stage-discussion

[inner sorrel]

Oh fuck

Uhm

[unkempt hill]

... I hope this isn't just for the role icon

[wanton ocean]

No, it is not

I want to feel cool that I am early to something

[surreal cobalt]

hi guys, I would be happy to be part of the stage tester

[inner sorrel]

[warped egret]

any stage testers news

[oblique inlet]

v3 is no longer coming out, 7tv is getting shut down next week

not enough money

[warped egret]

👍

pog

[inner sorrel]

7tv was planning to do their own cryptocoin but the devs pump dumped It before it was even finished

This lead to multiple sueing

And they're gonna broadcast the court cases

[polar magnet]

Imagine streaming some mock court hearings about this fictitious scenario. Would be hilarious content for streamers to react to

[daring gale]

there will be testing this week

we are aiming, in the best case scenario, to go for a production deploy by the end of the week

[muted dew]

good one

[winged jolt]

classic

[novel portal]

positive, however, seven televisions are not a directly involved party and i am uncertain

[daring gale]

probability of a massbing to the tester role at 70% today

[unkempt hill]

oh god

how many stage testers you think are actually gonna stage test

I bet

less than half

locking that in

[daring gale]

much less than half

but doesnt matter if no one comes we'll bing everybody

[unkempt hill]

that is, less than half that would be willing to

not that actually will

wtf discord

that took like 25 seconds to send

[daring gale]

time to make the fake promise of a badge for testing

but make the requirements to get it so absurdly high it's humanly impossible

[elder lichen]

badgeeeeeeee

[unkempt hill]

actually 5head

although

you'll just get pepegas

which depending testing actually

might be what you want

[daring gale]

yeah im joking

[polar magnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/649570126655651840.gif?size=48

I'm goona teeeeeeeeest

[teal knoll]

HES TESTING

[half glade]

[daring gale]

now you are

also it might not be today, it takes a WHILE to compile this shit

[muted dew]

7tv.dev doesnt even work

[eternal iron]

[cloud drum]

Event

[teal knoll]

[unkempt hill]

yeah but 7tv is like a 3rd party thing

[willow cedar]

nice event 🙂

[unkempt hill]

it got you hyped though didnt it

when it goes live you'll just be bursting at the seams to go test

seems like its done its job to me

anatole is glados

[muted dew]

hey anal toe, im testing 7tv.dev and so far it seems liek a pretty good update. I like all the new features and design changes. only problem is that the site doesnt fucking load. please fix this. thanks

[eternal iron]

in what other ways can we change user data to mess up the migration

[woeful stirrup]

https://im.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-1-d1cade0050.gif

[daring gale]

likely not today troy has to debug the container build, and each try takes like 20 minutes

sorry for the event misfire i forgot to delay it

and yes .dev is down because it's being moved to the cloud

[woeful stirrup]

no v3

[daring gale]

[teal knoll]

[woeful stirrup]

try not failing

[unkempt hill]

why the fuck does it take that long to build

is it just cause its on github actions?

[daring gale]

C

But also running on a small machine

[unkempt hill]

cant you just like

not

build it on github actions

[daring gale]

setting up the environment now

[woeful stirrup]

starting in 14 mins

[cloud drum]

time to test??

[gleaming dagger]

he forgot 🤣

[ruby otter]

💀

[daring gale]

yo

[cloud drum]

happening....

[gleaming dagger]

i stand corrected

[cloud drum]

hey

[teal knoll]

[gleaming dagger]

lipton get to modding :p

next.7tv.dev :p

[daring gale]

no need for mods stuff will get listed automatically every few mins

[lunar fable]

I totally didn't miss the big ass "add emote" button at the very bottom

[woeful stirrup]

something doesnt seems right
unless loading time

[deft tangle]

I see notification, i'm pogging

[cloud drum]

this is apu

[daring gale]

ping troy with your emote ID if you get artifacts

[gleaming dagger]

perfect

[woeful stirrup]

@desert canopy EmoteID: 62b4f7d42ca9268355f2b531

[teal knoll]

it gets hard stuck like this for me

[daring gale]

he's in a meeting rn so he'll look after

[woeful stirrup]

[cloud drum]

do i just upload avifs?

[daring gale]

may just be taking a little bit to validate

[desert canopy]

what do u want me to check

[woeful stirrup]

EmoteID: 62b4f7d42ca9268355f2b531

[daring gale]

look up troy

[teal knoll]

👍

[daring gale]

this

[woeful stirrup]

is it fine on your end?

[daring gale]

@teal knoll is it over 1000 frames

[teal knoll]

errr

lemme check

[desert canopy]

what the fuck

[woeful stirrup]

#stage-discussion message

original gif

[gleaming dagger]

previews are a bit broken on the user page https://next.7tv.dev/users/62b4f7922ca9268355f2b522

[teal knoll]

300 frames

[deft tangle]

Is the /emotes page supposed to show emotes uploaded to the stage? I only see a row of 8 emotes

[gleaming dagger]

yes

[deft tangle]

My emote isn't previewing on the userpage

[deft tangle]

I dont see the emote i just posted there

[woeful stirrup]

need some time to load i think

[deft tangle]

Oo

[daring gale]

userpage previews might be broken i'll look later, but do keep uploading various things and check for artifacts or quality issues

[deft tangle]

It says unlisted

[half glade]

stuck on 100% for a few mins now

[deft tangle]

Oh i see. I like the way this is laid out

[cloud drum]

do avifs not move in preview as gifs?

[inner sorrel]

Whats the point of converting it

[daring gale]

depends if you're using firefox

firefox doesnt support avif

[cloud drum]

right

[inner sorrel]

Firefox

More like

Firecocks

[gleaming dagger]

there is no error for 413s

[half glade]

tried another tab, again stuck on 100% - both files are webp

[finite monolith]

damn this new upload page is so cool though

really fast too

damn

[cloud drum]

can i just change gif to avif on the page?

[teal knoll]

still on this page

[daring gale]

can you check devtools->network tab and paste the response of the request

[half glade]

are we supposed to only upload avif?

[daring gale]

no upload anything

[teal knoll]

even though its 300 frames

[woeful stirrup]

Minor issue: processed emote looks a bit jagged (ID: 62b4f9612ca9268355f2b5a3)

[daring gale]

@teal knoll

[finite monolith]

is this supposed to look this pixelated?

[gleaming dagger]

whats the largest a file can be

[ruby otter]

I donk think emote tab is refreshing cus i upload a new emote but I dont see it on the emote page and when i go to my profile it's also not there

[half glade]

is this what you're asking for?

[desert canopy]

this looks like ur original upload was shit too

the side image might be wrong

[finite monolith]

this is the original upload

fdm

[ruby otter]

I refreshed and it showed now but now this shows up when trying to upload a 3rd version of it

[woeful stirrup]

[teal knoll]

‼️

[desert canopy]

3rd versions dont work

idk why

[daring gale]

they do

[ruby otter]

[desert canopy]

clueless

[daring gale]

but you need to create version from the original

[desert canopy]

try it

oh

thats stupid

[daring gale]

i'll fix that later

[ruby otter]

oh i see

[daring gale]

@desert canopy this got messed up too actually https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b4f3da2ca9268355f2b512

quite pixelated

[ruby otter]

so instead of this one i would need to select the orinal one

[steel patio]

my side image also kinda pixely, maybe cuz 112x112 source gif?

[finite monolith]

what will happen if i'll upload an 8k image

[ruby otter]

yep selecting the original one worked to upload a 3rd version

[finite monolith]

well the only way to see is to try it

[cloud drum]

original vs upload

looks kinda weird

[ruby otter]

gachipls breaks everything

[finite monolith]

IT BROKE EVERYTHING

lmfao

[steel patio]

oh I didn't know you could click on the avif thingy, my donkwalk is static when I click it

[desert canopy]

idk what ur trying to show @cloud drum

we dont use that tool

[finite monolith]

hmmmm

[cloud drum]

what it looks like in my files compared to what it looked like uploaded

[steel patio]

oh wait

[half glade]

yeah the frame delays seem off on Soaral's emote

[daring gale]

dont u use firefox

[steel patio]

I'm on firefucks goofy ahh browser

[finite monolith]

fdm

[daring gale]

@cloud drum we're not asking you to convert to avif with some online converter before uploading

converting to avif is what we are doing programatically in the backend

[ruby otter]

worked well for me, from uploading the emote to giving the description and emote looks good on quality on the side

[cloud drum]

yea i understand now

[woeful stirrup]

i tried this mp4, but got stuck on loading

[teal knoll]

[ruby otter]

[finite monolith]

@daring gale there should probably be some kind of an error if the image is too big right?

[daring gale]

yea, i dont think there is right now though

[cloud drum]

what i meant was it looked laggy on the page, this was the og and then in the video i showed how it looked laggy

[teal knoll]

for some reason for me the only thing i can upload is webp

[finite monolith]

yeahhh thats probably why the thing with my video happens

[teal knoll]

dunno about others

[cloud drum]

sorry

[ruby otter]

i uploaded gif

[teal knoll]

[finite monolith]

looks like avif works

very cool

[half glade]

some frames are cut out (or freeze) at the end of this emote

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b4fc9e2ca9268355f2b621

original

[finite monolith]

oh yeah

its like resetting

[half glade]

(the pixelated effect goes away completely on the original but not on 7tv)

[cloud drum]

[ruby otter]

@teal knoll nvm im it was the webp version I uploaded

[teal knoll]

webp looks good for these emotes https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b4fcf22ca9268355f2b62a https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b4fc3c2ca9268355f2b614

[finite monolith]

yeah looks solid

[daring gale]

keep going 👍 important to find the stuff that gets processed wrong

we store your original file so we'll be able to retry it on our end

[teal knoll]

should i try to upload those emotes on avif?

[woeful stirrup]

upload eg

[cloud drum]

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b4fdb32ca9268355f2b651 i think it got some slowdown (original)

[woeful stirrup]

how do i close this window again?

[half glade]

definitely slower lol

[cloud drum]

[finite monolith]

wtf

why is it so slowed down

lmao

oh wait

[cloud drum]

idk

[finite monolith]

is that gif above 50 fps

[cloud drum]

idk

[finite monolith]

i think i've seen something like that happen when the fps is too high

since there's a lot of frames the gif just slows down

[cloud drum]

ok

[woeful stirrup]

frame rate got like, triped or something

[tardy quartz]

man this thing is so good. flawlessly uploading mp4s

[cloud drum]

[woeful stirrup]

the original got 232 frames

the uploaded one got 92 frames

[cloud drum]

would that explain it

[desert canopy]

yeah it did

[cloud drum]

does it cut frames on 7tv?

[desert canopy]

it does

[finite monolith]

fdm

[cloud drum]

right

[desert canopy]

if frames are consecutive and are the same

it removes them

[finite monolith]

it looks like it accepts svgs but when you press submit it sends you onto an error screen

[ruby otter]

👍🏼 looks good here, im going to try and upload mp4 file now

[cloud drum]

[desert canopy]

it does not accept svgs

[ruby otter]

bruh i hate obs

[finite monolith]

yeah but you can put an svg in it and it looks like you can upload it

[daring gale]

@desert canopy perhaps a better version of that optimization would be to pool all those dupe frames' timings into one?

[daring gale]

not sure how dank that is to do

[elder lichen]

when hovering over the yellow check for gif:

[daring gale]

i assume that emote got frames cut because it had a bunch of dupe frames with short delay

which is stupid just make the delay bigger lole

but yea in practice the processor should handle that

[cloud drum]

neat

[tardy quartz]

this one won't upload, always stuck at 100%

[half glade]

original emote had 4 frames (all with different delays), 2 of those frames just dont show up + it's slow

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b4ff0f2ca9268355f2b690

original

[daring gale]

@desert canopy yea something with frame timings is off

or whatever is the optimization youre doing here, probably something dumb though

[half glade]

yoinking frames

[desert canopy]

yeah

ill have a look

[ruby otter]

for .mp4 i tried 1st with one that had 12sec and it got stuck at 100% but when uploading one with 5sec it worked well so im guessing it was frames related

[desert canopy]

remember there is a file size limit

[finite monolith]

"no"

[ruby otter]

ye i was dank for a second there

[cloud drum]

uploading a short mov video works nice

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b501cf2ca9268355f2b6d2

[ruby otter]

👍🏼 worked everything well for me

@teal knoll gif worked for me

[teal knoll]

...

[plucky prism]

looks good

[half glade]

original: 999x100, just doesnt even process it I guess
https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b502d22ca9268355f2b703

original: 384x38, same as above
https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b5033d2ca9268355f2b716

also 192x19:
https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b503d12ca9268355f2b725

500x100 works

[cloud drum]

i've only noticed a few errors in emotes but a lot of solid uploads

[daring gale]

seems like we've got the data we needed. tomorrow i will likely be doing further testing and dropping a special build of chatterino/the web extension to test backwards compatibility with v2

[woeful stirrup]

[cloud drum]

nice

[daring gale]

will leave the stage open so people can trickle in and try out themselves, but i think we got the few cases where images glitch out

[cloud drum]

[woeful stirrup]

is the pixelated image issue related to some optimization thing?

[daring gale]

not sure yet

[woeful stirrup]

what was the file size limit? maybe im blind but i cant find it

[daring gale]

about 6MB

[inner sorrel]

ok im home now

lets test this thing now

im uploading all my 7tv emotes into the stage

[teal knoll]

[inner sorrel]

i cant take this out of my screen

.mov btw

prob its because its just a bit above the upload limit

177mb jesus christ

everytime i press enter on the name it resets the page

smol gif yet im still stuck here

[teal knoll]

ive had this problem too, best way to upload it for me was making it a webp file

[daring gale]

dm troy your failing files so he can look at it

[inner sorrel]

all my files are failing brutha

[teal knoll]

[inner sorrel]

skill issue

does ezgif gifs not submit or something

finally something got through

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b514372ca9268355f2b798

why does it look so shit btw

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b4faa62ca9268355f2b5d4 why cant i add the most recent ver

yea the problem is definitely ezgif

yea i also seem to be not able to upload mp4s

[wanton ocean]

The image quality is not good, missing some pixels here and there

[warped egret]

wait

is it just test or the emotes actually getting uploaded?

[livid fern]

Any ideas how I can convert an .mov file with transparency to some of the supported formats

That support partially transparent pixels

[warped egret]

where are you doing that

[livid fern]

After Effects, it's an old emote

[unkempt hill]

you could try with imagemagick or ffmpeg

you'd need to specify the correct input codecs though

[livid fern]

Might be good to test partially transparent emotes

[unkempt hill]

I assume you encoded with vp9?

[unkempt hill]

thats like the only codec that has transparency

that can be contained in those formats

[livid fern]

No clue

[warped egret]

I do it with quicktime then bring it to photoshop

[unkempt hill]

oh its prores then

idk if ffmpeg can consume the alpha channel in prores

[warped egret]

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b522d32ca9268355f2b7f0

not sharp

[livid fern]

Can only convert to webm

And it doesn't get the transparency

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b526972ca9268355f2b7ff

[warped egret]

bruh

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b527002ca9268355f2b803

look how scuffed it gets if the image is small

[unkempt hill]

yeah it seems like the new image processor has no filtering

[rich oak]

i love it. so fast too

[unkempt hill]

I LOVE AI INTERPOLATION

[livid fern]

Any good ones that also support transparency

I tried flowframes, it says it does, but it doesn't

[willow oxide]

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b52c732ca9268355f2b810 think it looks better than the one i got up rn

kinda slow idk

also is it just me or does MOV upload just not work

maybe its the RGB + Alpha that fucks it up but idk

[woeful stirrup]

If it's slower than original, probably too much frames

[polar magnet]

these encodes are so scuffed

but AVIF is SO TINY

it's gonna be great

you could honestly just serve 4x versions for every case

would save on processing time

[daring gale]

webp: 1MB
avif: 10KB

[polar magnet]

my entire homework folder: 50 TB
my entire homework folder in AVIF: 3 KB

[willow oxide]

50 kb from a 400 kb webp p nice

[inner sorrel]

my forsen hentai folder in avif: 70PB

[willow oxide]

on gif: 1 petabyte

[unkempt hill]

it does

[willow oxide]

ah ok

[unkempt hill]

the image processor doesnt like prores 4444

I tried with vp9 alpha and it rejects it too

[livid fern]

This is kinda how it would look like

[warped egret]

it dont work

[nocturne juniper]

broken https://i.nuuls.com/AES4d.png

[polar magnet]

I saw that too

I thought it might be possible for the nearest-neighbor interpolation seemingly used in some format conversions to cause that effect

[woeful stirrup]

It was this one

[polar magnet]

ah so I was right

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/669620277080096788.webp?size=48

it's a cool effect tbh

further proof that 3X size is weird and unholy

1x 2x and 4x all have something in common

[woeful stirrup]

https://7tv.app/emotes/61443b057b14fdf700b939b1
this is the same one in V2

[winged jolt]

You could try exporting it with media encoder

[scarlet rover]

nothing happen after i tried upload 2.02MB GIF

also after clicking "Supported formats" there's no way to close the popup

[desert canopy]

this emote is strange

it seems that

the frame timings on this gif are all on the same time

raw.gif[0] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.043
raw.gif[1] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[2] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[3] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[4] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[5] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[6] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[7] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[8] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[9] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[10] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[11] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[12] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[13] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[14] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[15] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[16] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[17] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[18] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[19] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[20] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[21] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[22] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.041
raw.gif[23] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.036
raw.gif[24] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.036
raw.gif[25] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.036
raw.gif[26] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.036
raw.gif[27] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.036
raw.gif[28] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.036
raw.gif[29] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.036
raw.gif[30] GIF 112x112 112x112+0+0 8-bit sRGB 256c 0.010u 0:00.036

like looking at the frame timings

all the frames happen at the same time

or overlap

this is strange and obviously not what is supposed to happen and is likely a bad encoding although we should support this edge case

i will look into how this is handled so we can figure out what is actually supposed to happen when the image has such poor frame timings

[cloud drum]

yea

weird

[daring gale]

@desert canopy

[desert canopy]

i fixed it already

@woeful stirrup https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b4f7d42ca9268355f2b531

this emote

is a rare exception

i wont fix it.

https://cdn.7tv.dev/emote/62b4f7d42ca9268355f2b531/4x.gif

is also incorrect

the correct one is supposed to be like

the problem is each dot is a single pixel

which means when we resize them they get small and combine into bigger dots

or like in 3x

the ratio is just right so that the resize algorithm thinks the avg is a dot when its not

not worth the fix but very interesting

[woeful stirrup]

so would the old one i upload from V2 also be fucked?

[desert canopy]

where is the emote on main site?

can u link it

[woeful stirrup]

https://7tv.app/emotes/61443b057b14fdf700b939b1

it worked in V2

[desert canopy]

im confused

there isnt dots here?

is it just semi transparent pixels?

if u want semi transparent pixels

make semi transparent pixels

dont make dots hoping the image processor will make the semi transparent pixels for you

[woeful stirrup]

👍

[desert canopy]

although i will investigate a bit more here

[woeful stirrup]

i used dots cuz i couldnt think of another way of making semi transparent animations

gif wont allowed that, either solid or transparent

but some how in V2, the dots became semi-transparent pixels

so was wondering if it works the same here

[desert canopy]

i see

the resize algo we used in v2 was likely bilinear

which is what caused the semi transparent pixels

in v3 we used a different one

INTER_NEAREST_EXACT

which is what makes it pixelated aswell

im going to see if i can fix this

perhaps, we allow uploaders to select which resize algorithm to use

[woeful stirrup]

im guessing you use nearest neighbour cuz faster process time than bilinear?

[desert canopy]

no

it was entirely because bilinear merged with transparent pixels

so gif outputs looked really bad

but i suppose i could tinker with this a bit more

perhaps at render time of the gif i can remove semi transparent pixels

[desert canopy]

<@&857301549440696372> i looked into some of the failed images please try again now all of them should be resolved.

[scarlet rover]

[slate rose]

[summer goblet]

[desert canopy]

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/create

@woeful stirrup including ur strange emote

i fixed it

[cloud drum]

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b5d20b2ca9268355f2b83f

[desert canopy]

what ?

[cloud drum]

it's fixed

[scarlet rover]

i cant upload big .gif

[desert canopy]

then why tell me

[summer goblet]

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b5d2482ca9268355f2b84c

[desert canopy]

only tell me

if it doesnt work

[cloud drum]

ok

[desert canopy]

how big

[scarlet rover]

1.62MB and 2MB

[desert canopy]

what does it say?

[scarlet rover]

100% and freeze

png works fine

i tried upload this

[woeful stirrup]

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b5d2cf2ca9268355f2b860

[summer goblet]

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b5d2bb2ca9268355f2b85c Sadeg (.bmp)

[scarlet rover]

[desert canopy]

is this wrong?

[desert canopy]

ill look now

[summer goblet]

uploaded image

[desert canopy]

bmp

ok

we dont support it

[scarlet rover]

[woeful stirrup]

no it worked 👍

[desert canopy]

why it even let u upload

is strange

oh i see

[daring gale]

dont think it does but the upload page doesnt handle error i believe

or like the api doesnt return an error

[desert canopy]

i just pushed a commit to api

to make it return an error

[daring gale]

nice

[desert canopy]

if u try upload a bad file

dude

@daring gale

uploads fail

because nginx ingress has a max body size

[daring gale]

oh

raise it

[unkempt hill]

old bugs come back hard

[daring gale]

all of stage is running on Amazon web services atm

new infra new issues to think about

[desert canopy]

try now

[scarlet rover]

processing

works now

[desert canopy]

emote upload max is 6mb now

[scarlet rover]

so it was the limit that prevented me from uploading?

[desert canopy]

yeah

[scarlet rover]

[desert canopy]

also

https://cdn.7tv.dev/emote/62b5d6810bca997135a212c7/4x.gif

everyemote is a gif

just change the extension at the end

to .gif

https://cdn.7tv.dev/emote/62b5d6320bca997135a212bf/4x.gif @woeful stirrup

[scarlet rover]

[sterile stream]

why does this look different like this

[scarlet rover]

https://cdn.7tv.dev/emote/62b5d6260bca997135a212be/4x.gif

[desert canopy]

it looks bad

because ur emote has more colors

[scarlet rover]

yeah

[desert canopy]

in a single frame i think

https://cdn.7tv.dev/emote/62b5d6260bca997135a212be/1x.gif

the avif looks good tho

https://cdn.7tv.dev/emote/62b5d6260bca997135a212be/4x.avif

[scarlet rover]

yeah looks the same as webp

gif is so bad

[desert canopy]

i think its just becsause gif is limited to max of 200 colors on a single framee

[scarlet rover]

[desert canopy]

and the interpellation adds noise

[daring gale]

255 colors yea

[sterile stream]

its not even my emote

[desert canopy]

huh

[sterile stream]

[daring gale]

gif sucks thats why we dont use it to display emotes

[sterile stream]

oh wait

you are talking about docbozo

[scarlet rover]

[woeful stirrup]

#stage-discussion message
my 2038 is still stuck in loading

[scarlet rover]

[sterile stream]

[woeful stirrup]

[desert canopy]

i uploaded the same emote

now

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b5d8c10bca997135a212d4

its processing currently

oh it took longer than 2 min to process

[woeful stirrup]

oh yeah that's what i meant
processing, not loading

[desert canopy]

yeah

we max processing time at 2min

and av1 takes time

i guess i can bump it to 5min

[woeful stirrup]

no error msg when over 2 mins?

[desert canopy]

it should have been

[daring gale]

troy we should store a failure reason in the emote state

if it fails

right now the only indication that it failed is that we set the lifecycle to -2 FAILED

[desert canopy]

well i return the error

but it isnt helpful to users

since it says context canceled

[daring gale]

[desert canopy]

but

if it takes longer than 2min

its 100% because of the timeout

[sterile stream]

make it so if it fails uploading, it opens up a window and plays this https://youtu.be/51RqgCizcgo?t=19 instead

[half glade]

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b5dc9d0bca997135a212e1

[woeful stirrup]

[half glade]

still doesnt like this 999x100 - wont even process it

[cerulean cove]

can someone remove my tester role, the reaction thing no longer works fdm

[half glade]

is there like a "this ratio is too thin" kind of thing or why isnt it working

[woeful stirrup]

any error msg in the console?

[half glade]

it breaks somewhere between 384x65 and 384x76

[desert canopy]

interesting

i think its because

essentially, the image is so wide

that the ratio is like less than a pixel

when we resize it

3 : 1

like

urs is 9:1

when we resize it to be the right ratio

which would be

less than a pixel on 1x

so it fails to encode

[half glade]

[desert canopy]

not sure how to fix this

[half glade]

shouldn't 999x100 convert to somewhere around 384x38

[half glade]

for the super wide emotes:

1. Take the dimensions of the emote, (width÷height) W÷H = X
   2a. If X is higher than 3, take the width W and divide it with 384 then it should give a number R (W÷384=R), now take the height of the emote H and divide it with the previous number R. H÷R= new height (this would always be smaller than 128 therefore fitting inside a 384x128)
   2b. if X is smaller than 3: do whatever it currently does lmao

?

[winged jolt]

it seems like that if you upload really long emotes it just doesn't work and changes the emote site to this. It's 750 Frames so it should work like it does on the current site right?

[warped egret]

what is there to read

[charred surge]

[desert canopy]

[daring gale]

[inner sorrel]

Everyone stay shut and pretend everything is perfect

[warped egret]

[woeful stirrup]

👍 everything is perfect

[cloud drum]

[daring gale]

gonna be delayed a bit, having to optimize the data migration flow slightly or it'd take hours to complete

[cloud drum]

[cloud drum]

[daring gale]

[cloud drum]

testing time

[desert canopy]

im back

[cloud drum]

[desert canopy]

[cloud drum]

hey troy

[teal knoll]

will check when im home

[desert canopy]

@daring gale

we found an apartment

gonna move out in 6 days

[daring gale]

nice

[warped egret]

[wet quartz]

hi

[desert canopy]

@daring gale

did u see

yday we found a chinses 7tv user

[wet quartz]

allow me to participate moderation team

[desert canopy]

who had

and

@teal knoll made friends with him

[daring gale]

bc taiwan i think

[fierce cradle]

All my channel's emotes are unlisted.

[cloud drum]

[desert canopy]

he was actually pog

[warped egret]

holy shit

[desert canopy]

cdn emotes dont exist

yet

[daring gale]

old site is building, use new one for now

[cloud drum]

ok

[warped egret]

https://next.7tv.dev/emotes

bruh

[teal knoll]

i’ve been friends with him for a while

[teal knoll]

[cloud drum]

yea same raven

[fierce cradle]

idk if client-side

[warped egret]

omg

im admin

[daring gale]

client side bug

[cloud drum]

right

[warped egret]

are we supposed to see the admin tab?

[daring gale]

remember to try chatterino and the web extension, we arent really testing the website

[warped egret]

👍

[forest pawn]

[cloud drum]

[wet quartz]

@daring gale explain what im supposed to do as if i were mentally deficient (im not)

[daring gale]

#stage-notes

[teal knoll]

lemme know if you need help

[warped egret]

this guy wants to be mod

[wet quartz]

who're you

[forest pawn]

So we use the extension as normal?

Got it

[daring gale]

remember to disable the live one though

[forest pawn]

Yeah I yeeted that one off my chrome

[teal knoll]

fuck you

[main condor]

Woah woah woah woah

[cloud drum]

wooow

[teal knoll]

he’s my friend it’s fine

we are close

[wet quartz]

^

[cloud drum]

[teal knoll]

see even jeebs agrees

[cloud drum]

words hurt lipton

[daring gale]

also let me know if browsing around feels faster

[cloud drum]

[teal knoll]

true tho

sorry jeebs

[wet quartz]

[teal knoll]

oh ok

[daring gale]

all the queries have been significantly optimized so the wait times should be rather low

[cloud drum]

how do i disable the 7tv that's live

[forest pawn]

Browsing around twitch?

[daring gale]

anywhere where you're pinging the stage api

[forest pawn]

Anything in this stage connected to name paints?

[daring gale]

Uh, in theory paints should work

lemme check

[forest pawn]

Im not getting my paint

[daring gale]

ah

no they wont work atm

will fix that

[warped egret]

browser cant find the 7tv file

[daring gale]

wdym

[forest pawn]

You unpack the zip

In a folder

[warped egret]

i did that

[forest pawn]

select the folder

Dont go in the folder

Select it

[warped egret]

[dull siren]

don't know if i'm dumb but i don't see the emotes

[forest pawn]

I can

[warped egret]

wait which one do i disable

[dull siren]

strange

[forest pawn]

Bottom

[dull siren]

oh i think i don't have the good version

[warped egret]

👍

[forest pawn]

https://i.vgy.me/nG0WR4.png

Check there

[dull siren]

oh i do

[forest pawn]

Hmmm

Is the normal one still active too?

[dull siren]

nope, i did make sure to desactivate it

i'm restarting the browser just in case (chrome)

[forest pawn]

Ok

[dull siren]

[winged jolt]

chatterino doesnt show emotes either

[polar magnet]

👶 💢 I can't use my seven television emotes in mr. cow's chat!

[winged jolt]

[forest pawn]

I use em through FFZ and it shows em

[dull siren]

oh you have the extension activated through ffz that's why you see them

[winged jolt]

[forest pawn]

Nonono

I use em through FFZ emote picker

[unkempt hill]

the one distributed through ffz doesnt have any of the stage stuff

[forest pawn]

I have 7TV stage

[warped egret]

[wet quartz]

[dull siren]

no what i mean is that in ffz you have 7tv like that

gonna try like that

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale just out of curiosity does the built in ffz addon in the web ext have the right urls

I dont remember if it pulls from the extension or not

[unkempt hill]

it might use its own urls

[dull siren]

yeah now it shows

[daring gale]

disable ffz then

if its not working

[warped egret]

well the chatterino doesnt show emotes

[daring gale]

iknow

[dull siren]

you mean remove the extension @daring gale ?

[daring gale]

if you have ffz it might not work so disable ffz

is what i mean

[cloud drum]

it seems to be working ok

i got it installed

[dull siren]

yeah you right, without ffz it works

[cloud drum]

[dull siren]

yeah i don't see them either

[wet quartz]

same

[cloud drum]

can't even scroll down here

hmm

[forest pawn]

Its not real time updates

When you add emotes

Reload page

[warped egret]

i see it

[daring gale]

#stage-notes read pls

[forest pawn]

And do it through stage website

Stage seems to work fine with FFZ enabled tho anatole, emotes update in their emote picker fine

[winged jolt]

probably bc ffz just gets them from the old api?

[warped egret]

[forest pawn]

No bc I add through the next website

[daring gale]

what do you mean by emotes update

[forest pawn]

It updates to the emotes I have enabled

Even though I update on the stage API

[daring gale]

thats not possible

[forest pawn]

You can say what ya want Anatole

But its fetchin em

[dull siren]

yeah same for me

[daring gale]

what are you trying to tell me with this still image

[cloud drum]

[forest pawn]

Thats the FFZ emote menu, and its finding my stage 7TV emotes

[dull siren]

i can reproduce that also

[daring gale]

okay but it's impossible for you to be getting instant updates because the event api is down

[forest pawn]

Naahhh

After a page reload

[dull siren]

yeah after refresh

[daring gale]

ok

[warped egret]

the emote i just uploaded shows on chatterino https://next.7tv.dev/emotes/62b79a060eafd3b1c66f391e

[daring gale]

globals should work now

[dull siren]

yeah they do

[daring gale]

the chatterino build is incorrectly pointing to the stage cdn, so you're not seeing emotes from production

[gleaming dagger]

can everyone access /admin on 7tv.dev?

[daring gale]

i pushed a patch so you can re-download when its done

[warped egret]

👍

[daring gale]

sure but there isnt much in there

[gleaming dagger]

ok just making sure you know

[forest pawn]

Only Anatoles name paint producer

[dull siren]

error i got for paints @daring gale

[warped egret]

[dull siren]

if that helps

[forest pawn]

They're disabled

or well not working

[daring gale]

its an internal error, i know what it is already

[dull siren]

ok nice

[forest pawn]

Was the first thing I told him

[warped egret]

https://tenor.com/view/this-life-pawpaw-cheii-nawa-o-stressed-gif-14950374

[forest pawn]

Mi paints are holy

[dull siren]

oh yeah i just saw, i'm blind

[warped egret]

who is admin bugged

is that troy

[wet quartz]

everything on youtubes side seems to be working per usual aside from selected channel emotes not appearing

[teal knoll]

is there anything that should be looked at on the chatterino stage?

like the emotes specifically or?

[daring gale]

just whether it works exactly as it did before

[teal knoll]

okay imma check it

could be just me, but i dont see any 7tv badge

[daring gale]

because there are no cosmetics

[teal knoll]

oh right

but everything else should be good from here emotes wise

[wet quartz]

also dont know if it's been brought up. but aliased emotes arent working by their aliased name

in native

[daring gale]

uh possible i overlooked that

[teal knoll]

opening 7tv emotes is good as well when opening the emote from the next.7tv.dev website 👍

everything seems good from the chatterino stage, other than the cosmetics its good

[wet quartz]

yeah this emote in this channel is aliased docLeave but is only appearing under its original name in chat and in emote select

[warped egret]

bruh

[daring gale]

@dull siren @teal knoll @forest pawn cosmetics should work now

[teal knoll]

okay will test again

[daring gale]

@wet quartz can you let me know if aliases are working now

[teal knoll]

wait should i be on a new chatterino nightly for this?

[daring gale]

no, just restart

[teal knoll]

ok

still dont see it

[wet quartz]

selected alias is working but everything is appearing like this

[teal knoll]

its a cosmetic thing, from what i hear

[wet quartz]

ye thats fine, alias's are fixed tho

[daring gale]

ah classic the cosmetics endpoint is ddosing the db again

i forgot to cache it

[teal knoll]

[sinful forum]

(idk what that means)

[daring gale]

thats an extension bug if you mean the autocomplete previews appearing as broken images

[trail fox]

Wtf is this

I’m muting

[warped egret]

what if i disable 7tv on ffz

[trail fox]

Hi Lipton

[teal knoll]

hello

[trail fox]

Lipton I want to be your land lord

I wanna enslave you to grind link levels for me

😈

[teal knoll]

...

[warped egret]

someone

ANSWER

my questions

[dull siren]

@warped egret that's what i got when disabling 7tv on ffz with the addon

if it's your question

[warped egret]

yes

YES

YESSS

[dull siren]

go here if you want to remove it from ffz

[warped egret]

aight

danke

[unkempt hill]

if you disable it from ffz that way emotes wont load at all

if ffz is installed 7tv diverts rendering to it

disabling it from within ffz just makes emotes disabled entirely

[warped egret]

now wot

[daring gale]

Event API should now work if you're using the stage extension

Try swapping out your entire emote set and enjoy the spam

[forest pawn]

@daring gale I dont see my paint, do I need to select one on the staging api?

I also just tried to add an emote, the event worked, got a message but the emote wasnt added

[forest pawn]

So paints are not in front, but behind? Or Im blind idk

Confirmed with the user, he's using the fairy glow, Im seeing the glow but not the colors

(Firefly also made a user's name black/dark)

[calm ferry]

Do I need some dank permissions to add emotes on the stage env? Because the buttons to add emotes aren't showing

[forest pawn]

No you just do it through the staging site

You also need to select an emote set after pressing use emote

[daring gale]

Permission bits are slightly scuffed, will fix them manually in a bit (ba dum tss)

Also 4x size isn't there because I typoed

[forest pawn]

Nicely done Anatole

And the cosmetics?

[daring gale]

What's wrong with cosmetics?

[forest pawn]

scroll up

[daring gale]

[forest pawn]

Paints not showing, could be behind the twitch color

[daring gale]

Uh perhaps a mistake in the data structure

Will check

[forest pawn]

One user had the glow of the fairy glow paint

But not the colors

[daring gale]

I think I know why

[forest pawn]

Firefly made someones name dark

[daring gale]

I changed the name of gradient gen functions but must have forgot to translate them for v2

[forest pawn]

Ah

Then we have Events API seeing you add emotes but they're not added

[daring gale]

Does selecting a cosmetic works

Gotta do that thru old site

[forest pawn]

Does that go instant or 10mins?

Badges seem not to update nor does FFZ find them when looking at the add-on in the badges tab

@daring gale So changing paint seems to do something https://i.vgy.me/PYpRrd.png

But dunno what

@daring gale So the paint I had before turning to staging is showing

Not the one I selected now

[daring gale]

oke will look, selecting might not have been implemented correctly

i did change a lot of things since so it prob just broke

[forest pawn]

Does staging include the immediate changing of paints

Or still 10mins delay?

[daring gale]

10 mins delay because it's still v2, even if it's simulated via v3

[forest pawn]

Ok

[daring gale]

it works the same fundamentally

[forest pawn]

Badges are not in staging

[warped egret]

[warped egret]

where update

[daring gale]

away for a few days so no updates but release date is scheduled for july 12

[woeful stirrup]

V3 release stream?

[warped egret]

[daring gale]

nah won't be streamed because it's literally just gonna be us moving data over and inputting credentials like 10 times a minute

[elder lichen]

Chatting cp ./v2/data.db ./v3/data.db

[daring gale]

true , should just do that

[forest pawn]

Cant wait for the personal emotes slots

[calm ferry]

mv v2/data.db v3/data.db, no need to keep the old one

[daring gale]

I wish

Im not kidding when I say there's no similarity between v2 and v3 in terms of data

Everything that could have changed has changed

Really noticed that when I was building the simulation of v2

Ie for channel emotes
I have to query the users connected accounts, get twitch account, get the emote set attached to the twitch account , then get the emotes inside set, then send those emotes back as "channel emotes"

[warped egret]

what is he talking about

[calm ferry]

How do I get a user's id in the v3 gql api?

In v2, I could do

query getUser($id: String!) { user(id: $id) { id } }

In v3, I have to pass the user's id to query a specific user (but that's what I want to get).
Also: there's a typo here https://github.com/SevenTV/API/blob/02bc70275495f4268e7635d157afd305f017920a/internal/gql/v3/resolvers/query/query.go#L41

And: Is it correct that updates to emote-sets not include the actor and emote?

[calm ferry]

And2: specifying a non-object-id in the target when subscribing in the v3 event-api should probably return some kind of error/warning

[daring gale]

It is missing data, not a full implementation yet

[daring gale]

I believe you can't query by username / Conn I'd in v3 yet, i haven't got around to that yet

[daring gale]

Won't take long though once I get to it

[calm ferry]

It's fine I was just experimenting

[daring gale]

Jesus that message took 2 hours to send im in Uganda rn sorry

[upper rain]

could i get tester role ❤️

[quasi ore]

yo can i also get the tester role

[oblique inlet]

Can I get tester role

[teal knoll]

no

[oblique inlet]

Reported

[wintry lake]

Can I get tester role?

[teal knoll]

done

[wintry lake]

thx

[teal knoll]

👍

[sick sedge]

.

Why does it not load images on android 10 chrome browser

both firefox and chrome

ain't working

[topaz sandal]

I reacted

give me role

pls

🙂

[fierce cradle]

done

[fierce cradle]

done

[quasi ore]

ty

[merry elk]

pls also give me the role

[desert canopy]

<@&857301549440696372> gonna need testers for the event api update on chatterino
try renaming, adding/removing emotes give me feedback on how we can do it differently.
https://github.com/SevenTV/chatterino7/actions/runs/2602879583
is where u can download the nightly version

just extract it and place it over ur current install of chatterino

its a zip inside a zip

[teal knoll]

[warped egret]