#below-zero-chat
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Never built what thing?
Neptune
Ohh
It's boring to build ngl
Well then you should understand what I was referring to
The bridges are the Sea emperors tentacles
🤯
Twisty Bridges have lots of barnacles, imagine if we could break them like the Reefback barnacles...
Oh cool
Nice little feature they missed there
Uranite
Making each of them interactive would be really bad for performance
You were the one who just put the idea in our heads
That's like saying making 2 doors interactive would be bad for performance :_
There are a lot of barnacles
😐
Not 2 doors, but maybe 2000
Maybe reduce the amount of barnacles on the tentacles that way it doesn't hit your console as hard as it would now
And add the gargantuan leviathan while your at it so it evens out
Honestly the gargantuan leviathan is cool I must admit
Would be cool but it's likely extinct
Does the aquariam module hatch eggs?
The more you think about it, the sillier it gets
Well it is but what if it wasn't what if one was still swimming around out there in the endless depths and dangerous agony that is the void
Doubtful
Still feeding on ghost leviathans
They've been extinct for at least 3 million years
It was the only apex leviathan class creature to have existed
Except for 3 others that weren't as dominant and ruling as the other one and only went extinct to precursor interference
Sucks we only have the mod now
The aliens didn't kill anything, they were studying things
And the leviathans were put through harsh studying treatments and did you see the disease research facility? The leviathan that was trapped inside and would've lived if wasn't left in there
There are many leviathan apex predators, such as the ||Shadow, Ice Worm and Chelicerate||
Actually did you see all the dead baby sea emperors?
Oh yeah but the pda doesn't say so so maybe not
They tried their hardest to keep it alive
No they dissected and killed many baby sea emperors
An apex predator is a predator at the top of the food chain.
They accidentally killed 1.
Yeah but a apex leviathan has to be the top of its respected species and food chain
whay no?
And purposely killed like 2 others
There was only 1 corpse...
Yes look at the last containment facility with the Sea emperor innit
Tommyinnit
Please read the logs
I need to play through the game again
4 eggs 1 emperor 1 forcefully opened egg with one dead baby
So dragon, shadow, ghost levi, worm and chelicerate.
So not accidental
i didnt say so?
Dragon maybe not the Sea emperor would've beaten them
Ghosts aren't predatory when they're adults
The void
Emperors aren't predatory either
They are top of known void food chain
Damn
yeah they're territorial but not predatory
the ghosts
They are filter feeders, that's the same as whales. They can kill predators that swim nearby, but don't hunt them.
Ok I need to play through the game again
Nah playing through the game is the best gaming experience of my life I loved it
Pretty tragic, like failing at 99% of a Geometry Dash level
Well one of the best
I hate that
I'm stuck on clutterfunk right now
And also was the one that was frozen in BZ predatory?
Forcefully and on purpose opened egg, but accidentally killed baby. They tried to get it out alive.
Looks like a carnivore
Oh yeah it does have sharp teeth for ripping through flesh
And claws
For holding on to its prey
They couldn't figure out how to open the eggs?
It was, but we have no info about its lifestyle. Could be an apex predator, or could be just a regular predator in a significantly larger ecosystem.
yeah but its kinda weird. how would it fit into the food chain?
The BZ story explains why
but its not even that old, it has kharah
It's 1000 years old, or less
Probably far up there considering BZ's leviathans
It's been frozen for 300 years?
I think that's what it says
99% of all life is gone. Large predators would be the first to disappear.
Kharah was infesting that planet since its birth
Or when the precursors came along I forgot
It was brought by the aliens for research
And then a sea dragon felt like doing a funny and here we are
1000 years ago, there was a breach. We know what caused it, but BZ explains the aliens' reaction
Wait so how did the leviathans have enough time to evolve, to produce the specific enzyme for curing khara?
||Unable to communicate with the Emperor (for reasons you find in BZ), they had to study the eggs to find the hatching enzymes. After failing at forcefully opening one, they decided to study on a different, yet relative species, to make sure they wouldn't destroy any more eggs. While researching the dragon egg, the facility got hit, and all fish inside were instantly euthanized. But 1 specimen left, leading to the deployment of the warpers, and the activation of the QEP|| Does this make sense?
Yes but I already knew that from my past research done on this game
The enzyme is used by the fish for different purposes, I think digesting and curing diseases. They were lucky that it also cured Kharaa
It cures this specific disease
And possibly many more
Probably 4546B diseases and parasites
Doesn't cure cancers
The scientists had more hope in Kharaa than in the enzyme
The diseases were probably closely related and had a similar DNA and molecular structure to the kharaa disease and that's why this enzyme helped fix it
Although kharaa did kill 42B architects so it was a really deadly disease to be exposed to for a small and large amount of time
Kharaa evolved too quick for the aliens to synthesize a cure
Well they were close
They were on the right path
If I just don't answer the radio for sunbeam will they just not come until I answer the radio? I think it's hardcoded in there that it doesn't act on it till activated I just want to be sure.
I think if you don't activate it you can save them
Well not save intentionally but still save them anyway #subnautica-chat if you wanna go talk about Sunbeam
You can either
Postpone listening to the radio all together, until you’re ready to do the ||cure and turn off the gun||
Or you can listen to radio messages until you get your first message from Avery Quinn (captain of ||Sunbeam||) and I’d stop listening there, until the same thing, you ||obtain cure and turn off the gun||
yeah, the only issue I have is that since it is so large I am only getting like 20fps and it takes 30 seconds to a minute for it to place an additional piece
My goal was to have the biggest base, not to break the game
Is it worth getting the ultra oxygen tank?
Long term probably yeah
I just found a red creature egg with a black tip that takes 4 slots is it worth keeping?
Yes
Alright
Once you hatch it, release it near your base, it'll stay around
Oo so like a cuddle fish?
I'm currently heading back to the ||Arctic Spires|| on foot to retrieve the Snowfox after an unfortunate ice worm incident.
Take prawn
Man why won’t this mf give me a marker
I need to know what to do
That's a great idea, but I'm playing this game without the Prawn suit.
I’m not about to spend 20 minutes looking for 4 gold pieces for a couple ||ion power cells||
Ah makes sense ig
Take thumpers maybe?
Can someone tell me if i should explore more? ||I'm at some red crystal cave and i just found the last architect body part but i don't have any food and my hunger is at 25||
I managed to reach the Snowfox, and it's still intact and above the terrain.
Anyone know how many leviathans in total there are in BZ?
Including the vent gardens and anything else that is leviathan class
There are five species, as well as the juvenile variant of the ventgarden and the void chelicerate.
The glow whales are included, so quite a few.
I need gold does anyone know where I can find some?
Ignis, do you know if the supply crate has a spawn ID?
They don't have techtypes, the supply crates aren't one thing.
What I mean is that it isn't a specific object that will eventually spawn a bottle, a battery, a first aid kit, a nutrient block, a flare or a powercell.
There are separate objects without techtype.
So you can't, say, create an empty one for base decoration purposes, then.
You may spawn a normal crate with StarshipCargoCrate, I don't know if this techtype is assigned to a specific object.
But they aren't supply crates.
Maybe you can grab them with the propulsion cannon / propulsion cannon arm.
I'm fairly sure you can move them with a propulsion cannon, but I was just curious as to whether you could create more.
Thank you!
So in total that makes 7 leviathans in total? One less than the base game
I don't know if I ||should count the frozen leviathan since it doesn't specify if it's dead? And leviathans can live for quite a long time, sea dragons and emperors are proof of that.||
The ||frozen leviathan|| is very much dead, as confirmed by the developers.
Sorry not a reliable source only my PDA can tell me what to do
And ||Al-An||
Sometimes ||Maida||
Do you count chelicerate and void chelicerate as separate? Ghost and void ghost? What are your criteria?
I do count void chelicerates and chelicerates as separate leviathans
And I'm not counting ghosts right now until the final list for total leviathans from both games
Floaters...
They get pretty big but I don't know if I'd exactly count them leviathan
And should I include Submodica?
Probably not I think I'll stick to vanilla for now
I'm not counting dead
It has to be alive today
So that rules out the ||frozen leviathan|| I suppose
Totally forgot about the ||sea emperors|| though both their juvenile and adult variants
So base game actually has 10 not 8
BZ only has 8
I don't know how you count. ||Sea emperor, sea dragon, ghost leviathan, reefback, sea treader, reaper||.
You're forgetting their juveniles variants, they may not be as big as adults but their still leviathan class
It doesn't really make sense to separate them.
Even in the databank the ghost has a separate entry but that is not the case for the reefback for instance, so.
It is the fact that the juvenile ghost and the adult ghost are seperate entries that I'm separating them all. I'm not going to cherry pick just because a the juveniles don't have entries.
Plus you'll always have one person whose like "what about the juveniles"
And even though they're still leviathan class I'm not counting dead leviathans and I'll still have at least one person be like "what about the dead ones? They may be dead but they're still leviathan class!"
As for BZ entries the vent garden is also separate entries I believe
What if, and hear me out, you don't count anything because numbers are a government construct to make us pay more taxes?
And in total there are 8 entries
||1. Glow whale 2. Juvenile glow whale 3. Vent garden 4. Juvenile vent garden 5. Chelicerate 6. Void Chelcicerate 7. Ice worm 8. Shadow leviathan||
Absolutely genius observation simply astute as ever
This leviathan tier list I've been cooking up is now scrapped in favor of tax evasion
There is no juvenile glow whale.
I like the BZ leviathans more
||Chelicerate, glow whale, ice worm, shadow leviathan, squidshark, ventgarden.||
6 as well. :þ
I swear I've seen baby glow whales before
In your alien containment maybe.
Do Squidsharks actually hunt whales? Or is that lore-only?
Squidshark is big but NOT a leviathan class and you're forgetting juvenile vent garden
And I'm counting the void chelicerate I don't care
Also I agree
Squidshark is in Carnivores tab but the PDA calls it leviathan-class. Void Chelicerates are included in the Chelicerate description.
Again I don't count the babies as a separate species.
And indeed according to the PDA the squidshark is one.
Anyways I'm putting the tier list on pause anyways
You don't care, but we do 🫶
I don't really care.
Every fish is worth a little bit of our heart
It's their list they do whatever they want.
Actkully if I didn't care technically I wouldn't count them all like you're saying ☝️🤓
But you were the one who said you didn't care
Screw it everything goes on the list now
Arrow rays are tasty
Leviathan class for everyone and everything
They're the Reginald equivalent
We're growing 'em big today
Okay but back to what you said earlier
About BZ leviathans being your favorite
I whole heartedly agree and oddly enough it's the leviathans that aren't actively trying to kill me that I like the most
Bring an aquarium module, drive to one and stop piloting. Free leviathan observatory
Glow whales are goated definitely one of my favorites, the vent garden is incredible and probably my favorite leviathan ever, it's a close tie between that and the seatreaders from the first game.
Probably my top 3 right there
I do really like the ||shadow leviathan too, it looks like a stealth jet||
Well not exactly "free" I still gotta get materials and build it
Ventgardens are a little underwhelming, would love it if the Dead Zone surrounding the Tree Spires had juveniles and adults in the distance, swimming around
Oh and synthesize blue prints
Maybe but they look very cool
I forgot where I left it but I had an image of a vent garden floating out of water
Looked like a UFO 🛸 😳
I don't see they hunt whales in the entry.
It says "larger, slower targets" though.
Well, that's pretty much all there is
But in the code they are shark, and the ventgarden and the glow whale don't have a specific category.
What is categorized as whales in this game are the jellyfish and the titanhole fish.
Okay, so... do Squidsharks hunt Glow Whales in specific?
I need help finding the final parallel processing unit fragment
Okay how did ||Margeurit survive Kharaa?||
She just ate tons of ||enzyme host peepers.||
She's just built different
Didn't she also ||eat a lot of Reaper Leviathan meat||
Reapers probably ate something that ate a bunch of enzyme peepers probably eating enough for a certain period of time or that
She's got plot armor without being the MC
She made her own plot armor
She has coolness armour too cool for the bacteria
The ||Reaper also ate tons of enzyme peepers.||
||Marguerite|| is her own plot armor
She's made of the stuff.
She was sick and coughing and had blisters on her skin, 10 years before Aurora
Part is in the ||crashed ship and the other is where the pilot is||
True
The enzyme the peepers had a weaker version of the enzyme that didn't cure, but delayed the infection
She ate so many she lasted till sea emp got to her presumably at some point they did because no water animal has it
Btw gamers. Can we all agree that ||she got the blueprint for her Prawn Suit from the Mercury II bow?||
||I think she salvaged one, and didn't build a new one. But it definitely came from there.||
I'm not saying you're wrong but that would mean ||she would be taking parts from a Prawn Suit that is 20-90 years old. And she does have rusted parts to a MVB in her base...||
What would happen if you triggered the scene where ||margaret confronts you in a prawn suit||, but you are also wearing a prawn suit?
I doubt that you can
What’s stopping me? Just don’t go there until you get the prawn. It CAN walk on land
Would it just remove the trigger, or would there be a different animation, or would the game just snap into a million pieces trying to comprehend this
Okay I did it I started BZ.
Nice 👍
It won't work indeed.
I was thinking about pinging you
I just saw a video about it
At some point in early access it worked, but it messed up the camera on Robin.
It won’t work
Cool
Is he counted as one even if “only” the text says it but they are under the category of big carnivores? That’s what I was wondering when I read their entry
@summer jewel
Oh sorry that’s one message I overread
Somehow my aquarium module (remember you use enamelled glass to build them) broke after I bumped into it a couple times because it wouldn’t attach to my seatruck
Literally touched it 4 times and boom
You need to go back a little, and then attach it
PDA classses squidshark as leviathan class?
Oh ye it says something like low end levitathon class or smthn
Bad fuel, but yes
My sister used to kidnap penglings and shove them in a fridge
So i cant ask that but u can ask what i dis in ‘99
Who hasnt done that
I had a whole colony
Me 🤯
Yk with that aquarium module I was gonna leave my truck under a place where penglings usually spawn and catch them for my bioreactor
You havent played Bz properly then. Its a serious part of the story (ofc not)
And now I’ve got to make another one
Bruh
anyone wanna play and hanout in vc? would be nice to chat with ppl while playing
haha yeah
awe darn
Im trying to 100% dont seem that hard.
currently trying to make a nice base
Subnautica is pretty easy when it comes to achievements, there are no hidden ones
PS4 trophies being hidden:
This is my main base
I'm making another one in the most dangerous and inconvenient place ever, I have like almost 30 chairs already ✨
It's not as good, I'd love to put more plants around this one
omg i love it
Is it completely RNG if a Creepvine spawns with a set of glowing seeds?
But that’s a really cute base
Don’t they always glow..
no it depends on if you grow the clusters or the wine itself
They always glow, but only a bit, you need to have a lot of Clusters at once
Wait really…..
Samples never glow
Wine?? What u talking bout
I’ve always grown the wine and was wondering why it doesn’t glow
pretty sure thats how it works
Vine*
Ahh ok
I’ve cut so many Creepvine and put their samples back in, in hope they start glowing LMAO
Rip
Im so scared with below zero. I keep on getting murdered by this big scary fish everytime I go in deep water.
Build the truck I guess
You can plant either seeds or cut piece of vine. if you plant seeds, a fully functional vine grows and makes more seeds. if you plant clipping, it will grow, but not give seeds. Also,m they need 2 perfectly stacked containment units to grow inside base.
am i crazy or is ||al-an's voice|| in a jukebox song. and if it is does it mean anything or is it just for fun
speaking of the jukebox i would really like to be able to listen to more songs
on PC, it can play mp3s
Sry for the off-topic but your room (profile background) looks really cool and comfy
THANKS SO MUCH 😄
testing it right now!
IT WORKSSSSSS
Now what kinda music are ur fish gonna hear lmao
well so far i only got one song lmao and its Angel - Martin Jensen, jayover, Chrish
is there anything stopping me from using the prawn suit on land in the arctic spires to evade ||ice worms|| and ||snow stalkers||?
no
sweet
status update: im rich
Did you find all the discs?
nvm
probably not but being able to add the songs I like is really good because shuffling the same 6 songs is starting to burn out on me haha
you can add songs in the game files i think
Anyone else think the ||Shadow Leviathan|| is cute? (Late game leviathan)
Cute isn't the term I would use; it's certainly majestic, intimidating, and awesome in the truest sense of the word.
The eyes are what make it cute to me.
yeah, the... ahem, ||the mouth/stomach|| is certainly NOT cute, but ignoring that, I think it is cute.
It's certainly one of my three favorite leviathans in the game, along with the chelicerate and the ice worm...
Not as cute as the ||Sea Dragon|| from the last game. Their big dumb goofy smiles make my day
ok I can see that, but I respectuflly disagree with who is cuter.
What do you think is the cutest of the small prey fish? I would have to vote for the triops, though the red feather fish qualifies as well.
Between both games, hands-down the hoverfish from base Subnautica.
What about in Sector Zero?
Oh, I was thinking of edible fauna, but both the sea monkey and the trivalve are fantastically adorable.
oh.
Have you ever raised a sea monkey baby?
I see. Do you plan to get it in the future?
not right now.
Well, if/when it makes sense for you to get it, I would recommend it.
This isn't the sole reason, but sea monkey babies are very, very cute.
I already found ||Margaret|| and got a lot of stuff from ||Delta Station.||
You started Below Zero? How are you liking it so far?
I already figured it's a really small map. I started out in every direction from the pod to discover. There's no place I feel uncomfortable and this one leviathan makes a funny sound when follows. Next step build MVB and Seatruck.
And a habitat builder.
I miss a bit the spookiness and special feelings of subnautica.
The map is small, but very detailed. It is certainly less scary then Subnautica.
Well since I knew what I needed in the first minutes I got a head start. When you know SN you already know the basics.
There's a glow whale stuck inside one of the ||Lilypad Islands||...
I found the map and I somehow picked up a pengling and have to figure out what do to with him. I don't care about spoilers otherwise I wont be here but I want to figure things out by myself. I have to admit I had watched speedruns of BZ already.
best way to play bz is blind
You can't really do anything with penglings other than keep them in aquariums or raise them into pengwings in an alien containment unit.
story means everything for bz
Blindfolded I'm afraid I will spill my tea 😉
british
No german but I like tea in winter.
I have 500+ hours in SN I do always 100% runs so I like story and will get them all.
Guys I think my date stood me up, she told me to meet on an iceberg at her greenhouse but I can’t find her or her greenhouse
did you find it, up on the berg?
XD
I can only find a hole that leads into the iceberg
And there’s just creature eggs in there
ok. Use the delta beacon. the berg is 1130m east of that, and also south a tiny bit. If you find the satellite, scan that then go next island south-east
Delta station dock?
yes
I’ve played BZ before SN and BZ rarely made me feel uncomfortable, only in deep caves, but SN already makes me feel uncomfortable pretty much right at the start
BZ is not really about fear and unease, it's much prettier
I spoke to her and grabbed the two pdas what do I do next?
Yep I realized that and I liked that a lot
Well what did she say to you?
Note that you got a (very OP) salad recipe that you can grow indoors. ||The greenhouse finishes Marges storyline, but it ties into Sam's. Now you can scan stuff in marges kitchen and bathroom, and there's a PDA with her reaper story.
Go find and optionally cure the frozen leviathan. Phi map: the radio mast in the west. Find the PDA (Security Recording) in the blue rubble of the explosion next to a buried forklift, with the audio||
sorry for FAQ response
I doesn't seem the leviathans are after the seatruck, are they?
not parked, no
Talking about sealing a cave off but idk where the cave is
it's in my spoiler above. click it
And how convenient you spawn in your Seatruck. I accidently died didn't watch my oxygen.
Does entering a Seatruck save your inventory?
yes
Except for the sneak attacks from shadow levitatian
They’re frenly
My bestest frens.
I’ve killed them more on accident then they’ve killed me on purpose
Oopsie daisies
I'm stuck
Hi stuck, would you like to give us some more details?
Like
I don't know what to do next
Like
I'm stuck
Read the PDAs you got from the bases, and check the maps. Also, you can explore the area around the artifacts you get as you play, and try to pick up on the hints you get. ||There is an artifact in the purple vents, with some weird fossils, it is very important||
so, your progress? Begin with body part blueprints, bottom of blueprints
Oh yeah the mapp i forgot to check if there's stuff there
Ty ty
Happy exploring
Is that one really more important than the others?
Does the PDA entry have anything to do with ||the shiny place||?
No
But the location is good
The PDAs I referred to were the voice logs that will lead you to the other part of the story
I thought the ||fossil artifact|| itself was important, but it's just where it is located.
The East Arctic has quite a few icebergs that would be good locations for bases...
yooo just finished subnautica (BZ), every achievement except crafting a snowfox
because lets be honest prawn suit is much better than snow fox
Yes. Yes itbis
Idk, I like the snowfox for certain areas
I disliked it because prawn suit on land feels so good to use
Choices are good, that way everyone can be happy🙂
There's something very enjoyable about the Snowfox to me.
Personally it seemed cool as a concept but wasnt that nice to use
I can carry it in my pocket for one, and then just take it out when I need it
Wait you can pick it up?
Yeah
3x3
I mean i dont see how thats any better..
Well if I’m going through areas with ladders and such, I don’t have any worries about messing with the prawn, but that’s not the real reason, I just kind of like it
If you give it a quick slot, you can change the battery as well.
By the way, it turns out that the battery the Snowfox seems to use is the second one from the front, as it's visible as missing when removed.
Each to their own
O.o I never thought about doing that, cool!
Someone here taught me that, actually. This means that you can use an ||ion battery|| for it, which I intend to do.
I’d heard there was a way, just never knew exactly how
The dock only allows you to charge it
Yeah it’ll repair it as well. Although you can use repair tool on it when it’s on the ground
What do you mean?
I have the first parts for ||AL-AN|| but can't find Diamonds 😦 Don't tell I will figure it out by myself.
It doesn't let you swap batteries
No, but you can do that when you have it in a quick slot...
One thing I really enjoyed was how easy to get all the materials for these story things were. I've found myself crafting multiple hydraulics and antidotes, because they were so cheap...
"there's no way I only need one of them"
(sometimes, I didn't even need them, I'd get them for free)
Raw materials feel harder to get. You have to swim around a lot to get table corals and I had to search for this battery plants.
Compared to the abundance of table coral in the Safe Shallows, it's a lot harder to find and less numerous than in Sector Zero.
When you know SN you're used to have basic things around you at your start.
Raw materials are only hard to get until you realize where to find everything. Then you realize the only thing that’s a bit rare is lead since there’s no large deposits
Why they did that I have no idea (no large lead deposits)
I hate getting lead 💔
Lead are there more purpose for this material than in SN. I already have a Locker of it.
I learned today that you can also break table coral off by hitting it with a Seatruck.
I've cleaned an entire biome from galena outcrops
When you left your knife it's a good sulution. 😄
Lead is used for a lot more crafting than in Subnautica
So... much... lead...
I always bring almost all of my tools with me, including things like the laser cutter.
Don't forget the test override module...
Yes I have my basic equipment with me. But I don't really know how useful is this metal detector. found those metal caves by myself.
The mineral detector is fine
Helps with finding singular pieces quickly, but its range is quite low
I didn’t like the handheld detector, but some like it just fine. Whatever works for you is what matters
I first have to get this module.
I was searching for silver and it never showed anything. So I put it away. Later I found a small cave with silver and gold pieces nearby.
I cleared whole map 🤣
Scary
I started like I finished with SN... I take every piece I can get. But need finally the large room to build a sufficient storage for my needs.
One large room is everything you need.
We will see subnautica I prefer to have 3 large rooms for my purposes.
I like base building.
oh, the one large room is just for storing the loot.
yeah true... one large room storage.
aim at wall, must be not occupied by window
It looks weird like it’s backwards but if the hologram is green, it’s placed correctly
Does anyone have a list of what fauna can and cannot be picked up again after they're released from an alien containment unit?
I would think whether you can pick it up or not, is not changed by having been raised by you
You can pick up titan holefish after releasing them...
that's weird
I think the same goes for eye jellies, glow whales, and rock punchers (though I need to check again), but not for pinnacarids, brinewings, or arctic rays.
A bug, pickable fishes are the ones that are usually pickupable.
I just tried and I can't pick up the titanhole fish after I release it.
But I don't doubt your claim. I just believe you had a bug.
Ngl I kinda forgot that you can find and hatch Rockpunchers.
I thought you couldn't either, but I just needed to avoid the areas that allow you to replenish oxygen.
I tried around them.
Well, there are worse bugs to have...
Do bugs like that tend to be consistent within a game, or are they unpredictable?
I have one more question that I hope you might be willing and able to answer: how much damage, if any, does a lightning strike do?
It depends what causes it, if it's a race condition it might be difficult to reproduce.
The lightning does 30 damage. But I don't remember if you can be struck.
I remember you could at some point, when you could have them on Delta.
Thank you for both answers... what exactly is a race condition?
I remember that people said you could be struck in the past, but yeah idk if you could be still
A situation where something occurs at an undesirable time.
For instance, something that reads the permission of a file and later opens it. If you can somehow changes this file to another one after the first check of the permission has been done, the program will open it with its permissions and you could have access to something you aren't supposed to.
Or the world streaming bug. We have never found a fix for it, because (1) it doesn’t cause a flag on the internal monitoring software (or something of that nature, I don’t understand all that stuff but Ignis I’m sure does), and (2) once the issue has started to occur, it’s too late to do anything to read the data, because the game is stuck and it’ll get caught in a save loop, and you can only force quit which destroys any evidence of what caused the issue. I’m sure I’m not explaining it best, but in order to be able to fix something, you need reproduction steps. And there just aren’t any for the world streaming bug sadly
Just curious what occurs with a world streaming bug?
I only know what it looks like. Fish disappear, land then will disappear, it just doesn’t look right
I can show a pic if I can find it
I don't think they still use Sentry anyway. The error reporting.
I got it on-stream
And managed to get it fixed
Without corrupting the save
I'll get you the vod
Very distinctive once you’ve seen it happen
These were from my phone because I was on PS4 at the time but you get the idea
The game just stops streaming the content into the game, fish, terrain, etc
Or it’s bugged or something, I’m not sure exactly how the term is applied
https://www.youtube.com/live/if3EYwi0hX0?si=wFNpVmDATTqOVp3j&t=7563 It starts at 2:06:03, it was very scary
Andy Landy sweet like Candy
In the first place it looks familiar but when you have closer look it looks off. Yes now I can imagine how it looks like.
Thank's Andy
The biome doesn't have its signature fog color, and there was no fauna/flora/particles
it’s just all empty
You can't tell which biome it is. After clicking save, the game will load everything, one thing at a time. After a long time, things started appearing quickly, and it successfuly saved.
I know exactly where that is, there should be a lot of stuff there that isn’t
It came back while the game wrote the save file?
They were very slowly appearing, but when saving it started showing up quickly
Still, one at a time
You can see the cotton anemones popping individually, until there's a large bush of them
Quickly? It's more like an eternally watching single things pop up out of nowhere.
Relatively quickly. Going from 1 entity per minute to 1 entity per 10 seconds is nice
Is this a common issue in BZ never heart of this bug before?
The first save took 19 minutes, but when I got to the place, there were no fish, and no cache. I then tried to quit without saving, but it took 13 more minutes until doing it.
It is a rare, but well known issue.
Okay hope it won't appear in my first playthrough.
It is also a very scary one, and there might be no fix, even if they go back to bugfixing the games
You can't fix what you can't tell the issue... when it happens like Master of Tomes and Ignis said.
This bug is probably fixed.
Really?
Actually never mind I don't think the SN fix was backported.
If it's the same thing.
It's difficult to tell if it's the same thing, but I see that the fix for a similar issue I found in SN1 isn't in the current build.
Artyom said this world streaming bug used to happen in Subnautica, but idk how it was fixed. Apparently, due to other fixes done to BZ, it’s thought the world steaming bug is mostly fixed as a byproduct of other stuff done (other fixes) but it’s not 100% gone, in other words there have still been isolated reports I think. But it’s never been a widely reported issue, which contributed to the issue of being able to reproduce it (and can’t fix what can’t be reliably reproduced). So we settle for it being (thankfully) a rare occurrence, and if people notice it happening, DON’T SAVE, FORCE QUIT your game
as often said, to live with this bug on high risk devices, save often
That’s great advice no matter💯
But of course
What are high risk devices?
Windows?
I know it's not rare on PS4. Not sure actually
There are anecdotes it happens more on low framerates
I've never experienced this, but I've seen it happen to a friend.
crazy that titanium ingots are twice cheaper in bz. i assumed they were the same and kept getting confused about all the titanium still in my inventory
also strange to find stuff like crystallized sulfur and nickel so easily
Well crystalline sulfur in bz is more like cave sulfur in subnautica
yeah, was surprised to find it in the crashfish plant
well that was quick, i just finished the game in only 12 hours
It happened over the years for different reasons.
I know how that one was fixed in SN1. It was fixed because I made a video about it when I succeeded to trigger it.
And later I talked to Slava so I know why it happened.
how long does it take Void Chelicerates to spawn?
my only regret is that when i explored i found things to soon and when i didnt explore i finished alan and then didnt get the dialogue i normally would have gotten
3 seconds for the first one, then 40 seconds each for the next two.
How do I get diamonds for ||Mark depth 1 Seatruck||
I've noticed they're ||much more deeper than the seatruck already goes, and the youtube tutorials go too the deeper ones, so I can't access them||
Deep twisty bridges: drive seatruck to 145m and use seaglide to go deeper. Make sure you have rebreather and high capacity tank (both databoxes can be found in twisty bridges canyon, around 140-180m) and keep eyes open for oxygen plants.
Another option, koppa mining site: drive seatruck to the doors, proceed with seaglide and again look for oxygen plants and keep your rebreather and high capacity oxygen tanks on.
Possibly one more option|| if you have Al-an: pin a recipe and go see monkeys||
And of course there's always option to build air pump and pipes or multiple oxygen tanks or carry several air bladders or bladderfish to have more oxygen for deeper dives
hi, my snowfox has fallen into the ground. What should I do ? (I want to keep achievement enabled)
I think there’s a spot on it you can grab it from
I'll try but it is around 50 meters under the ground
Simply build a new one, no chance of getting it back (or if you have not saved, go back to the last save game).
And if I use commands, will achievements be enabled after a reboot of the game ?
If you save after, no.
oh my god you can pick up rockgrubs 
Have you found ||the mine||? Search near the entrance, follow the lights outside
what am i taking damage from im literally standing in my truck
They can be bred in alien containment, but can't be placed in an aquarium.
Have you ever realized how vast an oxygen plant is? The bulb at the top is over a meter in diameter.
Man i keep dying due to hypothermia
There are several ways to stay warm
Where are you? There are a lot of options for warmth, including food, caves, steam vents, equipment, and vehicles.
Coffee, peppers, lantern fruit, heat vents, build a base, use a vehicle, go in a cave
Uhh this is my first time playing below zero
So the only veichle i have rn is a seatruck
omg - you can feed the penglings
Wait rly?
just hold fish out - and they'll eat it right out of your hand
Ah nice
You can feed brute sharks as well, if they're trying to attack you...
I was thinking about builidng a base but idk if i should build it in the water or on land
both
i'd put it on the edge of a ice shelf and hang it off the ice
Do you have any locations in mind? There are a huge number of great options.
I'm sure there are multiple, though I don't know of any in particular.
There is the map in Delta Station, though.
Ah i never found it
I once tried going far away searching for stuff on land and died to a rly long fish
If you're having difficulty with land exploration, may I suggest building at least a small land outpost? A larger main base elsewhere is a great idea as well, but this could give you a place to get warm and resupply.
Did this creature burrow out of the ice?
Was it grayish in color, with spiny jaws?
I think
Here’s a tip for land. Build an I Compartment and a hatch, pop inside and you’ll warm right up. Then deconstruct for use later.
It kills you in one bite
Especially if your PDA mentioned something about an ecological dead zone, that sounds like a void chelicerate. They're meant to keep you from leaving the map.
Ah. So does it go on forever or?
I think there's a limit that, when crossed, will teleport you back. That's how it works in Subnautica, at least.
||shadow leviathan destroyed my truck :(||
||i feel like the crystal caves are definitely important but i dont see how im supposed to navigate them.. this things Quick||
Defense module
Did you visit the old woman’s base?
yeah
Probably missed the important thing on the floor
Which idk why they have the thing on the floor to begin with, because it just makes it too easy for people to overlook
She didn’t have a truck so it was useless to her.
Also, she handles her own defense pretty well.
Funny thing that, it starts on top of a box, but after the scuffle with Preston, who knocks you down, it then ends up up on the floor
Never noticed that!
It’s little details like that which make the game that much more fun.
how can i add upgrades to a snowfox?
There's a small panel on the left side, but it only fits one module.
You can see it on top of the crate before you go through the door when Preston jumps you in this clip
found it, thanks
on that note, is there any way to add ion batteries/cells to a snowfox?
as far as i can tell the regular batteries arent good
If you pick it up and give it a quick slot, you can change the battery.
And like that the hoverpad is an power source independent battery charger.
It charges much faster than the typical battery charger as well, doesn't it?
I would say so too, the snowfox is repaired and ready in no time at all.
Whicever order you choose
||They become a pushover, minor inconvenience with the defense module, as soon as they get you into their grasp you just click and they go away||
||Crystal caverns becomes a very important place later on||
man its crazy how much silver and copper there is on land in the ore veins
You can find gold, magnetite, or lithium in some of them.
yeah but in the tunnels there is like 50 of both copper and silver its insane
Are these the ice worm tunnels in the ||Arctic Spires||?
yep
Is there any way to get into the blocked tunnels in the koppa mining site? Perhaps from an alternative side of the island?
They're impossible to access without console commands, and mostly unfinished.
ahhh. Ok. then I won't waste more time on them, especially with the problems I'm having with the game crashing.
But there are secret side entrances into Koppa mine, two in total. Its worth exploring those.
I did find one of them. I haven't found the other. My base is on the west side of the island, just above the one I know about.
There is one that ends just behind the main gate and one down in the mining pit.
I know about the one behind the main gate... Haven't found the one in the mining pit.
I may have to take my seatruck down there and do a more thorough search.
it ends behind one of those nets hanging from the ceiling. Just check those and you will find it.
How do you get in behind the nets?
That one is loose enough to get through. You will find it.
Ok, that's cool. I didn't know ||there was an entrance to koppa just off the delta station dock||
Incidentally, is there any real purpose to getting the snowfox? It seems mostly useless since it can't really evade the worms...
it's fun when not being chased by worms
Sure, but how often does that happen? 😉 Honestly, it would be more useful if it could skim the surface of the water.
no worms south of the bridge, and you have a thing to find bottom west
In the tree area
Yeah, this is my second play through.
I already have the ||precursor body|| parts, and have been to most places underwater.
Well, it's quite fast, and keeps you warm. You can also pack it up and go up ladders easily, unlike the Prawn suit. I think it gets damaged rather than you in an ice worm attack, and the repair tool works well.
Interesting I actually kind of stuck I guess I missed something on the previous places I was. I will go back to those Lilipad it was night I was there last time.
||The mine||? Where is that.
Check your map, it's near Delta
Okay, thanks.
I actually only build it for the achievement, used it 30 seconds and was really disappointed, never used again
I have it, but the prawn seems better in general.
The one issue I have with the prawn is that when trying to get out of it, you take some damage.
is there any way to fix the rubberbanding of the screen when you turn the snowfox?
it seems like a really fun vehicle but that one issue is nauseating
I feel you on that one. It's definitely screwy
where r the laser thing fragments i’ve found ||mercury 2|| but i don’t even have a laser cutter 😭😭
What depth is required to enter ||The caves where that shadow leviathan is||?
There are some in the ||Mercury II||, but they can also be found in the Twisty Bridges, though they blend in extremely well, and I believe in sea monkey nests.
idk specifically but like 2-3 hundred maybe??
okay thanks!
It's around 500+, I believe.
The Seatruck with a MK2 depth module can explore most of it.
Youch, I only have ||mk 1|| depth
Do you know where I can find kyanite btw?
Kyanite is only found in the ||Crystal Caves||.
Thanks
And another question, where can I get ||Spiral Plant Clipping||? For the MK2 upgrade
It's found in the ||Deep Purple Vents||, located underneath the smallest section of the ||Mercury II||, or ||inside one of the two mature Ventgardens||.
how do i access this area? i see tons of supply crates but i cant move this box away
ok i went outside, came back, and that same box is just gone LOL
not sure what the hell that was
I usually need to move the small ones first.
This was my first ever encounter with the ||Shadow Leviathan|| and I managed to scan it!
A bit silly, that one
get scanned idiot
didn't notice this post 😭 coincidence
i quit w/o saving after ||the shadow leviathan ate my truck|| but i just finished getting everything back (and found the defense module)
Just tried to scan the Ghost Leviathan but got killed
They might be dangerous?
subnautica 3 👀?
Subnautica 2? 
Mine was like this, also first encounter xD
funny stealth jet ignored you at first
how are you supposed to get to the ||architect artifacts||?? i have coordinate signals for ||x3j and q59|| but i can't find a path to either, are the cave entrances very far from the signals themselves?
i have already found the ||architect skeleton|| and ||an obelisk artifact in the deep twisty bridges||, both by randomly exploring
Sometimes the cave entrance can indeed be farther away from the beacon signal
In ||fabricator facility, deepest part of the map. Maybe worth getting all three blueprints and materials and build everything at the same time||
Save or use if you need them for something else
Explore. You won't get beacon signals to other body parts, but will get hints. If you scanned the map of Alterra facilities in Delta station, you have some places to look for. Compass helps to go in correct direction
My first encounter with ||the shadow leviathan|| caused me to go back on my save.
Is it worth getting the ultra high capacity tank?
Prawn suit + grapple arm + jump jet upgrade module you can just fly past them
I think I found the void
Then use a Seatruck
Preston's plant is planted like you would expect a plant with fruit to behave
There is nothing useful there, only chelicerates (similar to void ghost leviathans in the first game)
man where should i build my big base?
the lilypad biome is nice
like on the big floating rock formation?
What do you mean by they don’t respawn? @left marsh
Once killed leviathans will not respawn..
I know that’s why I felt really bad afterwards
I killed him after he invaded my safespace through following me to my base and not leaving
Ah ok i thought you meant you killed him and he invaded your aafe space afterwards.
How do you get the cold suit with out freezing to death 💀
Just use prawn suit to get to area
Pepper
prawn on land
Thermos gives heat too
Or salad
prawn on land is crazy broken
Okay prawn suit thanks 😊
Indeed
With grapple arm it is insanely quick
However since this is another subnautica game it can ofc fall through the ground randomly.
Walked through entire ||arctic spires|| without using grapple arm and only got 10 dmg at the end of the walk
guys why am i freezing underwater after exiting my base
go a little further down in the water
In water you freeze if you stay still, but not if you move
save and then go
yep!
did you not enter the cave on land?
its in the area by the trees by a tower
i think so
maybe a bit tilted to the right
not even ||grapple?||
To beat the game, you don't have to do much
But to finish the experience, you need to do a lot
where do i find table coral
twisty bridges
near the pod, south a little bit in the deeper areas, 50-100m, on the walls
thx
is there some way to break this? do i need the prawn or something? or is there a different way in
That's an exit / shortcut back. Opens from the other side. Ignore it. Go to the dock west
What's the place with the god of war symbol
you make me google god of war? Color?
Blue
That's greek letter Omega. So it's Omega base, hidden ||inside a big floating rock||
Oh wow, that's a way to call it...
nice
the weird back on it is where modules/rooms go
can you find all four prawn fragments at the ||mercury II||? i can only see three
no clue i usually get all mine from ||the brown outpost marked on the map||
you can also get them from the deep purple vents
wow
ok ill check there i would just hate to leave the ||mercury|| having missed something
There are only 3
ok 👍
Options for more prawn fragments also in ||phi robotics and outpost zero||
||There are 4 in Koppa, plus an upgrade||
Plus drill arm, which is also in ||Mercury wreck||
what's red bone shark thing
friend
is it really big
it tries to eat seatruck
thats your friend 👍 /joke
not going out of seatruck
it's a ||chelicerate|| if you don't wanna
If you have at least 1 module, you can stop piloting the Seatruck, it'll be the same as turning off the Cyclops engine.
Danger noodle on land is scary with prawn suit... Did over 50 damage to prawn in one hit😢
Yeah i was doing good dodging it till it bursted out under me
Also is it just me or is prawn suit 100 times easier to make now compared to Subnautica?
You get it much earlier
||mech woman||?
Yeah
will be fun searching for that
Or i think there is one in a vault thingy
thought i found it but it was ||blown up laboratory thing||
You want to know where she is?
will try to find myself
||building at like 200m depth with nuclear reactor fragment and outdoor garen bed||
It took me a bit to find her alone
Don't think I've found that yet. Where is it at?
close to ||lily pad things||
Ok
after
Yeah
i think
Lol don't know why I put spoiler on that😂🤣
What areas you explore so far?
You have sea truck and depth 2?
i have sea truck
Ok what about depth 2?
not even depth 1
i started playing 3 hours ago
Yeah i would give up on moon pool and ||Marg|| for now
Ok that makes sense
The upgrades are pretty easy to get honestly, at least early upgrades
||Sanctuary?||
||It's safe just bring sea truck to 190m then swim through|| high cap O2 tank gets you through dk about lower tier O2 tanks though
just got high cap o2
You play the game already before?
Head for ||sanctuary|| then
just installed
Go be a vault hunter, if ykyk
Also realtively close to the unfinished habitat with high capacity tank, is another small platform with rebreather databox, which helps deeper diving a lot
Spoiler
ye was there too
Minor but still spoiler
with ||crane||?
@gilded robin one small tip since you're nearing the point of exploration where you need to ||watch out for danger noodle of the water in purple vents and tree spires||
You will know what i mean if you see it
Also in ||koppa mining|| you can fit sea truck through the doors if you go to the top of them. Just a little tip for later
u can fit the sea truck in ||the mines?||
||"about a kilometer east of your location"|| ok im here. which iceberg .
Yes
But there's a gate that doesn't let you
There's a section that allows the Seatruck
ohh
seriously though is there like a visible light or something
nvm i think i see it
s
What are you looking for?
i found it, i was looking for ||marguerit's greenhouse||
Ah yeah that one is tough, I'm not quite there yet
Where is the ||ppu?||
||parallel processing unit||
||the fragments are in the mercury II wreck, there are three fragments throughout||
There are actually six parallel processing unit fragments in the ||Mercury II sections||, three of which require the laser cutter.
Ugh damn it are you serious, I've been able to do that this whole time?!
The laser cutter is still very useful, though.
That still just means all i had to do was make a laser cutter
And the only reason why I didn't was because I saw no need...
I've been trying to get to the ||crystal caves||
For ||kyanite|| for prawn upgrades
Just found the entrance at ||Marg's||
Descending in now, anything i should know before i unpause?
How difficult is it to get prawn out of the ||crystal caves|| ?
Levs don't respawn if you kill them right?
This is correct; very few aggressive creatures do.
Your pda should notify you about one thing worth knowing...
Yeah i already knew about the ||shadow levs|| they are freaking annoying!!
Also i went in for a while but had to leave because I got attacked, which that wasn't much just had to whip out the op repair tool, and i started to get a little low on food and water.
Didn't see a single freaking ||kyanite||
this game is going to give me a stroke
||Yup, went to the edge of the world?||
mhm
Yeah
and immediately regretted it
also how do i get to artifact Q59
It's no where near as bad as normal Subnautica tho
normal subnautica is 10 times scarier
||go through a cave on delta station I'm pretty sure||
Indeed
alright
Subnautica they just said throw the biggest creatures. in this they said throw a slightly more intimidating but less dangerous version of large pests.
The ||void chelly|| is actually quite a bit larger than the normal ||chelly||
i know
i just got ||Alan stuck in my skull ||
Oh so when it comes to the progress you just started
...
Also i don't really care much for the sea truck it's an attempt to take sea moth and mix it with cyclops and sadly its a bad attempt
But the whole idea is neat
Yup
awwh
I'm pretty sure
And if I'm being honest the vehicles might be a little to easy to craft
The only thing holding you back from getting vehicles is the blueprints
yeah
How many days are you in? Have you gone to ||delta station|| yet?
i have
And have you gotten depth 1 or 2?
||and i have gone to the old lady's sea base||
Oh so you have depth 2
||i have depth 2 upgrade on my seatruck||
Nice
Your gonna get prawn soon i have a pretty good feeling at least
You have lithium yet?
Okay nice now you gotta find ||koppa||
yeah ||koppa|| is something i have been confused of for a while
Yeah it's an ||alterra mining base||
If you go there you are set when it comes to scans for drill and prawn
alright
Also one tip ||seatruck can for through the door even though it's not supposed to it's helpful once you get the depth 2||
Do you have moonpool?
mhm
yes
Okay give me a sec to figure out my power sich and then I'll help, my base isnt producing power fast enough
Because its charging the prawn
okay
Thinking I'll make a nuke reactor
nuke?
Nuclear
oh i thought u were gonna blow up the ocean
Yeah no i was saying I'm dropping a nuke on ||marg's base|| lol
deserved
Lol
Especially after she pulled the stun with the custom prawn smh she did it to herself, i mean really it's her hands holding the nuke above her base rn
should be the next update
You think you are doing good when it comes to lithium, cause at the point you're at i was really hurting for it
bombs and genocide
Lol yes
