industrial-professions

[coarse ember]

i need better gpu, sc beats on my gpu like a wild gorilla fighting

[olive gull]

try switching to Vulkan on the Graphic settings, looks and behaves really good.

[coarse ember]

i do not think changing the render is gonna help a decade old gpu being pinned at constant 99%

[peak snow]

I feel your pain, I'm using a Ryzen 5 3600X for SC... And 32gb of AM4 ram

I'm not sure how I manage to run the game tbh

[analog grotto]

Is there a way to lower the height that an ATLS holds a box in? I can never see where I am trying to place a box when loading the RAFT with one. End up ditching the ATLS for a maxlift every time.

[junior fern]

tap Z for free look

position the ATLS in a good spot, turn on free look, never have box issues again

[junior fern]

I wonder how long would it take to make back the money needed to buy a Prospector

[mild pumice]

depends what ships you have available and mission reputation tbh

I could grind HRTs in Pyro 111k a pop, 10+ an hour, so a couple hours

For industrial, you can rent a RAFT and stack haulage missions, for rookie rank 6x 50k per 25mins or so

[junior fern]

was thinking to do some mining with the Prospector, then once i’ve sent it off to be refined I do salvaging with my Vulture

if I want to do HRTs i’d need to grind, and have a better ship for that

[peak wyvern]

You can also keep mining, you can have many refining jobs at a time

[junior fern]

true

is asteroid or surface mining better? or are they both good

[peak wyvern]

I'm not an expert, but asteroids start right outside the ref stations, and I have had good hunts and bad hunts both there and on moons, but the moons are a little farther.

[mild pumice]

for the prospector the moons might be a better option as more chance to find smaller nodes you can mine

normally a few per cluster at least

[junior fern]

any recommendations for moons?

[mild pumice]

Peeps rave about cellin

[wraith ice]

how is loading the caterpiller?

[ornate halo]

It's an acquired taste. Once you get a rhythm and a method, it's ok, never will be as fast as a C2 tho.

I tend to stack boxes in front of bays, then jump in the ship to align them

[mild pumice]

Optimal way to load the cat is 16 or 24scu boxes, it's fast once you get your method down. I use it for the senior hauling missions as it's ideal for those.

The fully extended ramps really helps

I don't normally load anything in the front unless I need to, sometimes I keep an ATLS there. The 4 main compartment can each hold 6x16 or 4x24 and 2x2scu boxes if you need.

[wraith ice]

so how do you get room to load it properly I know it can be a pain because the atls doesnt have a jet pack

[mild pumice]

I load with the maxlift

I only use the ATLS to move boxes around my hangar

@wraith ice old post, but this still kinda my method, obviously the doors open to the ground now. #industrial-professions message

[wraith ice]

thank you I see how you were doing it now

[wraith ice]

and nice paint as well

[mild pumice]

Thanks!

I'm quite a bit more efficient now

[lavish temple]

it is worth it to change Raft's tractor beam?

[olive gull]

meh, default one can do

[junior fern]

don’t even use the mounted one, use an ATLS and shove it in the airlock to the left of the pilot seat when you’re done

[olive gull]

sometimes the Atlas is not an option, for those cases the RAFT's Tractor beam is quite good, better than doing it by hand at least

[junior fern]

when would ATLS not be an option

[olive gull]

when you have to deliver to a remote outpost and cant summon the darn bot

Atlas sticking to the RAFT grid is NOT yet on the Live

[junior fern]

you don’t need to summon it, you can fit it inside the airlock left of the bridge

and always have it with you

[past fractal]

There's a bug where ATLS cannot remove cargo that is on the RAFT, so that's a thing sometimes too

[magic plinth]

Okay, my biggest find ever lmao

[proud jasper]

jeasus christ

[hollow pewter]

Hey guys, quick question. What’s the most valuable gem I can mine in a ROC, and where is it found?

[junior fern]

Feynmaline, and the highest quantities of it are on Ignis, Fuego, and Pyro 4

practically guaranteed to be Feynmaline at every gem cluster

[dim terrace]

any one interested in the coordinates of 3 quan rocks, pm ofeers will show proof

[night saddle]

is autoloading refined ore to your ship viable or does it void some ores

[spare cloud]

You shouldn't lose anything

[pliant lantern]

Terminus also have many of it

[zenith yew]

Anybody want to take this rock for a price? Can't break it solo.

[night saddle]

depends on the price

[zenith yew]

sent a dm

[grizzled plume]

hi does anyone know any good hauling routes i can fly with my taurus?

[spare cloud]

Trading you mean ? Check uexcorp.space

[mild pumice]

mission lies lol

[scenic ferry]

Hello, where do you recommend mining to get Quantanium?

[lone mountain]

gents i used to play this game alot during 3.22, got a miner and a reclaimer, havent played intill 4.1 and i did some missions and got upto 2m, what should i go for?

should i get a miner or a vulture?

[olive gull]

if you posted on this channel i assume you want your next industrial ship
for 2.6m you can get the Vulture

[lone mountain]

wait really

where

yeah industrial sorry

should have said

[olive gull]

Checkmate or Lorville

[lone mountain]

ty

[sullen sentinel]

Any of the big pyro stations, not just checkmate

[lone mountain]

ill buy it in lorville if its 2.6m there cause im already in stanton

is it worth salvaging abandoned ships at bunkers?

[mild pumice]

Often find good weapons on abandoned ships

[olive gull]

any abandoned ship is worht salvaging, ..... not sure if bunker turrets will fire at you

also...

[lone mountain]

alrighty

[olive gull]

the only component you need to change on the Vulture are the Abrade scrappers, get 2

[lone mountain]

i read somewhere if its shields are down its fine to salvage

okay

[olive gull]

replace the Cinch

Abrade can buy on Everus or Baijini

[mild pumice]

On the VLM you want the middle 2 slots to be abrade as they're the default

[lone mountain]

vlm?

vehicle manager?

[mild pumice]

Yeah

[lone mountain]

ah

i see

thanks gents

[lone mountain]

im using the rest of my time on my starlancer max to get a vulture

[mild pumice]

When you're setting it up if you put them in the wrong place you'll end up with them both on the same side lol

[lone mountain]

lmao what

how

does it even allow you to

do that

💀

[mild pumice]

Yeah because 4 slots

2 each side

[olive gull]

just replace the Cinch modules, its no brain

[mild pumice]

I usually keep 1 cinch with the tractor

[olive gull]

meh

[mild pumice]

But yeah do whatever makes you happy

[lone mountain]

anyways no wipe for 4.2?

just a update?

[olive gull]

will almost for sure wipe all weapons and components from all our ships, just like the fackers did on 4.1.1

[lone mountain]

damn really?

that isnt in ltp?

kinda feel bad for those with the idris beams

cause arent those expensive in game

is it worth taking off the abrade scrapers before patch and putting em in storage or are they only like 12k

[olive gull]

Abrades only cost 20k, coins... wont matter

[lone mountain]

alright yeah not

worth doing that

[spare cloud]

They are, but for a large portion of the players, ship components are often lost. Shouldn't tho

[lone mountain]

oh just lost in db migration

honestly i can see why considering how big the db is i bet

still not okay

[grave scarab]

anybody know how much qt fuel a golem has? and how far i can get with it?

[warm totem]

yep, I just picked up 2 size 5 attritions - they are expensive components!

[topaz heart]

Does anyone know of a good guide for a 3wk newbie that would like to start mining, but doesn't have any ships or any mining gear except the multi tool.

[warm totem]

well caves but I would at least rent a ROC to get started

the ROC will allow you to get some feynaline which is a good money maker especially starting out - will easily pay for the rental and one of your own

then I would move into the prospector or golem - watch you some videos on it!

[haughty kiln]

Is trading in a Caterpillar effective at making money?

[warm totem]

Just a note that I did not lose my guns on my ship that I purchased in game when that patch dropped - hoping for the same thing again. I did lose them in a previous one!

Seeing that there are still untested things in 4.2 that are not enabled even for testing yet, I think it will be awhile before they actually release it.

[topaz heart]

How do I find out how to use one of those?

[warm totem]

again, watch a video or two - its super easy to do and often very chill.

[topaz heart]

Alright, ty.

[sullen sentinel]

It can be a pain to load, but it works well. The separated compartments are nice when you have deliveries to different locations

[haughty kiln]

What about standard trading, such as normal commodities?

Where you can use auto-load and off-load?

[sullen sentinel]

I never did any commodity trading with mine, seemed like more hassle than it's worth, too many issues with auto load/unload.

[haughty kiln]

ah gotcha

It has it's elevator doors in 4.1.1, right? Makes loading an ATLS easier

[sullen sentinel]

Yeah the doors drop to the floor now. Would be nice if you could hold them in the open but not lowered position but c'est la vie

[wraith ice]

ok I need someone doing a video of a full hauling contract with the caterpiller

[warm totem]

is it 15 minute replenish times at admin terminals for stock?

[leaden monolith]

Anyone got a workaround for the Hull C not retracting? Tried in and out of seat, shut down restart, cycled power, lowered landing gear all no good.
Checked to make sure my keybinds were ok as well

Seems bedlogging fixed it. Wen to sleep with it extended woke up with it retracted.

[olive gull]

They turn the Prowler into a mini-cargo ship, with only 32scu LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GanxOY_JYLs

[spare cloud]

It's not an industrial utility, most likely a combat one.
Drop off critical resources on battlefield to assist in battle kind of stuff.

Stuff that's not implemented, but doesn't need to be for the ship to work anyway.

Unlike an Expanse that'd be totally useless if released without refinery, for example.

[olive gull]

better be cheaper than the Cuty Black or else...

[sullen sentinel]

No chance lol. That would be super nice to see though

[spare cloud]

It won't be

[chrome verge]

Refinery when 😥

[spare cloud]

Cheaper than Prowler probably. Like Asgard to Valkyrie.

380-400$

Instead of 440$ for drop ship variant

[spare cloud]

I love how CIG keeps adding stuff for ground combat/support but there's still no damn reason to use ground vehicles over ships

[olive gull]

bet they just needed to pull out something for alien week and 2 or maybe just a dev came up with that crap

and we have the Raylen still on the TODO...

[chrome verge]

And the Galaxy, Orion, Arrastra, Expanse

[spare cloud]

I expect Galaxy next year, but without the Base building and refinery modules.

Expanse will likely be the first refinery ship.

Orion and Arrastra aren't even planned for before 1.0 atm.

[chrome verge]

I remember reading something that the Galaxy would share a lot of the same assets with the Polaris?

[chrome verge]

Arrastran't

[spare cloud]

Not really, that's the Perseus and it's also the reason why it was moved before the Galaxy instead of Polaris > Galaxy > Perseus that we had planned before

Galaxy shares more assets with the Zeus, more civilian looks

[chrome verge]

Dorito

[warm totem]

well maybe the cargo elevator would work if I could offload this human, lol - how the heck did he get in there? I tried to transfer him back up but it say's hes blocking it so I can't save him - hahahaha

[olive gull]

a better question would be how the heck did he got out of the cage...

[warm totem]

either way its really screwing up my delivery now -

[olive gull]

assuming you are on a station hangar... did you tried the other terminal?

[warm totem]

No i am at an outpost - no choice here but to walk away and swap servers I guess

[olive gull]

sad

[lone mountain]

commodity trading still worth it?

[mild pumice]

There's decent routes, particularly Pyro to Stanton or Pyro outposts but ofc the extra risk associated. Manual loading is recommend, there's occasionally bugs with auto loading, particularly the Hull C. Just don't invest all your credits at once lol.

You might prefer hauling missions for risk free transport, financial risk that is...

[lone mountain]

er i dont want to do those long routes

[glass marsh]

Can i get into mining fairly easy as a new player?

seeing a bunch about renting a ROC to do so or having a prospector being the only viable ways

[chrome verge]

ROC will get you started, no problem. Can rent it and a ship to cart it around fairly cheaply

[spiral tartan]

question

[rain tinsel]

Is anyone using the https://virpil-controls.us.com/vpc-vmax-prime-throttle.html for industry related flying?

[spiral tartan]

i'm working on a hauler mission and it wants me to pick freight from were i'm located at then move it to another but when i go to the elevator to get the freight it does not show anythin

[urban sentinel]

Anyone here stuff a golem in an asgard for mining with a friend? ive used the asgard as a pseudo carrier with a fury for bounties but we are thinking of using it as an escort for mining. Just dont know how realistic it is with like exiting/entering the asgard.

[chrome verge]

Most of the escorting you need is forward scanning and sweeping for griefers around refineries

Campers and opportunists around POIs will be the most frequent threat

[urban sentinel]

ik that. Just curious if the golem fits

[chrome verge]

Oh. No idea

[hollow pewter]

Is there anything on Bloom I can mine FPS?

[rain tinsel]

go look

half the thing is exploration

[left ore]

!fit

[jolly dagger]

Can it fit?

Please see title linked Google Sheet for capital ship fitment indexes.

Credit to RubenSaurus

[left ore]

I guess the Golem isn’t on the list.

[warm totem]

maybe in a cave?

[peak snow]

Aight, time to bite the bullet... I need to start mining Quantanium, and a lot of it... I have a Prospector at my disposal and nothing else. Could somebody give me a crash course on mining Quant?

[lone mountain]

your allowed to scrape ships that were abandoned?

if so how can u tell its abandoned?

[warm totem]

boy, I'll tell ya my first time in awhile using my C2 in the game to run a commodity run or two has ended in me losing time and money. The state of hauling commodities around is horrible, from long wait times loading to places that have no demand, etc. even using uexcorp I managed to just get whooped tonight. I made more looting derelict outposts, and pulling guns off downed ships

[lone mountain]

yeah not worth it anymore lmao

[peak snow]

Anything is "abandoned" once ya start scraping lol

[warm totem]

for sure - I am convinved none of the devs actually do any hauling! The rules have changed and not for the good of the game as far as I can tell. I posted earlier how I managed to send a "human" down the cargo elevator, well that borked the rest of load, everything I put on the elevator disappeared.

[lone mountain]

i dont wanna get a crime stat anari

[peak snow]

As a salvage veteran, I go for stuff that's obviously damaged first, then if I find an intact one I'll ask in global

If it's sitting with shields down it's free game imo

[lone mountain]

how do u see if its shields are down?

and what are good spots to salvage?

cause im scraping currently

[peak snow]

Target it

[lone mountain]

yeah

[peak snow]

Tbh, Pyro POIs are often good salvage spots if you're willing to risk it

[lone mountain]

wanna stay in stanton cause im close to orison

[peak snow]

Hmm. Try the PAFs or OLPs maybe then

[lone mountain]

okay

anyways how do u see if its shields are down

[warm totem]

I would head off to some of the POI on the moons you'll come across ships out there

[peak snow]

Target lock the ship, and you'll see on your MFD

Most folks won't target salvagers, but you can encounter a hostile player

If that happens, just boost away in a straight line tbh. Use countermeasures as you need, and once you're at max boost speed swap to NAV and get outta there

But it's considered common courtesy to leave salvagers alone for the most part

[lone mountain]

scanning says shields are down but when i try and scrape it it says target shielded

[peak snow]

Just target lock it, if it has the funny barrier looking things around it on your hud or mfd then it's shielded

[lone mountain]

i did

it has what looks like shield barriers up but scans says it doesnt

[peak snow]

Don't trust scanning for component activity tbh, its buggy at best

[lone mountain]

i see.

ill go to outposts at hurston

[peak snow]

👍

[lone mountain]

so i guess that outpost just didnt like me

and immediately started killing me

tresspassing ig

[peak snow]

Ope yeah, they get angry sometimes

Try the PAFs on Aberdeen

[lofty drift]

aaro halo

gives me one hell of a headache

my eyes cant handle it for some reason

[lone mountain]

what are those?

pafs

i only used to play during 3.22 lmao

[peak snow]

Ah they're these sites that are used to align a big fuckass laser, which you can shoot to open up a hole with rare gems inside

[lone mountain]

good to know im not the only one who uses fuckass laser

are they on the ground or in the sky?

and will i get shot at?

[peak snow]

Since they're hotspots for both PvP and PvE, there's lots of abandoned ships there

[lone mountain]

cause i went to one and my ship yelled at me for a contact

[peak snow]

Probably a red player, sometimes there's NPC ships up near the laser platform (OLP)

[lone mountain]

hope its not a murder hobo

so many of them are now

[peak snow]

Other than that there's only ever Nine Tails on the ground

[lone mountain]

i see

[lofty drift]

my mole isnt cracking rocks and is underpowered for some fucking reason

this happened earlier with a 30k asteroid

i think its a bug but i have no idea whats going on

[analog grotto]

33% resistance is pretty high.
General formula is (power * 5)*(1-resistance)

[lofty drift]

so my loadout wouldnt be able to crack it?

[analog grotto]

Your setup could break a ~42k mass rock @ 0 resistance

With 33% and low instability, you'll top out at around 29k

What gadget did you put on the rock?

[lofty drift]

boremax

it had a really high instability

[lone mountain]

damn, all the ships i find have their shields on

[analog grotto]

High instability is just a fact of life for Quantanium.
A Sabir would likely make that mineable for you but you would have to roll the dice with the instability

[lone mountain]

how do you deal with ships with their shields on?

[peak snow]

Shoot em till they're soft dead lol

[lone mountain]

cs?

cause im in stanton

[peak snow]

Only if they press charges, but even then it'll be a CS2 at most which you can pay off

[lone mountain]

oh

wait what

how do u tell if something is softdeathed

[lofty drift]

thank you, i am new to the mole

[wary hare]

Haulers - What ship mounted tractor beam do you prefer? Is there much difference? I'm currently using the Suregrip S2 that comes stock on the Zeus CL but I was wondering if there's any sense in upgrading?

[junior fern]

I prefer fitting an ATLS in there somewhere

like on the RAFT, you can manage to jam the ATLS into the airlock left of the bridge

[wary hare]

Ive really tried to like the ATLS man but its sooooo fucking jittery and janky

[peak snow]

It'll often be on fire or sparking, visibly damaged

It might have bits broken off

You can also scrape hard deathed ships but soft does just fine

[olive gull]

RAFT's Tractor beam is one of the bests i've tested.

[toxic temple]

Is there any way to tell what you grabbed with the Raft Tractor beam? For other beams it tells you what you grabbed, raft stays blank.

[olive gull]

are you sure?
beacuse mines do show the label, the color may not help with visibility but its there

[toxic temple]

Yeah pretty sure it works on at least 2 other ships with tractor beams i tried, but Raft only shows the outline, no size or stats at all

[long frost]

Are there caves in pyro where you can hand mine janalite?

[spare cloud]

Any sand cave

[long frost]

Oh okay thanks! And is there a site where I can check the amount of caves or probability of spawning it? I tried regolith but I couldn't find any info

[spare cloud]

verseguide.com has the locations of every cave, but not sure it lists what type it is exactly

[long frost]

That works for me, awesome! Don't mind some actual exploring

[frigid jetty]

Any EU players want to tag along with some group salvaging? (So long as servers aren't faulty)
Getting going in 30 mins, send me a DM if interested (looking for group channel seems to only attract combat peeps sorry if not allowed here)

[spare cloud]

Use #1359583196521435400 #looking-for-session to play with people

Fuck wrong channel

#looking-for-session

[lyric moon]

Hey guys, just rented a Prospector for a day to try out mining game. My first run netted me a cool 6k credits. Yeah, i would have earned more if i gathered a few handguns and sold them. Any advice on how to improve my yield. Now keep in mind the ship is rented so i can't change the loadout.

[olive gull]

check this, vid is a few months old, but nothing had really changed since then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W56X1GjY-s

[lyric moon]

TNX

[wary hare]

I just wish you could mount the ATLS's tractor beam to ships, I love the way it works but I had operating the ATLS lol

[olive gull]

Atlas is faster once you get the hand to its ways, but there may be occasions where Atlas is not an option, having a onboard tractor beam is really handy, is that or doing the job by hand.

[olive gull]

@dusk topaz o/'

doing Cargo mission on your Cutty is easy and profitable

• go to Seraphin Station, set your spawn point there.
• open the Cargo (Hauling) missions

• you may need to do a training mission if its your first time

• afterwards, look for missions paying exactly $50k

there will be 6 missions, 6x50 = $300k thats what you will gain

they all require you to grab cargo from Seraphin and deliver to the planet's airport

easy

[dusk topaz]

well

my cutlass can only carry 12 scu on grid and 24 with off grid and 28 if i squeeze them in

[olive gull]

once done, and on the airport, you will get a mission paying $75k to grab boxes and deliver to Seraphin, the cycle will re-start

[olive gull]

that's why i rather choose the C1 spirit over the Cutlass, C1 can carry up to 114 scu

just take less missions

[dusk topaz]

i heard u can get a free one from the alien man

[olive gull]

yes... but thats a long and painfull road...

[dusk topaz]

oh

[olive gull]

no such thing as free

[dusk topaz]

well what about Bunker running or Bounty hunting?

Cutlass is built for combat right?

[olive gull]

less pay but more fun, go for it

[dusk topaz]

well i wanna take the fun road

[olive gull]

.... kinda.....

[dusk topaz]

Cargo Hauling is fun but not as fun as shooting people in bunkers or watching a MSR explode into a million pieces

[olive gull]

give Attritions to your Cutlass, all the weapons

[dusk topaz]

yikes attirtions are expensive

[olive gull]

you can do the bunker naked wih only a pistol, ha i used to do that...
looting everything i need from the corpses

[dusk topaz]

oh yeah i also have a dragonfly

[olive gull]

useful, some bunker turrets will shoot you from distance when you approach;

land and go in the bike

[dusk topaz]

and my cutlass also has a medbay in the back

[olive gull]

then is the Cutlass Red...

that's not suit for combat...

well.. you can do first levels of Bounty Hunting

then use the Titan

and that explains the lack of cargo, Cutlass Black has more cargo

[dusk topaz]

titan has less dps and health

the only diff in combat vs the black is that red has no missles and no turret but i run solo anyway

and the red actually has 5000 more hp

[olive gull]

full attritions if you can afford them
sometimes you can find abandoned ships having them,
pull the weapons out of it using your tractor beam, and you will be able to put them on your ship;

nothing better than free weapons

[dusk topaz]

rn i only have 30k so no but i have full gear to do bunker running, ill load up my dragonfly

maybe ill find a dead hornet or smt

thanks

[olive gull]

anytime

[olive gull]

if you are doing bunkers, buy a 1 scu box from the Cargo area of any station
take the box to the bunker's entry and down the elevator
is to put inside all and any loot you find
besides any gear you need
you want Weapons and Heavy armors, those are sold good

[dusk topaz]

alright i will, also which factions pays the best? Foxwell, Eckhart or MT Protection?

[olive gull]

they are kinda the same on stanton, theyll pay more when you rise up your rep with them

[olive gull]

Bunker missions always say on the title: Protect or Defend Something

[dusk topaz]

ik ik

[mossy arch]

This has probably already been answered but idk what to search sorry: I refined a yield of 25.62 quantanium, but after sending it to my inventory I have 27 SCU. Do I actually have that or am I being tricked?

[mild pumice]

Yeah you do, it round up to the nearest container size

Although I'd have expected 26, not 27 but don't argue lol. Free shit

[mossy arch]

Yeah, just don't want to accidentally scam someone when I set up a sell ad

[hollow pewter]

Anyone know where I can refuel on terminus?

[spare cloud]

Ruin station.
If there's an outpost that can refuel, it'll have "Landing Services" on the starmap when you click on it.

[hollow pewter]

Oh nice thanks!

[floral lichen]

Wait wait wait wait wait. Are you saying I’ve been dragging shit to my razor or titan and getting shot to bits in the process and barely escaping with my life, limbs, and with a huge haul of gear…. When I could just store it in a container at the elevator on the OLP?

[lone mountain]

can you do that to sell all of the loot at once?

[olive gull]

yeah... xD

[olive gull]

yes you can!

[lone mountain]

swagggg

wait where

@olive gull

[olive gull]

?

[lone mountain]

where do u sell it

cargo center?

[olive gull]

at an store who sells both armor and weapons, Everus has one, Seraphin too, Baijini doesnt sadly

[lone mountain]

neat

[warm totem]

with the cost of size 5 attritions - yeah free is super nice!

[onyx bay]

guys what mission actually works for the Hull C experience rank

[hardy current]

anyone here do big mining fleet stuff?

[rich berry]

Its a gamble, and its server dependent. If the server is strugling, i would not try.

[dusk topaz]

I got a Cutlass Red, i got a F7C Horner mk2, now what do I buy?

[spare cloud]

#ccu-and-fleet-advice

[jovial matrix]

now you play the game

[dusk topaz]

IN GAME

[spare cloud]

Yeah ? Still, #ccu-and-fleet-advice

[lyric moon]

I mined a few SCU of Quantanium between several prospector runs. I think alltogether there's between 6 and 8 units. I was gonna just unload it with all the rest, but i see people selling the stuff on marketplace. So, should i stockpile it and sell it to the players instead? Why is Quantanium in demand right now?

Also btw, is there a way to repackage refinery products? I have like 14 different orders of stuff like gold and Taranite. Mostly stuff like 4.3 SCUs and the like, is it possible to add up all those chunks below 1 scu into boxes together?

[spare cloud]

It's used to trade for Polaris bits with Wikelo

Needs 24 SCUs for one bit.

Total 50 bits for a Polaris, so 1200 Quantanium

[rich berry]

Just keep in mind when the new patch comes kn you will lose all that

[lyric moon]

There's no wipe planned for this patch afaik

[spare cloud]

Correct, but cargo and refinery orders are lost with every patch

[lyric moon]

Oh, what about money?

[spare cloud]

No

[lyric moon]

Patch is in like, a week right?

[spare cloud]

They'll rush it cause they need it for the Alien week which starts today, in 90 mins

[lyric moon]

Wait, are you saying patch will be in 90 minutes?/

[spare cloud]

Well, there's no in game event, but there's a new Prowler variant. So they'll have to release it before the next 7 days to be in time with the alien week.

[spare cloud]

No, more like "they have 7d to release it starting from in 90mins"

[lyric moon]

Hopefully they are gonna give us a heads up or something.

[spare cloud]

Keep an eye on #sc-patch-notes . When you see a Release Candidate (RC), it's coming in a couple hours/days.

[lyric moon]

Thanks, i guess i'll just keep mining for a day or two, I'm using a rented prospector atm, and i also need to rent a Cutlass to move the cargo, so i'm trying to be efficient with it.

[spare cloud]

That's the way

[lyric moon]

24 hours rented cutlass could probably move a weeks worth of mined material easily. So i'm trying to squeeze as many hauls in there as i can before i rent that cutty.

[dawn grove]

What’s the best cargo ship in game is it the Taurus or is there something better

For medium cargo. I know there is just a large jump from the 100+ SCU to like 500scu

[spare cloud]

RAFT

[crude thunder]

RAFT would definitely be in the running now as long as your delivery routes aren't through a rough neighborhood. Its a lot of easy to load cargo for the price

Taurus is still a great all-arounder

[lone mountain]

sucks the beam for it is kinda broken

https://upload.superintendent.me/u/9Dec7m.png
ive been playing fuck fuck games with my vulture for the past 30 minutes trying to get it so both abrades will be equipped at the same time, now there on the same level and the ship fucking changes what one it uses so its offset, any idea how to fix this?

[crude thunder]

either Alt + A or Alt+S to turn one or the other off.. right click the mouse to change the one that is online, and then alt+whatever to turn the other back on and you should be good

[lone mountain]

what

alt a and s only turn on and off my right arm

[olive gull]

then try right click

[crude thunder]

yeah you turn off an arm, then right click to change the one that is online, then turn that other arm back on to get them both on the same cycle

[lone mountain]

ty

[past fractal]

I vote the Asgard as best all rounder cargo ship

[lone mountain]

that fixed it

[crude thunder]

I wish they would number the ports in the mobiglass

[olive gull]

you have the controls hints on the right side of screen when entering salvaging mode

[past fractal]

It can easily carry over 300 SCU, has decent guns, and with a few upgrades, decent shielding too

[olive gull]

Second +

[past fractal]

My record so far is 402 SCU

but it's uh, very janky

[olive gull]

wait what?? record was 300 lasttime i checked

[past fractal]

You can hang 32's out the side doors if you take your time

[olive gull]

402 ? darn ! Congratz !

[warm totem]

make it werk!

[past fractal]

To be fair, it took two people working together to lock it all into place too

[lone mountain]

just evaed to get a prospector ore pods off its hull so i can finish scraping it

thats super cool

[spice shell]

Stuff like that is why I love this game. It's the kind of sim I appreciate.

[lone mountain]

yeah

[tight finch]

im doing some hauling, ive made the mistake of buying 2 32scu boxes of nitrogen for my asgard, but I cant get them up the cargo elevator at hurl4

what do I do

any advice would be greatly appreciated

[olive gull]

if you already have the boxes down your hangar in HUR-L4, go to the admin terminal and sell the boxes there

or... did you wanted to take them to sell somewere else?

you will need a big hangar for that, meaning calling a big ship like a Hercules

[tight finch]

i only have a cutty black and a bike, the asgard was *"Borrowed" * from pyro

guess im cooked lol

[olive gull]

sell the boxes there to get part of your money back

[tight finch]

ok ok I will, ty

[tight finch]

dont think I can

[olive gull]

no demand?

[tight finch]

nope lol

[olive gull]

just wait about 15 mins, demand will update

[tight finch]

been waiting on demand all day, tried to run the explosive fuel in pyro and absolutely nothing lmao

but

i will try

[olive gull]

do you know about the multi-300k cargo missions?

[tight finch]

no? what sthat

[olive gull]

• go to Crusader or Arcorp
• bring your ship to the station (Seraphin or Baijini)
• look for Hauling missions
• if its your very first hauling time, you may need to do a 'trial' mission, after completing you can:
• look for missions paying exactly $50k, there will be 6 of them, so 6 x 50 = $300k in total
• take all the missions you can, its about 90 scus, you may have to do some magic to fit them in the Cutty, but i believe its doable
• or just take less missions, they say how many scus to carry, do the math
• all missions are to deliver at same location, down on the planet on the airport

you can easily do a $300k run in half hour or so, maybe 40 mins depending on hangar queques..

i think Microtec also has this missions

[urban sentinel]

How do people feel about the Zeus cl for cargo - I'm looking at it rn as an upgrade to my spirit as I feel limited with the 64 capacity, but still want a mounted tractor beam turret. Mostly do hauling contracts

[olive gull]

in paper, the C1 has 64 scus cap, that's true, but...

in reality, you can fit up to 114 scus in the C1 Spirit

if you want a better cargo ship than the C1, i would suggest the RAFT

[analog grotto]

I don't know how people load and unload 90 SCUs in 1SCU and 2SCU containers like those rookie contracts use in 30 minutes.

Last time I tried to to do the Baijini -> Riker spam, it took me ~hour per trip. I must just be slow.

Of course that was also with the old RAFT. New RAFT without the cargo hooks might be easier/faster now.

[olive gull]

we dont do the boxes by hand, we use either the ship's tractor beam or the Atlas to do the loading

using C1's onboard tractor i can fill it 114 scus in about 15 mins

using the Atlas i can fill up the RAFT in 10-12 mins

[analog grotto]

ATLS slows me down. Always puts boxes in the wrong spot for me when using third person and can't see shit in first person because the box is in the way. 🤷
Will try again with the RAFTs tractor beam now, but I've been running the Microtech Member loop in the same time it took me to run the Arccorp rookie loop previously.

[lone mountain]

does the raft have a tractor thats not terrible?

[olive gull]

its just a matter of practice and determination..
i also did not liked the Atlas at all, made a few tries and said, meh..
but then i decided to really give i a try
and i like it, you gain a few mins compared with the ship's beam

[olive gull]

yes it does

[lone mountain]

terrific

i know that theres a bug where it makes it want to pick up the cargo elevator itself

[olive gull]

hahah yes, but that's common even to the Atlas

[lone mountain]

yeah

well wait the atls doesnt do that often

cutty does it all the time

[urban sentinel]

My c1 is an lti referral lol, I can't melt it, only upgrade. Not that I'm complaining, it's been an amazing ship for the 1 year I've had it, just want some more space. How do you fit 114? Just put the boxes in without having them snap?

[olive gull]

snap all boxes you can, then put boxes in the middle un-snapped, also on the 'room' between the gate and the ramp door
you wont be able to walk away, but you have the onboard tractor beam to clean the way when you be unloading

[misty radish]

If the Prowler Pee Uuu had the S5s back and the same maneuverability as the stock Prowler I'd buy it in a heartbeat despite the low cargo. It'd be a fun, niche ship.

[urban sentinel]

I'll give it a shot. I've had problems with boxes I've just tossed in ships before (big boom) so I typically don't like to do that but let's see if they have fixed it

[torn tinsel]

Hey guys 🙂
Following 2 Problems: My Cargo on my Prospector is 0/0 SCU - bags are attached (at least visually) but even when i suck up some rock, it says 0/0...
2nd Problem: i can't equip my Hofstede Laser+Module. The Slot is empty, but when i equip and apply it just stays empty... I even crashed and Reclaimed my Ship on purpose to see if that fixes anything - but no, its completely cooked for whatever reason

[olive gull]

you may need to reclaim your ship:

• when on your hangar: hit the self destruct and run!
• claim back the ship.

[olive gull]

yes they fixed that to a point, but i never had that issue on my C1

[rich berry]

After that, just break and mine some rock. If even that does fix it, destroy the ship, change shards and THEN claim it.

[verbal lintel]

is a 35% quant rock decent?

[rich berry]

Depends on total size, but if you can break it, why not?

[verbal lintel]

Oh no im in a vulture, was just gonna see if a miner in global chat would pay for the location lol

[rich berry]

Just use the gadget to concentrate the ores

Whats the total scu for the rock

[verbal lintel]

Dont think general scan is telling me that

I see ore %'s, instability, and power transfer

[rich berry]

Rock weight

Or size or somethig like that

[verbal lintel]

Its bigger than my vulture

[rich berry]

They probably will be interested

[verbal lintel]

No biters in global, oh well

[rich berry]

Dam

[dusk topaz]

I wanna take a break from combat since its impossible with the current state of the servers, all I have is an Avenger, Cutlass Red and a F7C Hornet MK2, what's a good profession that doesn't involve combat and makes decent money? And what's a good ship for it?

[torn tinsel]

Will try that 😅

[rich berry]

Hopefully it will help you. Worse case the new patch drops and the issue is sorted anyway

[orchid void]

You can rent a Taurus and stack some smaller hauling missions

Or you can rent a prospector and try to quantanium mine, sell the refined SCU to players, market price can easily reach 100k per SCU

Not the easiest to mine quant in a prospector though

[dusk topaz]

Im not mining unstable shit again that stuff blew up the second we landed

[orchid void]

Quantanium gives you 25minutes from when you scoop the first bit up. As long as you know it you should be fine

[torn tinsel]

well... it didnt work. I let the ship self drestruct, changed shard, claimed it and i still can't even equip a god damn laser... without laser i can't tell if my cargo problem is solved...

[rich berry]

Dam

[torn tinsel]

okay, i think i got it... turned out it was the Laser all along (for whatever reason)

since i couldnt equip it via the Mobi, i called the laser through the freight elevator and mounted it manually - now the laser is correctly attached and the ship shows its 32 SCU

[rich berry]

Nice

[torn tinsel]

I'd really like to have the Mole bags on my ship, but for that i'd need a salvage ship first to get the Mole Mission or Some1 with a mole that wouldn't mind to let me gut theirs xD

[spare cloud]

Or just buy MOLE bags in a refinery

[torn tinsel]

really? is it that simple now?

[spare cloud]

Yeah

[torn tinsel]

seems like not every refinery got those

[spare cloud]

Could be. Check !itemfinder ⬇️

[jolly dagger]

Universal Item Finder

Use the website to search for any item (and where to obtain them) in-game.

[torn tinsel]

do you know the exact name of the pod by any chance? or did they nerf them to 8 SCU?

nvm... i was blinded by the volume, not the capacity... xD

[proud jasper]

Is cargo working RN?

[warm totem]

The whole game works, just maybe not the way you intended or even wanted it to - is the best answer I can give you. Missions are the most reliable, you'll fight long auto load times OR manually you'll fight the cargo elevator - either way, you'll have fun and enjoy winning or losing time & money in game. I would advise everyone to team up with someone to help break up the inevitable joy and pain this game brings to you. As we all know, the win is always so good.

[brittle snow]

any idea why I can't scan this rock (or the other +25 rocks) that I found?

[past fractal]

It's purple

Scoop it

But honestly, idk, sounds like a bug

[tall karma]

How much does a single unit of janalite sell for? UEX and such are only showing 1SCU which I'm not even sure is accurate.

[craggy tapir]

1 gem is 1/1000 of a scu

So janalite price/1000

1scu of janalite is 15,255,700 at ruin

So 1 janalite gem is 15,255Uec

[jagged raft]

You could also sell it to players. I've seen prices from 1m per to like 65k. Unsure where that normalized.

[lone mountain]

anybody know anything about the arrastra? like when its coming out and stuff

cause that spacestation in the background looks sickkk

[past fractal]

Only CIG themselves would have any information on it. No work on it has been listed at all.

[lone mountain]

i see

thanks

[feral crane]

Anyone else run into the very annoying issue of the station not paying you after delivering the cargo? I loaded up my cargo, went to HUR-L1, went to the cargo station to sell my stuff, got it all ready, went back to my ship to unload and once I was done and sent everything down the loft they didn’t pay me and it said I still needed to load my cargo onto the loading dock (that same cargo the the station had now taken) and didn’t payroll

What did I do wrong

[olive gull]

• you unload your cargo to the local inventory
• then go to the terminal to sell

less prone to bugs this way

[feral crane]

Wdym to the local inventory

Oh wait unload then go sell?

Damn alr

RIP 500k

313k left

And a dream

[dusk topaz]

Mining vs Salvaging?

actually, Prospecter vs Fortune?

[lone mountain]

both are cool, honestly i think mining makes more

[past fractal]

The Fortune isn't a fair comparison... the prospector should be compared to the vulture.

From there, vulture is about 400k every 45 minutes.

Prospector varies wildly from as little as 3k an hour to well over 3 mil an hour, depending on luck, skill, and persistence

[north quiver]

During the refinement process where its listed "To do" and "Done" is that measuring in SCU or cSCU?

[lone mountain]

think cscu

[hazy blaze]

Anyone know off the top of their head what the max rock sizes are for the golem vs the prospector?

[dusk topaz]

Fortune vs Vulture

[mild pumice]

With salvaging as slow as it is now it just makes the fortune with its single scraper a pain tbh. Vulture all the way

[plain seal]

Hey, how do you access the caterpillar left tractor beam?

[mild pumice]

station behind the co-pilot seat I think (might be downstairs)

[dawn grove]

Can the MOLE be used for salvage? Like can you swap out the mining laser for the salvage?

[quick beacon]

It cannot

[sharp swift]

No

[dawn grove]

What’s the best ship for salvage other than the reclaimer. That ship is way to big and annoying

[quick beacon]

The only other 2 right now are the vulture and fortune (both solo)

[dawn grove]

Is there good money in salvage?

[sharp swift]

Good, easy money

simple loop

[quick beacon]

It's okay but consistant money

[dawn grove]

Ok GGs thank you guys

[sharp swift]

Starter salvage ship is inc as well, so the cost to enter the loop will be much lower

[dawn grove]

Is there any idea of when they will allow you to swap the mining heads for salvaging heads?

[quick beacon]

I don't think that is a planned change, the processes are completely different

[sharp swift]

Never

[dawn grove]

That sucks because the mining ships are so much better but it seems like a much harder process in terms of finding ore to mine.

That’s actually worth the money

[quick beacon]

They are going to do a revamp of the whole salvage game loop and there will be additional salvage ships released.

[sharp swift]

Both loops have their ups and down

[spice shell]

Golem I think goes up to 30-32k with using all tools available to you. Not sure about the prospector.

[lone mountain]

when?

also can u put mole bags on the prospector

[quick beacon]

Only CIG knows

[quick beacon]

Used to be able too, not sure if it is still a thing

[lone mountain]

damn alright

where is the best place to mine in stanton?

cellin?

cause im kinda tired of doing orbital shit

[pastel venture]

Does HUR-L3 have a cargo deck compatible with Hull C trading?

[quick beacon]

It does not

[plain seal]

Yes you still can but you need to redo it every time so remember to remove them

[lone mountain]

wow ive had my same prospector for 4 missions and 2 atmosphere entrys and its getting scuffed

neat

[frosty sentinel]

Various places have different benefits, there is no one best place. All places typically have a “higher” chances of 1-2 high tier type of mineables
Lyria, Cellin, and Daymar are typically popular, but you can mine at various other areas and still have success.

My personal favorite is Lyria.

Arc L2 to refine, Lyria to mine, A18 to sell.

[floral lichen]

I heard the vulture lets you put boxes in the back and you can cheese the rmc limit. is that true?

[crude thunder]

Vulture lets you do what feels like an illegal amount of cheese

[lone mountain]

vulture fuckery is peak

so

[crude thunder]

12 scu cargo, 13 more in the buffer, another 6 off grid next to the 12 figure you can get another 4-5 easly in front of those stacks... I recall there was a way before of pretending to print a box only for it to get blocked allowing for 1 more box so like 36 easy... more if you're crazy

[frosty sentinel]

Sits it fits with vulture and you can do around 22-24 SCU in the back + an additional 13 in the buffer.

[crude thunder]

and you still have head room above the cargo to put some s1 guns or some small thing you pluck off ships

[lone mountain]

im scanning like crazy on daymar and i cant find any rocks

[frosty sentinel]

You push it to that point tho u risk going boom.
And also remember selling components and guns still only gives like 10 percent of what the guns are worth

[floral lichen]

i don't know how vulture stuff works (i know how to scrape), can you elucidate?

[frosty sentinel]

How long have u been scanning?

[crude thunder]

I only collect ones to give to org mates or use for upgrades.. selling comps/guns has been ruined

[frosty sentinel]

Do u know about the filler stations on Savage ships?

[floral lichen]

no sirree

[lone mountain]

found a big fuck off worm

so

guess i found something

lmao

[frosty sentinel]

Wait what?

[lone mountain]

what else do u want me to say

worm

from ground

fuckin around

shot it

now its dead

found beradom

[frosty sentinel]

Ok so basically salvage ships have a physical storage, and then what we call the filler station, basically a non physical storage on the ship.

As you scrape/disintegrate, that fills up. Once full, you empty that into your cargo area.

[floral lichen]

oh does it print like the reclaimer?

[lone mountain]

so do u get the same materials as in space on ground or what

yeah

[frosty sentinel]

The filler station lets you salvage a certain amount of SCU (13 for vulture and 240 for reclaimer) before you need to exit the pilot seat and empty it

[frosty sentinel]

Yes, it works exactly like the reclaimer, just on a much smaller scale

[floral lichen]

you're the best, thanks. I know what to do now 😎

[frosty sentinel]

Way u said huge worm made me think Apex Valkkar lol. Which shouldn’t be possible rn. Guess u found a juvenile lol.

[lone mountain]

oh right

yeah

fair

[frosty sentinel]

Ship mining? Yes.

[lone mountain]

ok cool

whats the advatnages of having ur ship in vtol mode

[crude thunder]

better thrust for vertical takeoff or maintaining altitude

some ships are heavy and physics requires the engines to point downward Like the raft

[frosty sentinel]

All ships have the vtol mode. Most ships don’t have actual VTOL tho.
So unless ur in one, nothing.

It gives you more thrust pointed towards the ground, allowing for better atmospheric flight and better vertical acceleration at a 0 degree attitude.

ATM they aren’t required to be used on ship to take off or land.

[lone mountain]

i have it on my prospector cause im at like a 30 degree angle from the ground

actually handles better

[frosty sentinel]

It’s useful in the prospector

[lone mountain]

cant wait for rsi astra ngl

gonna be 5 years but we ball

[crude thunder]

in 4.1 and earlier I had to turn on vtol to get the RAFT up, in 4.1.1 it seemed to not be the case. But they're doing more work on atmospherics so eventually you'll need it

[frosty sentinel]

Prospector, all Cutlasses, Connies, Raft, Mole, MPUV (I think), Idris, and Reclaimer have them.

[lone mountain]

was not expecting cutty to have that

[frosty sentinel]

Might be forgetting a couple in there. But those are the big names

[crude thunder]

C1, Intrepid, maybe Vulture i think...

[frosty sentinel]

The main thrusters on the Cutty literally fully rotate

[lone mountain]

ok thats sick cause ive never seen it do that and cutty thrusters are sick

[frosty sentinel]

Vulture does not.
But yeah i forgot the crusader ships.
Spirits, Intrepid, and Hercs

Those have them

[lone mountain]

hofsted is the best laser right?

[crude thunder]

Vulture has 4 vtols but they're built into the body so they dont articulate

[lone mountain]

i need to get with a mole crew because dayum im finding rocks that are like 100k in value and i cant break it

cause

prospector

should i go to pafs for abandoned vehicles and there orbiting stations or should i just stay to gilly mission sites for doing abandoned vehicles?

[warm totem]

live a little, do both!

[sharp swift]

Hofstede is the best laser for beginners. Helix has more power but significantly shorter range

[lone mountain]

would helix help me break rocks that are like 30/50 scu total?

[sharp swift]

Helix gives you the best chance at cracking the biggest rocks, yes. But you need to pay a lot of attention to the small cracks when it's just above 10SCU (and can't scoop yet), since Helix will overcharge it very quickly and easily if you aren't careful. You should be at min power and max range away then slowly creep forward

[lone mountain]

damn alright

[sharp swift]

Helix with reiger and focus modules is a good simple combo, until you feel froggy and want to mess around with active modules. Don't forget you can use gadgets as well, which is also a strong tool to keep in your repertoire

[tall karma]

Can a rented mole crack much? Found a couple quant rocks today and they were all "impossible" with 2 of us trying to crack them

[sharp swift]

Rented means you can't swap lasers or add modules, right?

[tall karma]

Right

[sharp swift]

According to Regolith...a stock mole's power is 7200 max pwr

[tall karma]

You could swap manually, but that's pricey

[sharp swift]

My mole has a power of 12,300

so I'd say it could probably tackle 30k and under rocks with two lasers

[tall karma]

Would a pair of prospectors be greater than a single mole with 2 miners?

[olive gull]

i think so, yeah

[sharp swift]

multi-ships increases the instability, and I'm pretty sure the size decrease is not good either

[tall karma]

I have a prospector, and could afford to buy my bud one for a lot less than buying a mole and we'd both be able to scout.

I noticed today when a 2nd laser joined from my mole the instability also went up

[sharp swift]

a solo prospector w/ a helix and some mods can get to 3,780 power...so two prospectors with the ability to mod/change stuff up is probably better

[sharp swift]

yeah, lasers from multiple ships increases instability. but that is counterable with gadgets

to some degree

[lone mountain]

cant gadgets get every rock down to breakable?

[sharp swift]

There are monster rocks out there, too big to break alone

[tall karma]

I have very little interest in mining, but will need to take the plunge to build a Polaris. If only my quant hunting option was still available

[sharp swift]

You can always reach out to a mining org to see if they have someone selling quant

[tall karma]

So today we just tried our hand for a good 2 hours and came up empty using a rented mole. Was pretty frustrating

Yeah, at 125k / SCU, I'd need to do a ton of cash grinding.

That's 150mil

[sharp swift]

Yeah, it's not ideal...but you may have a reliable gameloop for generating income, while mining is hit or miss

[tall karma]

Ehh, I can make like 2mil/hr. Not sure how many hours it will take to farm up 1200scu of quant.

[sharp swift]

More hours than your 2mil/hr loop, I can guarantee that

[tall karma]

Blah. If it was still found on ERTs like it was in 4.1 from 2-20scu per ship, it'd be fun and reasonable amount of time

[sharp swift]

Quant has a pretty even distribution at around 5% AFAIK

[tall karma]

Plus no refinery nonsense

[sharp swift]

and quant can only be a certain % of a rock's mass, so the really big breaks would need a fully crewed mole or two

so you're looking at sniffing for small chunks and piecing things together slowly...I still think ERTs or whatever you like doing is a better/more efficient route

[neat shale]

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/61894/thread/contract-search-and-filter/498268

can I get people to upvote this

[peak vigil]

could some one tell me the different between the multi tool tru hold attachment and the two handed tractor beam?

[past fractal]

basically power output. The tru-hold can't lift the largest of boxes, and it struggles to move boxes very far away from you. The Maxlift can pick up just about any box, but only for limited distances. The ATLS treats boxes like they are made out of rubber bands that have been primed for launching across a room, at any size

[peak vigil]

LOL thank you

so the maxlift can lift the larger 32scu boxes?

[past fractal]

I'm not actually sure. I haven't tried. I think it's not supposed to be able to though

[peak vigil]

ahh thanks anyways

[light imp]

Yessir

[peak vigil]

thank you

[fallen osprey]

Yeah I am pretty sure I have before.

[mild pumice]

Yes it can just slowly (particularly rotation)

When loading my C2 I just javelin them in lol. No need to rotate

[molten hatch]

Doing Hull C hauling between Terra and Magnus stations. Is it normal for QT jump to just stop without warning mid jump?

I'm talking like several times

[leaden monolith]

nope. I've had it happen but was able to continue straight away.

Still no 🙂

[molten hatch]

weird, thank you for confirming. Must just be this server.

[leaden monolith]

SC keeps giving everyone their own unique set of features

[molten hatch]

It really does 😆

[past fractal]

That means you are hitting the barrier between two servers and the transition is timing out. You may want to try a different region.

[molten hatch]

Oh interesting. I'll have to try that. I'm in NA on a US server, but I'll try EU just to see if that makes a difference.

[mild pumice]

Nice the Golem fits in the Polaris lower hangar

[mild pumice]

Well it works just don't get into a fight, vehicles in the cargo bay get destroyed lol

bye bye broken golem lol

[sullen sentinel]

Had the same happen in my asgard lol. One missile and i needed a new roc and a new m50

[mild pumice]

😦

well at least I got 2x free ore bags out of it

[lone mountain]

odd, seems like vehicles in bays arent protected by its shielding

[thin axle]

yall know how to do the cargo retriaval missions

[mild pumice]

Not familiar with these missions, do you have a screenshot?

[thin axle]

there was keycards and stuff idk if it was bugged or not

[mild pumice]

Oh cool, is that new in PTU? I've not seen this mission before

[thin axle]

nah you just gotta hit the verifyed missions

up here

[mild pumice]

There should be a box to pickup somewhere and then bring it to hex

Unless the PAFs have freight elevators?

Oh yeah it does say freight elevator

[thin axle]

it needed key cards and stuff

[mild pumice]

Oh. I'll check it out and see if I can do it

Assuming CFP also offer it

[lament zodiac]

I have been Hull C cargo runs for a few weeks now, would any heavily experienced Hull C cargo runners tell me if they feel it is more beneficial to wait for the "unable to transfer, vehicle must be stationary" or to keep moving and stopping?

[mild pumice]

Just try to be as much in the middle as possible and exactly level horizontal and vertical within the box. I recommend powering off once you're stationary

[lament zodiac]

yeah, ive been doing this already, and it does work most of the time. The issue I run into is when it completes (on rare occasions) after only unloading for less than 1 second lol

I have never been able to save it when that happens. I think it is bugged on the loading end when that happens

[mild pumice]

yeah the Hull C just sometimes flat out refuses to work

[lament zodiac]

I can get most of the contracts to work, but when it says "complete" after only dropping off less than 100 SCU, that, thus far, is not possible to save

[mild pumice]

At least with haulage all you lose is time, I never trade with the Hull C anymore I lost too much aUEC

[lament zodiac]

I never even thought about trading, to other players?

[mild pumice]

I mean commodity trading

there's some bigs profits to be made but they're such high risk because if it fails to load you forfeit the cargo

[fallen osprey]

Yeah and the only way to really garentee you can load it safety is by doing it yourself.

And then you still have to sell the stuff to

Which can take a bit of time.

[mild pumice]

so yeah I don't get the hauling missions because I'm affiliated with CFP. I'll have to check my alt who is HH affiliated!

[loud spade]

So if I made a PO (Purchase Order) for a Hull C and instead of undocking it just magically vanished leaving all of us in space regardless of whether or not we grabbed the cargo thats just 5M gone isnt it?

[mild pumice]

as long as you don't leave the area you should be able to call the ship again (if it was stored)

[loud spade]

It disappeared randomly into thin air the fleet manager said Unknown location and Claim was the only option

[mild pumice]

ffs

Hull C is almost as big a scam as Wikelo

[thin axle]

idk what CFP is but alr

[mild pumice]

it's the opposite faction to Headhunters, Citizens for Pyro, which means I am hostile to HH, hence no HH missions

[past fractal]

Citizens For Prosperity*

[loud spade]

It disappeared randomly into thin air the fleet manager said Unknown location and Claim was the only option

Seems the money and SCU are just gone

[loud spade]

Merchantman is less of a scam at this point

[mild pumice]

@thin axle yeah I get the missions with my other character, going to try now 🙂

lamo this is fun

[thin axle]

i had to abandon that one because i had a enemy that was unkillable and couldn't find the cargo

[mild pumice]

the freight elevator is here:

[thin axle]

it was broken i guess then

[mild pumice]

yeah broken - no cargo

[thin axle]

it doesn't even go down

[mild pumice]

yeah broken mission, I'll see if I can find an IC

[thin axle]

i think like atleast 2/3 broken idk about the lowest one

[tall karma]

Did you search the F2 star map? You can QT to your ships maybe it just ejected you but kept goingm

[mild pumice]

using the turret to kill the NPCs was funny AF tho

[thin axle]

idk if the medical ones work its like a space staion type thing

it was like 119k for me

[mild pumice]

that's at the OLP right? I didn't try that but assume they also have a freight elevator somewhere

[thin axle]

it was the cargo retrivale one

[mild pumice]

the laser was all setup in use so I didn't want to mess around getting into a fight with an org lol

[mild pumice]

yeah it says to collect from one of the OLPs which is the laser satalite

so there should be a freight elevator somewhere but those sites are pretty heavily guarded

inside and out

[long grail]

The out, if not player guarded, is pretty free.

[mild pumice]

I might give one a go next time, there was like a sea of red when I flew near 😄

one solo spacedad in a cutlass gonna get ripped apart LOL

[loud spade]

No it disappeared from the docking port, the ship didn't exist after it had to be reclaimed and never had cargo on it

[thin axle]

yeah i think all of em are kinda broken

[mild pumice]

Maybe fixed in 4.2, will check again. Always looking for interesting hauls lol

[thin axle]

yeah they pay better and are more fun

[mild pumice]

Found and contributed to an IC so it has 8/10 now...

[loud spade]

Any ships that require docking seem to be a bad idea at least until there's more stable servers, hopped servers and had no problems (still lost all my money)

[lone wolf]

can anyone recommend a Prospector loadout for quant mining? I'm a total mining noob but I want to get into it

[warm totem]

heres mine - I feel its the best!

[lone wolf]

awesome, thanks!

[warm totem]

you might also wanna check out regolith.rocks - will let you load stuff like in my screenshot and test diff loadouts and gadgets

with my loadout you should be able to break 12-15k rocks - I think my tops was a 19k but its more about finding a decent amount of quant and top tier stuff, then making sure you get back before she blows!

if you're in stanton, try Cellin - it isnt everywhere like in pyro but it does spawn there fairly regular

refine at ArcL2 for a quant bonus and sell at orison - enjoy the hunt!

Arc L4 has a bonus for taranite at the refinery, so if you cant find the quant you might wanna do that instead...and again enjoy the hunt!

[lofty drift]

up to 38k: helix, surge & stampede

make sure you bring along sabir gadgets

[floral lichen]

if I've stuffed my cutty so full of gold that it sounds like someone is dropping silverware down the stairs am i in danger of going boom

[lofty drift]

help i cant activate my mining modules

[spare cloud]

Sure it has charges left ? Land and repair, see if it helps.

[lofty drift]

just getting in and out helped

in any case check out my mole, love the wear and tear

[spare cloud]

That ship worked hard

[lofty drift]

been up nearly a week

[mystic orchid]

brand new to mining, confused as to why i dont have any charge or optimal zone for these rocks in my mole, are these rocks intended for smaller vehicles? attached my loadout incase its relevant

[lofty drift]

you gotta use the seats

cant mine from the pilot in the mole

[mystic orchid]

thats not it, there's a larger rock that is showing the charge zone even from the pilot seat

[lofty drift]

it never shows the charge zone when you scan it from pilot

[mystic orchid]

?

[lofty drift]

weird

maybe im tripping

[mystic orchid]

ive already sat in every turret

[lofty drift]

then that rock might be bugged

[mystic orchid]

my theory is that the rock size is intended for size 1 laser and below?

[spare cloud]

If it's outlined in Purple (sub 10 SCU materials), you can extract it directly

[lofty drift]

cellin has had some buggy rocks recently

[lofty drift]

that too!

[mystic orchid]

ahh didnt think of that

thank you

[spare cloud]

Also, if you're running solo your Impact head is totally pointless.
It's set with modules to run as a powerful mining head, but you already have the Helix which does that better.
Replace the modules for an extraction head or the whole head for a low power head (which Hofstede should do already)

Last thing, use regolith.rocks to make mining loadouts, much more detailed than Erkul or spviewer.

[sage lodge]

hello industrial players, please tell me ur favorite trade routes so i can pirate you and steal all your processed food

[rancid egret]

Question: how much cargo can the Crusader MSR hold in the hidden room on the side? is it shielded from scanners also ?

[spare cloud]

It's only 2 SCUs.
And shielding isn't implemented

[rancid egret]

ah

[glass marsh]

Anyone done cave mining recently? Lucrative any?

[thin axle]

how do i use the beam on the raft

[spare cloud]

You don't. It's just a large flat grid

[thin axle]

sorry i meant tractor beam

[spare cloud]

Ah right, that's mb.
There should be a Enter Remote turret button somewhere

[thin axle]

i cant find this thing

[lofty drift]

no but if you're gonna do it, grab a hoverbike can scan inside the cave to check what minerals are there

[glass marsh]

Cool. Any chance u can fit cargo onto any of the bikes?

[lofty drift]

dont think so

if anything put a crate at the entrance of the cave

[sullen sentinel]

Bikes have internal storage but that means emptying your backpack into it constantly, pretty inconvenient

[olive gull]

is on the top floor, front left side

[thin axle]

thanks

[warm totem]

lucrative not really, and I find the caves to be quite pointless yet somehow I have been doing it regardless of the revenue - i'm still in search of the janalite that once in a blue moon will spawn making every worthless trip seem trivial...

bring a atls geo to scan the hole before wasting alot of time - then go explore it anyway - why? I dunno I think I just like caves, lol

Sand, Rock, or Acidic - me go see

Also something about Kopion roaming around down there is fun...maybe one day a boreal stalker will pop out and I really will crap my pants

[edgy shadow]

Anyone confirm if loading refined ore onto a raft is borked in anyway?

[edgy shadow]

found out autoloading the raft will infact bork your cargo. It overlaps them on the grid in the same spot.

[edgy shadow]

And the raft only shows 4 SCU available at admin terminals now.

[lone mountain]

just had 500k worth of mining get destroyed because my freelancer max doesnt know how to go up an elevator

[edgy shadow]

the work around is call it at the asop then immediately store it then go to your hanger and call it.

[lone mountain]

is it worth mining titanium?

i see alot of people mine titanium on regolith.rocks but

i thought it didnt pay well

[leaden monolith]

A lot of people only mine for the big paying ores. Others find something they can mine and mine it regardless of what it is. You'll earn money either way.

[long grail]

Auto loadokg seems not fleshed out. Can barely autoload shit on my Taurus. Always have to go to my hangar and stack itmore effectively

Btw why tf is the atls so funny. Im just throwing my cargo at all times

[burnt flame]

hey guys do we know if the hull C bug is just on the 700k missions? (as in the bug where the timer doesn't go down.)

or do the 600k missions work fine?

[lofty drift]

700k missions work fine

[burnt flame]

thanks it's been doing a stupid infinity time bug where it never changes and i only get like 2 peices of cargo

work around if u know?

[verbal lintel]

Do some ships just not have as much meat on their bones? Ive scraped about a quarter of this Asgard and ive only gotten about 1 SCU of RMC

[burnt flame]

yea salvage contacts aren't worth the price you pay

look around yella astroids

[verbal lintel]

Oh I havent done salvage contracts in many a moon

I hunt for abandoned player ships in pyro

[mild pumice]

salvage has been nerfed and nerfed to the point of uselessness tbh, it's further nerfed in 4.2 apparently less than 4scu off a large panel now.

20k salvage contracts you barely get 1scu off them and the weapons sell for 100cr or something lol

It's almost like they don't want players to do it - perhaps salvage just costs too much server performance

[long grail]

I find the money you can sell ship parts for is a massive joke. 250k for attrittions but they sell for like 1k

[mild pumice]

I know they did it because of duping but really need to find an actual soluition instead of just deleting a type of gameplay

[slate spruce]

Salvage contracts are quite useless, going for a search on your own is now the way. Either look for panels, align with someone with a SRV to pull abandoned ships from outpost armistice zones, or go to Hathor and try your luck there.

[long grail]

Cant be that hard to add a marker somewhere to weapons you take from player ships vsNPC ships and atleastmake Npc parts a little more worthwhile

[long grail]

Im just chilling at harthor a lot with a Connie parked driving arnd in a vulture

Or Salvage the Gilly Gauntlet kills

[lofty drift]

make sure its only gateway to gateway

and try moving in an out of the box

if that doesnt work

i would either wait the timer out and request a new spot or switch servers

[nocturne rune]

Is Surge + Lifeline a good combo?

With the Helix arm

[storm mist]

Hello, so question. I have a friend, and put him in one of my vultures, and I took my other and we went and did a legitimate salvage mission, but for some reason when he emptied the queue of the vulture he was using it marked it all as stolen. Is there a way to not have that happen so that he can sell things since he was using the ship with permission?

[olive gull]

was your friend in a Party with you at the time?

if so, he would had the proper permision

[storm mist]

He was, yes.

[spare cloud]

"One of your vultures", as in, you got one vulture that you claimed and retrieve twice for you and your friend ?

Or you actually bought and own two Vultures ?

[distant ridge]

Anyone well versed with the Golem or ATLS-GEO?

[spare cloud]

Just ask

[distant ridge]

How much money could one bring in with say a 1 hour mining expedition with each?

I saw a video of selling a full Golem’s worth of raw ore for almost 80k

I’m not really after “the best” or most efficient form of mining, more so just the chill aspect of doing in it a smaller vehicle I enjoy

[storm mist]

I have two. I let him take out the one listed as Vulture, and then I took the one listed as Vulture - 2

[slender raft]

I’ve had issues where if the person who mined it isn’t the one dropping or selling it it’s given me that issue

Even though both ships are yours

[spare cloud]

Alright, that's good.

If at any moment before your friend sells the cargo you're not in party, the cargo will be marked as stolen even if you reform the party. You have to be in party the whole time, from hoping into the ship to selling.
If you were, then it's a bug and there's nothing to do about it.

[storm mist]

I think we were but I may also have left before he did, but I will keep that in mind for next time, thank you.

[modest monolith]

is atacamite worth anything?

[olive gull]

!tradetools

[jolly dagger]

SC Trade Tools

One-stop-shop for everything trade related in Star Citizen: best trade routes, best mining spots, etc.

[hard siren]

https://uexcorp.space/trade/routes

[muted cairn]

Anyone got any resources for finding good hauling routes? I've got a pretty good one at Microtech from Tressler to some of the mining facilities and NB which nets me about 600k in 45 minutes. I'm wondering what other good ones are out there.

[winged musk]

So what CAN the GEO mine..

[crude thunder]

I'd imagine smaller rocks that give gemstones, those will fit in the backpack. Similar how the ROC(s) work

that Gneiss is about the size you'd use a Golem, Prospector, or Mole for

[spare cloud]

Hand mineable and ROC mineables

[modest monolith]

Earlier today I went mining on daymar, I spent around an hour looking for anything good to mine but all I got was obsidian, quartzite and other dog shit ores, is this just super unlucky cuz yesterday I had decent finds

[olive gull]

Mining depends a lot (too much) on luck.

[modest monolith]

aight just making sure i wasnt glitched or some shit

[olive gull]

wel... server performance is also a big part, you may have better luck on your next session

[dark quartz]

im thinking about getting a golem once it is released into ingame shops, how does it compare against the prospector/is there anything i should know about its limitations? i was planning on getting it soley because ive heard it can fit inside the C2

[lofty drift]

made 40 mil off mining in 2 weeks

[zealous sorrel]

where on microtech can we mine

[pliant lantern]

Everywhere and it depends what you want

But I recommend you the moon calliope

[zealous sorrel]

thinking Dolivine on microtech

[pliant lantern]

Dolivine more simple in caves because it's only in FPS

For finding caves you can use verseguide

And id you want to mine with roc or geo in Stanton I recommend Arial

Also hadanite is better

[burnt flame]

Thanks for the help man i'll try that

[pliant lantern]

Never sell raw ore always refine it. And for geo you easily find fenmaline on terminus

[zealous sorrel]

Alr thanks mate, is roc mining on microtech itself possible

[pliant lantern]

Yeah it is not the best but possible

You can loot the porcentage on regolith website

I looked and you will find most boradom and glacosite for roc

150k approx for one scu of beradom

And 100k for glacosite

And fenmaline is 350k , where one scu of hadanite is 550k

[zealous sorrel]

right

Appreciate it mate

[pliant lantern]

👍

If you don't want to go to Pyro Ariel is nice for fenmaline

[verbal lintel]

Does the reclaimer have larger salvaging heads than the vulture? I know theres only the 3 kinds of heads in game

wondering if it actually scrapes faster

[pliant lantern]

Yeah it's size two

And don't confuse head with modules

The best is abrade be susd it middle ground good speed and middle efficiency

[verbal lintel]

Yeah i run double abrades on my vulture

just trying to decide on a ship to grind for

reclaimer an obvious choice given salvaging is my preference

but ive heard it has some design struggles with the way the game and cargo currently works

[spare cloud]

It has some struggle you can quickly enough get used to, but the interior will never be good until it gets the rework it deserves

[pliant lantern]

And also not good solo

[fallen osprey]

I want the reclaimer myself but unloading it is pure pain.

[pliant lantern]

yeah it need a rework

[hardy current]

hey anyone here mind answering some questions about hauling?

[fallen osprey]

Only the ones you ask.

[hardy current]

are missions not shareable until after you do the qualifying mission?

[fallen osprey]

No you should be able to share missions. Sometimes it doesn't work for cargo missions.

Most of the time lol. Welcome to SC

[hardy current]

oh really? thats unfortunate

how does one go about getting crew to help them? what do you guys pay your crew?

[sullen sentinel]

Ask if anyone is looking to join up in game chat or in #looking-for-session
I don't know what most people pay but i wouldn't be joining up without an even split myself

[hardy current]

ok cool, so evenly split the cargo profit

and as for hauling contracted stuff vs regular stuff which is better

[olive gull]

actually, if you are in party with someone, taking cargo missions, if you share the mission, the pay will be automatically split in half
if i cant share the mission maybe its time to server hop.

[olive gull]

contracts are better if you are just starting hauling

buy an Atlas for easy load/unload the boxes

starter contracts have lots of boxes sometimes

[hardy current]

yeah 8 scu from seraphim to orison

[olive gull]

there are 6 missions like that, all paying $50k, you can fit all the cargo in a Cutlas Black, a Freelancer or a C1 Spirit.
you'll get $300k per run, all delivering to the same spot

[hardy current]

oh what wow

do I need to do a qwualifying mission in each space zone just like bounties? (e.g. microtech, crusader, arccorp?)

[olive gull]

yes

[hardy current]

ok going to do the qualifying ones at all three and then see what pays the best

is there any cargo route that utilizes hull c and cargo loading vs manual box moving?

[olive gull]

they all pay the same, but the 50k missions may not be at all planets, Hurston doesnt have them if i remeber correctly

[hardy current]

ok is there any mission that I can auto load my ship like hull c at station without manually moving it

[olive gull]

no, and auto-loading is quite propense to bugs, meaning: cargo lost, no refunds, mission fails.

specially for the Hul C

[hardy current]

so im over in arc corp and i have rookie arccorp missions available but not a qualifying one

[olive gull]

cool, maybe they removed that, good catch!

[fallen osprey]

You can make more hauling regular stuff. But its WAY more risky. Also you can do it using like 32SCU boxes so

You dont even need a crew.

Like it honestly probally isn't worth it.

If you do do it, I would recommend a 60/40 Splitt of the profits down to the significant risk investment. Maybe even 70/30

[olive gull]

having to split such low profit is one more reason to stick to missions or doing it solo.
by the way, shared missions are automatically split among party members when completed.

[hardy current]

if im hauling it myself, and its my own cargo, can I fast load it or do I need to manually move it

[mild pumice]

Commodities you buy or sell can be loaded/unloaded automatically, you must arrange this and pay the fee at the commodity kiosk.

Hauling missions (contracted cargo) must be loaded/unloaded to/from a freight elevator, the only exception is using the Hull C at locations that have cargo ATC.

[hardy current]

but hull c is super buggy yeah?

[mild pumice]

Hull C is more RNG than Wikelo armour sets

8/10 missions don't fully load or unload and 1/10 won't load at all, then you have potential docking issues, ship despawn randomly and if you do commodity trading and it fails to load you forfeit the cargo and lose your money. Otherwise it's great 👍

[manic robin]

what is the fastest way to gain hauling rep? (currently junior rank)

[olive gull]

doing the missions

[manic robin]

the rookie ones or junior?

[olive gull]

junior

[mild pumice]

Each rank the rep doubles there or there abouts so it's more efficient to do missions at your current rank.

[hard siren]

Do you like to gamble ? there is a few cargo routes payouts spend 10m on cargo get 2m profit

[mild pumice]

Guarantee to fail at least 1/5 so never going to be an income lol. Well, unless you manage to make 4/5 successful I suggest quit whilst you're ahead!

[hard siren]

lost over lots of money in hull c when you get black screen of death

[burnt flame]

Hull c works great if your in the right place at the right time. Also I suggest just grid covalex missions (hauling) because it's a low risk high reward. Once at senior+

Usually not all the cargo registers vut you can still get 500k for most of the cargo unloading.

[hard siren]

master rank is poor payout

398k via 3or 4 drop off

[olive gull]

rookie 50k missions is $300k + an additional $45k mission to the same spot, plus the $75k mission you get to return to the station..
$420k in about 30 mins, 40 depending on Hangar queues.

Station -> Planet Airport -> Station

[mild pumice]

Moving 50+ boxes sux donkey balls tho

[olive gull]

that's true

[mild pumice]

My top loop was the 6x member stack at Microtech 90 x3 and 99 x3 but still a lot of boxes lol

3 locations so sort out what's going to each stop. Takes around 45mins

I can also do the Hurston senior 3 drop mission in about 30 mins, 325k in my Caterpillar

[hard siren]

i use all cargo ships to buy a sell at mic L1 to cru l1 the cat/star max /raft that makes me money buy in bulk

[burnt flame]

depends i'm doing the seniors and i'm getting 500k per run for most of the contact.

last night i got real lucky and the missions actually completed and i got the full payouts.

[hard siren]

nice

only had 1 711k in hull c

[burnt flame]

yea

like i said right place right time

[hard siren]

yep

lets hope 4.2 in hull c gives us full payout

[burnt flame]

Fingers crossed

[hard siren]

🤣

[burnt flame]

i'll actually be making bank then

[hard siren]

we can dream

[burnt flame]

yep