Polaris Palooza

[proper junco]

no update = surprise release?

[coral rover]

Haven't you learned anything from the BMM...

[fierce arrow]

Yes!

[fierce arrow]

BMM bad.

[patent galleon]

[mossy yoke]

they never mad surprise release? just shell i get hopium or not!

[somber pivot]

IS HEEEEERRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_yinEGaM5o

[sharp raven]

WE DID IT BOYS

POOOLLARIS CONFIRMED

IM AM SO HAPPY

WOOOOO

FINALLY

THE BEAUTY

YOU WERE RIGHT

[sharp raven]

IT DOES MEAN THAT

WOOO

[proper junco]

Oh my god

[patent galleon]

Okay okay it's happening

Off the hopium and onto the hypeium

[proper junco]

Imma

Deear fuken god

Polaris my beloved

[blazing fiber]

its happening

[patent galleon]

Tempering expectations it might be a ship tour and it's not flyable yet.

[blazing fiber]

no stop

its a release

[patent galleon]

I want to believe

Okay ship tour is the Idris.

[blazing fiber]

its finally your time be excited

[blazing fiber]

yeah sadly but hopefully i get the polaris as a loaner till they let me fly the idris

[patent galleon]

Flyby is RSI Polaris... Not sure if that's a good sign or not.

[sharp raven]

WOOOO POALRIS

[sharp raven]

Oh no...

Wait you're right and now im scared

[patent galleon]

On one hand IT FLIES BABY! On the other, it being flyby but not on tour might mean interior isn't ready.

[sharp raven]

WAIT NO GOOD NEWS

RSI IS IN THE FIRST DAY

[somber pivot]

Nah

It's just a fly by

Im sad

[blazing fiber]

its a great sign its not just a fly by

[somber pivot]

It's the famous black screen of CIG

No interior

No ship for us

No fun

And a lot of tears

[blazing fiber]

wow

[proper junco]

I will pad ram that Polaris with my Loaner HH from my polaris pledge if it isn't flyable out of spite

[fierce arrow]

POLARIS ILW!!!

[devout terrace]

polaris being added tomorrow

[rigid brook]

Lol watch it be ultimate blue ball, it’s just a fly by

[sharp raven]

It is, the cockpit is blacked out

[clear stag]

Based I love you

Is it just me or are the turrets kinda small

[patent galleon]

100% a Cutter

[clear stag]

Also no more missile turrets

[patent galleon]

Those are normally pretty small, would be hard to see them.

[clear stag]

Okay good I’m just old

[fierce arrow]

Let’s see who can break into it first.

Group 1 rams the Polaris hangar at full speed and tries to survive.
Group 2 rams the Polaris garage at full speed and tries to survive.
Group 3 tries to glitch into the bridge and turrets.

[clear stag]

Oh shit I love you thank you

[patent galleon]

A POLARIS!

[rigid brook]

lol watch it be a Polaris M, extra 200 bucks for additional turrets

[proper junco]

Turrets wont sell me that

Maybe s11 torps or a bigger hangar

[rigid brook]

Maybe stealth torps

[sharp raven]

OMG

YEAHHH

POLARIS BUFF GOES HARD

[frank lily]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeWlzaHI2NXBuanlmNnZxZDc1Y211azRkMTl4ZnJjaGZzcXkxeHhtMSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/l46C9f9DLZv9Ymaf6/giphy.gif

CMON BABEEEEEE.......

[patent galleon]

Wasn't the turret slot itself size 4 rather than the weapons.
Turret sizes are kind of inconsistent as to what the turrets actually mount.

[wintry gale]

Anyone got an estimate on the price?

[warped monolith]

I bet under 950

[warped monolith]

Sorry
I saw on twitter

[rigid brook]

I bet exactly 950

[fierce arrow]

1K.

[sharp raven]

Nah, bs

Crossing my fingers for the Polaris to go up to 950 AFTER ilw

I want to save a bunch of money

And then if it does go to 950, I might buy an Idris after I have too much fun with the polaris

[blazing fiber]

Polaris now hull limited at 1001 dollaroos

[rigid brook]

hull limited at 950 lets go

[fierce arrow]

Idris is a worse Polaris. Why?

[blazing fiber]

But 101 makes it auto lti

[blazing fiber]

I mean they’re different ships

[sharp raven]

That is true

But everything in it is bigger

Bigger medbay, brig, armory, hangar, cargo deck, pds, etc.

Im still not completely certain, and I'll still be keeping my Polaris for a while anyways

For the turret's size, it just doesn't seem likely. Comparing it to the other turrets on the ship, a quad size 3 for that size of a turret seems too small

EWWW

maybe thats just a model glitch

However, the Polaris wasn't really ever made to fight any big ships head on

Its more of a hit and run type vehicle

The multiple (hoping not s2s)

Are best for destroying incoming fighters

while the torps deal with anything bigger

I don't think they will be, atleast at bigger sizes

[mossy yoke]

since the "balancing" part of this game is nowhere they can change everything anytime... sadly, its annoying buying ship with big guns getting small, but it always can happen...

me2

[patent galleon]

Best of both worlds would be to have some nice bespoke attachments for the turrets to let you mount 2 S4s or 4 S2s.

[rigid brook]

i mean if we riot enough, bullying corporations is the new meta

[mossy yoke]

i disagree, this is against solo player... ;-D

as AI is getting more and more a thing, they need rights to! so well, they will help riot all the way up

[mossy yoke]

maybe, in the big picture, of some, its not intended to be a solo ship

depends what AI is for you, ;-D

but in the end, some ppl out there will solo all and anything, because they can, dosent matter if its inteded or not, they do it all the time in EVE, the will here aswell

would be great, if its directly supported by the devs, it should be clear to everyone that this is a desired style of play

[sharp raven]

Again, its not a solo ship, you cant even launch the torpedoes solo

[mossy yoke]

right now, or at finished game? are npcs unable to handel that task?

[sharp raven]

Right now, but thats not solo anymore, you have a crew

And even then, AI wont be anywhere near as good as players

[mossy yoke]

ah okay, i am fine toatly fine with npc crew, i in therms of solo talk about one game, one pc, one human

[sharp raven]

Ai isn't coming any time soon

[mossy yoke]

sure, i hear taht all the time, but that turly deppends on player skill...
well i dont know how hard it will be for one to push launch torpedo...

i am more worried of, that those sub stations willbe boring for human players...

[sharp raven]

Engineers will be able to run and do that task, its on the same level and wouldn't be hard to do, then they can go back and egineer.

Lucky for me, I've got a buddy with a steam deck and he can push that button while in a turret or even flying

[mossy yoke]

i know all that, in the last q&a they confimed that something small as a idris is doable with npc crew and daly tasks

thats all i want, to do big events and and ill group up with lots of captial players full of npc crew, to have those big imersive cinematic screend space battles...

i am not interessted in some 1 vs 1 javalin battels, which will feel like battlefield on a spaceship...

[sharp raven]

An idris? A 30+ crew idris? Thats going to cost you 10 million a minute to run

Exactly

AI crew for things like an idris I think should like at most be around 6

An idris is extremely hard to crew, but if all of the crew is AI, whats the point?

Its not even fun anymore, you cant communicate with your team, aim at specific targets, hell you cant even launch fighters from the hangar bay

[mossy yoke]

we will see, nobody knows anyway, just all guessing

maybe its expensiv as hell, maybe not

if i have money for the idris ill handel the rest aswell

[mossy yoke]

i am not sure if you spot me in the right place, i bet the biggest and most fun will be, having 2-4 friends on one cap ship, doing things togehter

scaling up to 12+ on a javelin

that said, puting humans on turrets is allready boring in a redeemer or constellation...

[sharp raven]

It is?

[mossy yoke]

so if the sub terminals are of interest ok

[sharp raven]

Since when?

[mossy yoke]

well dont know how long your willing to do turret dutyy?

[sharp raven]

I've done hammerhead crews for 12 hours+ at a time, and SO many people enjoy crewing turrets

[mossy yoke]

good then how often did you do that, how long till the party started?

[sharp raven]

? 12 hours?

[mossy yoke]

after 1 min all have bin at place... okay wow

[sharp raven]

It maybe took an hour to get the crew to meet up at a station

[mossy yoke]

battled other crews?

or what are you hunting down right now 12 hours?

[sharp raven]

I dont understand what you're saying.

We fought idrises, bounties, beacons, etc.

[mossy yoke]

once a week, or how often does your corp play SC?

in this scale?

[sharp raven]

HH crew about once a week, sure.

[mossy yoke]

hm sounds cool, well my mates are not so addicted to SC then me maybe thats the thing about, others telling me its boring, but doing 12 hours turret, is for me i think aswell maeh

but, i never played SC that long, i never will, 5 kids going to kick my ass off the PC ... all day long

but never mind, why do you fear, that Multicrew playstyle is dieing if soloplay can be a alternative?

would that not tell, that solo is more seeked as playstyle?

i dont understand, why there is no room for both playstyls side by side, other games, allready lack Players!

other games fill Human with Bots....

what the hell is the problem here?

my RL will never allow me to play 12 hours... maybe 5 on a good weekend, so that forces me to play in my short time more effectivly what i want, and thats big ships so ill fight for it ;-D

i will join multicrew events if i can, i bet it will be 3 times a year at best... so give me more options, it will not hurt any hardcore, no big RL player base in any way...

[halcyon estuary]

There is a fear that bots will be the meta vs. recruiting human crew

[mossy yoke]

yeah okay, so you take me my options, because you fear something that may never happen, or will happen anyway

and then after what, lets say there will never ever be Hugh "playerbase" in SC... if then there are not Bots... the Multicrew is even more dead, because not playable at all...

is that better?

[rigid brook]

Acting like ai will ever be better then human

They barely function now and you expect them to firefight, take relays from one part of ship to another, repair components, get material from storage to go repair other stuff, be able to open doors that get jammed and know how to navigate a ship when power is out, know how to navigate around bugs

Lol y’all funny

[mossy yoke]

well, there will be PVE, right?

so will a fully crewd idris just be OP and kill any NPC out there, this is then what big fun=?

npcs will only win if they outnumber you?

if they are that bad, whats the point of PVE?

or is this a only pVP game?

[rigid brook]

I’m just saying y’all putting to much hope on ai in a fight against humans

[mossy yoke]

yeah then PVE is dead allready okay

[rigid brook]

A player crew javelin will beat a 1 pilot and ai crew javelin 100% of the time

It’s a multiplayer game if you don’t have friends go join a big org and make some friends

If you want to play solo, play solo-able ship

[mossy yoke]

hm, sounds strange to me, so all your player are ACEs in this game? no skill requirement ?

ah oh no, i get it, ill never get into this cool "multicrew" thing

i forgot ill need to be a elite player, to even be consideret part of such, another good point, for solo, to not put all of this behind a skill wall by major corps

[rigid brook]

But if you want the big ship gameplay don’t expect to beat a fully player crew ship in your ai crew ship, just have fun killing other ai crew ships

[mossy yoke]

i dont i never said that i even want to play PVP

i am way more addicted to PVE

[rigid brook]

Okay then what’s the problem, ai crews will function enough for pve just lack in pvp

[mossy yoke]

i dont know what the problem is, maybe that all folks in their head think, i want to be PVP god in an idris... i really dont know, i never said that

i said i want to do daily tasks and bigger pve events... and some are very agger about that...

[rigid brook]

100%, player pilot ship with npc crew will be better then full npc crew aka pve, pvp is most likely where ai crews will start to lack

Cig will most likely make solos be able to use their big ships in pve but 100% won’t be pvp gods with ai crews

[mossy yoke]

as long as they are not completly useless, and i have atleast some feeling of my commands helped change the ty of war... as long as the pay of the task, covers i big pice of the cost running it

i am totaly fine

just dont tell me, that thing needs 6 ppl, go away... i am fine, i can read i see that number... solo just tells no toher human, i am fine with the need of crew, i am fine with the lack of PVP ladder competitve play

i dont need that

i mean did some of you played "Executive Assault 2" their it works aswell

[halcyon estuary]

I was answering your question in an attempt to prevent you from shouting into a repetitive void.

For example, in the Irdis Group Channel:
#1118050313442709535 message

[rigid brook]

That will be a lot of credits to fill 12 javelins with npc crews

As cig has stated it will be expensive

Well atleast javelins will only be useful in space as they can’t enter planets atmosphere and can barely fly in moons gravity

Luckily idris can be bullied by a lot of stuff

[mossy yoke]

that can be solved differently

eco

crimestate npc faction military will hunt you

on the other hand

in eve 20 player gank a cap solo player

dont see big difference if i get ganked by 20 ions or 20 idrises...

why, the solo loses anyway or do you see chances 20 fighter against a cap, like state of game and MM right now? i bet the 20 fighter win against full crew cap

[rigid brook]

I hope Polaris is good and didn’t get hit hard with the nerf stick

We’ll definitely find out a lot at fleet week

[torpid iron]

Polaris best daily driver.

[dim narwhal]

@rigid brook the polaris will no matter what be good due to those torpedoes and fill its intended role, it just won't be the idris replacement like some people wanted. But it's role it'll still be very good in which is a ship destroyer and hunter killer

[opaque rain]

idris is much more suited to be the flagship of a bigger fleet, whereas polaris is better for smaller fleets where the fleet is just big enough that you need a capital ship

if you have 3 gladius pilots and a bunch more people to run your ship, a polaris will be very overwhelmed trying to be efficient with that many assets whereas the idris is at the perfect point

in star citizen there is very little cases of ships being simply better than others, it just depends on what you need to do and with how many people wanting to do what, only place where some ships are simply better are smaller ships considering their prices are so similar

even that is rare imo

[sharp raven]

Entire Polaris Loadout Leak

||From the RSI Polaris datamined, here is some info!||

||Role: Capital Ship||
||Career: Militia / Patrol||
||Size: S5||
||Crew Size: 12||
||SCM Speed: 210 m/s||
||SCM Boost Speed Forward: 400 m/s||
||SCM Boost Speed Backward: 230 m/s||
||NAV Max Speed: 900 m/s||
||Pitch/Yaw/Roll: 18 / 20 / 25 deg/s||
||Boosted: 23 / 24 / 35 deg/s||
||CM Decoy/Noise: 120 / 30||
||HP: 100,236,000||
||Inventory Capacity: 432 SCUs||
||Dimensions: 87 x 181 x 40 m||
||Mass: 11,000,000 kg||
||Hydrogen Capacity: 2,500,000 l||
||QT Fuel Capacity: 15,000 l ||

||S4 Remote Turret - 12 x Ignite II ||
||S4 Remote Turret - 4 x CF-337 Panther ||
||S5 Manned Turret - 4 x CF-337 Panther||
||S5 Manned Turret - 4 x CF-337 Panther||
||S5 Manned Turret - 2 x Omnisky XII ||
||S5 Manned Turret - 2 x Omnisky XII ||
||S5 Manned Turret - 2 x Omnisky XV ||

||2 x 8 x Arrester III (16) ||
||4 x 7 x Argos IX (28) ||

||Shields: S4 Polaris Shield ||
||Power Plants: S4 Polaris Power Plant ||
||Coolers: S4 Polaris Cooler ||
||Quantum Drives: S3 Erebos||

Im not too mad

[fierce arrow]

^HOW MUCH HP!?!*
Why is one turret smaller than the others. Turret sizes aren’t adding up.

[sharp raven]

EXACTY

TRIPLE THE DAMN IDRIS

[sharp raven]

S4 Remote Missile - On the top in the back

S4 Remote Turret, below in the back

[fierce arrow]

*5X as much. The NPC Idris has 2M and the player Idris from the event had 22M.

[sharp raven]

NPC has 22 Mil now

[fierce arrow]

And the S4 turret with panthers? The S5 turret with Omnisky (15s?)

[sharp raven]

Never the less, WHAT THE FUCK

[fierce arrow]

[fierce arrow]

ANGLED ARMOR FTW!

Either that or you added an extra 0.

Or they did.

[sharp raven]

No, S5's for the bottom from turret below the cockpit

I thought they were S6 :(

However, the Polaris isn't MEAN to really be upclose to use turrets

Sure they'll hurt large ships, but its specialty is the torpedoes

The smaller s3's will be great for fending off fighters

[fierce arrow]

If Polaris is in game, does that mean it is specially releasing??

[sharp raven]

No, interior isnt done unfortunately

HOWEVER

[fierce arrow]

[sharp raven]

With its extremely massive new size

The hangar bay can fit many more ships

AND

432 SCU is REALLY NICE

[fierce arrow]

New??

[fierce arrow]

It kept the ramp, right?

[sharp raven]

Yea, it was around 160

[sharp raven]

Again no interior, but it is very likely.

There are lights on the sides that mark around a rectangle, the same shape and area of the ramp

[fierce arrow]

Good…

Just like the Spirits.

[sharp raven]

Old versus new size

[fierce arrow]

They are the same.

[sharp raven]

I sized it to the correct length

Its just labled wrong

[fierce arrow]

Did it get bigger?

[sharp raven]

Yes

[fierce arrow]

[halcyon estuary]

Did the flight bay receive an increase?

[sharp raven]

Not known

What, you have insider information?

[patent galleon]

Probably increased so people can't murder the flyby ship if something does go wrong.

[sharp raven]

Ah, makes sense, not the real health, just to keep it alive

I think 10 mil would be appropriate 🤞

[patent galleon]

Yeah I don't think the Polaris will actually end up with more HP than an Idris when we get it.

But the turrets look good

[sharp raven]

Yeah, Im not mad

All S5's wouldn't make sense for it's role

S4's aren't bad

And S3's are good against fighters

Some ship destroying capabilities and fighter destroying capabilities

[patent galleon]

For big ships we have the torps

[untold gorge]

Can you put some existing ships next to the resized Polaris? Like reclaimer and c2 etc

[proper junco]

pls buff Polaris quantum tank.

[sharp raven]

Sure

[proper junco]

its a self sufficient patrol and escort capital ship, 15k L is criminal

[sharp raven]

Is it small? I mean its using a S3 QT

[untold gorge]

Wow that’s crazy

[proper junco]

one of the smaller ships has 83kL

[untold gorge]

Can you do Corsair and cutty black and f7a please?

[proper junco]

the C2 has 88k
Polaris has 15k
HH has 11k

[sharp raven]

Ah, I see.

[untold gorge]

lol this thing is huge

[proper junco]

huge with a minature quantum tank

buff pls

[halcyon estuary]

Palceholder*

[untold gorge]

All quantum values are placeholder pre pyro quantum rebalance

[proper junco]

better be

[sharp raven]

Hes right, none of the leaks are official yet

I mean 105 million hull HP, 5x the idris's

[halcyon estuary]

"Nerf the HP, its just criminal!"

[proper junco]

hey im fine with that

scu capacity got buffed too

[sharp raven]

Yeah, Im happy about it

I think it's more appropriate for it's size

[proper junco]

ngl the HH tank also needs a buff

[sharp raven]

It better if it my damn loaner lmao

[proper junco]

I can cross stanton with the fastest drive once with that tank

[untold gorge]

Yeah that bad boy will fit so many tumbrils

[sharp raven]

Height is my main concern

[untold gorge]

It’s got side ramps

[sharp raven]

Right, which makes it harder for vehciles to fit in because you're going in at an angle

It might able to barely get by

[proper junco]

with that cargo size, Polaris is my new cargo ship

[patent galleon]

The hangar is great

[torpid iron]

All this Polaris talk is exciting.

[rigid brook]

So can nova tank fit inside cargo bay

[untold gorge]

Yep

[rigid brook]

Pics or it ain’t real

[untold gorge]

50/50 mate just a guess

[fierce arrow]

Not S4??

[sharp raven]

Hangar link just got the updated model into the viewer, it still isn't sized correctly, however even in its smaller size, it looks like it can maybe fit large vehicles inside the cargo bay

[sharp raven]

No, but again, it could change.

[fierce arrow]

Wasn't it confirmed to be able to do that?

[sharp raven]

And an S3 is faster than an S4 currently

[sharp raven]

No

[marsh tree]

So no IAE

[sharp raven]

What

[marsh tree]

Y’all still think we’re getting it at IAE or no?

[sharp raven]

Were getting it at IAE at most, more likely to be a 4.00 release.

[fierce arrow]

It is coming before October 21st which is what was promised at Citizencon.

[frank lily]

Best Investment...... happy days.

[untold gorge]

New model in star jump

Make your speculative hangar fit comparisons

[untold gorge]

Surely

[patent galleon]

Bigger or smaller?

[untold gorge]

it went from 166 to 181 metres

which implies it also got bigger in every other dimension, unless they made a string bean polaris

[proper junco]

The reason it has not interior is cuz they didnt want the interior to look stretched?

[untold gorge]

Why on earth would they do that

Changing the ingame model from 166 to 181 just for a flyby would be an insane amount of work

And for not even 10% larger? Why not scale it 2x at that point

I don’t buy it

[untold gorge]

It’s not as simple as that, every part that makes up the ship is probably measured in game engine units. Increasing the size of each part doesn’t magically make the ship larger

Have they ever increased the scale of a ship for an in game event before?

alright dude

taking me for a ride i see

blokette

you made up the ship scaling for ingame event

extended parts i guess

whatever dude ill wait until the flyby and see if we get better values then

although i think it will be the same 181 in xml and 167 in blender

[untold gorge]

Hope it’s bigger so it can fit your big ugly head through the hangar doors

[proper junco]

For Polaris? bigger hangar space

vulture fits right at home nice

[untold gorge]

that is probably not working

[proper junco]

https://tenor.com/view/yolo-aragorn-lordoftherings-battle-viggo-mortensen-gif-7488113

anything below 40m is likely to fit it seems

mind the height and width

[opaque rain]

POOLARIS

[untold gorge]

tell me why this wouldnt work

[proper junco]

since the arrows wings fold up, maybe u can place them sideways to each other

[opaque rain]

i hope the redeemer is short enough in terms of height to fit

i will squeeze it in

prolly not tho

i believe zeus will fit tho if they keep this size

[proper junco]

we here playing ship tetris

yea i think the redeemer is a bit too big

will it fit in an Idris tho?

the vanguard will fit if its not too tall. folded wings

[opaque rain]

nah you can squeeze the length in probably, its just too tall to close the doors

zeus will fit tho prolly

im happy for that

[proper junco]

An inferno would fit + and arrow

[opaque rain]

it is a tight one but im hopeful zeus wont grow

[proper junco]

I kinda want a legionnaire to board ships after soft death by Polaris

[opaque rain]

polaris aint soft deathing any ships, just send them to a scrapyard after a 4xs10 volley

[coral rover]

reduces them to mere atoms

[coral rover]

Might stuff a F8 into mine

prob gonna be a tight fit tho

[proper junco]

it will fit comfortable

[coral rover]

sweet

[sharp raven]

The idris has more hangar space, however the Polaris will be able to accommodate a wider variety of ships because of it's height and width

[sharp raven]

Lmao, thats true

[sharp raven]

Height isn't a problem for the Polaris, it is for the idris however

Especially since you can just leave the hangar doors open

infinite space

[proper junco]

Syulens

[proper junco]

Hehe

[sharp raven]

Okay? You dont need the ship to stay inside, as long as it can refuel and rearm

Then It can warp alongside

Mole, Redeemer, Syulen, Corsair, Raft, Valkryie

Those are just a few I can think of

Im sure there are more.

[halcyon estuary]

You could set up a private Cry Astros in the black somewhere!

[sharp raven]

I feel like for a Polaris lover, you're really anti-Polaris

[sharp raven]

Its really close

I will agree, I would've prefered duel S4's, but 4 s3's is better than the 4 s2's that I thought they'd be in the trailer

[proper junco]

4s4? Uwu

Cant be stronger than HH turrets ig or HH will be obsolete

[sharp raven]

Well its en entriely different role,

Anti-Capital with turrets large enough to fend of some large/medium ships and fighters

[proper junco]

Its the 4s3 at the bottom thats remote right

[sharp raven]

It's torpedoes are what make it shine

[sharp raven]

4s3 on bottom remote and 4 s3 on side turrets that pop out of the hull

[proper junco]

Right nice

Coulda swore there was supposed to be an automatic turret or 2

[sharp raven]

And then duel S5 under the bridge, and duel s4 on the top

[proper junco]

Gib pds

[sharp raven]

Plus the missile turret in the back

[proper junco]

Will smaller sized guns have faster velocity?

[sharp raven]

Exactly,

[sharp raven]

Maybe? Much fast fire rate though

Good for precision targetting and gimbals

[proper junco]

Nice

[sharp raven]

I feel like theres gotta be some reason for it, maybe S3's will be the new s4's

[proper junco]

S6 guns would be nice too

Not as anti capital as a s7 but still punches hard

Unless the plan is torping anything thats bigger than a connie

Tbh the hangar lets it carry an ares ship

[sharp raven]

S9's one shot vehicles like the Hammerhead

S10's one shot vehicles like the idris TM? /j

[sharp raven]

2 if you're feeling special

[proper junco]

Dont tempt me

An eclipse would be redundant but hey more boom

[sharp raven]

👀

[proper junco]

Wings might clip unto the walls but it looks like theres some wiggle room

Instant 2 deployable s7 guns

[sharp raven]

Thats it? It'll take every torpedo to kill the idris + a restock

They need to do 1 million damage at minimum

[proper junco]

It would be funny if they buffed s12

[sharp raven]

You dont call it a capital killer yet it cant even kill a single idris

[proper junco]

I mean they kinda gutted the Idris by nerfing ammo on the rail

18 shots

Not that any of them is out yet but

Hopefully we get a better view of the Polaris specs come iae

[opaque rain]

hangar is smaller inside tho

[patent galleon]

Or properly figuring out Engineering/Component Damage and Armour so that the torps can gut an Idris and leave it a sputtering wreck if unopposed.

[sharp raven]

Ah, didn't think about that

[proper junco]

Hull breaches

[patent galleon]

HP and damage numbers going brrr are not the stated goals of capital ship warfare.

[proper junco]

Realistically those rail shots and torpedoes would rip the hull right off

A critical hit will disable any ship

Cant fix the gaping hole in the engine with rmc

We ll see the extent with maelstrom

[patent galleon]

Yup, without maelstrom (which I don't expect to see anytime soon) I don't see proper hull breaches being a thing.
But for a "good enough to put the Idris and Polaris in" state there should at least be component damage as the main way to actually kill larger ships as opposed to hull HP. Torps damaging multiiple components at once while the Railgun punches through and takes out one component in its entirety.

[rigid brook]

Now to slap in like 6-8 arrows for pocket carrier

[coral rover]

Mantis moment

Idk if that its in the polaris tho

[sharp raven]

WEE WOO WEE WOO

POLARIS IN SHOW ROOM

[mossy yoke]

wow cool

[fierce arrow]

RELEASE!?!

[sharp raven]

I hope not, I cannot afford a 1k polaris

But

Maybe

The signals from CIG are so mixed

We go from ILW trailer

To fly-by

To in-game, but blacked out with no interior

[fierce arrow]

Fly By or Fly By only?

[sharp raven]

And now its at the convention center

[sharp raven]

Fixed it

[fierce arrow]

Which one did they say??

Fly by leaves room for other things.

[sharp raven]

Fly-by

My question still stands though, why is the interior not in and the windows blacked out?

[mossy yoke]

there is Perseus aswell... is this fake?

[sharp raven]

Those are just holographs

[mossy yoke]

ah ok

[coral rover]

Well if the windows weren't blacked out and there is no interior it would look very weird

[mossy yoke]

easy

the interior is done, but placing AI crew at all stations was not finished! so they hide autopiloted flyby! ;-7

[frank lily]

Hang on.... did you just say... Blacked out windows and a S no w Interior???

[rigid brook]

Hopefully we get huge info dump at fleet week through Polaris dedicated video, where they are like yeah it was a rush job to get exterior good looking enough for fleet week come back for IAE

[mossy yoke]

well, we dont know how much modifikation can be made, swaping missles to guns on turret hard points?!

[rigid brook]

With precision targeting would be cool if we could replace turrets with more armored or harder to disable turrets just adds to customization

[fiery pine]

posting random screenshots of the model, here are the escape pod hatches

The new hangar door mechanism, and the way I interpret it to open
The doors will almost definitely slide along the spine of the ship, with a second on each end that rotates (labeled rotators), and panels on the sides of each door section that will slide inward to fit within the smaller cavities the door sections slide into

not sure whether the rotators will turn outward or inward, I would think the front door rotating inward would cause clearance issues with the hangar, but turning outward didnt make sense to me either because of spacing
but with the new mesh the hangar doors will clearly look a lot cleaner than the original concept just popping them outside the hull

cargo ramps and docking collars on both port and starboard, but this could be told by previous reference images

The panels advertised as heat vents in the OC brochure are now airbrakes

Ailerons, better atmo handling than an idris?

tbh based on the airbrakes, ailerons, and dual cargo ramps, polaris might be a really nice ship for planetary use, I need to import tonk and check dimensions

[fiery pine]

I like this one a lot, pretty sure its for the webpage when RSI day opens

One bigass headlight

[sharp raven]

Wrong, you took off the turret door, not the docking port door.

[fiery pine]

That is the docking door, the turret door is behind it

You highlighted the turret door

[sharp raven]

My apologies, you are completely correct

Thats an interesting layout redesign

[fiery pine]

Very slim chance the Nova will actually fit through the cargo bay doors, depening on ramp/door angles

if it does, its only barely, and probably very intentionally that way

make the doors just big enough to satisfy people but nothing more

also possible that if the angle becomes an issue while driving the tank in (turret hitting the roof, even while tucked) you might be able to get away with retracting the ramp, and driving in as it levels out

the roof is very tight in the cargo bay

I give it a 50/50 tonk "fits"

[sharp raven]

While the current weapons on the Polaris aren't the most ideal for a ship it's size, I think it will still be decent in combat and a great mobile base,

I'm very excited for it

But trutthfully, for an Idris P for another 500 bucks, the weapons on it, I think are even worse

I feel like CIG has taken a step back on making Capital ships absuredely powerful for "balance"

Yet I dont understand how an A2 has better armaments.

[fiery pine]

actually, take that back, tonk will likely just fit
the upper cargo bay door folds inward, and the floor is lower than that picture depicted it as

[mossy yoke]

hm well i like the polaris having it all, using "missle turrets" to chase those small fighter which keep out of turret range, sounds cool to me

so the weapons make a ll commers to me, in bigger fleet fights the small turrets can help doing PD service, not sure hiw good manned/remot are on shooting down missles/torpedoes, but its doable aswell

think all those turrets are gattlings, and go look "the expanse"

[fiery pine]

because its armaments are limited in scope and vulnerable in situations involving more angles of defense

if youre pummeling a base, protecting the dorsal isnt as relevant

but in space, any angle is likely

[sharp raven]

I agree, I think that turrets on the ship are primarily for taking out fighters with ease, and not to destroy large ships

I just feel like its a little contradictory when ships like a hammerhead that are primarily for anti-fighter, have 4 s4's on each turret and not 4 s3's.

[fiery pine]

polaris isnt meant to get surrounded by fighters

if that happens, either it runs, or its too late

combat wise its meant for quick torpedo strikes and staying undetected

[sharp raven]

To an extent, yes,

If we think of the Polaris's main target being idris's with 3-5 light fighters in the hangar bay, then it could be a problem

[fiery pine]

hence having a bigger radar than other ships, even the idris only has a large radar AFAIK, polaris has capital

[sharp raven]

Oh really? I didn't know that.

However, I will say, the SCM speed on the polaris is wild for the ship

[fiery pine]

yeah, something along the lines of "spot them before they spot you"

[fiery pine]

very

[sharp raven]

400 m/s boost is absurdely fast

[fiery pine]

hard to hit that speed in SCM though, its just the limit

not sure the capacitor would have enough juice to do that even with full engine power

but given its meant to be fast, maybe

[sharp raven]

Well when your engineering deck takes up half of the entire ship, I think it is likely that it'll go fast

[proper junco]

Bigger engines more bzzzzt

And when in space where theres supposedly no resistance

[fiery pine]

The entrance elevator has a duplicated static cosmetic panel, so its likely even more hidden from the exterior than the A2's elevator

[sharp raven]

Elevators?

Since when

I dont deny, those are very elevatory looking shapes

[fiery pine]

since always? its the front crew elevator near the bridge

[sharp raven]

That goes outside?

[fiery pine]

yes

[sharp raven]

I thought it was just interior

huh

[fiery pine]

Im curious about the potential 2 elevators that go from the cargo bay to the hangar bay

on angled tracks

only one was shown in the reworked concept images, but just as with the docking collars and cargo bay ramps, they were symmetrical

[sharp raven]

There have been rumors of their removal, but I am really hoping they're still there, especially with the large cargo bay

[proper junco]

Elevator from hangar to cargo section seems interesting

Also buffed to 400 scu

[fiery pine]

I feel like having an elevator from the cargo to the hangar is like, very necessary to use the hangar properly

so you can store ship components and resources, such as missiles

[proper junco]

Exactly

[sharp raven]

Especially for missiles, (bullets if thats added), and maybe even fuel, yea.

[fiery pine]

dont see why they would remove it

[proper junco]

Hope going forward we get more of that in caps

[sharp raven]

Well looking at the white box in 2023 from citcon, its not there.

But it was just a white box

I'm also curious to know whether or not the secret 3rd deck is still in the ship.

[proper junco]

Transferong cargo from and to the hangar would be jarring without that elevator

[sharp raven]

Side ramps ! !

I imagine using the cargo bay like the caterpillar, might be great for salvage or even mining

Store a few extra ore bags, take em' off a mole, and put new ones on

[fiery pine]

that was the OC model, not the reworked whitebox IIRC?

[proper junco]

U can fit a vulture in that and offload the scu boxes in the hangar before selling

[sharp raven]

I couldn't tell you, but Im relatively certain that was finished whitebox.

[fiery pine]

I hope we can open the cargo bay doors in space without deploying the ramps, and bringing that to other ships like the Hercules

[proper junco]

I thought ore bags were supposed to be inflatable and is like ammo for prospectors and moles

Or plain just swallow up cargo free floating in space

[mossy yoke]

i disagree, its a patrol ship, which makes it likly to encounter larger numbers of smaller vessles to me

[sharp raven]

Yes, you can even buy them at the cargo terminals at cargo decks I believe

[sharp raven]

Hes got a point

However

It might be more likely to see ships like the Andromeda and Corsair

maybe not fighters

That will especially be true for system like Pyro

[fiery pine]

not saying it cant handle some, you can just look at its HP/shield stats to tell that (though thats very likely to change as the current files label it specifically as FW (fleet week)

but its certainly not a fighter screen

[sharp raven]

105 million HP? Im sure its 100 percent real and the Polaris beats idris 100% of the time

[proper junco]

15k L quantum fuel is horrible for a patrol ship

HH has 11k rn

[sharp raven]

But its also a S3, we'll see

[mossy yoke]

well its a allorunder, and i hope it stays a allrounder

[proper junco]

The fastest s3 drive guzzles up thst fuel fast

I believe the idris has been mined to have 3m K of fuel

[sharp raven]

Really? I feel like an XL-1 can make like 4 trips from MT and Arcrorp in the HH

[fiery pine]

I feel like the more accurate answer is that the idris's health is woefully below what it will be in the PU

[fiery pine]

yeah, this is something I noticed.

[sharp raven]

Its 22 million in the PU currently

[fiery pine]

that was just for the player event afaik

[sharp raven]

Nope, its still 22 million.

[fiery pine]

so that it wouldnt just melt like the 2M HP NPC ships

well right

[sharp raven]

For all AI idrises.

[fiery pine]

ah

[proper junco]

A ship meant to the sustainable for a long time wont work with just 15k L of quantum

How are you supposed to escort a bengal

[sharp raven]

Hopefully with a starfarer

[fiery pine]

it does have a physical fuel port

[sharp raven]

Im curious to know where the fuel pods to refuelling are in the ship

(I think they're in the secret 3rd deck)

[fiery pine]

theyre not mapped, actually
this may be a hangar feature

[proper junco]

One of them fuel hoses for the ship in the hangar

[fiery pine]

actually they may be mapped, theyre directly at the front of the hangar

[fiery pine]

yeah they must have removed the doorway at the front of the hangar, this would make sense with the hangar door piece folding down

so putting the fuel port there along with the cargo elevators would make sense

[sharp raven]

I just want the 3rd deck to be real, its in all concept images of the hangar and even in the whitebox 😭

[proper junco]

Im all in the 3rd deck be ATC

Just right around the 2nd half of the hangar

[sharp raven]

In the door?

[fiery pine]

no

inside the hangar at the front

[sharp raven]

Im sorry, is this how they refuel?

[fiery pine]

yeah no nevermind thats just the intake and fuel tank, theyre not mapped

[fiery pine]

I was referring to the idea of being able to fuel a fighter from inside the ship

[sharp raven]

Ah

[proper junco]

The hangar is supposed to be able to service the craft inside

At least refuel, rearm, and minor repairs

[lunar hinge]

Chances of the polaris going up in price this week? :u

[sharp raven]

Unlikely, probably won't go up in price until release

But its not certain

[lunar hinge]

Considering if I should put my buyback into action before

[coral rover]

@elfin scarab I summon thee

anyway I thought you might like polaris palooza

[dense grotto]

...

👀

[rigid brook]

Just gonna be exterior on display

[fierce arrow]

Gib interior.

It has to have interior.

[sharp raven]

No clue if this is you, but I have upvoted

If we complain enough, im sure something will be said

Has CIG every changed a ships weapons before anyways?

Sure, but that was for most ships, it was just a gimbal

You could've doen the same with the C2, S4-S5

I don't think they've ever actually changed weapons

If this loadout was still apart of 3.22, nobody would've had an issue

Because the weapon sizes would've gone up like any other vehicle

But now, it feels like they made the weapon choices were made prior to weapon gimballing

[dreamy linden]

Would recommend upvoting this one
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/looking-for-questions-star-citizen-live-all-ships-/6844251
So we can get an answer on the hangar repair/refuel/rearm capabilities

It's not my question, for clarification

It's also near the top so we have an reasonable chance of getting it answered

https://i.imgur.com/P0yXYfX.png

You're only allowed one question, anyway

Or wait

Are you allowed more?

"Since the Polaris is "only" doing a flyby during Invictus and I therefore assume that it is not flight ready, I would like to know what is preventing you from completing it."
Maybe the fact that it takes time to finish a ship???

What the hell is this question from them

It's a fucking capital ship, lmao

[sharp raven]

Lmao, I saw that one, couldn't help but laugh

[dreamy linden]

How many do they usually answer?

Gotcha

[dense grotto]

Gimmie my Polaris 👹

[proper junco]

any chance the Polaris gets an ATC deck overlooking the hangar?

[opaque rain]

that's not been in any of the layouts

but possible still

[frank lily]

Up voted mate

added my 2cents worth in concierge

[fierce arrow]

If I upvoted my Lynx to a Polaris, do I get to name it.

[dim narwhal]

Let's put it into perspective about how much he the idris is going to have upon release, the polaris was a lightly armored alternative meant for hit and runs and to quickly dispatch enemies. While the idris was meant to outlast them. So if the polaris is lightly armored and the idris is armored. The hp values when the idris is released or when the polaris is released are going to raise exponentially to balance things out.

Unless they reduce the polaris hp values because it's for the show only.

[fierce arrow]

It has angled armor. Of course it has more hp.

[coral rover]

That's, big

[fierce arrow]

Very cute.

[coral rover]

Def gonna be my flagship when it comes out

[fierce arrow]

My 890J is my flagship. The Polaris will just be a fun ship to use with friends.

[mossy yoke]

huh i tougth the front turret is remote? hope its only a placeholder

[coral rover]

I also have the 890 but that's more of just a relaxing ship for me

[fierce arrow]

Same.

[sharp raven]

No? They've always said it'd be manned

[rigid brook]

Where big beefy turrets like in rework

[mossy yoke]

than its me or so what...

[halcyon estuary]

Check out that rear turret above and behind the hangar

[sharp raven]

Its does say automated, but in the Whitebox, it was very clearly manned

[mossy yoke]

automated is what, AI Blade like self controller? or remote/manned and automated?! what is the difference?

[sharp raven]

I think it means remote

That'd be wild if it was automatically run

But they're all manned, the back 2 are remote

[proper junco]

they should remote it ngl and accessible from the bridge

its essentially the main gun

tho a size up would be appreciated

[mossy yoke]

original it had S5 guns on the front automated remote

[rigid brook]

man the polaris dedicated update video better include alot of info

[fierce arrow]

When is this?

[rigid brook]

dont know but i have a feeling we will eventually get one

[marsh tree]

Where’s this

[clear stag]

Wait a second

It’s carrying size 9s torps ? The size two turrets really confuse me

[dense grotto]

They’re placeholders for now when it’s released it’s gonna be S10 capital killer torps

26 of them 😩

[clear stag]

God I hope so I do like the quad size 4s tho

[dense grotto]

That’s the whole idea of the ship lol

Even if you look at the RSI components and load out page

It says 26x s10 torps

[clear stag]

Yeah I know about all this but getting info from the RSI site is usually gonna make you have a bad time

[dense grotto]

True but we know for a fact it’s s10 because that’s the whole idea of the ship lol

It’s suppose to be a hit and run ship

Last cit con for advertisement they showed greybox Polaris blowing up an idris (it’s not gonna be as easy in the video but you can see the explosions are massive)

[dense grotto]

https://youtu.be/zGvjrVPfkWE?si=8HfQOwX2xgSK5v7d

(Not damage accurate Dw it’s not gonna be that easy)

I’d assume for an Idris is gonna be 7-12 torps

Yesssssirrrrrrrr

[clear stag]

But the turret sizes how do we feel do you think they will change?

[proper junco]

s9 are place holders

[dense grotto]

Unfortunately probably not but again I’m not sure because they did with the reclaimer iirc

if they were different on the sheet CIG gave out then probably yes

Remember it’s a militia/patrol ship it’s suppose to be able to hold its own when needed

[fierce arrow]

Which means it should have larger guns then the 890J.

Imagine getting chased down, forced into close quarters, and killed by an 890J.

[dense grotto]

💀💀💀💀

[dense grotto]

Does it have the same guns as of rn? 😭

It’s suppose to be hammerhead turrets doesn’t it?

And one size 5 turret

[fierce arrow]

It has 1-2 sizes smaller.

[fierce arrow]

Hammerheads are S4 or S5. It has smaller than those.

[rigid brook]

i just hope we can still get those thick turrets on top like in rework

[proper junco]

HH was purely s4 unless they changed it

[clear stag]

Do we know what tier medical beds it has yet?

[proper junco]

2 as concepted a long time ago

Wish they would upgrade capital beds to t1

Make having quantities of medbeds mean something too so that more specialized ships have more uses

[dense grotto]

Polaris4EVER

[clear stag]

Just incase it hasn’t been put here yet

Shit

[pallid lantern]

An all black 890 is sick though

[proper junco]

They will make it concierge exclusive ofc

[lilac swan]

😢

it looks so good tho

i want the holo table and the briefing room

that waste of space where that guy moved the armory would be so cool

[fierce arrow]

Cutters fault we don’t have one.

[rigid brook]

lol roadmap round up 4.0 at q3 mentions zeus es but doesnt mention polaris welp see you bois at IAE

[torpid iron]

You mean see us Friday!

[sharp raven]

Yeah....

I mean 4.0 is still like 3-4 months away

[rigid brook]

Mad cope sorry bud

[sharp raven]

Surely the interior will be done

right?

[sharp raven]

[fierce arrow]

Polaris before Citcon or refund.

[frank lily]

Let me just say - I Fucking CANT WAIT to sit my ass in my fooolie Siiiick POLARIS Captians Chair - and tell my crew to - Engage Warp Spore Drive... and lets go back in time and take over the UEE...

What we need is a capitals strategy channel - to discuss different fleet compositions, ship advantages, strategy and tactics...

Freakin love strategy discussions..

[proper junco]

a capital ship owner club

my tickets right here

[frank lily]

Noice...!

[untold gorge]

Polaris meetup on release?

[proper junco]

If it concides well with my schedule, im in

[dim narwhal]

What we need is a giant fleet of polarises with two man on them all, so we have a giant missile fleet.

Screw lasers. Nothing but missiles.

[coral rover]

Imagine seeing a squad of polarises and hearing 'hold this for us' and seeing 16 torpedoes coming at you

[proper junco]

Idris crew be like
Objective: survive

[mossy yoke]

depends on torpedo hp

idris has loads of PD

[mossy yoke]

sounds like a plan

[lilac swan]

i put my polaris on my hoverquad token ☠️

it was the only LTI i had at the time

[proper junco]

[proper junco]

how much discount u got?

ngl the discount i got is too big to melt so I decided might as well turn it unmeltable

[opaque rain]

same

im down to $410 saved

or smt silly like that

[rigid brook]

Invictus ship round table tomorrow, more like polaris q&a session

[untold gorge]

“Why do ships take time to develop” “why is this specific ship taking a while to develop”

[proper junco]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ayasan-gif-24417454

i swear a couple of s6 guns on the nose would have made it better against targets a size below torping size

connie to 600i sized ships

not quite anti capital as s7 guns but its something

does the Idris have any guns higher than s5? other than the rail

😠

big L

Idris has a scm speed of 45

Polaris is just slightly slower than a Hornet at scm

for its size thats actually really fast

[lilac swan]

it was $15

terrible

[proper junco]

wish I had the money to take terrible discounts

[lilac swan]

well it was money from years of putting in 10-20 into the game each month

so realistically it would be like paying the $20 subsciption for 3 years straight

[proper junco]

I was collecting warbond ccus for both the Apollo and Polaris 2 years ago

and finished that chain last year

coming up with about 50% on the Polaris

[lilac swan]

i knew a guy in baron's old server who dropped 5k on IAE 2952

[proper junco]

https://tenor.com/view/black-adam-gif-26989330

[clear stag]

I’m going to be sick

[opaque rain]

polaris confirmed IAE

[lunar hinge]

She is big

[coral rover]

Polaris my beloved

[fierce arrow]

WTF!?!

LIES!

I was told before Citizencon!

[proper junco]

When is iae again

November?

[fierce arrow]

Yes.

Citizencon is in October.

[proper junco]

They promised me 12 months not 13

[halcyon estuary]

➣ Q - When will the Polaris be flight ready?
✦A - Polaris will be flight ready at IAE this year

[torpid iron]

Eh. I always just thought it was a jump-in, fire torps, get out kinda ship. Turret size doesn’t bother me.

I disagree. If you want a gunship get a Perseus.

I always assumed the Polaris would essentially be useless in a large battle once the torps are deployed.

[mossy yoke]

hm...

SPviewer shows at least 1x Turret with S5 Weapons, hopfully the front turret...

and the other ones, maybe can get modular turret fittings, like 4xs3 or 2xs4 as desired...

[fierce arrow]

At as in already released by that point or at as in released during?

https://tenor.com/view/treason-star-wars-light-saber-gif-14025340

Time to melt.

[halcyon estuary]

I always assume the longest duration with CIG!

[lilac swan]

the zeus better come out soon if we're waiting till November

[fierce arrow]

13 > 12 months which was the longest duration.

[halcyon estuary]

10 years

[lunar hinge]

Polaris backer for 8 years

[mossy yoke]

feels fantastic beeing this littel human down there... ;-D

[fierce arrow]

N-No.

So it had its guns shrunk and is now useless.

I really should melt.

What else could I buy for $750?

[marsh tree]

Stop the cap

Source?

What time

Didn’t work for me

They’ve lied to us before

[fierce arrow]

If I get a Jav on wave 1 or 2, then I am melting my Polaris and Arrastra for an attempt against the Idris on Wave 3.

[torpid iron]

Idris is always a good choice.

[fierce arrow]

That or Kraken but Idris will be done sooner won’t it?

[proper junco]

the nose guns definitely looks under sized

[fierce arrow]

https://youtu.be/dIjkzeiPEHY

Sure would be a shame if I melted and got an Idris…

[rigid brook]

I want those thick turrets from the rework

Hot take
nose should be dual size 6
Top turrets should be dual size 5
Side turrets should be quad size 4
Rear turrets top and bottom should be dual size 4 or quad size 3
And missile turret should be put on top infront of hangar

[fierce arrow]

The Polaris is getting melted. Its current targets are bad.

[fierce arrow]

Why is this a hot take?

[fierce arrow]

Why were they downsized? Just why? They clearly fit so its not a size issue.

[rigid brook]

Imma be honest the Polaris looks ugly looks too busy I miss the clean panels

I hope the right one becomes a paint would love yellow windows with silver and dark grey

[fierce arrow]

I like the higher detail of it. But the smaller turrets make it bad enough to melt.

[dreamy linden]

I think it's super super pretty, imo

And the turrets are fine, it has enough to shred fighters and then its primary damage is in its torpedoes

It's very premature to give up on it, imo

[fierce arrow]

It gets outranged by the fighters it is supposed to shred.

[fierce arrow]

I found proof that the ship is mostly the same. Except the 1 Quad S3 on the back being an upgrade from 2 X S4.

[proper junco]

-2 turrets im pretty damn sure

1 is a missile pod and the other a turret

Yes its a downgrade

One missile pod missing, missiles are s2 instead of 3 ammo also went from 16 to 12

As well as 1 turret with guns just thanosed from existence

[patent galleon]

Upper rear facing turret got poofed

[fierce arrow]

Exposed rear…

If Naval action is anything to go by, it will surely get stern camped.

[rigid brook]

Time to bully a corporation

[proper junco]

Im kinda surprised no one in the qna asked who fire the torps

[mossy yoke]

polaris is on erkul!

[proper junco]

Yes

[opaque rain]

i like the more rugged look more

[fierce arrow]

After I melt for the Idris? Ok…

[proper junco]

My Polaris unmeltable

Cant do anything about it its there for good

I can only go up

Only if the bmm goes up again in price and if they decided the hangar is gonna get bigger

[rigid brook]

Oh shoot I thought they said tomorrow

[dense grotto]

hey sorry for tagging but you seem to know quite alot about the polaris

wanted to ask do you think the zeus will fit inside?

[proper junco]

Unlikely

If a ship is below 40m there just might be a bit of wiggle room

30 is very likely to fit

[clear stag]

The turrets really do make me nervous so many blind spots now

[mossy yoke]

ladys, dont be rabbits

geth your M50 Merlin or Mustang Delta, or both, to cover those blind spots easy

than there are those nice and pretty and big range missles turrets!!

in the end, just worry about Pointdefence... so those small turret sizes will help with covering those purposes!

i love my Patrol Ship, which can stand on its owne, close or ranged, for me all is covered!

but pls go melt yours all, makes me feel more proud of heaving this beauty not to share with others

;-7

[sharp raven]

Well if you compare the weapons loadout to the capabilities of a Carrack, its great

[mossy yoke]

we will see, since balancing is going to chance 10x times till this baby is flight ready...

[sharp raven]

But its not a carrack

Fucking told you

But like, why the hell does a HH get 4 s4's and not 4 s3's per turret?

The HH is an anti-fighter sub-capital corvette

But whatever

still hyped for the ship

it'll be peak

[mossy yoke]

well, ill use B crew (AI and NPCs)

ill maybe bring 2 Human friends

so not solo, just B Liga

and well nobody ist talking about those big shilds and HP pool, aswell big countermessures pool

[sharp raven]

Also, is there a straight answer to Torpedo damage?

Some say 500k, 2.7 million, or even 11 million, there is no in between, just extreme outliers

fuck, not peak

11 million is fucking wild

56 torps to murder an idris

thats 0.5 idrises per load

Oh

what

that sucks

why

thats horrible

thats so bad

11 million? Thats not a single idris

thats 0.5

[mossy yoke]

weapons go up 150% per size

so S1 100 S2 150 S3 225
so S9 torp is 390k dmg than might a S10 Trop be around 585K dmg

[sharp raven]

Actual scam

seriously

2.7 million damage per torp I think is ideal

thats about 2 idrises per load

And when considering big capital ships like the idris will have PDS

I think its more than fair

[mossy yoke]

well some missels do double dmg then other missles so yeah might be between 400-600k one torpedo

[clear stag]

is there a issue council post we can upvote in protest

[proper junco]

S6 pls

[untold gorge]

wrong numbers lol

those are just numbers for the fly by, i dont think the polaris will have 100mil hp

[mossy yoke]

for sure, there are aswell all weapons listed, and it will be updated as soon as there are real numbers, just wanted to tell that its now on erkul

[rigid brook]

Nose should be dual size 6
Top turrets should be dual size 5
Side turrets should be quad size 4
Rear turrets top and bottom should be dual size 4
Missile turret should be top front of hangar with size 3

[mossy yoke]

well well right now, polaris has roughly half offensiv power of a hammerhead, if you dont count Torpedoes and Hangar Ship asset

so its like missles around 75 k dmg, turrets around 15 k dmg

hammerhead goes about 150 k dmg missles and 30 k dmg with turrets

but well, then there is no small craft and torpedoes, and the polaris has much bigger HP and Shild pools aswell power supply

strange in erkul, polaris has only one missle turret, i thoutgh it has 2?

well they said pilot can use torpedoes, so its just a big very big bomber as solo player Hrhrhr ;-D

[clear stag]

I agree

[proper junco]

They did?

Also does phl mean Philippines?

[mossy yoke]

do not kow, someone postet blue text as anwser, what a captain chair can do, or if a co-pilot can take over flying if pilot needs to get out of his chair... need to search source again

but it was pretty clear stated

[mossy yoke]

me is located in swiss, but born in austria, but PHL is just Shotname of my big Orga "Phoenix Legion"

ah oh, did not know

[proper junco]

Darn okay

[sharp raven]

In a QnA it was mentioned that there would be a dedicated weapons officer

You can also see the weapon officer's terminal in the whitebox shown at citizencon

[mossy yoke]

sure, and if hey bussy, the captain helps out, but well i see where this will end again... so keep it, ill not jump on this train!

you all know, i am for solo gameplay in atleast PVE to maximum so yes, aswell to multicrew ships, and all the gamplay, dont try to conivince me to the other side anymore, ill never go there...

i want, soloplay (with npc, blade mechanics of course) i want PVE doable till alomost everything, byside bigger events, which then can be done by multiple player, ech on ther owne multiship with npcs as fleet event!

so yeah, this time it was not me, just read that their is this option, to fire torps by pilot/captain and well sifi wise it would be lame, not to do all the controls by major terminals... of main bridge of a ship... but yeah go and complain about the fear for your broken multiplayer ship crew expierence, because i a causel singel would destroy all your dreams... pff man cant here it anymore

[mossy yoke]

second hand source firing torps by pilot/copilot

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/65300/thread/torpedo-firing/6570648

[proper junco]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004925567478542407/1165437663730479114/ezgif-4-d7ea5ce9d5.gif?ex=6546d967&is=65346467&hm=fc5d28c060cd2f688099ad01751156acee5985acacedd9c5476050468e6faac9&

[mossy yoke]

Creating Crewmen

Many of Star Citizen’s ships, such as the Freelancer or Constellation, feature positions for multiple crewmen. Players will always be able to hire NPC crewmen in the game, contracting computer-controlled crews to help man turrets, run consoles and fly escort. If you would like the option of customizing your crew, you can create your own NPCs by using a Game Character slot. You will go through the same character creation process as your player character but will then have the option of handing off control to an AI. As an additional bonus, friends can ‘drop in’ to take over these crewmen themselves and to help man your spacecraft when available.

2013, RSI even said NPCs can fly as "Escort" on your side...

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13288-multiple-package-clarification

well lets all make peace, i am here because i like the polaris

how gameplay will work later, and how good it can be run is out of our hands...

CIG can any time go in both directions or flip, and in best cases open up both ways to play big ships!

i dont mind that you only want to play side by side with humans

just let room for solos aswell

thats all i want

[proper junco]

wonder if they will make AI crew pledge or I will have to but multiple game packages

[mossy yoke]

i think its outdated, but yeah could get a golden cash cow...

maybe than i am to poor to crew anything ending up doing doutys on your ship for ages, to later dream of my owne crewd ship... 😅😂

i think its outdated and will not see the verse this way, but wonders happen often!

[proper junco]

just finished setting up my new connie medivac

[coral rover]

Polaris my beloved

[mossy yoke]

[fierce arrow]

Missile turrets can’t hit close. They have a min range.

[mossy yoke]

well for that, there are those S3 quad gettlings, massdriver, lasers!?

[fierce arrow]

That can defend the rear?

[mossy yoke]

no but the M50 can

in the end, as you all always tell me, the Polaris, will for sure always have 2-3 light, med fighter escorts, which can one by one use hangar for short maintenance

[fierce arrow]

True.

[mossy yoke]

thats this fantastic thing in my eyes! polaris has much more options to combat, compared to other corvettes like perseus or hammerhead

[clear stag]

it’s very under gunned for its size

Watch them release a military upgrade soon

[torpid iron]

Part of the arsenal for the Polaris is the hangar. Choose a fighter that complements it and you should be fine. It’s not a do everything ship on its own merit and shouldn’t be.

[mossy yoke]

hm, in my definition of going alone, the fighter escorts count for the polaris as being on its owne

[torpid iron]

What are you scared of that an F8 + turrets won’t at least annoy?

[fierce arrow]

Eclipse or Scorpius.

[torpid iron]

Scorpius doesn’t have anti capital guns.

F8 would win against a Corsair, Connie

Ya they can’t keep an f8 in firing range and if they did the Polaris would still do damage.

[mossy yoke]

i would than use missles

[fierce arrow]

Which is a huge problem.

[mossy yoke]

aha, well if not than, for what are you going to use those missles?

[fierce arrow]

Missiles are bad against small craft because they they simply close to minimum range.

[proper junco]

And minimum range is?

bring back s4 s

upsize the nose to s6

and the missing missile pod

[fierce arrow]

The radar that probably only sees forward? And what if the first salvo of 4 misses and or doesn’t kill?

[mossy yoke]

well she will not brak because of some incoming dmg...

it sounds like your finished if just one fighter makes it to shooting range...

well it better be some longer fights and encounters, or most gamply like repair, medic, engenieren or boarding will not be any use... after 10 second fights are over allready

about your Radar love, well steahlt, scramblers and other e-war action will show how good its on long range...

[clear stag]

You know even a Hercules has more size 5s than the Polaris

[opaque rain]

why we so upset about the gun sizes on polaris guys

this was never a ship that was supposed to go in alone and deal with everything

the point that it's supposed to run with a HH and whatnot was made very clear lol

[blazing fiber]

Don’t you know if i can’t solo every ship and beat a fully crewed idris then this game is bullshit

[opaque rain]

true

almost as if these mfs want you to work together

[blazing fiber]

Working with other people sounds like some scam bullshit just let us pledge ai crew already

[opaque rain]

flagship

so it is meant to operate in a fleet

its not gonna be solod by a single ballistic corsair

as long as you have your proper crew

i have

[elfin scarab]

!!!!

[coral rover]

u took way too long

[elfin scarab]

hehe

[coral rover]

[dim narwhal]

Everyone who is calling the polaris a scam, didn't read or understand the purpose of the polaris... I could see this from a mile away and still happy with the results because it's better than I originally thought it would turn out.

Performs its specific role perfectly and isn't an all rounder ship like it wasn't intended to be. It deals heavy damage and is fast asf. But low armor and low PDS. Only high burst damage as it should be.

It's main weapons aren't guns.

They are the toros

Torpz

It is meant to be a mini destroyer,

Precisely, rock paper scissors.

It is a mix.

It has its strengths and weaknesses

Plenty of strengths

High burst damage for one. Tops can easily rip to shreds other ships of its size and larger.

Speed is damn near unmatched. It can out speed any ship of its size and larger.

It can easily do hit and runs and attack blindspots.

Unsupported yes

But you forget it's a flagship, flagships are supported.

A flag ship is the head of a fleet. It needs aupport.

Just as a idris does.

Just as a javelin will

Every ship needs support to be effective. It by itself can be destroyed and countered.

Fleet tactics 101, never leave a ship alone

A solo "patrol" ship

Remember the word patrol

Patrol does not engage in combat alone especially if outgunned.

It can kill many other things. It can fight fighters as well. It has a fighters bay

You can fit plenty of snub nose fighters there.

You can also run away as needed.

Yes and fighters are gonna hardly damage it. A full ballistic corsair will do damage yes, but it can run if need be.

Idk, a polaris with an idris and hammerhead or two.

Is a deadly fleet.

It all supports eachother easily

You all looked at the polaris like a all rounder and thought of it doing the hammerheads job, the idris's job, and the javelins job.

It is meant to be a small destroyer.

High burst damage. Low survivability in frontal combat.

[fierce arrow]

Capital ship hunter.

[dim narwhal]

Idris has strong defenses, okay offensive capabilities.

@fierce arrow what do you think a small destroyer is bud. It's a capital ships hunter.

But slow, extremely slow
And exposed to torps

Has plenty of blindspots.

Especially the rear.

[fierce arrow]

A normal destroyers job is as a capital ship escort.

[dim narwhal]

Negative, a destroyer is meant to carry an arsenal of weapons to deal massive damage to other ships around it.

@rain carbon javelin is also is large ship, legit a fleet destroyer. Not a small patrol destroyer.

Jav doesn't have PDS either bud.

A corvette, yes, it's what they call it. But it operates more like a small destroyer. Just as the idris acts more like a cruiser than a corvette as they call it.

And yes, they called the idris a corvette recently, as in a few days ago.

Okay I'll gladly call it a submarine, since that is a destroyer in essence but stealth and weaker hull strength

They made it how it's supposed to be role wise.

It fits the role if people have listened to what I and others said since the beginning. That's why we are generally surprised and happy with the results that It won't be broken as you all speculated.

[dim narwhal]

It would have been if others had in their way with having more armor then idris, size 5 weapons, four hitting idris and torps having a bunch of hp.

But in this way it can still damage and destroy an idris if properly supported.

Without being a end all be all.

[fierce arrow]

No. It is meant to destroy incoming munitions and torpedo boats that are attacking capital ships. AKA a Javelin defending a Bengal from a Polaris.

It isn’t a Destroyer either.

[fierce arrow]

Doesn’t it have them on top of its side and bottom turrets.

[frank lily]

CMON POLLY - EAT YOUR CRACKER...!!!!

Cant wait for this bad boi....

[rigid brook]

i mean essentially the ship is glass cannon but the only thing that makes it a cannon is its torps, other then that its guns dont pack a punch and armor is still considered weak since its suppose to be lighter, i mean if it had good guns and good torps it would have weaker armor still allowing it to be glass cannon and sure it would hurt but with weaker armor would still not have the brawling power just the hurting power

[opaque rain]

almost like the glass cannon did become a glass cannon

you just cant have it all

[rigid brook]

but glass cannon part only applies to like what against 5 ships

so its only glass cannon to everything above its weight and just glass for everything below its weight

[opaque rain]

i mean, yeah

it was never meant to be a ship with no shortcomings??

i like the polaris a lot too and the big reason for it is balance

a ship that can destroy everything and not be taken out isn't healthy and polaris isn't that, it's a ship where if you want to be strong you need another ship in which case you're indestructible

because you're a fleet that support each other's shortcomings