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#đwiki-discussion
molten tree
cinder kestrel
I knew exactly what bad stuff it would try (and mostly fail) to do.
(To all the random people just viewing this channel: don't try to do what I did unless you do exactly what I did)
brave heart
Hello ! I have to a Game Doc of subnautica for a school project and i'm kind of stuck with the description of the graphism (like a more precise term than "detailled cartoon"), i don't know if there are any topic on the wiki (didn't found it) but if someone have a link for, it would be really helpfull !
heady gulch
hm, that is a tough one honestly.
I don't know how to describe it really either, looking at individuals like humanoids, it has a sort of cartoonish exaggeration aspect that gives the characters a lot of personality.
but in other areas of the game, it feels like the design is more around realism, example being the looks and feels of the Precursors/alien architecture. Although the entire world is alien.
heady gulch
Hello ! I have to a Game Doc of subnautica for a school project and i'm kind of ...
I would call it Pseudo-realism, not in a way meant to call it a sham. But, some aspects of the game look passable as "realism", while other aspects like human characters, are more of an expressive artistic take instead of realism. Pseudo-realism to an extent. Since so much of the game is foreign with its fauna and flora design, who are we to say that the peeper's appearance in game is exaggerated or "unrealistic"? There's no real world peeper to compare it off of to deem the game's presentation of it as "exaggerated art style",
final needle
molten tree
oh wow what a cheat
great update
it's incredible to meet such a creator
ionic blade
Sounds like a virus link xD
molten tree
Yes it is :P
ionic blade
I don't get why they posted it twice in the same channel tho
Bots be weird nowadays lol
wheat island
molten tree
Good morning Spook Fish, glad you could join us again in the land of the living xD
gaunt shuttle
guys i got a cuddlefish egg i hatched it and put it in water but i moved my base and cant find him what happend to him does anyone know
cursive vigil
guys i got a cuddlefish egg i hatched it and put it in water but i moved my base...
hes inside your habitat builder
thats just a joke
you should pick him up before deconstructing your base
bleak patrol
guys i got a cuddlefish egg i hatched it and put it in water but i moved my base...
you just have to go to where your old base is and find it, it should be alive still. sometimes they disappear tho so youll have to wait
haughty lily
<@&85343211593166848>
valid eagle
hey i got a lore question that i need answers for. so are the mushroom caps on the tree mushrooms a separate species growing on the coral trunk similar to how tree leeches grow on side or are they a part of the coral? parts of the wiki suggest they're a part of the coral while the databank entry suggests that they're two species.
rose oar
hey i got a lore question that i need answers for. so are the mushroom caps on t...
I would say go with what the databank entry says in the actual game
gaunt shuttle
the prawn suit we play with in the game is mk 3 what would the mk 1 prawn suit look like
cursive vigil
YES
ivory steppe
The channel description still mentions the Below Zero wiki. I think that should be removed.
fluid lagoon
we should leave it to remember the good times
before the wiki was converted to an unusable nightmarescape of infinite disambiguation pages
ivory steppe
fluid lagoon
i love looking up lantern fruit only to be taken to a disambiguation page, and then after having specified the game and wanting to go to the page on the lantern tree i get taken to another disambiguation page, and then after that i click on the link to go to the lead page only to be taken to yet another disambiguation page
it's so much more convenient than two wikis
ivory steppe
It's the perfect experience! XD
fluid lagoon
i blame @edgy lagoon solely because he was the only wiki keeper that wasn't there for the decision-making process which makes it funny to do so
ivory steppe
Oh I'm sure they were busy...
fluid lagoon
i can't think of a way to continue the joke give me like 5 days and several boxes of la croix i'll figure something out
ivory steppe
Okay... I'll be waiting. đ
edgy lagoon
smh
cinder kestrel
I think the problem is that none of us have put in the effort to fix all of the links.
fluid lagoon
can't you get SLSBot to do something about it
cursive vigil
i need a full video of the Jiaolong build
fluid lagoon
like make it so that every SN page just links to another SN page and vice versa for BZ
cinder kestrel
I haven't put in the effort to do that, either.
fluid lagoon
why must you hurt me like this
cinder kestrel
I can't think of a good way for my bot to look at link and decide whether or not it's a disambiguation page that needs a Subnautica/Below Zero parenthetical note at the end.
*
heady gulch
How close is the neptune rocket overhaul to being done?
it was finished like more than a week ago.
heady gulch
Yeah but Iâm not gonna go get those
fossil temple
Does anyone know how to fix an issue since Subnautica has no humans that help? My saved game went to a local saves, and I have to "migrate" my game in order to play. Everytime I click to migrate, it says error. Does anyone know how to fix this?
shrewd plinth
hey
stark copper
I found this
Not part of the official soundtrack
And I don't know the name of it
raven rivet
what
stark copper
i found it in the game files
rigid jacinth
nice
cursive vigil
*what*
I have in the past.
I did that with around 1500 pieces of silver.
Then my dual core i5 packed up and the game crashed
heady gulch
When the player launches the Neptune Rocket with a valid Time Capsule set it will be deployed. The data on its contents is sent to the voting site, where the users can upvote and downvote Time Capsules. Capsules with enough upvotes, after being screened, will be seeded into the game world for other players to find. Their locations have nothing to do with where the rocket that deployed them took off from
Going through the discussions, someone noted that the Time capsule voting page has not had anything new in 2 years.
But seeing that someone managed to find a time capsule from someone doing the Nintendo switch version of the game, I'm going to change the info to state all submissions are privately curated until I can figure out otherwise.
heady gulch
never mind, logged in with account to check now. it doesn't show up if you aren't logged in.
cinder kestrel
[[Special:Diff/418240]] seems too speculative. I see the similarities, but they don't seem similar enough.
willow vectorBOT
heady gulch
sure, that similarity will work if The elder scrolls wiki says Masser and Secunda, the two moons of Nirn, are references to the two suns on Tatooine in starwars.
molten tree
yeah I reverted it, there's more examples of two-moon planets than just Elder Scrolls
heady gulch
that reminds me of years long ago when I tried to say that the crashfish home was a reference to the eggs from Alien because of how they opened and deployed
fierce cave
Why doesn't the Subnautica Bioreactor wiki page have a list of energy values like the BZ one does?
cinder kestrel
Because we like to cling to the false hope that everyone will notice the [Expand] under Energy Values.
ivory steppe
valid eagle
so for a physics project i found the radius, acceleration due to gravity, and mass of the subnautica planet 4546B. i found the radius to be 915 kilometers, or 14% the radius of the earth, the acceleration due to gravity to be 12.8 meters per second per second, or 30% greater than the earth's gravity, and the mass to be 1.778*10^23 kilograms, or 3% the earth's mass. if this seems like reasonable values feel free to employ them. if not just enjoy the numbers i got
if anyone would like to hear my process for getting these numbers just to authenticate them let me know.
turbid ermine
So basically g = 12.8 m/s² but you have a smaller radius and a smaller mass. That doesn't sound right.
pastel raptor
Yeah Iâm not an expert but that doesnât sound quite right.
valid eagle
yeah there are some issues since it's a game but i concluded with a friend that the planet might just be really dense which makes sense since it's mostly water and water is really dense. also the radius might not be super accurate since i used the distance the aurora disappears at and plugged that into the horizon equation, d=sqrt[2rh+h^2]. the aurora was only getting culled since nothing actually will dip below the horizon but it's the best we've really got. i could aslo try it with the below zero mountains and see if i get similar results.
cinder kestrel
which makes sense since it's mostly water and water is really dense
Water has less than half the density of most types of rock.
valid eagle
oh
guess my friend was wrong
i dunno the gravity is kinda strange but i don't know if it's impossible persay.
i dunno if you wiki lads think that sounds like reasonable measurements for the planet feel free to use them. if not i wont be upset.
molten tree
It's not my place to say, but if we're just going by the distance of the Aurora getting culled, it's probably not good enough to really say definitively
valid eagle
that's fair but it's the best we've got to solve for the radius, and therefore the mass, using that method unless the below zero mountains get culled even further.
there might be other ways like using the neptune rocket cutscene but i don't know how to use those methods. the acceleration due to gravity is pretty close for sure.
turbid ermine
Objects in a scene disappear further than the voxeland itself. (The Aurora is a scene.)
Gravity is 9.81 above water and 1 underwater.
But you have drag values as well. Above water it's 0.1, underwater it's 1. You can imagine the drag as a parachute attached to the objects, the bigger it is, the slowest the object falls. Depending on the objects those values differ, but usually g above water stays the same.
dawn phoenix
ima just pretend i know what this means
agile spindle
but first, lets talk about parallel dimensions
coarse flower
Yes
dense lagoon
ok
cursive vigil
i found it in the game files
you found this in the game files!?
stark copper
YES
stark copper
you found this in the game files!?
yes i did
cursive vigil
wow
rigid jacinth
Hmm
dense lagoon
i found it in the game files
ok this slaps
stark copper
It's a shame it was removed
cursive vigil
0
cursive vigil
the transfuser does not work properly, as well as the terraformer
rigid jacinth
no way
primal fog
the transfuser does not work properly, as well as the terraformer
those are removed items
rigid jacinth
That's why I said no way
rigid jacinth
the transfuser does not work properly, as well as the terraformer
Buddy you only get those from commands
rigid jacinth
Because it's unfinished
cinder kestrel
cursive vigil
hello
heady gulch
In other news: https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Golby_Face!/Do_you_g...
oh no
iron crest
I wanted to edit the BZ tether tool page, but I had to create an account and now it looks like I have to wait 4 days (I won't be here in 4 days) :/
I wanted to add info that, despite the item's description, it seems to only teleport you to the first teleportation module you built (regardless of whichever you're closer to) and to add a tip about crafting an ion battery, recharging it, and recyclotroning it to recharge an ion cube
dense lagoon
russia
cursive vigil
Hi, does anyone know of an efficient way to get the âSpecimen With Infection Systems Inhibitedâ? Iâve gotten all other databank entries and I just canât seem to get this one. I tried a couple strategies like using a propulsion canon to move enzyme host peepers to a infected fauna but to no avail.
merry oasis
Hi, does anyone know of an efficient way to get the âSpecimen With Infection Sys...
Just wait follow a enzyme host peeper around until you see it go to an infected fauna and scan it. If you donât want to wait, just grab the peeper. After you grab the peeper, find an infected creature (preferably something like a boomerang) and drop both the enzyme host peeper and the infected creature and you can scan it then. You know itâs infected if itâs got green spots on it.
weak igloo
Does anyone know where to find the alien containment pieces
cinder kestrel
The wiki does.
weak igloo
k
cursive vigil
Just wait follow a enzyme host peeper around until you see it go to an infected ...
I finally did it, thx
Does anyone know how to get all 40 possible time capsules, or at least an efficient method? Iâve been searching for a while now and I canât seem to find anyone whoose actually done it.
chrome oxide
why isnt there a BZ article on Khara
cinder kestrel
Is that how it's spelled?
(Rereads your message)
Nevermind, there's a different answer.
chrome oxide
o
tame smelt
Hello wiki people. Can any of you confirm on what attacked the torgals and Marge?
Which leviathan I mean. I see that it says the reaper but it doesnât seem the size of a kraken or itâs mandibles I donât think can really be classified as tentacles
Along with my question. The wiki says that the sea dragon has tentacles and Paul Torgal specifically points out the tentacles in one of the databanks.
cinder kestrel
The Sea Dragon Leviathan has its tentacles in the back while its hands are in the front. I can understand Paul mistaking mandibles for tentacles; I can't understand him mistaking hands for tentacles. Due to its location, it's also easier for a Reaper Leviathan to get to the seabase than a Sea Dragon Leviathan. The final seabase audio also makes it sound like a Reaper Leviathan.
And some other reason(s) I can't remember.
heady gulch
Which leviathan I mean. I see that it says the reaper but it doesnât seem the si...
The writer forgot what leviathan he was supposed to be writing about. It was a reaper that attacked the base
But as a past wiki keeper had informed me, the writer completely forgot he was supposed to be writing about a reaper. And hence, almost nothing of that âkrakenâ with its âtentaclesâ makes sense,
tame smelt
Thank you. Last question, was the reaper the attacked the base the one Marge dragged down there?
sudden dove
No.
tame smelt
Ty
boreal basalt
Hi guys. The Below Zero wiki says that you need to unlock the Pathfinder Tool to unlock the Compass, however that is not the case. All you have to do is enter the Drop Pod for the first time.
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Compass_(Below_Zero)
random geode
Can't post/edit/message/etc. this anywhere on the wiki either due to permissions or nonspecific errors being thrown, and can't be bothered to structure this nicely anymore: BZ alien containment article mentions a pop limit of 10/containment, I ended up with 60 fish in 3 large room containments, sapienti sat kthxbai.
heady gulch
Can't post/edit/message/etc. this anywhere on the wiki either due to permissions...
done.
also another thing to note, the acquired from file is broken, File should read as [[File:Habitat Builder.png|30px|link=Habitat Builder (Below Zero)]]
Instead of [[File:Habitat Builder (BZ).png|30px|link=Habitat Builder (Below Zero)]]
How many pages are affected by this issue?
round pulsar
There's a discrepancy in reaper numbers on the wiki
Reaper page says there's 1p reapers in crash zone and crash zone apge says 11
Bruh I can't @ wiki keepers role
@edgy lagoon can you find out and fix the wiki pages that have reaper counts in then, there's a discrepancy in the numbers
pure hazel
i think the gamereset console command description is wrong, it resets the entire game, but not inventory or position
and not to last save, the entrie thing
radiant copper
<@&85343211593166848> ^
dim sky
ooo
blissful sand
i could try to fix it.
i'm on subnautica right now, i think i could probably set up like 50 scanners in the dunes.
crash zone -
pure iron
Hey why is "A new strain of Kharaa evolves the ability to control and alter the structure of living creatures, causing the events of Natural Selection and Natural Selection 2." put in non-canon events?
wasn't NS2 confirmed to take place in the same universe?
rigid jacinth
We don't know if that's exactly what happened
pure iron
Ok
Also there are a few quotes from Al-An in The Architects page that do not appear in the Below Zero Dialogue page...
is it because the quotes were removed from the full release?
valid eagle
So is this the channel we can discuss lore since Iâve come up with an issue I canât quite solve. So the sea treaders during the events of the game are in their migratory season. Where do they come from and where are they heading? Iâve kinda deduced that the place they might be from is the sparse reef since the reason it might be sparse is that the sea treaders eat most of the plant life and then leave to go mate or whatever. In that time the sparse reef regrows becoming more lush. Where are they going? The dunes doesnât seem too implausible but then you need to consider the reapers and how the reapers are bigger than sea treaders and theyâd be effectively defenseless against them so where are they off to?
cinder kestrel
So is this the channel we can discuss lore
Read the channel description.
rose cairn
Ded
cloud loom
brazen agate
analog dune
can u agree that the cutest creature in sn besides the cuddlefish is the hover fish
dense lagoon
yes
rigid jacinth
Can we agree this is the wrong channel to say that?
dense lagoon
yes
thick scaffold
45 double redirects lol https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:DoubleRedirects?limit=50&offset=0
median plinth
Hi. Am i the only one who thinks that seatruck fabricator module should have more storage
rigid jacinth
This is the wrong channel
median plinth
Which is the right one?
rigid jacinth
Not this one
dense lagoon
probabaly #below-zero-chat
median plinth
Not this one
Bruh
rigid jacinth
Asking questions that don't pertain to the wiki in any way in the #đwiki-discussion channel?
Bruh
chrome flame
How do I reduce lag?
molten tree
Wrong channel
chrome flame
Sorry
cursive vigil
So i tried looking for info on how to get jellyshrooms on the wiki cuz it wonât work for me and someone said theyâre harvestable but i cant find out how to actually get them
serene mural
Wrong channel. Use #subnautica-chat to help. if you ask on there I can give an answer
cinder kestrel
[[Jellyshroom]] does have the answer, or you can switch channels.
willow vectorBOT
rigid jacinth
I really don't think I even need to say "Wrong channel"
cinder kestrel
Either you're replying to Noobmasterpro, in which case I might say, "Yes, because JavaDragonGaming already said it," or you're replying to the deleted message from what I'm guessing is now a banned account, in which case I might say, " #rules #5 makes it 'wrong server'" or "'Wrong URL' would be better because that's not how "community" is spelled."
rigid jacinth
Ze deleted message of course
fallow quarry
Have both the Subnautica and Subnautica: Below Zero wikis merged into one?
I can't seem to find Below Zero wiki pages...
meager coral
I think its on the same website
fallow quarry
Nevermind I figured things out.
molten tree
Have both the _Subnautica_ and _Subnautica: Below Zero_ wikis merged into one?
Yes they have
molten tree
I've just updated the Subnautica Wiki's base theme. The Discussions area now has a background image! The header area has also been a little streamlined. I cleaned up some of the wiki's old code, which means Fandom's light theme is now functional, but there will be some color issues. If you happen to be on light theme, there will be a notice informing you that it's a work in progress and how to switch back to the dark theme.
minor lichen
Is the wiki an official one or is it fan made?
heady gulch
fan made; however, we are recognized by the developers for our efforts in making an accurate wiki to reflect their game
valid eagle
Kinda like the merch situation for the most part. Fan made by the most part but the devs officially endorse it.
west zinc
On these disambiguation pages. Seems unintentional that almost every wikilink leads to one and that it's just a byproduct of splitting the wiki down the middle for Below Zero. Could throw my bot at this and bypass most of them when you're already reading a disambiguated article. E.g.,
Before:
Aerogel (Subnautica) -> click "Ruby" link -> Ruby [disambiguation page] -> Ruby (Subnautica)
After:
Aerogel (Subnautica) -> click "Ruby" link -> Ruby (Subnautica)
Would obviously sit and manually review/approve every edit. Don't mind spending the time doing it. But will I get an admin banhammer for my efforts?
late island
Admin banhammer?
The disambiguation pages absolutely are annoying though, and their whole nature is a result of the wiki suddenly being combined despite not remotely being designed around that.
heady gulch
On these disambiguation pages. Seems unintentional that almost every wikilink le...
A ban for something like that would be a bit over dramatic. The worst outcome is just one of us going in and undoing all the edits if we decide itâs unnecessary.
late island
The disambiguation pages absolutely are annoying though, and their whole nature ...
Iâm admittedly not sure where Iâd even begin with trying to fix all of these issues in that area or if there even is a more user/information-friendly way to go about these differences than having two separate wikis, and that whatever happens at this point will just have to be clunkier due to the combined wiki
heady gulch
A lot of things are still needing to be ironed out from the merge last I checked.
iirc a couple templates were having problems a while ago with links and icons..
late island
Yeah I donât think anythingâs really gotten better since the merge first happened like, half a year ago or something
itâs just really overwhelming and harder to work with now
heady gulch
On these disambiguation pages. Seems unintentional that almost every wikilink le...
However,
Even if most of us gave a green light on a decision like this. Youâre talking about a massive scale overhaul of pages you would have to undertake on your own.
And definitely not a kind of job that would want to be left half finished.
late island
I mean the wiki itself is basically all a half-finished job especially since the merge so that being half-done couldnât make things worse at least
west zinc
I understand the scale. I'm at a couple hundred thousand edits to date across all the wikis I've touched. Am an admin for flight.fandom too, and have seen similar challenges there given it's several games as well.
heady gulch
I mean the wiki itself is basically all a half-finished job especially since the...
It could become more disjointed. All it takes is a few people trying to overhaul pages in different ways without seeing through it 100% and then you got a bunch of oddball pages that are each trying to go in their own direction; last thing anyone wants is it to look like a disjointed art project.
Cleaning up piles of accumulated unfinished work is harder to deal with than the current state.
heady gulch
I understand the scale. I'm at a couple hundred thousand edits to date across al...
In that regard I recommend you propose the idea to Slycooper or Tueman and get their opinion on it.
west zinc
In that regard I recommend you propose the idea to Slycooper or Tueman and get t...
Fair enough. @molten tree @agile spindle Do you have any objections to inline wikilinks from game-specific pages to game-specific pages bypassing disambiguation pages? An example would be viewing the Aerogel (Subnautica) article and the link for Ruby being edited from [[Ruby]] to [[Ruby (Subnautica)|Ruby]]? Further amplifying discussion is above for context. Given the size of this wiki, believe I can accomplish this in a week or so, with the bot flag set and manual review of all edits before they go live. Disruption to passerbys is anticipated to be between very low to none.
cinder kestrel
~~In your example, why not do [[Ruby (Subnautica)|]]?~~How did I forget how the pipe trick actually works?
heady gulch
I'm looking at the page from the example rn, there's two links to the ruby disambiguation page.
One is in the recipe by clicking on the recipe icon.
the other is in the text: "Gel Sacks and Rubies"
but yeah, what SLScool said.
I'm honestly not opposed to the idea though. Looking at it and how the links are set up.... I'm pretty sure this wuold be a cleanup we'd be doing somewhere down the line anyways.
What I'm wondering is how many links go to disambiguation pages? Aside from just items?
heady gulch
"The Shuttlebugâs body plan is tri-radially symmetrical, a feature unique to the Shuttlebug on 4546B, and not seen on Earth since the Trilobozoans became extinct in the late Ediacaran period."
Subnautica wiki trivia entry on the shuttlebug page.
molten tree
iirc a couple templates were having problems a while ago with links and icons..
Those templates were something I was hoping to get around to remaking in a much better format at the end of last year, but I was pulled for more pressing matters on my team. The unified Subnautica wiki is still functional for the most part--a little messy, yes, but functional, so the templates weren't an emergency that needed to be resolved immediately. Now that those other matters are completed, I'm back to working on the Subnautica wiki. Hence, #đwiki-discussion message as well as the new logo and favicon update I did a couple of days after that message.
molten tree
Fair enough. <@!131039651094855680> <@!72012486689161216> Do you have any object...
That was something I should have done anyway. You're free to do that, but before you do, what's your bot's username?
late island
None of the fauna on 4546 are fish, crustaceans, insects or any other grouping of earth species. It's just "common names"
nobody's suggesting we have to come up with new casual names for things on alien planets, in the same way its understood that starfish and electric eels aren't fish or eels respectively, but are called such as casual names
we also haven't gotten a good look at internal organs or the composition of these animals which might be very different from Earth's
but even if the life on this planet both evolved convergent bodyplans and chemistry as fish, that wouldn't make them fish in the end
even if it's easier to call them fish based on look
Oh you're talking about the Shuttlebug in relation to 4546B's other fauna my mistake
yeah it's a bit unique in that regard, though I have my own thoughts on where it could slot into certain family trees
heady gulch
I think writing up details about "very primitive eye" and "Doesn't appear to have any sort of brain capacity to any extent besides basic survival" might be too much of a stretch even for the trivia section.
I wouldn't use the ai as enough of a reason to define the behavior on a lot of the fauna. For instance. There are no scripted interactions between fauna and flora to my knowledge. The fauna you see in-game seem pretty indifferent to the existence of flora. There's even unused animations for peepers being scared by creepvines that was never implemented in.
certainly, but I don't think it's strong enough to put in as trivia on the wiki in most cases.
ah, alright I understand what you mean.
We try to keep anything speculation related into the trivia segments on pages. Such as real-word similarities and connections.
heady gulch
ah, alright I understand what you mean.
We try to keep anything speculation re...
Even then, there's still a significant level of scrutiny for what we consider real-world similarity/connection.
Example: someone saying the two moons in subnautica is a reference to skyrim's two moons does not count as valid trivia
west zinc
That was something I should have done anyway. You're free to do that, but before...
Thadius856-bot
fluid lagoon
because here at the wiki we love feet
fluid lagoon
im back to make the occasional remark and constantly hound dino with every rule break the mods miss
also yes
heady gulch
ah i see
willow vectorBOT
@cinder kestrel, you have been successfully verified as wiki user "SLScool".
cinder kestrel
@fluid lagoon You can do the same thing to get your Wiki Keeper role back.
Or you can ask a moderator and wait (or a moderator can give you the role without asking).
fluid lagoon
i do not care for it
but also what the heck is that
is anyone with a wiki account able to be a wiki keeper now
cinder kestrel
You have to have rights on the wiki like Discussions Moderator or Rollback (or higher).
Anyone can try the command, but only people with rights on the wiki (people who the wiki admins have decided are trustworthy and probably worthy of the Wiki Keepers role) can be successfully verified and given the Wiki Keepers role.
cinder kestrel
What do you think of https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Template:GameDisambig? If you like it, I'll add <includeonly> to kill the red links on the page itself, make documentation, and have SLSbot implement it on the 188/189 (not counting the Fins page) game disambiguation pages we currently have.
cinder kestrel
Given the size of this wiki, believe I can accomplish this in a week or so, with the bot flag set and manual review of all edits before they go live
I just did it for 183 articles and it took me about two hours (if you don't include some breaks I took).
Or six hours if you include me relearning some tricks, finding out new things and investigating them further than I needed to because it was fun, and figuring out how I would get it done.
valid eagle
could also be amphibious breathing through it's skin. imo i think all of the fauna have some sort of amphibious breathing technique since they don't really suffocate on land and some could just have gills to bring in more oxygen more effectively.
i'm pretty sure cave crawlers can breathe through their skin so some are probably more robust in their ability to breathe with it whereas some probably rely on their gills more while still retaining the trait of breathing through the skin since it still comes in handy from time to time
west zinc
Or six hours if you include me relearning some tricks, finding out new things an...
I see you were a busy beaver. Was this effort largely a set of regexes?
Oh woof, bot flag not applied. Halting for now to prevent rc spam and Wiki-bot from flooding #đwiki-changes
cinder kestrel
Yeah. In AWB, I generated a list of all articles, used the filter to get the ones with (Subnautica), saved it, and then did a big find-and-replace in a text editor to make it fit into a saved preferences file.
I had two replace functions per item: one to replace [[Lorem]] with [[Lorem (Subnautica)|Lorem]] and one to replace with [[Lorem|Ipsum]] with [[Lorem (Subnautica)|Ipsum]].
molten tree
@west zinc Just added the bot flag to your bot account đ
west zinc
<@!237786510915665921> Just added the bot flag to your bot account đ
Baller. Thanks!
Initially didn't realize it had to be set per-wiki across Fandom/GP, though I suppose it makes sense.
molten tree
Bots with the bot-global user right do not need to be set per-wiki, but that user right is exclusive to staff-run bots for very obvious reasons đ
west zinc
Suppose it's obvious, though generally malfeasance with a bot account would probably relate to its loss across the entire platform anyway so đ¤ˇââď¸
molten tree
Indeed, but it's easier to revert that malfeasance if it's on a single wiki as opposed to the entire platform xD
Also FYI the bot flag on your bot is only for three months on Subnautica, but I'm sure that's way more than enough time
west zinc
Sounds fine to me.
molten tree
Thank you again for volunteering to help, it's really appreciated
west zinc
No worries. Glad to help. Gives me a nice change of pace from the admin side on my primary wiki and the non-Fandom one I'm building from absolute scratch MediaWiki for another game.
Nice to not be neck deep in setting up every single template and module needed, including all their documentation đ
cinder kestrel
I dropped the Regex system above in favor of something different: find \[\[(Disambig1|Disambig2|...|Disambign)(?=[#|\]])(\#[^|\]]*)?\|?(.*?)\]\] and replace it with [[$1 (Subnautica or Below Zero)$2|{{subst:#if:$3|$3|$1}}]]. Disambig1|Disambig2|...|Disambign is a list of 189 SN/BZ disambiguation articles separated by vertical bars. An example is [[Special:Diff/420231]] (ignore the space added after each link, I accidentally had a space at the end of the Replace With field).
willow vectorBOT
west zinc
Figured you'd have the more automated approach fairly well covered so taking the more manual approach of backtracking all of the disambig pages. Won't yield as much fruit, but will get some of the weirder edge cases.
late island
Not sure who this UnreadBrick person is but a lot of their edits/pages seem
unnecessary
west zinc
I noticed a fair amount of them getting undone
valid eagle
hey wiki lads i noticed this was for the music of the fabricator caverns page. is this from during below zero's development and needs updating or are these ambient tracks that play in the biome that aren't on the offical ost release? if the former i believe it should be "the shadow leviathan" and "fabricator caverns" for that biome but you might want to authenticate that. just wanted to let y'all know.
clicking on the link brings you to the OST page but no songs are titled creep and disturbed so it should just be a matter of renaming those two
ashen summit
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fervent grove
Izvinite, no etot server tol'ko na angliyskom yazyke || Apologies, this server is in English only.
If you're having tech issues with your save files, ask around in #subnautica-chat or #below-zero-chat for assistance or send a bug report through #đbug-smash
heady gulch
anihilate them
late island
already done
weird that it only shows one undo in recent activity though
Also tbh I kind of feel like the fauna pages for SN and BZ should be separate. I think it's weird having BZs just below the big list of SNs like that, possibly the same with other large pages like the flora page. (Concept art can maybe stay merged due to its unique nature but that one's also kinda weird feeling)
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Biomes especially considering that the Biome pages are already separate so it's weird that they're both handled differently
valid eagle
Personally I find it nice that theyâre together. Get a sense of how much fauna there is.
late island
we could have another page specifically for that if you really want
the main thing here is if it's harder to use
scenic kelp
!wiki Al-an
autumn igloo
they got rid of the wiki command
cinder kestrel
!wiki Al-an
willow vectorBOT
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Al-An's_Vessel
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page Al-an for a direct link or !wiki search Al-an for a list of all hits.
cinder kestrel
But why did you want that?
safe folio
Because y not
heady gulch
also..
should we contest this?
I mean.. I wanna say that belongs in trivia, or doesnt belong on the page at all
But at the same time.. I can see the correlation
molten tree
I edited it to fit it better in the paragraph, but it's up to you guys if you want to keep that kind of speculation
cinder kestrel
Does "taciturn" apply to physical disabilities with a physical cause? Because if not, that's one reason to remove it.
rigid jacinth
I mean I wouldn't say it belongs in personality
cinder kestrel
Along with other potential reasons to remove it.
heady gulch
I think it's passable as trivia
And even that, is a bit of a stretch. But, I do think it's not the most unreasonable thing to say
rigid jacinth
Well does anyone think it really needs to be there?
heady gulch
I don't think it's worth mentioning as part of the main article (personality section).
But, I think its plausible enough to put into the trivia section.
cinder kestrel
I feel like there's some societal rule somewhere that says not to theorize about people's disabilities and that this rule could apply here.
I don't like the mention of taciturn and I think it should be removed, but I'm still trying to think of an actual reason.
heady gulch
yeah in that regard I agree then.
Could we replace it with a notion that the Ryley possibly suffered from a severe concussion? Which can affect memory, judgement, reflexes, speech, muscle coordination.
molten tree
I don't like the mention of taciturn and I think it should be removed, but I'm s...
You don't need a reason to remove speculation, that is itself reason enough since most wikis tend to avoid it
"Removing unverified speculation", something like that
heady gulch
well. I Think I found a better one to replace it
Also, im pretty sure Taciturn is not a disability. it's just used to refer to very quiet natured people. tbh first time I've heard of the word. "(of a person) reserved or uncommunicative in speech; saying little."
They're not directly stating Ryley suffers from aphasia
west zinc
I think you've already covered this use case in editing guideline #11 personally: Always include a source when creating a trivia bullet point unless the trivia is about something that used to be in the game (such as previous names, model changes, etc). Anything outside of the game must be cited. Otherwise it will be removed.
At least in spirit, if not particularly in black and white.
heady gulch
hm yeah. If we put it in trivia, we'd probably have to cite a plausible medical reason to how that bonk to the head correlates to his quiet nature.
late island
I imagine he mostly doesn't speak because there isn't really anyone to speak to. The only possible instance could be the Sunbeam messages and we have no idea what fully was going on with those
heady gulch
true. I don't think the man is mute or anything, the dude does have a job with non essential systems maintenance; so I think its reasonable to say he didn't get there by being a man of few words the entire ways.
I can probably find a reasonable enough answer to make a correlation between the thwack to the head and his lack of speech (And I already have found something I think is plausible enough). However, tying to what SLScool said, I don't think it's a good idea to accidentally trivialize a medical condition
balmy mural
Wow, accidentally stumbled across this lol
Why would you even want to speculate about his head trauma?
I didnât specialize in trauma but iirc strokes would be more likely to cause speech difficulty unless youâre just unconscious, and Iâm not sure why youâd speculate to begin with
I wouldnât broach the subject tbh
As mentioned, there isnât anyone to speak to
And this isnât the sort of game where you hear your own thoughts reallyđ
For those who donât know me, Iâm trained as a physician, no longer practicing tho, and I went into pediatric/neonatal medicine not neurology
Still I wouldnât make assumptions.
stable cave
I mean not to throw my hat in the ring but this seems like a lot of speculation/grasping at straws just to find an in game reason why the main character doesnât speak when all it is is just heâs a silent protagonist
heady gulch
Wow, accidentally stumbled across this lol
Why would you even want to speculate ...
TLDR IS:
Someone edited the article on the wiki to say the silent nature of the protagonist is possibly related to getting hit in the head from that metal plate, in the main page. If we move it to trivia, we'd need to give it a citation to explain it. So a few of us are really divided on if we should keep this information up, where we should put it in the page, and how to handle it realy.
balmy mural
I see
I certainly donât know how wiki rules are applied.
I can only say that imo, you donât need to explain why the protag is silent
I know generally speaking anyone can make edits to most wikis, but what if what they added is just unnecessary? Or even incorrect? Why do you have to move that info âanywhereâ or explain why itâs moved, such as in this instance? (If itâs too involved to explain that, donât worry, Iâm fine just taking yâallâs word for itđ)
I mean this really isnât something that can be attributed to a medical issue. Doing so is reaching, jumping to some rather far-fetched conclusions (this is a game after all, you want to get technical about it, the player probably wouldâve died from something like a depressed skull fracture, intracranial hemorrhage, or even smoke inhalation while unconsciousđ). In other words itâs just gameplay I guess what Iâm saying is I donât see why must it be moved anywhere when such an edit doesnât add anything meaningful to the wiki entry, in fact I think in this case trying to insinuate its related to head trauma is misleading more than anything because itâs based on some faulty assumption.
Anyway, forgive me if Iâm just not understanding how it works, or for butting in on something thatâs really none of my businessđ
heady gulch
Alright, I think you put it pretty well. I'll probably remove the edit then. Even in it's current state, it's still insinuating that it's medical related; which would be likely a faulty assumption just as you stated. Thank you for the input though
late island
I certainly donât know how wiki rules are applied.
I can only say that imo, you...
Edits that are incorrect or unnecessary will usually get overwritten when caught yes, and we donât want baseless speculation on the wiki either
so yeah seems good to have reverted it
fervent grove
The silent nature of the protagonist is because THERES NO ONE TO TALK TO!? Did they ever think of that before implying brain damage? XD
stable cave
The silent nature of the protagonist is because THERES NO ONE TO TALK TO!? Did t...
To be fair tons of people talk to themselves when theyre alone, I can barely last an hour not doing it when Iâm camping
cinder kestrel
Robin talks to herself a few times even without someone in her head.
clear jackal
Sup bois
late island
Surprised the old title screens aren't anywhere on the cut content page
will have to get videos/pics of those eventually
vernal leaf
How exactly do u save sunbeam?
cursive vigil
I donât Think there is a way to save the sunbeam
autumn igloo
yes there is, if you cure yourself before they land and deactivate the gun then they wont attempt to land and just say there is a debris field so they cant land
cursive vigil
Oh yeah I dead forgot about that
vernal leaf
Ty
vernal leaf
Woot...i saved sunbeam.
cinder kestrel
Did you discover anything that isn't included in the wiki article?
rancid yarrow
does anyone know if this piece of information is outdated?
from the Inactive Lava Zone page on the wiki
wintry sparrow
does anyone know if this piece of information is outdated?
idk if its reffering to the active lava zone
fierce cave
Is this accurate? It wouldn't make any sense for using commands to not disable achievements for the entire save from that point onward, even after being reloaded
cinder kestrel
If I were designing the game, I would design it that way, but it's possible that the developers designed it the way the article currently describes it.
hazy mortar
Is this accurate? It wouldn't make any sense for using commands to not disable a...
No itâs true I had to use console to unstuck my prawn and I reloaded and still get achievement
valid nacelle
If Iâm not mistaken, the Reginald is the fish with the highest food value cooked at +44 or around there. Should there be a trivia note about that?
deep kernel
If Iâm not mistaken, the Reginald is the fish with the highest food value cooked...
Iirc on the alien containment page theres a note about the reginald being the 2nd highest food value fish
cursive vigil
Iirc on the alien containment page theres a note about the reginald being the 2n...
Then what is the highest? đ¤
cinder kestrel
Iirc on the alien containment page theres a note about the reginald being the 2nd [most efficient fuel]
First is the Oculus.
valid nacelle
Iirc on the alien containment page theres a note about the reginald being the 2n...
Ah
valid nacelle
> Iirc on the alien containment page theres a note about the reginald being the ...
Really? I believe the wiki says Oculus is less than the Peeper.
But itâs changeable
cinder kestrel
If you include the edit I made to the quote (hence the square brackets), it's what the wiki says.
Peeper article says 420, Oculus article says 630.
heady gulch
sigh fine, I'm testing it in game then.. jeez..
cinder kestrel
What are you doing damage to?
heady gulch
crabsquids
ive also made a fascinating discovery.
any thrown object does 100 damage.
regardless of what it is.
crashfish? 100 damage
peepers? 100 damage (if it collides)
gas pods? 100 impact damage, I dont even know if the gas has an effect.
mushrooms? 100 damage.
Im going to throw some nutrient blocks next and see what happens.
I started with bonesharks as the test group. no matter what I throw at it, 2 hits and it's down. moved up to stalkers, but decided to stop using those as due to their agile nature they kept avoiding me. Im just bad at aiming.
So I took the next best thing, crab squids. 500 hp.
5 hits from literally anything thrown by a propulsion cannon and it's down.
im going to see if I can throw stationary flora other than acid mushrooms at it
funny,
writhing weeds are 3 hits on the boneshark.
coral shell plates also follow the consistent pattern of being 2 hits.
no way.
this is the strangest discovery.. So, somehow, while everything else does 100 damage (most things). the knife (item) when thrown, does more than that. since it can kill a crabsquid in 4 hits instead of 5.. I'm going to try and see if the damage output is determined by range
cinder kestrel
It's not simply adding 100 plus the damage for the knife (20) because that would be only 480 damage in 4 hits.
Unless the propulsion cannon does at least 105 damage . . . ?
heady gulch
Unless the propulsion cannon does at least 105 damage . . . ?
I doubt it, because it shouldnt take out a crabsquid in exactly 4 hits. compared to most other objects being 3
I'm going to try in the grassy plateaus, with the sandsharks. They have 250 health, it might provide better results.
3 hits from the knife takes out a sandshark. okay, so its between 100 < knifedmg < 150
cinder kestrel
If a crabsquid takes 5 hits, then at-least 105 damage/hit will kill it in 5 while knives, if the 105 is cumulative with the 20 damage knifes do, would be 125/hit, or 4 hits for 500 HP. That was my reasonng.
A crabsquid dies it 4 hits from a creature with half its health dies in 3 hits. Interesting.
heady gulch
I'm wondering if its a range related damage output
okay, I can confirm it's damage related to range/acceleration. one of the crabsquids was fleeing. the fourth hit didn't take it out.
did it again, the crabsquid flees after around 2-3 hits. twice in a row the fourth hit did not do enough damage to it. so there is some dropoff at some point.
froze one with the stasis rifle and tested a nutrient block on it. 5 hits. So one thing is at least clear. the knife does more damage when thrown as a projectile compared to other objects.
I'm going to try the acid mushrooms, crashfish, and gas pods on the crabsquid again to see if I can yield the same 5 hit results.
cinder kestrel
so there is some dropoff at some point.
Which is also true for exiting from the Seamoth and taking damage from colliding with the Seamoth (it can instantly kill at full speed but only does some damage at slow damage).
heady gulch
yeah, alright that rules out one damage modifier
heady gulch
> so there is some dropoff at some point.
Which is also true for exiting from th...
but with that damage dropoff, I have a hypothesis. I'm going to see if the crashfish explosion splash does the damage, or the impact itself.
heady gulch
but with that damage dropoff, I have a hypothesis. I'm going to see if the crash...
Its a combination of both, still using the crabsquid as the sample group. up close to near point blank is 4 hits from the crashfish. But once there's significant distance, that number goes up to 5 or 6
But through testing the splash damage against a crabsquid. Unless it has no hitbox in its legs.. The splash damage from the blast isn't very high.
So to make sure the damage numbers are as accurate as can be. I spawned in a sea treader leviathan. (3000 health). And the damage numbers line up. 30 nutrientblocks. so on average, items do 100 thrown damage
~27 acid mushroom hits, I'm guessing splash damage of some kind was for that one, either that or some of the mushrooms musnt have broken on impact.
~26 - direct hit from crashfish. Just to make sure, I manually hatched 30 so I could get them as actual items. In other words.
The splash damage of a Crashfish is not terribly high. consider this:
it took 2,600 damage total from the impacts of the crashfish alone.
and the total splash damage added up from all 26, is only 400 damage.
cinder kestrel
400 or 4000?
heady gulch
Yeah only 400 damage.
meaning, splash damage is around 15.38 per.
which is odd to say the least?
Because I tested this on other fauna, small fauna like reginalds and boomerangs. Thats around 30 health.
splash damage is enough to kill them.
Tested it against a cave crawler (50 health).
Test 1, splash damage wasn't enough to kill it, took a second hit to do the work, test 2: same results. Test 3: a direct hit killed it instantly, just making sure they had no.. direct hit immunity.
its somewhere between 30 < crash fish splash damage < 50
Alright, tested it again against the sandshark (250 hp). It Definitely has splash damage. 2 hits and the sandshark was out. compared to other items (like gas pod) taking 3.
heady gulch
well that was all very insightful.
the latter of which.. is there anything that backs this up?
cinder kestrel
Top or bottom addition?
heady gulch
the seajet
cinder kestrel
heady gulch
He literally ignored what I said.
Gas pods are not good
If it took 29 of them to do 2,900 damage, the splash damage from the gas only made up for 100 damage
That was the actual worst one out of all the items capable of dealing splash damage
cinder kestrel
Which doesn't make sense to me, since the gas does way more than 100/29 (about 3) damage to the player.
heady gulch
Which doesn't make sense to me, since the gas does way more than 100/29 (about 3...
idk its weird man, if I've learned anything, it's that splash damage (acid, gas, explosion) is inconsistent
rigid jacinth
Also that's 3 not 4
cinder kestrel
Which "4"?
rigid jacinth
Says there are 4 extra effect items to use as ammo. He listed 3.
cinder kestrel
He put four in the edit itself.
"Mushroom" referred to acid mushrooms and deep shrooms.
rigid jacinth
Oh, ok
heady gulch
"Mushroom" referred to acid mushrooms and deep shrooms.
acid mushrooms have different variables.
acid mushrooms surprisingly arent as effective as deep shrooms
rigid jacinth
Well aren't deep shrooms supposed to be more potent? Like from a canonical standpoint?
heady gulch
Yeah, Iâm guessing so
Iâm honest to god surprised the acid mushrooms are the strongest projectile
For a tldr if you didnât read the entire thing I wrote up.
Propulsion cannon damage comes from 2 things:
- Collision damage (like the seamoth) is generally just, higher acceleration = higher damage. And the general highest this will be around is 100 damage, rarely past that.
- âSplash damageâ - a small component that only comes from a few items including but possibly not limited too: crash fish, acid mushrooms, deep shrooms, gas pods.
I believe splash damage is inconsistent, as earlier I calculated that the splash damage effect from the crash fish had to be greater than (or equal to) 30, but less than 50 (as a cave crawler can survive the blast). These numbers added up when tested against something like a sand shark
(2x crash fish = 200 impact damage.)
(2x splash damage = ~60-80.)
Was able to consistently kill sand sharks in 2 hits because of that (250 health).
Although when tested on much larger fauna, the easiest being the sea treader (3,000 hp). And also an entirely immobile fauna if you box it in. Things get weird.
That explosion splash damage doesnât add up quite right.
at the minimum. Assuming that at the optimal range, a crashfish will deal 130 damage LEAST (100 impact damage + 30 splash damage). it should take precisely 24 hits on a sea treader to kill it. Not 27 (tested 3 times actually).
overall, acid mushrooms are the most reliable ammo source.
Gas pods are utterly useless. (29x pods = 2,900 impact damage)
These were all fired one after another very quickly, Against a stationary target (sea treader, immobile. effectively in the clouds of gas each time).
that's about.. Roughly 3.5 gas damage per gas pod.
since it took the combined effort of 29 gas pods to muster up 100 damage of gas
now, something I do wonder. Is how does it work in below zero?
heady gulch
They say itâs âpreviously unseenâ. Is that true?
rigid jacinth
What do they mean by that?
heady gulch
Well, for context. Throughout the development of subnautica. The subnautica wiki only accepted material if the devs had shown it off before.
which had problems. Since Concept art sometimes fell into two categories. Material that was available to the public, and material that was not supposed to be available to the public.
Leaks happened quite often, including screenshots, concept art, and materials of in development areas or story material that was not ready to be revealed to the public.
Both the Subnautica discord server and wiki would delete any material uploaded to both the discord and wiki if it were not shown off by the developers in any capacity.
Including many precursor works, and the neptune escape rocket.
(The russian wiki didn't care, they uploaded it there anyways).
However, with the release of subnautica, below zero, and most related contents. I don't know how much this rule still stands as it's been probably years since it had seen use.
As far as we know there isn't much left to be seen... But if someone is uploading leaked concept art, or non public-available developer materials in 2022 this far after the game's 1.0 launch. I'm not sure if we handle it the same way as we did back in 2016 and 2017.
Can't find anything on google search at least. hm. well...
@cinder kestrel Think this might be something that was on one of the developer trellos?
cinder kestrel
We could ask the uploader where they got it from.
heady gulch
yeah I'm gonna go ask them that.
cinder kestrel
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Snow_Stalker seems valid. Anyone want to record a snow stalker attack?
heady gulch
I donât got any recording software for that Kinda stuff
Theres 2 wiki keepers I think we usually ask
Well, 1
We ask xenonuke usually (enso) to help with recording
cinder kestrel
I'll see if I can take care of it soon (if xenonuke doesn't beat me to it).
heady gulch
And last time he did most of the recording stuff for the Neptune escape rocket
lusty hearth
<https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Snow_Stalker> seems valid. Anyone want ...
heady gulch
Oh man SLS
cinder kestrel
That's sooner than the soon I was using.
ripe sail
Is this one rare? I donât think Iâve seen it before
lusty hearth
Is this one rare? I donât think Iâve seen it before
From what I've seen it plays when you have around a third of your health
ripe sail
Kind of a weird offer: if anyone needs good pictures of things (at any angle) from BZ for the wiki just lmk, Ive successfully ripped several assets and am looking to do more đ
heady gulch
Devs arenât fond of people ripping assets from what I know, just a fair warning
ripe sail
i wont redistribute them ofc, and i dont plan to use them for any purposes other than fanart/ wiki
and if they want me to stop i will
inner parcel
anyways i quit my xbox subscpertion for game pass on PC and now i cant play subnatica only below 0 help
heady gulch
anyways i quit my xbox subscpertion for game pass on PC and now i cant play sub...
This is the wrong chat to ask that question
But to answer your question, please check with Microsoftâs guidelines regarding the Xbox gamepass terms of service, if you terminate your gamepass subscription, you should still have the month you paid for. However, if you exceed that. You will simply lose access to gamepass, and that includes below zero
Either re-subscribing to game pass, or purchasing the game on any platform you play on, is your solution
blissful sand
I believe splash damage is inconsistent, as earlier I calculated that the splash...
can the devs just give the damn wiki editors damage numbers, you have 5 calculators out. i commend you for your work on trying to find out how damage works.
heady gulch
can the devs just give the damn wiki editors damage numbers, you have 5 calculat...
sure you can ask them yourself.
blissful sand
DEVS
heady gulch
lemme know what they say.
cinder kestrel
Or we can check the code like some other wikis (e.g., https://minecraft.fandom.com) do.
In-game experimentation is fun, but it's only good enough if it gives good enough data.
hollow glen
What does TBD mean for source?
cinder kestrel
To Be Announced.
One of the two is added when we don't know something; if it's still there, then either we can't know it yet or we can but no one has added it to the wiki yet.
hollow glen
Oh
I'm trying to 100% but the things in personal log I should have gotten I havent.
I have gotten fins but I don't have it
cinder kestrel
One of those things we can find out but haven't yet is when an entry no longer exists. It's possible that entry was removed and the wiki doesn't reflect that yet.
hollow glen
How do i 100% when can't figure out what is still real
cinder kestrel
There's a saying in another Discord server I'm in: ?t yd.
Which triggers a bot to say, "You Don't."
Although, I suppose you could decide for yourself what is real.
hollow glen
Is there a website which has like a checklist or something?
cinder kestrel
#below-zero-chat and https://www.google.com/search?q=a+checklist+or+something are your best bets if the wiki is inaccurate.
warm drum
Is there a place on the wiki that lists all (not just leviathan) creature sizes?
cursive vigil
hello there aci
magic totem
Is there a place on the wiki that lists all (not just leviathan) creature sizes?
Idk I donât check the wiki
cinder kestrel
!wiki Fauna
willow vectorBOT
cinder kestrel
@warm drum
warm drum
I've checked that page, but I don't see any sizes on there
heady gulch
We donât have creature sizes on many of the individual Ryanâs
Idk why autocorrect said fauna
*ryans
Never mind, good to see you again aci
warm drum
hmm alright, guess I'll have to estimate
magic totem
What ya working on there bud
cursive vigil
L
rigid jacinth
We donât have creature sizes on many of the individual Ryanâs
If y'all want I can hop in sometime and get a rough measurement with beacons and a stasis rifle and just use the in-game distance popups
heady gulch
Yeah, i think that's a good idea.
balmy mural
Someone brought this issue to my attention, and tbh idk how yâall can address it but itâs worth mentioning since thereâs a discrepancy apparently
Someone used console commands in their BZ save not realizing it would permanently disable earning achievements. I said well the wiki warns of that, and they replied not on the mobile phone version. So I took a look, and indeed, the big red warning is indeed missing from the phone version so is there a way to fix that? Iâll show the how different it appears on my iPad vs iPhone so you can see, the warning is clearly there for iPad but completely missing for iPhoneđ
iPad version
iPhone version
molten tree
There is not an easy way, because per Fandom SEO guidance those kinds of templates are intentionally hidden on mobile
balmy mural
That really sucks
molten tree
However, that warning should be in the body of the article as well
Right at the top there
balmy mural
But the warning should be the first thing you see, not buried in the verbiage of the article
molten tree
I said "right at the top there" :P
balmy mural
On the phone version I donât see a warning.
molten tree
hold on.
balmy mural
This is the first paragraph you see for BZ
molten tree
balmy mural
That link doesnât take me anywhere
molten tree
it takes you to the Discord message where I said "hold on."
balmy mural
Okđ
molten tree
https://subnautica.fandom.com/index.php?diff=421244 - Subnautica
https://subnautica.fandom.com/index.php?diff=421245 - Below Zero
This will appear on mobile
balmy mural
Cool, thanks! So now theyâll both have warnings if Iâm understanding correctly
molten tree
Aye-aye, and the entire line is bold so it still shouldn't be missable
balmy mural
Thanks so much
molten tree
(I've come to learn that some people scroll past big boxes like those anyway)
(You can place all the warnings you want and someone will still ignore them)
balmy mural
Well we canât help what people donât pay attention to, we do the best we can
molten tree
patent bolt
have anyone stumbled into a disambiguation link when searching for resources on subnautica
not bz
these feel kinda annoying to me
remote leaf
I feel like the disambiguation links are a bit overdone
like if a page is over BZ content, clicking a link shouldnt take me to a disambiguation page and just auto take you to the BZ page
patent bolt
And we got an always broken {{Recipe2}} template
a nice catalog of recipes, but always takes the player to the disambiguation when they want to know how to obtain the material for example
The hard split approach might not be the best option as we see now
but it feels too late to change
So I've got an idea for a semi-automated disposable tool that operates on every article:
- Find
[[standard wikilinks]]to disambiguation pages - If the page title contains
(Subnautica), replace every disambig link with link name +(Subnautica); similar for BZ - If not, the tool would prompt me to categorize if the subject is Subnautica or BZ, and fix links accordingly
cinder kestrel
I started doing that a while ago; for some reason, I thought I finished, but I clearly didn't.
cinder kestrel
In articles that cover both games and discuss a feature in both games at the same time, the disambiguation links should stay (e.g., If the console is opened and/or [[Console Commands]] are used, Achievements will be disabled while in that same play session in [[Achievements]]).
willow vectorBOT
cinder kestrel
Other than that, it's a matter of SLSbot going through all the articles without (Subnautica) or (Below Zero) on the end and fixing the links as appropriate.
patent bolt
Edit request to either MediaWiki:Common.css or MediaWiki:FandomDesktop.css: Please add
#documentation {
clear: both;
margin: 1em 0 0 0;
border: 1px solid #aaa;
background-color: #000033;
padding: 1em;
}
Afterwards, please remove the inline stylesheet from {{Documentation}}
I think this would make light mode support easier
molten tree
I got a better idea
patent bolt
And
.theme-fandomdesktop-light #documentation {
border-color: #0aa;
background-color: var(--theme-page-background-color)
}
that was what I thought but yours was better
thanks very much
molten tree
Yeah I love CSS variables so much
I didn't even know they were really a thing until UCP and it makes it all so much easier
patent bolt
more complaints on the theming of .article-table; stark contrast whith main text in light mode, and too low contrast for links
my opinion is to change --theme-page-background-color--secondary to #000033 for dark mode and unchanged for light mode
molten tree
Changing the variables themselves is not what we want to do, those are automatically generated through ThemeDesigner and Fandom's backend
The .article-table text color change I just made was just a quick fix for now, I wanted to go through and see all of the issues involved i.e. the link colors
patent bolt
is there an equivalent of redefining --theme-page-background-color--secondary in MediaWiki:Common.css in the ThemeDesigner
patent bolt
as a quick and dirty solution for making the boxes elegant, we can add to MediaWiki:Fandomdesktop.css:
.theme-fandomdesktop-dark {
--theme-page-background-color--secondary: #000033;
}
.theme-fandomdesktop-light {
/* In case we want to style this in the future */
/* --theme-page-background-color--secondary: */
}
Redefining the global variables is something I want to avoid at all costs. I fear that modifying them could cause issues in certain global elements and violate Fandom's Customization Policy.
We can define custom variables, or even declare colors the old-fashioned way
patent bolt
For the "new custom variables" path:
.theme-fandomdesktop-dark {
--box-background-color: #000033;
}
.theme-fandomdesktop-light {
--box-background-color: var(--theme-page-background-color--secondary);
}
I am not sure about the naming but I am sure it is for documentation boxes and data bank entries etc
molten tree
@patent bolt Is that your Fandom username as well? McEndu?
patent bolt
yes
molten tree
just adding credit to you for this edit đ
patent bolt
thanks
patent bolt
also with a light background .article-table this edit https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Fandomdesktop.css?curid=216016&oldid=421282 should be undone
molten tree
Looks fine to me
molten tree
Just saving this here because... well, no template should have this kind of message đ¤Ł
All navbox templates have now been replaced with a standardized format using a global Lua module from Dev Wiki to make it all much easier to use, simpler to edit, and faster to load
cinder kestrel
I just spent the past five minutes thinking about infoboxes.
Admittedly, I didn't realize my mistake until I clicked "Show" on Navbox Flora.
I guess that means I should stop working on Regex formulas and go to bed.
molten tree
I don't follow
agile spindle
bed is where one goes when theyre tired
cinder kestrel
All navbox templates
thinking about infoboxes
molten tree
Ah gotcha xD
molten tree
I've remade the Main Page to be much more improved and friendly for new visitors https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica_Wiki
heady gulch
@agile spindle thoughts on this edit?
agile spindle
it literally says squid in the name
if anything it should just link the crab and squid wiki pages, not the kraken lol
heady gulch
alright I'll modify that
fervent grove
Ohh I like the new homepage
molten tree
Ohh I like the new homepage
Thank you đ
sharp jay
mellow rampart
Ohh I like the new homepage
Agreed
lapis quail
I researched truck speeds. Seems it was updated to be faster compared to wiki, and now you can have 2 modules with no speed penalty.
Raw data & graph
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h3HeQVuw14Pvef9R2NaDyOEWkaAZkQKqQmomJv4HfWQ/edit?usp=sharing
Use it if you want
stark copper
i found a removed soundtrack from the early versions of the first subnautica it isnt mentioned in any of the osts
rigid jacinth
The time and effort in this graph proves the guy is a G
turbid veldt
i found a removed soundtrack from the early versions of the first subnautica it ...
Sounds interesting do u know where to find it
deft burrow
molten tree
Nope. An ion aube is required for the tether. /s
rigid jacinth
Direct quotes don't need correction
late island
The wiki is refusing to let me add the SnoozeBall to the cut content page
rigid jacinth
The what?
cinder kestrel
[[Special:Diff/421751]]
willow vectorBOT
rough widget
it breaks my heart that the below zero dialogue wiki doesn't include all the audio notes with the text
I love listening to the voice lines of bz </3
ivory steppe
I love listening to the voice lines of bz </3
I'm sure they will all be on the wiki eventually.
flat pollen
does anybody waant to play subnautica
i just started playing 2 days ago
and i wanted someone just to hangout or chat with
molten tree
It's not a multiplayer game
This channel is for the wiki, not for playing the game itself
cinder kestrel
It's not a multiplayer game
Well . . .
inland carbon
It's a singleplayer game with a multiplayer mod available.
heady gulch
Yes; however, what does that information have to do with the wiki and itâs current state?
wet thicket
The lifepod page for subnautica (not BZ) thermal plant link goes to the disambiguation page, not the subnautica page, should this be changed?
wild comet
molten tree
You're looking for #subnautica-chat
inland carbon
How come there's a page for the subnautica ost but not the below zero one?
inland carbon
Also, with the SN ost, where/when do "Precipice" and "A Tendency to Float" play?
viscid fossil
cinder kestrel
How come there's a page for the subnautica ost but not the below zero one?
You have [[Subnautica OST]] and then you have [[Subnautica: Below Zero OST]].
willow vectorBOT
cinder kestrel
Although, now that I think about it, the first page has four redirects to it, three of which would work really well for the second page.
remote leaf
I honestly wish the pages were just merged like every other game wiki
one page for the same topic
just split into two for each game
SN wiki is the only wiki I ever seen that makes a separate page for stuff like "titanium"
molten tree
That's because they were two different wikis before. We merged the wikis together, which means the pages are initially separate. Combining the pages requires manual work.
remote leaf
yeah I get that
would be a good idea to do that at some point
I really dont think you need to separate pages like this
makes it harder to find things and you get two different pages that are very similar
esp since all the SN page use the old recipe templates, while BZ pages are using the new one
fervent grove
Congratz, you just volunteered to fix the whole wiki. See ya in a few years!
inland carbon
> How come there's a page for the subnautica ost but not the below zero one?
You...
Huh, I don't remember seeing it when I last searched "ost"
cinder kestrel
Maybe because you didn't search "OST" and instead searched "Soundtrack" or something (since "Subnautica: Below Zero Soundtrack" et al. were not pages until I created them yesterday).
inland carbon
Alright.
inland carbon
what the heck
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cyclops redirects to https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Language-wikis
It works fine by searching it up
molten tree
Clicking that link doesn't redirect me
molten tree
I'm on Windows too
inland carbon
10 or 11?
molten tree
...you realize that doesn't matter? :P
inland carbon
Windows is janky, it could be anything.
molten tree
@remote leaf Thanks for the heads up.
remote leaf
cinder kestrel
I just had the Language-wikis redirect thing happen to me on a different wiki. It worked just fine before and it's working just fine after.
rough dune
wat
inland carbon
I just had the `Language-wikis` redirect thing happen to me on a different wiki....
huh, odd. I wonder if it's just some server-side issue.
cinder kestrel
Which one?
fervent grove
Yes
full drum
is anybody able to access the subnautica wiki? it doesnt seem to be working for me
bold totem
it works for me
full drum
yea thanks it just seems to be a problem with my laptop since im able to access it on my phone
balmy mural
Thanks for letting us know
small sage
cursive vigil
Im mean game is like done they can only do update that fix glitches and not gameplay
somber vapor
Is there going to be a third subnautica ?
rigid jacinth
I don't know if you noticed, this is #đwiki-discussion
It's for discussing the wiki
calm briar
Allow us to stream in public voice calls here so we can show off cool stuff
instead of having to add everyone, put everyone in a private group chat
then playing
kinda irratating
molten tree
You're in the wrong channel, this is for the wiki
cinder kestrel
I once streamed AutoWikiBrowser with SLSbot.
But that was back when that was allowed (I just tried and it failed).
heady gulch
Allow us to stream in public voice calls here so we can show off cool stuff
I'd like to clarify this right now for anyone who sees it in the near-future.
A. The Subnautica Wiki team is not associated with the Subnautica devs. We are a group of passionate users who want to analyze, study, and document the game's content and information as much as we can for others to see.
B. We Are not associated with the Subnautica discord moderation either. We don't influence changes to the discord server. We occasionally reach out to the server devs for help with channels or bots though.
C. If you need help for Subnautica or Below Zero, feel free to ask here; however, keep in mind you are more likely going to get a quick response if you ask in #subnautica-chat or #below-zero-chat. As this chat is primarily used for discussing wiki matters and information
cinder kestrel
On occasion, we'll ask the developers a question about something or I'll ask Tuna or Donya to make @willow vector better (and, of course, they provide us with #đwiki-discussion and #đwiki-changes ), but that's about it.
molten tree
(also it's not a Wikipedia, it's just a wiki :P)
heady gulch
Gotcha, fixed
calm briar
ok then
where do i find the most amount of large quartz deposits (other than the lost river) that i can drill with my prawn
fervent grove
Go to the wiki and look it up 
proper needle
fervent grove
I was really hoping you had pinned my comment 
remote leaf
me when people go to wiki and ask "where do I find it"
balmy mural
Allow us to stream in public voice calls here so we can show off cool stuff
I can respond to this. Voice chats arenât moderated, and so are âuse at your own riskâ anyway. Sure, sometimes mods or devs even will drop into the voice chat to see whatâs going on, or if someone pings the mod role about a serious issue going on there, but itâs not routinely monitored. Therefore we certainly canât have people streaming in the voice chat because that would be way too much risk for who only knows what people might end up streaming in there (but Iâm sure it wouldnât take much imagination to think of the possibilitiesđ). So the devs donât allow it. Pretty simple. If you want to mention a stream you have planned, thatâs for Subnautica or Below Zero and it meets server guidelines, you can post it in #đşstreams-and-videos but adding streaming to VC isnât going to happen because the devs choose not to permit it.
frozen seal
I can respond to this. Voice chats arenât moderated, and so are âuse at your own...
If you send a video to a mod and they are in the vc can you have them stream it if they checked it?
sweet ruin
is the wiki down?
molten tree
No, it's loading for me
heady gulch
no.
molten tree
ok
silent gazelle
Ok
fervent grove
Going through my old passwords and accounts and I have tons for different wikis and none of them work now it's all the same fandom thingy xD
thorny thistle
median gull
I swear to god why does it always show that there is unread here
cinder kestrel
My guess is that people send messages here that get deleted before you check this channel.
Maybe @balmy mural , who knows/can find out if messages are being deleted in this channel, can tell us if that's right . . . ?
balmy mural
I have that happen to me all the time, where channels on discord servers will highlight even though nothing new is posted, idk why it happens either tbh
But yeah Iâd know if something got deleted
cinder kestrel
And there I was, thinking you were all just being really good moderators and deleting "click here for free money" before we ever had to see it.
Spam/advertising is annoying, but it's great you take care of it before we see it.
balmy mural
Yeah, checked the logs and something was posted and deleted
Sus link got removed I think it was
Thank goodness for our hard at work bots
They get most of the bad stuff
molten tree
I have that happen to me all the time, where channels on discord servers will hi...
This is indeed because a message gets deleted.
ivory steppe
Isn't this false? https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Battery_(Below_Zero)
median gull
In og thatâs true, idk about Bz
molten tree
Yeah that's definitely accurate in the original Subnautica
ivory steppe
I'm referring to the Below Zero Battery page.
crimson crescent
Yes it's the same on both games
molten tree
Just the two wikis. Merging all of the pages is something that has to be done manually page-by-page.