📚wiki-discussion

[frail ledge]

On Speedrunning Subnautica: Below Zero we are doing Bingo. One of the tasks was to put pictures into Picture Frames. On the Wiki page: https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Picture_Frame_(Below_Zero), is says that the Picture Frames are scannable in Omega Lab and Phi Robotics Center. I looked all over Omega Lab, inside and out, and could not find a scannable Picture Frame. There is one in Phi Robotics Center though.

[heady gulch]

That might not be the only problem.. I’ll do a quick check through to make sure.

[hollow isle]

Idk where to put this but the wiki page for recyclotron is incorrect, “Being powered by an ion cube, the recyclotron doesn't require seabase power and can work inside an unpowered habitat.” Would’ve been really nice for what I’m trying to do but it just gave the message “recyclotron is not powered”

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Recyclotron#cite_ref-1

[crimson crescent]

You can change it if it's wrong

That's what a wiki is

U prob need some kind of account tho

[hollow isle]

Ye I checked and it needs some sort of account creation/authorization or something, and I’m on mobile atm.

[strange lodge]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Mobile_Vehicle_Bay_(Subnautica)
the kelp forest is listed 2 times under location

[cinder kestrel]

@strange lodge Could you be more specific?

Actually, let's just skip ahead to the point where you've said it lists Kelp Forest under Seabed and under Wrecks and I've pointed out that that's intentional.

[strange lodge]

ohh i thought that the seabed and wrecks weren't indented correctly lol, didn't realize they were categories

my bad lol

[ivory steppe]

Yeah, noticed this as well.

[molten tree]

Because of tons of spam from logged-out users, the wiki requires that you log in to edit

[ivory steppe]

That's fair.

[analog spoke]

Hey guys! I'm your new Wiki Representative from Fandom starting now! If you've got anything to ask, just let me know. (also if you're an admin of this wiki, please DM me, I have something for you)

[cursive vigil]

Helo, could you add something to the cyclops trivia? I found something that isn't there

[remote leaf]

what is it

[cursive vigil]

If you type item cyclops in the console you get this
It's uninteractable and unremovable but when you get it the game acts like you actually constructed the sub

[remote leaf]

pretty much everything ingame has an item form

just a thing with how the game works

[cursive vigil]

That's odd

I tried it with the seamoth and prawn but the actual vehicles spawned

[remote leaf]

sometimes overrides exist to force the thing to spawn normally

[analog spoke]

Hey there, I am Subnautica's Wiki Representative, I do not play the game myself (I don't even own it), so I can help you with wiki related requests or issues like CSS, HTML, etc, but I'm not the good person to reach out to content-wise! Hope this clears up the confusion !

[cursive vigil]

oki

[valid eagle]

kinda unrelated but you totally should play it it’s a really good game

[tawny wedge]

What if no mone

[heady gulch]

Suffer

[tawny wedge]

or

[cinder kestrel]

@solid houndYou'll get more success in a different channel, such as #subnautica-chat .

[solid hound]

Oke thanks!

[torpid glade]

hello, first of all I would like to apologize because I use a translator (I don't speak English very well) so sorry for the sentences that don't mean anything. I've been a fan of subnautica since I was young, of course I've finished the 2 games more than once and I'm still passionate about it today. I just want a date for subnautica 3 not necessarily precise but for example a year or an estimate. thank you for your answer sorry I think you must have had a lot of this question.

[heady gulch]

But to sum it up quickly:
Wiki team =/= dev team.
We are not part of the subnautica development process and decision making.

I’m sure you could email the unknown worlds entertainment team if you have fan input

[torpid glade]

thank ou

[mellow mango]

But its gonna be a long time

[mossy moth]

Can somebody add that there's an alien containment fragment in ||the deepest Degasi base||?

It's not in the alien containment page.

[hushed oar]

it's a physical alien containment

it's 100% alien containment

also

[slim notch]

guys

i think theres gonna be 2 new extinct creatures in subnautica 3 databank

[keen spoke]

id love to see that

[slim notch]

Me too

[unkempt pawn]

What makes you think they'd appear?

[heady gulch]

Fun fact:

The word “extinct” has a very specific meaning

When referring to the status of a species.

[warped bone]

Those are extinct so i wouldnt expect to see them unless the 3rd game takes place in the past

[warped bone]

Yeah like that the whole species DIED

[slim notch]

no like

i didnt mean it like that

i meant like in the databank

sorry

[marble bolt]

id love to know the context to this comment because as of now thare appears to be non

[west dome]

Gg

[valid eagle]

so the wiki says that reefbacks are the third largest creature overall (insinuating the first game) and ties with the sea dragon but the sea dragon is much bigger in this comparison using ingame models. was the reefback originally larger and the wiki needs updating or am i missing something?

[lapis quail]

The seatruck dock id is: basemoonpoolexpansion

[cinder kestrel]

Interesting choice.

[ivory steppe]

Added it.

Seatruck Dock page, btw. https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Seatruck_Dock

[clear gorge]

hey i noticed on the wiki that the jukebox discs page it doesnt have the track that was just added

its the trailer song used in the cinematic trailer. "rite of the deep" by steve pardo

its over by artifact x3j on an alterra site near there

[ivory steppe]

Added.

[cursive vigil]

I think it's a baby reefbag

[valid eagle]

Nah I don’t think it is. The juveniles don’t have the plants and corals on their backs when this model clearly does.

[heady gulch]

seems like bad info in general then.

I'll change it up on my spare time.

[valid eagle]

Thank you so much 🙏

Guess that was old info then and the more correct size would be that 64 meter measurement?

[heady gulch]

even if it were only applied to subnautica, the info would still be incorrect.

[heady gulch]

Unsure. Whenever we measure by model, we go off of pure speculation.

at some points we used size references of the player and photoshop to get rough guesstimations.
however, if a databank entry is released with conflicting info on size, then we abide by it.
Simply put it: what the game shows visually in terms of size can differ from what the databank says.

since I don't think the devs go out of their way to take a 1x1 meter reference to scale a creature up accordingly with.

[valid eagle]

The databank says 30+ meters but that can apply to any size technically as long as it exceeds 30 meters

Since the models clearly show it to not be the same size as the sea dragon I think in my field guide I’ll just say 30+ meters and call it good. Thank you so much for clarifying though it really helps a ton

[cinder kestrel]

at some points we used size references of the player and photoshop to get rough guesstimations.
Why didn't we set the game speed to 0, find the coordinates at both ends of the creature, and use the distance between the two points as the length of the creature?

[heady gulch]

oh nvm

its been a while man, I wasn't in charge of doing the numbers or taking the void pics lmao

[willow vector]

I have a new profile picture now. The Subnautica Wiki is—

[cinder kestrel]

The image was AI generated with Midjourney.

[hushed oar]

reefbacks are much more broad, and as such, have much more surface area

can anyone fix this? it may just be a common phrase but i think it's referring to robin ayou

[heady gulch]

why do people keep editing the pages to address readers in first person. It's so annoying.

[fluid lagoon]

because there's no barrier to entry so would-be comedians can edit pages

[clear gorge]

so what's going on here? im guessing from the fact that it has timestamps there's meant to be more.

it also plays after curing the frozen leviathan

[bright wren]

guys is there any info about what materials are the precursor bases made of? like what is the composition of the material.

[silent gazelle]

An unknown material, its said in the og game

[fluid lagoon]

do you think pavuz is trying to achieve total perfection on bart's page

what is that guy up to

[heady gulch]

Yup

[ivory steppe]

No doubt about it, lol!

[heady gulch]

Some users like focusing on specific pages and that’s fine. Especially if they’re doing a fine job at it

[brittle wraith]

Is Riley from the first game still alive in the events of below zero?

[median gull]

We don’t know what happened to him and his debt

[cursive vigil]

My guess is that Riley was put on trial for not paying the credits
Alterra isn't known to be best

[remote leaf]

There were originally gonna be databanks for his story but they never spawned naturally and eventually got removed

He basically told Alterra "Cancel my credit debt or Im giving the alien information to someone else"

[lavish arrow]

whats this channel?

[remote leaf]

Wiki team people being nerds

[lavish arrow]

whats wiki team?

[remote leaf]

For the Subnautica Wiki

[lavish arrow]

idk what this is so bye

[median gull]

What if he gave it to xenoworks and that’s why they got bought

[remote leaf]

He didnt

The cut logs have it where Alterra canceled the debt

They either had the choice of saying "No" then making no money as some other company gets all the credit

Or cancel the debt, and get all the praise

[late island]

I think the devs should put the Hover Lizard, Dragonfly, and Ice Dragon's models back up on sketchfab

as a little treat for the wiki

[ivory steppe]

Agreed.

[heady gulch]

wait they’re gone?

[late island]

They haven’t been on Sketchfab in years lol

and the Dragonfly never was, at least not publicly

[heady gulch]

That makes me want to cry

[ivory steppe]

A lot of models were removed from the Fox3D sketchfab.

[late island]

There's still a good amount up actually, though quite a few were taken down soon after being posted yes

[ivory steppe]

The only ones I remember still being up are the Arctic Peeper, Shadow Leviathan, and Void Cheli. Of course, I haven't been there in a while so yeah... you're right.

[spring wigeon]

Is fred actually alive?

[karmic vapor]

Yes we know alterra just evacuated the base in sector 0

[balmy mural]

It looks like the wiki needs to be updated to change the title/search etc for pages referring to Water Filtration Suit in Subnautica and Below Zero, because they’re not called the Stillsuit anymore That change was made quite some time ago

[west cloud]

iti would be nice if someone could add a list of all the voice actors for bz on the bz page

[sturdy elk]

!wiki ?subnautica Sea Dragon

[cinder kestrel]

@sturdy elk Why did you wish to do that?

[sturdy elk]

I thought it would give me all-powerful insight from Wiki Bot

[cinder kestrel]

For one, [[Sea Dragon]] is simpler.

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Sea_Dragon?action=edit&redlink=1

[cinder kestrel]

Am I surprised that isn't a redirect to [[Sea Dragon Leviathan]]?

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Sea_Dragon_Leviathan

[cinder kestrel]

For another, it won't tell you anything the page itself can't tell you.

Maybe this is a paid feature, but:

!wiki Sea Dragon Leviathan

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Sea_Dragon_Leviathan

Subnautica Wiki

Sea Dragon Leviathan

The Sea Dragon Leviathan is a colossal leviathan class fauna species. It is the largest aggressive creature of Subnautica. There are a total of three Sea Dragon Leviathans on the map: two in the Inactive Lava Zone and one in the Lava Lakes.

Category

Carnivores

Tab

Fauna

Description

Vast leviathan species with aggressive tendencies.

Attitude

Aggressive

Health

5000

Damage

• Bite:
​ ​ ​ ​ • Player: Instant kill
​ ​ ​ ​ • Prawn Suit 10-20
• Swat:
​ ​ ​ ​ • Player: 40
​ ​ ​ ​ • Prawn Suit: 11
​ ​ ​ ​ • Cyclops: 250
• Fire Breath:
​ ​ ​ ​ • Player: 12-72
​ ​ ​ ​ • Prawn Suit: 3-19
​ ​ ​ ​ • Cyclops: 500

Biome

• Inactive Lava Zone
• Lava Lakes

Active During

Cathemeral (Day and Night)

Length

112 meters

Debug Spawn

seadragon

[cinder kestrel]

I forgot that's what it looked like.

[median gull]

wait, theres bot commands

[cinder kestrel]

Yes, but haunting each command is the question of why you should use it instead of going straight to the wiki.

[languid zenith]

help

where do i go to get the drill arm

[rigid jacinth]

Into a different channel

[median gull]

that was genius

[glacial oar]

Why are the reaper eyes green at the aurora but black anywhere else

[median gull]

bro what

[glacial oar]

U never noticed?

[median gull]

I'm pretty sure thats not true

[glacial oar]

It is

[median gull]

well I'm checking

[glacial oar]

https://tenor.com/view/reaper-leviathan-scary-subnautica-gif-15057398

See

Green eyes

[median gull]

bro thats a early version of the game

[glacial oar]

If u go they still have green eyes

Only at aurora tho

[glacial oar]

First image I found

[median gull]

they have the same eyes as anywhere else

[glacial oar]

O

[ivory steppe]

To that guy who tried using the command. https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Gargantuan_Fossil

[fair topaz]

yikes

i think ther is a mod where this is in the game

[silent gazelle]

Yes but it isnt even near going to public access any time soon

[rigid jacinth]

There's more than one

[karmic folio]

A bunch of the stuff on the wiki isn't really up to date regarding below zero, like a lot of al-an's page is TBA

[radiant copper]

This is #📚wiki-discussion and that mod hasn't been released. Become a big YouTuber and contact the devs of that mod.. I guess

[ivory steppe]

So supposedly a friend of mine found this piece of cut tech on the RU wiki. https://subnautica.fandom.com/ru/wiki/Турбина Can anyone confirm this?

[jade solstice]

looks to be just one of the bounty things

its marked as one of those artifacts

[turbid ermine]

I don't think it was ever on the map, but yes it was in the game's files.

[jade solstice]

for some reason the english wiki just doesnt have a page for the alien tech

btw ignis i fiund an error in the wiki

the aurora wiki lists cargo bay 3 as were you go but you actually go down thru a collapsed hallway floor to a diffrent cargo bay and definity not 3

ots bay 4 as the doors say

[turbid ermine]

Edit it then.

[jade solstice]

@turbid ermine how would you call those big white bay doors

[jade solstice]

done

[chilly hill]

I think both of these 2 of Sam is incorrect (I think that the image is outated and isn’t robin a xenologist?

[ivory steppe]

In the earlier version of BZ's story, Robin was listed as a zoologist.

Although that portrait of her needs to be updated as her hair changed like halfway through the new story's development.

[worn python]

whait hold the frick on sam is gay???

[silent gazelle]

Yes

[chilly hill]

Yes

[cursive vigil]

ThAt'SpReTtYcOoL

[zealous patio]

Asked GPT-3 about BZ. It tried at least.

I wanna figure out if Davinci is proficient in french for the translations of the wiki

[cinder kestrel]

I guess it tried. I wonder where it got its information from.

[gilded onyx]

Hey, thought I'd post about this here, but there are WAY more unused commands then what is shown on the cut content page on the wiki, like, a L O T, however I feel like there would kinda be a problem with adding them all.
The page would be filled with JUST commands, there is like, a loooooooot.

Any ideas on how this should be handled? Maybe could have a small section in the commands area for each notable/known purpose command and then a big list for the commands that we have no info on or are just self explanatory/not notable?

[ivory steppe]

Just an idea but what if we started combining specific pages. Like the https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_Arches and https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Architect_Teleporters.

[hardy pulsar]

What materials do I need for the rocket in subnautica?

[viscid bluff]

the second one even refers to them as arches

alien arches*

we could just rename it to alien arches (below zero)

and have architect teleporters redirect to that

[ivory steppe]

We could just combine the name: Like Alien Teleporters.

[viscid bluff]

or we can just leave it

what are they referred to as in bz

[ivory steppe]

The same name as the page currently. "Architect Teleporters"

[meager marlin]

hi there wiki team, there is currently no page for the cyclops depth module 3😅 . It would be really useful to know how to get it!

[ivory steppe]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cyclops_Depth_Module_MK3

Same with the MK2. You need to get the MK1 Data Box.

[meager marlin]

huh? when i clicked on the crafting recepy for the mk 3 from the mk2 page, it said there is no text for this item

[glacial ridge]

it works for me

[jade solstice]

hey guys

the stillsuits pda entry got changed every intance of the word was changed to Water Filtration Suit gonna run an update in a little

[silent gazelle]

i mean, technically thats wut the still suit is lol

[jade solstice]

can someone load in the new image from the pda

as im on ps

and lol i just got a foul language warning for no reason

[cinder kestrel]

It's not possible for the bot to give a warning without a reason.

It's just a matter of knowing what the reason is.

[jade solstice]

cool can you help me out with the image

oh and one of the wrecks need an update one sec

wreck 11 list a blue cap and scannable Quilted Double Bed, both arent there

name change should be from the 2,0 right

cant change the image text rn

[jade solstice]

@ivory steppe

sry to interupt, dont have acces rn

can you change back one of the newest changes in the stillsuit wiki entry

trivia, the first one changr it back to stillsuit as that info shouldnt be changed

and i have no idea who the person who did that is here

[ivory steppe]

The latest edit made to that Water Filtration Suit page was made by me. It's no longer called the Stillsuit anymore so all info referring to it as the Stillsuit needs to be updated. Including trivia bits.

[cinder kestrel]

all info referring to it as the Stillsuit needs to be updated.
What is "it"? The item in the game? Nothing in the first trivia point refers to the item in the game (except "The name and function").

[ivory steppe]

Yes, "it" being the Water Filtration Suit. All that was changed was replacing the words "Stillsuit" in each trivia point with its new in-game name. Is that fine or should it be reverted back?

[cinder kestrel]

Did you read the first trivia point?

[ivory steppe]

Oh. I'm a dunce. 😂 I change it in a moment. 😛

[cinder kestrel]

I haven't edited the wiki in exactly three months and I'm hoping to keep up that streak for now and I'm being a jerk by hinting at what you did wrong instead of just outright telling you what you did wrong.

But you figured it out quicker than users on other wikis usually do.

[ivory steppe]

I honestly did not know it was called the Stillsuit in that series! But yeah, this was a big dunce moment on my part.

[jade solstice]

oh god i thought it was you lol

@ivory steppe also should change the modefication station trivia to stillsuit again, as that was what it was changed into

may help to show that that was changed longer ago and before the update

[cinder kestrel]

I don’t care enough to edit the misinformation out. Just add more for all I care.
@willow obsidian I've already gone more than 100 days without editing the Subnautica Wiki. I don't think I'll break that streak just yet.

Does this count as stalking you across servers?

[willow obsidian]

Very much so.

[median gull]

How?
I feel like I’m missing something

[sudden dove]

The only thing you missed was the fact that it's a joke.

[agile oracle]

Leave the kid alone

It was not funny

[gilded onyx]

I've noticed a lot of very outdated imaged on the wiki. Been thinking of perhaps trying to update them, or at the bare minimum get the obviously outdated ones updated.
What do yall think? Should I try and just update the obviously extremely outdated ones or try my hands at getting as many updated as possible?

Example of a not too outdated image (Note the different Titanium Texture)
Source: PDA Page

Example of an obviously extremely outdated image (From 2015 or prior)
Source: Seabases Page
Note: Could potentially re-use this photo to show how Sea bases used to look in earlier versions.

[subtle relic]

Update but have a catagory or a page for all the ancient stuff

[heady gulch]

Sure thing. With the vast multitude of images on the wiki, and the difficulty to peer review each n check which has changed through time and what hasn’t. There’s gonna be handfuls of images that are a bit dated to an extent you won’t notice unless you look hard enough

[gilded onyx]

Sounds cool! I spent a good amount of yesterday doing preperations. Later tonight if I get time I am gonna set up a Trello Board so I can document my progress as I work along

[heady gulch]

I don’t think a trello board is necessary, but to each their own. The only requirements is you follow the image guidelines on the wiki rules. I don’t remember if we have specific rules about what pre-existing game shader filters are or aren’t allowed. But stick with whatever is default to be safe.

[gilded onyx]

I usually create Trello Boards for my projects, something I use to help keep an eye on my tasks lol

[meager marlin]

is there a wiki entry for geothermal vents? The spiky rock formations that emit heat? The ones you can charge your cyclops with?

those ones

[ivory steppe]

There's already a page with that title for the ones in BZ.

[inland carbon]

the thermal spires? that's a whole biome instead of individual vents, isn't it?

[ivory steppe]

No, I'm referring to the large ones you can find in the Deep Twisty Bridges, Crystal Caves, and the Glacial Connection.

[ivory steppe]

If you wanna add info about these, the Junction section of the Lost River page would be it imo.

[maiden ermine]

Hi, would it be possible to update the "Koppa mining site" wiki page? [https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Koppa_Mining_Site]
It says Seatruck access through the main door is close to impossible, but it is pretty simple actually.
You take the truck cabin and gently drive it into the top side of the gate, where it forms a T-shaped opening, as that it the widest spot. Once you are as deep as it goes, turn sideways and wiggle a bit. Pop, you're in.
Mk 1 depth upgrade is recommended as the floor of the room is at max trucking depth. [which probably means two trips, because first accessible diamonds I found were in that room]

[inland schooner]

Where is this thing

Need it for the modules for seatruck

[maiden ermine]

Could you elaborate? Are you asking where the Koppa Mining site is? or where on the page to find the quote (second paragraph second phrase)?

[inland schooner]

The location

[maiden ermine]

Its all in the wiki page I linked.

[inland carbon]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Seamoth

Increases the vehicle's maximum crush depth, enabling it to survive greater pressure. Each successive module doubles the maximum crush depth of the last.
It goes +100, +300, +700, so each module adds the double of the previous to the upgrade instead of just doubling it, right?

[jade solstice]

actually it starts on 200 update 1 moves it to 300 update 2 to 500 and update 3 to 900

[inland carbon]

yeah, starts at 200, mk1 adds 100, mk2 adds 300, mk3 adds 700

[stray quartz]

So max is 900 meters? That’s pretty lame

[vale hull]

guess they didnt want you using seamoth that far down

[stone lava]

hey is subnautica crossplay?

[stray quartz]

Wdym?

[stone lava]

i just found out its not multiplayer 😦

[stray quartz]

Yeah lol

Hopefully subnautica 3 will be

They hinted it might

[stone lava]

sub 3?

whats that whens it coming

give me INTEL pls

@stray quartz pls give me intel i beg of u

[stray quartz]

We don’t know

It’s still in really early development

[stone lava]

oh 😦

[stray quartz]

All we know is it’ll have better graphics and it’ll have water

[stone lava]

well dangit

i really hope it has multiplayer

[stray quartz]

Same

[ivory steppe]

Let's keep this chat for the wiki only, kay?

[gusty epoch]

The wiki says there's a reefback egg, where can I find it?

[livid gulch]

link?

[cinder kestrel]

If you found it at [[Reefback_Leviathan]] or [[Eggs#Trivia]], then you should have the answer.

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Reefback_Leviathan
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Eggs#Trivia

[livid gulch]

aw((( so that huuuuge spade fish egg on display ||in alien research facility|| is actually reefback easter egg?
same thing about the shuttle bug egg i guess(((

[haughty cobalt]

The wiki is wrong about the jukebox music file location. The correct location is just "%UserProfile%\Music\Unknown Worlds\Subnautica" as I don't even have C:\Users[myusername] on my system and it still works fine. Didn't need to make a junction or anything.

[inland carbon]

is %UserProfile% not the same thing as C:/Users/[myusername]?

[stray quartz]

I wish reefback eggs got added

[misty dome]

especialy with the larger alien containments

[silent gazelle]

wdym larger?

[misty dome]

in the large rooms

the alien containments is larger

more space

[silent gazelle]

true, but reefbacks are like massive mini ecosystems themself so there isnt rly space for it

[misty dome]

fair but with eggs the reefbacks could be made smaller

like with the other creatures

[stray quartz]

Yeah they could just be mini

[sudden dove]

Reminder to only keep to topics about the wiki in here, folks.

[cinder kestrel]

Deleted messages?

[sudden dove]

Yep

[jade solstice]

well my message was about the wiki

tried to reach him about a recent change

[jade solstice]

@dawn tide a talk about some recent changes in the wiki

[cursive dawn]

Whats the Wiki

[inland carbon]

read the channel description

[cursive dawn]

Ah okay

[inland carbon]

[[Copper_Ore_(Subnautica)]]

[[Copper_Ore]]

hm. perm limited?

[cinder kestrel]

Why did you want to use those commands?

[[Copper_Ore_(Subnautica)]] and [[Copper_Ore]], sure, but what's the reason?

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Copper_Ore_(Subnautica)
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Copper_Ore

[inland carbon]

skipping having to go to the wiki page first if someone is looking for advice

[cinder kestrel]

Unfortunately, we found that most people just used the commands for seemingly no reason in this channel (and maybe other channels? I forget), so we disabled the commands for most users.

[willow vector]

Both the [[]] method and slash commands.

[inland carbon]

Alright.

Guess I'll just have to memorize the rest of the link as well.

[sudden dove]

The wiki has a great search feature, you can just utilize that and provide a link to whoever needs it.

[inland carbon]

That involves going to the wiki page to grab the link, the very thing I wanted to skip.

[sudden dove]

It's not difficult to do.

[inland carbon]

Just inconvenient.

Mainly with my slowpoke laptop that I have yet to replace.

[drowsy furnace]

All mods are great

[cursive vigil]

Agree.

[spiral pollen]

i remember when subnautica below zero had its own wiki

[leaden urchin]

just a question how can i get a version like a 2016 verison of subnautic

[rain radish]

U mean earliest access and early access?

There is a youtube vid on youtube made by the last bacon

Showing how to set ur game to beta “earliest access” on STEAM

https://youtube.com/shorts/MBwCX33lDAA?feature=share

Its 2014 version, i dont think there is a way to access other versions without asking the devs for a code/PIN/password (call it whatever u want)

And its only possible with steam if i know right

[eager flume]

depot downloading

[leaden urchin]

thank you!

[chilly cosmos]

i noticed there's nothing about feeding reapers on the wiki

[heady gulch]

Feeding behavior applies to a lot of hostile creatures.

It’s noteworthy for stalkers as stalkers have unique behavior related to feeding.

[sudden dove]

They don't. That's a very common misconception though.

[heady gulch]

huh, i stand corrected.

[cinder kestrel]

Unless you want to count metal salvage as food that they don't actually eat.

[silent gazelle]

wait so them eating peepers from ur hand isnt actually eating?

[cinder kestrel]

You could also say their unique behavior is their ability to land a spot in Bart's journal.

[silent gazelle]

or am i mixing reapers with stalkers

[cinder kestrel]

"They don't" "have unique behavior related to feeding."
I think that's what BumblebeeTuna is saying.

[silent gazelle]

ah

[cinder kestrel]

They react to food like others carnivores do.

[sudden dove]

Yep.

[jaunty hare]

hey idk if the wiki is outdated or not but the steam community says reapers respawn if killed and the wiki says they dont? Can you let me know which is correct but it also might respawn on pc but not on console (i am asking for switch)

[sudden dove]

Steam is wrong, they don't respawn.

[jaunty hare]

So its just pc?

do they respawn on switch edition?

[sudden dove]

I didn't elaborate for a reason lol. They don't respawn, full stop. Platform and game mode don't matter.

If someone claims they did respawn it was either A) a bug, B) caused by an update (extremely rare), C) they tweaked their game's files, or most likely D) they're wrong.

[jaunty hare]

ok

thanks

[sudden dove]

Np 🙂

[heady gulch]

The wiki has a lot of outdated info unfortunately

For example, the page for Sam doesn’t have the info filled in for her relationship with several characters including Marge

[cursive vigil]

so in theory is it possible to kill every aggrieve class leviathan and never see another aggressive leviathan on my save again and is it possible to also kill the ones in the lava zone? I know of the prawn suit with the grapple arm and drill arm cheat to ez kill them. but was scared to do it because I was told they would respawn. #saynotoleviathans

[silent gazelle]

no leviathan respawns except for the ones in the void

[cursive vigil]

sweet what about stalkers and gasopods.

[silent gazelle]

idk bout those ones, i leave em alone cause they dont normally out right attack me unless i go near one of their eggs

or if i took some metal scrap

[sudden dove]

Nothing respawns except the void leviathans, small fish, and warpers. If you have any other questions about the game, please ask them in #subnautica-chat as this channel is specifically about the wiki.

[smoky finch]

Warpers respawn in the first game.

[sudden dove]

True. Fixed.

[sudden dove]

No.

[warm violet]

Is there a certain format they want?

I might join wiki team

[cinder kestrel]

Head to https://subnautica.fandom.com/, make an account, press EDIT on whichever article it was you wanted to change, and make the wiki a better place.

[jolly swift]

For the page for Alexis Riedell, wasnt she, like, demoted because the sector 0 project wasnt gonna be supported anymore?

[ivory steppe]

No, ||you're thinking of Samantha Ayou. The funding towards the Spy Pengling Project was now being directed to the Kharaa Bacterial studies at Omega Lab. Alexis came to investigate what the planet AFTER the deaths of Sam and Paravan.||

[warm violet]

killed by patrick rock

[civic mist]

The solar panel table for effectiveness should be removed

its not accurate at all

[cinder kestrel]

What's inaccurate about it?

[civic mist]

everything

well depending on where you are

no idea where this was tested

[cinder kestrel]

where you are
Do you mean the biome, or . . . ?

[civic mist]

in the red grass areas the panels are way more powerful and in some other places its terrible

not sure if its purely biome or not

[cinder kestrel]

If you were to ignore depth and just compare the sunlight percentage to the rate of energy collection, is it accurate?

[civic mist]

I tested a base near pod 19? the one at like 300m and at 130m the panels only got to about 30% midday

never tested on the surface though

have to create a vertical tube up from the depths in some places to do that

pretty sure the panels get to at least 75% at the bottom in red grass areas

and that is down to like 150m IIRC

surprised someone haven't datamined the details yet

[turbid ermine]

It isn't like someone never did, more like someone who did never made a wiki account.

[civic mist]

good point 🙂

[turbid ermine]

The solar panel uses the sun scalar, the depth and a parameter related to the biome sun scale.

So indeed, it differs depending on the waterscape volume.

[civic mist]

so is that different on the surface as well?

even if the panel shows 100% at midday in one area the actual power output would differ?

[turbid ermine]

I don't know where you would have an atmosphere volume on the surface.

[civic mist]

uh?

guess I missunderstood

atmosphere is the air or above surface afaik 🙂

[turbid ermine]

It's the fog.

[civic mist]

ok, so the murky dark water in some biomes basically means less solar power

still, the table on the wiki should either be clarified or removed as it is misleading

at least state that the output depends on where you are on the map

so the sparse reef is terrible for solar 😄

[cursive vigil]

Wiki question: https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Habitat_Builder_(Below_Zero)#Exterior_Modules

Under exterior modules, the spotlight is shown. To my knowledge, the spotlight isn't in BZ at all? The link for that item points to the Subnautica page for that item.

[fervent grove]

RIP, better delete the wiki and start again

[heady gulch]

someone might have fixed it, i checked and All i see is the floodlight(BZ)

[ivory steppe]

Already fixed it! 😛

[cursive vigil]

Excellent. Also sad that it isn't in the game. Oh well. 😉

[sinful onyx]

I'm working on a podcast and wanted to know how much the creepvine seed clusters give you when you eat them and couldn't find anything on what exactly it gives you, but the wiki does say they're edible, i loaded up the game and they are inedible in the first game

They are edible for +10 H20 in BZ but Riley finds them revolting apparently

[outer sinew]

For the unusual doll wiki page, the image for it in the lifepod shows the doll with glasses when infact, it has none

(Kinda like the glasses version better tho. Dont know why they scrapped it)

[heady gulch]

Peculiar… uhh. So the story is there’s two version

Both were for mark to give away

But they couldn’t get in contact with them.

So they put one of the versions in the game- the one with glasses I think

The other one is warfstache

So… pretty odd if they swapped it.

[outer sinew]

They didnt use either. They scrapped both

Now its just...blank

[heady gulch]

Strange

[outer sinew]

Honestly, it would be cool if the devs added the glasses/warfstache back in

[sudden dove]

SN wiki is wrong about the infection. Turns out you aren't infected when you start the game, and you don't get infected until you leave the shallows. Source here #subnautica-chat message and here #subnautica-chat message

Relevant wiki pages https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Warper and to a lesser extent https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Kharaa_Bacterium.

[round prism]

I thought you obtained it when you first eat or drink something made from the fauna, because they would contain it.

Deep Shrooms are listed twice on the page about the ILZ, I assume this is a mistake?

Especially since it's in alphabetical order

and yknow, they ain't fish

[sterile veldt]

Eating the local food would seem to make more sense from an infection standpoint. If it’s airborne, then location shouldn’t matter.

[turbid ermine]

Even if it would, it is not how the game works. At least not for the player.

The infection is location based with the exception of the cure ||which is a cutscene|| and you can be at level 4 with the ||entry in the Disease Research Facility||. The biome goals of the ILZ are fail safes.

[sterile veldt]

I get that. Just doesn’t seem to make sense how it progresses.

[round prism]

Game progression wise, the disease is location based. Entering a new area will make the disease progress to a new level.

I think that realistically, as you spend more time on the planet you become more exposed to it

That's why entering the disease facility causes it to progress, as there's probably more exposure

[sterile veldt]

That part makes sense. When I said progresses I meant from a disease perspective, not game progression. But that's a very minor point to quibble about. 😉

[sterile veldt]

Test message. I'm not seeing anything new here since 6/15, but yet I keep getting an alert there are new messages...

[silent gazelle]

Spam messages constantly get deleted here

Cause this channel isnt actively used its more noticeable

[sterile veldt]

Ahh, that makes sense then. I keep checking and kept finding my old message as the last thing posted. LOL

[lost ruin]

wierd question.. im having a problem looking for like.. licensing information about the dialogue clips? im writing an original song which is a fan piece for subnautica, for a playthrough i want to edit.. i dont want to y'know.. i just want to make sure if its creative commons im using the right stuff in the description attributing it.. or if its not.. then to not get ahead of myself

can anyone direct me?

[ivory steppe]

You can dm Donya about that kinda stuff. She's the community manager.

[lost ruin]

ok cool. i wasnt sure if i would be jumping ahead of the process.. figured this was a good place to start.. and it was. Thanks 🙂

"dear Donya.. i feel unsafe. i dont want to get sued.. " 🤣

[stark crater]

What happened to ryley after subnautica 1?

[tawny shale]

I believe the current story is he returns to occupied space with a debt of 3 trillion credits (iirc)

It’s possible the second SN, or third in the series, will continue from there.

[stark crater]

What is iirc

And sn

[stark crater]

Yes, but after that, what happens to him?

[tawny shale]

Not sure

[tawny shale]

If I Recall Correctly

SN1, SN2, etc short for Subnautica 1/2

[stark crater]

Since alterra could just silence him with the kharaa infection info, since they wanted to use it as a weapon (bz)

[tawny shale]

BZ is not technically SN2, because it’s not a follow up/sequel.

[tawny shale]

They might have done, im not sure there was complete evidence though.

It was very murky and suspicious.

[stark crater]

Is that so? At the end she goes into the architect's world, looking for answers about things that happened in sn1 and the own bz, it happens later, i think it is kind of a sequel

[tawny shale]

The devs/mods can confirm.

The main character is different, so it’s not technically a sequel, though it does happen afterwards.

It s different story, plot line etc

[stark crater]

Ohh

Is there a release date for sn2 thenM

?

[tawny shale]

Not sure.

I don't believe there's an exact date, no.

[fervent grove]

DethPig is correct that BZ is not a direct sequel to Subnautica, and the next game is planned to be "Subnautica 2" but there's no info out on that atm AFAIK

[sterile veldt]

Interesting...

[stark crater]

So, in the Subnautica 2, is there also gonna be a explanation about what happened after bz's end? Both subnautica 1 and bz were unfinished 😭

[proper needle]

I don’t quite see how the first game its ending is unfinished? There’s not in specific much information about what exactly happened to the protagonist of the game but it’s pretty clear that he managed to escape just fine ^^

BZ leaves a lot of questions though yes.

[stark crater]

The history of what happened with ryley makes me feel like the story was unfinished, since it also leaves me with a lot of questions. Might just be me, tho

[proper needle]

I mean different people have different thoughts about things, that's all fine. To me it did feel pretty finished as for more the goal was to get off that planet and get back to wherever the protagonist came from. Which we succeeded in doing while also helping a bunch of other creatures on the planet 😛

But anyway, maybe that this should move to #subnautica-chat as I don't think this is really wiki related any more x)

[manic field]

All I have to say is Subnautica: Below Zero's newer story leaves so much more to expect and to be finished than what the original story intended, I'm still annoyed that Marguerit's finale or crescendo was never re-added or re-worked into the new story.

[sudden dove]

Just a reminder that this channel is for discussing content on the wiki(s), not a lore channel. Please use the appropriate game channels for lore discussion!

[heady gulch]

It’s a sequel.Trust me I’m shocked it is. The store page says it is.

Early in development it was a standalone expansion, but in full release it’s considered a sequel iirc

[silent gazelle]

odd everywhere i go asys that its not considered a sequal

[heady gulch]

Personally I don’t, as in development it wasn’t. but that has changed.

[silent gazelle]

by everywhere i go i mean discord wise

[tawny shale]

Tuna says it isn’t.

What do you mean by “sequel”?

I know it’s afterwards, in the timeline, but it doesn’t follow the same events.

[sudden dove]

It's a "sequel" in the sense that it happens after the events of the first game. It is not however a direct sequel. It's not Subnautica 2. The devs have never stated this and have even refuted it. The only people calling it 2 are people in the media.

Subnautica 2 will be the next game in the series.

[tawny shale]

Thank you señor.

[livid gulch]

will?🥺

[remote leaf]

I'm late but there were actually cut databank entries that one could access with console giving some story over what happened to him. since they got removed they are non longer canon

to summon them up short

ryley basically told altera "get rid of my trillion credit debt for me or else I take the proof of advanced alien life to another company"

[stark crater]

Oh

Thanks

[sterile veldt]

Cut content shouldn’t be considered canon. The cut story may well be rewritten for the next game.

[manic field]

The content will most likely be repurposed.

[sudden dove]

Normally I would agree but the devs have said that Ryley is living comfortably.

[sterile veldt]

I’d hope so, he made the planet safe for Alterra to land on.

I eagerly await the next game to find out more. 😎

[junior rampart]

i wonder where bro going????

did he arrive on earth????

[ivory steppe]

The nearest interstellar phasegate. Also this channel is for discussing wiki stuff.

[manic field]

Oh yes, I'm the newest active wiki Administrator, so yeah that happened. Talk to me about content, editing and template questions/issues.

[sudden dove]

Welcome 🙂 did you replace SLScool or working alongside each other?

[manic field]

That is the intention, currently myself and TerranHawk are the only staff members who are actively editing right now.

[sudden dove]

Role assigned.

[manic field]

Why thank you, my current goal is restoring all the lost videos when the two wikis were migrated and ensuring content is accurate and being displayed properly.

[sudden dove]

That will be immensely helpful.

[willow vector]

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[cinder kestrel]

That also works.

But yes, I am fairly dead on the wiki.

[manic field]

Also another project of mine will be cleaning up [[w:c:subnautica:Cut Content (Subnautica)]] and [[w:c:subnautica:Cut Content (Below Zero)]].

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cut_Content_(Subnautica)
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cut_Content_(Below_Zero)

[manic field]

They're way too long.

[cinder kestrel]

We've set subnautica as the default wiki, so [[Cut Content (Subnautica)]] and [[Cut Content (Beloe Zero)]] work.

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cut_Content_(Subnautica)
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cut_Content_(Beloe_Zero)?action=edit&redlink=1

[cinder kestrel]

If you type things correctly, that is.

[sinful onyx]

On the bone sharks page it says they used to be able to damaged the cyclops and the page uses the word "submersible" which is the wrong word as "submersible" applies to a vehicle without enough power to leave port and return to port.

[silent gazelle]

the way i see it used just means a vehicle that can go underwater

[ivory steppe]

I'm pretty sure a submersible is just an underwater vehicle used to explore underwater.

[silent gazelle]

yea its an underwater ship

[silent gazelle]

yea no that doesnt mean it doesnt have enough power to leave port and return

[sinful onyx]

What does it mean then?

[silent gazelle]

submersible literally means a vehicle that goes underwater

you look up submersible and all u get are submarines

[sinful onyx]

But the difference is how it goes to where it's supposed to go

[silent gazelle]

google literally says submersible is the right word tho

[sinful onyx]

It can be the same thing if you drop the submersible at port

It also says it isn't

[remote leaf]

cant we just agree the english langauge sucks?

[silent gazelle]

im literally looking at the word submersible in images and all im getting are photos of vehicles designed to operate under the surface of the ocean

[sinful onyx]

It has to be transported via a boat or larger sub

[sinful onyx]

It does but that's not the point here, if you're gonna go out of the way to use submersible, it should be right.

[silent gazelle]

it is being used right wdym

submersibles dont need docks yes thats true, but it doesnt mean its not the right word

[sinful onyx]

What is moving the cyclops into the water?

[silent gazelle]

nothing because it made in the water

[sinful onyx]

And that makes it a submersible?

[silent gazelle]

it makes it a submersible because it only works under water

[sinful onyx]

It's actually made above the water but close enough

[silent gazelle]

its made above yes, but it fall into the water, and can only operate under the water

surface*

[remote leaf]

eh

[silent gazelle]

which makes it a submersible

according to google

[remote leaf]

I will just change it to say submarine, that's what the cyclops wiki page uses anyways

[sudden dove]

You guys are arguing a ridiculous semantic. It's really not that important.

[remote leaf]

keeps it consistent

[silent gazelle]

ik but like i have no idea how a submarine isnt a submersible

[sinful onyx]

I literally sent an image to chat on how they're different

[sudden dove]

Maybe move it to #off-topic if you're done discussing the wiki?

[sinful onyx]

Wise

[silent gazelle]

before i move, i just realised my stubbornness lead me to not even look up the difference, ima just go ahead and admit im wrong 🙃

[sinful onyx]

🙂

[manic field]

Currently going through and eliminating any interwiki prefixes from imported pages, since [[w:c:subnautica is now redundant since all content is now on the one combined wiki.

[sinful onyx]

On jochi khasar's page in the post crash section it says "it is likely Khasar died when his Lifepod impacted the surface." I disagree because he later made the high priority radio message. So he couldn't have died on impact, maybe heavily injured leading to death but he couldn't have died then

[cinder kestrel]

High priority automated message from Aurora Lifepod 13
He didn't personally send it.
'Jochi Khasar. I said Khasar! Why do I have to record this anyway?'
I doubt he would say that as he's dying.
Send immediate burial detail.
He's dead.

Unlike the other lifepods, his does not start with "Playing pre-recorded distress call..."

[sinful onyx]

I assume due to the high priority it'd be automatic instead of a distress call

Sending burial detail doesn't have to mean that he is %100 dead, it's possible that they just wanted to make sure he was ready to be buried as soon as possible

You might be right, either way, there's not enough information to definitively prove my view of it.

[toxic eagle]

he is a more important person i guess

[sinful onyx]

Exactly, that's why I assume it was automatic instead of the normal sending out a distress call. It's possible that he had to record it before the crash "just as a precaution" because of the "why do I have to record this?" Line

[silent gazelle]

that makes sense to me

[dawn atlas]

Submersibles need motherships, they can’t operate on their own

Submarines can, however

I think that’s the distinction

Either that or size IMO

[wild frost]

The Time come

[manic field]

I think including mods into the wiki would be somewhat beneficial.

What do you think @cinder kestrel?

[cinder kestrel]

Sure.

[cursive vigil]

Good day,

I know it sounds ridiculous, but the Ukrainian wiki is alive again. Despite the fact that it has been shut down twice already. Is it possible for you to connect an interlingual link from the English wiki side? Since the material has been lost again, we are not yet able to connect the language link from our side. 😅

[dawn atlas]

^ Replying here in the hope this can get the message above seen asap

[balmy mural]

Please add controls for how to move the cyclops down, for both console and PC. This question gets asked a LOT in the Subnautica chat so it would be really helpful thanks

I don’t edit wikis or I’d add it myself

[warm drum]

Noticed a small capitalization mistake on the BZ dialogue site, thought id mention it
Would fix it myself but apparently i need an account for that

[sudden dove]

This is not the channel to ask. Please use #subnautica-chat

[eager roost]

I think there should be a footnote somewhere on the underwater islands wreck that you need prop cannon to get the last blueprint

[eager roost]

Also the floating air pump glitch should be removed as its patched

[light oasis]

I feel like we need a lot of realistic info in the wiki, by this I mean things like, speeds, and bite forces mainly for the leviathan creatures. (If this is already a thing, someone please enlighten me)

[heady gulch]

No.

Really the goal of the wiki is to provide guides and detailed information about the content of both games in comprehensive readable pages.

Because of that there can be a fine line between valuable information, and bloat. Generally drawing real world parallels, fun facts, or other non-gameplay related details would be saved for the trivia section on any page.

Realistically we can’t explain things like how Riley can carry entire creatures in his inventory (large fauna hatched from eggs) or other details like that.

[light oasis]

I powerscale

which is why i need this type of info

Mainly for the sea dragon

In power scaling terms "we can’t explain things like how Riley can carry entire creatures in his inventory" If this was true then Steve from Minecraft would be weak, and wouldn't be able to carry over 2 million tons. In reality we cant explain it, however, im not doing this for realism, im doing it for power scaling. Ive already got the sea dragons strength to island level, and with a small calc, i can work its speed. However, i would like for more info similar to speeds, as it would provide information that cant be debunked or disproven

Thanks anyway

[heady gulch]

well heres another issue. consistency.

unless its in trivia. including information like..... power scaling? (comparing a persons strength to island level is not realism). speeds, etc etc. you're going to have to then do it for all fauna pages too.

[light oasis]

The vs battle wiki has the sea dragon as a page, using information from that + the pda, I've managed to do that. Its very easy, and the feat ive used and the method is more like rock paper scissors, The sea dragon could produce a force of over 300 tons (Said in the subnautica wiki) This already puts its ap at small town, thats how power scaling works, + im working on most leviathans

Also one last thing, you said "comparing a persons strength to island level is not realism" Which yes, its not realism unless stated in the game, which the sea dragon taking down the disease research facility was, if you wanna debate about the disease research facility's durability then im alr with that

Ima go raise a cuddle fish now

[heady gulch]

yeah i can assure you none of that is going to go into the pages.

however, certain details are very well suitable for the trivia sections.

[light oasis]

I didn't mean all that, just like speed is all i want really

alr

thanks atleast

[sudden dove]

Ask in #below-zero-chat please, this is for questions about the wiki.

[cinder kestrel]

Or check [[Eggs]].

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Eggs

[cursive vigil]

Okok

[sinful onyx]

So you're saying I'm gonna have to figure all that out on my podcast without the help of the wiki? Damn.

[heady gulch]

Hahahahahhaha

Absolutely

[sudden dove]

Wrong channel my man

[spare terrace]

then what channel TT

[sudden dove]

If that was for SN1 then #subnautica-chat

[turbid shard]

On the wiki and most maps it says Marguerite's base is in purple vents. I checked the location and it says lilypad crevice. Can someone tell me why every map is wrong about the location? Or is it me

[sterile veldt]

Possibly it was moved during Early Access? Most of those maps are ancient.

[turbid ermine]

It's technically below Purple Vents, but in its own biome.

It's its exact location.

But saying it's in Purple Vents is like placing the shadow on this surface map and saying one is in Purple Vents, it doesn't make sense.

[turbid shard]

I double checked. It says its in purple vents but it is in the lilypad crevice mini biome

[normal flame]

Lilypads crevice is the entrance to the area but her base is under purple vents

But in-game it lists her base as it's own biome when you F1

' Marg_base' or somethin

[ivory steppe]

Is this because the Minecraft wiki was moved off of Fandom?

[cursive vigil]

Me and Shadow were talking about it the other day. It's unusable on mobile, there are too many ads to use it without adblock, and one of the ads is an entire youtube video (normally Honest Trailers) which take a lot of mobile data and time to load

[heady gulch]

No, as far as I know at least. I don’t think I’m at liberty to go in depth on why.

[edgy cave]

Is Subnatica the call of the void going to be a new game or a update?

[sharp oak]

Wrong channel. Also, it's a fan-made mod for Subnautica.

[heady gulch]

Unrelated to the wiki, sorry. I’d reccomend checking to see if they have their own discord server

[silent gazelle]

Aci's discord server is the call of the void server (figured i'd add this) and as andy said, its a fan made mod concept still in the works

[rustic void]

I did some practice and figured the IDs for tablets aka precursorkey_purple, orange and blue are missing on the SpawnIDs list https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Spawn_IDs_(Subnautica)#Equipment
I don't have a fandom account and wonder if someone else can add them?

LOL feces as first url picture

[rustic void]

Forget about this... I was told it's there. It is my fault blind sometimes.

[jade solstice]

aight-

time to get back into this

[finite kiln]

Changed the Custom Gamemode, it was out of date and is no longer earning achievements anymore. The edit was made by me.

[finite kiln]

Changed the Snow stalker baby behavior, if needing some fixing go ahead.

[finite kiln]

Who tf?

Lmao.

[cinder kestrel]

Someone on July 12.

[sterile veldt]

Aliens…

[heady gulch]

that flew under the radar for me as well,

[cinder kestrel]

I wasn't really anywhere on Fandom that month, so that's my excuse for not noticing.

[finite kiln]

[hollow glacier]

question how large is 4546b is it around Earths size, Mars size or could it be moon sized like Europa?

[sharp oak]

It has the same gravity value as Earth, although this channel is for the Wiki, not lore.

[cursive vigil]

0.95 earth size or something like that

[sharp oak]

#📁wiki-changes message What do you do about these trolls just randomly deleting stuff from pages?

[cinder kestrel]

I do #📁wiki-changes message .

[heady gulch]

I wouldnt outright call them trolls. often we have users come in who make edits to pages that they feel are "optimization".

and if its a bad decision- especially one that would require changes to be made to nearly all pages, I'll undo them- or someone else will.

But those that improve the page, formatting, etc, we dont intervene.

[sharp oak]

Sometimes they delete text with no explanation, and this Sippy person had already been making trouble on threads. I don't think they're trying to be helpful

[heady gulch]

people deleting stuff with no explanation is a pretty common occurance, as for the other problem. I'll look into it

Seems like they have no post history on the threads.

although they did make a nonsense page, one I deleted earlier in the week. I'll keep an eye on them.

[rustic void]

I'm wondering why the article about the Water Filtration Suit is still named "Stillsuit"? For me it's confusing and I think new players are more confused about it. The debug and spawn ID has changed into waterfiltrationsuit since it was renamed. As locations there are Dunes Wreck and Mountains Wreck but this playthrough I found it in the Bulb Wreck and I found it there not only this time.

I still don't have a fandom account. So I can't do any changes myself.

[heady gulch]

@cinder kestrel if we change the name on the page, will all links to said page be updated as well?

[cinder kestrel]

They will because I'll tell SLSbot to. Otherwise, all links to the page will still say [[Stillsuit]] or whatever.

But it'll still redirect them to the Water Filtration Suit page when they click on [[Stillsuit]].

[remote leaf]

personally, I think the names on other pages should be updated for consistency

[cinder kestrel]

Yes.

[remote leaf]

redirects like that should be more of a bandage thing, to avoid any links that werent updated

[cinder kestrel]

Or when you often want a link to appear a certain way. For example, https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Zombie#Drops has [[rotten flesh]], which is a redirect to Rotten Flesh. (If that was the only time the MCW wanted to use lowercase text to link to Rotten Flesh, they would have instead done [[Rotten Flesh|rotten flesh]].)

[remote leaf]

ah yeah, minecraft wiki is lowercase when it uses item names

[cinder kestrel]

I can't think of any pages on the Subnautica Wiki that we frequently link to with a specific text.

[remote leaf]

but anyways, the name is officially Water Filtration Suit, and the page itself is still named Stillsuit (Subnautica)

so page name, should be update to be more consistent

and there is still the whole

Subnautica vs Below Zero page thing we have going on

which I think just leads to an overall mess when a fair amount of things are the same

[cinder kestrel]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Stillsuit_(Subnautica)
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Stillsuit_(Below_Zero)
Now that I've update the navboxes, those are all the pages that need updating.

[remote leaf]

there the bot goes

[cinder kestrel]

Since there's so few pages to change and it manifests in a few different ways, I'm doing it manually.

[remote leaf]

ah

[cinder kestrel]

I've chosen to only update links, so that is all I've done. Feel free to tackle everything else that needs to be changed. Here are the articles that still have "stillsuit" in them:

Aerogel (Subnautica)
Blueprints (Below Zero)
Blueprints (Subnautica)
Copper Wire (Below Zero)
Copper Wire (Subnautica)
Cut Content (Subnautica)
Data Boxes
Databank (Subnautica)
Dialogue (Subnautica)
Equipment
Fabricator (Below Zero)
Fabricator (Subnautica)
Reclaimed Water (Subnautica)
Robin Ayou
Spawn IDs (Below Zero)
Spawn IDs (Subnautica)
Synthetic Fibers (Below Zero)
Synthetic Fibers (Subnautica)
Update History (Below Zero)
Water Filtration Suit (Below Zero)
Water Filtration Suit (Subnautica)
Wrecks```

To my surprise, that message takes up more space on my laptop than on my phone.

[sharp oak]

I don't know who is LoneSurvivir but the Gas Pod page changes are not very good, at least the "easily causing devastating damage" part (it was better before)

[cinder kestrel]

!wiki test

[willow vector]

I'm fully functional!

Response time

Discord

401ms

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica_Wiki

313ms

Shard: 15

[cinder kestrel]

So if it works here, then . . .

[supple surge]

I made this banner thing (the one on the right)

[heady gulch]

That’s interesting, I wonder how well it fares on mobile app/browser

Accessibility for pc, web mobile, and mobile app users is something we have to consider

[supple surge]

It can't function on the mobile app because for some reason Fandom doesn't allow you to use the "style" tag on divs on Mobile, at least from my testing. You could fix this by adding the style tags as CSS classes.

[heady gulch]

SLS cool would know this better than I do. Personally I like this idea a lot. Like REALLY like it.
As long as it works on mobile- as mobile accessibility is considered a priority (statement made by a previous community manager). and some things (like tabbers) are not very agreeable on mobile last I checked.

@cinder kestrel whatcha think on this?

[supple surge]

I know that mobile compatability is important, that's why I haven't put it on any pages. You have to use classes and you have to put the mobile styling on the MediaWiki:FandomMobile.css page if you want it to work on mobile, since you can't just use style="property: value;" on your divs for mobile.

[cinder kestrel]

Here's it written in CSS for you. Since this is presumably going to replace [[Template:SubnauticaLink]] when it's done, I named the CSS styles accordingly.

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Template:SubnauticaLink

[cinder kestrel]

I recommend manipulating it yourself on [[Special:MyPage/fandomdesktop.css]] and [[Special:MyPage/fandommobile.css]], finding something you're satisfied with, and then letting me know so I can copy your CSS into the site-level CSS pages.

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:MyPage/fandomdesktop.css
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:MyPage/fandommobile.css

[cinder kestrel]

The color contrast between the links and the background is fine on dark mode, but it's not so good on light mode. Once you finish making it look good on dark mode, I recommend specifying the colors with theme-specific variables (see lines 6-13 on [[MediaWiki:Fandomdesktop.css]]).

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Fandomdesktop.css

[rustic void]

Hi thanks for changing the Stillsuit article into Water Filtration Suit. Can you please do some more changes? Still have no fandom account.

1. The debug and spawn ID has changed too its waterfiltrationsuit now. You can try this for yourself in console. See screenshot for changes related to waterfiltrationsuit.
2. Please add Bulb Zone to locations. The Waterfiltrationsuit Databox can be found in Bulb Zone Wreck everytime. Databoxes are static they don't change or spawn randomly.
3. The picture file for the Water Filtration Suit got lost on all pages.

[bitter dock]

I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, but I've put a carry-all in the Cyclops without trouble, contrary to what the wiki says.

[cursive vigil]

Crabsquids won’t attack you if you’ve hatched and realeased them, even though the wiki says they will

[rustic void]

Did you release it beside your base?

[cursive vigil]

yes

[sharp oak]

They will attack your vehicles, though

[cursive vigil]

so will every hatched creature

the wiki makes a point to mention crabsquids

[sharp oak]

Ampeels don't bite, but their shocks hurt, kinda like hatched crashfish explosions when you slash them.

[sudden dove]

Yeah and the crabsquid attacking players was patched out. That's old info.

[heady gulch]

I can’t speak on 1.0, but pre 1.0 crab squid’s were weird when released from containment , if you got too close- example went right under their mandibles- they would attack you. But otherwise they’d leave you alone. And they would attack your vehicles.

[frank cipher]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Dialogue_(Subnautica)?so=search#Biomes there's a blood kelp biome dialogue missing from here
"Short range scans show a cave system rich in fossilised remains beneath this area"

[heady gulch]

#📁wiki-changes message thoughts on this? In the past we opted to keep a layer of separation between below zero and subnautica based articles.

[broken dove]

Hi, i wanted to ask the devs, can u give us more info about the gameplay, creatures, realise date etc?

[cinder kestrel]

I have no opinion on the QEP change.

@broken dove What kinds of information do you want to see on wiki pages?

[rustic void]

I'd like to have a Subnautica site or map with all PDAs to find with their coordinates. I thought there was a dedicated site in the wiki but I can't find it.

[sharp oak]

mapgenie.io has the PDAs too

It's usually the 2nd result when you look up "Subnautica map"

[rustic void]

I know this but I want this as Wiki site.

[sharp oak]

The wiki doesn't have an interactive map

[rustic void]

It's not only the map. The thing is I want a fast reference to look up how many PDAs are to find on a certain place. Best with their "Title" and to what Storyline they belong plus their place and coordinates. Something like a dedicated PDA site:
Followed by a table like the Crater Map site in the wiki.
Jelly Shroom Cave
| Degasi Survivors | PDA "Title" | Coordinates |

This would be helpful for a quick reference for some questions here on this server.

[sharp oak]

mapgenie.io already does it perfectly, it shows the PDAs on the map, title, coords...

It'd be redundant

[rustic void]

Yes but does that matter. I prefer to have a solid source for everything in one place - The Wiki. Not switching platforms and what I don't like on only the map I have to count them every time new because I forget how many. I'd use this info and I'm sure it will appreciated by others too.

[heady gulch]

No.

Mapgenie.io is a separate entity. Not only separate- but a business that offers premium paid services to access certain features on their site. Like no ads. Implementation is beyond me. And more importantly- communications and getting permissions from the map maker and mapgenie.io isn’t something I can see happening.

As far as PDAs and locations go, each biome page has notes on important locations with coordinates. wreck pages list their biome, and what PDAs can be found in or around them.

The dialogue page contains all PDA information (I don’t know about coordinates), however that page is all the dialogue of the game condensed into a page.

I have to agree with Andy Landy here on this one.

[rustic void]

I tried to figure out in numbers how many abandoned PDAs are out there to pick up and where to get the whole story. A journey through Wiki articles.

Jellyshroom Cave
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Jellyshroom_Cave
Nothing about how many PDAs there to pick up. Or that there are PDAs at all to find. Same as in any other biome sites.

Here a Data Bank Entry which is triggered by picking up a PDA from the foundation. But this info related to PDA is missing.

Dialogue (Subnautica)
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Dialogue_(Subnautica)
Radio messages only no voice logs collected from PDAs at all. So the Degasi story is missing on this page by design. That's ok.

Databank (Subnautica)
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Databank_(Subnautica)
It includes all PDA entries and voice logs yes. But here you also can't get the info to how many you can find about one topic here. Like Degasi Survivors (Number) Jelly Shroom Cave (7)

Wrecks
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Dialogue_(Subnautica)?so=search#Aurora_Survivors
Yes they include info about PDAs to pick up. But when you start clicking the links from Databank (Subnautica) it leads to the Wrecks page you have to search for the mentioned Wreck because it's not linked directly.

But what about the PDAs you find on dry land? Or in the Jelly Shroom Cave? Deep Grand Reef?
There is no number.

For example the Seabases site. There is the section Data Downloads. But some PDAs missed out in this sections.

Degasi Seabases
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Degasi_Seabases
It describes where you can find PDAs with Voice Logs for the Story, but the Environment Log on the foundation at one entry to the Jelly Shroom is missed out by Design. And it doesn't appear on the Jelly Shroom Biome page either. There are 7 PDAs in the Jelly Shroom Cave not 6.

So you have to use also another info source to figure this out.

Summary:

There is a lack of information and a pain for every user who want's a simple overview of abandoned PDAs to find. Clicking links lead to a run in circles without getting any more information. And there are still PDAs missing. There is no single way to find out how many PDAs in numbers are out there to pick up and where. Except using a commercial page like mapgenie.io? Klick every single one to categorize it and count it by yourself. This info is scattered all over the internet. That's it?

By the way I know where and how to find every PDA on this map. And I also have a mapgenie membership for other reasons. Doesn't mean I think it's the best way to get info. And I would love to have a simple overview.

It will be more easier for new players with questions. "I don't have signal for... I was at the Jelly Shroom Cave and I found one PDA. Did I miss something?" You can look it up quickly and give them a number or more clues. And it will help people doing 100% runs because they love this game. Last ones have their own notes, like me but not because I want to I have to.

[rustic void]

Now had read this several times. My favorite solution would be having a distinguished "Abandoned PDA" site with all this info in a table view but I wonder if it's possible to add a tab for "Abandoned PDAs" or "PDA" in this tab view after "Scannables" in every Biomes site. I'd would help a lot.

[heady gulch]

I’ll run over the contents of where the PDAs are supposed to be located, including the story PDAs of the sea bases, the lifepod PDAs, and the wreckage PDAs. Truthfully, looking through a lot of the pages, there seems to have been a direct avoidance on putting in the PDAs into the pages 1 for 1. Especially on the aurora page which adamantly paraphrases information.

As for why biomes don’t list these. My only assumption is locality. All non Degasi related PDAs are around wrecks or life pods. And sometimes mentions of the bases is avoided due to “spoiler reasons” on some pages. I’ll take some time later on to look into a way to nicely streamline this information without adding new page in. It looks like a lot of the handling for PDA’s specifically on the wiki has been disjointed.

I’ll see what I can do about fixing the links to the wrecks so it can directly link to that specific section on the wreck page.

[rustic void]

Thank you for your work. Maybe I'll get a fandom account next year to help with some things. " It looks like a lot of the handling for PDA’s specifically on the wiki has been disjointed." That's what exactly describes what the issue is.

[heady gulch]

👍

[heady gulch]

It’s a good chance to review everything and figure out a way to re-implement these things. Considering this wiki was created during early early access, a lot of stuff was built up overtime, and sometimes that includes improper information storage that didn’t hold well to the test of time.

The below zero component on this wiki suffers as well

[sharp oak]

Someone from the wiki, please fix whatever LoneSurvivr said, as they don't know hatched creatures are passive (the bug has already been patched)

[meager totem]

Is there an a lore reason as to why cryptosuchus are made of glass?

[silent gazelle]

I dont think they are made of glass

[ivory steppe]

Let's keep this chat for wiki talk, 'kay?

[dull veldt]

On the page for the radio, in the trivia section it mentions the line "CPU: This is an automated bounce back from the Aurora. Divers equipped with seaglide personal propulsion vehicles will be dispatched to your location. Static Estimated arrival time: 9...9...9...9...9 hours." and it being a possible reference to Portal 2. Except... that's not the line in the full release and isn't what's mentioned in the same page above it. If this is meant to be an old version of the line shouldn't the trivia section also mention that? Or be updated to be the same as the line mentioned above?

The actual line in the full release saying something about a "rescue operation" but specifically not mentioning seaglides or other "divers" at all

ALSO smolthetato with "mesmeereboopgoopscooprising" on the Mesmer page obviously needs to be fixed lol

[dull veldt]

And Miles W several days ago with vandalism of the bleach page and the Bulb Zone caves page "pathOwOgens" "wreck :3"
Getting an account tmrw so I can just start fixing these myself as well lol

[bitter depot]

You people need to start talking about forking again

I know youre worried about SEO and how youll beat Fandom in search results but you dont have to worry. Other wikis try to vandalize the Fandom wiki to make it worse than the fork but Fandom quickly stops them because they can tell its vandalism. So you gotta do something to hurt the wiki without Fandom knowing. its what im doing on the minecraft wiki right now and its working beautifly

What you should do is spread misinformation

find something that Femdom staff wont see is false and write it to the wiki. if you do it right itll be so full of lies that no one will trust it anymore and theyll just use the fork

[sharp oak]

We have no wikis other than Fandom.

[bitter depot]

you know the minecraft wiki decided to host itself on another platform minecraft.wiki

[bitter dock]

Also, I think there's enough misinformation on it already that ended up there accidentally.

[bitter depot]

well they have their wiki on minecraft.wiki and theres the unwanted one on Fandom

[sharp oak]

We don't have plans to move to another wiki. Subnautica Fandom is a great place for outdated information, most things we do is correct grammatical errors and such

[bitter depot]

so im ruining the one on Fandom so everyone uses the minecraft.wiki one because thats what everyone wants

you dont have to move to another wiki

you just host it on another website like minecraft did

you download a copy and put it on a site of your choice. minecraft wiki community chose to host itself on its own site but you can also ask someone to host your wiki like wiki.gg.

[sharp oak]

No

[bitter depot]

you can

[sharp oak]

We will not.

[bitter depot]

i know youre a mod but are you also in charge of the wiki

without a wiki keepr role

i know youve clearly tried to fork before

maybe you need to convince someone to let you do it. But im giving you more ideas on how to prove the fork will be successful

[sharp oak]

This topic has been brought up to question, but we still continue to update the Fandom. I'm not sure what are SLScool's plans, but I think the Fandom will stay for a while.

We will not spread misinformation, we will not vandalize it

[cinder kestrel]

What you should do is spread misinformation
For example, if we fork and no one left on the wiki plays on PlayStation 5, you could falsely claim to have discovered something on PlayStation 5, and then add whatever you want?

[bitter depot]

yeah

[cinder kestrel]

I'll save you the trouble of asking me what edition I play: I only play Subnautica and Below Zero on Steam on Windows. I won't know if you lie about any other platform.

[bitter depot]

wait

oh @gleaming tinsel stfu

[cinder kestrel]

Last time, you left as soon as I answered your questions. I think you should do that again.

I've seen this behavior from other people before, and I thought I recognized the username, so I did a little investigating. Turns out, BridgerOfIndents joined the Minecraft Discord server, asked me what platform I play on, got an answer, and left. Almost immediately, someone created the Fandom account Ravagation (who I now suspect was BridgerOfIndents) and, exactly four days later, started changing facts on the Minecraft Wiki that were specific to the platforms I do not play on. And here we are, three weeks later.

[rancid hare]

..it’s a bot. Also please refrain from using such language.

[cinder kestrel]

They tried to swear twice, and the swears were deleted both times. I'm guessing @gleaming tinsel is the moderation bot that deleted them.

[rancid hare]

Actually idk if it is but it sends the warnings so its the most likely

[cinder kestrel]

I'm not sure what are SLScool's plans, but I think the Fandom will stay for a while.
@sharp oak Any particular reason you referenced my plans?

[sharp oak]

Because they referenced your plans, I just said I didn't know anything about them

They edited the message and deleted the reference

[cinder kestrel]

Hmm. Any chance I could see exactly what they said?

[sharp oak]

Check DMs

[full geode]

Why is the mobile edit a bannable offense

[heady gulch]

I'm not sure which one you speak on. However, there has been a lot of vandalism on the wiki. And due to the frequency of it through the last... 7 years... I do not leave any wiggle room when it comes to individuals vandalizing a pre-existing page.

[full geode]

I'll show you what I mean

#📁wiki-changes message

In the tags, it says mobile edit

@heady gulch

[heady gulch]

Right, so that's stating the platform said edit or action ocurred on.

[full geode]

Ohh okay

[heady gulch]

Its unrelated to the material itself, just an identifier.

[full geode]

I thought it meant that if you edit the wiki on a mobile device, you can get banned

[heady gulch]

No need to worry about that haha, but thank you for asking the question

[jade solstice]

@sharp oak i have a few small questions

[sharp oak]

Go ahead, make the questions

[jade solstice]

1yeah whats your opinion on Fandom as a wiki place

[sharp oak]

It's fine, except for the ads covering everything

[jade solstice]

yeah-

have you ever thought about going away from fandom and beeing independant?

[sharp oak]

I'm not in charge of the wiki, but as far as I know, there are no plans of changing. We still keep updating the Fandom.

[jade solstice]

yeah but the ads rly annoy me

other then that i love working on the wiki

just wanted ro hear your opinion, this is actually the only wiki i still use fandom with

others are independ.

[sharp oak]

It is the only Fandom wiki I use too

[jade solstice]

tho i know a system that can help witz misinformation se use

when you edit, a team of people first checks it before allowing or removing the edit

its how we keep the fallout wiki clean for example

[mellow mango]

Ads are so bad on fandom you can't even use it on mobile half the time

[jade solstice]

and we only allow proven facts and not assumptions and theorys as those easily lead ro misinformatiom- as in the fandom fallout wiki

one problem geoup arw people with this mindser

well if we have only tjis bit info, we NEED to assume to have a full timeline,

without caring to make clear its nor official lore but only assumed

or the guys you make up stuff and link a source

that doenst even says it, or even the complete opposite

[sudden dove]

Let's keep the discussion topics about the SN/BZ wiki. If you want to discuss Fandom in general, please use #off-topic

[heady gulch]

Since users have brought up this many, many times through the wiki's history. Consider this an official answer on the hosting of subnautica Wiki. (||sorry for mentioning it Tuna, but someone has to really set it in stone lol||)

Will Subnautica Wiki migrate off Fandom?

No.

[heady gulch]

If you see web pages that need improvement, citations, or corrections; then, we encourage you to help us fill in the gaps. Refining and improving pages are always welcome. There are many trivia sections that could use specific citations to help fill in some gaps.

An unfortunate truth is many editors (such as myself) have been with the wiki for a long time. I've been with Subnautica wiki for nearly 8 years, and I no longer have the same time dedication I used to have 3-4 years ago. If we were to find a group of active editors willing to run quality checks on page edits- then that's an idea that I could discuss with the others. However unlike the fallout community, I think you'll find there's a rather large size difference when it comes to dedicated passionate fans- as well as how active the subnautica series currently is- with it's last major release in 2019 (below Zero)

[jade solstice]

id take the actualy caring people here over the misinformation in the old fallout wiki anyday, anyways im actually gonna go back and edit again like i once actually did here a little

[heady gulch]

thank you for the honesty.
The subnautica wiki is not without its flaws.

Considering the wiki was built around an early access game- it's evolved its pages and formatting as time has progressed. And there are many instances of pages and information that did not get such a good update treatment (like PDAs and dialogue for example).

And with the merging of Below zero Wiki and Subnautica Wiki, there's been a lot of gaps left unfilled and other rough spots that need refinement (especially because both wikis had their own separate sets of dedicated editors, and that merger shook that up a bit). If we had a good dedicated team of fresher eyes to look through the wiki, I agree a whole lot could be done to help fix some of the older issues on our site.

[jade solstice]

yeah, what i meant is the fallout one has even people in admin positions who dont care andedit with assumptions and edit in their own fanfiction as facts

its a mess

[heady gulch]

The larger a wiki is, the harder it is to manage and check.
Like i said, sometimes you need a pair of fresh eyes to help out with these kinds of things. As dedicating yourself to a rigorous process ( constantly going in game to do background checks over small to large tidbits of information) is a very time consuming process. I hope with the future releases in the subnautica series, we may get an influx of new editors who would be eager to help out. But our wiki community has been mostly dormant since the last major release was nearly 5 years ago.

[jade solstice]

yeah wich is why we have it that a specific person or 2 have to check every edit first and approve them before they go public

and we also dont do theorys or assumptions to have 100% only fact---where still cleaning up left overs from the split with fandom and the misinformation left over

the old had a yt edit a page because he was mad his argument was wrong

[cinder kestrel]

That process makes sense for a wiki whose misinformation will come from present edits. I'm not sure it makes so much sense for a wiki whose misinformation comes from past edits.

[dull veldt]

I'm sure many people are aware of this, but pages including "recipe" icons WITH text do not show properly on mobile, and have to be viewed on chrome/through the desktop version of the website to display properly.
Biggest example of this would be the bioreactor page, with white text showing energy values for items next to icons. Any time you see white text next to icons like this on the wiki (e.g. nuclear reactor page, ANY recipe containing more that 3 of the same ingredient), the text will NOT be visible on the mobile version of the site OR the fandom app, has to be loaded in a browser on "desktop version" of site to display.
obviously this is a problem with fandom and not the subnautica wiki itself. I also recognize that the number of pages this applies to is VAST and I personally can't think of an effective way to fix that.
Does anyone have any ideas for how we could at the very least, correct the bioreactor page to display readably everywhere? Maybe just a regular table, like the thermal plant page?
it would also be nice if we could fix things like recipes needing 5x titanium for example only showing as needing one titanium on mobile website/app due to the missing "x5" text

A regular table for the bioreactor energy values still might not look great on mobile but you could as least read the energy values. worried it would look MUCH worse on the desktop version of the site though, as the current design looks very clean IMO

[sharp oak]

Check Gargantuan Leviathan page, someone removed the image with age, class and "deceased"

[sharp oak]

Aurora page, someone made an edit that's not 100% accurate. It says that the little landmasses near the Aurora mean that it landed on an island. Could be true, but given the massive whole on the back, it's most likely unearthed terrain.

[dull veldt]

fair enough

[sharp oak]

Oh wait, it's you

Hi 👋

[dull veldt]

Howdy 👋

[sharp oak]

Ruby page, someone removed Ditto and repeated the phrase above

Thanks for the help

[dull veldt]

I want to add references and external links to trivia sections and such but have no clue where to start. And every time I pick a page it either has no trivia on it or I'm like "yeah I don't really know how to cite that"

[sterile veldt]

I thought the Aurora DID crash on an island, or at least some shallow area? The original game trailer I think has one of the Degassi survivors looking out his window as the Aurora was crashing straight by towards him?

Obviously no PDA entry from that guy…

[sharp oak]

Not sure.

The island seems far away enough.

[sterile veldt]

Hmmm, island in that pic may not exist anymore after the crash? It may be off the map.

It’s obviously behind the ship already.

Ok, had to watch the trailer again, was the son from Degassi, and was a shallow underwater base he had where Aurora crashed. I kept remembering him watching it out his window. 😱

[sharp oak]

Sunbeam were the ones to land on a small island, Mr Quinn mentioned crashing a ship in VR

[sterile veldt]

So, Aurora does appear to have crashed in shallow water. And likely carved a good trench until it came to rest and pushed up sediment before it.

[sterile veldt]

Sunbeam was shot down after Aurora?

[sharp oak]

Sorry, I meant "trying to"

[dull veldt]

Below Zero page, someone changed Antarctic to Arctic. Don't know whether or not to revert. The ending scene of subnautica makes it look like Sector Zero is at the South Pole, which would make it Antarctic. However there's absolutely no way to be sure that cutscene shows 4546B with North=up/South=down, so I'm at a loss. Advice? personally I prefer making it Antarctic until I see proof otherwise

[sharp oak]

I think "Arctic" just means it's a pole, and "Antarctic" is specifically South Pole.

[sterile veldt]

There is no information on if this region is even at one of the poles or not.

[dull veldt]

It is definitely near a pole, it is a Polar climate, it is a planet it rotates on an axis and revolves around a star at a perpendicular axis, the cold bits will be at/near the poles.

I will completely accept arctic though because there's no way of knowing the orientation of the planet, nor which side it's on

[sharp oak]

I think the Aurora Borealis means something

[remote leaf]

In an older version of the game, it was stated to be at the equator, afaik, that has since then been removed, because that is just a weird thing

[bitter dock]

Is it ever stated to be aurora borealis? I believe there's such a thing as aurora australis as well.

[sharp oak]

o

I mean, it looks like it

[sterile veldt]

Alien world. All bets are off. For all we know the poles are the hottest surface biome with volcanoes and molten lava everywhere.

Unless the devs weigh in with something definitive this is all just guesswork.

[remote leaf]

again, it was originally stated the equator was the arctic in older builds. but that line was removed

I honestly think it is safe going with the poles

[rustic void]

Arctic and Antarctic are specific terms when you're on planet earth. You can name it totally different on other planets. Generally I'd use poles.

[dull veldt]

Okay i know it's several days later lol but I just have to point out, we ALL generally assume the universe of 4546B has the same BASIC laws of gravity and time as ours. Poles, by definition, are always going to be colder. They are the constant furthest point from the star/orbiting body=cold bro

[lean parcel]

its not a different universe its the same universe

4546B will have the same basic laws of gravity and time

its accually unrealistic that there is snow at the equator

but if it is a relativly cold planet with only the crator being above 0 degrees

then the whole planet would be icy

not just the poles or equator

[sharp oak]

4546B doesn't function properly. Days are much longer than nights, like significantly longer. I think Subnautica Universe being separate from ours in some aspects is fine, otherwise the fabricator would explode every time you crafted something that had reactive materials, and lithium wouldn't be a thing underwater.

[fast flare]

true

[lean parcel]

if lithium made a oxide layer it wouldnt explode

and days can be longer than nights

[dull veldt]

Yeah the length of day compared to night actually roughly matches the ratio that the United States has here on Earth during Summer (about 58% of the day has sunlight in both cases)

[sharp oak]

15m - 5m is strange

[dull veldt]

Agreed, I was reading the page wrong. 75% sunlight definitely wouldn't make sense for the Crater being anywhere near the equator, unless the planet is on a CRAZY axis that gives the equator that much light during the Summer, and would completely freeze the ocean over during the winter, with only 5m of daylight and 15m of night

Officially done caring about this topic lmao

[simple carbon]

@sharp oak did you steal that from me?

[sharp oak]

@remote leaf hi, someone removed an entire page

Actually, they forgot about a section, now they've removed everything

They're deleting every page now

@cinder kestrel you there?

It is a bad day to not have a Fandom account </3

[heady gulch]

Aw crud

I’m on it

[sharp oak]

Thank you, I should've pinged you too

Hope it can all be reverted

[heady gulch]

I got it, yeah. Alright well I gotta finish my breakfast and get to class.

[sharp oak]

Yipeeee

Bon appetite

[remote leaf]

I love discord not giving me notifications

[sharp oak]

It's quite lovely indeed

[heady gulch]

Oh man. Oh man.
This is gonna bring in so many new editors

There will be much work to do in the coming year

[lean parcel]

U will have to make an entire wiki for the new game

Next year

Wait i accidentally pinged

Srry didnt mean to

Should have disabled the ping when replaying

[heady gulch]

No we won’t

[lean parcel]

?

Is it going to make itself or does ai do it and u fix incorrect info

I am confused

[sharp oak]

They were talking about the vandals deleting pages

[inland carbon]

apparently the wiki doesn't have any coords for cuddlefish eggs.

[lean parcel]

Yess

I was just abt to say the same thinf

Thing

[sterile veldt]

Coords sadly don’t help console players at all.

[bitter dock]

They're helpful if you want to teleport there.

[modern abyss]

hi guys im crypt

im new

just downloaded sn yesterday

i ned help

idk how to drink the bottled water from the lifepod chest

its a dum question but im very new to the game

[cinder kestrel]

You can check the wiki in this channel's description. You can also ask in #subnautica-chat .

[bitter dock]

Greetings!

[simple carbon]

BoywithUke real? In silly fish game server

dgihoskuhvs

[heady gulch]

I dont know who this boris fella is on wikichanges channel but, if you're on this server.. Wow, I'm surprised. Thank you for compiling sources and references to everything we currently know about the subnautica sequel. You saved me the effort of making a page and doing it myself.

[sterile veldt]

That page indicates we are on a new planet, but I’m not seeing anything that indicates this is definitively true. Just because we have new biomes and creatures doesn’t mean new planet.

[sharp oak]

Lead Designer said it's 100% in a new planet

[sterile veldt]

I missed that then.

[sharp oak]

There's a ton of stuff that was revealed by the devs in #subnautica-chat

[sterile veldt]

Ahh. I haven’t been following that channel. Gets too much noise.

[sharp oak]

Look for messages from anthony5539 and numstation

[sterile veldt]

Will do!

[sharp oak]

Have fun :)

[sterile veldt]

I’m all caught up from those two. Personal opinion, a new channel for NextGame would be nice for ad-hoc discussions like that. Especially since it’s a different game and not SN…

[fast flare]

^

[heady gulch]

BIppity and vee are cooking

[cursive gate]

subnautica 2 wiki page removed a bunch of images thats a bummer

still tho kinda cool it exists at all

[sterile veldt]

I think everything removed was just zoomed clips of the other two images. One had the sub, another was a fish, etc. very low res since they were zoomed.

[cursive gate]

yeah

[summer kindle]

I got a random email notification about a page edit and was interested to see what was going on

Found some things that needed fixing

The Below Zero fauna navbox had been broken for who knows how long

[stark frigate]

wiki is outdated

[raven bear]

Truth

[outer tulip]

Isn't the whole point of the wiki that anyone can edit it?

[stark frigate]

rarely no one does

[onyx river]

Yes but as mentioned earlier fandom = bad

[summer kindle]

They really do

[raven bear]

What exactly did Fandom do?

I hear a lot about them being trash

[onyx river]

And moving it to another site is too much work since anyone that used to do wiki work is now too busy or lost interest

[summer kindle]

It’s just a lot of annoying changes made to try to maximise profit

[outer tulip]

Why complain that it isn't up to date? Just edit it and bring it up to date

[raven bear]

Yeah, we'd need new people

[onyx river]

Easier said than done, there hasn’t been enough hype around subnautica recently

[sharp oak]

I am proud of this community, you actually did the jump 😭 💖

[raven bear]

Part of it is not wanting to work with Fandom anymore

[raven bear]

I didn't wanna get yelled at 😭

[stark frigate]

same dawg

[raven bear]

As with every big company ig 😕

[outer tulip]

Well that's fair, porting over to a new platform is beyond the casual player's skill set

[sharp oak]

On mobile, the ads cover more than 50% of the screen, and one of the ads is a YouTube video that eats through mobile data

[onyx river]

Wiki editing in general can already be daunting for someone who doesn’t know markup

[stark frigate]

everyone has Lost interest

[remote leaf]

me watching as fandom adds AI Generated quick facts to wikis to "improve the experience"

[sharp oak]

It's very slow, and it at some point added AI notes

[summer kindle]

I saw people posting about that lol

I remember how annoyed we were when they started adding these big videos at the top of popular pages

[stark frigate]

it also gave false infomation

[summer kindle]

Where some random person would give a break down on the topic of the page

[remote leaf]

we at SL just got a wiki set up by our company. dedicated team for the wiki that Im part of.

the fandom wiki still exist

[summer kindle]

And the videos were wrong almost all the time

[remote leaf]

despite straight up having a wiki ran by the studio

fandom refuses to delete the fandom sl wiki

god forbid they loose some pennies

[summer kindle]

Yeah they won’t do that ever

[onyx river]

Iirc they do some shifty stuff to try and keep their site as the first link on a Google search

[remote leaf]

how dare you insult the glorious Sea Dragon video of it clipping into the terrain of the Safe Shallows

[summer kindle]

It’s not shifty it’s just called paying

[remote leaf]

such a flawless video

true wiki quality

[stark frigate]

I don't even trust the wiki any more since it's all outdated

[remote leaf]

hm

write a list of things that are outdated that you can find

[stark frigate]

like fishes die in the Unc when the maxium limt is reach

[stark frigate]

bet

[remote leaf]

it helps a lot in cracking down on them

I havent done SN wiki in awhile since I put focus on SL Wiki

[raven bear]

That would make moving the wiki a lot easier

[remote leaf]

that as well

[sharp oak]

I'll send you a 57 GB txt file

[remote leaf]

would love to leave fandom, we just need to find a place

true freedom

[sharp oak]

freendom wiki

[onyx river]

I’d honestly do more on the wiki if I knew what to fix and didn’t have to go searching for incorrect things

[stark frigate]

i doubt you can send that much of a big file

[summer kindle]

Idk tbh maybe leaving fandom just isn’t a good idea considering this wiki has been there for like. A decade.

[remote leaf]

I also dislike how we have the pages set up as they are now. a split between Subnautica and Below Zero just hurts the wiki imo

[summer kindle]

But for Subnautica 2

[remote leaf]

Subnautica 2 would 100% be the best time for the leave, a good way to get the community ready to move

[summer kindle]

Idk how else you’re meant to do it

[remote leaf]

I would prefer if pages were merge, or at least for things that have no differences

[onyx river]

Could split it under separate headers in the same page

[remote leaf]

airbladder functions exactly the same between the two games now

[outer tulip]

It seems like wiki.gg has a system in place to fork fandom wikis and make a 1:1 copy https://support.wiki.gg/wiki/Help:Migration#Moving_Platforms-0

[sharp oak]

Most big pages have wrong stuff, it's not as difficult to find wrong info. It's difficult to find all wrong info, though

[summer kindle]

A non fandom wiki being created for Subnautica 2 makes sense but I think transferring everything from a decade old wiki that will still stay in place as the top result is kinda a lot of work for nothing

[remote leaf]

transfering is always hard

it took us years to finally appear at the top of google for the SL Wiki

really depends on how much it can be used to improve the current wiki

cleaning up all outdated information, as well as making format more consisent

a lot of format changes were made when BZ wiki was a new wiki, namely to templates, and the SN wiki never got those

[onyx river]

Yes but I haven’t been playing subnautica recently so I don’t remember what’s actually correct or not