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The time might be now to decide.
To decide to fork, or . . . ?
ive got a question i dont know if anyone can answer but does anyone have a clue on where the cockpit of the aurora is located?
is it the front the top outlook or the small jut in the middle top of the ship?
top middle of the ship thing i'd assume
see i thought that but then i saw the glass at the very front and thought it to be more logical
i dont think thats glass
that same texture is on the sides of it
i mean, it could be
idk
its set in the far future
well so is the one at the top
the habitat builder page for subnautica has alot wrong with it, mostly wrong listings for names, but its also missing window domes and large rooms
probably on the top bit. alot of modern ships do it like that, same woth fantasy ships such as star destroyers and the axiom from Wall-e
I don't know a lot about the game, but marblemelons are hydrating, right?
The Bulbo Tree page seems to also imply that they give a certain amount of water.
But for some reason they aren't listed as giving any water on their appropriate page
Yuh
They don't give water anymore?
They do, I was just showing that it doesn't which is what you brought up lol
Fixed it, the value was there but someone didnt put it in properly in the onfobox so it didnt show up
someone just greefed the Anchor Pods
theres a greefing streak going on atm
The real blabbit12 is the culpret
Thanks for the warning
@sour basin this channel is for discussing the wiki, not potential game updates. Please use #subnautica-chat or #below-zero-chat .
Ok sorry
That part is called the Citadel of the ship, correct?
It would be the bridge, usually, I believe.
maybe?
i thought the bridge was just the internal part, although that actually does make sense based on how ive heard it used before
You might be right; perhaps it would be called the conning tower, then.
Guys this channel is for the Subnautica wiki, please take this to #off-topic or #memes-and-media.
sorry
hey, I'm active on a few wikis and noticed that Subnautica is still on Fandom, and perusing the chat history it seems like that never really took off. is there anything in particular that's stopping that from happening?
Currently, I think it's the lack of anyone putting in enough effort to make the fork happen.
I would suggest you put that in #memes-and-media .
it in #đşstreams-and-videos
The wiki peaple here sayed "no we are not moving and thats final"
We had a huge talk about it 51 days ago at about this hour.
yeah, I skimmed but didn't quite see what arguments were used
since Fandom is uhh, pretty terrible, were injecting AI nonsense questions into wikis, is horrible to use, and a load of folks have been trying to leave, so, it feels like the only compelling argument is the mechanical act of moving
like I also saw talk about, despite seemingly being better off and having dedicated reps to fandom, all of those people are gone now
"We have a long history with fandom"
I mean, that statement could be said about most abusive relationships, but it doesn't mean it's not an abusive relationship
fandom the company has an abusive relationship with the fandoms they claim to represent, and after seeing lots of wikis move while Subnautica isn't, I wanted to ask around and see if I could help somehow
I mean itâs mostly just that itâs a lot of work for not very much
the fandom wiki is established and has been for years and people are still gonna use that one anyway
right, the cost-benefit analysis is very fair, although I disagree that the cost is tremendously high and that people will still just use the fandom version
a lot more people are becoming aware of Fandom's shenanigans and extensions like Indie Wiki Buddy are very helpful to ensure you actually go to the right wiki
like, this is part of why I wanted to ask around and see if I could help, since I help maintain another game's wiki on Miraheze/WikiTide and setting up a wiki there is relatively easy. personally, I find the mess of stuff Fandom injects on pages to make the wiki way harder to navigate
another thing to consider is that, if Unknown Worlds were willing to get involved, I think that abusing the DMCA is disgusting, but for Rain World we managed to get the publisher to actually take down the Fandom wiki with a DMCA request and could probably do the same here after everyone was moved over
theyâre not going to do that
because...
(there are lots of valid answers to this, I just don't like negative assertions like that without at least one of them)
like I'm not answering this as someone who's just gonna tell you you're bad for staying on fandom (you're not), just as someone who is involved with other wikis, cares about Subnautica in general, and would be willing to directly get more involved to help make a transition happen if people wanted that. there are lots of valid reasons for this, I just haven't been able to find any direct answers and I think it's reasonable to have one because I doubt I'll be the last person to show up asking like this
and, I agree with the notion that a fork is a bad idea. even though Fandom's policies prevent actually removing wikis, and let's say you can't get the publisher to actually push them to remove the wiki, as long as the community strongly pushes toward a particular wiki, that shift will happen and the fandom wiki will become a barren wasteland. it has happened for all sorts of games and will continue happening for more. but if some of the community are actually on board with being on Fandom still, then it will be a true fork, and Fandom's vampiric SEO practices will win
I just haven't been able to find any direct answers and I think it's reasonable to have one
There's already a complete wiki for a game that released in early access 10 years ago.
The work required from a bunch of volunteers isn't worth the time and effort to them when what exists is perfectly suitable to 99% of the community.
because the devs were against the idea of us moving the wiki off of fandom when we talked about this before
ah
that's unfortunate
but, it is the answer I was looking for, so, I'll stop pushing
So Iâm wondering where to get nickel. I know itâs in the lost river but I donât know where specifically. Is there certain spots? In the brine maybe?
I would ask in #subnautica-chat .
its a space ship so its in the tower up top
looks to be more either sensors or shields or maybe even solar, or atleast its def tech, its the same style as the big ones at the sides
This is so far the best theory
trust me i know my vehicles
Also how did you find that message I sent it like weeks ago
scrolling
im bored and on caffeine
check it out mainly the last 2 pages rn
i noticed that Pault Torgal says something revealing
he only other survivors are my son, Bart, and Maida
The Only Other
wich means there was atleast 1 more member that diddnt make it
as hes not in any manifest likly just a pilot or something, not important enough , atleast not as much as The company owners and their hired ex military Bodyguard
the aurora had 9 passengers but while we know 4 of them (Wilson, Elheim, Khasar and one unnamed) only Khasars offcial number (passenger 7) is known to us
we also have unnamed crew missing from the wiki page
out the 148 crew members we know very few
17 , 18 if you count the First officer
Captain Hollister
Second Officer Keen
Medical Officer Danby
CTO Yu
Non-Essential Systems Maintenance Chief Ryley Robinson
Engineer Berkeley
Technitian Hinkle
Jo (a Contractor)
Huggins (unknown Prawn Bay position)
Ozzy (Owner of the Cafeteria)
unidentified Crew:
Head of Human Resources (Lifepod 6)
2 Crew in scanner room)
4 Crew mentioned in PDA's
while not mentioned, Keen beeing the second officer means we have an unidentified First officer aswell
One cut crew:
Senior Engineer LaFette
They were hypothermic and frostbitten, because they walked back to avoid âangering them.â'
this line from a PDA shows the Mercury II had atleast 2 currently unnamed Crew members
plus 6 members of unknown occupation joining up with Elliot for a kinda expedition to look for the alien structures, 3 of wich died
from how described beeing ripped apart after following an sos of some kind, by a Warper
@hearty moon
@ivory steppe are you active with editing?
cuz i dont think i can the following myself lol
the wiki rly needs a clean up
many Lore points (like most info on Robin Ayou) comes from unused / cut PDAS currently
so ones only seen if you use console commands
Whyâd you @ me
@heady gulch i have a question for the wiki maybe
mainly if you know anyone whos currently rather active to assist me , many of the current infos on alterra employees come still from Cut PDA's
Hm.
Depends where youâre trying to put this information
nono im trying to correct the pages
for Example Robin Ayous page still has the info from pdas that were made unavailable in old updates
pdas from the old story
only readable if you use console commands / the Dev console
it still says she was an alterra contractor send to the Planet by them. even tho in the current version all we know is that alterra bought her employeer and that she actually went to the planet without their knowledge
Could be related to page protections, eons ago some pages were protected due to vandalism
I can look into the page permissions and see whatâs up
the only PDA given as a source on robina page is a cut one from the story line where we woke up on the planet.
Feel free to update the page if you can
im planning to as soon as i get thru all known data on her
im currently making a google doc for every single known employee of all the companys n stuff
@heady gulch if you have time could you check something?ä
the Alterra page links to 2 databank entries that dont seem to even exist on the wiki
Databank Entry: Article on Alterra's Governance
Databank Entry: Alterra Shares Fall 2% on Aurora Accident
the Data the apparently contain also isnt findable for me
some Alterra Companys / Divisions
Alterra Water Board
Intrepid Phasegates
Aurora Corp
Alterra Times
You don't need to ping these guys for everything, remember they're volunteers. Just leave your comments here and they'll check the channel when they can.
yes sry
anyways 3 am, should try and sleep lol
finaly finished with all the known alterra staff in sector zero
how do people actually get that wiki role
looks like someone made up a Planet, its kot in zhe linked source
wich is removed content anyways
also PDAs only seen per console commands def arent Canon Lore
there is a reaaon why things are only available with Cheats
unless they get placed in the game world they arent canon
i mean half of those seen with cheats are placeholders and deleted stuff
gonna prepare doc with my findings for later discussion
if anyone wants, i obv accept help lol
These are all the fully protected articles.
@cinder kestrel, you have been successfully verified as wiki user "SLScool".
Which requires having a role on the wiki.
a role
Such as Rollback or Thread Moderator.
i checked
4 PDAs obtained with only console commands in BZ
2 of wich (repulsion and spotlight) are the same as from the original
2 are plants only in BZ wich makes this difficult as Subnauticas console command stuff was for example all from cut content
so im not sure if we can trust those 2
also noticed that on PS4 / 5 you get alot more cut entries shown then the wiki says for the original
many of wich are placeholders or deleted
i finished the Data on what has sources
@sharp oak i have the link for the Google Doc where i wrote down for us here wich sources are non existent or Cut Content
should i send that to someone first? or is there a place for that maybe
took me quite some time to check it lol
Aight unidentified should be done exept for 2 that i need to look up again first
All ever mentioned and not cut Alterra Employees
mentioned as in talked about
not so sure about Unidentified being on there, but if they should
then the U should be uppercase in all of them
i will
i mean ok maybe not the 2 with just Aurora Crew
but atleast the ones with specific jobs mentioned
like the Head of HR for the Aurora
[[the info is in the pages i put in notes
i dont rly understand the source system rn
if you want to see my List of ALL charachters
i can send you the google sheet
im also gonna soon check what the missing databank entrys are about that some sources claim to exist
Aurora Engineering Drone - Log
this PDA mentions how a repulsion cannon with an added circuit box can punch a hole into a cargo bay
Today's Menu
yeah it's a fun detail
and this one mentions how a replusion cannon punched a hole into it / and the hull and made the stuff shoot out into space
the drone log is literaly in the hallway infront of Bay 3 is the thing
sooo we know who did it Berkeley and Yu or atleast Yu
Yu may be the CTU but Yus also kinda crazy sometimes
and now they have to eat nuts for dessert cause of Yu đ
yu renamed and reprogrammed a drone to match her subordinates behavior because of funny
new Aurora thing!
the menu pda mentions onboard growbeds to be where they grew chinese potatoes
ok im convinced it was Yu and Berkeley
the cargo bay 3 incident was with a repulsion with an added modified battery
and another unnamed charachter (but cut) a security officer
Robotics Bay Security
the pda
hey do you own subnautica on steam
yeah
sure, I can grab it sometime later
a possibly existing old build pda
lifepod 17 from when its wasnt ozzy but LaFette
as thats seemingly an old source for Aurora Technitian Hinkle
ah, older build
and if it is then Hinkle isnt part of the active 'canon
anymore
dont know wich build sadly
ouch
and i can only get BZ stuff as i dont own subnautica on steam
doesnt help that much
Cargo Crates
pristine, CARGO with white back color
Alterra property (name on it in teh corner) 2.2 T (tons)
demaged and dirty , CARGO with orange back color
also 2.2T
for both the small and big funnily
but only small clean a sthe white on it
most wrecks are just storage
but 1 sofar (12) had some lab like panels plus cargo
while 14 had cargo and a small office ish room
sofar all of what crashed was the Auroras engineering sections (as storage is according to a pda their stuff)
0.25 cubic kilometers of storage
wreck 5
some quarters (2 double beds, wall shelfs and plant pods on some flat shelfs)
next to it a room with a destroyed prawn (looking more like a cargo bay with a prawn to carry
quarters and lockers in room with prawn look like to be where that rooms crew slept
one non conected Cargo Bay reached via hole inn a wall
wreck 11 (if the pda is at the correct place then leisure deck B is there (wich ios weird as its mainly cargo)
in that case Leisure Deck B would be this room lol
was where the pda was
wreck 4
another 2 cargo bays
it does mention a prawn suit operation rule, but its one to not climb on moving equipment
and its once more not in prawn room but a lone suit surrounded by Cargo crates
wreck 7 the same
wreck 2 is cargo and has some prawn arms)
is there a cannon reason for why the Sea Emperor Leviathan never spoke the the Degasi team and just to us?
I was to believe that was an affect of the virus they were infected with
How do you think they'd entice them to find her otherwise?
sooo
the aurora had 1 known prawn bay
and seemingly 2 seamoth
we have one in the ship
and lifepod 17 was, according to Ozzy allmost crushed by one aswell
and well the seamoth bay inside isnr a likly candidate as its inbetween the cargo bay lift and the drive core
sofar the prawns i counted in the other small cargo bays do align with how many are missing from The Prawn Pay
i just found an cut PDA from Bz from an old build that isnt on the Wiki
Robin Goodall - Alterra Application Interview
INTERVIEWER: Why have you applied for this role?
ROBIN: Everyone's talking about 4546B. Who hasn't applied?! Maybe Jeffreys.
INTERVIEWER: No, Jeffreys signed on last week. Why THIS assignment?
ROBIN: The last time we found sentient alien life was Strader VI. Seventeen years ago. It's been fun, but frankly i'm bored, and you have telepathic squid.
INTERVIEWER: I should tell you that rumors about space-faring aliens on the planet ARE rumors. If that's why you're here you'll be disappointed.
ROBIN: I'm a xeno-linguist. Space-faring aliens are our holy grail. I want it, but i son't expect to get it.
INTERVIEWER: What qualifies you for this position?
ROBIN: There are creatures out there you couldn't image, let alone understand. Do you know how I talk to them?
INTERVIEWER: I think you correlate responses againt stimuli and-
ROBIN: I do what they do. If they bathe in liquid nitrogen and talk with their feet, i put on a coat and i pull a handstand. But this recruitment process? It's the most alien of all. So I#m trying to correlate my responses here. I want us to understand each other. Put me on that planet, I'll zalk with the fish for you.
INTERVEWER: Thank you, Miss Goodall. Sandra - Sandra?! - Sandra will show you out. Sandra?!
Early Access Feb. 2019 - 9892
Profile: Research Station Zero
Welcome to your home away from home on 4546B. This pamphlet will guide you through your new accommodation.
Get Your Bearings:
Zero sector is comprised of 2 square kilometers of ocean, located near the planet's equator. Unusual environmental condistions leave this area in almost permanent winter, interrupted by extreme weather events. For unknown reasons it was selected by the aliens as a hub for their installations. Life in the area has flourished since the release of enzyme 42 into the larger ecosystem.
Research Station Zero:
You have been posted to the main sector base, located on a large ice cap in the west, just below the primary alien research site. From here you will conducts research into alien communications and technologies, and condusct away missions to unmanned installations elsewhere in the sector.
Facilities:
- 3-6 person accommodation
- Full science and engineering section
- Leisure and exercise facilities
- Large growroom and water filtration unit for self-sufficient living
- Weather forecatsing suite
- Prawn bay
old version of Guide: Research Station Zero
Robin Goodall - Research Notes (broken PDA entry)
43789314876 4689432 46303646 4263784
Task List
- Harvest edibles from growbeds and plant new seed - TODO
- Translate symbols on alien artifacts 7 & 10 - IN PROGRESS
- Send completed research samples to vesper via rocket - DONE
- Continue investigation of the forcefield mechanisms at research site Zero - IN PROGRESS
- Send weekly status report - IN PROGRESS
- Varnish prawn suits - TODO
- Repair weather station - TODO
- Perform monthly patrol of remote installations - TODO
- test whether pengwing flock are comfortable enough to swim with humans - DONE (Yes!)
- Induct new support personnel - TODO
old version of current PDA of the same name
omg aight i cant do all of them rn
but it seems many of the pda linked on the wiki but not in the databank are from that old build
like the claim for sam and robins mom beeing dead
or Scott III the planet
all from the early access build but seemingly someone deleted them from the wiki
and jeff from later builds was called Jo Jeffreys back then
ive been made aware that theta is more likely to be the ancient skeleton rather than the biter/sandshark cousin in drf
i feel like thats something that should be changed
theta is listed as being on an "offsite lab" to study its remains, the sandshark/biter cousin in drf died during the collapse of drf, so no remains and its on-site
fandom has broken when i made an account send help
this doesnt look right
i dont know how to change the wiki and im scared of doing it wrong but the whole theta thing being wrong is really bugging me 
i keep getting this stupid "header overflow"
styling has left the chat
Its better if you make the edit, then if there are any fixes to be made someone else can improve upon it.
wish i could but yk, the image above
If it's still there now, try [[Special:Contact]] and letting staff know about this bug.
change is mostly finished
only the page name and info box missing and one image name
#đwiki-changes message
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cyclops
I made a small edit today, hope this is helpful
Yâall still run on fandom? I thought everyone hated it Iâm confused
letâs not go thereâŚ
Is it possible to put mods on xbox ?
No. Mods are PC-only.
tl;dr, devs want the quote from fandom on their site saying the game is good and the existing wiki folks are against moving the content, so, it seems unlikely anyone will do anything at least until the next game comes out
(not "going there" in the sense of arguing the decision should be changed, since like I said I don't think anyone's mind would be changed, but was frustrated how much I had to interrogate folks for an answer so I think it's at least fair to say why)
Enough has been spoken on the subject. Yes, we have had shifts in opinions throughout the year, but at the end of the day: Subnautica wiki is staying on fandom, with the below zero element. Itâs a complete content wiki and thereâs no reason to move it. Thats all that needs to be said on the subject
I mean, I read those pins before I asked initially, and the reason why I asked was because I felt the explanation that's pinned is insufficient. as I said, having a longstanding relationship with fandom is not sufficient because they have shown to have a longstanding abusive relationship with many communities, which is why those communities have moved. additionally, the "wiki is done" statement will no longer apply once the sequel comes out, and that further makes it unsatisfactory of an answer.
I don't think that your reasoning is invalid, nor do I intend to try and change anyone's mind. I just think that your decision deserves a better explanation than "we made our decision and are tired of people asking about it"
As mentioned in my previous message, a lot of opinions have shifted over the year.
Compared to the original pin, our sentiments towards fandom have changed. You can read up the chats to find these discussions as I do not feel a need to revisit them.
At the end of the day, subnautica wiki and below zero are complete wikis with small communities. The wiki content is mostly done, we have no reason to spend the effort to migrate.
The stance currently on the sequel is uncertain. Personally I do not believe fandom will be used for the sequel. However, Subnautica 2âs wiki platform will probably be a group decision when the time comes. So nothing I say is set in stone
If you want to know the sentiments on the sequel, and what wiki platform should be used for that, the conversation happened back around in February, check for keywords like âwiki.ggâ or âforkingâ in the search option for this channel.
right, as I said, I entirely agree with the ultimate reasoning behind the decision, I just think that it's much better of an explanation to point out that the nuance between the relationship with fandom, the devs' desire to maintain a positive rapport with fandom (despite the wiki not being directly connected with the devs), and the fact that very few wiki edits will be done until the sequel comes out, is a substantially better explanation than just "we don't want to move and the wiki is done," because the immediate response to "we don't want to move is" well, there are plenty of other wiki folks who have moved other communities who would be more than willing to help with that
âThe we do not want to moveâ pin is definitely dated in terms of sentiments. However the overall point that thereâs no plans on moving the current wiki is the same. Because of that, I didnât edit or update the post
that's incredibly fair, and considering the fact that the decision is done, you don't have to
Mhm, if youâd like to be a part of future involvement in subnautica wiki for the sequel, I can mark your name down and keep you updated when the time comes.
certainly; I've been paying attention to this channel occasionally for that reason :p
basically, I think that if we want a more satisfying answer to moving from fandom that's still simple, "we'll wait until the sequel is closer to release to figure this out"
since, I think that separating out sequel content from base game content would be similarly bad for the same reasons why forking the existing content would be bad
I agree, but at the moment we donât have a concrete stance on anything. We do not know how a future decision to stray away from fandom will be interpreted by UWE/Krafton.
right, I'm just saying that the big point is we're not even considering such a discussion until the sequel is closer to release
so, whether that discussion is worth having or not, it's not happening for now
The discussion has already happened,
Again, circa Feb 2024.
(Or was it January? I canât remember).
oh I know, just, I was under the impression that people were very mixed on the subject of whether sequel content should be on fandom, and that there wasn't a consensus there
the consensus was just for existing content
We have a general consensus. But when the time comes we will decide if weâre going to cement any plans into motion
agreed there
sorry, as I've said, I do agree that the existing decisions are quite valid and I'm still not trying to change any minds here, so, I don't want to argue with you since that'd be counterproductive
I'm still only operating on the limited information I gathered from folks after the discussion happened
However I will say, I do not believe we are forking from fandom.
Many of the admins on SN wiki have been there for years, myself included, and leaving it on fandom gives us the access to keep maintaining it as we see fit. Forking Subnautica wiki over elsewhere means complete re-assignment for administration on fandom Subnautica wiki.
However, where subnautica 2 wiki is should not affect that, as we want it to be a separate entity. Regardless if itâs fandom or not.
oh, I wasn't aware that that was the plan; I thought that it was still desirable to keep them together
I guess we still don't know how similar the games will be with such limited information on it still
The merging of below zero and subnautica wiki caused a lot of problems related to editing, fixing pages and templates. Itâs an undesirable situation we were pushed into. And would rather not deal with again.
As for subnautica 2, itâs confirmed itâs an entirely new alien planet
And we expect there would be enough substantial changes to warrant it existing as a separate wiki
fair enough
Considering 2025 is a long ways away, everything is up to change. And we do not want to finalize any plans yet until early access is available. By that time we can review our plans, see if anything needs appending, re-analyze which platform to go with. And understand how much support we will receive.
agreed
i dont know if is the right place for asking this question there but do we have any more information about subnautice 2 (sry for my bad english i am french XD)
This isn't the right place, please ask in #off-topic or #subnautica-chat
thanks bro !
Leviathan Trench (Cut Content)
I was recentlly browsing a subnautica iceberg, and came across an intriguing piece of information on the bottom of it - leviathan trech. I tried to do research, but only found a few reddit threads asking the same questing. Can anyone help?
P.S. I couldn't find it on the wiki
Any cut content that didnât appear in a public build is something we canât log on the wiki
Thereâs a lot of leaked and cut story bits that were exclusive to private builds that we cannot implement onto the wiki
yeah, leaked stuff on the wiki is a big no-no; if the devs choose to publicly talk about it, that's one thing, but if it's private info that's not something the wiki has the right to include
itâs on the below zero cut content page
That was quite the edit đ
And there goes another one
Ok thanks. Sorry if I gave you trouble I was just wondering because I saw a video about how fandom was a terrible place to be but if thatâs where you guys feel comfortable then thatâs fine
@heady gulch @cinder kestrel ^ fyi
Iâm also on Firefox. It says error on all media players.
(This is not the media player that caused it, it was in the dialogue page, though it was on the same PDA quote) I tried chrome and safari, and no luck (no scam website either) it appears to be some issue with IOS not accepting the format or something
what format are they uploaded as? MP3?
ahh, appears to be OGG
iOS not supporting OGG is mostly due to Apple being stubborn; I believe that all browsers except Safari should support it
very weird that it's failing for you in Firefox
Recent change in Cuddlefish page. Wasn't it obvious? Why remove it?
Something like that would need a source tbh
Alright, that's fair.
The wiki says there's a chance for large kyanite deposits to drop zero kyanite, but I've been told that 2.0 changed this so that you always get at least one
You're right, I'll see if I can edit it.
Thousand edits later, the values are correct again. Sorry.
were there any other 2.0 changes that were missed? or was that the thousand edits you were referring to
No, I kept making mistakes while editing the pages.
oh, that's understandable too
But yes, there are more edits I might've missed, I'll fix em up when I find them.
very fair
There's also much straight up wrong info that I'm not aware
cough cough old infection page cough
I really do need to get a PC that can handle Subnautica, I'll be playtesting so much.
There is a preview feature for when you're using the source editor, but it seems you were using the visual editor.
I know, I was using both. It's just that the information I was putting there was still wrong, or I forgot to edit the other part of the page, or forgot there was another page.
very easy to forget things, especially if you don't edit often. it's understandable
usually go easier on folks who just keep forgetting the scope of their edit or who want to super verify the data, compared to people who just don't read what they wrote and make 50 typos in 60 edits
I want my edits to be correct. It's kind of the reason why I decided to help out on the wiki.
I have no idea how to add anything to any wiki, but Iâm replaying BZ on PS5 since trophies donât seem to transfer between PS4 and PS5 (lol) and I just noticed the BZ Architect structures page doesnât list either the Arch (principal) in Arctic Spires (which has an elevator that leads to the underground dock) or the Arch (Auxiliary) located in Phi Robotics.
guys pls dont beat me up if im wrong but i think these two leviathan concepts are misisng from the concept art page
and i dont have a fandom account
I don't think anyone would be upset about that. I don't recognize the first one, and I don't think the wiki has the second, although it might have a very similar piece.
Where did you find those?
one of the art desginer guys post on twitter
which now that i think about it prob isnt very reliable
If it's on Alex Ries's page, it's probably legitimate. I don't know how the licencing works, though
good point
yeah, need permission from the artist to add it on the wiki
Could someone edit the wiki entry for dialogue? Its missing one of the dialogue options for AL-AN asking Robin to go to the fabricator - if you have been to the fabricator, (not sure whether it makes a difference if you went with al-an or not) then al-an will give slightly different dialogue
Eyo so maybe some of the recent changes to the safe shallows page are a little redundant? Like shuttle bugs for example I'd imagine weren't mentioned because they appear on the safe shallows caves page and they only appear in the caves? Similar for like sandstone outcrops in the safe shallows, etc are caves-exclusive just my thoughts
Want to mention that I DO understand that the "caves" of any given biome are not separate biomes, but they do have separate pages, I feel like Fauna should definitely be different because mesmers only spawn in kelp forest CAVES not kelp forests, etc. and having sandstone outcrops mentioned the same way in safe shallows as in grassy plat seems counterintuitive when there's like 5 sandstone outcrops in the safe shallows lol
Feel lke that's needlessly pedantic tbh
I mean, to be a wiki editor you do have to be a bit pedantic sometimes
but also I'm not exactly sure what the complaint is here
I think the suggestion is that creatures and objects that are only found in a biome's caves should be listed in a different place from those found throughout.
ah, fair; I guess that putting the common ones in the shallows made sense only because it doesn't have any special stuff besides, I guess the kelp forests
which is technically Not The Shallows
Hey guys?
I have a question
Kind of a "what should I do question"
I'm nearing the end of subnautica and I only recently built a Cyclops. but since I have all the materials i need, I can also ||build the rocket and escape the planet|| so I was wondering if I should level up my Cyclops before I do that just to use it and have fun with it or should I just beat the game and just ignore my Cyclops?
happens all the time. Im used to it lol
But I really have no idea what to do
this is the correct page
Gotcha, thank you
@limber parrot did you find a link that lead you to the blank page
I just looked up "the architects subnautica" it was the first result
Guys, is this concept art from the game "Sabnatika" or "Sabnatika Below Zero"?
Below 0
it was originally drawn as concept art for the first Subnautica but went unused in that game, they reused the idea for Below Zero
ty
Same with the spiral/twisty biome ( I donât play BZ )
and the Spinnerfish which comes from the Sand Shark concept art
and the Glow Whales
a few things
hello
The Below Zero Seabases page still has the old solar panel/thermal plant/nuclear reactor icons. I don't have the new ones, so maybe if someone else has, please fix đ thank you
Hey, thought I'd talk about this here since I just was made aware of this, and am working to quickly throw together a solution. At some point something happened with the Subnautica Trellos, not sure if this extends to them all, but at the bare minimum the Subnautica Done Trello is now gone, and with the wiki having often sourced that page, thats a really big problem.
Thankfully I have an archive of the whole thing, which I had taken a while back, but its still a really big problem.
Is there anyone who is a major editor of the wiki who might be able to discuss and assist with this issue?
What is trellos
Trello is a visual work management tool.
@summer kindle Hey Gemma, may I ask you something? How do I revert a change?
They're talking about a bug as if it was a feature
Oh no. I found the button. Sorry for bothering you.
all good
I just pressed random buttons accidentally and now it is all of a sudden zoomed in?
I tried refreshing the tab
standard browser behavior, you probably pressed ctrl + (or cmnd + on mac), try ctrl - or ctrl 0
just a heads up to editors.
people are allowed to mention bugs for subnautica on their respective pages
the stipulation about bug mentions on the pages was removed by tueman a while ago. only on below zero pages we don't allow bug reporting
We do have a dedicated bug section where it can be placed
Instead of middle of an article
Yes I was thinking about telling that person that we could add a bugs section, but I only got home now 
But certain creatures one-shot the player for seemingly no reason at all.
Warpers do it too.
fixed, thank you
You can also press ctrl and use the scroll wheel on your mouse
thats kinda funny tho
Especially in hard-core. And funnily enough, these creatures are all in the ending area.
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Are the Precursor Fish Skeleton, Lab Cache Container 1, Lab Cache Container 2, Lab Table, Scanner, Sensor, Sea Dragon Skeleton and Warper in BZ's cut content page really cut things for the game? Going off of their names, they seem to be set pieces for the Lost River cache and Disease Research Facility. https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cut_Content_(Below_Zero)
not spawnable in either
just gives an error
def bz, original called them Architects
aswell as prob left over assets
@sharp oak was it ever fixed that the pages Robin and sam linked cut pages (even some removed from the wiki) and had cut info on them on their past?
or is that rewrite still needed, have some time later
this is normal becouse frist it would be insteand the small flouting islands
excacly
That conversation was a month ago...
But it was also less than 50 messages ago.
Likewise, what you said was the previous message, even if it was from more than four days ago.
i just noticed that there's a sn2 page up on the wiki
@steel knot you might wanna share with the wikikeepers your discovery
oh yeah good idea. anyone in particular I should talk to, do you think?
o7
if nobody does i can ping andy
Teaser 1 with the leaves means 'water', teaser 2 with the body means 'slug', teaser 3 with the face means 'waterslug'.
oh also user @clear comet brought the first capsule teaser to the community's attention over in the modding discord.
yeah that's a teaser too
Theres also the start of each
Man. Seeing that recent wiki edit over the Spoiler Temple realizing that the text was supposed to be centered this entire time but never was because someone used the UK spelling (centre) is funny
lol
[[Special:Diff/209815]]
Yeah. Kinda obvious
So the wiki says i need 2 purple tablets and an ion cube for the lava castle, is that accurate or is it missing something? Also i always thought I'd need only 1 blue tablet?
Both of those are accurate
Nice
And do you know if there is an ion cube in the lava castle or only the big deposit?
No just the big one
There are cubes in the PCF, but not in the lava castle.
Ah perfect thank you! Don't wanna go on trips without the right stuff with me
One Blue Tablet is needed to gain entrance to the facility, and a second one is used to unlock the Moonpool room. However, only one Blue Tablet is available for pickup from the Alien Thermal Plant. It is craftable after the player either picks this Blue Tablet up, or scans it.
is anyone going to add the waterslug info to the sn2 page?
Oh ya! Please do this or i wanna see if i can at least its super interesting!
I posted a little thing of it in the wiki please lmk if I messed anything up!
the image?
Whats wrong with it?
no im not saying theres anythinf wrong with it
im asking if the image is the slug or whatever
cause he said âinfoâ so in wondering if im missibf something
Oh yes the image is the waterslug
kk â¤ď¸
Hope I didn't mess up anything as I've never edited on fandom wiki, but made an edit on planet 4546b's page after someone changed it to planet steve multiple times through the wiki article.
Unless there is some new lore about it being called Steve- But can't find any resources mentioning that 
usually we just use the undo option. it gets harder when its a large string of edits though.
Ah, didn't realize that was an option. Does seem quite useful, espeically when people vandalize. Thanks for letting me know :D
IS this where I can ask about a correction needed on the Fandom Wiki?
Sure
I'll work on it as soon as possible, unless someone faster than me 
If it's subnautica fandom yeah.
I figured out the problem, the Wiki is correct. I learned that You need to have your Seamoth Depth Module in Inventory or the option for upgrading to Mk 2 just wont appear in the Modification Station options.
Ah, I see. The wiki being correct, I love hearing that. Mostly due to how rare that used to be đĽ˛
Not a feature I like. I thought it couldnt be crafted so I went around finding the Vehicle Upgrade Console.
Wiki is my best friend, thank you to anyone who maintains or contributes !! â¤ď¸
Ah alright. Glad the wikis acurate.
You're welcome. If you think the Wiki is wrong, you can always ask in #subnautica-chat and we'll verify it.
Does anyone remember the infection page, haha... yea.......
How bad was it?????
It was copy pasted from a Reddit post. I'm sure you can guess how bad that is...
Ah alright. Reddit is the last source I would copy and paste.
Ignis helped a ton, but it was still a lot of work. I saved the original version in a random folder. For fun.
@fresh basin May I DM you đđ
Yeah sure, I think I need to send a friend request tho, idk. Try dming me.
I can't send it
I think that worked.
why cuddlefish?
why would they not put a image for the cuddlefish D:
Could i see an ss of it?
Ummmm is not mine lamo early art of subnatica think god they change it
Now I feel dumb, thx for telling me, was wondering why he was exploding
lol is alr
Same
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@ivory steppe undo the change please
the same vandal removed a chunk of the page
I'll ban them when I get to my laptop
Done. It seems like the vandal doesn't understand that modded content isn't canon.
Did someone put modded content on the wiki?
I'll give them a benefit of the doubt of
"They're just a little stupid".
because the visual editor does not meld well with the tabbers, and editing them through visual editor can be. well. last I checked it just doesnt work out nicely. I warned them with a day long block and told them the next time it happens, it'll be a week instead.
Thank you âĽď¸
I think this has to be updated because of below zero
Is that the Subnautica wiki segment or Below Zero?
Because they're two different pages, I think
It had both sector zero and the crater in it so idk
The pages were being merged
Oh my, "were" meaning they didn't finish it
Oh
I blocked the vandal indefinitely.
yeah
that was the original crashfish concept art
the devs consider it cute, and so a new concept was made, the old one became cuddlefish. this can be found in trivia sections on the wiki :)
Just made a short version of transfuser on polish fandom
Alguien que hable espaĂąol?
#off-topic, and English only please (hablas ingles, por favor)
Personal preference, but I think putting in https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Jellyshroom_Caves should direct the user to https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Jellyshroom_Cave
I get that it's a singular cave, but it'd be nice to have.
im pretty sure theres a mistake in the wiki
its about the nuclear reactor
it says you can find its frags in mountains, blood kelp trench and sea treaders path but you can find them in dunes too
i was playing today and i got my blueprint from a wreck in the dunes
does "wrecks" count as that? dont know much about wiki
im pretty sure they count because it says you can find the frags in wrecks in the mountains
if its limited to dunes wrecks i thought one of the locations being called "wrecks" would include the dunes
most likely not i guess
wouldnt make sense to just say wrecks though
wouldnt that be kinda dumb because if it just says wrecks you could be looking in the safe shallows
yeah
probably isnt meant to be like that
yeah
I'll look into it
nice
found something i think new
the starting suit in BZ should prob be split from the page for the subnautica one
as the first games's is Alterra made but the one in BZ is mentioned as XenoWorx property
a creator isnt stated
Did you make the vehicles thing?
on the alterra page? yes
You could revert the change, the vehicles are already in the products section
well they produce vehicles they dont use aswell tho
Hm, it gets repetitive
like the sunbeam
They sell the vehicles as products
The products section already includes all the vehicles, and it's right before
yes but products and vehicles they use for themselve arent the same thing
I'm just worried about the repetitiveness, maybe the vehicles should go away from the products section, and the vehicles section would go above it
they also have vehicles they use that arent clearly marked as made by them
like the Forkliftsä
ill put a split for the AEP suits on my backlog for the maybes btw
as the BZ one is , unlike the original one, not marked as alterra made in any way
and even if it is, its diffrent suits
the BZ one is the Beta of the Mk.III AEP
There is an old story page, somewhere
i remember the time Robin and sam pages still had the old story mixed in, same for the planets
not sure if its there anymore but the alterra page had a ref to a deleted databank entry
oh lol it is
i just left it in to not forget to legacy it later
Sandra, a alterra employee is in a vesper entry but someone delete it from the wiki
Iâll let these edits pass
The alterra pages and storying pages need refurbishing
I already tried to tune up storyline page by including the alterra lore into the âbefore the events of Subnauticaâ section
Truthfully it would be nice if there was more contexts to work with for the alterra page and storyline page
And I do not believe their page (alterra) has been adequately updated to accommodate for below zero, their involvement, and mission
Hey guys
I have a question
If the alien weapon shoots down all ships in the planet's orbit
So would it be safe to land on the opposite side of the planet?
Unless there is another gun over there that we donât know about. Nothing in game says that was the only weapon.
@sterile veldt
One of the databank entries you find states the beam can bend around the planet.
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Quarantine_Enforcement_Platform#Data_Bank_Entries
Specifically Energy Core
The aurora was on some kind of mission on the planet or just passed by
This is channel is generally more for talking about the wiki itself btw. Not asking questions.
it curves with the planets curvature
wich is why it was able to hit the Mercury II aswell, in the arctic biom
it does seem to fire via heat guide
as the mercury II crew avoided the first shot via all of the ships flares
that would also explain why disabling the gun is enought to stop the quarantine
its heat guided not connected to the other facilities in its command
wich is why its enough to activate the console with a cured body
the ONLY thing keeping up the quarantine is the gun lol
everything else we ever see or hear off is either
Research
Containement
data storage
or the Gate Facilitiy in BZ
Reminder this is wiki discussion.
primitive, we use the Electrical telegraph to send messages these days.
slingshot manoeuvre
To go faster to like explore exoplanets I think?
it uses the planets gravity to increase speed
and it would allow them to get closer to try spot survivors from the degasi as that was the secret mission
Ohhh yeah
Secondary doesn't mean secret. Nobody was interested in the Degasi other than the Mongolians
False. Alterra was interested in buying the degasi
Huh?
Where does that come from?
Last I read, they were scanning for them as a favor to the Mongolians, since the Degasi was a Mongolian ship given to Torgal Corp. Alterra and the Mongolians have ties and Alterra would like to keep them, as explained by Keen
They were uninterested in finding the Degasi, they just wanted to show the others that they tried.
it was to improve relations yes
It makes no sense for Alterra to want an old, Mongolian ship
Not when they can fabricate something like the Neptune rocket so easily.
@sharp oak i found info in a pda explaining sooo much
first off the Aurora was sent only after the crew not the ship
aaand
the reason why the submarines and the all terrain vehicles were onboard was the degasi rescue
Aren't they just scanning for life signs?
the reason why the Prawn, cyclops and seamoth were chosen is that they were fit for aquatic planets
Aurora Auxiliary Mission Orders
that pda entry says they packed the all terrain / water vehicles for the search & rescue
cuz the last know position of the degasi was near the Planet
so the packed the stuff cuz if they were alive theyd be eaither drifting in space or crashed there
What pda is that?
the one i said
@heady gulch have an idea with the vehicle section idea i added
what do you think bout marking down what alterra teams use them
aight
what about a list of cargo on the Aurora
like the phasegate stuff and the vehicles we know the packed for the mission (in the pda i mentioned earlier)
@heady gulch noticed something and need confirmation
the pda in BZ speaks from XenoWorx point of view so stuff mentioned relates to their info right
''PDA: Equipped with only a booster tank, Dr. Felicity Aman once escaped the underwater acid tentacle forest on planet Alpha671''
when crafting a booster tank
with how it ''advertises'' the tank. it seems to me like its talking about one of their employees
similar to how tzhe alterra PDA informs us about the alterra restriction on knives in the fabricators
Why is the braincoral (The one that gives you 02) not listed in Flora?
Coral is not flora in real life. To my knowledge, it's not flora in-game, either.
It's in the Coral section
Ah ok and where am i able to find this named section?
Indigenous lifeforms, above Fauna and Flora
okay so something I should probably be clear on.
Lets not Use: cut content, as part of the alterra page. Unless it exists in a final build in some meaningful fashion. Anything that is cut we treat as non-valid unless proven otherwise.
Anything unidentified should not be included either.
so that means all unidentified shareholders, employees, etc.
the only cut stuff i have still on are one employee and the shuttle wich ill remove again
please remove anything marked as unidentified, anything or anyone named is okay.
all employees i added are the ones mentioned in pdas like the 2 employees in the scanner room and the confirmed people in lifepods
like the employee and passanger in pod 6
on top of that. There's too much information in these.
whos been adding the unidentified people?
alright, information on a page is helpful. but a lot of this is just a list of names thats dwarfing the page.
anyone unnamed or unidentified provides no trivia or informational benefit to a reader.
not sure how exactly it works but there is a way to have diffrent sections of a page show up in a diffrent style
id have to look it up first tho
I think the effort to include these details is well intended. But this is not a viable implementation.
If you'd like to include a lot of the forgotten names of the employees and assets from the series, it has to be presenting information. not a running list.
could shorten it maybe, like with the mining crew, instead of listing all, just list one and add how many we know off
tabbers allow you to make different tabs to store information or details.
but take inspiration from the aurora page.
If you want to present information, please try to give context to it.
we could make pages for the diffrent job things libe a tabber for the aurora crew and one for the mining crew and stuff like that
for example. you can refit this into a section about the aurora crew, provide a link to the name (as you do here), and a brief sentence that describes their role.
Although many employees of Alterra's premiere flagship are unknown, all were declared lost with the ship; [Start going into information about certain people like the captain, second officer.]```
and you don't need a paragraph per person.
its best to include 1-3 sentences on what role they played in the game.
brief and to the point, so they can get a more descript version by checking the person's actual page
ill prepare stuff for that and get back to you
like second officer keen is a great example. you dont have to have his life story or details on the exact roles he played. Just include what is important in the context to the player. An example would be the post-crash.
id just add thats hes the second officer n stuff for the role desc
Instead of running with all employees, go with the notable ones who have a documented importance of some kind. You'll know if its important if it influences the story, or is meant to have an influence on player decisions.
its just an information overload atm of names and non-essentials.
and other information like this.
some parts like this can be integrated with the lore of the main page.
The current president of the Alterra Corporation is Indra Cormac[reference link]. You could just leave it as that because there might not be much info available about them to begin with. But that is notable to the lore of the alterra page.
and another thing.
the product list is redundant.
Nearly everything you can contruct in-game, was conceived, buit, and proof-of-concept run by alterra.
yeah but not all things are confirmed to be alterra how ever weird that may feel
you could simplify the section down too:
Although Alterra plays a backseat role in the story (something to get the point across they're not holding your hand or pushing the plot forward themselves), their namesake can be found on nearly all human built technology. This is a reminder of their influence as one of the largest spacefaring tech suppliers.
Rough idea, dont do it word for word
because them being one of the largest suppliers is mentioned in the databank entry on the page. So that easily works out fine.
But is gets the point across better than a list of every item and creation alterra has made which shows up in-game.
thats true, but the few things that arent confirmed, aren't significant enough to warrant an endless list recounting nearly every human built tech in both games.
i checked and ive actually listed every truly confirmed product rn
which is great btw, but that's better suited for a record or community compiled databank. The point of the wiki is to show information from the game or series, contextualize it and explain it as best as we can for a reader. So any curiosities from finding items - to obscure lore, can be a reach away.
I love the incentive, but listing everything meticulously is the wrong approach.
im used wikis that add every piece of lore
Anime... Why. On. Subnautica.
Because obviously Riley is an Anime Otaku or whatever.
I don't think the added information in the pages is very important. It's like saying "this material is important" when all of them are. Rollback?
Done
Screenshots on the table coral seem to confuse people.
So I made new ones, if you want to change them.
I will change them when I get the chance. Thanks, Ignis!
such beauty...
Its because Fandom itself is a bad site to host stuff on
They'll insert random other Fandoms to try to intend you to get interest but the Fandom they show is never similar to the one you're already looking at
This is new, right?
It's for Halloween
And unrelated to the wiki.
why cant i see how much does cooked fauna give to my hunger bar...well not just that but there are also no pages for cooked fauna...
Cooked Fauna don't have a separate page because you just check the corresponding fauna page
I.e. check Peeper page for cooked peeper values
ah...i am stupid
That was a lot of edits, and there's still much to do.
I don't have BZ for PC, so I can't see the exact speeds. I hope someone here volunteers to screenshot every possible swim speed in BZ--
Oh, don't mind it at all. Feel free to DM me the spam
44 total edits from my account, omw to be #1 contributor!
Who is the number 1?
I don't think I can check that. My guess is SLScool.
I'm in 19th place.
Welp. . .
If you ignore the eight bots, I'm in 11th.
How do you see this?
[[Special:ListUsers]]
Click the "Edits" cell to sort by edits--once for fewest edits and once for most edits.
That's about 103 people to ban.
A worthy sacrifice
Fndj
yes
yes
Wiki discussion is for wiki discussions, begone
Looks like weâre gonna be very busy next year
time to make non Fandom wiki for SN 2
Yippe!

I love your PFP!!
<3
i always loved the short animation that is in the...uhhh...cover thingy (i have no idea how its called)
Banner
What's going on?
Oh, Subnautica 2. That's cool.
Weird. After the release of that trailer, the Subnautica 2 wiki page had a handful of edits. I wonder why. 
Ah yes, thank you
quite a rich chat history
I hope we can start contributing for the SN2 wiki once it's out (in EA)
also, not on Fandom nor Fextralife
both those sites suck
we've already discussed alternatives
sweet!
Not sure we reached a conclusion but nobody is in favor of using Fandom again
But it's easiest to use
wiki.gg hosts MediaWiki sites about common-interest topics. With over 800 wikis and an indie, editors-first mindset, we're a great place to host your wiki and we'd love to have you!
have people looked into this?
I've heard good things about it and seen some nice wiki made using it
example
Yes, wiki.gg was discussed
I think everyone is aware of the alternatives, the conversation was already a while go
All good, just letting you know that we know
unfortunately, there's barely any information about anything, and we don't enjoy putting speculation on the wiki
oh I'm not saying now, certainly not when all we've got are a few pics and a teaser video
for now, we'll focus on correcting all the information on the SN and BZ wikis
well then, I'll try my best to contribute once the official SN2 wiki has been established đ
It's been years but trust me, I just had to make a major edit on swimming speed and fins
There's still a lot to be done
I will notify you with any updates you might be interested, regarding the new wiki
I'm planning to become a playtester too, so that would be great ye
This series has been in the back of my mind for quite some time now
Life's just been too hectic for me to dedicate myself to a videogame again
Subnautica wiki is mostly undergoing correction and cleanups to make sure everything is up to date. some things were shaken up by merging below zero and subnautica wiki a few years ago.
Subnautica 2 and how it'll be handled is still to be decided. no concrete answers yet.
I mean fandom sucks but moving the whole wiki over wouldnt be fun
I think we came to the decision that we won't move the SN and BZ wikis, because even if we tried, we would never be #1 result on Google. It's a lot of effort and Google would lead people elsewhere.
You see there is a method
No, Minecraft took way too long to get there, with a ton of help.
And ive seen it happen in real time with a mod for terraria called calamity
Its called significant vandalism
(This wont work for most people)
(This is a really stupid nonfunctional idea that happened to work one time and isnt worth the effort)
You don't understand. If we vandalize the wiki, people won't move to the new one, they'll just have a bad experience, potentially hurting the game. It'd only work if the new wiki was easily accessible, but Google takes a while to put results at the top of the list.
Minecraft took way too long to [the top of Google results]
And we still don't even know how its view count compares to the Fandom wiki's.
Im fully aware thats why i said it doesnt work
Well, I suppose I know, along with anyone whom the other admin chose to share the view count with.
Can you say if the view count is good?
minecraft.wiki has a public count at https://metrics.weirdgloop.org/d/c56ea030-ae96-41b9-85e9-0fe2a2600510/wiki-analytics?var-domain=minecraft.wiki. Fandom restricts its counts so only admins can see them with a "Information on this page is shared as a courtesy for our administrators and should not be re-shared without permission" at the top of the page that I follow as strictly as I follow the forking policy.
For cal? Yes, i can, because i was one of the group who got to mess with it when fandom treated the people who made the wiki poorly
A group of around 300 people with too much time on their hands is a terrifying force
I was obviously talking about the Minecraft wiki--
Well im stupid so đ
(I was unsure)
Aren't we all...
A group of around 300 people
That's more than what minecraft.fandom.com saw at almost every point in time over the last 13 months.
When Phoenix SC made a video about vandalism on the wiki, lots of people started vandalizing it. We probably got to more than 300 vandals at that time. That would be the only time, though.
Be fully aware that i dont think yall should move the wiki im saying that specific instance happened and was funny
So what's the most likely platform for sn2s wiki
As Mother Andy mentioned, we discussed this a while ago. It was towards the end of February this year.
I don't remember our opinions on each potential platform were, though.
We discussed alternatives but didn't reach a conclusion because it's still too early
Sad I wanted definite answers
Yall should let me be king of the wiki keepers so the answer is easier
What would your answer be? wikipedia.com?
wikipedia.com?
Living in a redirect to wikipedia.org sounds exciting.
I did not suggest moving the current wikis to wiki.gg
just SN2 being made using that site

can you all stop fantasizing over mass vandalism on subnautica wiki.
we've had this conversation like 10 times except with different people each time
I don't get why ppl even suggest this
What do they suggest?
vandalizing the current SN and BZ wikis
Bruh why do they wanna do that?
beats me honestly
moving the subnautica and below zero wikis is a stupid idea
creating the SN2 wiki elsewhere makes sense
It's by no means against the rules for the community to take the initiative and do such if they want
Well, I look at it from the perspective of readers, and Fandom has the worst reader experience. So I think moving/forking is a great idea, since most large Gamepedia wikis already did.
But that's my two cents on the topic
the point is the fandom one will continue to exist and be where everyone goes still
itâs not worth the effort
That's just the wrong attitude, the Minecraft Wiki is overcoming that hurdle, so it wouldn't be impossible.
And it's not like the current wiki is in an amazing or final state where the content is set in stone.
It is possible to get the community to leave Fandom. But the process is very long and hard. I know from experience.
Could you link the new article in all the old articles to transfer? Would that work?
You aren't allowed to link to a non fandom site on pages, it goes against TOS
(Even in the event the gaming company has their own official wiki, the fandom one can't link to it)
What's the punishment?
They launch you into Venus
Really, it depends on who did it. If the staff of wiki support it. They remove staff from them all and elect new staff
Fandom killed off Gamepedia and almost all Gamepedia wikis forked, the Fandom wikis are now run by a skeleton crew of people who either furiously try to upkeep the wiki or leave it in a dishevelled appearance.
Fandom is overall just an asbolute dumpster fire, and I'd really love the idea of the wiki moving to another site, but I do need to agree that it would be an extremely tedious task.
Its unfortunately a situation of "We have this wiki using a site that is extremely terrible user experience wise and can barely even be read through without an adblocker, but if we move off it would take forever, require an extreme amount of resources and man power, and overall would just take forever."
Heck, with Subnautica 2 rolling around I argue that would make the idea of moving to another wiki even worse.
No longer would it just be a situation of moving the wiki to a new site and porting all the info while ocasionally adding in new bits here and there, soon it would turn into a situation of having to constantly update the new wiki with all the new information recieved while porting stuff from the old wiki.
Depending on how long the port would take and when Subnautica 2 goes into early access, I do suppose it could work, but its a really big risk, and thats just ONE possible example of the many different problems this kind of project could face.
If you're gonna do it, now's the time, before any new info is out
You could make idk
the company name.org then its the official wiki and move it there
What was the company behind everything again
Unknown worlds
I meant in canon
It would only take a few weeks to accomplish a move.
Alterra
Nahhh just let me move them /j
Honestly, private hosting isn't a bad option, I did that with a Roblox Wiki.
Wouldn't that involve the wiki being held on a personal server you personally have to maintain
Yeah, but that's not hard.
Riot is paying for LoL's wiki hosting
Not hard but you have to pay for the electricity and any maintenance costs
So would unknown be willing to make a deal?
Prob not
Fair
I pay $50 a month for a VPS to host my wiki, and maintenance is handled by me and the company I pay for the VPS from.
Ohhh okay gotcha
when will we see more screenshots of subnautica 2 in the wiki đ
How does someone become a wiki keeper btw?
Just repeated well done edits and entries?
You want to be orange?
Once a year during a full moon we do battles in an active volcano to decide the next wiki keeper.
You get tickets to enter based on a good edit history
So in other words, good edit history and a want for the position
Yes
I'm gonna become the god of the wiki
See, I won the last round. It was fun.
What happened to your enemies?
Why do you think the Volcano hasn't erupted yet?
I understand... a worthy sacrifice
exactly what he said. its a ceremonial ritual that's performed only during a supermoon rising above a volcano
But weapons have been banned from the fabricator so what's the contest?
Hand to hand, bloodshed is blood shared
improvised fighting with spears. you're allowed to use anything accessible to build one. stalker teeth, alterran knives, light sticks with duct tape. broken parts of PRAWN arm, etc etc.
thats not very spearminded of you.
The weak are meat, the strong eat
^
I've earned my orange role, will you?
Andy you're the herbivore here.
We are the carnivores.
Well omnivores but whatever
but in actuality. the wikikeeper role is very scarcely given out.
I do believe there's a component of SLScool's bot designed to assign it to people. but I know nothing about that stuff
I feel I just asked for it and got it immediately, but I suppose I've earned it by now
I'm the coolest person in the server so I have no doubt I'll get it eventually
Wait we can just ask for it?
@cinder kestrel whats the requirements for the bot to assign it?
In the past at least. It had to be a direct reccomendation or commendations.
Can I recommend myself
Whether its another wiki keeper recommending it, or maybe one of the mods / devs was watching the wiki chat and has seen you working and coordinating with wiki staff for a long time.. that was a long time ago though. etc etc.
But you need the recommendation of other wiki keepers for it, idk if they have to be admins or not. I got my orange when Tueman- previously owner of the wiki - made the recommendation for me to receive the role.
I see, well I don't think there's much to do for the wiki rn
Small fixes I can think of but sn2 is the real task
there's always something to do on the wiki, but you have to be actually looking for that something to do.
the wiki started in early access, and built up upon itself with time, alongside the game. we didn't have a set template or set formula. so theres always pages that kinda fell through the cracks and have been neglected.
Idk but I enjoyed working on the swim speed stuff
Atm with subnautica 2 stuff. We just work with what we have for now.
I noticed crashfish are still noted on the bz wiki as damaging your oxygen level, they don't in sn1 so I'll test that out later to be sure
i thought damage in general drops player oxygen
Doesn't seem so
Oh, I remember editing the crashfish page, seems BZ slipped
Well I'll test it in bz
It could be the reason it was on the sn1 wiki is because it was that way in bz potentially
Kiro trying to become wiki keeper
Fails miserably, eats fellow server member
Can I fight Kiro in the volcano
I use 
disqualified.
But we mostly are in an Idle range outside of page cleanup and fixes. which is like i said:
you'll find plenty to do if you go looking for it.
outdated images, stuff not following the right formatting, pages with dated numbers, etc etc.
I have some tricks to find wrong info, but I'm not sharing them with anyone
I want to have more edits
So greedy
if there's any page that needs to be reworked and reorganized.
its the alterra page.
its a hot mess atm.
heres the older conversation on it
that page really needs to be reworked
I can't say i really know enough about the grander lore to help there
Like the politics of the trans-govs
none of us do, thats the problem. because not enough of it has been documented in either games. I started the push to add the alterra significance into the wiki story timeline page.
but still even with what has been documented, these pieces of information haven't been the best assembled together on the wiki.
also considering we only use the context from the games themselves, and not from Natural selection 2
okay they dont damage oxygen
We should start writing the lore bible ourselves, using game data and Obraxis' messages in the server
I told ya
I just forgot to edit Crashfish BZ
Leaving it there for you
It was worth double checking for accuracy
Wow you're all being very productive today. #makekirowikikeeper
That was depressingly easy to change
Thank God this community isn't all too malicious
~~ how mad would you be if I changed it back /j~~ ( joke not actually doing it
grr always commit to the bit
Change all creatures to deal oxygen damage
If you do just know that I will win our spear duel
I'm still confused on why whoever made that edit thought they did damage oxygen level, maybe some EA stuff?
Don't have an account
Or placebo
Some pages had weird info that was never true
Myths that got their way in
Guess that's what happens when anyone can edit the wiki
Some things end up slipping through unnoticed
Cuddlefish will dance if they get put in the crash zone mesa surrounded by observatorys with a reaper biting it /j
While funny the cuddlefish is significantly stronger than reapers, hardly a fair fight
I believe in early access yes, damage did affect oxygen.
But like many mechanics (player throwing up and losing health if they eat too much) did get scrapped. and i wouldn't be surprised if thats one of them.
Well i can be extra detailed and boot up a EA build lol
Wait I just realized... it's ignis telling you the info on the wiki is wrong isn't it?
It's @willow vector , and you /verify to get it. For example:
@cinder kestrel, you have been successfully verified as wiki user "SLScool".
I think I had Donya set it up to just require any role on the wiki.
What would happen if I tried verifying..?
Go ahead.
Oh I can't even use the bot lol
!wiki verify SLScool
@cinder kestrel, you have been successfully verified as wiki user "SLScool".
!wiki verify Kiro Bot
@limber parrot, your Discord tag doesn't match the wiki user "Kiro Bot".
Discord user @limber parrot doesn't match the wiki user Kiro Bot.
kirobot
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Follow this guide to add your Discord tag to your wiki profile:
https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Special:VerifyUser/Kiro_Bot?c=wb&ch=đwiki-discussion&user=kirobot&useskin=fandomdesktop
Hit the "Check again" button or resend the !wiki verify Kiro Bot command.
!wiki verify Kiro Bot
@limber parrot, your Discord tag matches the wiki user "Kiro Bot", but you don't meet the requirements for any roles.
Sad :<
I'll find all the errors >:(
welp

