below-zero-chat

[spice loom]

Took me 18 hours and 21 minutes to 100% it

[eternal garnet]

Did you use the start parameter
-force-glcore

[rapid holly]

We have a gaming PC in the house (also a switch, thank you). Those run just fine. But since SBZ is one of the few good games left for OSX that glitch is still sad.

[eternal garnet]

The start parameter switches graphics driver, and helps many Mac users

[rapid holly]

The noe 10 year old and I have spent about 140 hours in there since The first early access on Steam came out. 😁

[rapid holly]

Thanks for the hint. I am not sure at this point. I will look onto it.

[eternal garnet]

picture: #below-zero-chat message

of where to put it

[spice loom]

How does it run on Switch?

I have a few games for Switch and they do not run the best, even poly games are buggy at times.

[eternal garnet]

I hear different things, from good to bad. Save often

[spice loom]

Slime Rancher is even buggy on it, which is like how. lol

[eternal garnet]

The slime gets in the fan

[rapid holly]

No issues up to now. It is seldom played since the gam8ng PC is in the house, though. 😁

[spice loom]

frfr

(honestly though my 2017 switch sounds like a jet)

Damn, I was nine when the switch came out

[rapid holly]

I can't say we had any issues with any game on our switch, an early 2020 bought model. I can't remeber any crashes whatsoever. Not subnautica, nor anything else.

[spice loom]

It is not great at handling anything other Nintendo Games or games with the graphic quality of that of the Gamecube

[rapid holly]

Seriously the only issue by now is we run through controllers really quickly. Even with the use of repair kits.

Anyhow. Thanks for the hint. I will lookinto that and i necessary fix that later.

[spice loom]

Do you get the problem with them not clicking when pushing the joysticks down?

[broken badge]

It’s actually very pretty on the switch, since it’s well optimized (imo) but you should save often since there could be crashes. But I mean that’s good advice on any platform tbh

[icy lily]

How do I get to alien distress call origin

The first one If there are any others

[eternal garnet]

in the canyon in twisty bridges, south half, ||there's some blinky lights at 180m, and a side tunnel with more blinky lights. go in there||

[icy lily]

Ok thanks

[eternal garnet]

You might eventually get 2 of these beacons. This is a bug

[left marsh]

Was this preaent in early versions as well? I don’t remember it being a thing back a couple years

[iron swallow]

Thanks

[eternal garnet]

no idea. it doesn't always happen

[eternal garnet]

I don't think waiting after greenhouse is necessary

[carmine bobcat]

||is leaving with ALAN the true ending?||

[steel shoal]

It's the only ending

[carmine bobcat]

Oh okay

[steel shoal]

But make sure you finish the rest of the game before it. Would be awful if you forgot about something... or someone

[carmine bobcat]

Lol poor Margaret

[steel shoal]

I meant Sam

[carmine bobcat]

But she's dead

[steel shoal]

Many people forget about her and never find out what happened... which was the whole reason to visit 4546B

[carmine bobcat]

Do you know what's horrifying I searched on Google to find Alan pictures and then I saw ALAN x Robin comics 😭

[eternal garnet]

adult ones?

[carmine bobcat]

Sort of

[eternal garnet]

googling for spoilers

[carmine bobcat]

But no nsfw stuff

[eternal garnet]

Oh there is. So I've heard, I mean

[carmine bobcat]

?

[steel shoal]

It's a sign to turn off your devices and go to sleep...

[carmine bobcat]

It's 5 where I live

Pm

[rapid holly]

Nah. Sticks are easily replaced. I get L+R button rea tion issues and that is not fixed by replacing the buttons.

[floral olive]

Helloo

[fervent bloom]

Greetings.

[tacit comet]

Greetings.

aww Tig stole my line

[fervent bloom]

Is that something you say often?

[tacit comet]

Yes :(

lol

[floral olive]

Sad

[tacit comet]

indeed

[floral olive]

Anyway i am confused where is the middle of ocean in subnautica xd

[eternal garnet]

if you mean middle of the play area, in below zero it's delta island

[floral olive]

Oh okay

[steel shoal]

Hiii

[iron swallow]

Alright i'll check later when im done with work

[stone orbit]

just what type of gang meeting is this

[steel shoal]

loud neighbors competition

[tacit comet]

lol

[floral olive]

Hello!

[icy lily]

Dang that's crazy

[fervent bloom]

Somehow, I managed to miss the PDA on Delta Station Dock despite having played this game for a very long time and visited it regularly.

[zenith fractal]

If I’m searching for prawn suits to scan are they all in the same wreck or do I have to look somewhere else for them I have 3/4 scans done

[chrome cedar]

||Koppa mine has everything you need. Plus drill arm and a jump upgrade.||

[zenith fractal]

||I found the prawn suit parts in Mercury 2’s prawn bay is there another one over there? I’m not done exploring it yet.||

[chrome cedar]

Not sure on that exactly. By the time I get over there I already have all the pieces. Fragments show up but I’m not able to scan them, so I’m not sure what’s actually scannable to find.

I know there are pieces outside and just inside that area.

[zenith fractal]

I’ll have to look around once I’m done with the interior

[chrome cedar]

It’s worth setting up a scanner room nearby to search for fragments. There are some others there which are well hidden and require the laser cutter to access.

[mighty maple]

Why can't ||Noot Fish ||be placed in|| small aquariums?||

[fervent bloom]

Perhaps they are too large of a predator for the system to support.

[mighty maple]

You can have bigger predators in the ||large tank||. Why can't I have a small one in a ||small tank||.

[fervent bloom]

Alien containment is designed to support larger animals, and you can put symbiotes in the aquarium. You're right, though, that it's a little strange. Rockgrubs are also not possible to place in an aquarium. I would certainly suggest that you get a noot fish in alien containment.

[broken badge]

The bigger question is why things like pengwings don’t drown in containment

[fervent bloom]

Pinnacarids are even stated to breath air...

[broken badge]

Maybe tech has figured out solubility of oxygen, which is normally very low in water

At least generally speaking too low for sustaining larger organisms

[fervent bloom]

I was thinking of something like that. Perhaps it only works for creatures that have water in contact with their nostrils or the equivalent.

[broken badge]

Or some hybrid lung/gill anatomy of a sort

Meaning they’re not obligate air breathers

[fervent bloom]

It still feels wrong to drop an egg found on land that seems to have a hard shell underwater and expect it to hatch a healthy organism.

[broken badge]

I was legit paranoid at first to put pinnacarids in containment for that reason but then I was like surely the game wouldn’t have eggs for us to stick inside only for them to die😅

[fervent bloom]

Did you hatch one of those before a pengwing egg?

[broken badge]

I think so, because their eggs are very plentiful. Pengwing eggs are rare, unless you pick up the kids and raise them to breed

I have never kidnapped a pengling

They look adorable from pics tho

[fervent bloom]

I know of five.

[tacit comet]

a true measure of restraint, i salute you.

[quaint bloom]

is the vent gardens biome mainly just the two vent gardens with the ||alien artifact, thermal plant fragments, entrance to crystal caves, ||etc.? i couldn’t find much else

[west mountain]

The biome is called tree spires and yes, there are the two large vent gardens with the ||spiral plant|| inside, it has a lot of resources, many drillable ores and fragments to scan. Then there is the ||alien artefact|| in the southern one and the cave that connects to ||Maidas seabase and the entrance to crystal cavern in the northern one||. So a stunningly beautiful biome with the best biome theme music of BZ.

[west mountain]

But you have picked one up and made it giggle at you, did you?

[quaint bloom]

thank you!

[quaint bloom]

not having a stun gun in below zero definitely makes things intense lmao

[west mountain]

What for?

[quaint bloom]

stunning leviathans to get away

[west mountain]

You have the perimeter defense upgrade for your seatruck, that does the job perfectly

[quaint bloom]

yeah but you don’t have much when in prawn

i mainly use it for the prawn in OG subnautica

[west mountain]

Thats why you have the seatruck as your main weapon of choice

BZ is seatruck territory

[quaint bloom]

yeah i mean i get that, that’s why i still think it’s intense without a stun gun which is good

[west mountain]

Excellent, thats most important that you enjoy the way you play

[quaint bloom]

yeah i mean i like a lot of the things people dislike about BZ

[quaint bloom]

can someone explain without spoiling if ||building ALAN|| will finish the game? i want to make sure i don’t end the game before im ready? i just found the ||facility in the red crystals but need one more architect piece|| and i want to make sure i don’t end it when i build him?

[bold monolith]

It does not.

[eternal garnet]

The game is very clear about a point of no return.
Also don't bother building until you have 3 pieces

[quaint bloom]

okay great thank you everyone, just wanted to make sure. i want to show my base to my gf when she comes over so i wanted to make sure i dont end it

[steel shoal]

I'd try to focus on Sam, personally

[quaint bloom]

i’ve found the ||frozen leviathan ||and that was my last clue i’ve found about her

[eternal garnet]

You can also load your save after the end

[quaint bloom]

oh hell yeah that makes me not worry about it then

[steel shoal]

Have you visited all other facilities? And read what happened to her?

[eternal garnet]

after the point of no return, it's not possible to save

[steel shoal]

People often end the game without really understanding it

[quaint bloom]

yeah i’ve visited them all (i think i read ||she got crushed||) i wasn’t sure EXACTLY what happened though i don’t think. been to delta, phi robotics, outpost zero, koppa, and omega now i think in the ||red crystal biome||

[quaint bloom]

okay so you’re saying to save before and then i can load that save after the end of the game?

[eternal garnet]

yes. Actually, ideally save for the last time when you depart to craft the thing

[quaint bloom]

okay got it

[quaint bloom]

omega lab is the one in the ||red crystal ||biome correct?

[eternal garnet]

no

that one is called ||fabrication facility||

Omega was Alterra

[quaint bloom]

oh whoops okay i think i missed omega then ill search for it now

thank you

[eternal garnet]

like Zero it's hidden

[zealous pawn]

Does this game have an autosave

[cerulean musk]

no

[zealous pawn]

Dang

I'm scared to see how much progress I lost when my game crashed, I don't know when I last saved

[eternal garnet]

aw. You should save every quarter hour

[quaint bloom]

just finished the game

[zealous pawn]

I'm starting over completely 💀

[spice loom]

The painnn

How many hours were you in?

[zealous pawn]

Idk, I had explored the first island area and got the tech for seatruck fab and storage modules

Was starting a base

Just got a Seatruck built though so I'll be catching back up shortly

[left marsh]

Literally hardcore.

[tacit thorn]

there is extremely easily missable pda on the floor on the route to popsicle. Somebody will throw you a ss if you cant find it.

[eternal garnet]

check it
#announcements message

[spiral geyser]

Hey there guys

whoa so much unknown world team are online

[eternal garnet]

yesbecause big announcement about next subnautica

discussion in #subnautica-chat

[spiral geyser]

ah nice thanks mate

[upbeat peak]

So is this image from Below Zero r is it a sneak peek Of the next game?

[steel shoal]

It is a little sneak peek

[upbeat peak]

No way?!?

that’s awesome 👏

[mortal wren]

seatruck 😍

[earnest yacht]

Not seatruck

[mortal wren]

cyclops!!!

[eternal garnet]

baby cyclops... egg

[steel shoal]

I hope it's another munchable titanium/glass ball

Fish love those things

[eternal garnet]

canned snack

[spiral geyser]

nice work there UW team

...but i remember a programmer said he had enough about animating fish for the last 4 YEARS so you may try something else tho :3 xd

but i guess this will be an underwater game too so, poor guy :/ xd

[upbeat peak]

I hope the cyclops is back Fr

[steel shoal]

I hope we get something better than a Cyclops

[tacit thorn]

maybe this time they can write a script where they show chat-gpt a vid of real fish and tell it to animate model to match.

[white forge]

Seatruck 3.0, like Prawn in below zero lol

[tacit thorn]

Cabin and trusters, so we can drive our seabases.

[upbeat peak]

Do we have any information of what Systems the game can run on? I assume Xbox one and PlayStation 4 r not powerful enough

[eternal garnet]

no, but the engine does well on lower end

it's very optimized

[deep kettle]

Assuming you mean the new game, we don't know. The newer Unreal Engine 5 features don't really support older gen consoles though, so it depends on the features they plan on using and how much they want to keep compatible. Time will have to tell what they want to use.

[stone zenith]

PS4 and Xbox One are also being phased out as they are now 10+ years old

[upbeat peak]

OK I was just wondering thanks, i’m on PC tho

[tacit thorn]

You will most likely replace your whole pc platform by the time beta begins

[deep kettle]

Plenty of people don't use a PC (for gaming) 😉

[tacit thorn]

The one I'm replying to does.
And by that time, everybody will be running PS6

[upbeat peak]

I assume a rx 6700 xt could run the game

[prisma mural]

Below zero to me had alot of things going against, the world felt empty in some parts and claustrophobic in others. The characters also werent it. Some of the writing was really weird and ||marguerite being alive|| was super out of left field

[tacit thorn]

the story has been rewritten couple times.

[white forge]

I hated Bz for the fact it lost its scare factor, and the feeling of being alone. Plus the linear story? Lost a bit of freedom on that one. Really the only bit of freedom you have is to not cure the frozen leviathan.

[tacit thorn]

you can avoid whole old lady quest, can't you?

[tacit comet]

I think so, at least portions of it.

[steel shoal]

BZ is beautiful, not scary. I like that a lot.

[tacit thorn]

wait, OG was supposed to be scary?

[white forge]

I mean I guess, but Subnautica had a mix of both I think

[steel shoal]

In some parts, yes

The Reaper is a good example. It's not pretty at all

[tacit thorn]

I must have missed that, fooling around in creative with base building

[white forge]

Blood Kelp

[left marsh]

Well. Idk if it was supposed to be scary the enite time but it definitely was initially

[white forge]

And the famous "Are you certain"

[tacit thorn]

Will the scaries be reduced if I played BZ first?

[white forge]

Nah man I have over 1k hours and I still get shook

Bz has much less scary stuff, personally

[steel shoal]

I don't feel like it was supposed to be scary

[left marsh]

I have way less ans my most scared reaction in both games are:
“Oh, hello there fishy”

[tacit thorn]

I suspect my gameplay will be speedrunning to prawn, then murdering anything remotely hostile.

I stand by decision, that large organisms are best scanned when they are no longer moving, which means dead.

[tacit comet]

Tom? I thought you were a no harm to levis advocate

[left marsh]

Skill iss-

[tacit comet]

i feel betrayed

[steel shoal]

I hope they do something about killing the wildlife

Removal of Stasis Rifle was a good first step, but there are many more to go

[white forge]

You are 100% a pacifist lol

[left marsh]

Anthonybsaid they CAN make leviathans unkilleable btw

[tacit thorn]

You might have the wrong Tom. I murder ones that attack me with extreme prejudice. I did leave 2 shadow ones alive, after keeping them in cage for a month while I cleared the area, so know my mercy.

[tacit comet]

I might yeah... :(

[tacit thorn]

If I had access to nonlethal ways of stopping things in BZ, I would be less inclined to unalive them.

[steel shoal]

Stop piloting the seatruck. Nothing will get you.

[white forge]

"Not supposed to be scary" (lol)

[fervent bloom]

Beyond the gas torpedo, what are you thinking of?

[tacit thorn]

Its for times when I'm swimming outside or in prawn.

[fervent bloom]

All of those are cut, though. Perhaps there's a reason.

[steel shoal]

Removing damage stats

[white forge]

True, but I like that it was considered

[fervent bloom]

Ah, yes. Would that include every creature, or just leviathans?

[steel shoal]

They also considered making Reefbacks and Reapers, but then scrapped them and made entirely new designs

[tacit thorn]

Squidhsark is horryfying in vanilla version.
In fact, I believe the grab should be an instakill. Was surprised it was not.

[left marsh]

Why does it have torpedoes wth

Bro evolved a bit too much

[fervent bloom]

It was intended as a different organism that colonizes predator corpses.

[tacit thorn]

One disease per game was not enough???

[left marsh]

Oh.. thats an interesting idea but a bit freaky.

[white forge]

I love freaky

[prisma mural]

to me below zeros story is very lacking. I hate to harp on the game so much but man does the story feel all over the place.

[white forge]

Agreed

[plush fjord]

Not a disease it's a parasite

[white forge]

Subnautica, despite having basically no set direction, the story was fantastical

[tacit thorn]

Parasitosis IS a disease.

[carmine bobcat]

Where do I find this fellow

[tacit thorn]

isnt this OG companion feesh?

[carmine bobcat]

Idk but I wanna find this feesh

[tacit comet]

The cuddlefish is not in Below Zero unfortunately.

[tacit thorn]

we get trilobites. That there is only 6 of, and cannot be bred, correct?

[upbeat peak]

Nice and quiet in here lol

[tacit thorn]

everybody either talking in OG chat, playing something else, or making mods. Which one are you?

[clever crow]

i'm looking at what sn devs say about new game ☕

[storm imp]

I'm eating lunch and wasting time here

[upbeat peak]

What you eating 🍽

[fervent bloom]

I prefer Below Zero, but am glad to talk about Subnautica as well.

[paper goblet]

sadly, not in below zero 😔

[storm imp]

pengling chicken nuggets

[upbeat peak]

Save me some

[tacit thorn]

Thank god refrigerator exists

[storm imp]

too late

[upbeat peak]

lol

[tacit comet]

do you really need one in BZ? ❄️

[upbeat peak]

Good point lol

[tacit thorn]

apparently yes, because for some reason we cant just chuck bag in the ice

[storm imp]

well then it would freeze

[upbeat peak]

#subnautica-chat is going crazy right now lol

[storm imp]

since it's already colder outside than in, the refrigerator is mostly just a less-warm-habitat-storage-unit

[storm imp]

I can imagine.

[upbeat peak]

Imagine if the cuddle fish can drive the Cyclops with you lol

[tacit thorn]

I assume it has -17C compartment inside, or my biological samples, including eggs, plants and live fish/penglings may not be so fresh in a year.

[storm imp]

who knows?

[eternal garnet]

There is a different pet in BZ. It can swim and walk. Find guides for the Trivalve

[carmine bobcat]

Can I get it

[tacit comet]

Yes, you can find several eggs around the map.

[carmine bobcat]

Is there a live one

And it's a cuttlefish right

[tacit comet]

No, they're in eggs until you hatch them.

In an alien containment.

[plush fjord]

No it's a Trivalve

[tacit comet]

No, there are only Trivalves in BZ, Cuddlefish are only in SN

[fervent bloom]

What do you think the best location for a violet snowcone screenshot is? You might have a suggestion, @steel shoal .

[tacit comet]

I'd say #below-zero-chat unless it's artwork created by you.

I however, am not an omnipotent cat, so not 100% sure.

[fervent bloom]

I'm not sure if you're joking; if not, I meant in the game.

[tacit comet]

Oh lmao, I thought you meant channels, lol

my bad.

[steel shoal]

Violet snowcone... hmmm

The Phi dock has a really large one

[fervent bloom]

There's another large one on one of the icebergs nearby.

[covert nexus]

who would win, sea emperor or shadow leviathan?

[steel shoal]

Sea Emperor is significantly larger, and the thick exoskeleton would probably render Shadow's attack pointless. Though it has no way of attacking, so I don't know.

[vague zealot]

It could just crush it with its big claw

[covert nexus]

i feel like sea emperor would win this round, yeah

[tacit comet]

But the Shadow would likely have some defense as well, I doubt it would be as easy as just a grab.

[covert nexus]

it would definitely be a long fight, since it’s equal defense, but the emperor has the upper hand due to high intelligence i think

[tacit comet]

I would think so.

[fervent bloom]

I don't think they'd be interested in fighting each other.

[covert nexus]

okay so now; chelicerate vs squid shark

[covert nexus]

it’s a matter of concept not realism

[cerulean musk]

yeah does the passifying effect of hte sea emporrers also effect other leviathans?

[tacit comet]

Cheli

Squid isn't even a full levi

[covert nexus]

yeahhh but i thought id add it

[tacit comet]

I would imagine chelis eat squidsharks as part of their diet

[covert nexus]

so what’s the thought process of cheli winning?

[tacit comet]

eat

[covert nexus]

i’m just talking as a what if not a could this happen

[tacit comet]

I don't think a squidshark would stand much of a chance honestly.

[covert nexus]

you’re right

brb

[carmine bobcat]

I'm sad my sea moth is gone

[tacit comet]

#subnautica-chat I doubt it is, isn't it just beached?

[carmine bobcat]

Yeah but I can't move

[covert nexus]

i never said round one cause i was pretty certain of the winner but i should probably ask just in case, chelicerate would beat juvenile vent garden correct?

[tacit comet]

I don't think vent gardens could do much in terms of offense at all

[fervent bloom]

You're right, it's pretty obvious. The juvenile ventgarden is easily the winner.

[tacit comet]

lol

[covert nexus]

okay thought so lol

[vague zealot]

Which would win the gargantuan leviathan or the reefback

[covert nexus]

my brother disagreed with the chelicerate beating the squidshark, are we sure the cheli would win?

[fervent bloom]

The only thing that makes me consider the squidshark winning is the electrical tentacles. Still, I don't think a single squidshark against a chelicerate will end well for the former.

[tacit thorn]

if it can survive the first zzap without being stunned, as soon as squid is grabbed, its dead

[tacit comet]

Reefback, the Garg is dead, lmao.

You can find its bones in the LR.

[vague zealot]

Hypothetically if it was alive

[tacit comet]

But 'tis not.

[vague zealot]

But what if it was

[covert nexus]

the reefback can’t even fight, what do you think bro

[tacit comet]

Then you'd have mods installed and the game would be so buggy that the reefback would win anyway.

I've tried it, trust.

[covert nexus]

PFT

[vague zealot]

It can make it choke

[tacit comet]

I doubt it honestly.

Have you seen a gargs chompers.

[steel shoal]

I think Chelis would hunt squidsharks

[covert nexus]

i’m pretty sure a snake like creature wouldn’t have a gag reflex let alone a right throat

[vague zealot]

Alien planet anything is possible

[fervent bloom]

It could have tiger plants growing on it...

[tacit comet]

lol

and they're more powerful than sea drags

[vague zealot]

What if the yellow pods in the reefback are toxic and kill the garg

[tacit comet]

so reefie would win

tiger plants can kill bases, sea drags and gargs can't

easy win for reefie.

[covert nexus]

okay next round; glow whale vs reefback

[vague zealot]

They ain't doing anything to each other

[cerulean musk]

glow whale does a kirby

[tacit thorn]

Glow whale wins the dance contest

[steel shoal]

I think they'd be best friends and go out for some ice cream

[vague zealot]

I got a hard one peeper or garg leviathan

[covert nexus]

if one more person tells me that, im gonna start crying. IN TERMS OF CONCEPT NOT REALISM

[tacit comet]

peeper leviathan would win, no questions asked

[covert nexus]

peeper no diff

[vague zealot]

Well the reefback is harder and the glow whale won't be able to do much damage to it

[tacit comet]

but the reefie wouldn't be able to really hurt it either.

I think it'd be a draw.

[vague zealot]

They'll just flip and knock the glow whale out

[covert nexus]

it’s a tournament bracket there can’t be a drawl

[vague zealot]

Like how they flip in game

[fervent bloom]

The only reason I don't think so is because of the tiger plants and possible acid mushrooms.

[tacit comet]

oh lol

[covert nexus]

i don’t think they flip 💀

[tacit comet]

they do, have you seen them?

They go bonkers sometimes.

[steel shoal]

Why fish hurty each other :c

[vague zealot]

If they glitch that flip could knock anything out

[covert nexus]

cause we gotta knowwww

[tacit comet]

Because humans like thing fighting each other

pokemon

[covert nexus]

okay but seriously guys glowshark or reefback who’s winning

[vague zealot]

Glowshark no diff

[tacit comet]

That was us being serious.

[steel shoal]

glowshark? Is this a SN2 leak?

[tacit comet]

I'd say reefback because the tiger plants, personally.

[vague zealot]

I have a difficult one

[covert nexus]

omg i said glowshark i’m so dumb, i meant glow whale

[tacit comet]

lol

[vague zealot]

Hover lizard or ice dragon

[covert nexus]

hover lizard

[tacit comet]

also a sub2 leak

[covert nexus]

huh

[tacit comet]

don't look y'all

[covert nexus]

the ice dragon?

[tacit comet]

I also meant the Hover Lizard, lol.

Whatever that lil guy is.

[covert nexus]

the ice dragon isn’t a leak, it’s an early concept that didn’t make it to the original game, it’s been speculated to come back in this one

[vague zealot]

I miss the hover lizard

[tacit thorn]

dune-ice-worm vs sea emperor?

[tacit comet]

Speculation?

wow, look, no firm evidence.

[vague zealot]

Ice worm wins the sea emperor would suffocate

[tacit comet]

Who said they were fighting on land?

[steel shoal]

I think the Ice Dragon was scrapped because its biome was removed, but they wanted to find a way to implement it. Spoiler alert, they didn't.

[vague zealot]

Sea emperor has a clear advantage but would probably get burnt pretty bad

Nvm that thing could stab its heart and die

[steel shoal]

The concept art also showed some annoying gameplay 👁️

[cerulean musk]

methane caves :(

[vague zealot]

I bet you don't remember the arctic reefback

[tacit comet]

they would be too stinky anyway.

[cerulean musk]

brinewing but worse right?

[steel shoal]

Brinewing but for your vehicle

[covert nexus]

i still wanna know who would win between the reefback and the glowshark :(

[steel shoal]

I do. It was gorgeous.

[tacit comet]

reefback is my definitive answer

[vague zealot]

They kiss

[steel shoal]

But I do prefer the Glow Whale. It feels more unique than an artic Reefback

[tacit comet]

indeed

[vague zealot]

Garry fish or trivalve

[cerulean musk]

arctic reefback was just a reefback with a glacier on top?

[fervent bloom]

No, it worked like an icebreaker, rising up on pack ice and then sinking through. Apparently, pengwings were going to ride on it.

[cerulean musk]

oooo

[steel shoal]

It looked very nice

It was a bright blue

[tacit thorn]

Eyes-breaker? The bane of peepers?

[vague zealot]

Who remembers the glowwahle concept art for the first game

[steel shoal]

I do. Rock Punchers were also there

[vague zealot]

Spinner fish also

I wonder if any old concept art creatures will be in the new game

[covert nexus]

but why would the reefback win?

[vague zealot]

Reefback does a flip and kills the glow whale breaking its skull

[cerulean musk]

lore accurate

[tacit thorn]

By accident, if whale triggers the aggresive plants on top.

[vague zealot]

Who would win the spinner fish or the hover fish

[covert nexus]

would tiger plants really kill a whale though?

[fervent bloom]

Could the ice worm attack a base built on one of the ||Arctic Spires||'s titular ice formation?

[tacit thorn]

Might be outside trigger area. How do you get up there tho?

[fervent bloom]

You can jump onto them with the Snowfox if you can find a ledge above or a ramp.

Also, it turns out that they can attack the player there.

[steel shoal]

They can also attack in caves

[fervent bloom]

Yes, I have noticed that.

[steel shoal]

Also, I have tested this before, not sure if I shared it with you

Pinnacarids, Pengwings and Penglings do not trigger Ice Worm attacks, and if they get caught in an attack, they do not get damaged

[fervent bloom]

That opens up some options for base mascots!

Do you know if penglings that are taken from the wild and placed in containment will respawn?

[steel shoal]

I will not steal Penglings again.

[fervent bloom]

I know, and I wouldn't either.

[next current]

But your Seatruck lockers are full of them.

[steel shoal]

I know, but they come from eggs.

I've been breeding them so I can place them around my base

[fervent bloom]

Has anyone ever had to repair a Spy Pengling?

[tacit comet]

I have

Because I’ve tried prawn drill arm to see the funniest things I’m able to repair

Like thermal plants, power transmitters

[fervent bloom]

The survival knife doesn't hurt it.

[tacit comet]

I know

That why I use the prawn drill arm

[fervent bloom]

That's a logical choice. I was just noting that not every damage source in the game will hurt it.

[tacit comet]

Yes of course

I just wanted to find out how many different things I could use the repair tool on lol

[fervent bloom]

What were your results on the exterior base components?

[tacit comet]

Most of them get damaged and can be repaired lol

Thumpers too.

[steel shoal]

I just learned the most awful thing ever

||Tether tool will always warp you to the closest Teleportation Module. It's basically useless unless you went too far from your Seatruck when exploring||

[tacit comet]

That’s the whole point of it though

I’m not really surprised lol.

[fervent bloom]

I thought you ended up in the oldest powered module.

[tacit comet]

I think that’s what she means

Oh

Hmm not sure, I don’t use it

[steel shoal]

Strange. It works on unpowered modules, but happens that all my tests were on a powered module

I wish you could select which module to teleport to

[fervent bloom]

That information is from the wiki...

[steel shoal]

Here's some happier info:
Lightweight tank is still accessible with commands
Ultra Glide Fins too

I think Radiation Suit as well? I don't rember

[cerulean musk]

so is the seamoth with sonar!

[steel shoal]

If the seamoth hatch is above the surface, when you disembark you will swim in the air

[fervent bloom]

Do you use the spotlight?

[steel shoal]

Yes

[fervent bloom]

Do you think I should? There's an arctic ray near my base that I wouldn't mind having pointed out...

[steel shoal]

They're very nice

But be careful with power

[chrome cedar]

Just get more power.

[quaint bloom]

doesn’t the PDA say that the bacterium was possibly going to be used for weapons?

also did Robin purposefully crash land? I thought a meteor hit the ship?

[safe sun]

Sam suspected it.

[safe sun]

You're right, it was a meteor and the crash was unintentional.

[quaint bloom]

and did alterra ever state it was going to be used for medicine?

[quaint bloom]

okay i thought so thanks

i’m watching this video and there’s so much wrong stuff in it ||https://youtu.be/P-AWFjBONp8?si=jW3J5jUXs1X_rmM9||

[safe sun]

Not surprising tbh. A ton of YTers don't do the proper research and wind up getting a ton of things wrong. Even that big game theory channel got a lot wrong in their SN1 video.

[safe sun]

I don't see anything about medicine in the databanks.

[quaint bloom]

yeah seems so which is annoying as it’s the top video on BZ. like so many things he said baffled me as they were so wrong

[quaint bloom]

i thought so, he said they were going to use it as medicine?

in the video

[safe sun]

This is an old entry about the Vesper.

So, plausible I guess?

[quaint bloom]

yeah he stated it as fact which was entirely wrong. i don’t think it’s wrong to suspect it could be used as weapons

[safe sun]

Yeah seems like a very human thing to do lol

[quaint bloom]

he also said the first game had a problem with leaving people lost and unsure of what to do which is in my opinion one of its biggest strengths. it doesn’t handhold the player and i also think it does guide them some with the lifepods

[safe sun]

I agree with you however that is a rather common opinion people have of it. A lot of people are way too accustom to quest markers and hand-holding.

[quaint bloom]

yeah i agree completely especially with modern gaming. a lot of games handhold way too much and i respect the OG for not doing it but still having ways so you aren’t completely lost such as the lifepods and if people actually read the pda it’d help a lot

also, is the ||bacterium|| in BZ a different variant from the first?

[safe sun]

Nah, same one.

[quaint bloom]

i swore i thought i had read it was a different ||variant of kharaa|| and that’s how it was able to stay in the ||frozen leviathans body|| so long

[safe sun]

I could be wrong on that, it's been a long time since I did a proper BZ playthrough.

[quaint bloom]

i’ll see if i can find it in the pda entries online

[safe sun]

You're right

[quaint bloom]

okay great thanks i thought that was the case. you were quick on that haha

that’s another mistake i found in the vid was that it was the same one

[safe sun]

Two screens, and I've had the wiki opened since we started our chat 🙂

[quaint bloom]

lmao very efficient. thanks by the way

[steel shoal]

Yes

Alterra only mentioned its possible uses in medicine. Weapons were only mentioned by Sam, that's why no one believed her. Only the scary lady who wanted chaos.

[fast tangle]

sad

[steel shoal]

||Vinh was the one in charge of testing the mutations and he did not want it to be weaponized. It's kinda sad that Sam sent Marg to possibly kill him||

[fast tangle]

to not know that who was right and who was wrong.

[steel shoal]

In the old story, Alterra was an evil corp, but now they're kinda grey. And so is Sam

[fast tangle]

I feel like Subnautica is a universe where everyone is grey. I mean aliens where bad but not in bz now grey and alterra was bad then here again turned grey.

everyone is victim of something.

[stone orbit]

whats the most reliable bioreactor fuel

[clever crow]

alterra is no victim, its employees are

[steel shoal]

Alterra is suffering from Aurora

[steel shoal]

Root pustules

But they're non renewable. You can also use peepers and gel sacks

[eternal garnet]

I prefer pepper fruit

[steel shoal]

Basically, everything I loved about SN got a major improvement in BZ.
||Base building is so good, and the lighting is gorgeous;
Creature design is a clear improvement, and I love every creature very much;
The map is more unique, less sparse and very pretty, going for detail instead of size;
I enjoyed exploring wrecks, Mercury II with its oxygen plants were even better;
We got even more voice logs, but this time with lots of personality;
Land sections are much more satisfying, and the Snowfox is so fun;
Weather, and the Aurora in the sky;
The story is fun, even if it does have a few holes (Al-An knows about melodies, musical instruments but not music; Maida is alive);
The OST by Ben Prunty is miles better than the SN OST, it's so much more diverse, unique, and experimental. The world felt much more alive with the music boxes playing all kinds of melodies, instead of the same song repeating in different keys/tempos.||
And in general, I love snow and cold weather. The game almost felt like a love letter.

[prisma mural]

Honestly

You make some great points

[steel shoal]

But it was much much different from SN. It's not a spooky survival game, it's a mystery solving game with survival aspects

[prisma mural]

It may not be for me but i cant deny the base building and lighting

[prisma mural]

Great description

[steel shoal]

It tried to stray away from Subnautica a lot, concept art shows Arctic versions of creatures, and then they scrapped it and went for more unique designs.

Ice-breaker reefback was fun though

[fast tangle]

you are totally right. but this is what actually really hurt. i dont hate bz its a very good game but not Subnautica like. Many were there for subnautica including me.

[prisma mural]

I care too much about story and consistancy. To me, BZ falls short on too many fronts but exceeds SN on many others.

[fast tangle]

anyway next game in works, and here we might see best of both worlds. this is what i am excited for

[steel shoal]

Considering that they had to rewrite the whole story late in development, and tried to reuse the assets, they did a phenomenal job

But the story could be so much better if they had a clear vision from the start

[prisma mural]

Is there a way i can read the first or second itterations of BZ?

[steel shoal]

The old story is available on Steam

[fast tangle]

definitely. but how i feel i cannot hide it. thats all

[steel shoal]

The ending is on YouTube

[prisma mural]

Oh fr?

link?

Swag mode?

[steel shoal]

I don't have the link, but it's quite easy to find

[eternal garnet]

enter beta key: belowzeroearlyaccess
Then pick a branch, EA8 recommended for the last old story version

EA1 is quite barren

[prisma mural]

Just found it, watching noe

Now*

[fast tangle]

which ending

[steel shoal]

I'll be saving this in case someone else asks

[fast tangle]

early access ones

[eternal garnet]

The old ending is not in the EA

[steel shoal]

For the old story

It was very action packed, and ambitious

[fast tangle]

so old story, got an ending too. i didnt know i mean i thought it got scrapped mid way

man, i will look into that latter

[steel shoal]

I meant mid-development, sorry

[cerulean musk]

with commands you could see everything but the itty bitty last bit

iiirc

[eternal garnet]

yes, you could try this on ea8: "story endgame"
But play it first

[prisma mural]

BZ's old ending is neat

Wonder what wouldve been had the og been kept

[fast tangle]

neat because it was a planned one. but we never got sadly

[steel shoal]

The current ending is beautiful

And I did cry

[prisma mural]

Real?

[steel shoal]

I think so

[cerulean musk]

i dont think alan went into jeff

[stone orbit]

i love it so much

[cerulean musk]

but jeff was eager to get his hands on alan

and robin kept alan a secret from alterra/vesper station, you end up sending a kharah sample up to the station but when you try to send up a enzyme 42 sample jeff activates a planetary shield

[steel shoal]

In the old story, Alterra was evil

[fast tangle]

i love it too. but as cutcontent there might be chance of it getting in next game but then again reefback and ice. i dont think next game is on ice, unless they have extreme biome changes in one location.

[steel shoal]

I hope they try to be unique again

No more variants (unless they're like, of new creatures found in the new game, kinda like feather fish)

[stone orbit]

UE5 powered subnautica will have my computer absolutely fried

[eternal garnet]

no, I hear this misconception a lot. UE5 is very efficient

I don't think it will

On the other hand, BZ is not very GPU taxing at all

[steel shoal]

UE5 is really well optimized, I heard

[fast tangle]

in new story Enzyme 42 was also handle poorly, like i was so surprised to know that it can be crafted just with 2 decent flora. old one makes sense as your sister is sending it, cause they now have it from the first game.

[steel shoal]

I forgot to mention, the OST. It's really really really really good. I love it a lot. SN OST is kinda repetitive, in comparison. Also, Ben Prunty my beloved, glad he's staying for SN2

[fast tangle]

i agree

[steel shoal]

In the old story, you had to go to an Emperor for it. In the new one, it does make sense, as the enzyme was spread quite quickly. Because everything was infected, it's possible that it became part of the fauna and flora constitution. But honestly, you're not supposed to craft it, the recipe is simple in case you lose it, as you're already given the item.

[fast tangle]

yeah true, but not gonna lie, having a recipe to craft it contrast whole first game point. how much we all went throught for that in first game.

[cerulean musk]

The lack of tablets also seem like such a weird retcon

[fast tangle]

lack of tablets, lack of codes. story doesn't feel rewarding its like a chore for nothing to get goosebumping for anything.

i still hope if they have gotten a litte more time in even changing the story in rush but might make it a little more good with whatever allthey have able to fit it all. but nevermind i guess i am too much, stuffs happen.

[molten jewel]

I thought that below zero was the second game, then yesterday they announced sub2? 🤔

[eternal garnet]

BZ is not subnautica 2. But the name is not final

[storm imp]

bz is a side story that happens to take place after sn, not a direct sequel, and we've known about the next game in the sn universe for a while now (which also isn't confirmed to be a direct sequel)

[steel shoal]

BZ is like a Captain America movie in the Iron Man Universe. It takes place after, it is in the same Universe, but it's not Iron Man 2

An adjacent story

[molten jewel]

cool.

is it in another planet?

[eternal garnet]

BZ is on the same planet, 2 years after

A colder area obviously

[delicate shoal]

to all of the proffesional subnautica below zero player do you got any tips i have just started playing

already played subnautica btw

[eternal garnet]

save often. Explore every new area. Monkeys may annoy you at first (not later), just hide your tool (PC: E. Console at least swap away from seaglide)

[delicate shoal]

what there is a monkey?

[eternal garnet]

not really. sea monkeys

[delicate shoal]

okaayyy

so it can steal my tools?

alright

[eternal garnet]

yes, You can grab it back. Easy with the seaglide

[delicate shoal]

when i first checking inventory why the hell i dont have fins or a suit xD

[eternal garnet]

Their nests are a big source of blueprints

[carmine bobcat]

Are there time capsules in below zero?

[steel shoal]

No

[vague zealot]

@fast tangle

That red dude

[fast tangle]

too small to read buddy

[steel shoal]

Very interesting, but could've been higher quality

[fast tangle]

well i will look it by myself in internet

[lofty thunder]

That ball thing would be awesome to see in subnautica 2

[fast tangle]

there was a Rotness creature, that could be used as an idea as well

[steel shoal]

Scary stuff, creature design is in good hands with Alex Ries

[fast tangle]

he kinda have scanner eyes before. only odd looking thing

[steel shoal]

The red thing was probably reused for Arrow Ray

[river quest]

The enemy of god

[dapper meadow]

Is there a build height limit?

[steel shoal]

No

[deep kettle]

There is though.

[celest steppe]

alterra IS evil

[covert nexus]

if every leviathan (excluding the ones that are dead/fossils, and ice worm) were to fight to the death, who would win? i know not all are hostile and some wouldn’t even try to attack but if they WERE to

[steel shoal]

I think we've already discussed this

[covert nexus]

hi andy landy!

no we were doing a tourny

[steel shoal]

I don't think so. They seem to treat their workers well

[covert nexus]

now i just wanna know

[steel shoal]

I think the most evil they did in BZ was not looking after Maida.

[covert nexus]

this also excludes the emperor because i have no idea if she would win or not and that doesnt seem like a fair fight

[celest steppe]

well their workers but if we look at subnautica 1 they|| literally billed our player 1 billion credit (rough estimate i dont remember the actual number) and probably put him in dept 😭|| (subnautica spoilers) these guys might treat their workers nice but they defo dont treat survivors nicely

WAIT

oh my god frick wrong chat 😭

i didnt realize i was in bz chat

[steel shoal]

Nono

This is the right channel

[steel shoal]

Ryley is fine. ||That message was automated, and the humans most likely allowed him to land. I think it was a trillion credits, but Alterra HQ did give permission for him to use naturally occurring resources and the Aurora. Ryley is probably in the Board of Directors, with his whole life paid in advance. He is most profitable, and his PDA (and body) have a ton of important info that Alterra did not want to lose. That's why they returned to the planet, after all. It's full of riches, AND alien technology.||

[tacit comet]

[tacit comet]

I feel like I remember a 3 or something like ||3 trillion||

[tacit comet]

I've always wanted to know if we have a confirmation for this.

[celest steppe]

oh yeahh i didnt really think of that.|| i thought these monsters put him into dept because he survived this whole time 😭 ||

[steel shoal]

There was confirmation, but then it got deleted 😭

[tacit comet]

sadge

[covert nexus]

nobody answered me :((

[steel shoal]

They're probably grateful. He did finish Aurora's secondary mission

[covert nexus]

also how do i censor things btw i forgot

[steel shoal]

||like this||

[covert nexus]

||hi||

woahhhh

[steel shoal]

I don't like to think about fighting, sorry.

[celest steppe]

yeah

[covert nexus]

you don’t like to think about fighting? on a game where you fight to survive?..

[tacit comet]

When do you have to fight?

You don't at all.

Fighting is not what Sub is about.

[white forge]

Bone sharks..

Hiss.

[tacit comet]

You don't have to fight those, there's not reason to.

[white forge]

:c I do. I hate them

[finite vale]

Fighting is optional.

[tacit comet]

You choose to, you never need to.

[steel shoal]

Fighting is highly discouraged, even if possible

[covert nexus]

true, sandsharks though.. 😡

[finite vale]

As someone who fights in the game, I can say that it's entirely optional. You don't need to fight to have fun.

[covert nexus]

i hate sand sharks

[white forge]

I just swipe at them _o get them to flee, if they choose to come back that's their fault

[steel shoal]

Bonesharks are the only creature to do this, they're more aggressive when you're inside vehicles

[white forge]

Exactly why I dislike them qvq

[steel shoal]

No other creature checks for it, apparently

[covert nexus]

the only two i genuinely fight on purpose are sand sharks and stalkers, sand sharks are annoying, and stalkers.. i hate them

[tacit comet]

Vehicles do have bigger aggro radii, iirc.

[steel shoal]

I like bonesharks, I live under one of their signature biomes (Underwater Islands)

[finite vale]

I wouldn't say the game "discourages" it, more like it's a sitaution where it's entirely an option. You can fight or just swim past, either way, you don't need to do one option instead of the other to have fun.

[tacit comet]

Stalkers are so frenly.

[tacit comet]

Devs have discouraged it, and the lack of weapons is also evidence.

[steel shoal]

The game does discourage through PDAs, and the fact that you don't get any loot/weapons are very inefficient

[finite vale]

That's... a little silly.

[viral knot]

i am training my army

[tacit comet]

how so? it makes sense

[covert nexus]

calm down we can talk about this

[steel shoal]

No rocks will be left unpunched after this one

[pure orchid]

Woooooo

[tacit comet]

Not every game has to fulfill the human desires of destruction.

[viral knot]

there's no way back

[steel shoal]

Devs have said yesterday that the new game will have unkillable leviathans 🙏

[viral knot]

yes i am going do punch entire planet

[white forge]

I would too, if it wasn't for gulper leviathans.. (de-extinction)

[finite vale]

I feel like it shouldn't be discouraged. Subnautica feels like a game where you can choose your own path and do what you want to do, so you know, you can kill or walk away. Your choice.

[tacit comet]

They said it's a possibility right? Can't wait.

[viral knot]

that's so cool

[finite vale]

I actually LOVE that idea

[tacit comet]

Will finally stop the dead levi posts

[white forge]

To be fair, if they didn't want it..why add death anims

[pure orchid]

[steel shoal]

They want players to find a way to escape/deter them without violence. They tried in BZ, but players always find a way to exploit game mechanics for it.

[finite vale]

They aren't really anims
they just
flip over

[tacit comet]

I don't think there are for levis.

[white forge]

There are

[finite vale]

They do have animation. They just flip over.

[tacit comet]

No, not really, lol

Even bleeder attack have better anims

[finite vale]

All fish do that in Subnautica. they're not special.

[steel shoal]

Some of them do, I think they close the eyes or wiggle a bit before flipping over. Some just despawn.

[covert nexus]

idk why yall are so against subnautica allowing the harming of the fish in the game, it’s literally an implementation they made to expand the experience of survival

[viral knot]

i have two mega bases in both ||crystal caverns||, am i insane?

[steel shoal]

#subnautica-chat message

[finite vale]

I'm not. I'm a big fan of slaying them goofy sea goobers

[white forge]

The shadow leviathan curls up a bit, rather than just, flipping over

[steel shoal]

You're the sanest person in the room.

[viral knot]

i need to clone my rock punchers

[steel shoal]

Each Large Room ACU can have 6, and they stack

[tacit comet]

wha 'bout me?

[steel shoal]

Hmm, I don't know

[finite vale]

I can just hear them marching.

[viral knot]

yes, to your base

[steel shoal]

I'm sorry to tell you this, but ||hatched punchers don't give outcrops||

[finite vale]

I will slay them all in my Prawn dawg 💪💯"Oh yeah Mr. Krabs."

[viral knot]

yes i know

[steel shoal]

You can use Prop Cannon Arm to bring a wild one to your base. Infinite rocks

[viral knot]

i have two or three near my base in ||crystals||

i discovered path finder just now
that thing is so cool bro
and since i have to navigate through the lily pads biome to ||maida's base|| and then to ||crystals|| to get to my base
this will be pretty useful

[cerulean musk]

there is a map

[viral knot]

yeah well i know but i prefer to focus on game instead of alt tabbing every .5 seconds lol

did i just clear my path

i wanted to delete just one

[viral knot]

my game crashed

yes

[tacit comet]

a noble title

[viral knot]

also what was confirmed?
other than coop and the ue5

bc i didnt really pay attention to this chat recently

[tacit comet]

Mostly, single layer story focused, with potential co-op, unreal engine 5, has water, is on a different planet

Andy can get the things I probably missed lol

[viral knot]

yes i saw some interesting messages

[tacit comet]

Indeed

[viral knot]

like with the uhh unkillable leviathans? but was this confirmed?

[tacit comet]

I'm not sure, the devs definitely want a system to discourage levi killing more.

One of them suggested it, so we'll see!

[viral knot]

yeah it destroys the game

[tacit comet]

I really hope they do implement it.

[viral knot]

me too

honestly
i build my mega bases in ||crystals|| where i can see ||shadow levi|| swimming next to my base or above the rooftop which i absolutely love, same for tree spires

otherwise i wouldnt build them there

[tacit comet]

It's very cool

I'm so glad I play on Steam, my levi has died several times on accident :(

[finite vale]

As much as I love Saxton Hale-ing the leviathan species, I really can't wait for this

It brings back that sense of danger

[viral knot]

mine didnt yet, also i have a base in ||fabricator caverns|| with an observatory placed so i can see both ||shadow levis||

and that view is absolutely magnificent

[viral knot]

what

[finite vale]

what?💀

[viral knot]

i dont get Saxton Hale-ing

[tacit comet]

Same, went over my head.

[viral knot]

what's this

[finite vale]

Saxton Hale is a character in Team Fortress 2

[viral knot]

oh i forgor

[finite vale]

He's big and likes killing things, made a species go extinct all by himself

basically me in my Prawn

[white forge]

Real

[tacit comet]

[viral knot]

i am mining the whole planet in prawn

[finite vale]

I'm commiting war crimes

I was the one on Obraxis Prime

[viral knot]

my prawn is nothing but one big drill that goes to ||koppa|| and back to the base lol

[white forge]

Legit just joined Stray discord to use the cat emojis

[finite vale]

I am the reason that the knife remains the only exception 💪💪💯

[tacit comet]

Or also because I play? lol

[white forge]

No

I'm saying I did

[tacit comet]

oh lol

[white forge]

[viral knot]

nuhuh

🗿

[finite vale]

💀

[white forge]

Nuh uh

[viral knot]

lemme use gifs😭

[eternal garnet]

Nuh uh

[finite vale]

Sadly, no forum weapons allowed in this chat

[viral knot]

muh gifs😭

[tacit comet]

#memes-and-media for gifs

[steel shoal]

Unkillable leviathans, vegan options, same concept artist and composer

!!!

[finite vale]

Weren't there already vegan options in Subnautious?

[steel shoal]

But I was talking about Ryley being at home, with his debt lifted. It was confirmed in BZ Early Access, on a PDA, but then it got removed

[steel shoal]

Salad in BZ. That's all, unless you want to eat raw plants

[white forge]

Lantern tree, marnomelons, onions

[finite vale]

Raw Plants >>> 💪

[steel shoal]

Onions?

[finite vale]

I hope S2 has a silent protag

I want another experience where I can project myself into the main character. I could do that with Ryley, not with Robin.

[tacit comet]

were those confirmed though? I know you asked for some, and they said they would consider it

[steel shoal]

Things can change

But that was what was told

[white forge]

Robin was annoying as..UGH-I hate how..cringe, she was

[tacit comet]

Robin was awesome, in my opinion at least.

[white forge]

I muted her speeches

[finite vale]

I agree.
I love her VA but like
She just goes on and on and on blahblahblah

[white forge]

Agreed.

[steel shoal]

I like Robin, she's cool. Wish she had more character development, though.

[tacit comet]

I enjoyed the extra lore.

[finite vale]

The voice work was great. VA delivered a lovely performance.

[tacit comet]

The story wouldn't have been as good without Robin's voice acting.

[white forge]

That's because Below Zero wouldn't have worked without it

[finite vale]

I just don't like how much she talks
she just
on and on and on and on and on

[steel shoal]

People want another immersive survival sim 😔 they did not sign up for that when they bought BZ

[finite vale]

I agree with you on that one. I've been reexploring BZ and looking at it in a different way, and I've enjoyed it more bc of that different viewpoint.

[rugged meadow]

off topic here- did we ever get the reason as to why there is no minable nickel ore in bz?

[steel shoal]

Nickel deposits are something I never really understood in SN

Nickel is barely used, and is found in very high quantities.

[rugged meadow]

same for kyanite tbh. once you make depth modules, there is nothing else much to build with them other than some minor upgrades

[steel shoal]

Kyanite deposits are kind of excessive in BZ, but they look nice so idc

[tacit comet]

they dooo

I should grab one and bring it back to base for decor

[naive cedar]

Kyanite deposits, I was scared of the shadow so i only ever found the small little pieces around

except when i had to beat the game

[rugged meadow]

while nickel is not used for a lot of things, one thing I find little frustrating about them is they are hard to spot so to have a minable ore from which you can get enough for the whole game is good.

but then again the places the ores would be located would be so deep that you would need nickel to craft depth modules for prawn in order to reach there to begin with

[steel shoal]

You can find a lot of nickel in Lilypads, and Seamonkeys can bring it for you

[tacit comet]

The Prawn can access nickel without any depth modules

[rugged meadow]

yeah I know. that place is good for nickel. it's just hard to spot them at times but a minor thing either way

[steel shoal]

There's an accessibility setting to make them glow, in case you're having trouble spotting it

[tacit comet]

Scanner room also helps

[steel shoal]

But yea, that's the thing with nickel. It's so small and blends well

[rugged meadow]

Scanner room is a godsend

[violet tangle]

squid sharks are cool

[tacit comet]

they are

[steel shoal]

I agree so much

[violet tangle]

ay we got some based peeps here

[tacit comet]

Indeed

very fancy goobers

[violet tangle]

[rich crown]

For what is used nickel

[rugged meadow]

in one of my saves ||my trivalves followed me to Allen's ship at the very end and we left the planet together, they do never stop following you.||

[tacit comet]

Mostly for some late game vehicle upgrades

[rich crown]

Ok thanks

[tacit comet]

ofc

[drifting finch]

Hello

[fluid mulch]

hi

i have both games :D

[eternal garnet]

[fluid mulch]

ty ig :D

[drifting finch]

One time I was exploring the crystal Caves in my sea truck, all of a sudden I got jumpscared by the Shadow leviathan.

[fluid mulch]

oof

[knotty coyote]

My friend's constructor working with no battery :3

[fluid mulch]

i only play creative since im bad :<

[drifting finch]

It came out of nowhere, literally snuck behind me

[fluid mulch]

oki i go now

bye bye ^w^

[knotty coyote]

Byeee

[eternal garnet]

Um, this is a mistake. Do a custom game instead, with story. Creative has story turned off. This is really sad

You can turn off eating, oxygen, freezing

resources too if you like

[dapper meadow]

Fun fact: All the code for the Seamoth is still in BZ

It's just textureless and has the title Placeholder instead

Here it is in all its Seamoth glory

[eternal garnet]

shiny, to say the least

[steel shoal]

You forgot to mention that it explodes if you hit it with your truck

[dapper meadow]

This is what it looks like on the inside

[eternal garnet]

it will not dock, the moon pool was edited to take the truck instead

[dapper meadow]

Yeah

Anyways it'd probably be quite easy for any would-be modders to reimplement the Seamoth

[steel shoal]

If the hatch is above the surface and you leave, gravity will become optional

[eternal garnet]

oh yes. fun time

[dapper meadow]

Oh that is fun

update

i'm flying

[eternal garnet]

fairly new command: "fly". it edits what jump does

[steel shoal]

I think it only allows you to jump again before touching the ground

[dapper meadow]

It lets you hold space to fly

[eternal garnet]

yes

[dapper meadow]

Anyways are there any mods that add the Seamoth back to BZ?

[steel shoal]

Not that I know of

[white forge]

My army grows. The Rock Puncher army will feel my wrath.

[viral knot]

god damn how did these vines grow so big

mine never did lol
am i doing something wrong

oh

[chrome cedar]

Need a double stack containment for them to reach full height.

[viral knot]

thats og sn lmaoo i just saw this

[viral knot]

nah bro we got heavy armor
you all got nothing on us🤝

[white forge]

:C

[amber hemlock]

Man, who polished your seamoth?

It's as bright as the sun

[next current]

So bright!

[fluid mulch]

too dark i cant see it

[vapid wing]

So I asked this in memes yesterday but what happen to Ice dragon?

I've heard the ice dragon was fully modeled and ready to be put into the game? So why did they cut it?

[fluid mulch]

no ice

[vapid wing]

yeah I know I was looking so forward to it

[fluid mulch]

where would it live

[vapid wing]

I don't know I'm asking

I guess maybe the void

[fluid mulch]

same

[left marsh]

I mean idk why it was scrapped but maybe it just didnt fit in with the theme of the game

[vapid wing]

I dunno I thought he looked cool

big guy that is basically a ice version of the lava dragon

[left marsh]

Ohh yea maybe it seemed to similar and unoriginal

[vapid wing]

See I kinda wished some of the stuff was recognizable

Like the ice reaper too

or the ice reefback

[next current]

Because the Deep Arctic was cut and they couldn't find a good place for it.

[next current]

Rip Crested Reaper.

[vapid wing]

Deep artic what was that?

[next current]

Rip Icebreaker.

[left marsh]

Again. Maybe too unoriginal and they wanted a largeer diversity in the fauna of 4546b

[next current]

A cut biome from the game.

[vapid wing]

oh

well that's a bummer

Now I'm curious what it was 😫

[next current]

They said that they want to use the model of the ice dragon in the future.

They being the devs.

[vapid wing]

wait really?

[eternal garnet]

that wasn't a promise

[vapid wing]

that is good news

[next current]

Yeah. No promises.

[vapid wing]

I hope we get him back

[left marsh]

Well you always have mods :)

[vapid wing]

I'm not very technical know how

downloading mods is complicated for me

[left marsh]

Ps4 player here 🥲

[vapid wing]

I also wanted to know something else

so what happened with the music?

There are two different composers for both games

I forgot their names hold on

[left marsh]

Ah that was something to do with uhh.. tweets and the guy getting fired

[vapid wing]

Simon Chylinski and Ben Prunty

wait what really?

I thought he just moved on to other things

like new games and stuff

[left marsh]

I talked about this the other day i think

Lemme find it

[vapid wing]

I liked Simon Chylinski music more because it felt more nostalgia

like Minecraft music and C418

[left marsh]

Yeah i cant find it but he tweeted something that was either racist or smth

[vapid wing]

oh

that's not good

[next current]

We don't really talk about that stuff.

[vapid wing]

oh my bad

[left marsh]

Mb.

[vapid wing]

I shouldn't bring it up

[stone orbit]

first containment unit is occupied by creatures found in the ||koppa site||, what do i put in my second one

[vapid wing]

my fault

[left marsh]

Nah its on me. Shouldnt have gone too far into it.

[vapid wing]

I was just curious about it too

and I brought it up first

[vapid wing]

woah it's red?

the fish I mean

is that a mod

[stone orbit]

no, theres always been a red variant

[vapid wing]

really

I guess I never notice

[left marsh]

Blue and a red. Both are fairly common.

[stone orbit]

he's my neighbor

[next current]

Nice depth module.

[vapid wing]

he is cool

but why is he there

he is usually in lily pads no?

[left marsh]

U should get afterburner upgrade

It’s helpful

[stone orbit]

i released him to put rock punchers in my tank

[vapid wing]

oh

I didn't know you could raise them and hatch them

[next current]

This is the second time in 3 weeks where I forgot that Rockpunchers lay eggs.

[stone orbit]

i remember being intimidated by rock punchers at some point

[vapid wing]

is afterburner the one that electrocutes the water around you?

[stone orbit]

then i just realized they're just little derps who walk around digging up useful stuff

[eternal garnet]

no, perimeter defense. Vital for dealing with leviathan attacks

[vapid wing]

oh cool

[next current]

Okay but actually they're kinda cuties.

[vapid wing]

yeah I use that from the first game

[stone orbit]

they're my favorite

[left marsh]

Afterburner gives extra speed for a couple of seconds

[stone orbit]

steroid lobsters with mace hands

[vapid wing]

oh like a car

like burnout right?

[next current]

I like their face thingies.

[vapid wing]

my favorite is the sea crocodile things

I forgot what they're called

they look like alien crocodiles

[stone orbit]

cryptosuchus?

[vapid wing]

yeah I think so

I don't know what they're called

[stone orbit]

the ones with scales and the beak right

[vapid wing]

they don't have a beak I think?

they just have lots of scales and teeth

[next current]

As a pure Florida man, I love them too.

[vapid wing]

I love Florida

home of the alligators

[next current]

That's a first. XD

[vapid wing]

nice beaches too

and lots of sunshine too

I wish I could ride one of those alien crocodiles

but I think it wouldn't let me do that

[stone orbit]

||now i have to search for this mind-infesting alien's facility in the fabricator caves god DAMNIT||

not me risking my safety in the caverns for six pieces of kyanite

ABSOLUTELY not

its a shame my prawn isnt currently suitable for these depths atm

[storm imp]

You have the zapper, just zap it

[eternal garnet]

note, don't zap until it attacks. No charge necessary

[tacit thorn]

Tip: you can store small fish in aquariums, so they dont breed like crazy and fill whole tank.

[gritty tundra]

i found a portal in a lab, do i do anything with it?

just scanned it and got 0 dialogue

[cobalt hound]

anyone know where to get the habitat builder?

[gritty tundra]

might be wrong but the fragments may be in the kelp caves?

been a while since i got it but it's not too far from spawn

[cobalt hound]

ive been exploring for awhile and havent found any

[gritty tundra]

oh wait sorry they're in the twisty bridges

i think at one of the "tech sites" where there's crates and usually some pda

[cobalt hound]

ive found one of them but i havent found another

i found one with the rebreather but thats it

another one, nothing here tho