stage-discussion

[daring gale]

they'll be reset next time

[worn granite]

im just waiting now

[unkempt hill]

you'll have to reset #15

[worn granite]

[unkempt hill]

its been milked

and I left all the subscriptions active

because I'm lazy

[worn granite]

[cobalt viper]

@unkempt hill check your sandbox balance

[unkempt hill]

wtf man

[topaz bobcat]

any plans to have regional pricing? @daring gale

[cobalt viper]

i kindly sent you 100$

[unkempt hill]

check your balance

now

bitch

take that

[daring gale]

at some point probably

[cobalt viper]

[polar magnet]

I'll probably never pay for the real thing. :(
I've never paid real money for anything twitch related

[daring gale]

it's a bit danker to implement afaik

[unkempt hill]

did it work?

[topaz bobcat]

twitch recently added it and steam already had it for a long time

[daring gale]

since theres no universal way to do regional pricing, you just have to consider every single god damn currency that exists

[topaz bobcat]

I think Epic has it too

[keen pagoda]

now wait one year to test the yearly plans

[cobalt viper]

[unkempt hill]

hackerCD I'm in

[topaz bobcat]

now u can get this

gift me pls

[cobalt viper]

check now

[river pond]

if your plans are to make 7tv sub price same as twitch sub price maybe you can just copy their regional prices

[unkempt hill]

inb4 anatole actually has to pay for all this

good luck anatole

[daring gale]

i can actually afford to make them slightly cheaper, because if you think about it twitch partners get maybe $1 out of a sub

theres no middleman beyond the payment processor here

so i get nearly full profit

[unkempt hill]

most partners with a "high end" contract make about 75%

[topaz bobcat]

Just PayPal fee I guess

[unkempt hill]

baseline is 50%

[river pond]

even cheaper

[daring gale]

theres like 41 cent paypal fee yea

[topaz bobcat]

chargebacks ... @daring gale gonna have a fun time

[daring gale]

its not that bad

[unkempt hill]

charging back that 1m euro now

[dire brook]

actualy, 4eur is just fine

[topaz bobcat]

wait anatole

I'm confused right now

[daring gale]

i made it 4 eur since idk how to do regional and it rounds up nicely across currencies

[topaz bobcat]

Why didn't you do Stripe? Paypal is known to disable peoples accounts just because they feel like it

[dire brook]

mb, some interesting number aroud

[topaz bobcat]

[dire brook]

like 3.33eur if u will make price lower

[topaz bobcat]

also paypal support doesnt really exist

[daring gale]

stripe is planned @topaz bobcat

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale did you disable the accounts?

why cant I log in

[daring gale]

no

[unkempt hill]

uh oh

banned

[topaz bobcat]

Should have went with stripe as default and only Stripe

I can only vouch for them

used to sell on ebay and had like 5k Euro in sold items

[merry elk]

whoops forgot to cancel mine, jsut did

[topaz bobcat]

and paypal fucking sucks

[daring gale]

I like stripe yea and their API is cool af, but i assumed paypal was the better option to start up with just because people might not like having to share credit card details

with some new third party thingy

[unkempt hill]

bitcoin miner

[daring gale]

but i have a stripe account fully set up, actually might look if it's easy to implement before launch

[worn granite]

mine still haven't loaded

[topaz bobcat]

You should have Stripe (Default), PayPal other option @daring gale

will be much better

[merry elk]

from what ive heard stripe is apparently really easy and fast to implement

[daring gale]

i think so yeah

ye it is

[topaz bobcat]

Stripe support is also really good

[daring gale]

their API is amazing

[topaz bobcat]

if you need anything

they got live chat

they help you

they are kind

[daring gale]

[topaz bobcat]

meanwhile you wait 5 years for paypal to respond

with bot reply

[daring gale]

iirc they have a bit higher fees

but not much higher

[unkempt hill]

void clearly works for stripe

[topaz bobcat]

just speaking from experience

[daring gale]

it's best to have more options anyway

[topaz bobcat]

github uses stripe and paypal as second option

[daring gale]

like, everyone has a paypal account realistically so it made more sense to start with it

[topaz bobcat]

@daring gale you could even do paysafecard

[daring gale]

stripe is just a processor for direct card payments

@worn granite what hasnt loaded btw?

[worn granite]

nevermind i just had to refresh

[merry elk]

i dont get why people are so hesitant to give out credit card numbers, they have higher security measurements than any other payment option

[daring gale]

i guess cuz technically any merchant that has your card details could ping it for any amount

and then you have t ocontact your bank to sort it

[topaz bobcat]

you don't get notification to verify transaction?

should be standard

[daring gale]

my bank has a service that generates virtual debit cards with limited balance tied to the account, it's pretty neat actually.

not all banks have that @topaz bobcat

[topaz bobcat]

most do and if they dont theres still SMS

[daring gale]

some just let it go through by default

[topaz bobcat]

depends on what you set in the banking app

or you change your limits

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale mind giving me one, just, you know, for, testing purposes? 💞

[merry elk]

true, they could do that especially now with those 'virtual card skimmers' but my card gets locked so easily i lock it every 6 months or so

[daring gale]

i think a lot of people disable that because of recurring payments @topaz bobcat

[merry elk]

god i hate nitro i have way too much useless emotes

[daring gale]

would get annoying to confirm each month

[topaz bobcat]

its almost impossible to card nowadays because the security is too strict

[dire brook]

but paypal is much much wider - maybe vise versa stripe as optional

[topaz bobcat]

Yes PayPal is bigger

but Stripe is still better

if Anatole doesn't want hell

[unkempt hill]

is that a threat?

anatole run

[merry elk]

in europe atleast credit cards arent as common as in the us, so having a paypal option is really good

[topaz bobcat]

its about how paypal treats its sellers

they almost always side with the buyer

[merry elk]

paypal with ebay especially is such a pain for the seller

[daring gale]

yea ik paypal sucks i do plan to immediately withdraw money from paypal to my business bank account

in case the account locks for any reason

im aware

[topaz bobcat]

Well happened to me with 200 Euro and had to wait 180 days to withdraw

then my ebay account got locked too because competition reported me for underpricing them

still made a bank

so I'm gucci

[dire brook]

maybe, but it is still much wider

desn't matter what is the reason

most ppl will use pypl

[topaz bobcat]

Yeah sure

[dire brook]

still the more options here will be - the better

[topaz bobcat]

anyways gl @daring gale

[river rock]

im using account 5

when i finished payment, the popup didn't close

and the subscribe button in the background is still loading

i did just get the subscriber role

one thing that would be helpful is if the main page is redirected somewhere to say something along the lines of "we're processing your transaction now"

because it did take a minute

also, maybe the button should be grayed out when you subscribe

or the button could be changed to upgrade to yearly or gift someone else the subscription month

also

oh my fucking god

https://tenor.com/view/boiled-soundcloud-boiled-boiled-irl-boiled-utsc-boiled-cheesestick-agem-soundcloud-gif-20049996

@daring gale kind of a sus bug if you ask me ^^^^^^^^^^^^

[unkempt hill]

what the fuck is the name of that gif

[daring gale]

wtf how did never notice that

ive been looking at that page for days

[merry elk]

jesus christ

[weak heron]

used account 3

[river rock]

maybe that could be changed to something like

"Thank you for subscribing!"

[topaz bobcat]

True

and add dankHug

[dire brook]

[inner sorrel]

bro im ultra pepege
can someone explain what do i have to do

[dire brook]

nothing atm

[inner sorrel]

[unkempt hill]

[dire brook]

later should be another test

[inner sorrel]

im a sub now

[unkempt hill]

I'm the only pepega allowed here

[dire brook]

u are not Pepega

u are pepegafy

[inner sorrel]

i am Pepege

not Pepega

[unkempt hill]

[inner sorrel]

[dire brook]

me is

[inner sorrel]

Pepego

interesting

i still dont get what went wrong with this emote

bro

its literally breaking the website

[dire brook]

just use

🅰️ 🅱️ 🅾️ 🅱️ 🅰️

[worn granite]

uhm, technically, what is the difference?

[dire brook]

[gleaming dagger]

i'm using sandbox account 3

[gleaming dagger]

i'm getting this error too, 👍

[daring gale]

it's not an error the UI isn't finished

[dire brook]

nice counter, Tole

[unkempt hill]

fix it

[gleaming dagger]

/fdm oh

[civic nimbus]

the notification, won't go away for me, ever after i refresh:

[solar kindle]

we still testing the new sub stage test? mine is stuck in an animation

[solar kindle]

did you try hard refresh in your browser?

I think it did the same for me until I did that

[civic nimbus]

ok, that worked

[solar kindle]

I don't think it's an issue with 7TV but a browser cache issue. Vaguely remember anatole mention something about it

[daring gale]

it's a server side cache actually

it can take a couple minutes for the notification counter to update

[unkempt hill]

well, fix it

fix everything

but also why not do that clientside?

[dire brook]

@daring gale next step of tests tomorrow?

[unkempt hill]

could you not just count the visible notifications that you receive from the server

maybe ask for the most recent 10

and then just label 9+

when its above 9

[dire brook]

and God damn, fix that "Heads Up" Acknowledge already

[daring gale]

i'll send another ping next time testing is needed

[solar kindle]

server side? letting us down. make it instant clean

[dire brook]

just asking to understand the time management of mine, anyway thx for pings

[long cairn]

[high pond]

On mobile it’s just loading (going to test on my pc to see if it’s the same )

[high pond]

turns out i dont have paypal account and im to young to even have a paypal account

[dire brook]

U don't need, use sandbox

Numbers have been done:
1 2 3 4 7 8 9 12 13 15 16 17 19 20 and prob 5

U can use any other

[polar magnet]

you keep leaving out 14

there's an extra space between 13 and 15 even

[dire brook]

u got it?

oh u meant double space

doesn't matter actually

[polar magnet]

No I did 14 as well

It's even in the list

albeit out of order for some reason

[inner sorrel]

im 3

[polar magnet]

You're too young for discord man

you gotta be at least 13 or something

[dire brook]

oh, k

will count

Numbers have been done:
1 2 3 4 7 8 9 10 12 13 14 15 16 17 19 20 (and prob 5)

Tole said he will reset 'em anyway before next step of tests. So actually doesn't matter much.

[river rock]

i did 5

[daring gale]

gold isabel

first page all subscribers

[unkempt hill]

that would be because you only allowed stage testers to upload emotes

so can nobody upload emotes on stage now, since roles were cleared?

[daring gale]

subscriber role can

btw thats going to live too only subscribers will be able to upload emotes now

[unkempt hill]

[daring gale]

no more plebs, 4 euros or no emotes

fully paywalled service

[unkempt hill]

payed emote slots

[daring gale]

emote slots without paying reduced to 1

then 1 dollar per emote

also the project is going closed source and we will updating the privacy policy very soon

[novel portal]

weekly

[unkempt hill]

time to fork it before that happens

[daring gale]

there may be a sudden spike in your GPU's usage percentage please do not worry about it's normal

[unkempt hill]

[daring gale]

ok enough shitposting time to work

[unkempt hill]

the last time I shitposted I got timedout

and it was someone else's shitpost who triggered it

[high pond]

Wait so can only sub upload emotes ?

[daring gale]

i"m joking

[high pond]

[daring gale]

Stripe's API is so good compared to paypal

i might actually implement it fully tonight

[inner sorrel]

:PepegaCredit: take all my money mr. 7tv

[polar magnet]

all my homies hate paypal

I haven't even heard of stripe before

I guess that goes to show how much money I spend online

[daring gale]

that's probably because stripe isn't quite like paypal, most of the time services will just show you "Pay with Credit Card" and stripe is in the backend

[river rock]

paypal actually sucks

i deleted my paypal a little while ago

who cares for it

[topaz bobcat]

exactly

[polar magnet]

I see

[daring gale]

paypal is more of a platform than a processor

but im glad to implement both i guess. some people can't always pay by credit card directly

[polar magnet]

Are there any alternatives to PayPal for a digital wallet of cash?

Like actual cash, and not the store-of-value/investment-opportunity that cryptocurrency is. ;)

[unkempt hill]

a bank

[polar magnet]

I want online cash though

[unkempt hill]

An online bank

[polar magnet]

lol

[solar kindle]

gift cards are another way some places use. If you wanna be more anonymous

[polar magnet]

meh

[unkempt hill]

bro thats sketch af tho

-10 reputation

[solar kindle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/817075418640678964/868319222680391780/BruhSad.gif

[polar magnet]

Sir you have to purchase a $200 google play card for your computer's fixation

[inner sorrel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/817075418640678964/868319222680391780/BruhSad.gif

[pastel smelt]

[solar kindle]

Just go on & send the long funny numbers on the card to your friendly neighbourhood tech support Anatole

[polar magnet]

Ah, a kitboga sub

You know that "Just Wait a Moment" song he plays?

It's pretty good, isn't it. ;)

[pastel smelt]

I haven't subbed to him in a while I just have gifted nitro and I'm in his server

[pastel smelt]

[polar magnet]

Whoever made that song must be a really good producer https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/757164633583910973.gif?v=1

[pastel smelt]

yeah

[inner sorrel]

me no saber

[polar magnet]

el no sabe?

[inner sorrel]

im el

[daring gale]

[pastel smelt]

I don't think that's a good idea on your part the payment processor will take most of it

[daring gale]

yea, im more surprised thats an option

[unkempt hill]

🤔 what about hourly?

🤔 an hourly subscription fee

[pastel smelt]

at that point you might as well make it free

[daring gale]

i think you would create a debt to the payment processor there

[pastel smelt]

[unkempt hill]

7tv subscriptions, now charged by the minute

[daring gale]

$1 per minute for a month = $43800

[unkempt hill]

wait thats how many minutes there are in a month?

that feels low, math

[daring gale]

according to google

[pastel smelt]

7tv, now in debt

[devout veldt]

the subscription tab isnt there for me but https://stage.7tv.app/subscribe

nvm button doesnt do anytig

[desert canopy]

[rotund haven]

i used account 6

[thorny plover]

hi

[daring gale]

God Stripe is so chad

i'm definitely making it the default method

[pastel smelt]

[sand iron]

i used 18, no issues at all <3

[topaz bobcat]

told u

[daring gale]

ye i mean i knew that, i have prior experience with stripe

idk for some reason i figured itd be better to start with paypal but

not really now that i got into implementing it

[topaz bobcat]

[daring gale]

either way it's not a big added workload because i took care of universalizing my code

knowing id add stripe at some point

[dire brook]

at least keep PayPal as an option

[topaz bobcat]

pretty sure he will

[solar kindle]

PP is still gonna be there.

[polar magnet]

They aren't paying you enough

[daring gale]

Was gonna do a test this evening but yea

maybe in the morning we'll see we'll see

[merry elk]

no subscriptions tab

[weak heron]

Shows for me, could be cause i “have” a subscription

[merry elk]

[weak heron]

just checked today.... it's gone

[merry elk]

yeah

[merry elk]

i read it

[polar magnet]

same

but like several hours ago

[daring gale]

Backend looks good, now we do a little bit of frontend

[polar magnet]

we do a little frontend

now do my backend

[weak heron]

[dire brook]

who is responsible for the frontend and the backend among Tole and Troy? or they just switch it time to time?

[daring gale]

i do both, troy helps with backend from time to time

[merry elk]

🤏 just a lil bit of css here

[daring gale]

and i.e saving a week's worth of data from total destruction

[viscid finch]

[dire brook]

thank you for your answer - now we know

[viscid finch]

imagine waking up to discord pings saying that mongo is down

[daring gale]

the funniest part is i had just implemented those alerts the day before

wasn't expecting them to go off

[dire brook]

hugh what?

[daring gale]

that

i meant to add that "just in case", but right the day after it goes off

[viscid finch]

all happened at once too

[dire brook]

so is it MongoDB where the storage is?

[daring gale]

it's the database we use yes, if it goes down there is no emote, no users, etc.

[merry elk]

'this feature will one day save our ass but it will probably never get to it'

[viscid finch]

anatole gonna create 7tvdb

we are the database

[viscid finch]

Downloading

😎

[inner sorrel]

i have to remove the ffz add-on wait a bit

@daring gale could you say something on vadikus chat to see if the badges work

works

[daring gale]

tooltip as well?

[inner sorrel]

whats that

[daring gale]

the tihng that appears when you hover over the badge

[inner sorrel]

spacing is also fixed now from what i've seen

yes

[daring gale]

you have ffz enabled

youre not actually testing here

[inner sorrel]

i disabled it tho

[daring gale]

refreshedthe page?

[inner sorrel]

yes

ok this time i removed the extension

can you send another mensage

works

[daring gale]

nice

[inner sorrel]

spacing also right here

should zero-width bttv emotes override 7tv emotes?

[daring gale]

they would but the server side changes flagging bttv zerowidths hasnt gone live yet

actually

i'll push it live now

one min

[inner sorrel]

okie

search bar works from what i've been trying

[dire brook]

so I should disable FFZ and set up 7tv as extension? not like add-on?

[toxic tangle]

for this, yes

[daring gale]

yes this is testing 7tv standalone/native, without FFZ

[inner sorrel]

the tool thing glitches sometimes when you hover over an emote then search for another emote

[toxic tangle]

yeah it doesnt update till you hover over another

[daring gale]

BTTV cvMask / cvHazmat should be zero-width now

[inner sorrel]

hmm

let me refresh again

[daring gale]

Anyone has an emote on 7tv that i can make zero width as well

[toxic tangle]

https://7tv.app/emotes/60a5a04ec2ca47c7d5d5cb6a
you can use this for a little bit of testing 🤏

[daring gale]

ideally an emote that makes sense

[inner sorrel]

how would it work

[toxic tangle]

it should just overwrite the one prior

but idk if anyones uploaded one that would work yet

[inner sorrel]

made in like 5 seconds if its just for testing

its like an OMEGALUL mask

from OMEGALULiguess

like this you know

[daring gale]

send 7tv link

[inner sorrel]

https://7tv.app/emotes/610944ad2d0fdc3364062b2d

[toxic tangle]

cv- emotes still arent working atleast for me

[stiff sinew]

the removed vertical spacing looks great

[dire brook]

if u have 7tv emote menu opened and then expand ur browser window the menu will stand in the middle of the window, instead going to bottom right, buddy

[daring gale]

what order are you typing them in? i think it's the cv emote first

[toxic tangle]

the 0 widths are working with themselves but not with others

maybe it is

👍

[dire brook]

🤜 🔔 @daring gale

[daring gale]

this emote is zero width https://7tv.app/emotes/610944ad2d0fdc3364062b2d

you'll need special perms to use it

lemme know your username ill give you the role

[inner sorrel]

Enzo_SuperCraftZ

[toxic tangle]

Gregoronsen

[dire brook]

eternal_pestilence

[stiff sinew]

nothimipromise

[inner sorrel]

ok how do i do it

[daring gale]

can someone let me know - is the order for zerowidth combos not on par with bttv/ffz here?

[inner sorrel]

wait does 7tv have bttv and ffz integrated in it?

[toxic tangle]

yeah on ffz the 0 width is after

[daring gale]

7tv proxies ffz and bttv thru its API

so that it's all the same data structure

[inner sorrel]

hmm

[stiff sinew]

put it before enzo

[dire brook]

it does matter

[stiff sinew]

yeah

[daring gale]

ok it's not on par, i'll fix that. order is inverted

[inner sorrel]

yeah if you but it before it works

[toxic tangle]

sadge lost his eye

[inner sorrel]

PagManSitEatingOMEGALUL

[stiff sinew]

works w/ animated motes too

[inner sorrel]

yea

[daring gale]

god i can already see the creative degeneracy that will come out of this

[dire brook]

[stiff sinew]

someones gonna think of some crazy shit

[inner sorrel]

i actually liked the mask idea alot

the problem is the sizing

[stiff sinew]

exciting to see innovation before it happens

[dire brook]

we need those one-loop emojis to make insane combos

[inner sorrel]

https://7tv.app/emotes/61094697baac0df693e37cbb also i made a better looking version if it matters

[stiff sinew]

the one we got works fine lol

[daring gale]

switched it

[stiff sinew]

that works too

[inner sorrel]

does merging update live?

[dire brook]

yep

[stiff sinew]

is an animated 0 width possible?

[inner sorrel]

apparently not but its fine i guess

[inner sorrel]

imagine a rainbow effect but a bit transparent

so that any emote could be rainbow

[dire brook]

btw how I set up "0-width"

[daring gale]

animated 0width is possible yes

you cant, i have to set the flag manually atm

[stiff sinew]

ic ic

very interesting

[dire brook]

got it, will be the option later, right?

[stiff sinew]

new versions of teatime/winetime etc. are possible then?

[dire brook]

like sub-option

[daring gale]

ye, anyone will be able to create zero width emotes (but it'll be a subscriber feature to enable them)

[stiff sinew]

nice

[dire brook]

anyone who paid 4/month

[inner sorrel]

fair i guess

you guys have to make money somehow

[stiff sinew]

i wonder what a 0 width and renovated would look like

[dire brook]

actually, that should be paid off

[dire brook]

GIF

[broken trellis]

[daring gale]

i cant wait to build a working webp decoder so we can have proper webp emotes

[broken trellis]

[inner sorrel]

omegalulTechno

[daring gale]

@broken trellis you have the extension enabled twice, disable the live

[inner sorrel]

holy fuck thats dank

[dire brook]

discord devs 🤜

[broken trellis]

i click the right side

the emote menu comes up

[inner sorrel]

[daring gale]

yeah you have the extension enabled 2x

on completely different versions

obviously thats not gonna work

[dire brook]

btw what should we do later? delete this unpack test version?

and just reinstall original one from store?

when 1.6.0 will be released

[daring gale]

you can just re enable the store version when youre done and delete the test

[dire brook]

Okayge

[daring gale]

or yea you can keep the test build until 1.6 goes live, if you feel like it works well enough

there'll be a few more test builds before the live release

[dire brook]

it works pretty fine, but I have twitch fully customized with ffz sets

[stiff sinew]

i see no obv issues so ill keep it

[daring gale]

also if you have more zero width emotes youd like to test just link me and ill flag them

[inner sorrel]

holy fuck 14kb

[broken trellis]

[dire brook]

btw I didn't check 2 0-width in the same input

[broken trellis]

ok

i just reinstalled it

then got an error thats 90 pages long

[dire brook]

lmao, by notification bell was stucked on 36 (I described it previously in #bugs-and-stuff) and now all new notification just increase this counter

[solar kindle]

? https://7tv.app/emotes/61094bf4d63fb6772a0d446c

[stiff sinew]

ohh i was just thinkin about that emote

good idea

[dire brook]

one day I will have "694201337" notifications

[broken trellis]

i need more slots

[inner sorrel]

he said notifications

[daring gale]

@solar kindle done but mods cant use zero width atm sec ill give the perm

[solar kindle]

just a lowly mod

[inner sorrel]

badge

[dire brook]

NOIDONTTHINKSO

[broken trellis]

[inner sorrel]

wdym you fuck i got it

did you make it zero-width yet anatole

[daring gale]

i did but then atmos made it not

so i made it again

[dire brook]

2 works simultaneously

[inner sorrel]

it works but its not centralized

[inner sorrel]

waytoodank

[dire brook]

[stiff sinew]

emote too wide

[inner sorrel]

if it was in the middle it would be so good

[dire brook]

Tole, now it should be limited how many 0-width emotes could be stacked

or smth bad may happen

[inner sorrel]

waay too dank

[toxic tangle]

[dire brook]

[solar kindle]

I made it not

[inner sorrel]

holy fuck

[dire brook]

create an original 7tv emote with this

[solar kindle]

yeah I was thinking bout wide zero width emotes that you would wanna use as a modifier

[inner sorrel]

cvHazmatOMEGALULmaskSPEEDOkayge

[toxic tangle]

SadgeLostHisEyeWhilstInAPandemicGoingFast

[solar kindle]

could the non modifier emote be centred into the modifier-emote

[daring gale]

i'll check against how FFZ renders zerowidth to make it on par

[dire brook]

should be like this

[inner sorrel]

THIS

wait i dont have THIS

[stiff sinew]

nice

[inner sorrel]

bro that giant watermark

[stiff sinew]

created with gifrecorder.com

[inner sorrel]

[toxic tangle]

created with gifrecorder.com

[stiff sinew]

works pretty well tho

[inner sorrel]

my chatterino looks like a fucking chaos

[daring gale]

there'll be a nightly chatterino7 supporting zero width emotes tomorrow probably

[inner sorrel]

doc is protecting amogus guy

[stiff sinew]

ill counter ratio myself for that one

[inner sorrel]

if you could make 'invert the order'' an option it would be amazing

but idk how it works

👍

[stiff sinew]

idk that might seem kinda redundant

[inner sorrel]

idk i kinda liked typing it before

[stiff sinew]

if ffz already does it opposite it doenst make too much sense to do it both ways

[inner sorrel]

yea

that would be an exclusive option for 7tv

ok i give up on making a half invisible webp

im too dumb for that

[toxic tangle]

https://7tv.app/emotes/610950fac722085b766d8b39
online converters/compressors

[inner sorrel]

idk how to access API shit but if someone knows

[inner sorrel]

private emote

[toxic tangle]

done

[broken trellis]

SadgeLostHisEyeWhilstGoingFastIn

[toxic tangle]

it cut the name

[inner sorrel]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK

[toxic tangle]

new name just fits

[broken trellis]

BlindSadgeGoingFastInPandemic

[dire brook]

U actually did it, I was joking

[solar kindle]

Put in a square one if anyone would ever want it (shouldn't if centered modifiers can happen) https://7tv.app/emotes/610951f6c5ccdd7baf4f50b3
Full width one https://7tv.app/emotes/61095224c5ccdd7baf4f50b8

This new one may be better than the 1st one I posted:
https://7tv.app/emotes/61095240c5ccdd7baf4f50bc

[inner sorrel]

hmm

im gonna set an alias to ''SPEED2''

[solar kindle]

aliases a god send

[dire brook]

can't open full width

[solar kindle]

oh its privated. think anatole needs to make it a 0 width emote first anyway

[inner sorrel]

aliases dont update automatically i guess

[dire brook]

oke, anyway I hope it will be possible to make 0-width (or non-0-width) centered with subsequent (previous) emotes

[inner sorrel]

oh yea you still have to set the other SPEED to be zero-width

[daring gale]

set this one zw https://7tv.app/emotes/61095240c5ccdd7baf4f50bc

[dire brook]

so we can just freely use full width

[inner sorrel]

wait a bit

is this already set up to be zero-width https://7tv.app/emotes/610951f6c5ccdd7baf4f50b3

[solar kindle]

think he just set the one he linked

[inner sorrel]

oh

ok

bro i cant even see the emote

[solar kindle]

[broken trellis]

[inner sorrel]

https://7tv.app/emotes/61095749831545f526967ed8

hmm could this be a good zero-width emote?

[daring gale]

don

[inner sorrel]

i think it should be less tall

https://7tv.app/emotes/610951f6c5ccdd7baf4f50b3 make this zero-width

oh yea theres this

didnt crash for now

[solar kindle]

I like the wicked glasses idea

[daring gale]

it's emotes that contains these character

in the name of the emote

[inner sorrel]

oh

[solar kindle]

[inner sorrel]

[solar kindle]

enzo

[inner sorrel]

bro i've never even seen an emote with a special character in the name

[daring gale]

youve been able to put parentheses in emote names forever

but it crashes the live extension

[inner sorrel]

probably thats why

[daring gale]

shoudl be fixed in 1.6

[dire brook]

make glasses public/uploaded

almost

[stiff sinew]

hmmm

[inner sorrel]

WICKEDglasses OkayDankge

too big for him Sadge

dank

peepotalk omegalulmask

bro this combination is gold

its like OMEGALULiguess but with peepo

zero-width has such a big opportunity

wait did zero-width emotes overlap words

chatterino

im talking to myself rn

doc is extra WICKED

almost

ok i guess

wicked

ok i guess thats enough

cool feature anal toe

[daring gale]

[inner sorrel]

@ zneix chatterino fork when

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850283275976572940/871475381272715335/bigpeepoTalk.gif

[elder lichen]

"insufficient privilege"

[dire brook]

[elder lichen]

📣 @daring gale "ERROR: Insufficient Privilege"

[daring gale]

@elder lichen ye u need a special role to enable these

Sec

[viscid finch]

Works well for me

[inner sorrel]

👍

[merry elk]

used it for a bit now and had no crashes, but could only try the bttv 0 width emotes. emote popup doesnt close for me when i send a message, not sure if that's intended or not

[inner sorrel]

yeah it also happened to me and some other people

[dire brook]

same, for me personally it's better to auto-close a menu with the option to leave menu visible (if it's needed for emote combos)

[merry elk]

wait somethings fucky, left is browser with 7tv addon, right is chatterino7 https://lyx0.s-ul.eu/MOAaFBTT.png

i have no idea which the intended way actually is now that i think of it, but if they look right on browser theyre wrong on chatterino

left ffz browser, middle chatterino7, right 7tv browser addon https://lyx0.s-ul.eu/wJ8yhDk4.png

[inner sorrel]

wait do you have ffz and 7tv enabled?

[merry elk]

no 7tv on the right is chrome, left with ffz is firefox

[inner sorrel]

oh ok

type cvHazmat YEAHBUT7TV

[merry elk]

https://lyx0.s-ul.eu/flMG1OHr.png

[inner sorrel]

its working then

its only out on the 7tv test build

[merry elk]

oh yeah i only have the test build right now

oh now that i wanted to disable it i also have an error on the extension page about the websocket
screenshot: https://lyx0.s-ul.eu/cNe5r6ZH.png
paste of the line: https://haste.noury.ee/nevobulixi.php

[ember geyser]

Hi, I found a bug with version 1.6.0, the sub emotes do not show which channel they are from, neither do the global twitch emotes

[viscid finch]

odd

[summer raptor]

Please add the ability to somehow disable the pop-up window with the description of the emotion. It's too big for me

[broken trellis]

^ i agree with this and prefer the way its like on chatterino or they way ffz do it

[inner sorrel]

i like this ver

its just too slow, glitchy and overwhelming sometimes

[cerulean temple]

hey any one know how to add 7tv to chatterino

[river rock]

on the homepage there is a 7tv chatterino fork download

[cerulean temple]

okay thanks

[dire brook]

last message in #news

[cerulean temple]

[viscid finch]

Donk

Probably

[daring gale]

ye follow the guide in the download link

disable any other twitch extension

[dire brook]

just saw it's mentioned

[inner sorrel]

new test

[daring gale]

FYI to access the settings you have to go into the 7TV icon (emote menu) bottom right, then click the settings button at the top

several settings don't work yet

[merry elk]

i can't get the blur/transparancy to work on kde with chromium, doesn't do anything

[dire brook]

UI Transparency

[daring gale]

i broke the transparency setting earlier

[merry elk]

okay nevermind i said it wrong, i cant get it to turn off, it works but cant turn it off

[dire brook]

didn't get which "tooltips" become smaller with an option

[daring gale]

the only two options that work atm is "hide unlisted emotes" and "show timeouts and bans"

the rest are currently cosmetic

[dire brook]

ah, ok

but the other ones will return later?

[daring gale]

all of them will work for the final release

[merry elk]

timeouts work perfectly

[daring gale]

let me know how's the autocompletion

[broken trellis]

[solar kindle]

works

[daring gale]

how do you like it vs. other implementations (ie ffz, bttv)

[merry elk]

works like chatterino, i like it a lot

[dire brook]

for me it sometimes repeats the previous auto-completion

[broken trellis]

it would be cool to move it so its not just in the middle

but still good

[dire brook]

I mean [auto-complete -> deleted -> started to type new emote -> tab -> it completed previous auto-completion]

[merry elk]

all bttv global emote tooltips show user as deleted user in the emote picker thingy

[broken trellis]

the UI Transparency isnt working for me

[daring gale]

. @broken trellis

[broken trellis]

oh

[solar kindle]

this same thing happens. but only when selecting all text and writing over it.

but if you backspace/delete thats not present

[dire brook]

tested it with AndKnuckles (bttv glob) + catYep (channel 7tv)

yep, Space after auto-completion helps

also, Space after previous auto-completion and before deleting it helps as well

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale for canceling tab complete, could you not store the current known word, and listen for change events on the input box, then check if the word at the current cursor starts with the stored word

that way it would work for any method of changing text

[daring gale]

maybe, i probably won't do any more autocomplete fixes for 1.6.0 though

thats more 1.6.x stuff

as long as it works without massive breaking issues

[dire brook]

actually, now it works pretty pretty fine

just Space after the emote done

[daring gale]

space should reset the cursor as well

[dire brook]

oh, sry I meant space

in both cases, after auto-completion (before deleting or just before starting another) and before new auto-completion (after deleting the previous one) Space helps

[daring gale]

@unkempt hill do you want to submit a PR fixing it

also another thing ladies - does the channel emote events work

try adding or removing some emotes in your channel

[merry elk]

[7TV] AnatoleAM removed the emote "BOOBA"

[unkempt hill]

I can take a look no promises though, I'm a bit donk atm

[daring gale]

[dire brook]

yep, life update works

+service messages

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale if ws is gone do you even need the wsUrl in config anymore?

[daring gale]

no

ws is gonna be decomissioned once both extension 1.6 and a new FFZ addon version is live

[unkempt hill]

I wanted to wait until emote sets were done before submitting another FFZ version

@daring gale 🤔 also I think we should provide another option instead of bluring unlisted emotes

since lower end devices might not be able to handle that many blurred images

exp. animated ones

it depends on the browser too

some are better at that than others

[daring gale]

perhaps

i'm not doing the personal emotes in 1.6, since that'll require significant backend work and i want 1.6 to go out by tomorrow

[solar kindle]

instead of blurring unlisted emotes, replace em all with this

or basically any placeholder emote ig

[unkempt hill]

🤔 a red faded 7tv logo with a semi transparent X behind it

and when you hover over it, the tooltip says "Emote Hidden"

[solar kindle]

in 🥵 style

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale thoughts?

[daring gale]

maybe, for a 1.6.x release

ideally we'd have a dropdown select to choose what unlisted emotes should look like

also @unkempt hill firefox version works fine?

i havent tested it at all

my philosophy is it either works or firefox sucks sweaty balls

[unkempt hill]

so, about that thing you did with the blurred background

I know thats not gonna work

but thats not a big deal

[worn granite]

i do enjoy this alot! https://i.nuuls.com/EgqeU.gif

[unkempt hill]

webkit added that one

then chrome followed

nonstandard

[daring gale]

does it need the -moz thing

[unkempt hill]

I'm not sure there is one

[daring gale]

it said 90% supported on caniuse

[unkempt hill]

• don't you use a library that handles that for you?

maybe they added support

it might have become standardized

[daring gale]

https://caniuse.com/css-backdrop-filter

[unkempt hill]

I know it wasn't like 2 years ago

whatchu mean can be enabled

[daring gale]

oh right firefox does fucking suck

holy fuck firefox really truly sucks

[unkempt hill]

just following standards

[daring gale]

oh right i need to switch to manifest v3

does firefox support it

it doesn't

i have to maintain 2 different manifest versions

[unkempt hill]

why would firefox support chrome's own manifest?

chrome isn't using the webextension standard

its its own thing

granted, it came first, and webextension was based off of it

its very similar but not the same

webextension is browser.

chrome is chrome.

[daring gale]

because firefox is a very small browser that should support things that the browser with >90% of global users have

[unkempt hill]

tell them to make it standardized

• manifest version 3 is shit

they removed so much

and so much is impossible now with extensions

removing features

[daring gale]

probably doesn't affect the 7tv extension

@unkempt hill the menu doesn't even load on firefox

holy shit this browser sucks

[unkempt hill]

just make better code

GigaChad firefox only accepts code made by sigma males

[daring gale]

[unkempt hill]

GigaChad everything else doesn't matter

[daring gale]

firefox is good and relevant in 2021

their decisions to veer off the norm is stunning and brave

[unkempt hill]

what norm

they're the only ones who follow the standards that have been in place for 20 years

[daring gale]

the standards they write themselves?

[unkempt hill]

chrome is veering off the norm by implementing non standards based features

no the w3c the people who made the "web"

[daring gale]

[unkempt hill]

the people who define what is the web, and always have

[daring gale]

anyways

i actually have to fix this because for some reason almost 10K users actually installed the extension on firefox

[unkempt hill]

maybe its not as irrelevant as you think it is

only 1/4 the chrome users

[daring gale]

i mean it is
it literally has 10% the users of chrome

[solar kindle]

fuk. i was testing it on chrome coz im logged into my mod twitch account there. FF is my main and just realised its not loading

[unkempt hill]

yeah anatole fix it

and give me that pink role already

[daring gale]

@solar kindle whats not loading, the whole extension or the settings

[solar kindle]

just the settings popout, yeah

same issue u stated above

[daring gale]

stuck in "loading menu" right?

[solar kindle]

yep. exactly that

[daring gale]

alright my guess is

firefox doesn't support chrome.storage.sync

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale also here shouldn't we use ev.target and not find a new input element?

it doesn't I don't think

because yet again, that is a chrome feature

and not standards compliant

[daring gale]

i guess i could just use local instead

idk who uses chrome sync

i just put it there because i assumed it's the same but with support for that

[unkempt hill]

there is a webext version I think, but you don't wanna mix using the api's

[daring gale]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/storage/sync

uhm apparently they do have it

[unkempt hill]

I think the webext api is much better as well

it uses promises

instead of callbacks

[daring gale]

but then it won't work with chrome

[unkempt hill]

theres a polyfill

[daring gale]

firefox handles the chrome namespace

[unkempt hill]

read my previous ping @daring gale

#stage-discussion message

[daring gale]

maybe

yeah it works with local

i'll just use that instead for now, if people request chrome sync support i can add it later

but i actually dont know anyone who finds that useful

it's just saving a bunch of local data to the internet

why

[unkempt hill]

I much prefer FFZ's approach of letting you download the settings

[daring gale]

yeah thats fine i could add that instead

[unkempt hill]

I mean if theres only like 7 options, and they're all checkboxes it doesn't really matter anyways

it'd be faster just to click the settings you want on a new install

[daring gale]

for now there's really no need for it

once we have multiple tabs and options begin to overflow the menu then sure

[unkempt hill]

stealing all of FFZ's features after they've been so nice to us

ruthless

[daring gale]

wdym all these features are original

[unkempt hill]

oh god, now he's delusional

anatole is gonna ban me one day

[solar kindle]

he's too pussy to do it doesnt have the cajonas

[unkempt hill]

you'll unban me if he does right? .... right?

guys?

[solar kindle]

dude. I just press a button if an emote doesnt have tits on it or some shit

we dont even have rights.

[unkempt hill]

yeah the delete button

throw that right in the trash

[solar kindle]

the save one first

[unkempt hill]

oh booba, nice

69tv is nsfw emotes only

[solar kindle]

I cant wait to completely ditch ffz if/when 7tv gets more options

[unkempt hill]

never

[solar kindle]

7tv is foss right? how easily can u get it setup for us

[unkempt hill]

one fork coming right up

actually, even easier they use github actions to compile the server builds

just use the precompiled ones

[daring gale]

1.6.0 will be a good candidate for the extension being good standalone, as it'll now support the most basic features people expect

namely autocomplete and history navigation

[unkempt hill]

history navigation?

[daring gale]

up/down arrows

[unkempt hill]

oh

wait thats a ffz feature?

I thought that was native

[daring gale]

bttv and ffz add it, native twitch doesn't have it

[unkempt hill]

twitch devs probably use chatterino and ffz anyways

they probably think its native too

[daring gale]

probably

[dire brook]

who doesn't use ffz, using twitch?!

[daring gale]

@solar kindle @unkempt hill test in firefox

[unkempt hill]

no thanks, sus link

[daring gale]

https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/suites/3450172238/artifacts/81889754

[solar kindle]

its not gonna start torrenting the weird hentai again will it?

[unkempt hill]

anatole trying to take out us firefox users

[daring gale]

its from the PR build artifact

[unkempt hill]

yeah anatole thats kind of cringe, expecially because you have someone who offered to be your dungeon mistress

[daring gale]

i already have @main condor to whip me

[unkempt hill]

exactly

so stop downloading porn

[dire brook]

bring Ur GPUs for Tole's purposes

[daring gale]

imagine thinking i have the bandwidth to download porn

[unkempt hill]

you don't which is why you have it in the web extension

you're mining porn

[daring gale]

[unkempt hill]

AnalCoin

[merry elk]

titcoin minor

[daring gale]

ok stfu and test my bitcoin miner

[unkempt hill]

no

I write fix, then test, me no test you test

[solar kindle]

perfect. opens smoothly

[inner sorrel]

no i dont think so

[daring gale]

[dire brook]

CumCoin

[inner sorrel]

peepoCoin miner

[unkempt hill]

AnalToeCoin

[solar kindle]

get a 7tv currency going and start hosting events with coins as reward, coins for entry into raffles and can win emote NFTs

[unkempt hill]

I've suggested emote NFTs

[daring gale]

someone actually emailed asking for something like this it was weird af

but like unironic

[unkempt hill]

yeah it was me

add it

now

and give me that role

[solar kindle]

I actually think its a sorta nice unique thing that could take off if done properly. people love their emotes especially if its restricted

also, twitch devs mostly use chatterino apparently

[unkempt hill]

anatole

that could be another type of entitlement

an entitlement to enable a certain emote

limited pay per channel emotes

[daring gale]

people would just reupload

[unkempt hill]

time to make an update to the chatterino login site that steals the token

[dire brook]

don't forget to remove Autism role

[unkempt hill]

if it doesn't already

[daring gale]

why

[unkempt hill]

yeah give me that role

but make it pink