📚wiki-discussion

[turbid ermine]

Here is for the timecapsule techtype. Clearly, the density here has more chance to spawn a timecapsule than the red ones.

But globally, it is still hard to say.

I would have to calculate in function of their number in each biome.

[proper needle]

But then it basically still comes down to a chance right? Even though there are a ton of points in the screenshot for example, maybe globally only a 'couple' spawn there.

Which could also change over time :p

[cinder kestrel]

Don't worry, I checked the game's spawning data before making this edit. I can send the bit of code & JSON if necessary

[willow vector]

From Special:Diff/353671

[cinder kestrel]

Hmm. What if I actually linked to the edit correctly?

[willow vector]

From w:c:subnautica:Special:Diff/353671

[cinder kestrel]

About 280,000 edits on the Below Zero wiki from now, I can look back on this message and this link will actually mean something.

[somber stone]

it's me

[molten tree]

Locked?

[late island]

wait hold on

[cinder kestrel]

Do we have any articles about the credits at the end of either game (as opposed to the currency Credits)?

[slim eagle]

uhhh im pretty sure ryley is dead, theres no food in the neptune, and the ai wont land until he somehow manifests like 3 billion credits

[cinder kestrel]

I was thinking of the credits that play right before learning of his debt. We currently have a section in an article for the rest of the ending sequence, so we probably don't need a separate for that.

If we do decide to have an article about the ending sequence, I vote that we make a different article from the currently non-existent Credits article so that people can read the credits without being spoiled.

[agile spindle]

He traded information about 4546B in exchange for his debt being erased. Also SLS was talking about the ending credits that roll when the game ends

[slim eagle]

oh mb

[agile spindle]

As opposed to making a new page for credits we should probably just combine all the developers pages into a single page and put it there

@heady gulch I assume you are xenodrone; https://subnautica.fandom.com/f/u/28435078

whats that last post

[heady gulch]

"I am sleeping, please contact another admin."

[agile spindle]

I'm asking about a post you made

[heady gulch]

yeah thats the post translated. what other post might you be referring too

[agile spindle]

why did you post it in russian

[heady gulch]

early morning boredom, saw wiki notif in my gmail social tab when clearing out stuff,

[agile spindle]

okay dont do that

[heady gulch]

👍

I'll edit it right now to english

[fervent grove]

Totally want you to do that more often because I'm not allowed to be rebellious as a PT

[cinder kestrel]

He traded information about 4546B in exchange for his debt being erased
Was that confirmed in Below Zero or a message by staff, or is that simply the most logical conclusion?

[agile spindle]

there was a PDA about it

not sure if you can get it legitimately but it was a thing

[cinder kestrel]

keep all late game and endgame spoilers under a spoiler tag
Done (I hope).

[bitter bolt]

y'all, the pictures in the al-an wiki are a bit outdated

and i don't have the game yet so i cannot do anything about it..but..

just thought id let yall know

[cinder kestrel]

I would like to thank the other Wiki Keepers for being so accepting. I have not played either game in 21 months (I have not played Subnautica or Subnautica: Below Zero since August 2019) but I have still been able to contribute to the wikis. I guess I can thank my bot account (the (& Bot) part of SLScool (& Bot) that you see in the credits) for being part of how I contributed.

[civic mist]

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Ion_Power_Cell have some wrong info

"...but hold five times as much power, at the cost of taking five times longer to be fully charged."

that is wrong

the time to charge is the same as regular cells

the power cell charger page have the correct info

[cinder kestrel]

I have not played either game in 21 months (I have not played Subnautica or Subnautica: Below Zero since August 2019)
This part's actually true.
I guess I can thank my bot account
This part's not true. I am not going to thank my own bot.

[agile spindle]

Were you not the one who posted that message?

[cinder kestrel]

I was; I just wanted to clarify a point.

Even though my relation with my bot didn't deserve to be clarified.

[agile spindle]

have you two been making robot love

[cinder kestrel]

The bot is too young for that; I don't want to go to jail.

It's more a master-slave relation, but only in the sense of the portalsAlien Arches in Subnautica (since they were referred to as "master" and "slave").

[warm hound]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[heady gulch]

There are plenty of cases with biomes where items do spawn, resources, but in such low quantities that it may look like the wiki articles are dated

[glad pewter]

For bz I'd really like a wiki page for all the plants you have harvest seeds from for your base

Because nothing I've tried harvesting gives any seeds

[agile spindle]

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Seeds

[edgy lagoon]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User:SWE21946 mates only done two edits and both were the same vandalism to the same article, don't know if that's worth a block but it is worth a mention

[agile spindle]

gave em a 1-day

[valid nacelle]

hey can someone edit the Glow Whale page on the BZ Wiki to make it a carnivore since I can't seem to do it and last time I checked, eating shoals of fish classifies as being a carnivore.

at least it is not registering that i edited it

[agile spindle]

i think its databank calls it a planktivore

even though yes, eating shoals of fish makes it technically a carnivore

[edgy lagoon]

Might just be me thinking this is weird, so I'll share it here, but do these changes make grammatical sense? https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Seabases?type=revision&diff=355768&oldid=355332

[agile spindle]

yes

[remote leaf]

The databank says it eats shoals of fish

Also the page has the herbivore category

[agile spindle]

isnt it categorized as a leviathan

it shouldnt have diet categories unless the PDA marks it as one

[agile spindle]

someone literally made a talk page lol

[obsidian reef]

Will there be another subnautica??

[midnight summit]

.... humm..... Below zero just came out 2/3 days ago. Calm down ...
We don't know for the moment and i think the subnautica's team don't know too

[hexed tartan]

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Snowfox_Ice_Worm_Attack_Reduction_Module

it says that it is "unfinished" is this just not updated or is it still unfinished?

[onyx river]

Ill fix that

The weird and snake plants aren’t in game right? If so I’ll move them cut content

[austere oxide]

They said to aci that they might MIGHT make another one

[austere oxide]

^^

[midnight summit]

Ohhhh nice ! subnautica : above zero is comming xD

[austere oxide]

Lol

Isin't subnautica a tropical part of the planet?

[wicked night]

!wiki plasteel

!wiki plasteel ingot

-_-

[molten tree]

Just go to the wiki and search on there...

[marble hound]

If you want plaster recipe then one titanium ingot and two lithium

[agile spindle]

you dont even have to go to the wiki tbh

you can google below zero plasteel ingot and get the wiki page as the first result

[late island]

this biome had a concept teaser?

[warm hound]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[agile spindle]

not that im aware

[late island]

huh

weird

[rotund spindle]

i'm not looking to edit the wiki, but i'm trying to generate a recipe tree from the wiki. i found that the source of recipe2 has a massive switch tag with a lot of recipes. does the recipe2 source have every known recipe, or are some recipes still using the old recipe template separately in their pages with no copy in recipe2? after exporting a decent chunk of the wiki, i saw that some articles still had the old recipe tags

also, there's some issues with item positioning in some of the crafting recipes. i'm not using any extensions that would cause this

[heady gulch]

hmm Yeah I think SLS might be able to help there.

@cinder kestrel got any ideas about this? I'm trying to piece it together.

[molten tree]

There's a bunch of questions here

Are all of the recipes included there?
-- Probably not since Below Zero just released, unless you're asking about OG Subnautica.

Are some recipes still using the old recipe system?
-- I mean, you just told us they are. We're discussing unifying the two Subnautica and Below Zero wikis into one, so part of that will require looking at the recipe templates.

The pictured issue
-- That's a Fandom advertisement placed in a <p> tag, so depending on how that template is being rendered, it may need to be re-done to avoid that issue.

[rotund spindle]

1. apologies, i forgot to specify. i'm referring to BZ
2. i did tell you, but was asking if all the ones still using the old recipe system had duplicates in recipe2. for instance, benzene, which is using the old recipe system in its wiki page, still has an entry in the recipe2 source.
3. alright

[molten tree]

oh dear lord... yeah that is one humongous switch tag

[rotund spindle]

for #1, the only thing i can really do is wait, and for #2, i could try combing through the massive xml file (~1 mbyte) with ctrl f

[molten tree]

Mmm, Template:Recipe2 uses Template:Recipe inside of it

[rotund spindle]

it does indeed. it does make it rather easy to look through though

[molten tree]

There might be a way for me to find all pages that directly use Template:Recipe

[rotund spindle]

i think there's only like 5 pages doing that though

[molten tree]

What makes you say that?

[rotund spindle]

i used Special:Export to download all the wiki pages linked in the blueprints section of the bz wiki into a massive xml file. the first of these xml files had only a few instances of recipe and mostly recipe2. i then did a bigger export that included all the templates used in those wiki pages so i could see what was in recipe2 since i couldn't initially find the contents of recipe2 on the public-facing wiki (except for in view source, which i found after doing the second export)

let me actually look through the bigger xml file that includes templates to see which pages are still using the old recipe

benzene is using the old recipe in the recipe section but is using recipe2 in the uses in crafting section

polyaniline is using the old recipe in the architect component fabricator section of the uses in crafting section

[molten tree]

You can just say which pages, you don't need to get specific

[rotund spindle]

alright

synthetic fibers is using it

glass is using it

copper wire is using it

[molten tree]

why do you need to send a message for each page

[rotund spindle]

apologies, i'm just sending the messages as i'm clicking through ctrl f

parallel processing unit and fabricator i think are the last ones

yup, just checked with regex, that's it

[molten tree]

benzene, polyaniline, synthetic fibers, glass, copper wire, parallel processing unit, and fabricator
That's seven pages, that's manageable

[rotund spindle]

alright

the pages i listed were the pages where the old recipe template instances were found, but not necessarily the affected recipes (such as how polyaniline's page is affected but the recipe in question is architect tissues.) i went through and checked the affected recipes, and all but two are in recipe2: the vehicle upgrade console versions of the Prawn Suit Depth Module MK1 Seatruck Depth Upgrade MK2 recipes

[molten tree]

Ideally there wouldn't be a need for any of this switch statement logic and we'd just have a modular template that can take any argument and display as needed

It'd be easier for others to edit as well

[rotund spindle]

what do you mean by "modular template" in this case? the old recipe system?

i ask that since the new system is the switch statement logic and the old system is where each one has the machine, ingredients, and result baked into the template arguments

[molten tree]

But there is no new system because what you're calling the new system is just a switch statement that implements the old system

Which means it centralizes the data onto one template page

it's all still using Template:Recipe

and wikitext was not designed for this

[agile spindle]

all the cool templates i make cause issues

feelsbadman

[cinder kestrel]

and wikitext was not designed for this
Would it better to have pages like Template:Recipe2/Glass and Template:Recipe2/Synthetic Fiber and to have the Recipe2 template paste the contents of Template:Recipe2/{{{Page}}}?

[molten tree]

No, that makes the loading times in the backend worse

Lua > wikitext

[fierce summit]

why isn't there squid shark?

[marble hound]

I don’t think the squidshark is a leviathan

[fierce summit]

but even pda says it

[marble hound]

:o

that's a problem

[onyx river]

iirc, its not a leviathan because its not under the "Leviathans" tab in the PDA, so its a bit contradicting

[compact umbra]

he is always attacking my base

and im always raged

[onyx river]

The squidshark is also a lot smaller than the other leviathans

[compact umbra]

i like that in SN BZ the animations of dying are better than in normal SN...

[ivory steppe]

You can't convince me that it's not a leviathan. Tom Jubert says it is one, so that's what my brain wants to stick with.

[heady gulch]

To be fair.

The smallest leviathan in subnautica, the sea trader leviathan is about 22 meters cubed. This is the adult one of course. And the sea treader falls into leviathan classification in name and pda.

Squid shark is 11 meters in length, only half that.

So if we were to count the squid shark as a leviathan, it’s pretty much the smallest one in existence.

[fervent grove]

What's the size of a squidshark compared to a cryptosuccubus, a jelly snake and a crab squid?

[agile spindle]

its about equal to an ampeel

prolly smaller than a crabsnake

dunno wtf a jelly snake is

[fervent grove]

Jelly snake, the snakes that live in the jelly mushroom place

[agile spindle]

crabsnake

[fervent grove]

Thats no fun

[agile spindle]

get them to change it then mr playtester

[fervent grove]

So if the squidshark is about an ampeel size, surely that means it's not a leviathan?

[agile spindle]

thats what weve been telling them

[heady gulch]

all the creatures in BZ, or most of them, Are significantly smaller than those in Subnautica.

especially the leviathans, excluding the ventgarden.

[fervent grove]

But in terms of relativity, the squidshark is still too small to be leviathan class imo. It could easily be picked off by a king prawn or a nightmare shadow

[agile spindle]

yea or even a rooty tooty aim and shooty

[fervent grove]

I am unfamiliar with that one

[weary sparrow]

Me too

[agile spindle]

@molten tree there's a user that has a biography? on their profile

it contains swearing

is there something we can do about that

[molten tree]

1. why are you asking me about this in the public chat
2. why aren't you linking the user

[twilit quartz]

you can't obtain this item through playing, I think it should be noted, I spent an hour trying to get it

[onyx river]

Side note: didn’t that plant get a new name?

[lusty hearth]

No.

[onyx river]

Ah 🤔

[cursive vigil]

!wiki crab claw kelp

[agile spindle]

the wiki has a search bar

[tawny saffron]

Measured with the swimfast cheat, which locks your current speed; turning WASD into acceleration vectors instead of speed vectors. it would be nice to have the speeds of different creatures in the Wiki

(Note: I assumed the chelicerate and void chelicerate have the same speeds. they don't. Chelicerate attack is 20 but Void Chel is 25. The glow whale may sometimes attempt to evade creatures, and this speed is 7.)

[cursive vigil]

yea i know, i was tryna help someone in #subnautica-chat because they were wondering if you could grow crab claw kelp. but i guess tuna or another mod got tired of people spamming the wiki bot and disabled it. i wondered if it was that channel only but its server wide.

[agile spindle]

you can link them the page

[cursive vigil]

ye ik, i just told them though

[quick hare]

it says cave crawlers spawn in dunes on wiki but they dont

[ivory steppe]

They do.

[quick hare]

they do?

[warm hound]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[quick hare]

i thought they drowned under water someone told me that

[chilly wyvern]

Where do I get diamonds

[reef talon]

first game would be in shale outcrops near the aurora and bz is deep twizzler bridges and ||koppa mine near delta island||

[ivory steppe]

Heheheh... Deep Twizzler Bridges.

[marble hound]

Oh that is a funny name

[hollow crescent]

well i do like twizzlers

so im down to rename it that

[vale jolt]

kann mir jemand helfen?

[fervent grove]

English speaking only, please! Bitte nur Englisch sprechen!

[latent pumice]

is there a reason cryptosuchus has no health value

on wiki des

[fervent grove]

Yeah they bite too much to ask them

[late island]

Where does the track Slow Burn play?

[late island]

Consider though that Tom never got to finish his PDA entries and the placeholder/WIP entries he did have weren't touched after the fact by anyone else

[lusty hearth]

It doesn't play anywhere.

[long flame]

Yall should get an RC channel for the wiki
Edit: nvm you got one

[late island]

I see

[marble hound]

I feel like i remember someone saying there was a plan to bring both wikis together

[agile spindle]

if it happens it won’t be for a few months

[marble hound]

O

but if you do a little thing i saw which is cool:

in the splatoon wiki they have a little tab you can click for things that are in both games, and you can view info for the item in either.

https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Splattershot_Jr.
For example on top of the stats area you can see a tab for both games

[agile spindle]

hm that is interesting

[molten tree]

If you're talking about the infobox, yeah that's not a problem

[marble hound]

Yeah the infobox

dont really know what wiki terms and all that stuff is

[valid nacelle]

Where's the "Divide Music - Survive" Jukebox music disc on the Outpost Zero page? I can't find it anywhere in the little tabs. I believe it should be in the "Others" tab.

I love that song (heard it in creative mode)

[molten tree]

It's a wiki

You can edit it yourself

[valid nacelle]

yes Ok but it doesn't usually cooperate when I edit it.

[molten tree]

Switch to the source editor in your preferences

[quick hare]

!wiki exterior growbed

[molten tree]

Commands are not supported. Go to the wiki to search it.

[junior bane]

hey can someone help make a actual gallery https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Prawn_Suit_Grappling_Arm i failed since im new to adding/fixing wikis

[late island]

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Device_Lighting currently trying to figure out more stuff to make this page an actual thing, if anyone has more details on this please feel free to add stuff

[cinder kestrel]

If you buy me some of those devices, I can experiment for you.

Alternatively, if someone wants to check out the code . . .

[lusty hearth]

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/North_pole

[molten tree]

You can't just post screenshots and assume we know what page you're talking about

Link?

Ah, you're using HTML

Don't do that :P

[cinder kestrel]

You can't just post screenshots and assume we know what page you're talking about
I don't think I'm included in that "we."

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Tables can give you some information on making tables.

That being said, are you sure we need that article when we already have https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Console_Commands ?

[molten tree]

precursorkeys and resetmotormode are the only ones not listed on the Console Commands page

plus the entire Give tab

and all four images

Still, no need to have two of these pages

@vernal cypress I'd also like to warn you about editing a page multiple times. You edited that page 17 times. That spams the changes log. Preview your edits before you submit them.

[cinder kestrel]

I'll start the process of merging the articles. In addition to combining the information, there's some technical stuff that needs to happen.

[molten tree]

Dunno what you mean, SLS

I just deleted the page and recreated it as a redirect :P

Here's the four images

DevOptCommands(1).jpg|Commands Tab
DevOpt(Give).jpg|Give Tab
DevOpt(Teleport).jpg|Teleport Tab```

[cinder kestrel]

If you want to view the Developer Option page you made, you can find it at https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Console_Commands?oldid=355951. You might find it useful when you're merging the information.

[molten tree]

SLS

do not do that

[cinder kestrel]

Merging, or . . . ?

[molten tree]

Merging the two pages

If someone looks through the page history, they'll think Linkoss deleted half the page

Fixed it. The revisions are deleted again. Please please please don't merge articles like that. I've only ever done that merge operation for image pages.

[cinder kestrel]

It is exactly what https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Administrators'_how-to_guide#Merging_page_histories recommends when articles should be merged, and in my opinion, the article deserved to be merged instead of simply deleted.

Why was I wrong?

[molten tree]

That help page says: "Merging page histories is a way of fixing cut-and-paste moves to maintain a complete edit history."

Linkoss did not copy the page

They started a brand-new one

Like I said, the problem here is that if someone went through the merged page history, May 18->May 23 would look like Linkoss was a troll who deleted half of the page, which is not true but that's what the merged history looked like.

Console Commands has hundreds of revisions over a period of years. The new Developer Option page had 17 revisions over the last few days. That's not a situation where you merge the two. That's a situation where you simply redirect one to the other; the page history is completely irrelevant because it's already been done.

If I've ever seen a main namespace article merge, it was very rare. I've done this operation dozens of times for image articles but I rarely, if ever, see it in practice in a wiki's main namespace. Merging a new article with an old article corrupts the history and confuses people who have no idea why there's seemingly two different pages in one single page's history.

[fervent grove]

^This person is smart. Can we keep them?

[pastel stirrup]

claim them

[fervent grove]

Consider them claimed

[molten tree]

On the contrary, I work for Fandom, so technically I've claimed Subnautica

[fervent grove]

Aha...oh...hmm

Processing

[shell quest]

so i ate my marblemelons b4 i knew i could grow them is there any other places to find them?

[ivory steppe]

Ask in #subnautica-chat or the #below-zero-chat. Depending on what game you're playing.

[onyx river]

Is there a reason the oculus page is locked? If not can someone unlock it, i'd like to add the food and water values tables

[agile spindle]

donezo

[onyx river]

thanks

[molten tree]

Everyone is invited to Fandom's first Downstream, a Twitch stream series that will cover updates on major topics including FandomDesktop and the Fandom brand. The first stream will be tomorrow at 8 AM U.S. Pacific Time on Fandom's Twitch channel, https://twitch.tv/Fandom. Blog post: https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/Announcing_The_Downstream

To any admins that have been attending The Monthly, The Downstream will be in lieu of The Monthly this month, so join the community on Twitch tomorrow!

[molten tree]

This channel is for the wiki...

[flint verge]

I don't know if this is a bug with my game or incorrect on the wiki but i couldn't build the base air pump even though i had made a standard oxygen tank like the wiki said. i was able to unlock it with commands however

[cursive vigil]

Riley should sue alterra for the crash and drop a due credits like at the end of the game

Plus how could alterra know about the rest of 4546B with him

[flint verge]

This channel is about the wiki not random discussion

[cinder kestrel]

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/The_FandomDesktop_opt-in_is_now_LIVE
So you know that new desktop skin that they've been working on? They've finally released the beta for it. You can click the banner at the top to use it, or you can go your preferences (https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Preferences), go to the Appearance tab, and change the skin you want to use.

One of the purposes is to allow us to prepare this . . .

to look something like this (but better) . . .

before the skin is rolled out to everyone.

In addition to the blog I linked to in my first message today, there's also https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:FandomDesktop_preparation_guide to consider (which is linked to in the blog but is important enough to say again).

[stable helm]

is it true that we can contribute to the wiki? i know that is specified in the page but i still like to ask

[onyx river]

Yep, anyone can

[molten tree]

Regarding the new skin, please keep in mind that it is brand-new and needs a lot of coding and fixes over the coming days, so don't be alarmed by any style issues you may encounter

[stable helm]

Alright, thanks for clarifying.

[cursive vigil]

@quick hare has a question @molten tree

[quick hare]

there is an issue related to wiki, It says On crag field page it says cave crawlers spawn in crag field but on cave crawler page it says they don't spawn in crag field

[cursive vigil]

Sorry for the ping sly, i just saw you typing for a sec and i didnt want to bother an inactive wiki keeper

[quick hare]

oh yeah i already messaged them-

[molten tree]

I'm typing everywhere 🥷

but yeah I can't verify if cave crawlers spawn in the crag field or not, if someone else can get that verification then we can set the record straight on both pages

[quick hare]

Ight

[crimson steeple]

How do I become a wiki keeper

I wanna help with the wiki

[molten tree]

You don't need to be a wiki keeper to help with the wiki

Anyone can edit the wiki

[fervent grove]

The Wiki Keeper role is given to those that devote significant personal resources, like time and effort, to updating, maintaining, and monitoring the Wiki for both BZ and SN1. You don't need to be a wiki keeper to contribute, nor should you feel obligated to devote such time and effort. All positive contributions are welcome!

[ivory steppe]

Besides the pages that are protected. 😆

[crimson steeple]

I'd defitely search the game for wiki stuffs :P

[fervent grove]

Be sure to check out the to do list (is there a to do list? ) and scan pages for information before adding/editing. It's easy to miss something if it has another name or incorporated within another page! If you're unsure of anything, just ask here :)

[cursive vigil]

Is there any pages about the old story plot of below zero? (Appart of cut content)

[agile spindle]

we have a todo list but im not sure its up to date

[cursive vigil]

Alright thanks

[zenith grove]

I'll make the next subnautica wiki

lol

[cursive vigil]

You made subnautica :0

[zenith grove]

yus

[cursive vigil]

im proud of you

[zenith grove]

Thank you

The idea just popped into my head one day

while I was eating egg with orange juice

[cursive vigil]

you raised such a nice community and made one of the best games

[zenith grove]

thank you

unfortunately the other devs refused to make me a mod on this server so I am stuck as a simple subnaut

[cursive vigil]

awh :(

[zenith grove]

😦

[fervent grove]

Same

[tidal nimbus]

My kid needs a dantal operation laughing gas or anesthesia??????

[turbid ermine]

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Rock Values are 20% silver, 25% gold, 50% copper & 5% titanium on the harvesting node.

[cursive vigil]

;p;

[marble hound]

Says the play tester

[sudden dove]

thatsthejoke.jpg

[cursive vigil]

should i get a habitat builder or a mobile vehicle bay with my 1 computer chip?

[sudden dove]

Why are you asking in here

[cursive vigil]

where else do i ask?

[sudden dove]

Depends! Which game?

[cursive vigil]

oh my bad, i thought i was in below zero chat

[sudden dove]

Damn son. You wandered off the trail a good ways 😂

[fervent grove]

*Darn

Gotta keep it clean Tuna

[cinder kestrel]

Depends! Which game?
Whichever of the two uses a computer chip in the mobile vehicle bay recipe.

[fervent grove]

See now that's just showing off

[boreal basalt]

hello wiki keepers. it would be awesome if there was a wiki entry for the pilot's last known location (in BZ) with the coordinates for quick reference. thanks!

[ivory steppe]

I don't think the signal should have its own wiki page. It's more likely to be explained on the Lilypads Crevice page or Marguerit Maida’s Base page.

[warm hound]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[onyx river]

Root pustule is the actual name right?

[warm hound]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[ivory steppe]

It is.

Root Globule is incorrect.

[warm hound]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[onyx river]

right, can an admin/mod change this ^

[ivory steppe]

Sorry, Desk. Assume I know.

[remote leaf]

@onyx river done

anyways, leaving this here for admins, https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/User:CK_Gametime
guy made meme pages, so a block is needed

[balmy mural]

Prawn Suit | Subnautica: Below Zero Wiki | Fandom

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Prawn_Suit

Wanted to point out a few things that seem to be inaccurate. You can access the accessories panel from moonpool (and also while docked on seatruck). You can also craft prawn accessories at a regular fabricator in BZ (other than the upgraded depth module which still requires use of the modification station).

The latter part wasn’t mentioned, that’s all

So really it was the part about having to undock it from moonpool to get to the accessories slot that was inaccurate

Also, might be nice to clarify the storage modules add on to base (existing) storage in the section where modules are discussed

I know it’s mentioned in the main section but sometimes people just skim

[fervent folio]

this still broken?

[lime wedge]

Which one is it?

[cinder kestrel]

The link has "mezmer-trip" in it.

[molten tree]

It's still in the works

[fervent grove]

Can confirm, it looks like a wiki

[late island]

should this be here https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica_Quantitative_Phylogeny

I don't think this should be here

don't delete it yet hold on

[agile spindle]

i dont know what you're doing with it but no, it should not be there

it belongs in a blog

[cinder kestrel]

Now you can delete it (I'm just assuming that Dinofuzz asked you not to delete the article in order to give the creator of that article time to copy its contents).

[cinder kestrel]

I'm uncertain about https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cyclops?diff=356089.

It's prettier, more descriptive, and is also closer to the in-game canonical icon.

Usually, I either agree with using emojis/symbols on wikis or I disagree with it, but this time, I'm not sure.

[agile spindle]

i think its fine

[molten tree]

That's definitely better

[late island]

I wonder if there's any easy way to get all the locations of ore veins for the map page potentially, or if that'd have to be done manually

[cinder kestrel]

I'm sure it's possible, but I doubt the solution is easy.

[iron crest]

Is the base-attached air pump supposed to be in BZ?
It doesn't seem to be able to be unlocked (certainly not in the way the wiki says), so it'd be helpful to either mention this issue on the page or remove the base-attached air pump from https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Pipes

[iron crest]

it would also be nice to have a column in https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica:_Below_Zero_OST that indicates what the debug name for each music track is, since the pages for biomes list the music based on debug name

[onyx river]

Pretty sure the title listed on the OST page is the same as the ones on biome pages

[onyx river]

This is the wiki discussion channel.

[fervent grove]

Can confirm, smart people talk here

[lime wedge]

Need brain for smarts, I don't have that

[steep spire]

hyena?

[ivory steppe]

Should Spy Pengling Sites have their own wiki page?

[agile spindle]

i think putting them on the glacial basin page is fine

[fervent grove]

I think every spy penguin should have a dedicated page

[ivory steppe]

100% agreed. Let's make it happen, wiki keepers! 😂

[onyx river]

@lethal marsh

[cursive vigil]

<@&85343211593166848>

[onyx river]

Thanks

[lethal marsh]

wut?

[onyx river]

Someone posted a link

[cursive vigil]

A virus to be exact

On mega a "free nitro generator"

[latent pumice]

triops does not have crystal caves/ fabricator caverns on biomes, fauna page

am i helping or should i mind my own business

[onyx river]

Feel free to help, the wiki is open for anyone to edit

[iron crest]

what sort of work is helpful for the wiki?
new info? elaboration? grammar edits?

[agile spindle]

adding details and fixing grammar is always helpful

[marble hound]

Ehehehehe I would be good at that (maybe)
Idk I tend to correct people when they spell something wrong because it just bothers me to see it lol

[latent pumice]

thanks

[gusty lagoon]

Updates are also added in large sizes, so there's always information to update or coordinates to clarify.

Especially when people use wiki guides as a last resort. (They usually work)

[cursive vigil]

<@&85343211593166848> they're everywhere D:

[solar nebula]

can someone add something to the spy pengling page that mentions that it can gather snow stalker fur directly from the stalkers themselves? this feels like pretty useful info but the game never mentions it and I just learned it by accident, but its also not on the wiki as far as I can tell

[lament spoke]

It is on multiple pages

[heady gulch]

Reduced to atoms

[ivory steppe]

Snow Stalker Fur page should have it.

[onyx river]

Agreed, there's barely any information on Preston

[onyx river]

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Fins_(Disambiguation) is this page still necessary? There are only 2 pages on it

[agile spindle]

yes

[heady gulch]

Ah yes it’s the video that crashes discord

How I wonder what it has to do with the wiki

[onyx river]

@proper needle halp

[heady gulch]

<@&85343211593166848>

Reduced to atoms

[cunning oak]

I got them very quickly

[heady gulch]

Thank you

[ivory steppe]

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Ideas Page needs deleting.

[brittle acorn]

plz someone when is ps5 version coming to middle east/saudi arabia

[fervent grove]

Let me consult the wiki... No idea

[dusky ermine]

been a year and im back with the same image of the hellhole for the cut content page

[agile spindle]

i can almost see a second pixel in the picture

[sturdy barn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Subnautica_Below_Zero/comments/o8wf9x/outdated_data_on_wiki_page/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[agile spindle]

the page isnt locked so anyone can edit it

[cinder kestrel]

Well, not just anyone. Only users with an account can edit it.

To us, of course, that means anyone can edit the article (because we know that anyone can create an account and then edit the article), but when we actually think about it or when your average person attempts to edit it, not everyone can edit it.

[cursive vigil]

hmm

[cinder kestrel]

I'll be on "vacation" for the next five weeks, so you won't see me until then (and even then, you won't see me, but I'll be back).

[quartz flower]

Does anybody know what is the font used in the PDA? The font used in the logo appears to be called Days One but i'm not sure what the one inside the game is.

[pure iron]

On the databank page on Subnautica Below Zero, when the source is "TBA", is it canon ?

Hm?

Like was it just removed to the game but still canon? or was it removed because it wasn't

[onyx river]

Which databank?

[pure iron]

Lemme get an example

Public Documents

A Question of Clones - Part 1=

under it says "Source: TBA"

which is to be added I think

but the game is out

[onyx river]

It means “to be announced” but it’s more likely that it hasn’t been updated yet.

Oh shoots, there are 40 TBA pdas, but I have no idea where they’re located

[pure iron]

Yeah, and there's still the Vesper

I think most of the cut content is till there

I think all the logs and stuff from the first version weren't removed

and people added the new logs to it

so its all mixed up

[pure iron]

I finally did it lol

[cursive vigil]

can you send the ham and cheese message?

[formal ingot]

in Trivia for Warper, can someone add the fact on how they look like Mantises with their body shape and how their arms look?

[hallow basalt]

I think the font for the Recipe template doesn't display properly. It has both sans-serif and aller set as fonts but picks neither and just displays it as Times New Roman. Setting the font-family to allerreg instead of aller would probably fix it, and moving sans-serif next to it because it's placed separately for some reason: https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Recipe

[molten tree]

@hallow basalt Screenshot?

[hallow basalt]

I could show it on RecipeTest since it seems to not be working there either

[molten tree]

I wasn't asking for a screenshot of the code, I was asking for a screenshot of what you're seeing :P

[hallow basalt]

right right

looks like this

should probably look like this

[molten tree]

Hmm hmm hmm

[hallow basalt]

barely noticeable but it's there

[molten tree]

Yeah idk what's up with the setup there. I've combined the two declarations and added allerreg as an intermediary fallback

Fixed on RecipeTest as well, thanks for the report 👍

[hallow basalt]

np

[hallow basalt]

The image for Hivemind doesn't appear on the Fauna page. The file needs to be renamed/moved from Hivemind Flora to Hivemind Fauna.

[agile spindle]

done

[verbal jolt]

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Fabricator_Caverns

Is the background for this page going to be changed?

It has a seamoth

[agile spindle]

its concept art

[heavy lake]

me looking for the seamoth👀

[agile spindle]

its not the embedded picture there

its this one

personally I don't think it matters whether the seamoth is there

cause we have a pattern of putting concept art as the background on all biome pages

[icy ember]

Wait, if anyone can edit the wiki page, then why hasn't anyone just deleted everything lmao

[agile spindle]

because as soon as they do we can see the changes, undo them with one button, and ban them permanently

people have tried

[icy ember]

ban them from editing the wiki, seeing the wiki completely, or one of the above and a Discord ban?

[agile spindle]

just from editing

[icy ember]

Oh makes sense

[tribal shard]

@fierce cave had a good point about a subnautica map on the wiki

some wrecks are absent

[fierce cave]

It's this map, on the crater map wiki page for the original Subnautica. Many wrecks are gone and the destroyed lifepods are in the completely wrong locations

[agile spindle]

probably remove it then, there are a lot of maps on that page hopefully one or two of them shows the correct locations

[formal ingot]

Maybe add a map of the aurora to the aurora page? I need help traversing it with a map

[agile spindle]

dont know that ive ever seen one

[terse latch]

I have

[sudden dove]

Check the pins in #subnautica-chat

[molten tree]

<@&85343211593166848> ^

[trim timber]

they posted it in other channels too

disgusting….

[rich star]

what are the lore implications of this

[molten tree]

we try not to think about it

[rich star]

bonesharks can fly this is cannon now

[arctic citrus]

ok...

[pure iron]

Are there any ways to get access to pda dialogue on the subnautica below zero fandom?

[onyx river]

Voice or text? Cause all the text is on the wiki

[pure iron]

voice

People reference the PDA Dialogue "||PDA: This vehicle lets you zip around on snowy surfaces, just like they did back in the snowfox derby of 2342.||" but I can't find any recordings of it

[molten tree]

<@&85343211593166848> ^

[cinder kestrel]

The "vacation" I mentioned at the beginning of the month ended a week early, so I'll be properly back tomorrow.

[summer kindle]

The retu rn

[agile spindle]

how was your "vacation"?

[cinder kestrel]

It was even better than I was hoping for.

But if you want me to join the server you invited me to, you'll need to DM me the invite link again.

[molten tree]

Oasis will be removed from preferences next week. The useskin URL parameter will be removed two weeks after that. https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/Retirement_of_legacy_designs

[cinder kestrel]

Someone just tried to hack into my Fandom account and did the Reset Password thing. How cute.

Seeing as how my password is more than twenty characters long, I can't blame them for not wanting to try and guess it.

[agile spindle]

did you trace their ip and unleash the full power of the united nations upon them?

[cinder kestrel]

That's the company's job, if it's anybody's.

I'm surprised it's the first time someone's tried Reset Password on my account.

[boreal basalt]

Hello wiki people. There is an embed fail for the Crabsquid sounds on this page.
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Crabsquid

[molten tree]

This happened to all wikis using the SoundCloud tag. There'll be a public update on the solution to this so leave it be for now and we'll get around to updating it when Fandom's got an update

[boreal basalt]

Ah, alright 👌

[near ibex]

Wiki says magnetite is abundant in the mountains, so I went to the mountain caves, placed a scanner room in the middle and found 1 single magnetite on the eastern coast. That's it.

[radiant copper]

According to the wiki there are no large silver deposits in the jellyshroom caves but there definitely are

[loud needle]

There is no recipes in any of the items, buildings, etc. In subnautica wiki

[molten tree]

Link me to the page where you're seeing this?

[loud needle]

Uh... almost every page

[sudden dove]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Repair_Tool_(Subnautica)

[loud needle]

Its actually because there is nothing in it

[molten tree]

no that's not why

it's because the pages were renamed

[loud needle]

Oh

[molten tree]

Should be fixed now

We're in the middle of merging the Below Zero Wiki into the main Subnautica Wiki so things may be a little wonky for a bit. Please report any other issues you may find

[loud needle]

And also in bz's wiki there is no pages with "(Below Zero)" in name of it, so disambiguation pages are almost useless

[molten tree]

the BZ wiki is going to be shut down

[loud needle]

O
ooooh

[molten tree]

This was announced in https://subnautica.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000105825

and I posted a final notice on BZ yesterday https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000046045

[loud needle]

Okay
anyway, good luck with it

[fierce cave]

uhh

[molten tree]

Link, please

[fierce cave]

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Frozen_Leviathan

[molten tree]

reverted, thanks

[radiant copper]

Lmao

[near ibex]

Why does the bioreactor page list the energy values of fauna that's too big to take?

a reefback is supposed to give 840 energy... how?

[molten tree]

It's probably showing what the value is set to in the game data

but no I don't think it's possible for the typical user to literally scoop up a Reefback and put it in the bioreactor

[near ibex]

Maybe a better question would be why the game data lists the energy values of leviathans

[molten tree]

It might just be the way it's coded, that every living fauna has to have some value for the bioreactor. It could also just be an in-joke among the devs.

[near ibex]

though wiki doesn't list it for the actual leviathans

[molten tree]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cinder kestrel]

Using commands, you can get a reefback egg. You can take the resulting baby reefback and put it into a bioreactor (unless that's somehow changed recently).

[pure iron]

Hey can I ask a question to anyone here?

its regarding an information found on the Subnautica Below zero Wiki

[ivory steppe]

That's... what this channel is made for.

[pure iron]

Good point

Question is: Does anyone have any infomation on the message "PDA: This vehicle lets you zip around on snowy surfaces, just like they did back in the snowfox derby of 2342." when you build a snowfox ?

It is referenced multiple times on the wiki but does not seem to exist ingame. I can't find any recordings of it anywhere either...

I've been looking for quite some time now

[nocturne bison]

I’ve had it in-game weird that there aren’t many others that have

[pure iron]

Really?

Is it the latest version?

[nocturne bison]

Could be possibly tied to the “Like Riding a Bike” achievement

Yes it was on 1.0 release update

[pure iron]

Wait is it still in your dialogues tab on your PDA?

[nocturne bison]

I don’t have access to that save at the moment

The pc with the save is about 9km away

[pure iron]

Ah oof

Ok

But when did you get the message?

But when did you get the message?

when you built a snowfox?

[nocturne bison]

Wait I do have an older version of the save on dropbox it might be after I built a snowfox

I’ll get on my pc later

[pure iron]

kk

If anyone else have a recording of the message, please let me know !

[pure iron]

any update?

[nocturne bison]

No my work is taking unexpectedly long

[pure iron]

no worries

[pure iron]

._.

[pure iron]

Could I ask a question to anyone?

[proper needle]

Don't ask to ask, just ask the question 😄

That broke my brain

[pure iron]

Is the PDA Message "||PDA: This vehicle lets you zip around on snowy surfaces, just like they did back in the snowfox derby of 2342.||" still ingame? (In Subnautica: Below Zero)

[proper needle]

Doesn't seem to be in the language file.

[pure iron]

it appears multiple times on the fandom

[radiant copper]

Large silver deposits are missing on the jellyshroom page

And it doesn't say anything about the geysers

And the degasi base

[sudden dove]

It's missing because there are no large silver deposits in the jellyshroom.

[radiant copper]

There definitely are

[pure iron]

Is it not?

[cinder kestrel]

I just found a large silver deposit in the Jellyshroom Caves.

And the degasi base
It briefly mentions the base in a spoiler section:

In total, I have discovered (with the help of the Scanner Room) two large silver deposits in the Jellyshroom Caves.

[sudden dove]

550 hours in this game and I'm still learning something new lol. Apologies @radiant copper, you were right! 😄

[proper needle]

Like I said I couldn't find it mentioned, you could look in the game files. It's there in a text file somewhere 😛

[cinder kestrel]

I'm going to check this, but I'm guessing it's a lot rarer than the other deposits in the Jellyshroom Caves.

[radiant copper]

no problem theres not a lot of them

are large deposit locations random?

[turbid ermine]

They use RNG yes.

Slots themselves (location of the possible resources) are not random.

76 slots for Jellyshroomcaves_cavesand.

[radiant copper]

Ah

[radiant copper]

Oh sorry didn't see that

[near ibex]

Can someone confirm that this needs fixing? Or is it just my game? There was only 1 magnetite on the gun island.

[onyx river]

Resource spawns are semi random, so chances are you got an unlucky roll.

[radiant copper]

You can always go to jellyshroom cave it pretty much always has tons of magnetite

[near ibex]

I did and it was extremely abundant there, as it always is. I don't think I got an unlucky roll unless someone can confirm it.

If the mountain and its caves can have hundreds of outcrops and lithium, and literally 1 piece of magnetite (found with a scanner room), the wiki page shouldn't claim that "Magnetite is a raw material found abundantly in the Mountains and Mountains Caves"

[proper needle]

The jelly cave has a ton of it, but it's extremely difficult to spot due it being almost the exact same colour as the terrain and it's small.

[near ibex]

I know, that's why I used a scanner room.

[proper needle]

No idea about the mountains, I don't hunt for resources there xD

[radiant copper]

Reaper always finds me

[proper needle]

Do you play on the regular version of Subnautica?

[radiant copper]

The caves on the island are amazing tho

[desert mesa]

Anybody know why there's user blogs in the story category?

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Story

[desert mesa]

Can't edit them myself

[radiant copper]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:1heHoverfishGen/meme_(the_post)

Lol

[near ibex]

Engine Efficiency Module redirects to Cut Content https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Engine_Efficiency_Module

[agile spindle]

fixed, thanks for the heads up

[desert mesa]

No problem, however there is still this page: https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User:Donojay

(Which is still in the story category)

[pure iron]

Does anyone know if ||a Corporation and a Trans-Gov|| are the same thing?
and is ||the Trans-System Federation an organization or the name of the alliance of the 37 trans-govs||?

[agile spindle]

my bad, fixed as well

[desert mesa]

Thanks! And no need to apologize!

[near drum]

Someone sent this elsewhere, should it be doing that?

[fierce cave]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Thermal_Plant_(Below_Zero)

[near drum]

looks like a link loop

[cinder kestrel]

We haven't fixed those yet, but we will soon.

[pale yacht]

scanner rooms arent their own biome, contrary to what the wiki says

unless im just doing it wrong

neither are alien containments

[agile spindle]

that was added years ago by an ex-admin and added to by several other users

might not be correct any longer

[pale yacht]

the article is protected so i think i cant edit it

[agile spindle]

it isn't protected unless you are trying to edit without an account

[cinder kestrel]

I just tested the Scanner Room, Observatory, and Alien Containment in Below Zero. The biome did not change in any of them.

The only exception was the Music Biome for the Scanner Room when underwater, which changed to "DropPod (override)" and therefore played Drop Pod music.

[pale yacht]

observitory in sn1 has its own biome

but its just for the player

[agile spindle]

just for the player...?

isnt the player the only who can tell the biome changes anyway

[cinder kestrel]

In Subnautica, the only change in biome was the Player Biome (not the LD Biome) in the Observatory, both above water and below water.

I'm not sure what the LD in LD biome stands for.

Although, it only lasts for a few seconds before the Player Biome switches from observatory to whatever-the-LD biome-is-which-is-what-biome-the-player-is-in.

[agile spindle]

level design?

shortened level of detail?

[cinder kestrel]

I'm seeing a lot of messages from Cory with LD and a lot with Level Design or Level Designers, so I assume it's Level Design.

[agile spindle]

<@&85343211593166848> ^ obvious scam

[cinder kestrel]

Sometimes, it's fun to take things out of context.

And maybe other times, it's not.

[daring relic]

I posted this in below zero chat but it also belongs here

[pure iron]

._.

[nocturne bison]

Did you just ping me to send that, at least turn off pings on replies, I was watching Star Trek Discovery

[molten tree]

...on purpose?

[nocturne bison]

That wasn’t even the first time I told the to turn off pings

[molten tree]

No, I meant Discovery :P

[cinder kestrel]

@nocturne bison I'm guessing it was to remind you to check the thing, although I don't know if you need to anymore.

[golden crescent]

In the purple vents next to the mercury II stern you can sometimes find vent guardians and thats not in the wiki

Juvenile that is

[nocturne bison]

I already did the save on dropbox that I had was before I got the snowfox, I need to go to my other pc to check

[willow vector]

Yes, the bot is working for all things Subnautica.

[cinder kestrel]

Nevermind, I forgot the thing.

[sudden dove]

!wiki settings wiki subnautica

[cinder kestrel]

You have to allow @willow vector to read and send messages in this channel first.

[sudden dove]

Oh duh

!wiki settings wiki subnautica

[cinder kestrel]

!wiki test

[sudden dove]

!wiki settings wiki subnautica

[willow vector]

You changed the default wiki for this server to: https://subnautica.fandom.com/
Use !wiki settings wiki <link> to change the default wiki.
Link to a MediaWiki site like https://<wiki>.fandom.com/

[sudden dove]

There we go.

[cinder kestrel]

There we go--hey, you already said that.

So if I do a bit of [[Peeper]] action, it'll link to the right wiki. (After this message, the bot did the right thing, but then I had the bot delete the message.)

Alright, we're good now.

[sudden dove]

Apologies for the lack of committed brain wrinkles, I'm multitasking right now 😅

[cinder kestrel]

Thanks for doing all that.

[sudden dove]

Not a problem at all, let me know if you guys need anything else.

[old vortex]

Is xeno still on of the wiki mods?

[agile spindle]

yes

Xenodrone is

[old vortex]

Ok

[remote crane]

why is the squidshark labelled as a leviathan class organism in the pda, but in the wiki it isnt classified as one?

[tight tendon]

XD

[remote crane]

confusion

[agile spindle]

because in the PDA it is under the Carnivores section

so we get to pretend the leviathan line is a mistake

[remote crane]

though i would say its large enough to qualify personally

[agile spindle]

nop

its the same size as an ampeel which is not considered a leviathan

[remote crane]

fair enough

personally, i feel as if it would have been a cool idea to have greater leviathans and lesser leviathans.

[radiant copper]

I want a mega squid shark leviathan

[tight tendon]

XD

I prefer the Abyssal leviathan

[fast quartz]

whats the abyssal leviathan?

[cinder kestrel]

https://www.google.com/search?q=subnautica+abyssal+leviathan sums it up fairly well.

[pure iron]

well I wanted to know if you checked

you said you would 3 weeks ago

[tight tendon]

Massive skull

||lost river||

[cinder kestrel]

"Abyssal Leviathan" is a made-up creature; the skeletons in the Lost River have different names (I think one of them is Gargantuan Leviathan? I'll have to check the wiki).

[tight tendon]

Ok then

Gargantuan leviathan

I just call it abyssal because that’s really the only place it would live

[verbal jolt]

why did the two wikis merge, the hell

this is so confusing now

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Leviathan_Class_Organisms has a below zero background, but the top says that the page is only about SN

and going to the link is a redlink

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Spikey_Trap this page doesn't even say which game its in, aside of the trivia at the bottom

that's bound to cause confusion

such an interesting merge

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Steam_Vent this page doesn't even say below zero once LOL

[ivory steppe]

It's a work in progress thing.

[verbal jolt]

i figured, but the merge just seems so unnecessary to me

unless Fandom forced it, which I wouldn't be surprised

they are basically two independent games with nothing but a story connection, and the same devs

[cinder kestrel]

There is a lot more they have in common than just that (although a lot if it is because the same company made both games).

[molten tree]

@verbal jolt A few things:

• Fandom didn't force the merge.
• Most series or franchises are represented by a single unified wiki.
• Google considers duplicated or almost-identical content to compete with each other or even seen as spamming content. Obviously the two wikis weren't actually fighting each other or spamming anything, but Google doesn't care, it wants to see a single source of truth.
• When Below Zero released, the view count for the main Subnautica wiki fell off a cliff, which doesn't make sense--the release of Below Zero obviously raised the Below Zero wiki's view count, but it should have also raised the main game's visibility as well. The fact that it didn't goes back to the earlier point, Google considered the two wikis to be fighting each other.
• Having the two wikis separated means that a lot of edits that happen on one wiki won't happen on the other. Managing users, especially with users that get blocked, is also difficult to coordinate.

Now, with the merge completed, that's not to say the unified Subnautica Wiki is done and we're not working on it. Far from that. There's a lot of work still to be done--one of the things I'm really looking forward to is remaking some of the wiki's templates and updating a couple parts of its design. It's a wiki, and wikis are never done improving. The merge, though, was definitely something that needed to happen and will facilitate a better system moving forward.

tl;dr Pardon the construction dust, we're doing our best

[verbal jolt]

fair, thanks

[radiant copper]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/fr/wiki/Léviathan_Fantôme
French wiki says 5000 English wiki says 8000 so which is it

[agile spindle]

Generally the non-english wikis are just translations

so that would mean someone changed it on the english wiki and the french wiki is outdated

[radiant copper]

It's 8k

[fierce cave]

The wiki page for the Pengling https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Pengling#In-Game says that it is the only non-food creature that can be placed in an Aquarium or Seatruck Aquarium Module, yet the Sea Monkey Baby can be placed in both

[balmy mural]

I know there was some work done with the wikis, merging and what not, idk if this is related to that or not but I’ve noticed the Subnautica Spawn IDs page is missing some entries. Like ion cubes, and the vehicle upgrade console, are no longer listed in their categories. Idk what else might be missing, whomever does a check of these might want to run a thorough check of the entire spawn ID page for Subnautica (I wouldn’t be that great at it, since I don’t use them a lot, I’d have to use BZ’s Spawn ID page for comparison and that only covers part of it lol). Anyway I’ll link the page I was looking at below this message

Spawn IDs (Subnautica) | Subnautica Wiki | Fandom

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Spawn_IDs_(Subnautica)

In keeping with what’s listed for the BZ page, ion cubes should be in the Raw Materials section, and the vehicle upgrade console should be in the Interior base pieces section

[viral spruce]

u know how ghost leviathans reside in the abyss area

do they even have a life span

cus like

didnt it say theycould grow to massive lengths

[empty silo]

Is it just me or does the wiki run really poorly?

[cinder kestrel]

How so?

[empty silo]

Lag while using the site

It also takes a while to load

[radiant copper]

Probably just your internet or whatever

[balmy mural]

Yeah I don’t have any issues with the wiki myself

[empty silo]

Maybe I need to look for new computers to frighten my laptop...

[viscid hinge]

The Director of Below Zero David Kalina confirmed there being a third game in the Subnautica franchise, correct? (After they are not busy supporting both of the current games) Only thing is I can't find where that was posted/said, does anyone have the link to the source so I can confirm it is true?

[viscid hinge]

I think in terms of multiplayer it should be more of an open world game. Sort of like Elder Scrolls Online, where as the other Elders Scrolls are only Singleplayer.

[sudden dove]

Multiplayer isn't confirmed.

This also isnt the channel for this discussion, didn't realize until after I uploaded the screenshot lol

[viscid hinge]

Which channel would be more open for this type of discussion?

[sudden dove]

#subnautica-chat

[agile spindle]

<@&85343211593166848> delete please ^

[balmy mural]

We’re working on it, bot is having issues please don’t click

[lethal marsh]

We’re working it

Some kind of yag issue happening

[fervent grove]

For future reference, click everything just incase it's legit

[plush cliff]

does https://subnautica.fandom.com/ load very slowly in every part of the world?

[cinder kestrel]

For me, it does take a couple of seconds for the page to start loading. Once it starts, it finishes loading almost immediately.

[shut relic]

Who is voicing Pda

[agile spindle]

I believe it is a Microsoft(?) AI voice but I am not sure of its name

[plush cliff]

SN1 PDA is IVONA amy. BZ PDA is amazon polly

[agile spindle]

^

[shut relic]

And i just watched subnautica icebearg video where they said noone knows who voices PDA

Bruh

[agile spindle]

Youtube is never a reliable source of information

[shut relic]

Is Reddit viable

[molten tree]

why would you ask

anyone can post anything to YouTube, to Reddit, etc.

the point is whether you can verify who the person is and whether they have any authority to say X or Y is the truth

[agile spindle]

the subnautica reddit is mainly memes
from what ive seen, people on there usually have outdated information

the wiki is the most accurate source of info

[vernal anvil]

hi

[pure iron]

Why does the wiki say that Subnautica Below Zero takes place one year after Subnautica?

[agile spindle]

an ingame pda says so i believe

[shut relic]

I mean how did you crash landed whithout exploding like submean or how its called

[pure iron]

no its that it takes place 2 years later

and not one year

[shut relic]

It doesnt change a thing

Obviusly it happends after frist game

[pure iron]

The wiki says Subnautica Below Zero takes place 1 year after Subnautica instead of 2 years

[shut relic]

How do you know it happend 2 years

[pure iron]

Steam store says it

[agile spindle]

an in game pda says 1 year

or it did last i checked

[pure iron]

"Dive into a freezing underwater adventure on an alien planet. Below Zero is set two years after the original Subnautica. Return to Planet 4546B to uncover the truth behind a deadly cover-up. Survive by building habitats, crafting tools, & diving deeper into the world of Subnautica."

[agile spindle]

ah it is two years i went back and looked

[pure iron]

ye

[agile spindle]

the steam page used to say 1 year but they changed it

[pure iron]

yeah that's what the guy that edited the page said

I think it used to say 2 years on the fandom but someone corrected it saying that the steam page said 1 year later

[agile spindle]

yes thats what i said

but we go by in game pdas

and since the steam page agrees anyway 2 years is correct

[pure iron]

btw should lore from games in the same universe be added to the timeline?

@agile spindle

[agile spindle]

no

just games in the subnautica series

but small bits of the lore can be added as trivia

like the bit we have about kharaa

[pure iron]

also do you know when the PDA message about the snowfox derby of 2342 was added? I looked for quite some time and haven't found it anywhere, I looked in the current game and some past versions...

it's quoted a few times

[agile spindle]

its possible it wasnt added

there are a lot of PDA entries we datamined that never got in physically

[pure iron]

I mean it says you can get it when you build a snowfox

[agile spindle]

i dont see anything about a derby in the databank

where do you see it

[pure iron]

(it's in dialogue)

[agile spindle]

the below zero wiki is deprecated

use the subnautica wiki

i cant attest to any information on the BZ wiki

[pure iron]

but even on Wikipedia this date is referenced

"Subnautica takes place in the mid to late 24th century"

[agile spindle]

if that voice line has been removed then that information would not be considered canon and should be removed

[pure iron]

so it should be removed

I mean there's no recording of it anywhere

it's not in the game anymore

no one I've heard of has heard it

[agile spindle]

based on the information you are giving me now yes

but

that line is still on the dialogue page

so make sure it is definitely not in game before you remove the trivia

[pure iron]

so normally if I go rn into subnautica below zero, start up a new world, and build a snowfox I should get that dialogue right?

if we believe what it says

[agile spindle]

that would make sense

although some dialogue might have hidden requirements like story progression

[pure iron]

do you think going in creative mode will disable triggering it?

Ok

[agile spindle]

it might

[pure iron]

Welp I'm going to go full survival mode and get this snowfox

[pure iron]

you don't think spawning the resources necessary will stop it from triggering right?

._.

[agile spindle]

no

receiving stuff and mining it is essentially the same

[pure iron]

ah ok nice

[pure iron]

yep just built a snowfox

I received no message

from the pda

[agile spindle]

alrighty

[pure iron]

so I can now remove all references to it?

[agile spindle]

yep

[pure iron]

Oky

[agile spindle]

oh for dialogue ill move it to a deleted section or something

so dont touch that one

[pure iron]

and I can't edit the snowfox page

._.

[agile spindle]

you need a fandom account

[pure iron]

I might not be logged in

no I am

[pure iron]

I'm on my account

[agile spindle]

you're on the wrong wiki

like i said the BZ Wiki is deprecated

[pure iron]

Ooh

my bad then

makes sense

there we go

it's gone

[agile spindle]

very cool

[pure iron]

time to update wikipedia now

[agile spindle]

i mean 23-24 century is probably still accurate

[pure iron]

the most accurate date would be the 31st century

due to that being when NS2 takes place

[agile spindle]

that wouldnt make sense at all

kharaa completely mutated by then

in subnautica they were just discovering it

[pure iron]

I mean the date is given in ns2

[pure iron]

the name Frontiersmen appears in Subnautica

the Frontiersmen were created to combat the Kharaa

[agile spindle]

source?

for both of those

[pure iron]

the menu onboard the aurora

and the ns2 wiki

[agile spindle]

direct links if you can

[pure iron]

one sec

so this is the menu on the Aurora

on the right we can see that a Frontiersmen discount is available

and quote from the ns2 wiki

https://naturalselection.fandom.com/wiki/Frontiersmen

"The TSF volunteered to mount a response to the Kharaa – effectively creating a new army, with a new mandate. The resolution passed, and the new force was called the Frontiersmen"

[agile spindle]

unfortunately that menu cant be considered hard lore

because its most likely either an easter egg or just the same word used in both contexts

e.g. people who are on the front lines

as for the easter egg its much like the subnautica mug

[pure iron]

I guess

but SnapBLU also exists in NS2

the cafeteria company

[agile spindle]

it doesnt make sense that they would have frontiersman on the aurora if frontiersman were created to fight kharaa

because they didnt know about kharaa till ryley returned from 4546b

[pure iron]

"The Frontiersmen have clearance to travel anywhere and board any craft"

also on the NS2 wiki page

[agile spindle]

yes

but again

they couldnt have been created to fight something that wasnt discovered yet

the menu is just a reference

as is snapblu

[pure iron]

wait one sec there's one more thing

I gotta find it

[pure iron]

according to NS2, the name Kharaa comes from its first encounter on a mongolian mining facility. While getting attacked, they yelled "Kharaa" (an insult in mongolian). Them screaming was heard through a radio and the name was given to the bacterium

[agile spindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

thats why we dont have lore for both games on one wiki

[pure iron]

do you think it'd be possible that the kharaa was discovered in ns2 first, then subnautica takes place, then the hole battle between the kharaa and the Frontiersmen take place?

It's said the battle between the Kharaa and the Frontiersmen lasted over 50 years

[agile spindle]

a developer said that kharaa in ns2 was a mutated version of the one from sn

[pure iron]

yep

[agile spindle]

so, no

[pure iron]

but the kharaa in subnautica doesn't originate from 4546B

the precursors came to 4546B to find a cure

[pure iron]

the Kharaa may be a mutation of the Kharaa in subnautica but that doesn't mean it's mutation wasn't discovered first

[agile spindle]

theres not really any evidence that ns2 took place first

[pure iron]

no technically NS takes place after Subnautica

but the kharaa mutation was discovered before Subnautica

[agile spindle]

their connection is more of a dev headcanon than a solid timeline

the games were written by different people and any reference to each other is done for fun

contradictions cant be explained because they didnt coordinate an effort to have consistent lore

[pure iron]

I guess... but NS2 has been developing it's lore recently

[agile spindle]

there are two different teams working on the games

[pure iron]

but they are confirmed to be in the same universe

as in not only easter eggs

[agile spindle]

yes but the connection is very thin

[pure iron]

other then Alterra

and the TSF

those connect them both fairly well

and the Mongolian Independant States, the Charter, the Expansion

[agile spindle]

from the perspective of putting NS2 information on the wiki in a comprehensive capacity it would be awkward

not only because of contradictions and limited information but also because subnautica users havent all played ns2

[pure iron]

I mean it doesn't need to be added

I'm just trying to make a complete timeline

[agile spindle]

well i dont know very much about ns2

but im sure people in the ns2 discord or in #below-zero-chat would love to theorize

[pure iron]

ye I've done that a lot already, I just wanted to spread the fact that NS2 and Subnautica is more connected then some people might have thought

ANYWAys imma have to go now

see ya

[ivory steppe]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica needs fixing.

[agile spindle]

what about it needs fixing

[ivory steppe]

SlyCooper fixed it.

[boreal basalt]

Hello wiki gods. When you press expand in "Uses in Crafting" on this page it says "(no target detected)" instead of showing all of the blueprints that Kyanite is used in.
https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Kyanite_(Below_Zero)

[agile spindle]

BZ wiki is no longer in development, everything on it has been moved to https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica_Wiki

on which is the same issue on that page. lol

thanks for the heads up

[pure iron]

should it be added in the Easter Eggs page on the Wiki?

[agile spindle]

it could be put there

[spiral owl]

Sorry man I’m don’t speak English

[high cloak]

Does anyone remember ||the dialogue from alan for the tourloques? Did they cut it from the game or is mine glitchy?||

[cunning lark]

i noticed that on the Below zero wiki, some of the recipes are not available, only saying (No Target Detected) Ex: Crafting recipes for Silicone Rubber

[nocturne bison]

Sounds like template issues to me

[agile spindle]

it do be

[old fog]

guys is it just me or why does the wiki make firefox use a crap ton of ram

[lethal bane]

because if your ram isn't being eaten while using an internet browser, your doing it wrong

[lusty hearth]

yikes a scam

[molten tree]

<@&85343211593166848> ^

[marble dome]

Does anyone knows who's voice behind the cyclops

[shut relic]

Uhh why did you Pinged mods

[molten tree]

There was a scam bot, the mods took care of it after the ping

[old fog]

yeah a single wiki page taking over 60% cpu while loading and eating up 5gb of ram ain't right

[molten tree]

There's so, so, so many reasons why this could be the case, but out of curiosity, what page are you referring to?

[old fog]

Any page except disambiguation ones will spike the CPU usage to over 60%, memory usage varies. Only happens in Firefox, no memory or CPU issues whatsoever in chrome, ironically

[molten tree]

I use Firefox myself, I don't get anything like that

[old fog]

Maybe it's one of my add-ons for blocking ads etc?

[molten tree]

It could certainly be some kind of extension. It wouldn't be adblock, I have one of those as well as Firefox's built-in privacy protection tool

[old fog]

Hmm

Maybe I'll try disabling my extensions one by one later and try to find the culprit

[molten tree]

There's an easier way, check in a private window, extensions are disabled by default there

[old fog]

I'm browsing the wiki on incognito and extensions enabled

Anyway I'll report back later, not at home atm

[old fog]

@molten tree it was my dark reader extension

this one to be exact

[lethal bane]

Chrome

[molten tree]

Oh, damn. I use that on my phone.... good to know it causes some issues on Fandom wikis. We have dark theme compatibility on all Fandom wikis now, so you can set an exception in Dark Reader for anything on fandom.com

[thorny jetty]

does it state in the wiki anywhere that the squre root of pie is 1.772453851

[cinder kestrel]

My first guess is no. Why do you ask?

[thorny jetty]

interesting

[molten tree]

Why would it need to?

[radiant copper]

Lol

[cursive vigil]

hola

mi amigo

i am on the subnautica wiki

as

anuraagrjetty15

[rancid yarrow]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Crash_Zone needs fixing, it should say ten Reaper Leviathans, not eleven

[onyx river]

There are 11 leviathans there

[old fog]

fyi, update history pages for both games probably needs to be updated

[iron bobcat]

Bruh thought there were only 3 reapers

At crash zone

[balmy mural]

@onyx river just letting you know, no one ever addressed this issue

#📚wiki-discussion message

I know you’ll make sure it’s taken care of

I refreshed both Subnautica and BZ spawn ID pages and some stuff (I mentioned) is still missing from Subnautica Spawn IDs

[onyx river]

I fixed the ones you specified, if I have time later I can go through it to see if anything's missing

[balmy mural]

Tysm

[cinder kestrel]

[[User:NUGGETSTHATARENTBURNT]] seems like spam.

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User:NUGGETSTHATARENTBURNT

[cinder kestrel]

Same with [[User blog:NUGGETSTHATARENTBURNT/a]].

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:NUGGETSTHATARENTBURNT/a

[cinder kestrel]

But I can't remember the specifics on what we allow and don't allow on user pages and user blogs.

[old fog]

hi, cave sulfur in sn is listed with the chemical composition of SO4Tr, what element is Tr?

[cinder kestrel]

https://www.google.com/search?q=scientific+element+tr

[old fog]

there is no known element with symbol Tr

Thulium is Tm not Tr

[rancid yarrow]

there are 10
10 in the Crash Zone + 8 in the Dunes + 7 in the Mountains = the 25 Reaper total for the whole map

[old fog]

game literally unplayable pls fix 😛

[sudden dove]

Lol it'll be fixed soon in experimental.

[onyx river]

<@&85343211593166848>

[fervent grove]

I am mod. I do mod things

Do you need me to upgrade your copy of Minecraft to a Minecraft premium for only £499.99?

[cinder kestrel]

I clicked the second link and signed in--with a brand new account that contained only Rickrolls.