📚wiki-discussion

[jade solstice]

we can add it in when it is no problem

[amber minnow]

he has one, he's mentioned in-game iirc

[summer kindle]

because there are additional things that have happened to Ryley since SN1

[jade solstice]

link for it is set upo on SN2 lol on Alterras page

i did that earlier

page just inst created yet

[summer kindle]

Yeah I was intending to create a page for him like

A month ago

But I never got around to it

[agile spindle]

he gets searched a lot

[summer kindle]

Ok so Robin then

And Al-An

[agile spindle]

robin is also mentioned ;p

[summer kindle]

Robin is?

I knew Sam was I didn’t know Robin was

[agile spindle]

oh yea that might be sam actually

[jade solstice]

theres a couple characters we can cross link maybe if there likie no info aside from a name once but well focuse on that later when the wikis running good

[summer kindle]

On the SN2 architect and Kharaa page for example we can link to Al-An’s BZ wiki page

[tight harness]

it should support 2 destination pages actually, we just need logos

[jade solstice]

on which one

[summer kindle]

SN2

[jade solstice]

SN2 doesnt have one

Axum are a new species

Architects are mentioned 1 time for their language

[summer kindle]

I feel we are misunderstanding each other here

[amber minnow]

that would be a "see also" kinda situation

[vague marten]

yea could do them separately like that, tho i think the js might need to be changed since it's using interwiki links and there isn't bz:, just sn1:

[jade solstice]

If someone isn mentioned 1 time without any real info added we can cross link like with Sam but ddepends on how much lore the new game give

[summer kindle]

Kharaa then!
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Kharaa_Bacterium

[jade solstice]

but they need to be mentioned to be linked

[tight harness]

you can override the page it links to manually

actually we might be able to make a jank mostly working bz interwiki that does $1 (Below Zero) idk if interwikis work like that

[late island]

@true mason Real nice map there

What was your process for making it? For future use and iteration purposes

[jade solstice]

anyways the day we split SN1 and BZ to rid of the mess is the day i go swim into a reaper ...just thinking of me trying to sort through faction pages to remove BZ infro from SN1

[vague marten]

yea idk if i've ever seen anything after the $1 in interwiki

[tight harness]

truly innovating in the space

[true mason]

To create the map or gather data ?

[late island]

both I think

[vague marten]

it'd probably be good to try to do them separate like that too, so when they are split, then just changing the interwiki target would update all of them

[true mason]

Extracted the data directly from the game files — biome zones, WorldPartition actor positions, EA boundary. Then generated the map as an SVG via a Python script that maps UE5 coordinates (in cm) to the canvas, with biome regions as an overlay and Leviathan icons. The EA boundary comes from an in-game trace using a Lua mod that logged my position every 100ms while I ran along the edge.

[jade solstice]

the Alterra page on teh SN1 wiki allready has only SN1 info for employees and equipment, the rest i have saved up for when we split to add

[jade solstice]

that one allready borders for me rn lol with how much non SN2 info it has but hm

[late island]

I see I see...

I'll need to see if I can harness these methods for the future

(and to rename stuff there because a lot of the biome names are off, to no fault of your own of course, messing with internal names can be complicated)

[tight harness]

a userpage on the wiki describing processes like that would be really nice so other people can iterate on it

[true mason]

I also run a web server version to get an interactive map and track special elements to document on the wiki, with my live position. The workflow goes:
SN2 → Mods → Python server → live map

[summer kindle]

How do you go about such a thing otherwise though? Because otherwise it’s like we have exclusive info about Kharaa that is split between SN, BZ SN2 and even the Natural Selection 2 wiki

[jade solstice]

Game given info only + the external linking at the top

Avoids spoilers for the other games

[summer kindle]

Frankly that just sounds awful if someone just wants to get the complete picture for Kharaa

[jade solstice]

well figure smth out, we should wait with it anyways until we have the external linking template on SN2

[agile spindle]

just pitching: we could update wikis only with information available at the time of last release? so SN1 pages only get SN1 lore, BZ gets SN + BZ, and SN2 gets all known lore?

[summer kindle]

Yeah that is what we have currently broadly

[agile spindle]

well great

[jade solstice]

again that would be a sif we split them all together again

it would be such a mess of info

[summer kindle]

Idk seems the opposite to me

[amber minnow]

yes i just tried to make a little link here without a template but i think it's better to just wait to add this

[agile spindle]

if you read the wiki like someone playing in chronological order, they will be able to avoid spoilers from future games

maybe that's wishful thinking but

[summer kindle]

I don’t really want to make the SN2 wiki trying to avoid spoilers for SN1

[amber minnow]

i think it's gonna end up like that 80 or 90% of the time anyway

[agile spindle]

yea thatd be super lame to work around

[vague marten]

[[sn1:Alterra Corporation#Citizens / Employees|this is a link]]

[jade solstice]

still would say the external linking at the top would be best
i mean it would still be listed in order just not cluttered ontoo the same page

[amber minnow]

oh sick

[jade solstice]

im currently editing that page btw

[amber minnow]

oh

how big is your edit? i'll wait until you're done

[vague marten]

...is visual editor interwiki-link-aware? seems like it probably just adds it as an external link

[amber minnow]

no clue, i almost never use it

[vague marten]

i guess if you know the interwiki prefix you can do it as an internal, but it doesn't autocorrect external links to interwiki prefixes

[summer kindle]

is there a way to just. Not have visual editor.

[amber minnow]

we need it for casual editors

[vague marten]

in your own account prefereces you can disable the buttons for visual editor

[summer kindle]

yeah I’ve done that

[jade solstice]

from experi

ok how about we work together and link the older games info at the top of sections with a link saying "for SN1 see llink" or smth- it would be inlcuded in the page and wouldnt be in the middle of the emplpyee list

[summer kindle]

Not a priority at at the moment

We still have so many pages missing basic info

[sleek thistle]

I'm a bit behind, do you have the ability to make a PNG map of the underlying environment? Like this kinda thing

[summer kindle]

The fact that we have a map now should help a lot with that though

[jade solstice]

lets talk about it once we split the other 2 gamnes or smth lol not inbetween with 2 game son 1 wiki rn

[sleek thistle]

I would be happy to get some interactive map stuff up on the wiki if we have an image

[true mason]

I think I know how to spend my evening

[jade solstice]

anyways if you do have suggestions for faction pages just send em to me and ill look over em

they are my babies i have soooo much faction info in google sheets saved up

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CSLlEEYrPVH6kFdLqET0odVc8Vu2Ax2AdE0peMXiopY/edit?gid=1518028216#gid=1518028216

if anyone needs infoo to edit in

[amber minnow]

awesome

[late island]

there might be a function in game for that if you're willing to try and mod it into useability

[late island]

Where'd this map come from? The IGN site?

[jade solstice]

some game si did that one have over 10 k lines

noticed we moved the PDA Page to Player? still think we should have a page for the PDA item , specialy since NS2 has lore on our worlds 21st century PDAs as its backstory

[late island]

could also go on a specific History page if we want that

[jade solstice]

we have someone doing an external timeline page

and ill do game specific btimelines maybe some times

[amber minnow]

i wanna know more about how edits are copied/transferred from the fandom wiki. is it an automatic process? is there a name i can look up?

[jade solstice]

most stuff is allready moved in the split

[vague marten]

https://github.com/weirdgloop/mediawiki-tools-grabbers

[tight harness]

edits stopped being copied over at public wiki launch

[jade solstice]

its more like us working on removing false info that got moved as well

[amber minnow]

wait when was the launch?

[vague marten]

the 11th

[amber minnow]

OH

[jade solstice]

id not moved anything over that you dont trust as they now have all 3 game sin the same wiki

[vague marten]

everything before, including all edit history, page deletions, files, etc. are all copied over - anything done on fandom after the 11th won't be

[amber minnow]

i am so stupid. i checked the main page's edit history to check the official wiki's age and assumed it was 12 years old

that's why this all was so confusing

[tight harness]

it basically is, the official wiki is all of the content from fandom moved to a new domain

and all the editors are here now

[vague marten]

if you're checking edit history, look for cook's "bot rebase" change - that's the timestamp for when it was moved

[amber minnow]

ok yeah thank you

[zenith drum]

i really hope there is something cool to this one, imma go to one of the collector leviathans with camouflage and see if I can trigger it by using this

[jade solstice]

i added the known sections of the Cicada
and found out how the colonists would land

the ship wasnt gonna land itself instead it sends down Lander Modules

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Cicada

[tight harness]

that image goes hard

[zenith drum]

true that

camouflage biomod lowkey crazy the fauna cant detect you even if they touch you

only problem with that is most of the time when they touch you they make you move too..

[dim ether]

my game crashed and my save is just gone, does anyone know how to fix?

[zenith drum]

btw how are large ore deposits called in sn2 officially?

[tight harness]

you should try asking in #subnautica-2-chat , I don't think the wiki has any guide on this (but it could!)

[dim ether]

i did

no one answered

[tight harness]

try discord search, I know some people have had the same issue but don't know if theres a resolution

[sleek thistle]

this was one of our staff (not in this chat) that is very familiar with decompiling UE stuff lmao

[sleek thistle]

btw please feel free to ping me if you get anywhere with this, i might miss it otherwise

[zenith drum]

#📁wiki-changes message

this guy bro

he does not realize the collector leviathan has the ability to do 40 damage with one hit too..

[jade solstice]

welcome center is a litte weird

its on the planet placed like a lander module but was connected to Bay 3 according to the terminal which was a ship compartment

oh and the lifepod we use in game is Lifepod 73 (as its launched from Lifepod Bay 73)

or in full Rosette V Digital Lifepod 73

[primal geode]

Wait can you really find the collector on outer bounds what?

[agile spindle]

we havent really nailed down all the biomes yet

as far as im aware there's one over the trench and one over the metal farms

[primal geode]

That's what I thought too

[zenith drum]

this wiki supports uploading .mp4 files right..?

[drifting cave]

you can't

they only spawn in the spare plains and karakorum metal farms

[primal geode]

So the page is edited incorrectly

[zenith drum]

maybe, maybe not

[primal geode]

The collector page lists outer bounds for the spawn biome

I can fix that soon enough

[drifting cave]

someone likely just lead it out of bounds through aggression and assumed it spawns there

[primal owl]

this is a general question but i havent gotten an answer in #subnautica-2-chat
Where do i find lead?

[zenith drum]

leadzone is a good point to start as there are some lead ores that arent large deposits too

[tight harness]

I think it should? If they are < 20 mb

[tight harness]

[[sn2:lead]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/lead

[primal owl]

i have no idea where that is
im currently sorta progression locked bc i assume i need more adaptations but i need the transmitter to break the things
so

[primal geode]

I know how bad that place is for getting answers but this isn't the page for questions, and also no spoiler marks are required
However, in the same breath, same difference if I say it or nah
There's a ton in the leadzone, under the cicada "moonpool" wreck or whatever it was

[zenith drum]

woah that's a command?

[[sn2:heat_tolerance]]

[tight harness]

😭 its limited to roles I guess

[primal geode]

What's the syntax?
Is it case sensitive?

[zenith drum]

welp

[finite rock]

is it? Or is it bc of casing

[agile spindle]

[[sn2:Heat Tolerance]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Heat_Tolerance

[finite rock]

yeah the casing situation is sort of unfortunate

[primal geode]

[[sn2:lead]]

So, roles

[tight harness]

its only wiki keeper for some reason

[zenith drum]

welp

[agile spindle]

[[sn2:lead]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/lead

[agile spindle]

yeaaa

[primal geode]

LISTEN that was a test 😭 😭
The heat tolerance ones had different casing, so I copied the lead one exactly to make sure

[primal owl]

believe me i didnt wanna ask here but i asked thrice there and no answer so like
Plus i was under the assumption the wiki wouldnt have anything much considering yk
game came out 2 days ago

[primal geode]

We do try to prioritize things that get asked most

Lead and silver for one....

[zenith drum]

leadzone in question

silver is just the N... something jelly plateus

necrolei i think

[primal owl]

ah gotcha

[vague marten]

yea - we made a ton of lowercase redirects on vsw specifically so wiki-bot links work... unfortunate it doesn't find the right uppercase page on its own like gloop bot does

[finite rock]

it also means that people end up making duplicated pages more often

[summer kindle]

Yeah that was me, a long while before release

When this was all we had to go on

[primal geode]

I swear I just looked at it yesterday while adding the karakorum farms and it just said sparse plains

Wait no that was the lifeform page

[vague marten]

this is a bit of mess since it just lists all pages regardless of if they'd actually need the lowercase version created but it's a decent dpl that can be copied if needed https://vampire.survivors.wiki/w/User:Californ1a/Maintenance/Redirects

[finite rock]

oh nice, yeah that would probably work

does anyone know enough about blackboxes to make even just a basic page? Noticing that pop up in search digest and afaik we dont have a page for them

[primal geode]

Aren't the speeds listed slightly different on the wiki or am I misremembering?

[agile spindle]

thats what i was lookin at doing next

itll be a little incomplete but i can get the page up with some coordinates

[primal geode]

These might be acceleration, I'm checking with monor

[tardy sequoia]

I made a new save today with that exact purpose lmao
went around to collect most of the PDA entries on the missing colonists but I'm still missing a few

[primal geode]

Literally why don't I

@sage surge did you start the timer as you begun moving, or at a predesignated point?

[sage surge]

https://youtu.be/xP0RLNlt9uo?is=HvssPLW4o-tJFDpV

All start at the same time , tadpole reaches destination at 32 seconds and hauler at 34

[primal geode]

Oh well that's useful

[sage surge]

Also video is not mine not to take credit

I just did the math

[primal geode]

Well, you still shared it, appreciate it

I somehow did not think to check youtube or like do anything like this

[sage surge]

I wish I could contribute but I unfortunately don't own the game as I am a playstation gamer

[finite rock]

yeah if you can get something up, https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Special:SearchDigest has a few things that are clearly trying to find blackbox

[sage surge]

I may still buy it on steam just so I have it when I get a PC

Which I am saving for

[agile spindle]

making the page rn

[primal geode]

I've been wanting to start a new singleplayer
I'd be happy to track little things like blackbox names and coordinates
Just tell me what to look out for

Actually kinda tempted to write down everything but man I would forget the second to last thing I do constantly

[finite rock]

i think the main thing would be updating pages with more info about general locations/info, rather than specific coords

[sage surge]

Y'all should ad the speed numbers to the tadpole entries while y'all are at it

[agile spindle]

different page!

[finite rock]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Gold for example only has one spot. We also dont have a picture of the node (if it's something you have to break down)

[primal geode]

There is a ton of gold in the hot area
Graveyard?

I'm not sure there are others

[drifting cave]

"hot area"

[drifting cave]

i think i may have seen some spawns in the axum region

not too sure though

[tardy sequoia]

there’s gold there as well, some in the lava cavern below the alien ruins and one more spot with large nodes close to the metal farm

[summer kindle]

SN2 protagonists needing wakemakers to even not even reach Ryley’s base swimming speed, pathetic

the real reason for Ryley’s survival was that he’s a genetic freak

[finite rock]

oh nice, do you want to throw those locations on the page too? Even just a general list like that is helpful, but probably good to call out if the graveyard has significantly more than the others

[primal geode]

he doesn't need genetic adaptions, the genetic adaptions need him

[tardy sequoia]

I‘d like to do that, yeah, but I currently don’t have the ability to get screenshots for general location and nodes since I‘m away, so it would take a couple hours until I can properly do that

[finite rock]

no need for screenshots tbh

theyre nice to have but not a big deal

[sage surge]

What about calling it thermal zone

[drifting cave]

it already has a name

it's called "Graveyard"

[sage surge]

The hot zone?

[drifting cave]

yeah

[sage surge]

...why is it called a graveyard

[drifting cave]

ngl not no clue why that's the name

[agile spindle]

thats the name that was used in promotional art

[drifting cave]

the "Diag Map" command calls it "Live Spires"

[primal geode]

did we ever get an entire, original map

I saw that one screenshot of the shallows area or whatever the whole region is

[sage surge]

Probably because of the dead coral crabs

[primal geode]

isn't this from map genie tho? I thougth we couldn't use that

[sage surge]

Why

[primal geode]

I mean for personal purposes it's ofc entirely fine

but for the wiki

copyright or something?

[tight harness]

we can't put it on the wiki cause copyright

[sage surge]

I thought it was just a screenshot from the game or sum

Makes sense

[tight harness]

it might be uncopyrightable idk, but better safe than sorry

[sage surge]

Where is this from

[drifting cave]

screenshot i took using commands

[tight harness]

can you zoom out more on that map view?

[drifting cave]

sadly not

although i will take a look through the files to find the image this command pulls from

[tight harness]

I think its rendered

[sage surge]

We should be using these names they are much better and probably official

It's like how the bulb zone is called kooshzone internally

[leaden plinth]

How are crafting recipes gonna be formatted? On the SN1 wiki, it goes

Usage in Crafting (heading)
<machine its made in> (sh1)
Template:Recipe

But on some pages I've seen the name of the item written before the Template:Recipe on SN2 wiki

Case in point

[finite rock]

funny enough i am literally working on something now related to recipes

[vague marten]

oh, so was i lol https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Module:Sandbox/User:Californ1a

[finite rock]

I'm trying to convert the image only version into a text version with images (imagine the bubbles to the left of the item name)

[finite rock]

ive just been playing around w raw html as of like 10 minutes ago so nothing serious. Youve clearly done a lot more here

[vague marten]

i'm just using the current img-only one as a base, but yea doing it in a module should just let us change the formatting to a table easily enough later either way

[leaden plinth]

Basically, should I leave the item names preceding the recipe be, or leave it out for parity with SN1 wiki?

[vague marten]

i think it's mostly done as the img one because it's shown like that ingame?

[finite rock]

i would just leave the name for now. It's probably helpful for people bc the images are not clear visually unless you know what the thing you want looks like

yeah, ive seen a number of people ask for it to be text as well on reddit

it's kinda hard to use if you dont know what everything looks like

the first time i saw them i thought it was like, the entire crafting tree

[vague marten]

the text for the recipe is currently in the infobox, but that is kinda messy having both

[finite rock]

yeah, but the recipes using a given item will not appear in the infobox. Which is a bit of a different template than recipe but same family of stuff

[tight harness]

having it in 2 places is really bad

[leaden plinth]

Also, how do we categorise drops? Or what do we even call the different resoruce nodes? There's the single ones, the medium sized ones, and the ones that need a sonic resonator

Do drops go in Obtaining, or in the infobox, or somewhere else?

[vague marten]

currently it's using the same template, but i was planning on splitting that off to a different template, query from bucket instead of a manual list

[finite rock]

i think youll almost always want something outside the infobox. It looks like the infobox param is usually very short and doesnt give enough for readers to know where it actually comes from

[drifting cave]

not sure it would be of much help as the other half is unfinished anyway

[finite rock]

sort of hard to tell but based on https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Fibrous_Pulp

[primal geode]

should the EVA suit or Unknown blackboxes be included?
I know they are impossible to miss, but for consistency's sake?

coordinates anyway are
EVA suit -342526, 447519, -58742
Unknown -339319, 446644, -58243

[leaden plinth]

What do we call the seperate resource nodes? The singular ones, the medium ones that drop 2-3, and the big ones that need a resonator?

Just nodes? Small medium and large?

[primal geode]

I think small, medium and large will do

I'll take responsibility and, hell, I can manually go change them later, if nothing else

[finite rock]

do we know anything about bloom nodes? Ive seen this kind of question come up a lot #subnautica-2-chat message

and our page doesnt have any info about locations. Are there only a few of them?

[agile spindle]

bloom has a nice thorough explanation of the mechanics https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Bloom

we dont have locations yet

[finite rock]

okay, but really what theyre looking for then is the bloom canker locations?

[agile spindle]

no theyre looking for bloom nodes and angel combs mostly

[finite rock]

since it sounds like you have to clear those out, and finding the bloom node is just to figure out where the cankers are?

[agile spindle]

cankers are always close to the node

[finite rock]

gotcha

[leaden plinth]

For the 3rd and 4th adaptations, the adapatation pages have the locations of the bloom nodes

[agile spindle]

keeping a list of angel combs and their corresponding bloom nodes with location/depth/coordinates on the Bloom page would be really helpful i think

[primal geode]

you can throw lucifer rotsacs
personally, I am delighted by this
is it more "trivia" or where?

[finite rock]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Medical_Gel_Sac
is this "gel sack" or "gel sac"? Noticing some inconsistent naming on the wiki that's causing issues in recipes

[primal geode]

medical gel sac

in game

I noticed that too and checked it

one second I'll go find one

also Idk if anyone confirmed it, asked, or doubted it but the lifepod spawns in the same place every time

[primal geode]

I so want to say "The player is able to throw the Lucifer Rotsac like a snowball. However, it is important to remember that it is a live creature, and doing so is rather mean."
but I won't

should the sn2 wiki link to the sn1 wiki on the main page, just like the sn1 wiki links to the sn2 one

just another little consistency thing and ever so slight convenience

[leaden plinth]

The Recipe template just broke I think lol

[vague marten]

yea i'm messing with stuff, gimme a sec

it should still display correctly though - if you see an error somewhere, lmk - i don't see anything on [[Category:Pages with script errors]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Category:Pages_with_script_errors?action=edit&redlink=1

[jade solstice]

@agile spindle theres 2 blackboxes in the games jntro

both unknown people

one drowned, one died from Barotrauma when his EVA Suit was set up for 1 bar of pressure and the surrounding waters hit him with 60

[agile spindle]

thanks for the heads up, will add them after i go through all the ones i know of

[jade solstice]

oh and the Barotrauma one os rn the only Colonist with a Corpse

as his EVA Suit hangs out of the EVA Suit Prep area of Sleep Bay 3 in the kntro

still connected to the air system

i do wonder where on the map the spawn area is

[agile spindle]

its in the big hole

[jade solstice]

the... hole?

[agile spindle]

yea

the really big hole

[jade solstice]

what hole lol

[primal geode]

the humongous sinkhole hole

[agile spindle]

"Deep Start" in this image

[primal geode]

behind the welcome center

[jade solstice]

lol theres smth down there

i went down but found nothing and couldnt see so i moved on

tell me about everything down there

anuthing important?

[finite rock]

anyone want to start converting some item pages to use Infobox Item? I have a list here https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/User:Andmcadams#Items_missing_Infobox_Item

most of them just seem to have a thumbnail image on the right instead of an infobox

[primal geode]

I'll start
I'll go from alphabetical bottom up, so if someone else starts they can start from A

[jade solstice]

gonna sleep

did a quick edit on a not logged in device cuz i dont wanna start my pc rn

[primal geode]

SOPHIE: In pursuit of Nahema
and tadpole strike upgrade
-214527, 444029, -19494
Idk if this was listed, but I just found it by accident, looking of ra nother tihng

[vague marten]

@finite rock you can mess with [[sn2:Module:Recipe]] now if you want to convert it into a table/add text names, i'm done for now - get_recipes() splits them by machine with a section header for each machine like it was on most pages, but i didn't add the text name for the result since some of them are pretty long ([[sn2:Titanium]])

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Module:Recipe
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Titanium

[finite rock]

im probably not going to have time today but if you want to take a crack at a design i think its a win. I think just something tabular with images and text for the recipes would be a good start

basically what i was going for but with time to craft and cleaned up substantially

[knotty nimbus]

I’m thinking this page might’ve gotten griefed https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Biomes

[primal geode]

possible

[sleek thistle]

reverted + banned

[vague marten]

i'm considering porting over the dependencylist and documentation modules... but from experience doing that on vsw, it takes a while to convert all the existing docs

[tight harness]

good news I don't think SN2 wiki has any docs 🙃

[vague marten]

yea that's probably true

[knotty nimbus]

There is another https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Lifeforms

[finite rock]

got it

ty for raising

[primal geode]

seemingly the template adds the "base modules" part automatically for everything

and I don't think stuff like the work light or world tree relic are base modules

[finite rock]

let me see what that is, one sec

[agile spindle]

world tree relic needs to be deleted actually

[primal geode]

what about "radio"?

[agile spindle]

that one too

[finite rock]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Work_Light?diff=prev&oldid=3565
that's because you're using infobox base. I think you want Infobox Item

[primal geode]

I am??

I swear I just copied the one from your user page

but that one is definitely the item one

the hell did I do here

although, does the item template work for most of these

there is the crab feces, first aid kit, work light (which is crafted with the habitat builder anyway), and coral shavings

I think everything else is a base module

[finite rock]

That list is anything with Category:Items that is not using Infobox Item

so if there's stuff in there that should not have Category:Items, removing that will remove them from the list

[primal geode]

something like a spotlight definitely isn't an item
should I just go back and remove that one then?

and use the base template for base modules?
(I feel like this should be obvious but idk)

[finite rock]

yeah, youd just want to remove the [[Category:Items]] from the page if it isnt an item

[finite rock]

i think this is the case, but I haven't looked at any base related stuff

[leaden plinth]

Potential griefer https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Special:Contributions/~2026-LerkOceanCerulean1633

I reverted their edit

What seperates Infobox Item from Infobox Base?

[finite rock]

infobox item is meant for inventory items afaik

[leaden plinth]

Okay got it

[primal geode]

last question, what about the work light, specifically
it's a weird gray area kinda
made with the habitat builder but not exactly an item

oh well then it's not an item if item means inventory

do we have a category for carryables?

[leaden plinth]

That means a lot of the pages on the Items missing Infobox Item section are there for no reason

Posters, furniture, jars, lamps, so on

[primal geode]

yeah, but I got them I think

[late island]

What mod did you use to enable this? I'll be eternally grateful if you can give the details on this

[primal geode]

OR base modules actually, if I want to replace the item one with a base one

[tight harness]

this feels to me like someone not realizing how wikis work. I wouldn't ban them just for this one, could turn into a valuable editor

[agile spindle]

carryables are considered base modules, theyre in the habitat builder

[primal geode]

not exactly related, but I took outer bounds of the collector page

[leaden plinth]

Yeah I haven't seen them there at all

I've only seen two: the one above the Tar Cascades and the one above the Metal Farms

[finite rock]

yeah then we just want to remove [[Category:Items]] from those pages. In theory we can remove it from any item page since Infobox Item adds the category now

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Category:Items

[primal geode]

should they be included in "constructed with habitat builder"

[drifting cave]

the ability to just put "{{Uses item list}}" on a page is amazing 🙏

also crafting times no longer get stuck behind other recipes 🥹

[vague marten]

i haven't done one that works for the machine pages themselves yet, so those are still manual, but that could be added as well, though they might be a bit long and wouldn't really be able to sort them by section like [[sn2:Processor]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Processor

[vague marten]

unless the section name was added as a parm to the recipes themselves - that could work

[drifting cave]

also idk if this is even an issue or not, but shouldn't the strong acid page also show up like how the mild does ?

[vague marten]

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:CirrusSearch#How_frequently_is_the_search_index_updated?

[vernal cypress]

Getting somewhere

[primal geode]

I am so confused by several things here, but as far as I am concerned, I'm here to write, not ask

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Bulb_Floor_Lamp?veaction=edit is this really a thing?

[agile spindle]

nope, deleted it. there's still some leftover pages from a data dump

[primal geode]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Axum_Trashcan
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Axum_Street_Lamp?veaction=edit
these too, I assume

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Axum_Seat?veaction=edit

[primal geode]

I added the template and removed the item category from a majority
there were some I was extremely unsure about, so I just left them be
but those pages really do need revisiting at some point in a number of ways

[agile spindle]

got rid of em and a couple others

[finite rock]

Nice. Yeah this was a good way to find those pages. Are there still any youre unsure about that we can figure out here?

[primal geode]

not in that way
the pages are just really short, and a ton missing recipes
also I feel like they could be categorized better, such as with an "axum" or "seabases"/"constructed with a habitat builder"
just little stuff like that
but for now, they have the infobox

[primal geode]

or, well, I have no idea why the roof cylinder refuses to leave this page
and I had no idea what to do with the "electronics" and "freesia flower" pages

OH and also a ton of the pages still CALL the things "items" even though they specifically aren't
(ie. "Freesia Flower is an item in Subnautica 2.")

[agile spindle]

i believe you can harvest Freesia Flower, it does have an item

at least it does in creative

[primal geode]

you get fiber from it

not an item called "freesia flower"

[agile spindle]

hmm, it appears in the blueprints

maybe a leftover?

[primal geode]

no

planting

freesia flower, acid raion, etc. are plantables

you build them with the habitat builder onto the growbed

but for example, the recipe for the shootroot is a lucifer rotsac, and for the freesia flower it's 3 fiber pulp

you unlock the recipe by scanning a growbed on the observatory island. that's the only place I know has growbeds.
that's why they have a blueprint, but aren't exactly items, all of them.

[agile spindle]

ahhh that makes sense

i guess it would get the lifeform infobox then

[primal geode]

how much do we know about coordinates
they seem really weird

[agile spindle]

unreal engine scales things up really high

[primal geode]

yeah 1m is 100 "coordinate units"

[agile spindle]

and the coordinate plane orientation is different than unity's

[primal geode]

oh is that why the Z axis is listed last

but re: plantables, recipes, habitat builder, etc.

[primal geode]

I added a trivia note about John Masefield in https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Proteavirus
I'm further backing it up with Seth having said #subnautica-2-chat message

[primal geode]

these speeds include acceleration
the top speeds listed on the wiki are correct

[vernal cypress]

Thats IGN's

[agile spindle]

amazing!

[supple wedge]

Hey can I write detailed Biomod thingos

like

more specifics for what a Biomod does

[vernal cypress]

Still a lot to improve tho

[agile spindle]

of course!

[supple wedge]

Ok cool, how do I put it on a new line?

how do I put this below the game description

[agile spindle]

they all need pages created for them, you could create a page if theyre missing one and write the information there

[supple wedge]

So brand new ones got it

[primal geode]

as for how to do new lines

or I mean

there might be some other way, but that works

[supple wedge]

Oki

how do I make an infobox

wait dw

[primal geode]

what's up with these

at least 2 of them exist, but why does the link fail

[agile spindle]

could be a few reasons

are we sure they appear in game?

[primal geode]

anworm and stagged mephit do

I can't guarantee noon gorgon

[supple wedge]

nvm need help

how do I make an infobox

[agile spindle]

use Infobox Item for now, we might have to make a custom one for biomods

[supple wedge]

we do

Should it be like

Radius
Cooldown
Type

like lets use Threat sense for example

Radius - 50m
Cooldown - N/A
Type - Passive

Dash on the other hand

[agile spindle]

mephit and awnworm dont have databank images so thats probably why we dont have an image for it

someone would have to take a picture of them and upload it

[supple wedge]

Radius can be interpreted as dash distance
so
Radius - 20m
Cooldown - 5s
Type - Active

[primal geode]

what the hell is going on here 😭

[supple wedge]

Sam said UI changes are coming in 1.1

so

heres hoping

[agile spindle]

gem created the noon gorgon page so that ones maybe from marketing stuff

[supple wedge]

Oh also

Behaviour?

Like Passive Aggressive?

or Item Drops?

[finite rock]

Last time i saw that it was behavior. But to be honest I dont understand the usecase for that table

If im looking for a specific creature, im on that page. If Im looking for all creatures in a biome, we could have a much smaller version of that table on the biome page

[agile spindle]

i think subnautica players like to have a long list of all the creatures they can look at, plus it helps if they dont know the name of the creature theyre looking for

[vague marten]

i'll throw a simple one together for now

[finite rock]

Yeah i can believe a table of all of them is useful (with aggressive/not), but is listing out all the biomes theyre in useful? It kinda just leads to info overload imo

Like on my last playthrough i basically never used that column

[agile spindle]

im not sure about that one

table would look pretty empty without biomes in it though

[supple wedge]

OH BTW

Haul chassis

you dont need to mount it

for O2

legit just need to go close to this

[vague marten]

you can use [[sn2:Template:Infobox Biomod]] - params are description, radius, cooldown, and type

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Template:Infobox_Biomod

[supple wedge]

Oh also

Threat Sense gets higher pitched the closer you are to danger

[primal geode]

#📁wiki-changes message
I'm not saying to keep the theory that was removed (below), but I feel like it's not all that far fetched

It is theorised that due to the "world tree" the Axum civilization had at some point gone from an advanced race to a primal one.
Axum at some point may have made contact with the architects, proof being a stone from rossete which can be found near an axum tower. The tailings mentioned in PDA entries may be the descendants of the Axum, now far more tribal and less intelligent.

[primal geode]

huh, that's a thing #memes-and-media message

[supple wedge]

What

[primal geode]

well nothing REAALLLYY

just like, the game uses lorem ipsum and the jetocaris as default things

at least for biomods, apparently
I think that's neat

[sick furnace]

Anyone know how to get rid of the blue flickering near the collector leviathan? The open ocean has a bright blue glow that hurts the eyes and ovstructs view of anything

[true mason]

I don't think I have the technical skills or understanding for this. Other people seem to be able to do it much better than I can. I'm trying one last approach using an orthographic camera to capture the in-game 2D render. If that doesn't work, I'll leave it to the pros.

[sleek thistle]

alright! thanks for taking a look

[soft plinth]

will there be something in the wiki for like the axum language/glyphs

[torpid cedar]

Hi, I noticed [[sn2:Habitat_Builder]] points to [[sn2:Time_Of_Day_Display]] rather than [[sn2:Time_of_Day_Display]]. Do I create a redirect or just fix it on the page? Sorry if it's an obvious question, I'm new to this.

[true mason]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Rosetta_Stone
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Axum_Language

[vernal cypress]

doesnt quite fit

[true mason]

i saved your image i think it's reverted

[soft plinth]

ohh thank you 😊

[vernal cypress]

ohhhh

[true mason]

That's much better already, but we can do even better. How do you go about it?

[vernal cypress]

I think it makes more sense having this way its north

[true mason]

My map isn't oriented

[vague marten]

depends on how it's named in-game - if the "of" is capital in-game, then [[sn2:Time of Day Display]] page should be moved, but otherwise if the lowercase "of" is correct, then you can just fix the link on [[sn2:Habitat Builder]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Time_of_Day_Display
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Habitat_Builder

[torpid cedar]

It's lowercase in-game. I'll go ahead and fix it, thank you

[coarse ravine]

just found out about the new wiki and i'm absolutely overjoyed

the thought of sub2 being catalogued on fandom made me subnauseous, to put it mildly

[true mason]

Using the map export from @vernal cypress, I was able to reverse the SVG and align it to create an even more accurate map
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Biomes

[torpid cedar]

Is there any significance for this difference?

[vague marten]

looks like the first one was probably just placeholder before the materials page was made and the second one is properly linking the materials page

[jade solstice]

aight i added the final names wreck we know off guys

we have:

Cicada Wreck (Lander Garage)
Cicada Wreck (Empty Hold)
Cicada Wreck (Canteen)
Cicada Wreck (EVA Prep)
Cicada Wreck (Therapy Room)
Cicada Wreck (Stairway to Heaven)
Sleep Bay 3 (in the Intro)
and the Lifepod Holds nearby to Sleep Bay 3

fun fact for the ones named Cicada Wreck, half are ship Compartments and half are part of the Lander Modules that were actually meant to deatch from the ship but where ripped apart for some reason

Sleep Bay 3 is called a cpmpartment in game rn but theres evidence to suggest it might get corrected to being a Lander Module instead

well see when it happens

ill take a look at the Sleep bay in game again in a bit

[finite rock]

Do you have the version without the overlay?

Looks sick though! Good job yall

[finite rock]

Perfect tysm

[analog kayak]

hi guys can i ask you how many M is deepest point now in subnautica 2 thanks and what u think how much deeper can we go thanks have good day

[finite rock]

Thats an awesome render

[true mason]

750 in the starting spawn, but you can go down to over 3,000 by breaking the game

[analog kayak]

thanks and do u think we can expect in future same deep point like 3000M plus

[true mason]

A believer might say, “If God wills it,” but I would say, “If the devs will it.”

[analog kayak]

amazing thanks !! 😁

i hope we get much deeper then we though think if we get 3000M plus this gonna be crazy horry experience

[true mason]

👀

"maybe"

[analog kayak]

holy moly

[jade solstice]

as soon as we get the Foundations for building ill try and rebuild the colonist bases to better visualize them

and to see if parts of them are impossible

ill actually allready try that just without the Foundations

[novel mesa]

question, does this count for all the twitch drops?

[tardy sequoia]

Small question, I added the Item uses template to the Medical Gel Sac page along with an image and some more description, but the [Collapse] box for the template is displayed quite a bit lower than where it should be next to the Fabricator header

[tight harness]

tbh why even have the collapse button

does anyone ever use those?

[lusty loom]

Helpful for longer pages with multiple sections I guess

[tardy sequoia]

A few pages, like for example the page on titanium are quite huge without them

[manic field]

Item uses template?

[tight harness]

my fundamental problem with collapse buttons is that by the time you wish you clicked the collapse button you are already scrolled past it

[lusty loom]

Sometimes longer pages can feel overwhelming

[tight harness]

yeah but just having the collapse button doesn't make the page shorter unless someone makes the decision to click it

and don't do collapsed by default thats definitely worse

[ripe hedge]

Can someone explain to me what the Angel combs have to do with the three Like why are they connected And give you the DNA buffs

[lusty loom]

They Collect gene data, which your suit synthesizes into your genome or something like that

They are “The Perfect Gene Donors”

[jade solstice]

the angel comb and its nodes are the same root design as the tree and are prob part of its root system

i hope we get an option soon to disable day night cycles in creative

and the angel comb and stuff beeing its root system would explain why specificly those ones and the tree are infected

oh and i wish the single player at leats had photomodes would be so good for getting images lol

[cerulean beacon]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Stagged_Mephit_(HiHat)

If anyone had the picture, I couldn't get a hold of it in the files (or does it not exist?)...

[jade solstice]

just noticed that the Tadpole chassis can be used as an emergency boost

if you detach it

[primal geode]

It does not exist
The databank doesn't have an image for the Stagged Mephit, Awnworm, or Noon Gorgon (I am not personally sure the last one even exists)

[cerulean beacon]

The Noon Gorgon has a databank entry

[quartz ocean]

Guys do you think its possible that this item from SN1 https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Alien_Carving from proteus? I try to find some connections

[jade solstice]

wrong wiki we split off

also dont think so

[cerulean beacon]

Added the databank entry to the page. The image used for the databank entry is the default image, which is the cicada logo. Same as for the HiHat. Should I just put that placeholder in?

[tight harness]

https://getindie.wiki/ check out Indie Wiki Buddy, it'll tell you if you accidentally go to any fandom wiki where an independent counterpart exists and also works on google!

[true mason]

As far as I remember, it's just a placeholder; the devs haven't finished it yet

[cerulean beacon]

Yeah checks out... There are still some small formatting errors in the databank entries as well.

[jade solstice]

some are even marked as coming soon

[true mason]

I think it's a placeholder, but according to the source, it's supposed to look like this

[cerulean beacon]

since we also have the textures (do we?), we could theoretically make our own community render lol

[zenith drum]

oh god, display:none thankfully works, it just needs to be placed at the very top of the source code for some reason

[tight harness]

what are you trying to display none?

[zenith drum]

for page thumbnails

ex.:

[summer kindle]

They appear in game

[cerulean beacon]

upon scan, is the databank entry the cicada logo or do they have a specific image?

[summer kindle]

Haven’t seen

I’m unable to run the game

I have seen text of their entry but I didn’t see the image, or lack thereof

Also very interesting entry lol

[cerulean beacon]

yea, i was doubting my copy and pasting skills when adding that one

[summer kindle]

Worm worm worm worm worm

[cerulean beacon]

Mephit. Stagged mephit.
007 theme starts playing

[zenith drum]

can we put this on the wiki and make it seem like it's a dead serious data bank entry

[cerulean beacon]

in the db entry file, the image listed is that one, and because of its name (DefaultImage), I just assumed it was a work in progress

[cerulean beacon]

already done.

[tardy sequoia]

Does anyone by chance know where Ganzo's Blackbox is located?
I'm trying to fill out the missing entries for https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Blackboxes
I know it's somewhere in the Tailing Village but I can't remember where exactly, I've been swimming around for the past 20 minutes and can't find anything 😔

[zenith drum]

if i had to guess it's either around the houses or inside them

[radiant mortar]

In sn2, I think not being able to kill the creatures in the game takes a lot of the game's essence and freedom. You can't do nothing against creatures and just play defensively. And, when talking about smaller creatures that attack, you can't do nothing about it. If the players doesn't want to attack, it is their choice. Don't make that a rule for everyone.
It is my honest opinion, and I hope the devs make something about it. Maybe some extra mode (Like havig creative, survival (non attackable creatures), survival (attackable creatures).
I wrote my opinion here because I dont know other ways to express it in order for the devs to see it

[agile spindle]

This channel is for the wiki, the devs are more likely to read #subnautica-2-chat

[tardy sequoia]

That's where I've been looking, but I just can't find it again

[radiant mortar]

Thanks mate 😁

[dire agate]

Do we know how many bio bed upgrades there are?

[uncut ridge]

yall where can i find the tailing rug?

[dire agate]

I know where it is, 1 sec lemme go get coords

[true mason]

Do you talk abt biomods or bio bed upgrades like inventory extension ?
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Biomods

[dire agate]

Yeah bio beds as in inventory and hotbar expansions.

[true mason]

I haven't looked into it yet, but I can check it out. You'll get an answer later, though it might take a little while

[dire agate]

Yeah ik, game is new so...

[true mason]

We've already done quite a bit of work, but once again, we have to do the mapping ourselves using the game files, so it's not always easy

[zenith drum]

I'm pretty sure there is only 1 hotbar expansion and all of the biobeds for inventory expansion give the same amount of inventory space

[dire agate]

Tailing rug coordinates in bottom right.

[zenith drum]

so if we get the starter inventory space and the inventory space amount we got on creative mode

• the number of how much inventory slots are added per bed upgrade

we can get the exact number of beds

without digging through files

[uncut ridge]

1st one is E/W, second one N/S, and last one vertical if im not wrong right?

[dire agate]

there is at least 2 horbar ones, i have 7 slots rn

[zenith drum]

right

[dire agate]

ive seen people with 8 tho

[true mason]

Survival or Creative ?

[zenith drum]

just go on creative I'm like 99% sure all the biobed expansions are there available at start by default

[dire agate]

survival

might just cruise around with that one biomod on, see what i can find

[uncut ridge]

what if i told you i was pretty much next to it 😭

[dire agate]

lol, stuff is very easy to miss

[uncut ridge]

yeah having to avoid alien fishes and having a big ocean

[dire agate]

i have like 35 hours on the game and i only just found the data card that gives you the decorative roof antennas

[leaden plinth]

Its in the Graveyard caves I believe

[dire agate]

These are all the colonist bunkers I have found.

[uncut ridge]

i only have 15 hours and barely moved from main sites, i should explore more (except where the collector leviathan is, i have trauma with him.)

[dire agate]

honsestly I dont think the collectors are too bad, might grab your tadpole once then spank it, but thats easiely reparied

[leaden plinth]

Has anyone managed to find a way into the hatch inside the graveyard caves?

[uncut ridge]

yeah the thing is when i first encounter it i had default tadpole and no repair tool yet and when running away i accidentalle stepped out of the zone, calling the other leviathan

[dire agate]

where specifically is that?

[dire agate]

[leaden plinth]

Just outside the tadpole pens I think, I'll grab a screenshot and coords in a moment

[dire agate]

alright thanks

[leaden plinth]

Also, might be useful to anyone taking screenshots https://www.curseforge.com/subnautica-2/ue4ss-mods/toggleable-hud

[dire agate]

suprised that isnt in the game already

[leaden plinth]

EA 1.0

Wcyd

Is there a page for personal messages yet?

[leaden plinth]

Doesn't hide the mask overlay and hands unfortunately, https://www.curseforge.com/subnautica-2/blueprints/photomode is a little better but it keeps the heat and compass overlays

[agile spindle]

still, hiding the UI is big and the mask isnt a big deal. thanks for the heads up on this

[supple wedge]

Using jt

Works fine

Theeeeeeee
What's it callled

Ghost and freecam mod doesn't work

[leaden plinth]

This one just outside the tadpole pens, coords are -277577 435653 -13542

Another hatch juts around the side as well at -276971 440584 -13345

[dire agate]

ill go check that out

dont think it is anything tbh

may have just been another part of the tadpole pens that got destroyed

[leaden plinth]

Might be an indev base with a biobed

[plush wedge]

hey guys do you know where to find roof cyndler and roof large pannel ? thank you

[dire agate]

roof cylinder?

[tight harness]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Roof_Cylinder we don't have info on obtaining it

[dire agate]

oh

[plush wedge]

and for the large pannel ?

[tight harness]

if you find out please report back! or you can click edit on the top of the page I linked and write it there

[dire agate]

tbh i just wanna make a really cool base, so i want to get all the base parts and decorations first

anyone know where the rest of these parts are?

wrong place to ask...

[tardy sequoia]

I'm not sure if they're elsewhere as well, but the second work light I found at a dive elevator to the left of the Therapy room Wreckage above the Power Plant control room
around that general area are some boxes with the time of day displays as well
the portable oxygen generator should be at the giant clam

[dire agate]

okay ty

question

u the guy on the wiki

nubody or something

[tardy sequoia]

I am, yeah

[dire agate]

cool

i wanna contribute but im honestly trying t get everything unlocked and make a cool base

only contributed one thing so far

which was the location of the strike armor

[tardy sequoia]

that's useful, I'm currently working on getting locations and images for some of the Databoxes with upgrade modules
perhaps you have some to contribute there as well if you have them unlocked

[dire agate]

yeah i can, im new to wiki editing tho

also

[leaden plinth]

Roof Cylinder is a databox in the Graveyard

I just found it

[dire agate]

these data boxes. do you mean the boxes with the data chips in?

[dire agate]

cool

coords?

[tardy sequoia]

yup
for example this one for the depth module by Ruby's Tadpole

[leaden plinth]

Not sure if this is intentional, but potential easter egg. There's a heart shaped cluster of plants just next to the wreck in the Graveyard

[dire agate]

yeah, is there a generalised page for databoxes on the wiki yet, when i checked earlier there wasnt

[tardy sequoia]

not yet, that's what I'm trying to work on

[dire agate]

okay cool

[dire agate]

do you have the coordinates for it?

[leaden plinth]

No unfortunately, juts closed the game

Its somewhere around the tailing village

[dire agate]

okay, was it a databox?

[leaden plinth]

Yeah, you can hear it pinging

[dire agate]

okay ill have a look

[leaden plinth]

How do you get the growbeds?

[dire agate]

there is just 2 that u can scan at the research facility

one on the roof

one on the floor to the side

[brittle vault]

does anyone have good images of the ||Cerathecan||, bc I have found not a lot of those and adding them to its entry may make it feel more explained

plus, I think the photo of it in the codex is kinda bad when it comes to explaining what it is

[lost idol]

where do i find the conduit crystals???

[dire agate]

they spawn around these things

[formal ferry]

how deep is this? also can you tell me how they look ?

[dire agate]

about 300-400m and they look like this

[lost idol]

around where is that joe

like distance

n e s w

[formal ferry]

thanks

[dire agate]

they are like below the giant alien generator

you will find these

[lost idol]

past the leviathans??

[leaden plinth]

Right under the power plant

[supple wedge]

they have a lightning effect

[leaden plinth]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Conduit_Crystal

[supple wedge]

like sometimes theyll be hit by lightning

[dire agate]

and occasionally they will send out a spark that arcs to the ground that spawns the crystals

[supple wedge]

hey i wrote dat

@sharp oak found it

[formal ferry]

i think near angel comb

[supple wedge]

PEBBLE

[dire agate]

pebble.

[leaden plinth]

Okay so I WASNT tweaking good to know

[leaden plinth]

What are these things called?

Collapsed Power Nodes?

[dire agate]

idk, to me they seem kinda like broken tesla coils

[leaden plinth]

this work?

[dire agate]

that seems good for now

they probably have an actual name tho

[leaden plinth]

Yeah but until someone extracts the model name, I'll leave it be

[tardy sequoia]

they can't be scanned, so not one directly available
don't know how the game files call them

[leaden plinth]

Just noticed the crystals are used exclusively for tool upgrades as well

[oak dove]

Aren't the crystal node spawns fixed (to an exact coordinate)?
Or do they actually (semi-) randomly spawn in the area?

[dire agate]

they are fixed yes, but all are around the tesla coils

[tardy sequoia]

well they're meant to integrate axum technology into alterra tools

so kinda makes sense

actually, should we put some kind of warning on the Troilite page that it currently doesn't respawn?
I've been seeing quite a few people complaining that they had to start a new save due to being unable to repair the powerplant because they used all of it before creating a metal farm

[dire agate]

trolite does though doesnt it?

it only the bacterial culture that doesnt?

[tardy sequoia]

pretty sure it doesn't, or at least I haven't seen it do that
just a couple nodes by the metal farm

[dire agate]

we should put a note on for that then

for both i mean

but trolite u can use in metal farms

make sure to put that in there

bacterial culture cant tho

[tardy sequoia]

yeah, the culture doesn't respawn and already has a note on it

[ashen olive]

dermal garden gives 15 food and water secretion gives 5 water btw, idk the timeframes

[tardy sequoia]

but that by itself wouldn't cause a softlock since it can't be used on anything but the metal farm

[agile spindle]

the water secretion packet grows over time, ive seen it up to +15

[ashen olive]

oh maybe algae block does too

or it could be random

[dire agate]

has anyone suggested that they add a search bar to the data bank?

[agile spindle]

it's worth testing, both the Algae Block and the water packet need pages still

[ashen olive]

ill keep algae farm on and see if it changes or just gives a new one

[dire agate]

imma go look for the roof cylinder

ill let you guys know where it is if i find it

[leaden plinth]

Water secretion gives +5 water per time, upto 30

[dire agate]

so does that get passively better the longer you have it on?

[leaden plinth]

Uh as in the biomod?

[dire agate]

yeah

[leaden plinth]

If so, no the water secretion packet itself increases with time

[dire agate]

oh like if you have it on you?

it passivly fills up more and more?

[leaden plinth]

I think it just creates a new packet with 5 water or adds 5 to an existing packet upto 30 every 5 minutes or so

I dont know if the exact time is 5 minutes it might be like 2:30

[dire agate]

idk, because by base it was 5 water every 2.5 minutes

[leaden plinth]

15 minutes for a full packet sounds more accuratethan 30 to me

[dire agate]

yeah so it keeps adding into the same puch

so takes 15 minutes total to get a full pouch of 30 water

[ashen olive]

yeah algae block grows too

[dire agate]

how long does algae take at base?

also how much food does it start at?

[ashen olive]

it starts at 15 i think, that was the first i got

[lost idol]

joe

how far from the lifeboat is the conduit crystal?

i cant find it

[dire agate]

oh damn

like 1000+ meters

[leaden plinth]

How far into the game are you?

Conduit crystals are fairly lategame

[dire agate]

found the roof cylinder and roof panel!!!

the coords for them

should propably put that on the wiki asap

so is the lava zone called the graveyard?

[bleak anchor]

Hi everyone. just wondering if anyone experiencing the same issue. Apparently my signals sign only show up to Blackbox-Wander. I have been waiting for further instruction but not nothing happen.

[agile spindle]

Hey, gameplay questions are best in #subnautica-2-chat

[bleak anchor]

thank youu ❤️

[dire agate]

Is the lava zone called the graveyard?

[agile spindle]

yes

[dire agate]

Okay, locations of the Roof Cylinder and Roof Panel are now on the wiki

how do we go into the files to get images?

[agile spindle]

it's more complicated than a discord image could relay im afraid

what are you looking for specifically?

[dire agate]

an unopened databox

[agile spindle]

like an icon?

[dire agate]

yeah ig

[lost idol]

@dire agate

where do i find the adaptation thing here?

[agile spindle]

im not too sure, id need to see what image you want specifically to find it

[dire agate]

something like this, but the one from sub 2 specifically

[lost idol]

where do i find the adaptation thing here?

[dire agate]

what point of the game are you at???

[lost idol]

alien wreckege

[dire agate]

yeah i just at the bottom of the pit

[agile spindle]

ahhh, this is not an icon im pretty sure it's a render. someone took a close up picture and cropped out the background

[dire agate]

even just a in game picture of one would be fine

[agile spindle]

sure i can grab one rq

[dire agate]

ty

[agile spindle]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/File:Databox.png

[dire agate]

thanks

i need help with something

the 2 base decoration from twitch rewards

i have claimed them

but dont have access to the in game

[supple wedge]

weird, i got 5 food from mine

[dire agate]

never mind had to claim them in the setting of the game aswell

[turbid summit]

what exactly causes this and how do I fix it? XD

[vernal cypress]

I can render missing icons as png if needed

[agile spindle]

i dont think there's a need for an icon, it's not an item

wouldnt say no to a transparent render tho 👀

[ruby widget]

Oh hey its a channel for the wiki

Excellent

[rose phoenix]

I made a site to search through all the "Databank" entries. Maybe helpful for the wiki community:
https://br3zzly.github.io/subnautica2-lore-search/

Will also add all the "Logs" later.

[kindred tartan]

This is supposed to allow me to obtain the 4th mutation, but it's not working. For your information, I've done everything I'm supposed to before. All I have left to do is shoot two small infected plants like this one with my cannon. And the game won't activate, which means I can't continue progressing in the story. I also want to mention that I'm definitely playing in survival mode on Xbox, so I've never used any cheats.

[agile spindle]

Hey, gameplay questions go in #subnautica-2-chat 🙂

[kindred tartan]

@agile spindle i can't send a picture on this chat

Can we talk private@agile spindle

[agile spindle]

well they'll probably get the idea. this page might be able to help you: https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Bloom_Core

[kindred tartan]

Tanks

@agile spindle I've already followed all the steps you sent me, and this plant doesn't work for players in creative mode, but I'm in survival mode 🐥😔

[tight harness]

If there is no paragraph like text above the TOC

[summer kindle]

Thanks for all the work everyone has been doing

I’ve been unable to contribute actual gameplay stuff myself still just been trying my best to make sure things exist there

And doing a mediocre job of trying to direct others on what needs to be a done

Lots has been happening in the past couple days though

Wiki is looking a lot better

[supple wedge]

is he fr spam pinging him

[dire agate]

thank you! i know i havent contributed a lot myself yet but its been fun, just want the useful info to be out there for anyone looking for it

speaking of which.. i still cant find another work light fragment

[agile spindle]

will take care of this after i catalog all the bloom locations but someone can handle it before then if they like: the page on Bloom Core is actually incorrect - what I thought were "Angel Combs" are actually the Bloom Core (where the adaptation is taken from). I'm not sure exactly what the Angel Comb is

so the images on the bloom core page will probably get moved to Bloom Canker

[dire agate]

yeah i think the bloom core is the purple thing inside the angel comb

[summer kindle]

is the bloom core just the central part of the angel comb?

[agile spindle]

looking at any part of the "Angel Comb" says "Bloom Core" as a tooltip

[summer kindle]

They are listed as the same species in the databank

[dire agate]

and yeah the images on the bloom core page rn are actually bloom kankers

[summer kindle]

Different entries but they’re both given the same binomial name

[agile spindle]

do we know where exactly the Angel Comb entry is unlocked?

[faint sandal]

Is there a wiki ‘article’ about the building style of the different races?

[agile spindle]

there isn't, but it could probably go under an Architecture section on the Axum page

[dire agate]

bloom core is this

[faint sandal]

Ye but that can help as in lore wise and in the sense of modders that want to keep it to original as possible

[dire agate]

does anyone know where the work light fragments are?

[faint sandal]

[ashen olive]

water retention biomod doubles all water gain
https://medal.tv/games/subnautica-2/clips/mJfjsXPnAKe8aHhsT?invite=cr-MSxMaWMsMjA5NjA3NTM&v=15

[tight harness]

you can get mad that its "off topic" or you can look at it as a place for the wiki to improve. We are in the business of getting people the information they are looking for

[agile spindle]

okay so the opened angel comb in the shallows scans as an angel comb, but the closed ones later on scan as bloom core

I think our interpretation of it is correct

[dire agate]

anyone?

[tight harness]

did you check the wiki? [[sn2:work light]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/work_light

[dire agate]

nothing there

[tight harness]

when you find it let us know we can put it on the wiki!

you can always put it on yourself by clicking edit

[fluid vale]

work light has a few in the very top left near those purple things

i just finished the scan in game

im going to try to spend today editing blueprint pages that dont have locations

like work light or wall rack

[summer kindle]

That the bloom core is an advanced form of the angel comb?

Fully taken over by infection

[agile spindle]

thats also possible ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[summer kindle]

What’s the interpretation you think it’s correct?

[dire agate]

i went to all of those and they werent there

nevermind found one

[fluid vale]

i had to do some looking on the cliff edge

[dire agate]

down in a cave

[agile spindle]

Bloom Core and Angel Comb share the same species name

[fluid vale]

one of them is outside a colonist habitat i believe

the one in that pic is on the cliff edge

[dire agate]

whats that map ur using?

[fluid vale]

https://subnautica2.gg/map

[agile spindle]

The Bloom Core databank specifically mentions its own core so im leaning towards Bloom Core = Infected Angel Comb

but the confusing part is that the Angel Comb is the thing releasing the virus

[summer kindle]

yeah that was what I was saying

[agile spindle]

so does the Angel Comb infect itself??

[fluid vale]

can you guys remind me what + and - are for per user

[summer kindle]

Well the Proteavirus situation is interesting

Everything has evolved to live with it

But it is still a virus that is opportunistic

[agile spindle]

number of characters changed in the edit

[summer kindle]

And it eventually seems to completely take over

[fluid vale]

gotcha thx

[dire agate]

what does this refer to?

[summer kindle]

The Titan Rockbore entry says it has receptors that encourage viral infection

[agile spindle]

the titan rockbore is their food

all angel combs and bloom cores are on a part of the rockbore, eating it to create the virus

[fluid vale]

it might be the downloads that play a dialogue?

[summer kindle]

Proteavirus is a double edged sword

On one side the horizontal gene transfer it facilitates allows for rapid evolution and adaptation

But it runs the risk of being completely taken over

[fluid vale]

it was one of the colonists who got masefield who blew up the original settlement i think?

havent memorized most of their names yet

[agile spindle]

Nahema

[fluid vale]

yea her

[summer kindle]

Do we have a Masefield page

[fluid vale]

it redirects to proteavirus

[agile spindle]

masefield = proteavirus

[knotty nimbus]

I feel like the game specifically says this is not the case unless the Bloom is not proteavirus and is something else and uhhh I forgot

[fluid vale]

i put in this last sentence but it doesnt seem like it fits tbh, can be altered or removed if you guys have suggestions

since the bloom is acting on the tree

and prob not vice versa

ill remove it for now

[summer kindle]

Need to reread some stuff about Masefield and Proteavirus to get a full picture

[agile spindle]

i am unsure

[knotty nimbus]

Is there anywhere on the wiki yet with all the databank entries listed?

[supple wedge]

Did we include the fact that there's like

So much metal in proteus' water

Actually can someone do the math on how much

[fluid vale]

yes

[supple wedge]

Because they've said no one has survived for longer than three months

[summer kindle]

It is mentioned on the Proteus page

[agile spindle]

we havent put too many databank entries on the wiki yet unfortunately

[supple wedge]

Like is it possible to calculate the number? In like parts per million

[supple wedge]

I think once the 1.1 update comes out it will be a lot easier with the brand new user interface

Because the current One sucks

Also of all things the sandspears PDA entry is omitted

[fluid vale]

if anyone has the time, it might be nice to add to the Proteus page the distance from Earth

or the star system that it's in

[agile spindle]

i dont think theyre hard to copy over its just a matter of someone doing it ;p

[supple wedge]

I think once the organized better it's be a lot easier

I'll probably get to it

[knotty nimbus]

I was already planning to go through and write down the databank entries I have for my own purposes today probably if that is of interest

[summer kindle]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Pent

Btw

Isn’t there a version of this somewhere that is a different colour?

[sacred dune]

yes but its only visual and its blue

[summer kindle]

I swear in some footage pre release we saw green or blue Pents

Ok

Can we get blue Pents on the page

[primal geode]

Same applies to
Is there a mention of that, while whoever is at it

[fluid vale]

and eventually a usage page for what it can be made into

[summer kindle]

It has variants?

[fluid vale]

annoyed still that fandom will always be the first result on google

[primal geode]

Yes, a blue one, under the anemone towers

[supple wedge]

Man... I'm s-

[remote leaf]

if things go correctly, fandom will eventually fall down the search results

just keep updating the wiki so more and more go to our wiki

[primal geode]

The sn1 wiki is the second result already
But the sn2 wiki is nowhere to be seen

[sacred dune]

my pc is a potato so i cant but im pretty sure if u go from lifepod to wu wu box u run into some? or maybe it was another path i dont remember and im not on rn sorry😭

[remote leaf]

SN2 wiki is also new

it will take time for it to climb the results

[summer kindle]

I do not have the ability to play the game so I’m unable

[remote leaf]

the same will apply for Fandom's SN2 Wiki as well

[summer kindle]

I don’t think we have to worry about the fandom wiki.

[tight harness]

it won't always be first. Weird Gloop has a proven track record for beating fandom

[remote leaf]

yeah, I doubt we will have to worry about it

[tight harness]

whats the name of something that isn't in sn1 but is in sn2? Like an item

[fluid vale]

does crypter deserve a page yet

[agile spindle]

I think so, yeah

[faint sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/beauty-and-the-beast-gif-7817005

[agile spindle]

tho we have very little info on them

[remote leaf]

advanced battery

damn you chat scroll

[fluid vale]

ill make a one sentence page

[summer kindle]

From what I can gather Crypters are simply a faction of Axum

[fluid vale]

bc im sure curious players that finish EA would look it up

which means more traffic

[summer kindle]

Axum seem to have multiple “factions” mentioned

[tight harness]

nice. For SN2 I doubt fandom will even ever show up first. Fandom isn't actually great at SEO, they just are incumbent in a lot of results

[remote leaf]

[summer kindle]

There are the Crypters, the Vepherds, the Ardhiacs, the Magi, and the Tailing

as far as I can tell these are just different Axum groups

[remote leaf]

from my experience with SL Wiki, any new items tend to take over fandom on search results

granted, it helps I make the page like a month or two before the update

[knotty nimbus]

Are the Korakorum one of those or are they separate

[primal geode]

Also, the reddit post is high up, and I assume that ought to drive some traffic to us instead of fandom

[remote leaf]

yeah, that is also nice

[agile spindle]

Karakorum is just the name of the big Axum power plant

[summer kindle]

Isn’t that a location

[primal geode]

Karakorum is the name of a city afaik?

[knotty nimbus]

Hm. Maybe

[short spire]

Hey guys, I'm new to this whole "editing/adding to a wiki" thing and looking for best practice info here. In the data bank, the portable storage locker is listed as being able to mount to any "Hardpoint". Since a "hardpoint" is more of a concept or category that the game uses to refer to attachment points, is it okay to create a page that lists all of the types of hardpoints/what they could be found on, or should the respective pages for those items just be edited to include the word hardpoint for SEO?

[fluid vale]

oh that makes more sense

i assumed the tailing were descendants of the axum that went feral

[summer kindle]

The Ardhiacs were mentioned to have built a telescope at Karakorum to spy on the world tree in Xanadu

[fluid vale]

and thats why they clawed and crawled on the colonists or someth

[agile spindle]

is this mechanic reflected in game? are there actually hardpoints you can attach it to?

[summer kindle]

The Ardhiacs are also referred to as “fire users” so I assume they were an industrial faction