💬┃talk

[fresh hatch]

Tebex is a private company they can chose so they work with.

[opal musk]

yeah true

[fresh hatch]

Also no contract are formed with tebex when you work with them.

So they don’t have the obligation to work with you for any amount of time .

Just send you the money for any purchases made through them.

[steady solar]

Do you guys believe what Brendan is saying

[rough spear]

a proxy fixes both routing and region issues. direct connection statistically holds more latency when target regions are set far apart from each other, than if you had a proxy, in which routes are built through peers that are meant specifically for handling and rerouting connections, almost instantly between each other

that extra hop compensates with the rest of the optimized routes

[echo flint]

Since tebex dropped feather, how will purchases work for points lmao

[rough spear]

its not a matter of hops, its a matter of how fast you get to the target in an overall time

[fresh hatch]

There’s alternatives

[steady solar]

They switched to Neonpay. Im sure once they catch wind of this fraud they will drop them too

[median storm]

a proxy can help in some routing or region cases but it doesnt “fix” them universally it still depends on provider quality peering and location and it still adds its own hop direct connection is often already optimal when players are close or well peered so there isnt a general rule that proxies always have lower latency its situational not guaranteed

[echo flint]

Are you still rambling about the proxy crap

Its been like 2 hours dawg

[fresh hatch]

Anyway feather became a debate club atp.

I can’t be bothered to take sides in any internet drama

I’ll just watch it unfold.

[echo flint]

Ts the best PR training that I've had in years

[median storm]

that only holds if the “optimized route” is actually better in practice which isnt guaranteed proxies dont remove distance or physics they just change the path and sometimes add their own hop so overall time can go up or down depending on region peering and provider so its not a universal improvement just a tradeoff between routes not a fixed advantage

[median storm]

(responding to this)

[echo flint]

Im trying to make a long-form and a couple short form vids talking about all of this

So much easier than the marlow stuff

[steady solar]

Whats your stance

[coarse niche]

Lowky that's what I do I just watch it and after its done il choose the side that I think has won or has better values

[blazing summit]

what is swight his profile code?

[echo flint]

Feather is in the wrong (as far as I can tell), but I'll be looking at everything from the right angles

[steady solar]

fair

[rough spear]

im not saying proxies are always better (even though they are due to other issues regarding a personal machine rather than a professional machine), im saying that in MOST cases, it is better to use a proxy, so yes, in the case of the targets living close by, it would be beneficial to just use a self host (even though it wouldn't be as there are other issues with personal machines). and as i said before, you can view the information of certain proxies yourself before deciding, so you wouldn't handpick the absolute worst provider on purpose for no reason. you'd pick the one that has the least average routing time to all of the targets

[gleaming nexus]

Huh-

[opal musk]

yeah honestly, i feel like feather is probably in the wrong. they've already lied in their statements so it's not looking good.

[echo flint]

Tebex wasnt in the wrong for dropping feather, but that definitely sparked some sh in feather management

[coarse niche]

Just cuz most businesses don't do that doesn't mean its wrong... also if it were illegal or some crap something would have long happened and feather would have been sued

[long crater]

Hello can anyone help me

[rough spear]

proxies can decrease distances though? commercial routes are often longer than they need to be, whereas proxy hosting centers have built in routes designed to cover more distance with shorter overall routes

[median storm]

even if you pick a good provider it still depends on where the players actually are and how their isp routes traffic so you cant guarantee most cases will be better a proxy can help in some scenarios but a local direct host is often already optimal for close players and adding another layer doesnt automatically improve routing it just changes it so its still a case by case tradeoff not a general “most cases better” rule

[long crater]

Helpppppppppppp

[steady solar]

Agreed, I love that they said this publicly and in an article too.

When this all blows up in their face it's going to be beautiful

[steady solar]

Not in the wrong at all, seeing as their parent company is ALSO in the ads business.

[median storm]

they cant decrease physical distance they can only change routing paths sometimes those paths are more efficient sometimes they arent commercial backbones are often already highly optimized so a proxy is not inherently shorter or faster it just depends on peering and location so again its not a guaranteed reduction in latency just a different route choice

[steady solar]

This hurts them as much as it hurts others

[rough spear]

didnt i just answer this first part? i said you can handpick providers based on their location, so where the players actually are is just dependant on what location you pick for a proxy provider. and "how their isp routes traffic" also affects direct connections. also i couldn't help but notice you keep shifting your position. you were before saying "direct connections are circumstancial and you are overgeneralizing", and now you've switched to "direct connections are optimal for close players"

[opal musk]

yep. it's over for them tbh. honestly, click fraud is very common in the industry anyway so i think they'll just get away with it.

[median storm]

i havent shifted my position its always been that its situational not that one is always better picking a proxy location doesnt remove individual isp routing differences so you still cant guarantee it will be better and for close players direct is often already optimal so a proxy isnt automatically an improvement just a different route depending on setup

[steady solar]

I don't think they will get away with it. I think most of their users will be clueless and wont keep up with this. But I think if we message the people they work with, they will probably drop them.

[blazing rune]

hello

[steady solar]

Especially if you email the people who currently run their ads (Aniview) about this fraud. Now that its public info, I think they have an obligation to not participate in this

I dont see them sticking with them for too long once they catch wind of this

[rough spear]

they can change physical distance though. commercial routes are usually paths that packets take because of business relationships between networking nodes, not because they are geographically shortest. on the other hand, proxy routes rely on an intermediate system that forwards connections through geographically shorter distances through optimized routes, which is bound by contract with the user that agrees to purchase the service

[blazing rune]

niger boy

[knotty estuary]

?

[steady solar]

thanks mods

[knotty estuary]

dude wtf

[median storm]

they still dont change physical distance between endpoints they can change routing paths and sometimes make them more efficient but thats not guaranteed and commercial backbone routing is already heavily optimized through peering agreements so proxies dont inherently create shorter routes they just use different ones which can be better or worse depending on the case

[rough spear]

the "setup" you're implying here is just location. there's few cases where every target is close to each other, and in the case it was, direct connection still wouldn't be better due to other issues with hosting through your machine

[knotty estuary]

xqr your a nerd ngl i can tell u be using them furry tail 🍑 plugs FR

[steady solar]

Also why did brendan not mention the report that was made about feather? Where they made up 10% of the ad traffic to desktop apps

[rough spear]

alright ok i can tell you're just superficially reading what im saying and that you're just not reading my arguments, so ill stop here

[rough spear]

ur weird

[median storm]

setup isnt just location it includes hardware, network, stability, upload speed and configuration so yes sometimes a proxy can help but in many small groups where everyone is already well connected direct hosting is already optimal and there is no universal rule that a proxy is always better it still depends on conditions not a fixed outcome

[knotty estuary]

@rough spear lemme eyp and sydtycimm

[median storm]

you can leave it there if you want but just to be clear i did read your points the disagreement is just that youre treating proxies as generally superior and im treating it as situational with tradeoffs thats the whole difference here

[rough spear]

never said that a proxy is better universally

im saying its better generally, not universally

[knotty estuary]

?

[median storm]

fair but your argument has still been leaning toward proxies being better in most cases which i disagree with because in a lot of small or well connected setups direct hosting is already optimal so there isnt a general “most cases” advantage it really just depends on the specific network conditions and scale

[rough spear]

Ephesians 4:29

👍

[blazing summit]

how long does swight ve exsist

v3

[knotty estuary]

type again and i nutt in you brother

🍑 type shi?

[heavy lava]

W verse

[knotty estuary]

my bad bro i ask for your forgiveness...

[lament island]

whats happening bois

is there no member role ;-;

[fair pollen]

do tickets not work?

[keen totem]

okay bro what the hell

[steady solar]

how do the messages not get deleted

[shrewd jay]

do i still use feather?

[keen totem]

feather client's chat isn't the same anymore after that video

[keen totem]

up to you

[shrewd jay]

is it have any malware?

[fickle forum]

yoo

yoo dpes anyone here play pokemon goo?

[late dune]

anyone got a good mod profile i want my game to look beatifull

[lunar crypt]

what video

did i miss something

[keen totem]

yeah

something very big

[clear magnet]

شو هال اسم هههههههههه

[crimson tinsel]

I'm just laughing at everyone so mad about it.
Here's an idea. Close the launcher after launching the game, it doesn't kill your Minecraft client

[errant meadow]

check calebissalty's channel on yt

[shrewd jay]

i do it some time cuz of my ram

[kind glacier]

yeah no that's what i always do cus i'm on an very old laptop

[frank scroll]

See I think that's stupid and my Minecraft launcher shouldn't have ads at all

[lunar crypt]

lol

[dire leaf]

ik

[crimson tinsel]

Oh I've proven in a ticket their launcher has a memory leak. Got ignored by the dev team and closed immediately

[shrewd jay]

ohoho

[orchid briar]

No

[shrewd jay]

thnks

[errant meadow]

dont think anyone is mad about the fraud thing, like its pretty succesful people stealin from rich people, who gives a sht, the lag thing has always been an issue and the video highlights it more. even without the ad lagging part

[brave anvil]

is feather shutting down

i hope it is

feather is a bad client

[crimson tinsel]

Feather is a nonprofit and still in beta.
Do they have supporters?
Do they have investors?
Do they have partnerships where they gain enough money to sustain development?
Do they have any other way to gain revenue which isn't hoping people purchase cosmetics?
Do they have the money flowing in to also keep their ties and partnerships with other services such as Modrinth?

[frank scroll]

Pluh

[brave anvil]

instead

[frank scroll]

Is feather a nonprofit

[brave anvil]

people should

delete feathr

[dry matrix]

lmfaoo nah they made a client with a store with cosmetics and ads to be nonprofit

[frank scroll]

Yeah I had to double check but it's not

[lunar crypt]

i cba watching the vid but idc i watched like 3 mins all i know is they profit of useres having the client in the back

idk how it affects me tbh

[chilly grotto]

Feather is NOT a non profit 😭😭😭

[crimson tinsel]

They were several months ago with V1 of the UI

[dry matrix]

shows the knowledge of people defending this shit

[chilly grotto]

😭😭

[warm schooner]

obviously feather is not a non profit

[frank scroll]

Please look up what a nonprofit is actually

[warm schooner]

brandan was constantly talking about being "we're poor"

[frank scroll]

Feather run by the corporation formerly known as digital ingot, which is a way cooler name than whatever Bs it is now

[halcyon saffron]

I think we would all end up like homelander if given his powers

[warm schooner]

which clearly meant he needed profits

[frank scroll]

Nah cus I'm a good person

[halcyon saffron]

we'll see.

[warm schooner]

power corrupts

[frank scroll]

Like homelander is low-key messed up in the head

[frank scroll]

Nah not me

[lunar crypt]

wait so all feather is doing is using ads to get money off of us when using feathr client??

[dry matrix]

AI generated name with an AI generated privacy policy with AI generated software

[warm schooner]

that is what everyone says

[halcyon saffron]

well yeah, he got a lot of childhood trauma

[warm schooner]

and i would say too

[lunar crypt]

i dont even care if they profit of that

[warm schooner]

but we change

[storm raptor]

Then why are you here?

[frank scroll]

I feel guilty if I potentially hurt someone's feeling

[chilly grotto]

This gotta be bait

[warm schooner]

yes

[frank scroll]

Homelander just like kills ppl

[warm schooner]

but it was long back

[frank scroll]

Which isn't to say I wouldn't do that, but like I'd only kill bad people

[warm schooner]

feeling and power is different

[crimson tinsel]

Regardless. I don't understand the problem with showing ads on the platform.
Let me clarify before y'all twist my words like I know you will. The showing of ads as in having them cycle 1-2 ads every 1 hour that passes while the launcher is open.

[lunar crypt]

guy thinks he s a vigilante or smt

[chilly grotto]

Yer you never kissed me, never sang to me, never said ily to me.. never barked for me.. never meowed for me.. yo..you- you're..a TERRIBLE sobs and cries PERSON APPABTW

[frank scroll]

Well I don't like seeing ads at all and that's my problem with it 👍

[halcyon saffron]

well the deep aint so bad.

https://tenor.com/view/deep-no-cap-on-god-bro-deep-the-deep-no-cap-on-god-bro-no-cap-on-god-gif-282523267405522095

[frank scroll]

Ive done 4 out of those things

[warm schooner]

default minecraft launcher is actually more than enough l

like just install fabric mods in it bro

[frank scroll]

Not to you but like for someone else

[dry matrix]

Bro probably likes being spied on

[floral cypress]

feather should just admit it and move on

[chilly grotto]

!?!?!

[lunar crypt]

they spy on us?

[devout tusk]

saw the vid and honestly the thing i was most mad abt was the ai websites

[devout tusk]

true

[warm schooner]

lowkey

they are trying so hard to defend it like lmaoo

[frank scroll]

Well I've definitely kissed, said I love them, barked, and sang for multiple people

[crimson tinsel]

Okay, then I raise you this question.
If it were that a product either had to show 1 to 2 ads on their platform to keep it free to use. Or required a $30 purchase fed to use it. Which would you choose?

[frank scroll]

I just would not use the product?

[crimson tinsel]

Do you use Windows, Mac, or Linux? Just a question

[warm schooner]

cosmetics are actually a good enough source of income for them

[frank scroll]

Like genuinely that's the solution

I don't get any ads on my phone or PC ever

I don't pay for subscriptions

[warm schooner]

on youtube too?

[chilly grotto]

Okay but not for me.

[frank scroll]

YouTube revanced

[warm schooner]

i'm not defending feather but still asking

[warm schooner]

oh that

[chilly grotto]

I have never barked for someone

[frank scroll]

Booo

[frank scroll]

Well idk you just aren't pretty and funny and stuff

[devout tusk]

i thought it was a bad thing for them to do but like i just feel like it doesn’t matter imma be honest

[chilly grotto]

I am very funny

[chilly grotto]

She was the barker.

[frank scroll]

You're obviously not charming enough for me

[urban cove]

such a non issue, just watched the video and the guy is sounding like a karen

[frank scroll]

Crazy

[urban cove]

like bro even ***IF ***all those accusations are true I wouldn't even care

[chilly grotto]

Im obviously too much for you

You can't handle me

[devout tusk]

yeah like who is genuinely sympathising with the rich companies who have the ads

[frank scroll]

Whatever, I'm gonna go back to ricing my Linux or whatever

[crimson tinsel]

Okay. So like 70-80% of all freeware products are off the table for you. Makes sense.

Raise you another question. Do you understand how Ads work and why products and companies show them?

[frank scroll]

I do, and I do

[chilly grotto]

What happened boy? Can't spell right? Did I make you too nervous 🫦

[halcyon saffron]

relevant to how someone was calling feather a non-profit when it aint

[chilly grotto]

Okay I will never use that emoji again

[frank scroll]

Seriously what the hell

You think you're anything close to my level?

[crimson tinsel]

Explain it to me then, since I do not think you truly understand their purpose

[chilly grotto]

Oh YOU are beneath me appa

[urban cove]

that's what I thought, idk what that guys point is

[clever wave]

Why does my launcher take up so much ram

It uses more than the game itself

[magic plank]

dwagon

[urban cove]

how much ram do u use

[magic plank]

u can launch feather by modrinth btw

[crimson tinsel]

It's a memory leak.
Just close the launcher while the game is open. It doesn't kill the game

[clever wave]

Pls disable my ads @sullen ember

[magic plank]

U CAN LAUNCH FEATHER BY MODRINTH

[devout tusk]

if i was to switch idk what i would switch to bc i’m so bad with modding and stuff and using stuff like lunars is just difficult

[frank scroll]

Well ads are advertisements right? Trying to get you to buy products or change your mind about it. Companies show them to make money, simple as that

[magic plank]

@sullen ember do a cloak giveawya weekly pls

CLOAK GIVEAWAY

@sullen ember ADD MORE CLOAAKS BTW LUNAR IS BEATING USSSS!!!!

[chilly grotto]

😭😭😭

[halcyon saffron]

"us"

[echo flint]

They havent been sued because people don't know about it yet.
More has yet to be discovered by independent investigations.

What they have done has so far violated advertisement regulations, and although its not directly illegal by US law, they can get blacklisted from advertisement providers, and other companies that they may be partnered with

[crimson tinsel]

I'm impressed, you do understand their purpose.

Now what makes it inherently bad for you when a company shows an ad?

[urban cove]

🗿

featherling army!!!!!!

us loyal feather client users will never let slander of our glorious leader go unpunished

[frank scroll]

It's not content that I want to look at? It actively makes my experience worse because I don't want to hear about whatever product they're selling me and I won't buy it

[halcyon saffron]

all you gng

[clever wave]

🤣

[urban cove]

ngl once lunar bought badlion i just gave up on it

used to be a badlion client user

[worthy osprey]

Real

[halcyon saffron]

I liked blc. Less fps than lunar, but it was way more stable

[worthy osprey]

i swear it's just so sad to see badlion left behind

[urban cove]

it was more FPS for me

[worthy osprey]

it's give me 10x higher than lunar

[urban cove]

I tried lunar and hated the UI

[keen totem]

what about labymod

[halcyon saffron]

good for yall, lucky

[frank scroll]

Like I understand how important they are to the modern world and stuff but really it just bothers me

[worthy osprey]

also idk if i only one hating on 1.8 feather client

[crimson tinsel]

Okay, most people's opinion on ads. How do you expect companies to gain traction without running ads as such when there are already other competitors?

[urban cove]

also I wanted to use mods easily so feather ended up being a good one

[crimson tinsel]

How did I turn this into an interview lol

[frank scroll]

Idk, but it's okay!

[urban cove]

I hate how minecraft is now updating every nanosecond, the mods I use dont update that fast

all for a piss cube

that nobody cares about

[crimson tinsel]

Honestly this has been the most productive conversation I have had with anyone in the Minecraft community

[frank scroll]

Well id like to imagine word of mouth and genuine reviews would be enough, but I understand what you mean

[worthy osprey]

minecraft community is gettin missed up

[frank scroll]

It's true that sometimes honestly I probably only bought something because I did see an advertisement for it

But that doesn't particularly mean I want to see them

[fickle forum]

yoo dpes anyone here play pokemon goo?

[urban cove]

i stopped in 2016 no thanks gng

[halcyon saffron]

an example of word of mouth being Siracha sauce (at least in the usa) with them earning over a bil

[crimson tinsel]

True. And that's completely fine. I was just asking to understand more what your thoughts are to have clarification.

Thanks for the productive conversation

[vocal yarrow]

SLIME OUT YO FRIENDS

[visual ledge]

[frank scroll]

No problem, pleasure talking

[urban cove]

I literally never listen to ads it's like they're trying to brainwash you into consuming product

[visual ledge]

[urban cove]

anytime I have to buy something I look reviews online

[crimson tinsel]

That's. The point...

[frank scroll]

Indeed, I have a bottle in my fridge and haven't ever seen ads for them

[halcyon saffron]

I dont really like siracha. Maybe its just the packets I have that are disgusting

[urban cove]

im an enemy of the matrix

[humble mist]

who even cares that much about the ad fraud thing

like okay big companies lose money what's the big deal

[urban cove]

look at the video's comments nobody cares at all

[crimson tinsel]

I still don't get the entire "Spying" claims.

Everything spies on you now. There's actually a very interesting video on Windows 11 with experiments proving that just by having Windows 11 your data is being stolen

[halcyon saffron]

well if its real, it supposedly slightly ruins your performance too.

[humble mist]

I mean that's a small price to pay to take money from the rich if you ask me

[urban cove]

just have 32gb of ram

[crimson tinsel]

I work in cyber security. It's scary how much is being tracked

[paper notch]

it's just ads playing lol, if your pc struggles to play ads that's embarrassing

[steady solar]

Feather shills

[steady solar]

Such a stupid take

[halcyon saffron]

it would affect both latency(ping) and fps

[steady solar]

I should mine bitcoin on your pc since it can handle it

[urban cove]

feather glazers 😂

[halcyon saffron]

my pc could handle ads just fine, but latencys always an issue 🤷‍♂️

[frank scroll]

Yep it's a shame, as much as I try that's the only thing I think I truly can't avoid

[urban cove]

its just 500mb gng 🥀

[steady solar]

nobody knows what ur talking about man

[humble mist]

big dawg rich people losing money is always a net positive lol

[urban cove]

feather only takes 500 megabytes of ram

[crimson tinsel]

From a standpoint as a cyber security analyst. The easiest way to get rid of tracking is to not have any tech at all and even then you will still be tracked

[urban cove]

its literally not that much

[magic plank]

guys

is lunar better than feather fps wise

[steady solar]

Such a stupid take 😂 as if everyone who submits ads are multi billion dollar corporations

[urban cove]

not in my experience but its different for everyone based on hardwware

[steady solar]

But yeah lets just normalize fraud cuz you learned on tiktok that billionaire = bad

[paper notch]

literally if your on a website with ads it would use more resources than feather's launcher because of how awful chrome is

It's not that deep

[humble mist]

I have not seen many feather ads if any at all from corporations with under a billion in networth

[halcyon saffron]

I'll spend 1k on ads. Please use an ad blocker to make me lose money

[steady solar]

Difference is you can get an ad blocker on chrome. Can you get one for free on feather?

[magic plank]

fr

[urban cove]

its not fraud its just ads playing in the background brochacho 😭

[humble mist]

indeed
billionaires are bad

[magic plank]

most adblockeers dont really work properly m8

[steady solar]

its fraud, your just clueless

[humble mist]

there shouldn't even BE billionaires

[steady solar]

Then you are using the wrong adblocker

[urban cove]

every third page on the web you open does that

[magic plank]

its not check the law

[steady solar]

Did you check the law?

[magic plank]

like u must be stupid to think its fraud

[crimson tinsel]

I can tell you right now. No.
And that's because of one thing, Regardless what mods you have enabled on lunar, it loads Every. Single. One. Same thing with feather however lunar has hundreds of mods more that feather by default

[magic plank]

ye ik i did a fps test and feater gave so much more

[steady solar]

No point in arguing with a wall, you're clueless and I can't wait till this all blows up in Brendan's face and he just eventually pushes out an update to put you on a botnet

[paper notch]

You can just minimize the window and they'll pause????

[steady solar]

They don't

[magic plank]

BENNYBOO GIVE US PROOF PLEASE

[steady solar]

Do your own research

[magic plank]

GO LOOK AT THE US LAW

[urban cove]

me when im fighting in brendan's army as one of the featherbots:

[paper notch]

look at the post #📢┃announcements

[steady solar]

Try it out yourself

[humble mist]

by law it is probably fraud but the rich corporations lose more money so I'm all for it

[steady solar]

All he said was "I didnt do it and I was allowed"

[paper notch]

There's a video

In the post my guy

[steady solar]

Seeing as Tebex was able to do their own investigation and found him guilty says a lot

[magic plank]

LMAO U CANT PROVIDE EVIDENCE? IT IS NOT FRAUD BY THE WAY HOWEVER THEY WILL PROBABLY LOSER AD PARTNERSHIPS

[steady solar]

& I can't wait for others to drop him too

[crimson tinsel]

There is this easy thing called "Closing the launcher after the game client starts"

[urban cove]

good goy 🎉

[steady solar]

Brain = gone

[pulsar remnant]

is there a perspective mod built in the cilent??

[humble mist]

you act like this is such a big deal it's hilarious

[magic plank]

@steady solar go on then provide evidence its against the law

[urban cove]

just pull it out of the mud

[halcyon saffron]

that looks a lil stuck

[magic plank]

ur speechless

[steady solar]

go provide evidence it isn't?

[urban cove]

with your own hands

[paper notch]

also lmao in the official video they don't prove the claims wrong, pretty sure the entire point is that the ads keep playing while ur in game, which doesn't minimize the launcher

[steady solar]

ANyone with a brain knows its fraud

So many lies in brendan's statement

[main swan]

“You can’t park there” ahh

[humble mist]

who cares???

[magic plank]

u started this argument lmao

[humble mist]

like even if it is rich people are actively losing more money because of it

[crimson tinsel]

What makes it fraud.

[humble mist]

how is that not a net positive for the common person

[steady solar]

tiktok brain

[urban cove]

tbf even if it was i dont really care because i just like the client and dont want to change clients

[humble mist]

I don't even have tiktok dawg

people haven't liked the rich since the beginning of time

[steady solar]

I should rob you @humble mist since crime is legal in your eyes. Just doing my part

[humble mist]

oh yeah that would be bad

[urban cove]

even if brendan defrauded the entire US government i probably wouldnt care either

[paper notch]

agreed companies have huge ads budgets, they can take a little hit

[steady solar]

Wait

[magic plank]

lmfao

[humble mist]

but robbing the rich is fine

[steady solar]

Wait wait why did brendan contradict himself

[humble mist]

the rich don't deserve their money 99.999999999999999999% of the time

[magic plank]

wdym when?

[crimson tinsel]

Are you going to keep dodging my question. I'm asking you what makes it fraud. If you're going to continue to dodge my questions and not elaborate, you don't know what you're talking about

[halcyon saffron]

Ad fraud is any attempt to defraud digital advertising networks for financial gain. Scammers often use bots to carry out ad fraud, but not always – there are a number of methods that scammers can use to trick advertisers and ad networks into paying them.

[urban cove]

ngl i kind of agree with this guy because who the hell are yall calling rich

[halcyon saffron]

whether or not this makes it fraud, I dont know nor care

[steady solar]

Check #📸┃community-media

[crimson tinsel]

If you're going to continue to be argumentative and try to start arguments with people or state claims that you cannot back. You have no idea what you are talking about and have not done the proper research

[urban cove]

is rich like those people with jets and yatches and stuff

[paper notch]

The companies displaying the ads

[urban cove]

or just people that have money and dont struggle

[humble mist]

generally speaking the rich in my eyes are the rich ceos who rob millions from their workers every year

[urban cove]

then ur right 👍 screw em

[humble mist]

that's kinda what I'm getting at

[urban cove]

i find that the amount of effort you put into something should determine whether you are deserving of money or not

[echo flint]

That still doesn't make it right, even if you're being a little robin hood

[steady solar]

tiktok brains

They have no idea how the real world works

[urban cove]

if you simply inherit a gazillion dollars and live out of it, that aint right

[tropic dove]

who cares

[crimson tinsel]

I will put it this way. There are two kinds of ethical morals. There is a social ethical morals and there are company ethical morals

[subtle kayak]

@vocal yarrow did u watch the video

[humble mist]

right

[halcyon saffron]

I mean honestly, when it comes to ads, its just a variety of people. Its not always the rich, it could be a smaller business.

[vocal yarrow]

what video

[echo flint]

How do you think that the person who got that money worked for it? They would have had to devote their lives to what they were doing

[subtle kayak]

#📢┃announcements

Post

[vocal yarrow]

its the old one

same vid

[humble mist]

please help me understand how a CEO making millions a year while their workers scrape by ~$20/h is fair

[subtle kayak]

Did u read the post not video

[urban cove]

when they pass on, that does not matter

what would you say about someone who spends their entire lives working but doesnt make it?

[bronze canopy]

Sorry, my minecraft doesn't work, it still gives me an error, how to fix it, does anyone know??

[humble mist]

90% of people who are/were that rich in the first place either exploited workers or consumers
usually both

[urban cove]

what error also #1216079511741927454

[echo flint]

Average minimum wage in the US is around ~$8/h, People dream of 20 an hour bro

[steady solar]

POV: You just explained Brendan

[humble mist]

nobody actually gets paid 8 dollars an hour in the US fyi

[urban cove]

most ads I see are big companies but I get ur point

[humble mist]

the federal minimum wage is 7.5, most states have another 8 or so ontop of that

[echo flint]

20/h is fair then by your logic

[humble mist]

absolutely not fair

[crimson tinsel]

Are you willing to talk with me? Or are you going to keep avoiding me because you can't argue your claim against someone with more knowledge on the subject?

[halcyon saffron]

yeah, I feel like smaller companies generally try something like youtube, but it aint uncommon

[urban cove]

I used to

[echo flint]

Hm, whats your claim on the subject

[humble mist]

full time jobs in the US don't and can't pay federal minimum wage

[urban cove]

but that's because I live in the underworld (brazil)

[humble mist]

yeah that makes more sense

[bronze canopy]

Is someone writing in Polish here? Because I don't understand

[urban cove]

the US has so much opportunity

being a hobo in the US is better than being rich in brazil

[bronze canopy]

a

[steady solar]

What are you talking about

[solemn scroll]

Brend4n does NOT make anything close to a million 💀

[crimson tinsel]

My claim regarding the ads is that every company does need to send out their own advertisements and they're used to be able to gain a sustainable revenue to support that project.
I don't have a claim against the fraud claims because I don't even understand where they are coming from and I'm trying to get people's views so I can establish one.

[steady solar]

Explain again little guy

[humble mist]

I'm not even talking about brendan

[steady solar]

😂

[humble mist]

I'm talking about multimillion/billion dollar corporations

[prisma copper]

no sé a mí me gusta el pico

[solemn scroll]

bro literally qualifies for senior discount

[humble mist]

if you read what else I've been saying I've been talking about the advertisers
not feather

[pulsar remnant]

is there a perspective mod built in the cilent??

[solemn scroll]

I js saw that message

Mb

[halcyon saffron]

the fraud claims are coming from a random youtube video, and lunar client

[urban cove]

brendan makes a bajillion dollars he surpassed elon musk as the richest person alive long ago

[echo flint]

Right, so if advertisers pay money to get their ads shown to real people, they should be able to do that without having false impressions from their adsense

[steady solar]

and tebex (their old payment processor)

[humble mist]

all good

[urban cove]

i dont doubt that youtuber got paid by lunar to smear feather since they're losing users just throwing this out there (my opinion)

[steady solar]

Agreed, thats fraud

[tropic dove]

i havent seen a single ad on feather since like 4 months is that normal

[urban cove]

lmao me neither

[frigid wharf]

i didnt pay my taxes

[vocal yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/panchiko-laputa-deathmetal-gif-25729979

[echo flint]

Why are you putting a whole another client under the bus, aint nobody cares what a client says. All lunar said was that they don't support what feather was allegedly doing. They swaying to one side while staying relatively neutral

[steady solar]

Did you ever complain about lag or your network dying when using their client. Maybe brendan had to remove your ads

[halcyon saffron]

idk about how I feel about tebex, because all they said was they reviewed the findings. Not exactly did a lot of research on it

[tropic dove]

i alwasy close it after launching minecraft

[steady solar]

😭 literally, I love how people try shifting the blame to others as if Feather isn't doing the fraud.

[urban cove]

dont feather and lunar have a feud or sum

[steady solar]

BLAME the people doing fraud for doing fraud

[urban cove]

I dont remember

[echo flint]

And essential mod came from scraps that lunar, badlion, and pvplounge left behind. Talk about that huh?

[halcyon saffron]

Im not putting any blame to another client gng. I'm just telling them where the primary fraud claims are coming from. Lunar brought light to the video, and for like an entire day there were lunar fanboys flooding the server.

[humble mist]

realistically who is being negatively affected by this besides rich advertisers

[echo flint]

The primary fraud claims came from the youtube video only. Lunar only said that they didn't support it. The video blew up before lunar made a response

[urban cove]

I didnt see that lol that would have been fun to look at

[steady solar]

I was there the first day and it was not lunar fanboys. Most of the people complaining were people who did their own investigations like Microcontrollers. Who then later got censored and banned and had ALL their messages deleted from this server.

[urban cove]

🧢

[steady solar]

here comes rader talking about discord tos

[halcyon saffron]

lunar did NOT only say they didnt support it 😭

[steady solar]

wont tag you again big guy, I saw the warning

[slate helm]

Who then later got censored and banned
they got banned for using discord modifications, not because we wanted to censor them 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[subtle kayak]

Hey twin

[steady solar]

😂 like clockwork

[urban cove]

arent you like a feather user benny why are you complaining

[echo flint]

Um, "we have zero tolerance for fradulent or deceptive practices" they directly said that they didn't support it. They didnt add or take away from the claims made from the original video

[steady solar]

I switched between Lunar and Feather but not using feather anymore after the fraud.

[urban cove]

this screams "us = good boys, them = bad boys"

[echo flint]

What discord mods pal

[steady solar]

Or just "hey we're not doing fraud, dont associate us with them"

[halcyon saffron]

no, hes right. He was there, however if you look at messages, you'll see a lot of "use lunar", "move to lunar", or "lunars better" type messages. It was people with their own 'investigations', people saying it was true, and then people saying to use lunar

[steady solar]

Rader works for discord he enforces their rules for 3rd party modifications. Man of the law (except when it comes to defaming fraud)

[urban cove]

well that's something to consider

anyways who cares feather is simply the better client and I don't care about all the other stuff

[crimson tinsel]

So the Fraud claims have zero evidence to back them up?

[slate helm]

who cares bruh

[steady solar]

Oh true who cares about fraud. You're right

[daring relic]

They arent coming from Lunarclient at all

[slate helm]

???

[urban cove]

I still live in a third world country where I'm barely scraping by to live, why do I care if there's an ad playing in the background of my PC

that's the cold hard truth, it simply does not matter

[daring relic]

Video alr had 100k+ views before lunar did an statement

[halcyon saffron]

I don't know if they do or dont. I really just dont care, as I didnt watch the video. The video did however have 'evidence' which people are taking as the truth, so the only way to determine is to watch it

[steady solar]

true, you should start scamming people since thats what a lot of the feather shills think is ok 👍 make it out the mud bro

[crimson tinsel]

True. If the company is only showing them with their product open, whether it is in the background or not. Then that is fine.
And for clarification I do not mean minimized to System Tray for Windows users. Since that is saying the app is closed when it isn't

[halcyon saffron]

yes, and Im talking about after lunar made the statement.

[honest plume]

yeah and the response he made for/on the original video, I scanned it with 4 diff AI scanner for AI and 3 of them flagged them as potentially 100% AI and the 4th one as AI written with a couple of human tweeks

[rustic geode]

guys is the video true

[crimson tinsel]

What makes it fraud

Please quit dodging my question

[urban cove]

praise be 🙌

[daring relic]

[steady solar]

haha you shouldve seen his announcement from two days ago. He had an em dash in the message and then edited the message afterwards. Someone sent me a picture of the before and after

[charred cove]

Hey chat

[urban cove]

no the guy that made the video is actually a mossad agent 🇮🇱

[charred cove]

Type 1 if you missed me

[honest plume]

✌️😭

[keen totem]

oi

[slate helm]

chat is being cringe right now

[halcyon saffron]

hi

[steady solar]

idk probably the fact that hes scamming the people who pay for ads? nobody wants fake impressions and its a literal scam. Big corporation or not, doesn't matter. Not everyone who uses ads is a multi billion dollar corporation

[daring relic]

Proof?

[charred cove]

Yeah I have noticed smh

[steady solar]

& then just abusing their users to farm money

[keen totem]

still dragging this like 67😭

get over it

[charred cove]

#📢┃announcements

[urban cove]

it came to me in a dream

[slate helm]

like, all they can do is repeat what they heard without even questioning it

[daring relic]

Ahh nice hahah

[steady solar]

get over it 😂 feather translator shill.

[echo flint]

whats gonna be cringe is when I decompile the launcher exe and find the things you're hiding in the new update 😭

[urban cove]

😂

[charred cove]

Bro you sit hear everyday typing the same stuff

[keen totem]

what

[charred cove]

+and not reading the announcement

[daring relic]

U guys are not answering the questions we ask 👀

[steady solar]

Please stop talking, you told everyone in chat before that you have no idea what you're talking about. So stay out of the topic if you didn't do your own research.

[crimson tinsel]

Fake impressions from what precisely? Having advertisements running in the background?

[frank scroll]

See this immediately tells me that you have no clue what you're talking about

[urban cove]

read the #📢┃announcements

[charred cove]

Feather translators are goated

[charred cove]

Proof

[subtle kayak]

🇮🇱 I support feather!!!!🇮🇱

[shell fulcrum]

Why are you guys so mad at feather??

[daring relic]

wc.setbackgroundthrottling(false)

Do u see it over there

[urban cove]

does feather have portuguese translators

[echo flint]

yeah im lowk a special guy, but im still breaking the launcher open

[charred cove]

Probably yeah

[slate helm]

"iT wAs wrItTeN bY aI"

[urban cove]

good goy! 🎉

[halcyon saffron]

I like marvel rivals, how could you tell?

[crimson tinsel]

Oh hey. a Developer! Mind if I steer yall to a memory leak I found within the launcher?

[steady solar]

Sure, check #📸┃community-media @charred cove

[slate helm]

do you even know what that does 😂

[echo flint]

@frank scroll slide your claude model btw, I wanna see how it works

[subtle kayak]

Marvel rivals is actually my favorite game

[urban cove]

i didnt read the announcement

[daring relic]

Announcement wasnt written by ai lol, which kid did say that 😭 😭

[slate helm]

#📩┃create-ticket

[halcyon saffron]

I see why

[frank scroll]

You think I have enough money to pay for Claude ????

[slate helm]

this one #💬┃talk message

[crimson tinsel]

I made one and it got ignored than force closed due to inactivity

[urban cove]

no point in being another translator then

[subtle kayak]

What time are we hopping on re5

[crimson tinsel]

Its probably still archived here. Let me see if I can find it

[halcyon saffron]

whenever you want

[charred cove]

Saying im not that smart as everyone thinks ≠ that I have no idea about anything

[echo flint]

Oh sh wrong person, my fault

[charred cove]

Im still smart

[steady solar]

Ok so you're kept up with this whole situation?

[echo flint]

thought you were the ai plugin guy

[frank scroll]

Who 😭😭😭

[charred cove]

Idk If I missed something cause I have a life

Might be too employed

[heavy bear]

yo

[echo flint]

Nolan

[daring relic]

Which plugin is AI written

[rapid zealot]

chill yo

[steady solar]

You're a Helper for feather client man

[daring relic]

😂 😂

[frank scroll]

Yeah no clue who that is but that's okay

[main swan]

For anyone wondering, we got out. Had to use chains

[halcyon saffron]

censor that

[charred cove]

But If I read #📢┃announcements I see all anwsers I need

[echo flint]

feather server partner who uses claude to code ai plugins for his server

[subtle kayak]

Who did u lie to

[frank scroll]

Pluh

[crimson tinsel]

I love this @steady solar Guy. I ask him question. get a bland answer. Ask a follow up question asking for details and clarification. The Ghosted and ignored.
Is it because he cant back up the claim and answer my question? or just simply from ignoring? We will never know.

[urban cove]

im unemployed rn you just offended me 😢

[frank scroll]

Mwah

[halcyon saffron]

yall pulled with the chains??

[main swan]

Tied them to a tree and lifted the bucket, thus applying tension to the chain

[urban cove]

i just dont know why benny is complaining ts aint so deep bruh

[halcyon saffron]

oh yeah that makes sense

[charred cove]

So? Its like every evening when I got non to do I do helper stuff for a couple hours

[charred cove]

Its okay

[daring relic]

Just wanna know it. Who is actual the "ad provider" for FeatherClient ad's?

[urban cove]

this guy just joined the chat and already became bennys target im crying 😭

[crimson tinsel]

Hes an Ultracrepidarian

[subtle kayak]

????

[halcyon saffron]

Honestly yutas EVERYONES goat

[rapid zealot]

yutas a fraud syau

[steady solar]

Correct, those are fake impressions since the user isn't seeing the ads. Theres guidelines for stuff like this and its FRAUD. It's not some sort of technicality. Its LITERALLY what ad fraud is.

[charred cove]

He beat the allegations

[dry matrix]

feather be vibecoding with claude as well 😂

[urban cove]

hey guys we all know the only goat is naoya

[halcyon saffron]

Keep yutas name out of YO mouth

[urban cove]

and toji

[halcyon saffron]

how'd you know hes my 2nd favorite

[echo flint]

Yeah probably, I wouldn't put it past me

[shell fulcrum]

HI LAWYER

[dry matrix]

you can actually see

[rapid zealot]

gojo lowkey a fraud chat

[wispy crater]

Algum brasileiro?

[urban cove]

naoya is everyones favorite they just dont know it yet 🤣

[dry matrix]

https://x.com/i/status/2049485551468720433

汤姆 🇷🇪 (@tomlwsmc)

Feather client posted a response video and have Claude opened
They are not beating the vibe coded allegations

X · Apr 29, 2026, 1:46 PM

[charred cove]

https://tenor.com/view/job-jumpscare-job-application-job-meme-job-jumpscare-gif-5102454363566376023

@dry matrix

[steady solar]

"Claude, hide all the ad fraud and make no mistakes"

[wispy crater]

scary 🥀

[rapid zealot]

every developer uses claude now, ts aint new 😭🙏

[dry matrix]

oh i actually do have a job

[echo flint]

oh fuh no 😭

[urban cove]

@charred cove
how do I get image perms so I can post gifs like its an instagram reels comment section

[halcyon saffron]

naoya got top 10 in popularity a while back for a reason 💯

[river bone]

LOL

[charred cove]

So you spend all your free time on dc

[river bone]

😭😭😭

[urban cove]

hes actually number 1 but gege had to nerf his position

[subtle kayak]

I saw this tweet

[daring relic]

Why should we use the console to log refreshed ads? This wasn't the case before the update

[charred cove]

Level up

Or use #📸┃community-media

[main swan]

I remember when I first started staffing on Discord… nostalgic. I have fond memories, as well as not so fond memories. Right now there’s this specific feeling I have though thinking back. Like nostalgia but with the air of a campfire and sipping hot coco

[halcyon saffron]

gege always doin so much.

[urban cove]

eu

[rapid zealot]

why do they have literally every code editor known to mankind 😭

[dry matrix]

idk how u infer that, my last message was at 1AM for me, then I had to do actually important stuff and now it's 7PM for me when I engage in a conversation

[charred cove]

🥺🥺

[steady solar]

Hey, i responded, Any rebuttal? Did you look up what ad fraud is on google? Or were you just talking to talk

[frank scroll]

Multiple code editors for more coding per line of code

[dry matrix]

so that time was spent on sleeping -> working -> commute -> social interactions

[charred cove]

Why is their writing kinda fire

[daring relic]

?

[urban cove]

wait for it hes making an essay just for you gng

[charred cove]

K thanks for anwsering

[main swan]

Thanks! ❤️

[steady solar]

Probably gonna ask claude

[rapid zealot]

yeah then you remember all the slurs and being called unenployed 😞

[urban cove]

okay

[shell fulcrum]

@steady solar please stop threatening me in DMS and then deleting them. Our political views might be different but I want you to PLZ leave me alone

[charred cove]

Lock in

[main swan]

I actually don’t remember this happening to me 🤔

[urban cove]

im still level 3 its gonna take ages

[halcyon saffron]

hah unemployed

[steady solar]

😂 🧢

[charred cove]

!level

Wait

!levels

[rapid zealot]

u locked it away because it gave you ptsd

[charred cove]

Wait

?levels

[daring relic]

./rank noob

[echo flint]

Feather client is so sneaky, im on my vm and its trying to get me to install an update so I can't see the old version of the client from late 2025

[charred cove]

!ranks

!rank

[echo flint]

had to disable internet quick time g

[charred cove]

.rank

Okay bro

[steady solar]

figure it out man

[halcyon saffron]

feather should js give me like 20 levels for free. Typing is too much work

[daring relic]

Install it offline

[subtle kayak]

Me 2

[crimson tinsel]

You do understand. When an advertisement is being shown. For that period of time there needs to be at least One second where the advertisement is shown with more than 50% of its content. With two seconds minimum to be seen for a video ad to be considered a valid impression.

If the ads never cycle in the background. Its not a False Impression. Has there been proof if it cycles in the background? or is it only when the app is clicked again and brought back to the foreground?

[halcyon saffron]

that still aint getting champ back 😭

[urban cove]

you are right and me too

[subtle kayak]

:(

[crimson tinsel]

Sorry for the long response. Had to look into the MRC for a moment to ensure im providing clear information

[urban cove]

and whats this about vibe coding

[echo flint]

I did, but it won't let me open the client unless I am connected to the internet. Idk what I should do tbh. Might have to contact caleb for this one

[urban cove]

every single dev is vibe coding nowadays why are you complaining

[keen totem]

what even is vibe coding

[daring relic]

Crazy mmmm

[urban cove]

companies literally fire you if you dont vibe code

[urban cove]

using AI to code

[shell fulcrum]

Exactly how people like YOU get away with it…. Laugh in the face of one of your victims.

[halcyon saffron]

I'd vibe code if I had the vibes. Sadly I left them all behind with cece

[frank scroll]

See I don't vibe code because I like the suffering and immense pleasure from coding traditionslly

[keen totem]

ohh

[urban cove]

🤣

[rapid zealot]

W claude

[daring relic]

Gemini 3.1 Pro is goated too

[dry matrix]

anthropic actually sucks as a company morally

[charred cove]

Just let the devs Code in peace bro💔

[frank scroll]

I like crying because my code doesn't work, and i like feeling like god himself using my hands to create when it does work

[drifting venture]

This server sucks, I'm going to lunar

[urban cove]

its just not effective gng 💔 companies demand it

[charred cove]

I think they know what they are doing

[drifting venture]

Byebye feather

[charred cove]

🙏

[rapid zealot]

yeah screw morals, we got claude mythos ❤️💯

[frank scroll]

I don't work for any tech companies

[drifting venture]

Lunar is better

[dry matrix]

we? you mean the government?

[rapid zealot]

WE

[craggy silo]

minecraft launcher

[charred cove]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[craggy silo]

both

[dry matrix]

bro's that discord GC who breached the access to it

[urban cove]

sx PLEASE let me post gifs I have the perfect gif for that guy

[charred cove]

Feel free to use whatever tho

I reccomend feather

[frank scroll]

I recommend not playing Minecraft or something

[craggy silo]

i suggest Minecraft launcher

[covert linden]

both got pros and cons

[rapid zealot]

no sonion WE as a team have claude mythos to keep the bad guys out, mythos is moving crazy

[frank scroll]

Learn how to solder, return to tradition

[charred cove]

Lets play brawl stars

[subtle kayak]

Why

[urban cove]

every person needs to learn how to build a house with their own hands

[subtle kayak]

I like Minecraft

[urban cove]

then nobody would go homeless

[rapid zealot]

Yeah you're banned from gaming until you make a pc entirely from scratch

[urban cove]

im such a genius

[dry matrix]

1 month and it's gg for software engineers

[craggy silo]

noice but not practical

[halcyon saffron]

yes, lets play some cod or fifa

[frank scroll]

Somehow you picked 2 games that are worse

[halcyon saffron]

Wwe is an option too

[charred cove]

Or roblox

[chilly grotto]

hi chat

[charred cove]

Hey

[rapid zealot]

thats why cloud engineering is better

[subtle kayak]

Go away

[halcyon saffron]

roblox simulators 💯

[chilly grotto]

hyd?

[charred cove]

Good wbu

[frank scroll]

Lmaooo

[chilly grotto]

no

[urban cove]

just play roblox bedwars instead

[crimson tinsel]

@steady solar Any response? If you would like I can link and quote the MRC and IAB directly about it.

Before you say anything. Yes, if they count new impressions while minimized. It IS considered a False Impression. As well as fetching and rendering a New ad.
Has there been proof of this actually happening? Or are we working off of assumptions?

[chilly grotto]

pretty good too!! ;3

[charred cove]

Im glad to hear that.

[halcyon saffron]

never touchin that. I'd rather beat a bandit 24/7

[steady solar]

Thank you for proving my point! A valid impression requires the ad to actually be seen. If the screen is locked and the user sees nothing (like in Caleb's video), then zero percent of the ad is visible to any human. That fails every viewability standard you just cited, including your own.

Go look at how Lunar Client or any other desktop app handles ads inside of their launcher and notice how Feather is constantly reloading the ad in the background. Since Brendan removed the dev tools after being tipped off. You can't view the verbose debug msg that tells you when the ad was filled anymore.

[steady solar]

Hi! yes I responded

[charred cove]

Where your levels at

[urban cove]

yeah it sucks bad

[chilly grotto]

@fossil gate, this one's a new account :p

[main swan]

Love you too, random person on the internet

[urban cove]

but interestingly enough bedrock bedwars is just as bad

[charred cove]

Ohhh

Ic

[main swan]

Oh that’s Ultranz

[subtle kayak]

L

[main swan]

Name change threw me off @halcyon saffron

[chilly grotto]

no champ? L

[rapid zealot]

ofc ur on linux, W stereotype. You would never see a windows user doing ts

[halcyon saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-hitori-gotoh-sleep-gif-8744325204798542800

[subtle kayak]

Still better then anything u got rn

[violet trout]

i love ads

[steady solar]

I love ad fraud

[main swan]

Fr

[violet trout]

same

[chilly grotto]

cry cry

[frank scroll]

I hate ads, we should have a child and ask what they think

[violet trout]

im sure owner can relate

[charred cove]

I love feather standalone

No ads!

[chilly grotto]

WHAT?

[subtle kayak]

I LOVE ADS

[halcyon saffron]

lemme watch

[subtle kayak]

ME PLEASE ME PLEASE

[crimson tinsel]

Where has that been shown that the launcher is Refreshing them while the entire launcher application is Out of focus? How do we know it isn't being refreshed and refreshed when you make the application back in focus?

[subtle kayak]

Weirdo

[halcyon saffron]

says you 😭 🙏

[chilly grotto]

?

[tropic dove]

honestly, no. even though feather is doing ad fraud. on lunar i get 140 fps, guess how much in feahter? 700 fps. same mods. same settings.

[subtle kayak]

How am I weird

[urban cove]

💀

[violet trout]

id watch them

[charred cove]

#📢┃announcements

[halcyon saffron]

look at yo messages then come back to me

[sharp needle]

i ddos 10.0.0.234 rn say bye bye

[urban cove]

bro got sent to the shadow realm

[rapid zealot]

Yep, FPS fraud! Nice

[steady solar]

Hi! Go try it yourself rn and go compare it to lunar client just like brendan said :). Notice how some of the ads on feather are mid-roll and dont start instantly when you tab back into the window?

[tropic dove]

its not convincing enoug

[subtle kayak]

I see nothing wrong with them

[halcyon saffron]

he wasnt wrong tho

[charred cove]

Okay whats missing

[urban cove]

🤨

[halcyon saffron]

I wonder if a random will be better at re5.

[rapid zealot]

literally any proof at all

[steady solar]

😭

[urban cove]

did mufaro actually get ddosed

[charred cove]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-memes-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-yuta-jjk-gif-7576830720291615984

[dry matrix]

whatever u wanna do vro

[limpid rain]

Huh

[charred cove]

Okay bye chat

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-out-im-out-gruntgifs-hazmatman-gif-5108763462396226438

[urban cove]

what level do u unlock gifs

tell me first before you go

🥷

[subtle kayak]

No pls

[chilly grotto]

!leveling

[untold minnow]

Level Rewards <a:PepeDev:1152425692412248104>

If you are caught spamming or abusing, your levels may be reset.

Level Rewards:
Level 5: Reaction perms in community channels
Level 10: Streaming perms & Nickname perms
Level 15: Embed perms
Level 20: Bypass Slow Mode
Level 30: Entered into weekly points giveaway (if verified) & @Champ
Level 40: 1500 points
Level 50: 1750 points

[rapid zealot]

buddy gonna hit you with 3 kb/s of data! hes harmful! 🥹💔

[urban cove]

thanks

[subtle kayak]

Give me like 20ish minutes I'll get on actually if u wanna

[cold socket]

how long does the discord cloak usually take to come?

[untold minnow]

Please refer yourself to #💸┃redeem-cloak for instructions on redeeming the Discord cloak

[charred cove]

15

[halcyon saffron]

ight

[charred cove]

I think

[urban cove]

careful or hes gonna HACK you too!!!!!!!!!

[urban cove]

thanks

[steady solar]

let me know when you've done this @crimson tinsel, & if you plan on not trying it out then just stop talking cuz you're just uninformed.

[crimson tinsel]

Gladly. Give me a few moments to go even further and have Wireshark watch ALL traffic coming from the app.

[urban cove]

you two are like jojos bizarre adventure stand users and chatGPT and claude are your stands

[rapid zealot]

dude actually just has every programming related buzzword he could find in his status 😭

[steady solar]

Great, let me know how it goes

[urban cove]

yep

legendary battle going on out here guys

battle of the cornballs

[main swan]

IM SORRY. I don’t look at peoples profiles every time for every single person I see in chat

[sharp needle]

pinging rn

[halcyon saffron]

I'll change my pfp and name tomorrow. We'll see then

[subtle kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/hmph-hmph-anime-tsundere-gif-25758864

[vocal yarrow]

this is me

:3

[median storm]

YO WHY WE RUNNING BLOAT CITY OVER HERE

[rapid zealot]

but like why do allat to ddoss a vm? 😭💔

[urban cove]

i make notes under every persons profile so i know whether or not i talked to them before or not

[median storm]

KDE PLASMA IS ACTUALLY SO BAD BRO ANYTHING IS BETTER AS A DE MAN

[sharp needle]

sudo ddos | sudo osint

[main swan]

I like your username and pfp btw

[sharp needle]

sudo csint

[rapid zealot]

balright

[urban cove]

you know ur sharingans

[halcyon saffron]

Thank you. I shall change it now

[main swan]

Wait is it pronounced “Stell” or “Stell-uh” @halcyon saffron

[median storm]

sudo -rm -rf

[subtle kayak]

Me 2

[sharp needle]

logan freeman

[halcyon saffron]

I think 1?

[rapid zealot]

u forgot the part that makes that dangerous

[vocal yarrow]

stell EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[main swan]

Okay nice. If it was pronounced “Stella” I’m not sure I would’ve liked it as much

[urban cove]

how did you know my government name?????

[sharp needle]

it help the system u remove the french language with it

[median storm]

/* sorry

[halcyon saffron]

stellas a good name

[main swan]

I didn’t say it wasn’t

[urban cove]

i have to cook now goddamn it

[rapid zealot]

lowkey isnt

[halcyon saffron]

just had to clarify

[urban cove]

im so tired but im so hungry i havent eaten in like 2 days

[halcyon saffron]

talkin js to talk huh

[urban cove]

living like asmongold but without the food rn

[fickle lily]

Do you really want to be forced to consequently use an N4100 as a biproduct of it being an iGPU who cannot even fathom the concept of running old relatively graphic intensive games (aka it runs Black Ops 1 worse than the 360)?

[subtle kayak]

My names are better

[subtle kayak]

GO AWAY PINK NAME

[sharp needle]

are u a snowy cat

[main swan]

Nah Stella is pretty good. Idk if I’ve know anyone with that name tbh. I know it’s not uncommon though.
For discord usernames though idk I like “Stell” pronunciation better. At least right now in this instance.

[subtle kayak]

Yes

[fickle lily]

Paw coloured*

[indigo remnant]

Yo can someone tell me if this controversy is smt i should worry about or can i just keep playing normaly

[urban cove]

how do I see the XP

[sharp needle]

stella is a mod for skyblock

[main swan]

I knew a Bella once though

[fickle lily]

It keeps reminding me of Amityville for some reason.

[main swan]

When I was in like grade 3

[halcyon saffron]

No

[subtle kayak]

Your a twink now

[halcyon saffron]

No.

[subtle kayak]

Yes

[sharp needle]

whats a twink

[chilly grotto]

hell no 😭

[steady marten]

dude

brendens video is so weak LMAO

did anyone actually believe that?

[halcyon saffron]

I did too, and it was in like I think 5th grade?

[fickle lily]

(Also I love the name Marina for some reason, but that's unrelated, and too many people involved in bands I listen to are named Oleksandr/Oleksandra, but that's also unrelated)

[dry matrix]

no, only staff members

[steady marten]

so funny dude

its so obvious hes doing massive damage control

[steady solar]

nobody but shills

[subtle kayak]

Yes they are

[steady marten]

after brutally mining his users pc's for the last 3 years

[subtle kayak]

Be jealous

[steady marten]

i wonder how many bitcoins hes gotten from my pc

[runic sonnet]

Yo i was one of the early access people to buy feather client where has my feather cape gone?

[indigo timber]

yo guys

[viral falcon]

0

[chilly grotto]

is it 3 years? i thought it was since when ads were added

[indigo timber]

should i delete feather ive had this since it was paid

[viral falcon]

U have a higher chance of being struck by lightning

[steady marten]

who knows how long they have secretlly been doing stuff to our pc

we only know about the ads

imagine what we dont know lmao

[indigo timber]

the performance boost was to hide the bitcoin mining

[steady marten]

did any staff members comment on the video?

i mean that was such a pathetic attempt at damage control

Rader any comment?

or Kaimson

[indigo timber]

how do i delete all feather files

from my pc

[fickle lily]

@frank scroll Flacapella.

[steady marten]

im thinking about doing a factory reset

to get rid of everything

which sucks cause ive used feather since it was pvp lounge client lmao

[indigo timber]

i was like

4 days away from getting enough points for a cape

[steady marten]

damn tough timing

[charred cove]

But?

[steady marten]

on the bright side he probably made enough money off farming ads off you to buy 100 cloaks 😭

[charred cove]

#📢┃announcements

[indigo timber]

buttt

[charred cove]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-memes-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-yuta-jjk-gif-7576830720291615984

[steady marten]

i watched it?

[halcyon saffron]

https://klipy.com/gifs/venti-genshin-impact-venti-7--k01KQD5FB16ZM7T9CPFFMXJ3S2R

[indigo timber]

you know buttttt

[steady marten]

its a pathetic attempt at damage control?

[fickle lily]

Say "Damn, tough crowd." next time.

[steady marten]

do you expect me to believe that after i saw the code for myself

in calebs video

[indigo timber]

even fake feather clients didnt do this

lmao

[steady marten]

Rader

I saw you typing, care to elaborate

[subtle kayak]

Yea

[steady solar]

very much

[steady marten]

id love to get a professional developers opinion on this

[kindred goblet]

i am black

[rapid zealot]

yeah those instead of scamming ad providers, actually just ratted your PC

[steady marten]

when its so obvious to me who is not a professional developer

[halcyon saffron]

thank you. We needed to know this

[slate helm]

it's not even worth it, you'll just ignore everything we will say

[charred cove]

^^

[steady marten]

i mean if you dont blatantly lie to me i wont

[charred cove]

Truth nuke

[undone pecan]

so the whole ‘official statement’ is calling everyone schizophrenics

[steady marten]

but tahts the route you guys want to go "truth nuke"

[slate helm]

then #📢┃announcements

[fickle lily]

I can't be in more than one person's computer at a time, I don't have a cloning machine.

[kindred goblet]

np now you will no longer see me

[indigo timber]

i mean atleast they ratted it normally

[subtle kayak]

So yall dont have anything to say LMAO

[steady marten]

ah so you are going with the blatant lie then

got it!

[charred cove]

Because everything was said in announcements ?

[steady marten]

TRUTH NUKE!

[slate helm]

can't wait to see how those are lies

[indigo timber]

do you use feather client

[steady marten]

yo what was calebs video then?

[halcyon saffron]

I did like oppenheimer, yes

[steady marten]

just lies or what

[slate helm]

read #📢┃announcements

[dry matrix]

truth nuke was when they said overwolf ads was lunar's partnership and to look where the money goes, but it's not truth nuke when feather used tebex which is an overwolf product as well

[indigo timber]

nah you were just dreaming

[steady marten]

Dont lie

[indigo timber]

like lmao

[slate helm]

why would i 😂

[steady marten]

you lie as easy as you breath lmao

[subtle kayak]

And none of it is true

[slate helm]

source?

[indigo timber]

to protect the server your a dev in?

[steady marten]

you spamming announcements

[steady solar]

Rader you had no idea who was the launcher dev, you have no idea whats going on.

[dry matrix]

dw bro was exposed lying several times for stealing code from mods it's nothing new

[slate helm]

?????????????

[charred cove]

Calebs vid was a lie!

[steady marten]

its cool tho some of us have morals

[charred cove]

What a good argument

Wow

[rapid zealot]

I mean bro, brendans response was literally "We didnt do it, trust us"

[steady solar]

😂

[indigo timber]

i mean guys

[charred cove]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-memes-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-yuta-jjk-gif-7576830720291615984

[steady marten]

HAHAHAHA its cool bro im sure they will promote you to mod soon enough keep up the good work dog

[indigo timber]

he didnt do it i did

[slate helm]

caleb's video was "they are doing this, trust me"

[steady solar]

😂

[steady marten]

yo rader

[charred cove]

Been using this image a lil too much lately

[indigo timber]

he had proof to back it up lmao

[steady solar]

I saw lots and lots of proof in that video actually.

[dry matrix]

"guys we verified oursevles we are not doing anything wrong", meanwhile a few indepedant companies that verified it on their own and said it's legit.

[steady marten]

why do you have no morals and are cool wtih fraud

[slate helm]

"proof" 😂

[rapid zealot]

he actually showed proof unlike a certain someone

[slate helm]

didn't see any

[steady marten]

as a developer - i wonder what replay mod discord would think of this

[idle bane]

the get request;

[indigo timber]

on EVERYTHING THIS IS RAGEBAIT

[charred cove]

Im doing it for the love of the game

[halcyon saffron]

jane juliet solos

[undone pecan]

wht isn’t a lie there though?
the ads DO refresh in the background and the client does disable background throttling (for the ads to work while the client is minimised), which is harmful for resources on an electron app. the statement comes and shows a different dev build of feather where that is not the case. are they claiming caleb was using a modified feather client to bash on y’all?

[subtle kayak]

You might need glasses

[slate helm]

nothing

[dry matrix]

i wonder what sodium mod dev would think of this

[steady marten]

word?

[dry matrix]

😂

[steady marten]

cool let me make a ticket then and see if they really think its nothing

that their moderator is defrauding thousands of people

[dry matrix]

ask them if they know about any stolen code by feather

[rapid zealot]

Plus tebex themselves have literally said they did their own investigation and found it to be true

[steady marten]

im sure rader tries to hide it

kid has no morals

[idle bane]

but wait guys why aren’t we defending the multi million dollar company 🥺🥺🥺🥺

[steady marten]

because it affects us lmao

[dry matrix]

well notyhing new

it was exposed so many times already

[idle bane]

yes ik dawg

[slate helm]

pov you don't know what setBackgroundThrottling does

[steady solar]

😂

[dry matrix]

recently the original guys from the drama came back and brought it back

lmfaoo

[gusty marlin]

hi guys my name is tharn and I have absolutely no business in this argument

[undone pecan]

how convenient that on the ‘official statement video’ we have console logs that tell us ads aren’t refreshing anymore

[dry matrix]

zero shame

[steady marten]

pov YOU dont know what it does