#📚wiki-discussion

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cursive vigil
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Also thanks to both for replying, I appreciate it 🙏

manic field
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The time might be now to decide.

cinder kestrel
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To decide to fork, or . . . ?

hearty moon
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ive got a question i dont know if anyone can answer but does anyone have a clue on where the cockpit of the aurora is located?

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is it the front the top outlook or the small jut in the middle top of the ship?

silent gazelle
hearty moon
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see i thought that but then i saw the glass at the very front and thought it to be more logical

silent gazelle
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i dont think thats glass

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that same texture is on the sides of it

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i mean, it could be

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idk

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its set in the far future

hearty moon
sleek junco
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the habitat builder page for subnautica has alot wrong with it, mostly wrong listings for names, but its also missing window domes and large rooms

sleek junco
grave ibex
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I don't know a lot about the game, but marblemelons are hydrating, right?

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The Bulbo Tree page seems to also imply that they give a certain amount of water.

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But for some reason they aren't listed as giving any water on their appropriate page

sudden dove
grave ibex
sudden dove
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They do, I was just showing that it doesn't which is what you brought up lol

onyx river
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Fixed it, the value was there but someone didnt put it in properly in the onfobox so it didnt show up

knotty galleon
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someone just greefed the Anchor Pods

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theres a greefing streak going on atm

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The real blabbit12 is the culpret

heady gulch
sudden dove
sour basin
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Ok sorry

runic umbra
bitter dock
sleek junco
bitter dock
sleek junco
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hmm, lemme check something rq

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yup thats the bridge

sudden dove
sleek junco
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sorry

devout wedge
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hey, I'm active on a few wikis and noticed that Subnautica is still on Fandom, and perusing the chat history it seems like that never really took off. is there anything in particular that's stopping that from happening?

cinder kestrel
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Currently, I think it's the lack of anyone putting in enough effort to make the fork happen.

devout wedge
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I mean, ideally there wouldn't be a fork, there'd be a move

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but also fair

bitter dock
knotty galleon
cinder kestrel
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We had a huge talk about it 51 days ago at about this hour.

devout wedge
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yeah, I skimmed but didn't quite see what arguments were used

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since Fandom is uhh, pretty terrible, were injecting AI nonsense questions into wikis, is horrible to use, and a load of folks have been trying to leave, so, it feels like the only compelling argument is the mechanical act of moving

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like I also saw talk about, despite seemingly being better off and having dedicated reps to fandom, all of those people are gone now

knotty galleon
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"We have a long history with fandom"

devout wedge
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I mean, that statement could be said about most abusive relationships, but it doesn't mean it's not an abusive relationship

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fandom the company has an abusive relationship with the fandoms they claim to represent, and after seeing lots of wikis move while Subnautica isn't, I wanted to ask around and see if I could help somehow

summer kindle
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I mean it’s mostly just that it’s a lot of work for not very much

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the fandom wiki is established and has been for years and people are still gonna use that one anyway

devout wedge
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right, the cost-benefit analysis is very fair, although I disagree that the cost is tremendously high and that people will still just use the fandom version

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a lot more people are becoming aware of Fandom's shenanigans and extensions like Indie Wiki Buddy are very helpful to ensure you actually go to the right wiki

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like, this is part of why I wanted to ask around and see if I could help, since I help maintain another game's wiki on Miraheze/WikiTide and setting up a wiki there is relatively easy. personally, I find the mess of stuff Fandom injects on pages to make the wiki way harder to navigate

devout wedge
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another thing to consider is that, if Unknown Worlds were willing to get involved, I think that abusing the DMCA is disgusting, but for Rain World we managed to get the publisher to actually take down the Fandom wiki with a DMCA request and could probably do the same here after everyone was moved over

summer kindle
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they’re not going to do that

devout wedge
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because...

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(there are lots of valid answers to this, I just don't like negative assertions like that without at least one of them)

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like I'm not answering this as someone who's just gonna tell you you're bad for staying on fandom (you're not), just as someone who is involved with other wikis, cares about Subnautica in general, and would be willing to directly get more involved to help make a transition happen if people wanted that. there are lots of valid reasons for this, I just haven't been able to find any direct answers and I think it's reasonable to have one because I doubt I'll be the last person to show up asking like this

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and, I agree with the notion that a fork is a bad idea. even though Fandom's policies prevent actually removing wikis, and let's say you can't get the publisher to actually push them to remove the wiki, as long as the community strongly pushes toward a particular wiki, that shift will happen and the fandom wiki will become a barren wasteland. it has happened for all sorts of games and will continue happening for more. but if some of the community are actually on board with being on Fandom still, then it will be a true fork, and Fandom's vampiric SEO practices will win

sudden dove
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I just haven't been able to find any direct answers and I think it's reasonable to have one

There's already a complete wiki for a game that released in early access 10 years ago.

The work required from a bunch of volunteers isn't worth the time and effort to them when what exists is perfectly suitable to 99% of the community.

summer kindle
# devout wedge because...

because the devs were against the idea of us moving the wiki off of fandom when we talked about this before

devout wedge
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ah

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that's unfortunate

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but, it is the answer I was looking for, so, I'll stop pushing

dapper finch
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So I’m wondering where to get nickel. I know it’s in the lost river but I don’t know where specifically. Is there certain spots? In the brine maybe?

jade solstice
jade solstice
hearty moon
jade solstice
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trust me i know my vehicles

hearty moon
jade solstice
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scrolling

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im bored and on caffeine

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check it out mainly the last 2 pages rn

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i noticed that Pault Torgal says something revealing

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he only other survivors are my son, Bart, and Maida

The Only Other

wich means there was atleast 1 more member that diddnt make it

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as hes not in any manifest likly just a pilot or something, not important enough , atleast not as much as The company owners and their hired ex military Bodyguard

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the aurora had 9 passengers but while we know 4 of them (Wilson, Elheim, Khasar and one unnamed) only Khasars offcial number (passenger 7) is known to us

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we also have unnamed crew missing from the wiki page

out the 148 crew members we know very few
17 , 18 if you count the First officer

Captain Hollister
Second Officer Keen
Medical Officer Danby
CTO Yu
Non-Essential Systems Maintenance Chief Ryley Robinson
Engineer Berkeley
Technitian Hinkle
Jo (a Contractor)
Huggins (unknown Prawn Bay position)
Ozzy (Owner of the Cafeteria)

unidentified Crew:
Head of Human Resources (Lifepod 6)
2 Crew in scanner room)
4 Crew mentioned in PDA's

while not mentioned, Keen beeing the second officer means we have an unidentified First officer aswell

One cut crew:
Senior Engineer LaFette

jade solstice
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They were hypothermic and frostbitten, because they walked back to avoid “angering them.”'

this line from a PDA shows the Mercury II had atleast 2 currently unnamed Crew members

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plus 6 members of unknown occupation joining up with Elliot for a kinda expedition to look for the alien structures, 3 of wich died

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from how described beeing ripped apart after following an sos of some kind, by a Warper

jade solstice
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@hearty moon

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@ivory steppe are you active with editing?

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cuz i dont think i can the following myself lol

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the wiki rly needs a clean up

many Lore points (like most info on Robin Ayou) comes from unused / cut PDAS currently

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so ones only seen if you use console commands

hearty moon
jade solstice
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because yes

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editing reasons

jade solstice
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@heady gulch i have a question for the wiki maybe

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mainly if you know anyone whos currently rather active to assist me , many of the current infos on alterra employees come still from Cut PDA's

heady gulch
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Hm.

heady gulch
jade solstice
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nono im trying to correct the pages

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for Example Robin Ayous page still has the info from pdas that were made unavailable in old updates

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pdas from the old story

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only readable if you use console commands / the Dev console

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it still says she was an alterra contractor send to the Planet by them. even tho in the current version all we know is that alterra bought her employeer and that she actually went to the planet without their knowledge

heady gulch
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Could be related to page protections, eons ago some pages were protected due to vandalism

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I can look into the page permissions and see what’s up

jade solstice
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the only PDA given as a source on robina page is a cut one from the story line where we woke up on the planet.

heady gulch
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Feel free to update the page if you can

jade solstice
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im planning to as soon as i get thru all known data on her

heady gulch
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I’ll check to see if any of the pages are

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Protected when I’m home

jade solstice
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im currently making a google doc for every single known employee of all the companys n stuff

jade solstice
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@heady gulch if you have time could you check something?ä

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the Alterra page links to 2 databank entries that dont seem to even exist on the wiki

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Databank Entry: Article on Alterra's Governance

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Databank Entry: Alterra Shares Fall 2% on Aurora Accident

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the Data the apparently contain also isnt findable for me

some Alterra Companys / Divisions

Alterra Water Board
Intrepid Phasegates
Aurora Corp
Alterra Times

sudden dove
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You don't need to ping these guys for everything, remember they're volunteers. Just leave your comments here and they'll check the channel when they can.

jade solstice
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yes sry

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anyways 3 am, should try and sleep lol

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finaly finished with all the known alterra staff in sector zero

jade solstice
jade solstice
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looks like someone made up a Planet, its kot in zhe linked source

wich is removed content anyways

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also PDAs only seen per console commands def arent Canon Lore

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there is a reaaon why things are only available with Cheats

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unless they get placed in the game world they arent canon

i mean half of those seen with cheats are placeholders and deleted stuff

jade solstice
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gonna prepare doc with my findings for later discussion

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if anyone wants, i obv accept help lol

cinder kestrel
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These are all the fully protected articles.

jade solstice
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none of my findings apply

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btw how did yall get those wiki roles

willow vectorBOT
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@cinder kestrel, you have been successfully verified as wiki user "SLScool".

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cinder kestrel
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Which requires having a role on the wiki.

jade solstice
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/verify

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i hate bots

cinder kestrel
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a role
Such as Rollback or Thread Moderator.

jade solstice
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ah man

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im just a mere editor from back in 22

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tho i was on break a bit

jade solstice
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i checked

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4 PDAs obtained with only console commands in BZ

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2 of wich (repulsion and spotlight) are the same as from the original

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2 are plants only in BZ wich makes this difficult as Subnauticas console command stuff was for example all from cut content

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so im not sure if we can trust those 2

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also noticed that on PS4 / 5 you get alot more cut entries shown then the wiki says for the original

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many of wich are placeholders or deleted

jade solstice
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i finished the Data on what has sources

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@sharp oak i have the link for the Google Doc where i wrote down for us here wich sources are non existent or Cut Content

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should i send that to someone first? or is there a place for that maybe

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took me quite some time to check it lol

jade solstice
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Aight unidentified should be done exept for 2 that i need to look up again first

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All ever mentioned and not cut Alterra Employees

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mentioned as in talked about

remote leaf
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not so sure about Unidentified being on there, but if they should

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then the U should be uppercase in all of them

jade solstice
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i will

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i mean ok maybe not the 2 with just Aurora Crew

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but atleast the ones with specific jobs mentioned

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like the Head of HR for the Aurora

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[[the info is in the pages i put in notes

i dont rly understand the source system rn

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if you want to see my List of ALL charachters

i can send you the google sheet

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im also gonna soon check what the missing databank entrys are about that some sources claim to exist

jade solstice
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now im done for now

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just need to figure out how to source something

jade solstice
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Aurora Engineering Drone - Log

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this PDA mentions how a repulsion cannon with an added circuit box can punch a hole into a cargo bay

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Today's Menu

cursive vigil
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yeah it's a fun detail

jade solstice
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and this one mentions how a replusion cannon punched a hole into it / and the hull and made the stuff shoot out into space

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the drone log is literaly in the hallway infront of Bay 3 is the thing

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sooo we know who did it Berkeley and Yu or atleast Yu

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Yu may be the CTU but Yus also kinda crazy sometimes

cursive vigil
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and now they have to eat nuts for dessert cause of Yu 😔

jade solstice
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yu renamed and reprogrammed a drone to match her subordinates behavior because of funny

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new Aurora thing!

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the menu pda mentions onboard growbeds to be where they grew chinese potatoes

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ok im convinced it was Yu and Berkeley

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the cargo bay 3 incident was with a repulsion with an added modified battery

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and another unnamed charachter (but cut) a security officer

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Robotics Bay Security

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the pda

jade solstice
remote leaf
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yeah

jade solstice
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good

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i need something i cant get

remote leaf
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sure, I can grab it sometime later

jade solstice
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a possibly existing old build pda

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lifepod 17 from when its wasnt ozzy but LaFette

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as thats seemingly an old source for Aurora Technitian Hinkle

remote leaf
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ah, older build

jade solstice
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and if it is then Hinkle isnt part of the active 'canon

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anymore

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dont know wich build sadly

remote leaf
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ouch

jade solstice
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and i can only get BZ stuff as i dont own subnautica on steam

remote leaf
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doesnt help that much

jade solstice
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Cargo Crates

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pristine, CARGO with white back color

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Alterra property (name on it in teh corner) 2.2 T (tons)

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demaged and dirty , CARGO with orange back color

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also 2.2T

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for both the small and big funnily

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but only small clean a sthe white on it

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most wrecks are just storage

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but 1 sofar (12) had some lab like panels plus cargo

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while 14 had cargo and a small office ish room

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sofar all of what crashed was the Auroras engineering sections (as storage is according to a pda their stuff)

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0.25 cubic kilometers of storage

jade solstice
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wreck 5
some quarters (2 double beds, wall shelfs and plant pods on some flat shelfs)
next to it a room with a destroyed prawn (looking more like a cargo bay with a prawn to carry

quarters and lockers in room with prawn look like to be where that rooms crew slept

one non conected Cargo Bay reached via hole inn a wall

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wreck 11 (if the pda is at the correct place then leisure deck B is there (wich ios weird as its mainly cargo)

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in that case Leisure Deck B would be this room lol

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was where the pda was

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wreck 4

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another 2 cargo bays

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it does mention a prawn suit operation rule, but its one to not climb on moving equipment

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and its once more not in prawn room but a lone suit surrounded by Cargo crates

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wreck 7 the same

jade solstice
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wreck 2 is cargo and has some prawn arms)

hearty moon
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is there a cannon reason for why the Sea Emperor Leviathan never spoke the the Degasi team and just to us?

cursive vigil
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It did speak to them

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In one of the PDAs they talk about visions

hearty moon
boreal sequoia
jade solstice
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sooo

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the aurora had 1 known prawn bay

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and seemingly 2 seamoth

we have one in the ship

and lifepod 17 was, according to Ozzy allmost crushed by one aswell

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and well the seamoth bay inside isnr a likly candidate as its inbetween the cargo bay lift and the drive core

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sofar the prawns i counted in the other small cargo bays do align with how many are missing from The Prawn Pay

jade solstice
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i just found an cut PDA from Bz from an old build that isnt on the Wiki

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Robin Goodall - Alterra Application Interview

INTERVIEWER: Why have you applied for this role?

ROBIN: Everyone's talking about 4546B. Who hasn't applied?! Maybe Jeffreys.

INTERVIEWER: No, Jeffreys signed on last week. Why THIS assignment?

ROBIN: The last time we found sentient alien life was Strader VI. Seventeen years ago. It's been fun, but frankly i'm bored, and you have telepathic squid.

INTERVIEWER: I should tell you that rumors about space-faring aliens on the planet ARE rumors. If that's why you're here you'll be disappointed.

ROBIN: I'm a xeno-linguist. Space-faring aliens are our holy grail. I want it, but i son't expect to get it.

INTERVIEWER: What qualifies you for this position?

ROBIN: There are creatures out there you couldn't image, let alone understand. Do you know how I talk to them?

INTERVIEWER: I think you correlate responses againt stimuli and-

ROBIN: I do what they do. If they bathe in liquid nitrogen and talk with their feet, i put on a coat and i pull a handstand. But this recruitment process? It's the most alien of all. So I#m trying to correlate my responses here. I want us to understand each other. Put me on that planet, I'll zalk with the fish for you.

INTERVEWER: Thank you, Miss Goodall. Sandra - Sandra?! - Sandra will show you out. Sandra?!

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Early Access Feb. 2019 - 9892

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Profile: Research Station Zero

Welcome to your home away from home on 4546B. This pamphlet will guide you through your new accommodation.

Get Your Bearings:
Zero sector is comprised of 2 square kilometers of ocean, located near the planet's equator. Unusual environmental condistions leave this area in almost permanent winter, interrupted by extreme weather events. For unknown reasons it was selected by the aliens as a hub for their installations. Life in the area has flourished since the release of enzyme 42 into the larger ecosystem.

Research Station Zero:
You have been posted to the main sector base, located on a large ice cap in the west, just below the primary alien research site. From here you will conducts research into alien communications and technologies, and condusct away missions to unmanned installations elsewhere in the sector.

Facilities:

  • 3-6 person accommodation
  • Full science and engineering section
  • Leisure and exercise facilities
  • Large growroom and water filtration unit for self-sufficient living
  • Weather forecatsing suite
  • Prawn bay
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old version of Guide: Research Station Zero

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Robin Goodall - Research Notes (broken PDA entry)

43789314876 4689432 46303646 4263784

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Task List

  • Harvest edibles from growbeds and plant new seed - TODO
  • Translate symbols on alien artifacts 7 & 10 - IN PROGRESS
  • Send completed research samples to vesper via rocket - DONE
  • Continue investigation of the forcefield mechanisms at research site Zero - IN PROGRESS
  • Send weekly status report - IN PROGRESS
  • Varnish prawn suits - TODO
  • Repair weather station - TODO
  • Perform monthly patrol of remote installations - TODO
  • test whether pengwing flock are comfortable enough to swim with humans - DONE (Yes!)
  • Induct new support personnel - TODO
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old version of current PDA of the same name

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omg aight i cant do all of them rn

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but it seems many of the pda linked on the wiki but not in the databank are from that old build

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like the claim for sam and robins mom beeing dead

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or Scott III the planet

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all from the early access build but seemingly someone deleted them from the wiki

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and jeff from later builds was called Jo Jeffreys back then

drowsy nexus
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ive been made aware that theta is more likely to be the ancient skeleton rather than the biter/sandshark cousin in drf

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i feel like thats something that should be changed

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theta is listed as being on an "offsite lab" to study its remains, the sandshark/biter cousin in drf died during the collapse of drf, so no remains and its on-site

drowsy nexus
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fandom has broken when i made an account send help

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this doesnt look right

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i dont know how to change the wiki and im scared of doing it wrong but the whole theta thing being wrong is really bugging me ohno

drowsy nexus
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i keep getting this stupid "header overflow"

onyx river
onyx river
drowsy nexus
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wish i could but yk, the image above

cinder kestrel
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If it's still there now, try [[Special:Contact]] and letting staff know about this bug.

willow vectorBOT
jade solstice
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change is mostly finished

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only the page name and info box missing and one image name

vague jay
stuck eagle
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Y’all still run on fandom? I thought everyone hated it I’m confused

summer kindle
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let’s not go there…

dry bluff
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Is it possible to put mods on xbox ?

sharp oak
devout wedge
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(not "going there" in the sense of arguing the decision should be changed, since like I said I don't think anyone's mind would be changed, but was frustrated how much I had to interrogate folks for an answer so I think it's at least fair to say why)

rancid hare
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Why dont yall check pins.

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The reasons are there.

heady gulch
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Enough has been spoken on the subject. Yes, we have had shifts in opinions throughout the year, but at the end of the day: Subnautica wiki is staying on fandom, with the below zero element. It’s a complete content wiki and there’s no reason to move it. Thats all that needs to be said on the subject

devout wedge
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I mean, I read those pins before I asked initially, and the reason why I asked was because I felt the explanation that's pinned is insufficient. as I said, having a longstanding relationship with fandom is not sufficient because they have shown to have a longstanding abusive relationship with many communities, which is why those communities have moved. additionally, the "wiki is done" statement will no longer apply once the sequel comes out, and that further makes it unsatisfactory of an answer.

I don't think that your reasoning is invalid, nor do I intend to try and change anyone's mind. I just think that your decision deserves a better explanation than "we made our decision and are tired of people asking about it"

heady gulch
# devout wedge I mean, I *read* those pins before I asked initially, and the reason why I asked...

As mentioned in my previous message, a lot of opinions have shifted over the year.

Compared to the original pin, our sentiments towards fandom have changed. You can read up the chats to find these discussions as I do not feel a need to revisit them.

At the end of the day, subnautica wiki and below zero are complete wikis with small communities. The wiki content is mostly done, we have no reason to spend the effort to migrate.

heady gulch
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If you want to know the sentiments on the sequel, and what wiki platform should be used for that, the conversation happened back around in February, check for keywords like “wiki.gg” or “forking” in the search option for this channel.

devout wedge
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right, as I said, I entirely agree with the ultimate reasoning behind the decision, I just think that it's much better of an explanation to point out that the nuance between the relationship with fandom, the devs' desire to maintain a positive rapport with fandom (despite the wiki not being directly connected with the devs), and the fact that very few wiki edits will be done until the sequel comes out, is a substantially better explanation than just "we don't want to move and the wiki is done," because the immediate response to "we don't want to move is" well, there are plenty of other wiki folks who have moved other communities who would be more than willing to help with that

heady gulch
devout wedge
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that's incredibly fair, and considering the fact that the decision is done, you don't have to

heady gulch
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Mhm, if you’d like to be a part of future involvement in subnautica wiki for the sequel, I can mark your name down and keep you updated when the time comes.

devout wedge
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certainly; I've been paying attention to this channel occasionally for that reason :p

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basically, I think that if we want a more satisfying answer to moving from fandom that's still simple, "we'll wait until the sequel is closer to release to figure this out"

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since, I think that separating out sequel content from base game content would be similarly bad for the same reasons why forking the existing content would be bad

heady gulch
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I agree, but at the moment we don’t have a concrete stance on anything. We do not know how a future decision to stray away from fandom will be interpreted by UWE/Krafton.

devout wedge
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right, I'm just saying that the big point is we're not even considering such a discussion until the sequel is closer to release

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so, whether that discussion is worth having or not, it's not happening for now

heady gulch
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The discussion has already happened,

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Again, circa Feb 2024.

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(Or was it January? I can’t remember).

devout wedge
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oh I know, just, I was under the impression that people were very mixed on the subject of whether sequel content should be on fandom, and that there wasn't a consensus there

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the consensus was just for existing content

heady gulch
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We have a general consensus. But when the time comes we will decide if we’re going to cement any plans into motion

devout wedge
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agreed there

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sorry, as I've said, I do agree that the existing decisions are quite valid and I'm still not trying to change any minds here, so, I don't want to argue with you since that'd be counterproductive

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I'm still only operating on the limited information I gathered from folks after the discussion happened

heady gulch
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However I will say, I do not believe we are forking from fandom.

Many of the admins on SN wiki have been there for years, myself included, and leaving it on fandom gives us the access to keep maintaining it as we see fit. Forking Subnautica wiki over elsewhere means complete re-assignment for administration on fandom Subnautica wiki.

However, where subnautica 2 wiki is should not affect that, as we want it to be a separate entity. Regardless if it’s fandom or not.

devout wedge
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oh, I wasn't aware that that was the plan; I thought that it was still desirable to keep them together

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I guess we still don't know how similar the games will be with such limited information on it still

heady gulch
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The merging of below zero and subnautica wiki caused a lot of problems related to editing, fixing pages and templates. It’s an undesirable situation we were pushed into. And would rather not deal with again.

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As for subnautica 2, it’s confirmed it’s an entirely new alien planet

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And we expect there would be enough substantial changes to warrant it existing as a separate wiki

devout wedge
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fair enough

heady gulch
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Considering 2025 is a long ways away, everything is up to change. And we do not want to finalize any plans yet until early access is available. By that time we can review our plans, see if anything needs appending, re-analyze which platform to go with. And understand how much support we will receive.

devout wedge
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agreed

fair zenith
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i dont know if is the right place for asking this question there but do we have any more information about subnautice 2 (sry for my bad english i am french XD)

sudden dove
gray forge
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Leviathan Trench (Cut Content)

I was recentlly browsing a subnautica iceberg, and came across an intriguing piece of information on the bottom of it - leviathan trech. I tried to do research, but only found a few reddit threads asking the same questing. Can anyone help?

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P.S. I couldn't find it on the wiki

heady gulch
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There’s a lot of leaked and cut story bits that were exclusive to private builds that we cannot implement onto the wiki

devout wedge
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yeah, leaked stuff on the wiki is a big no-no; if the devs choose to publicly talk about it, that's one thing, but if it's private info that's not something the wiki has the right to include

summer kindle
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it’s on the below zero cut content page

sharp oak
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That was quite the edit 👍

sharp oak
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And there goes another one

stuck eagle
crystal bobcat
sudden dove
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@heady gulch @cinder kestrel ^ fyi

remote leaf
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@crystal bobcat works fine for me

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Im on firefox though, what browser did you use?

crystal bobcat
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I’m also on Firefox. It says error on all media players.

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(This is not the media player that caused it, it was in the dialogue page, though it was on the same PDA quote) I tried chrome and safari, and no luck (no scam website either) it appears to be some issue with IOS not accepting the format or something

devout wedge
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what format are they uploaded as? MP3?

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ahh, appears to be OGG

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iOS not supporting OGG is mostly due to Apple being stubborn; I believe that all browsers except Safari should support it

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very weird that it's failing for you in Firefox

sharp oak
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Recent change in Cuddlefish page. Wasn't it obvious? Why remove it?

remote leaf
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Something like that would need a source tbh

sharp oak
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Alright, that's fair.

fierce cave
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The wiki says there's a chance for large kyanite deposits to drop zero kyanite, but I've been told that 2.0 changed this so that you always get at least one

sharp oak
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You're right, I'll see if I can edit it.

sharp oak
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Thousand edits later, the values are correct again. Sorry.

devout wedge
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were there any other 2.0 changes that were missed? or was that the thousand edits you were referring to

sharp oak
devout wedge
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oh, that's understandable too

sharp oak
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But yes, there are more edits I might've missed, I'll fix em up when I find them.

devout wedge
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very fair

sharp oak
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There's also much straight up wrong info that I'm not aware

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cough cough old infection page cough

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I really do need to get a PC that can handle Subnautica, I'll be playtesting so much.

cinder kestrel
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There is a preview feature for when you're using the source editor, but it seems you were using the visual editor.

sharp oak
devout wedge
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very easy to forget things, especially if you don't edit often. it's understandable

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usually go easier on folks who just keep forgetting the scope of their edit or who want to super verify the data, compared to people who just don't read what they wrote and make 50 typos in 60 edits

sharp oak
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I want my edits to be correct. It's kind of the reason why I decided to help out on the wiki.

balmy mural
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I have no idea how to add anything to any wiki, but I’m replaying BZ on PS5 since trophies don’t seem to transfer between PS4 and PS5 (lol) and I just noticed the BZ Architect structures page doesn’t list either the Arch (principal) in Arctic Spires (which has an elevator that leads to the underground dock) or the Arch (Auxiliary) located in Phi Robotics.

hallow fulcrum
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guys pls dont beat me up if im wrong but i think these two leviathan concepts are misisng from the concept art page

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and i dont have a fandom account

bitter dock
hallow fulcrum
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one of the art desginer guys post on twitter

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which now that i think about it prob isnt very reliable

bitter dock
devout wedge
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yeah, need permission from the artist to add it on the wiki

cerulean geyser
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Could someone edit the wiki entry for dialogue? Its missing one of the dialogue options for AL-AN asking Robin to go to the fabricator - if you have been to the fabricator, (not sure whether it makes a difference if you went with al-an or not) then al-an will give slightly different dialogue

dull veldt
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Eyo so maybe some of the recent changes to the safe shallows page are a little redundant? Like shuttle bugs for example I'd imagine weren't mentioned because they appear on the safe shallows caves page and they only appear in the caves? Similar for like sandstone outcrops in the safe shallows, etc are caves-exclusive just my thoughts

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Want to mention that I DO understand that the "caves" of any given biome are not separate biomes, but they do have separate pages, I feel like Fauna should definitely be different because mesmers only spawn in kelp forest CAVES not kelp forests, etc. and having sandstone outcrops mentioned the same way in safe shallows as in grassy plat seems counterintuitive when there's like 5 sandstone outcrops in the safe shallows lol

sudden dove
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Feel lke that's needlessly pedantic tbh

devout wedge
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I mean, to be a wiki editor you do have to be a bit pedantic sometimes

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but also I'm not exactly sure what the complaint is here

bitter dock
devout wedge
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ah, fair; I guess that putting the common ones in the shallows made sense only because it doesn't have any special stuff besides, I guess the kelp forests

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which is technically Not The Shallows

sharp oak
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The caves are technically not safe shallows either

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Gets really confusing quickly

twin rose
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Hey guys?

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I have a question

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Kind of a "what should I do question"

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I'm nearing the end of subnautica and I only recently built a Cyclops. but since I have all the materials i need, I can also ||build the rocket and escape the planet|| so I was wondering if I should level up my Cyclops before I do that just to use it and have fun with it or should I just beat the game and just ignore my Cyclops?

remote leaf
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this is for talk about the Subnautica Wiki

twin rose
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Sorry

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:/

remote leaf
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happens all the time. Im used to it lol

twin rose
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But I really have no idea what to do

limber parrot
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How come this is empty?

remote leaf
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this is the correct page

limber parrot
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Gotcha, thank you

remote leaf
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@limber parrot did you find a link that lead you to the blank page

limber parrot
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I just looked up "the architects subnautica" it was the first result

remote leaf
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ah

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strange

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that's annoying

tough widget
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Guys, is this concept art from the game "Sabnatika" or "Sabnatika Below Zero"?

summer kindle
solid roost
summer kindle
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and the Spinnerfish which comes from the Sand Shark concept art

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and the Glow Whales

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a few things

robust canopy
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hello

sharp oak
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The Below Zero Seabases page still has the old solar panel/thermal plant/nuclear reactor icons. I don't have the new ones, so maybe if someone else has, please fix 🙏 thank you

gilded onyx
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Hey, thought I'd talk about this here since I just was made aware of this, and am working to quickly throw together a solution. At some point something happened with the Subnautica Trellos, not sure if this extends to them all, but at the bare minimum the Subnautica Done Trello is now gone, and with the wiki having often sourced that page, thats a really big problem.

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Thankfully I have an archive of the whole thing, which I had taken a while back, but its still a really big problem.

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Is there anyone who is a major editor of the wiki who might be able to discuss and assist with this issue?

vital holly
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What is trellos

turbid ermine
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Trello is a visual work management tool.

sharp oak
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@summer kindle Hey Gemma, may I ask you something? How do I revert a change?

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They're talking about a bug as if it was a feature

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Oh no. I found the button. Sorry for bothering you.

summer kindle
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all good

stray thistle
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I just pressed random buttons accidentally and now it is all of a sudden zoomed in?

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I tried refreshing the tab

median talon
heady gulch
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just a heads up to editors.

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people are allowed to mention bugs for subnautica on their respective pages

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the stipulation about bug mentions on the pages was removed by tueman a while ago. only on below zero pages we don't allow bug reporting

remote leaf
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We do have a dedicated bug section where it can be placed

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Instead of middle of an article

heady gulch
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link me to it.

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i cant find it through the website search

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nvm i found it, gotcha.

sharp oak
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Yes I was thinking about telling that person that we could add a bugs section, but I only got home now sn_neutral

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But certain creatures one-shot the player for seemingly no reason at all.

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Warpers do it too.

sudden dove
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You can also press ctrl and use the scroll wheel on your mouse

sharp oak
sharp oak
ivory steppe
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Are the Precursor Fish Skeleton, Lab Cache Container 1, Lab Cache Container 2, Lab Table, Scanner, Sensor, Sea Dragon Skeleton and Warper in BZ's cut content page really cut things for the game? Going off of their names, they seem to be set pieces for the Lost River cache and Disease Research Facility. https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cut_Content_(Below_Zero)

Subnautica Wiki

This page serves to chronicle any significant content that was cut from the final version of Subnautica: Below Zero. The Deep Arctic was the entrance to the Methane Ice Caves Biome, and was...

jade solstice
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just gives an error

jade solstice
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aswell as prob left over assets

jade solstice
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@sharp oak was it ever fixed that the pages Robin and sam linked cut pages (even some removed from the wiki) and had cut info on them on their past?

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or is that rewrite still needed, have some time later

cursive vigil
remote leaf
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That conversation was a month ago...

cinder kestrel
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But it was also less than 50 messages ago.

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Likewise, what you said was the previous message, even if it was from more than four days ago.

old fog
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i just noticed that there's a sn2 page up on the wiki

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@steel knot you might wanna share with the wikikeepers your discovery

steel knot
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oh yeah good idea. anyone in particular I should talk to, do you think?

old fog
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just leave your discovery here

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i'm sure someone will see it

steel knot
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o7

old fog
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if nobody does i can ping andy

steel knot
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Teaser 1 with the leaves means 'water', teaser 2 with the body means 'slug', teaser 3 with the face means 'waterslug'.

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oh also user @clear comet brought the first capsule teaser to the community's attention over in the modding discord.

clear comet
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there's also this emote

steel knot
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yeah that's a teaser too

zealous cloud
remote leaf
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Man. Seeing that recent wiki edit over the Spoiler Temple realizing that the text was supposed to be centered this entire time but never was because someone used the UK spelling (centre) is funny

jagged hemlock
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lol

cinder kestrel
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[[Special:Diff/209815]]

willow vectorBOT
remote leaf
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Yeah. Kinda obvious

reef python
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So the wiki says i need 2 purple tablets and an ion cube for the lava castle, is that accurate or is it missing something? Also i always thought I'd need only 1 blue tablet?

reef python
fresh basin
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No just the big one

jagged hemlock
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There are cubes in the PCF, but not in the lava castle.

reef python
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Ah perfect thank you! Don't wanna go on trips without the right stuff with me

cinder kestrel
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One Blue Tablet is needed to gain entrance to the facility, and a second one is used to unlock the Moonpool room. However, only one Blue Tablet is available for pickup from the Alien Thermal Plant. It is craftable after the player either picks this Blue Tablet up, or scans it.

old fog
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is anyone going to add the waterslug info to the sn2 page?

weak bane
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Oh ya! Please do this or i wanna see if i can at least its super interesting!

weak bane
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I posted a little thing of it in the wiki please lmk if I messed anything up!

weak bane
delicate scaffold
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im asking if the image is the slug or whatever

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cause he said “info” so in wondering if im missibf something

weak bane
delicate scaffold
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kk ❤️

fickle shell
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Hope I didn't mess up anything as I've never edited on fandom wiki, but made an edit on planet 4546b's page after someone changed it to planet steve multiple times through the wiki article.

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Unless there is some new lore about it being called Steve- But can't find any resources mentioning that Pengling_Load

heady gulch
fickle shell
sly chasm
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IS this where I can ask about a correction needed on the Fandom Wiki?

remote leaf
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Sure

sharp oak
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I'll work on it as soon as possible, unless someone faster than me derpfish2

fresh basin
sly chasm
# remote leaf Sure

I figured out the problem, the Wiki is correct. I learned that You need to have your Seamoth Depth Module in Inventory or the option for upgrading to Mk 2 just wont appear in the Modification Station options.

sharp oak
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Ah, I see. The wiki being correct, I love hearing that. Mostly due to how rare that used to be 🥲

sly chasm
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Not a feature I like. I thought it couldnt be crafted so I went around finding the Vehicle Upgrade Console.

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Wiki is my best friend, thank you to anyone who maintains or contributes !! ❤️

fresh basin
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Ah alright. Glad the wikis acurate.

sharp oak
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You're welcome. If you think the Wiki is wrong, you can always ask in #subnautica-chat and we'll verify it.

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Does anyone remember the infection page, haha... yea.......

fresh basin
sharp oak
fresh basin
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Ah alright. Reddit is the last source I would copy and paste.

sharp oak
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Ignis helped a ton, but it was still a lot of work. I saved the original version in a random folder. For fun.

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@fresh basin May I DM you 👉👈

fresh basin
sharp oak
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I can't send it

fresh basin
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I think that worked.

marble arch
dire halo
prisma glen
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why would they not put a image for the cuddlefish D:

high stag
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Coddle fish

high stag
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Ummmm is not mine lamo early art of subnatica think god they change it

glossy bough
high stag
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lol is alr

glossy bough
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Thxx lol

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Didn’t realise I was in wiki changes oops

high stag
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Same

sudden dove
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Reminder that this channel is reserved for discussions pertaining to the SN1/BZ wikis. Any subsequent off-topic comments will be deleted.

sharp oak
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@ivory steppe undo the change please

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the same vandal removed a chunk of the page

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I'll ban them when I get to my laptop

ivory steppe
fresh basin
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Did someone put modded content on the wiki?

sharp oak
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Tree Coves in Crag Field and void, smh my hand

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And then deleted an entire section

heady gulch
# sharp oak And then deleted an entire section

I'll give them a benefit of the doubt of
"They're just a little stupid".

because the visual editor does not meld well with the tabbers, and editing them through visual editor can be. well. last I checked it just doesnt work out nicely. I warned them with a day long block and told them the next time it happens, it'll be a week instead.

sharp oak
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Thank you ♥️

dapper falcon
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I think this has to be updated because of below zero

sharp oak
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Because they're two different pages, I think

dapper falcon
remote leaf
sharp oak
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Oh my, "were" meaning they didn't finish it

remote leaf
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Yeah

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Since the person doing it isn't here anymore...

sharp oak
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Oh

heady gulch
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I blocked the vandal indefinitely.

dapper falcon
remote leaf
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yeah

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that was the original crashfish concept art

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the devs consider it cute, and so a new concept was made, the old one became cuddlefish. this can be found in trivia sections on the wiki :)

shadow vigil
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Just made a short version of transfuser on polish fandom

true flame
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Alguien que hable espaĂąol?

sudden dove
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#off-topic, and English only please (hablas ingles, por favor)

ivory steppe
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I get that it's a singular cave, but it'd be nice to have.

cursive vigil
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im pretty sure theres a mistake in the wiki

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its about the nuclear reactor

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it says you can find its frags in mountains, blood kelp trench and sea treaders path but you can find them in dunes too

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i was playing today and i got my blueprint from a wreck in the dunes

cursive vigil
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im pretty sure they count because it says you can find the frags in wrecks in the mountains

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if its limited to dunes wrecks i thought one of the locations being called "wrecks" would include the dunes

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most likely not i guess

cursive vigil
cursive vigil
cursive vigil
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probably isnt meant to be like that

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yeah

cursive vigil
jade solstice
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the starting suit in BZ should prob be split from the page for the subnautica one

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as the first games's is Alterra made but the one in BZ is mentioned as XenoWorx property

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a creator isnt stated

sharp oak
jade solstice
sharp oak
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You could revert the change, the vehicles are already in the products section

jade solstice
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well they produce vehicles they dont use aswell tho

sharp oak
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Hm, it gets repetitive

jade solstice
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like the sunbeam

sharp oak
jade solstice
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yes but some are also used by themselves

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wich is an important diffrence

sharp oak
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The products section already includes all the vehicles, and it's right before

jade solstice
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yes but products and vehicles they use for themselve arent the same thing

sharp oak
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I'm just worried about the repetitiveness, maybe the vehicles should go away from the products section, and the vehicles section would go above it

jade solstice
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they also have vehicles they use that arent clearly marked as made by them

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like the Forkliftsä

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ill put a split for the AEP suits on my backlog for the maybes btw

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as the BZ one is , unlike the original one, not marked as alterra made in any way

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and even if it is, its diffrent suits

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the BZ one is the Beta of the Mk.III AEP

sharp oak
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BZ portion of the wiki has some outdated info

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Robin's suit used to be Alterran

jade solstice
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i see

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we def need legacy pages for the old story

sharp oak
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There is an old story page, somewhere

jade solstice
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i remember the time Robin and sam pages still had the old story mixed in, same for the planets

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not sure if its there anymore but the alterra page had a ref to a deleted databank entry

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oh lol it is

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i just left it in to not forget to legacy it later

Sandra, a alterra employee is in a vesper entry but someone delete it from the wiki

heady gulch
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The alterra pages and storying pages need refurbishing

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I already tried to tune up storyline page by including the alterra lore into the “before the events of Subnautica” section

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Truthfully it would be nice if there was more contexts to work with for the alterra page and storyline page

heady gulch
twilit panther
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Hey guys

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I have a question

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If the alien weapon shoots down all ships in the planet's orbit

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So would it be safe to land on the opposite side of the planet?

sterile veldt
remote leaf
# twilit panther So would it be safe to land on the opposite side of the planet?

@sterile veldt
One of the databank entries you find states the beam can bend around the planet.
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Quarantine_Enforcement_Platform#Data_Bank_Entries

Subnautica Wiki

Scans indicate this structure is composed of a metal alloy with unprecedented integrity. No matches found in database. Performing structural analysis. PDA The Quarantine Enforcement Platform is a...

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Specifically Energy Core

twilit panther
remote leaf
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This is channel is generally more for talking about the wiki itself btw. Not asking questions.

jade solstice
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wich is why it was able to hit the Mercury II aswell, in the arctic biom

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it does seem to fire via heat guide

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as the mercury II crew avoided the first shot via all of the ships flares

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that would also explain why disabling the gun is enought to stop the quarantine

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its heat guided not connected to the other facilities in its command
wich is why its enough to activate the console with a cured body

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the ONLY thing keeping up the quarantine is the gun lol
everything else we ever see or hear off is either

Research
Containement
data storage
or the Gate Facilitiy in BZ

fresh basin
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Reminder this is wiki discussion.

jade solstice
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yes it is

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or do you want me to mail the lore we need for the wiki to you instead

heady gulch
crisp olive
cerulean apex
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and it would allow them to get closer to try spot survivors from the degasi as that was the secret mission

crisp olive
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Ohhh yeah

sharp oak
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Secondary doesn't mean secret. Nobody was interested in the Degasi other than the Mongolians

cerulean apex
sharp oak
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Huh?

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Where does that come from?

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Last I read, they were scanning for them as a favor to the Mongolians, since the Degasi was a Mongolian ship given to Torgal Corp. Alterra and the Mongolians have ties and Alterra would like to keep them, as explained by Keen

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They were uninterested in finding the Degasi, they just wanted to show the others that they tried.

cerulean apex
sharp oak
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It makes no sense for Alterra to want an old, Mongolian ship

sterile veldt
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Not when they can fabricate something like the Neptune rocket so easily.

jade solstice
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@sharp oak i found info in a pda explaining sooo much

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first off the Aurora was sent only after the crew not the ship

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aaand

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the reason why the submarines and the all terrain vehicles were onboard was the degasi rescue

fresh basin
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Aren't they just scanning for life signs?

jade solstice
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the reason why the Prawn, cyclops and seamoth were chosen is that they were fit for aquatic planets

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Aurora Auxiliary Mission Orders

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that pda entry says they packed the all terrain / water vehicles for the search & rescue

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cuz the last know position of the degasi was near the Planet

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so the packed the stuff cuz if they were alive theyd be eaither drifting in space or crashed there

fresh basin
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What pda is that?

jade solstice
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the one i said

jade solstice
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@heady gulch have an idea with the vehicle section idea i added

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what do you think bout marking down what alterra teams use them

jade solstice
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aight

jade solstice
# heady gulch no

what about a list of cargo on the Aurora
like the phasegate stuff and the vehicles we know the packed for the mission (in the pda i mentioned earlier)

jade solstice
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@heady gulch noticed something and need confirmation

the pda in BZ speaks from XenoWorx point of view so stuff mentioned relates to their info right

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''PDA: Equipped with only a booster tank, Dr. Felicity Aman once escaped the underwater acid tentacle forest on planet Alpha671''

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when crafting a booster tank

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with how it ''advertises'' the tank. it seems to me like its talking about one of their employees

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similar to how tzhe alterra PDA informs us about the alterra restriction on knives in the fabricators

serene locust
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Why is the braincoral (The one that gives you 02) not listed in Flora?

cinder kestrel
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Coral is not flora in real life. To my knowledge, it's not flora in-game, either.

sharp oak
serene locust
sharp oak
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Indigenous lifeforms, above Fauna and Flora

heady gulch
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Anything unidentified should not be included either.

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so that means all unidentified shareholders, employees, etc.

jade solstice
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the only cut stuff i have still on are one employee and the shuttle wich ill remove again

heady gulch
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please remove anything marked as unidentified, anything or anyone named is okay.

jade solstice
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like the employee and passanger in pod 6

heady gulch
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on top of that. There's too much information in these.

heady gulch
jade solstice
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i added the ones mentioned in pdas only

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i can show you my sources in a bit

heady gulch
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alright, information on a page is helpful. but a lot of this is just a list of names thats dwarfing the page.

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anyone unnamed or unidentified provides no trivia or informational benefit to a reader.

jade solstice
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not sure how exactly it works but there is a way to have diffrent sections of a page show up in a diffrent style

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id have to look it up first tho

heady gulch
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I think the effort to include these details is well intended. But this is not a viable implementation.

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If you'd like to include a lot of the forgotten names of the employees and assets from the series, it has to be presenting information. not a running list.

jade solstice
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could shorten it maybe, like with the mining crew, instead of listing all, just list one and add how many we know off

heady gulch
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tabbers allow you to make different tabs to store information or details.

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but take inspiration from the aurora page.

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If you want to present information, please try to give context to it.

jade solstice
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we could make pages for the diffrent job things libe a tabber for the aurora crew and one for the mining crew and stuff like that

heady gulch
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for example. you can refit this into a section about the aurora crew, provide a link to the name (as you do here), and a brief sentence that describes their role.

jade solstice
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ill get into the idea

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i have my info for that in a google sheet

heady gulch
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Although many employees of Alterra's premiere flagship are unknown, all were declared lost with the ship; [Start going into information about certain people like the captain, second officer.]```
and you don't need a paragraph per person.
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its best to include 1-3 sentences on what role they played in the game.

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brief and to the point, so they can get a more descript version by checking the person's actual page

jade solstice
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ill prepare stuff for that and get back to you

heady gulch
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like second officer keen is a great example. you dont have to have his life story or details on the exact roles he played. Just include what is important in the context to the player. An example would be the post-crash.

jade solstice
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id just add thats hes the second officer n stuff for the role desc

heady gulch
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Instead of running with all employees, go with the notable ones who have a documented importance of some kind. You'll know if its important if it influences the story, or is meant to have an influence on player decisions.

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its just an information overload atm of names and non-essentials.

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and other information like this.

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some parts like this can be integrated with the lore of the main page.

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The current president of the Alterra Corporation is Indra Cormac[reference link]. You could just leave it as that because there might not be much info available about them to begin with. But that is notable to the lore of the alterra page.

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and another thing.

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the product list is redundant.

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Nearly everything you can contruct in-game, was conceived, buit, and proof-of-concept run by alterra.

jade solstice
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yeah but not all things are confirmed to be alterra how ever weird that may feel

heady gulch
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you could simplify the section down too:
Although Alterra plays a backseat role in the story (something to get the point across they're not holding your hand or pushing the plot forward themselves), their namesake can be found on nearly all human built technology. This is a reminder of their influence as one of the largest spacefaring tech suppliers.
Rough idea, dont do it word for word

heady gulch
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But is gets the point across better than a list of every item and creation alterra has made which shows up in-game.

heady gulch
jade solstice
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i checked and ive actually listed every truly confirmed product rn

heady gulch
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which is great btw, but that's better suited for a record or community compiled databank. The point of the wiki is to show information from the game or series, contextualize it and explain it as best as we can for a reader. So any curiosities from finding items - to obscure lore, can be a reach away.

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I love the incentive, but listing everything meticulously is the wrong approach.

jade solstice
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im used wikis that add every piece of lore

remote leaf
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@sand zinc feed this scam bot to the Reapers

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thank you mods

sacred sparrow
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Anime... Why. On. Subnautica.

manic field
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Because obviously Riley is an Anime Otaku or whatever.

sharp oak
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I don't think the added information in the pages is very important. It's like saying "this material is important" when all of them are. Rollback?

remote leaf
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Done

turbid ermine
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Screenshots on the table coral seem to confuse people.

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So I made new ones, if you want to change them.

sharp oak
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I will change them when I get the chance. Thanks, Ignis!

pulsar glade
small flume
# sacred sparrow Anime... Why. On. Subnautica.

Its because Fandom itself is a bad site to host stuff on
They'll insert random other Fandoms to try to intend you to get interest but the Fandom they show is never similar to the one you're already looking at

coarse leaf
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This is new, right?

limber parrot
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It's for Halloween

sharp oak
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And unrelated to the wiki.

pulsar glade
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why cant i see how much does cooked fauna give to my hunger bar...well not just that but there are also no pages for cooked fauna...

remote leaf
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Cooked Fauna don't have a separate page because you just check the corresponding fauna page

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I.e. check Peeper page for cooked peeper values

sharp oak
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That was a lot of edits, and there's still much to do.

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I don't have BZ for PC, so I can't see the exact speeds. I hope someone here volunteers to screenshot every possible swim speed in BZ--

limber parrot
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I mean, I can do it ig

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If you don't mind a non wiki keeper doing it

sharp oak
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Oh, don't mind it at all. Feel free to DM me the spam

sharp oak
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44 total edits from my account, omw to be #1 contributor!

limber parrot
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Who is the number 1?

sharp oak
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I don't think I can check that. My guess is SLScool.

limber parrot
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Andy you gotta beat them

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You can't be ceo if you aren't the #1 wiki monarch

cinder kestrel
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I'm in 19th place.

limber parrot
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Welp. . .

cinder kestrel
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If you ignore the eight bots, I'm in 11th.

limber parrot
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How do you see this?

cinder kestrel
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[[Special:ListUsers]]

willow vectorBOT
limber parrot
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Someone has 5178 edits...

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Uhhh ban them so Andy can be #1

sharp oak
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oh my

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bip has 19k

cinder kestrel
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Click the "Edits" cell to sort by edits--once for fewest edits and once for most edits.

limber parrot
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Ban everyone who has more than 44

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This is not acceptable

cinder kestrel
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That's about 103 people to ban.

limber parrot
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A worthy sacrifice

sharp oak
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Am I like, any special for the wiki?

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or just an active user

limber parrot
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You are a green wiki user

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So uhh most special I think

upper crescent
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Fndj

pulsar glade
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yes

pulsar glade
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yes

limber parrot
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Wiki discussion is for wiki discussions, begone

heady gulch
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Looks like we’re gonna be very busy next year

remote leaf
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time to make non Fandom wiki for SN 2

sharp oak
heady gulch
sharp oak
heady gulch
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<3

pulsar glade
# heady gulch <3

i always loved the short animation that is in the...uhhh...cover thingy (i have no idea how its called)

heady gulch
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Banner

manic field
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What's going on?

manic field
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Oh, Subnautica 2. That's cool.

ivory steppe
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Weird. After the release of that trailer, the Subnautica 2 wiki page had a handful of edits. I wonder why. zghostthink

pulsar glade
midnight basin
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quite a rich chat history

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I hope we can start contributing for the SN2 wiki once it's out (in EA)

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also, not on Fandom nor Fextralife

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both those sites suck

sharp oak
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we've already discussed alternatives

midnight basin
sharp oak
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Not sure we reached a conclusion but nobody is in favor of using Fandom again

midnight basin
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good

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that site is just awful

sharp oak
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But it's easiest to use

midnight basin
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have people looked into this?

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I've heard good things about it and seen some nice wiki made using it

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example

sharp oak
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I think everyone is aware of the alternatives, the conversation was already a while go

midnight basin
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sorry, I'm new 😅

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only skimmed through the chat

sharp oak
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All good, just letting you know that we know

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unfortunately, there's barely any information about anything, and we don't enjoy putting speculation on the wiki

midnight basin
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oh I'm not saying now, certainly not when all we've got are a few pics and a teaser video

sharp oak
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for now, we'll focus on correcting all the information on the SN and BZ wikis

midnight basin
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well then, I'll try my best to contribute once the official SN2 wiki has been established 😄

sharp oak
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It's been years but trust me, I just had to make a major edit on swimming speed and fins

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There's still a lot to be done

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I will notify you with any updates you might be interested, regarding the new wiki

midnight basin
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This series has been in the back of my mind for quite some time now

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Life's just been too hectic for me to dedicate myself to a videogame again

heady gulch
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Subnautica wiki is mostly undergoing correction and cleanups to make sure everything is up to date. some things were shaken up by merging below zero and subnautica wiki a few years ago.

Subnautica 2 and how it'll be handled is still to be decided. no concrete answers yet.

loud silo
sharp oak
sharp oak
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No, Minecraft took way too long to get there, with a ton of help.

loud silo
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And ive seen it happen in real time with a mod for terraria called calamity

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Its called significant vandalism

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(This wont work for most people)

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(This is a really stupid nonfunctional idea that happened to work one time and isnt worth the effort)

sharp oak
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You don't understand. If we vandalize the wiki, people won't move to the new one, they'll just have a bad experience, potentially hurting the game. It'd only work if the new wiki was easily accessible, but Google takes a while to put results at the top of the list.

cinder kestrel
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Minecraft took way too long to [the top of Google results]
And we still don't even know how its view count compares to the Fandom wiki's.

loud silo
cinder kestrel
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Well, I suppose I know, along with anyone whom the other admin chose to share the view count with.

sharp oak
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Can you say if the view count is good?

cinder kestrel
loud silo
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A group of around 300 people with too much time on their hands is a terrifying force

sharp oak
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I was obviously talking about the Minecraft wiki--

loud silo
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(I was unsure)

sharp oak
cinder kestrel
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A group of around 300 people
That's more than what minecraft.fandom.com saw at almost every point in time over the last 13 months.

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When Phoenix SC made a video about vandalism on the wiki, lots of people started vandalizing it. We probably got to more than 300 vandals at that time. That would be the only time, though.

loud silo
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Be fully aware that i dont think yall should move the wiki im saying that specific instance happened and was funny

limber parrot
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So what's the most likely platform for sn2s wiki

cinder kestrel
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As Mother Andy mentioned, we discussed this a while ago. It was towards the end of February this year.

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I don't remember our opinions on each potential platform were, though.

sharp oak
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We discussed alternatives but didn't reach a conclusion because it's still too early

limber parrot
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Sad I wanted definite answers

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Yall should let me be king of the wiki keepers so the answer is easier

sharp oak
limber parrot
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You take all the fun out of my job Andy

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I'm gonna go cry in 8k now

cinder kestrel
midnight basin
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just SN2 being made using that site

heady gulch
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can you all stop fantasizing over mass vandalism on subnautica wiki.

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we've had this conversation like 10 times except with different people each time

midnight basin
dim wolf
midnight basin
dim wolf
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Bruh why do they wanna do that?

midnight basin
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beats me honestly

summer kindle
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moving the subnautica and below zero wikis is a stupid idea

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creating the SN2 wiki elsewhere makes sense

late island
manic field
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But that's my two cents on the topic

summer kindle
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it’s not worth the effort

manic field
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That's just the wrong attitude, the Minecraft Wiki is overcoming that hurdle, so it wouldn't be impossible.

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And it's not like the current wiki is in an amazing or final state where the content is set in stone.

remote leaf
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It is possible to get the community to leave Fandom. But the process is very long and hard. I know from experience.

fresh basin
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Could you link the new article in all the old articles to transfer? Would that work?

remote leaf
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You aren't allowed to link to a non fandom site on pages, it goes against TOS

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(Even in the event the gaming company has their own official wiki, the fandom one can't link to it)

fresh basin
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Ah

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I've never edited wikis

sharp oak
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What's the punishment?

remote leaf
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They launch you into Venus

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Really, it depends on who did it. If the staff of wiki support it. They remove staff from them all and elect new staff

manic field
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Fandom killed off Gamepedia and almost all Gamepedia wikis forked, the Fandom wikis are now run by a skeleton crew of people who either furiously try to upkeep the wiki or leave it in a dishevelled appearance.

gilded onyx
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Fandom is overall just an asbolute dumpster fire, and I'd really love the idea of the wiki moving to another site, but I do need to agree that it would be an extremely tedious task.

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Its unfortunately a situation of "We have this wiki using a site that is extremely terrible user experience wise and can barely even be read through without an adblocker, but if we move off it would take forever, require an extreme amount of resources and man power, and overall would just take forever."

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Heck, with Subnautica 2 rolling around I argue that would make the idea of moving to another wiki even worse.

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No longer would it just be a situation of moving the wiki to a new site and porting all the info while ocasionally adding in new bits here and there, soon it would turn into a situation of having to constantly update the new wiki with all the new information recieved while porting stuff from the old wiki.

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Depending on how long the port would take and when Subnautica 2 goes into early access, I do suppose it could work, but its a really big risk, and thats just ONE possible example of the many different problems this kind of project could face.

fervent grove
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If you're gonna do it, now's the time, before any new info is out

floral chasm
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the company name.org then its the official wiki and move it there

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What was the company behind everything again

void basin
floral chasm
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I meant in canon

manic field
manic field
limber parrot
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Nahhh just let me move them /j

manic field
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Honestly, private hosting isn't a bad option, I did that with a Roblox Wiki.

limber parrot
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Wouldn't that involve the wiki being held on a personal server you personally have to maintain

sharp oak
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Riot is paying for LoL's wiki hosting

limber parrot
limber parrot
sharp oak
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Prob not

limber parrot
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Fair

manic field
limber parrot
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Ohhh okay gotcha

pulsar glade
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when will we see more screenshots of subnautica 2 in the wiki 😭

limber parrot
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How does someone become a wiki keeper btw?

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Just repeated well done edits and entries?

fresh basin
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You want to be orange?

remote leaf
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Once a year during a full moon we do battles in an active volcano to decide the next wiki keeper.

You get tickets to enter based on a good edit history

limber parrot
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So in other words, good edit history and a want for the position

remote leaf
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Yes

limber parrot
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I'm gonna become the god of the wiki

manic field
limber parrot
manic field
limber parrot
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I understand... a worthy sacrifice

heady gulch
limber parrot
sharp oak
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Hand to hand, bloodshed is blood shared

heady gulch
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improvised fighting with spears. you're allowed to use anything accessible to build one. stalker teeth, alterran knives, light sticks with duct tape. broken parts of PRAWN arm, etc etc.

limber parrot
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Can I use human teeth...

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The forest style

heady gulch
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thats not very spearminded of you.

sharp oak
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The weak are meat, the strong eat

heady gulch
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^

sharp oak
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I've earned my orange role, will you?

limber parrot
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Andy you're the herbivore here.

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We are the carnivores.

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Well omnivores but whatever

heady gulch
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but in actuality. the wikikeeper role is very scarcely given out.

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I do believe there's a component of SLScool's bot designed to assign it to people. but I know nothing about that stuff

sharp oak
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I feel I just asked for it and got it immediately, but I suppose I've earned it by now

limber parrot
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I'm the coolest person in the server so I have no doubt I'll get it eventually

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Wait we can just ask for it?

heady gulch
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In the past at least. It had to be a direct reccomendation or commendations.

limber parrot
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Can I recommend myself

heady gulch
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Whether its another wiki keeper recommending it, or maybe one of the mods / devs was watching the wiki chat and has seen you working and coordinating with wiki staff for a long time.. that was a long time ago though. etc etc.

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But you need the recommendation of other wiki keepers for it, idk if they have to be admins or not. I got my orange when Tueman- previously owner of the wiki - made the recommendation for me to receive the role.

limber parrot
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I see, well I don't think there's much to do for the wiki rn

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Small fixes I can think of but sn2 is the real task

heady gulch
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there's always something to do on the wiki, but you have to be actually looking for that something to do.

sharp oak
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Who knew that the swimming speed page needed that overhaul

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Or the infection page

heady gulch
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the wiki started in early access, and built up upon itself with time, alongside the game. we didn't have a set template or set formula. so theres always pages that kinda fell through the cracks and have been neglected.

limber parrot
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Idk but I enjoyed working on the swim speed stuff

heady gulch
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Atm with subnautica 2 stuff. We just work with what we have for now.

limber parrot
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I noticed crashfish are still noted on the bz wiki as damaging your oxygen level, they don't in sn1 so I'll test that out later to be sure

heady gulch
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i thought damage in general drops player oxygen

limber parrot
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Doesn't seem so

sharp oak
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Oh, I remember editing the crashfish page, seems BZ slipped

limber parrot
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Well I'll test it in bz

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It could be the reason it was on the sn1 wiki is because it was that way in bz potentially

fresh basin
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Kiro trying to become wiki keeper

limber parrot
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Shhhhh

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They can't know

sharp oak
fresh basin
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Can I fight Kiro in the volcano

limber parrot
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I use buh_bai

heady gulch
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disqualified.

limber parrot
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Aww...

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What if I use a human bone spear instead?

heady gulch
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But we mostly are in an Idle range outside of page cleanup and fixes. which is like i said:

you'll find plenty to do if you go looking for it.

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outdated images, stuff not following the right formatting, pages with dated numbers, etc etc.

sharp oak
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I have some tricks to find wrong info, but I'm not sharing them with anyone

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I want to have more edits

limber parrot
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So greedy

heady gulch
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if there's any page that needs to be reworked and reorganized.

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its the alterra page.

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its a hot mess atm.

heady gulch
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that page really needs to be reworked

limber parrot
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I can't say i really know enough about the grander lore to help there

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Like the politics of the trans-govs

heady gulch
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none of us do, thats the problem. because not enough of it has been documented in either games. I started the push to add the alterra significance into the wiki story timeline page.

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but still even with what has been documented, these pieces of information haven't been the best assembled together on the wiki.

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also considering we only use the context from the games themselves, and not from Natural selection 2

limber parrot
sharp oak
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We should start writing the lore bible ourselves, using game data and Obraxis' messages in the server

sharp oak
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I just forgot to edit Crashfish BZ

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Leaving it there for you

limber parrot
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It was worth double checking for accuracy

fresh basin
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Wow you're all being very productive today. #makekirowikikeeper

limber parrot
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That was depressingly easy to change

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Thank God this community isn't all too malicious

fresh basin
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~~ how mad would you be if I changed it back /j~~ ( joke not actually doing it

sharp oak
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Change all creatures to deal oxygen damage

limber parrot
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I'm still confused on why whoever made that edit thought they did damage oxygen level, maybe some EA stuff?

fresh basin
sharp oak
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Some pages had weird info that was never true

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Myths that got their way in

limber parrot
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Guess that's what happens when anyone can edit the wiki

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Some things end up slipping through unnoticed

fresh basin
limber parrot
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While funny the cuddlefish is significantly stronger than reapers, hardly a fair fight

heady gulch
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But like many mechanics (player throwing up and losing health if they eat too much) did get scrapped. and i wouldn't be surprised if thats one of them.

limber parrot
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Well i can be extra detailed and boot up a EA build lol

limber parrot
cinder kestrel
#

It's @willow vector , and you /verify to get it. For example:

willow vectorBOT
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@cinder kestrel, you have been successfully verified as wiki user "SLScool".

Subnautica Wiki

Discord user @cinder kestrel has been successfully verified as wiki user SLScool.

Discord user:

slscool

Provided by wiki user:

slscool

Added to:

<@&192900629797142528>

cinder kestrel
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I think I had Donya set it up to just require any role on the wiki.

limber parrot
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What would happen if I tried verifying..?

cinder kestrel
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Go ahead.

limber parrot
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Oh I can't even use the bot lol

cinder kestrel
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!wiki verify SLScool

willow vectorBOT
# cinder kestrel !wiki verify SLScool

@cinder kestrel, you have been successfully verified as wiki user "SLScool".

Subnautica Wiki

Discord user @cinder kestrel has been successfully verified as wiki user SLScool.

Discord user:

slscool

Provided by wiki user:

slscool

Added to:

<@&192900629797142528>

limber parrot
#

!wiki verify Kiro Bot

willow vectorBOT
# limber parrot !wiki verify Kiro Bot

@limber parrot, your Discord tag doesn't match the wiki user "Kiro Bot".

Subnautica Wiki

Discord user @limber parrot doesn't match the wiki user Kiro Bot.

Discord user:

kirobot

Provided by wiki user:

empty

limber parrot
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/verify username: Kiro Bot

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Welp oh well I tried

cinder kestrel
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Hit the "Check again" button or resend the !wiki verify Kiro Bot command.

limber parrot
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!wiki verify Kiro Bot

willow vectorBOT
# limber parrot !wiki verify Kiro Bot

@limber parrot, your Discord tag matches the wiki user "Kiro Bot", but you don't meet the requirements for any roles.

Subnautica Wiki

Discord user @limber parrot matches the wiki user Kiro Bot, but doesn't meet the requirements for any roles.

Discord user:

kirobot

Provided by wiki user:

kirobot

limber parrot
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Sad :<

heady gulch
#

there ya go.

#

either you're wiki staff, or you're recommended to have the role.

limber parrot
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I'll find all the errors >:(

midnight basin
heady gulch
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Yes. That is true

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“There is a page currently under construction” true statement.