below-zero-chat

[unkempt scroll]

God same. Fully finished BZ but never got to listen to Jukebox. When I am at base reading logs I prefer something calming like Jukebox one. But when I’m exploring I kinda don’t want biome music to not play.

[worn thunder]

And i have that signal?

[unkempt scroll]

So you have the signal but… what is the problem then? You can’t find biome or you can’t find specific location in biome?

[worn thunder]

No i mean like idk if i have that signal and if i do whats the name of it so i can check

[bold monolith]

It should say "Architect Body Cache".

You acquire it if you scanned a few artifacts. Or it's given after a while I don't remember.

[unkempt scroll]

Thx for looking it up. I already wanted to do it myself.

[pliant jetty]

I started ignoring the plot while styling my base and ||Alan|| started being like, yunno there's a plot right?

I was like, fine, while I'm grabbing resources I'll get the parts or whatever

[unkempt scroll]

I think some of his replies are connected with you building certain object. He reacts when you build a bed and a jukebox

[pliant jetty]

Also visiting certain bases

[unkempt scroll]

Oh and sometimes will suggest you to go somewhere too of course.

[pliant jetty]

And then you get like, a 100m ping from him when you are really close

[sleek timber]

I have a plan

for the ||ALAN story|| speedrun

anything else I might need to craft/visit?

[lime grove]

you know that you dont need the snowfox

[sleek timber]

you expect me to run the whole way?

I was thinking either prawn or fox

[eternal garnet]

you know that you don't need the prawn

[lime grove]

i didnt ever use the snowfox

[sleek timber]

but I feel like going on foot will be tedious at best and really hard at worst

[lime grove]

just get some thermoses

[sleek timber]

I'm not planning to use prawn, but I do want to use the snowfox to get to the cache faster

since it's essentially at the very end, and that's a bloody long way to walk

[eternal garnet]

you know that you don't need the truck, seaglide, ultra tank, a base or having fun

[sleek timber]

yes, I am aware that I can just use console commands to force the endgame sequence

[lime grove]

just get 2 tanks and some bladderfish and you have enough oxygen

[eternal garnet]

speedrunners only use seaglide, and only build bases for climbing on

to pass the bridge

And they don't talk to Marge

[sleek timber]

well, considering my current (first and only) playthrough is 35 hours long, anything at 5 hours or less will be a speedrun for me haha

[eternal garnet]

glitchless: 35:31 by reski

[sleek timber]

weirdflexbutok

I want my seatruck

[eternal garnet]

glitchy 23:29

[lime grove]

its called any%

or am i dumb

[sleek timber]

ok so my conclusion is that this plan is perfect and your opinions are irrelevant

[eternal garnet]

yes. any% just means not 100%

Maf, basically, because you do what you want

Hardcore is much, much slower because speedrunners use death to teleport far

[midnight swan]

35 hours and 31 minutes?

[eternal garnet]

no. 35 min

[deep kettle]

35 milliseconds 👀

Got it!

[eternal garnet]

you joke, but minecraft was beaten in 20 seconds, using macros (TAS)

what the hell. 8 seconds now

[lime grove]

what the hell

[carmine bobcat]

table coral feels much more tedious to collect in bz than it was in the original, but maybe thats just me

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah. It’s more rare in BZ than in OG.

I liked that though. In OG table coral is literally everywhere so you just go out of your base to collect it and come back. Really just a chore.

Liked that in BZ you collect it as resource.

[carmine bobcat]

feels like a chore in bz to me, every time I wanna get table coral I have to go to the twisty bridges (I think thats what its called?) and look for the table coral which blends in almost perfectly with the walls (especially at night)

if im being absolutely honest I wouldnt mind it if it was easier to spot them, like maybe changing their color

[west mountain]

In lilypad they are green 🙂, not helpful either

[unkempt scroll]

Why go all out of your way to lillypads to just get some table coral?

[west mountain]

If you are there already you can collect table corals. Some players dont know there are there and they have a different color, which is interesting.

[unkempt scroll]

Alr I guess you have a point. I did not even know they were there either.

Maybe it’s bc I was not looking for them though.

[vast idol]

Farmable table coral

[carmine bobcat]

Finnaly got below zero

[next current]

Nice! Have fun!

[clever crow]

yes. just have 1 o2 tank that will allow you to reach oxygen plants in time

a bit like south-west -ish wise

i always go right when i reach the 200m twisty bridges

[final reef]

sup guys... how do i explore the ||arctic||? especially the area with the|| ice worms||? one of them just nearly killed me (1hp) left and it tore my snow fox to bits

i need to explore it for progress but dont know how

[tacit thorn]

PRAWN

[broken badge]

Or walk

[next current]

You can just cheese the section with a Prawn Suit. Or use Thumpers to stop them from attacking.

[broken badge]

Thumpers…ewww

[tacit thorn]

its not cheese, its proper preparation

[final reef]

i dont get the thumpers haha... what do you mean with cheese?

[final reef]

and that would be?

[next current]

Cheesing = Taking the easy way.

[final reef]

that would be what?

[next current]

Again, the Prawn.

[tacit thorn]

prawn suit. they don't even seem to attack me

[broken badge]

I walk & also use snowfox. Basically you can use whatever you’re most comfortable with

[tacit thorn]

maybe I'm naturally skilled at avoiding the kill zones, but I'd like to believe theyre scared

[broken badge]

I’ve had a prawn destroyed by ice worm & had to reload. So as always, ymmv

[final reef]

sorry, yeah... just read what you wrote wrong haha

[next current]

Nah it's okay.

[hollow fern]

Reloading is cheating except when it’s bullcrap

If I reloaded everytime my cyclops went boom I wouldn’t have like 20 cyclop wrecks on my sub save

[broken badge]

People can play how they like. But the ice worm is exactly why I don’t use the prawn anymore, other than going to drill the ||ion cubes||

I don’t like using prawn, I only use it for drilling. But everyone has their own preferences

[eternal garnet]

bring repair tool everywhere. Repair the bike

[broken badge]

I’ve never ascribed to the whole “save scumming” is bad notion. It’s hypocritical imo. Because people often use other means like glitches & exploits to play, or mods. It’s no different. It all changes the gameplay. And especially in a single player game, who cares

[worn thunder]

i dont have the architect body cache

but i have the skeletal structure

[hollow fern]

Fair enough

[worn thunder]

i have it as a waypoint

[hollow fern]

Then go there?

Ur confusing me

[worn thunder]

yh but i already been there and scanned it

yet theres nothing else happening its complete silence

[eternal garnet]

The game has very minimal handholding. You gotta explore.

Even when it tells you where to go, you have to explore nearby to find other stuff

[worn thunder]

yeah i see i dont rly like that but ima still try to complete it

[eternal garnet]

This is the same as the first game

Actually a little easier here

[worn thunder]

i find the last game much easier tbh

[midnight swan]

Do i only need one ||Hydraulic Fluid|| for the bridge?

[eternal garnet]

yes. And it has no other use

[dusty tree]

Anyone know why not one but BOTH of my praetor suits just disappeared along with their beacon? Also, if I were 1300m below (quite hot down here), how would one go about making another praetor suit? Assuming im boned

mb, prawn suit lol

[latent mantle]

What are you talking about? Below Zero doesn't have a lava zone biome

Idk what would be hot except for the koppa mining site area

Unless you meant to ask that in the regular subnautica chat

[dusty tree]

errr

[latent mantle]

Lol

[dusty tree]

maybe

So the expac doesnt include the old and new stuff?

[latent mantle]

BZ isnt an expansion

Its a whole other game

[dusty tree]

what is life

[latent mantle]

Lol dude you gotta get reading on the description of the games lol

[dusty tree]

Well aside from my apparent lack of attention to detail, have you heard of a bug where prawn suits disappear?

[latent mantle]

Like you mean falling through the floor?

Sorry I mean ground

It happens due to the speed of your frame rate at loading in the terrain fully so you dont clip through it

Like you could be walking in it and then all of a sudden you could just fall

[dusty tree]

Welp

This seems like a pretty big bug, does it not?

[latent mantle]

Technically not a bug

[dusty tree]

I mean user error is a stretch

[latent mantle]

Its the pc that is the problem

If it cant load the frame fast enough thats bound to happen

[sleek timber]

I did it

and guess what?

sub 5 hours, baby!

[next current]

Nice.

[sleek timber]

considering that it's my second playthrough ever, I think that's not bad haha

but also, the only reason I did it is because my main save is glitched

and I can't progress to the end

[carmine bobcat]

I have a 1 day save

The sequel

[midnight swan]

I have to go to ||Artifact Q59|| but i already found it while exploring ||koppa|| much earlier in the game

Lmao

[next current]

Yeah, a lot of people find the ||Alien Statue by accident.||

[midnight swan]

I finally did it!

I made it to ||Phi||!

[next current]

Ngl, I thought you said Phil.

[midnight swan]

Also i just took down my first snow stalker with only thermoblade and bo damage taken. How do i get the fur?

[next current]

You get fur by using the Spy Penglings.

There's also some lying on the ground in some Snowstalker Caves.

[midnight swan]

Ah

[next current]

The devs don't reward the player for killing.

[midnight swan]

That is fair, but the snow stalker did start it.

[next current]

He was only protecting his baby. >:(

[carmine bobcat]

wait, doesnt that mean that the baby snow stalker is now an orphan

[next current]

🤔

😭

[midnight swan]

Had to unstuck because i clipped out of bounds that’s great

I was just walking man

[next current]

Well... it's why it exists.

[midnight swan]

The unstuck didnt get me in bounds

I had to do jt myself

[midnight swan]

Salad is the best food no debate

Just keep a few salads and large filtered waters on you and you’ll be fine

Why does thermos give y out minus h2o

I guess just gameplay

Also how do i get the part of ||Al-An||’s body from the Koppa mining site?

[eternal garnet]

there's none in there

[midnight swan]

Ok

[little haven]

I presume it's bc of coffee being dehydrating.

[carmine bobcat]

Hey I found the easiest way to fly

Get your seatruck stuck but not too stuck by the bridge to ||artic spires|| and you can fly

[queen oasis]

What’s a solution to the big creature that squirts green acid on your underwater truck

Oops supposed to say spoiler

I don’t know how to do it

[broken badge]

Shock it with perimeter defense as soon as it moves to grab you
Assuming you mean the ||shadow|| right?

[coarse karma]

hello

[final reef]

Heya, is there an area where the ||thermal charger|| for the ||prawn ||is useful? havent figured that out yet

[lime grove]

its below zero

[final reef]

not talking about normal sn

[clever crow]

ooooh

[final reef]

talking about bz here

[clever crow]

im stoopid

then no lol

tree spires is good for that but you barely spend time there

[final reef]

cause its in the game... but ive found no are where its useful, except maybe the rare underwater geyser thingies

[clever crow]

makes sense - it's cold

[final reef]

well,so why is it in the game then haha

[clever crow]

propulsion canon is in the game but you don't need it even once

[lime grove]

there is a place which requires it but its just a stash with loot

[steel stream]

The same applies to first game also, and several other items/vehicles/vehicle upgrade modules in both games. Lots of stuff that is not essential to complete the game(s)

[final reef]

True... but they removed other modules that were not of use... so i figured that one too

but alright... that just confused me

[barren swan]

I found a trivalve egg but idk how to hatch it

How can I hatch it

[clever crow]

throw it into aquarium and wait

[barren swan]

Ok

[mystic trench]

Three of the biomes exclusively contain vents

[final reef]

that would be?

twisty bridges iirc

[grave veldt]

A lot of stuff is in twisty bridges

Including mobile vehicle bay fragments

[weak raven]

oh idea what if someone managed to get the teleporter bay and glitch it through a wall. Theoretically you could use this to get out of the map better.

[steel stream]

@barren swan not the aquarium, you need to use alien containment to hatch eggs

[clever crow]

ye the only aquarium that accepts eggs at all

[mystic trench]

literally has “vents” in the name. The others r the spires

[sweet marlin]

how stupid of a idea would it be to just make a bunch of thermal plants at the blowy heat things below the purple spires and just network the power across the map

[eternal garnet]

much better: put one or 3 directly on a lava vent (thermal spires)

purple vents arent very hot

[steel stream]

As far as I know, any power plant only supplies power to one base, so even if you build power transmitters all across the map, you can only power up one base.

[eternal garnet]

That's probably true yes

[sweet marlin]

ye i ment those

transmitters distance was 100 meter between right?

[steel stream]

On the other hand, if you build small compartments and foundations all across the map close enough to each other, you will have only one base...

[sweet marlin]

but also that will look stupid as hell lol

[eternal garnet]

put first transmitter within 4m. Then 100m each, next

[sweet marlin]

epic

[sweet marlin]

also the music in this game is so damned good

hope they get the same composer for the new one

[weak raven]

Yoo this biome looks so cool without the fog

[eternal garnet]

check deep twisty. much cooler

[weak raven]

question can you still teleport into the seatruck bay when its docked

[eternal garnet]

Didn't try, but I don't see why not. The modules are powered by the base

[weak raven]

Nice, that means I have a way in and out of the map

lol

now I just have to do this in survival

If I set up miny bases with tubes going down I can get across the map much easier

[eternal garnet]

the internet is also just a series of tubes

[weak raven]

um ok

[pliant jetty]

I'm kind of bitter nothing of significance was ||below the zero base||

It's the pun of the name.

[midnight swan]

At last.

I did it.

You guys are going to be so furious, but i did it.

[dry obsidian]

this is cursed

your #1 on the most wanted list for kidnapping

[midnight swan]

Yeah it is

[restive wharf]

anyone haves ideas on what can i put on this huge room?

[sick aurora]

I got more designs but scroll awesome bases

[restive wharf]

now that i look closely, the thing u use to control the prawn looks like a thumb up

i did it. i saved the world.

[jolly basin]

Nice work, now go hunt down the rest

Fridays are included in weekends off by the way

[restive wharf]

?????

[jolly basin]

Hunt everyday, 24 hours, until Friday

[restive wharf]

it only took me 3 minutes to kill it

[unkempt scroll]

What method did you use?

[jolly basin]

Tech pistol only takes a couple shots

[restive wharf]

normal fists, he got stuck somewhere in the floor and i could stand on him and then began punching him nonstop

[unkempt scroll]

Luckyyyyyy.

[restive wharf]

ye

what the..

[unkempt scroll]

What? Why are you surprised?

[restive wharf]

blind playthrough

[unkempt scroll]

I think all games are supposed to be experienced blind -_-

[restive wharf]

yeah but no one's safe from curiosity

but i havent seen that yet

[unkempt scroll]

Alright. I honestly used guide for this one. Not because of curiosity but because I was ANNOYED how I have done most things in the game and was still missing ||Architect Organs|| to just finish the game.

I think BZ does a TERRIBLE job with Crystal Caves. There are two Architect Facilities there and ||Alan|| says that he just does not know what exactly are we meant to find. After I found ||Architect Hospital or smth|| I genuinely though I was done with the place.

Well guess what? There is a small trench somewhere in this vast area which you are somehow supposed to find without Sonar Radar from OG Subnautica.

[restive wharf]

i found it accidentally lol

[unkempt scroll]

Luckyyyyyy.

[restive wharf]

nah i just advanced some meters found a dropoff and poof

there it was, i use the purple vents entrance

[steel stream]

Seaglide has a sort of sonar for exploring caves.

[restive wharf]

that minimap that no one uses

[steel stream]

Of course it's a bit more hassle to exit seatruck for using seaglide map...

[restive wharf]

i just watch guides of chemical apes and hylianmom

i had no difficulties with the game since i watched their guides

so i instead just enjoyed the game rather than getting mad at it

[unkempt scroll]

I totally don’t use it. It makes it hard to see where I go.

I used entrance near Marguerite’s house so it was not the case for me.

My connection sucks. I can’t even send messages properly.

[ivory pivot]

Yes, i wish it wasn't so blindingly bright on top of taking third of my screen

Really boggles me why devs chose white color for this

[unkempt scroll]

I also hate how it turns off automatically. I just turn it off all the time lmao.

[ivory pivot]

Probably goes in the same logic with how flashy cables are in this game. Could have been likely done without epilepsy inducing effects.

[somber canyon]

finally decided to finish bz yday

I honestly can't decide which game i prefer. i love both narratives

[unkempt scroll]

You are rare. Most people prefer OG over BZ.

[ivory pivot]

BZ is a bit over the top when it comes to the story but still a great game

[unkempt scroll]

By the way did you guys know that you can ride the belly of Shining Whale? I found that out only in late game.

[lime grove]

you can also interact with the eye of the glow whale

[restive wharf]

no way i found the ||organs place|| again without tutorial 💀
why do i have photographical memory on subnautica but not on exams,quizzes and tests?!

what on christ name is that?

[lime grove]

red crystals cave

[restive wharf]

ooga booga

what can i find there??

magnetite, nickel and stuff?

[lime grove]

those stuff can be found in other biomes

[unkempt scroll]

You can find magnetite in other biomes.

[restive wharf]

well i guess i'll have to abuse sea monkeys then

i guess i'll have to kill someone today

umm guys i need help

my prawn is stuck

[unkempt scroll]

Wdym stuck?

[restive wharf]

yeah um i got inside a building

and the prawn considers it as water and uh

[unkempt scroll]

Like “Oh no captain! I’m stuck! C-captain?! What are doing?!” Stuck?

[restive wharf]

its not letting me out

theres an invisible wall

[unkempt scroll]

If that’s the case you don’t need my help. You know what to do 😈

[restive wharf]

dude i need your help

[unkempt scroll]

You want me to join you?

[lime grove]

did you go inside ||the fabricator base||?

[restive wharf]

y e s .

[lime grove]

that's the problem, you are not meant to get inside it with a prawn

[restive wharf]

so what do i do now?

[ivory pivot]

Reload

[lime grove]

reload your save

[restive wharf]

bro please let me out

[restive wharf]

already did that

i saved inside.

thinking that it would go out after reloading

[lime grove]

if reloading doesnt work then there is one way out of this with the help of Ignis

[restive wharf]

ignis? what is that?

[unkempt scroll]

RIP your Prawn Suit then

[ivory pivot]

The game is still a messy bug fest when it comes to collision and things clipping into places they shouldn't

[restive wharf]

i guess the wall didnt loaded in fast enough

[lime grove]

Ignis, the playtester

[restive wharf]

ummm

i dont know what to do then

[ivory pivot]

You likely won't make it out without prawn, does the game save a previoys save? Not sure

[restive wharf]

no

[unkempt scroll]

Oh come on! They will be fine!

[ivory pivot]

There are likely things like this on google

[unkempt scroll]

@restive wharf you came with seatruck right?

[restive wharf]

shiiii-

its on the entrance

i got it somewhere close

[unkempt scroll]

Oh come one! I’m sure you will be fine! You only need to swim like 953 meters to surface! You have entirety of 225 seconds of oxygen!

Easy Peasy for you!

[restive wharf]

not surface its on the entrance of the caves

[lime grove]

you know the exit isnt right above him

[restive wharf]

but its easy (somewhat)

[ivory pivot]

https://forums.unknownworlds.com/discussion/153354/prawn-stuck-in-cave

will need to teleport using console

[lime grove]

how do you even teleport a prawn

[unkempt scroll]

Craig McGill survived under worse circumstances! I’m sure if he did you can do it too!

[restive wharf]

💀

it spawns a whole new freaking prawn

[unkempt scroll]

@restive wharf are you on hardcore?

[restive wharf]

no its my 1st time

why would i play on hardcore on my 1st time?

[unkempt scroll]

Then come on! Just save game and give it a shot! I’m sure you can do it! What can possibly go wrong???

[lime grove]

he already saved inside

[restive wharf]

the shadow leviathan chasing me

[restive wharf]

he means saving and rushing to the seatruck

[ivory pivot]

no way you can swim outside of that cave without dying so yeah, just take stuff from prawn and die

[unkempt scroll]

Don’t be so pessimistic!

[lime grove]

you know he'll lose the stuff

[unkempt scroll]

I’m sure it’s possible!

[restive wharf]

entrance, entrance

its not on the freaking surface

its close

imma just give it a shot

brb lads

[ivory pivot]

didn't occur to me, that case better leave them there

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah! You can make it with that attitude!

[restive wharf]

thats only for character i assume

[lime grove]

you know it doesnt work on vehicles

[restive wharf]

LEEEROY

JEEEENKINS

[unkempt scroll]

You HAVE to do that in first game if you want to mine cubes.

[ivory pivot]

i used seamoth in first game facilities

but also prawn in the final one

for some reason game doesn't let you in with prawn in BZ

[restive wharf]

there... there are T W O shadows

[ivory pivot]

no need to be sarcastic, there are facilities with water inside

[restive wharf]

are there bladderfishes in that biome?

[unkempt scroll]

There are actually.

[restive wharf]

then i can make it out lol

they give 15s of oxygen when eaten raw

[unkempt scroll]

Told you so!

[restive wharf]

just like a guy made it from lr to surface

aaah shi-

wait can terraformer delete the invisible wall?

[unkempt scroll]

No!

[restive wharf]

do you know?

[unkempt scroll]

Idk but don’t get distracted! Your current mission is making it to SeaTruck!

Forget about your Prawn Suit.

[restive wharf]

i got lost somewhere, found 3 shadow leviathans in the way

[unkempt scroll]

That’s fiiiiiine. Keep going.

[restive wharf]

i thought you meant that i take the seatruck back there, and try docking it

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah but to do that you need seatruck first.

[restive wharf]

pda being funi: WARNING: 30 secs of oxygen remaining'' i heard that when getting attacked by a shadow leviathan

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah PDA totally has a sense of humour!

[restive wharf]

i died.

[ivory pivot]

surprising

[unkempt scroll]

Lmao.

I’m sure you can do it in the end if you keep trying.

[restive wharf]

i quitted and realoded, i'm retrying

[unkempt scroll]

That’s the spirit!

[restive wharf]

imma just use a oxygen cheat fuq it lol

[unkempt scroll]

Boo!

Craig McGill would never do that!

[restive wharf]

idc

i'm robin in game so

y a y

[unkempt scroll]

Boooo! Cheater!

[restive wharf]

i actually thought about it and i didnt cheated

[unkempt scroll]

How?

[restive wharf]

i found a ton of bladderfishes luckily

[unkempt scroll]

You were still using a cheat -_-

[restive wharf]

''and what about thirst'' i said some hours ago: ''in and out, 20 minute adventure'' and brought water (a lot)

[restive wharf]

no, i didnt

[unkempt scroll]

Then what is this! Dawn you should have specified that you did not use it in the end… I would be so happy 4 u!

[restive wharf]

i replantated it and i didnt

[restive wharf]

.

[ivory pivot]

who gives a fudge, the problem was initiated by a bug in the game

[restive wharf]

shi-

the invisible wall is too big

[unkempt scroll]

I do. Man made it to the Seatruck despite only having 225 seconds of oxygen and 1087 meters gap.

Legend!

[unkempt scroll]

Don’t worry it’s about journey not the destination!

[restive wharf]

just can go to there

[unkempt scroll]

Also you will need to create a new Prawn Suit.

[restive wharf]

man... i'm devastated

my prawn... my poor prawn

[ivory pivot]

maybe, but calling him a cheat was quite a stretch

i'd be more impressed if somebody made it down there swimming on their first try

[unkempt scroll]

Well yeah bc at first he said he was gonna use cheats but in the end he did not!

[unkempt scroll]

Legend! You are just being picky!

[restive wharf]

ok i got an idea, i might just spawn a shadow leviathan and with the grab i might get out

[ivory pivot]

inside the facility?

[restive wharf]

yeah kinda outside

[ivory pivot]

if the barrier holds then it shouldn't be able to grab your prawn that is inside

[unkempt scroll]

I got the idea how to get your prawn suit out without cheats!

[restive wharf]

how?!

[unkempt scroll]

Create another Prawn Suit! Bring it inside! Push your previous Prawn suit with it!

Problem solved!

[restive wharf]

that wouldnt work

[unkempt scroll]

Have you tried?

[ivory pivot]

there are two obvious problems there, try to find them

[unkempt scroll]

I do not need to try. My plan is flawless!

You are just being picky!

[restive wharf]

does the warp command work in vehicles?

[ivory pivot]

you are being melodramatic

[restive wharf]

both of the prawns not being able to get out?

[ivory pivot]

that's one thing, yeah

[restive wharf]

and the invisible wall

[unkempt scroll]

Ah you can’t be sure that’s gonna happen!

At least one of them might even make it!

[restive wharf]

im trying to terraform

but idk how

[ivory pivot]

can't terraform invisible wall, that prawn is gone

[restive wharf]

no idiot the floor

or a wall

[unkempt scroll]

Hey! Don’t be rude to others!

[restive wharf]

man i loved that prawn

so how do i destroy the prawn?

[weak raven]

Oh did he get their prawn stuck at the bottom of the map

[restive wharf]

no on the ||fabricator base||

i'm... i'm going to destroy it removing the depth module

[restive wharf]

you have any solutions?

[unkempt scroll]

Have you tried grappling arm?

[restive wharf]

yes

the first pic i send of me being stuck i was grappling there

[restive wharf]

as you can see, the grappling arm is trying to grapple out

@weak raven you have any solutions YES OR NO?

[weak raven]

oh no

its suck there

[ivory pivot]

that was uncalled for. The invisible barrier is likely around the whole cave though, since there is air inside, unlike outside where is water. Therefore a fair assumption is that you can't terraform out. As already said in the link i posted earlier.

[weak raven]

the best thing to do I grab all the upgrades and click unstuck to get back to your base

[unkempt scroll]

Yes. @restive wharf how dare you? Read the rules.

[restive wharf]

well, ima empty it out, get the depth mode out, and suffer because i loved that prawn

[bold monolith]

Ignis can help you if you give him your save file.

[restive wharf]

how do i do that?

[bold monolith]

As TomTom said.

Go back in the main menu, stay there. Then right click on the game, properties, local files, browse.

SNAppData/SavedGames/slot0000.

I need global-objects.bin.

Drag and drop here or in DM.

You can find three fragments without a laser cutter.

So it's optional.

No, the one close to Delta has two.

[restive wharf]

you can find a reinforced dive suit fragment there

[eternal garnet]

craft test override module, and put it into the tower

Then push the console button

How did you find the need for a parallell unit?

that may be the problem lol.<
Scan the test override thing on Marge's livingroom table

And grab an item from the floor

[midnight swan]

Yes my bad

[eternal garnet]

possibly rushing

[midnight swan]

Sorry j thought you were asking where to find the ||PPU|| blueprint

[restive wharf]

guys do i have to relaunch the game for the achievements to work?

[lime grove]

if you used commands then you wont get achievements anymore

[restive wharf]

dangit

i used them to try and get my prawn back

(i got my prawn back yay!)

[eternal garnet]

if you are on PC, installing Qmodloader should clear the cheat flag that is stored in your save

[restive wharf]

just installing it?

[eternal garnet]

yes

it's a mod loader. You don't need to add any mods

[restive wharf]

then afterwards i can just delete it right?

[eternal garnet]

yes, once you got them

[restive wharf]

ok

(i'm glad that i saved before building ||alan's body||)

i just found only a subnautica one, is the method the same for bz?

[eternal garnet]

I believe the file is BZ specific

https://snm.crd.co/#install-bz

(I don't think you need SMLhelper)

[restive wharf]

@eternal garnet do i need to restart the game for the thing to be added correctly?

[eternal garnet]

of course

then load your save. Hopefully achievements should come in

[restive wharf]

gosh i am going to lose this

[eternal garnet]

no, your saves aren't at risk

[restive wharf]

no just the thing that says for how many hours i've been playing

just that

[eternal garnet]

😛 I it's good to restart every few hours, improves performance and stability

[restive wharf]

it never does

i always have the same fps, the same freaking 20 fps

[eternal garnet]

thats good, I suppose. Not the FPS

[restive wharf]

you mean for my pc in general

[eternal garnet]

I dunno. Deteiorating performance is more caused by game bugs / memory leaks

But it's super common, and I've seen it in BZ. Long ago

[steel stream]

Continue whatever tasks you were doing before going there...||search for al-an's body parts, find out what happened to Sam||

[restive wharf]

according to a guy from where i built my pc at, if the SSD is full, the performance will be affected by alot

[eternal garnet]

this is true, but more importantly, SSD will age a lot faster then

[restive wharf]

i have 178GB free

[eternal garnet]

So stay above 10G free, 30 if you can

[restive wharf]

sure i can

i swear as soon as i close the game, my friend is actually going to wake up, watch the pic i sent of my profile saying that i've been playing for more than 10 hours, he's gonna check and its gonna say ''just started playing'' and hes gonna say: nah bro stop the cap u just started playing

[eternal garnet]

you CAN do this later...

[restive wharf]

i'm about to ||build alan's body||

soooo i'm not gonna wait until 5PM

yay i got my achievements back

[eternal garnet]

nice. To remove Qmod delete folder bepinex. It's harmless... until next game update

so if not doing mods, best to delete it

[restive wharf]

i know that

it said how to uninstall in the page

Back to where it all started.

[sleek timber]

does anyone else find that BZ has many more instances of inaccessible materials compared to SN?

particularly when you use the scanner room

a lot of the times the nodes it shows are just stuck under textures and you can't reach them

[restive wharf]

i never used a scanner room so i'll say no

[clever crow]

yes.

but i heard you can use grav traps to get them

[sleek timber]

o_O

I tried propulsion cannon, but grav trap is an interesting idea

[clever crow]

did it help?

[sleek timber]

only in a couple cases

[restive wharf]

no freaking way

this is where one of the first versions began

[sleek timber]

usually if you can latch onto something with a cannon, then you can grab it with your hand too

it mostly helps with ore veins in the glacial areas

but I'm sure that's intentional - some of the veins are actually blocked off with large ice rocks, so you have to cannon them off to get all the minerals

but some ore veins are actually glitched

I found that spy pengling also helps sometimes

[sleek timber]

lemme try this

@clever crow thanks haha - it worked

at least with a couple pieces, I'll try some others

lmao

[unkempt bane]

Is there a decent map with coords? Im having a hard time finding stuff!

[sleek timber]

https://mapgenie.io/subnautica-below-zero/maps/world

@carmine bobcat ^ you can use this for rubies too

it has spoilers though

shows you all the plot locations too

[unkempt bane]

I dont see map coords on that map though?

[sleek timber]

oh yeah nvm, I think you only get coords if you log in there

or something...

[unkempt bane]

I am logged in

[sleek timber]

but I've just been using it to do normal navigation. Like, see a location and go to it based on directions

[cunning finch]

I just noticed
The point that your body temp goes down is like. Only 7° celsius??? And you'll apparently start freezing to death? What??

[sleek timber]

it doesn't say celcius

but safe to assume that for the sake of understandable game design, devs made it simple - you have 100 points of "heat", and when it gets to 0 you die

so it's just arbitrary temperature units

[cunning finch]

°C is celsius. Unless there's another temp measurement using c

[sleek timber]

oh I think I get it

[cunning finch]

But either way, 7°C is shorts weather.

[sleek timber]

you mean when the temperature shows 7 degrees, your body heat starts to go down?

[sleek timber]

weird flex, but ok

[cunning finch]

Yeah. Which is confusing, cause i'd expect that to start more around -10° or so.

[sleek timber]

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/09/health/09brody.html

Most cases occur in air temperatures of 30 to 50 degrees. But people can succumb to overexposure even at 60 or 70 degrees.
That's 0-10 and 15-20 in celcius

without sufficient protection 7 is definitely low enough to die of cold

probably not within 100 seconds, but that's just sped up for game design reasons

[cunning finch]

Bruh- 20 is summer weather tho

[sleek timber]

people are different, situations are different

dying from hypothermia in a 20 degree environment definitely seems odd

but below 10 degrees C is very realistic for it

[midnight swan]

I am upset that a lot of this game takes place on land, BUT

Snowfox is pretty fun :)

[eternal garnet]

This map. Also has location spoilers

[cunning finch]

I can't get snowfox yet. I have a whole one magnetite to my name and idk where to get more- ;w;
Though i haven't explored much quite yet so im sure i'll find more eventually

[midnight swan]

I know where to get magnetite

I know where i got mine

[eternal garnet]

many pengling caves have it. Also there are a few behind Phi base, inside the cave in the wall

[midnight swan]

I found mine in ||The ore vein behind Phi base next to phi hoverpad||

[midnight swan]

Yes behind phi base

[sleek timber]

I found like 2 lockers full of magnetite in glacial areas

it's all over the place in ore veins

[eternal garnet]

also inside icebergs. bring laser cutter

[midnight swan]

I found a wall of ice next to a alien pipe once but it wouldnt let me cut it open with laser cutter

[sleek timber]

you have to open that one from inside

doesn't it say that?

[eternal garnet]

it does not

[sleek timber]

is it a transparent wall?

with a tunnel on the other side

[eternal garnet]

the one-way ice door is at the end of the big cable underwater

[sleek timber]

idk which other wall of ice there is

[midnight swan]

Oh di you have to swim under the island to access it?

Or into the island?

[sleek timber]

got a scrrenshot?

[eternal garnet]

"island" - there's land by the radio mast nearby. it is not an island

You access the area by crossing the bridge

But explore south of the bridge first

[sweet marlin]

ngl would be nice to have like a balance thing to see if the seatruck is flat so you wont get ejected out of it

[sleek timber]

agree, though on the contrary I prefer to be ejected so that I don't have to go through the exit animation

[sweet marlin]

well ye but just have like a hold to exit button aswell

cus like when i get attacked and want to get out of the seat then get ejected from the craft itself aint exactly ideal

[midnight swan]

Every landmass is an island

Almost every landmass

Idk what counts as an island tbh

It is confusing

[eternal garnet]

I consider north / Zero, west / Phi a small continent

possibly the only continent

[midnight swan]

Fair

[sweet marlin]

is there no way to access sea truck upgrade modules when its in the truck dock?

no i mean the modules like increased depth thats on the hull of the truck

[eternal garnet]

no, you can't. Neither the batteries

[sweet marlin]

oof

[sleek timber]

actually you can definitely access batteries

it's hard, but there's an angle

not sure about upgrade panel

[sweet marlin]

finally got the prawn dock

[next current]

Imagine if they renamed the Moonpool that! XD

[eternal garnet]

an early name was the quay. This nearly happened

oh prawn dock. Never mind. Quay is the seatruck dock

[graceful ocean]

Hey guys how long did it take you to beat below zero not speedrunning

[dry obsidian]

4 hours

ez

[sweet marlin]

||is there a maximum distance for the teleportion to the teleportation module?|| spoiler question kinda

[dry obsidian]

idk

[sweet marlin]

does the prawn suit fall trough floors of islands or interiors like in subnuatica 1?

[dry obsidian]

yep it sucks

its a loading error

[sweet marlin]

oof

ill make sure to have it docked at all times when im going far away then

[tacit thorn]

put it on foundation

[graceful ocean]

OMG I just learned that seamonkeys are vip definitely ☺️

They are the coolest in the whole game

[tacit thorn]

they are utter annoyance

[graceful ocean]

What you mean

[timid horizon]

Anyone on

Do we have any news on the new game they are making

[sweet marlin]

is there really 1 area for the snowfox

[sweet marlin]

unreal engine 5 and most likely will have co-op

but thats about it

mfw i ||cut open the ice at the portal at the artic and the ice doesnt fall out so i cant swim out and almost end up drowning cus of it|| near endgame spoil

[vocal badger]

Hello chat I am here to ask a question

I did not play this game yet but in the trailer

Why does that robot thing sound exactly like marguerit

Is this a VA thing or an actual story related thing

[sweet marlin]

story

[vocal badger]

Omg thank you for telling me that

Mfw father and marguerit are not already a part of this incredible planet 😟

[midnight swan]

I’m gonna go down to the ||Crystal Cave|| to get ||Al-An’s last body part blueprint||, so i’m leaving my seatruck modules where the ||Shadow Levi|| can’t get them.

[midnight swan]

Degasi logs tell such a great story

That’s normal subnautica though, bot below zero

[sour narwhal]

were do you find magnetite in the game

what biom

[vocal badger]

Ikr

[eternal garnet]

deep lilypads, inside icebergs, in pengling caves

[midnight swan]

Behind phi base

[vocal badger]

Yeah, I’m currently playing normal game for the first time and thought the voices sounded similar

Jevil?

[midnight swan]

Deltarune

[vocal badger]

Deltarune reference ⚠️ ⚠️

Yes

[midnight swan]

Very good bossfight

[vocal badger]

Love that game one of my favorites

And also one of my favorite characters

[midnight swan]

I am so excited for chapters 3-5

[vocal badger]

Same

But it is Toby fox

[midnight swan]

However let’s not get too off topic

[vocal badger]

I am well aware they’re coming out in at earliest 2025

[vocal badger]

Ok

Is this too much of a spoiler, if it is don’t tell me
Why is marguerit in the trailer if he died 2 years ago

Back off, alterra. You’re on my turf.

[sour narwhal]

to fin teh ore?

[eternal garnet]

it's pure metal. Very shiny, usually shines white

[sour narwhal]

k thx

[graceful ocean]

Where the heck does one find a builders tool

[fierce phoenix]

you can usually find them in Altera habitats

[eternal garnet]

120m down in twisty bridges by a small building, next to something else you definitely need

[graceful ocean]

Oh thanks 😊

[graceful ocean]

Okay someone please explain how I survive for 5 hours without dying once have collected both ||al-an and a seatruck and not have the high capacity o2 tank!?||

I'm confused chat

[unkempt scroll]

There is nothing confusing about that. Subnautica has never been a hard game where you can die easily. And BZ is even less harder.

Dont play for so long though in a day though. Do breaks.

[haughty wedge]

stay away from sussy crocodiles and if you see a giant shrimp run at all costs

unless you have a seatruck, then u kill crocodiles

but still run if 🦐

[unkempt scroll]

What crocodiles?

[haughty wedge]

cryptosuchus

[eternal garnet]

the black loud 4-legged

[unkempt scroll]

But they look like a dog!

[eternal garnet]

with a beak

and armor

[unkempt scroll]

They practically harmless go pet it if you see one. Im sure they wont bite 😋

[steel stream]

Where did you get the '2 years ago' anyway? Yes, the time difference between first and second game is about two years, but Degasi crashed maybe 10 years before Aurora...

[vocal badger]

Oh yeah my bad, more like I discovered his death 2 years ago

[graceful ocean]

She was presumed dead there was no hardcore proof she was dead

[fresh yacht]

is there guaranteed to be a habitat builder fragment at the delta station

nvm found it

[chrome root]

Just found out that i disabled achievements permanently by using the ghost command to get my snowfox from out of bounds... and no save file history to revert. It doesn't really affect anything but it's still really frustrating...

Is there really no work around?

[eternal garnet]

on PC there is

[chrome root]

I'm on PC, what can I do? It's actually my partner's save file so I want to fix it if possible

[eternal garnet]

ok. Using any command sets a cheat flag in the save.
Qmodloader clears it. This is a tool for loading mods.
Install it, then start BZ and load your save. Save game.
Then you can remove qmod again if you want - it might be an issue if BZ updates.
files here https://snm.crd.co/#bz
You don't need SMLHelper

[chrome root]

Amazing, I will give it a shot. Thanks heaps

[eternal garnet]

it should fire achievements on load game

[chrome root]

She hasn't played since I used the console, so don't think there will be any achievements to trigger on launch, but she was on an island and is about to hit a trigger so I will see if it works then! Thanks again I couldn't find any solutions online

[eternal garnet]

yeah. you are the 2nd today with this

[chrome root]

Sorry to make you repeat yourself hahaha

[chrome root]

It worked, i just built her a jukebox to test it out. Legendary fix

[broken badge]

What’s that? And is it worth pinning?

[bold monolith]

The fact the console disables achievements or the snowfox falling into the terrain?

Either way I don't think this is worth pinning.

Please disable the ping when you reply to a developer.

[dry obsidian]

Ok

How do I do that

[dry obsidian]

Ok

[bold monolith]

You click on the "on" on the bottom right.

[dry obsidian]

Yay

[bold monolith]

Thank you.

[dry obsidian]

Stuck

[broken badge]

No, this stuff @bold monolith

#below-zero-chat message

Was wondering if those steps are worth keeping track of, and what they were for to begin with

It’s for resetting achievements?

[bold monolith]

It doesn't reset the achievements, it bypasses the check.

I don't think it's something the developer wants.

[broken badge]

Oh ok
That’s all I wanted to know. Thanks

[dry obsidian]

I think you could work as a mod

[bold monolith]

I am a mod.

"The team of playtesters for Subnautica and Below Zero. Playtesters also help to moderate the Subnautica server."

#rules

[jolly basin]

yer
1 way https://github.com/SubnauticaModding/QModManager/blob/master/QModManager/HarmonyPatches/EnableAchievements.cs
otha way https://github.com/RamuneNeptune/SubnauticaPlugins/blob/main/EnableAchievements/Patch.cs

[bold monolith]

I read that code previously yes.

Not yours though.

[jolly basin]

Mines one less line so I had to boast about that to QModManager contributors

[bold monolith]

:þ

[chrome root]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the reasoning was for the change in achievement locks compared to the first game, where it only locked for that session rather than save file?

[bold monolith]

It was an omission in the first game, it's fixed with 2.0.

[ancient stone]

Finished Below Zero for the first time today. First of all, thanks for 2 great times, dear devs. I loved both Subnauticas.

Playing through Below Zero made me realise something: At least a third of the fun I have playing your games is feeling like an explorer. I see a cave that connects to a land side lake? I drop a beacon and name is something like "Jellyfish Passage", and I will not leave it with a name I am not happy with.

And that made me realise another thing. I can understand why you would not include a map in the game. But assuming you make a third instalment of the series at some point, may I suggest that you turn the making of a map into a in-game feature? As in, you do never get one in game, but you can mark biome borders, enter scans into a database, and name the areas themselves, and then when you've done that you can actually have that displayed/overlayed on your seaglide or scanner room. I am sure not everyone would care about this, but it would appeal to people like me, who like to feel like some renaissance explorer.

[unkempt scroll]

They included maps in Below Zero lmao.

[ancient stone]

Well - you get maps as picture files, and you can area scan with the sea glide or scanner room, but both is not an in-UI map that you can manipulate or name.

[unkempt scroll]

Dawn. I wonder if Devs are going to respond to that…

[ancient stone]

There's really no need, I'm happy if they merely see and consider it, even if they decide against it.

[unkempt scroll]

I honestly am not sure whether they will see it tbh -_-

[ancient stone]

Neither am I, I am not even sure if they are fed up with creating survival crafting games for now and decide to make Visual Novels about a Japanese High School where everyone is a microbe for 10 years.

[unkempt scroll]

I… what?

[ancient stone]

I was trying to come up with a VN concept that's not already been done. It's not simple.

[sleek timber]

a map would definitely be welcome, at least as an end-game item

[bold monolith]

They are working on Moonbreaker and "the next game in the Subnautica universe©".

[sleek timber]

also I'm disappointed that BZ doesn't have any sonar upgrades

those are really useful for cave navigations

and I wish that the seaglide hologram map was available in seatruck and/or prawn

[ancient stone]

Counterpoint - I would prefer not to get it as a end-game item, I would prefer if the map is just something you have to put effort into as a player so it becomes useful.

[sleek timber]

oh, like a map you develop yourself

[ancient stone]

Yeah exactly that is what I imagine! So I can feel even more like Magellan.

[sleek timber]

well, how about a "fog of war" type map, where new areas only get added once you visit them?

that requires the effort of exploring the whole map

[ancient stone]

Yeah maybe you even need a "LIDAR becaon" or "sonar beacon" that you have to distribute yourself, and they need to collect data or something

Maybe the original scanner room map and seaglide map are actually not as good as they are now, until you did the work, but then they are better? idk, that might annoy some people too.

To me, both games are quite literally about charting the uncharted. But other people may not see it that way as much as I do?

But I suppose there could be ways to turn it into a mechanic, but have it not be absolutely mandatory? Can't say the idea is even fully formed in my head.

[ancient stone]

Maybe the original scanner room map and seaglide map are actually not as good as they are now, until you did the work, but then they are better?
Here's a slightly more formed idea going off this:
The scanner-seaglide-etc map exists in several resolutions. "Just exploring" already gives you a map, but it is resolved at a level that is so low, you cannot make out finer details like narrow passages below idk 5 meters? 10 meters (would take some experimenting and map-fiddling so it is reasonably mystifying without being utterly useless)? And then you get tools to increase that resolution - cheap one-time beacons that do a high resolution scan of an area, upgrades for the seaglide and the vehicles, and so forth. Surveying tools.

What's more, stuff like the scanner room and the sea glide can still locate minerals within the earth, and scan the surface, there is a logical limit to how far it can scan around corners, or penetrate the earth to find caverns that are maybe 20-30 meters directly below the room, but separated by 20 meters of rock, the scanner doesn't know it is there, until you have explored that cavern yourself, and thus integrated that map data. That would also serve to make the scanner room sensor drones a lot more useful.

I imagine if done right, this could lead to a lot of mystery situations where you KNOW there is a room below you because the scanner finds minerals down there, but you don't know where the entrance is (I mean, that already can kind of happen with scanner rooms sometimes, that you know there is a cavern but you do not see the entrance).

On the other hand idk maybe a lot of people would find that to be annoying? Eh what do I know.

[sleek timber]

that just sounds frustrating tbh

like in minecraft, when you're mining and you hear noises somewhere, but then you spend 10 minutes digging around trying to find where the noise is from

[ancient stone]

I think if it was carefully balanced, so the system gives you hints, just not the full picture, it could work.

[midnight swan]

I would just really appreciate it if bz had stuff that advanced the plot better than just beacons to every place you need to go. I really appreciated ||the hunt for Al-An’s tissue blueprint|| because i found myself in a giant, barren arctic wasteland, running across the ice with only one thought in my head: find warmth. I remember that I used 3 salads on the way there, so i only had one for the entire journey back. It was an exhilarating experience, even though I didn’t have the snowfox. In subnautica games, I find that the lack of a large map forces you to explore places repeatedly until you find what you want. I find that the forced exploration in bz is definitely not as refined as subnautica, but it still gets most of the job done. Exploration is a key part of these games, and the lack of a map adds to that.

[ancient stone]

Exploration is a key part of these games, and the lack of a map adds to that.
100% agree, that's definitely what I am trying to keep in place with my suggestions.

If that gets lost without a map, drop the map.

[midnight swan]

I admit that i would love an in game map, but it would be hard to balance.

[unkempt scroll]

Weren’t you supposed to build a warm suit and a motorcycle?!

[ancient stone]

I just bunny hopped everywhere with my prawn lmao

never built the motorcycle, seemed pointless

but them I am a prawn enjoyer anyway

[sleek timber]

when I did my 5-hour "speedrun" a couple days ago, I just made the seatruck and snowfox

prawn seemed unnecessary, but that would be my alternative to the snowfox

there's no way I'd go on foot though - it's hella far

[midnight swan]

I went with no suit and no snowfox lmao

I didnt have the blueprints i dont think

[trail torrent]

i didnt build snowfox until endgame and that was mostly just for fun

[sleek timber]

well yeah, but if you're not puting the snowfox inside the prawn suit storage, then docking the prawn suit to the seatruck, and then docking the seatruck to the seatruck dock, are you even playing the game?

[midnight swan]

I guess not!

In normal subnautica, there is actually no way without mods to put a vehicle inside another vehicle and then dock that vehicle.

Because there is no cyclops dock.

[ancient stone]

ooo, the snowfox is small enough to be stored? maybe I will still build one for the inevitable postgame visit

Pretty sure I missed a couple PDA messages

Tried as I might, I didn't find the first part of ||Marguerite's Diary||

And maybe I missed some in ||Pengling caves||, found only 1 in those

[sleek timber]

you can pick it up into your inventory - it occupies 4x4 slots

so you can put it into any storage container that has a 4x4 empty space

seatruck, prawn, locker...

fridge

[ancient stone]

...Spy Pengling?

I never tried putting stuff INTO those

[modest fable]

Literally teleport the Snowfox with a quantum locker

[midnight swan]

Wait

Do quantum lockers have “battery” or power usage? Or are they just ender chests?

[pliant jetty]

I had no idea

[pliant jetty]

Literally just a storage upgrade with more steps

But they'd be huge if we had multiplayer 🤔

[pliant jetty]

• nesting doll intensifies *

[pliant jetty]

Don't leave it unattended unless it's on a charger

[pliant jetty]

Ion cube prawn suit+drilled all the surface stuff because it was such an easy build. I also didn't figure out how to get fur until I was knee deep in ||snow stalker|| guts.

And I built the hover bike after seeing the credits roll.

[midnight swan]

I just built it and i’m mostly completed the game

I just need ||Al-An organ blueprint|| and ||Al-An organ materials|| and then i can finish the game

[pliant jetty]

Karhaa Kissing Booth

"alien spotted" me commander!

[pliant jetty]

I totally stumbled into it by running away from a ||bad time||

||Alan|| hadn't told me where it was.

[midnight swan]

I dont think they ever do

[pliant jetty]

My Summer as a Sentient Virus

[midnight swan]

I am extremely disappointed that Kharaa didn’t play that big of a role in bz. Jt really added tension and a sense of an overlying, omniscient threat in subnautica in the form of a rapidly spreading disease.

Also how do i cure the big boi frozen levi

[pliant jetty]

I know I left with ||antidote in my inventory || 😆

[pliant jetty]

There are podcasts/audio diaries with details

So, yeah, check bases?

[midnight swan]

Have i mentioned that i hate the official canonical pronunciation of Kharaa

They pronounce it like “Cuh RAH” but i always pronounced it like “CAR uh”

[ancient stone]

My Little Retrovirus Can't Be That Infectuous

[midnight swan]

||Oh dear, i just found out how ti get the antidote and honestly, now the frozen levi plot seems so stupid and short. It’s just in a cave? Like what? I thought i would have to find the blueprint for an antidote and them craft it from a bunch of late game materials. Tbh the plot of bz is much shorter than i thought.||

[pliant jetty]

I feel like it was a way to justify the assets they'd created for the abandoned original/beta plot

[next current]

Things like the Exchanger Rocket would say otherwise.

[pliant jetty]

How does that say otherwise? Some assets don't make the cut

[ancient stone]

Yeah, that part of the plot seems weirdly underdeveloped: ||There seems to be no reason why everyone left! I mean sure there was some measure of sabotage, but nothing a building tool can't fix in like, a day! 2 people died as a result of what the corp filed as an accident...so what? The whole Alterra plot is hanging in the air, and the resolution is a bit unspectacular. Also begs the question how incompetent the Precursors were, considering that Sam BUILT THE ANTIDOTE IN A WEEK! IN A CAVE! WITH SCRAPS!||

[pliant jetty]

My head cannon is marg scared them away

[pliant jetty]

BTW, the antidote is just ||in all the sea water now ||

That's why the infected sample had to be ||above the surface||

[ancient stone]

Yeah true

[pliant jetty]

Sam was just sampling and platforming it

[ancient stone]

That last bit was slightly facetious

[pliant jetty]

Via plants that clearly draw up sea water?

[clever crow]

i mean, the last part is indeed weird, but 42 was technically in the water so it's easier maybe (but not '||2 plants in a mixer||' easier). but i think they evacuated because ||maida exploded a secret lab at the same time as sam died and started hunting altera employees||

[pliant jetty]

It's plausible that the plants naturally|| concentrate 42 for example. Maybe explaining why no snow stalkers are infected ||

[pliant jetty]

Also marg is spooky, she probably pretended to be some monster

[clever crow]

the meat on her kitchen is red, all creatures on 4546b have yellow blood

[pliant jetty]

Probably a good reason we didn't ||invite her on the precursor ship ||

[next current]

Iirc, the recipe is there just in case if you misplace the Antidote

[ancient stone]

dang, auto moderated because bad word...not even sure which one it was

[pliant jetty]

Nah, it was there to calm me, I carried it constantly after that point.

I was convinced it was going to go down

[ancient stone]

anyhow I feel that the "Why Alterra left" plot could have used some rounding off, my idea would be ||another escalation, for example a burned out corp tank on the way to Marg's primary base with a log going "ok guys you show that saboteur" and another log land side that goes "after the failure of operation clean house we have decided to return to orbit until safety can be guaranteed by a larger security detachment"||

[west mountain]

Did you finish Sam's story then and ||cured the frozen leviathan||?

[haughty wedge]

ik ohio not funny anymore but i had to, sorry 💀

[midnight swan]

No

[worldly holly]

what's next for subnautica

an update, a new game, wonder what will happen

[deep kettle]

They have / are hiring people for a new game, so presumably that 😛

[midnight swan]

Another game which will have water and UE5

[jaunty stream]

does below zero have a decently big map? also does it have cuddlefish?

[broken badge]

Wherever you want, although early on, probably twisty bridges is convenient, or maybe somewhere over near ||delta island|| since it’s very centrally located

[clever crow]

it's decent yeah(

[broken badge]

It began as planned DLC but grew into its own game, so it’s not as big as Subnautica
Also no cuddlefish, but it has its own version of a “companion creature”

[jaunty stream]

and does it have cuddlefish?

[clever crow]

you have cuddlefish substitute that can go on land

[jaunty stream]

what is the cuddlefish substitute?

[broken badge]

It’s called a ||trivalve|| it comes in 2 color varieties

[jaunty stream]

clsoe enough

[clever crow]

if it's spoilery, why we have custom imojis?

lilypads imo

i want to try tree spires next

[broken badge]

People don’t necessarily know what the emoji means until they’ve played

[clever crow]

they don't. also squidsharks swim on one depth and don't go up much

i just sit on top of one rock and they are never an issue

[broken badge]

I answered you, earlier tbh

#below-zero-chat message

[shadow zephyr]

HI all, I been having issues removing windows and wall reinforcements recently from I compartments.

[broken badge]

Looks pretty good. I build near the shark cage, if you know where that is

[jaunty stream]

does below zero have any flat biomes good for base building?

simillar to the shallows from the first game

[safe sun]

Yes, there's plenty of flat space.

[broken badge]

Not that I recall

I get prawn fragments from Koppa mine

[latent mantle]

Lol I ended up getting most of my prawn fragments from the ||outpost zero|| area and like 1 to complete the blueprint from the koppa mine

I kinda made the story progression on that save go bonkers

It ended up giving me 2 alien distress call signals

[midnight swan]

Talk in dms, that stuff can be tricky sometimes

[midnight swan]

I got most of mine from Koppa. It’s actually a pretty easy place to explore, even with a normal oxygen tank.

However, with a larger o2 tank it is extremely easy tk explore and find everything.

The one thing i did have trouble finding fragments for is the laser cutter.

[west mountain]

They are in the shipwrecks and in koppa mine and seamonkey nests and twisty bridges. And you dont even need one.

[midnight swan]

Yeah sea monkey nests is where i found at least one of the frags, and i also found one or two in ||Mercury II stern||

Southwest of delta, there is a big hole and at the bottom is the doors to Koppa mining site.

[broken badge]

Here’s a map of the bases, delta is yellow one with the triangle in the center, Koppa is the place just to the southwest of delta

You get this map when you visit delta by the way

[midnight swan]

I also appreciate this!

[broken badge]

It’s on one of the walls at Delta and you can scan it

[midnight swan]

Weird

I don’t want icky maps in my subnautica game :(

[broken badge]

It’s just a facilities maps, that’s all

[midnight swan]

Also why is it ALL LAND

[broken badge]

Most of it can’t be traversed

[midnight swan]

Yes sadly

[eternal garnet]

the actual map you get is much less detail

[broken badge]

Yeah, I got one off the internet😅

[sour narwhal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM1wdwN9ELc

[sweet marlin]

so is there really only 1 or i guess 2 areas for the snowfox

[eternal garnet]

2 yes

[sweet marlin]

le bruh

also can ||ice worms be killed since i didnt get any kind of hit registration||

[carmine bobcat]

No

||Ice worms|| are unkillable

[eternal garnet]

there's a dead one up north-east for scanning

[ebon timber]

i dont think this achievement was supposed to be unlockable in 2020 was it ?

[next current]

It was not. There was a bug in the game that allowed players to get that achievement.

[ebon timber]

any specific action to trigger it ?

[crude vapor]

Saw that a while back it is amazing

[sleek timber]

ngl this is scarier than the base game's dead zone

[next current]

Iirc it was gotten by entering the Drop Pod. It's been patched now.

[sleek timber]

I came to the conclusion that Lead is the hardest to get in BZ

there's no large deposits, it doesn't exist in ore veins, so you have to go around looking for Galena outcrops, which annoyingly blend in with the surrounding environment

and 50% of the drops are gonna be titanium anyway

yet you need tons of lead for base building and seatruck modules

• enameled glass
• reactor rods
• foundations
• moonpool
• nuclear reactor
• seatruck and 4 seatruck modules

[tacit thorn]

10 metric tons for massive foundations under big fishy cages.

Buuut... in the end you are going to run out of titanium.
Because everything you build needs it.

[sleek timber]

you'd have to build bases on an absolutely enormous scale to run out of titanium, imho

[tacit thorn]

<- mined out all the titanium nodes and loose ore, currently scavenging fragments and scrap metal. Still only at -2k of -8k planned base depth.

[sleek timber]

oh, you're building into the void?

[tacit thorn]

and all I have build in the game is a mid sized base in shallow water, one in deep caves, and three cages.

[sleek timber]

yeah I'd classify that as enormous scale

[tacit thorn]

its a single vertical connector all the way down...

[sleek timber]

survival subnautica wasn't really designed for that kind of playstyle

[tacit thorn]

and a pile of I corridors and reinforcements to keep it from flooding

[tacit thorn]

already "finished" the game, now just fooling around and exploring the last bits

[sleek timber]

same

but like... you're not even supposed to go into the void, let alone build a tube all the way down

[tacit thorn]

if it's not a kill zone or invisible wall, its just a challenge

[sleek timber]

so I'd say that for the purpose of playing normally there's enough titanium, even if you're a fan of building multiple massive bases

[ancient stone]

yeah, Lead is hardest, but it's no big deal as soon as you have a scanner room

Lithium is less abundant, but easy to spot

[tacit thorn]

its easier to gather with prawn too

wish we could disasemble the buildings and structures from 'other' people on the planet, both to clean up, and to get extra resources

there is way too much quartz and copper in the game

[west mountain]

Copper yes quartz no. I run out of quartz before anything else. Silver and gold are way more than necessary.

[sweet marlin]

whats that damn

[sweet marlin]

ye ive gotten so much diamond's ruby kyanite etc but its always a chore to get lead

[tacit thorn]

A lobster. You can put them in cages. red ones you can just kill off.

[midnight swan]

I’m dping the egg thing again

I have hatched 9 different species from eggs, but i still need to get at least the “cuddlefish” fish of this game (i forget name)

Oh!

I have seven more to collect! I am excited to find them all!

[tacit thorn]

Tip: once the egg hatches, your extnded reality interface will show its name when you see one in the wild. If its an unknown one, it will say 'creature egg'

also, some eggs have very similar shape but slightly different color, check them carefully

and ||jello|| eggs do not look like eggs.

[sweet marlin]

just finished the game, liked the story alot

[tacit thorn]

did you find the datapad detailing the fate of your sister?

[sweet marlin]

the fate no but i do know in which direction it went tho so i can kinda guess ||assume she got killed when she was trying to get to the leviathan|| also kinda meh how ||Marguerit doesnt have any involvement with the architect or the main story besides just guiding you to a few places basically||

[tacit thorn]

Go back to ice cave where you ||find the frozen leviathan|| and walk the path again looking to the left. there is datapad with final log just before the main chamber, in the rubble

[sweet marlin]

ight

[tacit thorn]

due to wonderful design, this one did not miss it after walking through there thrice

[sweet marlin]

yea....

the wonderful design of telling story trough picking up items you can easily miss or if you dont play them you dont even get to hear them

[tacit thorn]

Funny how the only place I havent fully explored (ransacked) yet is the deep twisty bridges. that place disturbs me for some reason

[clever crow]

music spoopy

[tacit thorn]

13 eggs, missing gold kabuto-thing, is that all?

[sweet marlin]

there's not that much there besides some truck componenets and a alien artifact

and spike traps

lots of them there

[tacit thorn]

don't think i've seen spike traps. first i encountered was in giant anemone area

[midnight swan]

Going into the depths of Koppa with a Prawn is so fun

[tacit thorn]

Incorrect. Going anywhere with a prawn is fun

[midnight swan]

True

I said this in #subnautica-chat, but it makes me feel like i’m piloting one of the various mechs from the Amulet series (by Kazu Kibuishi)

[obtuse mulch]

Just started below zero, what should I do first

[tacit thorn]

get scanner obv

[midnight swan]

Not get your knife and scanner stolen by sea monkeys

[tacit thorn]

there is a mod to make them passive

[obtuse mulch]

Nintendo switch gaming

[mighty maple]

Is it normal to find broken pda that you can't pick up in below?

[obtuse mulch]

Brute shark kinda scawy

[midnight swan]

Is there any reason at all to craft another ||Antidote||?

[opaque harbor]

Only if you lose the first one

[obtuse mulch]

Welp I just drowned

[opaque harbor]

Don't do that

[obtuse mulch]

But apparently I found the rebreather 20 minutes into the game

And high capacity ot tank

And sea truck

The deep place with Morse code message was nice

Except for the sharks

Was I supposed to go there yet ;-;

[midnight swan]

I’m gonna go find me some ||Glow Whale Eggs|| ti breed ||Glow Whales|| and then have a ton of ||Glow Whales|| around my base!!!!!!!

[obtuse mulch]

Did I do a good 😄

Why is the moon made of foam

I think I just found soemthing late game maybe

How do I put spoiler on picture

Ummm I’m about 25 minutes into the game am I supposed to be here yet?

[mystic trench]

Yes

[dry obsidian]

Prawn suit my beloved

[sleek timber]

Void Chelicacerate

Basically the red chompy bois, but like 50% bigger and grey