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rugged dust
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You can probably still use ffz but you may need to tweak some chatbox settings to prevent issues

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I don't really know for certain what needs to be changed or done in ffz

earnest roost
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It's outdated

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Might stop working soon unless it gets updated

rugged dust
crystal frigate
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I see someone in chat with the Festive Gold name paint. I am a year long subscriber yet I can't find that particular paint in my Paint selections. Is it only for specific users?

rugged dust
hidden agate
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do you need to log in to twitch to see 7tv emotes?
or did everyone get 3.0.0 at the same time? i am using stable Firefox ver.

sonic depot
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Is there a way to keep the casing from the mentioned user, but still keep the color?
This was typed with full caps but the oikiddo was change to lowercase according to my name
We sometimes call people with full caps and I would like to see it

rugged dust
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@hidden agate how so?

hidden agate
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cannot see the emote menu or 7tv settings

rugged dust
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Do you have any other extensions installed?

hidden agate
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BTTV and chatreplay

rugged dust
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Try disabling both of those and see if the issue persists.

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hidden agate
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i disabled my extensions and only left 7tv enabled no luck

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is it becaus i use incognito tab?

rugged dust
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could be

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you can try jumping to this thread ^^ @hidden agate

hidden agate
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it is the incognito mode, so thats bugged?

rugged dust
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look what Anatole said in that thread

hidden agate
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ah i see

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sorry

midnight flower
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giving an update on this as I found the problem
it turns out that NoScript was preventing emotes from loading, even though it didn't before v3
it didn't say anything about blocking stuff from 7TV while watching Twitch streams, but when visiting 7TV website it showed that it was blocking stuff from 7tv.io; disabling that fixed the emotes

rugged dust
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I believe 7tv.io is the api so that explains it

abstract marsh
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is there a problem?

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i was trying to upload an emote

umbral flume
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1000x1000 res limit, 7mb filesize limit, <1000 frames

abstract marsh
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ok thanks

plush frigate
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I thought clients needed channel:moderate scope in order to listen to chat_moderator_actions topic. How are normal users seeing logs for channels which they are not modded in?

rugged dust
plush frigate
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Yeah ignore that, I just checked it out. People made it sound like it was revealing more info than I thought

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Thank you

rugged dust
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👍

wicked kayak
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Im having issues seeing other people's paints. i know people that have paints applyed. but i can't see them Running 3.0.0

running firefox 111.0.1 (64bit)

rugged dust
wicked kayak
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Its also an issue in Large chats like Giant Waffle.

rugged dust
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V3 will be rolled out to all users very very soon

wicked kayak
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ah. ok will give a couple of weeks and come back if its still an issue

granite arch
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Susdoctor what seems to be the problemo?

wicked kayak
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I can't see other peeps paints

granite arch
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Susdoctor oh well lets see...

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hmmm

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i see

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ill prescribe you on going to a hardware store there ask for paint..

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should heal your problem

wicked kayak
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not any more prescibsions

granite arch
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Susdoctor 👍

wicked kayak
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we shoud proberly move chat

granite arch
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yea XD

jolly hemlock
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is the ffz supporter badges not visible with 7tv? xqcT

jade echo
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I assume I should just try again later?

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I'm on nightly build if that matters

nova hornet
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Why do some emotes appear in 2 different sizes sometimes?

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I was pushed to v3 on stable

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Changing padding in settings doesnt save too

blissful bloom
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Ensure that the dimensions of your emotes are under 1000x1000 pixels, that it has less than 1000 frames, and that it is under 7 megabytes large, less than 50 fps if animated

lyric raven
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I cannot access 7TV on YouTube after upgrading to 3.0

lyric raven
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thanks so much for your help 🙂

fluid plover
lyric raven
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i like your frog

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lol

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very...froggy

fluid plover
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Indeed

wintry quiver
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Question about youtube: Connecting 7tv to youtube gives an error, i was told that it is likely due to youtube limiting the amount of people who can connect due to it not being approved by youtube, is there any chance that you guys could flush inactive users? is that even possible? if it is that would be very useful for people actually trying to use 7tv. 7tv is so much better on youtube than bttv that I really don't want to go back to it FeelsBadMan i try to connect my youtube nearly daily in hopes I will eventually get in..

warm hazel
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I'm having the exact same issue, happened after the latest update

worn merlin
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can i get some help

unkempt cobalt
lavish shard
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what if i say no

fluid plover
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Make sure you dont have private browsing on, 7tv will not work

willow ferry
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if you're using any of firefox's limited site storage features the extension cannot work

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or if your using alternate player

candid oyster
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So does 7TV just not work on firefox now? I've tried disabling all my other extensions, nightly and stable, gone through the setup again. It's just gone. For now I'm using truffle now to get a decent theater mode on youtube.

earnest roost
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YT support is slightly reduced now as we are not able to get access to sign in with YouTube functionality

candid oyster
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Okay so we'll just have to wait then, it's not the end of the world

earnest roost
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essentially, our push towards YouTube cannot move forward because google is refusing to accept our application

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you might have to wait a while, it's been stuck for over a year

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unless we find a contact at Google who could unclog the pipes, it's likely gonna stay that way

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so there's little interest to improve YouTube support currently

candid oyster
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Good to know, at least truffle does the job

snow portal
candid oyster
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No I mean to have a theater mode on livestreams

snow portal
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ohhhh

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i see

earnest roost
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Truffle is maintained by the only guy with a real YouTube streaming contract

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So i mean

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Yeah

snow portal
earnest roost
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Ludwig is essentially the single big yt streamer at this point LULE

snow portal
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literally OMEGALUL

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Clueless im sure we can talk to ludwig

earnest roost
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YT streaming is pretty much done for

snow portal
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it really is, i wish it got bigger imo

earnest roost
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Gonna make it on the killed by Google list in a year or 2

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Gaming already died

snow portal
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Aware real

earnest roost
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New CEO is more focused on turning YouTube into tiktok

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Kinda gg

snow portal
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PepeLa seems like theyll need that more when tiktok gets banned

earnest roost
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Twitter needs to bring vine back

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Fuck me vine was ahead of its time

snow portal
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REAL

earnest roost
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So ahead of its time

snow portal
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vine made tiktok

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straight up

earnest roost
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There were like 2 other clones that preceded tiktok iirc

snow portal
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PepeLa snapchat

earnest roost
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After vine died

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I don't remember the name

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was just as cringe though

snow portal
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Hmm i dont recall any apps after that

earnest roost
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I think

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Something like that

snow portal
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OH YEAH

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thats a classic

lavish shard
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How's the doc doing on yt

fluid plover
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Pretty good from the last I saw

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I think he averages around 25-30k

lavish shard
snow portal
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anyways

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$gn Bedge

junior ravineBOT
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liptongod is now sleeping: Bedge 💤

half anchor
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Gn Lipton

inland escarp
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Can't tell if this is a bug or a feature

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Both are selected at the same time, kb navigation is a bit of a pain

earnest roost
inland escarp
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conflicts with bttv/ffz?

forest garnet
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I translated Norwegian Bokmal file 'extension'. and will I get a badge for it?

earnest roost
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#i18n @forest garnet

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You'll need to disable auto completion wherever else it's enabled to avoid conflict yeah

forest garnet
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where can I turn it off?

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@earnest roost

earnest roost
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i wasn't talking to you

inland escarp
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Disabling bttv seemed to work, thanks

buoyant grove
unkempt cobalt
# buoyant grove <:LULE:888968000609353789> So I tried to connect my discord to 7tv and it made a...

So the fix for this is a bit of a pain.

  1. go create a new twitch account
  2. on 7tv right click the login button and select "use discord"
  3. you should be on your account that only has the discord linked and now you want to link that twitch account you just created to this account.
  4. now that you have another account linked. you should be able to disconnect discord from this account now.
  5. log out of 7tv and twitch. then log back into twitch on your main account.
  6. try logging onto 7tv via twitch now and you should be able to access the account again.
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also worth nothing that discord sync is currently messed up so you most likely won't get the sub badge Sadge

buoyant grove
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I can't find the login button. I can only see the Sign in button with the twitch logo.

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oh I'm dank I didn't read it correctly DankFix

unkempt cobalt
blissful bloom
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login = sign in

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same thing

buoyant grove
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LULE Uhmm yeah but no maybe in Sweden

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DankFix Where do I disconnect the discord from this account?

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DankFix I found it

blissful bloom
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FeelsDankMan it literally is the same thing in english

buoyant grove
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Yeah LULE In finnish the other one means for the first time and other one means you are doing it again to existing account

blissful bloom
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classic finnish

buoyant grove
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Danki Translating

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I think it worked. But no sub badge NOOOO

unkempt cobalt
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to be expected. discord has been a bit dank about it lately

grizzled skiff
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I've uploaded emotes before with no issue but my latest keeps saying no longer available after uploading, why would this happen?

unkempt cobalt
grizzled skiff
unkempt cobalt
tulip solstice
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I know you didn't ask, but musical.ly was also developed in China, then bought by ByteDance and rebranded into TikTok.

junior ravineBOT
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ansonx10 just woke up: happE 💤 (8h, 43m ago)

tulip solstice
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That's how TikTok got such a big marketshare so quickly

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muscially was already popular

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lipsyncing to night-core'd versions of songs Pepepains

unkempt cobalt
grizzled skiff
unkempt cobalt
grizzled skiff
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ayo

grizzled skiff
unkempt cobalt
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@rain seal Ensure that the dimensions of your emotes are under 1000x1000 pixels, that it has less than 1000 frames, and that it is under 7 megabytes large, less than 50 fps if animated

rain seal
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ahhhhhhhhh tyyyyy

fervent nest
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hi i opened twitch on Mozilla and for some reason i cannot see thw 7tv icon next to the chat settings as it used to be i readd 7tv but nothing changed does can someone help me ?

unkempt cobalt
fervent nest
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Can't see it

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The last update was today

unkempt cobalt
fervent nest
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I have bttv

unkempt cobalt
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thats most likely the conflict try disabling it and see if the icon shows?

fervent nest
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Still nothing

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I even remove bttv

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And nothing

unkempt cobalt
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are you by chance using the private browsing feature from firefox? I know that has been causing some problems

fervent nest
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i may be using it but didn't have any problem in the past

unkempt cobalt
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v3 of 7TV is a complete overhaul of the extension. private browsing isnt currently supported. try disabling it. then closing out your browser entirely

fervent nest
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i see thank for the help

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thank you*

unkempt cobalt
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no problem WidePeepoHappySparklingHeart

scarlet sequoia
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Not sure whether I am the only one experiencing this or not; But all my chat-related badges have disappeared in people's chats. Any way to fix this?

unkempt cobalt
scarlet sequoia
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FFZ

unkempt cobalt
subtle berry
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hey homies! I'm trying to figure out if 7tv has changed the way message threading works. It could be twitch doing something weird so I'm not 100% sure yet. This thread should have been way longer, the first messages were bout getting together to play a game. It's very confusing. It's a bit hard for me to test more at the moment (I haven't disabled 7tv to see if that changes), I mostly wanted to confirm if anyone else is seeing this

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this illustrates it better actually - the replies to basterd should have been donkus, owen, then meow all in a row, but they are shown as 2 separate threads

storm knoll
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thonk why is the emote not showing? it's showing for everybody else. it's just my message that is excluded

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and the font is bold

fading breach
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Having the same issue. Also the tab-completion carousel for emotes is totally broken. Ive tried enabling and disabling every setting possible but none of it helped. Only fix is disabling 7tv altogether.

harsh bluff
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Same issues as well, I would use the : instead but even that has issues, only shows certain emotes and none of my channels i'm subbed to show up without basically typing out the whole emote

forest garnet
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why do i have some emotes like this?

unkempt cobalt
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switch it off and you'll be good

forest garnet
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thanks

unkempt cobalt
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Emote issues

pale bough
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how do you use zero width emotes in chat

snow portal
pale bough
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second

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got them in my chat but not sure how to combine it

snow portal
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ohhh

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so it’s emote then zero width

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like if it was noted and icecold, you would put noted then icecold together

pale bough
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hmmm

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any space between?

blissful bloom
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ye just 1 space Okayge

willow ferry
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lipton you just said that

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in the most

pale bough
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ah think got it to work

willow ferry
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confusing way you could have

blissful bloom
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thats liptonese

willow ferry
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when you want to put the ice cold and the noted you'd put the noted and the ice cold

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both

blissful bloom
snow portal
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stfu

hollow crypt
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Is it a known issue that enabling vod support makes chat not show up at all in Firefox? I thought it was just due to upgrade wonkiness, but it also happens on a clean profile for Firefox as well. Both in the stable and beta versions.

earnest roost
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it isn't a known issue

limpid siren
ember edge
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yo guys! I just downloaded and logged in 7TV Nightly a couple days ago but i didn't get beta paint. do i need somthing alse to do? FeelsDankCube

half anchor
ember edge
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unlucky i guess... okay thanks!

tulip solstice
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Yeah the “beta tester” paint stopped being available long before the beta was renamed to “nightly”

austere veldt
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is there a fix for the thread not showing main message bug yet?

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its so annoying. have to use 7tv for the emotes but literally cant read a thread

unkempt cobalt
forest garnet
forest garnet
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it still does not work

cyan torrent
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what other extension do you have ? ApuThink

forest garnet
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Version 2.2.3

eager flume
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how do i fix this i only have 7tv extension

cyan torrent
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do you have any extension other than 7tv @eager flume @forest garnet ? ApuThink

eager flume
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yeah but not for twitch

forest garnet
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FFZ

cyan torrent
forest garnet
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now it is working @cyan torrent

cyan torrent
forest garnet
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yes

cyan torrent
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i dont have the issue with ffz on, so might wait for a dev to comment on this i guess elisSit

feral glen
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is it possible to disable this bar?

earnest roost
earnest roost
feral glen
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ty ty ApuApproved

drowsy epoch
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is there a way to transfer a subbed 7tv acc to a different twitch account? like I dont have access to the twitch account anymore?

forest garnet
earnest roost
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switch to nightly or disable ffz

distant imp
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Hi, sometimes I have this issue where the paint I'm using (Ice Cold in this instance/normally) appearing much darker in twitch chats. It doesn't do this all the time, but also I can't really figure out what causes it. Is there any ideas to what could be causing this? I tried searching for an answer before coming into here, but haven't had any luck so far. I've tried other colors, and it appears to extend to them as well. I've also tried swapping to the beta version and the problem still occurs. Lastly, I've also tried to swap my normal twitch color to a simple white to see if it would help, and that still didn't change anything

earnest roost
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do you have dark reader

distant imp
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I do, and I just turned it off and it works NotLikeDuck I looked over my extensions to see if there was a conflict and completely overlooked dark reader

earnest roost
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yeah dark reader messes with a ton of stuff

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should really be on white-list mode by default

dusky rock
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i keep getting an error that my discord account is already link to a 7tv account but its not. i had updated my emote list then unlinked and thought i relinked it to my proper account but its not here. and now im getting the error that its linked to another account. Aqua_cry lol.

how can i unlink it from wherever it is and apply it to my actual account?
https://gyazo.com/1f2f311a6422c549ac08d8a7e4d25a7c

distant imp
upbeat kayak
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why are so many harmless emotes blocked from personal emote use?

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if the rules (whatever they are) for personal emotes are more strict than twitch's own affiliate emotes than whats the point of having them

unkempt cobalt
# dusky rock i keep getting an error that my discord account is already link to a 7tv account...

I assume what happened is when you tried to relink your account there is a bug currently where an entire new account is being created with the discord linked. if you sign out of your 7tv account, right click the sign in button in the top right and select "use discord" you'll most likely find the account your discord is connected to. if you find your account linked there below is the fix

the fix for this is a bit of a pain.

  1. go create a new twitch account
  2. on 7tv right click the sign in button and select "use discord"
  3. you should be on your account that only has the discord linked and now you want to link that twitch account you just created to this account.
  4. now that you have another account linked. you should be able to disconnect discord from this account now.
  5. log out of 7tv and twitch. then log back into twitch on your main account.
  6. try logging onto 7tv via twitch now and you should be able to access the account again.
quasi oxide
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waaaait a minute

upbeat kayak
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ik awareman is under the channel minimum but it says "This emote is disallowed"

quasi oxide
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why does that emote have non-latin characters?

upbeat kayak
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uploaded late 2021

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dont change it though arnoldHalt

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i have the same issue with emotes like pokiPray being disallowed on 7tv but allowed on BTTV, when 7tv started as an alternative emote service with less restrictions

unkempt cobalt
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under 40 is the reason its saying emote disallowed. NerdTyping could potentially be used to mock/harass someone and the name of that emote is the reason its getting rejected because its non latin characters

earnest roost
upbeat kayak
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ok but it should be allowed if you rename it

unkempt cobalt
earnest roost
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renaming on personal sets is likely going to be disabled so moderation is based on the original emote name

willow ferry
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BabyRage

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BUT ANATOLE

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THEY'RE HARMLESS

blissful bloom
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makes total sense imo

willow ferry
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YOUR WORSE THEN TWTITCH

upbeat kayak
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the second one being toxic is entirely subjective too, and would likely be allowed on twitch as an affiliate emote

willow ferry
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something being allowed on twitch means nothing

upbeat kayak
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???

willow ferry
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twitch doesn't moderate anything consistently

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we are not twitch

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the point is WE dont want to let people use those emotes globally

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because it would reflect poorly on OUR image

upbeat kayak
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so basically 7tv turned into exactly what it was created as an alternative to

willow ferry
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apples to oranges my friend

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your not arguing your case effectively

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a channel being in control of the emotes they enable

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=/= personal emotes

drowsy epoch
willow ferry
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personal emotes apply to every chat weather or not those creators choose to have them

upbeat kayak
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then why not have a system that lets the individual channel decide if they want to ban an emote

willow ferry
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they obveously must be stricter

upbeat kayak
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just like sub emotes would be

earnest roost
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i mean
the entire reason for the strict moderation on personals is so you can actually use them

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if we didnt moderate them like this every streamer is gonna disable them and everyone will shit on the feature and no one will see your personal emotes

willow ferry
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but no my nerd emote Nerdge

upbeat kayak
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great mods btw

unkempt cobalt
upbeat kayak
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make fun of everyone who suggests changes they dont like

willow ferry
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hey man, I'm only reflecting the energy you put out

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shits shit I'm not going to polish it

earnest roost
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anyway chill

unkempt cobalt
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Okay my b

blissful bloom
unkempt cobalt
earnest roost
gloomy locust
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Did something change about the emote upload/processing pipeline. I uploaded a new emote as a webp and it is uploaded but processing for 15min+ now. I retried with smaller filesize and also tried with a gif but all of them are stuck processing.

blissful bloom
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Hmm this problem keeps popping up with emotes that definitely should go through without issues

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ive seen a couple more ppl ask the past couple days

earnest roost
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@gloomy locust seems to be silently failing during processing

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failed at make results; failed at convert_png; signal: killed; convert_png failed:

gloomy locust
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what's after convert png failed:

unkempt cobalt
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someone else had this the other day and switching the color profile to sRGB in photoshop fixed it

earnest roost
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@halcyon walrus any idea why this image gempir is trying to upload is failing with the error i posted above

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yeah its likely an encoding issue

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that the processing doesnt like

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the error thrown doesnt actually have any more info, probably badly logged

tacit perch
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anyone know why bttv emotes show up like this

earnest roost
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bc other extensions do weird things that corrupt twitch internals

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switch to nightly or disable bttv/ffz

gloomy locust
unkempt cobalt
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@gloomy locust

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that should work without issue

gloomy locust
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now it's discord compressed

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It looks a lot worse

unkempt cobalt
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lemme look at ez gif and see if they have an option

gloomy locust
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you can try to throw it into a zip

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so discord doesn't fuck with it

unkempt cobalt
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oh its easy. just select use global colormap

gloomy locust
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which ezgif thing are you on there

unkempt cobalt
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just the default GIF Maker

gloomy locust
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Hmm no luck with that yet

gloomy locust
earnest roost
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the perma processing is weird, it should be erroring out

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since i can see the failure log , but looks like its not emitting back to the api

gloomy locust
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It's not file size or frame related? Because I used to get rejected on anything above 2mb

unkempt cobalt
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nah its under 1k frames u should be good there

tacit perch
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there was nothing to disable that i could see @earnest roost

earnest roost
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wdym?

austere veldt
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@earnest roost im sorry to bother but pls do something about the thread not showing the main message bug. cant see a single thread

earnest roost
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alright give me a second im gonna pull out my magic wand and fix that on the spot, even forcing google to approve the update right now Okay

unkempt cobalt
willow ferry
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typically it just stays in processing state forever

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that stopped happening a while ago

earnest roost
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ApuThink yea i remember reports of perma processing from a while back

willow ferry
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ngl that whole system is kinda dank

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not a huge fan of the way its structured, not like i have any better ideas though

earnest roost
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there arent a ton of different ways to do it though

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like the advantage of the way it's done atm is it supports the ephemeral environment 7tv runs in

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(that being kubernetes)

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processing can take several minutes at times, if tasks don't persist and the processing service restarts or gets recycled then the upload just dies forever

tacit perch
earnest roost
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which thing didn't work

tacit perch
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i disabled it and the emotes are still broken but i can see the others emotes just not mine when i type it

earnest roost
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can you show your compat tab

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in 7tv settings

gloomy locust
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I mean it's fine if the file is uploaded and not visible straight away, but the page should list the error when its done processing

earnest roost
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normally it should show an error but that stopped working it seems ill have to look

tacit perch
earnest roost
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well

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i mean

tacit perch
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am i just FeelsDankMan ?

earnest roost
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do you use any ffz general site features / anything thats not in 7tv

tacit perch
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hey that worked

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thank you

left mirage
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hey, just noticed timestamps get forced to 12h format with the new 7TV extension enabled, any way to change that?

rugged dust
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You can change your browser language to English(UK) also

left mirage
rugged dust
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👍

tough monolith
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Can you change your 7tv username?

fluid plover
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soon™️

tough monolith
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Alright. Can you change your bio?

fluid plover
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Wym bio?

tough monolith
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nvm then

fluid plover
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If you mean the top left of your profile that reflects your twitch bio

tough monolith
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o alr

lapis rock
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is there a way to go back to the old 7tv build? i am not a fan of the new update at all

earnest roost
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why

lapis rock
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are you asking why i don't like the update?

earnest roost
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yes

lapis rock
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oh

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i just don't care for the new UI. it makes finding emotes a bit frustrating

earnest roost
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so you just want access to the native twitch menu?

lapis rock
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yeah that and i just don't like the new highlight system, i would rather just use the normal twitch chat with 7tv emotes

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is that possible?

earnest roost
#

there's no "normal twitch chat with 7tv emotes"

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but you can disable highlights and it is now possible to move the 7tv emote menu button in v3.0.1 (currently in the nightly release version)

lapis rock
#

would you mind explaining to me how to do that?

earnest roost
#

7TV settings -> highlights, then tick off the highlight types you don't want

willow ferry
#

in 3.0.1 you can also change the style of highlights

lapis rock
#

okay and if i do that will it just use the default twitch highlight system?

willow ferry
#

to be closer to bttv and ffz

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there is no native highlight system

earnest roost
#

for the emote menu button for now you'd need to swap to the nightly version, then change this

lapis rock
#

ah okay

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thank you!

earnest roost
#

yeah theres no highlights on twitch natively

willow ferry
#

for highlights these are probably the settings you're looking for

tacit perch
#

its doing it again kekwhat

willow ferry
#

Both of these should be fixed in 3.0.1, but the release is still under review by Chrome afaik

tacit perch
#

i just reinstalled it

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how to tell what version?

willow ferry
#

did you install nightly?

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or stable

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you can see the version in the settings

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top right on twitch, then on the bottom of the settings menu

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but if your on chrome stable 3.0.1 hasn't been approved

halcyon walrus
#

@earnest roost not sure why that emote wouldn't work

lucid rampart
#

Curious if anyone else is having issues with getting new sub badges? I think I read there was an issue with yearly renewal, but I have the monthly subscription

blissful bloom
#

the percentage bar is off - 3 months will be rewarded after 90 days

rugged dust
#

7tv badge works just like twitch badges, you get awarded a badge on the 1st day of the month milestone

#

however idk why people aren't receiving lately Apu

blissful bloom
#

it says next sub anniversary in 15 days though? FeelsDankMan which is almost 90

#

the bar has always been wonky either way

rugged dust
blissful bloom
#

SCHIZO ping reply for above message

blissful bloom
rugged dust
#

Tomfoolery 🔔

upbeat kayak
#

on the emotes page all of the pages 25 and onwards show the exact same emotes for me

fluid plover
#

Wait wtf same

upbeat kayak
earnest roost
#

intended change

upbeat kayak
#

??? why

earnest roost
#

it's no longer possible to go further than page 25, though the website doesn't yet reflect that

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beyond that you'll now need to use filters to tailor your search

upbeat kayak
#

why

earnest roost
#

so that the servers don't literally die LULE

upbeat kayak
#

so does the api return all of the first ~1125 emotes and not support a limit/offset query?

earnest roost
upbeat kayak
#

i dont understand what the straining factor would be

earnest roost
#

well, scale is complicated

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so i get you wouldn't understand

#

but in case that might make it easier for you, a limit/offset query eventually stops being efficient after a table grows too large

upbeat kayak
#

i see

earnest roost
#

as it starts from the beginning, must skip potentially hundreds of thousands of documents

#

the sensible alternative beyond this point is an after query, but it's no longer pagination anyway

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i find it better to keep it as a pagination and limit it to a sensible amount of pages

fading swallow
#

Does this not work on the beta version? It says it is supposed to update immediately, but only switching between badges works. "No badge" does not. Even after waiting a few hours

#

When I was subbed before, I could disable the badge on old 7tv site, but I'm getting this when trying to sign in there

earnest roost
#

no badge might take some time, or actually it might take a while altogether right now, due to the legacy cosmetics still having your user id tied to a badge

#

once all users have been migrated to v3 that won't be an issue

fading swallow
#

Ok, thanks. I just remember it not working at all on the new site so I thought I'd ask

supple scarab
#

Hey my friend just made me an editor on his channel, but i can only seem to add emotes to my own channel. Is there another step before i can add emotes to his?

blazing ether
#

Does your friend have a set to add emotes to?

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They need to create a set first (or add themselves an emote) before you can edit

supple scarab
#

oh ok ill have them create one

#

tyty

mystic grotto
#

Where does the favorite emotes for nightly go?

earnest roost
mystic grotto
#

wait favorite emotes highlight blue right?

fluid plover
mystic grotto
#

or is there a way to disable to 7tv emote picker? i just realized the favorite emotes are for 7tv only to pop up in the favorites tab

earnest roost
#

appearance settings

mystic grotto
#

ah found it thank you!!

peak cairn
#

How to disable the new chat of 7TV 3.0? My 2-core machine struggles even more with that enabled. I cannot find this option after enabling it during the initial 3.0 introduction setup.

fluid plover
#

Chat was completely replaced with a high performance chat

peak cairn
#

Tell my i3-540 about high performance. This new chat, unfortunately, slow down the entire machine. Went from 40% of CPU utilization to 70% with this 7Tv update.

fluid plover
#

Not sure

rugged dust
#

first time i've heard someone say they had negative performance LULE

fluid plover
#

Same LULE

rugged dust
#

can you take a screenshot of your compatibility tab? @peak cairn

peak cairn
#

Yeah, I was excited too about 3.0 on my 32-bit i3 540 machine, but it's definitely much worse CPU utilisation-wide.

rugged dust
#

could be conflicts causing strain Apu

peak cairn
blissful bloom
#

check out settings and see if turning off/down these help you:
emoji autocomplete
message history
message batching

rugged dust
blissful bloom
#

depending on chat speeds, different message batching can help a lot

peak cairn
#

Ok, I compared FFZ + BTtv+7TV 3.0 perfomance with FFZ + 7TV addon and BTTV. In the first instance, the initial load takes 100% of CPU time, images are very long to load (feels like it needs more RAM than avaliable) and chat is supper laggy and unresponsible. Then it sits at 30-40% CPU usae all the time BUT spikes to 65%.

rugged dust
#

have you tried only 7tv?

peak cairn
#

With FFZ+ 7TV addon and BTTV the initial loading is about 75-85% of CPU time, emotes, even animated are loaded instantaneously. There ar spikes to 65% but chat is never lagging behind. On 7TV with 125ms delay chat feels laggy (sorry, I'm an emote farmer, I notice these things)

earnest roost
#

the default batching is 450ms on twitch

#

so erm

#

125ms is way faster than normal

peak cairn
#

KEKW. Tried to load the stream with 7TV only with BTTV and FFZ disabled. Got "Error: Out of Memory" on load.

earnest roost
#

right yeah im sure thats happening

#

you dont need to troll, if you dont like the extension then don't use it

#

simple as

peak cairn
#

I'm not trolling, I'm just saying that 3.0 version is pretty heavy on my old machine.

earnest roost
#

idk ive heard the exact opposite from many people with old machines

#

you're the first person to make this claim

peak cairn
#

With 7Tv only right now the perfomance is a tiny bit better but chat feels choppy. I don't know how to describe it, it feels like it sends messages in packets. Even when no one chatted, it like it waits a little bit till next batch is displayed.

earnest roost
#

you can tweak that

#

just mess around with the settings under chat->performance until you get to a desirable scenario

lavish shard
earnest roost
#

smooth scroll is pretty heavy though i wouldnt recommend using that if youre on an old machine

peak cairn
#

It's on 125ms now. Given that someone just said the default Twitch's delay is 450ms hence is my concern why it feels more laggy. Turns out disabling Bttv and FFZ was not the culprit here. Might be my old CPU is missing some features. Might be the AV1 aifv decoding?

earnest roost
#

AV1 might be adding some strain on very old hardware

#

all image decoding in browsers is software decoding, so it's taking its toll on the CPU directly

#

perhaps an option to revert to WEBP might be good

rugged dust
earnest roost
#

in most cases it should be a very minimal strain, as decoding isn't generally that expensive

#

but on a 2-core toaster , eh yea i can see it

lavish shard
#

How were you able to survive twitch before LULE

peak cairn
earnest roost
#

would you mind opening up firefox and seeing if theres a noticeable difference in chats where people are spamming 7TV emotes (specifically 7tv since thats where avif is)

#

firefox doesnt have avif support, so it's gonna use WEBP on there

sly terrace
#

Hey short question, is it on my end when i cant see the channel 7tv emotes ?

#

i only have the global ones

lavish shard
earnest roost
#

that shouldnt matter pizza

peak cairn
sly terrace
lavish shard
#

There's no extension clash now?

earnest roost
#

not on that part

#

whats the name of the channel?

sly terrace
#

tube404

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with v2 it was all workin

earnest roost
#

uh, can you screenshot your page

#

or just the chat area

sly terrace
earnest roost
#

yeah just want to see what your chat looks like so i can rule out a few things

sly terrace
#

on another channel i cann see all the channel emotes

earnest roost
#

try to close out all your twitch tabs and then re-open the channel where it's borked

rugged dust
#

GachiPls unlinked

lavish shard
sly terrace
#

closed all reopend the channel where it worked and then went to the channel

earnest roost
#

ok can you press ctrl+shift+i, then navigate to the console tab, and screenshot the contents

sly terrace
#

something more is broky now i cant even see the global ones anymore

sly terrace
#

gonna change the browser language quick

#

sorry the console is still in german

earnest roost
#

new firefox IDB error pog

sly terrace
#

u want some screenshots from the working twitch channel ?

earnest roost
#

sure

sly terrace
earnest roost
#

not sure for now ill try to get back to you

sly terrace
#

okay ApuApproved

earnest roost
#

in the meantime check your browser settings, make sure you're not in private browsing mode or have disabled storage / indexeddb

peak cairn
# earnest roost firefox doesnt have avif support, so it's gonna use WEBP on there

Good news AVIF was not the issue. Bad news, on a crispy clean install of 32-bit Firefox and 7TV alone chat lags even more compared to the Edge with some addons. On Firefox the images in the emote menu took noticeable longer time to load compared to Chromium. Also, I realised that on Edge 7TV 3.0 is unable to load images of new features in the Home tab while on Firefox it's fine. https://images4.imagebam.com/86/53/9e/MEJS1I6_o.png

earnest roost
#

yeah edge doesnt support avif either

#

i guess that would be a decent comparison to chrome

peak cairn
sly terrace
earnest roost
#

ApuThink so, with 7tv standalone, the performance is still better than native though? @peak cairn

#

aside from the "delay"

peak cairn
#

It's a little bit better. Might be from the fact that bloat of FFZ and Bttv is disabled.

#

less that a 10% of CPU utilisation in peak load (from 68-71 to 63)

rugged dust
#

V3 W

earnest roost
#

with a 32-bit processor generally i dont think anything can give you huge gains, so im not surprised its not working like absolute magic

#

but good to know it's not making it worse at least LULE

peak cairn
#

It'll try to rollaback to 2.xx version of 7tv for the time being

earnest roost
#

what for?

peak cairn
#

for a smoother chat. Worst case scenario, my PC is just dying and I'm wasting everyone's time

earnest roost
#

im still failing to understand how native looks smoother to you, ive sent a raw comparison of pure chat speed before

#

its the wildest diff

#

sec ill try to find it

peak cairn
#

I'll rollback anyway for a sanity check

earnest roost
#

thats from a while back but still baically the same

#

the raw speed, and the much better scroll pause handling, huge diff

peak cairn
#

Sanity check failed - Edge downloads 3.0 anyways. FDM

sly terrace
#

its not updated on the 7tv website

#

2.3.3 is 3.0.0 and 3.0.0 is 3.0.1

earnest roost
#

yea google is hard stalling

#

the release was meant to be last friday

rugged dust
#

Clueless surely v2 will still be available soon

earnest roost
#

but theyve held the release version for 4 days now

#

still pending review

#

im gonna find a loophole and have it use remote code

#

this is just unnaceptable tbh

earnest roost
#

Use the report button

dusty crystal
#

Is it only me or does the twitch website not load correctly after installing 3.0 on firefox, both nightly and stable, like the about section takes far longer to load extensions and lags while scrolling plus normal twitch badges not being visible in chat at all

peak cairn
dusty crystal
peak cairn
dusty crystal
#

hmmm idk if it did anything but the issue seems to have gone away but i'll wait and see if it returns

#

still lags a bit in the about section while loading images and extensions but its faster than before

wicked kayak
#

Talking about lag. anyone else having issues that writing in chat halts the firefox session so hard that the player stops?

graceful bone
#

did 7tvs emote menu take over the old one for anyone else? i cant get rid of it without literally disabling 7tv :(

#

ever since the update and it wont let me go back

half anchor
graceful bone
#

its not here for me and i JUST reinstalled it

#

how do i get the nightly version

half anchor
graceful bone
#

ye tysm

#

do i need to uninstall the one i have now

#

and use this instead

half anchor
#

yea, but it's sufficient to disable it in your extensions overview: chrome://extensions/

graceful bone
#

ah right ok thank you so much

cinder oasis
hollow trellis
#

i dont see badges anymore

#

what can i do?

cinder oasis
#

refresh

scarlet sequoia
hollow trellis
scarlet sequoia
#

Then it should work.

#

FFZ & 7TV aren't very friendly when it comes to displaying chat badges.

hollow trellis
#

Thanks, works again

#

can i see FFZ Emotes with 7TV?

scarlet sequoia
#

Click on ur emote tab and see if there's an FFZ-tab there.

hollow trellis
#

👍 thanks

scarlet sequoia
#

No worries.

granite arch
#

i dont see unlisted emotes on external websites that use twitch chat

#

any solution to that?

granite arch
#

After update to V3.0 of 7TV. It not working now .I am using Microsoft Edge v111.0.1661.54

hollow pebble
#

hello i would like to request verified role on 7tv if possible. 🙂

granite arch
#

I tried Reinstall and Reload Youtube so many times but it not working too.

granite arch
rugged dust
rugged dust
granite arch
#

twitch chat

rugged dust
granite arch
#

yea i checked it and it still doesnt work

rugged dust
granite arch
#

Yes

#

Youtube only

rugged dust
#

what exactly "doesn't work" ?

granite arch
rugged dust
# granite arch

I believe this is fixed in 3.0.2, are you using any other emote extensions?

rugged dust
granite arch
#

emotes are not there

#

The emotes just not there

rugged dust
granite arch
granite arch
#

sometimes a blank pages emotes,sometimes like that.

granite arch
rugged dust
#

you can download the nightly extension for v3.0.2

#

it's on the site

granite arch
#

I will try it

#

also it used to work normally but somewhere around week ago it just stopped working

polar mortar
#

Hey, i didn't get my 3month sub badge.. i'm getting this msg: " You'll receive your 3 Months badge shortly". Can somebody help me with this issue ?

granite arch
#

I still got that issue on Nighly version of 7TV,LMAO

#

I am watching a youtuber that 7TV is working properly on Microsoft Edge

#

I asked someome on his chatbox and they said 7TV is working properly for them.

#

Maybe I will temporary remove 7TV for 2-3months then try again to see if it working or not.

wicked kayak
#

i had the same issue earlyer today. and it seems to have fixed it self

granite arch
wicked kayak
granite arch
wicked kayak
#

Try and update to 3.0.1.3

granite arch
#

I visited chrome web store and still see it is v3.0

wicked kayak
#

on twitch if you click the 7tv icon top left

#

does it have an update button?

#

top right*

granite arch
#

Do I just need to click on any stream and wait for 1-2 minutes?

wicked kayak
#

i just downloaded the extention for chrome and got 3.0.1.3

#

It shoud show up here

willow ferry
# granite arch

this is unrelated to the other issues, are you using noscript?

#

also this is probably to be expected

wicked kayak
willow ferry
#

for the other issue

#

@earnest roost

#

I havent checked the youtube impl

#

do we use the right format

#

on yt

#

if its always pulling the avif, then this is expected for edge

granite arch
#

im not sure

#

probably not tho

rugged dust
#

@willow ferry he mentioned yesterday that edge was webp only

willow ferry
#

this is not the same thing

rugged dust
willow ferry
#

and I just checked

granite arch
willow ferry
#

we don't check the browser on youtube

#

so this is expected

#

for @granite arch 's issue

wicked kayak
rugged dust
granite arch
wicked kayak
#

7tv nightly

granite arch
#

Stable

wicked kayak
#

ah

#

im running nightly

granite arch
#

I tried Nighly version before but still got that issue

wicked kayak
#

hmm

willow ferry
rugged dust
#

@granite arch if I'm reading Melonify right, v3 doesn't work for Edge/Firefox on YT currently

wicked kayak
willow ferry
#

it will work on firefox, just not properly

rugged dust
willow ferry
#

on edge emotes wont load at all

granite arch
willow ferry
#

on firefox they'll be static

wicked kayak
#

oh. it looked to be chrome for me

granite arch
granite arch
rugged dust
willow ferry
#

@granite arch this is fixable on your end

#

you'll need to download this

granite arch
#

I am running Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC so I don't have Microsoft Store 😄

granite arch
willow ferry
#

like ublock

#

or https everywhere

granite arch
#

yea ublock

#

it worked previously tho

willow ferry
#

check in ublock if you have rules that are blocking 7tv.io

#

make sure these lines are not red

granite arch
granite arch
opal tendon
#

Hello guys. Is there some way have both the default emote button and 7tv emote buttons in the chat box? I dont know why 7tv overwrote the default one but doesnt show the same emotes as the default one

earnest roost
#

settings -> appearance -> emote menu button placement

opal tendon
#

thanks I was looking through them but didnt see that

earnest roost
#

it's in 3.0.1

opal tendon
#

OK that helps. I was like im still not seeing it lol

willow ferry
#

I guess maybe that stopped working

#

they used to charge for it

#

and stopped a while ago

#

maybe thats why kek

granite arch
#

Maybe I need to switch to Pro version?

#

@willow ferry

willow ferry
#

nah, if that store extension doesn't work anymore

#

than edge just doesn't support avif at all

granite arch
#

Downloading....

granite arch
#

I hope that after switching to Pro version it will work again

willow ferry
#

it likely wont

#

this can be fixed in 3.0.2

#

its a small change

granite arch
#

i canceled download

#

tks for the informations

robust shadow
#

cannot update ?

willow ferry
#

situation pending

#

they denied the extension and removed it from the addons store

robust shadow
#

smh firefox

fleet copper
#

ye

willow ferry
#

but the reason for rejection was code that wasnt even our extension

#

they reviewed someone elses code

robust shadow
#

u cocks

willow ferry
#

then rejected ours

fleet copper
#

cant download on firefox

robust shadow
#

firefox best browser but smh

fleet copper
#

will there be a solution for firefox?

signal kite
#

classic firefox moment

willow ferry
#

we will probably switch off of amo

#

and just self-distribute the addon

#

you'll have to reinstall whenever that happens though, if mozilla doesn't decide to reverse their incorrect action

fleet copper
#

imma reinstall

#

wait

#

3.0 isnt available on the site

vocal garden
#

FeelsDankMan im not subbed?

tepid night
#

i like v3 despite not liking it when first teased GJ anatole and the team
just need my mod icons fixed then its the best extension

rugged dust
rugged dust
vocal garden
#

Lime uhh dunno what that means

sage loom
#

surely you remembered me Clueless

rotund marlin
#

can i do custom highlight for moderator messages for example ?

rugged dust
#

@blazing ether why did you add plink1plink2 to the new Twitter banner omE

feral glen
#

if i enable FFZ in the browser and the 7TV nightly extension there are no sub/resub notifications in chat. is it on purpose? FeelsDankMan

rotund marlin
fluid turret
#

how do i change the emote name to be more easier to be said in chat?

vocal garden
signal kite
fluid turret
#

i did that but there's no confirm button

#

it is go automatically?

signal kite
#

that should show when renaming it, click it and it will rename it

fluid turret
#

oh thx

fallow estuary
blissful bloom
#

yea renaming confirmation is a bit weird still FeelsDankMan ive noticed most people don't see the green pen pop up

tepid night
#

subs dont show with 3.0.1 ApuApproved

signal kite
tidal grail
#

how to get beta tester color?

snow portal
fallow estuary
tidal grail
signal kite
winter valley
#

Hello, I'm getting an issue with 7TV icon not appearing in the chat at all. It was working fine before the latest update. I'm using the 3.0 beta version now or 7TV Nightly but its the same issue for both available versions on Firefox. Anyone having a similar issue/know a fix?

earnest roost
#

are you on a private window

tidal grail
snow portal
tepid night
#

is there a fix for subs not appearing in chat?

rotund marlin
#

how do i make this work Hmm ?

fallow estuary
snow portal
tepid night
rugged dust
tepid night
#

the emote was a sub message

snow portal
#

im gonna assume this is known and will be fixed soon

#

cuz you have asked this everywhere OMEGALUL

tepid night
#

people are saying its a ffz clash fix thing

snow portal
#

best to disable ffz if thats the problem

tepid night
#

checking now just waiting for someone to sub in a chat

#

got like 8 tabs open

snow portal
#

LULE all good

rugged dust
tidal grail
snow portal
worthy arch
#

☕ this channel is about to go wild

snow portal
#

so you aint alone

tepid night
#

do people sub on twitch anymore Stare

snow portal
#

dont be sad about it, if a mod didnt get it then youll be fine kek

rugged dust
tidal grail
rugged dust
tepid night
#

i cant tell if i cant see subs or people are not subbing LMAO

tidal grail
crude ledge
signal kite
earnest roost
#

it'll go away in a couple hours if it's not working for you

echo merlin
earnest roost
#

sub messages not working on ffz seems like a possible regression

winter valley
earnest roost
#

Will have a look

signal kite
crude ledge
#

Is the subscriber badge for those who subscribed to 7tv premium? If so, how do I connect my account to this uwupeaching

earnest roost
worthy arch
#

@crude ledge discord connection is broken atm

echo merlin
#

the update feature from firefox not disable the 7tv update blinking

rugged dust
signal kite
crude ledge
#

Also, I have been having some issues on firefox 7tv. Sometimes, I can see other people's 7tv emotes but mine comes up as a broken link. If I refresh, it starts working again though. And also I was wondering if there will be a functionality to support 7tv on sites that embed twitch stream/chat?

crude ledge
tepid night
#

I hope there is a workarround other than disabling ffz because i like disabling my follow button and seeing delay

earnest roost
crude ledge
#

I will be patiently waiting peeposalute

earnest roost
#

there is the nightly version however

echo merlin
#

why is the newest update not on the 7tv update for self download?

earnest roost
#

see my above message andore

echo merlin
#

i mean not on the firefox website

crude ledge
#

I think chrome has it but not sure

signal kite
# echo merlin how

right click the extension icon -> manage extension -> click the ⚙️ -> search for updates, an update should pop up just click it and it should update

rotund marlin
echo merlin
#

even on the firefox site for 7tv its still 3.0.0

tepid night
#

ok so i can see subs with disabling ffz

fluid turret
#

i changed some emotes names but they don't appear on live stream chat

echo merlin
#

if im trying to update from github its says its broken

winter valley
earnest roost
#

no, to my prev message

#

but private window likely won't work

#

it's a limitation of how firefox functions

#

there is a workaround you can do yourself however

signal kite
winter valley
#

Ah it worked with the previous version, what's the workaround?

high star
#

Hi, is there any way to get back to the older version of the extension ? this new version took over all ffz settings and this ruins my experience on twitch.. pls consider answering Sad

earnest roost
fluid turret
winter valley
#

Thank you!

fluid turret
signal kite
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Okayge sem problema, estamos aqui para ajudar

earnest roost
echo merlin
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i used now ublock to remove the update flair from 7tv so for me its what ever.. but enable in future pls to remove update notifications like any other addon

tepid night
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submitted my intergration Requests , now all i want is the mod icons to be fixed (Showing on Other Mods/yourself/streamer

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over all amazing update though 10/10

tardy bolt
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Hey is there a way to enable a seperate line showing at the bottom of the chat whenever someone gets timed out or banned?
My issue is that in fast chats messages slip out of the view fast

snow portal
tepid night
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anatole knows what im taking about

snow portal
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oh ok

earnest roost
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but it could be added back as an option

tardy bolt
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would be nice, thanks in advance

scenic tulip
barren vector
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how do i revert chat to normal behaviour

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without uninstalling 7tv

clever chasm
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Is Nightly now obsolete ? Should i remove it ? Okayeg

barren vector
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dont like the new scroll

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if there is no solution im just gonna uninstall 😄

worthy arch
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what scroll

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smooth scrolling?

barren vector
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they changed the way messages are displayed

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with the new update

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yes

worthy arch
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Just disable it in the settings

barren vector
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hmm i didnt see an option to disable, only adjust ms number

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where i don't know what the default is

worthy arch
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0 - no smoothing

mighty schooner
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Since the new update I can't find a way to view my recent emotes. Any way to do that?

willow ferry
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if you want to see what emotes you had in old menu you can go to the twitch tab and then -> open native menu

mighty schooner
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Ok I'll give it a look

barren vector
# worthy arch 0 - no smoothing

hmm i just checked and it's actually already at 0, but whenever i tab out a stream and then tab back in the chat "scrolls" for a while until it catches up to the latest msg

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and thats the behaviour i want to get rid off

worthy arch
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oh yeah I believe this is a bug iirc

snow portal
barren vector
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alright ill disable 7tv until its fixed

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worthy arch
rugged dust
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AHHHHHH v3 promotions

quartz grove
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Guys I haven't been able to see timeouts in twitch chat for a while now, despite the "Show Timeouts & Bans" box being checked in 7tv settings. Anyone got any ideas as to why?

blissful bloom
violet harbor
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I may be stupid, but how do i get rid of the green dot on the 7tv icon, in chat and the top-bar?

earnest roost
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it should be off now if you refresh

violet harbor
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Yes, the one thing i didn't try, thank you

earnest roost
cinder oasis
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is there a way to change the order of the emotes? it's alphabetically right now but i liked the way it was before

worthy arch
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Not yet

clever chasm
harsh bluff
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Is there a way for the tab completion without : to show all emotes that match what you type; for example with inline tab if I typed "ome" and hit tab over and over it would cycle through the matches, current 7tv one for me only shows emotes that starts with those letters. So any subbed channel emotes don't show up without putting the channel name first. : shows all but it's a little more tedious to use arrows than just using tab key to cycle, thanks in advance ❤️

solid dawn
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can you please give us settings to hide deleted messages? after an update (version 3.0.1) today everyone can see the deleted message. the message is only crossed out. because of that there is no way to delete spoilers and streamer can see them......

earnest roost
solid dawn
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but we need it ASAP. we wanted to use beta but because of that we had to use the older version. now we cant do anything. is there any estimated time when we could expect it?

earnest roost
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probably 3.0.2

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so 2-3 days at most

solid dawn
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3 days is fine. thanks for an answer

jade herald
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very poor optimization, emoticons went to the upper right corner of the screen, not convenient, how to roll back to the old version?

half anchor
half anchor
earnest roost
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first extension to make twitch run better

rose swallow
umbral flume
jade herald
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my image literally crashes every 10 seconds from 1080p60 to 160p, before the update it never happened, the chat does not scroll, guys, this is really bad

earnest roost
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i think you have something else causing that kek

cinder oasis
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do i have to remove ffz and bttv after the new update?

echo patrol
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Can I use the old 7tv?:? this new one is annoying

half anchor
echo patrol
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and the emote auto completion is great and all but it does not show in my chat box anymore. the emote itself

half anchor
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I heard that from a few mods, too. I think it has been suggested. we'll see if it's going to be added.

forest plover
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unfortunately i had no idea paypal wasnt supported for reactivating subscription and i plan to resub when my sub ends but i think its going to reset and i wont get the next badge or how does it work Danki

polar mortar
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This is better XD

forest plover
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im literally going to resub immediately but im afraid ill have to be subbed for the entire time again or will it just count from where i left off

polar mortar
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how to get sub rank in discord when i am 7tv subscriber ?

worthy arch
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it’s currently not possible to link discord accounts

quasi oxide
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the hell

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since when are you red

polar mortar
rotund marlin
willow ferry
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No, its currently not possible

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it could be implemented in the future

rotund marlin
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i guess i'm staying on ffz because of that then Sadeg

polar mortar
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can anybody help me with bugged subscription ?

glacial glacier
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anyone know how to make it so our FFz Badges and BBTV pro badges show up in chat with this new update !?

worthy arch