#stage-discussion
mint shell
topaz bobcat
just use the damn extension 
?
daring gale
and all it would take is an email to twitch's legal team for them to look into it
topaz bobcat
thats called global twitch emotes
daring gale
and both extensions are gone
twitch has taken down extensions for having their globals before
inner sorrel
Lemao
daring gale
they'll go on a rampage again eventually
shut vector
twitch
solar kindle
just use the damn extension <:LULE:819017973879668766> ?
installing more extensions. no thanks
but understandable if no twitch globals supported
mint shell
just dont use youtube
daring gale
yeah twitch could just take down the extension from the store at any time
solar kindle
daring gale
your browser 
mint shell
55?
solar kindle
what on earth do u need that many for
mint shell
how do u avoid extentions overlapping and breaking ur browser
solar kindle
I got 64gb. But I still wont needlessly enable all that shit
"and the basic extensions"
topaz bobcat
last time I did that it took a really long time
shut vector
me with 8gb and constant 90%+ memory usage
peak tiger
I have one browser for everything but watching streams that has a fuck ton of extensions and one for watching streams that only has like 2 extensions
topaz bobcat
I only have useful extensions that help make my browsing experience better
or that make it faster
or that make it nicer in looks
inner sorrel
Volume master, ffz and some roblox shit that i only use because their ui is shite
topaz bobcat
volume master imagine not having a media control on your keyboard
polar magnet
twitch has taken down extensions for having their globals before
Twitch even nuked m0xyy's 5Head sub emote because it's "too similar" to 4Head
that was cringe
daring gale
yes twitch doesn't like anyone using their global emotes outside of twitch whatsoever
5head would fall into fair use but ig it's on their site so
polar magnet
that's just so weird
they're the company that literally stole LUL from BTTV
without getting permission from the photographer
daring gale
but yeah basically not trying to get into twitch's crosshairs
polar magnet
Yeah stay away from globals
daring gale
their legal team is relentless with that shit
shut vector
mixer
daring gale
if an extension with almost 200K users just adds their globals they will nuke it 100%
polar magnet
But imagine if Twitch stole a 7tv global and then filed a cease and desist for 7tv
🇹🇫 🤏 twitch
shut vector
french territories pinching twitch 
inner sorrel
But imagine if Twitch stole a 7tv global and then filed a cease and desist for 7...
Add Pepe as a global and claim every variation as "too similar"
shut vector
this is the first build, give him some time 
inner sorrel
its ok im just joking 
💦
merry elk
Global Twitch emotes got a fork they added 7tv for live chat may be those code can help
peak tiger
Hes way ahead of you thanks for the suggestion though
polar magnet
lol
merry elk
I am not a dev I thought it would help 
peak tiger
I am not a dev I thought it would help <:peepoSad:855220049605689354>
I mean it would probably if he was still on the stage
merry elk
eternal iron
Is the 7tv settings broken for anyone else?
daring gale
on the test build? yes they would be
havent added that back in after the gigantic refactor
zinc canyon
don't know if it isn't included in the extension or a bug but for me on edge, when I open up the emote menu in twitch and try to click an emote, it wont put the emote code in chat
daring gale
feel free to use that test build over the course of today, even on twitch and let me know if it performs correctly
fossil dagger
i notice a screen flicker whenever i open the emote menu on yt
stiff sinew
clicking an emote doesnt put it into the text bar 
fossil dagger
looks like the menu position opens in the wrong spot then the screen flickers instantly and it goes to the proper spot
the emotes show up when typed out tho
stiff sinew
what tf is youtube, i searched "live gaming" ???
fossil dagger
no tabbing 
stiff sinew
youtube is a wild place
stiff sinew
yeah ik 
i just wanted to see what would show up
fossil dagger
Tested on Chrome
- tooltips work
- menu pops up but flickers on opening
- clicking the emotes in the menu doesn't put it in the text bar
- historical messages work
- (twitch) animated avatars work properly
daring gale
also if you're using twitch compare your cpu usage between the live extension and this build, i think it should roughly halved
dire brook
also if you're using twitch compare your cpu usage between the live extension an...
I compared it to YouTube "live" chat - wanna hear the results?! the result is YT sucks.
stiff sinew
also if you're using twitch compare your cpu usage between the live extension an...
finally removed the bitcoin miner
stone zinc
7tv menu is working for you guys ? 
eternal iron
7tv menu is working for you guys ? <:peepoOkayDank:859217713578770472>
no, it hasn't been re-implemented in the latest stage build
mint shell
will animated emotes be added to the chatterino fork as well?
dire brook
wdym, animated pfps?
mint shell
yeah im dumb
dire brook
nah, that's fine, good question
but idk if that is on the 7TV side. Maybe, belongs to 🐍's area of work
novel portal
🐍 does work for both sides tho
daring gale
Those who had the test build while using twitch today, is the performance better than 1.6.2? (cpu/ram usage, visible lag , etc)
turbid ivy
elder lichen
cerulean valve
lunar fable
dire brook
:dinkDonkDitch:
turbid ivy
@peak tiger 
do you want to explain yourself?
merry elk
frank tree
turbid ivy
do you think I'm retarded? https://cdn.zneix.eu/6yuQZQ9.png
merry elk
I have a ghost ping too
mint shell
clever sail
turbid ivy
@mint shell wdym with animated pfps in chatterino? 
it's a chat app that doesn't have pfps anywhere
lunar fable
Not cool 
turbid ivy
unless you mean the pfp shown in usercard
dire brook
<@!224647503037988874> wdym with animated pfps in chatterino? <:FeelsDankMan:854...
users' cards
mint shell
<@!224647503037988874> wdym with animated pfps in chatterino? <:FeelsDankMan:854...
when you click on people's name in chatterino u can see the usercard with pfp
turbid ivy
that's just information pulled straight from Helix API
mint shell
ah
turbid ivy
technically it'd be possible to override these
mint shell
yeah fuck the helix api
turbid ivy
depending on how animated pfps will be implemented
mint shell
merry elk
helix makes me want to twist my dick off
turbid ivy
any reason you pinged all of us?
mint shell
are there any plans about it?
guessing that anatole didn't quite understand what i meant i assume not
daring gale
@turbid ivy https://api.7tv.app/v2/cosmetics/avatars
turbid ivy
so it's basically overriding user's avatars with emotes?
daring gale
this is a map of a sha-256 of an avatar url mapped to a 7tv cdn url
merry elk
Was the ping actually for needed stage testers or....
unkempt hill
<@&817085632378699878>
daring gale
altho for chatterino it might be possible to do it differently
merry elk
Was the ping actually for needed stage testers or....
daring gale
no cyclone is retarded
merry elk
aight
turbid ivy
would there be a way to map by twitch userid / twitch login?
peak tiger
@peak tiger
turbid ivy
if so, I don't see an issue with trying to implement it in c2 usercard
daring gale
yeah for that i would just request the user object, since it's only on user card
avatar_url
turbid ivy
what I am saying is that fetch animated avatars could be done, similarly to how badges are loaded
or rather links to these
turbid ivy
we already make like 3 api calls upon opening a usercard
mint shell
why not 4 bloat the app
turbid ivy
I think we completely misunderstand each other
daring gale
it can be an async call, doesn't have to wait for it to finish if the api is down or w/e
turbid ivy
no that's not what I mean
too many outgoing api calls
it used to be 4 or 5 I think, they were async as well
or rather were just waiting for the onSuccess from first one
daring gale
turbid ivy
but that's cancer and we are against adding more shit
daring gale
i mean i can make an id map if you want
turbid ivy
someone requested "fetch live status"
discussion there basically concluded as "we don't want to add more api calls to the usercard"
yea yea, that's what would be better I think
anatole, are badges still rest only?
oh wait, later on you'd want third party to use rest anyway
daring gale
yeah, chatterino should move to REST as well
turbid ivy
I was thinking about fetching animated avatar and badge over gql but yea, it should move on later anyway
daring gale
GQL is moving to in-house use only
daring gale
not being banned or anything from being used by bots and whatnot if they need something not in REST
just ideally not used in emote clients, since it's difficult to cache gql
and it cant be cached by cloudflare
discord
just ideally not used in emote clients, since it's difficult to cache gql
turbid ivy
oh so it's not only me with discord breaking, good to know
makes sense
I was just goofing around, joking about twitch's gql
daring gale
turbid ivy
rest should be easier for people to understand in code later on anyway, so np
turbid ivy
yea yea, that'd work
yea yea, that'd work
just a nitpick regarding rest design, maybe we could be consistent with the user_identifier on badges endpoint
daring gale
yea v2 REST is fine to use, v2 GQL is pretty bad though
turbid ivy
something for v3 perhaps ppSlide
so yea, tl;dr it may be possible to have animated avatars in c2
daring gale
yeah i started moving things to /cosmetics
yeah i started moving things to /cosmetics
/badges rewrites to /cosmetics currently
turbid ivy
oh sweet
daring gale
and in v3 it'll definitely use a better format
inner sorrel
who tf pinged
daring gale
notice how /badges isn't an array but an object going ```json
{
"badges": []
}
😡
dire brook
@peak tiger
daring gale
that was actually on purpose since there are plans to add more stuff in the future
inner sorrel
@peak tiger 🇹🇫 🤜 🔔
shut vector
@peak tiger
daring gale
i had planned to name it /cosmetics for awhile for that reason
i had planned to name it /cosmetics for awhile for that reason
shut vector
@peak tiger
stiff sinew
Those who had the test build while using twitch today, is the performance better...
yes
dire brook
idk, if that was mentioned but twitch Global emotes auto-completion doesn't work
daring gale
@unkempt hill do you know if there are any other places on youtube where a chat room might be
(https:\/\/[a-z]*.youtu(be)?.(com|be)\/)(?:(watch|video|live_chat)).*
🤔 I'm not sure matching .be is entirely neccissary
also that regex is invalid
you need a \ before those periods
other wise they match all characters
unkempt hill
and it wont match any youtube links that dont have a subdomain
since it will try to match https://.youtube
not https://youtube
polar magnet
It's almost hilarious how so many sites just straight up refuse to work with youtu.be URLs
peak tiger
its not working on this chat for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I83XWCSBgSc
unkempt hill
<@!727399831177265232> do you know if there are any other places on youtube wher...
also whats the point of the non-capture group here? (?:(watch|video|live_chat))
that would produce an identical result to just having the regular group thats on the inside
since the group on the inside will capture anyway
peak tiger
Oh nvm I think it just doesnt work on firefox all together
unkempt hill
also @daring gale is it not better to just search for the iframe with the chat in it anyway?
daring gale
it's only an iframe on /watch
unkempt hill
that would always have live_chat
daring gale
everywhere else it's not iframe
which made things pretty cancer
on popout and studio.youtube.com it's integrated in the main page
unkempt hill
should you not just search on every page then?
on every youtube page
since its also a spa
you wont know when the url changes
the chat could be injected at any moment on any youtube page
daring gale
i check for url changes every half second
unkempt hill
no?
mutationobserver looking for the custom element yt-live-chat-render
then hooking that custom element once you find it
and removing the mutation observer
daring gale
how is doing DOM lookups or mutation observer more efficient than checking for a string
are u dense
daring gale
they still take up cpu time
especially on complex pages
i would have to put a mutation observer almost at the root to do this
that's terrible
checking a string every half second takes nothing
that's how i do it for twitch too. it's just the best way to do it
daring gale
wtf is this
unkempt hill
youtube uses the customelements web api
for alot of its components
if you hook that you'll know whenever one is added
or renders
daring gale
BatChest more obscure web APIs i never heard of
unkempt hill
its not that obscure its just new
daring gale
@unkempt hill but theres no event listener on the CustomElements API?
not sure how thats better than polling document.location.href and then doing a querySelector for yt-live-chat-renderer
like, MutationObserver at the root (or almost) would destroy performance
DOM lookups would be the same as polling location but way more expensive
and idk how to use this
Wait
YT has a yt-navigate-start event listener
unkempt hill
@daring gale you dont need an event listener
just hook it and for future elements you dont need to query anything
you just need to query once
daring gale
wdym hook.. the get thing returns a function and i dont know what to do with it
daring gale
seems overly complicated
unkempt hill
how so?
thats by far the most efficiant way to do it
because you dont have to poll anything
or wait for anything
daring gale
is it supported everywhere tho?
unkempt hill
even on navigate you'd have to wait
daring gale
caniuse says only 74%
unkempt hill
if its supported in enough places that youtube uses it
I'm sure it would be safe enough
daring gale
yeah but i assume youtube has a fallback
unkempt hill
and you could still fallback to querying the dom
unkempt hill
ok I'll try
daring gale
liike do u just overwrite the func
daring gale
.. uuh yea
stiff sinew
programming moment
shut vector
inner sorrel
:PeepoPopcorn: i dont get anything you guys are saying
daring gale
ill implement youtube's listener as the fallback over the location polling and if that custom elements thing work / makes it load faster than sure
inner sorrel
?????????????????
daring gale
oh
nice
@unkempt hill the youtube navigation event also gives me the channel ID 
i dont have to scrape it from internals and/or the DOM anymore
because youtube stores the channel ID in completely random places depending on where you're at
im batchesting rn
shut vector
OMG YOUTUBE IS SO COOL
inner sorrel
im jamming to this code
unkempt hill
@daring gale How early can you guarantee code execution in the tab?
daring gale
im just gonna use the event
it has all the info i need
altho i guess could also use that waiting for the chat instead of querySelector
unkempt hill
it seems you cannot redefine elements
daring gale
ah oke thought so
unkempt hill
however we can still hook the define method
it just depends on when we execute
if we do at document-start we'd be fine
unkempt hill
still in the prototyping phase
daring gale
oke let me know if you figure it out
unkempt hill
not 100% sure how I want to do this
I think that would be a nice solution though
@daring gale do you know if that event triggers after the dom has been updated tho?
daring gale
theres a start and finish event
unkempt hill
if thats the case its probably not that big of a deal to do a query for the chat
but if you dont know when the chat is loaded then it might be a problem
daring gale
im using finish because it's the one with info
yeah the chat isnt guaranteed to be loaded i dont think
especially as it can be in an iframe
unkempt hill
yea
daring gale
which has its own window
so for now im polling document.querySelector('yt-live-chat-renderer') for about 10 seconds after navigates
every 500ms or so
unkempt hill
you can already probably guess my stance on that 
daring gale
yeah it's not pretty
i guess i could use a mutation observer here
prob slightly less expensive than polling
and faster load time
unkempt hill
I think hooking customElements is a good idea here
since we then can also hook lots of other things too
daring gale
it would be if you can get it to work yeah
unkempt hill
I mean it just depends on if we execute before youtubes scripts
if we can, we can just hook the define method
daring gale
there's really no guarantee of that
unkempt hill
how do you inject the script?
daring gale
the content script runs at document_start, however it's now only used to inject a script tag into the page itself
unkempt hill
injected scripts added via appendelement execute immediately
daring gale
perhaps if you hook in the content script itself
unkempt hill
but not under all circumstances
you cant do that
the contentscript lives in its own context
unfortunately
daring gale
right
unkempt hill
firefox has a cringe way of accessing the page script context
but theres nothing like that on chrome
daring gale
yeah so i think no guarantee of running before youtube, content script will, but the page injection can only happen whenever the browser allows it to
daring gale
emotes load instantly now 
could be even faster if i make it a mutationobserver but im lazy ill do it later tonight
shut vector
that's a pag right there
daring gale
this is a chonker PR fr fr
48 files changed
1331 additions, 972 deletions 
thats the entire codebase changed
unkempt hill
your entire code base is only 1000 lines long?
unkempt hill
I was gonna say where the fuck is the other 1 mb coming from
in the content script packs
daring gale
well the packed version would be bigger
cuz typescript lets me do a fuckton of shortcuts
but when compiled to js it's all ugly
unkempt hill
just write better code for head
daring gale
it's good typescript code but i dont care about what webpack does when compilng it to JS
unkempt hill
COPIUM it's good typescript code
daring gale
stfu how is it not good
daring gale
what
unkempt hill
daring gale
altho i made a big fucking effort to type them
unkempt hill
daring gale
just look at Twitch.ts & YouTube.ts
unkempt hill
but also you shouldn't ever have to use as any
that fucks up a bunch of shit
just type it as an object with unknown values
daring gale
i do need to use it in some occasions because it's strict ts
and sometimes there are things i dont know the type of
usually just bad types in actual web standards
like for example this will make typescript mald ```ts
window.addEventListener('', (ev: CustomEvent<{ cum: true }>) => {})
because CustomEvent is different structurally, even tho it's an abstraction of Event
also some instances where i have to do object lookups where the actual possible values are unknown and couldn't be known
unkempt hill
couldn't you just declare somewhere in some utility file that CustomEvent is an extension of event
the same way you can declare that the window object has special nonstandard parameters
daring gale
all instances where i used as any were 100% necessary and a last resort
yeah it could be done that way but eShrug
it's annoying to get vscode to recognize it
so i can end up with typescript compiling it fine but vscode will complain
daring gale
2.0.0 may be going live tomorrow
shut vector
olive iris
daring gale
7TV Theater Mode
steel patio
holy pag
inner sorrel
@daring gale
IS 7tv Also gonna work on premiere?
I guess so since its the same chat
daring gale
it should
inner sorrel
stiff sinew
daring gale
i made an icon for it
stiff sinew
my eyes
daring gale
pretty simplistic i guess, just like youtube's theater mode icon but with chat
stiff sinew
oooh true theater mode looks soo good
oh yea btw settings button on twitch is missing in both 2.0.0 patches
stiff sinew
ah gotcha
quasi carbon
Test build 3 loads okay, all emotes show up(firefox) but the gui fooled me not updating instantly and the "Allow sending the same message twice" does not stick on refresh.
daring gale
(menu will load but doesn't actually work atm)
the settings is the one thing that needs some extra work after the big refactor
quasi carbon
Aye all good then
hazy obsidian
@daring gale dank told me to report a problem here, so:
while in ur big screen when you do miniplayer its black screen
daring gale
big zi youve reached your trolling quota today
further trolling will be met with fire and fury
hazy obsidian
novel portal
stiff sinew
. . .
daring gale
Let me know of your experience with the true theater mode feature, there are a few UI artifacts but most are pretty minor and easily avoided
hazy obsidian
if i speak
worn granite
clicking emotes from the menu, doesn't add it to the textbox until i type something
daring gale
gonna fix up the last few tasks and submit to the stores tonight
If successful 2.0.0 goes live Sept 16th @ 9:00 PM CEST
mint shell
eternal iron
What's the main focus after 2.0.0?
daring gale
possibly the emote versioning system
and website v2 / api v3
id like to release the emote versioning before halloween
indigo magnet
zero-width emotes don't work on youtube.
dire brook
fully agree with mentioned order
emote packs / versions -> WS overhaul -> the rest
peak tiger
Idk if this was mentioned but if you hide and show chat the emotes dont load back again
dire brook
that "Collapse" button? or did U mean YT chat?
worn granite
https://i.nuuls.com/wGazA.gif
did u guys ignoble understand this?
peak tiger
on youtube chat
daring gale
did u guys ignoble understand this?
known but wontfix for now. youtube's input box is very internalized
worn granite
👍
daring gale
difficult to give it the correct states
dire brook
btw, maybe special buttons (like emote menu/true theatre mod and potential future ones) in red color for YT, not blue
peak tiger
daring gale
https://i.imgur.com/yHPl8mU.gif
wontfix for 2.0.0
just type any char after inserting an emote for now
peak tiger
Alright sounds good ive just been adding a space
Also what about the extra bit of scroll bar space on the theater mode?
peak tiger
muted dew
clicking the bttv tab in the emote menu on youtube shows the bttv and ffz emotes on my channel and ffz tab only shows global
using the yt room in #stage-notes
worn granite
https://i.nuuls.com/N7Fv_.gif for a whole second or so i do so the original profile picture of the user
not sure if it's a bug or unfixable
daring gale
it's like that while the extension is still loading
no easy way around it as the extension feature that would make it possible to avoid this is going away
dire brook
btw, nicknames (on twitch) flicker time-to-time for me
very rarely occurs and looks like that glitch/flicker bug with "COMING SOON" on /subscribe page
novel portal
https://i.nuuls.com/N7Fv_.gif for a whole second or so i do so the original prof...
Copesen eggy is real
daring gale
creating a stage channel on the chrome store in order to test permission stuff. this might delay the release depending on how long google takes to review
turns out adding new permissions to an extension without causing it to disable for everyone is tricky and id like to avoid botching this
dire brook
"stage channel"?
daring gale
stage version of the extension.
dire brook
oh, thx
daring gale
aka beta, w/e
dire brook
I thought that meant like YT Stage Channel :3Head:
river rock
hey ladies 
daring gale
elfi 
by the way this build won't work on youtube as the permissions purposely havent been added. This is what is being tested, there's going to be an update pushed later which should give you a popup asking for YT permissions
twilit star
yo
worn granite
left bar flickering
i couldn't replicate it very good since i can't have gif very long
novel portal
empirre stream = hide chat
crisp saffron
mint shell
daring gale
might have to revert to manifest v2, apparently it's not possible to have optional permissions on v3
@unkempt hill actually wtf is google doing 
i thought v3 was gonna do make all permissions optional by default but it did the exact opposite
now it's always required
dire brook
daring gale
yeah but it will quietly disable itself for everyone
so people would just be confused why is 7tv not working
and ultimately would lead to the loss of most users
shut vector
in my experience, whenever an extension required more perms, it always pops up and asks to re-enable
dire brook
+youtube/google sucks
shut vector
i can see people clicking off the prompt without reading though LULW
daring gale
rare 5 minute chrome approval 
eternal iron
Whitelisted as always safe 
daring gale
maybe yeah, it might have been whitelisted because it counts as a beta
usually takes 6-12h to get approved
shut vector
mint shell
shut vector
mint shell
pag?
dire brook
done
daring gale
ooh forgot to remove that frick i guess that means it works though
yeah i guess thats good now
shut vector
i enabled permissions but is 7tv still disabled on yt?
daring gale
yeah it wont load rn, you werent actually meant to get the popup now
mint shell
you get the popup every time u reinstall
shut vector
mint shell
@daring gale just a question, is the events api really buggy or am i doing smth wrong
daring gale
it is
mint shell
gotcha
dire brook
yt support in stage build later today/tomorrow?
daring gale
yeah stage build is getting yt in a bit
eternal iron
Is settings supposed to be gone from the stage build again?
Nvm, found it in the top menu
worn granite
https://i.nuuls.com/ZtxK7.png add the badge to the usercard?
or do i post it in #suggestions
dire brook
idk if that's possible, as U can see FFZ Supporter bagde isn't shown there as well, only twitch native ones
daring gale
it's possible, would just need to hook into that
dire brook
do that, if will have time by chance
why didn't FFZ do that?! and FFZ:AP
daring gale
thank god i created a stage build
unkempt hill
eternal iron
7TV is gone 
unkempt hill
🦀
unkempt hill
unkempt hill
I stopped taking adderal and now I am pepega
daring gale
peak tiger
Take vyvanse
daring gale
yeah im glad my brain was wrinkly enough i didn't just push an update with a new permission like that
this isn't even well documented
novel portal
wrinkly brain DansGame
unkempt hill
logically brain wrinkles cannot equal intelegence
daring gale
almost nowhere it tells you the extension gets disabled automatically
novel portal
my brain is smooth and cute ✨
unkempt hill
but they also dumb sometimes
daring gale
elfi
eternal iron
my brain is smooth and cute ✨
Have you checked?
novel portal
logically brain wrinkles cannot equal intelegence
its about the surface
smooth has less surface
daring gale
ok the stage extension is definitely whitelisted
5 minute approval again
that helps a lot
unkempt hill
inb4 exact same extension goes live on the used one and they reject it
daring gale
google doesn't reject anything
dire brook
daring gale
checksum won't be the same anyway cuz diff version
unkempt hill
diff cum
daring gale
2.0.0.xxxx vs 2.0.0
unkempt hill
2.0.0.XXX is the version you have to install to see nsfw emotes now
(NOT STREAM SAFE)
(GONE WRONG
daring gale
uninstall and install again @dire brook @eternal iron @merry elk @peak tiger @shut vector @mint shell @river rock
this time the permission popup is out (no youtube support), i am going to push another update in ~10-20 mins to see if it prompts after the update
dire brook
dinkDonkDitch
river rock
when you didn't install to begin with 
daring gale
or install that works too
merry elk
same cock link?
dire brook
no pop-out this time? ok?
daring gale
yeah no pop out, that's what is being tested
merry elk
oh wow
mint shell
setting my timer
eternal iron
Installed
merry elk
shut vector
so wait for the update to occur naturally?
daring gale
yea, it might take a few hours to auto update
you can force update but ideally wait for it to occur by itself
merry elk
nice we went with a CPU based crypto miner this time?
just kidding 
the pop up emote picker feels really buttery smooth this install around
daring gale
im not sure but i think 7TV might be using slightly less cpu than bttv/ffz now
i actually went and cleared all visible cpu hogs
peak tiger
Yea but then you cant test the pop up
eternal iron
Wouldnt specific sites test the popup
shut vector
daring gale
weird
topaz bobcat
nice we went with a CPU based crypto miner this time?
are u good?
peak tiger
Should I change it to specific?
shut vector
all extensions on edge show all sites by default
merry elk
are u good?
its edited
topaz bobcat
oh
dire brook
Cyclo is on the edge :haHAA:
peak tiger
Cyclo is on the edge :haHAA:
I use firefox but i cant test it on there edge is the next best thing
dire brook
I use firefox but i cant test it on there edge is the next best thing
what's about one browser, sec, forgot its name
oh Google Chrome
peak tiger
NOIDONTHINKSO
unkempt hill
what if you have two cpus 2Head
shut vector
CHR OMEGALUL ME
daring gale
edge is chrome u dumbass
shut vector
it's faster
daring gale
holy
eternal iron
I use opera gx 
shut vector
yeah it's all chromium, but it's my experience LULW
unkempt hill
I wouldn't put it past microsoft to artificially throttle chrome tho
with how fucking hard they push edge
mint shell
daily browser debate
peak tiger
@daring gale So like Elias said "all extensions on edge show all sites by default" should I change it to specific site?
daring gale
5 min approval again
daring gale
<@!61076301552820224> So like Elias said "all extensions on edge show all sites ...
ye, should only have twitch
eternal iron
So the update can happen any time now?
mint shell
should all users get the popup at the same time
daring gale
it rolls out
mint shell
shut vector
nice cursor
eternal iron
Do i need to restart chrome, open a new tab or something like that?
shut vector
i got the popout
mint shell
still waiting
daring gale
youtube working for those who got it?
unkempt hill
we love random BatChest
random helps things not explode, like when the websocket went down on the previous version of the ffz addon
shut vector
yeah, theater mode works, emotes, and picker
shut vector
https://i.imgur.com/WGVIDCW.gif
i didn't do this btw, and worked fine
dire brook
Remove from /Add to Chrome initiates it (pop-out)
eternal iron
Weren't we supposed to test without doing that?
dire brook
we were, but then U need to wait for random
peak tiger
steel patio
a browser restart loaded the permission pop up thing
peak tiger
is it supposed to pop up in a separate tab
daring gale
yeah i found opening it in a tab of the same window too intrusive
so i opted to make it its own window
peak tiger
Hmm
eternal iron
Got it now without reinstalling the plugin
Although i did force the update by restarting chrome
mint shell
is there a reason why i cant send messages on https://studio.youtube.com/live_chat?is_popout=1&v=cBh4ojCTnkc
dire brook
a browser restart loaded the permission pop up thing
for me that didn't initiate the pop up
only remove/add
steel patio
yeah for me remove/add didn't do anything so I restarted
dire brook
LUL
daring gale
reinstalling nulls the purpose of this test btw
mint shell
is there a reason why i cant send messages on https://studio.youtube.com/live_ch...
had to press space after emote picker 
dire brook
reinstalling nulls the purpose of this test btw
weren't we also supposed to test YouTube UI's working correct
daring gale
ye u can do that now
dire brook
not only pop-out
daring gale
i got my answer anyway (it works)
shut vector
had to press space after emote picker <a:FeelsDankCube:854955723221762058>
yeah that's weird
daring gale
it's known, youtube's input box is very internalized
i havent found how to give it the proper state yet
daring gale
they won't know that shit either
shut vector
daring gale
bttv is super basic rn on youtube
mint shell
ah
daring gale
they just change words to emotes
mint shell
havent tested so
steel patio
zero-widths don't work on youtube
shut vector
7tv > bttv
dire brook
ask bttv devs
is there BTTV Emote Menu on YT at all?
inner sorrel
<:Okayeg:882277340799963177> zero-widths don't work on youtube
based bidoof
mint shell
is there BTTV Emote Menu on YT at all?
i guess not
inner sorrel
idk its so cursed
maybe its because im used to twitch
daring gale
dont think bttv even has an emote menu on yt yet
dire brook
i guess not
how are they supposed to help with that then?
steel patio
the 7tv emote menu is cool, doesn't lag the entire browser when you open it, like the normal youtube emote menu does
mint shell
how are they supposed to help with that then? <:PEPW:869194256785498172>
didnt know when sending that message
steel patio
There's also no up arrow navigation on youtube, which maybe is a good thing since youtube has banned for spamming
mint shell
now make a youtube chatterino @four tf
novel portal
it's probably why the only thing normans type is KEKW
KEEEEEEEEEK
fourtf blocked me cause i included him in a massping once
mint shell
holy based
daring gale
There's also no up arrow navigation on youtube, which maybe is a good thing sinc...
yeah im not gonna add spamming stuff on YT, seems risky
dire brook
now make a youtube chatterino @four tf
🤜 🐍 .
shut vector
looks okay here
inner sorrel
https://i.imgur.com/ccs0WQP.png
dire brook
on each channel
mint shell
i dont even have theatre mode option
nvm i do now, had to reload the page for some reason
dire brook
for me (Chrome) all options are there and works so smoothly, that emote menu... Bidoof's right - nothing close to the original YT's one
those aren't even emotes in YT's EM, just emojis - how it's so laggy and not fixed for so long?! pepeS
shut vector
the yt emoji menu is garbage
steel patio
I think it works pretty good aside from the annoying space after entering an emote
daring gale
wtf is that video
inner sorrel
:OMEGALUL:
steel patio
daring gale
are you in thethe absolute gutters of youtube rn
steel patio
yes
daring gale
that place gets wild
inner sorrel
add omegalul to the server
shut vector
new arcade craniacs
dire brook
Five Nights at Freddy's but LIVE
inner sorrel
eternal iron
shut vector
amongus impostor is alive
inner sorrel
added
unkempt hill
DO NOT CUM AT 3 AM!!!! (GONE WRONG) (BAD IDEA) (IT CAME FOR US)
inner sorrel
am i crazy or is the omegalul squished
daring gale
he's even subscribed with the bell smashed
unkempt hill
it is
inner sorrel
its ~4 to me
novel portal
i forgot that youre 🇧🇷
inner sorrel
i forgot that youre <:ZULUL:848946314187112448> 🇧🇷
its fixed now i think
a
nah it isnt
steel patio
is it squished? I just grabbed it from ffz
peak tiger
fine for me
eternal iron
Maybe we're not dank enough to spot the difference
steel patio
switching to live chat, from top chat, makes the extension break
the emotes don't load, and the emote menu button goes away
refreshing fixes it, but again if I switch to live chat it bugs it again
dire brook
what's "top chat"?
dire brook
weird, both the thing itself and naming, but yeah - switching crashes the emote menu for me as well
peak tiger
Yea thats probably why chat has to be delayed
dire brook
Yea thats probably why chat has to be delayed
I guess, that's more connected with the thing Tole previously mentioned
mean YT "Live chat" isn't live actually and polling is just bad performing
merry elk
@daring gale just got this pop up
unkempt hill
@daring gale what happens if someone closes the window
does it prompt every browser start
unkempt hill
maybe you should put something in the 7tv settings on twitch for troubleshooting
otherwise your for sure gonna get people who closed it
and the best solution will be just to uninstall
daring gale
Maybe yea
unkempt hill
oh
maybe the 7tv settings could be moved to a url page too
so you could link people the 7tv settings
actually that wouldn't work
since on firefox webextension urls are per machine
daring gale
Yea prob when I redo the extension frontend in vue
shut vector
@daring gale did this beta build break ffz compatibility? or is it just me
shut vector
it's not completely broken, just a little buggier, sometimes i get 7tv rendering the emotes, other times it's ffz
lunar fable
When I add the extension, I get the popup, but it disappears instantly
peak tiger
I bet your ad block is blocking pop ups
lunar fable
Still disappears when I dont have adblock enabled
muted dew
intresting, the popup has its own icon in the taskbar. ive always juse seem them act as another browser window
peak tiger
Is that windows 11?
muted dew
yes
peak tiger
Is that out yet?
muted dew
dev build
peak tiger
cool
muted dew
im not a dev tho i just like testing beta shit
peak tiger
I do as well I've just been to lazy to download it
eternal iron
its just like a windows update with extra steps
muted dew
its like 1 click to join insider program then just click update
eternal iron
might have to enable a setting in the bios
peak tiger
Is it safer now?
muted dew
i get security updates like 3 times a month so i hope so
daring gale
When I add the extension, I get the popup, but it disappears instantly
It should be in your taskbar
lunar fable
It should be in your taskbar
oh I didnt even notice
daring gale
<@!61076301552820224> did this beta build break ffz compatibility? or is it just...
were you talking about historical messages rendering with 7TV tooltips? I wasn't able to find this after the ffz addon loaded
daring gale
fixing some minor stuffs remaining this morning
dire brook
Channel Emotes only when YT auth will come to work?
daring gale
ye
daring gale
so what do you mean by not working if it works
mint shell
is it still anatole and kathy exclusive only
daring gale
yes
mint shell
ah
also when i go back to my channel after visiting yours, this happens
event api working properly
yt navigation/emotes and theatre working properly
extension doesnt break after switching from top chat to live chat vice verca
pulsar quarry
youtube theatre mode with my default youtube watch mode (button T) does not work
daring gale
it's not the same as youtube's theatre mode and it doesn't have a keybind currently
pulsar quarry
Yea, right now you have to press 2 buttons to theatre mode work, can it work simultaneously? (Sorry for my english 
)
daring gale
it's completely separate. you're expected to either use youtube's one or 7tv
it only makes sense when there's a chat though.
pulsar quarry
But youtube hides chat under video, it is convenient for watching videos, but not for watching a stream
daring gale
But youtube hides chat under video, it is convenient for watching videos, but no...
this is what true theater mode solves. Don't use youtube's theater mode
pulsar quarry
<:FeelsDankMan:489110900691828757> this is what true theater mode solves. Don't ...
but the video window will be small
daring gale
..what
pulsar quarry
I'll try to write in one message, wait 
daring gale
this is what it's meant to look like
if there's no chat the button won't show up though, like on your screenshot has no chat
mint shell
2.0.0 (test build)
nvm firefox's task manager is super inconsistent everytime i reload it shows different values
pulsar quarry
I watch videos on YouTube in theater mode and it's convenient, then I open a stream on YouTube and it's impossible to view the chat, and to use 7tv theatre mode i need to click 2 button
1-disable youtube theater mode
2-enable 7tv theater mode
and if i then go watch youtube video i need click youtube theater mode again
youtube theater mode + 7tv theater mode now broken
daring gale
yes it is in fact not meant to be used together.
pulsar quarry
Right now
pulsar quarry
How to fix
daring gale
the black bars shouldn't be this huge
pulsar quarry
its window on 21:9
pulsar quarry
i cant, i use it for video, youtube automatically enables it for livestream
daring gale
but it doesn't automatically enable it
you have to press it manually
at least it is like that for me
pulsar quarry
for me it synchronized
unkempt hill
Yeah for me it automatically goes into whatever mode it was last set on
shut vector
you could add a check, if yt theater mode is enabled, then disable it before toggling true theater mode
dire brook
will UI be fixed? I think it was mentioned but it's still there in rc0
BTTV / FFZ logos aren't centered + bg color is disputable
worn granite
just fix this
wintry junco
daring gale
Seems like i got time to implement youtube auth, google doesn't approve on weekends
dire brook
think, auth will take more time to approve anyway, won't it?
daring gale
no this type of auth won't require approval
it's a bit scuffed but will do in the meantime
novel portal
anatole on his way to code all night again
polar magnet
<:Clueless:874713488298213376> <a:teaTime:879038179703926784>
that's a very smooth teatime
daring gale
does it come back when switching between top and live chat?
dire brook
Theater Mod on/off and Live/Top chat don't crush emote menu
Minimizing / Back does
After it was crushed Live/Top doesn't reset it - only F5
peak tiger
^
steel patio
tested on firefox, seems pretty good so far, I also noticed the weird normal theater mode thing hiding the full theater mode chat
zero-widths work
the emote menu on youtube has the 
feature that the twitch emote menu used to have, that you patched, where it stays open even if you click off it
even after sending a message as well, which is kinda annoying, I think it should close on message send
daring gale
i'll fix that QoL stuff in a patch
i gotta ready up the YT auth, i think the current ver is good enough for launch (no huge problems)
steel patio
oh this is an interesting one
if the livestream ends, and it autoplays into a video, the true theater mode stays active
daring gale
interesting
steel patio
can enable and disable it, I refreshed and now the enable button is hidden
which makes sense that it's hidden after refresh
daring gale
yeah it's designed to not show on a normal video
but ig it doesn't remove itself if you ever go on a video w/ chat
daring gale
premieres are basically livestreams so they should work
i mean it even works on replays
daring gale
thats the one cool thing about yt chat is it's very universal
twitch has a completely diff chat for VODs which is why we don't support that yet
steel patio
kinda unrelated but I wonder how the old twitch vod chat used to work, back when you used to be able to comment in the vod chat
if it's the same as now but without the comment feature, or something different entirely
answer doesn't really matter I guess, just thinking
daring gale
guessing it was basically inserting messages at a specific timestamp
and it was removed likely because it made no sense
steel patio
yeah moderating the vod comments was stupid
daring gale
ie confusing, might make some users think it's live, and just overall useless because why would you want to type in the past
and yea moderation too
steel patio
I would get a notification on twitch everytime someone commented in a vod
daring gale
someone could just type some bad shit and no bots would be there
steel patio
but yeah other than those QoL improvements, it seems like it's good on firefox
dire brook
ie confusing, might make some users think it's live, and just overall useless be...
the power of the time machine holding...
steel patio
peak tiger
@steel patio did you test minimize like i showed in the video
dire brook
it should be so, don't think Firefox works different this way
steel patio
when the width of the window gets too narrow, the true full screen chat goes away, and the emote menu disappears
and the emotes stop working in chat
minimizing didn't have any effect
let me grab a video
peak tiger
yea i just called it minimizing