#below-zero-chat

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flint wind
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torpedos to move threat away not to kill

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theres no creature killed for the sake of killing in subnautica

final zephyr
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Why not kill tho?

meager crescent
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They are meant to deter creatures rather than to kill

final zephyr
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Also why are we talking about what were even talking about originally?

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I lost the thread of the sentence

flint wind
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im not sure either TBH, but i think its about devs not adding much to sam storyline

final zephyr
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Oh yea

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But tbh overall the game is kinda violent ofc you don't have to kill every single mov in the game but the fish can kill you sometimes triggering pretty brutal animations

meager crescent
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||there's a lot to the storyline. It's just odd that you don't need the antidote or to finish your sisters work in order to leave the planet into the architect world.||

final zephyr
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Sometimes the creatures have death animation meaning that the devs expected them to die as some point by the player hand

fervent crater
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I mean the character is getting eaten by carnivores life forms in the ocean I think it's pretty fair in terms of violence and a good balance

final zephyr
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Yea

meager crescent
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there's nothing really brutal about em imo

final zephyr
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Your def not seeing a 5 year old playing the game are you?

fervent crater
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I wouldn't expect a 5 year old to play Subnautica tbh

meager crescent
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Oh, I thought you meant the creature death animations

flint wind
meager crescent
flint wind
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the creatures are going to do what the creatures are going to do, but the game tries to tell you you shouldnt hurt animals, because theyre just animals, you get me?

final zephyr
flint wind
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a knife? 💀

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ok lets watch you fight a hippo with a knife IRL

meager crescent
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"Oh yeah, the shop vendor gave me a gun so I thought he wanted me to shoot him"
That's the same thing you just said paraphrased

final zephyr
flint wind
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i gave you something to scale, a chelicerate is much bigger than a hippo, like a whale, but much more agile and powerful

final zephyr
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The chelicerate attacks then ignores you

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Attacks then ignores you plenty of time to attack him and kill him

flint wind
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its self defense

meager crescent
final zephyr
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Why should I when I can use my torpedos and mining arm to kill him and don't have him bugging me

flint wind
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i dont want to sound rude here, but do you know what youre saying?

final zephyr
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Yea

flint wind
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ok then, my bad

meager crescent
final zephyr
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You can kill leviathans they don't have infinite health so what's stopping me? A number on the bottom of my screen telling my health? Screw that

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Anyways we were talking about the Sam storyline

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|| def a plot hole, the game is always talking about her robin is always talking about her but at the end we get to finish her research get her necklace and that's it, I got more attached to parvan than Sam i felt sorry for him considering he had a family waiting for him that he couldn't even say goodbye to||
But I noticed a pattern at the ||end of both games we are always helping the planet and saving it from the kharaa bacteria || could this happen in the third game

fervent crater
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Isn't it gone

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wasnt the one in the ||frozen levi|| the last trace of it?

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bc of what happened in SN 1

final zephyr
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Yea it is gone

tidal geyser
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was hoping to come back to an update but it seems that isn't the case

final zephyr
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Completely but alterra wanted to weaponize it possibly spreading it everywhere in the galazy

tidal geyser
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we have any news about sequal #3?

final zephyr
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Nope

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Still dead waters

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|| the kharaa is completely gone after robin cures it||

tidal geyser
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I liked BZ but was also pretty disapointing. Feels like #1 was the sequel.

fervent crater
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#1 was the goat

final zephyr
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#1 cyclops fan

tidal geyser
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cyclops was great

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needed a better equivalent than we got in bz

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bz has so many small tunnels though we couldn't get anything more than the Seatruck to fit in most areas

final zephyr
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Yea BZ is so smaller in comparison but wish they could have made the snow Fox into an underwater bike

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That worked on land and water

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So people actually used it

sudden kernel
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I know it takes time and money. That’s why I said delete it. And also they can just take more time.

sudden kernel
sudden kernel
waxen trail
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Same lol, just made the prawn suit, wasn't doin anything on land till I got it

thorn inlet
final zephyr
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There's like one

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Only the repeat has one

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Repear

thorn inlet
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ever heard of crabsnakes?

final zephyr
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Oh yeah but it's not that brutal

thorn inlet
sudden kernel
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More just jump scares.

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Turn subnautica into doom eternal.

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I know that’s silly but would be so dope at the same time.

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😂

thorn inlet
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ever heard of natural selection?

final zephyr
waxen trail
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||Ice worm too, has like 5 different animations||

thorn inlet
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wait, the void chellies have different animations?

sudden kernel
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Yeah those are cool.

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Subnautica are a bit simpler

thorn inlet
final zephyr
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Yea

inner crown
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and my prawn suit depth module mk 2 got wiped

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yea im not getting that again

final zephyr
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He docks you like a sea truck and sprays acid

queen pelican
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how do i switch gamemods

sudden kernel
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Game modes? I’m not PC so I don’t know if you have commands or anything but as far as I know. You can’t switch modes mid game. Only when making a new game. I might be wrong about that tho.

meager crescent
flint wind
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It doesnt? That makes me want it less lmao

queen wing
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if i build an architect's body will i pass the game? it's just that I recorded only 13 hours, but I already have everything I need and I'm ready to go

sudden kernel
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Like finish the game?

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||well no but your basically done at that point||

steel stream
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You can save before, and then return to finish any possible side quests you haven't done

queen wing
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ok thx

fervent crater
fervent crater
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If you're talking about "completing" the game fully

lucid gate
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im back from my 2nd timeout

eternal garnet
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did you learn anything?

lucid gate
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not really

tacit totem
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collecting nickel and suddenly i cant pick specifically nickel up anymore. cant interact with it at all actually

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anyone know whats happening

eternal garnet
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no. restart BZ

tacit totem
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wow its only thsoe two pieces of nickel

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i could pick up others with ease just not two specific ones

eternal garnet
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you only tried 2. That's a problem

tacit totem
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there was only 2 in the area 😒

eternal garnet
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maybe you can craft a grav ball and get them

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nah that map is old, 2019

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incorrect in all the white parts and more

lucid gate
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dang ill find another

eternal garnet
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World biome map

lucid gate
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wow

tacit thorn
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is that 1-1 rendering? looks slightly wrong

eternal garnet
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I don't find anything wrong

tacit thorn
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literaly where I just went to verify

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so its just shaped differently, hiding outpost zero and making the land antarctic look bigger than they are

deep kettle
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I think the map is correct but the colors are blending weirdly with the depth it tries to create 😅

eternal garnet
lucid gate
eternal garnet
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yes? Neighbors can be nice

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it's really shallow there, so it doesnt visit often

deep kettle
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This is the one Ignis uses, I think it's pretty neat 🙂

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Why is it transparent D:

tacit thorn
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so much gray area, is that end of world, or secret dev playground?

atomic horizon
deep kettle
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There is (was?) a "secret" developer area in the map with some ice worm effects you could trigger, I don't know if it still exists though.

tacit thorn
deep kettle
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There's a bunch of random terrain there. I think Ignis tried to cut it out a bit.

eternal garnet
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I think the file is from game files, but later colorized. Hence weird size

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... no that's probably not right

deep kettle
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I don't know where he get the terrain picture from. Pretty sure the biome colors are him trying to match the old ones but I would assume he transformed the new biome data into the edges you see.

meager crescent
eternal garnet
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yes, actually

tacit thorn
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I wonder what happened to the third one past lilypads. theres that nice lava geyser there

tacit totem
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i just ||got alans 3rd body cache|| and i was super lost but the ||shadow levi|| turned to be my friend and i just followed it till I saw something familiar than followed the other one that was nearby and than got out all by myself

tacit thorn
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so you got a friend that just ahppens to love hugs too much and has awful breath?

tacit totem
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yes

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helped me out of there. thought id die of thirst while mindlessly going in circles

tacit thorn
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did you know...?

  • you can destroy the wild growing pepper trees with prawn drill.
tacit totem
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i did not

tacit thorn
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now you know!

fervent crater
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i thought it said peeper trees

tacit thorn
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whats a peeper?

waxen trail
tacit totem
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i put him together. terrifyingly fast

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where does he ever need to go at that speed

tacit thorn
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Going to haul a magic box full of tools with me everywhere. what should I put in the last slot? I think I'll be keeping my build tool in main inv at all times.

tacit totem
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forbid he taker 2 extra seconds to walk

tacit thorn
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I'll put a cooked fish now, to see if it goes bad after time

sudden kernel
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I don’t put my tools in the quantum locker. I put materials. But I’m quite a builder and build bases in all biomes so that’s just me

tacit thorn
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wont fit much materials, never bothered. If I'm moving 1k titanium, I might as well use seatruck

tacit totem
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i just dont make quantum lockers 😎

tacit thorn
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but tools, seeing I always need one i didnt bring seem like a good idea. will only keep one copy of locker on me.

tacit thorn
tacit totem
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is there anything i need to go to the ||phase gate||

tacit thorn
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final game credits? you can go, then game 'rewinds' and you can keep building.

tacit totem
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you could've not told me thats when the game ends officially 😭

tacit thorn
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oops 😅

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did you eplore the other storylines? Nobel prize in biology? Chefs salad?

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also, did you complete the ultimate goal of the game?

sudden kernel
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Alright I finished building the aquarium foundations! I’ve built the building and the containment units and small aquariums. Combined I calculate it has so far costed me

  • 130 quarts
  • 100 titanium
  • 20 copper.

And some other bits and bobs. I’ve spent so much on this aquarium it’s insane. This biome it’s in used to have so many resources but it’s just bone dry now lol. I haven’t even put a single fish in yet.

tacit thorn
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aww, the magic box does not work to keep food fresh

sudden kernel
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Big sad

spark topaz
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ggg

inner crown
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finally ion battery and powercell unlocked

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why does itneed lithium 😭

inner crown
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while it was in the storage module for my prawn...

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got the lithium while also killing the squid shark

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holy ion power cells are goated

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thats 2k power

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5x more than when i went to the weird looking caves

lament bone
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The fact that we can’t stack large rooms cross ticks me off

sacred jungle
sacred jungle
lament bone
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Plus it would look nice either way.

tacit totem
sacred jungle
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Not at all

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Why would anyone spoil the end

tacit totem
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well it wasn't a direct spoil, more so an accident in wanting comfirmation

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wanted to make sure we were referring to the same thing as that person knew it as the end credits and not ||the phase gate||

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didn't spoil the content end, just made me a lil sad the end was so close

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but thank you for your sympathy reguardless

sacred jungle
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Ok : D

thorn inlet
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||Wait, below zero has ion power?? Lol, I missed so much on my first playthrough...||

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||I gotta play again||

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and scan everything

thorn inlet
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Nope

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never knew, never made 'em

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I don't think at least

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Now I don't even remember, lol

deep kettle
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The way you achieve them is weird though 😛

thorn inlet
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hmm, imma not google it

tepid quarry
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damn brute sharks be easy

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one into it with the sea truck and they dead

bold monolith
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The collision damage from the Seatruck is just enormous.

sacred jungle
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Well i mean. You do ram an entire vehicle into it. I wouldnt just laugh or act like it tickled him

sudden kernel
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Do you guys think if they do add multiplayer to subnautica 3. Would it be a separate gamemode and map or just you can play the storyline with multiple people.

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And also I really do hope they are doing multiplayer but I find it unlikely.

deep kettle
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If they would add it I don't think they would add an entire new map / story just for multiplayer.

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My assumption would be it working similar to The Forest.

sudden kernel
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Yeah your probably right

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I think a whole new map would be way too much obviously but I think they would just have the original map but block off story stuff and sectors for example, the sea emperor base. Hard to say tho.

tepid quarry
inner crown
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that means it does stack!

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how... did i miss this

ashen glade
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Bruh

inner crown
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i blame oxygen plants

deep kettle
inner crown
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who had the bright idea of making oxygen plants

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you can literally camp them

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how are you supposed to attach sea truck modules...

deep kettle
sudden kernel
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Guys

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My hardcore world ended

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That world was 50 hours long.

waxen trail
sudden kernel
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I’ve lost it…

waxen trail
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Would happen all the time in early access lol

waxen trail
sudden kernel
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I was looking for titanwhole fish eggs. Realised I needed to get out and went up where ice was blocking my way so I had to lazercut it too get through. I broke through but the ice still didn’t move so I rushed down words to get out of the whole at the bottom of the iceberg. I then realised I wasn’t gonna make it to the surface so i pulled my teleportation device to teleport to my seatruck. I started teleporting but it was too late. By the time I got teleported I drowned.

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I knew it was gonna be drowning. I shouldn’t of risked it.

waxen trail
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Oof

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Yeah not getting PDA message telling you to get oxygen catches me by surprise

sudden kernel
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I just finished building my massive aquarium base as well. Captured the chelicirate and have been able to hold him for multiple days now and so much more. And I lost it to the titan holefish.

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I just thought with 225 O2 I barely have to worry.

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But you do.

waxen trail
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Why didn't you suck the holefish for oxygen

sudden kernel
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There was no titanholefish

waxen trail
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Oh the eggs

sudden kernel
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I was in the location where you can go inside an iceberg to find their eggs

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But the reason I took so long is also because I realised I brought the titanwhole fish eggs to extinction

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I hatched 1 titan in my aquarium back at my Main base and put the rest in my storage module. Then it blew up when I was capturing the chelicirate.

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So i realised that I couldn’t make the titans reproduce and that there was only 1 titanwhole fish in the whole game that could be kept in captivity. But by the time I realised and thought of it I realised I needed 02

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So little tip. Make sure to keep your teleportation device in your socket when your cave diving.

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Man I’m sad.

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I don’t think I can bring myself to play again.

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Would take so long.

inner crown
inner crown
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it is time... for my final trip

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well very close to my last

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i have to get the docking module first

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jump kill big lobster

inner crown
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i am ready... to dive deep

jagged fractal
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wait guys if i press f1 does it disable achievements? just wondering

chrome cedar
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Just F1, no.

waxen trail
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I use F1 all the time lol

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Mostly use it for the clock

sacred jungle
sudden kernel
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I think I’m done with subnautica now until the next game comes out. 🥲

sacred jungle
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Thats gonna take some time

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It sounds really painfull to lose 50 hours worth of progress

sudden kernel
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Yeah

inner crown
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i am finishing this today

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no more water, no more creatures!

eternal garnet
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sad!

inner crown
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what is the present

jade wigeon
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Is Below Zero Worth It?

bold monolith
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We only provide unbiased opinions around here.

jade wigeon
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Umm Whats?

deep kettle
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If you enjoyed the first game I think you'll be fine, @jade wigeon . I will say I didn't like certain parts of this game, it by no means makes it a bad game though.

jade wigeon
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sooo idk i need help

bold monolith
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What I mean is that you can't expect unbiased opinions from people who are part of the official Discord server for the game. As people who don't like the game would not be there.

eternal garnet
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it's good. it's not an identical game: You aren't alone. There are NPCs. There's no cyclops

jade wigeon
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im 13 so i dont know much]

eternal garnet
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NPC = non player chacaters. You aren't alone, no
No seamoth even, but there is a new sea truck. it's nice

jade wigeon
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...I miss the old vechiles

eternal garnet
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well the prawn is here

jade wigeon
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Ok

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i heard there is a new prawn..is that true?

eternal garnet
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it's slightly upgraded, mostly that it can now boost forward, not just up

jade wigeon
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oh

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is there anything else cool

eternal garnet
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Which makes a big difference

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Ice. Cold mechanic. (yay, you can now freeze to death). A land bike (that gets some hate, but I like it)

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There is more land area

sudden kernel
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I would say below zero is worth it but that’s because I’m a mega fan and I’m interested in the story and and want to play sub 3.

sudden kernel
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For an average gamer though it’s a bit steep.

eternal garnet
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it's a very beautiful game. And there's a jukebox. The story is kinda good

jade wigeon
sudden kernel
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Seatruck prawn suit and snowfox

jade wigeon
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vechiles is what im after for

deep kettle
eternal garnet
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with a fully upgraded truck, you can craft, dock the prawn and have storage. But you can't build in it

sudden kernel
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Prawn suit comes in the game but isnt the same use. The game BZ doesn’t get as deep and the places you do go is better with seatruck. Seatruck is really good in basically almost every regard except it can be a pain to manoeuvre. Snowfox can be fun to use but isnt very useful as prawn suit is better on land since your more protected that way and have storage.

bold monolith
deep kettle
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Ah alright.

bold monolith
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But for the most part you'll read "yes".

sudden kernel
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I’d say personally in conclusion, it’s worth getting it.

jade wigeon
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THANKS GUYS

urban wagon
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ciao

chrome cedar
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If you're on the fence about buying it, wait for a sale for whatever platform you'll be playing on (Steam, Xbox, PS4/5, Switch)

urban wagon
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ma a chi dici

eternal garnet
urban wagon
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the message above said to me?

eternal garnet
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yes. Si

urban wagon
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but I'm already hiding subnautica

eternal garnet
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hiding? Don't understand

urban wagon
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let it be

sudden kernel
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I think there’s a sale on rn actually

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Well there is for subnautica on PS anyway.

chrome cedar
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I was watching a speed run of BZ earlier to figure how they were saving so much time over what I’ve been able to do so far. Supposedly it was a glitchless run, but they used some trick where they would get somewhere then die to return to the drop pod, but never lost any belongings. Anyone know what’s up with that? Old version of the game?

fervent crater
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meatie is the goat of below zero

broken badge
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But yeah that doesn’t sound right, you’d lose stuff when you die

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I never played back in early access, but losing stuff on death would seem pretty fundamental since that’s how things work in Subnautica

chrome cedar
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Mods would seem to disqualify it as a glitchless run, to me at least. But I’m not finding anything that explains it.

inner crown
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this ends today

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where did bro go

inner crown
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Where is this cache

sacred jungle
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Somewhere

inner crown
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wow so useful...

inner crown
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its... over

bold monolith
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Remember that you keep one item when you die and each time you enter a base you save all items. Also some are key items that are never lost.

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But yes, mods are banned in speedruns.

sacred jungle
flint wind
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Im so afriad of the ||iceworms in the arctic spires||, what should i do?

bold monolith
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Use the Prawn Suit.

flint wind
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still scary, what if it gets damaged and i have to go outside to repair it 😨

bold monolith
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Perhaps, but it's the best I can suggest.

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As you'll be more safe in it than on foot or using your snowfox.

sacred jungle
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but snowfox fast

clever crow
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fox slow((( grapling arm faster((

flint wind
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^

meager crescent
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just bunnyhop even without grappling arm and you'll get further without injury than on a snowfox

leaden sphinx
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alright, so, i came to the ||crystal caves biome|| to get ||kyanite, or scan prawn suit fragments.|| well, this is what greeted me

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i had a heart attack from that

lament bone
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You can slow walk & the ice worms and won’t hear you. It’s a neat detail I found out a while back

leaden sphinx
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is this normal

bold monolith
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No.

inner crown
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like the animation

leaden sphinx
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i got attacked twice

inner crown
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ehh not dangerous with a perimeter defence

leaden sphinx
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yea i used that

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it still jumpscared me

chrome cedar
bold monolith
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Timestamp?

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In the sanctuary it's because you can't drop the items there.

inner crown
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i will have fun getting back to the surface

chrome cedar
light frost
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Hey I am seem to have invisible wall problems

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when I am trying to get some rocks it doesn't resgistar at all

grizzled nest
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DO YOU LIKE IT?

eternal garnet
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Very off topic. Go #art-room

broken badge
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Lol, meatie wrote it too😂

eternal garnet
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yes but I failed to get a link to it

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because there's an emoji

broken badge
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For some reason that channel is hard to get the link to prompt

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Oh is that why? Because the emoji in the name?

grizzled nest
broken badge
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It’s fine, just letting you know there’s a channel to show artwork inkirbythumbsup

keen schooner
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It's easy to get a link on mobile lol

waxen trail
inner crown
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i managed to mess my camera up lol

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using commands of course

eternal garnet
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yes, that tends to stay until you restart BZ (possibly Load)

inner crown
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i used the command to skip to the end of the game and|| alan ||is now voice which is funny

eternal garnet
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||he's here standing, or he should be||

inner crown
eternal garnet
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next to you in the screenshot

inner crown
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and i despawned the ship

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what is that

eternal garnet
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that's probably "pause". TRy speed 0.1, a float value

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the cube? no idea

inner crown
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this is 2d???
i had no idea

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my illusion is ahttered

eternal garnet
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it's a background, yes

inner crown
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i wonder what the next game is gonna be about

eternal garnet
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Revealing: Water. Fish.

chrome cedar
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Rocks

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Subnautica 2: We're gonna need a bigger boat.

eternal garnet
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swimsuits Diving suits'

inner crown
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I would to know what happens to robin and alan

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After they go through the teleporter

eternal garnet
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well, obviously. You spoiled a bit there

chrome cedar
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We may not find out, as it's supposedly a sequel to the original game, and may not tie in to BZ at all.

sacred jungle
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Just rebuild alls his stuff

flint wind
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bruhh i thought i finished the game :/

eternal garnet
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only 15 min left tho. If you want

flint wind
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need to go to barber in 15 minutes 🥹

sacred jungle
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Ok

flint wind
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Ok

inner crown
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oh wait that was so late

atomic nexus
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How did Maida survive the Karhaa disease?

eternal garnet
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There are several theories. She did eat a lot of reaper meat, which is a top predator, so it eats fishes with enzyme and concentrate it. Reapers also did not get infected.
Maida also ate lots of golden peepers. Also she is too stubborn to die. Natural immunity is also a thing

sacred jungle
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I think because of || the reaper meat ||

sacred jungle
chrome cedar
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Nothing kills her, she kills it first.

atomic nexus
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She realized “oh sh#t, this magical white box with a green plus heals me!”

chrome cedar
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Also, we really don't know how long the disease takes to progress in humans before they die, so she may still been infected leading up to the events in the first game and was cured along with everything else afterwards, with her having no knowledge of why.

eternal garnet
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but we do, we got the disease to progress in subnautica

atomic nexus
eternal garnet
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Apparently, finding an alien power facility progresses the disease greatly

chrome cedar
atomic horizon
atomic nexus
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Pod 12 could’ve also had some preexisting seal issues

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And immune systems vary

eternal garnet
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those darn seals, bumping my lifepod

chrome cedar
#

They just want hugs and cuddles.

sudden kernel
#

Hello Ello ello. How is everyone doing.

thorn inlet
#

I think there was one person, ever, that for some reason just stopped having HIV, cuz luck

eternal garnet
#

probably also a lot of people who didn't get it despite being infected

#

I meant exposed, there

next current
#

Lots of Peeper fish.

thorn inlet
#

maybe she ate ||alpha|| peeper

eternal garnet
#

the enzyme leakers are called golden peepers, and yes she did

thorn inlet
eternal garnet
#

"Peeper with a golden trail"
Many names

thorn inlet
#

no like, the PDA entry says ||"enzyme host peeper"||

eternal garnet
#

Things can still have several names, regardless of PDA.

thorn inlet
eternal garnet
#

no I meant to correct you

#

but you CAN call them alpha if you like

thorn inlet
#

||alpha peeper|| has nothing to do with ||enzyme host peeper||

#

||alpha peeper|| is a completely different thing

eternal garnet
#

is it a thing?

clever crow
#

thingn't

flint wind
#

i mean idk how to get to outpost zero but im really close

#

i have gone up there in the past though

eternal garnet
#

just under water

#

to the east of some ice fruit

flint wind
#

i remember there was a hole filled with penguins that you could go up from

flint wind
eternal garnet
#

no. the green glowy things

#

that grow under ice

tacit tangle
#

is bz worth it

eternal garnet
#

elephant foot shape fruit

eternal garnet
#

It's certainly beautiful. And jukebox.

tacit tangle
#

jukebox is honestly one of my favorite parts from what i’ve seen

#

but is the ||seatruck|| controlling clunky like the cyclops?

#

if it is i’m gonna cry 🙏

eternal garnet
#

no, it's much more seamothy

flint wind
#

its better than the first one for me

tacit tangle
#

ooooo seamoth controls are the easiest imo, thank you sm for answers

tacit tangle
eternal garnet
#

ahh you will. Someday.

flint wind
eternal garnet
#

yes. That looks like the spot too, to the right and back

#

Maybe, that is

tacit tangle
#

i think once adhd gets bored of it this time, i’ll come back to in in a few months and kinda redo everything i lost but fr rn ima let the first game rest 🤣

flint wind
#

think i found it

thorn inlet
eternal garnet
#

both I'd say

tacit tangle
flint wind
#

wait i just found out ||i have been to the gate facitility before finding alan||

#

it was locked though

eternal garnet
#

that's fine to do, and gives you cure clues

#

well, that's in Zero

flint wind
eternal garnet
#

that is kinda rare

thorn inlet
eternal garnet
#

I can recite 50 digits of Pi. Not that many really

tacit tangle
flint wind
tacit tangle
#

wait what is physics

#

isn’t it like guessing how things can happen

eternal garnet
#

it's the thing you're good at

thorn inlet
#

no

flint wind
#

physics is engineering under perfect conditions

tacit tangle
#

like if you can make a jump from point a from point b just on looking

eternal garnet
#

psychic abilities? A vague term

flint wind
#

or is engineering physics under bad conditions 🤔

eternal garnet
tacit tangle
# thorn inlet hmm, what?

like if i’m playing roblox, i can just tell if i’m going to be able to do a jump or not just on how high it is

thorn inlet
#

ok lol, that is kinda normal

tacit tangle
#

like idk anything abt roblox or how it’s measured but i can do it so easily

lucid gate
tacit tangle
flint wind
#

discord moderator moment

thorn inlet
eternal garnet
#

yes yes, below zero keepcalm

flint wind
#

our IQ is below zero so it counts

tacit tangle
thorn inlet
#

also normal

flint wind
thorn inlet
#

I think this is a "when you have a hammer everything looks like a nail" situation

tacit tangle
#

what’s that

thorn inlet
#

you have ASD and ADHD, so everything about seems to be because of that

eternal garnet
#

if you mean the image, do not click spoilers until you finish game

chrome cedar
tacit tangle
thorn inlet
#

lol, same

tacit tangle
#

is there any other symptoms of autistim i didn’t know abt?? i didn’t know tism made you have a dang superpower 😭

eternal garnet
#

autism has many types. I have a little aspergers, which makes me good at my job, coding

flint wind
#

it was just my bad thinking autism makes you have superpowers, that would be so cool though

chrome cedar
eternal garnet
#

yes, I know.
It also makes me arrogant and know-it-all, but I have learnt to control it to not drive people crazy

#

I'm old

tacit tangle
#

i think with the superpower thing, i just haven’t realized what mine is yet 😭 ik i have one but i can’t really pinpoint it

chrome cedar
eternal garnet
#

I would Never admit being wrong. I have learnt to, but it took many years

chrome cedar
#

For me it's a rare thing (at work), so I always make a big deal of pointing it out.

#

Shows how great I am that I admit such things...

eternal garnet
#

Know when it's appropriate. If people go "sure, whatever" you probably went too far

chrome cedar
#

If anything it cuts down on my social interactions. Bonus!

eternal garnet
#

most of us need more of those

chrome cedar
#

Bonuses?

flint wind
#

below zero ending >>>> original ending

eternal garnet
#

The less interactions you have, the more they scare you and make you uncomfortable

chrome cedar
#

Somewhat I suppose.

eternal garnet
#

But um, this is very off topic, again

eternal garnet
#

Have more of them, make it normality. This is good

flint wind
#

||seeing the architect city + going on a trip with alan is much better than seeing the sea emperor and a bunch of lights||

#

woops almost

eternal garnet
#

yes, I like it, and it answers all the questions we had oops sarcasm there

waxen trail
#

Hey besties

lament bone
#

I think I need a long window wall and a short window wall.

#

LARGE!! advanced base building overhaul

#

(Spoiler[?]) Something like this:

chrome cedar
#

That would be cool.

broken badge
#

Big windows would’ve been very nice indeed

chrome cedar
#

Larger surface area would need to be thicker for structural integrity, so obviously more glass for the width plus thickness.

broken badge
#

Ok but maybe you meant that for Subnautica chat?rooThink1
It is beautiful, I agree💯

lucid gate
#

im really tired

turbid ether
#

How big is BZ's map

sacred jungle
#

Big enough to accidently fond something that you need later

turbid ether
sacred jungle
#

When i got the seatruck i was just driving under the icebergs and found eye yellies. Litterly 7 hours later i realised i was right next to the glacial bay dock

sacred jungle
turbid ether
#

Okay then my pc won't have that much problem about this game

#

Thank you

sacred jungle
#

Np

tribal bridge
#

Bruh I just got below zero and sea monkeys are so annoying💀

#

I hate how happy they are

steel stream
#

At some point of the game you might learn to love them...

turbid ether
#

Just don't kill them

tribal bridge
sudden kernel
#

Then….their dead.

turbid ether
tribal bridge
turbid ether
#

It is about Sea monkeys behaviour

tribal bridge
turbid ether
tribal bridge
#

Also is the mineral detector worth using?

tribal bridge
turbid ether
sudden kernel
#

I would say not.

#

The mineral detector can help find items sure buts it quite slow and once your actually in the right area for the materials you want it’s probably faster just swimming around rather than using the mineral detector.

#

But that’s just me.

tribal bridge
sudden kernel
#

Yeah it ain’t worth it in my oppinion.

#

I would say the only use for it really is if you don’t know where certain minerals spawn so once you enter a new biome you just use it to see what there is. But even then I don’t think that does too much.

steel stream
sacred jungle
#

100%

sudden kernel
#

Tbh I don’t use it very often. I think it gives a list as long as the item is within range.

#

I think from this discussion. Some people love it and some hate it😂

bold monolith
#

The mineral detector works the same as the scanner room, by swimming, you populate their database (it is shared).

#

In this game, the database is saved though.

sacred jungle
#

I only used it for lead.

#

Well

bold monolith
#

So when you reload you have the list right away.

sacred jungle
#

Mostly

sudden kernel
#

I just built scanner rooms in every biome so I can Just use them when I need something in that said biome.

carmine bobcat
#

smart

jagged fractal
#

guys whats this huge iceberg that my pda told me was hollow (dont answer if big spoilers)

mortal moth
#

yo anyone knows where the jet booster might be?

lime grove
#

the what

mortal moth
#

the jet booster

eternal garnet
mortal moth
#

its like an upgrade for the prawn

lime grove
#

the jump jet upgrade?

mortal moth
lime grove
#

the heck is that

eternal garnet
#

same thing. Translation issue

lime grove
#

ok

mortal moth
#

it boosts the jet of the prawn suit

#

so its a jet booster

eternal garnet
#

I answered. it's halfway down the mine

mortal moth
#

wait what dont tell me its called diffrently

#

ive been calling it the jet booster for ages

eternal garnet
#

it is in english yes

mortal moth
#

in what other language is "jet booster" jet booster

eternal garnet
#

the name is jump jet thingy

#

roughly

#

it's on the ground, no crafting necessary

bold monolith
#

I think you're trolling at this point.

jade wigeon
#

Needless to say, I keep her in check

bold monolith
#

That's some trolling dedication.

#

Every message since is asking the same question.

sacred jungle
#

The upgrade for the jump for prawn is in || the koppa mining site ||

#

Th eres your answer @mortal moth

mortal moth
sacred jungle
#

I dont read everything

bold monolith
#

I hope you will find it. Two years need celebration.

sacred jungle
#

!@#% Spotify. All my homies listen to subnautica below zero sound track

chrome cedar
#

Is there some trick I'm missing to running on land? It's supposed to be L3, but I've never gotten that to work. Using Xbox controller on my Steam Deck, but previously was on PS4 and had same issue.

steel stream
#

Same, never been able to use L3 for running on PS4

chrome cedar
#

Glad it isn't just me then! LOL

steel stream
#

But R3 works for taking screenshots...accidentally taken lots of screenshots in panic situations, lol

chrome cedar
#

I hit R3 all the time and take screenshots by mistake... I tend to jam the controls when I get in some situations.

lime grove
#

do you guys are sure you got the run option on toggle or hold

chrome cedar
#

I 'think' I've tried both?

lime grove
#

i got it on toggle and it works

#

also how does speed boost work on prawn

chrome cedar
#

I can try both again later when I'm home. I don't think I ever had that working either, it's L3 also, right?

lime grove
#

ye L3

#

if you didnt change it

chrome cedar
#

I'll play with it tonight again. I haven't changed any of the control mappings.

sacred jungle
#

Oh yeah in the first game i only realised i could jump when i got to the aurora...

#

I already had a base and seamoth but never know i could jump💀 i never used the triangle

#

Imma try rebinding the run button tomorrow

broken badge
#

There’s not a lot of need for running tbh in Subnautica😅

#

Oh you mean in BZ. Still don’t think I used run much in BZ

sand grove
sacred jungle
#

Woow

#

When did you take that pics

#

Thats amazing

eternal garnet
#

Has to be intro, that's the only meteor storm

chrome cedar
chrome cedar
broken badge
#

When they posted initially in Subnautica chat, they said they used night mode

chrome cedar
#

Ahh...

broken badge
#

But since it was the wrong channel, I had them move it over here

chrome cedar
#

I absoluately love the weather effects in BZ. Unless it's fog and I'm trying to navigate, then it stinks. ROFL

broken badge
#

Yeah that deep fog can be thick
That’s why I wish there was a nice photo mode for BZ
Maybe next game🤞

#

Because when you just turn the weather effects off using custom settings, it’s just…uh, very glaring resultohno Not what I really want to achieve😅

sacred jungle
#

Tbh. When i was playing subnautica and didnt know subnautica below zero existed i hoped that in the next game (aka below zero) there would be more weather things. And boy did I get blasted away by the beautiful weather

chrome cedar
#

Lightning is especially cool. I've almost been hit a few times.

sacred jungle
#

Btw can you get hit by lightning in below zero

sacred jungle
chrome cedar
sacred jungle
#

Could be cool to add lightning rods on land and have it get power

chrome cedar
#

1.21 Gigawatts! Great Scott!

sacred jungle
#

I n f i n i t e p o w e r

#

Btw im gonna sleep. Been a long day

chrome cedar
#

They usually are... 😉

steel stream
# chrome cedar Is there some trick I'm missing to running on land? It's supposed to be L3, but...

I tested now running with Subnautica in PS4: Seems like with the default setting (keep L3 pressed for running) the player runs all the time. With setting 'keep L3 pressed for walking' i can either run when moving normally or walk when pressing the left stick down when moving. Also option 'press L3 to change between walking and running' works for both speeds.
With the default setting the speed is always the same, and comparing to other options, it's running speed all the time.

chrome cedar
#

R3? That's normally the screenshot.

steel stream
#

L3...typo

chrome cedar
#

Heading home from work shortly, gonna play with this.

steel stream
#

Corrected above

#

Tested also with below zero, and same thing. Keep pressed for walking or press to change worh with both speeds. Keep pressed for running runs all the time

chrome cedar
#

Maybe I'm already running all the time? Dunno...

steel stream
#

Prawn actually uses the boost power when keeping L3 pressed while moving, but I can't tell if it moves faster...at least on land ot seems to be same speed, underwater there could be some difference.

eternal garnet
#

prawn: go 1.4 times faster, press W+A or W+D

#

(forward + sideway)

chrome cedar
#

Tested here, hold to run and hold to walk appeared to be identical. Changing it to toggle, I then saw a difference in speed. Comparing a set distance, I saw running as about 1.33 times greater, 12 seconds vs 9 for the distance I used.

#

So apparently I was running all along. LoL

lime grove
#

I like having the toggle option

worn sandal
#

||So I am killing every leviathan on my playthrough. And I was killing one of the Chelicerate in the Tree Spires. I hook it with my grapple arm and start punching it, but since they swim away when hit when I finally kill it I was on the void, sooo this image is something...||

eternal garnet
#

as you will soon notice, void chelis respawn infinitely, up to 3 at a time

worn sandal
#

I realize that by the hard way

#

But fighting 3 leviathans with doom music in the background was fun (Yes I had Rip & Tear on spotify rolling on the background)

jade wigeon
#

hey i wanna know about below zero

#

an yone hav adivcie?

eternal garnet
#

bit more specific?

#

otherwise I just say: Save often. Explore everywhere

next current
#

Don't die. That's always a good piece of advice.

waxen trail
#

Thar she blows

tacit comet
#

Cool picture! slugsparkle

waxen trail
#

ty ty

chrome cedar
sacred jungle
#

Dont forget to swim

upper lodge
#

Good advice

junior skiff
#

thats my advice

sacred jungle
#

Sea monke took my scanner and I cant find it back

#

I immediatly lost the monkd when it took the scanner

#

Grrr

#

Should i make a new one

#

Im angy now

eternal garnet
#

it's very cheap to make

noble hill
#

And the only "expensive" part is the battery which can be taken out if you do ever find the old one too.

chrome cedar
#

Put tools away around sea monkeys starting out, they aren't a problem later in the game.

azure ginkgo
#

Evrybody question

#

How do should i start to make a base in the void

hollow fulcrum
sacred jungle
sacred jungle
#

Idk if they will behave

#

At some point

white jungle
#

Does hostile creature spawning affect leviathans?

sacred jungle
#

I dunno

tacit thorn
tacit thorn
sacred jungle
sacred jungle
tacit thorn
sacred jungle
#

NOOO

carmine bobcat
#

Canadian

#

Mow

jade wigeon
#

ok thanks

carmine bobcat
azure ginkgo
#

Should i use my ion cubes

tacit thorn
# azure ginkgo Ty

The helpful guy forgot to mention you build compartments from inside not outside. You step outside, you are snack.

azure ginkgo
azure ginkgo
tacit thorn
azure ginkgo
#

Yeah

#

But i'll still do it

#

Altho first gonna make a new prawnsuit

tacit thorn
#

Sure, if you manage to reach 1k depth by the ventgarden drop, visit me for a cup of desalinated water. I'll be at my 2.2k break room.

carmine bobcat
#

Hi

tacit thorn
#

Hi, would you like some water? I also have salad and nuts.

carmine bobcat
#

Yes

tacit thorn
#

🚰 🥗 🌰

carmine bobcat
#

Thank you

#

To the void

azure ginkgo
#

Not yet

tacit thorn
#

"To the Void and beyond!"

  • Prawn suit operator famous last words.
azure ginkgo
#

Bruh i need 2 copper

#

*1

eternal garnet
azure ginkgo
#

Void here i come

iron scroll
#

Hey I'm confused what to do after giving the antidote to the leviathan or whatever it is in the ice. Can someone help?

eternal garnet
iron scroll
#

But not sure what next step is in main story

eternal garnet
#

PC: mark some words, click eye. Or, surround it with double ||

eternal garnet
iron scroll
#

Found 2, but no sure where to even look for the next or where to go

#

I assume it's something with ||crystal cave||?

eternal garnet
#

which one missing? ||organs?||

iron scroll
eternal garnet
#

When you get near it, alan will speak. Hint you don't really need: go ||down somewhere at 670m||

iron scroll
#

Alright got you, thanks! :))

#

Not sure if this is a spoiler but ||Is it required for progress at some point to kill the leviathan?||

eternal garnet
#

it is not required

sacred jungle
#

I want to pet it

left sedge
#

something isnt right

eternal garnet
#

oh did you make a seamoth? it's available by commands

left sedge
eternal garnet
#

but it has no skin, so it's blindingly white

sacred jungle
#

The first seamoth

azure ginkgo
eternal garnet
#

no

#

well, let me get a pic from when I tried

next current
#

Seatruck better. It doesn't make you blind when you look at it.

azure ginkgo
azure ginkgo
next current
#

No.

azure ginkgo
#

😐

next current
#

And you wouldn't even be able to mod the Cyclops back in anyways.

azure ginkgo
#

Oh...

#

Well than can you make a better vechile

azure ginkgo
eternal garnet
#

yes, fairly early

azure ginkgo
left sedge
#

Cyclops will always be better

next current
#

Your opinion is your opinion.

eternal garnet
#

they complain because the game isn't exactly like subnautica. There is no winning

azure ginkgo
#

And the map is much smaller

left sedge
eternal garnet
#

it steers like an apartment complex. Not a big fan

azure ginkgo
#

I hope bz gets an update

tacit thorn
#

not likely. devs moved on

azure ginkgo
left sedge
#

it won't have subnautica in the title i think

eternal garnet
#

it might well. We don't know

#

"3.0" is very unlikely, as there is no 2.0

tacit thorn
#

prequel? sidequel?

azure ginkgo
eternal garnet
#

yes. We do not know what it will be named

azure ginkgo
eternal garnet
#

the name is usually a late thing, part of the promotion

left sedge
#

i really hope it has a sort of co-op

eternal garnet
#

are you talking about a 4th subnautica universe game?

azure ginkgo
#

Wait what

left sedge
#

the nexft one

azure ginkgo
#

So much

azure ginkgo
noble hill
#

Unreal engine yeah

eternal garnet
#

Stop using that title. it's just wrong

#

unreal 5 confirmed

azure ginkgo
#

What is the title than

#

Subnautica 3.0?

noble hill
#

No title yet

left sedge
noble hill
#

"Unnamed game set in the subnautica universe"

#

Theres yer title

azure ginkgo
#

🗿💀

eternal garnet
#

working title The next game in the subnautica universe

chrome cedar
azure ginkgo
left sedge
#

i hope it has co-op

azure ginkgo
eternal garnet
#

I hope it's got fish

noble hill
azure ginkgo
eternal garnet
#

there was no reply to this

azure ginkgo
azure ginkgo
noble hill
#

Nah, nah. Drive out 500m into the void and tell em to stay there.

noble hill
#

Yeah

azure ginkgo
noble hill
#

Does BZ have a cuddlefish equivalent i don't recall finding anything

azure ginkgo
#

Are there sea monkey eggs

tacit thorn
steel stream
left sedge
#

subnautica players when you kill the things that want to brutally maul you and eat your organs with the tools the game gives you

azure ginkgo
#

🙂

sacred jungle
noble hill
#

Honestly, i just hope they don't feel trapped by the genre or player expectations if they do ever want to branch out.

That said, I would love to see what kind of world they can fully realize in Unreal, so I do hope the next one is more water survival for that reason.

azure ginkgo
#

(You can only put organic items into the bioreactor)

limpid veldt
#

W Cuddlefish

azure ginkgo
#

They get to live another day

limpid veldt
#

yes

sacred jungle
#

HOWWWW

azure ginkgo
#

🙂

tacit thorn
#

thats og screen

azure ginkgo
#

Creative

bold monolith
#

Creative wasn't your screenshot.

sacred jungle
#

Ignis idk if you know this. But in my vegan run with no story. Will the sea monkes every bring gifts. Because i dont get || alan in the run ||

bold monolith
#

No.

sinful blade
#

can squidsharks attack the seatruck if you arent inside of it?

eternal garnet
#

no, but an accidental bump is possible. don't park at 149

sinful blade
eternal garnet
#

149m if your max is 150

sinful blade
#

oh nah i got the mk2 upgrade

eternal garnet
#

then don't park at 649 lol

sinful blade
#

should i go with seatruck to the architect body cache in deep lilypads?

#

or leave it in the entrance

eternal garnet
#

you can go within 20m of it

#

there are unique resources here: nickel, magnetite, mushrooms, flowering spores

#

and 2 secret eggs

sinful blade
#

ohh so this is where nickel and magnetite are

#

thanks

#

what eggs, the ones from the first game? like the cute fish eggs

eternal garnet
#

pet eggs yes, but this is ||trivalve. Similar, but it can walk on land, and has less eyes||

sinful blade
#

is it in the sanctuary?

eternal garnet
#

no. upper mushroom cave, the opposite direction to the cache. Down, in a small cave under a loop plant

sinful blade
#

is there any command to trigger story events in creative?

waxen trail
#

Helloooo

iron heath
iron heath
#

just got sent back two hours bc I forgot to save

latent wharf
#

hey ive recently just gotten bz and got around 6 hours of playtime then stopped touching it for a week I think but as soon as I got back the game was incredibly laggy(like it took around 20 seconds to turn my camera) and completely unplayable does anybody know what the problem could be? ive tried all the yt videos andnormal subnautica works fine 😦

iron heath
#

:/

latent wharf
iron heath
#

the subnautica engine is wacky

latent wharf
#

btw for some reason when I click windows the lag just stopps lol

iron heath
#

idek

latent wharf
#

crazy

iron heath
#

no autosave + a game that crashes every six minutes

#

awesome

chrome cedar
#

No crashes here….

iron heath
#

lucky

latent wharf
#

man is my game uplayable because of that one baby pengling I kidnapped

#

is dis punishment 😦

iron heath
#

you must return him

#

to break the curse

latent wharf
#

thats gonna take me like 3 days ;-;

iron heath
#

your fault for stealing him 🤷

latent wharf
#

theres so much lag it takes me like 2 minutes to open the hatch

latent wharf
iron heath
#

you have geforce?

latent wharf
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nope

iron heath
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graphics drivers just screw everything up when they need updating

latent wharf
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ive already upddated mines

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if I put 3 pengling posters on my wall will my curse be lifted?

iron heath
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If I put three missing posters of the child I kidnapped on my wall will the police stop chasing me?

latent wharf
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yuh

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I think the police will understand that i didnt mean it (I did)

iron heath
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dude I don't even like bz now I have to replay like two hours 😭

latent wharf
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I only bought bz cuz it was in the bundle

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now it refuses to let me play it

chrome cedar
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Did any prior versions of BZ not randomize fragment locations, specifically sea glide? Or have they always been random?

tidal sequoia
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does anybody know the best fuel for bioreactor

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im so stupid

chrome cedar
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Fish, 1 slot items tend to be higher value for fuel.

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Though if you can plant something in a grow bed, may be easier to have fuel ready.

steel stream
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You can also breed those small fish in alien containment unit next to the bioreactor

carmine bobcat
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Hold I need to know this

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If you wear the headlamp, does that mean you can’t wear anything else like a re-breather

sacred jungle
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Yup

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I never really thought of using it. Probably because it requires an ION battery and not a NORMAL battery

sacred jungle
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I think so...

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Yes it will. It jist takes a long ahh time

bold monolith
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You don't have to charge the flashlight helmet it's infinite. But you do have to craft it, so unlock the ion technology.

sudden kernel
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Hi guys, How is everyone?

sacred jungle
latent wharf
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hey does anybody know why bz could be lagging? its not like a one time thing every time I join theres intense lag to the point where it takes like 10 seconds to turn my camera and theres also lag in the title screen for some reason ive already done stuff like updating my driver

red lagoon
latent wharf
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and for some goofy reason whenever I presss the windows key the water stops lagging in the background???

red lagoon
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check if the cores are all working on the game in task manager

latent wharf
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the cores???

red lagoon
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right click on the game in task manager and go to details right click and set affinity to all cores

latent wharf
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alr thanks ill try that

red lagoon
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problem happend with me in a diff game that my cpu (powerufll) wasn't using all it cores after my second time opening the game

latent wharf
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bru it dosnt let me go to details 😦

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this is so wierd the game dosnt lag and neither does the music whenever I press the windows key but every time im in full screen it lags like crazy

eternal garnet
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so try borderless window. that is not true fullscreen

latent wharf
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nope dosnt work only stops the lag when I press windows for sum reason

azure ginkgo
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Where do i find drill arm fragments

sacred jungle
sudden kernel
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What you guys discussing?

sudden kernel
sacred jungle
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The stuff between crocodilian and matie?

azure ginkgo
sacred jungle
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Iirc

azure ginkgo
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||This happend before rn not in void but what do you do once you go into the void and it auto saves||

sudden kernel
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Lmao

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Stay strong 💪

limpid veldt
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lol

azure ginkgo
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If you go out of game do the mobs respawn?

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Cause if they do than i could just go into the seatruck driver seat and ez

eternal garnet
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smaller creatures respawn, don't even need to reload

sudden kernel
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Like void chelicirate?

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Most creatures don’t respawn except small ones like food ones

eternal garnet
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void chelis respawn continuously, up to 3 of them

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To make sure you die

sudden kernel
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Yeah except them😂

sudden kernel
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Good luck 👍

azure ginkgo
eternal garnet
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but 3 of them?

azure ginkgo
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Mayby once 1 respawns i could try

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Do they dissapear and than spawn again

sudden kernel
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Once you leave the void they do

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I don’t know how much a PDS will keep u alive lol

azure ginkgo
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Buetefull

sudden kernel
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So graceful as it rips you to shreds

azure ginkgo
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Yeah

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Altho only when i sit in the drivers seat

sudden kernel
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Yeah I noticed that recently

azure ginkgo
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Me going out of the seat 1 sec before shadow leviathan attacks

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Game kicks me out of the seatruck

eternal garnet
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these are void chelicerates

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they are 200% size and dead looking

azure ginkgo
eternal garnet
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no, the cheli's skin

azure ginkgo
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After i get out of seatruck

eternal garnet
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looks like its been dead for 3 weeks

azure ginkgo
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Me: hops out of the seatruck: void chelicerates: hello meal welcome to your death

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My laptop so hot i think it gonna explode😐

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I know this not bz but still i found this pic and this cuddle fish is big

noble hill
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Cuddlezilla

azure ginkgo
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Lol

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Wait a minute cuddlefish irl look pretty weird

sudden kernel
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Still cute

eternal garnet
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Cuttlefish. Remarkably smart

azure ginkgo
azure ginkgo
noble hill
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They are different species

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One is a cuttlefish, the other is a cuddlefish :)

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One is a cephalopod found in earth's oceans, and the other is fuel for bioreactors I mean a friend. Yeah. Friends.

noble hill
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Anyway back on BZ, I gotta say I think the twisties are my favourite area in the franchise. A bit cramped but it is gorgeous.