can I just skip it ?

[steel stream]

It's basically tied to the reason you come to the planet to begin with, but for finishing the game It's optional...

[graceful tiger]

||the cheli is barely aggressive for some reason. I have no idea why||

[gusty yarrow]

I've found a lot of the ||artifacts|| I got three is that all?

[echo trail]

I think there are 12

[jovial stone]

https://fxtwitter.com/alexriesart/status/1845842785775341707?t=WYwvBbWP3Ihbd-pIJjthrA&s=19 i definitely feel like the Rotnest Concept could be something for its own game than be like a secondary threat in Subnautica. The Rotnest Sounds like Kharaa level of threats

[ancient flower]

Below zero and subnautica in general have so many crazy concepts

[craggy mesa]

is the quantum locker useful ?

[eternal garnet]

sort of. Even with just one, it extends storage a little

[ancient flower]

Isnt it basically an ender chest

[eternal garnet]

yes, a portable one

[ancient flower]

You can always have some important items on you that you normally dont need but has several specialty cases

[eternal garnet]

it's a reward for finding artifacts

[steel stream]

I still haven't figured out why you would make more than one...12 extra inventory slots feels better than having locker accessible on two bases🤷‍♂️

[eternal garnet]

I would agree

[steel stream]

Rephrasing made it take some extra time

[steel shoal]

Put one in every base, you'll need to carry around 16 less items

[eternal garnet]

I typically only make one proper base

[steel stream]

But what if I carry one with me all the time, and have the stuff even when not in a base...

[craggy mesa]

I have a prawn suit and a seatruck but I don’t have a laser cutter or a repair tool x)

Haven’t even visited delta island yet

[dark crow]

what am i missing?

[eternal garnet]

Alien Row-Boat

I don't know

[dark crow]

where art thou find that

oh

[eternal garnet]

in the joke department

[dark crow]

not very helpful of you

[eternal garnet]

oh, actually, I think there are two ground samplers

[raven flume]

I think there are fifteen artifacts total, but its been a very long time from when I looked that up. So unless the ion cube doesn't count you have them all.

[eternal garnet]

and where are ||architect organs?||

[raven flume]

Right those.

[dark crow]

where do i fidn em

[eternal garnet]

Deep. Another hint: ||Hole going down from 670m||. Where? ||Crystal caves||

[chrome falcon]

is there a chat for base building

i made an epic base

[eternal garnet]

there is! #🏠awesome-bases

[spice spruce]

hey do you know if it is normal if i don't have the habitat builder after like 4h of game play ?

[eternal garnet]

it's a little difficult to find. The best spot is ||120m down twisty bridges, by a little building||

[spice spruce]

||twisty bridges ?||

[eternal garnet]

it's the starting biome, but a little more south

those coral bridges names it

[spice spruce]

oh yeah i see

[eternal garnet]

it's not a spoiler, but maybe you didn't want me to say where it is

[spice spruce]

no no don't worry that is what I was looking for thanks

[eternal garnet]

youll find another thing you want there

[spice spruce]

this ?

[eternal garnet]

no, but you found the rebreather, nice

at 120m exactly

[spice spruce]

don't worry I'm further in the game I am at the

||architecht||

[eternal garnet]

i have a picture of it

[spice spruce]

yeah i see where it is thanks

found it

[eternal garnet]

scan the window too

[spice spruce]

I have been her i just didn't see the habitat builder

so already did it

[eternal garnet]

did you also miss: perimeter defense for the truck? it's definitely missable, somewhere: ||Maida's home||

[spice spruce]

I am looking for her home cause i got spoiled but don't wory i'm going to explore

[eager cape]

I love cuddle fish 👍

[eternal garnet]

[ancient flower]

How does the progression of bz work? Ive done plenty of s1 but havent really gotten far in bz, so what am i looking out for?

[echo trail]

Look for wrecks

And islands

[ancient flower]

Cool so its the same -lifepods

[echo trail]

Kinda

[vital wadi]

youre cooked lowkey

[outer tundra]

i finished the game and now im not sure what to do

[steel shoal]

Uninstall, forget about it, reinstall

There's not much to expect from a single-player game after you finish it. You can explore it fully, repeat your favorite tasks, but that's about it

[coral siren]

I mean bz still very much keeps to the sandbox nature of sn1

Build a bunch of bases, go scan everything, build everything, make the seatruck of your dreams, and whatever else you like

[coral siren]

Regale us with precursor lore @steel shoal

[novel dagger]

im playing bz because i got bored of subnautica now

[novel dagger]

also i literally have nothing else to play

[ancient pivot]

Does anyone know where the general location of the ||Architect tissues|| is? I've found the other two but I can't find this one ;-;

[steel shoal]

uhhh I think he said they're a mix of multiple species and tech advancements, and also talk telepathically. SE was able to talk to mindless fish, Ryley and Bart no worries but said the Aliens couldn't hear it. might be like radios in different frequencies

[steel shoal]

You know the bridge near Phi?

[ancient pivot]

I think so

[steel shoal]

Just get to the other side

[coral siren]

I think it has to do with their brains being largely inorganic

[ancient pivot]

Ah okay, thank you ^^

[steel shoal]

Have fun and good luck, you'll need it

[ancient pivot]

😭

[coral siren]

I mean the brains work as what amounts to a hard drive

[novel dagger]

arctic peepers are yummers

[coral siren]

Aren't they described as spongey

[novel dagger]

i chew on sponges for no reason then put them down once i gain knowledge of what im doing so

[coral siren]

That's kinda gross

[steel shoal]

sponges are animals

[coral siren]

Kitchen sponges are not animals

[steel shoal]

brah

toy fishes aren't animals either

[coral siren]

Brah

You aren't an animal either

[novel dagger]

well yeah

[coral siren]

I'm a bot

The best bot

[carmine bobcat]

stickman you aren't allowed here

[novel dagger]

i am

you cant stop someone from going to a channel that theyre allowed to go to

i didnt know how to phrase this

[steel shoal]

introducing Andy with mod perms 😼

[coral siren]

I'll ban you Andy

[novel dagger]

i just wanted to play bz ;-;

[coral siren]

Or turn you into Andy without mod perms

Which would hurt you more?

[novel dagger]

probably andy wihtout mod perms

im doing so well on mobile arent i?

i suck at typign on mobile

[coral siren]

I only type on mobile

[ancient pivot]

I see what you mean by "good luck" now ;-;

[timid topaz]

Howdy

[oblique crane]

is this game still buggy?

[gusty yarrow]

Depends

[junior light]

it doesnt throw you out the cyclops because there's no cyclops in it. that's one way to fix that bug.

[eternal garnet]

on PC bugs are rare. But save often

[zinc void]

lovely

[bitter aurora]

Is Below Zero a spinoff or like a second game?

[neat burrow]

spinoff ig

same planet different story and character

it takes place after the virus is cured

[timid agate]

i'd call Below Zero an "interlude" to Subnautica 2

it is technically a sequel, but it's not like, THE sequel

[vernal urchin]

spinoff

[junior light]

standalone DLC

[eternal garnet]

my vote is for spinoff

[next current]

Definitely a spinoff imo.

[bitter aurora]

Thank yoyu

[chrome cedar]

Sequel implies a continuation of the story. Which BZ was not.

Much like Dukes of Hazard was not a sequel to Gone With The Wind, since they were both set in the South...

[solemn summit]

honestly in my opinion i wouldnt think its a spinoff

the lore is as it goes, we're still ||on the same planet|| and ||theres a surviving degasi member||

[junior light]

BZ builds upon Ryley curing the virus so it's a continuation of the story of the first game

[solemn summit]

just keynoting some things

[pallid reef]

i love below zero

[vestal fable]

well then

WE WILL BE PLAYIN

when it comes out

[knotty shale]

what will the price be on subnautica 3

[eternal garnet]

wrong chat. Wrong name. And too early

[knotty shale]

wdym wrong name

[eternal garnet]

it's subnautica 2. Check the new channel today

[knotty shale]

subnautica 2 is subnautica below zero?

but ok

[eternal garnet]

it's not, You don't get to name the games

[knotty shale]

im not though

i thought it was 3 not 2

[chrome falcon]

i think bz was a “”dlc”” heavy quotations

sequel to the first one..?

[steel shoal]

A swing... and a miss. It's a spin-off, not a DLC.

[chrome falcon]

i was close

[chrome falcon]

you or another mod should do an (at) everyone saying that though lol

[steel shoal]

Not at all. The only thing they have in common is not being a sequel.

It's been told several times, even in dev posts.

[chrome falcon]

i guesssss

[tawdry magnet]

i still have 24 penglings in my storage

its been four months

[chrome falcon]

food vault

[tawdry magnet]

the bio reactor

[chrome falcon]

feed you/your base

is what the bioreactor does

[ancient flower]

More of a standalone expansion than a spinoff imo

[steep pulsar]

Ok, so I just reached ||delta station|| (I’m spoiling it because idk the rules of the server completely yet) where should I go next?… I just started playing this game after the first one and haven’t watched many people play it yet

[eternal garnet]

explore deeper bits of twisty bridges. There's a distress call, but also more below 300m

Or just explore. Exploration drives this game

Save often. Carry a beacon all times. The air bladder is now great, esp. early game

[steep pulsar]

Yeah that’s what I was afraid of… I’m trying to get a seatruck before I go deeper then 100 but I can’t find more stuff I need 1 more mobile vehicle bay, and 2 sea truck fragments

Update: 2 sea truck fragments-

[eternal garnet]

MVB: look for these on the sand
Truck: around delta dock

[steep pulsar]

Oh! I found another truck!

Good news gang, sea truck time!

Oh, it’s actually more simple then I thought

[eternal garnet]

it doesn't go deep now, but it will upgrade to go anyplace

er, not on land

[steep pulsar]

How deep? Like 200 right?

[eternal garnet]

150

[steep pulsar]

Oh, that’s good enough for my plans tbh

I just need it to get to other on land outposts

[eternal garnet]

more mid-game, it has a massive advantage against leviathans

[steep pulsar]

It’s time

[wooden junco]

why do i keep hearing a little ding but nothing shows up

[night sparrow]

i want this game back on game pass so much

[wooden junco]

same

stupid sunbeam countdown i cant see what i pinned 😦

[plucky gate]

Meatie have u seen the new trailer?

For sn2

[eternal garnet]

of course

[plucky gate]

Wrong channel

[wooden junco]

where?

[plucky gate]

U gonna but the early access

[wooden junco]

OHHHHH

[plucky gate]

?

[plucky gate]

#subnautica-chat

[wicked mortar]

anyone else mass kidnap penglings for fun?

[eternal garnet]

yeah sorry, pins were added very late

[wicked mortar]

just wondering

[subtle skiff]

cute doggy

[fickle haven]

Mm, yes, cute doggy indeed.

[zealous surge]

eat them

[whole kernel]

Mb if this is supposed to be asked elsewhere; but do we know if below zero will be continued as well? I don’t mean continued in subnautica 2, I mean will it eventually get its own sequel game or something of the sort?

[fathom marsh]

why wouldn't it let me build ladder ?

[agile canyon]

were you trying from the inside?

[fathom marsh]

yes

it worked when i finished hatch at the bottom

[obsidian bough]

Yall I just beat Below Zero and like

holy smokes

[eternal garnet]

[worthy remnant]

Hey guys what is new

[steel stream]

Yep, unfinished constructions can prevent further buildings

[pure epoch]

that... doesnt look right looooool

[carmine bobcat]

I have never seen these things

Where are they and what are they

[next current]

The eggs for the blue ones can be found in a small cave in the Arctic Spires and on an iceberg in the Western Iceberg Zone. The eggs for the gold ones can only be found in the Deep Lilypad Caverns. They are called Trivalves and they are the cuddlefish of Below Zero.

[mystic latch]

Below Zero spent too much time on land, and got rid of some good items like the rifle and the modular sea-truck.

[carmine sonnet]

This spooked me a bit
I didn't realize it was there until I take a closer look

[obsidian bough]

My new pet

[severe wyvern]

I can't stop laughing at the sound you used 😂

[civic tide]

how?

did you use commands?

[obsidian bough]

Creative mode

Custom creative mode

[civic tide]

I on console

so yeah

[obsidian bough]

They dont have creative mode on console?

[civic tide]

we do

[obsidian bough]

thats tragic. Im sorry ; v ; I play on PC

[civic tide]

but how did u get it in there?

[obsidian bough]

I baited it

[civic tide]

how did u close it off?

[obsidian bough]

by using myself as bait. I left an opening on one side

as soon as he was in, I built the bars

[civic tide]

oh oky

nice good job

[obsidian bough]

Now he's my pet

[civic tide]

lol

[obsidian bough]

Still thinking of a name...

[civic tide]

good luck

[unborn nimbus]

call him Peter :)

[lost copper]

I take them and I put them inside aquariums in my base

[brazen bane]

i accidently spoiled myself the whole game😭

[prisma prism]

I do that more often that I would like

[fiery rampart]

diederik

[obsidian bough]

I named him Bruce

Bruce Wayne

[fiery rampart]

missed the opportunity to name him diederik

[obsidian bough]

what is diederik

idk who or what that is

[river skiff]

where is this?

[obsidian bough]

hm?

[river skiff]

i didnt know there were shadows anywhere other than the ||crystal caves||

[tribal star]

How long does it commonly take to platinum below zero ?

[fiery rampart]

diederik

best name ever for a fish

[fervent bloom]

There’s one other biome with these creatures, though this does appear to be the one you’re thinking of.

[river skiff]

That is definitely not cc

Its too cramped

[obsidian bough]

Took me 5 days

[obsidian bough]

This is the crystal caves

[tribal star]

Damn

Easy one then

Thanks

[keen dagger]

Hello!

[steep pulsar]

Just reached ||alien sanctuary||! Woop!

Now.. where should I build my base

[steep pulsar]

Alright! Bio reactor is up

[glass scroll]

this is actually so cute

[hot rain]

can the void cheli bite me through my base walls? 😭

[carmine bobcat]

No

Nothing can bite through base walls

[hot rain]

it's so huge LMAO im scared

so the moment i leave the hatch they'll jump me asap right

[carmine bobcat]

You can maneuver around them
They aren’t super fast and smart

[steel stream]

If observatory still counts as own biome, you could build that to get some time to exit your base safely.

[spiral isle]

Gonna start a new save. Only ever played through BZ once but I’m excited now

[sterile violet]

What are the most fire sb below zero ost

[tender storm]

What next lol

imma try to list things i already did

[shadow pond]

where the fent at

[tender storm]

Got blueprints for Neptune
Fixed Aurora generators
Made Seamoth with Depth 3
Made Prawn with drill arm
Saw the Sunbeam fireworks

[tribal star]

Hola

[normal goblet]

Bonjour

[steel stream]

Did you notice you're in below zero chat?

[tender storm]

Oopsies

[keen dagger]

Nice job!

Tell the reaper I said hello :)

[gentle thorn]

Does anyone agree with me that below zero is incredibly underrated?

[eternal garnet]

yes

[junior light]

is it rated... below zero ?

[jolly nebula]

Yes

Its fun af

[gusty yarrow]

I went to the ||red crystal place|| but didn't find anything

[obsidian bough]

Al-an is literally the best thing about Below Zero. Him alone makes the game worth playing and I hate that there are so many people saying negative things about BZ

[obsidian bough]

Keep looking. It is in the back towards the middle of the cave low on the ground.

[gusty yarrow]

Ik that, but can't find the middle One of the components

[obsidian bough]

It's in the first area with the purple crystals

[gusty yarrow]

||tissue||

[obsidian bough]

Look for a large crystal formation with a hole inside

U go inside the hole

[gusty yarrow]

Yeah I've been there

[obsidian bough]

Tissue is in the artic area

In a cave

Where the ice tower spires are

[gusty yarrow]

Where is that

[obsidian bough]

It's not too far from where u descend into the purple crystals where margarites base is

If ur coming from that direction it will be on the right

It's a large circular formation with a hole in it

[gusty yarrow]

On the surface?

[obsidian bough]

Swim into the hole and I will find the organs

Oh uh

For the tissues u will go to the area where all the ice worms are

Where there are pointy ice spires

And it's a cave in that area

Follow the architect cables

[steep pulsar]

Guys, I found this giant like, variet of the squid shark?- or what ever it is with those mandable things- it starts with a C- what is that..?

[echo trail]

Chelicerate.

[steep pulsar]

It looks cute, I want one as a pet

[eternal garnet]

it's a lot bigger and redder

[chrome falcon]

does anybody know good base locations, all the places i can find are ugly, or i cant build anything big in

[obsidian bough]

I like to build mine right in the middle of the coral bridges

[steep pulsar]

Oh, the one I found is white-

[obsidian bough]

those are the void Chelicerates

[eternal garnet]

yes there are those too

[obsidian bough]

I think they are older?

and the red ones are like babies?

[eternal garnet]

I prefer Alive, and Undead

[obsidian bough]

they do be lookin like zombies lmao

[steep pulsar]

So I unironically built my first base above ||marguerit’s base|| and I’m laughing like crazy

[novel dagger]

+1 neighbor

[steep pulsar]

Rather she likes it or not XD

Just take my prawnsuit down and be like “hey neighbor, can I borrow some sugar!”

[woeful sequoia]

I'm about to play BZ for the first time (fully blind), and I have two options. I have a VR headset and I know there is a VR mod for below zero, but is it worth it to do my first playthrough in VR?

[burnt gate]

i don't think there is a functional below zero vr mod

[woeful sequoia]

There is
https://github.com/jbusfield/SubmersedVR/releases/tag/0.7.0-bz

[burnt gate]

oh wow i probally didn't know because it is only on github

[carmine sonnet]

It will take a while to get used to.. But I say it's not that worth it
You do you tho I'm sure it'll be fun

[woeful sequoia]

For reference I do have experience with VR controls

I played a bit of subnautica 1 in vr

[carmine sonnet]

Oh that's nice

Well then sure go ahead, I think it's gonna be more fun to have your first playthrough in vr

[echo trail]

Nah I doubt it's that fun

Id worry too much about bugs and glitches

[stark lagoon]

Hmm. I remember the first time I deployed my snow fox I clipped it into the ground, and so then I used console commands to clip into the iceberg and grab the snowfox, then procede as normal, but then I think that made me ineligible for the steam achievements 😕 is there any other way I can get the achievements? I played the game normally from then forward!

I also had the bug where I built the ||body of Al-An and then nothing happened, so I had to restart the game to continue||

[burnt gate]

no console commands disable achievements

[eager cape]

Whoever types next farms and spawn kills cuddle fish

[reef sleet]

But this is the below zero chat not the subnautica chat

So that can’t happened

[wet harbor]

Man i wish below zero have my languages

[north terrace]

It would be cool if they added an update to belov zero that you could swim faster

I hate that you are so slow in the game

[bold monolith]

Sorry what?

Maybe you forgot because of QModManager/HarmonyPatches/EnableAchievements.cs, but by default any command will disable them.

[bold monolith]

Install Qmods, just that.

You don't have to play with any.

[lofty lintel]

whats ur language?

[fathom marsh]

the heck are those icy patches?

[steel shoal]

No idea

[rain flint]

This specifically is a lithium deposit

If that's what you're wondering at least

[coral siren]

||my main thing is just the inclusion of marg, I love her character and her voice acting but she should 100% be dead||

[rain flint]

Oh yeah for sure

The idea is neat but pretty unrealistic

[steel shoal]

The moment the ice melts a drop, the lithium deposit should explode

[rain flint]

It's not enriched lithium though 🙄

[coral siren]

So basically the crater is a nuke waiting to happen lmao

[rain flint]

It's oxidized too I reckon

[coral siren]

Stop using your silly logic

[steel shoal]

The more you think about her, the less sense it makes. How did she build habitats and tools without a fabricator?

[rain flint]

Didn't she have a fabricator?

Or at least a builder tool?

[coral siren]

You could imply she stole some alterra tech from the research outposts but that wouldn't be for 10 years

[rain flint]

She easily could've brought one allong

[steel shoal]

||She had a broken repair tool and a knife||

[coral siren]

On the reaper...?

[steel shoal]

She mentions not having anything else

[coral siren]

"Let me just take my wall fabricator and strap it to my back while I ride this beast into the void"

[steel shoal]

And then no power source...

[coral siren]

Wait

[rain flint]

Also, I've been wondering, in lore the tools would basically have to automatically adjust to materials in the surrounding areas. Considering the recipes are drastically different.

[coral siren]

Mercury

That had junk on it, maybe some salvageable

[steel shoal]

She didn't have a fabricator to build new tools

[rain flint]

Right???

[steel shoal]

They are, the PDA says that

[rain flint]

Doesn't the PDA mention it for being the whole world you're on.

[coral siren]

Presumably she had a air tank on her back, maybe the was enough to scavenge the mercury wreck for a hab builder

[rain flint]

I had to translate basically every PDA entry and I don't remember it being area based, but planet based.

[steel shoal]

The Mercury II has been lying there for a century or so

A habitat builder that still works? Unlikely

There's also a power issue

[rain flint]

She didn't have a scanner either

[coral siren]

True.. and anything you find in there is partial scans at best

Broken junk and so on

[rain flint]

However, the crates could definitely keep some tools intact

[steel shoal]

She has a Mk III Prawn Suit which is yet another plot hole

[coral siren]

The mk3s were on the mercury tbf, though they really shouldn't be

[steel shoal]

By the time of the Aurora, it was said to be the newest, very expensive version, only used in Alterra's most important missions like the Aurora.

[coral siren]

And mercury wasn't even alterra iirc

This is a smaller thing but where did she get the Preston plant?

They are only there somehow

[rain flint]

Welllll I mean if you think about it, time space theories states that time moves faster relative to an object near a denser object. So mercury could be laying on that seafloor for decades but for a spacecraft such as Robin, it could have arrived later/earlier. Soooo i guess that could be explained...

There's your logic

Perhaps robin was just near a black hole prior to arriving on the planet

[coral siren]

I don't get the logic

[steel shoal]

Me neither

[rain flint]

Well if you are near a really dense black hole for say an hour. On earth time would progress much much faster. 1 hour near a black hole would basically be a few years on earth. (For example)

[coral siren]

I don't think they ever go near a blackhole and regardless the vessel still sits down there decaying for the same amount of time

Our perception of time doesn't change times effects

[rain flint]

So mercury could've left from alterra home planet the same time Robin did and went straight to 4546B. Robin would-ve went to a blackhole first and then head there. For mercury time would be progressed much much faster.

Explaining the up to date tech

[rain flint]

For space travel blackholes are theoretically very useful as slingshots.

And its practically impossible to fall inside a blackhole

[coral siren]

We use phase gates

[rain flint]

True but you'd need one at the destination to begin with

So you'll need to travel there beforehand

[steel shoal]

She came to the planet during a meteor storm, taking advantage of the few moments the planet is being evacuated to look around for clues. It would make no sense for her to time travel and still get in time for the storm

[coral siren]

The one you go through in sn1

Aurora was building one much further away

[steel shoal]

You don't actually get through one

[rain flint]

This story has too many plotholes tbh

[steel shoal]

Wait

[rain flint]

I am proud to say that I've translated the entire intro of below zero in dutch though.

The latest one, not the dozen made before.

[rain flint]

Lmao you just broke your own role

[steel shoal]

I got it wrong, but the travel we made is traveling to the phasegate, not going through it

[coral siren]

Wait... the ion boosters just make a warp effect

Those are some beefy boosters

[rain flint]

I mean, did you see the aurora 😅

1/3rd of the ship is engine

[coral siren]

Aurora didn't have ion boosters

Though... I wonder if finding ion tech slingshots ship development forward

And getting to understand the architects build material more

Oh god alterra is gonna get filthy rich

[rain flint]

Robin could just y'know, nick Alans ship

Don't think she'd knock on Alterras door anytime soon though

[steel shoal]

She doesn't want to

[coral siren]

She might give the info to another corp tho

[rain flint]

I was pretty disappointed with the pixelated image we got as ||ending scene for BZ||

[steel shoal]

pixelated image?

[rain flint]

Yeah Alan's world

[coral siren]

I like the ending for bz, and it wasn't pixilated for me

[steel shoal]

it was fine for me too

[rain flint]

Like you warped to his world and you just saw a flat 2D image instead

[coral siren]

||It being vague and left up to people's imagination is the right way to finish things off||

[rain flint]

It wasn't vague it was just anticlimactic imo

[coral siren]

Imo sometimes fully showing is less interesting than imagining

[rain flint]

I think Subnautica nailed that better tbh

No spoilers Andy dw

[steel shoal]

I love that I can headcanon what happens next

Sometimes I feel BZ was made for me specifically 😭

All the things I could've asked for, right there

[rain flint]

Which story did you like best during the development?

[coral siren]

You got Alan and Robin so right in your little drawing lol

[rain flint]

I actually really liked how it started in the Alterra base with the fabrication facility at the start

Liked that story version, sad they scrapped that

[steel shoal]

I liked the old one, but everyone else hated it so I understand why the rewrite. But I'm really in love with the new one, despite the holes

[rain flint]

True

[coral siren]

I want a mix of both

[rain flint]

I just don't think it was the right move to have an independent space entity with no background information, but with seamingly the same tech.

[coral siren]

Sam being alive is better imo

[rain flint]

I didn't like how they kind of painted Alterra as the antagonist

[coral siren]

It made more sense in the previous story for alterra to be the antagonist

In this story it's kinda just paranoia

[steel shoal]

BZ paints Alterra as a questionable entity, unlike the previous game where they're straight up evil

[rain flint]

I guess so

Oops below zero chat my fault