below-zero-chat

[bold monolith]

Custom mode.

[south wing]

Well I play on my steam deck and the game crashed so my 3 hours progress was gone so I just spawned a Seatruck. I mean not a big deal but that was why I didn’t get achievements tho?

[deep kettle]

Yeah.

Console commands disable achievements for that save file.

[eternal garnet]

too late now, but I would absolutely save more often

[bold monolith]

It depends you say you didn't get any. I'm pretty sure the first one is just going to your lifepod.

[south wing]

Nah I got like 5 but I didn’t get leave the planet

[bold monolith]

It's been a while.

[south wing]

For example

[bold monolith]

In custom mode you don't get achievements either.

[south wing]

I played survival

But that is a good thing to know, and yeah on my next playthrough I will probably save more often and just keep the console closed

[deep kettle]

I kind of wish it would confirm your action though. It's pretty logical it disables achievement as a result of using cheats, but it might not be obvious in the moment D:

Just a simple "You're about to disable achievements. Proceed?" and then yes or no 😛

[eternal garnet]

good idea. Custom game has this

or, at least converting game to custom does

[south wing]

Yeah, but I guess it’s not a big deal because I will probably rebeat it in the next month or so. Also I think there was a multiplayer mode, I might try that with a friend

[eternal garnet]

there isn't, for BZ. For SN1, it's PC only I think, and buggy

[deep kettle]

I doubt it will be changed anyway, development seems to have stopped right now for the current two games. I guess they just want to focus on the new one 🙂

[eternal garnet]

oh yes

[south wing]

Yeah I know about nitrox which was a mp for the first game, I have a pretty good experience with it. I think I saw a bz mp too tho

[deep kettle]

I thought I saw a message saying it was no longer being worked on? Or something along those lines I think.

I don't exactly remember though.

[south wing]

By the way is there going to be a new subnautica game?

[bold monolith]

I do it was something @eternal garnet said.

[deep kettle]

They are working on a new game yes. They didn't announce much yet.

[south wing]

Oh, I didn’t know that.

[south wing]

Good

[eternal garnet]

it won't be soon

[deep kettle]

So... Tomorrow? 😄

[eternal garnet]

Maybe later in the week

[vast idol]

I actually read logs while waiting for my battery to get recharged

[fervent bloom]

Once in a while, I sit down in a chair and read through them all.

I should re-read some of the creature scans.

[steel shoal]

I listen to the logs as soon as I get them

If you have all entries marked as read, and pick up a new log, when you open the PDA it'll automatically select it and play it

[fervent bloom]

Fair enough, but I prefer to get somewhere safe before I do.

Also, does the headlamp take the same slot as the rebreather?

[steel shoal]

I don't know, probably?

[steel shoal]

I like to listen to them as I explore

(listening =/= reading, I only read them when I'm in my base, or in a safe space)

[fervent bloom]

Okay, I can see how that would work well. It's different with scans, though.

[steel shoal]

That's why I said "logs" and not "entries" 👁️

[fervent bloom]

I know, I know. You're right....

[icy vapor]

should I get bz?

[viral badger]

yes

[steel shoal]

Yes, amazing game

[icy vapor]

okay

some people say it's bad tho

[fervent bloom]

I quite like it, though it's definitely different. I don't exactly know how to explain it.

[icy vapor]

if I do get it.. PC or PS5? (I got subnautica on PS5)

[steel shoal]

It works very well on PS5, but it's up to your preference

[steel shoal]

Many people who hate on it have never even tried it, they simply parrot someone else's opinion. Play the game, and form your own opinion.

[icy vapor]

alright

[icy vapor]

I'm better at controllers tbh so I'ma get it on ps5

[viral badger]

im living proof of this fr (except i didnt hate it that much)

[icy vapor]

also cute penguins

and I got a beanbag and a snuggly cat so..

PS5 it is

[wise widget]

any good places to make a base i just started

[steel shoal]

Wherever you find pretty

[wise widget]

;-;

nothing is too me;-;

any good places

[steel shoal]

I like the Twisty Bridges, Lilypads area, Ventgardens, Arctic Spires too

The place with eyejellies is pretty too

Crystal place is gorgeous

There are no ghosts 👁️

[wise widget]

are they good for mats?

[steel shoal]

I don't know, and your PFP is making me not want to chat here. Sorry.

[wise widget]

why;-;

its not fnaf

;-;

bruh

[fervent bloom]

How so?

[ionic moon]

helloo

my subnautica obsession just started up again. Im currently plotting the deaths of every shadow leviathan there is.

(When i did my first playthrough i got super lost in the crystal caves. Not even coordinates were helping. Only thing that kept me alive was cheats. Now im on switch..)

[chrome cedar]

Just avoid them this time.

[cerulean socket]

Where is the biggest area to fight a shadow leviathan?

[west mountain]

You have to place some beacons to mark your way in and out.

[west mountain]

Killing the shadow leviathan is useful when you plan to gather all the resourcrs from ||crystal cavern||

[west mountain]

They are all over ||crystal cavern and red crystal cavern||

[ionic moon]

yeah thats the first thing i have done so far.

[west mountain]

Excellent, and now what's the plan?

[stoic surge]

If I want to avoid interacting with predators, I just reduce the aggression setting to zero - they don't need to be 'killed'

[steel shoal]

Killing leviathans :(

[stoic surge]

I like to drive or swim around to enjoy the ambiance of the beautiful biomes here

[trim root]

Killing leviathans : )

[west mountain]

Absolutely, that is the most amazing part of the game. The biomes are absolutely stunningly beautiful.

[stoic surge]

Indeed

[steel shoal]

They're such a big part of the environment, the biomes feel significantly blander without them swimming around

[trim root]

*better

[deep kettle]

You could say there's a big feeling missing 🥁

[stoic surge]

They can swim all they want, I just don't enjoy killing them

[steel shoal]

Crystalline Caverns look inviting, the soundtrack is almost welcoming, but it's distorted, hinting that something there doesn't want you nearby

[deep kettle]

The leviathan in there is overly aggressive though, it's annoying :p

[west mountain]

For the story game play there is no need to kill any leviathan at all. But once you have done the story and switch to building and want to harvest all the resources from ||crystal and red cavern|| they have to make way. I respawned them once I was done 🙂

[steel shoal]

Too busy enjoying its beauty to care about anything else

[indigo moth]

They’re fun to kill

Except for ghosts they’re cute and pretty chill

[steel shoal]

There are no ghosts

And "fun to kill".... I don't know, it's repetitive, clunky and lengthy. It's not what I call "engaging"

[indigo moth]

Ghost leviathans

And the leviathans are scary and especially reapers swim away and around to try and hide away mid fight you go up for air and come back down all the sudden the reaper you were fighting is gone but he still knows where you are

It’s creepy and that’s what makes it fun

[wet shadow]

Hi i'm new

[indigo moth]

Hi new I’m subaqueousshrimp

[wet shadow]

Hi

[west mountain]

Welcome!

[wet shadow]

Nice to meet you

[steel shoal]

Ghosts are not in Below Zero, but okay. Leviathans stop being scary after you get used to them, killing them means you don't want to overcome your fears

[indigo moth]

Oop this is below zero chat

[indigo moth]

Why would I want to overcome my fears

[wet shadow]

I want to ask how to overcome fear

[indigo moth]

It’s like a horror game you’re kinda supposed to be scared

[wet shadow]

I know

[steel shoal]

This is not a horror game, though

[indigo moth]

Kinda is though

It’s got jumpscares

[steel shoal]

It doesn't

[wet shadow]

I already played both and i'm still scared

[steel shoal]

The jumpscares are very few, like Preston and the Ice Worm, but one of them is just story

[indigo moth]

Yeah it kinda does have big scary creatures making loud noises while eating you or attacking you which is a common thing among horror games

[eternal garnet]

Once you have the perimeter defense truck upgrade, you can cancel attacks. Fear should drop quickly after that

[indigo moth]

I mean I’m more talking about the first game tbh ik this is below zero chat but

I never really played bz

Idk why I’m here

[trim root]

You gotta

[steel shoal]

Well.... Minecraft Ravager oooo so large and horror-like

[trim root]

Its better than first game

[indigo moth]

Minecraft ravagers don’t jumpscare you in the dark

It’s big and goofy looking it’s nothing like a subnautica leviathan

[steel shoal]

All the leviathans glow in the dark, and they roar really loud before attacking, and swim away after attacking

Your vehicles have floodlights as well

[indigo moth]

Well idk anything about bz leviathans

makes good argument

[steel shoal]

The reapers are the only leviathans that don't glow, but they're super easy to avoid, and they're so silly looking

[wet shadow]

Chelicherate doesn't glow

[indigo moth]

Ok well if it’s not a horror game then why is everyone scared while playing it

[steel shoal]

They have glowing fins, and they're very large

[wet shadow]

Well yea

[steel shoal]

Fear of dying? Of big things?

[indigo moth]

Well ima go now

[wet shadow]

That is true

[steel shoal]

That's present in every survival game

[indigo moth]

Well it’s particularly scary in this one

[steel shoal]

It doesn't mean it's a horror game though

I think exposure therapy works really well with overcoming fears in Subnautica

The Prawn suit makes you really safe

[ionic moon]

i have a prawn with a drill arm. I need one more grapple fragment then i can craft that too. It’ll be a slow process but im willing to try. Grapple onto its back, and drill out its head. I did the math a little while back and it takes around 3 minutes per leviathan.

If this fails i’ll use torpedoes instead.

[west mountain]

Way too complicate 🙂 Your best weapon in BZ is the seatruck with the zapper module (and if possible all the power upgrades). Takes almost no damage at all and delivery a heavy punch at your opponent.

[ionic moon]

I didnt even consider that, i’ll do that instead 💀

[steel shoal]

How about like... leaving them alone?

They're just there, they're not a big threat

[west mountain]

We know your opinion on that by now. Other players have other ideas how to play the game. Everybody can do the way he/she wants. Its just bytes and pixels, not real life

[steel shoal]

It doesn't feel right to encourage it

[ionic moon]

im getting rid of them because last time i played BZ it was on pc, and i got really lost after fabricating AL-AN. because my second playthrough is on switch, if i get lost again I can’t use cheats to avoid my seatruck losing power and not risk it getting too damaged by them. To me it’s one way of making navigating the crystal caves easier.

[steel stream]

You can use beacons to avoid getting lost...killing leviathans doesn't help to find the way out

[sharp cipher]

Just bring extra power cells

The shadow leviathan didn't really bother me I just stopped moving and they didn't care about me.

[ionic moon]

im defintely doing that.

[sharp cipher]

Also my truck was very small

[ionic moon]

i placed a beacon at the exit already, + i kept losing the entrance 😭

[ionic moon]

my truck only has prawn docked to it

[chrome cedar]

You can take quite a few seatruck modules down. In addition to the dock I always have a fabricator and at least 4 storage modules. If I'm down there for a while I'll usually pack extra parts for a thermal reactor and a seatruck dock, and often a scanner room. Nice little temp base for when traveling.

[steel shoal]

You can go from the open, safe area to the red area with the prawn, damage is minimal. You can also go with the seatruck - if you stop piloting it, the leviathans won't attack it. It's very easy and safe.

[ionic moon]

I didn’t know they would stop attacking but that makes total sense.

[steel shoal]

It's probably to stop them from attacking it as you do your stuff down in the facility thing

[idle spindle]

glitched into docking module and can't get out please help

it was so weird being inside its like protective shield and can still swim slowly

[eternal garnet]

menu, Unstuck. Repeat up to 10 times

[idle spindle]

oh

i died from suffocation

[eternal garnet]

that works too!

[idle spindle]

what unstuck does

does it spawn in other place?

[eternal garnet]

it moves you to previous coords

it records 10 coords over the past minute or 2

[idle spindle]

there is also easy way to make Seatruck fly

when docking prawn sometimes can get between docking module and prawn and both seatruck and player will be sent flying for kilometers

good thing it didn't throw me into world edge

[upbeat peak]

Can someone tell me what the main goal is for subzero like am I trying to get off the planet? like what am I doing

[ionic moon]

uhh

||find your sister, get alien man in your brain, get alien man out of your brain, then leave.||

If that answers your question.

[upbeat peak]

Maybe a tiny bit more information?

[chrome cedar]

The ‘goal’ is pretty much given in the opening scene.

The actual end game goal is discovered through gameplay and exploration.

Without giving lots of spoilers…

[ionic moon]

a lot happens-

[upbeat peak]

I started subzero a while ago so I forgot what I was doing

[chrome cedar]

Ok, there is one main story that must be completed to finish the game involving ||aliens||, and two side stories. You originally come to the planet to find out what happened to your sister and get the details of that, and you pick up a side quest for someone ||still living on the planet from the first game.||

[idle spindle]

im at same page don't know what to do next ||Al-An doesn't give me other cache locations for some reason||

[chrome cedar]

He won’t, only vague hints when you happen to be exploring and get near an area.

[idle spindle]

||i got all other artifacts only said about Deep Lilypads Cave Cache ||

[chrome cedar]

Correct

Artifacts he will direct you to.

No beacons for the other two body parts.

[idle spindle]

why won't he say other cache locations

i already unlocked tether

[chrome cedar]

Forces you to explore.

[idle spindle]

according to fandom he should have given me hint locations alot earlier

[chrome cedar]

Not for the other body parts.

[idle spindle]

ah so its only once

[west mountain]

There are very suttle hints but not very specific. You want some hints?

[idle spindle]

no i know where those are but i want him to drop me pda location

[west mountain]

Ok no that does not happen

[idle spindle]

he did for others except 2 caches

[west mountain]

Correct thats how the game works.

[idle spindle]

ah my bad just read on fandom its hint and not location 😄

[chrome cedar]

Fandom can be wrong a lot.

[idle spindle]

what is wrong with snowfox most of the time i place it goes under terrain

[west mountain]

Glitch in the game. Very unfortunate.

Happen to me once. No idea why it happens to you so often

[ionic moon]

||chelicerates are so silly, they r just angry sushi. And void chelicerates are moldy sushi.||

[next current]

Rude.

[ionic moon]

if they didn’t yell at me I’d be nicer. /hj

[steel shoal]

they yell??

[ionic moon]

the one at the purple vents is always roaring and stuff whenever i go near it

I should probably play with sound effects lower though-

[steel shoal]

I wish I could hear chelis

but unfortunately those cryptolosers never shut up

always grrr and roaaaarr and other unpleasant sounds

[ionic moon]

frr

And then you run into them with your truck and they instantly die

[steel shoal]

You run into them?

[ionic moon]

yeah?

[steel shoal]

I try my best to avoid them, repairing the truck is so annoying

[ionic moon]

i do it for fun sometimes

Or just because they got too close to my base

[steel shoal]

Do they respawn?

[west mountain]

No

[ionic moon]

i don’t think so? Im not sure

I know leviathans dont

[steel shoal]

The list for BZ is so confusing

Sea Monkeys respawn, but Spinnerfish don't

[ionic moon]

what???

that makes no sense

[steel shoal]

exactly

[chrome cedar]

Just dock it. 😉

[steel shoal]

Wha?

oh, right

[chrome cedar]

I've got docks at several regular places I stop at, very handy to recharge and repair.

[idle spindle]

why Jump jets are quite a bit better than in SN1

[west mountain]

But the dock does not repair the modules attached. A bit annoying.

[idle spindle]

i remember in SN1 i was not that mobile

[steel shoal]

It's not the jets, the prawn is better

[chrome cedar]

True, but most damage is at the front, so that makes some sense. Modules are easy enough to repair with the tool.

[steel shoal]

It now has forward boost, instead of only vertical

[chrome cedar]

But they are both the Mk III version, so that's kinda confusing that they aren't identical.

[idle spindle]

why was this changed only in BZ and not in 2.0?

[chrome cedar]

Maybe it seemed more relevant at the time when the devs were allocating resources for the games.

[west mountain]

I am going to build my 27th base, a megabase from the bottom of the east arctic vulcano up to the surface and beyond.

[chrome cedar]

Sea Truck, we never really found out what revision was in BZ. There is a poster though showing the 'New' X12 model that has a significantly different engine design. Looks more powerful...

That first module looks very intriguing...

[carmine bobcat]

who is that inside it

[chrome cedar]

It's not Fred... LOL

Fred never gets the good toys.

[west mountain]

He got the mustach kit, what more can you ask for 🙂

[idle spindle]

its probably newer model

[chrome cedar]

It does claim to be new...

[strong bloom]

Me

[vestal delta]

Yes Subnatica badly optimised JUST TAKE A LOOK AT WALLE

[steel shoal]

?

[vestal delta]

Also coil whine increases without vsync

and I have 155fps maybe that's why fish freeze sometimes

[steel shoal]

Never had any problems with performance

[vestal delta]

(talking as a gtx 1050) OG Subnautica player.

[steel shoal]

Isn't 155 fps like... super over the top?

[vestal delta]

I had vsync on max settings

40% of each used cpu and GPU

Damn fps drops in slime rancher 2 that's bad

FPS spike drops

[steel shoal]

It was a rhetorical question, I know 155 fps is more than good, a lot more than usual

I played on 30 fps, I think

Or 45, I don't know

[steel shoal]

Maybe lower the fps cap, it might help

[vestal delta]

Also I saw something about as developers we don't want to be stressed or do something not like.

I'll try to find that quote now

[vestal delta]

Can't vsync

[bold monolith]

When people claim the games aren't optimized I like to remind them that they run on the Switch.

[steel shoal]

Yea that's true

[vestal delta]

Yes but look at Warframe that's atrocious

30fps

Also I have the quote

We don't want to stress developers or force them to do something they don't want to do.

[vestal delta]

That doesn't mean anything my phone has better tflops than the switch marginally

and it's atrocious for a 2022 phone

[vestal delta]

I think this is from the Agile LEAN methodology

Lean as in extremely leaniant

e.g VMware devs. "We don't get paid we do this in our free time ---ban"

[random sky]

i like this game

i hit 100% on subnautica its good man

good game

all my fellas

[fervent bloom]

I wanted the Seatruck X12 ever since I saw the poster. What do you think the first module's purpose is?

Well, I was disassembling a thermal plant, and burned to death, dropping my titanium and other supplies into a lava geyser.

[simple galleon]

Server: Tigrinum was cooked to death while dismantling their base

[fervent bloom]

Yes, this is true. I got most of my supplies in the end, though. And by the way, my pronouns are he/him if you'd like to use them.

[chrome cedar]

Maybe we will find out in the next game.

[fervent bloom]

I've always wanted the cut planter module. I'm playing on vegetarian mode, so it would make that easier on long trips.

[chrome cedar]

Interesting…. I just pack fruit salads.

[simple galleon]

ok!

[steel shoal]

Salads ftw

Those stats are crazy, +100 heat, +85 food, +30 water

[simple galleon]

same, OP food. body heat, thirst, hunger

[steel shoal]

Super cheap recipe too

[simple galleon]

you just need to finish a certian part of the story to get one of the ingredients

[fervent bloom]

I haven't gotten into ||Marguerite's Greenhouse|| yet in the current game.

[simple galleon]

should tho

[fervent bloom]

Definitely; that will be useful.

[fervent bloom]

You have to do that to get the recipe, too, don't you?

[chrome cedar]

Yes

It’s worth the trip

[simple galleon]

but that's auto-unlock once you have gotten all of the items needed to make it

[fervent bloom]

I thought you needed to get a PDA for the recipe....

[simple galleon]

nope!

[ionic moon]

it’s a pain to find without coords

[simple galleon]

I play on switch and found it within 2 mins of blind searching. (first playthrough too)

you just need a compass

[fervent bloom]

For some reason, I found a titan holefish randomly spinning around fairly quickly.

[simple galleon]

XD

[steel shoal]

Wha??

It's so simple

[simple galleon]

ikr

[steel shoal]

When you do what she asks you, she's like "Come visit me, 800m East" and it lands exactly 800m East

[ionic moon]

it took me multiple tries to find on switch, I couldn’t find it up on the iceberg 😭

Idek why it was so hard

[simple galleon]

if you found the iceberg but not the building i get that, when I saw it I was wondering how the heck I was going to get up there (when i saw the building)

[fervent bloom]

I realized that, in Below Zero, you can make an unlimited number of batteries. You can grow as many ribbon plants as you'd like, and rock punchers often unearth copper.

[steel shoal]

Repair tool recyclotron

[fervent bloom]

That works, too. Then again, you can find so many in the ||Mercury II|| and elsewhere that you will almost always have more than you need.

Found batteries/power cells can be deconstructed with the recyclotron for their constituent components just like ones you make, correct?

[steel shoal]

If they're at max energy, yes

[fervent bloom]

If you build a base in leviathan territory, will it stay around the outside because it wants to eat you? I was thinking of building a ||chelicerate|| observatory.

[ionic moon]

I don’t think so

It’ll just stay around since thats its spawn

[fervent bloom]

That's unfortunate... I found a nice spot to watch it, though.

[simple galleon]

yeah, lemme just go grab a beer and a chair.

[ionic moon]

if you want a base directly underneath it, you just have to be very careful and make a really long hall to enter safely.

[fervent bloom]

...or you could have a vehicle dock and a Seatruck with a perimeter defense upgrade.

[simple galleon]

mmhmm, still looking for the beer

found the chair tho.

[fervent bloom]

I was just struck by how beautiful and majestic the ||chelicerate|| is.

[simple galleon]

eh, I just want to get rid of it. tries to kill me every time I try to mine at the volcano

mabye i can put a battering ram on the truck and get that fish out of there, still gonna need that beer.

[fervent bloom]

I hope you decide not to kill it. I have the aggression turned down in my custom game, though.

[simple galleon]

mmmm, ok. I'm not playing on custom tho

but cool for you!

🙂

[fervent bloom]

Are you playing Survival? I thought it was more realistic to turn down the aggression.

I have it at 0.2, which still allows them to attack you. However, you have a second to get out of the way before crashfish even come out of their plants!

[wintry void]

They shouldn't fix the bug where creatures won't attack if you're inside a seatruck module without actually driving it because it somewhat makes sense as a lot of aquatic predators detect prey by sensing vibrations and movement

[fervent bloom]

I don't know that it's a bug; it might be intentional. Are you thinking of any groups in particular?

[steel shoal]

I think it's intentional, since you spend quite a bit of time in some out of water areas and it'd be annoying to have a leviathan/cryptosuchus biting your sea truck 1000m away

Nothing attacks your truck if you're not piloting

[fervent bloom]

Below Zero is much nicer than Subnautica in that regard.

[steel shoal]

Cyclops is the same when it's turned off

[fervent bloom]

I haven't actually tested that, but I believe it. The same is not true for the Seamoth and Prawn suit, though.

[steel shoal]

Yea, reapers will continue to approach them as you explore your things

[chrome cedar]

Different biomes. Creatures there like the shiny metal.

[broken badge]

alcohol references aren’t really suited to this server, just FYI

[simple galleon]

ok.. my bad

[upbeat peak]

I got the vehicles and tools and I don’t know what to do now What am I supposed to do

Btw I don’t care for any spoilers

[eternal garnet]

A compass helps a lot with discord, and more. Until then: North is the small moon, and the volcano.
South is an important island. On the way you may hear a distress call. Find this also

[upbeat peak]

I have a Compass btw

Just give me directions I should explore

[eternal garnet]

general tips: always carry a beacon, for several reasons. The air bladder is now really good. Explore. Exploring drives this game.

South. And in the twisty bridge canyon, down.

[upbeat peak]

Ok Ty

[mellow geode]

Pick up all the baby penglins you can find and stick them inside lockers

[strong bloom]

You mean the bio reactor

[mellow geode]

That's where ||trivalves|| go

[strong bloom]

Haven’t discovered those yet

Morally I don’t recommend putting penglings in the bio reactor I became sad

[mellow geode]

Hence lockers

They can stay inside indefinitely and never die

[pliant jetty]

The Locker of Dorian Gray

[steel shoal]

@upbeat plume It takes about 15 mins, but then the game actually saves and you don't lose anything, don't worry

[upbeat plume]

already at least 12 minutes here, so i'll leave it running and hope you are right

[steel shoal]

It happened to me too, I got so scared </3

[upbeat plume]

What causes the assets/elements to not load in ? How do i stop that from happening ?
Or is that just a known bug that will keep occuring ?

[eternal garnet]

it is a known bug, but cause isn't found. It's so hard to replicate.
What you can do is save often, but don't save when the world stops loading. Terminate game (quit doesn't work) and load

[upbeat plume]

so. 15 minutes are now through, it's still saying saving and please wait

i can access the F1 menu (needed that for the changeset number for the report) can i somehow see whether actual progress is being made ?

Does it matter whether i keep it running muted in the background or does it have to be in active fullscreen ?

[eternal garnet]

please give up after 2 min. Kill it

[steel shoal]

Wait, really..?

[upbeat plume]

andys post got my hopes up

[steel shoal]

I didn't give up and was able to save it

[eternal garnet]

Have you ever seen a successful save longer than 1 min?

[steel shoal]

I have video footage

[upbeat plume]

i probably will uninstall then, losing progress is just so bitter in exploration games.

[eternal garnet]

how long was it then

[steel shoal]

About 15 mins

[eternal garnet]

...

[steel shoal]

I was in the red cotton area, but the water was green and there was nothing there - no plants, no fish, no rocks

[eternal garnet]

I am surprise

[upbeat plume]

i'm at 25+ minutes now

[steel shoal]

When I clicked save, it started loading things one by one, and when it was all loaded, a couple mins later it saved successfully and allowed me to play again

[upbeat plume]

my question from earlier:
i can access the F1 menu (needed that for the changeset number for the report) can i somehow see whether actual progress is being made ?'
Can the F1 menu give me any answers on potential saving ?

[eternal garnet]

not really. Task manager will show if it's doing anything

spoiler: I don't think it's doing anything

but Andy says there's hope

[steel shoal]

Yes, I had that "Please wait..." for a while

[eternal garnet]

this isn't a while any longer. this is a lunch break

[steel shoal]

Hmmm yum, lunch

[upbeat plume]

If i can't save this progress, and won't know whether this bug will keep occuring, i won't put more time into this game. :/

[eternal garnet]

sadface

[steel shoal]

This bug is known, but not necessarily common

I only got it once

[upbeat plume]

#🐞bug-smash message

[eternal garnet]

it's not very common, bit more common on consoles

I'd say it's the worst nonfixed bug in the game

[upbeat plume]

killed the process after 40 minutes

Guess all i can do is uninstall and leave a negative review as a warning.

Thanks for the messages though @steel shoal @eternal garnet ! 🙂

[broken badge]

The world streaming bug? It’s very rare now, but there can’t be a fix, because there’s no reproduction steps And without reproduction steps, there’s no way to hunt down a fix, unfortunately. Because there’s no flags that predate it’s occurrence (in the monitoring program), and once the bug occurs, the game is in essence “toast” and there’s nothing left around to track for bug data that would allow us to figure out what’s happening, it’s all just wiped since the saving process that most people trigger ends up destroying the progress of the game, such that when you restart, there’s no record of what happened leading up to the event, or something along those lines. So yeah, unfortunately there’s little hope to figure this one out. Which sucks because I’ve had the world streaming bug myself on every console I play on, so I know how frustrating it can be😔

[eternal garnet]

[chrome cedar]

I think I've run into that bug maybe three times, usually it's been fairly early in a new game, I'm swimming along breaking rocks, go to a new area scouting around, and then it takes a little bit to realise that I'm having a hard time finding rocks to break. And then I notice there's no fish. And then I swim around a bit more and finally figure out my map is glitched. I don't recall every trying to save at that point, I just reload and pick up from where I was before. No clue what may have triggered it.

This was with the Steam version, but playing on a Steam Deck, so sort of a console, sort of not. LOL

[eternal garnet]

The bug was common in EA, old story

[idle spindle]

just witnesed how one ||ice worm eaten two Snow Stalkers :(||

[chrome cedar]

Two at once? That's a new one for me.

I love how the run away from the worm, they will run right past me trying to get away from it.

[idle spindle]

nah i mean it returned and then burrowed in other place

[broken badge]

That’s all you can do, force quit
The worst thing you can do is try to leave the game the regular way (by menu) because you get stuck in a never ending save loop, because the world is stuck basically

[eternal garnet]

I find them very crunchy

[broken badge]

I wonder if they taste like booberry popsicles

[next current]

[viral badger]

they def taste like the blue jolly rancher

[steel shoal]

I do have a question though

How do you have creature decoys, Stasis Rifle and a 2x3 Seaglide while inspecting the Prawn storage in a Cyclops dock?

[broken badge]

Maybe posted in the wrong chat?

[steel shoal]

Yes, Shadow

[next current]

Yes.

[west mountain]

Yes, around the ship wrecks

Its not that important

Yes but there are other sources as well. No need to specifically looking for scrap.

[steel stream]

Every type of outcrop can drop titanium

[west mountain]

But if you loot the wrecks then take the scrap with you

And drillable nodes as well

[tiny forum]

What is this file in the Save file? I got 2 identical saves just one with thes batch objects and one without, what does it contain?

[bold monolith]

Things that don't need to be in your save slot.

That's why they're removed in the current version.

[pure timber]

Hmm, what do I do next...
||I had gone to the delta station dock, searched the base over there and got a buncha stuff. There's a location which is pilot last known position, but I dont think I should go there yet||

[west mountain]

Well, its a place you can go sooner or later. At least check it out

[pure timber]

Hm

[west mountain]

Also did you scan the map in Delta station?

[pure timber]

Yeah

[west mountain]

There are some places marked too. And you should improve your equipment

[pure timber]

Also, I did go to the location but I dont think I wanna go to its exact position considering its more than 100m deep.

[west mountain]

Whats your depth upgrade for the seatruck right now?

[pure timber]

I dont have a seatruck-

[west mountain]

Well, then thats definitely something to do next

[pure timber]

Hm

[west mountain]

Also setting up a small base would be helpful

[pure timber]

I guess I'll need to go looking for fragments for both the seatruck and mobile vehicle bay...

[west mountain]

And continue exploring

Yes, good idea

[pure timber]

I would ask for how to get habitat builder blueprints, buut I'd rather not spoil lel

[west mountain]

You just walked by it

[pure timber]

...its in delta station isnt it

[west mountain]

Go back to delta station

Yes,

Also exploring the seamonkey caves is a good idea, just a tip, you can craft more than one o2-tank

[pure timber]

Hm, why would I need more than one?

[west mountain]

More O2 for exploration. Not much with the standard tank but the bigger the tanks the longer you can explore

[pure timber]

Oh I know about bigger tanks

[west mountain]

So look for tank upgrades, look for the rebreather helmet, look for mobile vehicle bay and seatruck

And setup a small base

[pure timber]

Oh, thermal lillies hurt you if you come too close to them. That jumpscared me lel

Gosh I cant wait for the time ill desperately need titanium

[west mountain]

That would be all the time 🙂

[pure timber]

Not right now, I have a bunch of titanium lel

But yeah I can relate, in the first game I think I'd die for like.. 3 pieces of titanium

[west mountain]

Oh, not in BZ, there is plenty fo Titanum. Every outcop gives you a chance for Titanum. So no worries about that.

[pure timber]

Limestone outcrops are like 2% copper ore and 98% titanium so i guess so yeah 💀

Oh, there's another base here.

...the habitat builder isnt in one of the 2 bases, right?

[bold monolith]

You're sarcastic I know but it isn't totally random. If you break the same amount of outcrops you'll find the same amount of resources wherever the outcrop is.

And there are more than two bases, the habitat builder can be found in two of them, but also elsewhere.

[pure timber]

Ahh

I only found fred+jeremiah's and emmanuel's

[bold monolith]

So you found Delta. You missed it then.

[pure timber]

Man I searched everywhere in the bases 🥲

[bold monolith]

||It's outside. Right at the entrance.||

[pure timber]

||...of course its at the entrance.||

[bold monolith]

Thinking about it, they're Schrödinger's outcrops. Since they can contain one or the other depending on your previous findings.

The resource you get is chosen when you break it, not when they're generated.

[pure timber]

Now I need to try and find silver and table coral.

[mellow geode]

kinda like superposition usb A plugs?

[west mountain]

Both in twisty bridges

[pure timber]

Oh I already got habitat builder but thanks for your help!

Now I just need to know where I can get seatruck fragments...

[west mountain]

Twisty bridges 🙂

[pure timber]

Lol, where can I find lithium then..?

[west mountain]

There are many places, but the easiest for lithum, silver and gold is around delta island

[ionic moon]

purple vents, thermal spires too i think?

[steel shoal]

Are ion cubes that scarce?

I didn't find that many throughout the game

[ionic moon]

I think so. I don’t remember getting very many.

[steel shoal]

Most I've found are in the Arctic Spires

[west mountain]

There are ||three piles of drillable ion cube deposits||. So once you get your hands on those, no, they are not scarce but limited

[carmine bobcat]

Mhm, but Ion Cubes are only really useful for a Recyltron. The rest can go towards Teleporter tool charges

[west mountain]

Dont wast your ion cube on teleporter. Recycle the teather tool before the cude runs out (2x use)

[ionic moon]

and headlamp

im pro headlamp

[carmine bobcat]

Always felt headlap was a waste ss rebreather is more useful

[ionic moon]

true

I like to swap between the two

yk

why does robin not just

strap headlamp onto rebreather?

[carmine bobcat]

It would have been useful as a slot where the compass can go

[ionic moon]

yeah

[steel shoal]

Scanner room HUD chip is pointless for me

[west mountain]

Why, how else you going to find the resources indicated by your scanner room?

[steel shoal]

I don't use scanner rooms

Only as decoration

[west mountain]

Then of course you dont need it, but its not pointless

[steel shoal]

I have never had much trouble finding resources, and when I had, mineral scanner was the best

[steel shoal]

Forgor about "for me"

[west mountain]

Well, once you are going to find the very last bit of resource like I did you need one. But true, for the regular game play it is not that necessary. I also use the handheld scanner.

[steel shoal]

I don't enjoy mining

[west mountain]

I spent 100 of hrs mining, so we play differently 🙂

[steel shoal]

The drill arm noise is stuck in my head, I can't stand it

Every time I run out of titanium, I just can't stop thinking about it

I now go for metal scraps because I can't take it anymore 💔

Even now, I remember the whole sound loop

[pure timber]

Jesus CHRIST did the air bladder launch me high up

[pure timber]

There are metal scraps in BZ?

[steel shoal]

Yes, around and inside the big ship

[pure timber]

The big ship- ok

[west mountain]

Yes, you get airborn with that thing!

[pure timber]

I was near that floating thing when I tried to get up and I got fall damage LOL

also I didnt even know you could climb up to the delta station dock so I literally used the air bladder to launch me up there.

[steel stream]

You can also just swim to the land next to the dock and start walking

[pure timber]

Coffee vending machine has a different purpose now? Interesting

[chrome cedar]

Mainly for the warmth.

Pity they don’t have hot chocolate. Stupid Alterra.

[pure timber]

Riley was the only one who made the coffee hydrating...

bro has that hydration magic

[steel shoal]

The hydration came from the mug. Remember those crunching sounds?

[pure timber]

Ahh so this proves Robin is dumber than Riley

...wait, is the thermos edible?

I guess that doesnt really matter considering the coffee vending machine still has the cup dispenser.

[steel shoal]

No, you get to keep it

[pure timber]

I hate how my health keeps blinking red like smh robin I know you're bleeding because a brute shark bit your leg but can you shut up, smh my head tbh

[odd surge]

Commit mass arson

:D

[rustic hinge]

do your items disappear if you die on land?

[eternal garnet]

they might, but not intentionally. So probably not

[chrome cedar]

They could clip through the terrain when you get back to them.

[ionic moon]

wait

you can pick up lost items?

I just never went back 💀

[chrome cedar]

In water, things stay floating and don’t sink until you get close.

[chrome cedar]

Yes. And if you die with a beacon it marks your spot for easy pickup.

[ionic moon]

is that true in both games?

I’ve just figured they disappear

[steel shoal]

No, it's BZ only

I think

[next current]

This is true. Beacons in BZ will drop as death markers. Beacons in SN will just stay in your inventory.

[ionic moon]

ah

[hearty tulip]

||Is that the blue tablet from subnautica 1?|| I never noticed it and thought it was just scrap metal.

[steel shoal]

I think it is

[next current]

In terms of the old story, it was originally supposed to be a ||white tablet.||

[fervent bloom]

Which facility did that unlock?

[next current]

(Endgame spoiler) Originally, the ||Phase Gate Facility which used to be called the Shield Base.||

[steel shoal]

Slicey, can you tell me how the old story went?

[fervent bloom]

If that was for the ||Phase Gate||, what was the ||red tablet|| for?

[next current]

I don't think the red tablet was planned for anything in this game.

[fervent bloom]

Really? Then was the ||white|| the only tablet in Below Zero?

[next current]

To sum it up (sorry for wall of text), ||Robin work for Alterra. Robin think Alterra stinky. Robin meet and become pals with Al-An. Robin does some tasks for Alterra to be less sus because she took Al-An. Al-An wants body and Robin was going to make it. Robin meet Marguerit. Robin's coworker is missing and then he is found. One of Robin's tasks is to send up a rocket with Kharaa sample. Kharaa sample goes missing on the space station. Robin's sister and the crew mates on the space station are infected. Robin tries to send up Enzyme 42 but the Rocket explodes because of Alien shield. Turns out Robin's coworker is an evil stinky doo-doo head who wants Al-An for himself. Robin builds Al-An a body.|| And that's all that was released for the old story.

[fervent bloom]

So, there was never any explanation for what happened to the people on the ||Vesper||?

[next current]

Yeah not really. The story was never finished.

[fervent bloom]

I never knew that. I wonder if they had a plan...

[next current]

Probably.

[next current]

It was also planned to be in SN. But then it was cut. Then they planned to reuse it in BZ which then never happened.

[steel shoal]

Wow..... That actually makes sense...

Thank you, Ghost

[next current]

If you have the game on Steam, I recommend playing the old story yourself.

[steel shoal]

I don't have it, my laptop would fry like a potato. Tasty for sure, but not what I want rn

[next current]

Oof okay.

[clever crow]

i would love to play as someone that sabotages stinky alterra more (i want more crime)

like we only did a little in bz

[next current]

A little bit of trolling on Alterra.

[lament tartan]

I just finished subnautica. Was an awesome game, enjoyed it very much. Now looking towards BZ, is it recommended? What can I expect to be different from sn?

[fervent bloom]

I enjoy it a lot. Robin (the protagonist) talks more and has more personality, and the story is more personal than Riley's. Resources and fragments are typically easier to find. The biomes and creatures are amazing, perhaps more so than the ones in the first game, though the latter might not have as many unique behaviors.

[clever crow]

smaller map, a little less darkness and a more talkative player character

[lament tartan]

Hm okay. Is there a entire new story with a new goal, or does it, atleast partly, connect to sn?

[fervent bloom]

The map is indeed smaller, but I think it's more condensed and packed full of interesting things to do.

[fervent bloom]

It has no real connection to the first game other than the setting. ||Kharaa|| doesn't play a role. However, it definitely explores the ||Precursors|| more.

[lament tartan]

Okay I see. Considering how good sn was, I think it's safe to say that I cant go wrong in buying the game. Thx for the info all.

[fervent bloom]

I would agree, though they are different. If you like underwater exploring, base building, and trying not to get eaten, it's definitely a good game.

[lament tartan]

Bet 😄

[clever crow]

the most important stuff.

[pure timber]

Alright

Where do I find diamonds?

[fervent bloom]

Did you mean to ask in #subnautica-chat ?

[pure timber]

...Nope.

I know where to find diamonds in the first game, im already midgame there haha

[fervent bloom]

Okay! You can find plenty down in the ||Deep Twisty Bridges||. The ||Koppa Mining Site|| also has a fair number.

[pure timber]

Im scared to tap on those spoilers

[fervent bloom]

How far are you in the game?

[pure timber]

I searched delta station dock, have a small base, mobile vehicle bay blueprint and 2/3 seatruck fragments

[fervent bloom]

Okay... the first one is deep; it's below the Twisty Bridges that you swim across to reach the dock.

[pure timber]

there's only one diamond down there???

nvm

[fervent bloom]

No, there are a lot. You can find lithium there, too.

[pure timber]

Nice

Just gotta be careful of the brute sharks

[fervent bloom]

The diamonds are in a separate biome beneath the area with brute sharks. It's around 300+ meters deep.

[pure timber]

Ahh.. ok

So the area you spawn in is the shallow twisty bridges, the area with the brute sharks is the medium twisty bridges and the area with the diamonds is the deep twisty bridges?

[fervent bloom]

Exactly. Apparently, the medium Twisty Bridges is just the Twisty Bridges, and there are also the Shallow and Deep areas.

[pure timber]

BZ is certainly known for its variety in biomes

[fervent bloom]

Once you get further, there are a lot of diverse and interesting locations.

[pure timber]

Is that serious or sarcastic?

[fervent bloom]

I assume you haven't encountered any leviathans yet?

[pure timber]

Nope

[steel shoal]

It's serious, there are lots of biomes and they're very unique and beautiful

[pure timber]

Hmm alrighr

[fervent bloom]

It's serious; I think many are really fascinating.

[pure timber]

I did hear that like half of the gane/biomes are just snow though lol

[steel shoal]

It's not true

[fervent bloom]

That's definitely not true, and even the ones with snow have differences in the fauna, flora, and look.

[pure timber]

Hm

[steel shoal]

Most of the game is still underwater

[pure timber]

Are crabsnakes in bz though

If not 0/10 game /j

[fervent bloom]

There are no crabsnakes, alas. Below Zero has many interesting creatures though, many of which I prefer to those in Subnautica.

[pure timber]

True true, i really love ||squidsharks||

[chrome cedar]

In the deep area with diamonds there are also some module fragments for the truck, some good plants, and a few other goodies.

[pure timber]

Oh nice

[fervent bloom]

Likewise! I think they're amazing. Did you know that you can find squidshark eggs?

[chrome cedar]

More fragments for the truck itself are in shallower areas of the twisty bridges.

[pure timber]

Ooh nice

[pure timber]

Is the seatruck a new seamoth or a new cyclyops?

yes

[chrome cedar]

Yes indeed. It’s like their love child.

[fervent bloom]

It is indeed both. I like it very much - it has the agility and compactness of the Seamoth, and the customizability and some of the space of the Cyclops.

[pure timber]

Actually I like the seatruck more than the cyclops

Never gotten far enough in either games to try them but i like the design lel

[fervent bloom]

I definitely agree. The Cyclops is too unwieldy and slow for me to want to use it that often.

[pure timber]

(excluding creative)

Also seatruck just seems more... cozy, yk?

[chrome cedar]

Oh, I used the cyclops regularly, and it aways came back loaded up.

[pure timber]

I know the cyclops is a little tight but I just love the seatruck because I love tight spaces lel

[fervent bloom]

Yeah... plus the interiors of the modules are unique, rather than simple base pieces.

[pure timber]

Also man we REALLY need an I base piece that looks like the seatruck dock because it looks so darn awesome

Maybe even the other types of base pieces, like the L, the T, the +... man

[chrome cedar]

There is already a dock? Not sure what you mean.

[pure timber]

I mean

Im saying I want a base piece that looks like the dock

(one of the I base pieces)

[fervent bloom]

So, you want one that's wider than the normal corridor?

[chrome cedar]

I’m dense, not getting it. The dock is already a base piece? You want a dock that isn’t a dock?

[pure timber]

er hold on

[chrome cedar]

A wider I-corridor would be cool…. More room for lockers.

[fervent bloom]

I agree. Sometimes I want more space, but don't want a whole multipurpose room.

[pure timber]

I guess like, a glass corridor with """modules""" inside

[chrome cedar]

Hmmm. Interesting

[pure timber]

Literally my first thought when I first saw what the seatruck dock looked like

[fervent bloom]

Oh, now I get it. I don't think it's necessary, but it would be cool.

[pure timber]

True

Could have the actual module rooms so yk, it could be used for sleeping, ...watching fish swim around, and yk what the other modules do

[chrome cedar]

I wish you could connect multipurpose rooms directly without a corridor between. Also wish those that the large rooms would join together as a solid piece with no wall in between.

[fervent bloom]

I think you can... (for the multipurpose room).

[steel shoal]

I want a planter module... please......

[chrome cedar]

So basically directly connect the modules to the base?

[pure timber]

This excludes the prawn module for obvious reasons...

[pure timber]

I guess so?

[lime grove]

i remember one being in early access or something

[fervent bloom]

I know! It would be so helpful, especially for people playing as vegetarians.

[steel shoal]

I will destroy whoever scrapped that idea

[pure timber]

A yway I should probably go sleep, its 3 in the morning over here

[chrome cedar]

It’s be like a mini moonpool.

[pure timber]

Oh maybe

[steel shoal]

Hi I'm vegetarian both irl and in game

[pure timber]

How wouldja walk around it though

[lime grove]

so you wanted that one plant pot in a module?

[pure timber]

how did bro get past the first few days

ok I should really get to sleep now

[fervent bloom]

I would actually like a way to clamp the Prawn suit to the outside of the base; it doesn't need to recharge or be able to be entered from the inside, but storage would be helpful.

[steel shoal]

Actually also a wall planter for Preston's Delight

[fervent bloom]

That was just the placeholder, wasn't it? I think it would have had a separate design.

[steel shoal]

Nutrient blocks and bullseye shroom

[fervent bloom]

I mostly ate frost anemones.

[pure timber]

Imagine a module where we could just place whatever we want inside

[steel shoal]

That too, and for a while shrub nuts

[fervent bloom]

Good for you!

[pure timber]

Maybe then andy could have her food.

[fervent bloom]

I don't believe they regrow, so I hope you left some.

[chrome cedar]

They regrow

[pure timber]

fred would use this for his seatruck bed

[fervent bloom]

Really? I thought the wild ones would stay bare.

[chrome cedar]

They just grow slowly

[pure timber]

K gn

[steel shoal]

I ate the ones on the floor

[fervent bloom]

That's useful to know. How long does it take?

[fervent bloom]

I stripped one plant completely before I figured it out.

[noble fractal]

i got all the matierlas to craft the seatruck but idk where im supposed to craft it,, it dont let me craft it on the fabricator

[vast idol]

The only advantage shrub nut has is that it doesnt rot

Aside from that it’s probably the worst plant ingame

[steel stream]

You need mobile vehicle bay

[west mountain]

Shrub nuts are excellent. They give you health.

[vast idol]

it takes up 4 slot in your inv

[pure timber]

...how do I get window blueprints

Very important question i know

[bold monolith]

Scan it.

[pure timber]

i hate this game

dont make fun of me

but

I just got jumpscared by an arctic peeper...

gosh where the hell are these seatruck fragments

[mellow geode]

littered about

[pure timber]

I just triple attacked a brute shark with the survival knife

gah damn

[vast idol]

explore...

[steel stream]

And interestingly they don't rot in your inventory

[bold monolith]

I don't know if it's a mistake or if that was intended.

The maroon fruit gives health as well, but it decomposes.

So.

Don't mind the purple mushroom, it's a leftover from SN.

[steel stream]

Was just about to ask what's that😅

And checking from wiki the maroon fruit seems to be antennae plant in the game

[bold monolith]

Indeed, sorry I didn't really keep up with their "in-game" name.

[steel stream]

And my game is in Finnish, so didn't recognize it at all first 😅

[bold monolith]

The prefab has its name, the techtype has another name sometimes, and the PDA calls them differently.

The best confusing thing is in SN1, where the shuttlebug techtype is the crawler and the actual shuttlebug has the techtype "jumper".

[steel stream]

For example shrub nut is in Finnish 'hevospähkinä', which literally translates to 'horse nut'

[bold monolith]

But I'm offtopic.

[steel stream]

Probably me too

[pure timber]

Hrmmm

Where am I able to get the rebreather blueprints?

[clever crow]

in twisty bridges

[steel stream]

Twisty bridges canyon. There are two Alterra tech sites, one with rebreather and the other with high capacity tank databox

[pure timber]

Are those on the map?

[steel stream]

You can also get window and builder tool blueprints there

Could depend which map you use, but at least some maps have them

[pure timber]

I just went back to delta for the 3rd time to get window blueprints... 💀

...so um

I looked around twisty bridges for seatruck fragments

I found none

I step outside the delta base

....You guessed it, seatruck fragment.

[west mountain]

Believe me, once you have all the fragments you will find them all over the place

[mellow geode]

gotta get that 2 titanium

funny how no matter what it is you get 2 titanium

[pure timber]

Average subnautica gameplay

[pure timber]

Titanium ingot. Seatruck needs titanium ingot.

2 titanium

I mean I guess I could understand seatruck

but then SEAGLIDE fragments???????

Why do seaglide fragments give more titanium than needed to make one 😭

[mellow geode]

there's way more titanium in game than you actually need before you have to scan stuff to get titanium

[pure timber]

Now I only need silver and then I can get seatruck...

[mellow geode]

plenty of silver around delta

[pure timber]

Around or on the island?

Either way I gotta keep my survival knife ready for the cryptos haha

[mellow geode]

the underwater parts of delta

[pure timber]

Alr alr

Wait, delta isnt just the island?

[west mountain]

There is huge cave system underneath the island and also ||koppa mine|| is actually located under the island. A lot of things to explore there, but dangerous too.

[pure timber]

Lemme guess

There's a seabase there with rebreather and window blueprints?

[west mountain]

No, the rebreather is only located in ||Twisty bridges|| also the window blueprint is there too.

[pure timber]

are they on the delta map

[west mountain]

Item locations are not on the map, but ||koppa mine|| is on the map because its an alterra facility.

[pure timber]

Wait are they just lying around on the ground...?

[west mountain]

Well, not "on the ground" but there are some tech sites all over the map with goodies. The rebreather is at the crane plattform and the high cap O2 tank at the seatube in ||Twisty bridges||. There is also the window scan.

[pure timber]

...its at the crane platform- I.
ok.

is it easy to miss

(The rebreather, not the platform)

[west mountain]

Its just near the blinking ||alien lights||. Actually easy to find but at around 100-120m depth (I think). The seatube is a bit more tricky to find, because its under an overhang.

[pure timber]

What does the seatube look like?

[west mountain]

A single straight base tube pice with a window, also a desk next to it

[pure timber]

average creative base

[west mountain]

Yes, just one pice

[pure timber]

Hm, did I miss anything at delta...

[west mountain]

I dont know, what did you get from there?

[pure timber]

Coffee, habitat builder, executive toy, executive desk, all 3 beds, etc

[west mountain]

There is a lot to explore there, also an ||alien artefact in cave||. Some paths leading around the island with stuff to find.

[west mountain]

Table, flower pots, posters (but leave them until you have a base), shelves, glass locker, lots of stuff

Also the observatory

[pure timber]

...Glass locker?

[pure timber]

Also yeah I got those

[pure timber]

OHHH the big locker yeah I got that

[west mountain]

Most important is the habitat builder, many players miss that one in front of the building 🙂

Then you have to investigate on the tower of course

[pure timber]

I literally missed it my first time going there bahah

[pure timber]

Not much over there?

[west mountain]

You get a log from the control panel and you find an attachment point for a device. And the chance to scan the sky rays if they are close enough

[pure timber]

Where can I find that attachment point?

[west mountain]

You have to climb up

[pure timber]

Is it the test override module point?

Doesnt seem very useful right now...

[west mountain]

It all will come together once you continue the story

[pure timber]

Alright

[unkempt sphinx]

I just started playing below zero and got the sea truck

Is there a dock thing like for the seamonth

[sacred jungle]

YES

[eternal garnet]

Two actually, the old moon pool, and a new truck dock

[unkempt sphinx]

Were do I get it

[steel stream]

Databox in a mine or scan moonpool in one base

[noble fractal]

i went past the lilypad area into this big open area and then i kept going and it said i was in an ecologically dead zone before i got attacked by some big shark,, what kind of shark was it

[carmine bobcat]

That would have been the ||Void Chelicerate||

[clever crow]

silly music disc

[chrome cedar]

Frisbee!

Far out…

[clever crow]

it's so sunny. this "water" is so clear it feels like you are swimming in the air. cool in real life, but in game it looks off imo

i need just some fog and less sharp shadows

[pure timber]

Now to try and find the rebreather fragment...

LOL i got knocked out

Funny !

[eternal garnet]

want a hint? click. ||170m deep||

[pure timber]

||Atleast now I know to check the extra deeper parts...||

[eternal garnet]

next to it there's a ||crane||

[pure timber]

||I wonder if sea monkeys have some relation to warpers.|| spoilers for the first game

[unkempt sphinx]

I’m stuck in the mine with my sea truck how do I get out

Nvm I’m him

[lament tartan]

Man those bomb fishes are even more annoying in this game than before 😂

[pure timber]

Interesting... ||Some alien thing?||

NOO

I died because my air bladder ran out darn it

Oh thank god, I found the place again

I wonder if this leads to rebreather. It IS in the meters deep that person told me.

I hate diving deep.

I need an air bladder upgrade !!

Maybe a floating air pump would be useful, actually!

FINALLY

Ive obtained the rebreather!

Gonna save because I lost my seatruck due to not saving

[eternal garnet]

save 4 times an hour

[lament tartan]

How does that ore finder tool work lol? It doesnt seem to do anything

[west mountain]

You dial in what you look for, hold in your hand and swim around

It will beep when you are near and beep faster the closer you are.

But you have to choose the correct outcrop in order to find it.

[lament tartan]

Ohhh okay, ty

[pure timber]

I always forget to save-

Might not have done much progress today considering I lost most of it later on, but this day was still fun nonetheless! Now I have to sleep thou.

And I FINALLY got that rebreather blueprint

Somewhat easy to make, just need 2 silver, fiber, and silicon.

Will be paying a visit to delta for the wiring kit

[fervent bloom]

How so? I guess the kelproots get in the way...

[lament tartan]

Well that, I had no seaglide when I wrote this (doesnt objectively make them more annoying, but for the time being...), and I found there to be much more of them.

Also, ||research base 0 only has 2 prawn suit fragments||, correct?

[clever crow]

i like this pic

[rustic hinge]

do i need a sea truck to go to the unknown pilot's last location?

[steel shoal]

No, but it's very useful when you do

[stiff dagger]

is going to the Delta dock station at the beginning of the game safe?

[steel shoal]

Yes

[stiff dagger]

oh

how so?

[west mountain]

It is what the game wants you to do early. So go ahead.

[steel shoal]

You are not sent immediately there, you still visit a few other places

[west mountain]

Well its the very first message you hear when you enter the drop pod. So it must be important.

Of course you explore other places but once you find it you should go. No need to delay.

[chrome cedar]

There are some critters there that may try to bite you, but usually they have enough other things around they are trying to bite. Just keep swimming and change direction when you spot them.

[unkempt sphinx]

Why won’t it let me build a snowmobile when I have all the materials

[chrome cedar]

You built the hoverpad first?

[unkempt sphinx]

Where do I build the hover pad

Nvm

[chrome cedar]

[west mountain]

Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely, the biomes and animals are sooooo stunningly beautiful.

Well, its not exactly in plain sight but still OK to get to.

Technically yes if you know where it is, but the seatruck is the way to go.

yes, thats fair. I have some too

Yes, just add one room with plenty of reinforcement and you dont have to worry anymore

I also like micro-bases. How small can you build and still fit everything inside

They will breed like hell 🙂

I have one elevator with containment tanks full of fish, its even getting hard to get up and down, so many fishs

OK, when do you start playing?

Excellent, it will be great fun!

[eternal garnet]

one hatchable leviathan!

[steel shoal]

I don't know, but most BZ creatures have eggs while SN has multiple ones without

[eternal garnet]

Robin has no egg, and I feel something should be done about this

[mellow geode]

what

[clever crow]

i don't get it. all bigger creatures in both sn and bz have eggs, only big leviathans don't have eggs

[steel shoal]

Nonono

Ghost ray egg? Crimson ray? River Prowler?

[bold monolith]

Shuttlebug. Which is functional but isn't in the RNG rules.

[steel shoal]

Those are super important creatures, BZ made sure that all the ones you see have eggs though

[bold monolith]

I wish the other rays had eggs.

[steel shoal]

Were Reefback eggs removed on purpose? It was a surprise seeing Whale eggs, I thought it was a design choice

[untold sequoia]

i spawned a seamoth in and well

[bold monolith]

I don't know I wasn't there for SN1 early access.

[steel shoal]

I see

Do stalkers have any eggs?

[bold monolith]

She looks like an alien on top of an UFO.

[steel shoal]

She's technically an Alien to the planet

[bold monolith]

I meant a earth's one.

[untold sequoia]

the way it looks outside hurts my eyes

[steel shoal]

I know

Robin becomes the stereotypical alien

[bold monolith]

I think that was fixed somehow with some other fixes, but at some point exiting it at the surface level was really fun.

[untold sequoia]

just exited at the surface level and it went flying

[bold monolith]

I guess it wasn't fixed then.

Also, you can't place it in a Moonpool I'm pretty sure.

[untold sequoia]

ill try

[bold monolith]

So it isn't just the texture that is bugged.

[untold sequoia]

yeah you cant

[clever crow]

who put an invisible wall for objects inside a moon pool? i don't like that

[steel shoal]

Can't you prop cannon items through it?

[clever crow]

ye((

only in sn*

[steel stream]

Do you mean stalkers in the first game (yes, they have eggs) or snow stalkers in below zero (not sure, haven't seen their eggs)

[steel shoal]

Snow Stalkies

[untold sequoia]

somehow drove the seamoth into a seamoth

[clever crow]

u can take the snow bebe with prawn prop arms

[steel shoal]

!!!

[untold sequoia]

also what's the debug name for the snow stalker again? imma try spawning one in water

[steel shoal]

Does it not hurt them?

[steel shoal]

You can only spawn their model

They won't move

[untold sequoia]

oh damn

[clever crow]

don't throw them, just exit the prawn

[bold monolith]

It isn't just the model, it's the creature itself. It can still attack you.

[untold sequoia]

just spawned one in

[steel shoal]

wha that's strange

[bold monolith]

They don't move because there is no navigation mesh around.

[untold sequoia]

i just spawned a baby one in

[bold monolith]

You can imagine rails.

They follow the navigation mesh.

So if you spawn them at specific places, they should work just fine.

[untold sequoia]

he's actually swimming

[bold monolith]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navigation_mesh

[steel shoal]

Do Shadow Leviathans/Sea Treaders have the same issue?

[clever crow]

they try to go back home (if you steal them natuaraly, no cheats), but after they stand around blocked by something, they don't go anywhere

[untold sequoia]

just spawned a cyclops decoy,feelin good

[bold monolith]

The treader doesn't follow a mesh but I guess if their goal is far they probably won't move much.

And the shadow / ventgarden juveniles I don't think it's a mesh either.

Just a list of specific coordinates.

[untold sequoia]

i let my intrusive thoughts win

[steel shoal]

Interesting

[untold sequoia]

you can still enter the greenhouse in creative

no prawn suit?

[steel shoal]

I think you need to visit the island first

[untold sequoia]

messed a bit with the commands

[clever crow]

she's probabably stealing stuff at delta island, so based

[untold sequoia]

spawned below the delta island,should i let my intrusive thoughts win?

[bold monolith]

In creative she will be nowhere.

[untold sequoia]

you can spawn them in

there's a debug name for the baby one

[obtuse imp]

my snowfox went underthe map

how do i get itback

[clever crow]

you can steal them. steal them.

[untold sequoia]

i let my intrusive thoughts win

[clever crow]

reload a save. rip

[obtuse imp]

its the second timei happend

is that a common glitch

[clever crow]

yes

[steel shoal]

Quit without saving and come back. Get a new one and be careful with it. Use commands.

[untold sequoia]

resisting the urge to press right click after he almost bit me

[clever crow]

thievery.

[steel shoal]

Theft

[untold sequoia]

nvm he chillin

anyone knows the debug goto name for the area with the bridge?

[steel shoal]

It's near Phil Robotics

Phil

[clever crow]

u make a house for them before stealing, a foundation with containers around it will do. then you have your own bebe stalker you can feed fruits to

[steel shoal]

Are exterior growbeds enough?

[clever crow]

i'm not sure they can't walk onto them

they will try to go back to glacial area in a straight line

i wonder if saving and quitting stops them

i'll try that after i get prawn in my current save

[steel shoal]

Wormy is the bestie

Don't forget the skyrays

[clever crow]

and penguins

[steel shoal]

They are

A Subnautica mod

(me)

[clever crow]

good thing there are no crawlers there...

[steel shoal]

But I could also ask the smartest man alive, Mim- I mean, Ignis

[untold sequoia]

the one piece is real

[steel shoal]

How do Penglings/Sea monkey babies grow?

[untold sequoia]

no idea

[steel shoal]

Do you just stick them in the ACU and wait?

[untold sequoia]

how to scare a noob,step 1:make this jellyfish approach the land the noob's standing on,step 2:done

the hell are these

guys i just spawned in a baby sea emperor

i keep breaking the game by accident

[untold sequoia]

these fishes be havin a mansion

got a whole zoo for em

the one piece is real

[clever crow]

a stolen light stick vs a crafted one

[thorny brook]

I just put them in the ACU and they grew just fine in there for me

[steel shoal]

That's nice

[next current]

Ultimate flex

[clever crow]

also they can steal light sticks! even if the bazinga man is in the head

[broken badge]

Pengwing eggs exist but there’s not a lot of them in the external world. But if you put baby pengwings in your ACU and they grow up and mature, they’ll naturally lay pengwing eggs (afaik) in your ACU which go on to hatch more pengwings in your ACU. I mean we know where babies come from So in that context the eggs aren’t rare, at least not if you’re raising pengwings inside your ACU lol. But there are very few pengwing eggs out in the wild to find.

[broken badge]

It looks so cute carrying the lightstick away, like it really stole some valuable treasure xD

[clever crow]

i wonder if i could have a base with monkeys from ACU carring light sticks. they won't drop them if they don't have a nest, right?

[broken badge]

I wonder, if they ever get bored or distracted by something else they want to pick up, would they just let go of the object they’re holding. I don’t know about when they don’t have nests around, but they’ve dropped what they were carrying after offering something to me, I didn’t have inventory space to take it, and they just let go of it. They had nests around but they just dropped it right then and there

[bold monolith]

I remember when they didn't have the "place the tool in the nest when they are unloaded or if they've a nest nearby".

Good times.