subnautica-2-chat

[sleek cedar]

Not that long tho right?

[fiery root]

Question yall cus I dont feel like digging, ik the game comes out in may but is there a more specific timeframe?

[river kernel]

We’re all hoping for tomorrow

[wintry dove]

yeah you can also stack it with another that makes them big

[civic birch]

there is no conformation for anything other than 2026

[brittle cloak]

you don't know that. it's possible that early access is in may but not guaranteed

[dense comet]

We don't know if the game is coming out in May either

[swift kraken]

You’re fine probably don’t worry

[fiery root]

Oh I thought that was confirmed

[gaunt pasture]

the eyes lost their use as visual sensors but since eyes are fluid filled it became repurposed as a resonating chamber that picks up fluctuations in the water

[dense comet]

Unfortunately not

[sleek cedar]

Ya i cant tank my 3rd 24 hour mute

[gaunt pasture]

And that’s why they’re large

[fossil maple]

we all are praying

[fiery root]

Oh. So is that just a rumor? Like where did that start

[river kernel]

I just need it to come out this summer before I start nursing school 😭😭😭

[swift kraken]

Dawg how do you even get muted that much 😭 Lock in

[civic birch]

an uncomfirmd leak

[lofty junco]

Idk if my heart can take another increased reaper spawn play through while being more aggressive

[dense comet]

IGN report came out on that or something. Didn't look to far into it tbh. All I know is it is unconfirmed

[sleek cedar]

I dont think mr general likes my questions very much

[civic birch]

scariest mod was one that had reapers hunt you

[fiery root]

Dang

[wintry dove]

you learn how to run away at great speed very very fast

[gaunt pasture]

But yeah I think it’s worth looking into.
It’s an Alex Ries design, and he does tend to put a lot of thought into designing creatures with identifiable shared traits

[brittle cloak]

there should be some fauna that hunts you across the entire map in subnautica 2 and it can find you from a large distance

[sleek cedar]

Yes like a leviathan that would be sick

[waxen mountain]

it would be nice a pack chase

[gaunt pasture]

and in BZ Alex often specified what different parts of the anatomy were in his art

[naive timber]

Wonder if our reprinting pods will be in the drop Pod or just chairs like the first game

[lofty junco]

who is doing concept art for subnautica 2 is it still alex ries?

[hollow aurora]

The tomorrow speculation is because Obraxis said wait until the end of the episode and because the devs stated many things coming out this month

[quiet pewter]

I’d be cool if it was like a weeping angel

[brittle cloak]

i don't think that'd make sense, especially if there are shallower zones. something like a boneshark would be more appropriate imo. could have it hunt in packs too

[waxen mountain]

weeping angel leviathan

[sleek cedar]

Maybe not a leviathan in the safe shallows but if its chasing u it should be allowed to leave its biome and follow u tho

[echo plinth]

are the confirmed biomes the Coral Gardens, Jelly Plateaus, and the Graveyard?

[sleek cedar]

Whats the graveyard

[gaunt pasture]

Graveyard

[naive timber]

Looks like a cave biome

[quiet pewter]

Looks really good

[river kernel]

Trauma

[sleek cedar]

Ohhh i see. Will EA look like that or in a couple years

[brittle cloak]

what the mesmer doing

[gaunt pasture]

not a Mesmer

[lofty junco]

I would honestly be happy if there was less leviathans but smarter ai for them. We will still probably get our 3 aggressive and 3 passive but definitely happy there is being so much love put into them

[civic birch]

reminds me of the inactive lava zone

[echo plinth]

I’m pretty sure it’s gonna be one of the biomes in ea1

[gaunt pasture]

Obraxis said this biome has changed quite bit since then

[echo plinth]

I’m gonna see what the “mesmer” could be

[sleek cedar]

Yes yes yes. But will the graphics look as good as that

[civic birch]

🤐

[echo plinth]

they should

[sleek cedar]

Hopefully in good way

[gaunt pasture]

Non electric Geordie

[dull finch]

Dimitri

[waxen mountain]

leviathan should be faster because in subnautica i feel there slow when they chased me with my seamoth

[echo plinth]

like the one seen in one of the dev vlogs?

[waxen mountain]

this biome locks so nice

[lofty junco]

collector looks like it moves

[dull finch]

Yeah that that developer q&A is coming soon

[quiet pewter]

Definitely looks like a mesmur

[echo plinth]

interesting!

[river kernel]

I like to ram into them with my sea moth

[dull finch]

Except for the part where it looks nothing like a mesmer yeah sure

The body is primarily blue the back has a glowing Ray on it the wings are a bluish white and they're already extended

That's not a mesma it's just a small fish which extends out to an X shape

[brittle cloak]

you just described a mesmer

[quiet pewter]

Has somewhat the same colour scheme

[lofty junco]

purple body and cyan tips? it looks like a mesmer but we know its not

[echo plinth]

It’s a non-electric geordie! As said by gemmabee a minute ago

[waxen mountain]

i hope they make small cave entrance deep enough for lava cave but so narrow that you can only fit yourself

[dull finch]

That is the most clearly not a mesmer fish ever

[echo plinth]

this

[gaunt pasture]

Well I’ve definitely seen fish that are more clearly not a Mesmer

[sleek cedar]

How deep will the ocean be in sn2? And is the void an actual zone with content now?

[brittle cloak]

at least 2

[dull finch]

I think the Reaper is just a mesmer but it ate del taco

[quiet pewter]

Like a reaper

[lofty junco]

5 million

[fervent aurora]

Generic Geordie

[dull finch]

Friendly Geordie

[gaunt pasture]

I like Generic Geordie

[dull finch]

You just hate me

[gaunt pasture]

and

[dull finch]

It's admirable

[warm lion]

Hi chat

[dull finch]

I respect you hedgehog woman

[brittle cloak]

admiral*

[sleek cedar]

Will subnautcia 2 get political?

[keen sundial]

how did this game get delayed a year and theres still no release date

[lofty junco]

Hopefully depth matters and we see some absolute behemoths super deep similar to how some creatures get bigger the further down you go in real oceans

[dull finch]

Wha
Yeah

All games are political

[echo plinth]

Teuthis courser - Coursing Squid

Panopliateuthis velos - Armoured Sail Squid

Monopter astrapakantha - Lightning Spine

Ostrakonskelos glossaklept - Tongue Thief Crab

Psalidioprosopon kryptokonton - Hidden Scissorface ( probably the needler shark ) Sitaroid gemini - Twin Sitaroid

GET TO WORK PPL! we got 5 scientific names with no common name! Get to speculation!

[dull finch]

Every game is political, I'm serious

[gaunt pasture]

well odds are most of them are names of things we haven’t seen at all.

[dull finch]

I wanna see the anemone crab

[sleek cedar]

Hows ur day been going mod

[dull finch]

I wanna hug him so bad

[sleek cedar]

Will subnautcia 2 include a reference to me in the game?

[pliant aurora]

questions closed?? interesting developement....

[swift kraken]

He wants to take your tongue

[lofty junco]

it lowkey could

[fervent aurora]

I think sitaroid Gemini was the twin lovebird fish thing

[silent oak]

or just that they have enough

[dull finch]

Maybe I'll let him

[swift kraken]

You’re sick 🤢

[gaunt pasture]

Wrong guy

Not all Ostrakonskelos are the same

[lofty junco]

what questions did you guys ask for the faq

[sleek cedar]

Ya like in the credits or on a piece of paper

[dull finch]

Yeah I've been puking

[fervent aurora]

Something about the vehicle chassis I don’t remember

[silent oak]

that makes two of us

[swift kraken]

I reject this Wet nonsense from the Deep state

[sleek cedar]

Release date

[dull finch]

Boring

[lofty junco]

is that to do with the tadpole?

[silent oak]

soooo original and creative

[pliant aurora]

yeah but that's the boring and safe option, I'm on hopium rn, and, I mean "closed...to give ourselves time..."

[sleek cedar]

Thank you

[neat wing]

If there would be a land leviathans similar to the ice worm but more on the snow stalker side

[dull finch]

Fish react him

[dull finch]

They don't have any land

[swift kraken]

Time to delete all the questions of people asking the release date so they can get to the good stuff

[lofty junco]

praying they dont waste a leviathan slot on some stupid land section

[silent oak]

oh please

[slate narwhal]

I’m trademarking Flares™ every Flare™ Is an @slate narwhal Reference

[silent oak]

flare™ reference

[dull finch]

How much are royalties/licensing

[sleek cedar]

But isn’t that the most important of all?

[slate narwhal]

Yes

[swift kraken]

It’s a good thing they’re called distraction flares and not Flares™

[dull finch]

Here's....
47 thousand dollars 💰

[lofty junco]

i hope they dont flag every question that has release in it because i was asking about what the update release schedule was going to look like

[slate narwhal]

Distraction Flares™ are included

[swift kraken]

Maybe if you are weak in spirit it is

[swift kraken]

Dang it!

[sleek cedar]

Hey man that not very nice

[slate narwhal]

Flair™ is also included for some reason

[sleek cedar]

Dont make me call general on you

[weary barn]

if they were to do a land leviathan i could see a sand worm leviathan but that was when i thought we were on desert zezura and not some random moon with water

[neat wing]

2026

[swift kraken]

Get yo spirit up not yo funny up

[slate narwhal]

Not who you would call and also don’t do that

[shrewd crag]

[sleek cedar]

He holds all the power

[orchid sonnet]

do you guys think we will get tthe release date before or after the Q&A

[fervent aurora]

Yeah

[lofty junco]

if they are gonna do a non-water leviathan i would want some flying creature so the surface isnt safe

[silent oak]

why would you want the surface to be unsafe

[neat wing]

I’m hoping tomorrow after the diving into the legacy video

[sleek cedar]

Tmw hopefully

[fervent aurora]

During

Imagine they debunk all the “release date when” questions by dropping a legit date

[lofty junco]

Challenge because subnautica is not challenging

[quiet pewter]

Then we would need guns like rail guns

[silent oak]

it was to a random 8 year old

[sleek cedar]

Ya bru ppl gotta stop asking for release dates and let them work

[lofty junco]

No guns

[silent oak]

holy hypocritical

[weary barn]

a flying mango nibbler leviathan would actually be cool

[lofty junco]

wym

[gaunt pasture]

Damn I couldn’t think of a question before they got closed

[sleek cedar]

Im a realist

[slate narwhal]

We don’t use Railguns for AA

[silent oak]

8 year old me thought sn was difficult

[weary barn]

in the cgi trailer they had some wierd things floating above the water right

[sleek cedar]

Yes fish i think

[silent oak]

or was it 9, i can't even remember

[gaunt pasture]

Don’t call him weird

[brittle cloak]

kinda hope something is done to make subnautica 2 more challenging. subnautica loses some of the scariness when you realize hostile fauna will just attack once to give you a chance at escaping

[dull finch]

We're getting brand new creature ai so

[lofty junco]

Im not saying the flying leviathan needs to be in starting areas im just saying if they do a non-water leviathan i want it to be a flying one

[silent oak]

i'd rather it be a land one

[sleek cedar]

Excuse u wtf do u mean flying?

[weary barn]

swear they made concept art for a flying leviathan in below zero but scrapped it

[silent oak]

i enjoyed the land in sn

[brittle cloak]

we've already seen the blimp

[silent oak]

kitewing or something

[gaunt pasture]

It was not that big

[prisma stone]

same

[silent oak]

but thats not a leviathan nor flying

[lofty junco]

Something like that but bigger

[slate narwhal]

Traversal not on ground

[sleek cedar]

Theres one that can fly?

[fervent aurora]

Them attacking multiple times gets annoying

And ends up with a shadow leviathan moving in with the chelicerate

[brittle cloak]

it looked like it was flying

[slate narwhal]

None confirmed as far as I know

[weary barn]

what if it can fly and also go in the water

[silent oak]

it's more like striding i'd think

[orchid sonnet]

i still think having a flying leviathans that swoops down from the air and catches prey in the surface of the water could be really cool. like a really really big much scarier seagull pretty much

[sleek cedar]

It flying wouldn’t be that scary tbh

[slate narwhal]

It’s more buoyancy

[prisma stone]

its like a foil type fin

[radiant flicker]

Yesssssssssssssss

[weary barn]

wait there was a Q&A did i miss this

[wintry dove]

same

[slate narwhal]

The atmosphere is mostly Xenon which is pretty dense iirc

[silent oak]

yes

[lofty junco]

Yeah having them fly in some areas that go down deeper to 200 meters would help push players to build vehicles so they can stay lower and avoid the attack

[gaunt pasture]

the Kitewing was not a leviathan

[silent oak]

the submitting questions part just ended

[silent oak]

looks like one tbh

[wintry dove]

where do i see all this beautiful concept art

[radiant flicker]

“Announce the date and time for qna soon” so basically does rhat mean we gon get a release date before qna?

[prisma stone]

wtf is this

[weary barn]

kitewing lost like the ice dragon

[dull finch]

Hi jake

[dull finch]

We're naming every cresture

[lofty junco]

ice dragon is such wasted potential actually the coolest concept art subnautica has

[sleek cedar]

Is that sn2 or bz

[silent oak]

oh nvm

[ocean night]

???

[dull finch]

The ice dragon is so mediocre

[silent oak]

scrapped bz concept

[gaunt pasture]

Telephone…

[dull finch]

Isn't that racist?

[slate narwhal]

Isnt Xenon as a gas dense?

[wintry dove]

i’m dense

[modest nova]

Same

[slate narwhal]

Also mostly probably wasn’t the right word, Theres just a lot of xenon

[dull finch]

Xenon particles are in the air I BELIEVE

[lofty junco]

Land sections in subnautica 2 have to be limited so they dont overstay their welcome

[sleek cedar]

Is ryley making a return?

[dull finch]

could be wrong

[pliant aurora]

it is, but we only know the atmosphere has xenon, not that it is MOSTLY xenon

[silent oak]

no

[orchid sonnet]

nope

[gaunt pasture]

I never really considered this.

[silent oak]

not in the playable sense

[weary barn]

oh man a question i would have asked was if there was a zone or part of the map where the player would have to breifly traverse into the void to get to the other side whilst having to avoid whatever roams that small void area

[slate narwhal]

Yeah mostly wasn’t the right word

[dull finch]

Pretty sure people just say Telephone now to avoid the connotation

[wintry dove]

100% agree like the first game just maybe one or so more islands or maybe 2 but ones decent sized

[sleek cedar]

Will sn2 be more or less scary then first?

[orchid sonnet]

i would be completly fine having a sbunautica game with no land sectionsat all lol

[pliant aurora]

"significant amount of xenon" is what seth said
he has also not given us the atmospheric composition of [MoonRedacted] (please?)

[quiet pewter]

Hopefully scarier

[orchid sonnet]

thts me personally tho

[weary barn]

we can tell them to make it more spooky

[sleek cedar]

Oh u right cuz its EA

[lofty junco]

Ive been saying this but people dont seem to agree. I think the land areas in subnautica are only good if its a major plot point

[sleek cedar]

Wait so am i im charge of the game then in EA?

[wintry dove]

i could go either way i liked how in the first one you didn’t have to be on land for a decent amount of time like bz

[weary barn]

tbf when we get early access 1 how long are we gonna be waiting for early access 2...

[wise junco]

Im just going to reiterate that the stuff you see in devlogs is old and often WIP, so pouring over it for real gameplay details is at your own peril

case in point: the "partial resources" on basebuilding. Abandoned long ago, despite showing footage

[ocean night]

Why are telephones racist

[weary barn]

ANTHONY omg hi please could you tell me something about the shiver leviathan

[sleek cedar]

Hey Anthony how are u doing?

[dull finch]

No I believe Chinese whispers as a name is outdated and racist

[swift kraken]

The Collector doesn’t live in a completely flat and brightly lit biome???

[lofty junco]

thank god i would hate decimal resources

[ocean night]

Oh

[dull finch]

Oh Hey Anthony I had a question about game design could I pick your brain about it while you're here?

aaaand he's gone I think

[sleek cedar]

Think its classified i tried wit general

[dull finch]

What

[wintry dove]

he sent one message and flew away

[sleek cedar]

Like they wont tell u nth for the most part

[dull finch]

Why wouldn't he tell me about game design

[weary barn]

damn man i just want some shiver lev gossip

[dull finch]

I'm not asking about the second game I'm asking about game design in general

[lofty junco]

just wait like the rest of us

[sleek cedar]

Oh mb then

[dull finch]

What do you mean wait like the rest of you I'm trying to ask him about subnautica one stuff

[wintry dove]

drop everything you know about it i’m in the dark with this lev

[swift kraken]

Why would you not ask about Below Zero

[dull finch]

You're scaring me I don't know what that is

[lofty junco]

Keep it that way i wanna discover it for myself

[swift kraken]

I don’t think Anthony worked on SN1

[wintry dove]

bet

[dull finch]

Yeah no but I was talking to Sam about something and then he said you should probably ask Anthony or artie

[sleek cedar]

What pc specs yall got

[weary barn]

The shiver leviathan will act as the void leviathan for sub 2 and for players going out of bound it has a big mumma and 3 babies that all follow you thats all i know so i neeeeeedddd more

[wise junco]

in the future, i would just ask not wait my permission., and if i see it, ok

so what

[wintry dove]

how’s it feel working on a super cool game

[sleek cedar]

Anthony keep up the good work

[dull finch]

Oh I was going to ask regarding the lava zone
Do you feel like it kind of breaks the gameplay loop since it's kind of near the very end and there's not much to do except for the lava castle and kyanite

[round jungle]

I'm really excited, personally, knowing what might happen in this game hopefully

and just, getting to explore during early access again

[wise junco]

what do you think is the gameplay loop it's breaking?

[sleek cedar]

Are u insider?

[dull finch]

Also regarding how high the roof is it kind of doesn't feel like you're in water at that point as well

And it doesn't help with the sparse creature density

[round jungle]

I phrased that weirdly I'm just excited I know nothing lol

just, the same everyone else excited does!

[dull finch]

I think every new zone and the Deeper you go you should be exploring a lot more but I feel with the lavas are in there's one place you need to go and then you can just dash to the finish

[sleek cedar]

Lava zone was cool i think

[wise junco]

The loop of subnautica is go out and explore, return when you hit a roadblock, hopefully craft past the roadblock. I think by the time you reach the lavazone you've done most of the work. It's a big payoff for the story, culminating in one last crafting push

[round jungle]

I'm just saying I was excited knowing what I've seen from the trailers, teasers, etc.

[sleek cedar]

But maybe a darker place would have fit better

[dull finch]

Like for example the lost river is an intricate system of canals and tubes I guess, and it has a lot of landmarks it's got a bunch of skulls it's got brine pools it's got these plant life specimens all around the place, on top of that it also has a bunch of research sites

It's got a lot of points of interest

However when you get to the lava zone there's just one spot and everything else just feels kind of boring I guess

[weary barn]

how long does it take to finalise a leviathan for sub2?

[dull finch]

And again I feel like the ceiling is way too high for what it is, you can barely say it so it doesn't even feel like you're in water at that point I guess

[round jungle]

I know people are always excited about leviathans more than anything but I'm very excited about new options for building

[wise junco]

the ceiling is high to accomodate the leviathan

which still bumbles around a bit

[pastel moth]

you don't know this when you go in for the first time, you're still exploring the whole area. You can technically just dash through the whole game without ever exploring if that's your goal

[sleek cedar]

No lie i barley base built in first game

[swift kraken]

I like the high ceiling tbh

[dull finch]

Right that's fair, but also the entire place again is kind of empty it's not that hard to avoid it completely

[gaunt pasture]

The main thing then is just the fact that it’s kinda empty

[round jungle]

When I play with other players I think I'll feel encouraged to actually make a nice looking base

[lofty junco]

i mean its a inactive volcano theres not much that can live there

[dull finch]

I really do like the lava zone but I do feel like since there's a huge lack of vegetation of any sort it kind of feels weird as well

I do think the active lovers are in does kind of make up for this with a lot more glowing lava being a bit more of an eye-catcher

[dull finch]

Well no that's not really true a lot of Life formed from heat in the bottom of the ocean, KINDA

[quiet pewter]

In all my play throughs the sea dragon just clips through the wall and jumpscares me by destroying my cyclops

[sleek cedar]

What vegetation would be down there?

[round jungle]

Aren't there IRL sharks and other animals that live right near volcanos?

[lofty junco]

I get that but your in a literal volcano everything is just gonna get burned

[dull finch]

Another thing that kind of breaks it for me is the existence of the magmarang

Because the boomerang is a coral feeding species and I'm just confusing what the magma rang would feed off of, it has to be a relative of some sort but again there's not much for them to eat except for like leviathan bones I guess

[dull finch]

Very evidently not

[gaunt pasture]

Don’t examine subnautica 1 ecosystems too closely lol

[lofty junco]

Very evidently yes because theres no flora down there

[pliant aurora]

I want open caves like the lava zone, but I agree that in this specific scenario, it kinda ruins the point of the dragon.
then again, it's not much better in bz. the cave is so linear and narrow you either see the leviathan or know it's behind you, which you can check in 2 seconds

[orchid sonnet]

yeah. once you have seen one part of the lava zone, you have seen it all

[dull finch]

Definitely no because very clearly creatures can survive down there

[round jungle]

One thing I've always liked about Subnautica is that each environment has sort of an ecosystem going on. Below Zero did something really weird with shadow leviathans where they have basically nothing to prey on down there, so the only potential prey is you, and it makes it confusing how they even survive

[dull finch]

I think what I'm trying to say is is that for a final zone it feels like you're there for five minutes and then you move on

Instead of kind of it being a final frontier in a weird way

You don't really get to soak it in unless you are making a dedicated base or something

[sleek cedar]

No unless the game was a dream and Riley died when that plate hit his head

[lofty junco]

Yes im talking about flora/plants the entire place is filled with magma not soil. Theres no place to grow and its gonna get burned

[wise junco]

I never once consider the food cycles of a creature i see in the ocean. I guess i just dont think about it that same way

The magmarang eats somethign, i dont care what it is

i care more about where im going and what could eat me

[dull finch]

What if the magmarang ate you

[round jungle]

the notoriously vicious predator, the magmarang

[dull finch]

Yeah no I think my issue is the lost river felt a lot better, because they just think it had a lot more to look at as well in a way

[lofty junco]

See i think the ecosystems and biology of subnautica is what makes it such a great game. The entry logs should tell me almost everything about the creature and how it survives and why i should believe it survives

[orchid sonnet]

i stand by the fact that the crystal caves is te worst area across both games. the area its pretty and thats the onlu ocmpliment i could give it. But ive always wondered. if there is someone here who like the crystal caves, can you tell me why?

[quiet pewter]

The lost river is such a beautiful biome

[wise junco]

i do think the ecosystem data is fantastic, yes

[dull finch]

The lava castle and the weird corridor area leading to the active lava zone are the only two things I can really think of unfortunately

They both make for amazing visuals but in the end the zone feels kind of lacking

[wise junco]

but in the moment, when im in the game, it's not really somethign that breaks any immersion for me

[round jungle]

It looks pretty and the OST is really good

[wise junco]

if there's extra detail it's great,

[dull finch]

I'm not saying I hate it I do think they're great places but when you get to play throughs I always do kind of not look forward to it I guess

But it's interesting seeing your stance on it as a game designer

[orchid sonnet]

okay you are right the OST does slap. but i feel like it doesnt save it

[round jungle]

But the crystal caves in practice is just shadow leviathan attack simulator, you're in a super tiny, cramped cave where you have to pass by a ton of shadow leviathan who don't do enough damage to break your sub, but do enough damage to annoy you

[wise junco]

yeah, well i do systems design so i probably over index on those things vs. lore and stuff

[dull finch]

I don't necessarily think it takes away from anything else either

I just think another issue could lie with just the color of it being browns and blacks maybe

Compare to the crystal caverns it kind of has a weird similarity but at the same time it doesn't

[main plover]

I think the experience you're describing here is almost certainly by design--and a good game design exercise might be coming up with reasons why it's designed that way, what benefits you get

[round jungle]

I love when animals, like the hostile leviathans for example, actually act like animals and feel like they exist in the world. I'm able to enjoy but not as big a fan of things like Jaws where the supposed animal is just a murder monster that hunts people specifically even when it's so large that hunting a person would be impractical

[slate narwhal]

Uhhhhhh, 1905 Flare mention

[dull finch]

Right maybe I'm just more used to like the end from Minecraft I guess

A place that you can go as a final frontier do a thing but then be able to still have that exploration you felt through the rest of the game I guess

[lofty junco]

you are correct but a reskin of a regular fish just kinda feels lazy. Unless there is some sort of lore reason the magmarang evolved that way like the oculus being stuck in caves and evolving to live in caves. the magmarang is just out of place

[round jungle]

Like, I love it when say, a reaper leviathan might go after another creature and hunt it, rather than just barrelling towards me like I'm somehow a threat despite being the same size as a stalker

[wise junco]

do you think that it's lazy that there are dozens of bass species on earth?

[dull finch]

It's really colourful it's occupied by good plant life and by really good crystal formations as well, but at the same time I do feel it's kind of let down by its terrain a little bit, it's a beautiful love hate relationship because I love how tricky it is but at the same time I don't like how flat it also is

[wise junco]

that effectively look like reskins of one another?

[lofty junco]

Thats real life not a game though

[dull finch]

Without the bass we wouldn't have gotten the bass pro pyramid

[tranquil kernel]

praise be to the bass pro shops pyramid

[dull finch]

I used to be on the side of hating on the Oculus and other recolors but more for it now

[wise junco]

i see. I can never align with the people here of "it's not real" vs. "it shouldn't be real"

Reskins are a way to get more lowinvestment creatures in teh game

for visual variety

[dull finch]

I do think it's interesting and important to draw those similarities however

I think it's natural in nature to have species with similar properties and especially when they branch off from a common ancestor

[wise junco]

but i woudln't call them lazy, because for the artists they aren't free

[gaunt pasture]

I don’t have a problem with creature reskins being used to flesh out the world. I would like more of them if anything

[round jungle]

I don't think the game should conform to what's realistic, but I do enjoy it when the game feels like its world is somewhat believable. Having recolors is both useful for developers and natural

[dull finch]

Like someone told me the Oculus is a peeper offshoot and that it was possible because jelly shroom caves are near the safe shallows, they're a lot closer than I would have thought

[lofty junco]

i suppose but a creature that lives in coral reefs also being found in an inactive volcano just doesnt make sense

[orchid sonnet]

i dont hate reskins. i think they can be cool.

[lofty junco]

ghost ray and magma ray are cool because jelly rays live right next to inactive volcano so it makes sense some would diverge from the jelly rays spcies

[gaunt pasture]

the Oculus isn’t a reskin exactly they are different

[wise junco]

so now we're back to not making sense

[dull finch]

I think if you're reskin something it has to be worth it you know

If you just slap a color of pink on something it gets boring

What you can do is make it a brand new texture overall or you can put a lot more thorn design into what colors are used and where they go hell you could even experiment with gradients

[dull finch]

Jelly ray's not the same I believe

You're thinking of ghost rays

[lofty junco]

you right

[dull finch]

I mean I prefer jelly rays

[orchid sonnet]

it grounds you in a sense familarity and it shows consistency in the world. it can show you are still on the same world but thse areas are differnet and have their own ecosystems and the creatures in it have evolved to it

[wise junco]

i mean there are bass in tropical reefs

and then bass in some of the coldest waters

[dull finch]

do you think the ancient Egyptians built the bass pro pyramid

[round jungle]

Is it weird that I think early access is scarier because during early access all the leviathans have the power to phase through reality and clip into walls to get me?

[cursive kayak]

U mean, a cool bass

[round jungle]

I spent half my time in the early access of OG subnautica terrified that a reaper would magically fly through the Aurora and eat me despite being way above water and inside a fully modeled ship

[gaunt pasture]

actually the entire SN1 map is an inactive volcano so every SN1 creature is found in an inactive volcano

[lofty junco]

Honestly the problem i have is that it dosnt explain why they had to evolve to live in extreme temperatures its more just they did. Compared to the oculus and peeper

[dull finch]

I'm pretty sure something that the devs are focusing on more is less

You know how in subnautica sometimes is all of items will just rotate on a horizontal axis to like move around

I'm pretty sure theyre focusing on making them not do that

[wise junco]

species that get separated by major world events often just evolve to live in separate space slike that

one cave collapse, one lava flow

[gaunt pasture]

This isn’t really something that requires an explanation? Imo

[dull finch]

Yeah like think about pangea if you want a more land-based example

[gaunt pasture]

There’s an area to live in so they evolve to live in it

[wise junco]

there's one area of the world where two ant species evolved right next to eachother because one evolved to live on the lava rocks

the other did not

even though they had the same ancestry

now they are reskins of one another. Lazy God!

[dull finch]

Humans are technically like this

Will evolved into our own cultures and ethnicities once pangea split apart

[round jungle]

Subnautica also operates on rule of cool sometimes to be honest. Like, Marguerite is absolutely only alive because it's cool

[ocean night]

There’s an entire species confined to one puddle in a cave somewhere

[dull finch]

And then somehow thousands of years later we got hummus

I don't know how but we did

[gaunt pasture]

Your dates are uh, a little off here

[dull finch]

Yeah that's my buddy Steve he's a bit of a douche

[gaunt pasture]

And people campaigned to kill it!

[dull finch]

The invented hummus before they invented fire that's all I'm saying

Please don't kill Steve

[lofty junco]

The thing is though the boomerang lives nowhere the inactive lava zone

[dull finch]

May I introduced to you the hellhole

How do you reckon a reaper leviathan got all the way down to the lava zone

[tranquil kernel]

wasnt it because of property development or somesuch thing?

[dull finch]

There's a theory that the aurora crushed on top of a hole which LED all the way from the safe shallows down to the lavazan

[gaunt pasture]

It happens

[dull finch]

I do believe that maybe magmarines could have evolve to feed off of leviathan bones

[gaunt pasture]

Yeah and groundwater usage draining their puddle

[round jungle]

My big hope is that leviathans are allowed to do significant damage again. I remember playing the original and below zero, and in below zero I swear they went from something like the reaper doing 60-80% of your seamoth's HP, to the shadow leviathans doing like 20-30% of seatruck health

[lofty junco]

I suppose i just would have liked more of a lore explanation

[dull finch]

That is correct

[gaunt pasture]

Some things don’t really need a lore explanation

The creature’s mere presence doesn’t really require an explanation imo.

[dull finch]

I'll tell you what does
Which metal salvage scraps are from the degasi and which are from the Aurora

[wise junco]

i'm not saying anyone here is wrong, by the way. There's such a broad set of players to Subnautica that it's hard to capture eveyrone's personal hangups

[round jungle]

and near the end of the game I was getting attacked like 7 times in a row by a shadow leviathan without it ever doing enough to threaten my vehicle, it was just a mild annoyance, like a bug on the windshield

[wise junco]

we have all those same folks on the dev team

[brittle cloak]

haven't played BZ yet but even in the original that's an issue since they only attack once. they're only dangerous in groups

[round jungle]

Yeahhh, I admit even reaper can turn into the "gives up after one attack" problem after a while

[ocean night]

This entire species lives in this picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Hole_pupfish

they should be a video game! Like Frostpunk

[gaunt pasture]

The entire map of SN1 isn’t a very large area. Creatures could very easily spread from one part to another

[lofty junco]

Im really complaining over nothing i just like to dig really deep into the lore and biology of creatures. Keep up the good work at unknown worlds i love the games

[pliant aurora]

why does seth know ALL the peak

[dull finch]

I'm actually really curious how the shiver levithan is going to work

Considering the fact that donya said there's going to be invisible walls to stop us from going out of bounds instead of a void

[warm lion]

the planet is quite small when you see the two islands from orbit

[dull finch]

Oh my god they're so cute I love them

[brittle cloak]

is this the one where some company was trying to do something that would disturb their habitat?

[tranquil kernel]

why must people want to assassinate the sweet little pupfish

[dull finch]

Political reasons or something

[gaunt pasture]

Themes and such

[dull finch]

Someone put a multi on the kalshi market

[dull finch]

Oh my god Fujimoto you're here

[round jungle]

Themes and Such

[ocean night]

So is this species

[round jungle]

Thank you, subnautica

Because you're in a sub and it's nautica

[wise junco]

the walls in early access are soft gates. You can explore beyond them after getting a warning, leviathans will come for you, and you can't build in those areas

[tranquil kernel]

frostpunk is niche? news to me goodlord

[wise junco]

so go out and die if you want to, sure

[dull finch]

Can Batman come after me instead

I'm just saying you could just use a png of Batman, would have saved a lot of budget

[lofty junco]

wdym walls like minecraft border and fortnite zone stuff?

[gaunt pasture]

Uhh

I suppose closer to Fortnite in this scenario

[dull finch]

I am excited

[wise junco]

You dont take damage for going past it

[gaunt pasture]

you could go out there but you shouldn’t

[quiet pewter]

I believe the licensing would cost more

[pliant aurora]

wasn't it literally nominated for GotY or something, and the sequel for even more stuff 😭

[wise junco]

effectively, think of it as a visualization of the void line

[fathom nest]

do we have infos on subnautica 2 early access i was not following the news?

[round jungle]

This is sort of a random thing to bring up, but am I misrembering something about how back when subnautica released, the sea emperor was beyond the limit of what the engine or blender or whatever program was being used could handle for npc model sizes?

[dull finch]

Alright then just use Man

[pastel moth]

it seems like the void except you can't build in it

[wise junco]

and overtime we'll add more content to the proper game and the wall will get pushed back

[quiet pewter]

With a bat

[brittle cloak]

isn't this just subnautica 1's borders?

[gaunt pasture]

Yes but that wasn’t in the question

[dull finch]

Anthony if i shave my head can you show us another photo of Steve

[round jungle]

who is steve?

[dull finch]

I am a negotiator first
And person with hair second

[brittle cloak]

i've heard you can build into the void some in the original so i guess that's different

[cursive kayak]

Fih

[pliant aurora]

yeah frostpunk 2 WON the game awards for best sim & strategy in 2024

[dull finch]

Big black dude kind of
Is a big black version of the half moon

[round jungle]

Is he related to reginald?

[fathom nest]

do we have infos on subnautica 2 early access release date? i was not following any of the news

[cursive kayak]

2026

[dull finch]

What's kind of interesting to me is seeing blender being used as an animation software when most of my life I've only known as the modeling software

[lofty junco]

Are more creature / player interactions coming back because in the early game of sn1 you had so many of them but once you get past the beginning stages it just kinda stops

[fathom nest]

sure thanks

[dull finch]

... Omar

[quiet pewter]

So an 8 month window I suppose

[round jungle]

Ah, I could've sworn something like this was the explanation for why the back half of the sea emperor and the sea dragon dont really have a hitbox

[cursive kayak]

Ye

[quiet pewter]

That isn’t too bad I suppose

[main plover]

oh god he's whistling "the farmer in the dell"

[dull finch]

@low zealot wdyt
Is he an Omar?

[dull finch]

... Why would he

What does this mean foulhawk

[main plover]

reference to television programme

[dull finch]

Aaaand Omar got him

Rip foulhawk

You will be missed

[cursive kayak]

Never heard of it

[cursive kayak]

He will be mist (haha u get it bcs of subnautica and water and mist haha)

This is very sn2 themed

[dull finch]

This is giving me some crucial subnautica 2 lore

[neon sapphire]

Okay Deigo

[dull finch]

Ykw same

[brittle cloak]

parasitic fauna like the tongue eating louse could be a good addition imo though i'm not sure exactly how to make their gameplay interesting. maybe they could detach from the host and attack you or something

[dull finch]

Is it presenting to us

Or is he threatened

[brittle cloak]

looks like a distant relative of the crashfish tbh

[uneven monolith]

Less boom more bonk

[dull finch]

Colonel
I'm trying to enjoy this flare
But the sploosh of the survivor keeps grabbing my attention

[tranquil kernel]

that biome looks so pretty

[brittle cloak]

that animation is pretty great. very fluid

[dark imp]

note that light is possibly a flare

[prisma dust]

Sophie and Anita okay first name we are receiving yet

[dark imp]

flare was not mentioned, don't worry

[dull finch]

You just did
@slate narwhal

[dark imp]

no no

[dull finch]

you just did

[slate narwhal]

I have been summoned

[dull finch]

Yeah he likes flares

[dark imp]

totally healthy focus on flares

[slate narwhal]

Anyway back to whatever I was doing

[ocean night]

When is Omar coming? Is he confirmed for May?

[dull finch]

You say this as we all await for a release date teaser

Omar works apparently

[tranquil kernel]

how mean

[prisma dust]

flare are like the uselles thing in subnautica

[dull finch]

[prisma dust]

i would fill my cyclopys with it just to the interface be more pretty

[slate narwhal]

Nuh uh

[dawn schooner]

I could've been a David or a Gene
But then I wouldn't really be
me

[silent oak]

steve mentioned
i have been summoned

[shrewd fjord]

they're talking about the show 'The Wire'.

[dull finch]

No Omar is just

What I named this guy

[brittle cloak]

ohhhhh a wire

[prisma dust]

MESMER

[dull finch]

No bruh

[prisma dust]

oh sorry forgot i aint desativaded my capslk

Remsmer

[split bluff]

@brazen scroll <t:1777333797:R> your welcome

[fathom adder]

this clip and audio are so satisfying lmao

...❗

[quartz lake]

That’s not a Mesmer that’s a electric Geordie

[gaunt pasture]

I think it’s a non-electric Geordie

[quartz lake]

I thought they were all gonna be electric

[main plover]

the acoustic geordie

[swift kraken]

The abusive geordie

[chilly notch]

Is it true that Subnautica 2 will be set on a new planet?

[gaunt pasture]

specifically a moon

[silent oak]

yes

no more 4546b

[next pivot]

We need t pin that honestly lol

[silent oak]

why?

it doesnt get asked as much as you'd think

[next pivot]

I swear i see that daily

[silent oak]

i dont, thats weird

[chilly notch]

thanks

[swift kraken]

Subnautica 2 takes place on planet our mom

[fathom adder]

The information is very available in #1326944498781130844, people don't read the pins anymore than they do that

[next pivot]

They don’t seem to check either but at least we have an emoji for check pins

[fathom adder]

it's also kind of plastered everywhere on steam

I don't know how someone could avoid seeing that information if they know about the game

[next pivot]

Console

[fathom adder]

even the stupid google AI tells you it's a new world if you type in what is subnautica 2

[uneven plume]

Does anyone know the % chance subnautica 2 even comes out in may?

[fallow socket]

Well i dont know but they prob will announce the date tomorrow

[pastel moth]

50%, it does or it doesn't

[swift kraken]

I’d give it a 13% chance

[mighty lotus]

extremely unlikely unfortunately, i think they mentioned the release date would be around 3 weeks in advance (i forget my source this could be incorrect) to their launch and we are pretty late into April, meaning itd either be late may, my source is wrong, or itl be sometime later this summer/fall.

[eager bane]

They did say they dont have a official date for the game so ya idk

[round jungle]

Leviathan's will almost certainly regain their reality bending powers

[frigid siren]

I can't wait to build a base that looks like a trapezoid on stilts.

[mighty lotus]

im just hyped for actually integrated co-op

[eager bane]

Ya me too

But what about the graphics like they look sick

[uneven plume]

Fair, here’s hoping tho 🙏

[mighty lotus]

fr im hoping im super wrong i dream abt sub2 every day 💔

[fallow socket]

Everyone is

[eager bane]

Dam bro when I thinx about subnautica 2 I watch there video about the game lol

[mighty lotus]

yea in the trailer (obvi ima assume thats ultra/high/max graphics) it looked really clean

[eager bane]

True lol

[mighty lotus]

i yearn to be terrified out of my mind from the deep blue and its creepy crawlies

me on my way to send my friend to go pick up mats, him unknowningly entering collector leviathan territory 👀

yea, i think because many changes happened without their leadership aswell, (though i dont actually know) id assume they have to ammend and readject things back to how they wanter prior

idrk but i rlly hope thers another cyclops vibe big boy, espec sized (but not needed mltiple players to use) but that has the capacity to store an house several characters.

cyclops was my goat

[fervent aurora]

There will be a big sub added in later

[mighty lotus]

yea i just was a little disapointed with the sea bus though i enjoyed its customization capacity

[fathom adder]

2 weeks minimum. If we get a date sometime within the next few weeks late May is possible. That's a pretty decent window, and we've been given plenty of hints from the devs that it'll be sooner rather than later. It could easily not be May of course, but there really isn't anything ruling out the later portions right now based off the information we have -- it honestly feels more likely than not

[dapper yarrow]

I saw sn2 clips on tiktok the other day and the entirety of the comment section was talking about how sn2 graphics are a downgrade and significantly worse than sn1... I'm sorry are tiktok commenters blind? Genuinely thought I was going to have an aneurysm

[brittle cloak]

there's also an ocean fest on steam towards the end of may so it's a good time to release early access

[fathom adder]

tomorrow will probably tell us a lot and set our expectations whether it's information on release, information on a trailer or something totally unrelated

[mighty lotus]

of what i have seen i think they are just clickbaiting

[warm lion]

yes, they are blind

[mighty lotus]

i just got here tdy, whats going on tmw?

[warm lion]

so glad i never downloaded that app

[fervent aurora]

The final episode of dive into the legacy

It supposedly contains some sort of subnautica 2 related content

[fathom adder]

Devs have been hyping us up for something at the end of the last Dive into the Legacy video releasing tomorrow

[mighty lotus]

hype

[tame lagoon]

Idk if it means something but steam ocean fest sale is in may

18-25 may

[warm lion]

Apparently we will need frame pausing skills

[somber tiger]

I mean they’re not gonna want to put the game on sale at release tho?

[silent oak]

yeah i suck at that 😭

[silent oak]

ocean fest isnt just a sale, no?

[somber tiger]

Ohk I didn’t know I just assumed it was

[warm lion]

pro tip, use , and . when you pause a yt video to go frame by frame

[fathom adder]

(These are the screenshots for the dev hype) #subnautica-2-chat message #subnautica-2-chat message

[silent oak]

good to know, someone remind me tomorrow

[somber tiger]

Ik they have the medieval one rn and there’s stuff on sale

[tame lagoon]

''Steam Next Fest remains one of the platform’s most anticipated events, offering players a chance to try hundreds of demos before games hit the market. Alongside demos, the event features developer livestreams, Q&A sessions, and community spotlights.''

[brittle cloak]

bro's a professional analyzer

[minor moss]

This game might force me to upgrade my graphics card

[mighty lotus]

i just wanna sacrfice my friend to a collector while i scan 💔

(were both finna get eaten alive)

[fathom adder]

It's quite a horrible time economically for that

[mighty lotus]

fr

[minor moss]

I dont mind

[fathom adder]

what do you currently have?

[minor moss]

A 5060

[mighty lotus]

if sub 2 lives up to the hype, then its worth

im feinding so hard for this game

[tropic jasper]

A 5060 should be FAR more than enough for SN2

[fathom adder]

I can understand wanting to upgrade to get the best graphics possible but you'd probably be fine even if you didn't upgrade

like that's above the recommended graphics card

[tropic jasper]

Yeah recommended specs are a 3070

[latent phoenix]

will there be more leviathan than only collector

[fathom adder]

yes

[fallow socket]

Yeah for sure

[fathom adder]

A developer mentioned there being around 5 leviathans just in the first early access version alone

[fallow socket]

Im gonna sacrifice my friends for 1 titanium at them

[warm lion]

slight chance of a leviathan reveal tomorrow?

[fathom adder]

I guess that could technically warrant all the hype?

[stone slate]

the only lower quality video we've seen is from ditl and even that wasn't half bad

[mighty lotus]

I need that copper dawg

We need batteries🙏

[fallow socket]

Real

[oak nova]

A quick question if the game is going to be cross platform at the beginning of early access, how will that work with mods? Will console be able to use mods in a workshop through the game? Or will it have to be straight vanilla in order for Xbox to play with Pc

Just a hypothetical

[pastel moth]

it will be crossplay between pc/xbox

[mighty lotus]

Other than the collector lev, do you know any of the other ones

[oak nova]

Yes I know, but what about the modding aspect of it

[low zealot]

I'd imagine the console player will just be unable to see or use modded content, and the effects might be different in each device

[fathom adder]

mod support isn't a focus for early access

[oak nova]

I get that

[low zealot]

You don't need mod support for there to be mods. The developers will not prevent you.

[fathom adder]

"Like with VR support right now, our focus and efforts are on making Subnautica 2 the best possible game and experience it can be for our players. Our studio was formed from a Half-Life mod called Natural Selection. So whilst we appreciate and respect all of the work our modding community do, official modding support during early access isn't something we're planning for. But we are excited to see what the modding community come up with during that time anyway."

[oak nova]

I’m just saying a hypothetical for later on

[fathom adder]

I know, but they were asking for specifics

[brittle cloak]

it's detrimental to early access anyways. the purpose of early access is testing and looking for bugs

[warm lion]

i see modding as a let the community figure it out thing

[fallow socket]

Bro they gonna put spongebob as the collector

[oak nova]

I get that, but I’m talking about when people develop mods, how would they configure it so that console players aren’t left out when it comes to trying to try new stuff with people on pc

[pastel moth]

well no, we want to provide feedback and help guide the direction of the game during development

[warm lion]

squidward

mr krabs as the coral crab

[pastel moth]

it's very possible that some QoL mods get added to the game if they're popular enough

[low zealot]

Console has always been left out, it'll keep it that way. There's nothing modders can do

[fallow socket]

Masterchief as one of the main guys

[worn plover]

So this game releasing tomorrow or wat

[warm lion]

never played a master chief game

[fallow socket]

Me too

[low zealot]

We'll get at least 2 weeks of notice before it releases

[fathom adder]

the game is not releasing tomorrow, no

there's going to be something significant at the end of tomorrow's dive into the legacy video but we have no idea what that is

[worn plover]

I know lol, but one can dream

[low zealot]

I bet they'll announce another series...

[fathom adder]

that might inspire more riot than excitement I fear lol

[fallow socket]

If thats the case im gonna tweak

[low zealot]

Twerk all you want, more content is more goodies for me!

[pastel moth]

[fathom adder]

We know about the collector, the shiver, and the coral crab currently -- I think that's all? there should be 2 more that we haven't seen yet

[low zealot]

Maybe we have seen, but we just don't know it yet

[fallow socket]

Is the shiver the one thats gonna be in the void?

[low zealot]

The tree looks suspicious

[pastel moth]

there was a blurred out leviathan in the collector vlog

[fallow socket]

👀

[civic birch]

There is one more but 🤐

[rancid jasper]

When's the last video?

[fathom adder]

yeah

[tropic jasper]

In 14 hours and 3 minutes

[rancid jasper]

ok

[oak nova]

I get that, but who knows, I mean if a pc player has to disable a bunch of stuff to play with console players I think that would be annoying to them, but I think it would be a cool idea, branching console and pc together allowing for mods to be played without having to play on one system

[fallow socket]

Bros put an alarm on the new ditl

[tropic jasper]

Lmao no I'm just a Time Lord

[civic birch]

Id rather be a jumper

[gloomy mulch]

is subnautica 2 going to be mac supported on steam

[pastel moth]

not for early access launch, they haven't confirmed anything past that

[gloomy magnet]

what date is it

[surreal compass]

guys im SO exited for subnautica 2

[gloomy magnet]

what date is it

[latent phoenix]

Same

[surreal compass]

idk, i think they said like early may

[pastel moth]

they haven't confirmed any date other than 2026

[tropic jasper]

No date has been confirmed

[surreal compass]

(idk if that leak or wtv was wrong i lowk got it off tiktok 💀

[ocean night]

Everyone is making fun of OP here but I think they’re right

https://old.reddit.com/r/subnautica/comments/1sxbkmm/the_air_bladder_makes_no_sense/

It’s been bothering me all day!

[surreal compass]

its probably denser

[warm lion]

i thought that too whenever i use it

[surreal compass]

air or something idk

[fervent aurora]

what if it's boosting you up by propelling you with the air too

[quaint moat]

is subnautica 2 might be spooky

[fervent aurora]

or there was that comment that said it's producing so much that it's leaking the excess

[ocean night]

That's absurd, and would also work forward/down/whatever

[ocean night]

Sure but then why does it start out inflated

[warm lion]

right?

[cerulean fossil]

I cant wait

For sub 2

[fallow socket]

So does that mean that riley blow air in the air bladder🤔

[fervent aurora]

ohh i see why it's wack

[quaint moat]

but riley can hold cyclops in his inventory he can do anything

[ocean night]

Why do they call it air bladder when you of in the air of out bladder breathe the air

[dark imp]

what's that in English?

[gaunt pasture]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica/images/2/20/Arbladder.gif/revision/latest?cb=20170501122557

[drifting crag]

it definitely should get less buoyant as it loses air

it should work by storing compressed air inside, and rapidly decompressing it into the bladder

[pliant jacinth]

That's how they work irl anyway

[sour patio]

Air is stored in the lungs not the bladder.......

[drifting crag]

can be if you mess up badly enough

[fervent aurora]

air blud

[fervent path]

Reddit doesn't want logic Reddit wants blood

[fervent aurora]

I want subnautica 2

[fervent path]

i want toys and treats

[sweet igloo]

same

[neon sapphire]

Okay Sluggy

[ebon marsh]

Typical reddit dogpiling.

[dull finch]

its farting

[fathom adder]

wow, so off topic, smh

[grand lotus]

there is now a second page talking about some sub2 is coming out in may? now everyone is just throwing mix signals?

[kind sand]

its not confirmed

fake sources

[swift kraken]

I don't even know what you talking about

A second page? Where?

[pliant aurora]

what's the first page?? 😭

[kind sand]

chatGPT

[swift kraken]

First page Subnautica 2 not coming out in May
Second page I peed my pants in anticipation

[grand lotus]

some goober on insta talking about some May 2nd and another post from a completely other page talking about just in may

[swift kraken]

I can tell you with 100% certainty that it is not May 2nd

[kind sand]

both are fake and have no proof other than AI slop

[grand lotus]

yall gotta hunt them down bc i dont even search stuff for subnautica on insta and if im getting it good ammount of randoms are too

[swift kraken]

It could be May, but it very well could not be May

[dark imp]

it cannot be may 2nd, we were promised 2-6 weeks advance warning

some say 8 weeks

[ebon marsh]

Rinse and repeat lol

[grand lotus]

i havent seen them use anything of ai? but i appretiate the ai hate as well

[swift kraken]

The earliest SN2 could release is May 12th if the release date is announced tomorrow, which is multiple big ifs

[pliant aurora]

well, may in general does have evidence pointing to it, but nothing that's, like, an official, direct statement

[swift kraken]

We know it seems like something is coming soon, but no specific information is available quite yet

[kind sand]

the people makeing the videos are using AI as a source and not looking into what the AI is using as a resource. IGN and a couple others are sayings it might be may so AI is saying its may

[grand lotus]

all im relaying is that im seeing them and one of the accounts called gaminghof is a verified insta account some most def more people are being exposed to this. the comments on most of these posts relay the same thing that its fake but im starting to get more sub2 "release date reveal videos" telling people when the game is set to come out

[swift kraken]

Yeah it's a problem, we do our best to dispell the misinformation when it comes here but there's only so much we can do. For the devs sake we can only hope it releases in May lol

[pliant aurora]

like okay, again, no one has gone "it is releasing in may", BUT there are multiple things that can reasonably be interpreted as hints to a release in may-june
that is just speculation though, but I also would maybe go so far as to say; I think saying "there is no way to interpret anything as hinting at may" is just ignorant and dishonest

the types of content creators posting stuff like this have little actual credibility to begin with, so taking the risk and posting "release date revealed" is just easy views. and it's not like it's even really a risk. not having much credibility has the benefit of not having much of anything to lose if you end up wrong

[silent oak]

i think one thing that doesnt get enough attention is how absolutely peak the sn2 ost is gonna be. i'm currently listening through the sn1 and sbz soundtracks and dude, the music is sn is SO underrated

[swift kraken]

You know this but the quality of the SN1 soundtrack has little to do with what the quality of the SN2 soundtrack will be lol

[silent oak]

i'm so hyped for sn2's music, like holy. if it matches the sn1 vibe with sbz style i'm gonna be in heaven

[kind sand]

fr

[kind sand]

i hope the new abandon ship theme is good

[swift kraken]

The BZ music was goated though it just got a little repetitive at points despite being longer than the SN1 soundtrack, so hopefully they figure out how to tweak it a bit

[silent oak]

well yeah. i thought i heard somewhere that they're trying to make the sn2 soundtrack similar to both games?

[silent oak]

same

[swift kraken]

🤷‍♂️ We can hope so

[silent oak]

yeah for sure

[pliant aurora]

regardless of chylinski as a person, I do think his music was good, and I find prunty to have continued the spirit well. I don't doubt he will continue into sn2, like he did for bz

[brazen pine]

A lot of the pieces are supposed to have parts from below zero.

[kind sand]

wdm as a person. is there a controversy with him?

[silent oak]

sbz's soundtrack isnt my favorite of the two but it does fit the game well, i know it'll work out because ben is an incredible artist but i'm not getting my hopes up

[silent oak]

very much. google it.

[silent oak]

playing medusa planetarium rn

[silent oak]

i heavily agree

[silent oak]

oooo this is neat

[pliant aurora]

yeah, google is your friend here. we've been asked not to talk about specifics abt chylinski here on dc. directing ppl to his social medias works

[sweet otter]

Wait it’s a reused soundtrack rn?

They are gonna change it right

[silent oak]

thats not what that says at all

[kind sand]

ah i see it

[silent oak]

all new soundtrack, but some themes are returning from sbz

[kind sand]

shocked i never heard of this

[sweet otter]

Motifs?

[lofty junco]

crash site is my favorite ost. sh is whimsical

[silent oak]

look it up

like, a reoccurring theme in the songs

[heady tulip]

What does it mean?

[silent oak]

some themes will be returning in sn2's music

[sweet otter]

The theme being???

[silent oak]

well, we dont know yet

[lofty junco]

oh my lord that would be a dream come true 🙏

[sweet otter]

I mean why not make it all new is there a reason like

[fervent aurora]

we've heard the bz credits theme return for (presumably) the sn2 credits theme

[silent oak]

gods, how do i explain this. basically imagine two songs from two different games that sound somewhat similar

[silent oak]

it will be all new

[lofty junco]

if the menu music is the same as sn1 i might cry

[silent oak]

reoccurring scales, or parts of the song in different ways or keys or majors

[sweet otter]

Right but same theme why not make a new theme why do we need the reoccurring parts of songs

[kind sand]

the menu music is the best

[silent oak]

man for gods sakes i dont know i'm not ben prunty

i for one am glad some motifs are returning. i liked bz's music.

[silent oak]

thank you

[lofty junco]

So does that mean they are only resuing bz soundtrack because its ben prunty or what

[sweet otter]

I don’t mean to hate or anything I just think that a soundtrack is better if it didn’t need to reoccur anything

[fervent aurora]

simon (sn1 composer) isn't working on the series anymore and isn't coming back
so they can only 'call back' to ben's music from bz

[silent oak]

read the goddamn messages they just forwarded. they arent reusing sbz's soundtrack

[lofty junco]

you know what i mean broski

[fervent aurora]

reusing melodies

[dark imp]

erm, don't do that again

[silent oak]

oh my god i feel like a music professor in a middle school 😭

[sweet otter]

I mean that’s the same with albums or anything like reusing things I think is not that great and I’m not hating I’m excited for the new soundtrack

[silent oak]

that doesnt really narrow down what i'm not suppose to do

[pliant aurora]

I think this gives a good general idea about the music and reoccurring themes, and to add

motif (noun)
an idea that is used many times in a piece of writing or music:
motif of The motif of betrayal is crucial in all these stories.

leitmotif (noun)

1. an associated melodic phrase or figure that accompanies the reappearance of an idea, person, or situation especially in a Wagnerian music drama
2. a dominant recurring theme
   (so, basically theme song or small theme "tune")

[dark imp]

big font

[silent oak]

ah, kk

never was told off for it until now but i'll keep that in mind

[dark imp]

it's why caps is blocked. This is worselol

[sweet otter]

Caps

[kind sand]

wait it is

[sweet otter]

CAPS

[silent oak]

if people arent gonna read something, why not make it easier for them to see it lmao

[dark imp]

all-caps messages are removed with a warning (?)

[lofty junco]

i was only asking if sn1 music would be used as a “motif” or whatever gibberish your sptting

[silent oak]

motifs arent gibberish and as a musician thats not nice

and no, it wont be. the composer for sn1 isnt working on sn2. the guy from sbz (ben prunty) is

[lofty junco]

see thats what i was asking but instead you just used big font and told me to read something didnt have what i was asking

[main plover]

Everyone can stand to be a lot more civil here

[warm lion]

^

[silent oak]

your question was already answered in those messages tho

[lofty junco]

nuh uh

[silent oak]

you can't just say nuh uh

[dull finch]

what about a quadrapalegic
they cant stand at all

[silent oak]

.

[honest breach]

Are we at around 13 hours to the next video everyone was looking forward to?

[silent oak]

uhh lemme do my math

7pm now, 8am tomorrow, yup checks out

[ivory orchid]

what video

[silent oak]

the last DITL

[brittle cloak]

subnautica 3 announcement

[main plover]

One more sleep til dive into the legacy

[honest breach]

Time zones is why I said the number of hours

[lofty junco]

subnautica below zero dlc announcement

[silent oak]

its sad i have to clarify this is a joke

[twilit leaf]

Rip

[silent oak]

yea i gotchu, i was just checking the time

[oak harbor]

Hi

[kind sand]

the last one :(

[oak harbor]

Hello Helldiver

[silent oak]

ikr

[lofty junco]

one more shower until the last ditl 🙏🙏

[oak harbor]

Critical blunder…

[kind sand]

hello other helldiver

[pliant aurora]

dive into the legacy <t:1777388400:s>
as an advocate of clarity (BETTER WORLD TREE NAME) @time is possibly my favourite (although pc exclusive) thing on discord currently

[kind sand]

what shower

[lofty junco]

A shower

[kind sand]

what is a shower

[lofty junco]

My shower

[honest breach]

Indoor rain meant to clean oneself

[lofty junco]

hopefully the last ditl isnt to revealing of sn2 gameplay i just want some announcement toward the game

[honest breach]

We need not worry now it will be here soon

[kind sand]

if there is gameplay in it i hope for tadpole

[honest breach]

Anyone think the chassis with arms and legs will be called the frog?

[lofty junco]

The toad

[honest breach]

If it truly exists

[silent oak]

i dont think we'll have a chassis for that

[honest breach]

Old concept art

[kind sand]

i hope its called the frog

[silent oak]

concept art?

[lofty junco]

I hope prawn suit of some sort makes a return. especially the chasiss with the tadpole that would be dope asf

[uneven glade]

I think it’s still just the tadpole, not renamed

[honest breach]

Not sure it really exists in game so far, I don’t personally have the original picture

[lofty junco]

yea its just concept art but really cool concept art

[silent oak]

someone get the pic of the concept art bec i wanna see it

[honest breach]

It could still be called the frog chassis

[silent oak]

bec i remember the model existing for a prawn-like vehicle

[dull finch]

Below Zero DLC announcment in X hours

[pliant aurora]

Wall, sorry
I feel like there might be some confusion left from motifs and stuff, and I wanna try to explain to the best of my limited knowledge.
Having a recurring motif doesn't mean reusing songs, it generally means that songs will sort of invoke the similiar feeling, and a motif will ideally be recognizeable as meaning a certain thing.
Everyone knows super mario and the iconic theme. That is marios leitmotif. when you hear it, you KNOW something mario-related is going on.
same with how sams discoveries was used in below zero. hearing it meant you have found sam related lore.
How this will exactly play out in sn2 is unknown and a spoiler, but it will not mean using the same songs, BUT probably that the songs will invoke similar feelings. I think it could be compared to a composers "fingerprint" in a vauge way. almost all creators of anything will have similarities between everything they create, because that is their style.
having a reused MOTIF is different from using a recurring TRACK. I assume it moreso means that the songs will sound more alike, which is not a bad thing, as that strengtens subnautica's "leitmotif"

I hope I'm not THAT wrong about anything...

[dull finch]

A motif isnt a fingerprint

[lofty junco]

imagine a biome thats pitch black with the only flora being mushrooms that glow when they sense movement/sound. Then there would be a giant creature of some kind that can only be seen from far away when its moving closer to you, not being able to see the full thing but just the outline

[pliant aurora]

well, no, but I personally think how motifs will be used in sn2 will be vaguely comparable to a fingerprint of pruntys

[dull finch]

what

[chrome cosmos]

thats cool but how would we be able to survive it

[honest breach]

Seeing the dark object only for the light it blocks is very astronomically normal

[pliant aurora]

I don't know man, I am not qualified for this

[lofty junco]

there would be other fauna that feed on the plant life that the big creature feeds on

idk just a idea

[pliant aurora]

I know what I am thinking but there's no chance of me articulating it

[honest breach]

As in normal in the field of astronomy not using that as an adjective replacing very

[chrome cosmos]

i like it

[lofty junco]

can you explain more

[honest breach]

If something can’t be seen normally at the level of planets and larger objects, waiting for light to dim or distort as it passes in front is another way it can be discovered

[lofty junco]

i see

[pliant aurora]

stuff like black holes are seen like this, right? (along with gravity lensing)
since they suck up all the light, you can't really see them, but you see light NOT coming from where it should.
although any sufficiently massive bodies can bend the light enough for this iirc

once again I hope I'm not too far off

[honest breach]

Sometimes we even find out stars have planets because they dim every so often as the planet passes in front, though what you mentioned also sounds right.

[lofty junco]

yeah. The chelicerate is similar as its supposed to be darker the deeper you are because the further light is away from red the darker the red pigments get. Although this doesnt work as intended because the chelicerate is in very bright biomes

[pliant aurora]

first time I've even considered it being supposed to work like this lol 😭
it really is in too brightly lit biomes

[honest breach]

That is water absorbing light, you lose certain colors at certain depths normally, but subnautica usually doesn’t do this, though we can only speculate why that is the case.

[lofty junco]

the chelicerate in darker biomes like the dunes would be terrifying since it would blend in better. Just kind of an oversight when making the chelicerate reason because thats actually how it works in game

[lofty junco]

the chelicerate does lose its color in deeper waters though

[honest breach]

It’s coded to do that?

[warm lion]

blue

[pliant aurora]

I mean I think there are undoubtedly plenty of questionable design decisions in below zero, whether you like the game or not

[lofty junco]

i dont know but it looks like it

i also dont know why they put a leviathan that is pure black in a super bright biome

[lusty sierra]

i don't feel like actually going and checking right now but based on memory i feel like the chelicerates in the tree spires and the one at the world's edge volcano look less red than their counterparts in the purple vents

[lofty junco]

yeah that’s why i brought it up because i think its a really cool design choice for the chelicerate just not executed well enough

[honest breach]

The probable reason for the lack of normal color loss is because of how quickly everything becomes blue, green, or black in normal ocean waters, chart to follow if it isn’t blocked.

This was taken from the NOAA ocean exploration database

[lofty junco]

im glad this isnt how it works everywhere in game because everything would look super dull

[honest breach]

Yeah, wouldn’t be the same feel, but likely much creepier

[fervent aurora]

that's why the void is only blue

[dark imp]

This only a<pplies to sunlight, not bioluminiscence or headlights

Becasue those are much closer

[honest breach]

Aaah 1% battery!

[warm lion]

blue

[mighty lotus]

Just came back to a space light convo lol

[lofty junco]

game looks so good so far. i just know the collector is gonna blend in like crazy to that blue fog

[fervent aurora]

I think they pulled off its entrance really well
the biome it appears in is extra murky

[silent oak]

i see steve

summoning has occurred

[lofty junco]

Yeah the biomes leviathans are in should match the color they are. Sn1 does it perfectly and bz does it meh

[silent oak]

NoAA... NoA??

[pulsar beacon]

our bot
it is getting faster

[silent oak]

good bot

[pulsar beacon]

its accuracy is improving with the hour

[worldly moth]

Subnautica two?

[lusty sierra]

correct

[quartz lake]

Do you think those new steam screenshots will be released tomorrow

[warm lion]

we don't think

[brittle cloak]

therefore we do not am

[quartz lake]

Who’s excited to see a trailer for the trailer tomorrow

[frail mountain]

Me! lmao

[quartz lake]

What if it’s an announcement for the announcement of the release date

[silent oak]

indeed

[silent oak]

that's it, no more subnautica 2 channel

[swift kraken]

I will not be going to my 8am class tomorrow (Becauss I need sleep to take midterms later in the week) so I will be here for the final DITL 🙏

[silent oak]

i will not be going to school tomorrow so i will be here for final DITL aswell

[fathom adder]

The DitL video releases at 1am for me so I’m just going to wake up to whatever reaction is going on in here, lol

[silent oak]

oh lord

it's happening around 8am for me lmao

yeah i'm sure it'll be chaotic

[fathom adder]

lucky

[silent oak]

not when you have school

[fathom adder]

It’s going to be exciting regardless, we know that for certain, but there’s definitely going to be different levels of excitement with mixes of disappointment depending on what it is

[silent oak]

yeah for sure

i'm just excited as all hell to see what could POSSIBLY warrant such hype from obraxis

[fervent aurora]

air pump reveal

[silent oak]

oop, it's 8:08 make a wish chat

[brittle cloak]

plant reveal

[fossil iris]

They’ve shown us halfmoon fish, but tomorrow they’re gonna show the fullmoons

That’s the big reveal

Sorry for spoiling

[rustic comet]

They're gonna moon us?

[sturdy crater]

Will there be a leviathan similar to the reaper?

[fossil iris]

Like… visually similar? Or are you asking if there’ll be another aggressive leviathan b/c I feel like that’s definitively yes

[sturdy crater]

The behavior of it

[chilly verge]

Guys is it planned for may

[sturdy crater]

I’m not sure we will see i guess

[fervent aurora]

may is unconfirmed

but it looks possible

[fossil iris]

I mean it seems like the collector leviathans are already openly hostile towards players that they see. Different look & more complex behaviors, but overall yeah if it sees you it’ll grab you

[brittle cloak]

it grabs you but that doesn't mean it's hostile. maybe it just thinks players are neat

[honest breach]

Do you think it might be more neutral to start but then get more hostile when you harvest a particular resource only found in their territory?

[sturdy crater]

I’m going to be curious what happens with the more complex behaviors of creatures compared to the first game

[drifting crag]

It would be cool if there's a way to appease it, something you can offer it and see it willingly decide to let you live, I think suddenly seeing intelligence in a creature so monstrously large would be memorable

[fervent aurora]

the writer said it grabs you because it evolved to open up clams
it sees your hard vehicle and its natural train of thought is to try and crack it open for the food inside

[honest breach]

We saw some references to an unknown pearl resource(?) that I seem to remember being connected to the collector.

[sturdy crater]

If would be cool to see a leviathan that only gets aggressive if you make it angry

But helps you if you make it happy

Of course it would be untameable since it’s a leviathan

[silent oak]

unconfirmed

i really hope if it is may, it's the 23rd

good way to honor an old friend.

[dull finch]

Huh

[leaden herald]

whens it planned to come out? do we know?

[fervent aurora]

We don’t have an official date other than 2026

[silent oak]

2026

[honest breach]

No, check back in 12 hours

[swift kraken]

So I fear that’s a Saturday

[leaden herald]

i just got the first one

[silent oak]

damnit

it should be the 22nd then. i wish

[swift kraken]

My money is still on the 26th (just speculation of course though)

[honest breach]

Announcements will tell the release date 2-6 weeks before it actually happens

[silent oak]

any reason why?

[dull finch]

13th

[silent oak]

i'll ask the same thing

[dull finch]

?

[mighty lotus]

Ideally we find out tmw

[silent oak]

hopefully

[silent oak]

read my message right above yours

[dull finch]

I'm good

[silent oak]

dude

genuine question, no harsh intentions
why are you like that

[dull finch]

Hico tyco

[honest breach]

In ≈ 11 1/2 - 12 hours we will have an announcement which has a small chance of announcing the release date

[swift kraken]

I think it was pretty much a random guess I made a while back (before the May rumors I might add!)

[swift kraken]

Hico

[silent oak]

ah nice

[swift kraken]

It being a Tuesday is something I considered and I could kind of tell the video cadence was picking up, but that’s about it

[silent oak]

very nice