stage-discussion

[inner sorrel]

what is this channel about

[peak tiger]

#general message

[turbid ivy]

https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5f1387fd65fe924464ee0338/3x.gif

basically public testing

[inner sorrel]

i cant upload emotes tho

btw i know anatole has to give permission

[turbid ivy]

because you shouldn't be able to

[inner sorrel]

.

compression looks much better btw

this is the original one

[inner sorrel]

1 channel

[topaz bobcat]

try uploading this

[turbid ivy]

upload THIS

[livid fern]

That looks better

This is one emote that suffered a bit from compression

https://7tv.app/emotes/60a3e8a689b7aa16a5838a2e

Why did discord do this

[daring gale]

A new stage version is deploying which should fix panics and further reduce file size (quality will remain as good)

[livid fern]

Looks insanely better honestly

With that comparison

[daring gale]

it's pretty night and day for sure

[livid fern]

Making an Imgur from ones that I need to replace

[daring gale]

this overhaul has taken me the whole day so i hope it's worth it

@turbid ivy @cobalt viper stage access granted. if anyone else wishes to test the new compression let me know and i'll give you access

[turbid ivy]

❤️

[daring gale]

@inner sorrel access granted as well, @elder lichen @proven hatch try again with previously failing uploads

[inner sorrel]

pag

pepegapls still looks a bit mashed

finally

animated pepe emotes are still kinda bad when small

the still ones are fine tho

[daring gale]

i was able to upload it https://stage.7tv.app/emotes/60d3a3a07b9ce679dd7816cd

THIS

ok i mean dude

yeah okay that probably is a bit too much

ill add a pixel size limit

yeah it would

i mean, good catch

other than that we coo on uploads, everything working?

[turbid ivy]

that's what I wanted to upload

[daring gale]

i think that image just causes a OOM

[turbid ivy]

on chatterino yes

on server as well?

[daring gale]

most likely

[turbid ivy]

I'm trying to upload it rn

got isTrusted:true

[inner sorrel]

looks decent i guess

[turbid ivy]

after like 30 seconds

[daring gale]

that means u took down the server pod yeah

it gone out of memory

[turbid ivy]

[daring gale]

just need a limit on pixel size

to avoid that

there's only one pod on staging so if it goes down theres no service at all for a few secs

@worn granite

[worn granite]

Okay

but yeah, https://i.nuuls.com/EbgYi.png

[daring gale]

try again

@river pond you should have access as well

[worn granite]

i have refreshed multiple times

[daring gale]

refresh one last time for salvation

[worn granite]

oh, i signed in and out and it worked

[river pond]

is it intended that i can't be logged in normal and stage version of the site at the same time?

[worn granite]

yeah i have the same

[daring gale]

i think they might be sharing the same cookie namespace atm. i'll change that

[worn granite]

and also, i added an emote but i cannot use it in my chat

[daring gale]

that's normal, this is stage - the extension & chatterino connects to live

so you can't see stage emotes through the current clients

[worn granite]

but then i cannot see the difference between old and new compression

[daring gale]

just open the cdn urls to compare, or use this site https://applic.dev/inspect/twitch-elements/

[worn granite]

yeah its a huge difference

much, much better

[river pond]

now i can't login

nvm it fixed right after i sent this message

[daring gale]

@turbid ivy @proven hatch try uploading that crashing gif again

[turbid ivy]

🔧

[daring gale]

[turbid ivy]

oh ok then I won't upload

[daring gale]

it's aggregated yeah, the biggest frame is taken

you can test this to be sure if u want tho

[cobalt viper]

what's the size limit?

i'm getting {"isTrusted":true} on a 1,5MB 512x512

oh actually 4,5 MB

[daring gale]

can u send me the file in question?

no crashes or errors server side

[daring gale]

seems like it times out

ill investigate

actually it ends up creating after a while @cobalt viper, it's just the request timed out. shouldn't be taking this long though

I might have to consider dropping the maximum file size a little bit

[cobalt viper]

yep it just spawned

[daring gale]

Thanks for the help so far testing this out, I've prepared a pull request and will likely merge this into live sometime tomorrow

[worn granite]

@daring gale out of pure curiosity, why has this not been applied before? Is it a better compression system? Or is there more storage available now

[daring gale]

it was attempted a few times before

but there were always issues with random panics and crashes

[worn granite]

here's a comparison between bttv and 7tv's Copege:

left 7tv, right bttv

comparison between 7tv new and 7tv old

https://i.nuuls.com/Ej285.png

[worn granite]

No FFZ works for me with the new extension

I'm on Chrome

[daring gale]

and doesn't work with FFZ?

[worn granite]

When I turn on FFZ, it does work

I have the emote menu on, and the 7tv emotes show there, there is no 7TV emote menu https://i.nuuls.com/0DR9r.png

[daring gale]

the 7TV emote menu is purposely removed when FFZ is enabled, as it'd cause confusion (it would be empty)

that moves entirely to ffz's menu

[worn granite]

Okay

Is there gonna be a 7TV settings menu?

[daring gale]

yea that's still planned for 1.6.0

this is still a 1.5.x patch so no new features there (besides the ffz stuff)

[worn granite]

is it intented that the FFZ plugin is needed?

[daring gale]

yes, the idea is that any user who has FFZ enabled won't see the native 7TV extension, this means i no longer have to support ffz compatibility on my end

[inner sorrel]

yo @daring gale i decided to do a test where i posted a gif, and then saved it straight up from the website after it was compressed then i would reupload

its glitchy as fuck https://stage.7tv.app/emotes

it gets thinner and thinner every time

i did this to test out compression

[daring gale]

interesting find

most likely something to do with direct webp uploads

[tender crystal]

so a Stage user is like a beta tester?

[inner sorrel]

kinda

it was more to test out new compression and webp uploads and shit

[daring gale]

If i make a big change that requires more testing i'd ask people here

next time will probably be testing subscriptions

[tender crystal]

hmm okay got it

[inner sorrel]

will i get a free subscription?

[tender crystal]

[daring gale]

on the stage environment yeah

[river rock]

$1 monthly for each additional emote slot

[tender crystal]

empirrre

[inner sorrel]

🇹🇫

i should get a free month peepoTalk

[river rock]

paying $7577 monthly for my emote slot count

[unkempt hill]

I charge 10 emote slots per hour of testing

[inner sorrel]

i charge 50

[solar kindle]

I will undercut em all and do it for free

[inner sorrel]

[peak tiger]

mods dont even get sub perks

[inner sorrel]

unlucky

[unkempt hill]

what about contributors

[daring gale]

$0/hr? -€3.99 / month

[tender crystal]

[gentle storm]

[inner sorrel]

wait you're asking if contributors will get contributor perks?

[unkempt hill]

maybe

[inner sorrel]

Thinkge

i dont think so

[daring gale]

ur paid in exposure

[inner sorrel]

what exposure?

pepela

[inner sorrel]

🇹🇫

oh

[peak tiger]

people can see his name everytime they use ffz add-on

[inner sorrel]

laggy internet omegalul mask sade

[tender crystal]

so how do i become Stage tester?

[inner sorrel]

ping pajlada

[tender crystal]

@pajlada

[inner sorrel]

monka ass

[unkempt hill]

[daring gale]

just ask for the role if you're interested

[inner sorrel]

forehead

[tender crystal]

is it that simple?

[gentle storm]

gg

[tender crystal]

WTF

[inner sorrel]

everyone ping @daring gale for free role

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale

[tender crystal]

[river rock]

can i have

[unkempt hill]

[inner sorrel]

forgot to ping

[daring gale]

just give to yourslf

[river rock]

😎

[unkempt hill]

I've probably used my yearly quota of anatole pings already

[river rock]

hmmmmmmm

[inner sorrel]

give it to me

[gentle storm]

wait i want it

[unkempt hill]

no me

[inner sorrel]

no me

[gentle storm]

[unkempt hill]

me me me !

[inner sorrel]

wide peepo tri hard

me

[unkempt hill]

me next!

[inner sorrel]

me !

[river rock]

stage testers

[daring gale]

moderator moment

[river rock]

7tvmod

[inner sorrel]

:MODS::Tssk:

[river rock]

https://7tv.app/emotes/60e52f2c058232962de6490f

[inner sorrel]

:nyooo:

[unkempt hill]

wait wheres the title on that embed

anatole

[daring gale]

it times out sometimes

[tender crystal]

[river rock]

@daring gale I FOUND A BUG !!!!!

[tender crystal]

WHAT BUG

[daring gale]

i need to add something that skips rendering entirely for crawlers

[river rock]

crawlers

[unkempt hill]

[river rock]

just check for user agent

[daring gale]

yuh

[pastel smelt]

[inner sorrel]

https://7tv.app/emotes/60afeed1f405a517c05e638b

no name

[daring gale]

https://7tv.app/emotes/60bcb44f7229037ee386d1ab

it just times out, SSR is too slow

[inner sorrel]

okayge should be global

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale is on 7TV?

I cant find it

I want it

[peak tiger]

just add it

[daring gale]

no idea

[unkempt hill]

adding emotes to the 7tv discord that aren't even on 7tv

what is this

[inner sorrel]

peepoHappyU

[peak tiger]

@topaz bobcat adds the emotes

[tender crystal]

[unkempt hill]

@topaz bobcat

also #stage-discussion is the new general

you might as well rename it now

[peak tiger]

@unkempt hill why not just upload it yourself

[inner sorrel]

@topaz bobcat add ''nyooo'' 😡

[unkempt hill]

because thats stealing

[peak tiger]

Yoink

[inner sorrel]

if no one uploaded then its not stealing

[peak tiger]

if you dont someone will

[inner sorrel]

wide peepo try hard

[inner sorrel]

''someone''

pepeLaugh hackerCD

[river rock]

7tvmod

[inner sorrel]

i need more slots :nyooo:

[gentle storm]

gg

[river rock]

yo anatole

[inner sorrel]

yo anal toe

:Madeg:

[river rock]

multiple command aliases

[steel patio]

[daring gale]

command alias?

[river rock]

fuck

uhhh

other thing

emote

[pastel smelt]

why don't you just render meta tags for crawlers?

[river rock]

ive been working on this discord bot for too long

[daring gale]

i wanna add that as a subscriber feature yeah

[daring gale]

thats the idea, ill change it i just need to figure out how t odetect crawlers from user agents

[river rock]

PogMan

[daring gale]

idk if ineed to find an entire list

[river rock]

almost to 300

[inner sorrel]

i dont know what to do
i want the 2 pagmans on my chat

what do i do

[pastel smelt]

discord's user agent is Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Discordbot/2.0; +https://discordapp.com) iirc

[gentle storm]

ignore

wait no not too slow i mixed up names

[steel patio]

literally the fps was bad

[gentle storm]

[river rock]

ok im a certified gamer now

[daring gale]

moderator moment

[river rock]

7tvmod

[inner sorrel]

7777

lmao moment

[river rock]

which one do you think is the better emote extension

just based off this picture alone

[daring gale]

7tv

[inner sorrel]

add all 7tv emotes to your chat and test how laggy would it be

[unkempt hill]

the middle one

[pastel smelt]

have you seen this? it has some good info
https://www.keycdn.com/blog/web-crawlers

[river rock]

anatole run a script to add every emote

wait i forgot to reload my emote window

[inner sorrel]

just do /add object.[{(;emote;)}] all 4Head

thats obviously how it works

[river rock]

there is a clear best

[inner sorrel]

wide = good

[steel patio]

[unkempt hill]

the middle one, again

[peak tiger]

more = better

[unkempt hill]

simple is better

[river rock]

widemonkaGIGAftRobertDowneyJr

good emote

should be global

[unkempt hill]

the top one has too many wide emotes

[river rock]

[pastel smelt]

https://github.com/monperrus/crawler-user-agents/blob/master/crawler-user-agents.json

[unkempt hill]

the bottom one has also some wide emotes

the middle one only has squares

[river rock]

7tv > ffz > bttv

[unkempt hill]

BTTV > BTTV > FFZ

[peak tiger]

the middle one has wide emotes as global @unkempt hill

[unkempt hill]

[inner sorrel]

no 7tv omega ly l

[river rock]

7tv > 7tv > 7tv

[inner sorrel]

7tv + 7tv : 7tv² . 7tv = 7tv + ( - [ - { : 7tv³ } ] )

[daring gale]

https://stage.7tv.app/emotes/60d3a3387b9ce679dd7815cd

embeds convert to gif now (this won't go live immediately but later today probably)

[livid fern]

Holy shit

[daring gale]

https://stage.7tv.app/emotes/60ed17b366d8aa8dcac832d5?v=1

[river rock]

that's weird

in the GIF version the other frames stack on top of each other

see his hair kinda pulls everywhere

[daring gale]

oh yea forgot to coalesce

donk

[river rock]

coalesce

[inner sorrel]

@daring gale forgot to tell you but i still get unlogged from my account everytime i try to login on stage

[topaz bobcat]

everything is stealing

just let me know what emotes u want added and I'll add them

[river rock]

yeah i feel bad uploading some emotes but

i mean i don't have a problem transferring ownership

[livid fern]

Me too

[topaz bobcat]

@daring gale why do we have 2 stares?

[livid fern]

I love that one guy asked for ownership

From an emote he didn't make

[topaz bobcat]

[livid fern]

Because I made the emote

[peak tiger]

I sent you the updated version in dms you never responded

[topaz bobcat]

its already added?

[peak tiger]

yea it wasnt when i sent it to you

[topaz bobcat]

yeah my bad for not responding

[peak tiger]

its fine its how its get treated irl so im use to it

[topaz bobcat]

you get used to it

I get treated like that my entire life

[daring gale]

i think moving forward we're gonna require an actual projectfile / layerfile for transfer requests

[peak tiger]

is it used to it or use to it? @topaz bobcat

[daring gale]

unless it's really obvious they own the emote

[topaz bobcat]

google it

do we keep both stares then @daring gale

[peak tiger]

doesnt it depend on the context how do i google this context?

[topaz bobcat]

just google your question

[peak tiger]

I would get rid of the old one

[peak tiger]

No but both are correct it just depends on the context your using it in

[topaz bobcat]

#stage-discussion btw.

[topaz bobcat]

another thing is most webp emotes on 7TV are pretty big when u convert them and then it will look like shit

[daring gale]

discord not supporting webp

[topaz bobcat]

im pretty sure theres already feedback for that but you know what they do with those

[peak tiger]

You used to work for them dont you have some ties still?

[daring gale]

creating TOS-breaking custom clients = working for discord

[peak tiger]

I swear he said he tested for them

[topaz bobcat]

no?

[river rock]

discord testers is different

[peak tiger]

why do you have the developer discord then

[gentle storm]

monka

[river rock]

i used to have discord bug hunter badge on old acct

[topaz bobcat]

you are free to download it too

but theres no point

[river rock]

just get canary

[topaz bobcat]

yes

[peak tiger]

Ya but you said you got it before they allowed anyone to get it

[peak tiger]

already have it

[topaz bobcat]

[river rock]

canary = gamer

[topaz bobcat]

I just said I got it

[peak tiger]

Hmm

[daring gale]

cyclone making up something then arguing about it endlessly

[gentle storm]

[peak tiger]

I didnt try to make it up i just misinterpreted when we talked about it in chatsen discord

[daring gale]

<@&857301549440696372> can anyone test tab completion on this build

[cobalt viper]

seems to work perfectly

the only thing is I miss the auto space after the emote, but it might be just a personal preference

[fossil dagger]

works great, and yeah the auto space ^

one thing i noticed is that it prefers BTTV over 7tv when tabbing several times

ex: typing "pp" and then tabbing will cycle between ppHop, ppHopper, and ppOverheat from my BTTV, but it won't bring up ppParty or ppPoof from my 7tv

[daring gale]

yeah unfortunately bttv captures the event space and doesnt let it bubble

i would need to virtualize the input in order to fix this

[fossil dagger]

im assuming 7tv would need to be integrated into bttv settings for that to work properly? or something for 7tv to override bttv's?

[daring gale]

The only way is to uninstall BTTV, since we can't integrate with them (BTTV is in all but name, a dead project)

FFZ has all bttv's settings anyway

[fossil dagger]

interesting, after uninstalling bttv and making sure ffz had tab completions turned on, now it only tabs 7tv emotes

[daring gale]

oh right, makes sense, ill run a few fixes

[daring gale]

@fossil dagger @cobalt viper still around? new build, should fix all the issues you mentioned;
https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/releases/tag/1.5.5-rc2

[fossil dagger]

on it

[daring gale]

only thing i didn't fix is the space after tab, i think that'd require additional setup

if if it's fine i'll go ahead and release this

[fossil dagger]

works perfectly

tabbing goes thru all emotes now

also if you need more stage testers i'll happily take the role, im excited for 7tv

[daring gale]

sure

[fossil dagger]

[daring gale]

i gotta set up some autorole thing for this, it's mostly meant to be a pingable role

@main condor can u do that

idk how the bots in this server work

[main condor]

Yeah

[daring gale]

ty

[main condor]

Just for stage testers?

[daring gale]

yayayayaya

[main condor]

Sure thing

[daring gale]

you can make a new channel for it prob, like #stage-info

i'll write an explanation

[main condor]

#864456490806149130

[daring gale]

i posted a message ill edit it later you can put the role stuff under

[cobalt viper]

works great but I still can't understand how the order works

like if I write 'omega' I get OMEGALULiguess (bttv) first, then OMEGALUL (ffz)

which is kind of annoying

but if I write 'peepo' I get 7TV emotes first

it feels pretty random

[daring gale]

It is likely pretty random, there's no sorting logic right now

I would've implemented the weighing system + override flags today but id like this version to go out asap, since it fixes a major compatibility issue as of the FFZ release

[cobalt viper]

I see I see

I think it's good to go then

[novel portal]

id say shortest one first or sth

and usernames/emotes separated from each other ofc

[stuck swallow]

[daring gale]

https://stage.7tv.app/emotes?page=0&sortBy=age&globalState=include&channel=anatoleam

this link should show emotes i have enabled

[toxic tangle]

it works

if i replace your name with mine it doesnt show emotes that i have enabled

but im a bit and dont know if thats how it works

[daring gale]

You didnt enable any emote

Not on stage at least

[toxic tangle]

oh stage has different set

shouldnt it not show anything then though?

[river pond]

is it intended right now that page name always says 0/0

[toxic tangle]

ive enable one but i still get the same results for if i had 0

[daring gale]

lowercase

[toxic tangle]

seems to be working well

invalid channel name just shows every emote then i guess because that was with capital

[merry elk]

if i search smth and then go back using the browser it stays in the search menu till i hit the start screen

look at the link and what is shown

[daring gale]

that's intended?

[merry elk]

oh

[daring gale]

but if you modify the url you have to hit enter so it refreshes

[merry elk]

no i didnt modify it myself

[daring gale]

so you clicked back in the browser and the url lost its query params but still successfully used last used params?

[merry elk]

yes

[toxic tangle]

those two emotes are the only two called alienrave in the stage version ?

oh i see

[daring gale]

happens everytime or not

[toxic tangle]

hitting back in the browser doesnt refresh what emotes are shown

[daring gale]

cant reproduce

[toxic tangle]

would you be able to watch stream on lidl internet?

[daring gale]

i was talking to @merry elk

[merry elk]

happens everytime

[daring gale]

browser?

[merry elk]

chrome

[daring gale]

steps to reproduce pls

[merry elk]

search an emote and then try to go back via browser

[daring gale]

oh ok i see

[merry elk]

[toxic tangle]

its not related to channel query it seems

happens without it

[daring gale]

yea hthats the same issue you have

[toxic tangle]

doesnt happen on the live web app presumably because the url doesnt change when searching emotes so it just goes back to whatever page you were on before anyway

if you go back on stage then refresh it does work

after refreshing you also lose the ability to go to the page forward

[daring gale]

there are only 2 pages on stage if you're on a 1080p screen are you sure you're not just on page 2

[toxic tangle]

i search alien rave

search pepe

hit back to go to alienrave and refresh because doesnt load

i then cant hit the forward arrow to go back to pepe

these arrows

[daring gale]

yes this is the same one issue

[daring gale]

<@&857301549440696372> new fixes went live, lemme know if this is better

[toxic tangle]

emote refresh works on page switching now 👍

[daring gale]

ah i didnt fix it showing "0/0"

eh w/e just a visual glitch

[merry elk]

works fine now

[mint shell]

seemsgood

[river pond]

[daring gale]

does this page show ZULUL as the very last emote? https://7tv.app/emotes?page=304&sortBy=age&sortOrder=1

[daring gale]

oh right dimensions

hmm i guess i should consider adding a size option to keep consistency across devices for shared links

people wont get the same results unless they have the exact space screen dimensions

[toxic tangle]

i see Groomer as the last emote

[inner sorrel]

groomer

[unkempt hill]

A potential alternative could be to link to an emote number (being the first emote on the page) instead of a page number

[steel patio]

The search persistence thing is nice

[daring gale]

You mean paginate with after=id?

If it's empty then it's first page, then the client sends the id of the last emote in the list to get the next set

[dire brook]

Hmm... I can't add emotes on the Stage page, "+ Add Emote" button is grey and it shows "You must be signed in to do that" even if I am.
Also my profile doesn't show "Stage Tester" status - dunno if it is synchronized with the eponymous Discord role.

[daring gale]

stage isn't currently being used but once something needs testing i'll hand out perms

[dire brook]

k, thx

[daring gale]

May be some initial testing on subscriptions starting tomorrow, much of the backend flow is complete - needs front-end and connecting the two APIs together

it's going to be with fake money so dont have to pull out your credit cards

[unkempt hill]

I'm ready to break things

[inner sorrel]

''fake money'' you mean crypto coins?

:PEPW:

[unkempt hill]

is it fake if people want it

[weak heron]

7Coin

[solar kindle]

do you guys accept MILFToken's?

[inner sorrel]

:PEPW:that scamcoin aladin floss promoted?

[solar kindle]

[daring gale]

gonna sleep a little and then finish up connecting the dots, soon™

[solar kindle]

get some good rest

[devout veldt]

kek

[daring gale]

set up the stage environment for the payments api (https://api-stage.7tv.app/egvault), will finish up a few things and do a little bit of testing later today

[inner sorrel]

egvault

Okayeg

is it supposed to be like this

[worn granite]

i get the same message

[daring gale]

it's just that new API saying it's online

the actual test is probably this evening, only thing left to do is to add some frontend

[topaz bobcat]

good evening anatole

u are in france right?

[daring gale]

shut yo bish ass up im literally preparing the stage env rn

[topaz bobcat]

lets see if you can make it in time

[dire brook]

[topaz bobcat]

jesus this VPN is so slow

it restarts every 4 hours and then

ok I'm in russia now

[daring gale]

u know you can just type "time in france" you don't have to vpn right

[unkempt hill]

time in anatole

its not working

[topaz bobcat]

I know

[dire brook]

welcome, I could show U Moscow

[novel portal]

theres only one thing in anatole and its not time

[dire brook]

[inner sorrel]

everytime i enter BillyAtTheBeach

[dire brook]

just make my course work, mom

[high pond]

[unkempt hill]

[dire brook]

key word was "probably", do not chaff Tole

[unkempt hill]

he said its now

[daring gale]

Late night test incoming

[unkempt hill]

I woke up this morning so I wouldn't miss stage testing

thats a Kapp but I did get up after I read it might be happening today

[high pond]

anatole

[daring gale]

routing

[dire brook]

Europe night?

[dire brook]

[daring gale]

calling it off for now, seeing a few issues and it's not ready

[topaz bobcat]

3:17 PM here

[unkempt hill]

💞 You wouldn't do it for me? @daring gale

[dire brook]

k, hope I won’t miss it. Gonna go to the work, maybe will return till it won’t be finished yet.

[worn granite]

what server is that in

[inner sorrel]

idk

i saved it tho

added to my private server with 30 boosts

ghost credit cards for free nitro

:hackerCD:

[dire brook]

If U are not Russian, I don’t know how to answer this question. Just one server from my list.

[inner sorrel]

i am russian

cyka blyat

see

[dire brook]

u haven't stopped yet

rude

[dire brook]

[inner sorrel]

nothing happens when i click it @daring gale

[long quiver]

just about to say the same

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale

[daring gale]

by nothing happens explain

[unkempt hill]

when clicking subscribe

[dire brook]

Like nothing

[daring gale]

does literally nothing happen or it gets into a short loading state

[inner sorrel]

when you click it loads for a bit then nothing happens

[daring gale]

please post the error you're seeing, go to f12 -> network tab

[unkempt hill]

I also cannot sign in

[steel patio]

The button doesn't open paypal

[unkempt hill]

at all

[daring gale]

you have to be signed in

[river rock]

should i get on my computer to try

[steel patio]

400 bad request

[mint hound]

{"Status":400,"Message":"Bad Request (You are already a subscriber!)"} and i'm not a subscriber

[daring gale]

okay

got it

sec

ty @mint hound actually useful

[cobalt viper]

i've got a huge bug to report

there are 4 "step 2"s in the message in #stage-notes

[river rock]

[mint hound]

[daring gale]

fix deployed

[long quiver]

paypal shows up now

[daring gale]

post the id of the account you log in with pls

[long quiver]

20 :)

[cobalt viper]

12

[dire brook]

8

[river rock]

can i try on mobile

[steel patio]

I'm gonna go with 17

[mint hound]

2

[daring gale]

do a hard refresh if youre having web app problems ctrl+f5

[late rapids]

16

[daring gale]

anyone has had a subscription activated yet?

[long quiver]

i believe mine has

[daring gale]

nice

[mint hound]

worked

[long quiver]

the site itself still gives the option to subscribe

[daring gale]

if you click again nothing happens right?

[mint hound]

yup

[long quiver]

yeah just spins for a second then stops like before

[cobalt viper]

worked, got the yearly one

[dire brook]

LUL

[steel patio]

okay I had to check out twice, but it worked the 2nd time

now I'm gold

[gentle storm]

im trying w/ 4

[steel patio]

does my account have 2 subscriptions active now?

[daring gale]

yes

thats something ill have to deal with, you would get billed twice

[steel patio]

[dire brook]

should U?

[elder lichen]

im trying with number 9

[daring gale]

actually it probably won't be an issue once i make the subscription activate on callback

[dire brook]

same

[daring gale]

right now it uses paypal's webhooks which have a delay

@unkempt hill ever managed t osign in?

[gentle storm]

worked smoothly for me

[merry elk]

im trying stagetest13

[gentle storm]

i used 4 btw i think that message above got missed

[merry elk]

worked, my names gold now with stagetest13

[unkempt hill]

no

I actually cant sign in on the non stage either

[daring gale]

prob something with an extension you have or smth

[merry elk]

https://lyx0.s-ul.eu/llVl5fRb.png stagetest13 acc

[elder lichen]

stagetest9

[empty zodiac]

Worked with 19 👍

[dire brook]

Numbers have been done:
1 2 4 7 8 9 12 13 16 17 19 20

[toxic tangle]

doing 7

[late rapids]

im on 16

[dire brook]

alrd mentioned

[late rapids]

but wasnt on the list ... am now 🙂

[dire brook]

it was

only 7 and 1 were missed

[robust widget]

im doin 5

[dire brook]

actually only 1 - 7 is just done

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale

[daring gale]

can some of you go to "manage automatic payments" here https://www.sandbox.paypal.com/myaccount/settings/payments and cancel the subscription

[daring gale]

FIREF X

but ill change it to a redirect

[dire brook]

Firefox

[daring gale]

instead of popup

[daring gale]

refresh here

sandbox bug

[steel patio]

I'm gonna cancel the 2nd active one

[daring gale]

ye, if everything is correct you should still have your role @steel patio

since you have 2 entitlements

[unkempt hill]

uh @daring gale

the popup turned into a second 7tv app

and now the actual one is just spinning

[steel patio]

It's still gold, seems good. You did say it takes a few mins

[daring gale]

its normal

[gentle storm]

cancelled smoothly 👍

[unkempt hill]

after completing purchase

[daring gale]

also before it goes live cancellation will create an expire until the actual end of the subscription instead of immediately cancel

[unkempt hill]

ok

[broken trellis]

works on 3

[daring gale]

@unkempt hill i mentioned in #864456490806149130 the page is uncomplete, save that feedback for later pls

[unkempt hill]

now I'd like to transfer my entitlement over to the production app @daring gale

[dire brook]

but with the 2nd one (1st actually in order) it's working

[unkempt hill]

[dire brook]

should I try to cancel 1 more?

after 1st canceled

[broken trellis]

sorry for my name being in Chinese

[toxic tangle]

was able to subscribe and cancel just fine

[merry elk]

i always get https://lyx0.s-ul.eu/UclSDwnD.png on 13 after going to 'manage automatic payments'

[daring gale]

try refreshing the page

[dire brook]

can't cancel 2nd sub, even after the 1st one was successful canceled

[gentle storm]

you might need to go to the thing to check active ones i got that error cause it was trying to show me active subscribtions

[merry elk]

oh after like 10 times refreshing it worked

https://lyx0.s-ul.eu/evFf3WqR.png 13

[daring gale]

yeah the sandbox paypal is jank

just have to keep trying

for those who cancelled, does resubsribing work?

[merry elk]

afterr unsubbung my names white again

unsubbing*

[broken trellis]

can i just say if you open the pop up to pay pall then close it, the sub button keeps on loading @daring gale

[daring gale]

i know

[toxic tangle]

it doesnt seem like it

[broken trellis]

oh

[toxic tangle]

name stays white on profile and no role

[daring gale]

wait a minute or two for it to activate

[late rapids]

can resub

[toxic tangle]

its active

[broken trellis]

[unkempt hill]

but, shouldn't canceling not end your subscription perks?

until the end of the payment period

because you already payed

your not being refunded

[daring gale]

fuck

[dire brook]

nice, both canceled successfully

[mint hound]

^

[daring gale]

^ @unkempt hill

[mint shell]

do you have plans of having other payment methods like btc in the future?

[daring gale]

ye probably

[merry elk]

resubbing worked, im back to gold

[daring gale]

altho not BTC for now it'll just amplify the "bit coin miner" meme

[mint shell]

alright thanks

[unkempt hill]

[mint shell]

oh yeah true

[unkempt hill]

ETH

Turning emotes into NFTs

[cobalt viper]

managed to subscribe -> unsubscribe -> subscribe again

[late rapids]

[cobalt viper]

can i move this to my real paypal now?

[steel patio]

[toxic tangle]

🇹🇫

[broken trellis]

[cobalt viper]

🇹🇫

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale I feel like the option to subscribe yearly should be more apparent

its very hidden

[daring gale]

yea i will add a proper dialog

[unkempt hill]

and not obveous where you have to click

[dire brook]

yes, connect your real paypal to sandbox and share ur credit data with Tole

[steel patio]

yeah I clicked it by accident

[daring gale]

with a review of all settings + terms, etc

[dire brook]

he will redirect funds

[unkempt hill]

so

when do we get to transfer these entitlements to production

[daring gale]

[broken trellis]

[merry elk]

using stagetest10

[daring gale]

14 entitlements active

[polar magnet]

I picked 14

[merry elk]

gonna test yearly too

[polar magnet]

Name turned gold

[toxic tangle]

step 1) empty stage paypal accounts through multiple purchases of yearly subscription

[unkempt hill]

[broken trellis]

[unkempt hill]

I was going to do that but its too slow anatole

make it faster

[mint shell]

having option to change displayed currency would be good as well

[steel patio]

yeah localized currency would be nice

[merry elk]

i now tried yearly and it says +2 months free but on the payment page on paypal it says it will renew in exactly a year https://lyx0.s-ul.eu/cLKAPbXZ.png

[daring gale]

the "two months free" refers to the price skipping 2 months @merry elk

[merry elk]

oh

im dumb nvm

[cobalt viper]

i think it means you only pay for 10

marketing

[mint shell]

i feel like its not very clear

[merry elk]

yeah true makes sense sorry

[daring gale]

every other service that does yearly subs does this

[steel patio]

I understood that, but I'm good with mental math so it kinda made sense to me

[river rock]

is there still stuff to test

[dire brook]

it means U pay for 12 month instantly and Tole have 2 free month for chilling on an island

[merry elk]

yeah idk i just had a brainfart moment

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale

[daring gale]

@river rock i mostly have the data i needed but feel free to try it, ill leave it up for the evening

[unkempt hill]

I activated 6 subscriptions at once

the notifications just came in

6 role updates

[daring gale]

yeah i think that's the only thing that needs fixing alongside adding an expire time on cancellations

[polar magnet]

1,2,7,8,9,10,14,12,13,16,17,19,20

[dire brook]

@daring gale
accept 🅰️ 🅱️ 🅾️ 🅱️ 🅰️ , when u will have a sec

[unkempt hill]

I stole 15

[mint shell]

they usually have it in this type of form https://i.imgur.com/AJqBpbA.png

[unkempt hill]

wtf kinda format is that

.iso

[merry elk]

Feedback:

• You can still click subscribe even when not logged in, I'm a smooth brain and couldn't figure out why. Maybe change the button to "You must be logged in" etc
• The PayPal window opens up in a tabless window, you make your payment, and it redirects to 7TV leaving two 7TV pages open. I usually see the redirect close out automatically.
• The subscribe button remains clickable on the page after activating. Maybe change it to "Subscribed" or turn red and say "Cancel Subscription"
• Payment was ez and seamless, it took and turned gold in about 10-15 seconds.

Attached is the screenshot with the popup

[unkempt hill]

thats the wrong kind of image

[dire brook]

Numbers have been done:
1 2 3 4 7 8 9 12 13 15 16 17 19 20

[unkempt hill]

15 too

[broken trellis]

3

[dire brook]

edited

[mint shell]

this kinda is more of what i was getting at (stolen from norvpn)

[dire brook]

Thanks

🅰️ 🅱️ 🅾️ 🅱️ 🅰️

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale also the role name is missing in the notification

[daring gale]

it's there actually, but the webapp doesn't support role mentions yet

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale can you see how many entitlements are currently active for me?

[novel portal]

dink donk

[unkempt hill]

I canceled 1/6 of the subscriptions

[daring gale]

sure 1sec

[unkempt hill]

so there should be 5

[daring gale]

ye there are 5 entitlements

[unkempt hill]

[polar magnet]

So how do I buy global emotes with this fake money and spam them in real twitch streams?

[broken trellis]

[unkempt hill]

is there 3 now?

[daring gale]

ye

[unkempt hill]

well soon

idk if it updated

oh

I meant to do 7 subscriptions

but I cant count

[cobalt viper]

no need to fix this tbh

sounds like double revenue to me

[dire brook]

joked alrd

[cobalt viper]

oh

[merry elk]

how did you get mutliple subscriptions active i don't get a popup anymore after i did the 1 year subscription (not cancelled)

[daring gale]

i can "fix" it by just activating the subscription instantly (checking the callback)

[dire brook]

but, tbh, Tole should think about lvls of subs

[daring gale]

if the user opens multiple tabs and subs several times on purpose, well free real estate i guess

[late rapids]

Anatole if you could just fix the New World servers for Amazon that be great. I got Ore to mine.

[daring gale]

yea sure ill do that in a minute

[broken trellis]

[daring gale]

[daring gale]

i have that integrated into the design sorta, the plan you're subbing to atm is called "t1.monthly" or "t1.yearly"

i'm making this pretty similar to how a twitch sub functions in general

[dire brook]

nah, I mean like 1-grade, 2-grade etc. subs

like twitch 5 10 25 USD

not just month-plans

[daring gale]

thats what i meant, it's called "t1" for tier and monthly/yearly for billing cycle

[dire brook]

oh, "making", sry

got ya

When are U planning an official release of subs?

[unkempt hill]

Now this is stage testing

[daring gale]

tentatively for the next few days

[dire brook]

Firefox KEKL

u can open just in tabs

[mint shell]

firefox users

[dire brook]

k, rdy

[merry elk]

speedrun to Anatole refresh my paypal account balanace its empty

[dire brook]

oh, see this

[novel portal]

why do you have so many windows instead of tabs open and why discord on browser and why firefox

[dire brook]

- normal subs
- Pepegafy

[merry elk]

wdym why firefox, because its the best

[mint shell]

so true noury

[unkempt hill]

firefox deniers 😬

[novel portal]

https://tenor.com/view/idont-think-så-idont-think-so-no-idont-think-så-gif-18703355

[daring gale]

firefox deniers

[polar magnet]

Browser Discord deniers 😬

[unkempt hill]

😬 using an electron app thats literally a embedded chromium browser

and calling it a desktop discord app

😬 when its identical

[mint shell]

truee

[elder lichen]

😬

[unkempt hill]

and infact more bloat

[polar magnet]

B A S E D

Also imagine hating on someone for using the only browser that doesn't steal your data

[daring gale]

[dire brook]

"identical"

[daring gale]

doesn't literally owned by google

[polar magnet]

well I use chrome anyway, so google already has my data

[daring gale]

no googlebux = firefox gone

[polar magnet]

kekvv

Well that's not quite the same as "owned" by google

but I'm aware of that

[unkempt hill]

imagine using the browser that refuses to properly submit web standards

and then just implements them

[daring gale]

also using a browser that wants to censor stuff for you

[unkempt hill]

and forces the industry to come along

the second IE

[cobalt viper]

this is turning wild

[novel portal]

firefox is built on chromium and has gotten so much worse over the years

[unkempt hill]

firefox is the only non chromium browser

[mint shell]

its not chromium based?

[unkempt hill]

its built on gecko

[novel portal]

oh wait then it was some other one

my bad then

[mint shell]

yeah u got me confused for a sec

[novel portal]

i remember there was some browser that was like supa proud that it wasnt chrome

but it was built on chromium

[mint shell]

thats like every browser

[late rapids]

Server is back up. I can mine again. you work fast Anatole ty

[daring gale]

yw

[dire brook]

Dank

[unkempt hill]

I'm subscribing I'm subscribing

[novel portal]

wtf

[daring gale]

i just saw like 10 subs activate

[dire brook]

[daring gale]

[novel portal]

this looks so cursed

[unkempt hill]

uhm actually

it was 16

I'm draining this account

[cobalt viper]

looks like that gta5 mission

[unkempt hill]

something wrong happened

[daring gale]

bruh did you really just empty a thousand

[unkempt hill]

I dont think it was supposed to be divisible by 16

one of those shouldn't have gone through

[dire brook]

u can up ur balance with ur own funds

[daring gale]

you have 17 entitlements active

[unkempt hill]

yeah I think I added one

because 16 was the max

[novel portal]

i mean

he does have pepega role

[daring gale]

[novel portal]

[dire brook]

not Pepega

Pepegafy

[merry elk]

also small feedback, the button where you click on to change from monthly to yearly 3/5 times i try to click it it goes to subscribe instead of the dropdown menu

[daring gale]

@unkempt hill does it keep going through if you try signing in on an alt and sub again?

with the same paypal acc

[unkempt hill]

[daring gale]

might be that sandbox doesnt error on lack of funds

[dire brook]

yeah, it can be on pypl side

[cobalt viper]

i think there's some sort of bank account linked to the sandbox account, maybe it took money from there

[dire brook]

after all the tests will be done, return it please - I need to eat

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale did melonify_dev get an entitlement?

[merry elk]

https://lyx0.s-ul.eu/6wNMSJkI.png i would make it so that if you click on the red box it goes to dropdown menu, and if you click the green box go to subscribe, right now it only sends me to the dropdown menu when i click exactly on the arrow

but the button has a | in the middle

[daring gale]

not yet

now it did

[unkempt hill]

so I used all that fake money for nothing?

[merry elk]

i hope the shitty drawing explains it

[dire brook]

btw I can't sub again now

fixed 2ble sub or mistake?

[mint shell]

money depleted

[dire brook]

nope

[daring gale]

btw melon how is your alt's display name "ㆍ1ㆍ"

[dire brook]

pypl pop-out isn't opening

[daring gale]

@unkempt hill

[unkempt hill]

ssshhh

[merry elk]

also if i click on subscribe, and the popup comes up and i close it it stays on the greyed out subscribe button with the green circle

[broken trellis]

ye

[daring gale]

you have an active sub @dire brook, you can only sub multiple times if you do it before it gets activated

[broken trellis]

i said that while ago

[dire brook]

nice, ty

[merry elk]

oh must have overread it sorry

[unkempt hill]

@daring gale how many entitlements does melonify have, and did melonify_dev loose its entitlement?

I canceled one of the melonify ones

[daring gale]

dev is still entitled

[unkempt hill]

also

[daring gale]

your main has 16

[unkempt hill]

I'll dm you the secret

[daring gale]

[dire brook]

isn't it like "for science"?!

[river pond]

trying stage 5

[daring gale]

Ty for testing lads, i'll fix a few things and most likely have another go later this evening

[merry elk]

👉 ❤️

[river pond]

i guess i came here just in time

[merry elk]

time to test the donation function on paypal sandbox 🤏 no just kidding

[polar magnet]

Please donate infinite money to my personal paypal

[worn granite]

ok one second

[polar magnet]

Hey you don't even know my personal paypal

[dire brook]

[worn granite]

i dont get it

am i supposed to log in to paypal? (im logged out by default)

[broken trellis]

[unkempt hill]

check stage notes

for account credentials

[worn granite]

i have read it multiple times

i dont get it

[broken trellis]

[worn granite]

wait am i supposed to use the sandbox accounbt

[broken trellis]

yes

[polar magnet]

Pepega moment LuL

[worn granite]

oh yeah

[broken trellis]

maybe update accounts in use @daring gale

[cobalt viper]

[worn granite]

oh no

i have to use a mail that isn't used

oops

[daring gale]

doesn't matter now

it's fine

[worn granite]

ok ok