#below-zero-chat
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where should i put my base this time?
Cotton Anemone Crevice
This is not the official name but I hope you know where it is
Did you try to back the seatruck onto it?
Oh that was a message from 7 hours ago xD
This game is so beautiful
i do lmao
Anyone know if the ||architect sanctuary || is safe?
What's the worst that could happen?
Right
Unless you're playing hardcore, dying isn't even that big of a deal, more like an annoyance
im so chronically online i see the subnautica northen lights and not the real one
Well, the real life one wasn't visible in my place, so BZ came to rescue. Beautiful game.
where are rubins???
wth is a rubin
Ruby?
Oh, ok
My favorite spot for rubies is in the tunnel between the dummy's base and her thermal plant farm -- lots of minerals there
Near ruby
sorry but i from poland and i have in polish
Real
No need to be sorry, we Subnauts live in all nations
okay 🙂
now i know it runs on vertical
interesting
makes sense
i used to play roblox and were feeling bad cause of the community there. i reminded i used to play water games as a kid i searched water games on google and it showed subnautica and subnautica below zero, i bought them 2 and started playing, very calming and the community is very good. i found subnautica's official server by going in subnautica wiki for help :)
How do you have 10 hotbar slots?
one of the most popular game mods
Wait, there are mods other than that nitrox thing?
yes, lots of mods that make small changes, like an interactive map
or makes stuff go faster
it's hidden, avail. by commands
does not work on everything, as it's not intended to be used. But it mostly works. I think it's also missing a skin
I cant actually get it, soooooooooooooooooooo
Now i really want to try below zero mods
Shame i dont have a computer
That's great to hear! Feel free to ask us anything, we might know a thing or two that wiki doesn't (yet)
You think wrong. I'm not sure if killing everyone who gets close helps with the cure.
ohh
Maybe there's a more plausible reason, somewhere.
tell me more
||They didn't want people to spread the infection to other planets||
Ay landy
ohh makes sence
Happy 3 year anniversary
happy!
i wonder why when Ryley got back home they wanted 1 trillion credits from him when the mission was find out what happened to degasi and explore
It was an automated message, it's very unlikely they forced him to pay. He did complete Aurora's secondary mission though, and BZ happening means Alterra had access to Ryley's PDA.
yay thats good
its crazy how everyone risked their lifes and didnt get money altho the ones hired them need the money
A happy fish.
You or the cryptosuchus around there.
i did, my seatruck is at 30 health
It doesn't turn very easily.
Yea that thing is relentless
only 10hrs in
I'm 2 days and 2hours and 33 minutes and I haven't even finished the game yet
And ur playing below zero?
ive seen youtubers play original
I've played the 1st subnautica about 3 times now
whats the biggest leviathan
I have both games on Xbox and on switch
This game really works well with my Thalassophobia
Um the ghost leviathan or the sea emperor either one of them i think
is the "jellyfish" leviathan dangerous
It will chase you through the deep sea
Is it harmless?
can i get a pic for ghost and sea emporor for comparison
No.
ion trust you
that was NOT a happy fish
not that bad
i remember seeing a leviathan in original game like near the size of that ship thing
The reaper leviathan are creepy
@cinder gale it was a bit of a spoiler for the first game. Please use spoiler tags for it.
Also the picture would be better in #subnautica-chat.
||gargantuan leviathan||
@placid kite you can see it on Jacksepticeyes playthrough of the 1 subnautica
cba watching it all
I don't know, it looks happy in this picture. I didn't say it was friendly.
is subnautica and subnautica bz same planet
Yes.
Both takes place on 4546b
are like all leviathans, is there only ONE
All are leviathans
There are multiple chelicerates on the map if that's your question.
awh
i dont get leviathans
like are they all same species or are they called that coz of theri aggressive nature
You will further into subnautica
So far I've only run into one kind one from the First game
My sea truck got destroyed twice
It will comeback
If it's like the first game not long
From the first game there were creatures that could emp your sub and seamoth
ouch
And it would say 0 power for I think 15 seconds or so
the seatruck speed boost updates, do they need to be found or do they come with mk3+
You need to find the upgrades
That section took me 4 hours just to get the upgrades to fight of some of the creatures from the deeper areas
Oh hey it's Below Zero's anniversary now, its 3 years old now right?
Oh right that's true!
Happy bday my beautiful baby, love Below Zero
My favorite Subnautica
exciting
its in the files, the mod i use just adds a texture and recipe
mfw still no pre-rewrite story script release
What?
You can go play it right now on steam
The end of it
I'm sure the story was finished and end just wasn't implemented or completely edited, that's what I'm talking about
Besides, the old story was scrapped for a reason
It was scrapped because directors were changed
Not only that.
Why else?
I haven't played the current version fully because I just don't like the story and the voice actor changes were not very imo
it also just doesn't have the same feel as the first game
Ever considered the possibility that maybe it doesn't want to be the same as the first game?
The story rewrite came from player feedback too.
"Same feel" doesn't mean it's an copy with a few changes, which it still essentially is anyway
what
where can i read about this old story? or a short resume i would not mind if you want
It's in the wiki, but you can also play it.
i can play it?
Yes, the latest pre-rewrite update is still available on steam.
Go to Betas and change the participation to early access 8.1
The actual ending isn't there, though, just everything leading up to right before it
From what I heard, the ending is there, but requires being triggered by console commands.
Never seen that anywhere
I'll have to check it.
It is the same as the first game, but it feels lackluster in comparison, like it was meant to be an addition and not a sequel, if that makes any sense
It has a pretty different design philosophy compared to SN. It's clearly trying to be its own thing, and not SN2. But people were really unhappy with the differences, and when they rewrote it to make it more simple, people got upset again.
I got it when the first early access build was released in 2019 as soon as it came out, imo the original story was more interesting than ||"my sister went missing on this planet controlled by big evil corporation, I'm going to go there alone on a tiny escape ship with no plan and hope I survive and find out what happened"||
meh i read resume and i think i prefer the actual one
||except that i want to know more about the architects and the ending pointed we will know more next time but then sub 2 isnt about them :c (maybe yes?)||
Maybe in 2154 BZ2 will come out
thats the actual name of the new planet?
So they wanted to make it different, but people complained so they didn't?
Well, people thought it was repetitive and annoying, and didn't capture the feel of the first game.
I think "simple[r]" is accurate compared to the old story, I feel like the only suspense in the current story is "what happened to my sister" and there were multiple moments in the previous one
The current story has significantly less action.
BZ had a very difficult development. I think the players should've trusted the process.
Hopefully SN2 will not get the same fate. It's not easy to make a game when the community wants a different one. If the devs stick to their vision of the game, I think it has potential to be really really great. Rewrites aren't nice.
yeah
bz isnt that bad anyway, the bar was high to match but in its own is a very good game
Below Zero is definitely a great game. Not 10/10, but close. I personally like it more than SN, despite its flaws.
it definitely have some points superior to subnautica like the music, the aesthetics, some improvements in building
the story and the map are the 2 bigs downgrades from subnautica
imo ofc
Important to remember that SN has many flaws too, they just get easily covered up by nostalgia.
This is my list of things I enjoyed most in BZ (forgot to include OST, Ben Prunty is soooo good)
I don't think I ever really had a problem with any of SN other than bugs that caused FPS to be measured in seconds per frame instead of frames per second
Maybe they're nitpicks, but the more I think about things, the less sense they make.
And the unfinished features 💔
OST is real
Simon set the bar and Ben matched it or went above it
Ben did such a great job
Actually almost reminds me of Ghostrunner now that I hear it again
Simon's BZ was really disappointing
Really redid SN but with higher pitch + reverb to sound cold.
I don't know, have you visited all the facilities in the map?
lol for you map was improvement xD it shows how subjetive things are
Also, read Alterra PDA logs, they have hints
Uh idk the woman that is from the ||deggasi||
Is this even his or are they just crediting him as the orignal creator of the SN theme?
No, he worked for BZ's OST before getting fired
Assuming you mean the Unnofficial Soundtrack
You can listen to the unreleased OST
Unreleased?
Is that the word?
I dunno, it's the one with the twisty bridges background
That one
It seems more like he's just credited, especially since he's only on one of the songs
He got fired in early 2018
my main problem with BZ is that there is no 
You call that a problem?
Map is too small
yeah
yes
So where do I look?
I love the cyclops so much
I'm glad it doesn't have the Cyclops, It'd be horrible.
I don't think people would complain as much about the Cyclops not being in the game if the Sea Truck modules were better.
Visit all the facilities in the map you scanned in Delta Station.
Oh I was supposed to do that?
I would have loved for the seatruck to not just be the seamoth with only lengthwise extentions
if seatruck would have some kind of "blank" module able to be builded it would have been cheffkiss
Dont get me wrong I like the building aspect of it but I really dont like how limited it is and how you cant build in it
It isn’t even the seamoth it’s just an downgrade
Sure, but people have to understand that the Cyclops would not work properly.
yeah sadly
Yes I'm aware of that lol wasn't the point I was making/addressing.
With the map size yeah, but the Seatruck is kind of just dissapointing
I don’t mind the sea truck tbh it’s bad but it’s better than nothing
I found the truck fun.
The idea is cool, but I don't think it was executed as well as it could have been
Id love a much bigger map and a cyclops or at least something similar or bigger than it
Atlas sub when
I like it, but I refuse to play BZ without the inventory mod so I can tweak the values of the lockers.
lol
Its a mobile base and doesnt turn into a snail when you put stuff in it (cough cough seatruck)
Yeah the speed penalty is brutal. I hate that too.
Well, clearly BZ was going in a different direction that did not require the Cyclops. People hated it, so they tried something different, easier to use.
It would be fun to have something like the Cyclops with an actual two or three person requirement in the next game
But as soon as it gets taken away, people suddenly love the Cyclops and want it out of nowhere.
People hated the Cyclops?
have an option for that would be nice, but also have single person crew option
In #subnautica-chat, people insult the Cyclops every day because it's too big.
ngl that is a skill issue
||im sure of the 3, cyclops its the less used and liked, but idk if hated||
I personally loved my cyclops and genuinely cried when my first one died
Ikr, but still, the community is a bit bipolar when it comes to things like this.
It is a giant sub that the game literally tells you "three people recommended but you'll have to make do without"
Fr though, the cyclops is literally all pluses if you use it properly
My order of vehicles are
1.Cyclops
2.PRAWN
3.Seamoth
9.Seatruck
Losing a Cyclops on accident is quite the feat.
It was literally because my laptop was slow and something loaded into it and glitched it to death
I learned my lesson
And idk abt you, but ppl complain abt it using too much power and i rlly don’t know how that is, like do they just keep shield gen on permanently? 🤷♂️
I genuinely tried in creative to see the cyclops destroy thing and while trying to die to a reaper I on complete accident killed the reaper
The most hate I've ever seen for it is the crappy locker sizes, which I agree with and use a mod to fix
It really doesnt need that much power, I really never used the sheild nor the decoys. I beat the game just fine
The lockers are annoying, true
Though you can put your own lockers inside the cyclops
Laughs in Cyclops nuclear reactor mod
That was fun, it just makes you un-killable
I love how spacious and customizale the inside was of the cyclops
Exactly but it’s like famous for using too much power, like idk if ppl just never realized that silent running uses power or the other upgrades do too
The Snowfox is my favorite vehicle. I may be insane, but I may also be a misunderstood genius.
Ikr
The problem is not the Snowfox, it's the Ice Worm triggering dismount when in the general area. Fix the worm, not the fox.
I only had to keep my thing on slow speed of which I really got used to and dont notice much difference from standard and I only got attacked once by a leviathan and I easily escaped by turning off my engine
Eh not rlly, I was pretty good at cyclops driving, but the snow fox was just too klunky, like I would think a hoverbike would be easier to maneuver
ah yes
It is really easy to maneuver, it's just in a different way than you would expect. Took a bit to get used to, but once I did, I started taking it everywhere.
The snowfox has some weird controls, like you can look around but it feels like i have to swipe my mouse 15 times just to look 1 degree to the left
The snow fox was just painful to drive and I ended up just taking my prawn instead
yeah
It's unusual for sure.
What would be cool in the next game would be some kind of cyclops docking bay or other big vehicle docking bay
with custom insides
Idk if it’s different on pc, but I’m a Xbox player so maybe that has smth to do with it
I play on PS4, it's similar to XBox
Oh ok idk then
on pc trying to pilot the snowfox is living hell
It's been a while since I used it, but iirc it felt "too light" on KBM
Which sounds crazy since it's a hover bike, but it doesn't seem right
It takes a bit to get used to the controls.
very tragic
the cyclops is the best in the game
we all know its the prawn suit that deserves the hate frfr
The cyclops makes things so much easier
now that is controversial
I think it's the Neptune. Can't even go underwater with it, like what's the point then???
💀
At least the Snowfox is fast
dont get why it needs lockers in the neptune
Immersion, and they look cool
||cuddlefishes|| ofc
i mean it isnt bad its just like the worst comparatively
the seamoth and cyclops are just better frfr
seamoth is below prawn
and then you get to bz and get seatruck which is uh idk the only choice so 👍 and snowfox which funny #subnautica-modding snowfox going over water is silly
I genuinely stopped enjoying the Prawn lately. Got tired of it, I guess. It's annoying to drive, I only use it for the Propulsion Cannon Arm.
Prawn can go much deeper, makes collection of resources so much easier, and goes hand in hand with the cyclops
||but it doesnt have sonar and perimeter defense||
I love the ||drill arms|| they made things so much easier istg
universal (relatively) fast ship > ghook go brr and can't go up well
i hate to say it
It makes up for perimeter defense with its arm customization and if you need sonar thats kinda sad
Drills are awful, the noise is engraved in my head, and they take so long. I now go to the Aurora in SN for titanium, and in BZ to Arctic Spires for pretty much everything.
whats wrong with cool views smh....
The collection throughout biomes was what makes the game fun, you find new places, and that progresses the game without you really trying
You discover new areas and new lore stuff looking for resources
sorry for being sad then? 🤣 ||sonar is by far my fav upgrade yes (both seamoth and cyclops)||
~~i play creative mode 👍 ~~
I don't know how the leviathan ""slayers"" handle it. The noise scares me, at this point.
Sonar is cool dont get me wrong its just not something thats a factor in if I like it or not
yeh dnt like it is good, calling "need it is sad" is mmmmmm why
Me giving the ||dragon leviathan||'s corpse a wee old kiss after i drill armed it to death
I really don't want to change the stock powercells, ever.
Yuck.
Im ||Margreit||
You do know that the drill has like half the dps of the claw, right?
20 vs 40
It makes me feel cooler
She's not a good character, you know?
28 vs 50 or something
getting two drill arms just feels like you are god
She's evil in BZ, and morally questionable in SN.
||Killing a reaper?||
Are gods really that immobile?
ehh
Also wdym evil?
She is.
no grappling hook on a prawn suit....
yeah, 28 drill and 50 default
dont you have any morals?
how can you sleep at night when you use something other than double grappling hook
In SN ||She tried to figure out what was goin on and helped out bart (despite how crazy she was) do research.|| so I dont think its THAT bad
very well
two grappling arms is redundant
||She gave unstable explosives to Sam. And not because of the cause, she only wanted anarchy against Alterra. She also very willingly blew up the labs' nuclear reactor with no care for whoever was inside||
ok but fun and what else are you gonna do
claw? im like the only one who likes killing leviathans
drill? whatever
torpedo? honestly not that uncool but i never get a use for it
I would say she was confident more than anything
yeah
The Reaper was not to help Bart, it was to show off her hunting skills. Bart wanted live fish. She kept destabilizing the crew and eventually got them all killed.
womp womp
Still did some stuff to help and went out and fetched at least something also crazy spoiler not in spoiler hmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhmhm
||The Torgals wouldn't have survived as long as they had without her, partially because Paul was a moron||
It's SN content.
If she didn't indirectly murder them, and tried to cooperate, maybe they could've done what Ryley did. Paul was going to die of old age anyway.
||Paul was a major reason they werent the ones who survived||
Paul was unhelpful. Maida was careless. Both are to blame, for different things.
fair enough
Bart was trying really hard to make Maida's careless efforts worth something.
He convinced Paul to move to the Grand Reef.
||while yes the second reaper went after her and its dead mate, its circunstancial, they could have been killed simply while gathering a titanium, same as how all the auroras died, it wasnt maida killing them||
||Other than the Warpers and stupid zappy zappy squids, I think it's fine, ghosties are frens||
I never had a problem with warpers
She was careless. The reaper she brought was unnecessary and unasked for. Even Paul was aware of the danger, and he's usually clueless.
Like ive not ONCE had a warper try to attack me
though I usually moved too fast for them to try anything
still they werent that bad
i dont think even the most maida fan would say she was carefull
She indirectly killed the Torgals, and then ||indirectly killed Sam and Parvan.|| She keeps being reckless for the sake of anarchy, and cares only about herself. She even thought about looting the growbeds and leave the Torgals to die, but decided to instead make them build the DRG base. ||And withholds information from Robin, only handing it out if she does her work.|| At first, she's badass, but it in hindsight, she's just evil.
Bart survived though and died to Kharra
I dont know why they thought the grand reef was a good idea that place sucks
Resources and probably that it was relatively close
Because they found alien stuff down there.
that too
||they probably were after going deep, wich means lost river||
They were studying the tablet at the time of the attack.
Although Bart's later base (after Paul died and Marge "died") was in a version of the safe shallows
every new person ive seen has almost quit the game because of that stupidly hard to navigate area
wasnt that one in the trailer?
Yeah, crushed by the Aurora
yeah idk what happened to that base in the safe shallows? its in one trailer why not ingame?
oh that makes sense
maybe burried
yeah crash site could perfectly be safe shallows before
He could've probably found the cure. He had very little progress on the infection study because Maida would not stop mutilating every fish beyond recognition, and when he got the "hallucinations" he was depressed and hopeless.
Teamwork is important.
I mean if you knew you were sick and randomly started getting "hallucinations" giving very vague messages that you comprehend as something about saving you, wouldn't you also think they were hallucinations?
Riley comes in from the swim team to solo 4546b
yeah there isnt much teamwork with riley
everyone else died so not much of a choice
Makes me wonder what Coop will be like in SN2
He didn't have anyone in his way. Can't say the same about Bart.
Watch subnautica 2 be Bart somehow surviving the disease like maida somehow did
Look at this guys!!!! He didn't actually die to the virus and get crushed by the giant space ship!!! We don't know how this happened!!!
you just hate maida xD
wich is fair ofc she is as lovable as hateable (?
If Paul dropped his leadership complex, and Maida stopped being mindlessly anarchic and reckless, maybe the whole story would had gone sooo nice.
yeah
SN2 being the universe where Bart either gets out of there or they get it together
yeah but then some random peeps in earth wouldnt have a game so im glad they didnt
Maida apologists forgiving conspiring murder because she looks cool and beats up fish..
Am I the only one that looks up at the very close moon and thinks how devastating it would be if it was real
The seas would be wild.
I mean the moon is always in the sky which is kind of odd I think
Might be why tides aint that bad
Both moons. There are two.
YEah
what the heck is an orbit 🔥
Odd how you can see both from Sector Zero
There is possibly someway to make it work but its some weird orbit
yeah im sure we had this talk some days ago and i think i said to you the only thing maida have is that she is badass an that attracts people.
but at the same time seasons go wild
I don't remember it, but it's likely.
i do because i think of you about maida, the same way i feel myself about the brotherhood in fo4
we are just against the currents
I wouldnt be suprised if bart found SOME way to survive since we never got any confirmation of his death nor a corpse so he could have just plot armored the Karaah like maida
I hate the brotherhood too, Maida makes me think of them.
Brotherhood of Darkness???
ups
oh wait, not SW
Man avery quinn was a real one
OHHH MY EYES
what GPU?
I feel like the progression in BZ is much harder and stranger than in base game
Its hard to find fragments since most of them are seaglide fragments everywhere and its hard to get anything to get down to the helpful stuff
Its not even a spoiler there are waaayyy too many seaglides everywhere
that's a sign you need to move away from north twisty
Thats literally everywhere I go
also I dont got no habitat builder and its really unclear where I need to go
120m deep in the canyon, a little south. In a small building
||in the antena island there are builders too wich is preatty easy to find early even if you dont know what are you looking for||
I also cant find the rebreather or nothin either
I dont know where to get the habitat builder
Explore twisty bridges more
There’s one place that has a crane, and one place has just an I tube (base piece, be sure you scan the window). Both have databoxes. I always forget which is which, but together you will come out with the high capacity tank BP and the rebreather BP. The I tube has a habitat builder you can scan inside it iirc
That’s what meatie was alluding to
The small building (the I tube)
||How do I get past the snow stalker in the deggasi woman’s base?||
You don’t until you do something else in the game
||Is there like a map I can scan or something?||
Doesn’t she ask for your help with something?
Two maps, one in delta station and other in phi robotics (but not related to the door you want to get through now)
||The tower thing but I don’t know how to get the materials||
Thanks
You should look for some wrecks
Then you need to explore...scan the thing on her table
There is a big one called the mercury
I did
Maybe explore the Mercury
And did you notice the seatruck upgrade module on the floor? It's easy to miss and very helpful
I got it
Is there like anything I should be worried out in the mercury
Not in, but maybe around...
Have your laser cutter. Mind your oxygen (remember where there are oxygen plants)
I need one?
What’s the things around it?
Some doors can only be accessed with a cutter
Are those doors useful? Do they contain what I need
I think you need them to get full access, but it’s been awhile since I’ve gone through all the wreckage
Ok I will update
||I got some useful stuff but how do I get the parallel battery?||
Uhh what’s it look like
Oh that’s right, you need the cutter for the PPU, some of them anyway
They’re in different sorts of places, walls or on the sides of things, just keep a look out for stuff you can scan or says to cut (I’m guessing it has some pop up label for the Parallel Processing Unit when you look at them)
There’s only so many things you can interact with
You’ll know it when you see one
Do I need the cutter?
Like is it enough?
I don’t remember how many have covers. There’s 3 sections of wreckage. The largest portion of wreck I believe has 3 in it, which is the bow I believe, the next smallest has 2 PPUs, and the smallest section which I think is just the thrusters only has one PPU in it to scan
The laser cutter however is basic exploratory gear, you should consider it part of your essential game equipment
It was pretty easy to find in the initial area, twisty bridges (seabed) but if not there, then in the sea monkey caves in the kelp areas
There are usually some laser cutter fragments inside the wrecks as well
I found it I just need diamonds
I was just about to get the third piece when a shark destroyed my ship
DAMN cookie bad luck there


Not rlly, I find that it’s not rlly as helpful in bz than in the base game, like for the essential pieces of mercury, you don’t need it, it just makes it easier
hey guys what is your source of energy?? mine are penglins
You're a monster
At least it's not babys!
:)
Right???
Oh right
and you cant pick up parents
If they grow into pengwings in containment, you can pick them up there
ik
Never tested if they grow in there
They grow, yes.
Hello everyone, I was asking myself if there was a way to enter on the second room of the ||| koopa site (behind the door you can see a second room, even with the sonar you can see that there actually is a real room||| does anyone already gone there?
It's a fake room.
You can't get there, only if you noclip. There aren't resources there, and the room is small.
Oh pretty sad 🥲
I think it's a reference to that door in the Aurora Prawn Bay.
Both make us feel like there's a whole room behind them, and then they're not even interactable.
You should have a laser cutter tbh, there’s really no reason not to have one
At least imo
There’s more places to use them than just wrecks as well
xD I litteraly took 3h to build a stair with box to go to this place
That's truly an ice cold statement 😔
It's okay to not like it but calling it a terrible game is objectively wrong.
Why do you think it's not a good game?
i would also agree here with tuna here its descent game still lacking in alot of things but then that is what happens when u dont have a proper buget for the game
BZ story is gold
i really like al-en and how we search for sam
altho prawn suit has something like speed module when you press shift and makes you faster, and if you have the grappling arm
The games are quite different in some key aspects, but I don’t think that makes BZ bad. Game devs want to try different things, which of course some people will like those things, and some will not. Some don’t like the smaller map, but that had to do with the game starting out as DLC and it grew to be more than that, but was not planned to be a full Subnautica-sized experience (which is why it’s not Subnautica 2, but considered more like 1.5).
There are some legitimate things people do complain about, such as issues with the story. Some stuff, like folks who want the cyclops in BZ, well it just wouldn’t fit😅 There will always be people who don’t like games for whatever reason, which of course that’s fine, not every game will be to everyone’s liking.
Having opinions about games, same as anything else, is fine. Just remember they’re subjective, not statement of facts. Not liking something about a game, doesn’t mean a game is necessarily bad (an objective statement). So you could say stuff like you thought it wasn’t good, or felt like the story wasn’t good, or you found it wasn’t nearly as enjoyable as the first one, if you get what I’m saying🙂 These are opinion statements where you’re not trying to make factual statements about the game.
In other words it how you phrase it
Although I’d disagree with the seatruck being unimaginative, it grew on me and I think it fits very well with the map size and gameplay (but again, everyone can have their opinion, just like how I’ll never be a prawn fan lol😂)
Enjoy your “tome” xD
indeed true
W or L early base?
its how u see ur home Spork make it the way u want it to look like and to expand when u can. only you can love ur home truely
L early base, it needs more storage
good motivation
Not nearly enough plants/chairs.
ok
More partitions would add to it as well, I think.
I am a storage fiend
If I run out of empty lockers I will immediately throw the scanner room into titanium mode and go ham until my inventory is full
To make like 5 more lockers
I usually have a locker full of live fish all the time for some reason.
Also is it just me or do the multipurpose/big rooms without glass roofs feel just as cramped as making a Minecraft base with a two block high ceiling
I just feel like there's always too much empty space
I definitely don't think so; I agree more with Atlas.
Maybe I have claustrophobia
Twisty bridges
ayyy
🧊
best starter area
arctic
yes
🟣
🐍
Kelp forest caves
nope
Deep twisty bridges?
Purple vents
yup
Ohhhh
⏬

||fabricator caverns||
yes 
WW
Glacier forest
no
I havent played below zero enough 💀
Thermal spires?!
nope
bro its genuinely so good, people criticize it cuz the first game was perfect
Bit of a rough guess but Vent gardens?
CLOSEE
those are fauna tho
its kinda scary how ghost leviathans are only 2 meters shorter
Tree spires
yup
yipee 
The place with the ice worm but i have no idea what it called 💀
Gonna guess ice spires or something lol
Glacier basin
ill take it, but i want the actual name
dang that was close
𝓓𝓮𝓮𝓹 glacier basin
nooo silly boy
Arctic spires
yup
Theres a lot of spires in this game
fr
They love their spires
🔊 🌡️
Thermal spires
yup
Goofy ahh loud cryposuchus
⛏️ ⏬ 🪨 👊
RAAAHHH
Mining site
Only cause i googled it 💀
LOL
Koppa Mining Site
No its 𝓓𝓮𝓮𝓹 Mining site ofc
oh yeah
Deep kelp forest
nope
kelp forest caves
no
Ahhh the jaundice caves

huh
ur talking abt the one i think ur talking abt right
the funny plant area?
Where the water is orange?
uh huh
Yeah
u got it
I KNOW it's kelp caves dangit
oh...
Too be fair look at the kelp caves lol
to plant, obviously
more of a green tint
plus it isnt deep
Mmm... 𝓓𝓮𝓮𝓹
I really gotta play below zero after i beat subnautica
yeah
u gotta stream me below zero
i watched my friend play through the entire game
approximately an entire day of watching
I was over halfway done with Below-Zero before it was taken off gamepass bc I'm a dirty console player
through the span of a few weeks that is
WHY
i thought only the 1st one was taken off
I just needed the last ||precursor part|| and I would be done 😭
Sparse arctic?
no
Glacier connection
no
east arctic
yup

AAH
the ||chelicerate|| ready to eat my seatruck when im going for ||artifact PK8||
||deep twisty bridges||
👍
yknow its inda wild how bz has smaller map but more biomes
I'm going sleepy gn
good night
Me as well
night night
goodnight(mareknight)
I'm finally replaying BZ and Im now making my 3rd scanner because of these dang sea monkeys
on PC, quickly press E to hide your tool. console: at least switch away from seaglide
I'm on Switch
with the glide you are much faster than them
I know I haven't gotten it yet
i just grab mine back
i had fins no seaglide and i could jsut grab it back
why did they change the name of shale and sand chunks
they also changed contents. Always one resource or titanium. Scan them!
Well once ||Al-an|| is with you the monkies don’t take your stuff
id let them take some stuff
hold out some snacks
sea truck have like sonar upgrede upgredes?
No
I almost lose my prawn suit on a part with land

I'm thinking about buying the game soon, but I need to know something
Is BZ a prequel or a sequel
Sequel
Not actually a sequel, more like spinoff
Honestly I would prefer if below zero was labeled as dlc (it would avoid a lot of confusion rn)
That would cause even more confusion.
It is not a DLC.
Well, below zero is an DLC level game released as standalone.
What..???
I think it counts as a sequel because while it doesn't exactly pick up where Subnautica left off it still furthers the story
The Subnautica series feels as if it is more about 4546B itself.
It's not just about Ryley or Robin
I think that the Subnautica series will follow Alterra, and BZ was just its own thing.
my brother just got attacked by a three of the things in the void that is crazy
It doesn’t further the story in any way besides being more specific on stuff. There’s no crazy new thing that we discover, it’s just more in depth on things that already existed
Hi
||What do I do after taking to Marguerite in her green house and picking up the pad ||
I mean I feel like adding a whole new area and lore, essentially doubling the amount of content in the series counts as at LEAST a spinoff, not a DLC
Could you help?
Not to mention the 2 new base pieces and an entirely new vehicle that combines the all in one nature of the cyclops and the compactness of the seamoth
Could someone help
Like how it compacts the map into essentially a linear game with no replay value
I believe that's the end of her questline. Check your Databank for info on where you should go next.
Thank you 🙏
It’s not a bad game at all, I’m just saying it doesn’t add as much stuff compared to the first game, definitely perfect for a DLC. They even call what should be Subnautica 3 Subnautica 2…
It's still not a DLC
I agree, there is absolutely NOWHERE interesting to go except the next marked location
But I wasn't saying that there was
I'm sayin it's not a DLC
I concurr you are correct
They even call what should be Subnautica 3 Subnautica 2…
Imagine saying the devs are wrong about their own games lol
Moving on to something else, I'm getting real tired of people thinking the next Subnautica game will just be called "Subnautica 3"
It's gonna be "Subnautica: Into The Void" or smthn
Yeah true, but logically it would be Subnautica 3, their choice ofc
Just because what the devs decide doesn't line up with what you want? That's not how it works dude.
What.
"Logically" i.e. according to you, not them.
@steel shoal did you find any commands to allow you to finish the story in the last original story build?
BZ is more of an expansion for SN than a sequel
or a spin off
Exactly! #below-zero-chat message
I think spin-off would make more sense
Yep. Like Fallout New Vegas.
Well yeah especially now
DLC and expansion in games imply that it's part of the original game somehow
Hey @safe sun, do you know of any way that you can see the end of the original story?
Well uhm technically sector zero is shown at the end so uhm
I don't think you can.
Andy said she thought there was a command for it or something, but I don't think there is
dang
It would be nice if a script was released or something
killed one 🙂
I have never killed a leviathan in BZ.. maybe because they pose no threat
He almost destroyed my prawn suit
They don't in normal SN either, unless you add mods that make them more aggressive
With a seatruck
ok
No, that's just a skill issue
I've gone past the ghost in the BK many times in my Cyclops and it did not care
Bro this dog is 🔥
why do torpedo arms look like double barrel shotguns
You can also avoid the reapers in the Dunes easily
I've parked my Cyclops there and moved around in it and they did not care
With a cyclops or with prawn?
yes
Yeah cuz it only detects moving threats or threats that makes noise
I mean moved in the Cyclops
(Engines makes noise)
should I go?
meh, they're kind of dumb and move slow, just dodge the mouth
in this
oh
Hm, I was wrong, sorry.
grapple arm though, so I don't see why it would be a problem
Gave me hope 😅
Maybe one day they'll release it and someone will turn it into a mod, although that sounds like a RoTA level task
Rota 😟
Hi Andy just wondering but where do I go after going to|| marguerites green house? ||
Bruh Rota (to our knowledge) has added like 1 morbillion items and thingies, i think it’s a lower task than that (maybe harder but shorter)
Could anyone help?
I literally answered this already
I looked but there was nothing but a ||antidote but I don’t think I’m supposed to go there||
Why not?
Bruh. Yes. lol go
Ty 
Where I find the alien containment unit?
like fragments?
||degasi seabases||
oh wait
forget everything i said
i thought this was subnautica chat not subnautica below zero
wtf happened to my screen

So I hope I don't parade on anything but concerning the story I don't know whether or not to do Delta first or Alan (I don't think it's worth putting the | annotations) as from what I understand you go to the emergency beacon, discover the huge caves, obviously use the seaglide to go to the little chamber and find the Alien Artefact. This allows you to pinpoint the location which is always below the level of seatruck resistance. Does Delta Island have a ||Modification Table|| and if so do I go Delta then Alan?
Scarier definitely goes to Subnautica but what’s better in general I’d say they are equal, but I have a slight preference over Subnautica for it’s non linearity from early to mid game.
Pretty difficult question-
Subnautica’s map is huge and has a lot more biomes that are fun to explore itself and fauna with flora, on the other hand, Subnautica BZ’s map is pretty small compared to first part, and not that much of a biomes, i mean- there are a lot of different biomes underground but meh- i’d say i prefer subnautica BZ in first question cuz it looks so beautiful just either walking around on icebergs and swim underwater.
The second question is easier than the previous one cuz it’s easily Subnautica due to very, and i mean it, deep biomes that occasionally can surprise you with either something cute (for example: Reginald), or terrifying (Reapers obv). Subbautuca’s world, as i stated earlier, is huge as hell and scares a lot of people with depth and carnivores that are living in the depth, but as you go deeper, you just understand what’s where located and you just get over that scare-
So yeah, that’s my opinion on this
God damn
Why can't I find alien containment unit?
Mercury2 bow section, in lilypad islands near border with tree spires
Ah
i dont think this is enough i definitely need more
Below zero is better, but the og is scarier
Subnautica
The original as a better story but below zero as better every thing else in my opinion
someone have information how to install "Built in seatruck"?
you guys now how to play in multi in below yero or maybe subnautica?
Mods
Yeah, the story is a bit confusing in bz
Is bz worth getting
Yes
Kinda forgot they made the seaglide a 2×2 item instead of 2×3.
Sometimes I wish they backported that change to SN.
Same, but the opposite
I forget SN's Seaglide is bigger. This is because I don't have one.
BZ is just flawed, I think if they made it a complete DC and you was able to get to it from the first subnautica game that would have been awesome. But at the end of the day Subnautica is just a complete experience for me.
BZ is not SN. You wanted SN again, and got a story focused game with dialogue between the protagonist and other characters. Doesn't really seem fair to compare two games from different genres, that try to achieve different things.
You're right though, BZ has problems, but doesn't everything have them? Well, except for me. But SN wasn't perfect either. Have you noticed how the Dragon has different skeletons in each PDA entry?
I understand. I'm not 100% sure what it is but the game just feels different for me. A guy in a youtube video said if BZ came out first it would have probably been fine. This is all mine and one other person's opinion and yes I was looking for somthing like the first but I'm not sure how it would look. 🙂
hi people, I got a question, is it like in the original game, where you couldn’t get a rebreather until you get an ultra high capacity oxygen tank, or do you get the rebreather another way? I’ve just came back to the game and I just want to know
Yea, the game is very different, but on purpose. I think part of the hate comes from the false expectations. Very rarely I see people talking about the actual problems, most get stuck on "SN was different".
It's a databox, you need to find it.
ah, okay
If you want a hint ||it's on a foundation, in a deeper part of Twisty Bridges||
ah, I think I know where you’re referring to, is it near the ||abandoned pipe thing||?
Yes, near that, kinda.
further down?
In the original game you need to craft the high capacity tank, not the ultra high capacity tank.
oh
how many of yalls actually use grav traps? I’ve never seen anyone use them and I feel like they’re highly underrated
Never felt the need, personally.
they are heavily underrated in early game, especially when you’re struggling for food and water, when you’re in mid game or late-mid game, they’re not as useful but I do still use them at times
I wasn’t encountering that many seaglide fragments but now I dont need them they’re absolutely everywhere and there are no seatruck fragments
it’s almost as if it’s hardcoded in the game
vegetarian diet fr
For vegan diet, try the shrooms near the lifepod, give more food than creepvine. Creepvine seeds work for early water source though (and they don't rot)
anyone got any idea where to find the old base for margurite? (however her name is spelt)
Marguerite. I don't know which one you're talking about.
She has ||the base she lives in lilypad islands, the greenhouse on iceberg. Not really a base, but a cave from her base leads to thermal plant station||
the one in the lilypads
Go to pilot's last known location marker||, dive in the cave with light-glowing plants on the wall, follow them and light sticks to 360m depth||
There's another way. ||Find the Ventgardens, enter the cave under the one closer to the Lilypads. Follow the thermal plants and power transmitters to it.||
I like the fact y'all just doin ||this||
ughhh why can’t ||marguerit just give you a laser cutter…||
Maybe she suspects you already have one. Those monkeys in the Kelp Forest might know a bit or two about laser cutters.
I now have to go out and get TWO fragments
and ontop of that, by this point in my playthrough, I had a seatruck, but no, because those damn seaglider fragments are taking up so much space
well… that was before my seatruck was crushed under the pressure in my other playthrough so I had to go out and get ANOTHER seatruck
They don't take the place of the Seatruck fragments though.
It reads like that's what you're saying.
Starting my BZ hardcore world (:
Why hardcore? Use custom mode and make the game actually harder
lul
how do I get the coffee machine to work?
Build it, insert thermos in it.
Never played Hardcore before, I was gunna do that before anything more
Besides, I want a fun challenge, nothing absurd
is there any use for the rebreather? it doesn't do anything for me
Can you hold out a fish for carnivores I'm subzero?
yes. Not sure how useful it is
Was passing by a knock off reaper and got hurt and was wondering
In theory, while equipped, it must help you in below 100m depths, it helps with oxygen.
How do you play through the game without it
we have not found a way
For now the Void Chelicerate does not have a D-bug id so its not possible to spawn it right now
Unknown worlds may be working on that
They're working on the new game, pretty sure.
I do hope they add it soon
Or maybe they're sleeping. Depends on the person you ask.
I don't think it's important.
There are other more important things to deal with. Such as Snowfox clipping through the floor.
There are quite a few high priority bugs yet to be fixed. Yet they fixed the NoRecipesAvalible
On the other hand I pass by a chelicerate saying "good day sir"
nah bro,
I do the same with a sea dragon 
Red shrimp
Sorry, the shrimp nickname is already reserved for Rock Puncher.
When im in creative i still find all the leviathans except for dragon, sea treader, and reefback scary for some reason
I guess rock puncher does look more like a shrimp
I call them all puppies
Chelis seem to be taking a similar role to the Ghost Leviathan
Trueee
They're only in a few points of interest, and they're easily avoidable. They're also not that intimidating or aggressive, they're just pretty and minding their own business.
bro
jus chillin
he floating
😂
Free home delivery
this one is sick
Bro vibin
That never happened to me... what exactly causes it?
I’ve gotten my snowfox stuck at the bottom of a crevasse before and not been able to get it out, but I don’t think it’s ever clipped into terrain before. Doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened for someone though
Is it weird to anyone else that the snowfox can actually move on the water but its just really slow?
It shouldn’t be able to go over water that I recall
It bobbs up and down but still allows (VERY SLOW) movement in all directions.
Interesting
nvm I thought it gave me extra oxygen, didn't know it regarded oxygen efficiency.
Deploying it when walking/looking down.
Oh... note to self.
Not necessarily straight down, though.
You have to be very careful when deploying it, and pick it up before it gets lost to terrain. Many people get very upset.
The charging pads are decently cheap so after a while I just started using those.
Thanks for the warning though!
Once I deployed it too quickly and boarded it. Fell through the map with it. Glad they fixed the void Chelicerates spawning under land parts bug.
where to find kyanite, I know where to get rubies, is it in the cave that leads down to the ||purple crystals biome from the ruby spikes biome that is where one of the architect piece is, close to margurite’s base?||
In the ||Crystal Cave|| you have some yes.
Snowfox can take u to backrooms
How ready do I have to be before I go to the ||Architect Phase Gate Facilty||?
Like, is that ||The end of the game||?
||yup, that’s the end of the game, wouldn’t recommend going there unless you have all the materials for each architect part and/or are ready to complete the game||
Hello -Hoopfish
Hello 🙂
The last update was the "What the dock" one https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/848450/view/3276953770293551410?l=english
A new update is available for Subnautica: Below Zero. Tailor your Below Zero experience with Custom Game Mode Utilize an all-new Seatruck Dock base piece Enjoy the most stable version of the game with tons of bugs squashed Get yourself out of some sticky out-of-bounds situations with an Unstuck Button Steam Cloud saves are back (yes, for real th...
So not in the last or current year.
||I have already built the architect body||
||okay then, it depends if you’re ready to finish the game or not, are you?||
||nope I'm just focusing on upgrading my base & vehicles rn||
Yea it's not like in og subjects where first upgrade gives you i think 500m
Nope, seamoth is basic 200m and with mk1 depth 300m. The difference is that basic seatruck is only 150m

best area to build a base in?
Hence I said I think as in i wasn't sure since I have not played in a long time
i just do it in the default area (twisty bridges or whatever but semi near pod) because i cant be bothered to move and it has space
im sure there could be more scenic areas i just dont bother to find em
i always build mine right next to the pod
same
I’ve been playing BZ again to get the trophies on the PS5 version because apparently the trophies don’t cross populate between PS4 and PS5 (idk if that’s normal or not
) and I saw there was an update, a very small one (really a hotfix not an update), but thought I’d let you know @deep kettle 🙂
But you’re still right, it wasn’t in the last or current year😂
That's normal for everyone but idk why they don't transfer
Seems odd
As it’s the same platform
I’ll have to look next time I’m on my series X, I don’t recall having to get achievements on there that I’ve had from Xbox One
I purposefully left the hotfix out of that but you are correct. It was released shortly after the 'what the dock' update 😛
Fair enough😅
what is horsepower?
Think of it power
Back when carriages were drawn they used horses. So power was literally horsepower. When they started making first cars and stuff, they referred to engine power as horsepower because that made sense to people
So there you go😅
But yes it’s just a unit of power, to make something go, it’s often used to describe the power of a car engine (the more horsepower the faster it can go)
HP upgrade for seatruck is definitely worth getting
I always thought horsepower was how many horses it would take to reach that speed
No, it's approximately how many horses you need to get the same power
it… basically is
Horses still have max speed, which they cannot exceed regardless of how many of them you have...
so do cars and vehicles
1 hp is the power a regular horse can pull indefinitely, without exhausting itself
if it wants to, it can give 5hp for a little bit
i meant the upgrade
but thanks for the info
I think it has some text on it that says what it does, but it increases seatruck speed when hauling extra modules
alr
Meatie made this chart
im scared of modules
coz i always crash into things and a module is just gonna increase my hitbox
it changes blue curve to red curve
and like my first ever module it breaks at the touch
